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From YouTube: Bothell Planning Commission - April 19, 2023
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CALL TO ORDER
4:25 - PUBLIC COMMENTS
11:12 - APPROVAL OF MINUTES: April 5, 2023
14:45 - PUBLIC HEARING: Outdoor Dining Code Amendments
24:35 - STUDY SESSION: Comprehensive Plan Update
1:30:00 - UNFINISHED BUSINESS
1:52:15 - REPORTS FROM STAFF
1:55:45 - REPORTS FROM MEMBERS
ADJOURNMENT
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Before
we
move
on
to
the
agenda
items
I'd
like
to
acknowledge
our
hybrid
meeting
format,
the
city
of
Bothell
is
providing
the
option
to
attend
this
meeting,
either
in
person
or
remotely
via
Zoom
for
those
who
are
participating
via
Zoom.
The
chat
and
question
functions
are
not
available
to
you
for
use
to
ensure
compliance
with
the
open
public
meetings.
Act
public
comment
and
hearing
testimony
will
be
allowed
both
in
person
and
Via
Zoom.
Those
wishing
to
comment
via
Zoom
were
asked
to
submit
an
online
form
by
3
pm.
Today.
A
People
wishing
to
submit
written
comments
were
also
asked
to
submit
those
comments
by
3
pm.
Email
was
encouraged
as
well
and
will
be
acknowledged.
Those
in
attendance
may
make
comments
and
have
been
asked
to
indicate
their
desire
to
comment
on
sign-in
sheets,
the
Imagine,
Bothell,
City
notice,
City
website
and
tonight's
agenda.
All
provided
information
to
the
public
for
providing
comments.
A
video
of
this
meeting
will
be
streamed,
live
as
well
as
recorded
and
available
for
later.
A
Viewing
on
the
city's
YouTube
channel
call
in
number
was
provided
on
the
meeting
agenda
for
members
of
the
public
who
wish
to
call
in
by
phone
and
listen
live
to
the
meeting
for
our
phone
in
callers
during
staff.
Presentations
staff
will
make
every
effort
to
specify
which
materials
they
are
referencing,
so
that
everyone
can
follow
along.
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C
D
A
Steve
murakawa,
so
thank
you
all
for
being
here.
Lastly,
before
we
begin
I'd
like
to
reiterate
some
meeting
guidelines
for
all
meeting
attendees
speed,
please
speak
clearly
and
pause,
frequently
state
your
name
each
time
before
speaking
mute
your
microphone
when
not
speaking,
if
you
are
also
streaming
the
live,
video
feed.
Please
turn
the
sound
off
as
there
is
a
delay
at
specific
breaks
in
the
presentation.
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I
will
be
calling
on
members
who
wish
to
speak
or
ask
a
question
if
you
want
to
speak,
please
indicate
this
by
raising
your
hand
either
virtually
via
Zoom
or
in
person,
and
this
will
help
avoid
the
problem
of
having
two
people
speaking
at
the
same
time.
Identify
yourself
before
you
ask
a
question:
make
a
motion,
second
emotion
or
participate
in
debate,
and
please
mute
your
microphone
when
not
speaking
so.
The
first
item
on
our
agenda
is
public
comment.
A
The
city
accepted
visitor
comment
in
writing,
as
well
as
accepted
sign
up
sheets
for
those
who
wish
to
speak
at
tonight's
meeting.
Written
comments
submitted
to
staff
no
later
than
3
pm
today
we're
forwarded
to
Commissioners
and
are
part
of
the
record
and
I
believe
we
have
not
received
any
written
comments
today.
Is
that
correct.
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F
You
go.
Thank
you.
Okay,
good
evening,
I
will
probably
present
this
again
when
the
planning
committee
meets
okay
out.
My
name
is
Lucy.
Antonio
and
I
have
lived
in
downtown
Bothell
for
over
20
years.
My
home
is
on
186th,
Street
and
I.
Have
it
is
85
years
old
I've
been
working
very
hard
on
keeping
it
in
a
very
nice
condition?
F
I
am
opposed
to
the
changing
the
code
and
the
amendments
that
the
planning
committee
are
proposing.
I
read
all
of
these
30
plus
letters
that
were
published
in
the
April
5th
agenda.
Not
one
agreed
with
your
proposal.
I
have
also
contacted
people
in
many
neighborhoods
I
work
at
Maywood,
Hills,
Elementary
and
I've
spoken
to
many
diverse
neighbors
there,
and
let
them
know
what
you
are
planning
or
what
is
being
planned.
F
As
far
as
the
new
zoning
requirements,
the
planning
committee's
proposals
include
the
reduction
of
setbacks
from
25
feet
to
15
feet
a
five-story
or
55-foot
Building
height
and
inefficient
parking.
