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Boston Human Rights Public Commission Meeting 07/16/2020
A
And
I
welcome
all
of
you,
particularly
the
commissioners
and
I'm
calling
this
public
hearing
to
order
at
5
p.m,
in
accordance
with
the
commonwealth
of
massachusetts
executive
order,
which
suspends
certain
provisions
of
the
open
meeting
law.
We
are
conducting
this
meeting
online
to
ensure
public
access
to
the
discussions
of
the
boston
human
rights
commission.
The
public
may
access
this
call
through
telephone
or
video
conferencing.
A
D
A
A
F
A
F
A
J
C
A
A
A
I
know
I
know
I
know
so.
We
welcome
you,
the
director
of
the
mayor's
office
on
immigrate,
immigrant
advancement
and
it's
a
pleasure
to
have
you
here,
one
of
the
things.
The
first
thing
the
mayor
said
in
putting
up
this
commission
his
he
was
very
committed
to
immigrant
rights
and
for
us
to
pay
particular
attention
to
this
as
an
issue,
and
so
I'm
very
interested
in
hearing
what
you,
you
think,
are
the
major
issues.
A
What
do
you
think
the
gaps
in
terms
of
where
we
could
play
a
role
either
in
education,
information
enforcement?
What
I
mean,
what
is
that
other
people
are
not
doing
either
that
you
can't
do
housing,
fair
housing
people
are
done,
aren't
doing.
I
we
really
look
to
you
for
your
advice
and
guidance
here.
You've
been
doing
this
a
while,
quite
a
while
in
different
capacities.
So
we're
really
pleased
you're
here,
and
I
really
see
you
as
an
expert,
so
we're
we're
we're.
I'm
really
glad
that
you're
you're
joining
us.
K
What
I
mean
by
that
is
precisely
what
a
manager
woman
you
would
identify
in
the
last
meeting,
which
was
issues
around
internet
access
right
and
why
aren't
companies
providing
access
to
certain
neighborhoods
and
and
and
why
are
they?
You
know
why?
Why
in
other
areas,
so
that
disparity,
I
think
is-
is
potential.
Another
example
of
that
is
food.
Deserts
right,
why
are
certain
grocery
stores
in
certain
areas
versus
others?
K
Another
piece
of
that
is
these
check,
cashing
companies
versus
banks
and-
and
so
I
just
feel,
like
you
all-
have
a
really
interesting
potential
role
in
bringing
some
of
these
companies
to
the
table.
You
know
for
hearing
and
and
pointing
out
these
issues
so
that
that's
one
area,
the
other
clear
area
that
I
hear
on
a
regular
basis.
K
You
know
working
with
our
do
it
person
and
then
working
with
with
you
all
you
know,
could
there
be
a
really
interesting
way
of
highlighting
that
issue
and
bringing
the
right
companies
to
the
table?
So
those
are
those
are
some
of
those
are
some
of
the
areas
that
my
team
and
I
identified
could
be
places
where
you
kind
of
lean
into
and
would
frankly
not
only
help
our
immigrant
population,
but
also
our
african-american
population,
which
is
what's
kind
of
unique
about.
I
think
some
of
those
areas.
A
K
Restaurant
industry
is
a
big
one,
the
other
other
places
the
cleaning.
So
particularly,
we
hear
in
some
of
our
cases
we
get
it
from
from
the
brazilian
community,
those
that
go
into
homes
and-
and
you
know
clean
that
can
sometimes
be
another
area.
Of
course,
this
wouldn't
necessarily
be
for
homes
as
much
as
you
know,
for
companies
that
you
know
hire
folks
to
clean.
Those
are
the
two
areas
that
we've
really
heard
it
come
up.
A
B
K
E
K
E
K
You
know
during
the
covet
crisis,
who've
been
interested
in
cash
assistance,
direct
cash
assistance
and
it
turns
out
actually
a
number
of
undocumented
immigrants.
Do
are
able
to
have
bank
accounts
and
of
course
you
know,
some
people
are
very
fearful
and
just
won't,
but
I
I
actually
don't
think
that
that
that's
tied
necessarily
to
that.
F
I
think
perhaps
another
layer
for
that
is
that
folks,
immigrants
often
are
sending
money
back
to
their
country
and
that's
the
space
with
money
orders.
You
can
go
so
they're
familiar.
I
guess
with
those
with
that
industry.
Right,
oftentimes
it'll
be
next
to
a
bank,
but
you
know
they'll
hire
local
people,
they'll
speak
the
language
and
you
know
you
can
go
and
send
money.
I
know
a
lot
of
my
family
send
money
into
converting
such
so.
I
think
part
of
why
that
industry
comes
close
to
them.
