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From YouTube: Ryan Playground Design Meeting #2 March 2, 2021
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Ryan Playground Design Meeting #2 March 2, 2021
A
And
I'm
a
landscape,
architect
and
project
manager
for
the
boston
parks,
department
and
tonight
is
our
second
community
meeting
for
ryan
playground
in
dorchester,
and
I
wanted
to
let
all
of
you
know
that
this
meeting
is
being
recorded
so
that
we
can
post
it
on
our
project
website.
And
if
you
know
anybody
who
wasn't
able
to
make
it
tonight.
Hopefully
they
can
go
to
our
project
page
and
click.
A
There
we
go
so
here's
a
few
tips
on
how
to
use
zoom,
webinar,
basically
everybody's
looking
at
the
presentation,
but
we
can't
see
each
other.
Unfortunately,
if
you
are
calling
in
to
this
meeting,
you
have
to
press
star
nine
to
raise
your
hand
and
then
star
six
to
unmute,
and
so
that
is,
that
is
how
we're
going
to
have
our
conversation
at
the
end
of
our
presentation.
A
A
We're
going
to
have
our
the
body
of
our
presentation
tonight
is
going
to
be
the
existing
condition
summary
what
we
heard
back
from
you
guys,
basically
from
our
first
meeting
and
as
well
as
the
results
from
our
first
survey
that
we
had.
We
had
a
lot
of
great
feedback
from
that
and
then
the
design
team
is
going
to
share
the
concept
alternatives
which
are
three
different
plans
where
we
sort
of
talk
about
different
options,
things
that
we
can
include
in
the
eventual
design,
as
well
as
play
activity
types.
A
Sorry,
I'm
getting
these
things
a
little
bit
disorganized
here.
The
community
feedback
is
going
to
be
after
that
and
then
our
closing
works
and
next
steps.
So
if
you
please
next
slide
so
here
we
are
project
team.
I'm
beach
at
field
project
manager,
christine
brandeo,
is
here
as
well.
She's
our
outreach
coordinator
and
christine
wilson
and
aaron
cramer
are
here
from
copley,
wolf
design
group
we're
here.
Patrick
fandel
is
also
we're
working
with
him.
A
He
is
the
office
of
neighborhood
services
and
he
is
our
ons
representative
for
the
neighborhood,
I'm
not
sure,
if
he's
here
tonight,
but
if
he
is
shout
out
to
patrick.
I
also
wanted
to
if
there
are
any
elected
officials
at
this
point
here.
If
you
want
to
raise
your
hand-
and
we
can
allow
you
to
say
a
few
words
of
introduction-
oh
okay,
I
guess
we
will
check
in
with
you
later.
Perhaps
there
will
be
some
arriving
later
on
in
the
evening.
So
next
slide.
A
Here
we
are
community
meeting
number
two,
where
we
discuss
concept
alternatives
and
then
our
final
meeting
is
going
to
be
showing
you
guys
the
preferred
design
and
that's
going
to
be
in
late
april
after
we
get
the
go-ahead
from
you
guys,
and
this
is
the
right
direction
that
we're
headed
in
we
like
the
design.
This
seems
to
address
as
many
questions
and
and
interests
that
the
community
has.
Then
we
go
on
to
develop
our
construction
documents
and
in
early
spring
2022.
That's
when
we
plan
on
starting
construction.
A
All
of
this
is
with
the
goal
of
opening
up
for
summer
2022,
so
that
you
guys
would
be
able
to
use
the
the
new
spring
feature.
So
we
could
go
to
the
next
slide.
So
here
we
have
when
we
design
a
park
just
a
quick
overview.
We
have
the
city
of
boston
priorities
that
we're
trying
to
include.
We
are
also
always
addressing
safety
guidelines
and
regulatory
guidelines
this
piece
tonight.
This
is
our
community
input.
A
B
Thank
you
b,
so
my
name
is
christine
wilson.
I'm
here
tonight
representing
copley,
wolf
design
group
where
the
landscape,
architects,
working
with
boston
parks
on
redesigning
the
ryan
playground,
we're
not
just
working
with
boston
parks,
we're
working
with
you
as
well,
so
we're
you
know.
We
were
here
and
with
you
all
in
december
and
we're
back
now
we
we've
developed
some
alternatives
which
we're
really
excited
to
share
with
you
and
get
your
feedback
on
as
we
as
we
move
forward
in
this
process.
B
T
stop
just
you
know,
west
of
the
I-93
corridor,
which
you
can
see
on
this
map
here
here.