We
will
all
suffer
from
the
effects
of
the
addition
of
traffic.
Excuse
me:
we
will
all
suffer
from
the
effects
of
the
additional
traffic
in
existing
roads
that
are
not
up
to
handling
more
traffic.
F
There's
also
the
the
points
of
the
lack
of
sunlight
and
air
light
pollution
at
night
and
the
devaluation
of
our
homes.
I
represent
the
186th
Street
residents.
We
have
some
other
people
here
from
our
neighborhood.
This
is
the
second
time
of
appealing
to
you.
We
saved
our
neighborhood
in
2018,
and
we
ask
again
that
you
stop
this
careless
overbuilding
of
Bothell.
When
is
enough
enough.
F
Finally,
I
challenge
you,
the
Bothell
planning
committing
and
the
Bothell
City
Council,
to
take
a
walk
in
downtown
Redmond
in
downtown
Linwood
in
Northgate
in
Lake
City.
These
are
soulless
communities
with
tall
buildings,
no
light
and
no
human
interaction,
and
if
you
are
not
thoughtful
and
committed
to
Bothell
and
its
citizens,
that
is
where
we
will
be
going
in
the
coming
years.
Thank
you.
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Good
evening
I'm
James
Caniff
I'd,
like
everybody
to
turn
to
page
57
89
of
the
vision
statement
of
Bothell
in
the
first
Little
Dot
It,
says
we
believe
the
essence
of
a
pro
first
vibrant
city
is
found
not
in
his
structure
but
its
Collective.
Spirits
of
those
who
live
within
Bothell
I
have
lived
in
Bothell
over
20
years.
If
you
look
at
the
people
who
live
by
the
post
office
and
they
built
the
104
building,
the
house
is
behind
the
104
were
shaded.
G
They
were
forced
to
sell,
so
they
could
build
another
apartment
and
that's
kind
of
what
you're
doing
to
us.
If
you
put
apartments
in
front
of
us
who
will
be
forced
to
sell
because
we're
in
the
shade
we
already
live
on,
186
I
live
behind
the
addition
Apartments
that
are
on
185th.
All
our
houses
have
moss
on
the
roofs
the
street
on
this
side
of
City
Hall.
The
Shaded
is
full
of
moss
and
green.
The
same
on
the
addition
side.
G
You
guys
don't
pressure
wash
or
keep
up
the
streets,
so
they're
green,
take
a
walk
down
the
side
of
your
building
out
here.
When
you
get
off
see
how
the
sidewalk
looks,
we
have
people
who
live
in
Bothell,
I've
lived
in
Bothell
a
long
time
and
I
don't
want
to
be
shaded
out,
because
you
want
to
rezone
to
five
stories.
G
Basically,
look
at
what
big
apartments
are
doing
to
this
Bothell
area
already
take
a
walk
from
the
post
office
or
from
City
Hall
down
to
the
new
fire
station
and
look
at
the
sidewalks,
where
it's
shaded
take
the
time
out
of
your
busy
schedules
to
look
at
what's
happening
to
Bothell,
get
it
shaded
away
this
way.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
A
A
Absolutely
on
the
on
the
agenda,
so
they
do
say
you
can
submit
write
it
right
at
the
top
of
your
agenda.
If
you've
got
it
there,
it
says
you
can
submit
either
orally
or
in
writing
so,
and
comments
which
are
submitted
in
writing
become
part
of
the
public
record.
They
are
provided
to
the
Commissioners
if
you
get
them
in
before
3
pm
the
day
of
the
meeting,
I
will
receive
them
before
the
meeting,
otherwise
they're
appended
and
we'll
come
in
later.
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J
So
you
should
all
have
in
your
packet
a
copy
of
the
findings,
as
well
as
the
proposed
code
changes
and
a
copy
of
the
cepa
checklist.
You'll
see
that
the
Amendments
proposed
should
be
pretty
much
what
you
saw
in
March
save
for
some
of
those
adjustments
that
we
discussed
at
the
time
that
were
just
some.
Some
kind
of
fixes.
I
did
want
to
give
a
chance
to
give
some
feedback
from
some
of
the
questions
I
heard.
So
I
was
going
to
follow
up
on
that
with
you
all.
J
We
did
get
a
chance
to
speak
with
our
economic
development
manager,
Jeannie
Ash,
about
potential
interest
from
other
businesses,
some
in
the
Parks.
She
noted
a
few
shopping
centers
that
have
done
kind
of
more
on
a
temporary
basis,
some
outdoor
dining
and
some
special
events,
but
we
haven't
really
gotten
any
requests
for
more
permanent
structures
from
them.
