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From YouTube: Bothell City Council Meeting - October 11, 2022
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0:02:00 - Meeting Agenda Approval
0:02:10 - Public Engagement Opportunities
0:03:20 - Proclamation: Hindu American Awareness and Appreciation Month
0:11:15 - City Manager Report
0:13:50 - Council Committee Reports
0:16:15 - Visitor Comment
0:17:00 - Projected Agenda Discussion
0:17:05 - Consent Agenda
0:17:55 - Public Hearing: Public Hearing to Consider Ordinances Establishing 2023 User Rates for the Water, Sanitary Sewer, and Storm & Surface Water Utilities and Clarifying Utility Billing Processes
1:40:00 - Discussion/Update Items/Other: Consideration of ARCH’s 2023 Budget and Work Program
2:16:50 - Study Session: Board and Commission Review Results and Recommendations
3:36:10 - Council Conversations
A
A
The
city
of
Bothell
is
now
providing
the
option
of
attending
Council
meetings
remotely
or
in
Person.
Public
comment
will
be
allowed,
both
in
writing
or
verbally
verbal
comments
may
be
taken
either
in
person
or
remotely
sign
up
sheets
were
provided
online
by
the
city
clerk's
office
via
link
from
the
agenda.
A
A
call-in
number
was
provided
on
the
meeting
agenda
for
members
of
the
public
who
wish
to
call
in
by
phone
to
listen,
live
to
the
meeting.
If
you
have
called
in,
we
ask
that
you
mute
your
device
so
as
not
to
interfere
with
the
meeting
if
a
participant
fails
to
mute
their
connection
and
causes
A
disruption
to
the
meeting.
The
connection
will
be
terminated
if
this
moment
will,
at
this
point,
we'll
take
a
moment
to
take
role
of
the
council
members
by
position.
Number
please
say
here
when
the
city
clerk
calls
your
name.
C
B
A
You
next
I'd
like
to
reiterate
some
meeting
guidelines
for
all
remote
meeting
attendees.
Please
speak
clearly
and
pause,
frequently
state
your
name
each
time
before
speaking,
mute
your
microphone
when
not
speaking
for
Council
attending
remotely,
please
use
the
raise
hand
feature
in
Zoom
when
you
wish
to
speak
and
I
will
call
on
you
and
I'm
going
to
skip
the
next
two
because
we're
all
here.
A
A
A
We
also
on
Saturday,
have
the
fire
prevention
week,
open
house
and
ribbon
cutting
we're
going
to
do
an
annual
open
house
at
fire
stations,
45
and
44,
and
festivities
will
begin
with
the
fire
station
45
ribbon
cutting
happening
at
9
30
a.m.
You
can
learn
more
at
bothellwild.gov
fire
prevention
week
since
Workshop
Wednesday
October
19th
from
6
to
8
pm
septic,
a
septic
hey.
Some
of
us
just
want
to
know
why
there's
nothing
wrong
with
that.
A
A
Whereas
Hindu
American
awareness
and
appreciation
month
seeks
to
bring
local
awareness,
recognition
and
acknowledgment
of
the
significant
contributions
made
by
Hindu
Americans
across
the
United
States
and
whereas
Hindu
Americans
represent
diverse
ethnic
backgrounds,
including
individuals
of
Indian,
Pakistani,
Bangladeshi,
Malaysian,
Indonesian,
Afghani,
Nepali,
bhutanese
Sri,
Lankan,
Fijian,
Caribbean
and
European
descent,
and
whereas
our
nation
has
greatly
benefited
from
benefited
from
Hindu
Americans,
especially
through
the
vendanta
philosophy.
Are
you
Vedic,
medicine,
classical
Indian,
art,
dance,
music,
meditation,
yoga
literature
and
community
service?
A
Now,
therefore,
I
Mason
Thompson
do
hereby
Proclaim
October
is
Hindu
American
awareness
and
appreciation
month
in
the
city
of
Bothell,
to
increase
understanding
of
the
Hindu
American
community
and
celebrate
the
influence
of
the
extraordinary
extraordinary
cultural,
ethnic,
linguistic
and
religious
diversity
of
our
residents
has
on
our
city
and
I
believe
should
applaud.
You
should
have
plot.
We
should
applaud
you,
that's
how
this
should
go.
A
D
Hindu
American,
Community
I
accept
and
thank
you
mayor,
Thompson
City
councils
and
then
City
staff
for
processing
and
awarding
the
proclamation
during
the
festive
season
of
navaratri
and
Diwali.
So
very
happy
because
bottle
is
representing
a
large
amount
of
a
Hindu
community
and
in
along
around
Redmond
Bellevue
and
other
cities.
So
this
is
the
first
city
which
is
doing
the
proclamation
and
then
we're
happy
to
come,
and
you
know
appreciate
your
you
know:
plantaining
and
ensuring
the
leadership.
D
The
proclamation
sends
an
impactful
and
meaningful
message
to
the
Hindu
American
community
in
Bothell
and
nearby
cities,
and
help
educate
all
Americans
about
our
incredible
Traditions.
Over
the
last
few
years
there
has
been
a
significant
growth
of
Hindu
Americans
in
region,
and
we
have
been
contributing
to
all
aspects
of
public
life
to
our
vibrant
and
diverse
social
Fabrics.
D
It
would
bring
all
residents
immense
pride
and
gratitude
to
know
that
the
city
recognizes
the
contributions
of
Hindu
Americans.
Here
we
are
happy
to
share
that.
The
Hindu
American
community,
in
collaboration
with
various
Community
organizations
like
water
watch,
ICC,
TTA,
smm,
Sai,
Baba,
Temple
and
Hindu
temple
and
Cultural
Center
htcc
of
Bothell,
is
engaged
in
driving
a
service
initiated
called
Seva
Diwali,
a
Food
donation
campaign
during
this
festive
seasons
in
Bothell,
and
contribute
back
to
local
food
banks
and
underserved
in
our
neighborhood.
During
the
pandemic.
D
D
So
we
would
love
to
continue
our
contribution
to
the
local
community,
because
this
is
our
home
and
we
once
again,
I
would
like
to
thank
you
for
the
proclamation
and
we
look
forward
to
continued
engagement
with
City
Council
on
various
Community
Services
initiatives.
We
also
taking
a
step
forward
to
invite
you
to
come
and
attend
our
events.
You
know
the
community
have
grown
too
much.
They
were
recently.
We
have
done
a
bathukamma
flower
festival
coming
from
the
south
region
of
India.
D
A
D
A
F
That's
a
that's,
a
good
way
way
to
spend
your
Saturday.
So,
looking
forward
to
that,
the
other
thing
is
is
last
week
we
got
to
focus
on
welcoming
council
member
Dodd
to
the
to
the
city
council,
and
there
is
a
there's
a
flip
side
of
of
that,
which
is
that
it
also
creates
a
vacancy
on
the
Planning
Commission,
and
we
didn't
talk
about
that
and
I've
had
a
few
questions.
F
So
I
just
wanted
to
to
note
to
make
sure
that
everyone
in
the
community
is
aware,
and
the
council
as
well
that
the
as
defined
by
the
council
protocol
manual,
the
plan
is
that
staff
will
be
reaching
out
to
to
to
post
about
the
vacancy.
The
protocol
manual
talks
about
a
30-day
period
of
at
least
a
30-day
filing
period,
with
dates
to
be
determined
and
the
city
clerk's
office
is
working
on
that
and
we'll
we'll
have
it
out
soon.
F
The
rest
of
the
procedure
is
laid
out
in
protocol
section,
2,
8,
a
or
page
13,
which
sometimes
is
easier
to
find
too.
At
the
same
time,
there
was
actually
also
a
vacancy
on
the
Arts
commission,
and
we
knew
there
was
is
at
least
the
two-thirds
chance
that
we
might
have
a
vacancy
on
the
Planning
Commission
so
held
back
on
that.
But
so
both
of
those
positions
will
get
posted
and
the
clerk's
office
will
be
scheduling
more
information
to
bring
back
to
council.
So
you're,
aware
of
when
the
interviews
will
take
place.
F
G
Thank
you
mayor.
The
Public
Safety
Committee
of
council
met
last
week
with
Snohomish
County
Fire
District
10..
This
was
our
first
meeting
this
year
and
I
I,
don't
believe
we're
meeting
until
next
year.
But
a
couple
of
topics
that
were
discussed
were
district
10
purchased
a
brush
truck
to
assist
in
Wildfire
fighting.
So
that's
a
great
thing
and
then
we
discussed
the
open
houses
this
weekend
at
both
station
44
and
station
45.
H
G
I
I
have
several
updates
from
various
committees
I'm
on
I
think
this
is
gonna
kind
of
go.
Most
recent
to
the
Past
I
recently
attended
the
Eastside
Transportation
forum
and
we
were
treated
to
presentations
on
upcoming
updates
to
both
the
port
and
the
airport
seatac's
about
to
get
fancy
so
check
it
out
also
to
well.
I
A
All
right
moving
on
to
to
visit
a
comment.
The
city
has
accepted
visitor
comment
and
writing
as
well
as
accepted
sign
up
sheets
for
those
who
wish
to
speak
at
tonight's
meeting.
Written
comments
submitted
to
the
city
clerk
no
later
than
3
pm
today
were
forwarded
to
All
City
Council
Members
and
are
part
of
the
record
city
clerk.
Do
we
have
anybody
signed
up?
Thank.
B
You
mayor,
no,
we
did
not
have
anyone
sign
up
either
written
or
requesting
to
speak.
However,
I
do
see
a
few
members
in
the
audience
tonight
and
we
also
have
a
few
on
the
zoom
calls
so
for
those
on
Zoom.
If
there's
anyone
wishing
to
speak,
please
use
the
raise
hand
feature
and
if
there's
anyone
in
the
audience
here
in
Chambers,
if
you'd
like
to
have
your
three
minutes,
please
raise
your
hand.
A
A
H
A
Thank
you
all
right.
Moving
on
to
our
first
agenda
bill
of
the
night,
it's
agenda:
Bill
22143,
a
public
hearing
to
consider
ordinances,
establishing
2023
user
rates
for
the
water,
sanitary
sewer
and
storm
and
surface
water
utilities
and
clarifying
utility
billing
process.
I
am
going
to
open
the
public
hearing
and
turn
it
over
to
city
manager,
standard.
F
Thank
you
mayor
and,
if
you
hadn't
noticed
we're
starting
to
see
a
theme
emerge,
it
is
budget
season
and
so
we've.
The
last
few
meetings
we've
had
some
items
that
are
coming
as
a
precursor
to
next
week,
as
well
as
when
we
really
start
digging
into
the
preliminary
budget
that
I'll
be
bringing
forward.
And
so
while
we
we've
covered
cfp
tonight
is
an
opportunity
to
learn
a
little
bit
about
more
about
utility
rates
and
the
assumptions
there
and
then
also
hold
the
public
hearing.
F
Just
for
for
clarity,
council
is
not
being
asked
to
approve
tonight,
that'll
be
coming
back
in
November,
but
tonight
is
a
evening
for
information
and
again
to
hear
from
anyone
in
the
community
who
wishes
to
speak
with
that.
I
am
going
to
turn
things
over
to
Boyd
Benson,
our
Public
Works
utility
and
development
services
manager
to
guide
you
through
the
process.
K
L
Yeah
I
work
at
FCS
group
we're
a
local
Redmond
Washington
based
consulting
company.
We
help
cities
and
counties
in
particular,
specifically
in
the
Northwest,
with
water
sewer,
storm
water
type,
utility
rate
studies
and
so
for
the
information
you're.
Looking
at
tonight,
we
helped
City
staff
by
providing
you
know
a
second
set
of
eyes
and
input
based
on
other
rate,
studies
that
we're
doing
concurrently
with
other
clients
of
ours.
K
Thank
you,
so
just
a
quick
overview
of
the
utilities,
the
utilities
are
Enterprise
funds.
That
means
that
revenue
and
expense
from
and
into
and
out
of
the
utilities
are
for
utility
work.
Only
there
are
some
transfers
to
the
general
fund
to
support
with
respect
to
utility
excise
tax
and
the
rest.
We
look
at
short
and
long-term
rate
forecasts
and
fund
forecasts,
both
expense
and
revenue.
K
So
what
you
see
before
you
tonight
staff's
recommending
a
six
percent
increase
for
the
water
utility,
a
2.5
percent
increase
for
the
sewer
utility
and
a
six
percent
increase
for
the
storm
service.
Water
utility
we'll
go
through
a
little
bit
on
some
some
right
background
and
then
look
at
each
utility.
K
K
Major
in
factors
influencing
the
utility
rates
right
now
is
once
again,
I
mentioned
the
capital
facilities
plan
for
the
previous
Capital
facilities
plan.
It
was
developed
during
the
the
peak
of
the
covid-19
pandemic,
where
revenues
were
very
uncertain,
where
a
lot
of
things
were
uncertain,
so
many
projects
were
deferred.
We
didn't
delete
projects,
we
just
pushed
them
out
farther
in
the
forecast
and
just
once
again,
because
we
weren't
sure
about
the
amount
of
Revenue
and
how
much
work
we
could
do.
K
The
current
2023-2029
capital
facilities
plan
is
is
full
implementation
of
the
cfp
to
make
sure
we
can
do
the
projects
to
keep
our
utilities.
Strong.
A
brief
comment
on
the
covid-19
pandemic.
We
saw
some
pretty
significant
changes
in
usage
during
the
peak
of
the
pandemic,
with
with
more
residential
use
and
relatively
less
commercial
use.
The
the
total
revenue
wasn't
that
off
we've
seen
a
return
to
near
pre-pandemic
times
with
respect
to
revenue
and
usage,
we're
still
saying
little
bit
higher
and
we
expect
to
see
higher
residential
use
with
the
increase
in
the
telecommuting
inflation.
K
It's
a
major
factor
with
respect
to
the
budgets.
This
is
both
the
increased
cost
to
do
projects
Staffing
and
the
rest,
and
that
that
goes
throughout
the
budgets
and
the
9.5
percent.
Cpi
is
a
major
factor
and
then
wastewater
treatment
and
water
purchase.
Wastewater
treatment
rates.
You'll
see
are
increasing
significantly.
When
these
are
the
rates
we
have
to
pay
to
King
County.
L
L
In
addition
to
those
other
items
we
mentioned,
the
other
big
one
is
capital
costs,
and
while
your
operating
costs
typically
are
more
steady
year
to
year,
based
on
an
adopted
budget,
you
can
apply
cost
escalation.
I
have
a
pretty
good
idea
of
what
those
are.
The
capital
projects
and
the
expenditures
related
to
those
can
really
vary
year
to
year,
depending
on
how
many
projects
you're
taking
on
how
big
those
projects
are,
and
so
it's
a
little
bit
harder
to
forecast
those
you
know.
Do
you
save
up
in
advance?
Do
you
borrow?
L
So
it's
really
a
balance
of
you
know
what
revenue
or
resources
do
you
have
in?
What
are
you
spending
that
on
and
as
Boyd
mentioned,
you
know
we
look
at
both
the
the
near
term,
the
biennium
budget,
but
also
we
look
at
a
longer
time
period
to
line
up
with
the
capital
facilities
plan
over
seven
years.
So,
while
you
might
set
rates
one
year
at
a
time
at
least
that's
historically
been
the
practice
over
the
past
few
years.
For
the
city
we
like
to
look
at
six
seven
years
at
a
time
to
see.
L
Are
there
larger
projects
on
the
horizon?
Are
there
trends
that
we
can
pick
up
that
are
beyond
that
two-year
budget
cycle
that
might
inform
this
year's
rates
to
help
particular
funds
say
stay
in
the
positive
over
a
six
or
seven
year,
time
period
and
an
example
that
might
help
illustrate
this?
Is
you
know
if
you
own
a
home,
there's
a
lot
of
maintenance
type
activities
that
you
some
are
some
are
easier
and
less
expensive.
L
You
might
have
a
leak,
a
leaky,
faucet
change,
light
bulbs,
occasional
painting,
some
are
more
major
and
further
apart
furnace
replacement,
replacing
the
roof
and
the
key
thing
there
with
those
bigger
ticket
items
that
are
you
want
to
avoid
surprises
emergency
projects.
It
can
be
a
lot
more
costly
to
say,
replace
a
furnace
on
the
weekend
when
you
have
to
call
somebody
to
you
know,
pay
overtime,
those
sorts
of
things,
so
utilities
are
no
different.
L
There
are
some
easier,
less
expensive
items
that
you
can
do
to
kind
of
keep
things
working
well,
but
there
are
some
bigger
projects
that
you
need
to
plan
for
in
advance,
so
you
can
proactively
repair
and
replace
those
items
versus
reactively
respond
to
emergencies,
which
can
be
problematic
in
terms
of
Public,
Safety,
more
costly
to
rape,
payers
Etc.
So
that's
kind
of
the
balance
of
the
short
and
long-term
aspect
of
utility
rate
planning.
K
Thank
you
before
you
you'll
see
a
slide.
That
is
very
detailed.
Typically,
we
don't
share
these
slides,
but
I
really
want
to
try
to
explain
the
components
of
how
we
look
at
fund
balances
when
we
get
to
each
utility.
There'll
be
a
simple
pie
chart
not
because
it
needs
to
be
simple,
but
when
I
look
at
these
numbers,
I
can
I
can
see
how
these
would
just
be
a
lot
of
numbers.
So
I'd
like
to
look
at
this
is
the
water
fund.
K
You
know
one
thing
I'd
like
to
mention
is
this:
this
fund
balance
sheet
here
has
many
many
rows
and
many
columns
that
are
hidden.
It's
a
dynamic
document
you
can
see
in
that
second
column.
It
says
year
to
date,
831.
So
we're
constantly
updating
our
Revenue,
our
expenses,
how
much
projects
are
costing,
and
we
also
look
at-
let's
say
the
fourth
column,
I
guess
fifth
column
2022
estimated
year
end,
so
we're
always
estimating
we're
going
to
be
at
the
end.
So
I
have
a
good
Baseline
for
the
future.
K
So
the
major
components
of
this
I'm
going
to
go
to
the
orange
circled,
it's
below
the
red.
It
looks
kind
of
orange
to
me:
is
the
beginning
fund
balance
and
that's
actually
what
you
have
in
the
bank
from
the
previous
year.
So
you'll
see
it.
It
looks
like
a
pretty
big
number,
let's
say
for
2023
it's
4.4
million
dollars,
but
of
that
beginning
fund
balance,
we
have
restricted
items
and
those
are
circled
in
red.
That's
for
Debt
Service
pay
our
loans,
it's
for
the
pension
contribution,
Capital
emergency
Reserve.
K
We
have
to
set
aside-
and
this
is
all
per
the
municipal
code
and
our
financial
policies.
We
have
to
set
aside
two
two
percent
of
the
total
value
of
our
system
every
year
in
case
a
major
component
fails.
