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Description
Roxbury Community Meeting on Mass and Cass
Date: Wednesday, August 23, 2023
Location: Virtual
Led by: City of Boston, Boston Public Health Commission and City of Boston Community Engagement Cabinet
A
Currently,
those
six
new
sites
that
were
stood
up
with
in
collaboration
with
the
state
173
people
are
currently
residing
there.
As
many
of
you
know,
The
Roundhouse
program
is
ramping
down
currently
and
will
be
closing
at
the
end
of
this
month.
So
we
have
lost
some
units
at
the
at
the
at
the
moment
that
we
have
173
people
in
total
across
six
different
sites.
A
The
Public
Health
commission,
along
with
the
coordinated
Response
Team,
have
implemented
as
of
this
week,
24
7
proactive
overnight
Outreach,
so
we
are
covering
the
area
24
7,
both
with
Public
Safety
officers,
BPD
and
other
agencies
that
are
providing
Public,
Safety
Services,
but
also
with
Outreach
case
management.
It's
not
24
7..
A
All
of
these
efforts
together
have
helped
the
city
mitigate
honestly,
like
the
scale,
the
reach,
the
geographic
area
that
the
encampment
covers,
as
well
as
the
level
of
permanence
of
the
structure.
So
we've
gone
from
structures
that
were
pretty
much
like
makeshift,
pretty
dangerous
spaces
where
also
situations
especially
Dangerous
Ones.
You
know,
including
crimes,
were
happening
very
difficult
to
remove
without
equipment
to
now
a
smaller,
obviously,.
A
Anyway,
so
we've
mitigated
those
I
guess
the
the
vision
of
a
clear
street
with
free
transit
for
all
that
that
we
would
like-
and
we
have
seen
also
the
state
replicating
the
low
threshold
transitional
housing
model
that
the
city
pioneered
in
other
communities
such
as
Worcester
Leominster
in
Quincy.
That,
since
that's
something
that
we
welcome-
and
we
want
to
see
more
of
so
that
people
who
are
infected
by
substance
use
disorder,
can,
you
know,
engage
in
recovery
in
their
home
Community
without
needing
to
separate
from
their
supportive
Networks
and
then.
A
Lastly,
I
I
do
want
to
share
that.
Although
overdose
deaths
in
the
Commonwealth
and
in
the
city
at
large
have
gone
up
and
continue
to
go
up
in
the
last
years,
when
you
do
a
year-to-year
comparison
and
I'm,
taking
just
kind
of
the
last
two
full
years
that
we
have
data
for,
we
are
seeing
over
those
deaths
in
the
area
go
down
and
that's
not
because
over
those
events
are
not
happening.
It's
because
that
we
we
have
stuff
at
hand.
A
A
You
can
skip
this
slide.
I
I
haven't
in
case
people
want
to
see
some
you
can
skip
this
too.
People
want
to
see
some
more
of
the
statistics
that
we
have
regarding
the
low
threshold
housing
model
or
the
housing
efforts
they
are
available
saying
you
could
skip
all
the
way
to
the
next
slide.
You
can
go
to
boston.gov
masscast
and
have
a
look
at
our
data.
A
Thanks
Mr
Jones
again,
we
want
to
share
with
you
that,
although
we
have
seen
some
advancements
in
the
area,
there
are
some
serious
safety
challenges
that
are
present
and
are
concerning
a
lot
of
City
agencies.
People
on
the
ground,
like
myself,
first
of
all,
is
crowd.
Sizes
crowd
sizes
in
the
area
have
remained
constant,
we're
seeing
about
100
folks
spending
the
night
and
crowds
are
growing
to
up
to
200
people
during
the
evening
time.
A
A
So
we
are
responding
to
that
and
that's
what
this
judgment
in
the
approach
is
about
we're
trying
to
put
some
of
those
safety
measures
in
place
that
I'll
go
through
in
a
second
I
did
want
to
share.
If
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
a
couple
of
developments
that
we
put
in
place
kind
of
in
in
response
to
some
of
these
I
already
mentioned
the
overnight
Outreach
and
the
Deep
case
management
theme.
A
The
Deep
case
management
team
has
been
really
helpful
because
they're
on
the
ground
providing
one-on-one
service
to
people
who
want
to
engage
in
a
journey
towards
stabilization
and
permanent
housing,
they've
been,
if
you
go
to
the
next
slide.
They've
allowed
us
to
do
a
couple
of
pretty
important
things
that
the
Intensive
case
management
effort
has
allowed
us
to
compile
a
by
name
list
of
people
that
are
known
to
us
to
be
confirmatively
unsheltered
residing
nightly
in
this
in
the
encampment
and
actively
asking
us
for
support
our.
A
A
The
majority
of
folks
present
in
the
encampment
do
not
reside
there.
They're
not
sleeping
there
they're
in
a
way
again
there
to
participate
in
other
activities
and
have
a
show
they
are
staying
in
shelter
or
they
have
housing
elsewhere.
Sometimes
housing
that's
been
provided
by
us,
and
so
we
we
do
conclude
that
the
reduction
in
the
unsheltered
homelessness
in
the
area
that
has
not
necessarily
resulted
in
a
reduction
of
crowding
and
congregating.
A
So
the
type
of
solution
we're
trying
to
put
in
place
leaves
the
housing
intervention
in
place
and
again
continues
to
call
for
additional
units
elsewhere
in
the
State.
But
again
now
it's
time
to
Target
the
the
groups
of
people
that
aren't
necessarily
in
need
of
those
services,
but
still
congregating
in
the
area
for
other
purposes,
you
can
go,
keep
going
again
again.
You
could
see
this
in
our
website.
A
The
city
Only
started
counting
crowd
size
back
in
April
22,
but
you
can
see
kind
of
the
seasonality
and
how
it
develops
how
the
crowding
is
still
an
issue.
The
blue
line
is
the
daytime
6
PM
numbers.
The
white
line
is
the
5
a.m,
numbers
which
we
consider
to
be
closer
to
the
over
the
the
closer
to
the
number
of
unsheltered
stages.
If
they're
actually
spending
the
night.
A
While
we
take
action
on
on
closing
the
street
all
together,
we
hope
that
we
may
mitigate
the
displacement.
That's
going
into
the
neighborhoods
if
we
end
up
closing
the
street,
so
I
now
want
to
describe
to
you
what
what
we're
actually
trying
to
do.
If
you
go
to
the
next
slide
and
there's
I'll
say:
there's
three
and
a
half
components
to
what
we're
hoping
to
do
in
the
in
the
coming
weeks.
A
Yeah
in
the
coming
weeks,
first
and
foremost,
I'll.
Let
Deputy
Harris
expand
on
this
point.
But
one
thing
we
have
heard
consistently
from
police
officers
in
the
area
is
that
the
challenges
that
the
10th
tarps,
Mega,
tarps
and
other
structures
that
are
in
place
on
the
street
make
it
very
difficult
for
them
to
conduct
proper
law
enforcement
because
they're
blocking
visibility
in
essence.
A
A
I
guess
the
next
point
would
be
ones
those
two
components
are
in
place.
The
hope
is
that
the
city,
through
the
leadership
of
Boston
police,
will
be
able
to
close
the
street
Atkinson
Street
I'm
speaking
about-
and
you
know,
close
the
encampment
altogether
make
sure
that
everyone
that
has
needs
a
place
to
sleep
will
be
provided
one.
As
you
know,
our
shelters
never
turn
anyone
away,
but
we
are
making
a
big
effort
to
expand
capacity.
Make
sure
everyone
has
an
offer
of
a
safe
place
to
sleep
in
in.
A
We
do
expect
a
level
of
this
version
and
I'm
sure
there
is
a
concern
about
that
issue
with
in
this
neighborhood,
because
we
are
aware
that
some
other
hot
spots
exist
such
as
Ziegler
Street,
Nubian,
Square,
Blair
law,
building
Etc.
We
do
visit
those
every
day,
but
the
current
Outreach
teams
that
are
stationed
on
Atkinson
Street
would
be
reformatted
so
that
they
would
have
added
Mobility.
A
A
So
again,
that's
I
I
did
want
to
just
kind
of
give
you
the
broad
Strokes
of
the
approach.
If
you
do
have
questions
about
the
added
shelter
capacity
or
the
safe
sleeping
area,
Dr
ojikutu
can
take
the
lead
on
that.
If
you
have
questions
about
the
operational
piece
on
how
the
street
would
close
and
what
kind
of
BPD
presence
will
be
available,
I'm
hoping
Deputy
Harris
can
answer
those
questions
and
myself
as
well.
A
We
we
do
want
to
hear
from
you
and
learn
if
there's
feedback
that
we
need
to
be
taking
into
account.
And
again
we
have
been
hearing
a
lot
of
feedback
from
neighborhoods
I.
Don't
want
people
to
think
that's
going
in
a
black
box.
It's
most
certainly
not
I
am
relaying
it,
and
Brianna
will
do
so
as
well
and
others
direct
directly
to
Mayor.
Will
the
takeaways
from
all
of
these
Community
meetings
so
feel
free
to
feel
free
to
make
your
voice
heard?
That's
that's
what
we're
here
for.
C
Thank
you
so
much
Tanya
and
the
team.
So
we're
definitely
here
to
make
sure
we're
answering
the
questions
that
Antonia
referenced,
but
we
want
to
give
opportunities
for
elected
elected
officials
to
speak,
I'm
going
to
go
to
who
I've,
who
I
see
in
my
screen.
First
I
want
to
definitely
give
council
president
Ed
Flynn
some
time
to
say
hello
to
this
community.
D
D
What
I
want
to
focus
on
briefly
is
the
quality
of
life
for
residents
in
the
business
Community
impacted
by.