We've
mapped
out
the
other
open
space
areas
in
the
neighborhood.
Just
so
we
can
understand
what
is
in
walking
distance.
You
see
that
half-mile
radius,
a
10-minute
walk-ish,
depending
on
how
fast
you
walk.
You
know
you
can
go
over
from
this
intersection
over
to
moakley
park
or
you
know,
richardson
park
new
playground
all
the
way
down
to
down
or
ab,
possibly
so
looking
at
these
different
open
spaces.
B
So
zooming
in
looking
at
this
intersection
of
dorchester
ave
and
harborview
street,
we
have
the
condominiums
to
the
north
as
well
as
the
gallery
space
and
then
to
the
east
and
to
the
south.
We
have
residential
parcels,
dorchester
baptist
church
across
the
street
across
harborview
street
and
then
the
retail
commercial
spaces
across
dorchester
avenue,
and
can't
forget
about
the
little
house
alternative
school
up
on
cottage.
B
Looking
at
circulation
and
access,
so
so
how
do
we
get
to
this
site?
How
do
we
get
into
this
site?
Maybe
you
drive
there
and
there's
street
parking
harbor
view
street.
You
know
it
was
one
way:
heading
west,
there's
a
blue
bike
station
on
dorchester
avenue
right
right
outside
that
main
entrance.
You
see
the
main
kind
of
big
gateway,
that's
on
dorchester,
so
that's
this
kind
of
purple
box
here
is.
Is
this
structure?
B
And
one
thing
to
note
is:
there's
stairs
here:
there's
also
stairs
at
the
access
point
on
harborview
street
and
then
there's
a
wide
ramp
off
harbor
view
street
as
well,
and
so
none
of
these
are
are
technically
ada
compliant
accessible.
So
that's
a
big
thing.
We're
looking
at
with
the
renovation
of
this
playground
is
to
create
ada
compliant
access
points
so
that
no
matter
what
direction
you're
kind
of
flowing
in,
if
you're
in
a
wheelchair
or
you
know,
have
a
stroller
that
you
can
get
up
easily
into
the.
B
Space
also
looking
at
the
pervious
surface,
and
so
this
is
what
I
call
softscape
versus
hardscape
so
where
rainwater
can
fall
down
and
infiltrate
directly
into
the
soil
versus
hardscape
asphalt,
concrete
world
runoff
we're
looking
at
maintaining
or
even
increasing
that
percent
of
pervious
surface,
where
we're
just
under
40
right
now.
The
existing
playground
we're
also
looking
at
site
lighting,
acknowledging
you
know
where
lights
are,
and
the
distribution
of
light
throughout
this
site
so
that
we
can
address
any.
B
We're
working
with
the
certified
arborists
to
figure
out
how
the
renovation
of
this
playground
can
enhance
the
urban
forest
this
the
tree
canopy.
This
is
what
is
existing
on
the
site,
28
trees,
and
you
know
the
the
condition
varies,
and
so
we're
looking
at
the
condition
of
the
trees
and
what
we
can
do
for
these
trees.
As
part
of
this
is
part
of
this
free
design.
B
B
We
have
the
5
to
12
play
structure
and
then
we
have
the
three
bay
of
swings,
and
then
we
have
the
enclosed
two
to
five
play
structure
area
and
there's
a
sandpit
there
and
some
picnic
tables,
and
then
we
have
more
pavement
with
with
those
star
dots
that
connect
over.
You
know
between
the
play
zones
across
the
asphalt
to
this
kind
of
big
circle
area
with
more
picnic
tables
right
in
the
middle
of
the
site.
B
B
B
A
little
bit
of
lag
sorry
about
that.
There
we
go.
Okay
survey
results,
so
what
did
we
hear?
Well,
we
had
we
had
a
bunch
of
demographic
questions
and
so
those
included.
You
know
how
many
children
in
your
household.
How
often
do
you
visit
ryan
playground?
So
for
those
who
answered
the
survey
we
most
of
the
people
actually
didn't
have
children,
though
we
did
have
some
with
one
two,
three
kids
and
then
as
far
as
how
often
they
visited
a
lot
of
the
52
percent
was
occasionally
you
see.
B
24
was
weekly,
the
blue,
that's
weekly,
occasionally
and
then
daily
was
you
know,
green
16,
so
those
folks
definitely
know
this
space.
It
was
still
great
to
hear
from
people
who
maybe
attended
the
meeting,
but
who
don't
you
know,
know
the
playground
that
well
we
really
appreciate
comments
from
everyone.
