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From YouTube: Copley Square Community Meeting #1
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Copley Square Community Meeting #1 - November 16, 2020
A
B
B
I
want
to
let
you
all
know
that
this
meeting
is
being
recorded
so
that
we
can
post
it
on
our
project
website,
and
so
the
people
who
can't
be
here
tonight
can
see
it
later
on
and
it
should
be
up
on
the
website
within
one
week
we'll
be
showing
you
our
presentation
first
and
then.
At
the
end,
we
will
have
discussion
where
we
respond
to
your
questions.
B
This
meeting
has
two
ways
to
interact:
we're
showing
the
directions
on
your
screen
if
you're
joining
us
on
a
computer
for
anybody
joining
us
by
phone,
please
dial
star
nine,
to
raise
your
hand
and
then
we'll
call
on
you
in
the
order
that
you
raised
your
hand.
You'll
then
be
allowed
to
unmute
yourself,
which
you
do
by
pressing
star
six.
B
B
B
B
So
here
we
are
at
our
agenda
tonight,
we're
gonna
start
with
the
project
overview.
Where
I
go
over
our
goals
introduce
our
team
and
our
timeline,
then
our
design
team
will
present
their
site
analysis.
First,
they'll
review
the
history
and
the
context
of
the
square
and
then
they'll
go
into
how
to
understand
the
square.
It's
programming,
its
events,
it's
physical
attributes
and
condition,
and
its
feeling
and
its
character
after
the
presentation
we're
going
to
open
it
up
for
discussion
and
listen
to
your
thoughts
and
respond
to
your
questions.
B
So
here
we
have
our
project
team
on
the
left.
We've
got
boston,
parks
and
recreation
and
on
the
right
we
have
sasaki.
Sasaki
is
a
world-renowned
design
firm.
That
is
based
right
here
in
the
boston
area
and
we
are
thrilled
to
be
working
with
them
for
this
project.
We've
got
kate
took
here
tonight:
zach
crisco,
radica,
mahan,
kevin
hubbard,
kyra
sargent
and
julian
osorio.
B
We
are
aware
of
the
boston
public
library
project,
their
planning
effort
to
reconceive
their
dartmouth
street
entrance,
and
we
are
working
with
them
on
this.
We
feel
strongly
that
the
library
and
the
square
should
work
together
as
one
public
space,
so
our
design
teams
are
talking
and
we'll
be
sharing
public
meetings
once
we
get
into
our
schematic
design
process.
B
So,
let's
move
on
to
schedule
all
right.
We
have
our
phase
one
site
analysis,
which
is
where
we
are
right
now.
This
is
our
first
public
meeting
where
we
come
to
you,
and
we
say
this
is
what
we've
sort
of
assessed
in
the
square,
and
we
want
you
to
tell
us
how
you
use
it.
What
you
think,
what
your
thoughts
are,
where
this
should
go.
We're
then
going
to
come
back
to
the
public,
with
phase
two
sort
of
concept,
options
and
say
here's
some
thoughts.
This
is
what
we've
been
thinking.
B
What
do
you
like
of
each
of
these
options,
and
then
we
have
meeting
three
which
will
occur,
probably
sometime
early
spring
2021,
where
we
have
a
refined
concept
plan,
and
we
say
this
is
what
we
heard.
Did
we
get
it
right
at
that
point?
If
the
answer
is
yes,
we
move
forward
with
our
phase
three
definitive
design
where
we
basically
transform
our
schematic
plan
developed
in
phase
two
into
contract
documents,
so
essentially
we're
looking
at
a
design
process,
that's
going
to
be
happening
throughout
2021
and
then
a
construction
process
that
will
be
throughout
2022.
B
B
But
it's
connections
between
people
connections
between
people
in
their
city
as
well
at
parks
and
recreation.
Our
goals
specifically
are
expanding.
Walkable
access
to
parks,
which
the
city
of
boston
already
does
a
fantastic
job
doing,
but
we're
always
trying
to
improve
that
addressing
equity
trying
to
address
neighborhoods
that
perhaps
haven't
had
a
new
park
in
a
long
time.
Trying
to
target
those
areas
specifically
improving
our
climate
resilience,
health
of
our
citizens
and
building
communities
as
well.
B
You
add
all
of
that
to
safety
and
regulatory
guidelines.
You
have
a
large
list
of
things
to
try
and
incorporate.
So
then
we
talk
to
our
design
team
who've
been
part
of
this
process
the
whole
time
and
they
take
their
innovative
design
talents
and
their
quality
construction
experience
and
create
a
fantastic
public
park.
B
So
we
have
a
number
of
projects
that
parks
is
working
on
that
in
the
neighborhood
we
have
the
clarendon
tot
lot
nearby
that
plans
on
holding
its
first
community
meeting
in
december.
We
have
the
renovation
of
titus
sparrow
park,
that's
ongoing.
The
lagoon
in
the
public
garden
is
happening
as
well,
and
the
boston
common
master
plan
will
release
its
report
in
spring
of
2021.
B
So
the
next
slide,
please.
So
as
a
city,
we
ask
a
lot
of
copley
square
once
a
year.
It
serves
as
a
home
base
for
the
marathon
and
weekly.
It
transforms
into
a
marketplace
for
the
largest
farmers
market
in
boston.
It
also
hosts
protests
and
book
fairs
serves
as
a
meeting
point
a
public
notification
about
local
arts
and
performances,
and
it
is
the
foreground
of
some
of
boston's
well
best
known
architecture.
B
This
project
that
we're
about
to
undertake
is
about
making
this
park
work
for
the
current
and
future
needs
of
our
city.
As
we've
seen
in
the
last
year,
outdoor
spaces
are
more
and
more
important
to
our
sanity
and
health.
This
is
great
for
our
parks,
but
the
obvious
challenge
is:
how
do
we
keep
up?
One
can
see
the
various
aspects
of
the
square
suffering
from
use.
Pavement
is,
cracking,
trees
have
suffered
and
the
lawn
gets
trampled.
B
We
need
to
upgrade
it,
so
it
can
better
serve
our
needs
today
and
tomorrow,
we're
holding
this
meeting
to
hear
what
you
have
to
say.
We
want
to
hear
what
our
priorities
should
be.
Why
do
you
visit
this
park
or
why
don't
you?
What
do
you
think
needs
to
happen
here
and
with
that?
I
would
like
to
turn
it
over
to
our
design
team.
