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From YouTube: Boston Human Rights Public Commission Meeting 6/30/20
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Boston Human Rights Public Commission Meeting 6/30/20
A
Meeting
lore
we
are
conducting
this
meeting
online
to
ensure
public
access
to
the
discussions
of
the
boston
human
rights
commission.
The
public
may
have
access
to
this
call
through
telephone
and
video
conferencing,
so
members
of
the
public
will
have
an
opportunity
to
provide
comments
at
the
end
of
our
meeting.
A
So
first,
I
thought
we
would
ask
the
commissioners
to
introduce
themselves
share
name
and
just
a
sentence
or
two
just
maybe
a
minute.
So,
let's
see
why
don't
we
judge?
Why
don't
we
start
with
you.
B
I'm
judge
leslie
harris
retired
judge
of
the
commonwealth
of
massachusetts.
I
live
in
roxbury
in
the
grove
hall
section,
I'm
a
former
number
of
things,
teacher
public
defender
prosecutor
and,
I
believe
in
the
rights
of
all
people
and
I
believe
those
rights
need
to
be
protected.
C
Hi
in
rousseau,
I
live
in
jamaica,
plain
with
my
wife
nancy.
I
am
chief
financial
officer
at
metro,
housing,
boston,
I'm
also
a
retired
minister
in
the
united
church
of
christ
and
I'm
here,
because
I
believe
in
respecting
the
dignity
of
every
human
being.
A
D
Currently,
I'm
the
general
manager
and
curator
of
roxbury
army,
roxburgh,
state
state,
roxbury
heritage,
state
park
and
melania
cass
recreational
complex
for
former
former
division,
director
of
violence
and
injury
prevention
for
the
state,
which
includes
suicide,
sexual
assault,
domestic
violence,
youth
violence,
motor
vehicles,
trafficking,
also,
former
deputy
commissioner
of
public
health
for
the
state
of
connecticut.
D
I'm
here,
because
I've
born
and
raised
boston
experienced
the
worst
and
the
best
of
boston,
and
I
truly
believe
that
the
best
is
yet
to
come.
Under
the
leadership
of
our
current
mayor
and
the
commissioners
who
are
on
board.
D
E
A
E
E
To
act,
often,
professors
read
and
write,
sometimes
in
bad
times,
we
also
act.
This
is
such
a
time.
F
Hi,
my
name
is
robert
mcgrin,
I'm
a
third
generation
codman
square
resident.
I've
spent
over
30
years
in
community
activism
in
the
common
square
community,
and
I
spent
the
last
20
years
working
with
at-risk
youth
about
the
last
16
of
which
was
with
glbt
youth
and
a
residential
group
home
I've
taken
all
of
my
experiences
to
inform
and
ground
a
lot
of
my
opinions
and
experiences,
and
I
hope
to
bring
that
to
the
table
to
help
many
voices
be
heard.
F
A
I
think
I
have
all
the
commissioners
I
think
and
ivandro
and
susan,
why
don't
you
introduce
yourselves.
G
Sure
I'll
be
vancouver
cavallo.
Obviously
you
know
I'm
the
executive
director
of
the
boston
human
rights
commission.
I
am
excited
it's
it's.
You
know.
I'm
super
excited
to
finally
get
to
this
day,
I'm
looking
forward
to
a
productive
discussion.
You
know,
finally
to
have
all
of
the
commissioners
in
one
place.
I
can't
tell
you
how
excited
I
am
so
I'm
looking
forward
to
the
to
the
amazing
work
that
we
all
going
to
do
for
the
city
of
boston
and
all
of
us
that
live
here
so
I'll
pass
it
to
susan
who's.
H
So
hello,
everyone,
I'm
susan,
I'm
the
executive
assistant.
I
am
a
recent
law
school
graduate.
I
just
graduated
from
new
england
law,
I'm
an
immigrant
from
greece,
I'm
also
half
egyptian,
I'm
very
into
human
rights,
I'm
so
happy
to
be
part
of
the
team
and
just
like
evangel.
I
cannot
be
more
excited.
I
Hi
ben
goldberger
here
I've
been
in
boston
since
I
graduated
law
school
in
2002.
I
live
in
jamaica,
plain
now
with
my
wife,
my
two
daughters
and
two
cats,
one
of
whom
apparently
is
printing
something.
So
I
apologize
for
that
noise.
I
I
have
spent
the
bulk
of
my
career
in
public
service
and
I'm
currently
the
general
counsel
of
the
executive
office
of
energy
environmental
affairs
for
the
state
I'm
here,
because
boston
certainly
was
with
this
commission
when
it
was
founded,
was
a
national
leader
as
a
national
leader
in
a
number
of
areas,
and
I
think
that
this
is
a
really
important,
vital
area
where
we
continue
to
lead
and
I'm
honored
to
be
part
of
that.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
all
of
you,
so
I'm
margaret
mckenna
and
most
people
who
would
know
me,
would
think
of
me
as
an
educator
because
that's
what
I've
done
for
most
of
my
time
in
boston,
but
I
started
my
career
as
a
civil
rights
lawyer
and
trying
cases
around
the
country,
mostly
on
race
discrimination,
and
it
is
unimaginably
painful
me
to
watch
over
the
last
month,
some
of
the
cities
that
I
worked
in
suing
police
and
fire
departments.
Actually
some
of
them
watch
what
has
transpired.
A
You
know
we
thought
things
would
change
many
years
ago
and
things
change
but
remain
the
same.
The
systematic
systemic
racism
that
exists
and-
and
I
do
believe
things
would
change.
Otherwise
I
wouldn't
be
here
and,
as
I
heard
I
wouldn't
be
here
and
act,
because
I
think
this
can
be
action.
The
other
thing
is
believe
it
or
not.
I
was
the
executive
director
of
the
association
of
all
the
official
human
rights
agencies
in
the
country,
meaning
the
city
and
state
agencies.
A
People
aren't
old
enough
to
remember
glendora
putnam
when
she
headed
mcad,
but
those
were
during
those
years
before
I
became
rehabilitated
as
a
educator.
I
guess,
but
one
of
the
things
I
never
left
was
my
commitment
to
access
and
social
justice,
and
so
I'm
so
glad
to
be
back
having
this
as
a
centerpiece
of
my
life,
because
it's
always
been
a
big
part
of
my
life
and
I'm
grateful
to
the
mayor
for
particularly
for
his
putting
this
at
the
center
of
his
policy
agenda.
A
Your
policy
agenda,
mr
mayor,
and
for
calling
it
a
public
health
issue,
it's
long
overdue
and
I
hope
that
boston
becomes
a
model
for
others,
as
we
have
in
so
many
other
ways.
So
I
turn
it
over
to
you,
mr
mayor.
J
Can
you
hear
me
now
I've
been
on
calls
all
day
watching
people
talk
to
the
screen
and
I'm
like
how
come
they
can't
get
it
right.
I
just
did
the
same
thing.
Let
me
just
first
of
all
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
all
the
members
of
the
commission,
the
commissioners.
Thank
you
very
much.
As
I
look
at
the
the
the
the
the
the
picture
of
the
commissioners,
it
really
it's.
J
It
said
it
already
tells
an
amazing
story,
and
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
food,
for
what
you
bring
to
the
table,
whether
it's
activism
or
or
education,
or
your
your
legal
legal
knowledge,
all
the
different
pieces,
community
activism,
I've
known
bob
for
a
long
time.
I
met
bob
when
I
was
a
young
state
representative
and
he
was
a
young
activist
up
in
ashmont
hill,
and
you
know,
and
it's
great
to
see
all
all
of
our
lives
come
full
circle
here.
So
thank
you.
J
I
just
want
to
take
a
minute
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
history
of
the
boston,
human
rights
commission.
It
has
a
long
and
interesting
history.
It
started
under
mayor
ray
flynn.
It
was
created
as
a
safety
net
as
protections
for
the
most
vulnerable
people
in
boston's
community.
At
the
time
it
helped
the
city
put
its
moral
weight
behind
some
of
the
important
issues,
especially
the
lgbtq
right
rights
and
rights,
and
those
rights
were
not
recognized.
J
At
that
point,
the
first
executive
director
was
a
gentleman
frederick
mandel,
an
openly
gay
man
at
the
time
when
our
city
and
our
country
was
changing
a
great
deal,
the
commission
helped
ensure
that
nobody
fell
through
the
cracks
and
everybody
had
a
place
to
turn
for
help
in
the
90s.
The
commission
became
inactive.
It
stayed
that
way
until
we
react
activated,
it
last
fall.
J
The
decision
was
made.
It
was
clear
we
needed
to
use
every
resource
available
to
protect
residents
and
residents
rights.
