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From YouTube: Human Rights and the Black Man in America 1-14-21
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The Boston Human Rights Commission is bringing awareness to the marginalization, trauma and necessary healing for black males in our society. Our goal is to bring awareness to this topic in order to help and heal black males. Our objective is to rebrand and redefine the way that society portrays black men.
B
Good
evening,
everyone
and
welcome
to
today's
discussion
on
human
rights
and
the
black
men
in
america.
I
am
evandra
cavallo
and
I
am
the
executive
director
of
the
boston
human
rights
commission
before
we
dive
into
today's
program,
which
I'm
very
excited
about
the
lineup
and
the
agenda
that
we
have
for
today.
B
The
commission
operated
between
1985
to
19,
mid
1990s
in
2019
mayor
martin,
walsh,
reactivated
the
commission
and
appointed
me
as
the
executive
director
in
january
2020
exactly
around
this
time.
Last
year
he
appointed
seven
commissioners
on
the
to
be
the
board
of
the
commission
and
I'll
list
them
briefly.
B
B
At
this
point,
I'd
like
to
just
briefly
do
some
logistics,
one.
This
event
is
being
recorded
and
we
intend
to
use
it
and
I'm
hearing
that
in
fact
it's
going
to
be
shown
in
local
tv
sometime
soon,
there's
going
to
be
q
a
in
the
end,
but
we
encourage
everyone
to
get
involved
in
the
chat
rooms
and
put
them
to
questions
and
get
the
discussions
going
at
this
point
without
further
ado,
let's
begin
the
program
I
want
to
start
by
introducing
aquino
speaker,
mr
brandon
jones.
B
C
Absolutely
take
it
over
so.
Thank
you
absolutely.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
the
introduction.
Thank
you
for
having
me.
It
is
an
honor
to
be
here
and
be
a
part
of
this
event.
This
is
important
for
us
to
continue
to
talk
about
not
just
the
legacy
of
black
men,
but
also
the
healing
and
the
futures
of
black
men,
because
we
all
play
a
part
in
that.
At
this
point,
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen
and
we
will
begin
with
the
keynote.
C
So
my
keynote
address
is
titled
black
mental
health
from
survival
to
sustainable
wellness
for
black
men.
It's
very
important
for
us
to
understand
that
black
men
do
not
just
get
into
the
shape
that
we're
in
in
a
vacuum.
There
have
been
many
different
things
that
have
taken
place
that
have
led
us
to
where
we
are
today.
C
I'm
only
going
to
touch
on
some
of
those
things
and
hope
and
set
really
a
good
foundation
for
our
panel
discussion
later
on
today,
a
little
bit
about
myself,
as
you
heard,
I'm
a
psychotherapist
professor
and
consultant
based
out
of
the
twin
cities
of
minnesota,
born
and
raised,
and
unfortunately
like
many
black
men,
even
many
professional
black
men.
You
know
my
work
is
both
personal
and
professional.
I'm
known
for
doing
work
around
trauma.
I
have
I've,
survived
a
house
household
and
early
life
experience
with
a
lot
of
domestic
violence.
C
One
time
is
more
than
enough,
but
I've
seen
plenty
and
being
able
to
develop
throughout
that
grow
throughout
those
and
still
seeing
community
issues
that
weighs
on
a
young
child.
But
I
had
good
mentors.
I
had
people
who
looked
out
for
me.
I
had
curiosity
that
led
me
to
another
level:
I've
been
in
the
social
service
profession
since
2009
my
educational
background.
I
have
a
bachelor's
degree
in
sociology
from
the
university
of
minnesota.
C
I
have
a
master's
in
community
psychology
from
metro
state
university
and
have
another
masters
in
psychotherapy,
with
the
emphasis
on
marriage
and
family
therapy
from
other
graduate
school.
Another
notable
thing
about
myself
is
I'm
a
2013
bush
foundation's
leadership.
Fellow
and
with
that
work
I
focused
on
social
and
emotional
intelligence,
development
of
african
american
adolescents,
and
most
of
that
work
was
focused
on
boys,
so
I
worked
with
governmental
entities,
educational
institutions
and
nonprofit
organizations
on
building
curriculum
programs
and
projects
that
were
all
aimed
at
improving
the
wellness
and
status
of
black
men
and
boys.
C
But
let's
talk
about
black
males
and
trauma
throughout
my
work,
one
of
the
things
that
I've
noticed
is
that
black
men
have
been
in
a
consistent
state
of
grief
that
doesn't
always
look
like
grief
for
a
long
time
and
one
of
the
other
things
that
I
noticed
that
many
of
us
have
noticed
since
last
year
before
you
know
last
march
2020.
Is
that
we're
all
kind
of
now
in
a
state
of
grief
due
to
covet
19.?
C
C
Here
are
some
of
the
things
that
we've
lost
from
covet
19
in
this
state
of
grief
that
we've
been
in
many
of
us
have
lost
access,
we've
lost
our
normal
routines,
we
lost
our
ability
to
choose,
we've
lost
connections,
we've
lost
opportunities
and,
unfortunately,
we've
lost
people
who've
passed
from
the
actual
virus
and
from
other
things
during
this
time
now
we're
all
dealing
with
this
grief
together
as
a
society
really
as
a
world.
We've
literally
adjusted
this
to
this
grief.
C
It
has
shifted
our
culture
and
our
environments,
and
it
was
perplexing
to
me,
because,
even
with
that,
most
black
men
that
I
know
have
already
been
dealing
with
these
similar
issues
and
we
don't
realize
that
we're
in
this
consistent
state
of
grief
and
we're
literally
just
surviving
and
moving
forward
through
it
day
by
day.
This
is
what
we
call
ambiguous
loss,
significant
loss
that
takes
place
in
our
lives.
Sometimes
we
recognize
it,
and
sometimes
we
don't
so
I
don't
want
to
get.
C
I
don't
want
that
to
get
lost
as
we
go
through
the
rest
of
today's
keynote,
but
I
want
you
to
think
about
how
much
more
complex
have
people's
lives
been
due
to
coved
and
then
think
about
people
who
already
had
extreme
complexities.
Who've
been
marginalized.
We've
been
dealing
with
historical
intergenerational
trauma
for
so
long.
However,
their
lives
been
impacted
by
not
just
the
pandemic,
but
everything
else
that
has
happened
during
the
pandemic.
C
We
have
shame,
we
have
fear,
we
have
anger,
we
have
grief,
and
then
we
have
an
emotion
that
I
call
the
pursuit
of
happiness
because
most
black
men
that
I
know
even
some
of
the
scariest
dudes
people
think
of
the
roughest
and
toughest
they
all
have
this
pursuit
of
happiness,
which
the
closest
emotion
that
I
can
attach
it
to
is
hope
they
have
hope
for
their
children.
If
they
have
them,
they
have
hope
for
themselves.
They
have
hope
for
their
community
and
we
can't
lose
sight
of
that.
C
When
we
look
at
the
issues
and
the
problems
of
black
men,
it's
not
that
they
are
hopeless
and
that
they
are
just
evil
monsters.
That
narrative
has
to
be
broken
as
we
move
forward.
Most
of
these
men
have
been
boys
and
have
been
hurt
and
have
are
going
through
things
and
it's
up
to
us
to
heal
ourselves
as
black
men,
but
also
as
a
community,
to
also
start
seeing
black
men
for
black
men
and
not
as
beings
that
are
causing
harm.
C
It's
important
for
us
to
understand
what
is
trauma
right.
We
have
you
know
in
my
field
of
mental
health,
we
have
people
who
say
things
like
big
t,
little
t
but
trauma's
trauma
and
at
the
end
of
the
day,
there's
so
many
fancy
academic
definitions
for
trauma.
Here's
one
a
deep
emotional
wound,
and
one
thing
that
I
know
about
deep
emotional
wounds-
is
that
they're
closely
connected
to
toxic
stress
and
toxic
stress
environments.
C
We
see
this
all
the
time
and,
unfortunately,
when
people
grow
in
toxic
stress
environments,
their
trauma
almost
ends
up
being
normalized,
where
you
don't
see
it,
because
it's
so
consistent,
it
becomes
quote
unquote,
part
of
their
culture
and
then
folks
start
to
pathologize
us
on
how
we
doing
how
we
are
responding
to
the
environments
and
the
situations
and
conditions
that
we
live
in.
So
keep
this
in
mind.
Trauma
is
a
deep
emotional
wound,
but
those
deep
emotional
wounds
show
up
differently
at
different
times.
We
have
what
we
call
racial
trauma.
C
Racial
trauma
or
race-based
stress
comes
from
dealing
with
racial
harassment,
racial
violence
or
institutional
racism.
It
is
often
compared
to
post-traumatic
stress
disorder,
as
the
symptoms
are
similar
with
irritability,
hyper
vigilance,
anxiety
and
depression.
C
One
of
the
ramifications
or
the
ripple
effects
of
racial
trauma
is
something
we
call
racial
battle
fatigue
and
many
people
have
this,
but
we're
talking
about
black
men
tonight,
black
men
who
deal
with
racial
battle
fatigue.
How
do
I
show
up
when
I
show
up
in
the
room?
Should
I
tone
down
my
voice?
Should
I
try
to
shrink
my
body?
Should
I
wear
a
hat
or
not?
Should
I
wear
a
black
mask
to
protect
myself
during
this
coronavirus
pandemic?
C
One
of
the
leading
scholars
on
racial
trauma
in
this
country
states
that
racial
oppression
is
a
traumatic
form
of
interpersonal
violence
which
can
lacerate
the
spirit,
scar,
the
soul
and
puncture
the
psyche,
and
think
about
that.
We're
talking
about
that
deep
work,
we're
talking
about
how
it
actually
impacts
and
affects
us
as
people
and
think
about
that
in
the
context
of
a
black
man
in
a
society
that
is
states.
C
That's
supposed
to
be
a
patriarchal
society
where
you
have
men
who
are
in
leadership
positions,
but
as
black
men
we
don't
get
to
have
those
same
privileges,
as
other
men
may
have.
C
C
It's
important
for
us
to
understand
how
stress
shows
up
right.
We
talk
about
stress
in
three
different
levels:
three
different
ways.
We
have
positive
stress,
which
everybody
has
right.
You
wake
up
late.
You
forget
to
find
a
link
to
that
zoom
meeting
you're
supposed
to
get
into
you're
running
late.
That's
positive
stress
you
forget
to
plug
in
your
cell
phone,
so
your
battery's
almost
dead.
That's
positive
stress
everybody
has
that.
C
Then
we
have
what
we
call
tolerable
stress.
It's
like
losing
a
loved
one
right,
grandma
dies,
it's
unfortunate!
It
shouldn't.
You
know
it's
painful.
Your
cortisol
levels
are
going
to
be
raised,
but
over
time
your
cortisol
levels
should
come
on
down.
But
then
what
happens?
Grandma's
birthday,
anniversary
holiday
season,
cortisol
levels
will
go
back
up
because
you're
feeling
that
anxiety,
that
stress
and
that
grief
of
losing
someone,
but
over
time
it
should
go
back
down
and
as
you
move
on
in
life,
your
stress
levels
should
kind
of
level
on
out.
C
Then
we
have
the
third
level
of
stress,
which
is
that
frequent,
strong
and
prolonged
stressors
of
adversity-
and
this
is
what
we
call
toxic
stress-
cortisol
levels
are
high
and
remain
high,
and
typically
they
remain
high,
because
people
are
in
environments
or
situations
that
support
that
level
of
stress.
These
are
toxic
stress
environments,
so
the
toxic
stress
stays
high.
C
Many
black
men
are
in
that
toxic
stress
level
and
area
all
the
time
just
showing
up
as
who
they
are
and
it's
become
normalized,
and
this
is
why
you
see
statistics
with
stress
related
health
disparities
and,
if
you
break
it
down
by
race
and
ethnicity,
black
men
are
always
high
in
that
list
and
then,
in
some
areas,
if
you
have
a
indigenous
population,
indigenous
men
are
high
on
that
list.
There's
a
historical
trauma,
that's
linked
to
that.
C
C
We
are
in
a
state
which,
which
what
I
call
survival
stress,
management
survival.