F
G
A
A
Yeah
next
to
a
bank,
or
so
I
see
I
don't
see
those
check,
cashing
places,
then
they're,
not
very
populated
here
in
the
city
as
much
as
they
are
in
other
parts
of
the
country.
So
I
I
didn't
know
this
was
as
much
as
an
issue
as
you're
talking
about.
So
why
would
a
person
who
has
a
bank
a
person
who
has
a
bank
wouldn't
go
to
a
check
cashing
place?
Would
they.
K
A
F
C
F
A
K
No,
not
to
my
knowledge,
not
to
my
knowledge.
It
is
something
that
we
should
talk
to.
Catalina
lopez
espina
on
it,
but
I
I
will
tell
you
that
I
have
a
a
a
immigrant
non-profit
that
has
continued
to
raise
this,
and
actually
there
was
a
story
just
a
couple
of
weeks
ago.
I
can't
remember
in
which
outlet
where
this
issue
was
raised
as
well.
A
A
So
it's
an
interesting
I'm
curious
about
the
city's
stand
on
opening
up
to
a
big
grocery
store,
not
necessarily
walmart,
but
any
big
grocery
store.
They've
been
they've
been
reluctant
to
do
that.
So
I
you
know,
I
think
we
ought
to.
It
would
be
interesting
to
me
to
see
if,
where
the
you
know,
the
food
deserts
are
because
I
remember
this
in
chicago-
there
were
huge
food
deserts
in
chicago
and
that
that
issue
was
solved
in
chicago.
C
K
C
K
A
F
K
Oh
with
ice,
yes,
well,
you
know,
I
obviously
the
trust
act
was
put
in
place
right
for
us
to
limit
our
limit,
bpd's
cooperation
with
ice.
I
think,
if
you
know
and
when,
when
so
as
long
as
that
piece
gets
implemented,
which
we
were
in
the
process
of
doing
obviously
covet
has.
You
know,
made
things
just
very
difficult
at
this
particular
point.
Actually,
in
many
ways,
kobe
has
stopped
any
kind
of
relationship
there,
which
has
been
been
helpful
and
useful.
K
I
I
feel
very
good
about
that.
The
superintendent's
working
on
boston,
police
and
the
relationship
around
ice,
which
I
think
is
really
important.
So
I
I
don't
know
that
there
is
as
much
work
to
do
around
that
piece
for
the
commission
again
in
my.
In
my
humble
estimation,
what
I
will
say
is
that
there's
just
a
lot
of
fear
among
our
undocumented
population
and
it
impacts
everything.
K
Everything-
and
you
know
we're
today
on
the
health
inequities
task
force
and
we
had
a
doctor
ultafsadi
come
and
speak
to
us
about
how
she's
seeing
it
in
terms
of
her
interaction
with
with
with
her
immigrants
with
her
immigrant
patients
and
how
they're
just
afraid
to
use
any
of
the
services,
because
they're
afraid
the
information
is
going
to
get
out
or
of
the
public
charge
issue.
So
that
that's
I
I
don't
know-
and
you
may
have
some
ideas
of
of
how
you
may
play
a
role
in
terms
of
that.
K
H
No,
I
think
that
it
just
that
it
has
to
do.
It
might
have
to
do
a
little
bit
with
the
fact
that
immigrants
don't
necessarily
open
up
to
official
offices,
as
you
were.
You
know
pointing
out
to
what
I
do
here
here.
The
most
is
that
a
lot
of
people
in
our
communities
are
live
in
terror
and
that
many
of
these
issues,
including
the
caching
the
checks
issues
stem
precisely
from
the
collaboration
of
boston,
police,
department
and
arts
and,
in
some
cases,
also
landlords
and
non-ladies.
H
H
G
Both
of
my
sons
are
teachers,
one
at
east,
boston
and
one
at
madison
park.
East
boston
is
the
school
where
the
child
got
turned
over
to
ice
and
I
believe
that
a
teacher
might
have
been
involved
in
that
yeah.
You
know
they
have
a
problem
with
the
kid
they
know
the
immigration
status
they
yeah
and
then,
when
I
was
sitting
on
the
bench,
the
majority
of
my
cases
came
from
the
schools,
yeah
yeah,
and
so
for
me,
it's
a
real
issue.
A
I
know
that
there
has
been-
or
there
is
planned,
a
training
for
principals
on
this
issue,
that
the
police
are
not
there
to
enforce
discipline
or
to
turn
kids
over
into
the
police
system
and
she's
very
determined
about
that,
and
that
I
know
that
was
on
the
agenda.
I
don't
know
where
it
is,
but
that's
something
I
know
she
was
committed
to
is
that
that
these
kids,
you
know
years
ago,
if
two
kids
got
in
a
fight,
you
didn't
end
up
in
the
system.
Now
I'm
not
talking
about
it.