In
the
last
few
years,
we've
seen
resurgence
of
human
rights
violations
happening
in
america,
children
being
torn
from
their
parents
and
in
prison
in
unsanitary
camps.
We
saw
those
images
on
tv
asylum
seekers
being
turned
away
without
a
hearing.
J
J
Constant
threats
of
striking
terror
into
the
hearts
of
immigrant
families
caused
them
to
live
their
lives
in
the
shadows.
J
According
to
the
human
rights
watch,
which
monitors
human
rights
violations
across
the
globe,
the
united
states
is
moving
backwards.
The
united
states
should
be
a
beacon
for
human
rights.
There's
no
question
about
it.
We
must
do
everything
in
our
power
to
uphold
those
values
here
in
the
city
of
boston.
J
I
was
proud
to
appoint
alvandro
cavallo
as
the
executive
director
of
the
newly
activated
human
rights
commission
avandro
was
a
state
representative
in
boston
representing
an
incredibly
diverse
community.
He
was
an
assistant
district
attorney
who
understands
the
importance
of
law
as
it
means
to
serving
victims
and
protecting
communities
he's
an
immigrant
who
came
to
boston
from
cabo
verde
at
the
age
of
15
years
old.
J
You
know
a
graduate
of
boston,
public
schools,
avondro
graduated
from
boston,
madison
park,
high
school
went
on
to
earn
his
degree
from
umass,
amherst
and
howard
university
school
of
law,
and
also
the
as
you
can
see,
people
watching
and
hearing
the
seven
appointed
commissioners,
a
diverse
group
of
bostonians
with
a
range
of
diverse
backgrounds.
J
J
We
continue
to
to
have
conversations
around
police
brutality
and
racial
violence
all
across
our
country
and
that's
added
more
urgency
to
our
work.
In
2020
alone,
we've
learned
some
important
lessons
about
the
disparities
that
persist
in
boston
testing
and
access
to
healthcare.
This
is
necessary
with
covet.
This
is
just
people's
lack
of
access
to
healthcare.
J
Food
access.
We've
served
over
almost
2
million
meals,
whether
it's
through
our
school
children
or
families
through
the
kobe
crisis,
language
barriers,
gaps
in
internet
access,
housing
and
security,
and
we've
been
working
around
the
clock.
Quite
honestly,
in
a
lot
of
these
issues
and
close
the
gaps
that
exist,
the
human
rights
commission
has
been
an
important
part
of
this
work
and
it's
going
to
continue
to
play
an
important
role
as
we
continue
to
move
forward
here,
and
I
think
that
that's
really
important.
J
The
commission-
and
I
know
you
know
this,
but
must
continue
to
focus
on
the
rights
of
immigrants.
In
my
opinion,
we
have
this
battle
every
day.
No,
we
don't
have
a
battle
here,
but
we
hit
the
conversation
every
day.
J
It's
also
important
for
the
commission
at
this
moment
in
time
to
focus
on
racial
justice,
and
it
was
as
important
yesterday
but
there's
been
a
lot
of
conversations.
There's
an
ongoing
movement
for
radical
justice
and
racial
justice.
I
should
say,
excuse
me
and
emphasize,
is
emphasizing
the
urgency
of
the
work
that
you're
all
gonna
be
doing
here.
J
It
shows
that
we
have
still
a
long
way
to
go
as
a
nation
and
as
a
city
to
protect
residents
from
hatred,
bigotry
and
violence,
we're
hearing
stories
every
day,
not
just
in
other
parts
of
the
country,
but
right
here
in
our
own
city
in
our
own
state,
the
commission,
hopefully,
will
continue
to
focus
on
access
to
information.
J
This
has
major
implications
for
kids
in
their
education
workers
in
our
economy,
families,
access
to
public
health
and
information
regarding
all
of
those
spaces,
public
safety
information
in
boston.
We
certainly
believe
that
fair
access
to
information
is
a
basic
human
right,
and
I'd
like
to
ask
all
of
us
to
make
sure
that
this
issue
is
something
that
you
work
and
explore.
J
Last
week
I
announced
the
first
ever
equity
cabinet
in
the
city
of
boston.
The
history
which
brings
is
this
existing
departments,
including
the
office
of
resilience
and
racial
equity,
diversity,
language
and
communication
access,
women's
rights,
immigration
rights,
immigrant
rights
and
human
rights
commission.
J
This
work
will
be
led
by
dr
carolyn
crockett,
a
long
time
activist
and
leader
and
educator
here
in
the
city
of
boston.
I
think
carolyn
might
be
on
the
call
and
it
really
the
human
rights
commission
wasn't-
was
housed
indirectly
in
the
mayor's
office,
and
now
it
has
a
permanent
home
with
a
real
budget
and
moving
forward.
I
know
alvandro
and
myself
have
had
many
conversations
around
making
sure
that
we
fund
this
office
to
the
point
where
you
can
actually
do
some
real
good
work
here
in
the
city.
J
I
also
announced
that
we're
moving
20
of
the
police
overtime
budget
into
physical
and
mental
health
programs
and
safety
and
well-being
of
young
people
and
the
long-term
success
of
our
neighbors.
That
includes
two
million
dollars
in
new
funding
for
community-based
programs
of
support,
including
violence,
intervention,
grants,
youth
programming,
language
and
food
access,
immigrant
advancement
and
the
aid
strong
commission
and
the
human
rights
commission,
so
that
money
is
going
to
be
put
into
those
departments.
J
J
This
is
an
opportunity
to
do
some
real
good
work
here
and
set
a
national
goal,
a
national
president,
and
I
think
that
we
have
a
unique
opportunity
here.
So
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
all
for
being
here
today.
Thank
you
for
being
willing
to
serve.
There's
a
lot
of
chat
going
on
in
the
chat
room.
J
Carolyn
crockett
is
on
there
our
new
chief,
john
barrows,
chief
of
economic
development,
joyce
lenehan,
chief
of
policy,
marty,
martinez,
chief
of
health
and
human
services,
city
council
and
easter
sabby,
george
youssef
valley,
the
head
of
our
immigrant
advancement,
willa
nuha,
who
works
in
fair
housing,
so
many
people
on
the
chat
that
are
here
they're
interested
in
the
work
you're
doing
so,
I'm
gonna
stop
talking
there
and
I'm
gonna
turn
it
back
over
to
you,
madam
chair,
because
I
know
your
agenda's
full
and
you
didn't
come
to
hear
me
rambling
on,
so
you
came
here
to
hear
you
guys.
A
Well,
thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
you
know.
I
think
one
of
the
reasons
that
the
commissioners
are
here
is
because
of
you
in
the
in
the
commitment
you
have,
and
and
because
of
some
of
these
people
you
import,
you
have
appointed
joyce
and
john
barros
and
marty
martinez.
A
All
of
us
are
anxious
to
work
with,
because
we
know
that
all
of
them
joined
us
in
this
same
effort
and
I'm
anxious
to
meet
carol
and
and
talk
with
her
and
we're
thrilled
that
she's
there
and
one
of
the
things
we
want
to
make
sure
of
is
that
we're
not
duplicating
what
other
people
are
doing
with
the
the
covid
task
force
at
work
and
the
things
they
have
found.
We
want
to
learn
from
them.
A
I'm
vandro
has
been
sitting
in
on
those
meetings,
but
there's
so
much
work
to
do
we
don't
we
don't
want
to
duplicate
what
other
people
are
doing,
whether
it's
women's
advancement
or
the
immigrant
advancement,
you
have
a
great
director
in
that
immigrant
office
he's
phenomenal.
I've
talked
to
him,
and
I
said
you
know
we're
so
lucky
to
have
you
here.
So
we
want.
I
think
envondro
is
in
the
is
in
the
perfect
place
to
do
that.
A
We
want
to
make
sure
we
know
everything
that's
going
on
and
we
don't
want
to
duplicate
those
efforts
or
the
efforts
that
wayne
budd
is
doing
or
lee
pelton
is
doing.
I
mean
we
want
to
know
what's
going
on
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
can
support
the
other
efforts
that
are
going
on,
but
not
duplicate
them,
because
it's
enough
to
do
that,
we
don't
have
to
all
be
working
on
the
same
issues
except
to
support
them.
Ivandor.
Do
you
want
to
make
some
remarks
here.
G
I'll
be
brief,
thank
you
madam
chair.
I
you
know,
I
had
in
fact,
written
a
whole,
a
powerpoint
presentation,
if
you
will
for
today,
but
I
you
know
at
some
point.
I
decided
that
this
is
not
about
me
not
about
my
day,
but
it's
about
our
day.
G
G
You
know
it's
parked
something
in
me.