Stress
management
is
a
process
of
adapting
to
stressful
situations
by
acting
or
reacting
without
thinking
of
the
consequences
of
our
choices,
it
leads
to
immediate
satisfaction
and
instant
self-gratification,
resulting
in
an
increasing
stress
or
and
or
depression.
C
So
what
ends
up
happening
when
we
do
this
judgmental
and
distorted
thoughts
and
feelings
we
have,
we
can
be
impatient,
we
can
be
expl,
exploitation
can
take
place,
aggression,
abuse,
violence
directed
towards
another
person
or
even
towards
ourselves,
and
how
do
we
cope
with
this
right,
addictive
substances
and
behaviors,
so
things
like
using
drugs,
alcohol,
sex
shopping
or
shoplifting
fast
money,
gambling,
food,
video
games,
etc.
All
these
things
produce
a
limited
sense
of
relief
and
require
repetition.
Why?
C
C
So
often
so
we
have
to
remember
many
of
us
pretty
much
all
black
folks,
if
you
ask
me,
are
in
this
survival
stress
management
state,
but
we're
talking
about
black
men
again
and
for
black
men
too.
Many
of
us
are
in
this
space
and
we
don't
realize
it,
and
we
have
to
be
mindful
that
we're
in
a
survival
mode
when
we
should
be
in
a
thriving
mode.
C
Anytime,
you
talk
about
trauma,
especially
if
you're
in
social
services,
public
health,
etc
you're
gonna
run
into
something
called
the
adverse
childhood
experiment.
Study
and
adverse
childhood
experiences
is
pretty
much
the
things
that
people
go
through
when
they're
younger.
Now
in
the
in
the,
if
you
ever
just
research
or
google
aces
you're
going
to
find
a
pyramid
that
somewhat
looks
like
this.
C
African-American
men
have
some
of
the
worst
mortality
mortality
rates
in
this
country,
and
it's
because
of
how
we
show
up
and
how
this
world
shows
up
to
us.
But
we
can't
leave
out
the
intergenerational
and
historical
trauma
and
the
social
conditions
and
local
context,
which
is
the
environments
that
we
come
from.
Our
trauma.
C
We
have
to
be
able
to
break
those
cycles
and
understand
that
we
don't
need
to
carry
this
trauma
on
moving
forward
historical
trauma,
dr
mahmoud
al-qati,
who's,
a
local
african-american
historian
and
professor
here
in
the
twin
cities,
states
that
history
is
not
about
the
past.
It's
about
the
present.
C
Intergenerational
trauma,
which
is
really
what
historical
trauma
is
historical
trauma,
is
kind
of
like
the
pinpoint
the
intergenerational
trauma
is
the
ripple
effects
after
that
pinpoint.
So
the
intergenerational
trauma
is
the
transmission
of
historical
oppression,
toxic
stress
and
has
negative
consequences
across
generations.
C
There
is
evidence
of
the
impact
of
intergenerational
trauma
on
the
health
well-being
and
on
the
health
and
or
the
social
disparities
facing
a
collective
group
of
people.
What
has
the
lifespan
been
like
for
the
african-american
man
really
for
the
african
man
that
was
enslaved
and
created
to
be
the
negro
man
and
what
has
been
the
manifestations
of
the
negro
man
to
where
we
are
today?
C
One
of
the
things
I
want
to
highlight,
I'm
not
going
to
get
too
deep
into.
Is
this
concept
called
the
institutionalized
generation?
This
is
probably
the
first
time
many
of
you
have
heard
this.
This
is
kind
of
like
my
claim,
to
fame
when
we're
analyzing
what
is
taking
place
and
we're
about
to
we're
about
three
generations
into
this
institutionalized
generation.
Something
happened
during
the
80s,
really
it
started
in
in
the
late
70s,
but
really
during
the
80s.
Something
happened
where
we
have
multiple
different
things
taking
place
around
what
we
know.
C
C
And
what
do
we
know
about
black
culture
is
that
we
have
a
matriarchal
culture,
where
women
have
a
lot
more
voice,
leadership
and
influence
than
any
other
ethnic
group
that
I
can
think
of
around
the
world.
So
when
we
have
a
significant
amount
of
women
who
get
addicted
to
a
drug,
it
has
a
detrimental
impact
on
our
community,
which
ultimately
has
a
detrimental
impact
on
our
children.
C
Also.
This
was
a
time
period
where
black
boys,
young
boys,
got
introduced
to
a
job
market
called
drug
dealing
where
the
older
guys
got
smart
because
of
the
reagan
area
and
the
crackdown
and
said
hey
little
man
I'll
give
you
fifty
dollars.
If
you
drop
this
backpack
back
backpack
off
down,
you
know
downtown
to
some
man
named
reggie.
What
15
year
old
is
not
gonna.
Do
that
and
make
that
quick
money
back
in
the
80s?
C
So
what
happened?
The
crack
areas
introduced,
our
fabric
of
our
community,
starts
to
rip
and
shred
a
little
bit,
and
then
we
end
up
in
this
space
of
inferiority
and
dependency
on
things
that,
beyond
ourselves
like
social
services,
so
the
governmental
entities
come
in.
C
The
non-profit
entities
come
in
to
help
the
community
and
we
develop
culture
around
those
things
until
we
get
to
what
we
see
today,
what
we
call
the
new,
jim
crow
high
numbers
of
mass
incarceration,
we
we
hear
about
the
school-to-prison
pipeline
all
the
time
we
still
have
high
levels
of
black
men
unemployed,
adhd,
damn
right,
we
have
and
one
of
the
things
that
I've
noticed
as
a
clinician
when
I
get
diagnostic
assessments
are
done
before
they
came
to
see
me.
C
C
You
get
there
by
securing
each
level
on
this
pyramid,
physiological
safety,
love
and
belonging
esteem,
and
then,
ultimately,
you
can
reach
the
highest
level
of
yourself,
and
I
find
this
interesting
with
this
concept,
because
when
I
put
this
in
the
context
of
gender
and
on
race-
and
I
look
at
black
men-
we
are
stuck
at
the
bottom
two
levels
we
are
stuck
and
we
are
chronically
dependent
on
things
beyond
our
families,
beyond
our
community
and
outside
of
ourselves
on
these
base
two
levels:
how
do
black
men
reach
self-actualization,
which
leads
to
this?
C
How
do
we
get
here?
So
we
have
the
timeline
of
white
supremacy,
these
things
that
happen
in
vacuum.
They
did
not
happen
overnight.
We're
not
going
to
be
able
to
go
through
this
whole
timeline,
but
I
wanted
to
show
you
a
graphic
on
how
we
got
here.
There
have
been
systematic
things,
multiple
things,
some
things
that
aren't
even
represented
on
here
that
have
related
to
how
we
got
here.
C
Black
men
came
to
this
country
as
a
commodity
as
a
resource
for
other
people
to
build
wealth
and
prosperity
and
freedom,
and
we're
still
fighting
for
our
slice
of
that
american
pie.
So
to
say,
and
in
through
this
time
there
have
been
several
things,
legal
things
that
have
prevented
us
from
getting
there,
and
these
are
just
a
few.
C
So
we
need
to
consider-
and
we
need
to
think
about
how
did
black
men
get
to
the
place
that
they
are
in
and
then
we
think
about
what
we've
been
fighting
for
as
a
people,
we've
gone
through
246
years
of
shadow
slavery,
being
property
having
everything
stripped
from
us
and
being
told
who
to
be
we're
really
gmo
people.
I
like
to
call
this
gmo
negroes.
We
we're
lit
we're
literally
a
creation,
and
many
of
us
were
entered,
we're
bred
to
be
who
we
are
today.
C
Then
we
had
a
hundred
years
of
jim
crow
and
segregation.
What
I
call
jim
crowism
and
now
here
we
are
still
fighting
56
years
of
civil
rights,
right
citizenship,
rights
and
we're
still
fighting
for
the
same
thing,
so
we
have
over
402
years
and
that's
not
even
counting
the
transatlantic
slave
trade
on
where
we
are
today
and
how
we
got
into
the
position
and
condition
that
we're
currently
in.
C
However,
you
have
to
be
resilient
in
the
face
of
adverse
times
healing.
How
do
we
define
healing
healing
is
a
consistent
process
of
efforts
to
create
peace,
balance
and
justice.
This
is
what
we
need
to
be
thinking
about
when
we're
helping
black
men,
when
we
ask
black
men
to
create
peace,
balance
and
justice,
and
in
order
to
do
that,
we
need
to
have
what
I
call
post.
C
Traumatic
growth
and
post
growth
has
five
domains
which
I'm
gonna
go
over
here
in
a
moment,
but
ultimately,
post-traumatic
growth
or
benefit-finding
and
positive
psychological
exchange
or
change
exist
as
a
result
of
adversity
and
other
challenges
in
order
to
rise
to
a
higher
level
of
functioning.
This
is
where
we're
at
ultimately
post-traumatic
growth
highlights
the
bit
the
benefits
of
emotional
growth,
stronger
relationship,
bonds
and
a
different
perspective
on
life.
C
Let's
get
into
those
five
domains.
Number
one
personal
strength
trauma
often
leads
to
self-doubt.
We
recognize
our
abilities
to
handle
challenges,
increase
our
sense
of
capacities
to
survive
and
prevail,
and
we
must
believe
in
our
own
possibilities
as
black
people.
We
have
a
communal
strength.
We
talk
about
being
resilient
to
dealing
with
pain,
we
eat
pain
like
skittles,
but
we
need
to
talk
about
thriving
through
the
pain
and
getting
to
another
level,
not
just
taking
the
hits
that
we've
taken
over
time.
C
We
need
to
develop
healthy
relationships,
finding
support
and
networks
to
help
move
forward,
set
strong
boundaries
and
let
our
expectations
be
known.
Black
men
need
to
have
voice
and
we
can't
have
our
voice
shut
down
and
we
can't
be
penalized
and
talk
about.
You
know
we're
mansplaining
when
we're
sharing
our
concerns
as
well
being
afraid
of
being
vulnerable
is
a
major
obstacle
for
black
men.
C
I
need
to
have
appreciation
for
our
per
and
our
appreciation
and
a
purpose
in
life,
so
understand
what
is
important
to
us
and
why
we
value
what
we
value
make
sure
the
things
that
we
do
lead
to
our
purpose
and
celebrate
our
small
victories.
It's
okay,
to
support
a
brother
when
he
does
well
but
unfortunately,
being
conditioned
not
to.
C
We
need
to
have
consecutive,
constructive
choices,
don't
be
afraid
of
new
experiences,
explore
new
information
spaces
and
places
as
black
men.
We
need
to
grow.
We
need
to
see
ourselves
as
global
cities
as
universal
man
and
that's
okay,
to
grow
and
and
to
get
exposure,
because
that's
how
we
learn
other
people
do
it.
Why
don't
we
exposure
and
consistency
are
key
and
having
compassion
for
ourselves
is
very
important.
We
need
personal
development
as
well.
We
can't
be
afraid
to
find
out
who
we
truly
are
or
who
we
truly
want
to
be.
C
C
Resiliency
versus
post-traumatic
growth
so
being
resilient,
which
we
are,
is
the
ability
to
recover
readily
from
illness,
depression,
adversity
or
things
the
like
the
ability
to
regain
shape.
However,
what
I'm
saying
is:
don't
just
regain
shape
but
morph
into
something
bigger,
which
is
post,
traumatic
growth,
a
new
level
of
functioning
and
perspective.
C
It
is
a
transformational
response
to
the
adversity
that
we
experienced.
Nothing
can
stop
black
men
from
doing
this,
but
ourselves
and
we
have
to
continue
to
support
and
uplift
one
another
till
we
get
there.
So
with
that
remember
healing
is
a
journey.
It's
not
a
destination
and
as
black
men
we're
all
on
our
journey
and
on
that
journey,
you're
going
to
meet
different
facilitators,
you're
going
to
need
different
tools,
but
don't
forget
that
we're
on
our
path
and
I'll
pause
there.
Thank
you,
wow.
B
Wow
brandon,
thank
you
thank
you.
That
was
unbelievable.
Thank
you
for
in
fact,
yes,
if
we
were
in
a
in
a
space
in
city
hall
somewhere,
I
would
ask
it
all
of
you
to
give
them.
