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From YouTube: Ceylon Park Design Meeting #3
Description
Date: June 28, 2023
Boston Parks and their design consultant present a concept plan for Ceylon Park renovations
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During
the
discussion
session.
We
encourage
you
to
turn
your
video
on
if
you
feel
comfortable
doing
so
next
slide.
Okay,
great,
so
we
want
everyone
to
feel
comfortable,
sharing
their
questions
and
comments
either
verbally
or
in
the
chat.
You
can
also
feel
free
to
email
me
directly.
If
you
want
to
discuss
the
project
further
and
I
will
put
my
email
address
in
the
chat
as
well,
and
then
we
have
up
on
the
slides
some
Zoom
tips.
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Alize
Cabral
and
Ashley
Gomez
are
important
team
members
from
the
mayor's
office
of
Neighborhood
Services
and
great
resources
for
Community
concerns,
and
then
we
have
Sasaki
the
landscape.
Architecture
Firm
on
the
project,
so
joining
us
tonight
is
that
Crisco
for
a
principal
in
charge
and
Garrett
Craig
Lucas
the
project
manager
as
well
as
Kiera
sergeant
and
Sophie
belmare.
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Thanks
so
that
you're
probably
familiar
with
these,
if
you've
been
to
previous
meetings,
but
these
are
the
components
that
you
think
about
going
into
the
public
park
design.
So
Community
input
such
as
this
meeting
tonight,
safety
guidelines
and
Regulatory
guidelines
such
as
Ada,
the
city
of
Boston
priorities
and
the
Parks
and
Recreation
goals
and
we'll
cover
those
on
the
next
two
slides.
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The
next
slide,
please
so.
City
of
Boston
priorities
include
expanding
walkable
access
to
parks,
addressing
equity,
climate
resilience,
health
and
Housing,
and
Community
Building
next
slide
and
Parks
and
Recreation
goals
include
creating
spaces
that
are
accessible
and
available
to
all
that
have
a
diverse
balance
and
efficient
mix
of
uses
that
include
meaningful
and
inclusive
community
engagement
that
incorporate
adaptive
and
resilient
landscapes
and
promote
connections.
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So
the
first
bit
of
context
here
is
this
context:
plan
or
context
map
that
situates
Ceylon
park
within
the
neighborhood
Salem
Parks
Stitch
within
a
dense
neighborhood,
surrounded
by
a
number
of
schools
noted
in
in
pink
other
parts,
noted
in
green
and
is
connected
to
to
Transit
via
the
commuter
Veil
and
bus
line
adjacent
to
the
site.
You
can
see
the
proximity
to
to
offer
upham's
Corner
in
that
quarter,
mile
walk
radius
situated
in
the
Grove
Hall
neighborhood
here
next
slide.
Please.
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So
why
renovate
today,
as
as
I
mentioned
Salem
park,
is,
is
very
well
used.
The
sort
of
field
is,
you
know
in
high
use.
The
the
play
areas
are
are
also
well
used
and
because
of
that
they're
they're
I'm,
you
know,
there's
a
need
just
based
off
of
the
natural
cycle
of
needing
to
renovate
Parks,
every
15
or
20
years
to
renovate
the
park.
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E
We're
also
trying
to
create
a
balance
of
senior
citizen
think
about
how
we
could
redesign
the
park
to
accommodate
the
uses
that
have
evolved
over
time
and
overall,
creating
a
resilient
landscape
that
that
allows,
for
you,
know,
ease
of
Maintenance
and
has
a
successful
maintenance
program
next
slide.
Please.
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So,
since
the
last
meeting,
we've
taken
a
close
look
at
the
existing
trees
on
on
this
site
or
a
closer
look,
I
should
say,
and
we've
walked
the
site
with
an
arborist,
and
we
considered
whether
or
not
the
trees
were
in
good
health
if
they
were
threatened
by
Professor
diseases.