As
you
all
know
I
had
been
on.
I
was
a
state
rep
for
quite
some
time
for
a
little
while
and
then
wanted.
G
G
So
again,
I
want
to
give
the
mayor
kudos
not
only
again
for
this,
for
this
commission,
but
as
someone
who's
working
government,
I've
seen
leadership
both
at
the
state
level
and
now
here
to
see
what
he's
been
able
to
do
over
the
past
several
months.
G
Taking
us
as
a
city
through
covert
19
has
been
unbelievable,
so
keep
up
to
work.
Good
work,
my
friend,
I
also
want
to
thank
all
the
people
on
your
team.
The
f
you
mentioned
all
of
them,
so
I
won't
go
through
through
mentioning
all
the
chiefs
and
the
heads
of
departments
that
are
here,
city
councilor.
I
see
an
anissa
here.
It
speaks
volumes
again
the
people
that
are
present
in
this
first
meeting,
as
we
start
to
the
amount
of
work
into
the
priority
into
the
importance
of
this
work.
G
Okay,
so
I
also
want
to
thank,
I
want
to
take
the
time
to
thank
the
chairs,
the
chair
and
the
commissioners.
All
of
you
come
from
different
parts
of
boston
bring
so
much
to
the
table.
I've
learned,
I
met
all
of
you
individually
and
learned
so
much
about
you
and
what
you
bring
and
I'm
excited
to
see
the
work
that
we're
going
to
do
together.
G
You
know
again,
I
I
had
prepared
remarks,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
you
know
what
the
mayor
said
is
exactly
what
I
wanted
to
say,
which
is
that
the
importance
of
this
commission
of
this
history
about
in
the
focus
that
he's
had
in
the
past
the
ability
to
stay
current
with
events,
particularly
what's
going
on
in
the
world
right
now,
whether
we're
talking
about
trump
and
his
administration
and
what
they're
doing
in
in
against
immigrants
or,
unfortunately,
the
the
vast
amount
of
killings
of
of
of
too
many
too
many
men
and
women.
G
That
look
like
me
so
to
me
to
be
in
this
position
to
potentially
affect
change
to,
to
benefit
the
city
of
boston
and
the
people
of
the
city
of
boston.
It's
a
great
honor,
it's
a
great
privilege
and
I'm
not
taking
it
very
lightly.
I
want
you
to
know
that
at
the
outset,
since
I
decided
I've
been
pushing
very
hard
for
this
day
and
I'm
very
excited
for
the
work
that
we
all
going
to
do
together
so
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
G
I'm
sure
I
left
someone
that
I
want
to
thank,
but
essentially
I'm
super
super
super
excited
to
get
started.
I
can't
wait
to
hear
from
the
commissioners
and
their
ideas
and
how
we
can
continue
to
support
and
uplift
the
people
of
boston
that
need
the
most.
So
thank
you
margaret.
A
Thank
you.
I
I
I
I
want
to
say
that
also,
I
think
that
timing
is
is
is
so
important
if
there
is
anybody
left
who
does
not
think
we
have
a
problem
here
in
boston
or
in
this
country,
then
they
must
have
their
eyes
and
ears
closed.
A
That
does
not
mean
they
they
did
not
buy
into
the
internet.
It
means
that
they
could
not
buy
into
the
internet.
I
this
is
2020
and
people
could
not
access
the
internet.
This
is
not
only
true
in
boston,
it's
true
around
the
country,
and
I
think
I
think
it's
one
of
the
things
that
was
on
the
mayor's
agenda.
It's
certainly
been
on
my
agenda
after
I
heard
that
that
kids
were
sitting
in
the
back
of
a
car,
so
they
could
access
the
internet.
A
That
was,
you
know,
attached
to
somewhere
else
and
in
these
parts
of
town
that
have
no
internet,
they
don't
they
don't
have
a
starbucks
either.
Those
are
the
parts
of
town
that
don't
have
the
internet.
A
I
think
it's
embarrassing
for
the
providers
that
there
are
parts
of
town
that
don't
they
have
literally
excised
from
this
opportunity
and
it's
true
not
just
from
education,
because
a
lot
of
education
now
will
be
remote
learning.
But
it's
true
in
terms
of
health
care,
I'm
on
the
board
of
beth,
israel,
leahy
health
and
one
of
the
things
we've
learned
that
tele
medicine
has
changed
and
when
you
think
about
underserved
populations
in
medicine,
you
can
think
about
now
you
don't
have
to
take
transportation
to
see
a
doctor.
A
You
don't
have
to
find
your
way
to
a
doctor.
You
can
now
do
it
online,
which
is
one
you
don't
need
a
babysitter
two.
You
don't
need
transportation,
you
don't
have
to
have
a
car
and
three
it
is
much
cheaper,
so
the
insurance
people
and
the
doctors
in
the
hospitals
are
figuring
out
what
you
have
to
pay
and
how
you
pay
it,
and
that
besides
education,
health
care
is
also
going
to
benefit
from
access
to
the
internet
in
underserved
populations,
plus
a
lot
of
other
ways.
A
I
mean
in
terms
of
information,
so
I
the
mayor,
put
this
on
our
agenda
and-
and
I
think
it's
something
that
we
need
to
look
at
for
sure,
and
immigrant
rights
is
one
of
the
things
he
talked
about
and
we
will
be
working
closely
with
the
immigrant
advancement
office.
I'm
sure
they
have
a
lot
of
suggestions
for
us,
as
does
the
kobe
task
force
and
racial
justice.
A
You
know
is
something
the
reason
we're
all
here
and
if,
if
people
don't
believe
that
there
is
an
issue
with
racial
justice
today,
then
they
never
will.
So
I
I'd
like
to
open
the
discussion
up
of
our
mission.
Now.
The
original
human
rights
commission
had
a
more
traditional
mission
in
that
it
received
complaints
from
individuals
and
it
investigated
those
complaints.
A
To
be
honest,
it
only
of
120
individuals
who
filed
complaints,
a
very
small
portion
of
them
were
investigated
and
resolved,
and
I
I
have
thought
about
this
a
lot
and
looked
at
other
cities
and
other
places.
A
In
other
words,
if,
if,
if
the
city
of
boston
has
parts
of
boston
that
don't
have
internet
and
they
happen
to
be
parts
of
boston,
where
a
lot
of
black
and
brown
people
live,
where
a
lot
of
poor
people
live,
that's
a
pattern
and
a
practice,
and
it's
something
we
should
look
at
so
and
if,
if
we
found,
as
I
found
that
you
know,
people
were
afraid
to
go
to
certain
food
banks.
A
Why
were
they?
They
were
immigrants
who
were
afraid
to
go
to
food
banks,
because
they
were
afraid
that
that
they
would
be
intercepted
by
the
police.
Who
would
then
then
report
them
to
ice,
so
there
are
issues
to
deal
with
and
they
are
a
pattern
and
a
practice.
A
What
I
think
we
owe
everyone
in
boston
is
if
they
have
an
individual
complaint.
I
think
our
responsibility
is
to
ensure
that
they
know
where
to
go
for
that
particular
complaint.
If
it's
housing
or
it's
employment
discrimination,
they
can
employment
discrimination.
They
can
go
to
a
mass
commission
against
discrimination
and
I
think
our
job
is
to
ensure
that
they
know
where
to
go,
that
they
get
good
service
and
if
they
don't,
they
come
back
to
us
and
that
we're
there
to
support
them.
A
But
I
would
hope
that
our
role
is
a
broader
one
that
has
broader
impact
than
just
one
individual,
but
that
we
could
spend
our
time
solving
important
issues
that
affect
and
impact
a
broad
range
of
individuals
like
the
impact
having
access
for
everyone
in
boston
to
the
internet.
So
I
I'd
like
to
hear
your
responses
to
what
you
think.
We
should
be
doing
and
what
it
would
look
like.
L
D
I
would
like
to
just
make
a
brief
comment.
I
I
think
some
of
the
things
that
we
should
look
at
the
hrc
should
look
at
this
just
personally
how
black
men
have
been
in
black
boys
have
been
marginalized
since
for
the
past
400
years
and
how
it
really
hasn't
come
to
the
forefront
of
looking
at
it
in
a
way
where
we
can
talk
about.
D
How
do
we
help
and
not
to
minimize
the
black
community
or
black
women
or
others,
but
looking
at
how
systematically,
over
the
past
couple
hundred
years,
there's
been
a
focus
attack
on
black
males
from
mass
incarceration
education,
homicides
and,
of
course
we
wanted,
because
when
I'm
a
public
health
person,
I
look
at
surveillance
and
beta
all
the
time
and
of
course
we
look
at
the
disportion
of
risk
factors
that
come
into
play
with
men
of
color.