You
know
a
grand
clap,
because
what
he,
what
he
just
set
off
for
us
over
this
unbelievable.
So
I
thank
you
for
such
an
in-depth
presentation
on
the
trauma
associated
with
the
common
experiences
of
black
men.
B
So
I
appreciate
that
the
next
phase
of
today's
discussion
will
build
upon
this
and
then
sort
of
you
know
go
into
the
next
step
of
discussing
breaking
down
what
just
happened,
what
we
just
heard,
so
we
can
learn
more.
So
the
next
step,
as
I
said,
is
a
panel
discussion
it'll,
be
moderated
by
dr
craig
andrade.
B
D
Thank
you,
orlando
evandro.
This
is
a
pleasure
to
be
here,
I
feel
honored
to
be
among
these
leaders
of
men
and
illustrious
black
men
across
this
this
panel
discussion.
D
I
spent
a
good
amount
of
my
career
working
with
racial
equity
and
research
around
fatherhood,
adolescent
health
resilience,
and
here
we
go
to
I'll,
ask
everybody
to
raise
their
hand
when
I
mention
your
name
as
an
introduction
we
have
robert
lewis
jr
is
the
founder,
is
the
founder
and
president
of
the
base?
C
Yep
sure
I
can
start
with
that
one
and
that's
a
big
question.
You
know
we
we're
being
marginalized
in
many
different
ways.
There
are
some
legal
things
that
are
marginalizing
us,
like
I
think,
of
child
support,
and
I
think
of
so
many
black
men
who
struggle
to
maintain
healthy
relationships
with
themselves
with
their
with
their
partners
or
former
partners
and
with
their
children
due
to
the
legal
ramifications
of
things
like
child
support.
C
I
think
when,
when
I
look
at
education
as
well
as
one
of
the
ways
that
black
men
are
marginalized,
we
have
some
of
the
worst
outcomes,
educationally
from
this
young
as
kindergarten
first
grade.
That
is
a
major
detriment
to
the
outcome
and
the
the
trajectory
of
black
men
when
we're
not
getting
adequate
education
very
early
on
another
way
that
I
think
black
men
are
marginalized
is
through
through
how
we're
criminalized
the
things
that
we
do.
C
Do
you
know
that
one
of
the
things
that
still
perplexes
me
to
this
day
is
something
like
the
loitering
law,
like
black
men,
just
being
in
a
space
together
is
against
the
law
like
we
just
can't
be
places
like
that's
problematic.
That
comes
from
slavery,
or
actually
it
comes
from
after
slavery,
where
black
men,
if
you
were
corralled
together
that
was
considered
to
be
suspicious
and
you
could
get
picked
up
and
get
put
on
a
convict
lease
and
shipped
out
of
state
or
to
a
different
town
and
work
on
a
railroad
like
this.
E
Yeah,
dr
andre
there's,
you
know
first
and
foremost,
I
want
to
just
you
know,
piggyback
off
what
you
said,
dr
andre,
and
I
am
going
to
say,
dr
andre,
because
we
need
to
celebrate.
You
know
our
black
men,
our
black
leaders,
who
are
doctors
in
judge,
harris
and
and
professors
like
yourself
and
brandon.
E
When
you
start
thinking
about
terminology,
you
know
somebody
has
written
that
when
you
start
looking
at
us
and
our
community
and
our
people
and
black
men
that
we
are
less
than
we
are
the
ones
at
risk.
We
are
the
ones
that
are
underserved.
We
are
the
threat
and
not
looking
and
recognizing
and
seeing
the
talent
that
we
bring
the
greatness
that
we
put
and
it
starts
with
such
a
young
age.
So
think
it
is
that
someone's
already
saying
like
the
cradle
to
prison
pipeline.
E
I
mean
we're
already
talking
about
that
at
a
very
young
age.
Our
young
folks
are
actually
now
you
know,
they're
already
projected
of
where
they're
going
to
go
and
then
as
you're
moving
through
this
and
then
the
other
thing
that
I
find
that
you
know
what
marginalizes
us
is
when
our
young,
black
men
and
older
men
are
successful.
E
E
The
marginalization
then
flips
to
the
talent
level
of
what
our
young
folks
and
communities
could
be
when
we
bring
folks
together
like
we're
doing
tonight,
and
we
all
have
to
play
this
role
in
not
allowing
others
to
define
to
dictate
and
to
tell
us
what
we
and
who
we
are,
and
that
comes
from
education
that
comes
from
community,
that
comes
from
philanthropy
philanthropy
will
say.
You're
working
with
communities
of
color.
Tell
me
how
many
at-risk
young
folks
you're
working
with
no
one
says
talent.
D
E
Oh
I'm
sorry,
robert
lewis,
jr
the
founder
of
the
basin.
The
things
I'm
most
proud
of
I'm
a
boston,
public
school
grad,
grew
up
in
boston,
know
all
these
brothers
on
the
zoo,
but
I'm
just
committed
to
the
empowerment,
the
power
of
our
young
communities
and
our
young
folks,
and
also
using
sports
and
education
as
a
vehicle
for
urban
talent,
which
is
american
and
global
talent,
so
we're
using
sports
and
education
to
move
the
agenda
forward.
Thank
you.
F
Robert
lewis,
long
time
resident
boston,
who
already
in
jamaica
playing,
grew
up
right
in
the
you
know
in
in
the
heat
of
the
drugs,
the
guns
and
all
of
that
you
know,
I
like
what
robert
said
you
know.
I
think
this
marginalized
piece
is
really
about.
How
do
we
right
now
be
able
to
correct
that
within
ourselves,
through
our
teachers
through
our
parents
throughout
coaches?
F
We
have
to
teach
that
I
remember
a
study
they
had
in
texas,
where
they
was
taking
the
test
scores
for
fourth
graders
in
math
and
science
in
predicting
how
many
prisons
they
was
going
to
build
in
that
county.
F
G
Yes,
I'm
I'm
I'm
here
with
now
a
senior,
and
I
want
to
thank
our
opening
principal
speaker
for
what
he
said,
and
I
want
to
thank
the
commission
for
inviting
me
here
to
speak
a
little
bit
and
I
am
the
founder
of
the
stanley
jones
clean
slate
project,
which
is
an
ex-offender
think.
Tank
project
is
working
with
core
reform
and
how
to
change
thinking,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
I
I
was
thinking
about.
G
Is
that,
like
a
lot
of
the
parents
today,
they
seem
to
want
to
live
in
the
world
of
the
child
instead
of
the
child
living
in
the
world
of
the
parents.
They
are
acquiescence
to
a
lot
of
things
that
children
want
to
do
to
their
detriment,
and
they
just
don't
get
it.
They
don't
communicate
you
know,
and
and
and
in
boston.
You
know
they
glorify
going
to
jail.
G
You
know
they
emulate,
they
don't
think
on
their
own.
They
follow.
Instead
of
leading,
I
go
into
the
jails
I
go
into
the
prisons
and
I
see
a
lot
of
things.
One
of
the
things
that
I
notice
are
two
things
that
I
noticed
is
that
our
children
cannot
read.
Nor
can
they
write.
G
G
So
we
can
refine
the
person
and
we
don't
want
our
kids
to
go
into
prison
and
think
that
that's
the
way
to
go,
we
try
to
go
into
the
prisons
and
talk
to
them
and
encourage
them,
but
we're
not
getting
a
lot
of
support
from
the
state
in
terms
of
resources,
and
so
I
think
that
we
need
to
continue
to
have
these
kind
of
conversations
identify
with
the
issues
that
our
children
are
going
through,
because
we
have
some
issues
but
they're
a
little
more
extreme.
Today
they
kill
more
than
they
say.
G
G
So
children
are
going
to
emulate,
whatever
they
think
is
going
to
get
them
ahead,
and
a
lot
of
the
fathers
unfortunately
are
involved
in
criminal
activities.
They
will
try
to
hide
it
from
their
kids.
They
do
it
and
kids
are
encouraged
to
get
the
fast
dollar
go
for
the
flash
cash
whatever
and
end
up
in
jail.
D
C
C
You
know,
I
often
say:
how
can
you
tell
if
a
place
is
a
quote?
Unquote,
hood
or
ghetto
right
and
I
say
that's
a
place
where,
when
things
get
broke,
they
don't
necessarily
always
get
fixed
completely
and
it's
a
place
where
there's
not
a
lot
of
expectation
that
things
will
be
better,
and
I
say
that
because
that's
what
I
see
when
people
come
to
me
for
help
and
work,
that's
what
I
see
and
it's
not
to
kill
dreams,
but
it's
not
a
place
that
helps
manifest
a
lot
of
dreams
for
people.
C
It
literally
limits
our
ability
to
see
what
we
can
do
either
for
ourselves
or
what
we
can
actually
be,
and
black
men
then
get
steered
in
directions
to
only
become
certain
types
of
things
and
told
how
we
can
express
ourselves
emotionally
like
we
can't
get
angry
and
things
like
that,
and
we
can
only
be
angry
when
we're
either
boxing
or
on
a
football
field.
That's
when
it's
okay
for
us
to
be
upset
and
angry,
so
I
think
it
has
a
detrimental
impact
on
just
our
cognitive
ability
and
our
emotional
state.
H
F
Just
if
you
could,
I
just
want
to
expound
a
little
bit
on
pathway
to
redemption.
Listening
to
rob,
you
know,
rob
was
like
someone
that
I
watch.
I
follow
that
I
want
to
emulate
with
the
sports.
You
know
I
started
out
with
a
youth
program
20
something
years
ago
25
years
ago,
and
what
happened
is
the
event
that
happened.
One
of
my
younger
kids.
He
was
going
into
high
school
and
he
was
going
to
school
at
seven
o'clock
in
the
morning
got
shot
in
his
backyard
and
long
story
short
and
find
out.
F
He
was
trying
to
play
two
worlds.
He
wanted
to
be
a
great
basketball
player,
but
he
wanted
to
be
a
thug
on
the
other
side-
and
I
told
this
kid
when
I,
when
I
found
that
out,
I
said
man,
you
can't
thugs,
don't
go
they,
they
don't
go
to
sleep,
they
don't
go
to
school,
they
they
stay,
they
don't
go
on
the
basketball
court
and
I
changed
my
thinking
about
okay.
I
have
to
try
to
do
something
different,
so
I
created
pathway
to
redemption.
F
I
had
it
raided
dudley
station
and
one
of
the
things
that
ain't
the
panel
knows,
the
recidivism
rate
is
so
high.
I
said
I
wanted
a
program
that
was
won
developed
by
a
black
man
in
the
inner
city
that
people
identified
and
the
brothers
said
about
this
toxic
environment.
I
didn't
want
that
to
be
because
once
they
hit
dudley
station,
all
everything
explodes
all
the
all
the
isms
come
back
again,
so
the
program
was
down
there
and
that's
what
made
me
develop
this
program?
F
You
know
we
did
a
so
that
that
was
the
whole
premise
of
it
just
trying
to
do
something
they
were
adding
something
jobs,
different
things
like
that.
D
G
I
failed
to
I
failed
to
say
this.
I
spent
almost
six
years
in
the
united
states
military
in
the
united
states
army.
I
was
traumatized
in
the
army.
I
didn't
know
the
trauma
that
I
was
experiencing
and
consequently
I
went
to
jail
a
lot
of
times
because
of
my
substance,
abuse
disorders
and
I
didn't
create
a
program
at
first.
G
G
I
remember
being
in
the
detox
at
the
va
hospital,
and
I
asked
the
lord
to
help
me-
get
clean
and
stay
clean
and
to
write
that
was
25
years
ago
and
I'm
an
author,
I'm
a
playwright,
I'm
I'm
I'm
just
a
program
myself
and
I
don't
try
to
do
this
as
to
give
people
the
impression
that
I'm
trying
to
be
better
than
I
just
like
to
have
a
better
plan
to
carry
the
message
that
we
can
change
that.
We
don't
have
to
continuously
follow
that
track.
G
We
don't
have
to
have
a
query
in
our
lives
anymore,
that
determines
where
we're
going
to
sleep
where
we're
going
to
eat
and
if
we're
going
to
get
a
job,
and
so
when
I
met
stanley
jones
when
I
was
in
prison
because
he
was
the
next
offender
himself.