A
A
K
You
know
trainings
happening
and
to
your
prep
point,
commissioner
harris
it
needs
to
happen
not
just
at
the
school
police
level,
which
is
important,
but
it's
really.
How
do
you
get
all
these
teachers?
You
know
to
really
appreciate
and
understand,
with
what
the
policy
is
and
and
I'll
I'll
be
I'll.
I'll
say
this.
I
I
don't
know
that
there
there
are
necessarily
bad
intentions
on
the
teacher's
side.
It's
more
so,
just
not
often
appreciating
right
some
teachers.
Of
course
you
always
have
some
bad
apples.
K
I'm
not
saying
that,
but
but
I
I
think
in
many
ways
there's
just
not
appropriate
knowledge
and
understanding
of
these
issues.
So
and
in
my
experience
you
know
the
majority
of
teachers
are
so
empathetic
and
sympathetic.
You
know
to
this
issue
and
there's
the
unafraid
educators
group,
which
is
a
part
of
the
teachers
union.
K
That's
working
very
closely
on
on
these
issues,
but
what
I
will
say
actually
on
this
issue
is
something
that
we
all
should
think
about
is
I
think
human
rights,
the
word
human
rights
and
and
the
human
rights
commission
has
a
level
of
trust
that
is
different
than
than
than
government
than
other
parts
of
yamaraja
say.
And
so
how
is
that
leveraged?
K
You
know,
and
so
maybe
you
you
do,
do
a
review
from
time
to
time
of
the
trust
act
or
you
know
other
other
pieces
and
and
put
out
a
statement,
because
I
do
think
that
that
may
be
trusted
and
will
help
us
all
move
towards
that
goal
of
building
trust
between
you
know:
law
enforcement
and
local
law
enforcement
and
and
and
our
immigrant
population
and
city
you
know
and
an
immigrant
population.
So
so
it's
certainly
worth
pointing
out,
and
I
really
appreciate
that
commissioner,
is
for
you
to
point
that
out.
F
F
If,
if
this
happened
on
the
road
somewhere,
we
we
want
to
know
we
almost
it
for
lack
of
a
bad
explanation,
complaints,
we
take
those
complaints
and
obviously
try
to
figure
out
what
to
do
with
them.
In
a
sense
we
discuss
what
that
happens.
Do
we
investigate
it?
We
push
the
city.
Do
we
push
ppd?
Do
we
push?
F
What
I'm
saying
is
that
there's,
there's
no
maybe
suffocate
pitch
in
and
tell
me
if
this
is
incorrect,
but
we're
not
collect
we're
not
saying
come
telling
us
tell
us
that
this
has
happened
where,
if
I'm
you
know
someone
who
this
happened
to
me
with
my
child,
that's
cool.
Where
do
I
go
right?
How
do
I
tell
the
authorities
that
I'm
already
afraid
of
right,
because
police
is
already
involved
potentially
and
so
on?
A
Well,
I
actually
think
the
suggestion
about
you
know
some
review
of
the
human
of
the
trust
act
is
is
is
an
interesting
thing
we
should
put
on
our
who
does
one
go
to
if,
if
there's
been
a
violation
of
the
trust
act,
I
suppose
it
depends
what
the
violation
is
in
in
what
area,
so
it
might
be
a
little
fuzzy
about
where
you
go
depending.
I
guess,
on
what
it
is
all
right,
stephanie
really
appreciate
your
joining
us.
A
K
Yeah
so
chief
chief
crockett
is
the
new
chief
for
the
cabinet
of
equity
and
in
this
cabinet
is
five
departments.
The
human
rights
commission
is
part
of
that.
The
mayor's
office
for
immigrant
advancement
as
part
of
that
women's
advancements,
part
of
that
race
and
resiliency
department
is,
is
part
of
that,
and
then
the
office
of
diversity
is
part
of
that
as
well.
This
is
gonna,
be
the
the
cabinet.
She's
gonna
be
the
one
that
is
going
to
be.
K
K
Exactly
so,
I
think
she'd
have
a
lot
of
insight
in
some
of
the
issues
we
talked
about
and
then-
and
you
know,
has
been
working
at
mit-
I
think
was
offered
tenure
and
as
well
and
and
really
working
on
urban
planning
and
development,
so
really
really
really
smart.
I
was
joking
with
my
wife,
the
other
day
that
you
know
I
don't
have
to
go
to
mit
to
get
an
education
from
mit
now
that
she's
there
so
so
anyway,
you
guys
will
have.
A
A
So
the
question
is:
do
we
want
to
do
it
now
or
should
we
just
wait?
I
I
guess
what
I
would
say
here
is
how
I
yeah.
Let
me
just
suggest
something
is
two
or
three
points
from
you.