D
I
don't
think
there's
enough,
echoing
of
the
importance
of
supporting
deep
traumatizing
and
uplifts
of
black
males
and
black
men
in
america,
specifically
even
in
our
town,
I
think
there
should
be
some
much
more
focused
effort
on
that.
So
we
can
start
the
healing
process,
so
everyone
would
get
a
benefit
from
that.
That's
black
women,
that's
children,
that's
communities
and
people
in
general.
D
I
think
there's
been
a
less
focus
on
that
and
more
focus
on
the
general
aspect
of
racism
versus
what's
currently
been
happening
for
the
past
couple
hundred
years.
A
Yeah
I
want
to
go
on,
but
at
some
point
I
want
to
come
back
to
that
because
I
think
you're
I
would
agree
with
you
absolutely
right
and
but
also
at
some
point.
We
want
to
go
back
we're
going
to
make
a
list
here,
but
go
back
and
think
about
we'll
put
this
on
the
list,
but
have
a
further
discussion.
Whether
it's
just
meeting
the
nickname
or
whatever
is,
is
what
that
means
right.
I
think
you're
right,
but
what
does
it
mean?
What
what
would
we
do?
What
what?
A
What
would
we
or
help
others
to
do
so?
Yes,.
B
Yes,
you
know
the
main
feature
for
the
juvenile
court
was
the
boston,
public
schools
and
90
of
those
kids
that
came
in
front
of
me
were
black
and
brown
children
and
they
were
there
for
childhood
behavior,
which,
in
my
mind,
was
not
criminal
most
of
the
time,
and
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
the
pattern
of
not
just
the
boston
public
schools
but
the
private
schools,
the
charter
schools,
and
how
they
over
criminalize
our
children,
because
it
really
bothered
me
then
most
of
those
cases
never
went
anyplace,
but
yet
they
have
it
on
their
records
and
we
need
to
work
with
the
boston
public
schools
to
stop
this.
B
The
second
thing
I
live
in
roxbury
the
grove
falls
section
and
I
have
amazon.
I
do
not
get
the
same
service
as
someone
who
lives
in
jp,
and
that
is
not
just
here
from
chicago.
The
same
thing
is
true
in
chicago.
If
you
live
in
a
black
community,
we
don't
get
one
day
servant,
it's
not
possible
and
I
think
those
are
the
little
things,
those
subtle
things
that
they
do
to
our
community,
that
demean
us
and
make
our
community
less
than
other
communities.
E
Yes,
on
my
part,
in
addition
to
raising
awareness
and
monitoring
compliance,
I
think,
if
I
interpret
our
the
documents
well,
we
have
the
power
to
to
hold
hearings,
public
hearings
and
also
to
issue
reports.
E
E
A
F
One
thing
I
think,
as
the
commissioner
I'm
interested
in,
is
consistently
looking
at
structural
issues,
where
institutional
practices
have
clearly
gone,
awry
or
gone
in
an
area
that
of
concern,
and
I
think
that
can
happen
at
a
multitude
of
levels
and
affect
lots
of
different
populations.
F
F
I
feel
that
a
lot
of
groups
don't
have
ability,
even
when
they're
pointed
in
certain
directions,
but
they
need
a
public
forum
to
help
shine
the
light
on
some
of
these
issues
and
also
raise
consciousness
about
them.
So
that's
my
my
view
of
it.
A
So,
transparency
and
and
access
to
information
that's
easily
accessible
as
opposed
to
taking
a
lot
of
time
and
not
only
time
but
ability
to
to
find
it.
Sometimes
it's
there.
But
it's
hard
to
find
that's,
but.
F
Also,
I
think
I
also
think,
there's
a
meaningful
role
to
ask
the
questions,
whereas
sometimes
I
think
there
can
be
a
hierarchical
or
institutional
response
that
checks
all
the
boxes
but
misses
the
underlying
current
of
when
people
have
feelings.
F
It's
for
a
reason-
and
you
know
someone
feels
like
they're
wronged
in
a
situation
we
can
point
out
the
situation,
checked
all
the
boxes
and
followed
the
complaint
chart,
but
if
the
chart
itself
is
fundamentally
flawed,
it's
hard
to
it's
hard
to
raise
that
if
there's
not
a
neutral,
open
forum,
so
I
think
that's
something
that
the
human
rights
commission
could
really
rise
to
the
challenge
and
really
empower
the
city
to
help
some.
Some
tough
lessons
to
be
learned
in
some
communication
about
those
issues
right.
E
I
I
do
think
the
report
writing
and
the
public
hearing
function
that
you
mentioned
is,
I
think,
a
really
important
one,
because
I
I
also
was
struggling.
You
look
at
the
way
that
the
ordinance
is
drafted
and
it's
very
much
like
mcad
and
at
the
time
of
its
founding,
the
commission
really
had.
I
think,
a
big
value
add
because
there
were
categories
of
people
who
were
being
discriminated
against,
who
couldn't
go
to
mcat
right,
but
mcad
is
sort
of
caught
up
with
us.
I
I
I
would
agree
with
the
chair
that
I
I
don't
know
that
processing
a
bunch
of
one-off
complaints
really
adds
value.
I
don't
know
if
we
can
decline
complaints
that
come
in
from
from
citizens,
but
I
I'm
not
sure
that
we
should
really
be
encouraging
the
use
of
the
commission
on
those
one-off
things
and
instead
focusing
more
on
the
systemic
things
and
more
on.
I
You
know
the
impacts
on
neighborhoods
that
that
correlate
with
impacts
on
protected
groups,
but
I
do
wonder
if
that
that
is
best
done
through
kind
of
a
report:
writing
public
hearing
type
function
or
through
the
complaint
process,
but
through
complaints
that
we
ourselves
initiate
investigations
for,
because
their
complaints
about
real
structural
systemic
problems,
not
one-off.
A
So
in
the
civil
rights
division,
the
justice
department,
we
would
sort
of
do
exactly
what
you're
talking
about
analyze.
Think
about
what
are
the
big
issues
and
then
and
in
what
part
of
the
country
were
they
most
problematic,
and
then
we
would
go
investigate
and
find
people
who
were
having
those
problems.
A
A
There
are
people
who
were
referred
to
ice
and
by
the
police,
so
we've
heard
that
that's
a
problem,
so
you'd
go
find
people
of
families
and
if
that's
a
problem,
you
would
go
investigate
that
issue
and
then
find
the
people
who
represent
that
issue.
If
you
were
thinking
about
schools
in
terms
of
the
bps
problem
with
school
to
jail
and
and
how
and
also
how
black
and
brown
kids
are
treated
in
terms
of
discipline,
I
just
have
to
tell
you
one
story.
A
A
Four-Year-Olds
I
was
like
as
a
four-year-old.
What
do
you
have
to
do
to
be
suspended,
I
mean,
and
where
do
you
go?
What
do
you
do
and
if
40
of
four
year
olds
were
suspended,
you
know
so
that
and
the
race
issue
in
terms
of
discipline
in
schools
is
significant
now
that
is
something
that
the
that
the
state
has
taken
on
and
it
has
improved,
but
it's
still
an
issue
and
it's
an
issue
in
the
charter.
A
Schools
as
well,
that
are
very
discipline
based,
so
and
and
but
I
I
have
always
been
concerned
about
the
suspensions,
the
significant
number
of
suspensions,
because
that's
one
indication
of
of
differential
treatment
as
well.
A
All
right,
who
have
we
not
heard
from
we've,
got
a
lot
if
we
can
fix
all
of
these
we'll
be
we'll
be
good.
You
know.
G
I'll
start
I'll
pitch
him
briefly,
I
think
you
all
hit
on
a
nail,
because
really
there
are
so
many
different
things
we
could
be
doing
and
as
as
commissioner
or
my
good
friend
ben
said,
is
back
in
the
80s
when
they
created
there
was
a
gap
right
in
terms
of
particularly
gay
rights.
G
Now,
a
lot
of
that,
particularly
in
our
state,
is
sort
of
covered.
I
think
I
think
I
believe
that
mtad
has
more
protected
classes,
as
we
say
in
constitutional
law
than
we
do.
I
think
they
recently
or
past
few
years,
and
I
think
I
might
even
been
on
beacon
hill
at
that
point,
where
they
had
pregnant
being
pregnant
right
as
as
as
one
of
the
protected
classes.
So
I
think
two
things
I
want
to
leave
with
that.
G
One
is
is
for
us
to,
as
we
discuss
priorities
to
sort
of
figure
out
and
mark
mckenna
mentioned.