So
how
do
you
get
to
ryan
playground?
Most
people
walk,
so
it
makes
me
think
that
they
are
living
in
the
neighborhood.
B
B
So
then,
what
brings
you
there?
Meeting
people
13
water
play
area
very
popular
in
the
summer
we
hear
most
of
people
were
enjoying
open
space
or
there
for
the
plane
structures.
That
makes
total
sense.
So
that
was
confirming
you
know
what
we
thought,
which
is
always
great.
These
were
the
questions
about
some
of
the
features
in
the
park
that
we
were
very
interested
to
hear
about.
B
So
as
far
as
the
water
play
feature,
we
want
to
know
like,
should
we
keep
it
as
is?
Should
we
keep
it
as
is,
but
do
a
minor
clean
up
or
like
totally
reimagine
it,
or
do
you
not
really
care?
So
most
people,
half
of
the
people
who
participate
in
the
survey
said
they
wanted
us
to
reimagine
it
so
you'll
see
that
reflected
in
the
alternatives
we're
presenting
tonight
as
far
as
entry
gateway.
That
was
pretty
split
evenly
amongst
everyone.
B
B
If
you
have
more
information
about
the
art,
tiles
or
the
frog,
the
history
of
those
pieces,
that
would
be
great
to
hear
the
flag
poll.
Most
people
said
no
preference,
and
then
you
know
32
said
no,
so
we
just
had
a
very
small
percentage
of
people
who
said
yes
to
keep
it
again.
If
I'm
not
understanding
correctly,
please
let
me
know,
but
what
we're
hearing
is
that
flagpoles
is
not
a
huge.
B
You
know
important
element
for
for
those
in
the
community
and
then
finally,
do
you
feel
safe
at
ryan
playground
and
most
people
say
no.
So
a
big
part
again
of
this
project
is
to
create
a
playground
that
feels
safer,
and
so
we're
going
to
be
doing
this
by
not
only
just
improving
the
lighting
at
night,
but
also
the
visibility
into
the
park
and
throughout
the
park.
B
Specific
comments,
some
of
them
that
we
heard
I
think
we
captured
most
of
them.
If,
if
not,
let
us
know,
but
we
heard
more
trees,
elements
for
all
ages.
That's
important
inclusivity,
someone's
daughter,
really
likes
the
fish
ocean,
themed
art.
They
like
people,
would
like
to
see.
Programming
such
as
art
in
the
park
or
poetry,
readings,
a
dog
area,
basketball,
hoops,
additional
climbing
elements,
monkey
bars
a
path
for
small
kids
to
learn
how
to
ride
bikes.
So
we
hear
you
as
far
as
a
dog
area.
B
Oh
so
many
people
have
dogs
and
it
would
be
so
nice
to
have
more
dog
spaces,
but
boston
parks
does
not
just
part
of
the
playground.
Renovation
and
b
can
speak
to
this
more,
but
it's
it's
not
something
that
will
be
on
part
of
this
specific
playground.
I
know
be
if
you
want
to
say
anything
about
that.
Yeah.
A
Sure
yeah
we
have,
I
guess
what
we,
what
we
look
really
to
create
are
complementary
uses
when
we
renovate
our
playgrounds-
and
this
is
a
fairly
small
area-
and
so
it's
not
beneficial
to
dogs
to
create
a
small
dog
run.
You
end
up
with
a
lot
of
conflict
between
dogs
and
it's
not
ultimately
very
beneficial
as
far
as
conflict
or
exercise.
You
also
have
the
adjacencies
of
children
using
a
space
and
dogs
using
a
space,
and
we
really
strive
to
create.
A
You
know
dog
areas
where
you
have
some
buffer
in
between
the
dog
area
and
the
children's
area.
So
for
this
location,
it's
unfortunately
not
appropriate,
but
we
we
do
appreciate
hearing
that
this
is
desired,
because
that's
definitely
something
that
you
know
it
goes
into
our
understanding
of
the
area
and
it's
possibly
something
that
we
would
consider
in.
You
know
another
park
nearby.
So
thank
you
for
for
sharing
those
thoughts
with
us.
B
B
We
also
heard
that
the
game
tables
are
not
used
for
playing
games,
but
they
are
used
for
sitting,
and
then
there
was
just
general
support
for
again
elements
for
kids
of
all
ages,
a
space
large
enough
for
adult
programming
and
note
that
such
as
yoga
or
zumba,
a
half
court
basketball,
a
large
grassy
area,
expanded
water
play
inclusive
play
okay.
