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Description
City of Boston Licensing Board Entertainment Application Hearing 7-18-23
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A
A
A
This
is
an
administrative
hearing
before
the
Mayor's
Office
of
Consumer
Affairs
and
Licensing
today
is
Tuesday
July
18
2023..
This
hearing
is
being
conducted
pursuant
to
certain
temporary
amendments
to
the
open
leading
law.
That
is
what
allows
us
to
meet.
Virtually
this
hearing
is
being
recorded
and
will
be
posted
to
the
city
of
Boston's
website.
A
We
are
joined
today
by
the
executive
director
of
the
Mayor's
Office
of
Consumer
Affairs
and
Licensing
Kathleen
Joyce
and
director
of
operations.
Rebecca
Foo
I
will
read
each
item
on
the
agenda
in
the
order
that
it
appears.
I
will
then
ask
who
is
present
on
behalf
of
the
licensee
and
who
is
president
on
behalf
of
the
Boston
Police
Department,
after
which
I
will
swear
in
all
parties.
C
A
D
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
C
A
A
F
Good
afternoon
I'm
going
to
read
a
report
which
I
wrote
on
Sunday
June,
11th,
2023
science,
detective
William,
Gallagher
and
detective
ready,
Hernandez
assigned
to
the
BPD
licensed
premise
unit
conducted
a
license
department,
inspection
of
Fort
Hill
Barn
they're,
located
at
2810
Washington
Street
well
inside
the
restaurant
detectives
observed
that
there
was
a
disc
jockey.
Providing
music
detectives
noted
that
the
establishment
entertainment
license
does
not
provide
for
this
type
of
entertainment.
F
Detective
brought
this
to
the
attention
of
the
person
in
charge:
Miss
norvia
de
Leon
as
a
result
of
what
the
Texas
discovered
scientific
allegation
license.
Private
inspection
of
zero,
four
zero,
three
four,
six
or
premise:
providing
DJ
music
without
being
authorized
in
the
city
of
Boston
entertainment,
license
Miss
de
Leon
signed
for
an
accepted
notice,
and
then
it
also
picture
attached
of
the
actual
dude
they
set
up
in
the
back.
F
E
This
basically
is
rooted
in
a
confusion
as
to
what
exactly
constitutes
a
DJ
for
many
years.
My
understanding
was
is
that
the
DJ
was
someone
who
not
just
didn't
put
on
the
music,
but
also
performed
in
a
in
a
way
that
you
know
commenting
on
the
music
trying
to
get
the
you
know
the
people
to
dance
or
trying
to
get
people
into
into
the
partying
aspect
of
the
evening.
E
Not
just
someone
who
played
music
I
will
say
that
Miss
pina's
business
has
evolved
into
nights
where
she
caters
to
a
certain
crowd
and
that
crowd
has
its
own
music
and
she
was
allowing
people
to
come
in
with
the
person.
You
know
that
was
going
to
present
their
playlist
and
play
music,
but
not
perform
in
any
way,
and
we
have
taken
it.
E
You
know,
we've
gone,
we've
gone
back
and
now,
as
Rebecca
knows
the
other
day,
we
have
amended
the
license
so
that
it's
updated
now
from
Radio
to
audio
device
so
that
we
now
have
our
own
equipment,
a
laptop
which
is
an
audio
device,
and
we
have
asked
people
to
come
in.
We
have
a
certain
playlist,
so
it
is
if
it's
a
certain
night,
then
that
playlist
will
be
played
by
norvia
herself
and
not
as
a
d.
There's
no
microphone,
there's
no
commentary
coming
there's
only
a
person.
E
E
I
To
clarify
to
clarify,
if
someone
presets
a
list,
that's
fine,
but
if
someone
has
to
go
in
there,
press
play
change
and
stuff
like
that.
That's
a
DJ,
because
non-live
is
not
a
live
person.
There
should
be
no
live
person,
so
audio
device
to
us
speaker,
radio,
MP3,
like
piped
in
background
music,
that
is
audio
device.
Anything
else
that
has
a
person
manipulating
like
if
norvia
has
a
list
you
press
play.
That's
it
that's
fine,
but
if
there's
someone
changes,
songs,
doing
something
actively,
that's
a
DJ!
That's.
E
So
there
won't
be
a
person
there
with
the
microphone.
There
won't
be
a
person
there
with
headphones.
It
will
be
the
owner
that
playing
a
playlist,
it's
almost
like
in
in
I.
Don't
know
if
you'll
remember
how
they
used
to
have
like.
If
Tom
Brady
used
to
walk
in
some
place,
he
could
bring
his
playlist
and
they
would
have
a
Tom
Brady
night
or
whatever,
and
then
that's
all
that
was
was
done.
It
was
background.
Music
and
that's
what
we're
doing.
A
B
G
This
was
a
complaint
Madam,
Chad,
okay,
and
when
you
that
evening,
I'll
probably
complaint
that
the
premise
was
conducting
loud
in
live
music
and
when
we
walked
in
it
was
they
were
pretty
much
wrapping
it
up,
but
there
were
still
people
in
there.