This
earlier
is
to
figure
out
where's
the
lane
that
we
can
take
and
be
impactful
right,
because
there
are
particularly
as
of
late
after
covet,
with
the
funds
that
have
been
been
started
through
the
city,
with
the
departments
that
we're
going
to
be
working
with,
there's
a
lot
of
work
being
done
in
a
lot
of
these
spaces.
So
I
think
what
we
have
to
think
about
as
we
go
forward.
One
is
narrow.
G
Our
focus
at
least
as
we
get
off
the
gate.
Two
is
is
figure
out
that
lane,
though,
where
we
can
add
value
right,
we
can
be
a
partner
to
to
immigrant
advancement
or
women
advancement
or-
or
you
know,
so.
Those
I
think,
that's
to
me
over
the
over
the
months
has
been
sort
of
what's
been
nerve-wracking.
G
Is
that
I
think
our
lane
there's
too
many
lanes
it's
the
way
we
choose
the
lane
and,
secondly,
we
can
envision
the
the
work
of
the
commission
going
forward
in
the
sense
that
we
can
make
recommendation,
obviously
to
the
mayor
and
the
city
council
to
our
to
modify
it
to
get
it
to
where
we
are
now
right.
If,
if,
if
the
parameters
of
the
law,
the
ordinance
as
was
written
in
1984-
and
I
think
it
was
amended
in
2002-
do
not
sit
well
with
us
is
where
do
we
go
right?
G
Because
the
law
is
is
often
said,
is
a
live
document
right,
so
we
have
to
reflect
the
needs
of
the
society
and
the
communities
that
we
serve
now.
So
I
guess
that's
my
only
piece
is:
is
the
lane
and
I've
been?
I've
talked
to
many
of
you
and
I
see
a
lot
of
the
the
folks
that
have
been
participating,
whether
the
heads
of
department
use
the
feed.
Certainly
I
talked
to
him
about
this
joyce
lernaghan.
I
see
her
and
there's
so
many
people
that
have
sort
of
said.
Okay.
G
Where
is
this
lane
that
we
can
go
and
be
impactful,
because
we
don't
want
to
duplicate
a
lot
of
the
work
that
city
departments,
non-profits
and
other
agencies,
including
mcad?
The
eoc
are
the
one
on
a
daily
basis,
because
I
think
we
can
be
more
impactful
if
we
can
find
that
lane
now
that
lane,
I
guess,
is
where
we
we
need
to
get
to
what
is
it.
C
I
I
agree,
certainly
with
what
everyone
has
said.
I
think
now
also
is
a
time
where.
J
C
And
so
I
don't
want
to
forget
that
either
and
I
think
with
with
the
heightened
awareness
of
racism,
comes
more
racist
actions,
so
I
feel
like
we
should
also
sort
of
be
watchful
of
what
happens
in
our
city
and
what's
going
on,
because
I
have,
I
have
seen
an
increase
in
racist
comments
on
facebook
and
out
there,
and
I
think
that
we
we
should
look
for
patents.
We
should
do
all
those
things,
but
I
think
this
is
going
to
be
an
emerging
issue
for
the
city
of
boston.
C
D
Yeah,
I
was
just
thinking
that
you
know,
since
the
hrc
has
been
commissioned
from
the
past
administration
they're
the
credibility
issues
that
we
have
to
deal
with.
Everyone
knows,
and
I
talk
to
a
lot
of
people,
a
lot
of
community
activists,
and
everybody
knows
it's
the
flavor
of
the
month
right
now.
Racism
is
like
the
buzzword,
even
though
people
have
been
impacted
by
it,
24
7.
D
D
A
D
Our
integrity
is
very,
very
important,
especially
coming
out
of
the
gate,
and
I
think
we
need
to
be
real,
careful
and
real
strategic
of
how
we
make
that
happen
versus
if
it's
going
for
a
black
man,
transgender
schools,
courts,
whatever
we
have
to
be
real
strategic
of
how
that
message
is
played.
There
are
a
lot
of
people.
D
Thousands
and
thousands
of
people
are
dealing
with
microaggressions
in
the
workplace,
in
housing,
in
their
corporate
environments,
in
schools
that
are
gonna,
come
and
depend
on
us
for
some
type
of
leadership,
and
that's
a
lot
a
whole
bunch.
D
Also,
that's
going
to
be
another
rubber
stamp
for
the
mayor,
and
I
said
people
who
know
me
know
that
that's
not,
who
I
am
and
and
my
integrity
to
my
community
and
to
the
city
is
one
that
I
cherish
like
my
life.
So
I
say
that
to
all
of
us
as
we
go
out
because
we're
coming
from
a
place
of
negatives,
trying
to
make
it
positive
because
of
you
know
the
the
hrc
has
not
been
in.
It's
been
inactive
for
so
long.
A
I
I
I
couldn't
agree
with
you
more.
I
sort
of
asked
the
question
same
question
before
I
agreed
and,
as
somebody
said
to
me,
do
you
think
the
mayor
would
have
asked
you
whose
middle
name
is
troublemaker.
A
Yeah,
if
if
this
was
going
to
be
a
rubber
stamp,
would
he
have
asked
you
and
I
well
you've
got
a
good
point
there.
A
So
you
know
this
commission
is
full
of
troublemakers,
so
I
don't
think
that
and
but
I
couldn't
agree
with
you
more,
you
know
it
can
be
just
another
group
right,
one
more
group
that
that
sort
of
plasters
over
decades,
hundreds
of
years
of
the
problem
and
black
lives
matter,
this
issue
matters,
and
it
can't
be
just
one
more
group
because
then
we
none
of
us
want
to
be
part
of
it
right.
A
So
we've
got
to
pick
intelligently.
We
can't
be
everything
to
everybody
at
the
same
time,
and
and
we've
got
to
do
it
well
and
with
integrity.
So
I
mean
I
to
pick
up
one
thing:
I'm
I
think
we
can
do
an
agreement
with
mcad
to
to
make
sure
they.
A
You
know
that
we
we're
in
agreement
with
them
about
handling
complaints,
so
that
we're
not
we're
not
just
ignoring
them
individual
complaints,
but
then,
I
think
all
the
things
we've
heard
just
now
I
mean
any
any
one
of
them
would
be
every
single
one
of
them
that
you
all
mentioned.
I
think
all
of
us
would
agree
with
all
of
them.
A
A
I
mean
we're
among
ourselves
and
we
represent
a
lot
of
different
constituencies
as
is
and
a
lot
of
us
a
number
of
years
decades
as
well,
but
you
know
are
there?
What
do
you
think?
Do
you
think
we
should
bring
people
in?
Do
you
think
we
individually
should
go
out?
Should
we
ask?
But
what
do
you
think
we
should
do
here
about
hearing
from
others.
D
I
think
I
think
we
should
have
some
type
of
open
process
to
bring
in
community
leadership
they're
talking
and
and
believe
me,
I'm
I'm
opening
up
a
can
of
worms
when
I
say
this
because
I
know
what
it's
like,
I
invite
folk
in,
and
I
know
the
folks
who
want
to
sit
and
and
talk
about.
You
know
the
water
burst
on
the
street
and
he
called
me
he
didn't
like
the
size
of
my
shoes.
D
I
don't
know,
but
I
think
it
becomes
really
important
to
the
one
be
transparent
to
the
community
at
hand
and
make
it
of
some
sort
of
way
of
making
us
available
and
I'm
not
saying
available
where
we
have
to
have
hearings
and
also
other
stuff.
I
don't
know
what
it
looks
like,
but
I
think
that
helps
build
and
let
people
know
that
we're
serious
about
it,
even
though,
when
you
have
those
things,
people
expect
change
to
happen
like
that
expect
something
to
happen
when
I
met
with
them.
D
Clearly,
understanding
that
it
can
become
a
bridge
for
us
for
the
the
many
people
that
we
know
in
this
space,
but
also
bringing
in
folks
who
we
don't
know,
and
one
thing
I've
realized
in
this
work
ever
since
I
was
a
kid,
is
that
when
you
start
hearing
the
same
thing,
somebody's
right
and
the
only
way
you
can
hear
the
same
thing
if
you're
out
there.
So
that's
just
a
a
slight
suggestion.
D
E
I
fully
fully
agree.
I
think
that
there
are
some
bodies
that
are
important,
that
we
communicate
with.
One
of
them
would
be
city,
council,
city
council
in
2011.
I
think,
proclaimed
boston
as
a
a
human
rights
city,
one
of
the
few
human
rights
cities
in
the
united
states.
E
So
I
think
we
have
some
connection
there
that
we
can
that
we
can
use.