So
all
this
sounds
really
awesome
and
I
want
to.
B
It's
tough
to
have
both
okay.
So
for
concept,
a
we
go
through.
First,
that's
the
great
lawn
and
then
the
concept
b
is
meandering
paths
and
then
concept
c
is
the
play
loop.
And
so
another
thing
I
should
note
about
these:
is
it's
there's
the
opportunity
to
kind
of
mix
and
match
different
attributes
of
each
of
these
concepts?
B
B
B
B
B
B
This
is
b
meandering
paths,
so,
unlike
the
last
option
which
just
had
the
gateway
at
the
corner,
this
has
a
plaza
with
some
seating
around
it,
and
I
should
note
that
that
all
the
access
points
up
you
know
off
dorchester
avenue
were
accessible.
We
figured
out
that
they
can
be
accessible,
and
this
is
well
though,
as
it
winds
up
there'll
be
a
little
shortcut
for
stairs
on
both
of
these.
B
B
B
We've
also
heard
from
folks
like
the
last
meeting
about
basketball,
though
so,
do
you
want
skateboarding
or
do
you
want
basketball,
and
so
this
option
number
c
shows
basketball,
half
court
in
the
in
the
bottom
corner
and
if
half
court
it
doesn't
mean,
is
it
sufficient?
If
you
really
want
a
full
court,
you
can
imagine
that
would
take
up
a
good
chunk
of
the
space.
So
we'll
really
need
to
hear
you
know
how
important
is:
is
basketball
and
kind
of
feel
that
out
amongst
each
other?
B
B
B
Playground
so
again,
it's
helpful
for
us
to
hear
how
you
feel
about
this
existing
structure.
We
could
always,
you
know,
maybe
look
at
repurposing.
You
know
part
of
it
like
the
sign
or
do
you?
Is
it
really
important
that
we
maintain
this
whole
structure,
as
is
we'd
love
to
hear
how
you
feel
about
that
central
seating
plaza
splash
pad,
maybe
has
painted
graphics.
Maybe
we
do
painted
graphics
on
the
the
half
court,
basketball.
B
We
could
have
a
large
structure
like
shown
up
on
the
on
top
right
that
has
slides
off
of
it
or
we
could
have
smaller.
You
know:
components
smaller,
some
climbing
compul
components
through
the
through
the
playground
so
again
we're
we
can't
have
it
all
so
we're
trying
to
hear
from
you.
What
do
you
prefer?
What
time
the
type
of
climbing
piece
would
you
prefer?
B
B
So,
in
addition
to
climbing
they're
sliding
right
so
do
you
want
a
really
tall
slide,
one
big
doll.
Slider.
Do
you
want
lots
of
smaller,
slides,
again
hearing
how
you
feel
about
sliding
for
this
playground?
Specifically,
you
know
you
there
might
be
a
playground
nearby
or
another
part
of
boston
that
you
go
visit
that
has
a
different
slide
type,
and
so
so
what?
What
would
you
like
to
see
here
for
sliding
ryan
playground.
B
Swinging
so
we'll
have
taller
bucket
seats,
we'll
have
regular
belt
seats,
but
as
far
as
a
special
slide
do
you
want
a
group
dish
swing?
Do
you
want
something
called
like
a
friendship
swing?
How
do
you
feel
about
swings
and
then
spinning
and
swaying,
there's
pieces
that
are
that
you
can
bring
a
wheelchair
onto
big?
You
know
group,
swaying,
pieces
and
then
there's
of
course,
little
spinners
we
can
include.
B
So
how
do
you
feel
about
spinning
and
swaying
again
we're
just
trying
to
get
a
sense
from
you?
How
how
you
like
the
distribution
of
components,
big
towers
or
lots
of
kind
of
little
smaller
pieces
as
we're
moving
forward
and
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
come
back
to
you
in
the
final
meeting
with
more
questions
about
this.
So
this
isn't
the
last
opportunity
to
to
give
us
input
on
play.
Activity
types
or
I
went
through
kind
of
the
different
types
of
water
play.
B
Earlier
and
then
there's
sensory
play,
which
is
important
piece
of
inclusive
playgrounds,
so
that
there
are
elements
you
know
on
the
ground
level
as
well
as
maybe
as
part
of
play,
structures
that
everyone
can
kind
of
get
to
so
ones
that
are
more
musical
or
you
know
the
texture
touch.
So
there's
lots
of
different
options.
If
you
have
a
preference
for
anything,
please
let
us
know
as
far
as
play
structures,
I
already
mentioned
towers,
post
and
platform.