So
we
have
the
funds
available
to
do
that:
Capital,
emergency,
that's
capital,
emergency,
Reserve,
operator
and
reserve
for
the
water
and
sewer.
We
have
to
set
aside
60
days
where,
if
we
don't
have
Revenue,
we
have
funds
to
to
continue
operating
as
a
utility.
It's
120
days
for
the
storm
and
then
the
capital
reserve.
K
That's
the
reserve
that
if
one
of
the
capital
projects
has
increased
costs,
we
can
we
can
pay
that.
So
these
are
all
restricted
funds.
We
can't
touch
they're
just
there
for
an
emergency,
and
then
we
look
at
the
unrestricted
balance
in
green
and
that's
that's
really.
What
we
can
work
with
all
the
rest
are
just
kind
of
fixed
there
and
you
can
see
in
2023
we
have
a
pretty
good.
Looking
beginning
unrestricted,
beginning
fund
balance
of
2.5
million.
We
forecast
this
out
and
you'll
start
seeing
some
red
numbers.
K
The
red
numbers
aren't
allowed
they're,
definitely
not
allowed
in
the
biennium.
It's
fine
to
see
them
in
the
future,
because
we
can
address
those
issues
we
can
address
them
by
looking
for
Grants
or
loans
or
other
sources
of
revenue,
other
cost-saving
activities,
but
also
by
rate
increases.
So
when
you
see
these
numbers,
remember
one
they're
fluid
and
to
their
planning
level
numbers
for
the
2025
and
Beyond
a
couple.
K
Other
you'll
see
I
circled
something
in
purple
on
the
bottom
right
and
that's
a
that's
something
that
people
should
see
and
say
holy
smokes
four
million
dollars
of
of
negative
on
the
ending
fund
balance.
What
we
do
in
public
works
is
we
try
to
position
ourselves
for
success,
and
that
means
we're
doing
project
design
and
permitting
early,
so
we're
eligible
for
Grants,
and
then
we
show
the
construction
costs
on
our
cfp.
K
We
can't
afford
that
construction
in
the
future,
but
by
having
that
project
on
the
plan
we're
eligible
to
go
for
Grants,
so
what
you'll
typically
see
in
Steve
Moore
cow
is
much
more
eloquent
than
I
am
on.
This
is,
is
we
get
ourselves
situated?
We
understand
the
costs
we
get
the
design
going,
we
get
the
permit
going
and
we
score
very
well
on
grants.
So
you'll
see
this
in
each
of
the
utilities.
Is
we're
positioning
ourselves
for
that?
A
couple
other
particulars
on
this
you'll
see
up
near
the
top.
K
We
have
Seattle
public
utility
rates,
like
I
said
for
2023
at
zero.
We
don't
know
what
2024
is
so.
We
can
certainly
estimate
two
percent
City
CPI.
We
show
the
9.5
with
the
three
from
finance
and
then
we've
we've
assumed
some
numbers
there,
someone
they
say,
they're
low,
someone
may
say
they're
high,
but
they're
just
placeholders,
and
once
again
these
are
outside
of
the
two-year
Binion
and
you'll
see
the
city
rate
increase.
We
do
our
best
to
keep
rate
increases
low.
K
The
utilities
work
diligently
to
give
good
service
meet
right
regulations
and
keep
rates
low,
but
you'll
see
on
this
you'll
see
some
some
numbers:
five
six
percent.
This
is
directly
out
of
our
water
system
plan.
When
we
had
our
water
system
plan
consultant,
look
at
our
long
range
forecast
for
the
water
utility.
It's
like
hey,
you
folks,
are
to
get
these
projects
done,
you're
expending
more
than
you
have
for
Revenue.
There
are
things
we
can
do
once
again.
This
is
a
council
decision.
Every
year
these
numbers
are
looked
at
every
year.
K
Things
can
move
around
so
I,
just
kind
of
wanted
to
give
you
an
overview
on
that
and
with
that
said,
I'd
like
to
get
to
the
first
utility
and
once
again,
you'll
see
pie
charts
for
each
of
these,
so
our
water
utility
we're
to
provide
clean
water,
it
the
sufficient
pressure
and
flow
to
satisfy
requirements,
and
these
are
both
level
service
requirements
from
our
the
folks
we
serve
and
also
regulatory
requirements.
It
could
be
fire
flow.
Other
things
like
that,
the
city
of
Bothell
water
utility
serves
generally
the
South
half
of
the
city.
K
The
north
half
of
the
city
is
generally
served
by
Alderwood
and
its
day-to-day
operation
of
I
put
some
stats
down
there
about
80
miles
of
water
main
over
a
thousand
hydrants.
So
it's
all
these
things
that
are
happening
every
day.
Some
of
the
major
drivers
for
rate
considerations
for
the
water
utility
are
it's
not
water
purchase
increase
because
it's
zero,
the
Consumer
Price
Index
increase
of
9.5
percent
is
is
high
and
that
impacts
our
Construction
costs
impacts
our
staffing
costs.
It
impacts
a
lot
of
things
and
the
key
for
us
is
our
decreasing
fund
balance.
K
If,
if
we
look
at
this
as
as
home
finances,
we
don't
want
to
go
negative,
we
don't
want
to
lose
our
home,
that's
not
the
case
with
the
utility,
but
we
don't
want
to
see
those
numbers
so
right
now
we're
recommending
a
rate
increase
of
six
percent.
It's
less
than
nine
for
five
nine
point:
five
percent,
which
is
good,
but
it's
still
relatively
High
number,
in
my
opinion.
K
So
here
are
these
pie
charts
once
again.
There's
a
lot
of
information
here,
but
I'd
just
like
to
walk
you
through
it,
because
I
think
this
is
this
really
tells
a
story?
If
you
go
to
your
left
hand,
pie,
chart,
you'll,
see
the
fund
balance
and
you'll
see
the
restricted
funds,
the
capital
reserve,
operating
Reserve,
Debt,
Service
and
then
you'll
see
that
unrestricted.
This
is
a
seven
year
average.
Each
of
these
plots
is
a
seven
year
average.
That's
a
really
low
number
and
it's
low,
because
we
go
negative
and
that's
something.
K
We
need
to
look
at
Revenue
the
majority
of
our
revenues
from
user
fees,
and
then
we
have
a
good
amount
from
facility
charges.
So
when
you
see
that
411
first
facility
charges
we're
much
higher
than
that
in
2022,
because
the
the
amazing
amount
of
development
activity
we
have
now,
but
we
really
want
to
forecast
that
out
conservatively
and
then
grants
and
loans
and
expenditures
you
can
see
the
majority
of
our
expenditures
are
the
green
pie,
the
capital
projects,
and
then
it's
water,
purchase,
salary
and
benefits.
That's
that's
self-explanatory
supplies
and
services.
K
That's
all
the
things
we
need
to
get
done
to
actually
run
the
utility
that
aren't
Staffing
and
then
there's
also
a
major
component
of
the
inner
fund
transfers.
So
you'll
see
inner
fund
services
and
utility
and
excise
tax,
the
utility
tax
and
the
inner
fund
services
on
the
order
of
1.8
million
dollars.
So
that's
Revenue.
That's
that's
being
used
to
offset
being
used
to
pay
for
services
and
pay
their
fair
share
within
the
general
fund.
K
This
is
a
a
real
broad
comparison
to
our
neighbors
and
we'll
have
a
better
one
in
a
second.
But
these
are
the
25,
spu,
purveyors
and
I'm.
Really
sorry,
there's
small
numbers
you'll
get
a
better
comparison
on
the
next
slide.
When
we
looked
at
this
in
27,
2018
Bothell
was
fifth
or
sixth
lowest
rate
for
all
25
purveyors.
That's
a
really
good
thing.
K
We
have
low
rates,
but
it
also
indicates
maybe
something
else
were
we
collecting
enough
Revenue
to
do
our
work,
and
the
answer
is
based
on
our
long-term
forecast
at
the
time.
The
answer
was
no
we're
going
in
the
red,
so
we've
steadily
seen
rate
increases
over
time,
we're
now
up
to
the
lower
middle,
which
is
good,
we're
very
competitive
with
our
neighbors
and
we're
we're
getting
things
done.
I
wanted
to
just
show
a
few
things
that
we
do
what
you
see
in
that
the
photo
in
the
upper
right.
K
That's
what
a
modern
water
main
looks
like
you'll
notice
that
it's
ducked
a
liar,
it's
it's
mortar,
lined
it's
going
to
last
50
years,
more,
like
100,
plus
and
then
you'll
see
the
fittings
they're
all
bolted,
they're
all
restrained
for
seismic
resiliency
they're,
all
coated
they're
good
things.
I
really
wanted
to
show
you
a
piece
of
asbestos
cement
water
pipe.
Unfortunately,
if
you
see
that
pipe
you
just
react
and
I
couldn't
find
a
good
photo
unless
it
was
a
stock
photo.
K
K
These
are
winner
rates
and
you'll,
see
we
we're
in
there
we're
definitely
not
the
highest
we're
kind
of
right
in
the
middle
middle
lower,
which
is
good,
so
we're
providing
good
service
at
a
good
rate.
You
just
the
city
council,
just
approved
meter
replacement.
This
is
really
important.
These
are
the
type
of
things
you'll
see
when
meters
start
to
fail.
They
read
less
there's
actual
requirements
to
replace
these,
but
one
you
also
want
to
make
sure
that
you're
billing
for
the
water
used.
K
So
this
is
a
badger
meter,
you'll
see
a
brass
casing
inside
the
casing:
there's
a
rotating
disc
and
when
that
disc
rotates
it's
a
certain
volume
of
water.
So
it's
a
very
simple
device
and
that's
it
for
water
I'd
like
to
just
kind
of
March
through
these.
If
that's:
okay,
okay,
cool
the
zero
utility,
safe,
reliable
sewer,
Department
of
Health
regulations
and
conveyance
to
King
County
Wastewater
treatment.
We
have
about
70
miles
Maine
forward,
lift
stations.
K
K
The
rate
increases
you're
going
to
see.
County
are
significant,
they're
5.75
percent
through
2028,
and
then
they
jump
to
8.75
percent
through
the
rest
of
the
the
2020s
to
2030
and
that's
a
that's
an
aggregate
increase
by
2030
of
85.
So
you're
going
to
see
most
every
jurisdiction
respond
to
this
and
you'll
see
six
percent
increases
from
jurisdictions
to
to
be
able
to
pay
for
that
treatment
cost
that's
a
hard
cost.
K
We
typically
don't
want
to
see
Zero
and
then
ten
at
zero
ten
zero.
Ten.
We
really
look
at
this
long
range
because
that's
a
burden
on
everyone,
so
for
the
utility
overview
with
respect
to
the
fund
balance
you'll
see
that
very
healthy.
Seven
year,
average,
five
and
a
half
million
unrestricted
beginning
fund
balance
we're
very
pleased
for
that,
because
that
85
percent
increase
in
wastewater
treatment
rates
with
King
County.
That's
to
prepare
for
the
planning
for
some
upcoming
regulations
that
doesn't
include
the
cost
to
implement
those
regulations
so
we're
fully
anticipating
in
the
2030s.
K
You
see
some
very
significant
increases
in
wastewater
treatment,
I
believe
they
have
to
do
some
serious,
retrofits
or
or
potentially
in
construct
a
new
treatment
plan
so
and
then
you'll
see
the
those
same,
restricted
funds
rate
revenue
is
the
major
component
of
our
Revenue
with
facility
charges
and
grants
and
Loans,
and
then
the
expenses
you'll
see
treatment
is
a
huge
amount.
We
pay
a
lot
of
our
Revenue
to
treatment
and
that's
just
a
fixed
cost.
K
K
Once
again,
we've
had
questions
about
what
are
these
funds
used
for
so
I'm
sorry,
I
included
a
picture
of
a
pipe
because
someone
said
something
a
last
meeting,
but
the
top
pipe
is
a
five-year-old
PVC
main
it'll
last
for
a
good
50
years,
and
look
like
that
for
the
entire
time,
the
middle
image
is
concrete,
pipe
and
that's
present
within
us,
a
portion
of
the
city
and
that's,
what's
in
the
Valhalla
neighborhood
that
we're
addressing.
When
you
look
at
this,
it's
not
the
offset
or
even
the
roots
that
bother
me.
K
Those
roots
have
to
be
cut
out.
It's
a
fact
that
it
it's
not
connected
and
what
that
means
is.
Groundwater
gets
into
these
pipes
that
gets
conveyed
to
King
County.
They
have
to
treat
more
and
there
is
a
trend
in
we're
already
hearing
kind
of
the
Forefront
of
that
is
I
and
I.
It
will
be
something
that
is
going
to
be
looked
at
very
closely
by
King
County,
because
if
they
can
reduce
ini,
they
can
reduce
the
potential
impacts
to
or
extra
effluent
and
flow
through
their
treatment
plants.
K
So
we're
looking
at
these
hard
and
then
the
bottom
image.
It's
not
the
same
pipe.
Obviously,
there's
no
offset,
but
that's
three
foot
concrete
pipe
ungasketed
segments
that
have
been
lined
with
cure
in
place
pipe,
so
the
bottom
pipe
works
just
as
well
as
a
top
pipe.
It's
it's
an
old.
You
know
30
40
year
old
pipe
and
it's
been
retrofitted
at
a
cost.
That's
about
a
quarter
of
what
open
cut
trenching
would
be
storm
and
surface
water
utility.
This
is
the
entire
city
limits
it.
K
This
pays
for
all
the
comprehensive
planning
the
operation
or
compliance
with
the
National
Police
discharge,
elimination,
system
requirements
which
are
constantly
getting
more
strict
and
then
lots
of
pipes
and
catch
basins
and-
and
the
catch
Basin
number
here
is-
is
interesting.
It's
it's
8
500
catch
basins.
We
have
to
inspect
and
or
clean
95
percent
of
those
annually.
It's
actually
a
routine
Circus
Circus.
So
it's
half
every
year
to
comply
with
our
permit.
So
it's
a
significant
amount
of
work.
K
Consumer
Price
Index
is
the
major
driver,
along
with
a
decreasing
fund
balance
in
2026
and
we're
recommending
a
six
percent
increase
and
then,
once
again,
these
diagrams
you'll
see
the
unrestricted
beginning.
Fund
balance
is
a
much
smaller
proportion
of
the
fund
balance
and
that's
once
again
because
we're
seeing
those
lower
numbers
in
our
savings
account
user
fees
or
account
for
the
majority
and
then
you'll
see
that
we
do
have
some
significant
capital
projects,
and
these
are
everything
from
pipe
replacement
and
improvements
of
stormwater
facilities.
K
One
of
the
new
drivers
is
fish,
Culvert,
Department
of
ecology
and
others.
They
they've
mapped
where
fish
barriers
are,
and
so
we're
actively
looking
where
we
can
address
those
issues
and-
and
you
presented
some
of
that
information
within
the
capital
facilities
plan
selling
benefits
we've
pretty
good
amount
of
staff.
Bothell
is
one
of
the
leaders,
in
my
opinion,
in
stormwater
management,
with
respect
to
the
npds
permit,
and
then
you'll
see
the
same
inner
fund
services
and
utility
excise
tax.
L
Yes,
we
looked
at
quite
a
few
different
cities
in
the
region
and
mapped
out
their
their
storm
water
rates.
You
can
see
Bothell
on
the
lower
to
middle
end
there
about
17
per
month
this
year,
with
that
60
rate
increase
that
Boyd
mentioned
that'd
be
up
to
17.70
per
month
next
year,
although
unlike
Water
and
Sewer,
which
are
built
by
the
city,
storm
water
is
built
on
the
annual
property
tax
statements
by
King
and
Snohomish
County.
So
customers
will
see
this
charge
in
a
different
place
in
their
water
consumer
charges.
L
K
Thank
you
and
then
images
on
the
right.
Once
again,
some
Innovation
the
city
purchased
a
device
I
believe
this
year
for
staff
to
actually
install
cure
in
place
patches.
So
this
is
actually
the
same
pipe.
It's
not
the
exact
same
segment,
but
you
can
see
the
offset
further
down
and
you'll
see
an
offset
and
leakage
and
what
that
means
is
typically
Roots
will
invade.
So
this
has
been
cleaned
the
roots
cut,
and
then
they
have
a
device.
K
K
Okay,
so
those
are
the
rates
for
the
municipal
code
updates.
We
have
some
minor
housekeeping
issues.
We
try
to
look
at
Title
18
whenever
we
look
at
rates
and
we've
had
a
few
brought
forward
for
consideration.
One
is
leak
adjustment
for
water
billing.
If
someone
has
a
catastrophic
failure
in
their
Plumbing
we're
talking
pipes
free
using
the
and
the
crawl
space,
floods
or
or
pipes
in
the
ceiling
fail
or
this
or
that
fails,
and
they
lose
a
large
amount
of
water.
K
If
they're
able
to
show
you
know
the
dates,
this
happened
and
that
they
paid
a
plumber
to
come
in
with
receipts
and
fix
it
as
quickly
as
they
could,
the
city
reimburses
some
of
those
funds.
What
we've
seen
is
that
same
approach
has
been
used
for
irrigation.
Typically,
irrigation
leaks
are
maintenance
issues.
Someone
runs
over
a
irrigation
head
of
the
mower.
K
Irrigation
is
not
Health
like
safety,
we
need
it
for
service,
and
if
people
pay
attention
to
irrigation,
they
should
be
able
to
manage
their
their
usage,
any
impacts
if
they're,
maintaining
correctly
and
the
biggest
one.
Is
it's
really
hard
to
quantify
leaks
for
irrigation
because
the
water
is
going
to
the
same
spot?
It's
still
doing
the
irrigation
work,
so
we're
recommending
that
the
irrigation
leak
adjustment
be
removed.
The
other
one
is
repeat
incidents.
The
goal
of
this
program
is
to
provide
I'm
just
a
safety
net.
K
Basically,
if
someone
has
a
Major
Impact
to
their
home
and
and
they're
already
paying
for
the
restoration
there's
an
adjustment
for
the
water
loss.
With
that
said,
the
expectation
is
you're
going
to
take
care
of
the
issue
you're
going
to
address
other
issues,
and
this
shouldn't
happen
again,
so
we're
recommending
that
it's
restricted
to
one
occurrence
every
three
years,
just
so
that
we
can
really
make
sure
that
that
that
program
can
and
once
again
this
is
offset
by
other
Revenue
within
the
utilities.
K
We
want
to
make
sure
it's
more
Equitable
and,
and
then
the
winner
averaging
time
period
for
sewer
billing.
Your
sewer
bills
within
the
city's
utility
area
are
based
on
your
water
usage
during
the
winter
time
period.
The
reason
they're
based
on
water
usage
during
the
winter
time
period,
is
it.
It
takes
away
the
summer
uses
like
filling
a
a
pool
for
your
children
in
the
yard
or
or
sprinkling
the
lawn.