C
Thanks
so
much
b,
my
name
is
kate
tuke,
I'm
a
landscape,
architect
and
principal
with
sasaki.
We
are
really
thrilled
to
be
here
tonight.
I'm
joined
by
several
colleagues
whose
voices
you
will
hear
throughout
the
course
of
this
presentation,
as
we
mentioned,
we're
a
local
practice,
but
we
practice
internationally
and
really
specialize
in
civic
spaces,
just
like
copley
square
all
around
the
country.
So,
as
bee
mentioned,
this
is
the
first
of
three
different
public
meetings.
Where
we'll
bring
our
thoughts
to
you
and
ask
you
to
share
your
thoughts
with
us.
C
So
we
invite
you
to
engage
with
us
in
a
number
of
ways
throughout
the
course
of
this
presentation.
If,
at
any
point
you
have
a
question,
you
can
type
it
into
the
q
a
window
of
the
webinar
zoom
webinar
experience
throughout
the
course
of
the
presentation
we
are
going
to
ask
you
to
participate
in
live
polling,
and
you
can
do
so
either
by
using
your
mobile
phone
texting
2233
to
sasaki
polls
just
once
to
join,
and
then
you
can
answer
the
questions
or
you
can
also
use
a
web
device.
C
So
you
can
navigate
to
poll
ev.com
sasaki
polls
and
follow
the
prompts
on
the
screen.
If
at
any
point,
you
don't
want
to
answer
the
questions
or
aren't
interested
in
participating
in
a
live
manner
with
us
tonight
that
all
the
same
questions
as
well
as
more
questions
are
available
in
an
online
survey,
and
this
link
will
be
at
the
end
of
the
presentation
as
well.
C
So
with
that,
we
want
to
start
just
with
an
icebreaker
question.
We
know
that
there
are
a
number
of
you
on
the
line
tonight
and
we're
curious
to
know
a
little
bit
about
how
often
you
visit
copley
square.
Is
this
a
place
that
you
come
daily
weekly
monthly
just
occasionally,
once
a
year,
maybe
or
have
you
never
been
to
the
square
at
all?
So
again
you
can
text
sasaki
polls
once
to
two
two
three
three
three
and
then
you
text
a
b
c
d
or
e
to
give
us
your
answer.
C
So
it
looks
like
so
far.
12
people
have
responded.
Definitely
occasionally
is
coming
through
most
of
all,
so
those
are
folks
that
are
saying
that
they
have
been
there.
You
know
once
a
year
every
now
and
then,
but
not
frequent
users.
So
look
the
daily
users
are
coming
coming
into
the
forefront
now
daily
and
weekly
users,
a
wide
variety
of
you
all.
So
we
have
16
entrants
17.,
I'm
going
to
give
it
just
a
moment
more.
C
C
I
think
it's
interesting.
If
you
add
up
daily
weekly
and
monthly
users,
we
have
much
more
much
more
than
half
of
the
participants
really
using
the
square
pretty
regularly
so
radika,
let's
move
on
there'll
be
more
opportunities
to
participate.
Thank
you
so,
first
off
we're
curious
about
the
history
of
the
square,
and
I
think
we
understand
that
there
are
a
lot
of
people
in
the
city
of
boston
who
are
real
boston,
history
buffs.
C
So
very
briefly,
I
think
it's
it's
worth
knowing
that
when,
when
boston
was
beginning
to
fill
in
the
back
bay
in
the
late
1800s,
there
was
a
movement
among
planners
of
boston
that
there
be
a
hub
of
activity
in
back
bay,
which
would
be
an
art
square,
flanked
by
the
city's
really
most
important
cultural
institutions
of
the
time.
So
three
of
those
institutions
still
stand
and
flank
the
square
today:
boston,
public
library,
the
old
south
church
at
the
corner
and
trinity
church
really
standing
proud
in
the
square.
One
of
those
institutions.
C
C
It
was
handling
a
large
volume
of
traffic,
as
well
as
street
cars,
and
those
squares
which
were
grassy
were
underutilized.
So
the
original
idea
of
a
square
flanked
bicultural
institutions
wasn't
really
coming
forward
in
the
1960s,
so
the
city
held
a
design
competition
and
asked
international
design
firms
to
reimagine
the
square
so
sake
among
a
number
of
other
firms,
responded
and
sasaki's
original
design
was
was
chosen.
The
transformation
that
happened
here
really
removed
huntington
avenue
from
the
square
enabled
it
to
be
a
square
rather
than
a
series
of
triangles
set.
C
So
in
the
1980s,
the
city
held
another
design,
competition,
which
resulted
in
the
square
that
you
see
today,
which
responded
to
the
square
of
the
mid-century
modern
style
by
adding
significantly
more
green
space
and
raising
the
square
to
be
level
with
the
the
platform
of
the
surrounding
streets.
So
this
is
the
square
that
we
know
and
love
today
so
b
asked
the
question.
C
You
know
why
today
and
I
think
the
answer
really
is
exactly
as
b
stated,
that
we
have
a
much
loved
square
that
we're
asking
an
awful
lot
of
and
asking
an
awful
lot
of
the
square
means
that
there
are
a
number
of
systems
that
are
really
in
need
of
upgrade.
The
trees
are
a
little
bit
stressed.
The
lawn
is
a
little
bit
stressed.
The
fountain
is
in
need
of
upgrades
and
repairs.
The
pavements
are
in
need
of
upgrades
and
repairs.
C
C
Copley
square
is
a
square
that
serves
the
entire
city
as
well
as
the
tourist
population.
It's
a
square
that
serves
young
and
old
people
of
all
mobilities
everyone
from
local
residents
and
professionals,
to
tourists
to
those
who
are
drawn
for
shopping
and
events
or
who
visit
casually
for
a
fitness
classes
and
and
walking
their
dogs.
This
is
a
square
for
all
and
it
needs
to
to
function
that
way
moving
into
the
future
as
well.
So
our
next
question
for
you
is
actually
about
which
of
these
user
types
do
you
actually
most
identify
with?
A
A
In
while
people
are
filling
out
the
poll
to
let
everybody
know
that
the
polling
is
completely
optional,
this
is
just
a
fun
thing
to
be
able
to
do
if,
if
you're
comfortable
doing
so
at
the
top
of
the
screen,
it
explains
how
to
join
the
polling
app.