B
B
B
B
A
So
if
you
guys,
we
have
a
fair
amount
of
questions
that
have
been
submitted,
comments
to
the
q,
a
but
also
the
opportunity
to.
If
you
want
to
say
your
question
or
comment
yourself,
you
can
raise
your
hand
and
christine
brandeo
will
unmute
you
and
you
can
go
ahead
and
talk.
I
just
wanted
to
see
if
there
are
any
elected
officials
here
now
at
this
point
in
the
night.
No
there's
not
there
aren't
okay,
all
right.
A
Well,
I
just
I
I
forgot
to
include
this
before
and
I'm
sorry
for
not
doing
this,
because
it's
something
that
everybody
likes
to
know
how
many
participants
are
in
this
meeting
so
right
now
we
have
a
total
of
12
of
us,
including
our
presenters.
So
it's
a
great
group
of
people
and
you
know
we
always
we're
always
seeking
to
include
more
people
so
for
our
third
meeting.
I
hope
everyone
who's
attending
this
meeting
tonight
can
tell
five
friends
and
then
remind
them
the
night
before
as
well.
A
So
I
think
I
I
may
jump
in
here
and
start
reading
some
of
the
q
a
that
has
been
submitted
christine.
That
was
a
fantastic
explanation
of
all
of
the
different
opportunities
and
constraints
that
our
site
gives
us,
and
you
guys
at
this
point,
have
some
fantastic
ideas
for
what
types
of
programs
we
can
include
what
we
have
heard
back
from
you
previously.
A
You
know.
Obviously
the
people
who
came
to
the
first
meeting
may
not
be
the
people
who
are
here
at
our
second
meeting.
I
see
a
couple
of
names
I
think,
but
you
know
so
it's
what
we
heard
at
our
first
meeting.
You
have
the
opportunity,
if
you
disagree
with
that,
share,
share
your
thoughts.
So
with
that
des
rohan
asks,
if
would
there
be
access
to
water
and
electricity
at
the
site?
I
could
see
a
movie
night
on
the
great
lawn,
which
is
an
awesome
idea.
A
Occasionally
we
at
the
parks
department
have
concerns
about
providing
free
and
open
access
to
electricity,
because
we
don't
want
the
park
to
become
say
like
an
outlet
for
people
charging
up
various
devices,
not
that
that's
the
end
of
the
world,
but
we
just
don't
want
it
to
be
like
one
of
the
main
reasons
people
use
the
park,
so
we
can
definitely
look
into
that
and
des.
I
know
I
have
your
contact
information,
so
I
can
certainly
follow
up
with
you
after
the
meeting
water.
A
Yes,
we
could
definitely
provide
water
access,
because
we
understand
that
there
is
a
group
that
does
plantings
and
maintains
some
of
the
plantings
on
the
site,
so
we
would
definitely
try
and
make
that
that
task
more
fun
and
easier,
so
you
don't
have
to
bring
in
water
from
elsewhere.
Another
comment
from
dez
that
is
their
skateboarding
or
basketball.
A
Now,
if
there
were
skateboarding
or
basketball,
which
is
a
terrible
idea,
when
would
they
open
and
close
and
would
they
be
locked?
So
this
is
a
fairly
small
site,
and
so
I
do
not
foresee
having
locking
gates
around
anything
that
we
would
be
installing
in
this
site,
because
I
think
it
would
make
it
too
small
too
constrained
feeling-
and
we
want
these
things
to
be
usable
for
everyone.
You
know
one
of
the
great
things
about
a
basketball
court
is
that
you
can
use
it
for
other
activities
when
people
aren't
playing
basketball.
C
Hey
thanks
for
reading
those
comments,
so
yeah,
I
think
I'm
less
of
a
scape
less
of
a
basketball
fan
than
I
am
a
skateboard
fan,
but
I
think
you
know
in
general,
I'm
just
worried.
You
know
thinking
about
it
more
having
either
of
those
in
this
park.
I
mentioned
this
this
space
to
be
more
really
more
designed
for
the
younger
kids
and
having
baskets
and
I'm
not
sure
if
the
basketball
courts
would
be
like
courts
designed
for
you
know,
young
adults
versus
you
know,
maybe
a
low
low
basket.
C
You
know
not
not
not
to
the
legal
requirements
so
like
a
five-year-old
could
reach.