Several
of
us
have
been
on
public
boards
before
so,
and
one
of
the
things
I
brought
up
already
today
was
if,
in
fact
all
of
us
have
a
piece
of
paper,
then
that
paper
has
to
be
public
and
posted.
A
D
Okay,
so
I'm
gonna
try
to
do
that
and
when
you
were
talking
about
the
piece
of
paper,
you
were
referring
to
really
the
intersection
of
the
public
records
law
and
the
open
meeting
law.
Yes,
is
that
what
you
went
through
earlier?
Yes,
okay,
so
yes,
the
public
records
law
and
the
open
meeting
law
are
two
of
the
primary
bodies
of
public
laws
that
relate
to
your
role
as
a
commissioner
and
the
third
one
is
the
conflict
advantageous
law.
D
So
I'm
gonna
just
quickly
tell
you
guys
the
purpose
of
each
one,
the
requirements,
and
then
we
can
do
a
more
in-depth
training.
So
I'll
start
with
the
purple
the
conflict
of
interest
law,
which
is
controlled
by
chapter
268,
a
of
the
massachusetts
general
laws
and
the
purpose
is
simply
to
foster
integrity
and
public
service,
to
promote
the
public's
trust
and
to
prevent
conflicts
between
private
interests
and
public
duties.
D
C
D
D
So
that's
what
I'll
say
about
the
conflict
of
interest
law
in
terms
of
the
open
meeting
law,
so
that
law
is
set
up
really
just
to
eliminate
any
secrecy
around
the
deliberations
and
decisions
on
on
with
public
policy
of
faith
by
noticing
the
meeting.
Today,
you
are
taking
a
step
in
compliance
with
open
meeting
law.
D
D
One
last
thing
about
the
open
meeting
law:
there
are
a
few.
There
are
a
few
topics
or
areas
where,
if
you
guys
need
to
discuss
there
may
be
exceptions
where
you
convene
an
executive
session
executive
session.
Doesn't
relieve
you
from
all
the
requirements
of
the
open
meeting
law.
But
what
it
does
is
say
for
the
purpose
of
this
deliberation.
D
D
But
the
idea
is
that
you
know
public
participation,
or
even
just
the
presence
of
public
of
the
public
may
have
some
interference
with
the
deliberation.
So
the
law
does
make
exceptions
for
certain
certain
topics
and
certain
items
for
public
bodies
to
discuss
and
then
the
last
thing,
the
public
records
law.
D
D
One
thing,
commissioner,
kenneth
just
noted-
and
I
also
want
to
emphasize
again-
is
that
you
know
documents
that
are
documents
that
are
introduced
in
open
meeting.
Laws
are
essentially
public
records
and
should
be
kept
static,
meaning
the
document
as
it
is
introduced
is
the
document
that,
if
a
public
records
request
is
made
that
the
documents
produce,
even
if
it's
you
know
a
draft
of
an
agreement
that
we
will,
you
know
later
finalize
if
that
draft
is
introduced
into
a
meeting.
D
D
C
D
Great
great
question,
and
then
so
when
we
receive
a
public
records
request,
we
have,
I
believe,
it's
10
days
to
respond
to
one
absent.
You
know
an
extension
or
any
other
reason
that
we
would
work
out
with
the
public
records
officer
and
the
the
massachusetts
secretary's
office
that
deals
or
overseas
and
monitors
sorry
yep
that
overseas
and
monitors
the
public
records
law.
So
those
are
all
more
administrative
in
terms
of
the
logistics
and
how
we
would
process
this
again.
D
That
can
come
up
later,
but
it's
10
days
you
have
to
respond,
everything
is
presumed
to
be
a
record
and
then
we
can
discuss
the
details
at
a
later
time.
Those
are
the
three
I
would
say
public
laws
that
you
need
to
be
aware
of,
and
then
I,
my
last
thing
I
want
to
say,
is
in
a
training,
we'll
discuss
the
parliamentary
rules
that
we
typically
observe
or
not
just
observe
what
we
use
in
our
public
body
meeting
for
the
city
and
what
it
means
to
as
a
commission
to
take
binding
action.
D
F
D
F
For
the
law
department
and
the
attorneys
within
the
law
department
are
assigned
departments
to
work
with
that
they
that
they're
advised
and
the
human
rights
commission
is
assigned
to
nyla.
So
nyla
has
been
a
close
partner
since
I
started
to
try
to
help
us
get
going.
So
that's
why
she
was
saying.
If
anything,
we
can
go
back
to
her
as
well
and
she
can
help
further.