What's
going
on
in
mass
and
Chaos
the
neighborhoods
I
mentioned
Roxbury
South
Boston,
the
South
End
Rochester
are
experiencing
significant
quality
of
life
issues,
Public
Safety
challenges
and
concerns
I'm
asking
for
enhanced
basic
city
services,
Neighborhood
Services
in
those
four
particular
neighborhoods.
Until
we
get
a
hold
of
this
situation,
we
need
to
increase
police
presence,
Public
Works
clean
up
and
that's
a
critical
part
of
what
is
going
on.
D
C
E
Oh
okay,
hey
chief,
thank
you
so
much!
Thank
you!
Everyone,
Administration
and
Chief
Moore
council.
President
Flynn
I
really
appreciated
your
remarks.
There
kind
of
Del,
Rio
and
Dr
jakutu,
and
some
others
from
Administration
and
departments
that
I
see
here.
Thank
you
to
my
constituents
who's
taken
time
out
of
their
lives
to
participate
to
join
such
an
important
conversation,
of
course,
I'm
here
and
with
a
deep
sense
of
appreciation
and
gratitude.
E
As,
We
Gather,
to
try
to
address
some
of
the
most
pressing
issues
facing
our
community
opioid
crisis,
of
course,
as
it
impacts
District
Seven,
especially
mass
and
Cass,
which
is
obviously
mostly
in
District
Seven
and
as
I
mentioned
I
as
I
appreciate
this
meeting
being
put
together
from
the
administration.
So
organize
such
a
crucial
conversation.
E
However,
just
a
friendly
reminder
that
the
constituents
of
district
7
have
adamantly
requested
for
these
meetings
to
be
in
person
once
again
and
I
stand
here
with
you
with
my
constituents
who
I
hope
to
engage
in
communication
and
encourage
you
to
express
your
experiences,
your
expertise,
professional
and
personal
I'm,
listening
and
hopefully,
throughout
this
meeting
again
encourage
to
share
any
of
your
of
your
thoughts,
multifaceted
challenges,
I'm
sure
an
approaches
to
tackling
some
of
this.
In
order
for
us
to
be
effective.
Hopefully
we
can
approach
this
meeting
with
empathy
and
compassion.
E
This
is
a
very
difficult
field
to
work
in
I
worked
with
dual
diagnosis,
clients
or
participants
on
different
levels,
both
mental
health
and
with
addiction
or
needle
exchange
programs
for
over
a
decade,
and
it
takes
a
certain
level
of
compassion
and
patience
and
love
to
to
be
able
to
do
the
work.
So
I
think
every
single
one
of
you
who
is
out
there
either
cleaning
or
putting
together
programs
to
divert
this
issue
or
just
doing
walks.
E
Bob
Barney,
who
I
know,
is
here:
Steve
Fox
and
many
others,
Desi
Domingos
and
Jahida
many
people
in
and
that
have
been
doing
this
work.
And
now
we've
come
to
a
point
where
we
are
trying
to
mitigate
mitigate
some
certain
certain
Solutions,
which
sounds
like
to
decentralize
some
of
this
population
into
different
beds
or
Sheltering,
whether
we're
calling
it
safe,
sleeping
or
not.
It's
nonetheless
still
shelter
and
I
think
the
public
deserves
transparency.
So
I
look
forward
to
our
conversation
tonight.
E
F
Hi
everybody
Murphy's
Law
is
just
taking
a
bite
of
my
my
dinner,
so
I
I'd
like
to
really
thank
everyone
for
being
here.
I
also
want
to
thank
Dr
ojukutu
for
and
her
team
Tanya,
Del,
Rio
and
Brian
for
their
amazing
work.
I
think
it's
you
know
it's
not
an
easy
profession.
I
see
it
I
see
their
work
every
day
and
so
just
want
to
applaud
them
for
all
their
their
efforts
and
I.
Think
we
have
a
great
neighborhood
right.
F
Look
at
the
number
of
people
online
right
now
who
really
care
about
the
neighborhood
Who
want
the
right,
Solutions,
and
so
you
know,
I
expressed
my
opinion
about
one
particular
aspect
of
the
solution
last
evening,
and
you
know
I
guess.
The
part
that
didn't
get
quoted
is
my
appreciation
for
all
the
work.
That's
being
done
so
I
look
forward
to
to
hearing
the
dialogue
tonight.
F
I
won't
want
to
take
too
much
of
the
time,
but
I
did
want
to
say
that
District
9
is
a
little
complex
because
it
does
include
most
of
the
South
End
a
little
bit
of
Back
Bay,
but
a
lot
of
Roxbury
and
so
I
definitely
feel
very
close
to
Roxbury
has
spent
some
time
on
on
serving
on
concert,
Fernandez,
Anderson's,
advisory,
Council
and
so
I.
Definitely
I,
definitely
think
in
terms
of
District,
Suffolk,
District,
nine
and
so
I'm
happy
to
be
here.
C
C
We
have
everyone
here
from
the
team
that
introduce
themselves
Deputy
superintendent,
Pam,
Harris,
Tanya
Del
Rio
from
the
coordinated
Response
Team
Dr
ojikutu
from
executive
executive
director
of
the
Boston
Public
Health
commission
to
support
with
answering
questions
we'll
be
Fielding.
Some
questions
from
the
chat.
If
you
do
want
to
say
a
question
out
loud,
please
use
the
raise
your
hand
function
and
we
will
unmute
you.
C
You
have
one
minute
to
give
a
comment,
slash
question:
if
you
want
to
do
that,
so
I
allow
people
to
give
gives
people
space
to
raise
their
hand
and
I
first
want
to
go
to
a
question
in
the
chat
that
I've
seen
from
Evelyn
and
then
we'll
go
into
the
people
that
are
raising
their
hand.
So
what,
if
anything,
are
we
doing
to
prevent
them,
prevent
them
from
shifting
to
the
other
streets
nearby
as
they
have
in
the
past?
Can
we
speak
to
that?
That
might
be
a
mixed
question?
Yeah.
A
I
guess
I
can
start
and
if
besola
or
Deputy
Harris
want
to
add
we're
currently
discussing
whether
there
will
be
again
additional
reformatted
Outreach
teams
that
will
be
moving
around
in
expanded
catchment
areas.
Now
we
don't
know
if
they're
going
to
be
like
physically
joined,
as
in
there
will
be
a
BPD
officer,
along
with
Outreach
workers
going
around
the
same
route
together
or
whether
they'll
be
staggered
by
which
I
mean
there
would
be
Outreach
workers
as
a
first
touch,
Point
followed
closely,
maybe
10
or
5
minutes
later
by
police
officers.
A
Kind
of
supporting
that
supporting
that
engagement,
that's
something
that's
currently
being
discussed
about
their
the
plan
is
for
there
to
be
joint
Outreach
in
whatever
format
and
Extended
catchment
area.
So
again,
I
don't
know
if
Bissell
our
Deputy
Harry
Harris
have
more
information
or
want
to
add
to
that.
A
I
did
want
to
just
share
real
quick
that
there
is
a
technical
difference
between
a
shelter
and
the
type
of
transitional
beds
that
we
are
trying
to
add.
A
shelter
does
have
certain
requirements
like
again,
it's
like
a
structure
where
there
is
24
7
service,
certain
infrastructure,
like
showers,
meals,
Etc.
G
Thank
you,
Brianna,
sorry
about
that.
So
BPD
has
has
take
notice
of
our
concern
for
displacement
as
we
as
we
make.
These
efforts
and
part
of
our
plan
is
to
focus
on
the
surrounding
neighborhoods
and
streets,
where
they're
likely
take
cover
too
we're
also
focusing
on
playgrounds
and
in
areas
where
the
children
may
you
know,
schools,
and
so
we
are
we
are
we.
Our
plan
does
consist
of
actions
to
address
displacement
in
the
surrounding
neighborhoods
and
those
neighborhoods
have
been
identified.
G
And
we
encourage
people
to
report
them
as
if
they
do
appear
in
neighborhoods
that
you
know
we
are.
We
know
about
Nubian
Square,
Ziegler,
Street,
Clifford
Park.
You
know
Jim
rice
fields,
some
of
the
neighborhoods
and
the
surrounding
streets
in
the
South
End.
So
we
are.
We
are
focused
on
that
and
that's
a
priority
of
ours.
A
I
just
wanted
to
add
one
thing
there,
because
we
do
really
rely
on
citizen
input
for
putting
together
a
quick
and
like
a
prompt
and
appropriate
response
to
encampments
that
pop
up
city-wide.
That
is
something
our
team
takes
care
of
every
day.
We're
responding
to
dozens
of
of
these
requests
a
week
we
I
will
share
in
the
chat
a
link
to
information
about
our
encampment
protocol.
That
is
the
protocol
that
we
do
follow
for
addressing
encampments.
A
We
do
rely
on
you
elect
officials,
citizens.
Obviously
Outreach
workers
are
proactively
looking
for
these
to
to
put
together
the
response,
and
we
have
a
helpful
infographic
that
helps
people.
It
provides
guidance
on
knowing
when
to
call
9-1-1
versus
when
to
call
3-1-1.
That
is
something
that
we
are
often
asked
for
shorthand.
A
You
should
be
or
trespassing
if
there's
an
encampment
on
your
private
property
or
someone's
private
property,
the
appropriate
call
to
make
is
9-1-1
when
you're
seeing
something
that's,
not
necessarily
an
emergency,
but
you
want
the
city
to
address
such
as
there's
a
tent
in
a
park,
and
people
are
living
in
a
place
not
meant
for
human
habitation
or
some
such
issue.
You
see
someone
that's
on
unsheltered
and
may
need
made.
You
want
an
Outreach
worker
to
come
by
and
offer
of
our
services.
