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Dockets #0101 - 0103, 0504 - 0508 - Confirmations of the Appointments or Re-appointments to the Board of Directors of the Boston Industrial Development Finance Authority or to the Boston Zoning Commission
A
We
are
here
for
a
public
hearing
on
dockets
number:
zero
one:
zero
one
through
zero,
one:
zero,
three
and
zero
five
zero
four
through
zero,
five
zero
eight.
These
will
be.
These
are
nominations
for
the
bid
board
of
directors
of
the
boston,
industrial
development,
finance
authority,
as
well
as
for
the
zoning
commission.
A
Okay,
so
before
we
do
that,
I
want
to
remind
everyone
that
this
public
hearing
is
being
recorded
in
broadcast,
live
channels,
comcast
8,
rcn,
82
and
verizon.
1964
as
well
as
streaming
on
the
city
of
boston
website,
so
please
silence
your
cell
phones
and
other
devices.
A
We
will
also
take
public
testimony
throughout
the
hearing
from
the
very
large
crowd
that
is,
that
is
here
to
participate.
So
if
anyone
does
wish
to
testify,
please
mark
the
appropriate
box
on
the
sign
in
sheets
and
we
will
take
you
in
the
order
that
you
sign
up.
Okay,
so
formally.
These
matters
are
sponsored
by
the
mayor
and
referred
to
the
committee
on
planning,
development
and
transportation.
A
A
Those
three
are
before
us
right
now.
We
will
move
then
to
docket
number:
zero:
five,
zero,
four
reappointment
of
michael
demela
as
a
member
of
the
zoning
commission
for
a
term
ending
november.
First,
twenty
twenty
docket
zero
five
zero
five
reappointment
of
michael
nichols.
As
a
member
of
the
zoning
commission
for
a
term
ending
october
1st
2021
docket
number
zero
five
zero
six
reappointment
of
an
ace
for
ro.
A
As
a
member
of
the
zoning
commission
for
a
term
ending,
may
1st
2021
docket
number
zero
five
zero,
seven
reappointment
of
jill
hatton
as
a
member
of
the
zoning
commission
for
a
term
ending,
may
1st
2021
and
then
finally,
for
this
first
part
of
first
hearing
docket
number
0508
reappointment
of
joanne
keith
as
a
member
of
the
zoning
commission
for
a
term
ending
october
1st
2021,
would
my
colleagues
like
to
offer
any
statements
before
we
dive
in
okay?
Great
then
we
will
go
straight
in
and
let's
see
starting
with
so
is
is
where's.
A
Neil
is
kathy.
Oh
great
kathy's
running
a
little
okay.
So
all
right!
So
please
we
have
an
overview
of
the
the
bid
for
and
anything
relevant
that
counselors
need
to
know.
Thank
you.
B
B
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
opportunity
to
appear
before
your
committee
before
I
introduce
the
nominees
I'd
like
to
just
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
bedford
and
its
history.
It
the
bid
for
promotes
economic
growth
and
employment
in
the
city
of
boston,
by
serving
as
a
conduit
issuer
of
bonds
that
finance
the
capital
needs
of
city,
businesses
and
institutions.
The
authority
is
staffed
by
my
office
through
the
bpda.
B
The
financing
available
includes
tax
exemptions
for
nonprofits
and
for
qualified
manufacturers
and
by
utilizing
bid
for
qualified
borrowers
can
finance
their
capital
needs
for
the
issuance
of
tax-exempt
debt
and
it
generally
results
in
significant
savings
over
standard
commercial
debt
and
to
clarify
the
term
tax
exempt.
In
this
concept,
the
purchaser
of
the
bond
doesn't
pay
taxes
on
the
bond
revenue.
Thus
they
pass
back
a
lower
interest
rate,
reflective
of
that
savings
to
the
bond
issuer.
Who
is
borrower
in
more
simple
terms
and
it
allows
it
facilitates
deals
that
wouldn't
cash
flow
to
happen?
B
That's
really
the
difference.
I
mean.
If,
if
it
wasn't
in
place,
it
would
require
going
out
and
raising
more
equity
or
it
would.
You
know
somehow
showing
more
revenues
or
other
subordinated
debt
or
whatever
it
might
be,
to
give
a
comfort
factor
to
that
lender
that
the
cash
flows
are
sufficient.
I
mean
it's,
you
know,
facilitated
a
number
of
projects
over
the
years
and
a
couple
of
other
points.
B
B
This
is
not
a
wave
on
property
taxes
or
any
taxes
to
the
city
of
boston.
This
is
on
federal
income
taxes
and
just
the
idea
of
some
numbers
since
its
inception
in
1972,
bidford
served
as
conduit
issuer
for
572
million
dollars
in
bonds,
and
we
estimate
that's
created
or
retained
over
20
300
jobs.
In
the
city
of
boston,
just
to
finish
it
to
mention
our
most
recent
bond
that
we
participated
in
was
for
the
new
pipefitters
union
training
building
fund.
B
It
was
a
25
million
dollar
bond
to
help
them
redo
their
building
over
in
dorchester
on
enterprise
street
and
they've
got
you
know
their
membership.
I
had
some
statistics
going
back
from
2010
to
2016
when
we
were
working
on
it
I
mean
their
membership
had
gone
up
a
thousand
people
over
that
term
and
continues
to
grow,
and
specifically,
this
is
for
the
training
location.
So
this
can
have
a
real
impact
on
job
creation
in
the
city
and
people
being
drawn
in
as
journeyman
and
and
that's
what
bidford
does.
A
Sorry
bill
before
we
go
to
the
specific
nominees
I'll
also,
I
want
to
recognize
that
council
o'malley
has
joined
us.
A
And
just
I
had
one
clarifying
question
I
didn't
know
if
any
of
my
colleagues
also
had
clarifying
questions
on
just
the
authority
itself
or
any
of
the
criteria,
but
are
there?
Does
the
statute
or
the
any
internal
policies
require
any
specific
type
of
qualifications
or
background
for
the
nominees.
B
Well,
the
there
there
are
three
categories
that
that
the
rules
under
chapter
40
d
want
to
see
represented,
which
is
finance
legal
in
government.
And
so
that's
we're
very
aware
of
that.
In
putting
together
the
makeup
of
the
board.
A
Okay,
and
can
you
can
you
remind
me,
is
it
how
many
seats
in
each
or
or
each
person
just
has
to
be
one
of
those
three
or
how
does
that.
B
No
they're
not
specified
chairs
it's
just
in
the
in
the
bylaws.
It's
just
that
they
there
be
representation
of
somebody
with
those
understandings.
You
know
broad
broadly
stated:
you
want
to
have
people
with
legal,
legal
expertise.
People
who
understand,
financing
and
people
understand
development,
and
you
know,
and
all
of
those
inputs
into
the
process-
and
we
have
a
very
strong
group
of
people
in
all
of
those
categories
here.
A
B
Okay,
first,
I'd
like
to
introduce
gerardo
espinoza
dorado
is
the
executive
director
of
the
local
enterprise
assistant
fund
leaf,
that's
a
cdfi
that
does
promote
human
and
economic
development,
and
specifically,
I
can
say
on
the
other
program,
I
manage
the
boston,
local
development
corporation,
small
business
fund.
We've
done
so
much
work
with
gerardo's
organization
in
helping
to
facilitate
small
business
loans
to
women,
minority
inner
city
businesses.