And
if
you
know
some
of
these
species
were
invasive
species
and
also
considering
the
value
that
they're
creating
in
the
landscape.
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More
broadly,
so
in
considering
the
condition
of
these
trees,
we
noted
that
some
trees
on
the
slope
need
to
be
removed.
Most
of
the
trees
on
the
site
are
that
they
need
to
be
removed,
are
on
on
that
steep
slope,
and
the
impetus
from
removing
those
trees
is
to
increase
visibility
and
improve
on
maintenance
and
allow
for
clearing
of
of
those
invasive
species
that
that
are
apparently
there
next
slide.
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E
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The
second
design
meeting
was
held
at
Salem
park
in
May,
where
we
presented
the
Boston,
Parks
and
Recreation
goals
in
the
project
timeline.
We
also
presented
the
three
concept
designs
that
we
had
created,
based
on
the
feedback
from
the
first
design
meeting
and
from
the
first
survey,
and
so
those
three
concepts
that
were
presented
during
this
time
was
the
concept
One
play
concept,
2
Fitness
in
concept,
three
Gathering
extensive.
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There
was
also
a
priority
and
preferences
preferences
survey,
which
was
used
to
help
determine
what
areas
or
elements
of
the
park
should
be
prioritized,
as
well
as
preferences
for
elements
throughout
the
part
such
as
color
themes
or
planting
receiving
types.
Then
there
was
also
a
second
survey
together
feedback
which
yielded
about
thirds
responses
next
slide.
Please.
F
It
all
concept,
one
also
ranked
very
high
for
the
nature
play
theme,
which
many
respondents
bring
to
the
five
meaning
they
liked
it
a
lot.
We
also
found
that
water
play
ranked
as
the
highest
priority
item
of
all
the
major
feature.
Options
next
slide.
Please
concept:
two
Fitness
ranked
number
one
for
preferred
concept
plan
across
the
board
and
the
way
this
plan
address.
Spectator
seating
surrounding
the
field
also
ranked
the
highest
across
all
the
options.
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F
Concept
three
Gathering
ranked
second
overall
for
our
preferred
concept,
and
it
was
also
ranked
second
for
the
way
it
addressed:
spectator,
seating
around
the
field
and
for
the
Gathering
playground
areas
at
Columbia
Road.
It
received
a
perfect
score,
meaning
that
everyone
who
voted
on
this
area
on
a
scale
of
one
to
five
gave
it
a
five.
So
you'll
see
that
we
used
utilize
this
feedback
in
progressing
the
design.
Further.
That
care
will
present
to
you
next.
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Oh
sorry,
all
right,
hi,
everyone,
I'm
Kira,
I'm
part
of
the
design
team,
and
so
now
we're
gonna
get
into
the
plan
that
we
made
from
all
of
this
feedback.
We
call
this
the
schematic
design
plan.
It's
not
100
final,
it's
what
we're
going
to
keep
developing
over
the
summer
and
the
fall,
but
it
does
show
the
direction
that
the
parks
department
is
planning
on
taking
to
put
this
plan
together,
we
start
with
the
project
goals.
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So
this
is
something
we're
required
to
do
by
law
and
it's
appreciated.
By
most
users
we
have
to
make
the
paths
navigable,
with
a
wheelchair
or
a
stroller,
so
not
and
also
for
people
with
lower
Mobility.
We
have
to
make
sure
that
they
have
low
slopes
and
there
are
ways
for
people
to
get
up
that
don't
include
stairs.
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Next,
we
want
to
promote
a
safe
environment.
This
is
a
major
goal
because
of
what
a
concern.
It
was
a
concern
of
people
who
use
the
park
and
was
brought
up
in
the
community
meetings
and
the
ways
that
our
design
can
address.
This
is
through
lighting
cameras,
signage
and
then,
as
Garrett
discussed,
increasing
visibility
on
that
large
slope
in
particular,
where
we're
going
to
be
removing
the
big
trees
and
dense
vegetation.