A
B
There
is
a
law
enforcement
component,
the
I
it's
just.
We
were
we're
just
concerned
that
that
just
doesn't
seem
to
be
there.
There
has
been
some
sort
of
apparent
frustration
with
law
enforcement
being
able
to
work
with
folks
who
are
coming
out
coming
from
outside
descending
on
this
area
and
dealing
in
death
on
these
Souls
that
we
love
and
and
capitalizing
monetizing
their
their
addiction
and
I.
B
C
G
Thank
you,
Brianna.
Thank
you.
So
as
far
as
bpd's
role
in
this
initiative,
we
are
not
looking
to
arrest
our
way.
We're
not.
We
are
working
in
concert
with
other
other
City
agencies,
we're
not
here.
We
recognize
that
they
are
in
need
of
services
and
they
are
in
need
of
shelter
and
as
far
as
the
officers
and
and
what
their
motive
is
and
what
their
purpose
is.
G
It's
been
it's
a
challenging
space
for
officers
to
be
in
and
we're
down
there
24
7.,
it's
taxing
on
our
department,
you
know
we've
already
short
staffed
and
it's
about
it
can
be
a
violent
climate
in
that
area
and
officers
get
exhausted,
they're
mentally
exhausted.
We
are
equally
concerned
about
their
well-being
and
what
they've
had
to
witness
themselves.
C
A
I
can
take
that
it
was
actually
it's
actually
a
good
time
to
talk
about
it.
We
had
a
group
of
providers
visit
the
island
today,
along
with
mayor,
Wu
and
members
of
the
press,
and
it
was
exciting
to
see
because
those
providers,
a
few
of
them,
used
to
work
in
the
island
when
it
was
operational
and
now
are
excited
to
be
a
part
of
envisioning
what
the
services
could
look
like
now
in
the
future.
Some
providers
are
you
into
the
effort
and
again
bringing
kind
of
fresh
blood
and
first
thinking
into
it.
A
The
goal
that
the
city
has
is
to
put
to
to
get
the
island
back
in
place
and
providing
Services
as
fast
as
possible
on
the
fastest
timeline
possible.
However,
one
of
the
providers
I
think
a
very
accurate,
like
very
I
want
to
say:
I,
don't
know,
I
don't
have
the
word,
but
like
was
right
in
pointing
out
that
this
is
a
generational
opportunity
and
we
have
to
get
it
right,
because
these
these
opportunities
don't
come
along
every
day.
A
So
there
is
going
to
be
a
lot
of
thought,
partnership
and
hard
work
to
make
sure
we
can
put
together
the
most
impactful
state-of-the-art
facility
out
there
right
now.
There
is
work
on
their
way
to
restore
the
buildings
that
are
severely
damaged
after
some
years
of
not
being
I,
don't
know
like
fully
tended
to
so
there
is
a
38
million
dollar
project
on
their
way
to
protect
the
buildings
from
further
weather
damage
and
get
them
in
get
them
into
a
place
where
they
can
be
ready
for
proper
restoration,
there's.
A
Also
the
Bridge
Project.
As
you
know,
the
city
recently
secured
the
chapter
91
license,
which
is
what
we
consider
to
be.
It
was
kind
of
the
hard
the
hardest
part
of
the
permitting
process,
so
we're
we've
been
able
now
to
focus
on
not
no
longer
permitting
bug
construction,
since
we're
close
to
the
end
of
the
permitting
all
that
to
say
the
likely
timeline
we
are
looking
at
is
around
four
years
for
project
completion
and,
like
you
know,
ribbon
cutting
and
opening
for
services.
A
C
H
H
He
just
you
know
really
just
spoke
about
the
police
presence
down
there
and
just
me
as
being
an
individual
that
has
hosted
the
first
winning
against
addiction
walk
there.
I
did
the
first
one
2021
the
second
one
last
year
and
we're
on
our
third
year
with
celebrating
this
year
and
I
have
personally
witnessed.
H
You
know
what
are
the
efforts
or
if
there
are
any
plans,
I
know
that
the
the
chief
spoke
on
the
police
being
exhausted
and
mentally
and
emotionally
affected
by
this
as
well,
but
at
the
same
time,
I
feel
like
those
are
the
trained
individuals
that
you
know
that
this
is
their
job.
And
so
is
there
any
plan
on
in
the
meeting
in
between
time.
While
we
are
working
on
developing,
you
know,
Long
Island
again,
is
there
any
plans
on
just?
C
Question
so
basically,
it's
only
to
summarize
the
question
it
sounded
like
you
know,
what
is
what
is
happening
on
the
ground.
I
know
that
in
the
presentation
we
laid
out
some
that
you
know
Tanya's
response
team,
as
well
as
the
different
state
providers
that
are
partnered
with
the
city
in
Boston.
Public
Health
commission
have
been
down
there
day
in
and
day
out,
but
do
you
want
to
speak
to
that?
A
little
bit
more
Tanya,
probably.
C
A
Yeah,
so
I
did
mention
that
some
agencies
pulled
out
temporarily
out
of
Street
Outreach
I
do
want
to
make
clear,
because
we
do
hear
from
friends
and
family
members
of
loved
ones
who
may
be
down
there.
Some
concern
about
that.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
people
understand
that
City
Boston
Public
Health,
commission
Outreach
workers
are
still
there
providing
harm
reduction.
Services
Boston
police
is
out
there.
24
7.
mayor's
office
is
out
there
as
well.
A
So
it's
not
it's
not
that
there
is
no
Outreach
being
provided
currently
Boston
healthcare
for
the
homeless
is
providing
Clinical
Services
out
of
the
needle
exchange
program
on
70
74
for
Albany,
Street
and
Elliott
case
management.
Team
has
actually
returned
to
Street
Outreach,
so
they
are
continuing
to
provide
case
management.
You
can
go
to
our
dashboard
to
track
the
crowd
size
numbers,
but
what
we
are
seeing
there
every
day
is
between
100
and
120.
People
in
the
6
a.m
count
present
around
50
structures.
A
We
have
been
counting
in
the
last
weeks
and
then
during
the
evening
time
I
would
say
the
peak
size
of
the
crowd
might
be
6
p.m,
especially
on
weekends.
That's
when
we
reach
kind
of
the
peak
size,
you
would
have
up
to
200
individuals
being
counted
out
there
and
as
I
shared
there,
there
is
a
concern
for
a
number
of
incidents
that
are
happening
as
far
as
our
deal
is
being
arrested,
yeah
I'll,
let
that
beauty
have
his
answer
to
that.
A
We've
seen
I've
seen
this
with
my
own
eyes
a
hundred
dollars
bail
for
you
know
possessing
one
or
more
Firearms,
let
alone
for
lower
level.
Offenses
they're
simply
being
returned
faster
than
the
officers
can
complete
the
paperwork.
Therefore,
the
Boston
Police
Department
did
initiate
conversations
with
the
court
system
with
the
goal
of
raising
awareness
of
this
situation
for
the
judges,
including
bringing
judges
out
on
the
street
on
the
ground.
G
Thank
you
Tanya.
So,
as
we
all
know,
the
violence
in
that
area
is
not
only
on
upswing,
but
it's
gotten
more
and
more
violent
and
more
egregious,
and
we
are
doing
all
that
we
can,
with
respect
of
presence
and
someone
I
believe
Brianna
did
mention
about
the
tarps
being
a
barrier
for
us
as
far
as
enforcement
and
visibility.
I
can
tell
you
that
our
drug
unit
is
out
there.
24
7,
our
human
trafficking
unit
is
out
there.
24
7.,
our
street
Outreach
unit
is
out
there
24
7..
G
You
know
we
understand
it
being
sympathetic,
but
we
have
faced
the
revolving
door
with
offenders
and
you
know
the
crimes
right
change
from
minor
possession
to
Firearms
assaults
sexual
assaults,
but
it
is
a
revolving
door.
So
we
have
Boston.
Police
has
initiated
a
conversation
with
the
courts
to
increase
awareness
and
get
them
on
board.
G
With
this
initiative,
one
of
the
judges
most
recently
took
a
walk
herself
on
Atkinson
Street,
and
we
hope
that
she
will
be
a
partner
with
us
in
getting
the
rest
of
the
judges
and
the
officials
on
board
to
use
the
courts
as
a
way
to
Route
them
to
Services
as
well
like
I
stated
before.
This
is
not
something
we
do
have
violent
actors
and
Bad
actors
down
there.
We
do
intend
to
take
the
ones
that
have
these
warrants
and
take
them
into
custody.
G
A
Thank
you,
superintendent
and,
if
I
may
add
just
on
the
mental
health
side,
there
is
a
mechanism
that
some
people
hear
many
I'm
guessing
I
are
familiar
with
the
section
12
or
the
section
35
process.
There
is
a
perception
that
we're
not
executing
on
some
of
those
I
just
want
to
say
that
again,
with
my
own
eyes,
I've
seen
those
section,
12s
and
35s
be
executed.
A
A
If
there's
immediate
danger,
those
are
being
executed.
All
the
time
officers
will
then
bring
people
to
the
hospital,
but
as
soon
as
to
the
hospitals,
I
guess
decision
making
process.
As
soon
as
the
person
has
reduced
their
level
of
acute
risk,
they
can
be
released
back
out
on
the
street,
and
that
is
a
different
kind
of
rebuilding
door
that
we
do
see
happening
as
well
on
the
street.
So
again,
it
is
a
multi-disciplinary
process
where
many
institutions
come
into
play.
A
C
I
And
I'll
just
be
brief,
just
happy
to
be
on
and
I
want
to
make
sure
I
hear
from
the
residents
and
everyone
else
who
is
on
I
was
you
probably
all
know,
I'm
the
at
large
city,
councilor
I've
been
very
vocal
and
supportive
of
what's
going
on
down
at
Madison,
Cass
happy
to
be
listening
to
the
residents
and
the
business
owners
and
those
most
affected
from
you
know.