So
that
could
be
something
in
the
future
that
comes
up
and
we
can
figure
that
out
at
the
time
and
those
tend
to
need
a
pre-approval
as
well,
so
those
get
evaluated
on
their
own.
J
J
That
would
be
a
recommendation
from
us
and
then
I
also
spoke
with
Janet
gear
from
our
service
Water
Division
about
some
of
the
questions
about
potential
issues
with
the
storm
system.
She
said
that
she
confirmed
that
there
is
language
entitle
18
about
how
cleaning
can
occur.
So
there's
pressure
washing
and
similar
types
of
cleaning-
they
just
can't
use
chemicals.
We
don't
have
any
kind
of
an
inspection
process
for
that.
J
It's
sort
of
on
a
reporting
basis
like
most
of
our
Code
Compliance,
and
if
someone
would
be
found
to
be
out
of
compliance,
they
would
have
a
stop
work
order.
We
would
have
our
inspectors
come
out,
they
would
be
required
to
clean
the
storm
system
and
there
would
be
a
potential
fine,
so
we
do
have
some
checks
and
balances
on
some
of
that
cleaning
stuff.
J
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Second,
the
outdoor
dining
code
amendments
are
necessary
to
permit
the
continued
use
of
outdoor
dining
facilities,
as
permitted
under
the
interim
ordinance
also
necessary
to
meet
the
directive
of
interim
ordinance
2372
to
draft
permanent
regulations.
This
will
provide
those
permanent
regulations.
These
third
item,
these
outdoor
code
amendments
do
not
impact
the
allowance
for
outdoor
dining
facilities
on
Main
Street,
with
movable
bollards
that
allow
dining
facilities
and
answered
areas
as
these
spaces
were
designed
and
built
to
be
used
as
outdoor
dining
facilities
under
the
downtown
sub-area
plan.
A
And,
finally,
the
downtown
code
amendments
are
in
the
best
interest
of
public
health
safety
and
Welfare
So.
Based
on
these
findings
and
conclusions
and
the
entire
record,
the
Planning
Commission
recommends
the
council
propose,
adopt
I
think
you
need
adopt
in
there.
You
drop
a
word
recommends
the
council
adopt
the
proposed
okay.
A
K
J
E
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J
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J
So
working
with
our
consultant
Burke.
The
first
part
for
them
is
the
sort
of
analysis
component.
So
there's
three
buckets
of
Assessments
that
they're
working
on
right
now,
one
is
looking
at
our
existing
natural
environment
element,
which
has
the
only
climate
change
policies.
We
currently
have
evaluating
that
against
the
department
of
commerce's
model
climate
element.
It's
largely
consistent
with
the
recent
bill
that
was
passed
related
to
climate
change
elements,
but
we
all
also
be
obviously
confirming
that
in
the
legislation.
J
The
second
component
of
that
is
an
equity
assessment.
This
is
in
addition
to
our
overall
racial
Equity
assessment
and
toolkit,
and
the
main
goal
here
is
to
identify
who
the
most
vulnerable
populations
are
and
the
most
vulnerable
lands,
and
so
where
some
of
our
efforts
should
be
focused
and
I
in
developing
policy
and
then
finally
an
economic
assessment.
So
that's
going
to
be
looking
at
the
relative
costs
and
benefits
of
different
implementation
strategies
that
we
might
consider
adopting
and
then
the
big
pieces
drafting
the
actual
element
itself
again.
J
We
do
need
to
have
a
draft
by
June,
but
that
doesn't
mean
we
can't
continue
to
revise
that.
Take
a
look
at
it
as
over
the
course
of
the
process.
We
just
need
a
draft
by
June
and
those
three
assessments
are
really
going
to
be
a
big
part
of
putting
together
the
draft
plan
and
making
sure
that
it's
at
least
in
a
really
good
working
Space
by
June
and
then
the
second
component
to
that
is
obviously
presenting
that
to
our
working
groups.
J
So
that's
kind
of
the
short
and
sweet
update
on
the
climate
change
plan.
It's
a
lot
of
early
work
right
now,
so
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
more
concrete
stuff
to
share
I.
Think
we're
hoping
to
come
back
in
June,
potentially
late
May,
with
a
little
bit
more
once
we're
kind
of
closer
to
having
that
draft
to
show
you
what
we've
put
together
by
then
and
then
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
Sarah
to
talk
about
our
finalized
Community
engagement
strategy.
M
So
this
is
the
community
engagement
strategy
is
included.
Oh
do
I
need
to
be
closer.
Okay.
There
we
go.
You
all
have
a
copy
of
the
community
engagement
strategy.
This
is
our
sort
of
final
working
document,
so
it
will
change
and
flux,
and
some
things
won't
be
exactly
precise,
but
this
is
the
goal.