So
you
would
text
two
two
three
three
three
as
the
phone
number
and
then
write
in
sasaki
polls
in
the
message
and
that
will
connect
connect
you
with
this
polling.
C
C
I
see
professionals
as
well
represented
folks
attending
events
passing
by
commuting,
and
I
think
I'm
intrigued
by
how
many
other
uses
there
are
appearing
tonight,
and
I
think
if,
if
there
are
those
of
you
that
can
you
know
type
into
the
chat
or
let
us
know
when
we
open
up
for
q
a
what
some
of
those
other
uses
are
that
we're
missing?
That
would
be
really
wonderful.
C
D
Kate
yeah
so
now
we're
going
to
take
a
look
at
programming,
trying
to
understand
how
copley
square
is
used
today
on
a
daily
weekly
and
weekly
basis
and
for
large
events,
starting
with
daily
events.
We
know
that
every
day,
copley
square
has
a
lot
going
on
with
some
activities
changing
throughout
the
year
like
the
fountain
and
others.
Staying
pretty
constant
like
commuters.
D
So
now
we're
looking
at
a
plan
of
copley
square.
You
can
see
trinity
on
the
right
trinity
church
on
the
right
and
dartmouth
street
in
the
library
on
the
left
and
we're
showing
how
activity
looks
across
the
site.
The
square
is,
as
I
said,
really
heavily
used
by
commuters.
There
are
five
bus
and
subway
stops
within
just
one
block,
including
two
on
the
square
itself,
and
that's
not
even
to
mention
back
base
station,
which
is
a
little
up
dartmouth
street,
so
foot
traffic
is
definitely
the
heaviest
along
dartmouth,
street
and
boylston.
D
D
Looking
at
the
layout
of
these
events,
the
farmers
market
definitely
has
the
biggest
and
most
consistent
impact.
It
occurs
twice
a
week
from
may
to
november,
which
is
six
months
of
the
year.
So
half
the
year
pre-covered,
it
was
laid
out
along
the
sidewalks,
which
means
that
the
sidewalks
have
to
support
the
trucks
for
setup
and
takedown
of
the
farmers
market
too.
D
Next,
next
slide
as
you're
all
aware,
there
are
large
events,
large
annual
events
like
the
marathon
and
first
night,
and
while
these
are
a
key
part
of
copley's
place
in
boston,
they
also
put
really
heavy
demands
on
the
square.
We'll
look
at
the
marathon
first
night
more
in
a
second.
There
are
also
large
concerts
like
the
summer
arts
festival.
D
Looking
at
the
marathon
layout,
we
see
that
it
brings
an
immense
amount
of
equipment
and
people
to
the
site.
There
are
two
very
large
tents,
one
on
dartmouth
street,
which
is
closed
and
one
on
the
main
lawn
event.
Vehicle
trucks
and
trailers
are
parked
throughout
the
square
and
there
are
other
support
needs
like
restrooms
and
sponsor
tents.
D
This
whole
setup
lasts
for
over
two
weeks
each
april
and
is
followed
by
the
need
to
replace
the
entire
lawn
first
night
is
similar
in
terms
of
the
pedestrian
and
vehicle
traffic
on
the
square.
We
see
lots
of
people,
trucks,
trailers
and
the
closing
off
of
dartmouth
street
key
features
of
of
the
event
include
the
ice
sculptures
which
really
draw
people
onto
the
lawn
and
then
a
large
stage
in
front
of
trinity.
D
In
the
past
few
years,
first
night
has
brought
hundreds
of
thousands
of
people
to
this
area
in
just
two
days,
so
programs
like
first
night
and
the
marathon
these
large
events
they
they
do
feel
unique
to
copley,
but
copley
also
exists
in
a
larger
network
of
these
complementary
park,
amenities
within
a
five-minute
walk.
There
are
two
playgrounds
within
10
minutes.
There
are
gardens
like
the
clear
like
the
public
garden
within
15
minutes.
C
Yeah,
so
we're
curious
now
what
you
all
think
are
the
most
successful
events
and
activities
on
the
square.
So
for
this
you
can
text
your
response
as
a
single
word,
with
no
spaces
and
it'll
appear
as
part
of
a
word
cloud
that
we
can
all
start
to
see.
If
you
see
an
answer,
you,
like
you,
can
text
that
again
and
it
will
get
a
little
bit
bigger.
So
we
know
that
there
are
many
people
that
are
interested
in
that
event.
C
C
The
passive
opportunities
on
the
park
becoming
something
that
are
that's,
I
see
yep
the
jimmy
something
about
the
jimmy
fund.
I
see
again
a
reminder
to
text
them
as
one
word
with
no
spaces,
and
that
will
ensure
that
your
idea
remains
together
and
again.
If,
if
your
idea
is
not
popping
up,
you
can
enter,
you
can
go
to
the
survey
and
and
again
tell
us
a
little
bit
more
about
what
you
are
thinking
with
this.
C
But
it's
interesting.
I
see
the
farmers
market
really
coming
out
clearly
concerts.
The
arts
kiosk
the
boston
book
fair.
So
these
are
these
are
events
that
are
known
and
loved
throughout
all
of
boston
and
really
draw
a
wide
variety
of
bostonians
and
tourists
alike
to
the
heart
of
the
city
and
to
I'll
give
little
bit
more.
I
do
see
dog
walking
coming
in
there
real
opportunities
for
fair,
one-off
events,
something
about
adidas
boston
games,
interesting,
so
yeah,
I
think
as
the
design
team.
This
is
exciting.
C
So
kira
said
there
are
a
number
of
things
that
make
it
all.
These
beloved
events
actually
cause
a
lot
of
stress
and
pressure
on
the
square.
We
ask
a
lot
of
copoly
square
to
host
all
of
these
events.
So
our
next
question,
for
you
is
about
what
you
see
as
the
top
concerns
with
activities
on
the
square,
and
you
can
choose
up
to
three
of
these
answers,
and
this
this
answer
is
meant
to
be
reflect
your
opinion,
pre-covered
19..
C
So
what
are
your
top
concerns?
Is
it
noise?
Is
it
damage
to
sight
features,
overcrowding,
vandalism
littering
and
mess
the
traffic
impact
parking
concerns,
disruption
of
ordinary
uses
like
sitting
on
benches
or
walking
dogs,
fitness
classes
or
something
else
that
we
haven't
offered
as
an
opportunity
for
our
answer
interesting.