E
I
think,
bringing
in
leadership
of
important
organizations
would
be
helpful
to
talk
to
us
and
it
would
be
equally
helpful
for
us
to
do
site
visits
or
maybe
we
can
go
into,
or
some
of
us
can
go
into
a
place
when
that
is
possible,
a
physical
place
and
listen
to
people
who
are
not
leaders
but
are
affected
by
the
conditions
that
we
have
built
in
our
societies.
C
I
agree,
I
think,
if
we
weren't
in
the
time
of
covid,
there
might
still
be
a
way
to
do
this
is
to
have
community
meetings
and
ask
the
community
what
issues
they
see
going
on
in
each
community
and
then
then
maybe
a
patent
would
reveal
itself
about
what
we
should
really
be.
Looking
at
yeah.
A
A
You
know.
I
learned
that
in
philanthropy
is
that
a
lot
of
philanthropists
assume
they
know
what
people
need
without
asking
people
in
a
community
what
they
want
or
need?
That's
why
you
know
some
philanthropy
is
wasted,
because
philanthropy
is
run
by
a
sort
of
elite
group
of
white
people,
and
so
there
are
a
lot
of
assumptions
made.
A
So
I
do
think
it's
important
to
hear
voices.
Now
we
shouldn't
spend
the
next
year
listening
to
voices.
I
really
think
we
should
be
an
action
oriented
as
I've
heard
you
say,
so
we
ought
to
figure
out.
You
know
how
to
do
this,
and
we
can
do
this
to
hear
voices
and
voices
can
be
in
writing
as
well
as
they
can
be
orally.
We
have
to
hear
them.
We
can
invite
people,
you
know
in
a
number
of
ways
to
tell
us
what
they
think
the
major
issues
are
and
what
we
can
be
doing
about
them.
A
We
have
hearing
power,
we
have
subpoena
power,
we
you
know
we
can
and-
and
we
can
issue
reports
so
and
we
can,
you
know,
get
the
support
of
the
mayor
on
issues
and
I
definitely
think
the
city
council
was
about
to
do
something
like
this
and
when
this
was
created.
So
I
do
think
some
some
discussion
with
the
city
council
or
the
head
of
the
city.
President
city
council
is
important
to
do.
A
G
G
How
can
we
work
with
what
we
got,
which
is
which
is
work
through
zoom,
primarily
to
get
some
some
feedback
around
some
of
the
issues
that
we
that
we
focus
that
we
already
mentioned
and
listen
to
people
about
their
own
issues,
and
so
we
can
try
to
figure
out.
How
do
we
narrow
things
down?
I
did
see
I
do
want
to
see.
G
I
do
see
that
some
people
put
their
hands
up
some
put
their
hands
up
and
went
down.
We
are
going
to
have
a
public
sort
of
session
comments
in
a
little
bit,
so
I
just
want
to
be.
Let
people
know
that
in
case
they
missed
the
agenda
in
the
beginning.
So
in
a
few
a
little
while
we're
going
to
have
people
raise
their
hands
and
of
course
you
can
ask
questions,
you
can
make
comments
and
such
all
right
so
just
for
the
attendees.
C
C
A
K
F
I
did
I
just
sorry
to
cuddle.
I
just
want
to
add,
from
my
point
of
view,
it's
very
important
that
we
look
at
as
we
create
systems
for
communication,
both
with
the
greater
community
and
as
we
do
our
work
going
forward.
I
think
we
should
be
cognizant
about
not
just
the
barriers
of
technology,
but
also
linguistically
and
and
issues
of
access
of
disability.
F
Some
of
some
some
ways
in
which
I
know
technology
can
help,
but
sometimes
as
we're
just
talking
about
the
internet,
access
pc,
that's
another
barrier
to
challenge,
and
if
we're,
I
think
we
should
be
making
sure
that
we're
opening
to
both
diverse
voices
and
sometimes
voices
that
can't
be
heard-
and
I
think,
there's
ways
that
can
be
done.
F
But
I
think
it's
important
as
we
start
looking
at
going
forward,
how
we
make
that
more
structural
for
our
point
of
view,
both
if
it's
translators
adaption
of
technology
but
making
sure
that
sometimes
the
voices
aren't
heard
for
a
reason
and
it's
the
people
in
power's
fault
and
since
we're
in
that
position.
Now
I
think
it's.
We
should
be
very
cognizant
of
that.
A
Yeah,
I
think
we
should,
in
it
and
and
susan
and
andre,
we
ought
to
see
what
the
city
council
is
doing
in
the
school
committee.
What
are
they
doing?
I
mean
they
certainly
have
these
issues
and
I
know
they're
doing.
I
know
that
they've
looked
at
these
issues
and
found
solutions,
so
we
ought
to.
We
don't
have
to
invent
the
wheel
here,
let's
figure
out
what
other
people
are
doing,
who
have
public
meetings,
because
I
I
agree
with
you:
we
we
can't.
A
We
can't
reinforce
now
the
bad
things
that
we're
trying
to
fix.
So
exactly.
We
ought
to
be
a
model,
not
a
mirror
of
what
we're
trying
to
do
here.
D
We
call
them,
we
call
them
drop
computers
where
we
would
drop
them
at
a
non-profit
that
didn't
have
access
and
with
a
hot
spot
if
they
didn't
have
access
to
the
internet,
and
then
they
could
hop
onto
a
zoom
call
at
that
particular
site
and
also
had
translators
in
some
places
I
mean,
if
you
have
a
little
resources.
D
There
are
some
very
innovative
ways
to
make
this
happen,
because
it's
not
unique
to
us.
A
lot
of
people
have
already
basically
put
some
pretty
interesting
things
together
to
give
access
to
those
who
haven't
had
access
prior
yeah.
A
Well,
the
blessed
public
school
dropped
about,
I
think,
was
153
hot
spots
to
reach
kids
that
didn't
have
access
in
the
spring.
So
that's
a
temporary
solution.
However,
so
I
guess
what
I
would
suggest
is
that.
A
That
the
commissioners
send
to
susan
and
vandro
anybody.
You
think
we
should
talk
to
our
organizations
that
we
should
talk
to
or
invite
in
and
let's
see
if
we
can
make
some
sense
out
of
that,
and
I
would
suggest
sooner
rather
than
later,
let's
listen
to
people,
but
then
let's
decide
to
move
forward
on
something
one
of
the
things
I
would
like
to
do.
If
you
agree,
is
this
issue
of
internet?
No,
one
really
has
the
exact
data,
but
I've
been
doing.
A
The
internet
is
how
it
affects
structure
and
this
this
organization
has
a
tool
that
you
can
use
in
your
own
city,
and
so
we
did
that
we
being
my
son
did
that
the
royal?
We
is
not
me
it's
my
son,
who
is
a
extraordinary
techie
technologist
and
he
just
needs
a
little
more
information,
maybe
from
the
city,
and
we
could
produce
a
map
mike.
You
want
to
put
up
the
map
that
you
got
already
to
show.
Can
you
do
that.
A
A
There's
like
none-
and
I
don't
want
you
to
totally
rely
on
this,
because
it's
not
done
right
mike.
It's
it's
pretty
accurate,
but
it's
not
as
finished
as
I
would
like,
but
you
you
will
see
it's
it's
weird,
because
you'll
see
something
where
there's
almost
a
hundred
percent
access
next
to
a
place
where
there's
less
than
seven
percent
access,
so
that
there's
a
story.
There
there's
a
story
there
and
there
are
also
a
story
about
people
who
have
you
know
low
low,
a
slow.
A
I
should
say
internet
as
opposed
to
you
know
fast
internet,
so
we'd
like
I
think
we
would
like
be
helpful
to
have
data
that
we
can
really
rely
on
to
make
this
case
and
then
to
see
what
we
can
do
about
it.
A
So
I'm
not
sure
what
the
right
answer
is,
but
the
only
way
you
can
get
the
right
answer
is
to
have
the
right
data.
I'm
a
real,
a
believer
in
having
the
right
data,
so
I'm
suggesting
that
we
put
my
son
to
work
but
his
mother's
to
say
in
his
mother's
good
graces.
That's
all
that's
when
he
gets
paid
so,
but
it's
fascinating
just
to
look
at
what
we
have
so
far.
So,
okay,
thanks
mike.
A
So
so
people
move
on
to
move
on,
so
if
you
would
send
evondro
or
susan
your
list
of
names
or
organizations
that
you
should
and
after
we
have
the
list,
I
will
share
it
with
all
of
you
with
the
commissioners
and
we
will
prioritize
it
and
we
will
ask
people
either
to
come
personally
or
to
send
in
a
written
response
in
terms
of
suggestions
and
then
what
I
would
do
is
I
would
like
to
meet
in
in
july.