This
is
the
idea.
The
purpose
of
the
engagement
is
is
threefold:
it's
to
inform
the
public
the
community,
what
we're
doing,
why
we're
doing
it
and
what
those
different
components
are
like
the
climate
change
element.
M
For
instance,
then
we
consult
with
them.
So
that's
the
working
groups,
those
the
Outreach,
some
of
those
survey,
sort
of
components
and
we
collaborate,
and
so
this
is
our
stakeholders,
our
community
groups,
that
we'll
be
working
with
those
same
working
groups
to
sort
of
really
dig
into
some
of
those
ideas
of
what
the
community
wants
to
see.
M
We
have
online
engagement.
This
is
in
the
form
of
social
media
email
news
blasts
we'll
also
be
doing
the
engagement
portal,
which
is
in
progress
exciting.
We
plan
on
having
surveys
throughout
the
process
on
different
components,
whether
it's
specific
targeted
topic
or
whether
it's
overall
we
have
the
legislative
process
for
Planning,
Commission
and
Council,
and
then,
at
the
end,
we're
going
to
wrap
it
all
up
with
a
community
celebration
to
say:
hey,
look,
we
did
it.
It's
exciting.
J
So
I
did
want
to
spend
some
time
before
discussion
to
give
kind
of
an
overview,
because
sometimes
even
for
planners,
it
gets
confusing
the
differentiation
between
what
is
a
goal.
What
is
a
policy?
What
is
an
action?
So
I
really
wanted
to
spend
some
time
kind
of
going
over
best
practices
for
visioning
and
vision,
statements
or
guiding
principles,
goals,
policies
and
action,
slash
implementation
measures.
J
So
what
is
a
vision
statement
again?
I
have
an
mrsc
quote,
because
I
just
think
they
do
a
really
good
job
at
summarizing.
Some
of
these
Concepts-
and
this
is
from
their
page
on
strategic
and
comprehensive
planning.
I,
say
a
vision
statement
captures
what
community
members
most
value
about
their
community
and
the
shared
image
of
what
they
want
their
Community
to
become.
It
inspires
community
members
to
work
together
to
achieve
the
vision.
J
J
Goals,
so
goals
should
be.
What
is
our
desire
to
end
result?
That's
going
to
lead
us
to
the
vision,
so
they
should
support
the
vision
they
should
be
written,
as
statements
typically
is
the
best
practice
and
they
should
establish
an
aim
or
objective
under
which
the
policies
and
implementation
measures
support
So
in
our
current
natural
environment
element.
The
first
goal
is
not
written
quite
this
way,
but
if
we
were
to
write
it
as
the
sort
of
desired
end
result,
it
would
be
harmonious
relationship
between
the
built
and
natural
environments.
J
So
it's
General,
but
it's
not
super
General.
It's
still
getting
at
this
relationship
between
the
built
environment
and
nature,
and
it
will
help
feed
into
okay.
If
this
is
our
desired
end
result,
how
do
we
get
there,
so
policies
I?
Think
of
as
what
are
we
going
to
do
to
achieve
our
goals
that
we've
that
we've
put
together
in
support
of
our
vision,
so
they
should
generally
be
active
statements
that
are
methods
to
achieve
our
stated
goals.
J
They
can
be
specific,
but
they
shouldn't
be
overly
specific
or
prescriptive,
because
those
should
feed
into
some
of
the
implementation
components.
So
a
good
example
is
from
our
natural
environment
element
sticking
with
the
theme.
Our
policy
23
currently
is
protect
groundwater
recharge
areas,
the
benefit
anatomous
Fisheries
through
the
critical
areas
regulations.
J
So
it's
kind
of
nested
under
that
prior
goal.
You
can
see
the
connection
and
it's
getting
more
specific,
but
it's
not
speaking
to
a
specific
action
or
program
and
then
implementation.
How
are
we
going
to
execute
these
policies
to
achieve
the
goals,
so
these
can
be
specific
projects
or
actions.
Ideally,
they
should
have
success
metrics
that
can
be
either
Quantified
or
qualified,
because
otherwise,
how
are
you
gauging,
if
that
was
successful
or
not?
How
are
you
gauging,
if
that's
actually
fulfilling
your
policy
and
goals
again?
J
Ideally,
if
you
can
tie
them
to
funding
and
resources,
that's
really
helpful.
Typically
in
like
a
matrix
form
can
be
really
common.
That's
something
we've
been
thinking
about
is
creating
an
implementation.
Matrix
of
this
is
an
action
we
want
to
take.
This
is
either
funding
or
potential
funding.