You
know,
I'm
not
sure
exactly
what
the
basketball
court
design
would
be,
but
I
would
not
want
to
see
young
adults
or
even
these
kids
playing
basketball,
swearing,
it
up
and
then
skateboarding
and
then
I
could
see
these
skateboarders
ruining
those
those
lovely
benches
that
were
in
you
know
they
would
go
outside
of
the
skateboard
arena
and
really
start
skateboarding
along
those
benches
and
ruin
things
after
because
I
see
it
all
the
time
downtown.
C
So
those
that's
my
reservations
with
the
the
court
and
the
the
skateboard.
If
they're,
just
if
they're
more
designed
for
older
adults
or
even
younger
I'm
sorry
younger
adults
or
high
schoolers,
I
don't
think
it's
a
good
good
fit
for
what
I
think
is
more
designed
for
younger
kids
from
two
to
two
to
ten
here.
A
Okay,
that's
that's
very
helpful
to
hear
with
regards
to
basketball.
You
know
we
could
certainly
look
at
that,
and
I
I
think
it's
it's
tough
with
the
basketball,
because,
if
you
put
a
lower
hoop
in
people
are
really
tempted
to
dunk
on
it
and
it
has
a
lifespan
of
about
45
minutes
we
found
so.
The
thing
with
the
half
court,
though,
is
that
it
tends
to
be
a
much
mellower
form
of
basketball
that
ends
up
happening
there
as
opposed
to
a
court
with
two
posts
like
a
full
court.
C
C
A
A
A
A
No
there's,
not
okay,
so
I'm
gonna
continue.
Maureen
m
says
as
a
community
civic
leader
who
helps
to
organize
the
tree
lighting
each
year.
I
like
either
of
the
two
versions
with
it
in
the
front,
so
that
is
great
to
hear,
although
I
have
to
say
I'm
going
to
move
my
little
q
a
window
here,
we've
got
it.
I
mean
the
front,
that's
an
interesting.
So
are
you
saying
concept
a
and
b,
because
c
is
not
quite
in
front.
A
A
Maureen
m
also
prefers
more
passive,
green
space
instead
of
skateboarding
or
basketball
like
the
like
tables,
as
I
often
see
families
or
couples
picnicking.
This
section
of
dorchester
is
densely
populated
with
not
a
lot
of
green
space,
so
we
prefer
more
passive
space
and,
of
course,
the
kids
structures
for
play.
That's
a
that's
a
great
perspective
to
hear
obviously
you're
you're
in
this
neighborhood,
and
you
see
what
people
use
this
site
for,
and
you
know
I
think
that
that
definitely
seems
you
know.
Great
lawn
gives
lots
of
opportunities.
A
The
thing
I
I
think
that's
great
about
the
great
lawn
option
concept,
a
is
that
you
have
the
site,
is
very
effectively
divided
into
sort
of
two
where
you
have
active
recreation
on
the
right
hand,
side
and
more
passive,
so
you
can
have
kids
playing
while
you
can
have
people
picnicking
on
the
lawn
anyway.
That's
my
two
sets,
but
obviously
this
is
for
you
guys
to
define.
B
A
Aren't
there
any
folks
with
raised
hands
at
this
point?
Nope.
Okay,
maureen
also
continues
to
say
that
she
supports
the
flagpole.
She
likes
the
flagpole,
so
that
is
good
to
hear,
because
flagpole
has
not
received
that
much
love.
I
mean
it's
one
of
those
things
where
I
think
people
tend
to
feel
pretty
neutral
about
flagpoles,
easy
to
forget
that
they're
there.
So
that's
good
to
know
that
you
like
it.
B
And
for
all
three
concepts-
I
I
should
highlight
this
too,
but
this
little
circle
on
there
and
I
guess
it's
right
there,
the
that's
a
fly
pool
base.
So
we've
worked
around
the
flagpole
in
all
three
concepts,
even
though
I
said
earlier,
I
was
like
doesn't
seem
like
people
really
care
about
the
flagpole.
We've
we've
just
worked
around
it
thinking
it
was.
It
was
easy
to
work
around.
A
A
A
There
may
be
notes
someone
from
parks
could
research
if
there
was
a
choice
between
the
two,
I
prefer
basketball,
but
I
would
defer
to
a
butter.
So
that's
that
is
nice
to
know
your
perspective
on
that.
I
think
that
is
correct.
I
believe
it
was
15
more
than
15
years
ago
that
situation
occurred
and
so
we're
sort
of
curious.
You
know,
because
we
heard
from
our
last
meeting
that
people
were
interested
in
basketball
as
a
program
we
were
thinking
you
know.