A
If
we
can
do
that
in
a
couple
of
weeks,
because
we
waited
a
long
time
to
get
this
going
and
I'd
like
to
really
move
at
a
pace.
If
we
could,
if
people
agree
with
that,
to
really
see
if
we
can
work
on
some
of
the
issues
that
you
raised
this
evening,
people
want
to
comment
on
those
suggestions.
A
Does
that
seem
reasonable
that
we
you
send
in
the
send
in
the
information
and
then
we
share
it
and
see
if
we
can
figure
out
who
to
listen
to,
and
can
they
write
it?
Now
we
have
to
figure
out
if
andre
are
going
to
leave
blueprints
you.
We
have
a
lot
of
lawyers
on
this
in
terms
of
open
meeting
laws.
How
we
do
all
of
this,
but
you'll
figure
it
out,
make
sure
we
do
it
correctly.
A
Okay,
you
want
to
make
sure
we
comply.
Okay,
so
other
comments,
we're
going
to
go
to
public
comments,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
the
commissioners
have
a
chance
to
make
comments.
Anybody
else.
I
So
is
this
going
to
be
by
invitation
only
or
are
we
going
to
make
additional
efforts
for
outreach,
because
I
I
I
do
think
that
it's
important
to
make
those
efforts,
and
I
want
to
ex
what
rob
said
about
language
access.
I
I'm
sure
the
city
has
a
language
access
policy
or
plan,
but
I
think
particularly
for
the
sort
of
work
that
we're
doing.
We
may
want
to
go
above
and
beyond
what
the
ordinary
thing
is
there.
So
we
can
make
sure
that
we
just
make
every
community
aware
of
what
it
is
that
we're
doing
so
they
have
the
opportunity
to
to
weigh
in
if,
if
they
so
choose,.
A
Well,
all
the
meetings
have
public
comment
opportunities,
but
it
is
a
question
about
how
people
find
out
about
it
and
the
access
to
the
internet
right.
So
we
need.
We
probably
need
some
help
with
that,
because
I'm
sure
other
people
have
faced
this
problem
in
terms
of
the
city,
council
and
the
school
committee.
So
maybe
andrew
you
could
talk
to
some
of
them
and.
G
G
So
that's
one
of
the
pieces
that
we're
trying
to
put
together
to
make
sure
that
all
different
language
of
being
heard,
perhaps
though,
what
we
could
do
in
shape
or
form
whether
it's
a
press
conference,
not
press
conference,
a
press
release,
whether
is
is
a
message
on
our
website
that
we're
gonna
work
on
find
a
way
to
say
to
people
say:
send
us
your
comments
right
in
well
again,
it
could
be
many
different
methods,
so
that
folks
know
that,
right
now
with
this,
we
want
to
hear
from
them
whether
they
come
in
to
zoom
and
log
in
right
now
or
later
like
they
send
me
an
email,
they
call.
G
So
I
think
we
just
put
out
something
that
we
find
a
way
to
get
the
message
out
there
that
we
up
and
running
we
want
to
hear
from
people.
You
know
now
sort
of
thing.
I
think
that's
one
way
to
also
remedy
some,
as
we
start
getting.
Obviously
we're
gonna
hopefully
meet
in
the
next
couple
weeks
or
so
so
I
think
that's
might
be
a
way
to
kind
of
get
ahead
of
it.
Now.
A
E
I
see
in
the
audience
there
is
jennifer
vivan
wong,
who
is
a
a
former
student
of
mine
and
works
for
the
city
of
boston
in
an
office
that
is
exactly
for
language
access
and,
I'm
sure
very,
very
interested,
and
I
think
several
people
from
that
office
are
in
fact
attending
this
meeting.
And
of
course,
if
anything
comes
in
spanish,
you
can
give
it
to
me.
D
D
Even
if
we
don't
know
why
we're
here,
but
we
have
to
put
something
out
there,
basically
stating
that
you
know
why
we're
here
and
your
voice
is
important
and
we
want
to
make
sure
it's
hurt.
I
think
we
got
to
be
more
public
because
of
the
past.
You
know
we've
been
doing
it
for
such
a
very
long
time
and
we
don't
want
to
seem
like
we're
reacting
to
the
current
trend.
Right
now,
black
lives
matter
racism,
all
that
stuff.
D
A
Yeah,
I
agree
so
maybe
we
one
of
the
things
we
ought
to
do
is
is
think
about
a
press
release
after
this
first
meeting
or
sometime
did
talk
about
our
work
and
talk
about
some
of
the
things
where
we're
looking
at
and
and
one
of
the
things
we're
doing
is
we
want
to
open
up
here
from
community
and
communities
about
their
most
pressing
issues,
make
sense
and
give
them
a
way
to
to
reach
us
yeah
through
mail
through
the
internet
through
over
a
telephone
number.
A
So
we
ought
to
think
about
how
to
do
that,
and
we
have
a
couple
of
people
on
the
chat
who
have
said
they
would
like
to
talk
to
us,
so
we
can
follow
up
with
some
of
them,
so
the
commission
do
you
have
anything
else.
We'll
move
to
the
public
comment.
H
So
we
do
have
a
couple
people
that
raise
their
hand
like
yesenia,
so
I'm
going
to
allow
yesenia
to
talk
just
so
you
know
you
have
two
minutes.
I
will
give
you
a
minute
when
it's
30
seconds
left.
I
am
not
the
bad
guy
here.
If
I
cut
you
off
I'm
so
sorry
here
is
yesenia.
M
Hi,
thank
you
so
much
for
having
me,
and
I
I
feel
like
everyone
has
brought
up
all
the
issues
that
everyone
has
brought
up.
I
work
in
the
medical
field.
I
work
in
the
city
of
boston
and
we
deal
with
these
issues
on
a
daily
basis
and
and
just
not
being
able
to
communicate
because
of
language
barriers
or
what
I
see
in
my
community
I'm
born
and
raised
in
boston,
I'm
from
roxbury
dorchester,
I'm
from
all
over
boston.
M
I
just
see
that
we
don't
know
where
to
go.
We
don't
know
who
to
talk
to
we.
I
speak
for
a
lot
of
people
in
my
community
for
the
young
kids
for
the
older
people.
We
do
feel
sometimes
shunned
out
and
we
feel,
like
you
know.
M
How
can
we
be
heard
if
we
don't
know
if
anybody's
listening
or
if
they
don't
understand
us
in
our
language?
One
of
the
biggest
concerns
I
have
my
father
is
an
inmate
at
norfolk
facility
and
one
of
the
questions
that
I'm
interested
in
knowing
is
what
aid,
if
any,
is
being
provided
to
inmates,
with
pre-existing
conditions
who
are
not
being
transported
to
the
proper
medical
facilities.
M
To
address
their
medical
ailments
beyond
the
infirmary
with
the
jails,
and
you
know
the
reason
that
that
pertains
to
our
communities,
because
black
and
brown
communities
have
always
been
targeted.
Our
men
with
the
policing
and
being
brought
into
jail
and
things
of
that
nature
and.
M
G
And
folks,
please
raise
your
hands
too.
If
you
are,
this
is
the
time
to
raise
your
hands.
I
know
some
of
you
did
earlier,
but
this
is
the
time.
So
we
can,
you
know,
maybe
everyone
will
be
back.
H
E
H
N
Myself
and
ivanka
have
had
lots
of
conversations
and
really
what
I
have
to
say
is
that
we
we
actually
are
twin
agencies.
In
fact
we
are.
We
are
different
sides
of
the
same
coin.
The
only
difference
is
that,
where
we
are
limited
is
where
you
can
go
much
further
to
answer
one
of
your
questions
as
far
as
mcad
goes,
you
guys
have
all
the
protected
classes
that
they
have
it's
a
state
thing.
So
boston
is
covered
under
that.
That's
one
two.
N
We
would
love
to
meet
with
you
guys
and
share
some
of
our
processes
with
you,
because
I
think
we
can
definitely
help
you
in
a
lot
of
the
ways
we
do
the
same
exact
thing
that
you
guys
have
all
been
talking
about
for
the
last
few
minutes
as
far
as
processing,
we
do
the
same
exact
thing,
so
we
would
love
to
meet
with
you
at
a
time.
That's
convenient
for
you,
where
we
can
talk
with
your
commissioners
in
fact
invite
our
commissioners
to
meet
with
your
commissioners.
N
N
N
Got
it,
commissioner,
blakely,
because
I
think
it's
really
important
for
this
commission
to
I
mean
you
don't
want
to
feel
like
you're
drinking
from
a
fire
hose.
I
know
it's
going
to
feel
that
way
at
first,
so
because
I
probably
have
10
seconds
left.