What's
going
on
down
here,
wanted
to
just
touch
on
a
few
things,
I
heard.
I
So
I
think
that's
where
we
for
me.
It
seems
like
that's
where
we
really
have
to
step
up
and
make
sure
that
we
are
not.
You
know
blaming
the
court,
so
the
courts,
blaming
the
police
and
I
know
that
section
35s
was.
There
was
a
lot
of
pushback
from
you
know,
a
lot
of
people
that
that's
not
the
route
we
should
go
so
I
think
we
really
have
to.
You
know,
put
our
heads
together
here
and
figure
out.
How
are
we
going
to
keep
those
suffering
give
them
the
services
we
need?
I
We
know
that
there's
so
many
agencies
that
are
on
this
call
now
public
health,
everyone
that
are
there
to
give
supports
to
those
who
need
and
are
ready
for
it,
but
we
also
definitely
am
there
several
times
a
week.
There's
lots
of
illegal
activity
in
many
people,
business
owners,
residents
and
those
down.
I
There
feel
as
though
nothing's
really
happening
to
those
who
are
breaking
the
law,
and
if
we
were
able
to
arrest
and
get
some
of
those
you
know,
Bad
actors
out
of
that
area,
I
think
would
be
in
a
better
situation
and
just
one
other
thing.
Thank
you
Brianna
for
letting
me
jump
in,
but
also
about.
If
we're
closing
down
the
street
I
just
want
to
be
clear
that
many
residents
from
Andrew
Square
Nubian
square
has
been
mentioned,
but
there's
already
been
a
big
spread
of
activity
across
all
different
neighborhoods.
I
I
C
J
J
J
You
know
what
we
see
here
has
been
an
ongoing
issue
for
for
years
now,
and
you
know
one
of
the
approaches
that
I
I've
seen
you
know
and
I'm
speaking
as
a
concerned
resident,
was
that
the
city
started
was
to
supply
needles
for
individuals,
and
you
know
I,
don't
mind
you
know
keeping
everybody
safe
while
they're,
you
know
doing
what
they're
doing
is
fine,
but
the
issue
that
I
run
into
is
that
these
needles
are
going
into
our
streets.
The
cats
and
dogs
are
licking
these
things.
J
Our
kids
are
picking
these
things
up.
This
is
a
public
safety
issue
and
one
thing
that
I
feel
like
we
need
to
stop
doing
is
supplying
these
needles.
If
they're
not
going
in
for
treatment,
if
they're
not
going
in
for
treatment
and
following
up
for
treatment,
why
are
we
supplying
needles?
This
is
why
we
have
the
problem
that
we
have.
J
K
Comments:
Juwan
I'm,
a
you,
know,
physician,
an
infectious
disease
doctor
and
just
to
clarify
for
everybody.
The
issue
of
harm
reduction,
so
harm
reduction
is
actually
a
wide
array
of
tools
that
we
use.
It's
not
just
needle
exchange
or
syringe
exchange.
It
actually
includes
you
know:
risk
reduction,
counseling,
it
includes
case
management.
It
includes
drug
checking
to
make
sure
that
whatever
you're
taking
isn't
laced
with
other
things
includes
pre-exposure
prophylaxis
to
prevent
HIV
transmission,
so
I
just
want
us
to
understand.
K
First
of
all,
this
idea
of
harm
reduction
is
really
important
before
I
say
that
there's
a
wide
deep
many
years
in
duration,
evidence
base
that
harm
reduction
actually
increases
the
number
of
people
who
enter
services.
So
it
actually
increases
number
of
people
who
go
to
detox.
It
increases
on
people
who
engage,
increases,
number
people
who
end
up
in
recovery,
because
this
is
how
we
in
this
is
how
we
bring
people
into
the
fold.
This
is
how
we
engage
people
by
meeting
them
where
they're
at
and
understand.
K
K
Needle
pickup
and
I
know
that's
something
that
Tanya
is
focused
in
on
as
well
as
our
teams
and
we
we
are
doing
the
best
that
we
can
but
I
do
understand
your
concerns,
and
certainly
we
will
continue
to
work
as
best
as
we
can
to
ensure
that
there
are.
There
are
not
needles
out
in
the
you
know,
out
in
the
streets
and
in
the
Parks.
K
L
There
we
go
Brianna
before
my
time
begins.
Just
a
process
comment,
one
minute
for
participants
to
be
able
to
get
their
question
in
and
then
five
minutes
of
response
doesn't
really
create
a
dialogue.
So
could
you
reconsider
the
amount
of
time
that
people
have
for
questions
just
a
that's
just
a
request,
because
it
really
doesn't
afford
a
dialogue
here
within.
C
L
What
I
wanted
to
say
was
I
wanted
to
remind
everybody
that
the
whole
idea
of
the
Long
Island
recovery
campus
came
from
this
community
came
from
a
combination
of
Roxbury
New
Market
in
the
South
End,
getting
together
and
in
2017
proposed
the
very
first
Municipal
Recovery
Center
at
Long
Island,
that's
where
it
came
from
from
the
community.
We
really
are
very
familiar
with.
L
What's
on
the
ground,
what's
going
on
at
Madison
cast,
what's
going
on
at
Atkinson,
we
presented
a
plan
for
recover
Boston
that
is
comprehensive,
that
is
designed
to
offer
both
housing
and
treatment.
The
plan,
as
it
has
been
presented
thus
far
does
is,
is
the
same
approach
that
we
have
seen
used
for
the
past
10
years
and
the
problem
with
it
is
that
it's
not
comprehensive.
It
doesn't
address
the
need
and
before
you
know
it
we're
going
to
be
right
back
where
we
started
just
like
we
were
two
years
ago.
L
C
M
Good
evening,
everybody
I
just
want
to
say
my
name's
for
silver,
flint
and
I.
I,
really
believe
that
we
we
should
look
at
this.
The
city
should
look
at
all
this
construction,
that's
going
on
and
there
are
empty
buildings
standing.
Why
couldn't
the
city
and
public
health
get
together
and
come
up
with
some
wrap-around
services
and
that
they
can
put
into
some
of
these
buildings?
It's
ridiculous,
we'll
be
in
gentrified
out
of
the
city.
We
can't
get
any
jobs
in
the
city.
M
All
this
construction
is
going
on
and
we're
not
part
of
any
of
it,
and
it
really
really
needs
to
stop.
I
I
mean
I,
just
I
I,
don't
I,
don't
understand
why
it
continues
to
happen
and
it
Contin.
We
continue
not
to
get
the
services
that
we
need.
It's
a
shame
and
a
disgrace.
What's
going
on
down
there
in
Madison
cast
and
the
problem
and
the
issue
is
it's
been
there?
This
ain't,
something
new!
M
This
has
been
going
on
mastercast
for
years,
and
so
I
I
would
have
thought
that
our
our
elected
officials,
especially
those
that
had
been
in
city
government
more
than
10
years,
that
they
would
have
to
come
up
with
something
to
be
able
to
contain
this.
This
is
a
sin,
and
this
is
a
shame,
and
this
is
a
disgrace.
N
Hi,
can
you
hear
me
yep?
Yes,
oh
hi,
Brianna,
thanks
for
taking
my
question.
Actually
I
have
a
comment.
So
I
live
approximately
four
blocks
from
this
proposed
safe
sleeping
area.
But
my
comment
is
a
little
bit
broader
I.
Think
for
for
me.
Where
I
live,
you
know,
we've
seen
a
significant
uptick
in
activity
along
the
Southwest
Corridor
Park,
which
is
about
a
block
from
me
and
I.
N
Think
as
city
council
president
Ed
Flynn
started
out,
we've
seen
a
definitely
a
decline
in
quality
of
life
issues
which
includes
you
know:
public
urination,
defecation
people
having
sex
masturbation
a
67
year
old
woman
being
you
know,
pushed
to
the
ground,
her
clothes
being
taken
off.
So
we've
seen
a
lot
of
things
that
I
think
are
outside
of
Tanya,
Del,
Rio's
kind
of
catchment
area
for
metrics.
N
So
I
guess
my
point
is
we're
seeing
such
a
strong
uptick
on
the
Southwest,
Quarter,
Park
and
surrounding
streets
that
you
know
putting
a
shelter
closer
to
us
is
just
going
to
make
the
situation
much
worse,
not
to
talk
about
the
school.
That's
two
and
a
half
blocks
away.
So
I
guess.
My
question
is
just
very
basic:
what
other
locations
have
you
looked
at,
that
you
can
put
the
shelter?
N
C
K
K
It's
really
important
that
we
find
spaces
for
people
and
one
of
the
ways
that
we're
doing
that
is
looking
around
the
city
and
outside
of
the
city
for
shelter
space
for
individuals,
so
that,
as
we
get
to
you,
know,
Colder
Weather.
You
know
we
have
people
who
really
truly
are
chronically
unhoused
and
they
happen
to
be
using
tents
and
tarps
for
living
in
that
Atkinson
in
the
in
the
Atkinson
area,
as
well.
As
you
know,
other
places
in
the
in
the
city.
So
that's
number
one
number
two,
we
explored.
K
You
know
the
options
for
utilizing
other
indoor
spaces
that
are
owned
and
operated
by
the
Boston
Public
Health
commission
by
the
city,
essentially
for
the
purposes
of
transitional
sleeping
spaces,
as
we
engage
in
this
enhanced
security
process
and
what
we
came
to
was
that
you
know
the
the
space
that
had
the
room
that
we
needed.
For
you
know:
30
individuals,
plus
some
clinical
operation
space
is
the
space.