There
were
two
people
standing
behind
the
diss
tracking
Booth,
interacting
with
the
machine.
One
of
them
did
have
a
headset
on
and
as
we
were
going
up
the
stairs
there
was
some.
G
Yes,
I
mean
there
was
a
little
back
and
forth
on
what
is
a
DJ,
as
we've
just
heard,
but
we
told
we
told
him
that
nobody
wasn't
there
that
night.
If
we
were
dealing
with
her
daughter,
Miss
de
Leon,
and
we
told
him
I
should
not
see
anyone
behind
the
equipment
manipulating
the
equipment
with
the
headset
on,
and
you
know
they
stopped
it,
and
that
was
fine.
G
B
A
H
Yeah,
so
that
incident
it
was
not
as
flat
I
think
I
might
have
been
the
one
who
called
from
the
night
before
and
also
posted
during
that
same
day,
how,
prior
to
that
event
or
after
the
previous
event,
from
the
other
night
that
her
car
her
vehicle
was
for
someone.
She
knows.
Someone
on
the
matters
vehicle
was
parked
in
front
of
the
fire
hydrant
right
on
Valentine
Street
as
well,
which
is
another
ongoing
problem.
H
But
it
was
the
previous
nights
that
were
loud
until
one
hour
past
1
am
with
music
and
that
night
I
think
because
the
police
did
show
up
at
11
42.
There
was
nothing
I
heard
after
midnight
that
evening
that
Sunday
evening,
but
I
also
have
the
ad
saved
from
their
party
promoters
featuring
two
DJs.
Clearly,
it's
TJ's
with
DJ
music
for
that
Sunday,
June
11th
event,
and
there
were
previous
ones
flanking
it
as
well.
E
Right
and
we're
we're
I'm
working
closely
with
norvia
now
to
to
make
sure
that,
when
we're
going
over,
basically
what
we've
started
is
I'm
going
over
week
by
week.
Everything
what's
happening
while,
while
we're
going
through
this
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
running
a
foul
of
anything
and
as
I
said,
I
started
with
making
sure
it's
audio
device,
it's
our
audio
device.
It's
not
anyone
else's
and
we're
we're
just
monitoring
it
very
carefully.
I
E
E
A
C
Can
I
say
something
please
I
want.
This
happened
in
2012
with
the
same
people
were
complaining
about
the
music
and
the
problem.
How
we
solved
the
problem
was
Sergeant
Smith
in
the
captain,
bottom
machine
and
start
measuring
the
music,
because
they
My
Neighbor,
Next
Door
they've
been
complaining
forever
and
then
when
people
come
in,
the
music
is
not
what
they
are
claiming
to
be.
So
one
of
the
things
that
I
wanted
it
for
my
favor
and
if
it's
okay
for
me
to
ask
if
the
Boston
police
or
the
live
stream
start
mentioning
the
music.
C
So
we
could
be
on
the
same
page
because
into
I
have
18
years
into
these
premises
and
it's
always
been
the
complaint,
but
then,
when
they
go
and
measuring
the
music,
it's
nothing.
What
they're
saying
when
I
don't
want
to
go
back
to
Ten
Thousand
Eleven
in
2011
and
2012.,
and
then
when
they
ended
up
measuring
the
music
I,
was
respecting
the
law.
They're
killing
my
business
for
a
complaint
and
I'm
nobody's
giving
me
the
benefit
that
I
would
either.
I
C
On
that
same
day,
we
didn't
stay
until
one
o'clock
and
you
and
those
neighbors
need
to
know
that
my
people
can
stay
on
the
premises
into
1,
30
and
I.
Let
it
they
let
it
go.
They
go
at
one
third,
so
it's
not
like
I'm
holding
everybody
into
130
I'm,
breaking
the
law
like
I'm
not
supposed
to
have
music,
because
this
is
the
thing
that
is
going
on
forever
and
ever,
but
my
apologies
and
I
will
do
what
I
have
to
do
just
to
be
on
the
same
page,
with
the
license.
I
E
A
A
K
G
Yes,
sir
good
afternoon,
we
need
any
police
report
that
I
wrote
on
6
6
20
23
at
9,
37
P.M
check
the
William
Gallagher
protected
Eddie
Hernandez
signed
a
licensed
premise
unit
conducted
a
license
from
suspection
of
the
rooftop
patio
at
cambrie
hotel
at
6.
West
Broadway
check
this,
where,
where
the
Cambria
is
not
allowed
to
conduct
any
type
of
entertainment
on
their
rooftop
patio
Tech,
this
proceed
at
the
rooftop,
where
they
observed
about
50
patrons
to
be
drinking
and
eating.
In
addition,
detectives
could
have
recorded
Amplified
music
being
played
on
the
house.
G
Yeah
detectives
and
to
the
bar
area
they
observed
for
approximately
50
people
gathered
at
a
private
event.
At
this
time,
detectives
observed
the
DGA
to
be
performing
for
these
guests
on
inspection
of
cambria's
licenses
detectives
observe
their
DJ.
Entertainment
was
not
listed
as
an
approved
form
of
entertainment.
Current
city
of
Boston
entertainment
license
cal-410-795.