C
Yeah
good
morning,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
these
comments.
The
my
name
is
geraldo
espinoza
and
I
currently
serve
as
executive
director
of
the
local
enterprise
assistance
fund.
We
normally
go
by
the
acronym
that
is
leaf
and
the
leaf
is
a
community
development.
Financial
institution
certified
by
the
u.s
treasury
as
a
financial
institution
and
part
of
our
funding
comes
from
the
u.s
treasury,
from
foundations
from
faith
organizations
and
in
turn
we
use
these
funds
to
for
to
make
loans
and
loans
that
have
certain
type
specific
type
of
social
impact.
C
Particularly,
I
think
that
particularly
relevant
to
the
conversation
today
is
to
mention
that
leaf
provides
two
type
of
programs
in
boston
massachusetts.
One
one
of
them
is
technical
assistance
to
small
businesses
and
the
other
one
is
the
other
one
is
lending
to
a
small
business,
but
particularly
with
a
focus
on
women-owned
or
minority-owned
businesses,
and
that
is
one
component
of
our
activities
and
that's
pretty
pretty
much
where
we
intersect
with
bills
activities
and
the
other
element
of
our
activities.
C
More
recently
is
that
the
organization
was
selected
to
be
the
lead
administrator
of
a
state
initiative
called
the
massachusetts
food
trust
program.
It's
a
healthy
food
initiative
of
the
state
of
massachusetts,
so
through
that
program
we're
providing
financing
to
grocery
stores,
farmer
markets
and
other
establishments
to
facilitate
the
access
of
healthy
food,
particularly
in
lower
income
neighborhoods,
and
so
that
is,
I
think,
a
summary
of
the
core
activities
that
live
and
be
before
leave.
D
I
reviewed
your
resume
and
I
think
you
have
excellent
work
experience
and,
and
I'm
glad
you've
dedicated
and
committed
to
helping
minority
companies
minority-owned
companies
women-owned
companies,
so
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
your
your
work
for
so
many
years
on
this
on
this
important
issue.
I
don't
have
any
questions
I
just
wanted
to.
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you.
E
E
I
think
it
makes
it
makes
you
a
perfect
fit
for
bid
for
so
I'm
happy
to
support
your
candidacy
and
and
just
quickly
to
bill
the
pipefitters
building
is
it's
absolutely
beautiful.
First
of
its
kind,
first
class
facility
training
facility
get
a
chance
to
get
over
there
with
councillor
flynn
recently
for
a
an
opening
and
tour,
and
you
know
makes
you
want
to
be
a
fight
fitter.
E
You
know
so
instead
of
a
politician,
but
I
know
that's
going
to
be
it's
a
great
asset
for
our
city
and
it's
to
your
point.
It's
you
see.
That's
going
to
turn
a
lot
of
folks
on
to
that
trade.
E
B
E
That's
great
yeah,
that's
another
one!
So
so
thank
you
for
the
work
that
that
you
do
bill
on
behalf
of
bidford
and
in
reaching
out
to
our
building
trades
and
and
making
sure
we're
providing
as
much
opportunity
as
the
skyline
continues
to
grow,
and
the
economic
opportunity
continues
to
come
to
our
city.
It's
important
for
us
to
make
sure
that
our
residents
and
our
citizens
are
are
prepared
to
tap
into
to
that
hope
and
opportunity.
That's
out
there
so
appreciate
your
efforts.
Thank
you.
F
Thank
chair.
Thank
you,
ladies
and.
G
Gentlemen
for
your
dedication
to
public
service
and
all
resumes
are
incredibly
impressive
and
look
forward
to
continuing
to
work
or
working
with
some
new
folks,
so
I
have
no
questions
at
the
time
this
time,
other
than
really
impressed
with
the
breadth
and
depth
of
experience
that
you
all
bring
to
the
table.
So
thank
you,
madam
chair.
A
Thank
you
councilor
mali.
Mr
espinosa,
how
would
you
interpret
the
mission
of
bidfah.
C
As
following
on,
what
bill
was
mentioning
is
to
improve
the
the
basic
end
of
bitcoin
is
to
improve
the
economic
well-being
of
the
residents
of
the
city
of
boston,
and
I
think
that
is
a
combination
of
a
number
of
activities
that
benefit
the
community
could
be
a
small
business.
Development
could
be
real
estate
through
the
programs
that
he
mentioned
on
other
initiatives.
I
think
we
intersect
in
some
of
those
and
so
we'll
be
happy
to
assist
and
contribute
to
the
mission
of
bill's
organization.
A
Could
you
and
I'm
going
to
ask
all
these
to
all
of
the
the
nominees,
so
you
can
get
a
little
sneak
preview?
Could
you
describe
one
thing
that
what
either
an
area
or
a
specific
accomplishment?
Basically
one
thing
that
has
been
going
really
well
for
bidfah
and
then
maybe
something
that
the
authority's
not
doing
now
that
you
would
like
to
move
into
doing.
C
Yeah,
so
the
the
area
that
I
know
better
of
beef
activities
is
what
we
do
with
the
small
businesses
and
the
I
should
add
as
well
that
we
are.
We
provide
technical
assistance
for
a
small
business
through
the
main
street
program
of
the
city
of
boston,
where
of
the
ta
providers,
and
in
that
capacity
we
have
identified
businesses
that
have
the
need
for
technical
assistance
and
as
a
follow-up
to
that
for
the
need
of
the
financing
related
to
that
and
some
of
them,
particularly
the
flexible
financing
that
bill's
organization
can
provide.
C
C
Probably
my
senses,
bill's
organization
would
like
to
see
more
is
in
the
issuance
of
bond,
which
more
recently
has
I
think,
being
more
in
the
hands
of
the
mass
development
authority,
but
to
the
extent
that
they
can
develop
more
that
field.
I
think
it
will
help
the
organization
and
the
resources
of
the
organization.
A
A
Great
thank
you.
I
want
to
recognize
that
counselor
josh
zakim
has
joined
us
as
well
councillor
zakim
for
this
segment.
The
bidph
nominees
we're
actually
going
nominee
by
nominee.
I
think
it's
looking
like
it
may
not
be
possible,
given
the
number
for
the
others,
but
do
you
have
any
questions
specifically
for
gerardo?
B
Next,
I'd
like
to
introduce
attorney,
sami
nabulsi,
sami
used
to
be
with
the
city
of
boston
as
in-house
council,
but
he
most
recently
is
at
rose
chinitz
and
rose
law
firm.
He
represents
various
clients,
colleges,
universities,
municipalities
and
employers
in
litigation
and
administrative
appeals,
and
just
before
I
pass
it
over
to
him.
We've
had
a
couple
of
conversations
and
we're
just
getting
to
know
each
other.
B
His
experience
with
the
universities
is
going
to
bring
an
enormous
voice
to
the
bedford
board,
especially
in
some
of
the
new
initiatives
we're
trying
to
move
to
in
the
energy
space
and
remediation
space.
As
far
as
the
rising
issues
of
rising
water
levels,
we're
looking
at
developing
new
products
to
help
support
the
issues
there
and
I
think
he
he
brings
just
from
our
conversation.
It's
going
to
bring
a
lot
to
the
table
in
that
world.
B
H
Great
thank
you
bill.