That's
where
I
began
to
get
my
inspiration
and
then
later
on.
There
have
been
other
people
in
my
lives
and
people
on
this
panel.
D
Hey
thank
you
and
you
you,
in
a
sense,
kind
of
help
to
answer
and
start
off
this
conversation
about
this
next
question:
how
do
black
men
being
their
voices
being
respected
in
the
midst
of
marginalization?
Your
story
says
a
whole
lot
about
that.
Can
I
ask
rob
lewis
jr?
Can
you
can
you
say
a
little
bit
more
about
that,
the
the
men's
being
respected
in
the
midst
of
marginalization.
E
You
know
there's
a
few
things
that
that
comes
to
mind
about
you,
know,
respect
and
some
of
that.
So
much
for
me
is,
and
I
think
what
heywood
and
a
few
folks
were
saying
here,
it's
almost
it's.
It
sounds
crazy,
but
we're
almost
giving
our
young
folks
and
people
permission
to
be
to
be
great
you're,
giving
them
permission
to
be
who
they
are.
Haywood
was
saying
he's
an
author.
E
We
had
a
word
come
into
our
organization
and
actually
do
a
book
reading
actually
brought
hayward
in
to
do
a
book
signing
and
we
wanted
folks
to
see.
Brother
hayward
is
an
author
and
a
leader.
It's
not
unusual
for
dr
harris
and
leonard
and
evandro,
and
rob
for
us
to
get
together
and
to
celebrate
each
other,
and
what
we
have
to
do
is
making
sure
that
our
community
knows
that
we
have
a
voice.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
we're
also
spending
time
and
promoting
each
other
right.
E
Unfortunately,
the
media
says:
what's
always
wrong
with
our
communities.
We
have
to
be
the
voice
that
shares
what's
right
in
our
communities
and
listen.
We
all
get
stories.
We've
all
got
stories.
We've
all
come
through
challenging
times,
but
I
I
will
say
this
and
and
and
brandon
thank
you
for
sharing
the
resilience,
the
healing
of
your
mind,
your
body
of
your
soul.
E
You
know
the
belief
in
yourself
and
your
potential
and
possibilities
are
there,
and
this
is
what
we
have
to
provide
all
of
our
young
folks,
because
if
we
don't
do
this
in
our
communities,
meteors
and
others
will
continue
to
keep
telling
what
we
can't
do
so
again.
I
I
don't
want
to
sound.
You
know
redundant.
D
I
D
A
whole
lot
to
say,
mr
lewis,
would
you
like
to
pick
up
from
there.
F
Thinking
about
that
just
comes
to
mind,
you
know
what
happened
lebron
james
when
that
that
the
the
reporter
told
him
to
shut
up
and
dribble.
F
You
know
we
know
that
that
sports
people
dribbling
hitting
the
baseball
football
different
things
like
that
taps
into
something
deep
inside
phil
jackson,
said
there's
more
to
sports
than
sports,
and
I
just
feel
that
the
way
you
are
as
as
a
athlete
says,
a
lot
about
who
you
are
as
a
business
person
a
doctor
or
different
things
like
that
and
we're
able
to
tap
into
that.
I
think
the
modulation
also
is,
as
we
are
going
to
talk
about.
This
is
changing
the
narrative
like
what
does
that
mean?
F
What
does
that
mean?
I
like
what
what
the
brother
said
about
the
purpose.
You
know
what
what
is
the
purpose
and
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we
can.
We
can
help
with
the
purpose
about
where
you
want
to
go
in
your
life.
Where
do
you
fit
within
yourself?
First,
how
do
you?
How
do
you
yeah,
you
might
be
marginalized
outside
of
yourself,
but
within?
Let's
try
to
let's
try
to
tap
into
that.
How
do
we
get
you
to
say
self-love?
How
do
we
get
you
to
feel
that
self-love
that
peace.
D
C
Yeah,
that's
a
deep
question.
Unfortunately,
black
trauma
looks
like
black
culture.
We
have
literally
adjusted
and
adapted
our
culture
around
being
marginalized.
Being
subjugated
and
being
you
know,
pretty
much
a
lower
class,
and
what
I
mean
by
that
is
not
that
we
need
to
be
a
higher
class.
What
I'm
saying
is
we
literally
have
to
develop
culture
and
having
things
not
go
our
way
and
being
subjugated,
and
it
doesn't
mean
that
there's
not
beauty
in
that.
C
I
mean
from
everything
from
the
religions
that
we
worship
from
the
clothes
that
we
wear,
how
we
name
our
children
where
we
live.
All
those
things
have
been
shaped
by
being
in
a
system
of
racism
and
being
in
a
system
of
white
supremacy
that
has
put
a
concept,
an
idea
of
who
and
how
we
should
be.
So
to
me,
that's
what
black
trauma
looks
like,
and,
unfortunately
we
have
internalized
that
systematic
white
supremacy
and
racism
into
what
I
call
anti-blackness
and
we
perpetrate
those
same
harmful
things
amongst
ourselves.
That's
what
black
trauma
is.
J
I'm
literally
one
of
the
commissioners
on
the
human
rights
commission-
and
you
know
it's
interesting-
that
some
people
will
look
at
this
panel
and
think
we're
the
exception.
But
we
really
are
the
rules.
J
Every
one
of
us
there's
10
robert
lewis,
juniors
out
there
there's
20
hayward
fresnels
out
there,
there's
200
crank
andres
out
there.
There's
50
robert
lewis
is
out
there,
there's
a
hundred
environments
out
there,
there's
500
brandons
out
there.
The
problem
is,
and
let
me
not
forget
honorable
judge
harris.
You
know,
there's
hundreds
of
john
harris's
out
there,
but
the
problem
is
that
we're
always
we're
always
pushed
up
to
seem
like
we're
the
wild
beasts,
and
we
become
the
exceptions
that
are
on
this
panel
and
we're
not.
J
There
are
brothers
out
there
who
are
who
are
who
who
we
celebrate
every
single
day
who
take
their
children
to
school?
Who
who
love
their
community,
who
love
their
wives?
They
don't
beat
up
on
their
wives,
they're,
not
on
substance
abuse
or
they
overcome
all
these
different
barriers,
and-
and
one
thing
I
think
has
to
be
heard-
is
that
the
dysfunction
is
not
the
norm
for
us,
and
this
is
not
to
take
anything
away
from
our
wonderful
black
sisters,
our
wonderful
black
children.
J
It's
like
how
do
we
heal
ourselves,
how
do
we
move
and
so
that
we
can
break
down
all
those
barriers
and
all
those
myths
about
us?
So
I
just
want
to
as
I'm
listening
to
the
panelists.
I
just
want
people
not
to
think
that
we're
some
some
we're
magical
negroes,
because
we're
not
we're
pretty
standardized
in
our
thinking
and
our
loving
and
our
caring
and
our
embracement
of
our
families,
our
community
and
and
our
society,
and
it's
it's
something
that
that
that
people
won't
sit
and
go.
J
Oh,
oh,
oh
brandon,
you're,
so
special
robert
louis
jr,
oh
you're,
amazing,
oh
hey
with
fennel
you're,
just
you
walk
on
water,
but
there's
so
many
of
us
walking
on
water
and
doing
some
amazing
things
that
just
get
overlooked
and
as
we
go
forward
with
this,
I'm
sure
we'll
be
discussing
that.
But
those
who
are
tuned
into
this
wonderful
panel
and
this
discussion
understand
one
thing
we're
just
like
you.
C
Yeah
just
to
follow
up
with
lee.
Thank
you
for
saying
that,
because
that's
what
happens
as
we,
we
become
these
extraordinary
negro,
males
and
there's.
So
many
of
us
that
are
extraordinary,
but
the
bar,
the
ideal
of
black
men
is
so
low
that
us
just
doing
the
basics
looks
like
we
have
capes
on
and
we
don't
we're
just
being
good
human
beings.
D
Thank
you
for
thank
you
and
I,
I
have
to
say
leonard
you.
You
understand
they
did
break
the
mold
after
they
they
made
you
that
was
it
they
didn't,
they
couldn't
go
any
farther.
H
I'm
sure
yes,
sir
see
one
of
the
things
that
I
recognized
is
that
I'm
a
child
of
the
60s.
I
was
black
before
the
word
black
is
beautiful,
existed.
You
know
my
hero
said.
We
must
begin
to
teach
our
children
that
they're,
young,
black
and
beautiful,
nina
simone
said
it
back.
Then
I
know
what
type
of
child
I
would.
I
got
suspended
two
or
three
times
a
week
at
school,
but
nobody
called
the
police
on
me.
H
H
We
live
in
a
society
that
has
criminalized
childhood
behavior
in
the
inner
city,
not
in
the
suburbs.
I
spoke
at
one
of
the
suburban
schools
to
a
group
of
students.
I
said
what
happens
if
you
get
in
a
fight
or
parents
have
to
come
up
to
school,
not
the
police,
the
parents.
H
H
H
So,
yes,
we
all
go
through
it,
but
yet
I
had
to
bite
my
tongue
see
I
watch
barack
obama.
I
know
what
he
went
through.
You
know
I
saw
he
was
on
the
south
side
of
chicago,
so
I
know
he
wanted
to
slap
the
mess
out
of
some
of
these
boats,
but
you
can't-
and
that
is
another
form
of
trauma
that
you
have
to
live
with.
H
D
G
I
always
want
to
ask
something
I
I
really
do
you
know,
because
I
remember
when
I
first
went
into
prison,
I
didn't
go.
I
didn't
go
to
jail
until
I
was
28
years
old,
but
then
it
seems
like
I
did
a
straight
28
years,
but
when
I
came
from
up
under
the
maze
of
using
drugs
as
a
lot
of
the
other
guys
did
in
the
prison
in
new
york,
there
were
some
brilliant
guys
in
there.
Man
guys
could
think,
and
they
could
write
they
could
they
had
talent,
they
could
write
music.
G
G
If,
if
you're
in
a
gang
situation,
they
throw
all
of
you
in
there
together,
nobody
does
any
profiling
in
terms
of
psychological
needs.
They
don't
give
them
any
educational
resources,
it's
at
the
bottom
of
the
budget.
So
what
do
you
have
coming
back
out
into
our
community?
G
G
G
G
We
don't
encourage
each
other
enough.
We
discourage
each
other
in
different
ways.
Oh
man,
you
don't
want
to
do
that.
Come
on,
go
with
me
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff,
and
you
get
them
right
on
the
brink
of
maybe
making
that
turnaround,
but
when
they
turn
they
go
the
wrong
way
and
they
back
in
jail
with
a
new
charge
and
it's
a
redundant
situation.
They
call
it
recidivism.
G
Our
community
needs
to
be
more
involved
in
the
criminal
justice
system
and
not
relegate
responsibilities
to
this
person
and
that
person
we
need
to
come
together,
because
war
has
been
declared
on
our
young
people
and
our
young
people
have
declared
war
on
each
other.
Whoever
heard
of
somebody
telling
me
that
I
can't
walk
down
the
street
and
I
live
in
a
different
block
than
you-
that's
ridiculous
and
nobody's
getting
up
and
saying
it
hey.
Look.
G
We
gotta
stop
that
we
go
to
the
parents,
the
parents,
you
know
sometimes
that
kid
might
get
hurt,
get
killed
and
they'll
say:
oh
no,
he
was
a
good
kid.
He
wasn't
a
good
kid,
a
lot
of
them
and
because
of
their
behavior,
they
got
knocked
off.
We
got
to
stop
that.
We
have
to
work
to
love
each
other
and
encourage
each
other.
Thank
you.
D
E
Robert
junior,
oh,
okay,
I'm
sorry,
I
got
robbed,
I'm
I
was
looking
at
honestly
doctor.
I
was
looking
at
my
senior
my
elder.
Oh
I'm
sorry
I
was.
I
was
giving
him
that
respect.
You
know,
that's
what
we
do
right.
How
do
we
heal
respect
our
elders
right?
So
hey
brother,
rob
brother
rob.
I
got
number
love.
E
My
apology,
no,
no!
No,
dr
andre!
That's
that
that's
a
great
question
because
I
feel
like
I'm
still
here.