We
can
to
achieve
it,
and
then
this
is
the
metric
that
we
Gauge
by
with
to
see
if
it
was
successful.
J
Also,
ideally
they're
achievable
within
the
planning
window.
We've
talked
about
doing
an
implementation
plan
or
strategy.
Those
usually
have
shorter
Windows
than
the
comp
plan
itself
about
five
years,
and
that
way
we
can
keep
that
more
updated
and
are
making
sure
we're
checking
in
on
those
implementation
measures
and
seeing
how
are
we
doing?
Are
we
getting
what
we
want
to?
If
we're
not,
how
can
we
adjust
so
a
good
example
that
I
think
could
be
a
little
bit
better,
but
a
current
action
that
we
have
in
the
natural
environment
element
is
continue.
J
Participation
in
Regional,
Watershed
and
salmon
recovery
planning
activities,
there's
some
specific
organizations
more
involved
in
regionally
that
have
different
activities
related
to
this
I
think
this
could
be
more
specific
if
we're
looking
at
more
of
a
five-year
window
of
what
specific
activities
are
planned.
Within,
These,
Regional
groups-
let's
maybe
be
more
specific
about
what
are
those
actual
activities
and
how
can
we
become
involved
and
apply
them
to
our
waterways.
J
So
a
couple
connected
plans
and
projects
I
want
to
bring
up
that
we've
just
been
working
to
make
sure
we're
consistent
with
one
being
the
recently
adopted
city
council,
Vision
2040..
This
is
more
of
sort
of
a
strategic
plan
with
I
think
a
three
to
five
year
window,
but
it
obviously
has
in
some
ties
to
the
comp
plan,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
consistent
with
the
themes
in
the
vision,
as
well
as
some
of
the
implementation
components
that
they're
looking
at
doing
so.
J
And
then
this
is
a
project
that
we're
really
excited
about.
We
got
some
funding
to
do
a
project
called
telling
bothell's
full
story,
it's
kind
of
a
history
project.
Our
current
plan
doesn't
have
a
history
component
and
we
felt
it
was
really
important
to
as
a
preamble
to
the
plan
talk
about
who
have
we
been?
Who
are
we
now
and
who
do
we
want
to
be
through
the
vision,
so
this
project
we
will
be
working
with
our
historic
preservation
consultant.
J
We
really
recently
brought
on
to
do
a
really
deep
dive
into
the
history
of
Bothell
and
some
of
the
things
that
he's
talked
about
as
methods
that
I
think
are
really
exciting.
Are
things
like
oral
stories
you
know
reaching
out
to
the
community?
What
do
people
have
in
their
attics?
You
know
stuff
that
we
wouldn't
otherwise
find
anywhere
else
and
really
trying
to
get
a
really
well-rounded
and
honest
appraisal
of
our
history.
So
that'll
be
a
really
cool
project
that
we'll
be
integrating
in
there.
J
J
J
and,
as
you
can
see,
it
looks
pretty
similar
to
the
2015
vision,
statement,
format,
wise
and
actually
even
content.
Wise
I
went
through
and
made
an
Excel
spreadsheet
for
myself
of
like
what
exactly
has
changed
between
the
vision
statements
and
for
the
most
part,
they're
pretty
much
the
same,
which
isn't
necessarily
an
issue.
But
I
did
want
to
point
out
that
you
know
largely
hasn't
really
changed
since
1991.
J
there's
been
one
added
vision,
statement,
I
believe
it's
number
three
that
was
added
in
2015,
about
sustainability
and
for
the
most
part,
the
rest
of
it
has
been
some
minor
textual
changes
both
in
that
Preamble
and
then
also
in
the
statements
themselves
and
so
talking
about
different
ways
to
look
at
formatting
this.
The
vision
or
what
we're
going
to
be
calling
The
Guiding
principles,
so
one
is
mostly
kind
of
sticking
with
where
we're
at
we
could
streamline
the
number
of
statements
there's
currently
19..
Some
of
them
are
a
little
bit
repetitive.
J
A
second
option
is
to
take
more
of
a
narrative
format
approach.
Some
cities
do
this
where,
rather
than
having
a
list
of
statements,
it's
more
of
a
narrative
format,
so
more
of
kind
of
a
storytelling
and
then
a
third
option
that
I
think
could
be
a
really
great
hybrid
approach
and
kind
of
keeping
in
sort
of
the
feel
of
what
I.
J
Think
of
a
vision
or
guiding
principles
are
supposed
to
be
is
doing
something
a
little
more
visual
where
we
can
maintain
the
themes,
maintain
some
of
the
narrative
and
the
text,
but
integrate
some
visuals
into
great
photos.