C
C
C
We've
provided
a
list
full
of
things
that
currently
are
on
the
square.
Fitness
classes,
the
farmer's
market,
passive
fountain
opportunities,
the
opportunity
for
something
a
little
more
active
or
interactive
in
terms
of
the
fountain
gardens
and
planting
public
art
concerts
and
cultural
events,
celebrations
and
protests,
skate,
friendly
features,
food
trucks
or
push
cart,
vendors
or
a
permanent
pavilion
and
cafe.
C
So
I
see
lots
of
answers
coming
up
here.
You
again,
you
can
choose
up
to
three
answers:
three
of
your
top
favorites,
so
clearly,
the
farmer's
market
is
a
really
popular
element
that
aligns
well
with
the
the
fact
that
many
of
you
are
local
residents
and
passers-by.
We
remember
that
you
answered
that,
and
so
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
people
that
are
using
that
farmers
market
on
a
regular
basis,
lots
of
interest
in
public
art
which
actually
aligns
really
nicely
with
the
city's
long-standing
understanding
of
this
as
the
city's
art
square.
C
Okay,
thank
you.
All.
This
is
really
insightful
information.
Again,
I
think
we're
we're
going
to
be
using
this
information.
You
have
opportunities
to
tell
us
more
about
your
answers
by
going
to
the
online
survey
or
also
to
tell
us
more
in
the
question
and
answer
period,
so
we're
going
to
move
on
to
the
next
section
of
analysis,
which
is
about
the
square's
physical
condition.
C
E
E
E
E
E
Looking
at
the
paving
within
the
within
copley
square,
there
are
a
variety
of
paving
patterns
and
materials
within
the
square
which
lend
themselves
to
the
iconic
character
of
complete
square
when
the
square
was
built
in
the
1980s.
The
design
didn't
anticipate
the
kind
of
heavy
uses
that
happened
on
copy
square
today
and
the
vehicular
loading
over
time
has
caused
the
settlement
of
pavers,
leading
to
non-ada
accessible,
paving
within
the
square.
E
C
So
sorry,
our
question
here
is
really:
what
should
be
the
priority
of
this
renovation
as
we
look
ahead,
should
should
parks
and
the
design
team
be
contemplating
upgrading
the
existing
square,
as
is
upgrading
it
with
some
redesign
of
its
spaces.
That
means
reconsideration
of
how
much
lawn,
how
much
paving
where
the
trees
are,
or
should
we
be
really
completely
reimagining
the
square
in
the
context
of
its
of
its
21st
century
use.
So
I
see
about
24
people
have
responded
so
far.
C
So
that's
coming
through
pretty
clearly
28
responses.
So
that's
really
helpful.
I
think
our
next
question
for
you
all
in
the
context
of
that,
is
what
should
be
the
highest
priorities
in
in
terms
of
thinking
about
physical
improvements
to
the
square.
I
think
we're
curious
to
know
whether
enhancing
and
sustaining
the
tree
canopy
is
most
important
to
you,
improving
or
updating
the
fountain,
improving
the
lawn,
improving
the
pavements,
bringing
them
into
ada
compliance,
for
example,
upgrading
the
lighting,
updating
benches
and
seating
opportunities
and
providing
better
infrastructure
connections
for
different
kinds
of
events.
C
So
that
means
that,
rather
than
bringing
a
generator
for
a
specific
event,
the
the
square
might
actually
just
allow
for
plugging
in
for
those
kinds
of
events,
so
I
see
lots
of
activity
on
this
poll
a
really
broad
range
of
things
that
you
all
think
are
priorities.
You
can
choose
up
to
three
here,
so
I
see
a
lot
of
people
really
interested
in
enhancing
and
sustaining
that
tree
canopy.
C
So
there
are
a
number
of
benches
already,
but
providing
more
variety
potentially
in
the
way
people
can
sit,
improving
and
updating
the
fountain
and
better
infrastructure
all
coming
through
really
clearly.
Thank
you
all.
This
will
really
be
important
for
helping
us
to
set
priorities
about
what
we
address
first
and
how
we
think
about
the
renovation.
C
So,
finally,
we
have
a
category
of
analysis
that
really
focuses
on
the
square's
character
and
character
is
really
meant
to
encompass
two
things.
How
does
copley
square
feel
when
you're
there
and
what's
its
main,
aesthetic
and
identity?
So
this
is
a
little
bit
more
of
a
nebulous
question
than
the
than
the
two
we've
answered
about
programming
and
about
the
physical
condition.
C
So
we've
provided
three
different
lenses
to
think
first
about
what
copley
square
is
really
it's
a
it's
a
palimpsest.
It's
many
different
things
to
many
different
people.
So
at
times
it
can
be
an
active
and
social
gathering
place.
These
are
the
kinds
of
events
that
kira
spoke
about:
the
big
gatherings,
the
protests,
the
celebrations,
the
cultural
events
at
other
times
of
day
and
night
and
season
it's
really
a
restful
and
peaceful
place.
It's
a
place
where
you
come
to
get
away
from
the
city
next
slide,
please
retica!
C
And,
finally,
I
think
copley
square
has
long
been
an
iconic
part
of
the
boston
experience.
It's
not
a
historic
square,
but
it's
surrounded
by
history
and
it
it
uses
a
number
of
really
important
materials
and
it
has
a
context
in
the
city
with
surrounded
by
historic
buildings
that
really
make
it
an
important
part
of
the
tourist
stop,
as
well
as
a
part
of
the
city
that
really
defines
what
boston
is
with
its
brick
textures
and
its
tree
canopy,
and
it's
really
stately
architecture.
C
So
that
said,
copley
square
is,
is
really
a
space.
That
is
many
things
to
many
people
at
many
different
times
of
day.
It
provides
those
classic
views
of
boston's
back
bay
in
many
different
places
throughout
the
square.
It
has
four
really
important
monuments
and
sculptures
everything
from
the
boston
marathon,
hundred-year
annual
hundred-year
commemoration
to
the
john
singleton
copley
statue
and
the
tortoise
and
hare
statues
which
are
really
important
pieces.
C
It
has
iconic
paving
throughout
which
you
can
see
in
the
red
hatched
zones
of
this,
and
then
it
has
many
spaces
that
are
shady
and
passive
and
quiet
versus
open
and
windy.
Again,
it
has
many
different
kinds
of
spaces,
depending
on
on
what
kind
of
space
you're
looking
for
in
the
city.