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The
next
project
goal
is
creating
a
diverse,
balanced
and
efficient
mix
of
uses.
So
this
is
this
is
It's
a
large
Park,
but
it
also
has
a
lot
of
different
uses
going
on
the
the
primary
one
being
soccer,
but
there's
playgrounds,
two
playgrounds,
really
basketball
and
seating
circulation
routes.
So
a
lot
of
different
things.
We
want
to
create
synergies
between
and
we
want
to
diversify
how
things
are
interacting
with
each
other.
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Of
course
we
want
to
design
for
successful
maintenance.
We
had
a
lot
of
requests
for
more
upkeep
of
the
restrooms
and
better
routine
maintenance,
and
that's
certainly
something
that
we'll
work
on
in
general,
but
in
terms
of
the
design
Direction.
What
we
can
do
in
this
plan
is
convert
overgrown
areas
into
lawn
to
make
sure
that
the
park
is
easy
to
maintain
and
we
can
use
proven
durable
materials
that
will
last,
for
you
know,
15
to
20
years
or
longer.
G
And
finally,
our
goal
to
generate
a
resilient
landscape
that
can
adapt
to
Future
conditions
means
considering
the
existing
tree.
Canopy,
like
Garrett,
discussed
with
the
plan
of
thinking
about,
what's
going
to
last
and
what's
not
going
to
last
in
terms
of
the
tree
canopy
and
making
sure
that
the
site
can
handle
increased
heat
and
rain
and
provide
cooling
for
the
community
as
it
gets
hotter
in
the
future.
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G
We
have
two
emergency
call
boxes
and
that's
one
of
the
things
as
I
go
through
in
detail,
it'll
be
on
the
sheet
about
safety
or
the
page
about
safety,
and
then
the
basketball
court
on
the
top
that'll
be
sorry
it's
one
of
the
last
slides,
but
it
is
in
there
we'll
talk
about
the
updates
there
too.
So
there's
a
slide
on
kind
of
each
area
where
I'm
really
trying
to
go
into
detail
on
each
one.
G
So
this
is
the
schematic
design
plan
that
takes
all
those
goals,
all
those
thoughts.
It
combines
a
little
bit
from
scheme.
One
scheme
two
scheme,
three
concept,
one
two
and
three,
the
favorite
parts
that
we
heard
people
would
appreciate
and
tries
to
put
them
all
together
with
the
other
things
we're
balancing
on
the
plan.
G
The
first
item-
I'm
gonna,
go
into
in
detail
is
circulation
and
the
plan
keeps
the
main
route
with
stairs
so
sort
of
the
fastest
route
from
Columbia
Road
entrance
up
to
Magnolia
Street.
We
added
a
series
of
ramps
and
sloped
walkways.
That's
this
hot
pink
line
that
goes
all
the
way
up
without
stairs
to
Magnolia
Street.
We
had
to
add
some
new
sections
down
around
the
Gathering
area
here
and
then
also
a
new
section
leading
to
this
Plaza
overlook
along
what
is
currently
a
retaining
wall.
A
A
G
So
over.
On
the
North
side,
we
heard
a
lot
of
feedback
about
needing
a
better
route
from
the
school
Roxbury
prep
down
to
the
field,
and
we
also
saw
on
site
that
there
was
this
desire
line
going
from
this
entrance
straight
up
to
the
school
so
bypassing
these
stairs
and
in
order
to
make
an
accessible
route
work,
as
well
as
to
accommodate
that
desire
line
up
to
the
school.
G
We
decided
to
remove
the
grand
stairs
that
are
here
currently
leading
down
to
the
Overlook
and
instead
have
a
shorter
route
that
follows
the
desire
line
right
up
to
the
school
entrance
and
an
accessible
route
that
swings
around
and
up
to
Magnolia,
Street
and
tuck,
in
where
it
swings
around
a
set
of
spectator
seating,
which
was
highly
desired
from
scheme
two
or
concept.
Two.