A
little
more
color,
some
iconography
to
kind
of
create
more
of
this
feel
for
that
vision
and
future
image,
rather
than
a
heavy
sort
of
text
document
sort
of
setting
the
stage
for
the
goals
and
the
policies
that
have
to
be
kind
of
more
textually
heavy.
Those
are
the
kind
of
three
buckets
of
formats.
J
This
might
be
a
great
approach
to
rethink
how
this
looks
or
we
like
the
way
it
looks,
but
we
want
to
make
some
tweaks
and
then,
over
the
summer
time,
we
really
want
to
work
on
affirming
the
content
of
values
and
principles
with
the
public
and
get
a
feel
for
their
feelings
about
the
public
and
then,
ideally
by
the
Fall,
we'll
be
able
to
kind
of
affirm
both
the
content
and
the
format.
So
we
can
move
forward
with
using
that
document
to
inform
the
rest
of
the
plan
drafts
in
the
fall
and
the
winter.
J
N
Just
wanted
to
say
I
like
the
visual
with
text,
because
you
have
no
idea
how
much
stuff
you're
actually
reading,
if
you're
distracted
by
nice
pictures
or
it'll
make
you
want
to
read.
I
just
think
about.
You
know
when
you
travel
through
a
museum
or
a
zoo,
there's
a
picture
and
something
to
read.
Everybody's
gonna
or
most
people
will
read
it
because
they
want
to
know
if
it's
related
to
the
picture
and
it's
also
distracting
and
it's
pretty
and
it
it's
inviting
I
mean
I.
N
C
M
I
I
It's
like
a
skit
of
just
images
and
trying
to
sell
something.
But
you
don't
know
what
they're
selling
they're,
just
like
here's
a
picture
of
a
flag
and
people
rolling
up
their
sleeves
and
we're
all
in
this
together
and
then
they're
like.
Let's
do
it
together
and
if
there's
no
by
the
end
of
the
commercial.
E
F
I
J
Yeah
and
that's
something
we
can
definitely
talk
about
with
our
consultant,
especially
when
we
consider
what
even
format
we
want
to
provide
the
plan
in
on
online.
If
that's
just
a
PDF
one
of
the
plans
example
plans.
I
provided
has
a
kind
of
a
cool,
flipbook
format
online.
That's
much
more
interactive
that
probably
be
easier
to
integrate
some
of
that
accessibility
component.
So
that's
definitely
something
we
can
take
to
our
consultant
team
and
discuss
how
best
to
do
that.
J
J
Yeah,
typically,
when
and
I
think
it's
the
Greensboro
example
they
have
both.
So
you
can
do
the
online
one
where
you're
just
kind
of
flipping
through
and
it's
kind
of
that
interactive
version,
which
is
a
little
bit
easier
to
click
around.
But
then
you
can
also
just
download
the
whole
document
as
a
PDF
as
well.
So
multiple
options.
K
Thanks
commissioner
Mr
Beck
here,
I
I
just
will
concur
with
what
I've
heard
so
far.
I
love
the
visual
I
also
agree.
Obviously,
accessibility
is
really
important
and
the
image
is
chosen.
I
mean
if
you
only
have
a
handful
of
images,
they're
going
to
have
to
really
be
curated
to
be
like
it's
just
the
for
those
people
who
are
seeing
it.
It's
just
the
image
we
want
to
convey
and
then
I
noticed.
K
You
know
in
the
old
19
points
is
a
lot
so
I'd
love
to
see
I,
don't
know
what
the
number
should
be,
what
10
or
12,
or
something
like
that.
Maybe
I,
see
in
your
comments.
I
was
reading
through
the
2015
on
the
1991
version,
making
some
notes.
I
was
reading
through
the
packet
and
then
I
see
your
as
we
get
through
it.
I
see
your
spreadsheet,
like.
Oh,
you
caught
pretty
much
all
the
things
that
I
wanted
to
note.
So
I
I
love
it
caught
those
those
elements.
K
As
far
as
some
of
the
changes
I
would
love
to
see
made,
but
anyway
the
19
or
there's
a
lot
of
them
they're
kind
of
wordy,
but
they
say
something
I
mean
they
they
get
their
point
across.
So
this
San
Jose
one,
it's
pretty
concise
and
I-
think
we
all
appreciate
that.
But
as
long
as
we
get
those
points
across
that
we've
got
in
the
2015
version,
that's
an
evolution
of
1991..
K
Well,
as
we
can
get
those
points
across
that
we
all
think
should
be
in
the
new
version.
I
like
that
idea,
a
lot
streamlining
and
so
I
guess
concise,
but
thorough.