So
it's
many
things
so
to
understand
this:
the
opportunities
better.
We
put
copley
square
in
the
context
of
a
number
of
different
squares
and
open
spaces
within
the
city
of
boston
and
elsewhere.
C
That
can
help
us
understand
what
the
opportunities
are
and
which
direction
copley
square
should
should
go
in
in
the
future.
So
you
can
see
that
copley
square
is
sitting
in
sort
of
the
middle
of
this
diagram.
It's
about
halfway
between
a
mostly
paved
space
and
a
mostly
green
space,
and
it's
about
halfway
between
a
really
quiet
and
reflective
space
that
supports
small
groups
and
a
much
more
active
and
social
space
that
that
encourages
large
groups
and
larger
crowds.
C
C
The
dashed
red
line
shows
the
outline
in
the
same
scale
of
copley
square,
so
you
can
see
that
post
office
square
in
copley
square
are
pretty
much
the
same
size
post
office
square
is
an
urban
square
that
is
very
quiet
and
passive
and
interior
facing
it
has
quite
a
bit
of
pavement,
but
that
pavement
is
distributed
throughout
and
really
focused
around
a
central,
green
lawn.
This
is
a
place
that
shelters
you
from
the
traffic.
C
It
turns
inward,
it's
a
quiet
respite
from
the
city,
that's
in
contrast
with
dewey
square,
which
is
on
the
greenway,
which
is
really
open
to
its
surrounding
city
fabric.
It
has
a
really
large
plaza,
which
is
shown
in
white
in
the
diagram
on
the
left-hand
side,
and
that
closet
is
open
to
the
streets
and
so
on
big
busy
days.
The
streets
can
become
an
extension
of
the
plaza
and
the
and
the
square
itself
really
focuses
outward
and
provides
a
lot
of
opportunity
for
big
events
and
outward
facing
visible
kinds
of
events.
C
This
also,
in
the
context
of
I'm
just
looking
a
little
bit
beyond
boston.
This
is
bryant
park
in
new
york
city,
which
is
a
very
famous
city
square,
also
adjacent
to
the
public
library
in
new
york
city,
so
similar
context
to
the
one
that
we
have
here
with
copoly
square.
It's
a
much
larger
space.
The
copoly
square
is
about
the
same
size
as
the
interior
lawn,
so
it
has
a
number
of
paved
spaces
around
it.
C
C
And
finally,
we
also
offer
you
the
consideration
of
pioneer
courthouse
square
which,
although
very
distant
from
us,
is
a
very
similar
size
to
copley
square
and
very
very
paved.
So.
This
is
a
really
important
plaza
in
the
heart
of
portland
oregon,
where
events
like
like
celebrations
and
protests,
really
really
come
and
activate
the
square
at
all
times
of
days
and
nights.
So
it's
a
really
active
urban
square,
a
little
bit
similar
to
boston's
own
city
hall,
plaza,
but
much
smaller
and
sort
of
more
intimate
in
the
scale
of
copley.
C
So
we
have
a
number
of
questions
for
you
here
about
how
the
vision,
how
your
vision
for
the
square
should
feel
on
the
following
sets
of
scales,
so
on
a
scale
of
one
to
five
from
lush
and
green
and
planted
to
much
more
paved.
Where
do
you
think
the
future
of
copley
should
be
so?
I
see
a
lot
of
people
jumping
right
in
to
answer
this,
and
I
see
really
the
vast
majority
of
people
saying
we
should
land
somewhere
right
in
the
middle,
which
is
actually
very
similar
to
the
kapolei
that
we
have
today.
C
C
C
C
We'll
take
all
of
that
into
consideration
and
it'll
form
the
foundation
for
a
number
of
conceptual
ideas
that
we
will
bring
back
to
you
in
the
winter,
and
so
that
will
form
the
basis
of
our
next
meeting
and
from
there
we'll
refine
into
one
and
we'll
check
to
make
sure
that
we
got
that
right.
Based
on
your
feedback
from
the
second
meeting
and
we'll
bring
that
back
to
you
in
the
spring
b
is
just
gonna
transition
here.
B
B
If
you're
calling
us
by
phone,
you
press
star
nine
to
raise
your
hand
and
then
once
we
call
on
you,
you
press
star
six
to
unmute
yourself
in
order
to
tell
your
friends
and
to
do
the
survey
yourself,
which
we're
really
hoping
all
of
our
attendees
tonight
will
go
to
this
survey.
We've
got
https
colon
forward,
slash
forward,
slash
b,
I
t
dot.
L
y
forward
slash
copley
dash
survey.
B
We
also
would
love
it
if
you
could
go
to
our
website
to
basically
keep
track
of
the
project.
This
is
where
we're
going
to
be
hosting
the
different
meeting
dates:
we're
going
to
be
posting
videos
that
you
know
from
the
previous
meetings.
Any
updates
you
can
sign
up
to
be
on
our
effectively
our
mailing
list.
So
if
you
could
do
that
as
well,
that
would
be
fantastic.
That's
https,
colon
forward,
slash
forward,
slash
bit
dot
ly
forward,
slash
copley
dash
boston.
B
F
F
And
so
I
I
to
me
there
is
no
reason
why
copley
square
should
not
be
competing
with
the
you
know,
the
the
best
european
plazas
that
we
all
share
our
photos
of.
If
we
get
a
chance
to
go
there
or
really
any
any
central
square
in
the
world.
I
think
that
I
think
of
all
of
the
I'm
biased,
but
of
all
of
the
kind
of
central
congregating
spaces
in
boston.
F
F
G
A
G
G
G
B
A
Why
don't
we
jump
into
some
of
the
questions
that
are
in
the
q
a
and
those
who
had
questions
that
you
wanted
to
ask
verbally
you're
welcome
to
put
them
in
the
q
a
if
we're
having
technical
difficulties,
getting
the
mute
unmute
to
work.
We
can
try
to
circle
back
to
you
directly
again
in
a
little
bit.
H
Thanks
eliza,
this
is
zach
here
I
can
jump
in
so
hi
everyone,
I'm
a
civil
engineer
at
swasaki
and
excited
to
be
here.