That's
on
Mass,
Ave
and
I
expressed
this
to
a
number
of
you.
K
H
O
Thank
you
for
putting
the
meeting
together.
I'm
a
27-year
resident
of
Worcester
Square
I
know
bphd
has
been
working
hard
for
many
years,
but
the
problem
continues
to
get
worse.
Runoff
from
Atkinson
recently
made
four-point
Channel
water,
unsafe
and
providers
refused
to
serve
because
of
the
violence.
It's
failed.
O
It's
not
working
because
you're
solving
the
wrong
problem,
you're,
making
it
easy
to
stay
addicted
when
you
should
be
making
it
easy
and
comfortable
to
get
treatment.
Just
like
Lisbon
did
at
scale.
After
two
decades
they
experienced
a
90
reduction
in
od
rates.
With
that
I
have
two
questions:
will
you
Embrace
recover
Boston
today
and
work
with
Steve
and
Sue
to
make
it
happen?
And
if
not,
why
not?
The
second
question
is
around
enforcement.
O
What
will
the
police
do
when
they
see
open
air
drug
use,
drug
dealing
on
the
street,
both
of
which
are
crimes,
and
what
will
they
do
with
the
you
know,
the
loitering
people
aren't
gonna,
they
may
not
have
tents,
but
they'll
still
be
out
there
all
the
time.
What
are
they
going
to
do
about
the
lawyer,
which
may
or
may
not
be
a
crime.
A
A
That's
what
I
can
say
I've,
obviously
here
to
speak
to
the
the
plan
that
we're
working
on
and
I'll.
Let
the
mayor
speak
to
recover
Boston
once
she
has
a
chance
to
review
it
and
say
more
I.
Understand,
though,
that
there
is
a
component
there
that
depends
on
whether
the
state's
MBT
owned
specifically
land
is
able
to.
A
G
I,
thank
you
Tanya.
Thank
you
for
that
question,
sir.
So
as
far
as
Boston
police
you've
raised
some
very
very
important
concerns
and
those
are
also
our
concerns
as
far
as
the
open-air
drug
usage
similar
to,
what's
being
you
know
what
we
witnessed
now,
what
we
would
like
to
do
is
connect.
You
know
we'll
we're
going
to
have
teams
out
there
24
7..
We
have
a
very
specific,
comprehensive
operational
plan
to
coincide
with
this
initiative.
G
So
our
goal
is
to
first
try
and
connect
that
that
person
to
services
and
hand
off
we're
going
to
have
the
clinicians
and
Recovery
Services
out
there
with
us.
So
we're
not
trying
to
arrest
people.
We
want
them
to
get
help.
We
want
to
find
them
shelter.
We
will
not
allow
anybody,
we
encounter
that's
using
drugs.
G
We
don't
want
to
overburden
the
court
with
the
with
with
users
that
you
know
low
low
level
drug
offense
says
where
they
could
more
benefit
from
services,
so
our
enforcement
really
we're
going
to
be
focusing
as
far
as
taking
into
custody
and
arrest,
focusing
on
the
violators,
the
by
the
the
Bad
actors,
the
people
with
the
bad.
You
know
the
the
warrants
and
things
like
that.
G
So
that's
what
our
intent
is
and
once
the
ordinance
does
come
into
place,
we
intend
to
enforce
that
ordinance
with
respect
to
structures,
intents
and
tarps
and
so
on,
and
we're
going
to
be
mindful,
as
I
said
before,
we
have
been
a
Vocal
Point
as
far
as
the
neighborhoods
and
where
we
expect
them
to
relocate
and
be
displaced
to.
So
we
are
mindful
of
that.
P
P
But
the
enforcement
piece
is
not
the
answer
and
it
is
not
working
well
and
I.
Don't
want
to
put
all
that
criticism
on
the
police
department
that
isn't
really
no
criticism.
I.
Just
think
that
it's
it
in
my
opinion,
humble
opinion
served
in
the
city
for
25
plus
years,
I.
Think
it's
the
wrong
approach,
and
so
I
say
that
to
say
we
have
taken
our
own
approaches
to
protect
our
population,
but
part
of
that
is
engagement
and
then
I
think
the
other
part
of
that
is
in
these
spaces.
P
C
P
Thank
you.
It's
to
the
deputy
Deputy
I
sit
on,
Jay,
goes
board
of
directors,
and
so
obviously
I
sit
and
hear
and
understand,
but
I
think
when
we're
sitting
in
front
of
the
public,
how
important
it
is.
Can
you
share
with
us
what
is
and
I
get
it
that
the
police
officers
have,
as
they
have
done
in
the
past,
have
tried
to
fill
in
enrolls
and
work
with
the
partners?
But
what
is
the
limitations
that
the
police
can
and
cannot
do
in
these
particular
roles?
P
That
would
be
helpful
and
then
my
second
question
would
be
is
to
something
that
the
good
doctor
said
that
this
is
a
state
issue
and
has
the
city,
city,
council
and
others
and
I
don't
know
procedurally,
but
this
sounds
like
the
state
of
an
emergency,
because
you
have
to
break
this
up
in
such
a
way.
Folks,
in
here.
P
C
G
So
the
limitations
are
Atkinson
Street,
as
we
know
it's
a
24
7
environment
and
we
have
hundreds
of
people
out
there.
We
have
tents
and
tarps
that
obstruct
our
view.
We
have
violent
crimes
open
using.
We
have,
you
know
the
selling
of
stacks
and
so
on.
We
only
have
with
so
many
offices
Meanwhile
we're
at
the
peak
I
know
this
is
a
year-round
thing
we're
at
the
peak
time
for
violence
in
our
in
our
city.
We
have
tons
of
events
that
are
going
on
so
staff
often's
always
an
issue.
G
Yet
we
are
down
there,
24
7.,
some
of
our
other
limitations
is
just
being
able
to
you
know
our
city
Partners
have
been
great
but
the
hours
you
know
we.
We
need
going
forward
that
the
conversation
has
been
to
make
our
Partnerships
and
pairing
with
others
a
20
Around,
the
Clock
partnership,
so
that
we
can
deliver
services
at
night,
because
at
night
BPD
is
typically
the
only
one
out
there
and
we
have
a
couple
of
officers
out
there.
G
So
I
think
going
forward
the
discussion
and
the
focus
is
to
be
able
to
hand
people
off
and
get
services
and
placement
during
the
wee
hours
of
the
night
and
as
far
as
the
drug
sales
like
I,
don't
want
anyone
to
take
out
of
context.
We
are
not
promoting
open-air
drug
using
and
drug
sales
has
always
been
dealt
with.
That's
nothing!
We've
ever
taken
lightly.
G
C
K
So
I
can
say
two
things,
I
think
the
question
one
of
the
questions
was,
you
know,
sort
of
Declaration
of
an
emergency
and
I.
What
I
would
say
to
that
is
that
we've
certainly
discussed
this
particularly
you
know
declaring
Public
Health
Emergency,
and
we
don't
necessarily
believe
that
a
declaration
in
and
of
itself
lends
anything
more
to
our
efforts,
our
energies,
our
ability
to
intervene,
the
funding
that
we
have
available
our
ability
to
delegate
resources
to
this,
then
us
moving
along
as
we
as
we
have
been.
K
You
know
this
is
certainly
a
crisis,
we're
certainly
addressing
it
as
such,
which
is
why
we're
having
meetings
like
this
and
going
through
all
the
the
work
with
you
know
that
has
been
described
by
by
my
colleagues
here
this
evening.
So
in
terms
of
working
with
the
state
we're
working
very
closely
with
the
state
we
met
with
the
state.
Today
we
meet
with
them
on
a
regular
basis
to
talk
about
spaces.
The
state
is
co-funding
some
of
the
low
threshold
housing
that
we
have
available.
K
The
state
is
replicating
low
threshold,
housing
spaces
outside
of
the
city
and
the
state
funds.
A
lot
of
the
work
that
we
do
through
the
Boston
Public
Health
commission,
certainly
in
regards
to
both
Recovery
Services,
as
well
as
homeless
services.
So
there
is,
there
is
a
tight,
strong
collaboration.
C
Q
Q
Q
That
would
solve
I
just
got
I
just
got
a
request,
saying
what
I
like
to
have
it
recorded
I've
already
pressed
the
record
piece
I've
been
on
since
the
meeting
started
at
seven,
so
I.
Don't
appreciate
that
and
the
fact
that
you
know
again,
a
lot
of
this
information
has
been
shared
with
the
community
over
and
over
again,
we've
heard
it
we've
seen
some
of
the
actions
take
place.
Q
I
have
two
questions.
One
of
my
questions
is
what
ordinance
or
law
on
the
books
allow
folks
to
self-inject
themselves
and
use
any
drugs
that
are
classified
as
illegal
substance
that
are
on
the
books
in
the
state
of
Massachusetts
or
city
ordinance.
Since
we're
talking
about
an
ordinance
about,
you
know
removing
tents
from
a
public
Street,
what
ordinance
and
state
laws
exist
to
to
have
the
police,
Stand,
By
and
Watch
folks
perform
these
things
in
front
of
us.
Q
Q
When
is
the
truth
going
to
actually
be
presented
to
the
community,
because
what
we
see
is
not
what's
being
told
to
us,
what
we
deal
with
every
day
is
not
what
we're
dealing
with
I've
been
at
Clifford
Park.
Since
five
o'clock
I've
been
shooting
people
away
since
I
got
here
once
the
officer
left,
the
encampments
are
back.
I
have
encampments
everywhere
behind
me,
I'm,
here
waiting
on
a
few
parents
to
pick
their
kids
up,
but
again,
I
can't
put
a
team
on
the
field
because
of
the
ongoing
conditions
right.