You
know
I
feel,
like
I'm
still
healing
you
know
one
of
the
hardest
things
is
it
feels
at
times
you
know
if
you're
taking
a
step
forward,
then
there's
a
couple
of
steps
back
right.
You
know,
you
know
part
of
the
healing
for
me,
and
tonight
is
a
big
one
too.
It's
it's
this!
It's
this
reminder
and
it's
this
celebration
of
these
brothers
under
zoom.
E
Some
of
the
healing
for
me
is
going
to
come
when
all
of
a
sudden
we're
dealing
with
this,
this
pandemic
of
of
health
and
covet
this
pandemic
of
race,
this
pandemic
of
relationships
amongst
police
and
community
in
and
things
that
should
be
uplifting.
Us
are
those
things
that
are
just
keeping
us
in
this
cycle
in
this
spiral,
and
it's
almost
like
this
spiral.
E
So
for
me
I
get
I
get
healing
and
and
and
it
might
sound
as
simple
as
this
I
get
healing
from
when
I
talk
to
leonard
lee
or
haywood
finale,
and
I
get
healing
when
I
can
talk
to
evangel
and
I
can
talk
to
other
black
men
who
understand
but
are
going
to
also
push
and
push
me
and
as
we're
trying
to
do
our
young
folks,
you
know
to
keep
pushing
forward,
but
I'm
not
gonna
lie
to
you.
E
Man
tonight
is
part
the
healing,
while
what
is
going
on,
but
but
I
but
I
but
I
feel
like,
but
we
have
to
as
hayward
was
saying,
I
want
to
ensure
that
my
young
folks
get
access
to
folks
that
are
here.
My
young
folks
get
access
to
the
dreams
and
the
in
and
the
beliefs
that
so
many
folks
in
this
community
have
in
like
and
wholeheartedly
deserve
wholeheartedly
deserved.
So
so
that's
that's.
E
You
know,
that's
where
I
think
some
of
this
healing
is
gonna
come
from,
and
some
of
it
is
this
healing
and
as
as
brother
brother,
you
know,
brandon
was
saying
it's
it's,
this
peace
coming
to
peace
with
yourself.
It's
his
balance
of
balancing
your
life
and
you
know
in
how
you
live
your
life
and
being
healthy
and
others,
and
also
this
this
this
thing
of
justice
and
justice
for
ourselves
and
justice
for
our
community.
So
you
know
you
know,
I'm
I'm
trying
to
heal
every
day
every
day.
F
I
was
thinking
about
this
question
and-
and
I
guess
you
know
like
we
always
said
it's
really
about
like
hey
what
said
earlier,
you
know
a
lot
of
people
took
a
left.
I'm
sorry
judge
harris
said
you
know
to
they
took
a
left
when
I
took
a
right-
and
I
guess
it's
really
about
taking
that
right.
You
know,
even
when
I
want
to
go
even
even
when
all
of
those
things
happen.
F
You
know,
one
thing
from
the
speaker
was
talking
about
how
you
know
how
how
trauma
affects
and
it
lingers
in
those
four
things,
the
the
fear,
the
shame
the
guilt
and
how
that
manifests
in
and
I
and
our
behavior
and
our
attitude.
F
So
I
I
I
guess
it's
more
the
healing
pieces
when
you
know
someone
that
had
that
that
whatever
they
had
in
them
and
they
learned
to
change-
I
mean
I
guess,
that's
the
healing
and
appreciate
and
acknowledge
that
man
we
we
see
that
you
change.
We
see
that
you're
doing
different.
We
know
you
went
back
to
prison
five
times,
but
this
time
you're
staying
out
here.
F
Okay,
all
right,
I
was
getting
excited,
it's
really
about
acknowledgement.
It's
really
about
building.
Like
we've
been
talking
about
doing
things.
You
know
people
if
we
say
well
what
we're
talking
about
you
guys
are
just
talking
about
it.
Now
we're
living
this.
We
live
in
this
every
single
day
when
the
young
folks,
when
we
can
say
listen,
this
is
we
don't
talk
and
we
just
live
it.
So
I
guess
the
healing
part
is
just
seeing
more
of
us
and
more
of
them
doing
the
right
thing
in
spite
of
all
of
this
stuff.
F
F
I
I
got
to
share
some
one,
one
of
the
so
my
granddaughter
she's
12..
I
took
her
to
one
of
the
biggest
rallies
they
had
this
year
and
it
was
a
francophone
thousands
of
people,
so
it
got
a
little
tense
about
six
o'clock.
I
said,
okay
to
myself,
I
said
honey
you
ready
to
go
man.
I
had
tears
in
my
she
said:
I'm
not
ready
to
go,
I'm
with
my
people,
this
young
girl
relished,
in
that
she
wanted
to
be
a
part
of
something
positive,
no
matter
what
you
know
and
I'm
thinking
man.
F
This
is
getting
a
little
tense
when
she
said
that.
Oh
my
god,
she
said
I'm
with
my
people
and
I
think
more
of
that
about
who
we
are
as
a
people.
Let's
celebrate
that
when
nevada
was
talking
about
human
rights,
what
is
that
about
my
rights
to
be
a
human
to
to
to
you
know
to
to
express
who
I
am,
but
in
a
positive
way,.
D
C
Absolutely
well
first,
we
need
to
understand
that
we
have
to
get
away
from
saying
we're
going
to
heal
and
think
of
it
as
a
destination
and
think
of
it
as
a
journey,
because
it's
an
ongoing
process.
You
know
I
I
tend
to
talk
about
the
four
strategies
to
helping
the
wellness
of
black
men
and
black
boys.
The
first
one
is
allow
boys
to
be
boys.
We
adultify
black
children
period,
but
black
boys.
So
early
they
become
little
man
before
they
can
even
learn
how
to
tie
their
shoe.
C
We
gotta
let
little
boys
be
boys
and
enjoy
that
process.
We
adultify
and
give
responsibilities
and
a
lot
of
that's
due
to
that
survival.
Stress
management
I
was
talking
about,
but
boys
need
to
be
boys
number
two
help
black
boys
and
black
men.
If
you
don't
already
have
it
develop
a
vision,
I
mean
so
many
black
men
who
don't
have
vision,
they
have
fantasies
and
thoughts
of
things
that
are
super
grandiose,
but
a
vision
to
where
you're
going
and
when
you
have
a
vision.
C
That's
how
you
connect
the
purposes
and
things
of
that
nature
number
three
be
direct,
be
a
direct
connection
and
an
indirect
connection.
What
I
mean
by
that
is
a
direct
connection.
Is
black
men
need
apprenticeships
and
mentorship?
We
need
to
be
shown
how
to
do
stuff
right.
Everybody
on
this
panel
has
figured
out
how
to
do
something
in
a
field,
and
we
should
have
at
least
one
black
boy
behind
us
that
understands
the
field
as
well.
C
When
I
originally
went
to
school,
I
really
want
to
be
go
to
school,
to
be
a
dentist
I
didn't
know,
and
the
only
reason
why
I
didn't
know
a
black
dentist
and
I
knew
black
and
I
knew
dennis
made
money
because
I
seen
my
dentist
driving
a
bentley.
So
that's
what
I
said:
I'm
gonna
go
to
school
to
do,
but
I
didn't
know
nothing.
C
So
I
almost
flunked
out
of
college
because
I
had
no
mentors
no
network
just
trying
to
figure
it
out
on
my
own
now
I
probably
could
have
still
became
a
dentist,
but
I
didn't
have
what
I
needed
that
apprentice,
that
apprenticeship
and
then
we
have
to
also
role
model
behaviors
right,
we're
all
in
positions:
black
boys
and
black
men
watch
us
they
respect
us
when
we
show
up
with
them
ties
on
in
them
sports
coats.
We
get
a
different
type
of
attention,
so
we
have
to
be
able
to
stand
in
that
and
model
a
behavior.
C
C
They
see
the
negative
impacts
of
what
they
produce,
but
when
they
do
something
good,
we
don't
give
them
the
credit,
and
we
have
to
be
able
to
help
facilitate
an
environment
where
we
can
help
them
celebrate
those
small
victories
and
see
that
they
do
also
have
a
constructive
impact
in
the
world
and
I'll
pause.
There.
D
B
As
as
is
thank
you
thank
you,
doctor
honestly,
I
I
was
willing
to
just
let
the
experts
speak
on
this,
but
but
you
know
I
I,
when
I
think
about
healing,
as
I
approach
40
years
old,
you
know,
I
think
about
taking
time
off.
I
think
about
you
know,
to
be
honest,
praying
and
and
being
vulnerable
with
my
wife.
If
you
will,
I
think
about
talking
about
the
struggles
and
the
trauma
that
I
suffered.
B
You
know
I
I,
for
instance,
did
not
become
a
black
man
if
you
will,
until
I
was
15
years
old
right,
because
I
was
born
in
a
black
country
and
and
just
only
saw
black
people
right,
race
was
not
a
thing
in
fact,
leonard
lee-
and
I
spoke
about
this
not
too
long
ago
right,
I
was
born
some
of
you
know
this.
B
I
was
born
in
cape
verde
islands
and
lost
my
father
at
11
years
old,
right
and
and
came
here
at
15
years
old
and
in
dorchester,
going
to
madison
park
just
trying
to
figure
out
language
basic
survival
skills
at
the
same
time
being
influenced
by
things
that
were
beyond
me
that
I
didn't
understand.
Right
that
that
landed,
some
of
my
closest
friends
deported
and
killed,
two
cave
inc
killed
in
caverd,
right
and
and
so
when
I
think
about
trauma
and
the
experiences
I've
had
and
obviously
you
know
I'm
an
attorney.
B
I
went
to
howard
university
school
of
law
and
and
I
I
to
some
extent
consider
myself
a
privilege,
a
privileged
black
man,
because
I,
albeit
you
know,
as
as
many
of
you
said,
I'm
not
the
only
one,
there's
500
500
of
me
of
me,
but
it
is,
you
know
it
is.
I
was
that
close,
essentially
to
not
be
in
this
panel
right,
as
so
many
of
you
indicated
right,
and
so
when
I,
when
we
were
talking
about
this
this
panel
discussion
and
putting
this
event
together,
just
hearing
judge
leslie
talk
about
his
experience.
B
I
mean
this
man
is
phenomenal
right
and
he's
been
a
mentor
to
me
and
here
his
experience
at
being
stabbed
right,
his
experience
being
a
judge
and
dealing
with
some
of
the
stuff
that
I
see
in
my
own
capacity
right.
So
I
think,
as
as
brenda
you
said,
really
is
a
journey
right.
It's
a
journey
to
sort
of
get
that
space
to
understand.
It's.
B
Okay,
right,
it's,
okay,
that
you
went
through
whatever
it
is
that
you
went
through
as
a
black
man
in
this
country
and
how
you
heal
how
you
treat
your
my
little
two
girls
that
I
have
at
home
right
was
screaming
downstairs.
All
of
that
goes
into
this
healing
right.
You
know,
as
as
I
said,
I'm
privileged
to
say
that
I've
had
significant
roles.
If
you
will,
I
was
a
prosecutor,
I
was
a
state
rep.
You
know,
I'm
doing
I'm
the
idea
of
this
thing
now
right.
B
It's
all
great
things
by
any
measure,
if
you
will,
but
really
nothing
is
better
nothing's,
more
healing,
if
you
will
than
you
know
that
kiss
from
that
little
girl
right
that,
in
fact,
just
the
other
day
I
was
putting
my
five-year-old
to
bed,
she
refused
to
go
to
bed
and
until
until
I
put
her
to
bed,
she
says
you
know
daddy.
I
look
up
to
you
right
that
moment.
That's
a
healing
moment
right,
because
it's
just
it's
pulling
it's
it's
making
me
vulnerable
as
as
a
black
man.
That's
that's
thick
skin.
B
If
you
will
right,
that's
used
to
sort
of
bend.
You
know
that
walk
around
with
that
with
that
chip
on
your
shoulder,
if
you
will
right
so,
but
I'm
healing,
as
as
I
get
older
and
older,
I
read
I
in
fact
I
meditate
I
I
do
yoga.