I
saw
that
question
from
paula
and
I
think
it's
a
fantastic
point
that
we're
definitely
going
to
be
focusing
on,
which
is
how
do
we
keep
copley
still
functioning
as
a
storm
water
absorber
moving
forward
despite
any
surface
changes,
either
more
pervious
or
impervious,
and
really
setting
that
as
a
goal
and
a
priority
for
the
project
to
get
that
storm
water
back
into
the
ground
and
recharge
groundwater?
A
C
Yeah,
that's
a
great
question:
liza.
We
we
don't
have
specific
data
on
how
people
get
to
the
square
only
that
it
is
a
destination
landscape
for
people
from
all
over
the
city.
We
have
looked
quite
a
bit
at
the
at
the
sort
of
pedestrian
traffic
patterns,
as
well
as
the
vehicular
patterns
that
move
people
around
the
square.
So
we
know
we
know
that
people
arrive
along
dartmouth,
that's
a
major
commuting
route
as
well
as
down
the
length
of
boylston
street
that
those
are
the
major
routes.
C
We
do
not
know
whether
people
come
to
park,
their
car
and
walk
to
the
square
or
whether
they
are
arriving
at
other
destinations
and
happen
upon
the
square,
and
that
would
be
the
the
purpose
of
another
study,
but
I
think
we
we're
very
interested
in
how
they
get
into
the
square,
those
corners
and
the
streets
and
then
how
they
move
through
the
square
and
what
their,
what
their
patterns
are
through
this
square.
So
we've
definitely
studied
that
at
length.
A
A
C
Thanks
liza,
that's
a
great
question.
I
think,
as
a
team.
So
far
we're
still
in
an
analysis
phase,
so
we're
looking
at
that
architecture
and
getting
really
excited
about
the
opportunities
to
have
great
views
to
the
architecture
and
really
highlight
and
frame
those
views
with
with
smart
use
of
trees
and
other
devices.
That
really
help
reveal
a
really
interesting
and
exciting
viewpoint
on
the
on
the
city's
architectural
history.
A
Great,
thank
you
there's
a
lot
of
great
questions
here.
I
think
there's
a
couple
that
are
really
about
project
duration
and
when
construction
would
happen
and
how
long
that
construction
might
take-
and
it's
too
soon
for
us
to
know
that
the
duration
of
construction
but
b,
would
you
want
to
just
give
a
sense
of
the
overall
project
timeline
just
for
a
reminder
for
anyone
who
may
not
have
caught
that.
B
Sure
we're
really
looking
at
focusing
on
developing
the
design
and
the
construction
documentation
during
basically
throughout
2021,
and
then
construction
would
probably
take
about
a
year,
so
that
would
probably
be
in
2022.
I
think
the
sort
of
question
one
of
many
questions
would
be.
You
know
what
type
of
renovation
are
we
talking
about.
You
know
complexity
versus
simplicity,
something
that
would
take
a
little
bit
longer.
We're
also
talking
about
a
city
location.
B
At
this
point,
the
only
other
consideration
also
would
be
the
marathon,
and
if
we
were
looking
at
trying
to
break
ground
in
february
or
somewhere
around
when
the
marathon
would
start,
we
would
want
to
pause
and
wait
for
that
to
happen
and
start
after
that,
so
that
we
would
try
and
create
as
little
disruption
as
possible,
not
just
for
the
marathon,
but
for
as
many
things
as
we
can.
But
obviously
we.
A
There's
a
really
interesting
question
that
just
came
in
from
martin
roehter
about
the
impacts
of
covid
on
the
neighborhood,
particularly
you
know
in
two
aspects,
with
shopping
on
newbury
street,
really
being
impacted
by
the
reduced
foot
traffic
and
also
the
reduction
in
office.
You
know
daily
office
users
in
the
back
bay
because
employers
have
their
employees
working
remotely.
A
So
how
do
the
question
is?
How
do
we
coordinate
planning
of
copley
square
to
try
to
secure
a
prosperous
future
for
this
neighborhood,
and
I
think
I
would
turn
that
to
sazaki
see
if
you
can
give
us
some
insights
as
to
how
we
do
that
and
I'm
happy
to
add
some
thoughts
from
a
parks
perspective
as
well.
C
Okay,
eliza,
that
sounds
great
and
I
think
I'll
I'll
open
it
to
our
entire
team,
but
I
I
think
you
know
this
is
a
hot
button
question
for
all
designers
and
activators
of
urban
public
space
right
now
that
big
question
of
what
what
comes
next
and
how
soon
does
our
society
kind
of
find
a
new
equilibrium
and
reinhabit
and
reclaim
public
space
without
social
distancing
measures
and
other
things
that
are
really
governing
how
we
use
space
today.
I
think
we've
seen
an
incredible
outpouring
of
love
for
public
space
in
urban
environments
during
covid.
C
These
are
places
that
have
become
places
where
we
can
see
our
friends
and
neighbors
and
meet
people,
and
I
think
we
will
expect
that
copley
square
will
continue,
that
same
function,
people
having
an
opportunity
to
meet
and
see
each
other
outside
and
and
see
friends
and
neighbors
outside
and
and
that
will
continue
to
be
a
really
important
aspect
of
copley
square.
I
think
the
question
of
how
copley
square
encourages
and
act
and
has
larger
gatherings
is
really
going
to
be
something
that
plays
out
over
the
course
of
this
design
process.
A
A
B
So
right
now
we're
going
to
have
it
posted
on
our
project
page
on
our
boston.com
website,
and
we
have
a
steering
committee
of
people
who
represent
various
concerns
within
the
park
that
we
are
working
with
as
well,
and
we
have
asked
them
to
forward
it
out
as
well.
And
so
that's
a
group
of
people
representing
homeless
concerns
representing
some
of
the
arts.
Some
of
the
business
concerns
some
of
the
neighborhood
groups.
B
You
know
creating
a
list
of
the
ideas
that
we
have
been
presented
with,
in
which
we
come
up
with
during
this
project,
but
I
know
I
think
that
there
are
different
arms
within
the
parks
department
that
deal
with
sort
of
rfps
and
contracts
for
that
type
of
thing.
So
you
know
this
is
really
what
we're
talking
about
tonight.
While
while
we
embrace
all
ideas-
and
we
want
to
hear
as
many
ideas
as
as
are
out
there-
this
is
really
a
project
about
physical
and
capital
improvements.
A
C
A
Thank
you.
There
was
a
question
that
came
in
right
at
the
beginning
of
the
presentation
tonight
that
I
hadn't
circled
back
to
yet
in
parts
I
don't
have
a
clear
answer
it
was
about.