K
So
it's
really
looking
about
what
goes
down
the
drain
and
we
base
that
on
the
winter
average,
currently
that
winter
average
time
period
is
November
through
June
we're
seeing
a
lot
more
outdoor
use
and
with
respect
to
with
our
summers
in
the
May
June
time
period,
because
that's
when
people
are
starting
to
Garden,
so
we've
been
asked
and
we've
looked
at.
Should
we
reduce
that
instead
of
that
eight
month
period,
November
to
June
before
billing,
Cycles
go
from
November
to
April
three
billing
Cycles
six
months,
and
it
actually
is
more
Equitable.
K
It
really
is
based
on
your
sewer
usage
and
it
has
a
very
minimal
impact
to
sewer
Revenue
so
recommending
going
to
the
the
more
representative
shorter
winter
average
time
period.
The
next
one
is
consistency
in
Billing
units.
Our
code
always
evolves.
We
have
different
definitions,
we
write
out
100
cubic
feet
and
sometimes
we
use
CCF
the
abbreviation
for
cubic
feet
and
so
we'd
like
to
make
that
all
consistent
using
CCF.
And
that's
that's
how
we
build
that's,
how
it's
on
our
website.
K
K
Well,
we
don't
charge
per
month,
and
so
we're
saying
instead
of
the
first
two
two
two
ccfs
per
month,
it's
four
ccfs
for
the
two-month
biennial
or
the
bi-monthly
period,
so
it
doesn't
make
an
impact
on
rates
or
usage
it
just
it's
clean
and
it's
more
consistent
with
our
Utility
Billing
System
and
how
we
build
the
last
one
is
I.
Just
wanted
to.
Let
you
know
is
the
the
code
is
always
being
looked
at,
so
we're
looking
at
Future
updates
in
2023,
recommending
a
full
rate
study.
We've
been
having
this
on
the
back
burner.
L
Yeah,
just
as
as
one
example,
a
lot
of
the
items
that
we've
been
talking
about
here
tonight
and
Boyd's
been
discussing
for
the
different
utilities
is
how
much
revenue
do
we
need
coming
in
the
door
to
cover
our
operating
and
capital
expenditures,
and
we
typically
think
about
that.
As
you
know,
how
big
does
the
pie
need
to
be
to
make
sure
your
utilities
are
functioning
in
a
fiscally
sustainable
way?
One
of
the
items
we
might
look
at
in
a
full
rate
study
is:
are
your
customer
classes?
L
You
know
paying
their
fair
share,
so
if
how
much
revenue
is
coming
in
the
door
is
how
big
does
that
pie
need
to
be
a
more
in-depth
rate?
Study
might
look
at?
How
do
we
slice
that
up-
and
you
know-
is
single
family
being
subsidized
by
multi-family
or
vice
versa,
and
given
the
significant
amount
of
growth
in
the
city
over
the
past
five
or
ten
years,
it
could
be
a
good
time
to
look
at
your
current
rates.
L
K
Thank
you
and
to
add
to
that
staff
and
yeah
staff
is
already
looking
at
Equity,
with
respect
to
missing
middle
housing,
we're
working
with
Community
Development
Department
and
how
rates
apply
to
that
adus
and
the
rest
so
we're
starting
to
set
the
stage
to
understand
how
this
works
and
the
only
way
to
actually
Implement.
Let's
say
you
have
a
separate
billing
class
for
adus
or
missing
middle
because
currently
we're
set
up.
K
It's
a
three-quarter
inch
meter
you're
going
to
pay
the
same
rates
as
the
three-quarter
inch
meter
for
an
Adu,
as
you
would
for
the
full-size
house.
That's
how
it's
set
up.
They'll
use
less
consumption,
but
the
base
rate's
the
same
so
we're
already
having
those
internal
discussions
and
when
we
look
at
the
pull
rate
study,
can
we
break
out
those
customer
classes
a
bit
more
carefully.
K
So
we
truly
understand
the
impact
from
an
Adu
or
missing
metal
housing
which
may
most
likely
be
less
than
a
full
single
family
residential
unit,
and
it's
very
interesting
King
County
Wastewater
Treatment
divisions
already
done
this
work.
It
was
actually
fcsg.
They
did
the
work
for
them,
but
they've
already
broken
out
on
their
facility
charges.
It's
not
you're
a
single
family
home
you're,
going
to
pay
one
facility
charge,
you're,
a
single
family
home.
That's
the
size,
you're
going
to
pay
1.19
you're
an
average.
K
It's
1.0
you're,
a
small
single
family,
residential
multi-family
at
0.79
and
you're,
an
Adu
and
you're
0.59.
It's
a
lot
of
the
heavy
lifting's
been
been
completed,
but
before
any
of
those
type
of
rates
are
looked
at
more
closely
or
implemented,
it's
typically
good
to
look
the
utilities
of
the
whole,
because
if
you
take
away
Revenue
at
one
point,
you
have
to
make
sure
you
address
it
in
the
other
and
I
think
that's
it.
This
is
pretty
much
the
summer.
We
have
two
slides
that
show
comparisons
from
the
current
rates
and
the
future
rates.
K
Once
again,
our
goal
is
to
provide
good
utility
service,
Safe,
Water,
good
treatment
for
Wastewater
and
adequate
treatment,
adequate
management
of
storm
water
it.
This
is
a
hard
discussion,
no
one
likes
to
see
rates
increase,
but
we
presented
the
information
as
best
as
we
could
to
demonstrate
that
we
think
these
are
the
the
rate
increases
that
that
would
help
continue
to
fund
the
utility,
as
currently
required,
with
respect
to
projects
and
level
of
service.
K
What
else
can
I
say?
You'll
you'll
see
the
comparison
here.
We've
updated
these.
The
previous,
when
you
saw
these
last
years,
I
think
are
our
use
of
was
11
CCF
for
average
two-month
period
in
the
winter.
It's
now
12.
I
don't
know
if
that's
anything
to
do
with
covet
or
stay
at
home,
but
that's
what
we
used
and
you'll
see
the
increases.
K
It's
very
hard
to
compare
those
because
a
multi-family
unit
could
have
a
duplex
with
two
and
that's
what
we've
shown
it
could
have
four
units
and
and
different
meter
sizes
in
the
rest,
but
yeah
it's
it's
the
same
six
percent,
but
in
this
case
total
per
years
39
for
a
duplex
and
that's
you
know
it's
one
bill
split
in
two
and
then
for
a
major
entertainment,
complex
with
much
much
much
more
usage.
You'll
see
these
are
Big
Numbers.
It
is.
It
is
an
increase.
K
M
Okay,
so
I'm
apologizing
now
I
have
all
my
questions
scribbled
around
on
one
page,
so
my
intention
is
to
not
give
you
whiplash,
but
I
may
working
backwards.
Customer
class
is
an
interesting
concept
to
me
and
I'm
grateful
that
you're
talking
about
looking
at
that.
I
hope
that
it's
based
on
consumption
consumption,
because
very
few
entities
are
in
a
position
in
today's
economy,
subsidizing
others.
So
thank
you
for
doing
that.
M
K
K
Well,
there's
some
that
goes
that
way
as
well.
So
I
just
remember
the
you
see
the
portal
down
here.
In
the
rest,
you
see
the
treatment
plan
up
there,
but
also
we
have
effluent
going
that
way.
So
the
trunk
line
just
kind
of
cruises
through
and
we
have
multiple
connections
but
the
whole
thing
with
respect
to
I
think
the
question
was
about
Bright,
Water
or
fourth.
K
M
M
K
M
M
K
H
K
K
L
Know
most
cities
will
be
looking
at
rates
if
at
all
in
October
November
range.
So
a
lot
of
those
comparisons
that
we
looked
at
for
those
bar
graphs.
Those
are
2022
rates
for
those
cities
and
districts,
so
many
of
them
will
be
going
through
the
same
process
looking
at
their
finances
and
might
be
increasing
rates
themselves.
You
know
January
1st
23.
M
Okay,
well
I
I
will
I
will
tell
you
at
this
point.
I
saw
the
six
percent
increase
on
water
and
I
thought.
Didn't
we
just
have
a
hefty
water
increase
and
say
we're
doing
it
a
hefty
increase
here
so
that
we
can
soften
it
down
the
road
and
I
understand
the
impact
of
today's
economy
and
the
and
the
need
to
keep
the
system
running.
M
But
I
got
to
tell
you
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
some
inner
ties
that
are
working
and
maybe
we
could
do
some
competitive
water
purchases
so
that
we're
not
always
at
Seattle's
Mercy
for
buying
their
product
at
their
price.
So
I'm
I'm,
very,
very
in
I've,
been
interested
in
Alderwood
Water
for
a
long
time.
This,
this
more
so
and
then
I
appreciate
the
the
winter
averaging
times
narrowing.
M
That
would
it
be
possible
to
go
to
like
March
31st,
because
I'm
just
thinking
about
how
we
use
water
at
our
house-
and
we
start
power
washing
things
and
we
don't
we
don't.
You
know
we're
doing
it
as
spring
is
starting
to
you
know,
and
that's
not
part
of
our
normal
wintertime
usage
and
I
know
that
it's
not
just
us,
so
would
it
be
possible
to
even
move
it
a
month
more
in
currently.
K
H
J
M
K
Yes,
if
I
can
respond
to
that
real,
quick
yeah.
Once
again,
this
is
a
public
hearing,
and
so
we're
at
this
is
more
of
the
information
exchange
than
the
yeah
yeah.
Testimony
from
from
other
folks
that
may
have
signed
up
and
then
yeah,
you
guys
will
close
it
or
go
these
type
of
questions
we
can.
We
could
we
could
address
and
come
back
with
perfect
what
I'll
say,
though,
on
irrigation,
it's
it's
really
challenging,
because
even
now
you
have
to
show
that
there's
been
a
Major
Impact.
K
K
No,
it's
not
for
whoopsie
and
that's
it.
It
really
is.
We
see
irrigation
I
mean
it's
a
very
good
thing,
but
it's
it's
not.
We
need
the
water
on
our
home
for
health,
Life
Safety.
It's
it's
more
of
something
hey.
If
you're
going
to
use
this,
you
should
manage
it.
If
you
choose
not
to
manage
it
well,
then
you
may
be
using
more
water.
That's
going
to
get
in
your
soil
and
it's
it's
not
where
you
want
it,
but
please
manage
it.
Well,
okay,.
M
I
You
mentioned
that
grants
were
possible
for
the
water
utility
and
that
that
might
kind
of
offset
some
of
those
those
fund
balances
that
are
going
into
the
negative,
but
are
there
also
grant
opportunities
for
the
storm
utilities
and
for
some
of
the
fish
culverts
and
are
those
being
pursued
by
the
the
city
as
well?
Most.
K
Definitely
there
are
actually
some
very
good
opportunities
coming
forward
with
respect
to
Federal
allocations
for
fish
culverts,
typically
I
focus
on
the
water,
because
it's
been
the
one
that's
been
most
a
challenge
with
respect
to
revenue
and
expense,
but
yeah
we're
always
looking
for
opportunities,
because
you
think
a
one
percent
increase
on
seven
million.
That's
seventy
thousand
dollars
a
year.
That's
not
much
I
mean
it
it.
It's
always
hard
to
increase
rates,
but
you
imagine
what
it's
paying
for.
That's!
K
J
Thank
you.
Thanks
for
the
presentation.
The
photos
are
exciting,
too
love
to
hear
about
how
the
system
works,
because
it's
something
that
I
had
no
idea
about
in
my
other
capacities,
so
I
did
have
a
question
kind
of
dovetailing
off
of
what
council
member
Zorn
said
for
the
for
the
forgiveness
for
leaks.
I
would
love
to
see
some
data
around
how
often
that
comes
up
like
what
burden
that
is
on
your
budget
right
and
what
you
would
see
alleviated.
J
K
Most
assuredly
and
I
know,
this
is
a
procedural
thing,
so
maybe
I'll
be
corrected
by
someone,
but
once
again
this
is
a
exchange
information
once
that
public
hearing
is
closed.
If
Council
wants
to
give
direction
on
some
things
and
Paul
or
mayor
will
or
someone
who's
going
to
correct
me
or
city
manager,
these
things
don't
have
to
move
forward.
If
there's
questions
about
leaks
and
and
how
much
that
that
costs,
we
can
get
the
information
and
bring
it
back.
K
But
if
it's
something
that
the
council
chooses
to
say,
you
know
what
we
want
to
look
at
this
next
year,
that
that's
a
that's
a
that's
a
fine
option
as
well.
So
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
those
tools,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
we
address
this
before
the
end
of
the
year
and
and
and
some
of
these
things.
If
we
can't
address
in
a
timely
fashion,
you
may
want
to
consider
taking
out,
which
is
fine.
C
As
we
you
know,
rate
increases
are
always
something
that
can
affect
our
communities
and
you
know
we're
seeing
it
right
now
we're
in
some
some
times
that
are
unprecedented
and
thank
you,
for
you
know,
always
looking
and
being
fiscally
responsible,
but
what
I
would
like
to,
hopefully
we
can.
We
can
see
in
the
future.
Is
these
rates,
among
other
rates
of
what
people
are
going
to
be
looking
at,
are
facing
right?
C
So
we're
talking
about
utility
rates,
but
there's
also,
you
know
garbage
rates,
there's
also
property
taxes
there's
all
these
other
other
things
that
are
going
to
be
coming
as
well,
and
so
what
appears
to
be
a
small
increase
at
six
percent?
You
know
a
dollar
here,
two
dollars
there
ten
dollars
here,
ten
dollars
there
can
add
up
to
hundreds
of
dollars
which
in
some
cases
can
really
affect
people
and
I,
know
we're
doing
our
our
best
here
but
I
just
like
to.
Hopefully
we
can
see
that
information
together.
C
You
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
infrastructure
and
contingencies
potential
contingencies
or
having
money
available
for
projects
that
go
over
cost
overruns.
Things
like
that
in
the
in
these
the
analysis,
the
the
information
that
you
put
together
does
that
take
into
account
what
we're
going
to
see
as
far
as
cost
increases
and
construction
costs
in
the
near
future.
K
That's
a
really
good
question,
so
the
the
restricted
funds
that
are
there
to
cover
unanticipated
increases.
It's
just
a
number:
it's
just
a
percent.
We
do
our
best
with
the
capital
facilities
plan
to
to
kind
of
when
we
show
a
project
in
the
future.
There
is
some
escalation,
but
it
I
don't
think
anyone
would
anticipate
the
9.5
percent
or
what
had
happened
next
year.
So
it's
something
we
always
look
at
and
that's
what's
great
about
the
capital
facility
spam
process.
Here
at
the
city
of
Bothell.
This
isn't
a
plan.
K
That's
looked
at
every
six
years
or
seven
years.
It's
something
that
we
look
at
every
two
years,
so
each
time
that
happens,
we're
updating
those
costs,
so
it
we
we
address
it
that
way.
One
is
escalation
at
at
the
time.
It's
the
facilities
plans
adopted
and
then,
as
information
changes,
we
update
those
costs.
Let's
say
every
two
years
and
at
project
level
as
well.
C
You
know
that
that's
perfect,
that's
what
I
was
looking
for
and-
and
that
goes
along.
The
lines
of
you
know
something.
That's
on
the
plan
may
not
get
done,
may
not
get
funded
because
there's
cost
overruns
on
other
projects
that
ensure
that
we
can't
do
those
so
making
sure
that
those
we're
looking
at
those
projects
that
are
are
critically
important.
Maintenance
type
projects,
things
that
are
going
to
cost
us
more
later,
are
going
to
are
going
to
be
important
to
look
at
numbers
of
8
548
catch
basins,
70
miles
of
of
sewer
Maine.
C
We
talk
about
additional
housing
in
our
community.
Does
that
mean
additional
infrastructure
in
our
community
and
how
are
we
paying
for
that
additional
infrastructure
right?
Ensuring
when
we
talk
about
adding
all
these
additional
housing
units?
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
looking
at
what
that
impact
is
going
to
be
on
the
current
existing
Community
yeah.
K
So
when
people
have
concerns
about
development,
I
see
that
as
an
opportunity
as
development
comes
in
they're,
replacing
all
the
utilities
in
the
frontage,
if
they're,
substandard
anything
they
install
is
to
current
standards,
whether
that's,
if
you're,
worried
about
flow
controller,
water
quality
for
storm
water
or
you
know,
restrained
joints
and
seismic
or
still
resiliency,
on
a
water
pipe
all
that
stuff's
brought
up
to
date.
So
when
these
things
come
in
yeah,
there's
an
additional
cost
to
maintain
these,
but
typically
the
improvements
they
make
and
the
materials
they
they
use.
K
It's
it's
I'm
not
going
to
say
it's
zero,
but
it's
it's
a
pretty
small
change,
because
they're
taking
care
of
so
many
issues
and
we're
really
pushing
that
you'll
see
the
Ross
Road
Apartments
you've
seen
some
closures
on
185th.
That's
because,
as
a
condition
of
their
work,
they
have
to
replace
AC
water
main.
C
To
me
seems
like
we're
putting
that
development
is
pain
for
development.
The
impacts
of
development
correct.
Is
that
what
I'm
hearing
you
say?
Yes,
sir?
That's
the
direction,
yeah,
that's
a
good
thing
and
then
and
lastly,
I
think.
If
I'm,
if
I
heard
you
correctly,
there
was
a
statement
about
looking
at
adus
differently
from
single
family
homes
differently
from
apartments
or
multi-family
units.
Things
like
that.
So
just
just
for
clarification
purposes.
K
This
is
another
good
one,
and
anyone
explain
it
is.
Unless
you
you
can
look
at
the
ordinance,
but
for
a
three-quarter
inch
meter,
our
standard
residential
meter.
It's
a
base
charge
plus
a
usage
charge.
Let's
say
I
should
know
these
numbers
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
my
brain's
not
working
very
well.
Let's
say
it's
60
bucks,
bi-monthly
period
for
your
base
charge.
You
don't
use
any
water
you're
paying
sixty
dollars.
If
you
use
water
you're
paying
five
dollars
a
CCF.
Those
are
round
numbers.
K
So
you
as
a
single
person
and
decides
not
to
use
any
water.
It's
gonna
pay
sixty
dollars.
Your
neighbor
is
going
to
pay
sixty
dollars,
plus
their
usage.
They
could
use
12
ccfs,
which
would
be
another
60
bucks
120..
So
that's
very
Equitable.
The
only
issue
is
you
as
a
single
person
in
a
3
000
square
foot
house,
with
a
big
lawn
that
could
use
all
that
water
or
need
fire
suppression
that
could
have
those
demands
because
our
water
systems
are
designed
for
demands.
K
Do
you
have
more
potential
for
demand
than
a
little
tiny
Adu
and
the
answer
could
be
yes.
So,
instead
of
doing
that,
60
base
plus
consumption-
maybe
it's
thirty
dollar
base,
plus
consumption,
because
the
overall
burden
of
that
Adu
is
smaller,
and
these
are
the
discussions
we're
having
with
our
neighboring
districts.