If
you
can
have
the
strike
the
balance
of
both,
because
it
seems
like
we're
trying
to
at
least
pass
authors,
really
we're
trying
to
make
a
point
and
it
might
get
a
little
wordy,
which
is
where
it's
nice,
like
commissioner
Anders,
said
to
have
some
something
to
look
at
while
you're
reading.
All
those
words.
J
As
well,
okay
and
so
we're
not
necessarily
limited
to
it,
just
being
the
visual
or
just
being
a
narrative
we
can
play
around
with.
Well,
maybe
we
want
to
retain
some
of
those
narrative
paragraphs
in
the
front
but
make
the
actual
statements
a
little
more
concise
and
maybe
Nestle
them
into
their
themes,
like
I.
Think
the
Richmond
example
had
yeah
so
titled
themes,
and
then
they
had
some
points
underneath
and
those
were
just
some
examples
that
I
found
on
the
APA
Awards
page.
K
Yeah
I
think
it's
definitely
more
digestible
and
more
appealing,
as
I
mean
we
have
to
write
it
as
Planning
Commission
and
staff
and
everything,
but
people
who
are
going
to
pick
this
up.
We
want
them
to
read
it
and
look
at
it
so
making
it
as
appealing
as
possible.
I
know
images
would
do
that
for
me.
So
all
for
that,
thank
you.
A
Are
the
commissioners
so
so
I
would
strongly
support
the
consolidation.
19
is
a
lot
and
try
to
look
to
remove
some
of
the
overlap,
duplication
and
also
kind
of
picking
up
on
something
that
was
alluded
to
be
real,
careful
about
how
fancy
we
get
on
our
computer
stuff,
because
there
are
people
with
older,
less
power
in
their
their
computers.
You
know
and
if
you're
going
to
sit
there
and
a
page
is
downloading
and
downloading
a
lot
of
sites,
you
look
at
have
a
a
light
version.
A
J
J
J
So
for
the
first
one
you
can
see
it's
the
same
as
it
was
in
91.
As
I
noted
it's
one
of
five
statements:
I
identified
that
discussed
the
natural
versus
the
built
environment.
My
suggestion
was
I
think
that
it
seems
like
those
are
maybe
ad
hoc
over
time.
I
know
this.
The
third
was,
and
it
might
be
good
to
wrap
them
all
together
into
kind
of
one,
more
robust
overall
statement
about
the
natural
environment
and
climate
change
and
how
we
feel
about
that.
N
N
J
Okay,
for
the
second
one
leave,
the
only
change
I
was
able
to
identify
was
the
addition
of
employment
into
fostering
the
Fulfillment
of
human
potential
through
a
number
of
resources.
My
recommendations
would
be
I
want
to
maybe
clarify
what
does
it
mean
for
service
to
just
be
available
to
a
group?
I
know
that's
consistent
with
more
sort
of
Equitable
languages.
Is
it
actually
achievable
versus
available,
and
is
there
also
better
language
we
can
use
for
emphasizing
Equity
rather
than
equality,
so
again,
just
kind
of
updating
it
for
more
best
practices
with
equity,
foreign.
J
N
N
J
Any
more
thoughts
on
that
one,
okay,
we
can
move
on
so
number
three
is
the
most
is
the
only
one
that
was
added
since
91.
This
is
the
one
added
in
2015.
I.
From
my
understanding,
this
was
the
one
that
was
really
trying
to
get
more
at
the
climate
change
component
and
sustainability.
So
again,
kind
of
repeating
my
thoughts
or
Stat
thoughts
from
the
first
one
I
think
we
can
work
that
into
a
more
robust
statement.
J
K
This
may
be
totally
extraneous,
we're
now,
starting
to
think
more
about
and
even
pay
for
or
integrate
I
mean
into
our
city
and
our
region,
Mental
Health,
Services
and
social
services
that
we're
realizing
are
as
important
as
you
fire
and
EMS
and
so
forth.
I,
don't
know
that
we
need
to
have
that
in
there,
but
I
just
want
to
throw
it
out
there.
It's
a
consideration.
J
J
A
C
So,
commissioner
Jones
you
might
be,
you
might
want
to
think
about
phrasing
it
in
terms
of
Behavioral,
Health
or
something
like
that,
and
that
aligns
with
a
lot
of
what's
happening
regionally
and
then
the
one
other
comment
I
had
is:
where
was
it?
It
says
to
respond?
The
current
statement
says
through
responsive
I,
wonder
if
it
should
say
through
culturally,
responsive
right
because
they're
again
going
back
to
the
equity
issue.
J
And
I
think
when
they
probably
originally
wrote
that
they
might
have
be,
they
might
have
been
referring
specifically
to
like
actual
response
times,
because
I
know
that's
in
our
Capital
facilities
element
but
I
think
there's
room
for
changing
that
when
you
know
this
is
the
vision,
it's
not
necessarily
about
technicalities
so
something
to.