Thank
you,
chairperson
wu
councillor,
flaherty
councillor
flynn,
council
o'malley
and
councillor
zaikum.
It's
truly
an
honor
and
pleasure
to
be
here
this
morning.
My
name
is
samuel.
Bolsey,
I'm
a
resident
of
roxbury
knox,
rockstar
neighborhood
here
in
boston
as
bill
said,
I'm
currently
an
attorney
with
the
law.
Firm
of
rose
chinaton-rose
as
an
attorney
there.
H
More
recently,
I
was
an
attorney
in
the
city
of
boston
law
department
for
around
a
little
over.
I
think,
three
years
where
I've
served
as
the
primary
legal
counsel
to
the
office
of
environment,
energy
and
open
space
office
of
women's
advancement
office
for
immigrant
advancement,
inspectional
services,
department,
community
preservation
committee
and
a
few
others,
and
in
that
role
I
also
represented
and
counseled
over
a
dozen
boards
and
commissions
of
the
city
of
boston.
H
I
think
the
toughest
part
about
leaving
that
position
is
like
you
all
here
and
the
other
members
on
this
panel.
Public
service
is
in
my
blood,
and
so,
if
I
can
really
begin
with
why
I'm
I'm
here
today,
I
think,
first
and
foremost,
I
want
to
find
ways
to
continue
to
give
back
to
my
community
here
in
boston
through
various
ways,
and
I
think
just
being
part
of
a
board
of
or
commission
is
an
excellent
opportunity
to
do
so.
H
In
addition
to
serving
as
an
attorney
with
the
law,
firm
of
rose
chinese
and
rose,
I'm
also
an
adjunct,
professor
of
legal
writing
and
research
at
suffolk
university
law
school,
and
I
am
very
much
looking
forward
to
working
with
this
team
and
working
with
all
of
you
to
promote
economic
development
in
boston
through
the
bid
fund.
Thank
you.
E
Thank
you,
we're
obviously
very
familiar
with
sami
with
his
work
from
as
assistant
corporation
council,
so
I
can
attest.
We've
worked
together.
I
know
he's
worked
with
this
council
he's
very
well
versed
in
many
different
aspects
of
municipal
government,
particularly
as
it
pertains
to
finance
procurement,
licensing
service
contracts
and
grants.
So
the
resume
is
very
impressive,
with
some
intern
stints
at
the
u.s
district
court
for
a
circuit
as
well
and
he's
affiliated
with
some
very
reputable
law
firms
in
boston
as
well
as
academic
institutions.
E
A
You
councillor
flaherty
council
zakum,
any
questions
for
mr
nabalsi
okay,
so
I
don't
know
if
you
had
them
written
down
but
to
stream.
So
how
would
you
interpret
the
mission
of
bidfah.
H
Sure
you
know
number
one,
I
would
say
I
think,
simply
the
mission
of
bitfuzz
really
to
promote
economic
development.
The
the
types
of
you
know
this
was
obviously
created
for
a
special
purpose.
The
types
of
financing
that
it
offers
are
for
entities
and
projects
that
ordinarily
would
not
receive
ordinary
financing
so
number
one.
I
think
it's
economic
development,
but
I
think
that
also
comes
with
a
component
which
is
equity.
H
The
you
know
again,
it's
it's
made
to
promote
manufacturing
jobs.
It's
made
to
promote
non-profit,
holds
in
the
city
of
boston,
and
I
think,
in
addition
to
just
economic
development,
I
think
it
promotes
you
know
an
equitable
mission,
which
is
to
promote
kind
of
these
educational
charitable
missions.
In
addition
to
corporate
corporate
missions
in
the
city
of
boston,.
A
Right
and
so
along
those
lines,
what
is
bid
for
doing
really
well
right
now,
and
is
there
anything
that
bid
for
is
not
doing
that?
You
would
like
to
see
the
authority
move
into.
H
H
I
think
there
are
two
issues,
though,
with
bitfile
that
I
that
I
look
forward
to
working
with
everyone
here
on
as
we
move
forward,
you
know,
number
one
you
know
while
bidphi
has
bill
and
bill
is,
is,
is
wonderful,
he's
juggling
various
things.
I
think
that
the
board
of
directors
could
do
more
in
making
sure
that
people
know
about
bidfah.
H
I
think
the
website's
great,
I
think
bill
does
a
great
job
meeting
with
nonprofits
and
banks
around
the
city
of
boston.
But
what
can
other
members
of
this
board
do
to
make
sure
that
non-profit
organizations
other
entities
either
thinking
about
coming
to
boston
or
already
in
boston?
Do
they
know
about
bitfa
and
do
they
know
about
the
financing
opportunities
that
are
provided
by
bidfah?
And
I
think
we
can
do
more
in
the
space
of
just
letting
people
know
that
it
exists
and
then
number
two.
H
I
do
think
that
bitfo
was
created
to
serve
a
20th
century
mission.
Can
we
bring
that
unique
financing
into
21st
century
problems
right?
So
as
bill
said,
and
I
and
I
share
this
with
them-
and
I
worked
on
a
lot
of
these
when
I
was
here
at
the
city.
Can
we
use
this
as
an
opportunity
to
work
on
projects
related
to
energy
and
energy
retrofits?
H
These
are
things
that
are
difficult
to
finance
and-
and
I
think,
with
these
cheaper
forms
of
financing,
we
might
be
able
to
find
very
innovative
pathways
to
promote
the
necessary
retrofits
that
we
need
in
the
city
of
boston
and
the
necessary
waterfront
development
or
or
or
changes
to
promote
a
resilient
boston
as
we
move
forward
and
forward
into
the
future.
H
Sure
I
think
there
are
several
ways
you
know
number
one,
I
think
as
a
board.
We
are
a
board
of
directors.
I
don't
think
it's
enough
to
just
attend
the
meetings
that
are
noticed
and
to
be
there
and
participate.
I
think
we
all
owe
a
fiduciary
duty
to
the
organization,
and
that
comes
with
constantly
thinking
about
it
and
promoting
it,
and
so
I
think,
between
meetings,
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
the
board
can
do
in
reaching
out
to
our
networks.
I
think
we
all
come
from
very
diverse
backgrounds.
I
B
This
is
kathy's
up
for
reappointment.
She's
been
on
the
board
for
a
number
of
years.
After
a
long
career
running
the
city's
main
street
program
and
serving
as
economic
development
director
at
then,
the
bra
before
we
were
bpda
kathy,
moved
on
to
a
position
she
holds
now.
Is
the
executive
director
of
historic
boston,
a
rehabilitating
endangered
historic
buildings
that
the
market
has
overlooked
and
I'll
pass
it
to
kathy?
To
tell
you
a
little
more.
Thank
you.
J
Great
thank
you
bill
good
morning
counselors,
but
thank
you,
chairman
wu
for
chairperson
wu
pardon
me
for
convening
us
and
and
hearing
or
convening
this
hearing
all
about
the
boston,
industrial
development
finance
authority.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
apologize
for
being
late.
That
was
not
my
intention
today,
but
we
do
have
an
event
tomorrow
at
historic
boston.
That
is
a
little
distracting
at
the
moment,
so
I
invite
you
all
to
be
in
roxbury
at
50
cedar
street,
the
st
james
african
orthodox
church
at
11
30.
If
you
can.