G
In
this
slide
we
don't
I,
you
know
we
had
the
arrows
are
removed,
so
you
can
see
a
little
bit
more
detail.
You
can
see
where
we're
showing
ramp
and
when
I
say
ramp,
I
mean
a
path
that
has
handrails
and
it
has
the
maximum
steepness
that
we
can
have
by
by
regulation
and
also
sloped
walkways
and
stairs.
G
G
So
next
safety
measures
are
really
focused
around
the
entrances
activity
areas
and
that
Main
North
South
Route.
We
heard
people
often
take
when
they
get
off
the
bus
at
night.
The
yellow
dot
shows
where
we're
planning
on
putting
new
path
lighting.
There
will
also
be
some
new
lighting
at
the
basketball
court,
we're
also
showing
in
pink
those
are
proposed
security
cameras
at
the
entrances
sort
of
major.
G
So
next
a
field
renovation,
some
details
about
that.
We're
really
excited
about
being
able
to
propose
spectator,
seating
above
the
wall.
This
was
something
we
heard
resoundingly
people
would
like
to
see
that
partially
because
having
people
on
the
field
during
soccer
games
was
it's
a
bit
of
a
safety
issue
because
they're
so
close
to
the
actual
players.
G
G
You'll
also
notice
that
there's
this
dark
green
line
at
the
bottom
of
the
field,
and
that
is
also
from
scheme
2
about
Fitness.
We
heard
that
people
would
love
to
have
a
100
meter
track.
This
was
mostly
from
the
coaches
we
talked
to
and
the
school
so
that
they
can
do
different
kinds
of
racing
and
activity
to
kind
of
diversify.
The
Athletics
that
were
able
to
happen
on
this
field,
and
we
also
heard
that
regular
Park
users,
so
General
Park
users,
people
who
are
walking
their
dog
or
going
there
every
day.
G
They
really
want
to
see
they
would
love
to
have
a
sort
of
a
more
specified
place
to
walk
around
the
field.
So
we're
proposing
adding
signs.
That's
noted
by
the
letter
s
that
are
prompts
for
stretches
or
exercise,
and
they
would
also
have
a
little
map
and
a
description.
So
you
could
see
how
far
it
is
from
point
to
point
along
the
field.
G
There'll,
be
some
vibrant
path,
markings
to
kind
of
encourage
you
to
follow
and
to
really
give
a
more
of
a
sense
of
presence,
even
though
it's
part
of
these
other
circulation
routes
and
then
we're
also
proposing
having
fitness
equipment
spreading
around
this
route.
So
both
at
this
Plaza,
but
also
a
few
small
areas
along
the
way.
G
G
So
a
lot
of
questions
about
the
material
for
the
slide.
That's
a
great
question.
A
metal
slide
is
a
burn
hazard.
Yes,
good
point:
we
can
do
a
few
things.
One
thing
we
can
do
is
have
a
concrete
slide
potentially,
which
we've
used,
for
example,
at
City
Hall.
They
don't
get
quite
as
hot
or
as
pointed
out,
we
can
cover
it
with
a
shade
sailor.
Tent.
This
area
is
already
pretty
shady
because
of
the
buildings
right
next
to
it.
G
G
G
The
toddler
area
has
this
sort
of
secret
path
through
grass,
with
some
flowering
trees,
protecting
it
from
from
The
Edge
and
then
Little
Acorn
seating
group
right
there.
So
working
on
the
nature
theme
creating
those
hidden
moments
to
go,
find,
but
not
too
hidden
because
it
is
online
and
then
it
has
a
play
structure
that
is
really
dense.
Both
of
these
play
structures
are
really
dense.
G
They
provide
a
lot
of
play,
value
with
different
kinds
of
plays
so
imaginary,
play
climbing,
stretching
physical
activity
and
also
hopefully
discovery
and
then
over
I
should
say
the
slide
that
we're
constantly
thinking
about
how
to
make
things
more
Universal.