B
I
did
yoga
today
right,
so
I'm
not
I'm
not
ashamed
to
say
that,
so
I
look
for
spaces
that
helps
me
sort
of
get
in
the
comfortable
sk,
with
my
skin
as
I
age
as
a
black
man
right
that
I
have
this
this
thick
hair
right
that
I
can
grow
right
so,
but
you
know
it's
so
so
much
too
packed
that
I
think
just
talking
about
it
just
being
a
space
with
each
other
and
learning
that
again
others,
particularly
as
this
space
or
leonard
leo
judge,
leslie
I've
gone
through
even
worse,
things
that
I
have
and
I'm
like.
B
I
see
some
folks
supreme
richard
richardson,
the
man
he's
he's
east
commons
and
I
see
other
people
commenting
so
hopefully
in
the
next
five
or
ten
minutes.
We
can
bring
some
of
them
to
talk
about
what
they're
going
through
as
well
and
that's
helped.
All
of
us
drive
this
topic
forward,
but
thank
you
doctor
for
bringing
me
in,
but
I'm
I'm
happy
to
just
kind
of
you
know
witness
all
this
this
glorious
things
that
are
happening
in
front
of
me.
So
thank
you.
You're.
D
Most
welcome,
and
this
is,
I
feel,
like
I'm
being
nurtured
every
time.
I'm
hearing
every
voice
come
through
we're
we're
closing
in
on
the
end
of
this
portion
of
our
event,
I
want
to
bring
some
of
the
last
words
from
our
elder
statesman
here
and
ask
hayward.
Do
you
want
to
end
us
with
a
few
comments
and
then
I'll
ask
judge
harris
to
say
a
few
words
be
glad.
G
To
well,
first
of
all,
again
I
want
to
thank
the
commission
for
inviting
me
here
with
these
distinguished
gentlemen
and
to
thank
brandon
for
bringing
in
some
beautiful
thoughts,
because
we
definitely
have
to
change
our
thinking,
because
if
we
don't
change
our
thinking,
we're
gonna
keep
on
sinking
and
that's
not
what
we're
all
about.
G
We
must
connect
spiritually
more
than
ever
now,
because
it's
very
important
that
we
don't
get
it
twisted
and
think
that
we
can
live
in
a
system
full
of
flaws
where
our
children
have
become
prey
for
the
justice
department
or
the
criminal
justice
department.
We
must
save
our
children,
because
that
is
all
we
have.
That
is
our
future.
G
G
We
have
to
begin
to
believe
in
ourselves
and,
like
brandon
was
saying,
we
have
to
be
more
resilient
in
how
we
think
about
ourselves
as
leaders,
because
the
thing
about
having
just
one
in
a
corporate
america
is
not
going
to
work.
We
have
to
begin
to
think
to
have
our
own,
and
I
remember
one
time
robert
lewis
jr
was
telling
me
about
the
number
of
non-profits
in
our
community,
and
it
was
a
high
number.
G
That's
not
how
we
are
supposed
to
address
our
elders,
because
if
I
would
have
done
that,
my
grandmother
would
have
had
something
to
say
about
that,
and
so
I'm
here
tonight,
because
I
respect
people
like
I
said,
I'm
recovering
every
day
every
day
is
different
and
I'm
just
so
happy
to
have
been
here
today
with
people
that
know
me
and
know
that
I
don't
mind
struggling
if
it's
for
the
right
thing.
Thank.
H
Harris,
yes,
sir,
you
know
I've
been
thinking
about
this
and,
as
we
were
planning
this
event
and
listening
tonight,
there's
so
many
things
that
went
through
my
mind
that
I
could
talk
for
the
next
hour.
Being
a
lawyer
that
comes
natural
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
am
proud
about
is
that
I
can
step
aside.
You
know
I'm
a
senior
now,
and
there
are
so
many
of
you,
young
men
and
women
in
the
community
who
are
stepping
up.
H
You
know
a
couple
of
years
ago
we
had
a
celebration
at
northwestern
university
about
1968
takeover
at
the
school.
We
changed
the
course
of
what
northwestern
is.
You
know
I
didn't
get
to
the
reunion,
and
I
regret
that,
but
I
had
other
things
going
on,
but
I
know
that
young
people
are
now
stepping
up.
You
know,
I
know
who
supreme
is.
I
know
that
he's
going
to
be
out
there
fighting
this
fight.
H
You
know,
I
know
that
evandro
is
learning
this
being
a
you
know,
director
of
a
human
rights
commission,
but
that
his
heart
is
in
the
right
place
and
that
he's
putting
forth
the
effort
to
help
our
community.
I
know
both
roberts,
both
robin
lewis's.
You
know,
then
I
claim
both
of
you,
because
I
know
that
you're
making
a
difference
in
our
community.
H
So
as
I
get
older-
and
I
I'm
happy
because
I
never
expected
to
get
to
be
this
age.
To
be
honest,
so
I
feel
blessed
that
these
are
my
bonus
years
and
I
want
to
use
them
to
lead
something
I
want
to
leave.
You
know
a
legacy
of
effort
to
improve
my
community
and
to
address
issues
like
trauma
within
my
community
to
stand
against
the
negative
painting
of
my
community.
H
H
You
know.
I
hear
that
too
often
in
our
community
for
young
black
children.
I
thought
what
they
can't
do,
but
I
celebrate
all
of
you
and
those
who
took
the
time
to
come
and
listen
to
this
discussion,
because
it
shows
that
we
have.
We
have
a
community
that
can
make
the
change,
and
I
I
am
here-
I
you
know
I
you
know-
I
worked
with
the
program
called
the
people's
academy.
H
That's
trying
to
train
our
young
people,
people
who
have
had
issues
in
their
life
to
be
able
to
earn
a
living.
That
should
be
the
simplest
thing
to
do.
He
should
be
able
to
open
that
school
tomorrow,
but
he
won't
unless
we
get
behind
him
and
work
on
it.
I
looked
at
people
like
robin
lewis,
who
took
our
young
people
to
give
them
not
just
baseball
skills
but
life
skills,
and
it
means
something
to
me,
and
so
I
I
thank
you
all
for
taking
part
in
this.
H
H
So
you
know
I
thank
you
and
I
just
want
to
let
all
of
you
know
that
I
love
being
on
human
rights
commission.
I'm
glad
that
we're
doing
this
and
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
do
a
lot
more.
E
The
only
thing
I'm
going
to
say
you
know
what
I
love
about
tonight's
zoom
and
all
of
our
community
and
all
the
black
men
and
women
that
are
following
this.
We
don't
have
to
wait
until
february
black
history
month
to
see
a
group
of
black
men
come
together
and
we
have
to
stop
thinking
february
is
the
time
to
bring
us
out
right.
We
got
to
stop
that
and
we
can
be
black.
History
is
every
day
and,
let's
just
make
sure
we're
celebrating
it.
E
F
I
guess
I
want
to.
I
don't
know
if
we
get
another
chance,
but
I
just
had
to
bring
this
up
last
july
we
did
linda-
and
I
put
on
put
put
together
a
black
man's
march
in
healing
rally,
and
I
think
about
you
know
this
this
panel.
I
think
about
the
thoughts
and
I
guess
the
the
healing
part,
because
we
got
a
couple
of
phone
calls
saying
man.
Why
did
you
have
to
call
it
black?
F
Why
didn't
you
call
it
this
and
your
color
and
different
things
like
that?
So
I'm
hoping
this
conversation
lends
to
the
fact
of
who
we
are
as
black
men
in
the
healing
piece
to
be
able
to
do
that.
Walk
with
my
son
with
with
black
men
in
the
community,
and
we
had
calls
on
you
know,
women
were
calling
up
or
why
couldn't
we
be
a
part
of
it
and
different
things
like
that?
We
said
sisters,
we
love
you,
we
love,
we
love
you,
but
be
there
at
the
end
and
support
us.
F
Let
us
do
this:
just
black
men
and
black
boys
together,
we
walked.
It
was
probably
one
of
the
hottest
days
lyndon
right.
One
of
the
hottest
days
of
the
year
and
we
walk
from
washington
park
mall
all
the
way
to
the
other
side
of
chatting
and
you
talking
about
healing.
Oh,
it
was
an
unbelievable
feeling,
because
when
we
came
around
that
bend
there
were
women
there,
cheering
us
on
clapping
and
oh
it
was.
It
was
an
unbelievable
feeling.
Yeah
I
get
a
little
emotional
this
this
was.
This
was
powerful.
F
D
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
rob
thank
you,
so
we're
going
to
move
this
to
bring
the
audience
into
these
into
this
discussion
and
answer
some
of
the
questions
that
they
have
in
the
in
the
background
and
I'm
going
to
partner
with
susan
henley,
our
other
leader
in
this
group
and
helping
this
event
happen
so
susan,
why
don't
you
start
with
the
first
question.
A
Sure
so
anybody
who
would
like
to
make
a
comment
or
a
question
can
raise
their
hand
because
of
time
restrictions.
You
do
have
one
minute.
So
I'm
going
to
time
you
so
you
can
put
your
question
or
comment
in
the
chat
or
raise
your
hand.
We
do
have
a
couple.
Let
me
just
grow
up.
J
That's
very
interesting,
like
I,
I
grew
up
in
housing
development.
I
think
I
lived
in
every
single
one
from
academy
to
columbia,
point
of
franklin
field,
but
it
was
interesting.
I
I
I
also
go
visit
norfolk
prison
once
a
month
and
talk
to
brothers
there
to
encourage
them
to.
Let
them
know,
there's
really
not
a
difference
between
me
and
them
other
than
some
bars,
and
it
was.
It
was
quite
interesting.
A
brother
said
to
me.
J
Well
leonard,
you
know
you
are
you
lived
on
the
second
floor
and
I
lived
on
the
third
floor.
We
still
you
stole
cars
and
I
stole
cars,
but
I'm
in
norfolk
and
you're
not-
and
I
said
to
him
I
said
timmy,
you
know
what
the
difference
is.
Remember
that
time
you
guys
broke
in
that
house
and
I
was
outside,
and
I
said
you
know
what
I
think
my
mother's
calling
me.
J
It
was
a
split
decision
I
made
in
a
matter
of
seconds
that
changed
my
life.
That's
with
judge
harris,
as
he
was
talking
about
that
decision
that
he
made.
I
made
a
decision
at
that
time
not
to
go
into
that
house.
They
were
arrested
and
and
then
their
whole
life
after
that
fell
into
crime.
But
you
know,
one
of
the
things
that
I
try
to
share
with
people
is
that
there's
really
no
difference
between
I'm,
not
some
magical
person
and
a
lot
of
areas.
J
A
lot
of
a
lot
of
young
brothers
that
I
grew
up
with
they
excelled
in
school.
They
were
honor
rolls
and
and
a
and
b
students-
and
I
was
the
one
in
7f
and
7g.
I
guess
I
guess
I
would
have
been
special
needs
if
it
was
today.
J
But
the
difference
was,
I
never
thought
there
was
something
I
could
not
do
so
I
find
it
really
interesting
when
people
ask
that
question.
What's
the
difference
between
going
right
or
going
left,
sometimes
it's
a
matter
of
a
second
and
I
did
have
a
caring
person
in
my
life.
I
had
someone
who,
who
thought
more
of
me
than
I
thought
of
myself
that
helped
me
make
a
decision
and
the
next
split
in
that
split
second
of
me
saying:
should
I
go
into
the
house,
or
should
I
be
the
lookout?
J
No,
I
hear
my
mother
calling
me.
Let
me
go
made
all
the
difference
in
the
world.
H
H
H
You
know,
and
he
called
me,
and
he
told
me
what
he
would
do
to
me
if
I
missed
another
day
of
life
of
school
and
he
didn't
say
things
that
he
didn't
mean
and
I
was
afraid
of
it,
and
so
I
went
to
school
and
as
a
result,
I
was
there
when
they
came
looking
for
black
students
to
go
to
northwestern.
H
H
You
know,
but
they
said
I
had
more
than
that
and
they
didn't.
Let
me
fail,
so
I'm
just
trying
to
pay
it
back.
I've
tried
to
mentor.
I've
tried
to
lift
up.
I
tried
to
encourage
young
people
to
be
more
than
who
they
think
they
are,
and
I
think
it's
important
that
we
all
do
that
that
we
all
grab
focus
somebody
to
bring
along
on
this
journey
to
make
a
difference
in
their
life.
I
would
have
taken
that
left.