J
Thank
you,
it's
a
pleasure
to
be
here
and
it's
always
a
pleasure
to
talk
about
the
city's
actual
tools
for
financing
and
his
for
for
me,
having
worked
both
directly
with
him
as
a
manager
of
these
programs
at
the
bpda,
as
well
as
through
the
main
street
program
over
the
years,
I've
learned
a
lot
about
the
intersection
of
small
business,
real
estate,
development,
non-profit
health
and
development
and
the
various
tools
for
financing
pieces
of
their
their
strength,
and
I
really
find
that
it's
important
for
us
all
to
understand
that
that
bitfa
is
a
I'm,
probably
counselor.
J
Jumping
right
to
your
questions,
because
in
a
way
my
bill
has
talked
about
my
interests
and
career
and
in
my
capacity
as
executive
director
of
a
nonprofit
organization
that
does
rehabilitate
endangered
historic
buildings
and
engages
in
real
estate
and
tries
to
attract
businesses
and
nonprofits
to
those.
J
So
tax
exempt
bonds
play
that
that
role.
They
provide
a
cost-effective
way
for
property
owners,
business
owners
developers
to
undertake
those
activities
in
a
way
that
helps
them
both
survive,
but
also
thrive.
And
I
think
for
us
too,
we
often
talk
about
small
business,
but
it's
a
tough
game
in
small
business.
J
It
takes
a
lot
for
enterprises
to
succeed,
and
it's
important
for
us
to
be
able
to
have
tools
in
city
hall,
to
step
up
and
support
small
enterprises,
and
I'm
talking
businesses
with
200
jobs
or
less
not
just
mom
mom
and
pops-
don't
really
play
here.
We're
really
talking
about
that
that
group
of
businesses
that
provide
really
good,
often
manufacturing
or
processing
jobs
or
non-profit
organizations
that
obviously
are
con
together
an
important
sector
in
the
city.
J
J
I
hope
sentiment
that
we
could
be
more
strategic
in
thinking
about
what's
coming
and
what
we
need
to
be
fostering
and
supporting.
But
I
also
think
that
the
bpda
could
also
be
redirecting
or
training
project
managers
to
know
this
instrument
really
really
well.
So
they
can
refer
properties
that
are
coming
through
the
development
pipeline
to
bill
and
to
all
of
us.
J
I
also
think
that
we
as
a
board
could
also
be,
and-
and
I
do
think
we
do
this-
that
we
can
be
really
good
about
reaching
out
to
our
constituencies,
and
I
think
we've
got
some
folks
here
that
do
immediately
touch
base
with
a
diverse
range
of
people
and
enterprises
every
day
and
we
can
be
making
those
referrals
as
well
outside
and
in
you
know,
I
think
the
the
notion
of
having
as
many
tools
in
our
toolkit
is
probably
the
most
important
thing,
though,
that
we
can
be
offering
low-cost
financing
to
enterprises
to
to
be
in
non-profit
organizations
to
be
able
to
stay
in
the
city
to
improve
our
neighborhoods
and
to
provide
ongoing
employment
for
people
so
I'll.
D
Thank
you,
council,
woo,
and
thank
you,
catherine,
and
you
have
an
excellent
background.
Excellent
education,
I'm
looking
forward
to
supporting
your
nomination
as
I
am
for
sammy,
and
I
already
talked
about
mr
espinoza.
I
was
just
wondering,
catherine.
I
know
you
highlighted
in
your
opening
statement
outreach
to
the
community.
D
I
had
a
hearing
yesterday
at
the
city
council
on
language
access
making
sure
that
city
departments
city
council
is
able
to
communicate
with
residents
of
the
city
and
in
languages
other
than
english
as
well.
Do
you
have
any
plans
to
you
know
reach
out
to
various
constituencies
that
that
may
not
speak
english.
J
It's
a
really
really
important
point:
it's
I'm
probably
the
worst
person
personally
to
speak
to
this,
since
my
language
skills
are
pretty
limited,
but
I
think
that
alone
speaks
to
the
need.
I
I
think,
though,
I'd
like
to
believe
we
have
networks
amongst
ourselves.
J
I
know
that
in
my
own
business,
if
I
historic
boston,
if
we
were
to
need
to
reach
into
a
constituency
that
doesn't
predominantly
speak
english,
we
would
be
seeking
out
our
friends,
peers
or
even
professionals,
and
I
would
like
to
think
that
that
would
be
a
set
of
approaches
to
take
in
in
knowing
that
we
are
entering
and
being
sensitive
to
entering
certain
communities
that
are
not
who
do
not
speak.
Primarily.
English.
D
No
thank
you
and
thank
you
for
your
excellent,
excellent
work
on
on
many
issues
in
the
city.
For
for
for
many
years,
then
my
my
final
question
or
comment
is
maybe
to
bill
or
or
to
you
as
well
catherine.
D
Could
we
also
just
take
a
look
going
forward
at
looking
at
some
of
the
very
small
businesses
that
we
see
in
our
neighborhoods
that
maybe
only
you
know
two
or
three
people
they're
struggling
to
pay
the
pay,
the
rents
on
to
stay
in
their
location
at
a
I
had
a
hairdresser
in
in
chinatown,
and
he
was
struggling
to
afford
to
afford
his
bills
and
there
was
these
elderly
women
coming
out
of
out
of
their
homes
to
pay
two
dollars
or
three
dollars
so
that
this
small
business
owner
could
could
hire
a
lawyer.
B
Could
I
speak
today
and
kathy?
Oh,
you
should
yes,
the
purpose
of
bid
for
is
specifically
to
finance
larger
scale
projects.
The
entry
point
about
two
million
dollars
before
the
savings
can
be
realized
by
doing
a
tax-exempt
bond
and
it's
limited
by
federal
tax
code
to
501,
c3s
and
qualified
manufacturers.
B
However,
the
other
program,
the
sister
program,
so
to
speak,
that
I
manage
the
boston
local
development
corporation-
is
that
it
targets
exactly
what
you're
describing
we
make
small
business
loans
through
that
fund.
The
program
has
its
own
funds.
In
there
it's
it's
over,
it's,
it
is
itself
a
501c3
with
a
board
of
trustees,
bankers
attorneys,
community
development.
People
said
on
that
board
and
we
make
small
business
loans
and
exactly
what
you're
talking
about.
B
I
saw
the
article
the
gentleman
you
you're
talking
about
and
specifically
that
case
and
was
looking
to
see
if
it
could
get
some
outreach.
If
you
have
a
contact
to
connect
me
with
him,
that
would
be
awesome.
I
do,
and
I'm
also
always
looking
anybody
who's
small
business
to
put
them
in
my
direction,
because
we're
always
looking
one
of
the
hardest
things
for
people
to
do
is
to
find
out.
We
exist
right.
B
In
the
past
year
we
had
a
standalone
website
and
that's
helping
us
some,
but
people
just
you
know
when
they
try
to
maneuver
the
city
services.
So
I
love
it.
If
anyone
related
to
the
council
staff
would
aim
people
in
my
direction,
that's
what
the
small
business
fund
is
for,
and
we
also
work
with
other
non-profits,
like
dorado's
organization
leave
and
put
together
packages
to
share
the
risk
or
to
provide
different
services
like
technical
assistance
through
leaf
and
a
small
business
loan
through
us.