Perhaps
the
time
is
right
now.
A
You
know
certain
things
come
into
fashion,
come
into
vogue
and
then
they
go
away
and
sometimes
people
move
away
from
the
neighborhood.
So
who
knows
so?
You
know
we
have.
Let
the
abutters
know
about
these
meetings,
and
so
we
hope
that
they
show
up,
because
if
they
don't
want
basketball
near
their
house-
and
we
do
hear
from
other
people
that
they
do
want
basketball.
This
is
significant
to
hear
this
different
opinions.
Now
I
have
something
here
from
mike
skolska
skolka.
A
There
we
go.
The
green
space
is
probably
preferable
for
the
reasons
maureen
mentioned,
so
he
thinks
a
is
his
favorite.
So
I
just
want
to
thank
you.
First
of
all,
that
is
great
to
hear.
I
also
just
want
to
emphasize
that
these
things
should
be
sort
of
thought
of,
as
kind
of
like
maybe
not
puzzle,
pieces
but
kind
of
a
mix
and
match
right.
A
So
if
you
like
significant
green
space,
there
are
ways
that
we
can
do
elements
from
concept,
b
and
or
concept
c
in
the
one
that
we're
showing
with
the
significant
green
space,
which
is
concept
a
so
if
you
like
a
and
everything
about
it
totally
great.
But
if
you
just
like
green
space,
we
could
also
add
elements
from
the
other
plants.
Just
so
you
don't
think
it's
all
or
nothing
here.
B
Exactly
like,
we
could
have
the
the
corner
plaza
instead
of
the
entry
gateway
or
we
could
keep
the
existing
structure
so
or
you
know,
or
the
with
the
water
play.
You
know
which
do
you
like
the
spray
nozzles
or
do
you
like
kind
of
the
more
interactive,
upright
pieces
and
then,
as
far
as
the
play
structures,
do
you
want
tall
horizontal?
You
know
tall
vertical
ones,
sorry
or
more,
horizontal
post
and
platform
structures
so
yeah?
What
do
you
think.
A
C
C
I
do
not,
I
don't
have
kids,
so
I
would
think
that
there
might
be
a
focus
group
of
what
kids
like
out
there,
but
I
I
guess
my
my
only
decision
would
be
whatever's,
safe,
safest
and
whatever
is
easiest
to
maintain,
so
it
doesn't
get
destroyed.
I'm
not
sure
if
this
history
of
of
these
structures
that
are
hanging,
that's
kids,
are
jumping
on
them
and
they're
snapping
or
something
like
that.
But
I
just
I
mean
what
I
saw
down
in
down
at
locally
there.
C
The
water
park
there,
I
think,
is
pretty
cool
where
I
think
they
have.
You
know
these.
These
upright
structures
that
that
have
water
coming
down
versus
it
coming
up
from,
but
I
know
over
in
dorchester,
but
then
a
possible
walkway
there
there.
I
think
they
have
the
water
that
shoots
up
from
the
ground.
So
I
really
don't
have
a
preference,
but
as
long
as
it's
safe
and
can
be
maintained
the
same
with
the
structures
for
the
kids,
I'm
not
sure
what
they
typically
like,
but
whatever's,
safest.
C
A
That
sounds
like
a
nightmare
rodents
in
the
play
structures.
Okay,
we
will
definitely
vet
our
play
structures
for
that.
I've
never
heard
of
that
before.
So
that's
really
interesting.
Thank
you
for
giving
us
a
heads
up
on
that.
I
just
wanted
to
also
say
that
parks
department
always
vets
things
for
maintainability
and
safety.
So
that's
great
that
that
is
your
priority
as
well.
A
If
there's
anyone
attending
tonight
who
has
kids
or
grandkids
or
knows
some
kids
who
happen
to
like
different
play
activities,
you
know
this
is
the
time
that
we
can
really
explore
those
types
of
things
as
well.
What
kinds
of
climbers
are
fun?
What
kinds
of
swings
are
fun?
You
know
we
always
hear
that
people
in
playgrounds
want
swings
they're.
Never
enough
swings,
you
know.
So
if
you
have
any
any
take
on
that,
that's
certainly
helpful.
A
Are
there
any
strong
opinions
on
that
it
should
be
retained
or
converted
if
that
sparks
thought
with
anyone.
Let
me
know:
I'm
looking
at
the
q,
a
maureen
says
a
combination
of
a
and
b
plans,
a
and
b
would
be
interesting,
no
opinion
other
than
the
color
on
the
play.
Structures
should
be
whatever
is
popular
with
the
kids.