K
We've
had
these
to
start
these
discussions
with
the
Department
of
Commerce,
because
these
are
things
this
is
where
the
rubber
hits
the
road
you
folks,
you
can
decide
that
every
lot
in
the
city
can
have
12
adus
and
a
lot
of
missing
middle,
which
is
fine,
that's
good,
but
when
the
permits
come
in,
it's
like
okay.
How
are
we
going
to
serve
water
to
these
folks
and
if
they
have
a
burden,
how
do
we
pay
their
fair
share?
It's
not
going
to
be
one
single
family
rate.
K
C
I
think
that's
pretty
good!
That's
awesome!
You're
spot
on
you
hit
it
spot
on.
We
want
to
have
the
an
open
discussion
about
it.
I
think
you
know
when
we,
when
we
talk
about
you,
know
one
single
family,
home
tearing
it
down
and
building
two
homes
on
that
same
lot.
An
infill
lot,
basically,
is
what
we're
doing.
There
could
potentially
be
actually
more
usage
on
those
two
individual
homes,
so
I'm,
very
thankful
that
you
guys
are
at
least
looking
at
that.
So
so
thank
you.
Discussion
just
started.
Yeah
thanks.
A
E
E
You
know,
in
addition
to
the
equity,
on
the
conversation
we're
going
to
have
about
home
sizes
and
all
that
the
demand
projections,
but
there's
also
the
financial
ability
of
the
people
living
in
those
on
those
properties
as
well,
because
we
did
raise
you
know
this
year
we
raised
by
six
percent
as
it
was
mentioned,
and
then
we're
raising
another
six.
So
that's
compounded
rate
increases
as
council
member
McNeil
mentioned.
E
E
There
is,
if
you
go
to
the
the
financial
the
table
that
you
had
the
with
all
the
the
expenses
in
Revenue
I
think
there
were
some
places
where
and
I'm
again.
My
math
is
the
quick
eyeballing.
Math
is
not
good.
I
had
to
use
the
calculator,
but
there
were
a
couple
places
where
there
were
supposed
to
be
Reds,
but
they
weren't
Reds
on
the
bottom
line,
so
I
feel
I,
don't
know
how
the
projections.
E
There
might
be
some
missing
information,
as
you
were,
taking
that
screenshot
to
make
things
smaller
to
fit
on
a
screen,
so
I
would
recommend
you
take.
Maybe
next
time
we
talk
about
this.
We
can
take
a
look
more
deeper
look
at
this
and
how
you
derive
the
six
percent
out
of
that,
because
probably
analysis
happen
on
that
spreadsheet.
E
E
K
Many
many
rows,
I
I,
don't
think,
there's
anything
it's
shown
as
black
should
be
read,
I'm,
just
letting
you
know,
and-
and
we
can
have
discussion
with
city
manager
and
director
Lenhart
to
see
if
we
can
go
in
those
in
more
detail.
The
kicker
is.
This
is
something
that
Finance
looks
that
we
look
at
and
fcsg
reviews.
So
it's
it's.
It's
a
really
good
model.
I
just
wanna.
Oh.
G
Councilmember
Mankey
thank
you
mayor
and
thank
you
both
for
the
presentation.
It
was
very
helpful.
My
only
question
is
around
communication
of
changes.
How
do
we
currently
communicate
to
our
ratepayers
any
kind
of
cost
increases
that
are
coming
about
and
I
guess?
The
question
would
extend
as
well
to
to
the
storm
water
since
that's
billed
differently
than
the
water
and
sewer
utilities
I'm
just
curious
how
we
typically
communicate
those
out.
K
For
sure
I'll
respond,
how
we
do
it
here,
then
Alaska
elsewhere,
but
this
this
is
how
we
communicate.
We,
we
have
a
public
hearing,
we
post
it
and
we
we
notify
folks
I'll
say
for
the
last
five
of
these
I've
been
just
involved
with.
We
have
had
pretty
minor
comment,
so
I
I
will
say
it
may
be
that
the
people
aren't
paying.
If
people
aren't
involved
in
that
process,
it
may
be
that
they
find
out
about
this
on
January
well
with
their
first
bill.
L
Yeah,
it's
often
a
combination
of
several
different
Avenues.
You
know
with
social
media
these
days
you
know
Facebook
and
Nextdoor
has
been
a
common
way
to
kind
of
communicate
those
out
meetings.
Just
like
this,
you
know
Bill
stuffers
that
might
go
out
for
the
regular
water
and
sewer
bills.
You
can,
you
know,
communicate
and
I'm
sure
that
that's
the
case
that,
ahead
of
time,
those
changes
are
communicated
when
the
customers
open
their
bill
or
look
at
their
online
invoice.
G
Okay,
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
if
we'd
currently
do
Bill,
stuffers
or
anything
like
that,
but
I
would
prefer
to
see
us
do
a
little
bit
more
than
than
just
the
public
hearing.
I
know
not
everybody
is
paying
attention
to
these
things
and
I
think
it's
helpful
and
the
rates
go
up
immediately.
I
always
wonder
like
what
what
caused
the
rate
increase
and
there's
always
good
reasons
behind
it?
We
don't
raise
Inc,
we
don't
raise
rates
just
because
we
want
more
Revenue.
G
K
J
J
E
Just
to
piggyback
sorry
I
had
it
here
as
a
bullet
point,
and
they
just
reminded
me
earlier
this
year
we
had
folks
actually
complain
and
raise
a
fuss.
I,
don't
know
if
you
all
remember
in
name
and
because
not
I
mean
they
legitimate
cancer,
they
saw
their
rates
increase
and
nobody
informed
them.
We
may
have
put
it
through
the
official
channels,
but
like
in
practicality,
they
didn't
receive
those
notifications,
so
we
probably
should
think
about
ways
to
inform,
especially
when
we
are
raising
rates
as
much
as
we
are
at
this
point.
M
Real
fast,
maybe
an
easy
easier
way
to
do
it
is
to
give
in
the
billing.
There
must
be
a
place
where
you
could
include
a
note.
You
know
next
month,
city
council
will
be
talking
about
it.
You
know
next
month,
Council
decided
and
and
your
your
billing
will
reflect
that
or
next
billing
Etc,
but
just
give
people
a
countdown
on
when
they
can
weigh
in
and
when
the
decision
has
been
made
and
I
would
think
at
some
point:
somebody's
going
to
open
their
bill
and
and
see
what
see
things
are
changing.
K
And
that's
typically,
what
I've
seen
at
other
jurisdictions
there's
a
newsletter
or
something
else
like
that
and
that's
that's
actually
I
know
not.
Everyone
opens
their
mail,
but
that's
a
very
Equitable
way
to
do
that.
Without
you
know,
it's
it's
more
of
an
official
correspondence
as
opposed
to
social
media,
so
I
will
definitely
follow
up
with
director,
Lenhart
and
city
manager
for
future
discussions
on
that.
I
Thank
you,
mayor,
I'd
like
to
go
back
to
the
utility
assistance
conversation,
and
this
might
be
more
of
a
question
for
interim
assistant
city
manager,
Becky
range
because
there
has
been
in
in
part
due
to
the
work
of
the
Human
Services
committee,
a
desire
to
recognize
that
there
are
people
on
fixed
incomes,
they're
and
there
are
low-income
members
of
our
community
who,
like
most
of
us,
may
be
able
to
weather
these
increases
just
fine
and
like
yeah.
Okay,
we
don't
love
it,
but
we
can
adapt
and
there
are
some
who
just
have
tighter
margins.
I
N
Yes,
councilmember
I
can
speak
to
some
of
that
and
then,
if
public
works
or
anyone
else
needs
to
correct
me,
we
do
have
a
utility
assistance
fund
process
within
the
city
and
it
was
currently
administered
by
our
arpa
administrator
and
it
was
funded
with
arpa
funds.
But
in
the
last
few
months,
you're
well
aware,
we
have
a
contract
with
the
center
for
Human
Services.
They
are
also
providing
utility
assistance
directly
to
Residents
in
need,
with
an
arpa
Grant
funded
contract
that
they
have
with
the
city.
But
I
do
think
these
opportunities
are.
K
K
We
have
links
to
our
senior
and
low-income
Reduction
Program,
which
provides
a
25
reduction,
and
we
have
some
other
links
to
King
County.
We,
some
of
them
are
a
little
a
little
older
with
respect
to
cleaning
up
after
covid,
but
there
are
quite
a
few
opportunities
there
for
seeking
assistance
and
I
do
know
that
our
Utility
Billing
staff
are
are
very
responsive
on
assisting
with
that.
I
I
appreciate
those
answers.
Thank
you
just
I,
don't
I
don't
know
if
I've
ever
visited
the
utility
webpage
until
just
now.
So
thank
you
for
that,
and
and
just
the
idea
of
is
there
a
newsletter
that
goes
out.
I
know
that
I
get
one
from
Puget
Sound
Energy.
That
compares
me
to
my
neighbors,
but
is
there
one
that
does
go
out
for
the
utilities
and
is
it
typical
for
this
utility
assistance
information
to
be
shared?
You
know
in
in
that
format,
with
users.
O
A
K
I
I
wouldn't
say
a
backlog,
there's
always
work
to
be
done.
I'd
say
when
I
made
that
comment.
It's
mostly
I
should
have
been
more
clear,
but
mostly
return
referring
to
capital
projects.
That's
that's
replacing
outdated,
substandard
infrastructure.
Okay
Sunrise
is
a
great
example
that
was
AC
main
that
just
failed,
and
so
we
try
to
proactively
address
those.
A
K
Yeah
I
touched
on
that
briefly
mayor
a
lot
of
that.
Some
of
that
is
deferred
maintenance.
We
don't
have
a
large
say
in
how
King
County
sets
their
rates.
That's
right
to
King,
County
spu
are
actually
on
the
operating
board,
so
we
have
a
bit
more
influence
the
jurisdictions,
but
a
good
chunk
of
that
is
to
prepare
for
the
nutrient
loading
issue
and
Puget
Sound.
Okay,
the
department
of
ecology
has
regulations
that
are
that
are
coming
down
the
pipe.
A
Other
than
that,
just
thank
you
for
keeping
the
rate
increases
as
low
as
possible.
I
appreciate
seeing
one
only
at
two
and
a
half
percent
and
everything's
below
CPI.
So
thank
you
for
the
work
you
and
the
team
did.
I
really
appreciate
it.
Thank
you
all
right.
We
are
going
to
take
a
10
minute
break.
It
is
7
26
at
7.
27.
I
will
see
you
back
here
in
10
minutes
at
7,
37.
A
A
B
D
B
A
A
A
E
A
F
Off
all
right,
thank
you
mayor
and
we
are
joined
this
evening
online
by
Lindsay
Masters,
who
is
the
executive
director
of
a
regional
Coalition
for
housing,
Otherwise,
Known
and
frequently
referred
to
as
Arch
and
tonight's
item,
as
you
mentioned,
is
to
consider
the
2023
budget
and
work
program
and
we're
pleased
to
have
Lindsay
joining
us
on
what
is
a
fairly
busy
week
for
art.
So
I
know
I
have
at
least
three
things
on
our
calendar
and
I'm.
Sure
she'll
highlight
something
that's
going
on
tomorrow,
too,
so
I
won't
steal
our
Thunder,
but
Lindsay.
P
So,
as
Kyle
alluded
to,
we
are
not
only
here
to
talk
about
our
budget
and
work
program
for
2023,
but
also
just
wanted
to
take
a
moment
and
share
with
you
that
Arch
is
celebrating
our
30th
Anniversary
and
kind
of
reflect
back
on
some
of
the
accomplishments
over
the
last
few
decades.
After
that,
I
will
walk
you
through
our
proposed
administrative
budget
and
work
program,
including
some
of
the
work
that
we
are
excited
to
be
doing
in
partnership
with
Bothell
foreign.
P
So,
as
folks
may
know,
Arch
was
originally
founded
by
leaders
in
the
cities
of
Bellevue,
Kirkland
and
Redmond.
King
County
was
also
a
founding
member,
and
the
approach
was
really
developed
through
the
recommendations
of
a
citizen
task
force
in
Bellevue
that
determined
that
it
really
took
a
collaborative
approach
amongst
jurisdictions
to
tackle
something
as
complex
and
difficult
as
affordable
housing.
P
So,
at
the
time
those
those
Partners
came
together
through
interlocal
agreement
and
set
up
a
framework
for
Arch
that
has
really
lasted
pretty
close
to
what
was
originally
found
set
up
in
the
1990s
over
the
years,
and
that
is
a
framework
that
pulls
together
our
shared
resources.
Not
only
funding
for
capital
projects,
but
also
staff
resources
and
Technical
Resources,
that
has
shared
implementation
of
programs
and
creates
efficiencies
for
jurisdictions
working
together,
and
that
tries
to
create
special
expertise
that
all
of
our
members
will
have
access
to
as
they
pursue
local
housing
strategies.
P
P
P
This
approach
preserves
affordability
for
for
the
long
term,
but
also
creates
equity
and
kind
of
shares
Equity
with
the
homeowners
at
last
study.
Over
a
couple
a
couple
years
ago,
we
calculated
that
we've
created
over
90
million
dollars
in
equity
for
low
and
moderate
income.
Homeowners
foundational
to
all
of
this
is
our
work
to
support
City
policy
and
planning,
and
so
we've
also
been
successful
in
supporting
a
large
number
of
different
policies:
local
housing
strategies,
code
amendments
and
regulations
at
the
local
level.
P
P
So
on
to
our
proposed
budget,
2023
represents
the
continuation
of
what's
been
a
multi-year
phased
growth
in
Arches
capacity.
This
is
an
initiative,
the
board,
the
arch
executive
board,
initiated
starting
in
2019
to
try
to
catch
our
capacity
up
to
the
growth
in
many
of
the
city
programs
that
have
been
established
over
the
years
next
year.
We
are
proposing
a
net
edition
of
two
full-time
positions
that
will
be
focused
largely
on
again
that
program,
Administration
and
stewardship
of
the
affordable
units
that
we
have
begun
to
create
through
City
incentive
programs.
P
P
We
have
begun
to
pool
not
only
General
funds
but
special
sales
tax
dollars
that
cities
have
been
collecting
that
are
dedicated
to
affordable
housing.
We
are
also
supporting
the
city
of
Bellevue,
with
a
new
0.1
percent
sales
tax
funding
program
that
they
recently
established,
and
then
we
are
supporting
many
cities
that
have
special
projects
that
are
sort
of
unique
opportunities,
primarily
on
public
land,
hope
to
be
doing
that
same
work
in
Bothell
the
policy
and
planning
front.
We
continue
to
support
local
jurisdictions
as
they
work
on
policy
planning
and
code
work.
P
P
So
it's
a
big
work
program.
It's
got
a
lot
in
it
that
we
try
to
continue
to
be
able
to
support
as
opportunities
rise,
but
we
also
ask
our
board
to
help
us
prioritize
within
the
work
program
each
year,
and
so
these
next
couple
slides
call
out
the
priorities
that
the
board
decided
to
elevate
for
2023.
Top
of
that
list
again
is
the
timely
work
on
City
comprehensive
plans.
P
We
have
also
already
begun
this
year
and
are
going
to
continue
working
on
this
next
year,
convening
some
discussions
around
dedicated
Revenue
sources.
We
did
hold
some
focus
groups
earlier
this
summer
of
elected
officials
from
many
of
our
member
cities,
to
talk
about
some
of
the
potential
options
out
there,
some
that
might
be
coming
up
in
the
next
legislative
session
and
are
looking
forward
to
sharing
back
some
of
that
feedback
with
you.
P
P
As
a
part
of
those
regulations,
we're
also
looking
at
potential
policies
that
we
may
want
to
recommend
to
reduce
cost
burden
within
affordable
housing.
This
was
an
issue
that
cropped
up
this
last
year
in
particular,
because
there
was
a
really
steep
increase
in
the
area
meeting
income,
which
is
the
foundation
for
how
affordable
rents
are
calculated
in
most
of
our
programs.
P
P
We
have
a
lot
of
good
project
opportunities,
not
enough
resources,
but
we
do
our
best
to
make
sure
all
those
projects
eventually
cross
the
finish
line,
and
then
we
are
going
to
be
convening
the
board
to
talk
about
a
strategic
planning
process
foreign.
So
now,
diving
just
a
bit
down
into
the
work
program
level
in
Bothell.
P
We
invite
each
City
in
the
work
program,
as
we
put
it
together
to
let
us
know
what
what
you
think
you'll
need
our
support
on
for
Bothell.
Of
course,
anything
you
decide
that
you
want
to
implement
within
your
housing
strategy
plan.
We
would
be
there
to
support
you
on
that
right
now.
We
are
very
actively
working
on
the
Sama
senior
housing
project.
We
are
very
excited
that
we
will
hope
to
be
announcing
the
start
of
construction
on
that
project.
P
P
We've
had
a
really
great
partnership
with
the
wonderful
staff
in
Bothell
to
look
at
affordable
housing
incentives
and
requirements
as
a
part
of
a
lot
of
the
different
regulations
you
are
considering
adopting
and
then,
of
course,
we
are
very
much
looking
forward
to
the
implementation
of
those
programs
once
there
are
real
projects
that
start
to
take
advantage
of
those
incentives
and
then
kind
of
on
the
planning
front.
I
alluded
to
this
earlier.
P
We
do
know,
there's
a
lot
of
new
requirements
from
the
growth
management
act
from
HB
1220
and
we're
going
to
be
providing
some
assistance
with
that.
We
will
also
be
supporting
the
city's
ongoing
work
to
look
at
how
to
promote
additional,
affordable
housing
options
within
within
your
code,
and
then
we
have
kind
of
a
unique
opportunity
to
bring
some
of
our
members
together
on
the
Department
of
Commerce
grants
that
have
been
awarded
to
several
cities
in
the
region
to
promote
middle
housing
policies.
M
M
Did
I
hear
that
right,
yeah
and
something
that
something
that
has
just
really
troubled
me
for
a
long
time
is
that
an
80
Ami
to
like
120
Ami
are
still
people
who
are
struggling
to
find
affordable
housing
around
here.
So
I
just
wanted
you
to
just
elaborate
more
on
what
your
thoughts
and
observations
are
with
what's
happening
in
our
area
with
that,
and
that's
that's
my
only
question.
P
Yeah
I
I
couldn't
agree
more
with
you,
particularly
in
our
home
ownership
program,
which
I
talked
about
a
little
bit.
We've
got
a
whole
whole
range
of
housing
in
that
program
that
is
available
for
folks
up
to
120
of
the
median
income,
and
we
see
strong
demand
for
that.
We
don't
have
enough
of
it.
So
completely
agree
with
your
your
comment.
P
They,
the
issue
about
the
rise
in
the
median
income,
is,
is
kind
of
a
separate
issue
that
underlies
how
we
operate
a
lot
of
the
programs.
So
we
we
price,
affordable
rents
and
affordable
sale
prices
based
on
a
percentage
of
median
income
typically,
and
so
as
that
median
income
grows.