D
C
A
A
C
A
A
I
don't
know,
and
the
company
was
the
landlord
to
understand
you
know
it's
like
so
that's
was
one
of
my
questions
is
is,
is
you
know,
is
part
of
our
job
and,
and
maybe
talking
to
the
new
cabinet
officer
too,
is
making
sure
that
the
city,
all
the
city
representatives,
understand
what
immigrant
rights
are
and
then
moving
on.
You
know
come
of
the
larger
world
in
terms
of
others,
even
outside
of
city
agencies,
so
judgey
we're
going
to
say
something
here.
D
A
A
But
but
you
know
what
rights
to
immigrants
have
and
where
are
the
biggest
problems
with
pursuing
those
rights,
because
what
we
heard
today
was
were
issues
that
are
much
broader
internet
access
for
everybody.
You
know
food
deserts,
that's
much
broader
check,
cashing,
that's
even
much
broader.
So
the
wage
issue
is
an
issue
which
is,
it
is
predominantly
immigrants
because
they
have
nobody
to
complain
to
they're
really
exploited.
I
think.
But
but
it's
true,
I
mean,
what's
our,
what
do
we
know?
A
What's
our
knowledge
and
what
others
know,
other
people
in
the
city,
city
agencies-
and
I
say
the
same
thing
for
all
of
these
issues
that
would
come
before
us
like
throughout
city
government.
There
are
people
in
almost
every
department
in
agencies
who
are
responsible
for
whatever
you
want
to
call
it.
Civil
rights,
anti-discrimination,
harassment
policies,
and
I
wonder
both
how
well
trained
they
are
depending
on
agency
to
agency
and
how
much
they
share
with
each
other.
Or
do
they
even
know
each
other,
and
and
do
they
learn
from
each
other?
A
Are
there
best
practices
that
that
they
learn
from
each
other
is?
Has
there
ever
been
any
attempt
to
bring
these
people
together,
and
I
don't
know
I
mean
it's
one
of
the
questions
I
guess
I
asked
carolyn
again
is:
is
this
something
maybe
on
her
agenda
to
look
at
you
know?
My
experience
has
been
that
everybody's
in
a
silo
and
that
one
of
the
best
ways
is
to
learn
best
practices
from
other
people
who
have
been
successful
or
failed,
and
what
they've
tried
to
do?
A
A
Do
they
in
any
way
know
the
role
that
they
play?
I
mean
search
firms,
I
think
they
have
one
rolodex
and
in
it
are
four
people
of
color
the
same
four
people
of
color
that
are
all
of
them
had,
but
they
seem
to
have
a
very
hard
time
coming
up
with
names
of
of
people
of
color
and
often
women,
and
it's
an
interesting
it's
an
interesting
situation,
because
it
it's
a
a
log
jam
for
a
lot
of
high
level
jobs
in
appointments.
A
A
A
What's
the
what
what
is
the
responsibility
of
that
real
estate
agent?
Actually,
the
president
of
the
real
estate
association
happens
to
live
in
my
building,
so
he
was
sort
of
curious
about
you
know.
Is
there
anybody
around
who
could
do
training
to
real
estate
agents
so
and
then
housing?
You
know
I'm
curious
about
what
the
fair
housing
people
are
doing
in
the
city
and
just
like
with
you.
Stuffy
is
what
role
do
we
have
I'm
curious
about
procurement?
A
We've
heard
a
lot
about
it.
It
hasn't
moved
very
much
in
the
city
of
boston
in
terms
of
serving
minority-owned
businesses,
so
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
there's
a
a
lot
of
areas
and
also,
as
I
we
mentioned
last
time,
there's
a
police
standards
task
force
with
wayne.
Budd
who's,
I
noticed,
is
having
four
or
five
hearings
in
the
next
couple
of
weeks:
open
hearings
and
there's
also
the
covid
health
care
task
force
which
evandro
do
you
know
where
that
is,
and
is
it.
F
I
I
believe,
that's
where
they're
going
towards,
in
fact
the
meeting
that
they
had
today,
which
I
participated
in
they
have,
I
guess,
gotten
a
consultant
services
of
a
local
company,
actually
minority
owned
businesses
to
help
them
through
the
process,
because
they're
gonna
keep
going
forward
and
they
want
to
come
up
with
with.
I
guess,
work
product,
that's
official.
So
that's!
I
think
where
the
this
task
force
is
leading.
C
A
And
you
know
that
is
a
huge
hook
to
make
a
significant
difference
in
black
owned
businesses
and
in
organizations
that
serve
black
and
brown
people
in
underserved
neighborhoods
in
access
to
health
care,
and
certainly
we've
found
through
coven
that
the
disparity
in
terms
of
access
to
health
care
has
made
an
enormous
difference.
So
I'm
curious
as
to
what
they
will
come
come
up
with
and
is
there
anything
that
makes
sense
for
us
to
be
involved
in
again?
It's
like
where's
our
elaine
here
that
other
people
aren't
doing
that.