So
one
of
those
ways
is
by
providing
lots
of
different
types
of
swings.
Both
of
the
play
structures
definitely
have
transfer
stations,
which
is
something
that
makes
it
accessible
for
people
who
are
coming
from
wheelchairs.
G
We
also
are
envisioning
that
the
ground
plane
is
entirely
level
So,
currently
there's
the
entrance
out
of
asphalts
and
then
a
big
dip,
because
we're
using
mulch
that's
not
level.
This
we
envision
would
be
safety
surface,
so
it's
very
easy
to
navigate
around
and
then,
of
course,
the
picnic
tables
would
have
pull
in
spaces
for
anyone
on
wheels.
G
Thank
you.
The
different
playground
equipment
shown
in
the
previous
page
is
just
an
example.
If
anyone
has
strong
preferences
for
what's
shown
here,
we
would
love
to
hear
them
and
have
it
be
part
of
the
discussion,
something
more
explicitly
nature
themed
versus
what
was
shown
on
the
previous
page,
which
was
like
about
being
at
the
top
of
a
mountain.
So
the
summit
because
you're
way
high
up
or
something
that's
a
little
bit
more
Community
focused
with
a
fire
truck
and
different
houses.
G
G
Concessions
would
probably
fit
on
the
Columbia
Road
entrance,
but
I
will
leave
it
to
Amy
to
add
anything
further
in
the
discussion.
That's
something
we
haven't
talked
to
explicitly
about,
and
then
another
question
that
just
came
in
is:
is
the
play
area
going
to
replace
the
small
playground
on
Magnolia
close
to
Lawrence,
Ave
and.
G
The
last
thing
I
wanted
to
show
was
just
a
section
of
what
this
looks
like
all
put
together.
We
have
this
updated
play
area
up
at
Magnolia
Street.
We
have
the
loop
path
where
people
can
be
running
around
and
circling
and
sitting
at
new
picnic
tables
having
that
great
Overlook
to
the
field
and
the
physical
connections
starting
right
at
that
overlook
and
then
down
at
the
field,
an
updated
area
for
everyone
to
play,
but
also
this
new
field
route
that
will
help
diversify
the
kinds
of
activities
that
can
happen
on
the
field
itself.
G
A
Thanks
Cara,
let's
see
I,
know,
we've
been
kind
of
covering
the
questions
in
the
chat
as
they
come
in,
but
I
think
I
see.
Mike
is
another
one.
We
Gathering
space
on
Magnolia
Street.
Can
there
be
a
spot
for
a
porta
potty?
We
are
currently
running
renting
one
since
we're
using
the
basketball
court
on
Saturdays,
yeah
I
think
we
could
certainly
look
into
that.
A
But
if
there's
sort
of
a
desire
for
some
options
and
flexibility,
then
maybe
that's
something
that
we
consider
I.
Think
that
if
we
had
tables
there
they
would
typically
be.
You
know,
mounted
surface
mounted
so
that
they
don't
get
tipped
or
moved.
But
I
think
that's
a
good,
a
good
point
or
a
good
thought
to
consider.
A
A
You
know
replacing
what's
out
there
now,
but
with
a
improved
shock
pad
so
I
think
that
it'll
be
a
much
better
surface
a
much
safer
surface,
but
really
knowing
that
a
natural
turf
field
is
just
really
reduces
the
amount
of
use
that
it
can
handle.
It's
something
that
we're
just
trying
to
avoid
here,
because
it
would
unfortunately
probably
turn
into
a
dirt
patch
and
it's
a
popular
feel
that
gets
you
know
it's
programmed
heavily
and
used
quite
a
lot.
A
So
that's
really
something
that
I
I
mean
there's
pros
and
cons
to
both
approach
but
approach
each
approach.
But
it's
really
just
kind
of
what
our
limitation
is:
maintenance,
wise
that
really
pushes
us
towards
towards
the
synthetic
and
also
just
allowing
for
a
greater
greater
use
of
the
field.