Someone
who's
living
living
in
an
affordable
housing
unit
might
experience
a
significant
cost
increase.
I
Hi
Lindsay,
thank
you
for
the
presentation
and
I
I
really
appreciate
the
overview
that
you
gave
for
30
years
of
really
good
work
in
a
region
and
I,
guess
and
I
very
much
appreciate
the
the
technical
assistance
on
comp
plans
coming
up.
One
thing
that
I
guess:
there's
always
the
question
of
you
know
when
you
look
at
what
Bothell
is
doing
and
the
ways
that
you
are
supporting
our
efforts,
I
guess
what
I?
What
comes
up?
I
P
Yeah
I
think
we
have
done
a
little
bit
of
work
on
that
to
date
and
we
sort
of
provided
some
very
basic
recommendations
and
information
to
all
our
members
and
we're
sort
of
available
on
an
as
needed
basis.
As
cities
might
decide,
they
want
to
do
some
additional
thinking
about
it
and,
of
course,
understanding
it.
It
takes
the
staff
capacity
on
the
city
Side
as
well,
so
would
certainly
defer
to
the
city
manager
and
the
city
staff
about
the
timing
of
those
things
and
sort
of
what
role
they'd
like
Arch
to
play
in
that.
F
H
E
E
You
know
request
I,
feel
like
it's
important,
especially
with
Rising
costs
not
just
for
purchasing
but
also
rents.
We've
heard
and
seen
a
lot
of
stories
of
people
even
as
as
low
as
a
hundred
dollar
a
month.
Rent
increase,
you
know,
gets
them
out
of
those
that
apartment
so
I
feel
like.
We
need
to
have
some
some
protections
there.
Can
you
do?
You
know
off
the
top
of
your
head?
What
the
Mi
is,
these
days.
P
J
H
C
But
when
we
talk
about
affordable
housing,
the
thing
that
always
resonates
with
me
is
what
what
is
Affordable
to
one
might
not
be
affordable
to
another,
and
so,
as
we
have
these
conversations
and
we
talk
about
working
within
our
region
for
me,
I
want
to
understand.
When
we
talk
about,
you
know
Ami,
and
you
know,
teachers
and
firefighters
and
police
Public
Safety,
just
the
average
individual
that
lives
Within,
These
communities.
C
How
are
we
going
to
create
that
affordable
housing,
so
30
30,
fast
forward,
30
years
and
you've
done
an
amazing
job
but
we're
in
unprecedented
times
in
construction
right
now,
construction
costs
are
an
all-time
high
and
to
me
the
first
thing
in
resume:
how
are
we
going
to
create
affordable
housing?
What
things
are
we
going
to
do
to
create
that
affordable
housing,
what
the
cost
the
way
they
are?
So
construction
costs
aren't
going
to
come
down,
so
someone's
going
to
have
to
subsidize
that
construction
right
we
can
find
public
private,
Partnerships
and
things
like
that.
C
So
when
we
have
these
discussions,
I
want
us
to
also
be
talking
about.
How
do
we
work
with
the
constructors,
the
developers,
the
builders
that
are
going
to
build
these
homes?
How
do
we
find
the
subcontractors
that
are
going
to
do
the
work
and
they're
going
to
get
a
fair
wage
for
doing
that
work
right,
but
we're
going
to
be
able
to
create
that
affordable
housing?
C
P
Yeah
I
can
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
kind
of
how
that
that
term
has
been
used
in
the
industry.
I
think
it's
been.
It
was
coined
some
time
ago
to
refer
to
housing
types
between
a
single
family,
home
and
a
multi-family
larger
scale
apartment,
so
that
can
there's
some
kind
of
a
whole
range
within
that
from
just
a
duplex
or
a
cottage,
so
something
still
pretty
small
scale,
but
greater
density
than
a
single
family
home
up
to
triplex's
town
homes,
Courtyard,
Apartments
kind
of
lower,
lower
density
Apartments.
P
Those
are
the
housing
types
we
don't
see.
A
lot
of
that
are
that
are
built,
and
that's
that's
due
to
a
number
of
factors,
but
I
think
a
lot
of
those
have
to
do
with
our
regulations,
and
so
it's
become
a
very
important
area
of
work
for
jurisdictions
to
kind
of
take
a
look
at
how
their
land
use
regulations
and
their
building
codes
might
encourage
or
discourage
some
of
those
other
housing
choices
to
be
be
able
to
be
feasible
and
developed.
C
Barbers,
thank
you,
and
so
those
are
how
those
to
me,
what
I
think
I'm
hearing
you
say
is
those
are
housing
types,
but
housing
types,
don't
create
affordability
in
some
cases
correct.
So
that's
where
I
want
to
make
sure
that,
when
we're
having
these
conversations,
we're
we're
ensuring
that
we're
communicating
with
the
community
on
what
housing
types
we're
trying
to
do
that
can
create
affordable
housing.
So
I
think
I
alluded
to
it
earlier.
C
So
when
we
talk
about
zoning
and
where
we're
going
to
put
these
houses,
we're
talking
about
land
values
on
these
properties
that
are
going
to
increase
because
we've
increased
the
density
allowable
on
those
properties,
so
this
all
comes
from
a
you
know,
an
experience
of
being
in
the
industry
for
30
years.
We
all
need
to
create
affordable
housing.
That
is
undeniable.
We
need
to
have
it.
C
C
G
Thank
you
mayor
and
thank
you
Lindsay
for
the
presentation,
looking
forward
to
samma
breaking
ground
and
being
constructed.
One
question
that
I
have
for
you
is
around
home
ownership
opportunities,
I
think
with
prices
ever
increasing,
one
of
the
only
ways
to
lock
in
your
housing
costs
over
time
is
through
ownership.
We
also
know
that
ownership
builds
equity,
which
is
also
important
in
financial
stability
for
the
long
term.
So
I'm
curious
what
is
Arch
doing
right
now
around
ownership
programs.
G
What
percentage
of
the
work
that
Arch
is
doing
pertains
to
ownership
programs,
and
how
can
we
help
residents
lock
in
those
housing
prices
so
that
they
don't
end
up
in
a
in
a
situation
where
they
may
have
affordable
housing,
which
is
Affordable
today?
But
those
rents
are
going
to
continue
to
increase
over
time,
and
you
know
their
paychecks,
hopefully
will
too,
but
perhaps
not
they're
going
through
life
situations
or
whatever
it
may
be.
G
G
You
know,
make
it
more
affordable
so
that
we
can
move
home
if
we
can
move
home
where
we
we
grew
up
and
we
could
raise
our
own
families
and
I
know
several
of
us
up
here
on
the
diocese
were
fortunate
enough
to
buy
in
about
10
years
ago,
and
housing
prices
were
very
low
and
we
would
not
be
able
to
afford
our
houses
today,
and
so
we
consider
ourselves
fortunate,
but
we
also
look
to
help
the
others
in
our
community
and
really
with
that
home
ownership
opportunity.
That's
that's
one
way
to
do
that.
P
Yeah
no
I
love
the
question.
A
lot
of
what
art
staff
does
is
work
to
administer
our
home
ownership
program,
it's
smaller
in
size
than
our
rental
program,
but
is
a
little
bit
more
labor
intensive,
because
we
are
actually
involved
in
each
resale
every
time
a
home
resells
we're
involved
with
that.
We
also
kind
of
directly
manage
the
wait
list
for
those
homes
and
there
is
a
a
really
high
demand,
as
you
might
imagine,
for
affordable
ownership
homes
in
East,
King
County.
P
The
way
that
we
are
able
to
create
new
supply
for
those
programs
is
by
having
cities
like
Bothell
make
sure
that
you
have
regulations
that
promote
the
building
of
ownership
housing
together
with
the
requirement
for
affordability
and
that's
something-
that's
really
important
as
you
entertain,
allowing
greater
density,
especially
of
those
middle
housing
types.
If
you
want
to
ensure
that
you
capture
some
of
that
value
back
for
affordable
housing,
that's
really
important
to
put
in
your
regulations.
P
P
But
we
don't
have
enough
places
where
those
regulations
are
in
place.
So
we
are
excited
kind
of
to
see
where
the
middle
housing
conversations
go
and
to
see
how
we
can
really
incorporate
affordability
into
those
opportunities
so
that
it
actually
results
in
something
that's
truly
affordable.
For
folks.
G
G
G
J
So
that's
a
conversation
that
we're
combining
in
Bothell,
which
is
really
exciting,
so
I
just
wanted
to
follow
up
on
the
concerns
you
brought
up
councilmember
McNeil
because
it
is
exciting
to
see
adding
density
and
adding
those
affordability
requirements
right
in
there
when
you're
building
units
too.
So
thanks
and
Mike's
doing
great
work
he's
really
great
to
work
with.
A
A
A
I
am
super
excited
to
hear
the
Sama
is
going
to
get
started
soon
and
I'm
really
glad
the
project
on
peace.
South
is
on
your
radar
as
well.
I
know,
that's
something
we're
excited
about
continuing
the
conversation
around
the
I
saw
you
had
Sea-Doos
on
your
list.
Are
there
cities
in
the
area
that
are
considering
those
as
a
solution
or
adding
the
ability
to
build
that
type
of
housing.
P
Yep
there
are
some
places
where
it's
already
allowed
in
limited
zones,
and
we
have
seen
some
some
projects
built
and
I.
Think
right
now,
where
we're
seeing
consideration
of
that
expanding
is
in
the
city
of
Bellevue
they're,
taking
a
look
at
adopting
some
new
regulations
that
would
that
would
make
it
easier
to
build
what
they
would
call
Micro
housing.
A
Awesome,
fantastic
in
terms
of
the
tenant
protections
that
councilmember
aldricks
brought
up
actually
saw
on
social
media
post.
Yesterday,
someone
had
a
500
per
month,
rent
increase
and
right
before
your
agenda.
Bill
we
had
an
agenda
Bill
talking
about
water
fees
and
those
are
Enterprise
funds
that
have
to
pay
for
themselves
and
we
we
might
have
to
raise
those
about
five
dollars
a
month
and
I
heard
a
lot
of
concern,
rightfully
so
about
costs
continuing
to
go
up.
A
Deputy
Merrell
copper
brought
up
that
those
Compound
on
each
other
year
after
year
and
we're
that
concerned
about
five
dollars
a
month
when
People's
rent
is
going
up
five
hundred
dollars
per
month,
so
I
would
be
roughly
a
hundred
times
more
excited
to
talk
about
that
and
have
those
brought
back.
If
there's
a
chance,
you
could
come
and
present
some
of
those
options
to
us
and
specifically
what
those
were
I'd
love
to
know
kind
of
how
some
of
those
are
going.
I
know.
A
A
F
A
Right
I
have
a
motion
from
council
member
Dodd
and
a
second
from
council
member
Mankey
to
approve
the
proposed
resolution
to
authorize
payment
of
119
461
from
the
general
fund
to
Arch
for
2023
membership
dues
and
authorize
the
redirection
of
all
funds
collected
from
the
state
shared
sale,
tax
revenue
in
2022
to
the
arch,
Housing,
Trust
Fund.
Any
discussion,
councilmember
McNeil.
C
Thank
you,
mayor
I
will
be
supporting
the
motion
tonight
and
I
do
look
forward
to
having
open
Communications
with
Arch
in
our
city
and
our
community
to
ensure
that
we
can
bring
some
affordable
housing
to
our
community
and
I'm.
Also
looking
forward
to
having
further
discussions
on
the
mfte
program
that
we
currently
have
in
the
city
of
Bothell
I
know
there
was
a
project
that
was
slated
to
go.
Hopefully
we
can
do
some
work
around
that
and
ensure
that
that
project
does
go
for
micro
housing
within
our
community.
Thank
you.
A
A
F
Yeah
and
tonight
is
that
we
do
have
this
one
study
session
in
front
of
you
and
it's
the
first
of
a
couple
to
be
able
to
dive
in
deeper
into
some
findings
and
share
some
thoughts
around
boards
and
commissions,
and
so
with
that
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
Becky
range.
Who
has
been
leading
the
charge.
N
J
N
Of
the
night,
so
if
you
will
remember,
we
were
here
a
couple
of
months
ago
to
talk
about
starting
a
review
of
our
advisory
bodies
and
our
boarding
commissions.
You
had
requested
that
of
us,
and
so
tonight
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
just
let
you
know
about
some
of
our
initial
findings
and
some
of
our
potential
recommendations
and
just
let
you
hear
a
little
bit
about
what
we're
learning
and
have
some
better
discussion.
N
So
just
some
quick
reminders
for
anyone
who
might
be
watching
tonight.
A
very
long
time
ago,
our
early
Bothell
Municipal
Code
established
most
of
our
current
boarding
commissions
that
we
have
today
in
the
last
few
years,
we've
also
made
some
changes
and
improvements.
You
might
remember.
In
2017,
we
created
the
Arts
Commission
in
2020,
we
added
youth
positions
to
both
the
Arts
commission
and
the
Parks
and
Recreation
board,
which
was
very
exciting
and
then,
as
I
mentioned
earlier.
N
This
year
we
decided
that
Bothell
is
growing
and
changing,
and
so
we
need
to
think
about
how
we
engage
with
our
community.
How
we
interact
with
our
community
boards
and
commissions
is
just
one
tool
that
you
have
in
your
toolkit
for
Community
engagement,
so
it's
important
that
we
do
it
well
inclusive
and
authentic
Community
engagement
is
really
key
for
us
all
doing
our
jobs.
Well,.
N
So
we
do
have
10
permanent
standing
bodies
today
that
you
have
appointed
members
to,
and
then
we
do
have
some
two
advisory
committees
that
are
ad
hoc.
The
telling
bothell's
full
story
is
a
temporary
committee
that
was
started
to
help
update
bothell's
historical
narrative.
We
have
the
city
Dei
advisory
committee
that
was
created
to
help
our
Dei
consultant,
develop
the
racial
Equity
plan
and
then
coming
soon
we
will
have
a
police,
Dei
advisory
committee.
N
So
when
we
were
here
in
July,
we
talked
about
the
study
framework
and
we
talked
about
the
different
areas
that
we
would
take
a
look
at
and
to
see.
If
you
had
any
other
ideas
for
us.
We
know
that
we
need
to
talk
about
strategy
and
philosophy
of
our
boards
and
commissions
and
our
community
engagement.
We
studied
some
administrative
issues.
We
looked
at
a
couple
of
different
areas.
Could
we
be
more
effective?
N
Could
we
be
more
efficient
with
not
only
staff
time
but
with
the
board
members
time,
because
a
lot
of
these
volunteers
are
also
very
busy,
and
so
we
want
to
make
the
best
use
of
their
time.
We
studied
inclusivity
and
representation.
We
are
at
the
beginning
stages
of
rdei
Journey,
and
we
know
that
we
have
some
work
to
do
in
that
area,
but
it
was
helpful,
I
think
to
look
at
it
from
that
lens.
N
We
also.
We
took
a
look
at
the
actual
involvement
in
decision
making
and
how
does
that
actually
happen?
Where
does
it
need
to
happen
more
and
we
think
we
all
believe
it
should
be
happening,
but
when
you
get
down
to
like
the
Practical
processes
for
how
boards
and
commissions
are
actually
involved,
there's
some
gaps
there
we'll
talk
about
some
of
those.
N
So
the
way
we
did
our
review,
we
did
conduct
some
research.
We
did
a
survey
of
your
current
boarding.
Commission
members
and
these
survey
results
are
in
your
packet,
we'll
go
over
a
few
of
those
themes
tonight,
but
you
do
have
the
full
Raw
results
and
I
also
realized.
We
haven't
sent
out
the
Raw
results
to
the
boarding
commission
members
yet,
but
we
will
do
that
tomorrow,
so
that
they
have
all
the
results
as
well.
N
We
did
do
some
research
with
other
cities.
Some
of
us
have
have
been
in
other
cities,
and
we,
you
know,
can
draw
on
that
experience
and
we
also
talk
to
other
cities
about
what
practices
they're
using
what
works
for
them.
What
doesn't
work?
We
also
did
some
interviews
with
staff
and
the
Liaisons
who
are
actually
assisting
the
boards
and
commissions
and,
of
course,
our
clerk's
office
and
legal
office
have
a
lot
of
great
insight
as
well.
N
So
in
this
process
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
we
uncovered
there's
a
lot
of
small
administrative
things
and
many
of
those
things
I
I,
don't
really
want
to
bore
you
with
tonight,
there's
some
documentation
and
administrative
items
and
staff
operational
things
that
we
really
need
to
do
to
just
clean
up
how
we
do
our
boards
and
commissions
I'll
touch
on
some
of
those
tonight.
But
what
we
really
want
to
do
tonight
is
talk
to
you
about
some
of
the
bigger
issues,
the
more
complicated
things
that
we
need,
your
feedback
on.
N
We
need
you
to
discuss
amongst
yourselves
and
tell
us
what
you
think,
so
we
can
go
back
and
work
that
into
our
study
and
our
process,
so
I'm
just
going
to
jump
right
into
some
of
the
findings
and
there's
a
lot
of
material
here.
I'll
try
to
go
through
it
pretty
quickly,
but
if
you
have
any
questions,
let
me
know
we
can
also
hold
questions
at
the
end,
but
please
don't
hesitate
to
ask
me
to
clarify
anything
so
not
a
surprise.
N
We
all
believed
that
we
probably
had
a
lack
of
a
defined
strategy
and
philosophy
when
it
comes
to
our
boarding
commissions.
You
know
we're.
We
grew
pretty
quickly
as
a
city,
we
don't
have
all
the
processes
in
place
that
we
probably
should
have,
and
so
it's
really
time
to
clarify
exactly
what
you
think.
The
purpose
and
role
of
these
advisory
bodies
should
be.
N
It
was
pretty
consistent.
Sometimes
staph
Liaisons
aren't
sure
what
the
exact
purpose
and
role
of
a
border
commission
is
sometimes
the
actual
boarding.
Commission
members
aren't
quite
sure
what
their
purpose
and
role
is,
and
it's
not
the
fault
of
anyone.
It's
just
each
of
the
boards
and
commissions
are
a
little
bit
unique
as
well,
but
so
sometimes
there's
confusion.
N
N
They
don't
feel
like
they
are
actually
incorporated
into
the
decision-making
process
and
they
feel
like
they
have
more
value
and
I
thought
that
was
really
important
that
they
shared
out
with
us.
Many
of
the
members
also
requested
that
they
would
really
like
to
have
more
interaction
with
you.
Some
of
the
members
also
would
like
to
have
more
interaction
with
the
city
manager.
N
N
N
We
know
some
things
need
to
be
done,
but
perhaps
we
need
to
develop
a
boarding
commission
protocol
manual,
much
like
your
Council
protocol
manual,
where
we
actually
publish
things
document
processes
and
share
things.
We
also
have
the
community
engagement
framework
that
also
has
its
own
set
of
documents.
So
I
just
want
to
to
say
you
may
hear
us
talk
about
things.