B
We
also
work
with
banks
to
provide
subordinated
debt
through
that
loan
fund
to
help
facilitate
getting
a
bank
to
the
table
for
a
project.
So
that's
that
that's
the
place
for
that
assistance
is
in
that
program
and
we've
just
in
the
past
year.
We've
done
about
a
million
dollars
in
loans
through
the
program,
and
I
had
one
12-month
snapshot
where
all
of
the
businesses
were
woman-owned:
a
woman
co-owned
and
the
majority
of
them
a
minority
owned
and
the
other
small
businesses.
You
are
describing
right:
the
local
job
creators,
the
hair,
salons,
no.
D
Thank
you
bill.
I
appreciate
that.
I
I
just
wanted
to
provide
a
little
bit
of
background.
Is
you
know,
during
the
difficult
times
in
boston,
over
the
last
30
or
40
years,
these
small
business
owners
were
here
were
struggling
to
pay
their
rent,
and
now
the
city
is
booming,
it's
doing
well.
D
We
want
to
make
sure
that,
during
the
good
times
that
there's
an
opportunity
for
these
women-owned
and
minority-owned
businesses
that
helped
build
the
city
help
build
our
neighborhoods
that
there's
still
a
opportunity
for
them
to
provide
their
provide
their
skills
here
in
the
city.
So
I
I
do
appreciate
the
hard
work
that
your
staff
is
doing
on
on
these
many
issues.
Thank
you.
C
E
You
manager
I'm
excited
to
to
support
your
reappointment
kathy.
A
thank
you
you
know.
Obviously
a
two-page
resume
is
is
impressive.
I
I.
E
Where
I
met
you,
which
is
right
in
the
middle
here
of
all
of
the
great
work,
but
when
you
were
the
director
of
the
boston
main
streets
program
back
in
1995
and
right,
I
remember
well
so
you're
important
to
boston
in
our
neighborhoods,
your
community
involvement,
your
passion
for
boston
and
for
making
our
city
great.
Is
it's
it's
important
to
me
in
terms
of
having
that
great
quality.
E
So
I
know
that
the
work
you've
done
on
the
main
streets
programs,
which
helps
revitalize
our
small
local
business
areas,
which
has
paid
dividends
as
and
still
in
existence
today.
You
also
do
not
a
lot
of
folks
and
it's
not
on
the
resume,
but
you
do
a
lot
of
things
behind
the
scenes.
E
You
know
you
champion
different
causes.
You
have
a
great
way
of
connecting
people
and
organizations
together
that
may
not
even
sort
of
know
that
they
have
any
synergy
but
you're
the
sort
of
that
cog
in
the
wheel.
That
makes
it
happen.
You
start
we
saw
it
firsthand
with
the
cpa,
the
community
preservation
act
and
you're
right
right
in
the
middle
of
that
and
sort
of
just
connecting
people
and
organizations
with
opportunity.
That's
there.
E
So
that's
that's
a
very
important
impression
of
quality
for
me
from
your
community
activism
standpoint,
but
but
the
resume
and
in
your
professional
experiences
as
you're
well
suited
to
be
reappointed
to
to
the
board.
So
I'm
happy
to
call
your
friend
and
happy
to
support
your
candidacy.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank.
A
You,
council,
flaherty
councillor
zakim,
so
my
you
address
all
of
my
earlier
questions
and
so
beca
as
a
bonus
because
you're
a
reappointment.
What
have
your?
What
could
you
characterize
just
briefly,
because
I
know
we're
also
running
behind
a
brief
statement
on
what
generally
your
contributions
to
the
board
have
been
and
in
just
a
category
not
not
individual,
and
then
how
would
you
approach
another
term
differently?.
J
I
think
the
perspective
I
bring
is
probably
a
little
bit
of
what
I
just
said,
and
that
is
that
we're
often
talking
we,
we
as
a
board
frequently
are
talking
with
yes,
the
developer
that
might
be
bringing
in
or
a
representative
of
an
institution
bringing
in
their
project,
but
we're
also
frequently
talking
to
the
lawyers
and
all
of
the
others
who
are
dotting
the
eyes
and
crossing
the
t's
and
figuring
out
how
the
the
actual
financing
instrument
will
be
effectuated,
and
you
know
we
we
are
needing
at
that
point,
to
really
be
keeping
front
and
center.
J
The
reason
why
we
even
have
this
to
begin
with,
and
that
is,
are
we
getting
the
jobs?
Are
we
getting
the
the
benefit
to
the
neighborhood
in
which
a
project
is
located
are
all
of
the
the
other
things
that
probably
are
part
of
other
types
of
reviews
of
the
bpda
are
actually
being
addressed
and
and
really
front
and
center,
while
we're
working
through
all
the
technicalities
of
the
the
actual
application
and
the
bond
itself.
J
A
J
D
D
D
D
D
A
A
A
Questions,
but
thank
you
to
the
nominees
one.
Two
three
four
four
out
of
five
were
able
to
join
us.
I
know
that
one
michael
nichols
did
send
in
a
letter
that
he
is
traveling
out
of
state
and
has
sent
in
some
materials,
so
we
can
I'll
make
sure
the
counselors
receive
all
that,
but
for
those
who
were
able
to
join.
Thank
you
so
much
for
taking
the
time
and
for
your
patience
jeff.
Could
you
kick
us
off
just
with
the
description
and
any
other
introductions
you'd
like
to
make.
K
Great
thank
you,
madam
chairwoman.
Counselor
flynn,
counselor
zakim.
Thank
you
for
entertaining
us
here
this
morning.
My
name
is
jeff
hampton.
I
am
the
senior
zoning
planner
for
the
bpda,
I'm
also
the
executive
secretary
of
the
boston
zoning
commission.
The
zoning
commission
is
tasked
with
enacting
all
of
the
zoning
laws
for
the
city
of
boston,
whether
they
be
through
text
or
through
maps.
K
K
The
new
development
in
south
bay
shopping
center.
They
are
also
tasked
with
approving
institutional
master
plans,
master
plans
for
colleges
and
hospitals
for
a
period
ranging
anywhere
from
four
to
ten
years.
Some
of
the
recent
examples
of
that
would
be
the
developments
over
at
boston
college
and
the
committee.
The
commission,
rather
is
made
up
of
11
members
representing
neighborhood
groups,
trades
even
homeowners,
and
it's
my
privilege
to
introduce
the
four
candidates
here
for
reappointment.
K
I
think
they
are
a
very
intelligent
and
very
good
representative
of
what
a
city
commission
should
be.
They
ask
very
detailed
questions.
They
ask
for
everything
that
goes
on
in
the
community,
not
just
a
rubber
stamp,
knowing
that
they
are
the
last
ones
to
approve
any
sort
of
legislation
or
approve
the
the
proposed
projects.
K
So,
with
respect
to
time,
I'd
like
to
disperse
with
the
formal
introductions
of
the
four
candidates
before
you
today,
and
I
would
ask
for
the
committee's
recommendation
for
approval
of
mike
demela
anna
east
faro,
joanne,
keith
and
jill
hatten.
Thank
you.
A
Great
sorry,
so
the
last
question
I
will
have
for
you
jeff
and
I
don't
know
if
counselors
have
any
other
clarifying
questions
just
on
the
commission
in
general.
But
could
you
specify
which
categories
each
of
our
nominees
sure.