No
matter
what
the
weather,
you
know
really
with
the
natural
Turf
in
a
in
Rain
conditions,
it
can't
be
used
so
we're
just
really
trying
to
make
sure
that
it's
serving
the
large
number
of
people
that
are
depending
on
it
as
a
play.
Space.
A
And
the
concerns
about
Synthetic
Turf
I
mean
we
do
we
do
specify
something.
That's
for
the
infill
is
a
you
know,
virgin
material
I.
Think
at
one
point
there
was
use
of
like
recycled
tires,
which
I
think
had
health
implications,
so
we're
not
using
that
you
know
testing
around
pfas,
so
at
least
Within
a
certain
you
know,
I
guess
range
of
chemicals.
It's
it's
proven
to
be
free
of
those.
Given
the
testing.
That's
done.
B
A
A
Dog
waste
bags
I
mean,
maybe
that's.
We
can
consider
that
I
think
it
might
be
something
that
gets
concentrated
around
the
perimeter
because
they
don't
well
like
for
the
playground.
Example,
for
example,
that's
really
not
an
area
where
dogs
are
intended
to
go,
but
we
can.
We
can
look
at
that
and
think
about
where,
where
those,
maybe
those
dog
walking
areas,
are
most
concentrated.
B
G
H
And
I
think
Allison.
It
will
weigh
in
as
well
as
well
I
I
think
the
problem
is,
is
that
with
the
Frederick
you
know,
behind
the
little
Freddie
school
is
even
though
there's
science
asking
people
not
to
to
walk
their
dogs,
people
still
walk
their
dogs,
and
then
the
dog
waste
ends
up
on
the
field
and
so
forth.
H
I
Yes,
thanks
Mike,
that's
what
I
meant
not
necessarily
providing
the
bags
or
anything
like
that.
There
were
a
few
quite
a
few
responsible
dog
owners,
but
then
you
know
there's
the
other
end
of
that
Spectrum,
so
just
having
places
where
they
could
drop
the
dog
waste
rather
than
carry
it
around
I
think
that
might
be
that
might
assist
in
them
getting
in
the
habit.
Those
who
do
not
to
drop
them
in.
B
I
I
The
there's
a
little
parkour
feature
at
the
current
playground
there
on
Magnolia.
My
grandson
really
enjoys
so
I'm
just
getting
it
all
in
sorry,
if
somebody
already
mentioned
it
in
the
chat
or
in
previous
meetings,
but
just
incorporating
some
of
those
nice
elements
there
as
well.
I
didn't
see
it
in
some
of
the
suggestions
in
that
that
slide
you
had,
but
maybe
keeping
some
of
those
parkour
type
that
did
like
these
yellow,
there's
three
yellow
swing,
type,
Circle
things
that
they
can
skip
with
their
arms.
G
H
One
thing
and
we
should
ask
Mr
Knight
if
he
has
any
more
information,
I
understand
that
Mr
and
I
have
found
some
information
that
Bill
Russell
might
had
a
connection
with
the
basketball
court.
If
there's
ways
that
we
can
find
any
sort
of
historical
references
to
any
of
the
park,
including
the
basketball
court,
it
would
be
nice
to
kind
of
include
that
so
people
kind
of
understand
the
history
of
the
park
and
and
understand
the
significance
of
of
who
some
of
the
patrons
or
some
of
the
participants
were
around
the
park.
G
G
Thank
you
down
to
Columbia
Road
and
then
we're
also
planning
on
updating
the
basketball
court,
and
there
are
a
few
trees
in
this
area
that
are
they.
They
look
almost
okay,
but
they're
actually
being
struck
by
a
pest
called
the
emerald
ash
for,
and
so
we
will
be
removing
those
trees
as
they're
likely
to
die
in
the
next
few
years
and
replacing
them
with
trees
of
diverse
species
that
have
no
known
pests.