This
was
brought
to
Mr
Carrington
and
Mr
Will
O'brien
manager's
attention.
As
a
result.
G
What
was
observed
besides
Jacob
Gallagher,
issued
a
licensed
premise:
inspection
notice,
number,
zero,
four,
zero,
three
four
one
to
the
Camry
hotel
for
entertainment,
taking
place
on
rooftop
patio,
TV
and
music
DJ
and
first
floor.
No
current
entertainment
license
Mr
Joshua
Carrington
signed
for
an
acceptable,
essentially
FX
thanks.
A
J
Not
yes,
sir
I.
Would
yes,
sir,
during
that
that
night,
when
you
speak
of
Joshua
Carrington,
he
was
one
of
our
new
managers
on
board.
Unfortunately,
he
is
no
longer
with
us.
He.
He
was
not
aware
of
us
not
being
able
to
have
any
type
of
music
on
the
rooftop.
We
were
in
the
middle
of
a
buyout
for
a
biotech
event.
J
I
would
station
downstairs
missing.
Mr
Carrington
was
upstairs
the
communication
between
me
and
him.
He
did
not
understand
that,
and
there
is
a
you
know,
a
couple
of
issues
with
the
speaker
Up
on
the
Roof.
That
speaker
would
be
used
for
a
presentation
for
the
client
with
the
computer.
That's
the
only
reason
why
it
was
there
for
a
microphone.
J
J
Listening
to
the
previous
case
about
the
DJ,
you
know
we
we
have
the
music,
it
is
hooked
up
down
to
the
house.
Speakers
downstairs
and
ups
and
and
upstairs
as
well,
that
is
controlled
by
the
hotel
by
the
Cambria
Hotel
and
per
their
brand
standards,
which
we
have
to
add
here
to
is
having
their
music
on.
Until
that
we
were
aware
by
by
Sergeant
Gallagher
and
detective
Hernandez,
that
that
was,
you
know
against
the
law.
We
have
not
done
so
since
then.
J
C
J
You
know
we
have
since
that
incident.
You
know
we,
you
know
have
have
not
played
any
music
on
our
upstairs
patio
on
our
roof
deck,
which
you
know
has
essentially
hurt
our
business
tremendously.
So
I
just
want
to
state
that
fact.
We
I
have
been
working
closely
with
the
the
South
Boston
neighborhood
association.
Everybody
wants
us
to
succeed.
I
mean
we're
willing
to
go
to
any
length
that
we
have
to
do
to
follow
protocol,
whether
it's
to
get
a
decimal
meter.
A
B
J
Yeah,
so
our
attorney
is
working
with
our
owner
and
when
it
comes
to
the
licensing
board
for
when
it
comes
to
the
city
of
Boston
and
the
alcohol
that
is
being
handled
by
our
attorney,
I
am
also
in
I've,
been
having
conversations
with
councilman,
Flynn
and
obviously
he's
been
extremely
busy
here
in
the
past
couple
weeks.
So
right
now,
at
that
stage,
I
believe
we
are
playing
the
hurry
up
and
away
game
right
now.
J
A
H
I
So
that
is
why
we
need
these
license.
Issues
cleared
up
and
yes,
so
the
license
the
annual
license
is
for
Cambria.
Hotel
is
only
for
TJ
TVs
and
background
music
inside,
so
nothing
outside
no
live
entertainment
inside
or
outside
I
have
yet
to
receive
an
application
for
just
the
background
music
on
the
rooftop
that
has
not
come
in
yet
so
after
the
last
hearing.
That
was
what
we
were
waiting
for.
I
J
B
Up
we
want
to
work
with
you,
but
this
is
really
confusing
and
complicated
or
I
should
say
it
shouldn't
be
complicated,
but
you've
made
it
more
complicated
than
it
needs
to
be,
and
we
want
you
to
work
with
your
neighbors.
We
want
you
to
be
able
to
operate
and
be
successful,
but
you
can't
just
make
it
up
as
you
go
along
putting
us
in
a
difficult
position
because
you're
not
following
rules
and
you're
just
doing
whatever
you
want
and
claiming
ignorance.
So
let's
get
that
done
so
that
we
don't
have
to
have
another
hearing.
B
G
G
There
was
no
live
entertainment
tonight.
This
was
a
prior
inspection
they've
been
about
three
times
in
the
last
month
and
a
half
two
months
and
we
found
stuff
going
on
there
most
times
they
were
issued
by
the
board
a
one-timer.
We
did
follow
up
with
that
to
make
sure
they're
in
compliance
with
some
early
July
I,
believe
it
was
a
Haitian,
Independence
Day
event
and
there
was
a
live
entertainment
taking
place.
B
So
I'm
just
going
to
make
a
comment
Rick
and
will
the
three
fossil
police
officers
you
see
on
the
hearing?
They
cover
the
entire
city
for
the
licensing
board
three
having
to
respond
three
times
in
a
month
and
a
half
to
one
license.
Premise
is
a
lot,
so
you
need
to
get
your
act
together
on
the
licensing
side,
both
entertainment
and
alcohol,
and
you
can
do
it
at
the
same
time.