K
I
believe
anna
east
is
the
homeowner
lives
in
mattapan.
Joanne
keith
represents
the
mount
pleasant,
neighborhood
group
mike
greater
boston,
real
estate
board.
Yes
and
jill
hatton
is
the
at-large
representative.
Okay,.
A
Okay,
great
so
any
questions
from
colleagues
for
jeff
in
particular
about
zoning
christian
great.
So
then,
why
don't
we
do
this?
If
each
of
the
members
could
just
very
briefly
introduce
yourself
and
kind
of
give
a
view
of
why
you
want
to
be
reappointed
to
this
particular.
L
Institution,
let
me
start
over
there.
Thank
you
for
the
time
and
and
the
opportunity
here
today,
chair,
wu
and
council,
flaherty
flynn
and
tacom
appreciate
the
opportunity,
and
I'm
mike
demela,
chairperson,
managing
partner
of
charles
gate,
realty
group,
or
a
brokerage
and
management
firm
here
in
in
boston.
I've
also,
most
recently
been
chair
of
the
great
boston
real
estate
board.
L
N
I've
lived
in
boston,
almost
my
entire
life,
with
the
exception
of
eight
years
when
I
lived
in
washington
dc,
which
is
another
city
in
the
united
states.
That's
experiencing
amazing
growth
and
I
think,
having
the
perspective
of
what
it
looks
like
there
and
what
it
looks
like
here
has
helped
to
make
me,
I
think,
a
vital
part
of
this
commission.
O
Okay,
that's
great
well
good
morning,
therapist,
chairperson
wu
and
other
committee
committee
members
who
also
just
joined
us.
My
name
is
anais
faro.
I've
served
on
the
zoning
commission
for
two
years.
As
jeff
mentioned,
I
lived
in
matapan.
I've
lived
in
manapan
for
eight
years.
I
was
the
original
homeowner
for
homestead
green
development
on
the
former
boston
state
hospital
in
2011,
and
ever
since
I've
worked
in
state
government,
I've
worked
in
the
city
government
and
I'm
currently
with
the
attorney
general's
office.
O
I
think
that
it's
been
a
pleasure
serving
on
the
board
kind
of
getting
a
sense
of
how
boston
is
evolving
and
the
different
developments
that
are
changing
the
social
fabric.
As
my
former
colleagues
have
mentioned,
it's
been
interesting
understanding
how
these
new
developments
are
meeting
community
community
needs
and
making
sure
that
everyone
is
on
board
with
the
landscape
of
where
the
city
of
boston
is
headed
wearing
different
hats.
I
do
have
a
master's
degree
in
public
policy
and
administration.
So
it's
really
been
insightful
understanding
the
touch
point
and
how
all
of
it
interfaces.
O
You
know
how
it
you
know
how
it
looks
like
when
the
community
is
involving
and
the
needs
of
everyone
that
are
being
met,
so
one
of
my
honor
in
being
in
the
community
honestly,
it's
seeing
the
increasing
communities
coming
in
to
the
zoning
commission
meetings
and
expressing
their
approval
and
disapproval
of
these
new
projects
and
the
board
members
paying
very
close
attention
to
what
these
needs
are
making
sure
they're
reflected
in
the
projects
that
are
coming
in.
So
I
am
excited
to
serve
another
three
years.
A
D
Thank
you.
I
I
don't
have
any
questions
other
than
a
brief
comment.
I
reviewed
all
of
the
resumes
and
I
know
all
of
you
are
well
qualified-
have
excellent
education
background
skills,
but
I
was
also
impressed
with
the
level
of
community
involvement
you
have
across
the
neighborhoods
of
boston.
D
So
I
know
you'll
continue
to
do
a
good
job
for
the
residents
of
boston,
and
you
know
I'm
happy
to
support
your
nominations
when
it
comes
up.
So
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
all
your
support,
helping
helping
grow
the
city,
helping
move,
boston,
move
forward.
We
appreciate
everything
that
you're
doing.
A
E
I
just
want
to
thank
you
all
for
your
willingness
to
serve
and
for
the
work
that
you're
currently
doing
on
the
boston
zoning
commission.
I
know
firsthand
my
father
had
served
on
the
zoning
commission,
so
I
know
the
role
that
you
play
for
our
city
and
the
future
of
our
city.
E
You
had
referenced
sort
of
the
evolution
of
boston
and
that
takes
place
right
in
front
of
you
on
a
weekly
basis,
as
people
are
making
presentations
of
plans
working
closely
with
elected
leaders
and
community
groups,
but
also
with
the
the
bra
under
the
leadership
of
jeff
hampton
who
does
a
phenomenal
job
up
there.
So
only
footnote
I'll
have
is.
I
think
that
we're
we're
we're
an
interesting
time
in
our
city,
particularly
as
it
pertains
to
sort
of
the
marijuana
bonanza
and
our
offices,
our
phones,
there's
a
total
division.
E
That's
been
set
up
for
new
emerging
industries
and
this
council
working
with
our
mayor
and
working
with
the
bra
and
the
zoning
commission.
We
put
a
very
critical
and
a
very
important
half-mile
buffer
in
to
make
sure
that
we're
protecting
neighborhoods
so
that
no
one
neighborhood
is
sort
of
overrun.
E
You
know
by
the
bonanza
as
I'm
calling
it,
because
it's
a
feeding,
frenzy
feeding
frenzy
to
get
open
and
to
get
there
and
to
be
first
and
we
know
of
people
that
are
in
other
different
businesses
and
industries
that
are
basically
cashing
in
there.
They're
retiring
they're,
taking
their
401k
and
everyone's
dumping.
E
It
into
to
this,
and-
and
I
hope
that
they
don't
lose
their
sort
of
life
savings
and-
and
you
know
in
their
in
their
businesses,
because
at
some
point
I
think
the
federal
government
is
just
going
to
reclassify
marijuana
and
allow
folks
to
get
it
at
cvs
and
rite
aid
and
walgreens.
And
if
that
happens,
then
that
whole
bonanza
is
just
going
to
dry
up.
E
So
I
just
want
to
be
cognizant
as
we
move
forward
as
a
city,
the
role
that
the
zoning
commission
plays,
the
role
that
that
buffer
plays
in
sort
of
protecting
neighborhoods
and
having
a
level
playing
field
and
sort
of
restoring
order
to
the
sort
of
feeding
frenzy.
That's
taking
taking
place
here
in
our
city
for
everyone
to
open
to
be
the
first
pot
shop
and
cannabis
cafe
and
the
new
twist
on
it.
E
So
so
I
appreciate
the
attention
time
and
attention
you've
given
to
that
buffer
and
hope
that
you'll
continue
to
respect
that
buffer
as
we
continue
to
roll
out
and
if,
at
some
point
in
time
the
buffer
we've
met.
Sort
of
the
we've
met
the
ceiling
based
on
our
requirement
based
on
the
state
legislation
and
that
at
that
point
we
need
to
have
a
conversation
about
maybe
making
some
adjustments
or
tweaks
to
the
buffer.
But
I
would
argue
that
that
shouldn't
happen
until
these
things
have
been
rolled
out
until
we've
reached
that
ceiling.
E
And
then,
if
there's
an
additional
demand
to
that,
then
we
can
talk.
About
is
a
half-mile
buffer.
Is
that
now
too
restrictive?