H
D
Thank
you.
I'm
gonna
first
ask
rob
senior
to
answer
this
question
and
then
rob
jr
supreme
richardson
says
I
see
a
lot
of
black
power.
How
will
this
power
be
used
to
change
our
community.
F
These
things
like
this,
you
know
what
you
we
just
mentioned.
Judge
harris
talked
about
someone
believing
me
when
you
know
before
I
even
believed
in
myself
when
I
first
started
my
program,
I
started
with
you
know:
nickels
and
dimes
brother
haywood,
phil,
now
believed
in
me.
So
when
I
wanted
to
give
up
man
when
we
had
two
nickels
rubbed
together
to
take
kids
just
to
go
to
mcdonald's
after
practice,
that
brother
would
come
out
of
his
shoe
almost
and
give
me
some
dollars.
F
So
to
me,
that's
that's
the
power
of
believing
in
each
other,
believing
in
people's
vision
and
that's
the
whole
power
of
what
we
as
black
men,
believing
in
other
people's
visions
rob
helped
me
my
first
proposal.
It
was
a
I
used
to
scratch
on
paper,
so
I
can
look
at
experience
of
what
black
power
means
to
myself
and
to
other
people
being
able,
like
someone
mentioned
earlier,
having
them
young
folks
around
us
watching
us
grow
watching
the
steps
and
the
struggles
that
we've
had
to
me.
F
That's
black
power,
that's
unity
in
the
face
of
all
of
this
trauma
like
let's
get
back
and
face
of
all
in
the
in
the
face
of
all
of
this
peace.
To
me,
that's
black
power.
E
You
know
it's,
it's
also
about
being
intentional,
it's
it's
about
being
intentional,
and
when
I,
when
I
start
to
think
about
you
know,
we
talk
about
black
power,
it
it's
hayward
fennell
who
came
in
in
hayward
fennell.
It
was
his
books
that
we
distributed
to
our
young
folks
to
read,
but
they
could
see
hayward.
It
was
leonard
lee
when
we
did
our
big
mlk
event
in
his
facility
that
we
had
lennon
due
to
welcome.
You
know
some
of
it
is.
How
are
we
positioning
our
folks?
E
The
chair
of
my
board
is
is:
is
black
my
co?
The
ceo
is,
is
black,
we're
intentional?
It's
intentional
about
celebrating
you
know
our
folks.
We
have
to
tell
the
great
story,
see
what
what
rob,
what
rob
lewis
doesn't
say
is
rob
lewis
you
look
at
today,
but
back
in
the
day,
rob
lewis
was
the
baddest
basketball
player
like
in
this
state
that
brother
can
roll,
but
I'm
being
serious,
but
we
got
to
tell
the
story
of
where
rob
was
where
he
grew
up
and
look
at
him.
Now
we
got
to
tell
those
stories.
E
We
got
to
tell
the
stories
and
again
I'm
going
to
say
with
the
utmost
respect.
Dr
andre
judge
harris
you
know.
Brandon
jones
is
the
keynote
speaker.
So
when
I
think
of
our
black
power
is
we
have
to
be
intentional
of
celebrating
the
greatness.
You
know
that
comes
along
with
us
and
not
being
afraid
to
acknowledge
it.
Oh
that
there's
some
stuff
that
we
we
still
have
to
push
forward,
but
but
man
be
proud,
be
proud
of
who
we
are
and
celebrate
it.
E
A
We
have
another
question
from
chriselle:
I'm
sorry,
I'm
really
bad
at
pronunciation.
If
I
get
the
name
wrong,
but
I
absolutely
agree
with
the
mention
that
black
boys
and
men
need
mentors
that
help
them
navigate
their
experiences
in
the
world.
I'm
wondering
how
black
women
can
assist
in
facilitating
healing
for
black
boys
and
men.
How
can
black
women
be
incorporated
in
healing
and
helping
black
boys
and
men.
C
Most
of
the
black
boys
that
came
to
me
came
by
when
many
of
the
black
men
came
by
way
of
a
black
woman.
So
black
women
are
already
investing
in
this
healing
process
of
black
males,
but
I
do
think
one
of
the
things
that
needs
to
be
done
from
a
black
woman's
standpoint
is
also
being
those
role
models,
because
a
lot
of
black
women
are
in
great
positions
that
can
show
something
to
a
black
male.
I
think
we
have
this
assumption
that
only
black
men
can
help
black
men
develop
and
that's
not
necessarily
true.
C
We
need
good
people
who
are
you
know,
standing
on
principle
and
showing
something
different
and
also
listening
and
helping
kind
of
activate
and
provide
vision
to
black
males.
It
is
helpful
for
another
black
male
to
see
it
because
they
identify
just
on
a
gender
basis.
But
don't
just
assume
that,
because
you're,
a
black
woman
that
you're
not
doing
those
things.
G
Well,
I
just
want
to
I
want
to.
I
want
to
just
kind
of
cap
on
what
you're
saying
there,
because
my
mother
was
a
woman,
and
my
mother
was
my
first
friend,
but
I
want
to
tell
you
about
my
wife
who
passed
two
years
ago
and
this
month
january
and
throughout
my
addiction
and
going
to
the
penitentiary,
etc.
G
We
had
six
children
and
my
oldest
son
haywood.
He
died,
but
today
one
of
my
daughters
is
a
principal
of
a
school
in
elementary
school
in
the
bronx.
The
other
works
at
records
island,
the
other
one.
My
son
is
a
sanitation
worker
and
my
other
daughter
works
for
the
board
of
education,
all
the
city
of
new
york-
and
I
have
another
daughter,
that's
at
home,
and
she
takes
care
of
her
nieces
and
nephews
when
they
get
out
of
school.
G
So
my
wife,
all
the
attention
purposes
she
raised.
She
raised
my
my
family.
She
raised
them,
you
know
and
a
lot
of
times
our
men,
for
whatever
reason,
don't
recognize
the
power
of
the
woman
and
if
they
could
come
together
more,
you
know,
we'd
be
a
stronger
people,
but
a
long
time
ago
I
stopped
using
that
b
word
around
our
women.
G
You
know
that
that's
one
of
the
things
that
they
still
do
and
there's
a
lot
of
disharmony
among
our
men
and
and
women
is
because
they
don't
want
to
get
a
woman
of
credit
for
what
she's
done
and
she's
done
a
lot
because
she
gave
us
birth
everybody
on
this
panel,
especially
robert
lewis,
jr.
I
knew
his
mother
and
I
knew
his
mother
after
the
fire
when
they
got
bombed
out
in
maverick
housing
project
in
east
boston.
G
J
J
My
mother
said
to
me
always
become
friends
with
another
man,
even
though
I
had
other
brothers
and
so
for
me,
it
was
like
how
can
I
be
around
men
strong
or,
if
not
stronger,
than
the
women
who
raised
me.
So
I
give
a
tribute
to
women
every
single
day
this
this
this
forum,
that
we're
having
now
is
a
tribute
to
black
women,
because,
as
we
heal
ourselves,
we
will
be
better
fathers,
better
providers,
better
community,
folks,
better
husbands,
better
boyfriends.
J
So
I
I
I
give
tribute
to
the
the
six
women
who
raised
me
and
all
the
other
women
who
are
raising
children
nine
times
out
of
ten
by
themselves,
and
it's
not
easy
but
we're
all
products
of
a
proud,
strong,
determined
women
who've
done
things
that
are
unspeakable
in
some.
In
some
instances
for
the
betterment
of
us,
so
I
will
never
allow
anyone
to
take
away
the
beauty,
the
strength
and
the
courage
and
the
tenacity
of
black
women
in
this
country,
because
what
they
have
sacrificed
for
me
is
it's
just
incredible.
J
A
We
do
have
an
individual
raising
their
hand,
I'm
gonna
time
you
just
because
of
time.
Restrictions
you'll
have
one
minute,
starting
now.
G
Oh,
let
me
just
tell
you
about
together
we
eat
as
a
program,
that's
being
founded.
It's
been
founded
by
my
good
friend,
charles
charles
lesser.
Then
I
told
you
about
him
up
in
worcester
and
he's
he's
using
water
to
create
urban
farming
for
communities
that
can't
feed
themselves,
and
he
also
like
you,
robert.
He
has
an
educational
component.
G
You
know
and
they're
trying
to
teach
the
community
folks
how
to
feed
themselves,
because
if
you
got
an
empty
stomach,
nobody
wants
to
hear
anything
until
their
stomach
gets
filled
up,
and
so
charles
has
done
a
lot
in
worcester
and
I've
been
going
back
and
forth
mentoring
him
and
he's
got
it
going
on
his
program
is
gonna
work.
You
know
it's
doing.
What
do
you
call
it?
What's
the
word
for
water,
hydro,
hydro,
yeah,.
H
G
Using
water
to
grow
the
plant
in
instead
of
the
dirt,
that's
what
he's
doing
so.
We.
D
Love
you,
you
want
to
say
your
question
out
loud.
What
I'm
asking
that
together
we
eat
is
this
charles,
do
you
want
to
ask
a
question.
K
Okay,
I
had
the
microphone
on
I'm
sorry
about
that,
hey,
charles!
How
are
you
heywood?
My
question
is,
first
of
all,
I'd
like
to
thank
you
guys.
This
is
a
beautiful
opportunity
for
me
to
see
more
brothers,
because
it's
not
that
many
of
us
in
worcester,
as
you
all
know,
but
my
question
is:
how
do
we
help
with
the
trauma
and
the
economic
trauma
in
our
communities
with
the
lack
of
opportunities.
C
D
I
would
I
would
say
I
mean
just
as
a
one
consideration
the
the
the
discussion
of
telling
our
stories
over
and
over
again
is
a
critical
element,
and
now
it's
about
being
strategic
about
telling
our
stories
and
getting
in
front
of
decision
makers
to
help
them
understand
the
value
that
black
men
bring
to
communities
across
this
country.
D
The
idea
that
we
have
been
told
to
shut
up
for
a
long,
long
time,
now's
the
time
to
tell
the
stories
of
our
success,
tell
the
stories
of
our
values
to
tell
the
stories
of
our
work
ethic
and
just
tell
the
stories
of
our
commitment
to
family
and
community,
and
that
we
all
we
need
is
a
little
added
help.
An
investment
given
the
decades
centuries
of
disinvestment.
D
Now
is
the
time
to
get
to
get
get
some
payback
on
that,
so
that
we
can
contribute
in
all
kinds
of
ways.
Anyone
else
want
to
take
that
question.
Yeah
I'll.
J
I
know
haywood
does
that.
I
know
a
judge
harris
does
that.
I
think
we
need
to
be
deliberate
of
creating
opportunities
for
our
people,
as
others
do
and
I'm
not
trying
to
I'm
pleased.
I
don't
want
anyone
coming
off
and
saying:
oh
leonard
wants
to
discriminate
because
I'm
a
jewish
white
man
he's
a
black
man
watching
it.
No
I'm
not
saying
that
at
all.
J
All
I'm
saying
is
give
that
opportunity
and
in
the
work
that
that
person
put
in
and
he's
a
person
of
color
and
deal
with
them
from
an
equal
plane
and
giving
them
that
opportunity
and
if,
if,
if
also,
I
think
we
have
an
obligation
to
mentor
to
embrace
to
love
and
to
teach
black
males
of
being
the
examples
that
we
need
to
be
so
we
can
create
the
opportunity
and
we
have
created
the
opportunities
we
just
have
to
continue.
J
So
we
can
have
a
ripple
effect,
so
it
can
go
on
and
on
and
on
and
on
again
one
of
the
things
that-
and
I
know
all
the
panelists
know
this-
there
was
a
brother
who
was
a
lawyer
and,
and
he
wind
up
committing
suicide
because
he
did
everything
right
and
they
still
didn't
give
him
his
cross.
He
did
everything
princeton
exceptional
law
firm,
he
did
everything
and
he
never
gave
him
partner
and
they
it
came
up,
didn't
even
partner
because
he
was
an
african-american
man.
D
Me,
let
me
just
say
thank
you,
I'm
going
to
get
one
more
voice
in
before
we
finish
this
section
section
of
the
thing.
Excuse
me
one.
Second,
susan,
you
want
to
pull
one
more
voice
in
yes,.