Well,
hey,
that's
something
that
needs
to
be
published
in
the
protocol
manual
that
we're
developing
for
boards
and
commissions.
N
That's
something
that
we
might
need
to
put
in
the
community
engagement
toolkit
and
tie
back
to
that
manual.
So
we'll
worry
about
where
all
those
things
should
go.
But
if
you
hear
us
using
terms
like
that,
just
don't
hesitate
to
ask
us
questions,
but
we're
just
organizing
ourselves
and
how
we
can
document
some
of
these
things.
One
of
the
most
important
things
that
we
need
to
clarify
document
and
publish
is
the
purpose
and
role
of
your
boards
and
commissions,
and
there
it's
kind
of
there's
two
aspects
to
that.
N
There
is
this
overarching
engagement
philosophy
that
we
need
to
decide
for
all
boards
and
commissions,
and
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that.
It's
pretty
high
level,
but
like
what,
in
theory,
how
do
you
want
your
boards
and
commissions
to
be?
How
do
you
want
them
to
interact
with
us
how
much
input
power
or
authority?
Would
you
actually
like
for
them
to
have
that's
across
all
the
boards
and
commissions,
but
an
important
second
aspect
to
defining
the
purpose
and
role
is
when
we
talk
about
the
individual
boards
and
commissions.
N
So
I
will
tell
you
boards
and
commissions
they
have
a
different
character
and
a
Vibe
and
a
different
level
of
energy
and
participation.
Some
of
them
want
to
do
things
very
differently
than
others,
and
that's
okay,
but
we
need
to
start
clarifying
and
documenting
what
they'll
actually
be
doing
so
that
it
helps
staff
have
Clarity
and
it
helps
everyone
know
what's
going
to
be
happening
with
that
activity.
N
So
I
want
to
jump
right
in
and
dig
a
little
bit
deeper
into
this
notion
of
the
purpose
and
roles
and
I
want
to
be
honest
with
you,
there's
a
there's
a
little
bit
of
discrepancies,
a
little
bit
of
confusion,
and
so
in
the
survey
and
as
we
talk
with
staff
and
as
we
hear
from
all
of
you,
we've
tried
to
distill
down
what
you
think.
The
purpose
and
role
might
be,
and
so
I've
listed
those
here
and
so
the
top
one
is
actually
what
most
of
the
board
and
commission
members
voted
for
like.
N
They
think
that
the
an
advisory
body
exists
to
share
Authority
and
co-create
vision,
policy
and
solutions
with
our
community.
That
is
a
a
very
important
high
level
type
of
community
engagement.
That's
for
cities
that
that's
about
as
extensive
as
it
gets
when
you
think
about
the
continue.
The
Continuum
of
community
engagement,
one
of
the
things
that
most
people
agree
on
advisory
bodies,
should
assist
in
advise
counsel
as
they
make
decisions
not
super
controversial.
They
should
help
capture
and
apply
diverse
input
to
all
the
work
that
we
do.
N
N
That
is
a
little
bit
difficult
for
boards
and
commissions
to
do
because
they
don't
have
a
lot
of
time
and
they,
if
their
role,
is
to
advise
you,
that's
already
taking
up
a
lot
of
their
time.
I
think
sometimes,
when
we
think
about
that
sharing,
Authority
and
co-creating
vision
and
policy,
that's
often
for
a
large
project,
something
big,
that's
a
limited
time
and
duration.
The
only
example
I
can
really
think
of
is
think
about.
N
When
we
did
the
downtown
plan,
we
got
a
lot
of
people
from
the
community
together,
they
met
for
a
long
period
of
time,
but
they
were
all
focused
on
working
together
and
creating
this
plan
for
how
downtown
would
unfold
I'm,
not
saying
that
your
boards
and
commissions,
you
might
want
them
to
have
this
level
of
community
engagement.
But
that's
up
to
you.
That's
something
I,
think
we're
going
to
need
to
discuss
and
then
just
to
draw
your
attention
back
down
to
that
bottom
bullet.
N
N
There
were
a
few
open-ended
comments
that
some
of
your
boarding,
Commissioners,
provided
here
and
I,
wanted
to
just
put
those
on
the
screen.
So
some
of
your
boarding
Commissioners
also
believe
that
advisory
bodies
exist
to
do
some
of
these
things.
I
do
think
these
are
very
unique
to
specific
boarding
commissions,
so
I
think
as
they
start
to
Define
what
they
want
to
do
with
their
boarding
commission.
These
might
apply
there,
although
some
of
them
are
General
and
could
be
applied.
Citywide.
N
So,
moving
on
to
another
grouping
of
findings,
we
heard
pretty
loud
and
clear
that
each
of
the
boarding
commissions
or
advisory
bodies,
they
need
clear
goals,
priorities,
work
plans
both
for
their
individual
bodies
and
also
they
need
to
know
what
council's
priorities
are.
They
don't
know
they
admitted
that
they're
not
quite
sure
what
direction
they
should
be
going,
and
so
we
have
some
thoughts
on
how
to
improve
that.
N
So,
as
we
discussed
with
staff
a
few
of
the
things
that
we
could
do
that
could
address
some
of
these
findings,
not
all
of
them.
We
have
talked
about
this
before
we
think.
Maybe
you
should
consider
assigning
Council
Liaisons
to
permanent
bodies.
That
doesn't
mean
that
council
members
would
attend
board
and
commission
meetings.
In
fact,
we
don't
always
think
that's
super
productive,
because
when
you're
in
the
room,
those
conversations
might
go
a
little
bit
differently,
but
at
least
it
would
give
them
an
ambassador.
You
know
a
liaison
that
they
could
work
with.
N
We
also
think
we've
talked
about
bodies
attending
City,
Council
meetings
to
give
updates
or
engage
in
discussion
with
you,
but
we
haven't
really
quite
formalized
that
so
we
could
schedule
those
out
all
throughout
the
year,
give
them
time
and
a
platform
to
come
and
speak
with
you
during
your
Council
meetings.
We
also
are
really
excited
about
an
annual
fall
joint
session
Workshop
meeting
with
all
the
boards
and
Commissioners.
Wouldn't
it
be
great
to
set
up
a
workshop
to
have
them
all
in
this
room.
At
the
same
time,
we
could
have
some
facilitated
discussions.
N
They
could
talk
to
each
other
about
things,
they're
working
on
things,
they're,
advising
on
that's
pretty
exciting
and
I.
Think
that
would
be
fairly
easy
to
do.
One
of
the
things
that
we've
been
brainstorming
with
Kyle
and
others.
Who've
experienced
this
in
other
cities.
If
we
also
make
some
shifts
to
our
appointment
cycle
and
the
way
we
fill
the
vacancies,
things
will
be
tied
in
a
little
bit
more
to
other
City
processes,
completely
brainstorming.
This
is
not
actually,
you
know
permanent
or
even
probably,
all
that
accurate
right.
N
Now,
but
right
now,
when,
especially
during
election
year,
when
new
council
members
are
seated
in
January,
that's
a
lot
of
activity,
so
we're
busy
trying
to
get
new
council
members
in
place.
We
traditionally
did
our
Recruitment
and
Outreach
for
the
boarding
commissions
at
the
same
time
in
January
February,
so
that
they
could
be
seated
by
April
1st.
N
What
we
think
might
help
is
what,
if
we
take
that
recruitment
window
and
we
push
it
later
in
the
year,
so
instead
we
help
new
council
members
be
seated
earlier
in
the
year
sometime,
January
February,
March,
April
Council
has
a
priority
setting
session,
and
then
we
start
the
Recruitment
and
Outreach
application
window
for
your
boards
and
Commissioners.
And
then
you
do
your
interviews
and
appointments
in
May
and
then
in
June,
their
new
terms
start.
So
what
that
does?
N
It
gives
all
of
you
time
to
appoint
Liaisons
to
the
boarding
commissions
if
you'd
like
it
gives
us
time
to
know
what
your
priorities
are
and
then
we
can
brief
the
new
boards
and
commissions
or
the
new
members
really
soon
about
what
your
Council
priorities
are.
It
would
take
a
little
bit
of
time
if
you
opted
to
go
in
this
direction
to
kind
of
shift
the
schedules,
but
we're
pretty
excited
about
this
option.
N
And
so,
when
we
think
about
shifting
this
vacancy
and
then
we
get
the
new
boards
and
commissions
in
place,
does
it
make
sense?
This
is
something
we'd
like
to
discuss
more.
Should
advisory
bodies
then
think
about
what
their
what
their
plans
are
for
the
next
year,
so
they
know
what
your
priorities
are,
then
do
they
meet
as
a
group
and
say
well?
What
do
we
want
to
do?
Do
we
need
to
plan
out
what
we're
going
to
be
working
on
annual
work
plans,
and
they
can
be
brief
and
short?
N
Did
they
want
to
do
some
kind
of
Charter
that
says
hey
city
council?
What
what
is
your
plan
for
us
and
if
they
do
that,
when
would
we
do
it
I
think
towards
you
know
close
to
when
they're
seated
would
be
helpful
and
then
something
that
we're
all
debating
and
talking
about
when
we
think
about
how
to
include
boarding
Commissioners
into
the
actual
decision-making
process,
should
we
really
solidify
their
official
coordination
on
major
agenda
items
during
the
agenda
planning
process?
N
N
So,
just
a
few
other
basic
administrative
and
procedural
standards
are
lacking
across
all
departments.
I
won't
really
bore
you
too
much
with
this,
but
lots
of
things
we
just
need
to
clean
up.
We
did
go
through
defining
the
different
types
of
actual
advisory
bodies.
There
is
a
list
of
what
that
sample.
Verbiage
might
be
in
your
packet.
N
We
want
to
make
it
really
clear
so
that
whenever
we
need
to
do
community
engagement,
we
know
exactly
what
we
should
be
using
a
border
commission
or
a
task
force
or
an
advisory
committee.
So
we
just
cleaned
up
some
of
that
language.
We
need
to
standardize
How,
We,
Do,
meeting
attendance,
meeting,
format,
chair
elections
and
staff
has
kind
of
stepped
through
that
we
did
talk
about.
We
get
some
requests
to
stream
or
record
all
all
meetings,
and
that's
really
difficult
to
do
just
with
limited
resources.
N
One
of
the
things
we
noticed
too
is
that
we
have
no
standard
term
lengths.
So
if
you
look
at
all
the
terms,
they
range
from
two
three
four
five,
some
even
go
to
six,
so
you
could
potentially
try
to
align
your
term
links
potentially
with
Council
terms.
For
example,
the
Arts
commission
is
a
three-year
term
right
now.
What
if
you
change
it
to
a
four-year
term,
Landmark
could
change
from
five
to
a
four
year
term.
N
And
then
we
had
a
lot
of
discussion
about
limited
resources
limits
capacity.
One
of
the
things
I
really
want
to
be
clear
about
is
why?
Wouldn't
we
have
a
lot
of
boards
and
commissions?
Why
wouldn't
we
do
that?
It's
a
wonderful,
it's
wonderful
to
get
people
from
the
community
involved
and
engaged,
but
it
does
take
time
it
takes
time
from
staff.
It
takes
time
to
interact
with
all
the
members
it
takes
time
from
is
to
set
up
their.
You
know
their
technology.
N
It
takes
time
from
Communications
and
there's
lots
of
different
tests
to
the
staff
capacity.
So
just
keep
that
in
the
back
of
your
mind,
that's
why
we
don't
have
you
know
as
any
Boards
of
commissions
as
we
may
like,
but
so
we
did
take
a
look
at
how
we
could
be
more
efficient.
One
of
the
things
that's
interesting
is
some
of
the
board.
Members
actually
told
us
that
they
wish
they
had
more
staff
working
with
them.
They
wish
they
had
more
attention
from
staff,
which
I
was
surprised.
N
I
didn't
expect
that
in
the
survey
they
commented
sometimes
about
staff
turnover
and
how
they
just
wish
that
staff
was
a
little
bit
more
devoted
to
their
border
commission,
and
we
understand
that
there
were
some
requests
for
a
permanent
Dei
board.
We
did
talk
a
lot
about
the
library
board.
It
does
function
very
differently
than
most
of
the
boards
and
commissions
and
they
operate
a
little
bit
differently.
They're
more
similar
to
like
a
kcls
support
role.
N
The
there
was
a
lot
of
comments
about
the
shorelines
board.
They
are
actually
not
required
by
code,
which
surprised
me
they're
only
needed
intermittently,
and
so
they
don't
meet
very
often,
except
for,
if
there's
a
project
that
they're
working
on
and
then
they
stand
up
and
do
some
work,
but
they
work
very
intermittently
and
we
did
talk
about
some
of
the
statutory
boards.
The
Civil
Service
left
one
and
salary
boards.
How
could
we
make
any
changes
or
efficiencies
there
and
there's
not
a
lot
of
opportunity
to
make
too
many
changes?
There.
N
So
we
do
have
some
work
to
do
for
inclusivity
and
representation.
I
think
we
all
admit
that
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
formal
processes
in
place
to
make
sure
all
of
our
groups
are
represented
on
board.
So
we
have
certain
demographic
groups,
underrepresented
groups
that
need
to
be
actively
engaged
and
reached
out
to
to
participate
in
our
city
government,
and
it's
just
it
doesn't
happen,
and
so
we
need
to
put
some
formal
processes
in
place
that
will
help
us
inch
a
little
bit
closer
to
that,
and
there
are
some
things
we
can
do
there.
N
They
seem
like
baby
steps,
but
one
of
the
consensus
items
is
that
when
we
are
talking
about
a
diversity,
one-on-one
training
with
our
Dei
consultant,
that
would
happen
with
staff
that
also
needs
to
be
developed
and
provided
to
boarding
commissions
that
as
a
minimum
that
needs
to
happen.
We
should
report
our
board
demographic
makeup
earlier
on
in
the
process
to
help
inform
the
recruitment
process
and
then
also
help
you
make
your
eventual
appointments.
N
So
if
we
look
at
the
demographics,
if
the
boarding
Commissioners
give
us
their
demographics,
which
many
of
them
already
have,
it
helps
us
to
know
how
do
we
go
out
and
recruit
and
make
sure
that
that
these
advisory
bodies
mirror
what
your
community
actually
looks
like?
There
was
a
few
comments
about
compensating
members
to
be
on
a
border
commission.
This
is
really
important
if
you
are
low
income
and
you
work
a
job
that
makes
it
difficult
for
you
to
come
to
meetings.
N
It
is
becoming
a
more
and
more
common
and
acceptable
practice
to
more
fully
compensate
people
so
that
we
can
have
that
representation
on
our
board.
I
do
think
it's
something
we
need
to
study
and
we
need
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that.
The
only
body
right
now
that's
compensated
is
the
Planning
Commission,
because
they
have
additional
meetings
and
additional
workload,
and
then
we
need
to
continue
to
evaluate
participation
barriers.
Are
you
having
meetings
that
everyone
can
get
to?
If
you
have
a
hybrid
meeting,
can
someone
even
participate,
maybe
their
hearing
impaired?
N
J
Thank
you
thanks.
Becky,
that's
really
good
information,
I
I
think
the
overall
tenor
of
my
thoughts
is
basically
I
agree.
We
need
to
revise
our
boards
and
commissions
and
I
think
the
ones
that
we
focus
on
and
we
we
back.
We
need
to
back
fully.
We
need
to
record
the
meetings
they
need
to
be
available.
We
should
see
a
section
on
YouTube
for
every
commission
that
we
choose
to
keep,
because
why
would
we
have
something
and
not
be
dedicated
to
it?
J
If
we
don't
go
to
these
meetings
physically,
then
that
content
is
just
lost
and
it's
you
know
condensed
into
minutes,
maybe
and
and
that's
never
really
a
whole
meeting
when
you
just
read
the
minutes,
so
I
I
really
feel
very
strongly
about
that
and
I
think
that
needs
to
be
part
of
how
we
decide
where
we
can
find.
Maybe
if
there's
two
boards
doing
similar
things,
we
can
expand
it
and
to
have
those
people.
You
know
anyway,
there's
a
lot
of
ways
to
go.
There
I
also
think
compensation
is
super.
J
Important
I
I
look
forward
to
hearing
about
different
models,
because
I
can
already
think
of
different
ways
to
do
it
and
I
am
not
an
expert
on
how
to
pay
people,
but
I
I
was
lucky
enough
to
participate
on
planning
with
a
small
child,
because
I
had
a
supportive
family,
a
supportive
other
parent
of
my
child,
and
there
were
people
there.
If
I
was
on
my
own,
he
would
have
either
been
at
the
meetings
with
me
or
I,
wouldn't
have
been
there
so
and
that's
just
a
child.
J
You
know
there's
people
who
have
other
dependents
people
who
have
just
a
time
crunch
where
we
were
just
talking
about
how
expensive
it
is
to
live
here.
You
know
so,
taking
that
time
for
your
community,
it's
not
about
you,
know
someone
just
trying
to
get
money,
it's
about
making
sure
that
we
respect
people's
time
and
that
their
input
is
valuable
and
that
we
compensate
them
accordingly,
so
that
they
can
continue
to
participate
so
I
I
think
those
are
something.
I
would
strongly
want
to
prioritize
as
we
go
into
this
discussion
I'm
reading.
N
J
Sure
that
I
get
everything
I
think
aligning
terms
is
also
really
important.
I
I'm
not
going
to
say
that
I'm
like
super
firm
on
it,
has
to
be
four
years,
but
it
should
be
the
same
for
all
the
boards
and
commissions
and
my
goodness,
just
the
headache
alone.
For
the
city
clerk's
office
is
enough
to
say
Let's
Line
that
up,
you
know,
I,
really
like
the
idea
of
the
cycle
moving
to
really
align
with
when
Council
does
their
activities
too
and
I
will
stop
talking
now.
But
this
is
a
very
exciting
topic
for
me.
M
M
Not
only
just
you
know,
large
project
demands
but
elected,
and
so
we
need
to
make
sure
that
when
we
are
creating
agenda
topics
that
the
people
who
are
making
those
decisions
are
people
who
have
been
elected
by
almost
50
000
people
in
Bothell.
So
yes,
but
with
kid
gloves,
does
that
make
sense,
I
think
I
think
sharing
a
vision.
Creating
policies
is
great,
but
don't
get
too
happy.
If
that
makes
sense,
I
appreciate
every
time
we
get
candidates
we
get
to
find
out
where
they
live
in
Bothell.
M
M
Do
they
in
other
jurors
and
other
cities
have
their
own
Community
boards
with
kcls
prefer
to
create
that
their
own
Library
board,
or
with
the
city
of
Bothell,
having
the
library
board?
Does
that
kind
of
guarantee
that
the
people
of
Bothell
have
a
seat
at
the
table
with
kcls?
That's
my
question
to
you.
N
I
think
oh
gosh,
it's
hard
to
I,
don't
know
if
Robin
might
be
able
to.
She
works
with
the
library
board.