A
A
You
know
what
we're
facing
now
in
terms
of
evictions,
I
mean
going
to
make
a
a
you
know
again,
a
big
difference
so,
and
I
don't
know
you
know
again
where
the
holes
are
in
in
terms
of
other
people
handling.
This
is
this
something
that
that
we
should
be
thinking
about,
and-
and
so
I
and
so
ivanka
do.
You
have
any
comments
in
that
regard.
F
One
of
the
things
that
I've
done
even
before
this
this
year
is
is
connect
with
mcad
massachusetts
commission
against
the
nation,
because
this
is
a
lane
that
they
occupy
massively
in
the
state
of
massachusetts
and
in
fact,
early
on,
I
think,
late.
Last
year
in
the
fall,
I
had
a
meeting
with
a
couple
of
the
commissioners
and
some
senior
staff
actually
nyla
freeman,
who
talked
earlier.
F
The
lawyer
was
there
with
me
to
just
start
a
conversation
with
them
to
figure
out
what
that
lane
is
for
us
and
what
the
gaps
are
and
most
recently,
two
days
ago,
I
actually
called
the
chair
of
the
mcad,
which
is
a
woman
by
the
name
of
sunita,
thomas
george,
and
she
expressed
interest
in
coming
to
talk
and
to
talk
to
the
commission.
So
we
at
least
have
again
a
understanding
of
what
space
that
occupy
and
what
we
can
do
to
help.
So
that's
one
thing
that
I'd
like
to
add.
F
F
So
I
think
there's
some
key
partners
that,
in
order
for
us
to
figure
out
what
lane
we
occupy
that
some
people
we
need
to
hear
from-
and
I
think
mcad
is
key
and
so
is
fair
housing
inequity
and
obviously
we
mentioned
yusuf
you
mentioned,
and
we
are
aware
now
of
chief
new
chief
of
equity
and
inclusion,
so
she's
she's
going
to
help
us
think
about
the
space
we
can
occupy
and
within
that
equity
and
inclusion
there
are
other
departments.
So
I
guess
to
some
extent
we
can
think
about
how
do
we?
F
How
do
our
work
add
value
as
a
whole
to
this
new
equity
and
inclusion
chief
in
cabinet
position
as
well?
So
that's
a
couple
things
that
I
want
to
put
in
your
radar
and
finally,
you
know
as
someone
obviously
as
a
staff
member
who's
been
almost
a
year
on
this.
I
want
to
take
find
this
time
to
sort
of
put
some
things
in
the
radar
that
we
can
discuss,
that
we
can
that
you're,
aware
of
that's
happened
on
a
daily
basis.
F
F
I
can
tell
you
first,
I've
had
complaints,
complaints,
so-called,
but
people
contacting
the
office
either
through
the
city's
website
or
an
email
or
call
trying
to
access
us,
and
you
know,
I
think
one
of
the
things
we
should
think
about,
even
as
we
think
about
priorities
in
mission
is,
is
an
intake,
a
basic
intake
that
tells
us
what
are
we
starting
to
see
from
people?
So
those
those
are
some
key
things
that
I
think
you
know
as
we
me
I
like
to
sort
of
take
this
opportunity
to
kind
of
you
know
put
some
some.
F
A
A
To
investigators
who
can
when
we
say
you
know,
review
the
trust
act,
people
go
out
know
what
the
trust
act
is.
You
know
see
what
already
exists.
I
mean
I'm
just
using
that
as
an
example
or
food
deserts.
Are
there
food
deserts?
Where
are
the
food
deserts?
Something
we
can
do?
I
mean
you
know
so
much
much
more
than
any
individual
complaint
and
I've
said
to
ivanka
before.
A
If
people
come
in,
we
should
send
them
to
the
right
places
make
sure
they
get
served,
but
it's
not
our
job
to
manage
individual
complaints.
So,
but
I'm
interested
in
in
your
reaction
to
anything
you
heard
and
also
any
visceral
reaction
to
say:
okay,
we
should
be
doing
this
or
we
should
be
doing
this
next.
A
It's
a
lot.
You
know-
and
you
know,
we've
gotta
pick
a
few
things
and
there
are
other
things.
There
are
a
few
things
going
on.
There's
a
police.
You
know:
there's
wayne
budd,
doing
the
police
standard
stuff
and
looking
at
plus
in
the
state
legislature,
the
senate
has
already
passed
legislation.
That's
going
to
the
house
that
takes
into
effect
almost
the
four
hearings
that
wayne
bed's
group
is
doing
are
covered
in
the
state
legislation.
A
A
Secondly,
we
want
to
go
and
say
who
are
the
next
and
I
want
evandro
susan
to
make
sure
you
share
and
post
the
list
of
people
and
organizations
that
everybody
sent
in,
because
we
need
to
do.