A
A
I
So
so
this
is
powerful.
I've
been
listening
since
the
beginning,
robert
lewis
is
my:
is
my
father?
What
you
guys
are
called
a
senior
my
father,
so
this
this
is
very
impactful
and
powerful.
I
appreciate
everyone.
That's
on
the
line
and
one
question
I
had
is:
I
talked
to
a
lot
of
young
people
and
what
what
they
kind
of
described
to
me
is.
They
have
all
these
things
that
they
want
to
do
and
I'm
sure
you
as
well.
I
Everyone
on
the
call
has
had
times
where
you
have
these
ideas
and
they
fail
and
you
continue
to
fail
and
continue
to
fail
and
a
lot
of
people
that
have
seen
someone
as
successful
seem
to
feel
that
they
never
failed,
and
so,
if
you
guys
can
just
talk
about
times
where
maybe
you've
dealt
with
adversity,
but
you
had
a
breaking
point.
What
was
that
breaking
point
where
you
said
I'm
not
going
to
take
no
for
an
answer.
I
I'm
going
to
do
this,
I'm
going
to
make
sure
that
I
pursue
my
purpose
and
what
continue
to
drive
you
to
never
give
up.
And
how
do
you
get
that
message
out
to
the
masses.
G
Well,
look,
I
just
can
I
just
say
something
because
I
I
remember
when
I
wrote.
I
wrote
this
play
about
the
harlem
renaissance
and
you
know,
and
and
and
I
went
to
these
philanthropic
organizations
and
they
were
telling
me
to
say
oh,
this
is
great.
This
is
wonderful,
but
we're
not
funding
this
and
I
went
to
a
lot
of
places
and
robert
lewis
jr.
He
was
at
the
boston
foundation.
He
gave
us
some
money
right,
but
listen
when
you
have
a
dream.
G
G
G
We
don't
own
a
grocery
store,
we
don't
own
anything
and
we
need
to
change
that
and
the
only
way
that
we
can
do
that
is
we
got
to
go
in
our
pocket.
Put
that
money
together
with
a
plan
go
to
that
bank
and
tell
that
bank.
We
got
some
money
and
we
want
to
do
this,
otherwise
we're
going
to
still
be
waiting
for
the
crumbs
from
the
bombs.
Thank
you.
D
A
Well,
can
I
just
interject
for
one
moment
sorry,
the
chairwoman
of
the
boston
human
rights
commission,
margaret
mckenna,
is
on.
She
has
raised
her
hands
for
just
one
moment
just
so
she
can
get
a
couple
words
in.
L
Sure,
just
let
me
say
thank
you.
This
was
tremendous.
I
really
appreciate
all
of
you
participating
not
just
participating,
giving
us
not
just
your
time,
but
your
wisdom
and
your
soul.
I
mean
it
was
very
meaningful.
I
think,
for
so
many
people
and
to
have
you
all
together,
as
as
brandon
said
someone
he
said
not
just
in
black
history
month,
which
is
so
different
for
all
of
us.
You
know
I'm.
I
was
a
college
president
and
that's
oh,
you
know
it
was
always
february
right.
So
it's
january,
thank
god.
L
It's
january,
you
know,
and-
and
I
hope
people
are
hearing
this
because
it
it's
it's-
it's
just
so
important
for
people
to
to
come
together
and-
and
it's
such
an
important
time
in
history
now
in
our
country,
in
our
state
and
in
our
city-
and
I
and
I
hear
such
concern
in
our
city,
because
there
are
people
of
color
who
are
running
for
mayor
and
serious
candidates
and
what
I'm
hearing
from
the
powerful
white
business
community
is.
They
are
very,
very
nervous.
L
This
is
like
a
boston
thing,
but
I'm
hoping
that
the
communities
of
color
and
some
of
us
were
a
little
more
progressive
and
want
to
see
the
systematic
racism
in
the
schools
and
in
housing
and
in
transportation,
really
be
taken
on
in
serious
ways
that
we
see
a
sort
of
quite
dramatic
change
and
not
let
the
same
group
of
people
interrupt
this
this
election
and
have
significant
control
over
the
next
10
years,
like
they've,
had
over
the
last
30
years.
L
So
I'm
inspired
by
tonight
and
judge
harris
and
I
are
in
the
same
age
group.
I
want
to
say
out
of
the
60s
I'm
one
of
those
people
who
has
never
given
up,
but
I'm
ready
to
move
aside,
I'm
ready
to
sign
and
let
somebody
take
over
but
judge
harris.
We
have
to
have
good
people
take
over.
So
thank
you
all
for
what
you
do
in
the
mentoring
you
do
and
and
if
people
weren't
inspired
by
tonight,
they're
dead
or
our
sleep.
So
thank
you.
D
B
Thank
you
doctor,
and
I
certainly
want
to
say
thank
you
to
all
the
panelists
that
take
the
time
to
be
with
us
today,
as,
as
the
chairwoman
said,
mckenna
said,
I
think,
honestly
from
all
the
perspective
that
you
heard
you
have
to
be
inspired
to
pick
up
something
and
move
on
with
this
with
the
subject,
and
in
light
of
that,
actually,
we,
the
commission,
has
some
ideas
in
terms
of
what
we
want
to
keep
doing
in
this
space
I'll.
B
I
definitely
want
to
invite
the
two
commissioners
thank
you
leonard
lee
and
judge
harris
who
spearheaded
this
this
initiative.
I
want
to
give
them
last
words,
and
hopefully
again,
we
can
convene
in
some
space,
particularly
as
covet,
hopefully
dies
down,
hopefully
we'll
be
in
in
a
room
together
in
continued
discussion
and
how
we
can
continue
to
to
you
know,
discuss
the
marginalization
of
black
men,
the
trauma
that
we
experience
and,
more
importantly,
the
healing
that
we
need
as
a
people
so
well
without
further
ado.
I
love
to
give
judge.
B
Harry's
has
done
some
of
this,
but
I
would
love
to
give
both
of
them
again
leonard
lee
as
well
as
judge
harris.
You
know
some
closing
remarks
of
any
potential.
You
know
inspire
people
for
next
steps,
and
thank
you
again
for
moderating
this.
Thank
you
all
of
you,
panelists
for
participating.
Thank
you.
H
So
I'll
start
by
saying
thank
you.
I
looked
at
the
participants
and
I
saw
area
codes
from
outside
of
boston.
People
have
participated.
I
I
this
is
a
national
issue.
You
know
we're
talking
about
boston
and
our
community,
but
our
community
is
all
of
the
world
and
I
thank
you
all
for
taking
part
I'm
inspired.
H
I
know
that
we
can
move
on
and
do
some
great
things
together.
I
think
we
can
make
a
difference
and
that's
what
I
want
us
to
do.
I
think
that
this
is
the
first,
the
hope
of
a
continuing
conversation
that
we'll
expand
it
and
include
others
to
help
us
on
this
journey
and
brandon.
Thank
you
so
so
very
much
you're
inspiring
and
I
I
know
we
chose
right
and
getting
you
so
thank
you.
Lee
is
owned
to
you.
J
Well,
first
and
foremost,
you
know
I
I
want
to.
I
want
to
thank
susan
for
all
her
her
support
and
work
of
helping
putting
us
to
putting
this
together.
As
all
the
panelists
know,
when
you're
putting
something
like
this
together,
it's
behind
the
scenes
that
make
it
work
and
she's
just
done
an
exemplary
job
in
this
whole
piece
with.
J
That
being
said,
I
also
would
like
to
mention
I
think
of
when
I
was
in
undergrad,
and
I
read
this
book-
countering
countering
the
conspiracy
to
destroy
black
boys,
like
when's,
that
conducive
ahead
of
his
time
same
issue
from
1619
to
2021,
we're
still
having
the
same
discussion
about
the
focus
on
the
destruction
of
the
black
male
I.e,
black
female
id
black
children
id
black
community,
one
of
the
things
that
has
been
so
refreshing
for
me
to
be
in
a
room
with
black
men
to
talk
about
things
that
we
experience
that
are
very
similar.
J
J
It's
so
comforting
to
talk
to
brothers
like
heywood
robert
robert
vandro,
craig
judge,
harris
brandon,
and
here
we're
nowhere
near
each
other,
but
here's
similar
stories
of
experiences
that
they
had,
and
it
confirms
that
I'm
not
crazy,
I'm
not
insane.
J
I,
I
am
an
intelligent
person
because
they're
experiencing
the
same
thing,
so
I
encourage
other
men
of
color
and
it
has
nothing
to
do
with.
What's
in
your
bank
account,
it
has
to
do
with
you
being
a
person,
a
human
being,
that
you
experience
things
and
being
able
to
talk
to
other
brothers
to
confirm
that
they're,
not
crazy,
because
you
have
a
love
for
your
family.
You
have
a
love
for
your
children.
You
have
a
love
for
men
telling
another
man
that
I
love.
J
You
is
not
something
to
be
afraid
of,
so
this,
for
me,
has
been
emotional.
It's
been
uplifting
and
it
it
helps
to
create
promise.
So
you
know
I
want
to
thank
our
chairwoman
for
for
understanding
and
seeing
the
vision
that
that
we
saw
in
terms
of
putting
this,
and
this
is
being
a
beginning
of
having
a
continuing
discussion
of
healing
of
black
men
as
we
deal
with
the
craziness
that
we're
dealing
with
from
our
national
perspective
from
a
local
perspective.
J
And
yes,
I
I
think
chairman
mckenna
was
right
on
point
saying:
people
are
scared
or
nervous
when
they
hear
that
it's
a
possibility
that
black
people
may
be
in
charge.
J
But
if
you
know
your
history,
every
time
we've
been
in
charge,
we
turned
it
out
think
of
tulsa,
think
of
other
places
throughout
the
history
of
america,
where
black
people
were
heading
up,
it's
all
about
excellence
and
opportunity.
So
I'm
excited-
and
I
thank
everyone,
especially
all
the
panelists
and
brandon,
for
his
work
and
the
work
that
we
can
continue
to
do
and
craig
andreas
I
mean
you
talking
about
brilliance.
J
I
mean
it's
just
an
amazing
black
man
that
you
know
I
I.
This
is
just
my
opinion
who
who
feel
he
was
undervalued
at
the
department
of
public
health
because
he
should
have
been
the
commission
of
department
of
public
health.
That's
just
me.
He
didn't
pay
me
to
say
that
I
just
know
when
I
see
a
brilliant
brother
I'd
like
to
acknowledge
them
and
celebrate
them,
because.
K
J
J
God
bless
you
all,
and
I
look
forward
for
a
continuation
of
this
discussion
because
we
need
to
support
and
let
people
know
that
you
don't
have
to
see
us
with
handcuffs
on
to
say
who
tell
us
who
we
are
or
holding
a
basketball.
I
have
nothing
against
sports
holding
it
back
by
saying
we
are
everywhere
talking
about
and
being
about
excellent.
Well,
thank
you
all
again.
God
bless
you.
B
With
that
we'll
close
out
again,
thank
you
for
all
of
you
that
took
the
time
to
be
with
us
today
again
one
final
time
I
want
to
thank
all
the
panelists.
I
certainly
want
to
thank
thank
brandon
jones.
That
was
unbelievable.
My
man,
robert
lewis,
robert
lewis,
in
fact
we
had
another
rob
lewis
right.
You
know
I
want
to
thank
judge,
harris
and
leonard
lee
for
being
commissioners.
I
want
to
thank
mr
haywood
for
amazing
man.
Who's
been
doing.
You
know
amazing
work.
B
Every
time
I
talk
to
him,
I
feel
so
much
power.
He
brings
that
sexy
power
and
I
feel
it
so
if
I
finally,
I
want
to
certainly
tank
as
as
leonard
lee
did,
susan
susan
hellmuth
who's
the
executive
assistant
and
been
tremendous.
B
We
couldn't
have
done
this
without
her
and
she's
at
the
center
of
this
making
sure,
particularly
through
zoom,
that
we
get
this
work
done
so,
but
but
without
further
ado,
everyone
please
have
a
good
up
good
evening
stay
safe
and
still
cover
time,
wear
masks
when
you're
out
there
and
and
take
care
of
yourself
all
right.
Thank
you
have
a
good
day,
and
god
bless.