Quite
a
bit
the
library
system,
they
do
have
I,
think
their
own
border
commissions
and
they
have
groups
that
work
with
them
and
support
them
like
the
friends
of
the
Bothell
library
and
those
types
of
things.
But
yes,
in
a
way,
our
library
board
would
ensure
that
they
have
a
connection
and
a
formal
relationship
with
Library
staff.
Absolutely.
M
Yeah
that
that's
important
I
don't
want
the
people
of
Bothell
who
heavily
use
the
library
to
have
less
of
a
voice
on
on
the
library.
So
I
guess
that's.
My
question
is:
is
that
if
they're
not
already
doing
that
in
other
cities,
protect
the
board
that
we
have
right
now
and
then,
let's
make
sure,
I
got
covered
all
the
things
on
this
page?
M
M
Is
that
often
when
I
I'll,
just
tell
you
my
point
of
view
and
what's
important
to
me-
is
that
when
I
talk
with
people
I,
you
know
I'll
ask
them
a
few
questions,
and
usually
I
ended
up
with
saying
I'm
first
born
I've
raised
five
children.
I
think
I
know
everything,
but
chances
are
I'm
going
to
miss
something.
So
I
welcome
a
different
point
of
view
and
please
speak
up.
M
Maybe
not
I'm,
you
know
not
intentionally,
but
I
would
have
missed
it,
and
so
how
do
we
guarantee
a
variety
of
people
at
the
table
with
different
points
of
view
in
all
our
boards
and
commissions
and
they'll
I?
Don't
know
how
you
make
that
magic
happen.
The
only
thing
that
I
could
say
is
Maybe
when
we
have
our
pool
say:
there's
four
four
seats
that
are
up
in
a
certain
board
or
Commission.
M
Two
of
those
seats
are
the
top
vote.
Getters
got
the
top
votes
and
two
of
those
seats
are
the
people
who
got
the
got
votes,
but
were
the
fewest
votes,
and
maybe
we
would
get
some
more
varied
opinions
without
putting
those
boards
in
commission.
You
know
those
candidates
on
the
spot
of
like.
Where
do
you
really
stand
on,
but
maybe
that
tool
might
give
us
a
little
more
diversity.
That's
just
an
idea.
I,
but
I
would
love
to
see.
M
I
would
love
to
see
a
little
more
scrapping
and
and
point
and
Counterpoint
and
get
some
robust
conversations
going.
I
say
that
from
only
just
watching,
Planning,
Commission
and
ltch
I
have
no
idea
what's
happening
with
parks
and
our
other
groups,
and
you
may
already
have
that
going
on.
But
that's
my
two
bits
and
thank
you
for
waiting
through
this
I'm,
so
grateful
you're
doing
it
and
not
us.
We.
I
I
I
I,
do
think
that
starting
on
a
new
border,
Commission
in
June
is
too
late,
because
I
know
that
summer
is
often
disrupted
and
so
to
start
in
June
and
then
to
have
those
disruptions
and
I
feel
like
they
don't
really
get
to
coalesce
and
form
as
a
body
until
September
like
because
I
know,
at
least
for
parents
with
kids.
That
will
be
how
it
is,
and
so
my
thought
like
because
I
love
that
you've
included
Council
priority
setting
earlier
in
the
year
what,
if
recruitment,
happened
simultaneously
as
Council
priority
setting
is
happening.
I
That
way
we
could
move
the
the
the
start.
You
know
the
the
interviews
and
and
the
start
of
of
people
joining
the
boards
and
commissions
at
least
to
like
April
May,
and
that
gives
them
that
gives
them
like
introduction
orientation
before
they
get
into
they
get
the
disruption
and
then
they
can
come
back
and
and
be
ready
to
go
in
September,
just
a
thought,
and
but
yes,
yes,
yes
and
please
please
so
much-
please
Council
priority
setting
earlier
in
the
year
I.
I
That
was
something
that
that
many
of
the
newer
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
agreement
on
that
as
as
Council
as
Council
priorities
that
that
we
would
be
able
to
get
to
it
sooner
in
the
year,
especially
after
elections.
So,
yes,
I
have
having
served
on
the
Planning
Commission
I
really
appreciated,
having
an
annual
work
plan
and
I
do
think
that
each
that
each
committee
would
just
to
have
goals
and
purpose
and
meaning-
and
it's
great
for
each
group
to
have
their
own
annual
work
plan.
I
I
I
N
I
If
a
if
you
know
it's
partly
that
you
know
relationship
between
that,
if
they
knew
that,
that's
where
at
least
you
know
our
committee
was
coming
from
where
where
would
they
fall
on
that
I'd
be
curious
to
know
one
question,
so
you
said
you
didn't,
recommend
many
changes
or
any
changes
to
this
statutory
boards,
but
I
do
know
that
some
of
them
have
the
longer
term
links
and
so
I'm
wondering.
Would
you
recommend
the
standardizing
term
links
for
the
statutory
boards
as
well,
or
is
that
written
in
law
that
that
cannot
be
changed.
N
I
I
I
Do
know
that
there
has
been
there.
There
continues
to
be
interest
like
we
have
the
Dei
advisory
committee,
which
is
ad
hoc
listed
and
so
like
if
we're
listing
ad
hocs,
let's
list
ad
hocs
and
there's
also
interest
from
members
of
the
community
to
see
the
sidewalks
task
force
continue
like
to
be
available
so
that
that
communication,
because
we
there's
always
sidewalks
and
safe
school
routes,
questions
and
and
concerns
to
be
able
to
keep
like
not
that
we
need
to
necessarily
make
it
in
perpetuity.
But
we
know
that
the
work
isn't
done.
I
We
know
that
the
levy
is
still
in
effect
and
we
know
that
that
the
work
plan
might
have
changes
they're,
whatever
whatever
is
happening
there
I
I've
heard
just
a
number
of
community
members
saying
how
do
I
talk
to
them?
How
do
I
get
information
about?
What's
going
on
and
I
think
linking
them
to
the
boards
and
commission
page
would
help
with
that,
and
that
is
the
end
of
my
list.
That's.
N
Great
feedback,
I
will
say
there
is
a
little
bit
of
a
long-term
plan
and
vision
for
incorporating
boards
and
commissions
into
the
new
agenda
management
software.
So
it'll
take
a
little
bit
of
time,
but
you
will
see
some
improvements,
I
think
on
the
website
and
how
different
things
are
posted
and
shared
and
linked
with
that
new
software.
So,
okay.
G
Thank
you,
mayor,
I,
have
I
think
retyped
most
of
what
I
want
to
say
so
I'm
going
to
try
to
work
for
my
list
here.
First
and
foremost,
I
want
to
say
thank
you
for
doing
this
work.
I
know
it
was
a
lot
of
work
and
you
came
back
with
a
lot
of
good
insight
and
recommendations.
So
I
want
to
thank
you
for
that
and
then
overall,
however,
we
plan
to
proceed.
G
I
think
it's
really
important
that
we
make
sure
our
boards
and
commissions
do
have
a
mission
and
a
purpose,
and
that
it's
understood
so
they
can
work
and
accomplish
what
they're
there
to
accomplish
it's
meaningful
and
to
Echo
what
councilmember
aldrick
said.
I
think
we
want
to
honor
their
time
and
their
their
commitment
to
the
community,
and
that's
I
think
one
of
the
essential
things
that
we
really
want
to
get
out
of
this
in
terms
of
the
recommendations.
There's
a
lot
of
things
I,
like
so
I'll,
just
run
through
them.
G
So
I
think
having
that
it
would
be
a
great
great
thing
for
new
appointees.
I
also
think
that
shifting
the
appointment
timeline
to
give
staff
time
to
onboard
and
for
Council
to
create
goals
before
bringing
folks
on
board
would
be
really
helpful.
I
like
the
idea
of
standard
term
lengths
where
we
can
and
aligning
those
things
for
efficiency.
I
know
it's
a
lot
of
work
for
for
staff
to
to
bring
people
in
to
recruit,
bring
everything
before
us
and
all
the
employment
process.
G
So
I
like
I,
do
like
that
efficiency
I,
like
the
idea
of
combining
similar
boards
and
commissions,
also
for
efficiency
and
just
to
make
sure
they
stay
busy.
They
stay
active.
They
stay,
engaged
and
I
know
it's
really
difficult
to
be
on
a
board
or
commission
that
only
meets
once
a
year.
The
left
board's
one
of
those
boards.
G
We
have
one
at
large
member
and
it's
hard
to
stay,
engaged
it's
hard
to
stay,
active
and
really
keep
up
with
what
the
role
is
when
it's
not
meeting
monthly
or
even
quarterly
so
I'm
in
support
of
that
I
like
having
a
council
member
assigned
each
boarding
commission,
even
if
they
don't
attend
I,
think
it's
very
important
to
have
somebody
there
that
they
feel
comfortable
reaching
out
to
I
know.
We
know
a
lot
of
them
just
from
involvement
or
whatever
it
may
be
attending
events.
G
We've
had
a
lot
of
introductions
but
I
think
there's
others
that
just
don't
have
that
connection
and
so
having
somebody
there.
Maybe
the
opening
meeting
introducing
themselves
letting
the
commissioner
board
know
that
they're
available
in
case
they
need
anything
or
want
to
have
a
private
conversation.
I
think
that
that
could
really
help
build
those
relationships.
G
I,
like
the
once
a
year,
Gathering
of
all
boards
and
commissions
with
Council,
even
if
it's
a
special
meeting
I
think
that
would
be
very
valuable
again
building
relationships,
one-off
conversations
always
spark
new
ideas
and
it's
a
good
organic
way
to
do
that.
I
I
know
just
prior
to
the
pandemic.
The
city
had
set
up
some
informal
gatherings
in
the
hall
and
I
I
got
to
go
to
one
of
those
meetings
and
then
covet
hit
and
I.
Think
right
after
that
they
were
canceled.
So
I
did
find
that
valuable
meeting.
G
I
think
that
boards
and
commissions
should
weigh
in
on
policy
matters
before
they
come
to
council.
That
may
be
a
controversial
opinion.
I
know
it's
really
difficult
for
staff
to
do
that,
because
it
delays
pushing
things
through
the
system
and
we
already
have
a
tough
enough
time
doing
that
so
I,
don't
know
how
we
can
feel
facilitate
that,
but
I
do
think
it
is
important.
We
do
it
with
Planning
Commission
right
now,
but
I
think
we
have
opportunities
with
some
of
the
other
boards
of
commissions
Park.
G
I,
do
also
think
we
should
allow
boards
and
commissions
to
go
Hands-On
with
events
where
it
makes
sense,
I
think
they,
if
they're
passionate,
we
should
bring
them
in
and
allow
them
to
help
and
advise
and
summer
nights
Fourth
of
July
I,
don't
know
if
there's
anything
that
can
be
done,
but
I
know
those
are
really
taxing
on
staff.
Maybe
having
more
volunteers
is
even
more
taxing
I,
don't
know,
but
I
I
do
like
the
enthusiasm
and
I
want
to
encourage
the
enthusiasm.
D
G
Lot
of
a
lot
of
value
and
gain
a
lot
of
value
themselves
in
terms
of
audio
recordings
and
recordings
of
meetings,
I
do
like
having
them
available
to
the
public.
I
know
that
is
also
a
tough
burden
being
on
Civil
Service
Commission.
Our
running
joke
was
that
the
recorder
was
around
before
the
city
was,
and
sometimes
it
wouldn't
record
and
I
know
they
were
sent
to
the
state
for
record
keeping
which
is
not
made
available
very
easily
to
to
Residents.
So
I,
don't
know.
G
If
there's
a
way
we
can
do
audio
recording
I,
don't
think
we
need
to
video
record
everything,
but
even
if
we
could
just
do
an
auto
audio
recording
and
have
it
on
the
website
or
post
it
to
YouTube,
that
could
be
valuable
for
anybody
and
and
show
their
transparency
and
I
know,
there's
probably
very
few
people
that
will
ever
review
them,
but
it's
good
to
have
them
there
and
I.
Just
I
like
open
government
I
like
allowing
people
to
go
and
have
on-demand
access
to
to
records
that
we
have
so
I.
G
Think
that
is
everything
I
will
I
will
mention.
Looking
at
compensating
participants.
I
think!
That's
an
interesting
idea:
I,
don't
know
what
other
cities
are
doing
right
now,
but
it
is
a
taxing
thing
for
someone
to
take
time
away
from
family
from
work
or
whatever
it
may
be,
and
if
we're,
if
we're
able
to
compensate
them
for
that
time,
I
think
that
could
be
a
very
good
thing.
So
I.
D
G
C
But
I'll
give
it
a
shot.
I
just
have
a
couple
more
things:
ensuring
that
we
have
a
manual
and
a
work
plan.
I
think
for
our
boards
and
commissions
would
be
important,
so
at
least
they
know
what
they're
going
to
be
working
on
and
if
that's
available
ahead
of
time
when
they
volunteer
to
potentially
be
on
that
border
commission
they'll
know
what
that
work
plan
looks
like
so
I
think
that
would
be
important.
C
Let's
see,
understanding
that
the
types
and
being
intentional
with
a
diversity
piece
I
think
is,
is
important.
So
we
we
use
the
word
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion,
a
lot
and
so
I
think
what
what
does
that
mean?
What
does
that
look
like
when
we
talk
about
abortion
commission
and
be
intentional
with
who
we're
saying
we
want
to
be
and
participating
on
the
boards
and
commissions.
C
Hybrid
meetings,
recording
meetings,
I
think,
council
member
Mankey,
touched
on
the
recording
piece.
I
think
that's
it's
a
great
idea
to
have
that
recording
you
know
if
you
might
not
be
able
to
attend,
but
you're
able
to
listen
at
a
later
date
on
time.
I
think
would
be
important
a
lot
of
times.
We,
you
know:
I
go
back
and
I
listen
to
stuff
meetings.
Things
like
that,
so
having
that
available
would
be
important.
Compensation,
I,
think,
is
an
interesting
topic.
C
I'd
be
curious
to
know
if
other
cities
are
paying
their
boards
and
commissions.
What
that
looks
like
tagging
on
to
that,
it
would
be
important
to
kind
of
understand
if
we
record,
if
we're
paying
compensation.
What
what
does
that
look
like
for
overall
budget
right,
and
then
you
know
what
is
that?
What
does
that
look
like
first
for
staff
time?
C
C
The
sharing
of
authority
was
an
interesting
one,
and,
and
for
me,
it
was
I
was
curious
if,
if
by
saying
that,
they
were
saying
they
wanted
to
have
a
voice
in
the
decision-making
process,
be
part
of
the
decision
that's
being
made.
So
we
we
often
hear
you
know
they
have
these
Amazing
Ideas
and
many
ideas
that
we
have
come
from
our
community
and
so
was
it
that
they
wanted
to
just
be
part
of
that
process.
C
C
The
timing
in
which
we
do
the
appointments
to
the
boards
and
commission
I
leave
that
I
mean
staff
time
I'll.
Leave
that
to
kind
of
you
guys
to
make
that
decision.
But
one
thing
that
did
raise
me
to
think
about
was
we
talk
about
the
work
that
we
do
regionally,
which
is
critically
important
for
the
City
of
Buffalo,
is
to
continue
to
do
the
work
that
we've
been
doing
regionally
to
to
have
a
voice
and
a
lot
of
those
appointments.
C
They
ask
for
those
appointments
early
prior
to
January,
and
so
as
an
example
in
election
year.
We'll
know
who
is
going
to
be
seated
so
is
it?
Is
it
something
that
Council
may
want
to
have
the
ability
to
do
that
early
so
that
they
can,
then
those
folks
could
go.
Whoever
the
newly
electives
are
could
be
part
of
that
right
from
the
start
and
be
introduced
to
other
local
and
Regional
leaders
around.
So
just
just
something
that
came
up
when
we
talk
about
appointments
that
that
might
be
something
in
the
future.
C
We
want
to
take
a
look
at
as
well
split
into
terms
was
a
I
think,
that's
a
great
way
to
accomplish
the
you
know
reducing
staff
time,
but
it
might
be
something
looking
at
doing
a
split
where
you
have
a
two
and
a
four
or
maybe
you
have.
You
know
two
twos
and
two
fours
or
whatever,
so
maybe
look
at
it
that
approach
as
well
and
create
some
some
offsetting
there.
E
Thank
you
mayor.
Thank
you.
So
much
it's
a
lot
of
work.
What's
my
I
mean
going
at
this
point
in
time
everybody
asks
and
I
agree
with
a
lot
everything
that
was
said.
I
just
wanted
to
ask
you
about
the
timeline
of
when
we
were
thinking
about
doing
these
things,
or
is
it
still
up
in
the
air?
We
don't
know
until
we
have
more
concrete
answers.
N
F
I
think
the
the
thought
was
not
knowing
what
type
of
feedback
we'd
hear
tonight
and
I
think
it's
been
a
very
helpful
to
go
through
the
list
of
what
sounds
good
really
with
dictate
of
when
it
would
come
back.
But
the
intention
was
is
to
say:
okay,
here's
what
we
think
we
heard
and
then
come
back
with
some
proposed
changes
that
would
be
for
consideration
again
in
study
sessions
so
that
you'd
have
a
chance
to
say:
yep
got
it
right
or
not,
and
then
the
third
touch
would
be
for
consideration
and
a
vote.
F
I
I
would
say
that
there's
probably
some
of
these
recommendations
that
we
will
have
to
Stage
over
time
like
if
we
do
change
the
appointment
timeline
and
that
sort
of
thing
or
even
for
city
code
changes
I,
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
meeting
with
the
city
attorney's
office
and
work
that
in
so
that's
I,
think
part
of
that
second
touch
is
to
come
back.
We're
going
to
talk
about
annual
work
plans
and
boarding
commissions.
F
We
have
to
have
our
work
plan
of
what
that
looks
like
so
we'll
come
back
with
a
with
a
clear
outline
of
what
are
some
things
that
we
can
do
relatively
quickly.
You
know
Becky
mentioned
things
like
that.
There
are
some
more
administrative
side
that
we
will
probably
update,
Council
on,
but
certainly
doesn't
take
Council
approval
for
so
we'll
call
those
out
and
put
together
a
schedule
on
that
as
well.
E
That's
awesome
yeah,
because
if
there's
any,
if
we
talk
about
compensation
which
I
agree
with
so
we
talk
about
all
the
additional
processes
and
admin
if
that
requires,
if
that's
a
budget
conversation
then
probably
need
to
talk
about
it
sooner
rather
than
later.
You
know
the
Dei
committee
I
thought
it
was
going
to
become
permanent
I,
wasn't
sure
what
what
the
thing
but
I.
If
it's
not,
there
are
no
plans
to
make
it
permit.
I'd
love
for
it
to
be
a
permanent
thing.
E
Human
Services
is
a
community
is
also
an
interesting
idea,
maybe
combined
with
the
Dei
committee.
If
we
don't
want
to
have
too
many
I
love
the
PDS,
the
I
heard
about
it
last
week.