C
G
Oh
so,
as
far
as
laws
and
ordinances,
there's
no
law
or
ordinance
that
promotes
or
allows
a
person
to
use
drugs
openly.
What
we
have
here
is
something
that
has
become
has
transformed
into
a
Public
Health
crisis.
We
have
people
who
are
in
dire
need
of
services
in
in
a
in
an
epidemic
sense.
We
don't
want
to
go
around
snatching
needles.
It's
a
public
safety
concern
for
everyone.
G
You
know
the
police,
it's
gotten
to
a
point:
it's
not
an
enforcement
matter,
it's
a
Public
Health
crisis,
but
we're
willing
to
work
in
cohesion
with
everyone
to
get
to
the
bottom
and
reach
the
people
that
we
can
reach.
So
as
far
as
laws,
there
are
no
laws
that
allow
that
you
know
there
are
laws
that
prohibited,
but
it
be
unreasonable
to
think
that
we'll
just
go
and
start
arresting
everyone
who's
sitting
on
a
curb
shooting
the
needle
up,
because
this
is
nothing
this
hasn't.
This
didn't
just
come
to
be
overnight.
G
R
R
C
A
Hi,
so
South
Bay
has
hosted
the
the
whole
coordinate
Response
Team,
by
which
I
mean
Boston
police,
Boston,
Public
Health
ourselves.
In
a
few
occasions
for
walk-throughs
at
South
Bay,
the
captain
captain
Boyle
is
the
district
Captain
I'm.
Sorry,
yes,
Captain
Boyle
is
the
is
the
captain
in
the
area
who's
been
in
constant
touch
with
the
managers
of
the
different
businesses
out
there
and
South
B
is
on
the
daily
route
for
bphc
Outreach
Services,
both
in
the
morning
and.
A
A
Outreach
worker
will
do
when
they
come
around,
is
they'll
engage
with
the
person,
so
if
someone's
there,
if
they're,
visibly
using
drugs
or
have
a
lot
of
positions
with
them,
indicating
that
they
may
be
homeless,
they'll
talk
with
them.
They'll
explain
to
them
that
there's
shelter
available
that
there's
drop-in
centers
available
where
they
can
spend
their
time
and
connect
with
their
services
instead
of
being
out
kind
of
in
that
area
and
they'll
make
those
offers.
And
when
people
are,
you
know
not
amenable
to
moving.
A
S
Hi
good
evening,
everyone,
so
thank
you
for
giving
me
the
time
to
talk.
First
and
foremost,
I
just
want
to
say
that
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
people
out
there
actually
doing
work
so
I
think
that
doesn't
get
acknowledged
and
so
I
don't
want
to
take
away
from
any
of
those
Municipal
Employees.
Those
working
that
are
contracted
or
anything
like
that.
S
From
the
comments
I'm
about
to
make
I'm
a
business
owner
with
my
family
in
Roxbury
and
Dr
ojikutu
I
know
that
you
are
have
stepped
into
a
role
that
is
immense.
But
when
I
heard
you
speak
about
Folks
at
making
decisions
feeling
like
it
doesn't
need
to
be
a
health
emergency
and
not
really
making
a
difference.
S
S
We
can't
take
it
anymore,
thankfully,
to
some
of
the
work
that
our
walkthrough
has
done
with
the
Nubian
Square
task
force,
Robert
George,
our
board
President,
we
got
in
the
help
of
our
city
councilor
we're
able
to
get
the
parking
lot
over
their
Nubian
square,
at
least
manageable
now,
but
they
keep
coming
back
taking
over
our
businesses
and
people
don't
want
to
come
and
shop
and
at
the
end
of
the
day,
when
the
rent
has
to
get
paid.
No
one
cares.
S
They
you
know
they're
dealing
with
their
recovery
enforcement
is
needed.
It
needs
to
be
a
balanced
approach
and
to
the
deputy
superintendent
I
understand
there
is
a
there's,
a
drug,
I'm,
sorry,
there's
officers
that
deal
with
the
drugs.
It's
not
them.
It's
the
other
officers
that
will
watch
things
happening
and
won't
arrest
people
and
who
will
sit
in
cars.
S
Apologize
I
didn't
hear
it,
but
that's
that's
just
some
of
the
things
and
the
businesses
and
the
residents
of
Nubian
Square
not
being
represented
here
right
now,
although
I
I'm
thankful
for
those
that
spoke
up
but
I
just
want
to
put
a
face
with
the
name
of
business
and
people
doing
the
work
down
there.
Thank
you.
T
T
Our
provides
for
the
staff
so
by
talking
about
the
staff,
we're
talking
about
mass
and
cast
The
Crisis,
but
what
is
going
on
with
this
tab?
I've
been
there
doing
volunteer
many
times,
and
it's
it's
really
stressful.
When
I
left
going
back
to
home
I
have
to
you
know,
because
it's
really
stressful.
How
do
you
work
with
the
staff?
Thank.
K
So
I
appreciate
your
question
at
the
engagement
Center.
There
are
a
number
of
services
that
are
provided.
I.
Think
one
of
the
key
Services
is
that
Boston
healthcare
for
the
homeless
operates
a
clinic
there
and
those
nurses
work,
along
with
our
Recovery
Services
Outreach
team,
to
address
overdoses
and
to
reverse
overdoses
on
Atkinson,
Street
Southampton.
You
know
the
surrounding
area.
K
In
addition,
this
space
offers
you
know
de-engagement
resources,
so
for
people
who
have
nowhere
else
to
go,
they
do
come
to
that
space
and
they,
you
know,
engage
in
in
a
community
which
I
think
is
an
important
service
to
provide
a
lot
of
people,
don't
see
bathrooms
and
showers
as
a
as
a
service.
But
that
is
what
bathrooms
and
showers
are
for
people
who
are
unsheltered
and
unhoused.
K
There
are
other
services
that
have
been
provided
at
the
engagement
Center,
some
of
which
have
been
curtailed
largely
because
of
the
overwhelming
activities
on
the
street
and
what
we've
already
described
in
terms
of
the
uptick
in
the
nature
of
the
violence.
That's
out
there.
So
that's
what
the
engagement
Center
was
designed
to
do.
You.
K
Oh
okay,
I
thought
you
were
asking
first
I
thought
you
were
asking
about
the
engagement,
Center
I
apologize
for
the
staff.
You
know
I
wish
that
there
were.
You
know
my
you
know,
sort
of
the
bureau
directors
who
were
there
I
hear
what
you're
saying
I
think
that
it's
very
challenging
to
work
in
that
circumstance
to
work
in
that
environment.
Our
staff
at
the
recovery
services
Bureau,
are
incredibly
dedicated.
K
K
You
know,
particularly
recently,
we've
had
a
number
of
instances
that
have
been
very,
very,
very
enormously
stressful
and
it's
it's
much.
It's
a
significant
problem
and
for
me,
as
the
executive
director
of
the
Boston
Public
Health
commission
staff
safety
is
my
is
my
number
one
priority
and
we've
we've
altered
a
lot
of.
What's
happened
at
the
engagement
Center
by
putting
in
specific
security
procedures,
adding
mental
health
support
services.
K
You
know
counseling
services
for
our
staff
and
one
of
the
reasons
why
we're
moving
forward
with
this
enhanced
security
protocol
is
because
we
are
have
been
so
worried
about
our
staff.
Not
you
know
safety
on
the
street,
whether
it
be
bphc
staff,
City,
Hall
staff
contractor
Services,
DPW
BPD,
everybody
on
the
street,
so
I
hope.
That's
somewhat
helpful,
but
I
didn't
understand
your
your
initial
question.
So
hopefully
that
answered
what
you
were
trying
to
ask.
C
U
Appreciate
it
I'll
be
quick.
Let
me
first
start
out
by
saying
this
is
everything
I'm
going
to
say
is
not
an
attack
on
the
people
that
are
trying
to
do
good
work
in
the
in
the
Healthcare
Community?
It's
not
about
that,
but
for
the
10
years
that
I've
been
a
resident
and
actively
involved
with
raw
experience,
South
denders
on
this
crisis,
the
city
continues
down
the
same
failed
policy
path,
which
is
putting
residents
and
businesses
and
even
those
suffering
more
at
risk.
U
Myself,
like
many
others
on
this
call,
have
a
once
again
a
major
concern
with
this
new
plan,
the
closing
of
Atkins
Street,
specifically
and
moving
all
of
the
services
closer
into
the
neighborhoods
at
mass
in
Albany,
with
the
hundreds
of
people
that
gathered
today
on
Atkinson,
which
include
violent
and
dangerous
folks,
now
being
displaced
in
a
new
shelter
with
Services
being
opened
closer
to
neighborhoods.
We
are
going
to
see
and
we've
seen
it
before
more
needles,
more
dangerous
activity,
human
feces
people
gathering
in
alleys,
resident
doorsteps,
schools
Parks
like
Clifford
Orchard
Gardens.
U
How
do
you
expect
to
contain
the
potentially
hundreds
of
people,
many
of
them
being
dangerous,
that
are
going
to
be
now
even
more
spread
out
across
the
city
with
a
police
force
that
is
self-admittedly,
exhausted
and
overwhelmed?
That's
the
first
question
and
the
second
question
is:
are
there
other
locations
outside
of
the
south
end
and
Roxbury
being
considered
for
these
services
and
shelters?
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
I
believe
for
the
first
question,
I
provides
the
answer
which
is
joint,
Outreach
teams.
I
can
let
my
colleagues
expand
more
on
what
those
are,
but
that's.
The
goal
is
to
provide
Outreach
teams
that
are
coming
in
engaging
with
people
in
smaller
groups
and
increasing
our
uptake
of
shelter
services
and
daytime
Services,
which
are
available
across
the
city
as
far
as
locations
I'll.