That.
Is
your
suggestion
about
sort
of
next
steps
and
how
we
narrow
this
down
and
where
you
think
we
can
make
the
most
difference.
G
One
of
the
things
that
was
raised,
the
food
desert
yeah.
I
think
we
really
do
need
to
look
at
that.
You
know
as
I've
gotten
older.
You
know,
I'm
fortunate
to
have
a
car
right
go
get
groceries,
but
this
covet
has
sort
of
emphasized
to
me
how
important
it
is
to
have
a
store.
That's
within
a
short
distance,
yeah
yeah
where
you
live,
and
so
I
think
that's
one
of
the
things
we
should
look
at
and
advocate
behind,
making
sure
that
all
communities
have
access
to
healthy
food.
G
A
C
F
C
A
H
What
I
would
be
interested
in
knowing
if,
if
this
body
has
interest
in
calling
some
experts
on
immigrants,
immigrants
in
boston
and
massachusetts,
to
speak
up
of
the
issues
that
are
coming
out
on
behalf
of
the
immigrants
themselves,
because
that
we
are
not
going
to
be
able
to
do
yeah?
But
we
could.
We
could
select
groups
or
individuals
representing
broad
coalitions
of
immigrants
from
all
over
within
boston.
C
H
B
Yeah,
I
do
think
that
it's
very
important
that
we
do
a
fair
amount
of
listening
before
we
decide
on
what
some
of
these
priorities
are
and
I've
been
trying
to
think
of
a
process
for
funneling
and
narrowing,
because
I
bet
we
get
a
lot
of
great.
I
mean
there
are
a
lot
of
really
interesting
great
ideas,
but
I
think
we
really
do
need
a
process
to
funnel,
but
I
agree
with
what
you
said,
madam
chair,
about
the
sort
of
skill
sets
of
the
people
that
we're
gonna
need,
because
I
think.
C
B
No
matter
so
we
picked
three
four.
However,
many
things
to
focus
on
yeah,
you're
gonna
need
skilled
writers
and
researchers
so
that
maybe
we
have
a
few
public
hearings.
We
bring
in
some
companies
from
whatever
industry.
It
is
that
that
we
decided
to
focus
on,
but
then
what?
What
of
it?
You
know
you
have
a
hearing
and
it's
in
the
news
cycle
for
a
day,
but
that's
that's
not
useful
long
term.
B
B
A
Yeah
and
the
other
thing
you
know,
ben
when
you
talk
about
this,
is
you
know
you
do
hearings
and
you
do
research
and
gather
research
and
write
a
report
make
recommendations.
I
think
one
of
the
things
with
a
standing
commission,
as
opposed
to
a
task
force,
is
we're
going
to
continue
to
be
in
existence.
A
C
A
C
F
F
So,
that's
that's
why
I
I
brought
the
budget
up
and
started
talking
about
staffing
because
as
we're
discussing
the
focus
and
the
priorities
and
when
we
get
to
it,
it's
going
to
take
us
some
time
to
hire
individuals
right.
It
took
me
several
months
to
to
hire
susan.
So
that's
why
I'm
putting
it
up
there
that
you
know,
maybe
we
should
think
about
as
if
we're
going
to
focus
on
systematic
issues.
F
F
I
mean
right
now
we
have
in
a
meeting
a
public
meeting
that
we
we
we
put
it
on
on
fate
on
on
not
facebook,
but
obviously
on
on
the
city's
website,
but
there's
a
lot
more.
We
could
have
done
to
communicate
to
the
public
right.
In
fact,
we
talked
about
briefly
last
time
about
putting
a
press
conference.
We
haven't
meetings.
Evie!
No
excuse
me,
not
press
conference.
I
keep
saying
press
conference.
F
I
meant
press
release
who
could
have
put
something
out
to
say
to
the
public
that
now
in
august
these
meet
isn't
happening
right
on
every
two
weeks,
so
so
communication
is
critical.
I
think
right
now,
as
we
think
about
coming
off
the
gate.
How
do
we?
How
do
we
brand
ourselves?
How
do
we,
what
you
know,
do
we
have
a
twitter
account,
or
do
we
don't
like
those?
How
do
we
communicate
with
people?
F
It
is
something
that
I
that
you
know
is
keeping
me
up
at
night,
because
I
think
that
we
can
have
a
lot
more
people,
there's
a
lot
more
people
interested
in
the
work
that
we're
doing.
If
we're
going
to
listen
to
people
and
have
public
comments,
we
should
find
different
ways
to
reach
people,
so
that's
another
another
person,
but
I'll
just
again.
F
E
A
E
A
A
I
don't
know
how
similar,
because
I
don't
know
what
their
legislation
or
ordinance
looks
like.