Should
we
talk
about
maybe
a
quarter
of
a
mile
buffer,
but
I
just
want
to
ask
that
that
that
that
we
maintain
and
respect
the
integrity
of
the
buffer
until
this
thing
kind
of
flushes
itself
out,
because
we
really
don't
know
where
it's
going
to
go
and
I'd
hate
to
see
that
thing
trampled
in
the
infancy
stages
as
we're
trying
to
make
some
sense
as
to
what's
happening
throughout
all
of
our
neighborhoods.
E
A
P
You,
madam
chair,
thank
you
all
for
your
service
on
the
commission.
I
look
forward
to
supporting
the
reappointment.
I
also
want
to
make
sure
to
congratulate
mike
here
on
the
birth
of
his
daughter
him
and
his
wife
aaron
your
first
child
right
just
a
couple
weeks
ago,
so
you
look
remarkably
alert
and
awake
and
we're
able
to
answer
those
questions,
but
congratulations
on
that,
and
certainly
for
your
service
to
the
city
on
the
zoning
commission.
Thank
you.
F
O
Much
more
often
actually
than
disapproving
of
it.
We
I
mean
I've
only
served
for
two
years.
You
know
so
I
think
when
there
was
opposition,
it
was
very
clear
that
there
was
opposition,
but
you
know
I've
been
proud
to
hear
a
lot
of
approval,
because
I
guess
the
developers
have
worked
a
lot
with
the
community
to
make
sure
that
they
are
included
in
the
process
early
on
in
the
process
than
what
was
done
in
the
past.
So
we've
gotten
a
lot
of
approvals.
J
Not
be
repetitive,
I
just
thank
you
all
to
be
here,
and
that
will
be
it
for
me.
Thank
you.
Councillor.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
so
I
just
wanted
to
follow
up
briefly
on
councillor
flaherty's
point
in
terms
of
the
buffer
rule.
The
half
mile
radius,
so
is
the
with
the
position
of
all,
because
this
has
now
specifically
come
up
and
had
been
has
been
deferred
until
july,
with
the
east
boston
situation
around
the
two
potential
locations
being
0.4
miles
apart
is
your
perspective
that
the
language
in
the
zoning
code
means
that
those
two
establishments
should
not
both
be
permitted
or
curious
to
hear
your
thoughts.
M
I
guess
I
would
add
to
it
that
when
we
heard
the
proposals
you
know,
there's
been
an
evolution
from
the
medical
marijuana
to
the
retail
and
and
and
part
of
what
we
do
as
a
commission
is,
is
all
kinds
of
uses
and
think
about
it,
and
also.
I
think
this
is
a
great
example
of
how
the
code
is
not
stagnant.
M
It
has
it's
a
living
code
and
we
need
to
have
have
it
addressed
over
time
to
reflect
new
and
emerging
uses,
but
it
is
our
whole
intent
when
that
came
to
us
and
in
recognition
bpda,
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
process
that
occurs
before
matters
come
to
us,
particularly
in
this
case,
but
but
I
think
that
we
felt
that
that
language
was
very
clear,
that
it
provided
enough
opportunity
that
it
didn't
create
an
inability
for
these
publicly
requested
services
to
be
provided.
M
But
we
wanted,
I
think,
the
point
of
not
congregating
them
and
learning
from
that
was
the
intent.
So
I
do
think
that
the
language
was
very
clear
that
if
you
are
within
a
certain
amount
of
distance
from
another
location,
there
was
also
the
school
there's
a
lot
of
state
regulations
too.
The
patchwork
of
all
of
that
was
intended
to
spread
these
out.
So,
if
they're
within
a
distance,
that's
not
the
half
mile
they're
not
going
to
be.
M
N
In
agreement
that
both
one
should
get
a
permit-
and
one
should
not
my
concern,
of
course
and
speaking
to
what
council
councilman
flaherty
said,
is
that
we
want
to
just
ensure
that
you
know
there's
not
an
overrun
on
one
particular
community,
and
this
would
start
that
process
of.
Oh
you,
let
it
happen
in
east
boston.
So
why
not
here
so
just
to
protect
our
neighborhoods
and,
like
you
know,
uphold
the
zoning
code
until
it
needs
to
be
changed
as
it
has
been
set
forth.
A
I
concur
okay.
Thank
you.
I
had
just
a
few
other
quick
questions.
I
I
know
thank
you
for
your
patience,
everyone
I
know
we're
running
behind,
so
we
hear
all
the
time
that
boston
has
the
most
complicated
zoning
code
of
any
city
any
thoughts
on.
A
If
that
is
just
kind
of
where
we
are
or
do
you
have
suggest
you
know
in
a
perfect
world,
maybe
not
next
year
or
the
year
after
that.
But
if
you
were
thinking
about
major
changes
to
the
zoning
code,
what
what
would
some
of
that
direction
be
or
or
are
we
kind
of
just
going
to
be
tweaking
under
this
very
very
complicated
version.
N
Well,
so
one
thing
that
I
would
recommend
is
that
we
actually
look
at
like
the
institutional
master
plans
and
also
like
the
documents
that
are
set
place
for
the
neighborhoods
and
what
the
neighborhoods
look
like.
I
think
sometimes
a
lot
of
those
documents
have
come
to
like
the
end
of
a
term
that
was
set
upon,
and
so
I
think
that
I
mean
anything
is
complicated.
N
You
know,
but
I
think
that
if
we're
actively
looking
at
these
documents
and
making
sure
that
they
fit
within
they
fit
within
like
what
boston
and
the
mayor
would
like
to
see
going
forth
for
the
city,
I
think
that
would
be
the
right
thing
to
do
in
order
to
keep
the
keep
the
laws
and
the
zoning
from
getting
too
complicated.
M
I'm
just
going
to
say,
I
think
the
code
is
it,
it
is
complicated,
but
our
city
is
very
diverse.
It
has
a
lot
of
different
characteristics
and
neighborhoods
and
features,
and
I
think
that
that
that's
part
of
why
we
have
a
very
extensive
zoning
code,
and
certainly
there
are
other
cities
like
san
francisco
that
are
also
extensive,
and
what
I
think
is
most
important
is
that
we
have
clarity
in
the
code
that
we
update
it
continually.
O
I
just
want
to
echo
to
that
and
say
that,
in
addition
to
what's
been
said,
having
it
complicated
brings
conversation
and
it
brings
conversation
at
every
moment
at
any
process,
so
how
mundaney
might
sound
that
we
do
need
for
a
text
amendment
or
a
code?
I
think
that
it
does
affect
abutters
or
anybody
else
in
a
city,
so
I
think
it
forces
folks
to
come
together
and
have
the
conversation
to
understand
whether
or
not
it
fits
the
needs
at
the
moment
for
everyone.
So
maybe
I'm
biased
on
that.
O
L
L
So
I
think
there's
some
opportunity
to
modernize
and
simplify
to
set
sort
of
a
little
bit
more
clear
expectations
and
what
can
be
expected
from
a
developer
going
through
the
process
and
prevent
some
of
the
the
high
sort
of
costs
involved
through
the
development
cycle
to
and
therefore
allow
us
to
build
more
affordable
housing,
more
affordable
opportunities
for
people.
So
I
I
would
sort
of
urge
a
little
bit
more
of
a
look
for
for
all
of
us
to
find
ways
to
simplify
the
code
in
certain
aspects
for
sure.