We
are
not
aware
of
any
issues
with
gang-related
activity
in
this
neighborhood,
but
that
can
be
an
issue
in
other
areas.
A
B
B
B
B
A
A
A
So
if
we
have
any
other
any
other
thoughts,
there's
something
at
the
q,
a
maureen
says
mike
and
dez.
Maybe
we
could
send
out
an
e-blast,
an
email
blast
from
civic
association
asking
about
the
history
of
art,
murals
and
the
frog
next
meeting.
That
would
be
great
maureen.
If
you
guys
wanted
to
coordinate
and
then
I
think
I
know
I
have
mike
and
dez's
email,
I'm
pretty
sure.
So
if
you
guys
want
to
communicate
that
back
to
me,
I
would
really
appreciate
that
has
his
hand
raised.
C
They
call
those
green
bushes
there
that
were
in
front
of
that
mural,
because
that's
where
the
homeless
were
kind
of
hiding
out
based
on
feedback
we
got,
and
then
we
painted
that
mural
bringing
that
just
that
collage
of
of
what
was
in
the
water
structure
over
to
the
wall.
So
that's
the
that's.
The
genesis
of
the
mural
anyways.
A
C
A
A
Perhaps
in
a
new
water
spray
area,
in
some
capacity
or
possibly
in
another
I
mean,
I
guess
it
wouldn't
make
sense
in
another
area
of
the
park,
given
that
they're
aquatic
but
yeah,
I
think
we've
heard
from
more
people
who,
like
these
elements,
rather
than
people
who
would
like
to
get
rid
of
them
so
as
of
now.
That
is
the
idea
that
we
will
be
including
them
in
the
park
as
well
in
the
redesign.
B
Or
is
it?
Is
the
aquatic
theme
important
to
carry
out
through
it
throughout
the
park?
You
know
with
the
with
the
redesign
we
we
mentioned.
Possibility
of.
You
know
pavement
markings
like
the
basketball
court
and
the
patterns
of
the
resilient.
Should
we
continue
with
with
that
theme
you
know
in
in
these
new
spaces
we'll
be.
B
Creating
I
guess
this
is
something
we
can
talk
about
at
the
third
meeting,
so
between
now
and
the
end
of
april.
You
know,
maybe,
if
you
think
about
it,
you
know
what
what
would
you
like
for
the
patterning
of
the
the
the
rubber
in
the
play
areas,
or
you
know
a
pavement
marking.
You
know
around
the
seating
area.
A
So
we
look
forward
to
hearing
your
thoughts
and
we
thank
you
for
coming
tonight
and
it's
it's
seven
o'clock.
So
we've
wrapped
this
up
very
succinctly
and
yeah.
We
just
thank
you
guys
for
your
time
and
check
back
in
with
us,
and
I
will
let
you
all
know
when
our
next
meeting
is
scheduled
and
we
hope
to
see
you
then
as
well.
C
Thank
you.
Can
I
ask
just
one
more
question?
I'm
sorry
just
so.
If,
if
you
remove
the
big
blue
structure
there
at
the
current
entrance,
that
has
ryan's
playground
kind
of
engraved
into
it
at
the
top,
I
believe
would
there
be
do
you
have
any
recommendations
of
how
the
park
would
actually
be
advertised
as
rent
will
just
be
one
of
those
boring
green
placards
that
the
city
drops
up
there
or
could?
If
we
take
that
structure
down,
could
we
get
a
little
bit
creative
and
how
to
brand
the
park
a
little
bit.
A
Absolutely-
and
I
think
that
christine
may
be
scrolling
back,
do
you
know
what
page
that
was
on
christine
that
showed
a
couple
of
different
like
ideas,
I
think
one
of
the
one
of
the
sort
of
questions
in
our
mind
is
like.
Why
is
this
thing
so
large
and
also
one
of
the
challenges
with
it?
It's
sort
of
a
positive
and
a
negative?
Really,
it's
it.
A
It
provides
shade,
but
it
also
ends
up
being
sort
of
a
hangout
zone
because
it
provides
that
shelter
and
shade
and
so
providing
more
of
a
gateway
in
christina,
showing
two
examples
here,
something
that's
a
little
smaller.
A
little,
perhaps
more
appropriate
to
the
scale
of
the
park
gives
you
a
sense
of
entrance,
and
here
is
you
know,
we
know
this
park
and
what
we're
talking
about
here.
We
would
also
include
one
of
those
boring
green
signs
as
well,
but
you
know
it
would.