So
you
know
I
already
voiced
my
appreciation
to
the
chief,
the
question
and
when
you
met
when
you
know
the
way,
it
was
stated
that
you
know
the
folks
who
were
interviewed
wanted
to
have
authority
to
co-create
vision
and
policy
at
my
reaction
is
like
what
about
us
like.
E
We
just
went
through
the
you
know,
difficult
task
of
being
here.
You
know,
but
then
I
councilmember
McNeil
was
talking
about.
Maybe
we
we
do
have
this
annual
meeting
after
we
get
our
act
together.
In
the
beginning
of
the
year,
we
sit
with
them.
Talk
about
okay,
here's
what
we're
we're
thinking
about
and
talking
about
the
projects
for
the
next
year
or
two.
You
know
I
think
that's
that's
a
good
thing
to,
because
we
can
do
all
the
work
ourselves.
We
need
all
the
help
we
can
get.
E
N
L
L
E
Okay,
cool
yeah,
I
I,
don't
know
because
so
we're
if
we
decide
to
add
committees
and
we
go
through
work
plans
and
all
that,
like
that's
additional
overhead,
maybe
if
we
once
we
decide
what
we
want
as
a
city
to
do
in
the
future,
maybe
we
can
start
determining
do
we
require
all
those
boards
and
commissions
you
know,
aside
from
the
ones
that
are
required
by
RCW
and
then
determine
because
it's
like
a
long-term
need,
like
you,
do
a
cfp
or
a
comp
plan.
You
know
it's
like
for
the
next
20
years.
E
What
do
we
need
help
with
type
thing?
So
maybe
a
longer
term
conversation
around
there's
the
Tactical
stuff.
You
know
the
operations,
but
then
there's
a
longer
term
strategic
needs
that
the
city
needs
Beyond.
You
know
we're
doing
comp
plan
here
in
a
couple
years.
Maybe
that
could
be
part
of
that
conversation.
I,
don't
know.
J
I'll
try
to
make
it
worth
going
first,
so
well,
thanks
again,
I
realize
I
already
said
that,
but
gosh
it's
so
much
work
like,
and
it's
just
great
feedback
too
I
wanted
to
add
to
to
talk
about
the
shared
Vision
that
everybody's
touched
on.
I
realized.
I
didn't
touch
on
that
coming
from
planning
we
every
year
we
work
on
sort
of
a
docket
with
our
staff
liaison
and
it's
staff
says
here's
what
you
have
to
work
on
and
then
we're
like
what
about
this
fun
stuff.
J
You
know
because
we're
all
planning
nerds,
that's
why
we're
on
the
commission
and
then
it
goes
to
council,
and
then
it
comes
back
as
like.
The
final
form
right
and
I
didn't
realize
that
not
every
boarding
commission
did
that.
So
I
think
that
would
be
an
amazing
thing
for
every
boarding
commission
to
do
because
otherwise,
how
do
you
know
what
you're
supposed
to
be
doing
like
I,
it
I'm
just
I,
just
imagine
sure
and
be
like
so
what's
new
with
you
like
I
it.
J
So
that
seems
like
a
great
idea
and
I
also
really
like
what
our
Deputy
Mayor
said
about
sort
of
a
long-term
Vision,
because
I
realized
that
I'm
like
yeah.
Let's
pay
people,
let's
record
every
meeting
and
put
it
on
YouTube,
and
let's
do
these
visions
and
everything
like
that's
a
lot
I
I
do
get
that
I
want
you
to
know
that.
So,
if
we
can
think
of
like
what
is
our
perfect
dream
for
our
boards
and
commissions
and
then
plan
out
how
we
get
there,
that
sounds
amazing.
J
J
J
These
people
are
just
like
me,
like,
oh,
my
goodness,
and
it
feels
more
possible
and
then
like
I,
went
to
Planning
Commission
meetings
and
I.
Remember
I
gave
my
first
public
comment
and
and
I
was
just
so
nervous
and
then
it
gets
easier
and
then
you
realize
this
is
just
something
that
you
do
when
you're
engaged
in
your
city
and
it's
important
work
and
and
everybody
should
feel
comfortable
doing
it.
So
the
more
we
can
show
them
hey.
Look
like
we
flub
our
lines.
J
You
know
all
the
time
like
skeptic
versus
septic
and
all
that
stuff,
so
like
I,
think
just
showing
people
what
happens
at
these
meetings
and
that
you
can
be
a
part
of
it
if
you
would
like
to
is
so
important.
So
that's
why
part
of
why
I
feel
so
passionate
about
that
I
just
want
to
be
clear.
So
thank
you.
That's
great
feedback.
I
And
that's
my
understanding
of
how
boards
and
commissions
are
are
supposed
to
work.
They're,
not
necessarily
you
know,
making
elected.
You
know,
officials
and
and
policy,
but
they
are.
They
are
proposing
policy.
That
then
has
a
process
and
I
really
like
what
the
deputy
mayor
said
about
Council
participation
in
the
annual
joint
Workshop
I.
Don't
know
if
that
had
initially
been
intended,
but
I
know
that.
I
That's
how
I
would
like
it
to
go
so
that
you
know
when
all
the
boards
of
commissions
get
together
after
a
priority,
setting
we're
then
able
to
kind
of
connect
the
dots
and
put
it
together
right.
I
remember
when
we
did
our
priority
setting.
There
was
a
lot
of
like,
but
I
really
want
to
talk
to
the
Arts
commission
and
I
really
want
to
talk
to
the
the
Parks
Commission
and
then
because
I
just
mentioned
those
two
things.
I
N
A
A
A
Just
so
you
know,
that's
that's
your
job,
but
I
really
like
I,
think
it
was
council.
Member
Dodd
brought
up
the
Planning
Commission
model,
you
know,
and-
and
it's
not
going
to
work
exactly
like
that
with
every
board,
but
where
they
talk
about
things
they
care
about
things
come
to
us.
We
make
a
final
decision
on
kind
of
what
they're
going
to
work
on.
We
do
it
together
and
then,
when
the
work
actually
happens,
they
see
it
before
we
do.
A
We
have
really
like
every
time
we
do
interviews
I
remember
the
first
year
I
was
on
Council,
we
did
interviews
and
I
was
just
blown
away
at
the
talent
level.
I
remember
sitting
there.
Thinking
like
I
would
vote
for.
Half
of
these
people
over
me
like
this
is
like
this
is
amazing
and
in
terms
of
I,
have
a
weird
combination
of
like
my
thoughts
and
answers
to
your
questions
here.
A
I'm
just
going
in
order
on
my
list
in
terms
of
sharing
Authority
and
co-creating
vision,
policy
and
solutions,
yeah
I
mean,
like
I,
said:
I
want
our
boards
and
commissions
to
feel
like
they
can
move
the
needle
to
feel
like
they
can
change
things
to
some
extent.
You
know
there
are
boards
and
commissions,
and
we
have
the
final
vote
so,
like
you
know,
I'm
not
super
worried
about
things
going
completely
sideways
with
that
and
I
recognize.
A
Let
me
I
have
one
small
concern
about
aligning
with
Council
terms.
If
we
do
it,
what
I
don't
want
to
do
is
I,
don't
want
to
have
like
all
of
the
boards
and
commissions
up
right
after
a
council
election
term,
because
continuity
is
good
and
I,
don't
want
the
opportunity
for
something
to
change
and
then
suddenly
a
new
voice
comes
on
Council
and,
like
everybody,
goes
away
for
their
friends
kind
of
a
thing,
I,
don't
think
that
would
happen,
but
like
some
you're
nodding,
so
I
should
let
you
talk
well.
N
H
A
I
would
love
the
bodies
to
attend
Council
meetings
once
a
year
and
I.
Think
Liaisons
to
those
bodies
is
a
good
idea
as
well.
I
do
think
us
regularly
attending
the
meetings,
isn't
a
great
idea
because
bluntly,
we
tilt
the
room
when
we're
in
there
and
we
go
to
so
many
meetings
like
I.
Don't
need
to
go
to
any
more
meetings.
A
I
love
the
like
joint
meeting,
Workshop
of
all
boards
and
commissions.
My
only
thought
is
like
white,
just
annual.
Why
not
more
than
that
like
I,
feel
like
it
would
be
cool
to
have
a
couple
meetings
a
year
like
one
where
we
talk
about,
like
you
know,
vision
and
agenda
and
another
one
where
we
talk
about
like
how's
it
going.
What
do
you
need
like?
A
Maybe
we
do
a
check-in
Midway
through
the
year
and
and
talk
to
them
and
get
feedback,
and
maybe
we
if
things
are
going
sideways,
we
don't
just
find
out
the
next
year
when
we
meet
and
talk
about
what
we
did
this
last
year,
which
probably
jives,
because
all
of
us
are
like
more
more.
You
guys
are
like
councilman
or
daughter,
really
appreciate
having
you
here,
because
I
don't
feel
like
I
talk
five
times
faster
than
everybody
else
up
here
now
appreciate
it.
A
It's
just
a
coordination
would
love
to
have
them
be
involved
in
events,
I
I
think
that's
also
something
that
can
give
them
a
sense
of
civic
pride
in
their
work.
Like
I.
Remember,
I
got
to
go
to
a
couple
events
when
I
was
on
the
Parks
Board
and
I
got
to
wear
a
little
name
tag
with
the
Parks
Board.
It
was
cool
I
liked
it
like
it.
A
If
we
don't
pay
people
at
least
enough
to
pay
for
child
care
for
the
meeting,
we
are
excluding
young
families
from
participating
and
I.
Don't
like
that.
We
are
also
excluding
people
who
would
need
to
take
time
off
work
that
work
in
the
evenings
and
I,
don't
like
that
either
I
I
would
like
to
do
something.
A
A
M
Discussion
have
that
bank
of
knowledge,
and
so,
if
you
want
to
make
shoreline's
a
subcommittee
great
but
I,
don't
want
to
see
them
go
away
because
that
that
is
a
huge
Brain
Trust,
that's
very,
very
important
to
our
whole
focus
in
Salmon
recovery
and
healthy
Shores,
and
so
that's
that
I
wanted
to
make
that
point.
That
shorelines
needs
a
place
and
it
may
find
some
other
allies
in
some
other
boards
and
commissions
as
well.
A
J
Thank
you.
I
had
two
things
I
wanted
to
ask
about
so
earlier.
We
were
all
reminded
that
I
don't
have
any
like
external
committee,
commission,
whatever
appointments
and
I
know
that
former
councilmember
door
had
some
and
they
were
absorbed.
So
if
anybody
is
overloaded
or
doesn't
like
something
feel
free
to
pick
on
me
and
I,
don't
know
how
we
reassign
things
but
turns
out.
I
have
availability
so
I'm
here
to
support
you
in
that.
A
Yes,
this
is
something
I,
don't
know
if
I've
brought
it
up
with
you
or
not,
but
I've
been
thinking,
nope,
okay,
I
I
want
to
do
something
like
that.
We
have
some
housing
stuff
coming
up
and
I
think
it
would
be
a
really
good
idea
just
to
give
the
Community
an
opportunity
to
show
up
and
just
have
a
conversation
rather
than
public
comment
and
everybody
talks
and
we
clam
up
and
don't
respond.
I
This
is
a
conversation
that
I've
had
with
staff
and
my
understanding
and
well,
you
guys
aren't
involved
in
this
conversation
I'm,
sorry,
so
my
understanding
and
is
that
that
is
a
political
effort
and
not
a
city
city,
sponsored
effort,
and
so
when
councilmember
Dewer
was
doing
those
she
was
doing
those
in
an
individual
capacity
and
and
sometimes
coordinated
with
other
council
members.
But
that
would
be
sort
of
my
entertaining
as
an
off
the
diocese
kind
of
planning
thing
and
because
I
have
talked
to
staff
about
it.
I
J
You
I
didn't
realize
it
wasn't
like
a
city
thing.
So
that's
that's
good
to
know,
although
that
makes
me
that'll
be
interesting
to
try
and
organize
I
guess
it
and
I
would
love
to
I
love
the
idea
of
going
to
the
community
like
living
in
the
Snohomish
County
part
of
the
city
growing
up
there.
I
came
down
here
for
the
library
and
that
was
it
I
think
I
went
to
the
park
at
Buffalo
Landing
twice
as
a
child
and
I
was
otherwise
up.
J
J
But
I
would
love
for
us
to
do
that
in
a
less
formal
capacity
than
our
meeting,
so
just
be
there
for
the
community
like
steal
the
police
department's
idea
of
coffee
with
a
cop
coffee
with
council
members,
you
can
make
fun
of
our
orders
and
how
much
I,
like
oat
milk,
like
just
different
things,
that
we
can.
You
know
that
we
can
do
to
be
out
there
because
yeah
we.
We
want
people
to
know
that
weird,
regular
people
and
we
want
to
hear
from
them.
Okay,.
M
Thank
you,
Rami.
Thank
you.
So,
like
just
talk
just
talk,
thank
you.
Coffee
with
a
cop
is
what
came
to
come
on
to
mine
coffee
with
a
council
member.
Although
I
think
we
need
some
sort
of
draw
like
would
bro
come,
you
know
something
to
bring,
and
you
know
everybody
loves
to
come
pet,
a
dog
and
who
doesn't
love
coffee.
So
it
would
be
great
to
do
something.
You
know.
M
Don't
have
high
expectations
for
a
huge
Community
turn
out,
but
it
would
be
lovely
to
like
every
two
three
months
have
coffee
with
a
couple
council
members
rotate
say:
okay,
you
two.
It's
your
turn
up
at
Woods,
something
like
that
where
we
could
just
update
the
community
on
things
that
council's
doing
get
people's
thoughts
on
things
hear
from
them
on
their
thoughts
about
what's
going
on
in
their
neighborhood,
especially
if
we
can
hit
the
northern
part
of
the
city.
M
E
F
How
do
we
do
it?
I've
been
warned
not
to
be
drawn
into
your
Council
conversations,
but
I
you
laid
down
the
opportunities,
so
I'll
walk
in
I
think
this
is,
you
know.
I
I
have
heard
from
council
member
alderks
on
this.
It's
the
first
time
that
there's
been
some
momentum,
be
happy
to
tee
up
some
options.
I
the
what
I've
heard
said
can
be
true
of
that.
Yes,
there
are.
F
There
are
times
when,
as
a
political
activity,
all
seven
of
you
and
some
others
will
be
out
in
the
community
doing
things,
and
we
can
look
at
some
options
and
opportunities
to
get
out
in
the
community
to
hear
from
people
where
they
live
and
in
different
settings
as
just
sharing
with
with
Becky
again
I
used
to
work
in
this
place.
That
started
with
a
B
down
the
road
from.
F
In
the
Summers
we
would
do
community
walks
with
the
executive
leadership
team.
Sorry
folks
and
then
council
members
were
invited
too,
and
we
would
find
like
five
different
neighborhoods
or
do
you
have
traffic
areas
and
do
walks
or
meet
in
parks
and
that
sort
of
thing
and
advertise
it,
and
it
was
a
public
meeting
out
in
the
community.
A
M
I
I
I
have
no
Pride
I.
Would
love
to
steal
that
idea
from
the
other
City
down
the
road
that
starts
with
a
B
I
I
can
tell
you
that
I'm
just
thinking
of
neighborhoods
that
if
we
said
announce
that
we're
going
to
be
at
your
Park
there
would
be
people
that
would
show
up
yeah
and
would
drag
us
to
go
Point
things
out.
So
I
love.
That
idea.
G
G
If
we
were
to
take
City
Council
to
different
places
around
the
city
twice
a
year,
once
a
quarter
I,
don't
know
what's
with
feasible
but
hold
City
Council
meetings
out
of
school
in
the
community.
That
would
make
it
easier
for
people
to
show
up
too
I.
Don't
know
what
kind
of
attendance
we
get
I
don't
know
what
kind
of
reaction
we
get,
but
I
don't
think
that
I'm
aware
of
anybody's
ever
done
that
before
so
I,
don't
know
just
want
to
throw
it
out
there
as
an
idea
and
see
what
others
think
the.
M
G
J
E
E
J
But
for
serious,
though
like
I,
it's
a
great
idea
and
I
love
the
idea
of
going
to
people
just
because
I
feel
like
it
can
be
a
barrier
just
to
get
down
here
at
a
set
time
and
and
kind
of
feel
like
you
have
a
reason
to
go
and
take
attention
like
we
Pacific
northwesterners,
sometimes
don't
like
to
draw
attention
to
themselves.
So
if
we
can
help
encourage
people
to
show
up
by
doing
different
things
like
that,
can
only
bring
cool
stuff.
M
What
was
it
that
we
were,
that
art
was
doing
on
one
of
our
Arts
nights,
but
something
like
that
that
was
would
be
a
it's
their
idea
of
coming
up
with
something
that
would
be
workable,
but
it'd
be
lovely
to
have
something
that
gets
carried
around
to
different
parts
of
the
city
and
the
community
gets
to
put
their
touch
on
it.
And
then
it's
part
of
one
single
piece
so.
J
The
other
city
with
a
bee
has
and
I
literally
just
on
the
way
from
my
work
to
like
Crossroads
to
return
something
so
I,
don't
know
a
lot
about
Bellevue,
but
they
have
tiles
on
the
side
of
a
road
that,
like
are
at
each
neighborhood.
Like
imagine
an
art
installation
that
everybody
worked
on,
that
you
know
like
something
like
that
would
be
cool
when.
J
M
I
Have
two
points
to
that:
Conifer
view
did
that
we
have
these
lovely
signs
that
were
crowdsourced
by
members
of
the
neighborhood
and
were
put
up
at
the
beat
at
the
entrances
on
both
sides,
and
one
of
them
still
stands.
The
other
one
got
taken
out
by
I
think
somebody
doing
donuts
in
the
road
as
well
as
a
tree.
So
thank
you.
Public
works
for
making
our
median
safe
and
then
the
other
point
I'm
not
opposed
to
having
Council
Council
meetings
in
the
community.
I
I
think
that
there
is
something
very
powerful
about
taking
City
Hall
to
the
people
and
not
making
people
come
to
City
Hall,
but
I.
Also,
another
concept
that
was
discussed
with
in
my
one-on-ones
with
the
city
manager
was
the
idea
of
town
halls
and
forums
that
you
know.
We
don't
need
to
do
them.
Just
when
we're
running
for
office,
we
could
do
them
twice
a
year
in
the
community
and
and
take
turns
where
we
are
in
the
in
in
neighborhoods.
E
M
Yeah
yeah
I
was
going
to
say.
Maybe
we
ought
to
let
that
idea
simmer
for
a
while
and
then
I
have
a
question
as
much
as
I
love
you
all.
We
could
in
theory,
be
out
before
10
if
we
do
it
in
within
the
next
10
minutes.
So
the
seconded
and
I
think
we
might
be
getting
a
little
bit
rummy
and
you
guys
are
just
hanging
on
by
a
thread
so
I
don't
know
I'm
game
for.