A
Okay
last
question
from
me,
and
then,
if
folks
want
to,
I
know,
councilor
baker
will
have
another
round.
You
know
when
we
think
about
development
across
the
city
and
zoning
and
kind
of
the
relationship.
One
of
the
most
heartbreaking
you
know
from
every
neighborhood
is
just
the
stories
of
displacement
and
gentrification
in
your
capacity.
What
do
you
think
the
role
of
the
zoning
code
is
in
addressing
gentrification
and
displacement
and
are
there
specific
changes
that
you
would
seek
to
make?
M
There
are
a
lot
of
height
and
density
restrictions
that
are
meant
to
preserve
areas
that
are
largely
neighborhood
areas
where
we
would
have
lower
density
lower
heights
and
in
order
to
pierce
those
or
try
to
change
it,
there's
a
huge
public
process
you
would
have
to
go
to
so
I
think
those
tools
help
us
to
preserve
some
of
the
character
and
opportunities
in
the
neighborhood
to
avoid
displacement,
but
it
can
also
be
a
tool
to
encourage
the
creation
of
affordable
units
within
a
project.
So
part
of
the
zoning
code,
as
you
know,
is
inclusionary
development.
M
We
have
impact
fees,
etc.
So
the
code
is
a
way
and
the
commission
enforces
that
when
developers
are
coming
through,
some
of
that
obviously
is
legislated
outside
of
our
group
and
so
the
ability
to
add
more
affordable
components
or
change.
Some
of
that
would
have
to
come
from
somewhere
else,
but
we're
obviously
cognizant
of
those
minimum
requirements.
When
we
see
deals
as
well.
L
L
N
You,
I
think,
a
review
of
developers
who
come
before
the
zoning
commission
and
what
their
practices
have
been
in
the
past
as
far
as
whether
or
not
they
accept
the
like
impact
fee
or
whether
or
not
they
add
more
inclusionary
housing
is
something
that
would
should
be
a
part
of
our
process.
I
think
if
we
look
closer
at
what
developers
are
doing,
we
can
from
our
our
point
of
view-
and
I
guess
this
would
happen
before
it
came
to
zoning.
N
Of
course,
we
can
kind
of
like
root
out
some
of
this
pushing
out.
That
is
happening
because
people
are
happy
to
pay
a
fee,
as
opposed
to
include
that
inclusionary
housing
component
in
their
development.
Thank.
O
You
one
thing
that
I've
seen
in
my
personal
experiences,
I'm
a
homeowner
in
the
new
development
in
manapan
on
morton
street,
and
I
was
the
one
of
the
original
ones,
and
so
I've
had
this
interesting
perspective
of
seeing
the
developer,
offering
to
new
home
ownership
and
rentals
around
and
talking
to
community
advisory
group
that
was
created
to
oversee
the
project.
The
community
benefits
that
would
come
with
that
and
how
the
community
would
be
integrated
into
that
and
then
having
to
go
to
the
zoning
commission
and
hearing
the
project
in
a
whole,
more
holistic
perspective.
O
You
know
technical
way,
I
think,
what's
been
good
is
the
developers
and
echoing
a
little
bit
of
this,
is
offering
the
community
benefits
that
are
not
necessarily
financial
monetary,
it's
more
so
of
like
what
kind
of
buildings
are
we
creating
that
we
feel
like
the
community
would
benefit
from
and
the
inclusionary
of
additional
housing
and
affordable
housing
that
sometimes
put
requirements
on
some
of
these
projects
to
make
sure
that
people
are
not
displaced.
F
Can
somebody
speak
to
do
we
have
opportunities
on
your
on
your
commission
to
look
at
as
of
right
projects,
because
I
I've
I've
seen
some
as
of
right
projects.
You
know
because
they
don't
they
don't
trip
variants
and
you
don't
come
in
front
of
the
neighborhood
and
you
end
up
with
an
actually
a
worse
product.
F
M
As
of
right,
I
think
no
is
the
quick
answer,
but
I
think
it's
an
important
question
and
a
lot
of
times
matters
that
come
to
us
are
a
result
of
an
as
of
right
development
that
no
one
really
intended
to
occur.
So
the
tools,
then
that
where
we
would
get
involved,
is
if,
for
example,
someone
could
knock
down
a
historic,
victorian
and
build
a
box
as
of
right.
I
M
It
permits
it
and
appeals,
probably
couldn't
stop
it
either.
But
what
can
happen
is
we
can
amend
the
zoning
code
which
we
often
do?
You
know
the
code
is
very
complicated,
so
every
once
in
a
while,
there's
there's
scribner
errors,
or
they
pick
up
a
piece
of
land
that
it
should
be
residential
and
it
was
marked
conservation
or
vice
versa.
So
we
do
get
involved
in
some
technical
adjustments,
but
also
can
make
changes
to
the
code
to
going
forward.
Try
to
prevent
an
unintentional,
negative
type.
F
Of
yeah
yeah,
because
I
mean
sometimes
you
come
across
people
they're.
Looking
for
that,
what
can
I
do
as
of
right?
Stick
it
all
in
this
box
and
in
the
community,
ends
up
on
the
short
end
of
the
stick
with
that
one
so,
and
I
and
I
appreciate
the
comments
about
the
the
the
zoning
code
being
complicated
for
a
reason.
So
thank
you.
A
You,
council
baker,
any
other
comments.
Okay,
I
think
that's
good
from
us.
Thank
you
all
so
much
for
your
time.
Thank
you,
jeff.
We
appreciate
it
and
again
feel
free
to
stay
if
you'd
like,
but
we'll
do
the
switch
over
and
oh
thank
you
councillor
flaherty,
for
the
reminder.
A
The
last
thing
as
it
pertains
to
the
zoning
commission,
I
did
want
to
read
the
letter
from
michael
nichols
explaining
his
absence.
He
says
counselor
wu.
Thank
you
for
the
invitation
to
appear
before
the
committee
on
planning
development
and
transportation
of
the
boston
city
council.
Regarding
my
reappointment
to
the
boston
zoning
commission.
The
zoning
commission
has
been
a
terrific
opportunity
for
me
to
represent
the
interests
of
my
community
and
the
city
at
large
in
determining
the
appropriateness
of
changes
to
our
zoning
code.
I'm
honored
to
have
been
reappointed
by
mayor
walsh.
A
Unfortunately,
I'm
traveling
out
of
state
on
may
31st
and
unable
to
appear
before
the
committee
I'll
be
happy
to
come
on
an
alternate
date
or
to
submit
additional
written
testimony
regarding
my
renomination
if
you
believe
that
would
be
helpful
or
appropriate.
Thank
you
again
for
your
consideration
of
my
interest.
In
returning
to
the
boston
zoning
commission,
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
was
in
the
record
and
again,
thank
you
all
really
appreciate
your
time,
I'm
told
by
our
research
director
that
that
no
one
has
signed
up
for
public
testimony.
A
So
at
this
time
this
will
conclude
the
first
hearing
the
hearing
on
docket's
number:
zero
one:
zero
one
through
zero,
one:
zero,
three
and
zero
five
zero:
four
through
zero,
five
zero,
eight
appointments
and
reappointments
to
the
boston,
industrial
development,
finance
authority
and
the
zoning
commission.
This
hearing
is
adjourned.