Does
the
baa
pay
for
the
sod
replacement
after
the
marathon,
and
my
understanding
is
yes,
but
that's
not
something
I've
worked
on
directly.
A
So
I
I
say
yes
with
a
little
bit
of
caution
and
I
will
double
check
that
and
if
there's
anything
that
we
need
to
correct,
we
can
correct
that
at
our
next
meeting
to
have
some
more
clarity
there,
but
I
didn't
want
to
leave
that
unanswered.
Even
if
my
answer
is
a
little
bit
loose,
there
was
a
question
a
little
bit
earlier
on
also
from
james
berkman
asking.
A
C
A
The
questions
have
started
to
dwindle
down,
but
there's
one
here
that
we
didn't
answer
earlier.
Is
there
any
data
on
how
various
ethnic
or
racial
groups
interact
with
copley
square?
One
piece
of
data
that
I
can
share
is
really
just
related
to
permits,
which
is
it's
not
at
all
a
full
answer.
It's
one
very
narrow
slice
in
how
we
understand
who
is
utilizing
the
square,
but
when
people
apply
for
parks
permits
to
use
the
space
for
an
event
or
a
gathering,
we
have
information
on.
A
You
know
who
they
are,
who
their
group
is,
what
their
event
involves
and
how
many
people
are
expected
or
anticipated
to
attend
an
event.
So
we
share
all
permitted
data,
all
this
all
that
permit
data
with
the
design
team
so
that
they,
you
know,
can
look
back
on
that
and
and
see
what
kind
of
information
is
helpful
for
their
process.
A
That,
again,
is
just
one
little
blip.
The
survey
that's
out
does
have
some
demographic
questions
as
part
of
it.
So
the
more
people
who
fill
out
the
survey
and
the
more
widely
that's
shared,
we'll
be
able
to
see
who's
responded
and,
if
we're
getting
a
reasonable
diversity
in
the
responses
and
whether
that
diversity
is
reflective
of
boston
or
whether
we're
really
just
getting
answers
from
a
particular
democratic
which
will
be
informative.
As
the
project.
B
B
C
And
so
we've
been
putting
that
into
practice
at
city
hall.
Sasaki
is
got
renovations
to
boston
city
hall,
plaza
underway.
It's
something
that
we're
really
deeply
interested
in
we're
always
learning.
We
don't
have
all
the
answers,
but
I
think
we're
curious
about
how
to
design
space
that
feels
welcoming
to
different
cultural
contexts.
That
has
details
as
well
as
spaces
that
feel
welcoming
to
the
widest
variety
of
people,
so
that
it
can
be
an
inclusive
square
for
all
of
boston.
B
There
are,
there
are
a
number
of
things
that
brought
up
either
pieces
of
other
questions
or
things
that
were
brought
up
in
the
chat
having
to
do
with
the
homeless
population.
That's
part
of
the
square,
and
we
certainly
recognize
that
it's
a
very
prevalent
population
right
now,
especially
with
the
uses
of
public
spaces
being
sort
of
varied
with
with
kovid,
and
so
it's
something
that
we
we're,
certainly
aware
of,
and
we
want
to
you
know,
design
with
with
them
in
mind
and
not
exclusive
of
them.
B
I
think
as
a
department
as
an
agency,
you
know
we're
trying
to
create
spaces
that
are
enjoyed
by
people
and
sometimes
that
means
homeless,
and
sometimes
that
means
other
citizens
we're
working
with
trinity
church,
obviously
because
they're
in
a
butter,
but
also
because
they
have
an
outreach
program
and
we're
also
working
with
the
pine
street
inn.
Both
of
them
are
members
of
our
steering
committee,
and
so
you
know
we
have
our
own
sort
of
designs
that
you
know.
B
We
don't
like
to
use
benches
that
have
too
many
arm
rests
that
make
it
impossible
for
someone
to
sit
down
and
put
their
feet
up.
You
know
we
don't
we
don't
use
those
types
of
furnishings,
but
you
know
we
want
to
include
them
in
this
discussion
to
to
notify
us
if
there
are
things
that
that
we're
missing
out
on
that,
you
know
we
could
we
we
could
make
our
design
sort
of
inclusive
to
everybody,
because
our
stance
is
really
not
that
we
want
everybody
who
is
homeless
to
never
come
to
copley
square.
B
F
Hi
this
is
kenzie
I
just
wanted
to.
I
wanted
to
ask
the
team.
It
was
sort
of
alluded
to
in
passing,
but
I
know
I
know
a
few
people
have
raised
to
me.
The
sort
of
dream
of
you
know
either
closing
or
closing
for
sort
of
certain
times
a
day
or
weekend
or
something
like
just
thinking
about
how
to
treat
differently.
F
All
kinds
of
right.
We'd
really
have
to
think
about
what
the
traffic
impacts
are.
What
you
could
or
couldn't
do
what
it
would
look
like
to
have
kind
of
more
pedestrianized
pavers
if
you
were
going
to
do
it
as
part
of
the
time
or
all
the
time.
So
knowing
that
that's
a
kind
of
complicated
question,
and
also
that
we're
talking
here
about
a
kind
of
visioning
process,
what
what
is
the
degree
to
which
that
kind
of
idea
will
come
into
this
process
or
can
come
into
this
process?.
B
B
It
is
an
ongoing
discussion
and
obviously
a
test
closure
would
have
to
occur
at
some
point,
and
so
I
think
those
those
conversations
are
certainly
happening,
and
I
think
it's
pretty.
I
think
it's
pretty
apparent
that
there's
a
lot
of
curiosity
and
a
lot
of
enthusiasm
about
that
prospect.
Sort
of
opening
up
dartmouth
street
to
pedestrians,
perhaps
exclusively
so
you
know,
I
think,
as
far
as
our
design
goes,
our
scope
limit.
B
As
of
now
really
is
our
sidewalk
and
with
further
developments
that
that
could
change,
and
I
think
what
we're
what
we're
talking
about
is
you
know
creating
a
space
that
could
work
with
a
future
design
which
incorporates
a
different
pavement
pattern,
a
different
layout.
You
know
what
have
you
whatever
could
happen
in
that
street
bed,
but
until
we
really
know
what
the
requirements
would
be
of
that
space
as
far
as
emergency
vehicle
access
all
these
details,
you
know
what
that
section
looks
like.