Let
Dr
ojukudil
answer
that
question,
but
yeah.
U
K
So
over
the
course
of
the
last
few
weeks
where
this
plan
has
evolved,
the
need
to
have
transitional
spaces
for
individuals,
a
small
number
of
individuals,
so
by
small
I,
mean
30,
who
would
be
registered
with
us
who
we
would
know
who
people
people
who
we've
been
working
with
already
to
have
a
shelter
and
a
place
to
exist,
particularly
as
whether
it
becomes
colder
as
we
move
them
into
permanent
housing.
This
is
an
important
need.
These
are
people
who
are
actually
chronically
unhoused.
K
They
are
not
everybody
who
is
on
Atkins
history,
so
I
just
want
to
be
very
clear
about
that.
There
are
a
number
of
different
groups
of
people
who
are
on
Accessory.
There
are
people
who
are
coming
down
there
to
engage
in
drug
use.
Okay,
they
have
substance,
use
disorder,
they're
engaging
in
drug
use,
but
they
have
places
to
live.
There
are
also
people
who
are
selling
drugs.
There
may
be
overlap
there,
they're.
Also
people
who
are
you
know
larger
term
larger
scale,
sort
of
drug
drug
Distributors.
K
So
there
are
people
out
there
do
not
need
the
kind
of
services
we're
talking
about,
but
there
is
a
smaller
group
of
individuals
that
we
are
trying
to
find
spaces
for.
We
have
put
forth
an
enormous
effort.
Mayor's
office
of
housing
has
led
the
way
to
find
spaces
around
the
around
the
city
to
expand
what's
already
Limited
in
terms
of
our
shelter
supply
for
people
who,
you
know,
really
need
or
have
urgent
needs
for
a
roof
over
their
head.
K
So
we
went
through
our
housing
Supply
everything
that's
under
the
control
of
the
boss,
Public
Health,
commission,
the
city
and
said:
where
could
we
move
people?
It's
two
services
that
we're
talking
about
we're
talking
about
a
space
for
30
individuals
who,
like
I
said,
are
chronically
unhoused,
who
are
already
working
with
us
who
are
in
our
system
who
we
register
and
we
know
who
they
are
and
a
place
for
Boston
healthcare
for
the
homeless,
who
is
a?
They
are
a
critical
partner
for
this
very
vulnerable
population
to
provide
Clinical
Services.
C
Thank
you
for
that
answer.
We
are
nearing
towards
the
end
of
the
the
meeting.
I
want
to
give
space
to
State
Rep
John,
Moran,
Suzanne,
Bruce,
Jose,
Ruiz,
Leah,
Jackson,
I,
believe
and
then
Tanya
Fernandez
Anderson,
who
is
the
district
seven
City
councilor
as
the
last
person
to
speak,
State,
Rep,
John,
Moran,
yeah,.
F
Thanks
I'll
just
make
this
super
quick,
so
I
just
want
a
clarification
because
it
doesn't
seem
like
we're.
It's
you're
we're
being
you're
being
very
clear
back
to
rjq2,
so
this
temporary
sleeping
space,
which
we
hope
won't
be,
and
the
location
it's
at
7,
27,
Albany,
there's
plenty
of
other
Solutions
and
I
understand.
I.
Do
thank
your
office
for
confirming
you
are
looking
for.
An
alternative
I
do
appreciate
that
does
that
at
the
last
minute
last
night
you
indicated
that
there's
also
going
to
be
Clinical
Services
there.
F
Can
you
just
clarify
that
and
I
walk
down
today,
because
I
like
to
do
this
I
walk
into
a
hope
and
they
were
doing
Boston
healthcare
for
the
homeless
right
across
right
across
the
street,
with
with
from
which
what
would
have
been
this
facility?
So
can
you
clarify
and
just
be
really
clear
and
transparent
to
us
what
this
so-called
sleeping
space
is
going
to
do
versus
the
ahope
location
and
and
and
how
can
the?
How
look
at
the
sleeping
space
we
call
temporary
if
you
have
Clinical
Services
there.
K
So
it's
two
Services.
There
are
two
spaces
that
are
conjoined,
so
there's
this
space
where
people
will
sleep
and
then
there's
a
space
where
people
provide
Clinical
Services.
So
at
the
space
where
people
where
Boston
healthcare
for
Boston
healthcare
for
the
homeless
provides
Clinical
Services,
they
will
be
providing
the
types
of
Clinical
Services
that
they
were
providing
in
the
engagement
Center.
K
So
for
many
people,
that's
directly
observed
therapy
for
HIV,
which
is
critical,
that
people
stay
remain
adherent
for
Hepatitis
C
for
pre-exposure,
prophylaxis,
wound
care
and
other
diseases
other
chronic
problems
that
people
have
that
will
be
managed
there,
because
what
the
situation
that
we
have
that's
occurring
currently
on
Atkinson
Street
became
or
has
become
so
dangerous
that
Boston
healthcare
for
the
homeless
does
not
feel
comfortable
at
this
time,
reinitiating
their
clinic
within
the
engagement
Center.
That's
not
to
say
that
they're,
not
partners
with
us.
They
are
certainly
Partners.
K
They
are
working
in
other
aspects
of
our
programming,
but
that
is
not
how
they
wish
to
utilize
their
Staffing
Resources.
We
had
to
find
another
place
for
them,
and
that
is
where
it's
proposed
to
be
to
be
relocated
to
this.
This
space,
where
people
will
be
sleeping
I'm,
calling
it
transitional
space,
because
the
idea
is
that
these
are
people
who
are
already
on
route
to
get
some
housing
they
are.
We
are
trying
to
move
them
along
a
pathway.
K
They
are
people
who
are
known
to
us
in
this
process
of
disaggregating
people
from
this
from
this
area
we
may
lose
them,
and
that
would
be
unfortunate,
so
we
are
trying
to
keep
them
engaged,
so
they
will
be
identified
and
they
will
be
offered
this
particular
space.
So
that's
I,
hope
that
clarifies
and
I
apologize
if
I
said
that
at
the
very
end,
but
that
has
always
been
that
has
basically
been
been
the
plan
we
want
to
keep
this
contained.
K
We
are
not
looking
for
something
that
brings
all
services
to
the
storefront
area,
725
Mass
Ave.
This
is
meant
to
be
a
contained
space.
We
can
talk
more
about
security.
We
can
talk
more
about
all
the
measures
that
we're
taking
to
ensure
that
we
don't
have
people
congregating
outside,
because
that's
certainly
not
what
we
want
to
do.
That's
certainly
not
the
intention,
certainly
not
the
plan.
K
This
call
right
now
that,
since
all
of
what
has
happened,
has
happened
in
the
area,
they've
lost
a
considerable
number
of
people
just
lost
a
follow-up
just
because
they
haven't
been
as
active
as
we
would
like
them
to
be,
and
certainly
as
an
infectious
disease
physician.
We
don't
want
that
to
happen,
given
the
communicable
nature
of
the
diseases
that
I'm
talking
about
so
I
hope
that
was
somewhat
helpful.
I
can
talk
to
you
more
and
give
you
more
details.
V
Good
evening,
thank
you
Brianna,
thank
you
for
keeping
us
on
track
and
I
hope
I'm
as
eloquent
as
I've
heard.
So
many
of
the
people
be
in
this
discussion.
My
concern
is
based
on
the
polarization
of
Boston
in
this
the
surrounding
areas.
My
family
came
here
in
1923
and
it
has
always
been
polarized.
I
know
where
to
find
my
Irish
sisters
and
brothers.
V
Is
you
already
know
this
stuff
they're
from
other
communities?
They
don't
live
in
Boston
right.
These
individuals
out
there
need
services
and
if
we
use
the
police
department
as
a
sweep
to
clean
up
a
lot
of
people,
black
people
particularly
don't
have
good
relationships
with
the
police
in
our
communities.
Even
though
we're
very
Progressive
and
everybody
else
loves
us.
The
lot
of
the
things
that
happen
internally.
W
A
Yes,
I
think
I
went.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Jose.
We
miss
you
as
well.
I
will
give
people
the
website
it's
boston.gov
Madison
cast
once
you
go
there.
There
is
a
dashboard
that
has
different
tabs
daily
operations,
311
data,
syringe
data,
public
safety,
data
treatment,
data
and
housing
data.
So
you
can
see
the
results
of
the
metrics.
We
are
able
to
track
on
there
love
to
be
able
to
track
more
metrics,
but
that's
at
the
moment,
what
we're,
with
our
current
capacity,
able
to
do
so.
A
We're
counting
crowd
size,
we're
counting
311
cases,
resolved
the
types
of
cases
and
the
speed
in
which
we
are
resolving
them.
Those
are
city-wide.
Syringe
data
is
tracking
how
many
syringe
just
are
returned
and
the
ratio
between
returned
and
provided
public
safety
data
is
following.
Ems
calls
as
well
as
BPD
incident
reports.
A
Treatment
data
is
tracking
the
referrals
that
the
Boston
Public
Health
commission
is
making
to
detox
facilities
and,
lastly,
the
housing
data
is
tracking
exclusively
the
effort
related
to
the
low
threshold
transitional
housing
sites,
and
those
are
the
numbers
I
gave
at
the
beginning
of
the
presentation.
So
149
people
are
permanently
housed.
A
173
currently
in
the
in
the
programs
with
506
being
served
in
total,
and
we
also
have
a
one-year
report
that
goes
a
little
more
in
the
weeds
into
some
of
the
metrics
about
those
programs.
As
far
as
how
many
people
in
the
sites
have
been
connected
to
substance
use
disorder
treatment,
how
many
of
them
have
been
connected
to
a
primary
health
care
provider?