A
E
The
question
about
cleaning
up
branches
at
the
basketball
court.
That
was
something
that
we've
heard
and
noticed
on
site
as
well
and
spoke
with
the
arborists
about
so
we'll.
We'll
keep
that
in
mind
as
we
look
at
a
final
placement
of
trees
around
the
basketball
court
and
and
also
keep
that
in
mind
with
which
species
of
trees
we
select
the
the
species.
That's
currently
there
did.
You
know.
As
Kara
mentioned,
there
was
some.
G
So
we
got
another
question
about
an
enclosed
fence
at
the
upper
playground
and,
yes,
that
one
will
have
an
enclosed
fence
with
the
gate
shown
where
the
new
entrance
is
the
lower
play
area.
We
don't
plan
on
having
a
fence,
although
we
did
hear
from
some
people
in
meeting
two
that
one
of
the
reasons
they
don't
send
their
kids
to
play.
G
There
is
because
it's
close
to
Columbia
Road
and
doesn't
have
a
fence
we're
hoping
that
by
sort
of
lifting
it
up
and
creating
those
Terraces
will
provide
a
little
bit
more
of
a
separation
from
the
road
and
also
having
the
tables
and
fitness
equipment
before
the
play
in
terms
of
between
the
road
and
the
play.
That
will
also
help
create
a
stronger
sense
of
separation.
G
We
heard
from
you
know,
people
who
are
watching
games
that
they
like
to
have
something
for
their
kids
to
do
be
able
to
be
next
to
the
field,
watching
the
game,
but
also
playing
with
their
kids.
So
that's
why
we
really
went
with
the
direction
of
this
connectivity
across
from
the
play
area
and
the
fitness
area
onto
that
slope
that
overlooks
the
field
and
putting
a
fence
around
it
around
the
whole
area
would
would
really
get
in
the
way
of
that.
G
A
Yeah
I
mean
I
think
just
that.
Maybe
that
area
is
we're
still
sort
of
thinking
about
it
too,
and
how
the
different
kind
of
programmatic
elements
work
together
and
I.
Think
that's
something
that
you
know
we
could
think
about
thinking
about
safety,
but
also
what
sort
of
makes
sense
in
circulation
wise.
G
A
A
If
it's
close
to
what
we,
you
know
what
we
estimated,
but
a
lot
of
these
numbers
are
fluctuating,
so
it's
sometimes
hard
to
tell,
but
you
know,
that'll
sort
of
also
Drive
what's
left
for
the
remainder
of
the
park,
but
then
the
timeline
in
here
on
the
schedule
that
you
can
see
so
we're
working
through
design
development
and
the
doc
construction
documents
into
the
fall,
and
then
the
targeted
start
for
construction
is
is
early.
So
maybe
you
know
February
depending
on
weather,
2024
I
think
maybe
fall
might
be
a
little.
A
No,
that's
not
I'm.
Looking
at
this
maybe
a
little
optimistic,
but
you
know
early
2025.
at
least
ready
for
the
2025
season.
So
that's
that's
roughly.
Where
we
are
I
mean
schedules,
you
know
will
certainly
be
continuing
to
work
on
this
I
think
there's
often
things
that
come
up
that
can
sort
of
so
things
are
derail
things
a
little
bit,
but
you
know
we
I
I
will
certainly
plan
to
keep
everyone
informed
if
things
change
or
you
know,
keep
everyone
updated
on
the
schedule.
A
A
A
A
A
We'll
say
next
week,
but
that'll
just
be
a
chance
to
look
at
the
plans
again.
You
know
if
there's
any
other
comments,
preferences
people
can
reiterate
those
there
and
then
we'll
post
this
presentation
to
the
web
page
and
also
the
video
recording.
So
you
can
look
back
at
it
and
yeah
Mike.
Thank
you
great,
so
I
think
that's
we'll!
Let
everyone
go
and
we
really
appreciate
you
attending
and
we
hope
to
talk
to
you
again
soon.