B
C
So
there's
an
opportunity
in
the
future
to
ensure
that
those
spaces
could
be
connected,
so
the
teams
will
work
closely
together
throughout
the
planning
process.
That's
a
master
plan,
so
it
may
not
be
implemented
on
the
same
timeline.
As
we
said,
we
won't
hold
back
renovations
of
copley
square,
but
we
will
ensure
that
the
vision
for
the
two
spaces
is
really
united
and
could
be
united
even
further
by
opportunities
along
dartmouth.
Street.
F
Great
now
that's
great
to
hear.
I
just
think
it
is
a
rare
opportunity
to
have
even
one
of
these
planning
processes
and
to
be
having
two
of
them
concurrently
in
a
place
that
we
all
you
know
care
about
so
much.
I
I
just
really
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
that
we
are
making
that
connection.
So
thank
you.
A
I
Elliot
laffer
and
I'm
chair
of
the
neighborhood
association
back
bay
and
just
responding
to
the
the
point
that
kenzie
just
brought
up
and
the
idea
of
a
traffic-free
dartmouth
street
on
on
one
hand,
is
very
attractive
with
a
huge
butt
and
the
butt
is.
The
dartmouth
street
is
how
traffic
from
the
turnpike
gets
to
the
back
bay,
and
if
traffic
doesn't
go
down,
dartmouth
street
it
goes
to
berkeley
street
and
berkeley
street
is
already
terribly
overburdened
with
traffic
or
it
goes
around
the
prudential
center,
which
is
a
very,
very
difficult
route.
I
So
it's
a
really
really
serious
traffic
concern
to
to
take
that
out
and
I
would
well
well.
I
agree
with
the
with
the
idea
of
looking
carefully
at
all
the
the
planning
potential
that
we
have
there.
This
is
a
really
hard
call
and
needs
really
really
really
serious
transportation
traffic
analysis,
because
I
think
you
could
plug
the
whole
area.
If
you
take
dartmouth
street
out
of
the
out
of
the
grid,
at
least
during
key
times.
A
Anyone
else
have
a
question
or
a
comment
or
a
thought
to
share
or
something
that
you
tried
to
ask,
and
I
missed
it
as
I
was
going
through
questions
or
chats.
Oh
here's
something
that
I
might
have
missed.
There
was
a
question:
has
there
ever
been
an
idea
of
creating
a
permanent
farmers
market
with
small
covered
booths
like
at
bryant
park,.
A
C
A
J
J
I
was
particularly
struck
at
the
beginning
by
a
reminder
of
copley's
history
as
an
art
square,
and
I
wonder
if
there
are
examples
that
you've
seen
that
we
could
be
thinking
about
of
other
urban
spaces
that
are
brought
alive
with
art
beyond
the
beautiful
architecture
that
we've
got
at
copley
square.
Are
there
models
that
we
can
be
thinking
about
that
have
inspired
you.
C
Gosh,
catherine,
that's
an
excellent
question.
I
think
you
know
there
are
so
many
models
of
public
art
in
public
space,
and
I
think
you
know
we
actually
have
a
few
questions
in
the
survey
that
point
at
this.
Whether
you
would
like
you
know
whether
the
community
would
like
to
see
the
art
and
the
sort
of
the
way
art
is
expressed
in
the
square,
be
looking
back
towards
the
square's
history
or
more
forward
thinking
about
boston
and
back
bay's
future.
C
So
we're
curious
your
opinions
about
that.
I
don't
have
any
examples
tip
of
mind.
I
would
say
that
you
know
public
spaces
around
boston
are
doing
really
exciting
things
with
public
art.
Everything
from
the
you
know
the
giant
inflatable
bunnies
that
were
on
the
lawn
on
d
and
so
the
sort
of
temporary
activation
with
public
art
to
the
ideas
around.
You
know
the
martin
luther
king,
memorial
and
other
kind
of
exciting,
more
permanent
pieces
of
art
and
reflection
that
the
city
is
contemplating.
C
I
think
there's
there's
really
a
lot
of
exciting
ways
that
the
arts
community
can
engage
in
the
city.
The
city
hall,
plaza
project
is
engaging.
The
percent
for
arts
program
within
the
city
of
boston
and
so
we're
exploring
ways
to
work
with
the
arts
and
culture
commission
and
ensure
that
modern
artists
have
an
opportunity
to
make
their
mark
on
public
space
in
in
both
a
permanent
and
a
revolving
way.
And
I
think,
there's
a
real
opportunity
for
that.
Same
kind
of
civic
expression
and
artistic
expression
to
make
its
mark
on
on
the
copoly.
J
Just
want
to
say
again
thank
you
so
much
and
I
think
there's
an
opportunity
to
really
make
this
one
of
the
places
that
people
really
remember
when
they
come
and
visit
here
and
to
see
it
differently
when
we
come
on
a
daily
or
weekly
basis
for
those
of
us
who
live
and
work
in
the
area.
So
thank
you
again.
J
B
Yeah,
well,
I
think
you
know,
as
I've
said,
probably
17
times
already.
Please
take
our
survey
and
tell
all
of
your
friends
about
it
and
tell
people
who
aren't
your
friends
about
it.
We
have
our
the
the
link
is
right
here
on
your
screen,
so
you
can
scan
it
on
the
qr
code
or
just
copy
it
down,
take
a
photo
with
your
phone.
I
just
wanted
to
thank
everybody
tonight
for
for
coming
and
and
participating,
and
you
know
we.
B
We
acknowledge
that
this
is
a
strange
format
to
go
from
the
previous
parks
meetings
that
used
to
be
live
and
in
person
and
a
very
different
type
of
interaction.
This
is
something
that
we
are
all
trying
to
get
used
to,
and
so
we
we
certainly
thank
you
for
for
bearing
with
us
and
the
glitches
that
are
involved,
and
it's
just
it's
great
to
hear
and
read
all
of
your
questions
and-
and
I
hope
you
continue
thinking
about
this-
and
I
hope
get
in
touch
with
me.
B
You
know,
if
you
think
of
something
after
the
meeting
send
me
an
email
and
let
me
know
I'd
love
to
continue
the
conversation
and
we
hope
to
see
you
at
our
next
meeting
we're
going
to
post
when
that
is
going
to
be
the
exact
date
on
our
project
website.
So
please
go
back
and
check
that
and
yeah.
Thank
you
guys
so
much.
We
really
appreciate
it.