Let
me
just
say
that
we're
glad
to
have
you
guys
and
we
would
love
to
continue
this
discussion
with
you.
Thank
you.
A
I
don't
think
so.
Is
there
anybody
else,
susan,
if
not
we'll,
move
on.
L
Hi
good
evening,
my
name
is
jennifer
hi,
professor
commissioner.
I
just
wanted
to
jump
in
and
briefly
say
so
I
am
the
learning
and
development
coordinator
for
the
mayor's
office
of
language
and
communications
access,
and
I
know
that
myself
and
our
team
would
love
to.
You
know
talk
further
with
you
all
to
figure
out
how
to
integrate
language
access
within
like
your
future
meetings.
That
was
just
my
brief
comment
and,
of
course,
it's
an
honor
to
be
able
to
input
this
information
here.
Thank
you
so
much
thank.
A
You
and
I
know
anista
isabe
george
was
here
city
councilor,
but
she
has
signed
off.
She
had
another
commitment.
O
Good
evening,
I'd
like
to
say
congratulate
everybody.
For
this
occasion,
this
is
a
a
great
forum.
I
think
that
is
here
I'd
just
like
to
say
a
little
bit,
I'm
a
lifelong
resident
of
roxbury,
a
former
school
teacher,
and
I
think
that.
A
H
Is
there
anyone
else?
I
do
not
see
anyone
else.
If
anybody
else
would
like
to
s,
have
a
comment
or
a
question:
please
raise
your
hand
or
type
it
into
the
chat.
We
will
wait.
Two
minutes
for
phone
call
phone
call
and
listeners.
A
Thanks
susan,
so.
K
Hello
chair,
madam
chairman,
can
I
director
of
andrew
and
all
the
commissioners?
I
just
want
to
congratulate
you
on
launching
this,
the
the
commission
and
the
meeting,
and
I
just
we're
really
looking
forward
to
working
in
tandem
with
you
all,
and
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
you
know,
as
as
I've
been
listening
to
the
conversation
the
thought
I've
I've
had.
Is
that
there's
a
lot
of
fear
among
our
immigrant
community
and
I
do
think,
the
human
rights
commission
with
the
name
human
rights
in
it.
K
I
I
just
wonder
if
it
has
a
particular
kind
of
resonance
to
our
immigrant
communities
and
therefore
makes
you
more
accessible
than
any
other
part
of
city
government
and
so
as
you're
thinking
about
your
priorities
and
next
steps.
Just
we
just
want
you
to
keep
that
in
mind
that
you
may
be
uniquely
positioned
in
a
way
that
no
other
city.
K
So
I
I
don't
know
exactly
what
that
means
in
terms
of
future,
because
I
totally
appreciate
the
systematic
approach
that
you
want
to
want,
as
opposed
to
the
individual
approach,
but
but
something
to
certainly
factor
in
as
your
thinking
through
your
priorities.
So
thank.
A
You
so
much
I
I
tend
to
agree
with
you,
because
human
rights
is
something
all
over
the
world.
That's
understood
where,
as
opposed
to
civil
rights,
which
have
a
different
connotation
in
different
parts
of
the
world,
but
human
rights
is
recognizable,
I
think,
and
more
recognizable
to
immigrants,
more
approachable.
A
I
think
that's
right
and
we
are
looking
forward
to
working
with
you
for
sure,
since
the
mayor
put
that
first
on
his
agenda,
so
we're
definitely
looking
forward
to
working
with
you
and
and,
for
instance,
we'd
love
to
know
what
you
would
put
on
our
agenda.
A
A
What
are
the
two
or
three
things
that
we
should
be
looking
at
researching
investigating
talking
to
people
about
writing
a
report
on
doing
you
know
what
what
are
the
two
or
three
things
that
are
most
important
and
one
of
the
things
I
think
we
should
think
about.
A
I
think
that
there
are
possibilities
of
bringing
in
you
know,
students
from
colleges
whether
they
are
law,
students
or
students
who
are
in
master's
programs,
doing
some
research
a
little
more
complicated
these
days,
because
we
don't
know
where
students
are
being
going
to
be
doing
what,
but
I
think
it's
possible
to
get
some
other
help,
because
that's
what
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
is
research
as
opposed
to
traditional
investigators,
data
and
and
some
research.
A
So,
but,
but
we
definitely
like
to
hear
from
the
immigrant
office
to
see
what
you
think
should
be
on
our
agenda.
G
Just
so,
just
to
add
on
to
what
you
were
saying
margaret,
there
has
been
several
schools,
some
of
which
are
local
schools
that
reached
out
to
me
over
the
months,
including
including
umass,
boston,
northeast
and
harvard,
in
fact,
my
my
law
school
howard
law
and
dc
reached
out.
So
I
think
we
we
we
should
be
able
to
have
interns
fellows.
You
know
you
know,
certainly
law,
students
and
policy
students
are
helping
us
out
as
we
look
forward.
A
Okay,
so
next
steps
we're
going
to
each
of
us
think
about
who
or
what
organizations
we
ought
to
hear
from.
Besides
the
immigration
office,
the
immigrant
office
at
the
immigration
office,
the
immigrant
office
and
we're
going
to
how
often
do
you
think
our
meeting
should
be
once
a
month.
E
I
think
once
a
month,
it's
good.
I
also
was
looking
at
the
the
archives
that
evangel
sent
us
and
the
previous
commission
was
meeting
twice
a
month
which
wouldn't
be
bad
if
we
are
making
progress
on
certain
issues.
E
Certainly
this
is
the
most
important
assignment
for
me
side
of
my
classes,.
D
Okay,
I
think
initially,
maybe
maybe
we
should-
we
should
have
twice
a
month
along
with
sister
ray's
just
said,
I
think
it.
It
becomes
important
because
there's
a
lot
of
stuff
happening
right
now
and
for
us
not
to
be
there
to
wait
another
30
days
to
even
hear
it.
It
could
be
a
injustice
for
us
in
our
work.
A
B
A
Okay,
I
I
agree.
Actually
I
think
that
we
ought
to
meet
more
regularly,
at
least
at
first.
I
agree,
so
I'm
glad
I'm
glad
you
think
so
as
well.
All
right,
so
we
will
send
out
two
dates
in
july
and
two
dates
in
august
and
I'll
expect
to
hear
from
you.
A
I
have
no
idea
what
day
it
is.
What
day
is
it
it's
wednesday,
tuesday.
K
A
G
E
Yeah
justinia
has
has
a
has
a
question.
H
I
believe
yesenia
was
the
one
who
asked
about
her
father
who's,
an
inmate.
She
would
like
an
answer
to
her
question
about
resources
for
him
and
other
inmates
should
we'll
have
yesenia.
If
you
don't
mind
I'll,
have
you
pop
right
back
in.
M
Yes,
yes,
yes,
so
I
was
just
looking
for
to
see
if
there
was
an
answer
to
the
question.
So
the
question
is
what
aid,
if
any,
is
being
provided
to
inmates
with
pre-existing
conditions
who
are
not
being
transported
to
the
proper
medical
facilities
to
address
their
medical
ailments
beyond
the
infirmary,
with
the
within
the
jails.
M
He's
not
is
that
mci,
yes,
mci
norfolk,
so.
A
So
all
I
can
say
is:
can
we
try
to
find
the
right
person
in
the
state
system
where,
at
least
by
trying
to
find
the
right
person
in
the
system
for
her
to
talk
to.
G
A
I
think
that's
it
all
right!
Well,
I
I
I
want
to
thank
evandro
and
susan.
I
want
to
thank
all
the
commissioners,
your
attention
and
comments
and
your
intellectual
wealth
here
that
you
provided
and
conversation,
and
I
look
forward
to
working
with
you
appreciate
your
giving
us
your
time
and
your
commitment
and
I'm
energized
by
hearing
from
you.
A
I
I
did
some
of
you
I've
seen
before
at
places,
but
I
really
didn't
know
folks
well
and
I'm
really
glad
to
meet
all
of
you
and
I'm
very
glad
to
join
all
of
you
in
this
effort.
So
if
andre,
you
want
to
say
something
as
well.
G
Yes,
as
we
close,
obviously
we'll
have
to
in
the
future,
we'll
worry
about
training
in
public
records
and
and
all
those
things,
but
one
of
the
things
we
have
to
do
as
we
close
the
meeting,
and
we
have
to
do
a
motion
to
to
adjourn
in
in
second
and
such
the
procedures,
some
of
the
things
that
we
have
to
obviously
pay
attention
to
as
we
go
forward.
Obviously
this
is
the
first
time,
but
I
suggest
that
one
of
the
I'd.
F
Like
to
make,
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
to
close
out
this
meeting.