How
many
of
them
have
been
connected
to
substance
use,
Primary,
Health
mental
health
services?
A
K
X
X
We're
building
all
these
buildings
around
here
and
charging
all
this
hybrid,
where
there's
no
rent
control.
All
that's
also
hurting
people
too,
because
a
lot
of
the
people
have
become
homeless,
which
is
an
issue.
So
why
we're
not
taking
any
of
these
buildings
to
help
with
these
type
of
programs
to
help
more
make
more
committed
long-term
facilities
to
help
these
people
and
give
more
options
of
affordable
housing,
because
it's
not
happening
in
Boston
and
to
try
to
reroute
people
to
other
people's
towns.
I
know
myself.
I
wouldn't
want
that
in
my
town.
X
So
the
issue
is
here
so
to
try
to
reroute
it.
It's
not
gonna.
It's
not
gonna
make
a
difference.
It's
only
going
to
spread!
That's
not
addressing
the
issue
on
hand.
They
have
to
be
held
accountable
to
be
able
to
help
them
to
be
able
to
get
themselves
back
on
track,
so
we're
spending
our
tax
dollars
for
you
guys
to
allow
them
to
just
sit
down
here
when
we
got
babies
out
here
that
are
being
shot
and
killed
and
stuff
on
the
street,
while
they're
patrolling
to
watch
people
shoot
up
drugs
like
helping
me.
C
G
G
But
you
know
we
understand
the
optic
of
someone
using
and
you
know
we,
we
overflood
the
courts.
If
we
started
just
snatching
people,
you
know
with
the
needle
in
the
arm
and
dragging
them
into
court.
You
know
they're
in
need
of
services,
they
need
and
need
a
medical
attention
and
you
bring
them
into
a
locked
facility
and
our
police
stations
are
not
equipped.
We
don't
have
medical
Personnel
present
to
attend
to
the
needs
because
they
go
through
withdrawal.
They
go
through.
Other
physiological
reactions
to
drug
use,
so
taking
them
into
custody
is
not.
G
E
Thank
you,
Chief
mallor
I.
My
questions,
I
guess,
are
just
full
clarification
for
my
constituents.
When
do
we
have
another?
The
next
meeting,
when
is
the
next
meeting?
If
there
is
an
another
meeting,
I
think
it
was
about
an
average
of
120
to
140
people
on
and
off,
they
should
that
that
obviously
doesn't
represent
all
of
Roxbury,
and
so,
if
we're
gonna
have
another
meeting,
then
can
it
be
in
person
and
then
will
the?
E
Can
we
give
the
community
more
advanced
notice
next
time,
What's
the
total
population
of
beds,
currently
that
we're
looking
for
in
order
to
place
people
and
where,
where
exactly
do
we
have
a
map?
Do
we
know
exactly
all
of
the
beds
and
locations
and
numbers
if
we
don't
happy
to
receive
that
so
that
I
can
disseminate
to
my
constituents,
but
also
in
terms
of
services?
Over
sentencing
I
know
that
we've
had
a
lot
of
conversations
about
it.
E
So
when
have
we
explored
Lisbon,
Portugal's
research
and
I
understand
that
there's
some
contention
here
not
enough
time
to
discuss
it,
but
in
turn
it
that,
obviously
that
that
resonates
with
lives
in
Portugal
and
have
we
explored
it
at
all
and
then
the
last
question
is
in
terms
of
your
metrics
online.
It
doesn't
actually
give
your
data
visualization
of
the
plan.
It
just
gives
a
full
Outlook
document
so
to
make
it
more
user
friendly.
Can
we
make
it
more
visual?
E
Can
we
actually
Implement
metrics
to
show
your
long-term
plan
so,
for
example,
if
Long
Island
was
happening
and
then
the
graph
went
this
way
it
was
far
away.
What
does
that
look
like
visually
so
that
it's
more
user
friendly
for
the
constituents
to
digest
and
thank
you,
everyone
here,
Chief
mallor,
excellent
job,
managing
this
meeting
and
will
appreciate
another
meeting
and
continue
this
conversation.
A
Can
take
a
few
doll?
Not
all
of
these,
so
I'll
I
made
some
notes
if
I
skipped
over
anything.
Let
me
know
so.
I'll
just
start
with
the
da
Services
over
sentences
program.
We
are
making
daily
referrals
to
the
DA
Services
over
sentences
program.
We
think
it's
a
extremely
helpful
tool
and
I'm
actually
really
welcome
the
legislature,
funding
it
for
expand
it
so
that
it
could
scale
I,
think
that
can
only
help
we
are
seeing
good
effects.
So
we
really
welcome
that
development.
A
As
far
as
the
Lisbon
approach,
I
am
curious
to
see
what
people,
what
part
of
that
approach
people
are
most
interested
in
us
applying.
We
have
been
in
conversation
with
Dr
gulao,
Who
I'm,
spearheaded
that
effort
for
Portugal.
They
were
successful
in
mitigating
an
encampment
that
was
5
000
persons
strong
to
almost
nothing.
A
Now,
although
it
is
returning
in
his
consideration
because
of
lack
of
funding
for
treatment
services,
but
that
that
approach
has
a
few
components
that
I'll
name
I,
don't
think
all
of
them
are
feasible
here
as
well
as
soon
as
I
list
them.
You'll
know
why,
but
they
started
off
with
decriminalization
of
all
drugs.
They
also
have
a
single-payer
healthcare
system
that
provides
free
services
for
all,
which
was
crucial.
A
They
also
have
a
they
set
up
a
different
diversion
system
for
people
who
are
use.
You
know
caught
using
drugs
in
the
open
air
so
that
police
officers
refer
them
to
these
committees
that
served
as
diversion
to
either
treatment
or
the
justice
system,
whatever
whatever
was
applicable
in
their
case,
and
they
also
have
overdose
prevention
centers,
where
people
in
active
use
are
engaging
in
supervised
consumption
and
then
referred
into
Services
once
they're
ready
for
treatment.
A
E
A
A
The
top
of
my
head
would
be
some
beds
at
Pine
Street
and
some
additional
beds
at
the
friends
floor
and
Southampton
Street
Shelter,
some
events
for
women
at
a
shelter,
women's
shelter
and
Weymouth,
and
then
some
additional
capacity
at
the
Knight
Center
downtown,
which
is
a
good
one,
because
it's
lower
threshold
than
the
rest
of
the
shelters
that
I
just
listed
but
I'll.
Let
pasola
speak
to
that.
As
far
as
our
long-term
plan,
there
is
a
document
called
the
Strategic
Outlook.
You
can
find
it
on
our
website.
A
It's
authored
by
my
predecessor,
Dr
Monica
Burrell.
That's
the
plan
that
we're
long-term
implementing
I
will
point
out
that
there
is
a
gap
in
that
plan
because
it
doesn't
include
the
public
safety
component.
So
that's
something
we
want
to
add
in
the
works,
but
if
there
are
any
metrics
that
people
are
hoping
that
will
track
and
publish,
we
can
just
let
us
know
what
they
are
and
I'll.
Let
you
know
if
we're
collecting
them
or
not,
and
if
we're
not,
we
can
certainly
make
an
effort
to
collect
them.
A
E
A
E
E
In
fact
it
I'm
I'm
concerned
I'm,
I'm,
just
simply
asking
you
about
metrics
and
your
tone
is
to
respond
with.
You
know,
you're
interested
in
what
metrics
people
or
what
approaches
people
want
to
use
from
Lisbon
Portugal
I'm,
simply
asking
have
they
been
explored
if
they
haven't
been
or
if
you
have?
Yes,
that's
the
answer.
No,
but
I'm
not
attacking
you.
I've
re,
I'm,
I
appreciate
your
work.
E
I
come
here
with
transparency
and
I'm
having
a
conversation
with
you
and
people
want
to
be
appreciated
with
the
same
tone,
so
I'm
simply
saying
data
visualizations
for
the
Outlook.
If
you
can
do
that,
that's
great
I
was
not
speaking
to
the
metrics
on
the
services
that
you
provide
that
service.
Those
Services.
A
C
K
Sure,
in
terms
of
the
bed
list,
counselor,
so
mayor's
office
of
housing
is
leading
that
process
and
it's
in
evolution
to
all
of
the
spaces
that
Tanya
mentioned
are
ones
that
are
on
the
list.
We
are
looking
at
some
others,
so
if
we
could
send
you
a
more
final
version
and
send
that
from
the
mayor's
office
of
housing,
that
might
be
more
helpful
to
you,
as
well
as
to
everybody
else
who
would
be
interested.
So
if
that's
okay,
we
can
send
that.
Let's
see
today
is
Wednesday.
K
C
One
there's
definitely
intentionality
for
the
team
to
have
targeted
like
going
to
people
so
making
sure
we're
going
to
Neighborhood
associations
in
different
groups
within
the
community
to
bring
the
information
to
that
to
directly
to
the
neighborhood.
So
the
team
is
definitely
committed
to
doing
that
and
creating
space
for
updates.
C
As
we
continue
with
these
plans,
you
know
Tanya
I,
think
Brian's
on
from
her
team
as
well
have
been
doing
a
lot
of
the
work
on
the
ground
and
want
to
and
making
sure
to
connect
with
stakeholders
that
are
just
like
deeply
involved
in
what's
happening.
So
we
are
counseling
committed
to
further
engagement
on
this
process.
C
I
did
want
to
just
acknowledge.
We
are
we're
at
the
end
of
this
tonight,
but
this
is
an
ongoing.
You
know
conversation
and
something
that
it
takes.
You
know
all
of
us:
stakeholders,
community
members,
the
city,
our
city,
councilors,
elected
approach,
to
supporting
and
addressing
the
the
crisis
that
we
see.