Can
they
call
hearings?
Can
they
subpoena
people?
What
I
mean?
What
is
it
they
do?
I
think
they're
more,
like
I
don't
know
what
I
don't
know,
how
much
authority
they
have,
but
it
would
be
interesting
to
have
not
only
their
executive
director
but
a
couple
of
board
members.
It
would
be
interesting
to
meet
together.
I
think
what
we
can
learn
from
them
about
what
worked
and
what
didn't
work
for
them
and
it
would.
A
I
think
learning
more
about
food
deserts.
I
think
that
you
know
I
was
at
a
in
a
meeting
on
a
zoom
assume
meeting,
of
course
about
listening
to
someone
talk
about
the
opportunity
for
students
to
take
courses
anywhere
in
the
commonwealth
right
and
she
assumed
that
everyone
in
the
common
milk
commonwealth
had
access
to
high-performing
internet,
and
I
was
like.
A
Where
did
you
get
that
idea,
you
know
is
that
I
mean
people,
don't
have
broadband,
and
even
people
who
have
some
broadband
have
very
low
strength
broadband.
So
I
still
think
that's
something
that
should
be
on
our
agenda
and,
if
anne's
out
on
maternity
leave,
there's
probably
someone
else
that
we
can
talk
to
and.
C
A
That
you
could
work
with
mike
to
see
what
we
can
find
out.
So
does
that
sound
reasonable
if
we
have
somebody
from
the
fair
housing
people,
maybe
and
in
mirror
and
some
other
organization
talk
about
immigrant
issues
and
continue
to
look
about
this
internet
accessibility
or
put
it
in
some
other
order?
I
am
open,
as
we
say
where
we
want
to
listen
before
we
choose.
F
A
C
A
F
Right,
I
know
what
what
I'm
saying
is,
as
as
we
are
thinking
about
what
I'm,
what
I've
heard
over
the
past
couple
meetings.
The
two
meetings
we've
had
is
that
we
want
to
not
duplicate
work
right.
We
want
to
to
add
value
and
find
a
lane
that
that
we
can
be
sort
of
unique
in
a
sense
right
right,
not
do
what
the
other
city
departments
are
doing
right.
C
A
A
C
A
Absolutely
I
asked
that
evondro
that
you
know
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
is:
can
we
find
out
from
mcad
what
their
complaints
from
boston
look
like
in
terms
of
a
pattern
of
practice
right?
Are
they
from
the
african-american
community,
the
tx
community?
Are
they
from
the
gay
community,
the
disabilities
community?
A
A
So,
let's
see
who
we,
you
know
if
we
look
at
fair
housing
and
we
look
at
a
couple
of
the
immigrant
groups
and
maybe
mcad
that
would
be
a
very
full
meeting.
So,
let's
see
who
we
can
get
and
who
makes
sense
and
let's
continue
to
see
what
we
can
find
out
about
internet
access-
and
you
know
here's
the
kind
of
thing.
If
you
had
a
researcher
susan,
you
can
be
a
researcher
find
out
about
food
districts.
I
want
you
to
go
around
see
if
you
can
buy
food
everywhere.
C
C
A
Us
it
may
be
an
issue,
but
it's
not
as
big
an
issue
as
it
is
in
a
lot
of
other
places.
That's
not
saying
it's
not
an
issue,
it's
it.
Maybe
it's
a
big
issue
in
a
small
small
portion,
but
it
one
that's
more
easily
solved
too.
So,
let's
find
out
what
we're
talking
about
and
and
susan
ervandro.
Why
don't
you
see
who-
who
I
think
he
mentioned
so.
A
Okay,
all
right
have
we
done
enough
for
the
night
through
the
evening
you
have.
I
want
you
to
know
the
last
time
at
the
last
meeting
two
weeks
ago,
my
15
month
old
granddaughter
was
watching.
We
were
on
television.
My
son
put
her
on
television
and
she
started
to
cry
because
grammy
did
not
wave
at
her
when
she
waved
so
she
was
like
she
was
like
crying
and
crying
and
crying
because
this
grammy's
on
television
it
was
like.
Why
isn't
she
waving
at
us
so
anyway,.
A
A
A
I
A
F
F
C
A
C
F
I
can
explain
a
little
bit
about
arun,
because
I've
met
with
him
in
the
past.
Oh
okay,
you
can
see
in
his
comment
in
the
chat,
yeah
and
he's
part
of
the
christmas
atticus
right,
boston
organization,
yeah.
We
have
some
initiatives
to
to
get
the
word
out
about
about
him
and
they
essentially
met
with
me
asking
for
help,
and
I
said,
and
at
that
point
actually
I
think
you,
the
commissioners
were
not
appointed.