We
could
definitely
discuss.
I
Very
much
in
favor
of
being
culturally
responsive
and
a
focus
on
Behavioral
Health,
but
I
do
feel
like
this
one.
In
particular,
we
should
just
talk
about
safety,
and
this
one
in
particular,
is
just
the
focus
on
physical
Safety
and
Security
of
residence,
employees
and
visitors
through
police
fire
and
Emergency
Medical
Aid
Services
I
I,
really
like
that
idea
of
having
a
Human
Services.
I
Another
bullet
point
for
specified
to
Human
Services
but,
for
example,
the
difference
between
a
culturally
responsive
police
and
fire
is
very
different
than
just
a
risk.
A
responsive
one
like
one
that,
actually,
you
know,
is
effect
efficient
and
effective,
and
I
I
feel
like
conflating.
Those
two
is
not
is
not
going
to
be
real
good
in
on
a
bullet
point
for
one
that
really.
You
know
this
one's
about
safety,
as
opposed
to
you
know.
I
J
And
this
could
be
a
good
example
of
if
we're
moving
towards
sort
of
buckets
or
topics
within
the
vision
that
there
could
be
one
just
generally
about
Human,
Services
and
safety,
and
then
keep
that
delineation
between
when
we're
speaking
more
specifically
about
technical
response
times
versus
the
cultural
responsiveness
or
sensitivities
of
those
Services
as
well.
So.
N
Commissioner
Anders
here
I,
don't
know
if,
if
my
comment
goes
more
to
this
one
or
to
what
commissioner
Robson
mentioned,
but
if
we're
talking
just
about
response
times
in
this
one,
if
we
want
to
talk
about
Safety
and
Security,
we
want
our
emergency
Personnel
to
be
more
than
just
responsive
but
proactive
and
present,
and
you
know
establishing
a
sense
of
community
with
the
folks
in
the
community.
So
if
we're
going
to
add
another
one
in
a
human
services
component,
we
should
think
about
that.
K
Commissioner,
Wester
back
here,
I
tend
to
agree
with
that.
Only
that's
going
to
come
back
to
your
point,
my
point
only
because
I
think
isn't
it
still
integrated
with
isn't
it
one
of
our
new
programs
like
Cahoots
and
radar
and
stuff,
like
that
still
part
of
the
law
enforcement
program,
but
it's
a
whole
separate
mental
health
Wing
as
it
were
our
department.
K
J
So
if
we
want
to
move
on
to
number
five,
this
was
another
one
of
the
ones
related
to
the
natural
environment.
This
one's
specifically
talking
about
conservation
of
scarce
natural
resources,
the
actions
of
residents,
businesses
and
public
institutions
again
staff
feedback
would
be.
This
could
become
part
of
a
more
robust
single
statement
about
the
environment
and
climate
change.
J
For
number
six,
this
one
is
related
to
the
transportation
system.
A
big
change
we've
started
discussing
with
you
is
about
the
level
of
service
update
to
be
more
of
a
people-focused
level
of
service
rather
than
Vehicles.
So
our
recommendation
would
be
to
revise
either
the
statement
or
the
theme
or
general
statement
to
more
kind
of
explicitly
talk
about
how
we
want
to
prioritize
multiple
modes
of
Transit
rather
than
just
single
occupancy
vehicles.
J
N
A
J
So
that's
kind
of
the
general
feedback
for
those
two,
both
seven
and
eight
looking
at
revising
the
language
again
that
language
is
32
years
old.
At
this
point,
is
there
better
language
we
could
use
specifically
on
eight
we're
pretty
much
removing
I
believe
to
the
middle
housing.
Comp
plan
proposed
amendments,
references
to
single-family,
residential
and,
ultimately
references
to
character,
but
trying
to
figure
out
what
a
better
term
is
is
still
kind
of
up
in
the
air.
H
Mr
kurd
thanks,
yeah
I
in
Remembering
and
reading
through
this
one
I
do
like
maybe
what
they
were
trying
to
go
for
at
the
end
here
with
accommodations
to
people
that
you
know
are
the
future
of
Bothell
too.
So,
while
the
vision
recognizes
our
past
history
and
our
current
State
I
do
like
the
focus
on
the
future
too,
that's
that
could
be
somewhat
of
the
sustainability
component
too,
but
if
we're
delegating
that
to
its
own.
J
For
the
next
one
looks
like
there
were
some
good
updates
for
the
2015
one
to
introduce
some
additional
modes
of
Transit,
not
just
bike
and
Transit
oriented,
but
also
liking
walking
and
a
variety
of
other
Transit
choices.
One
of
the
recommendations
staff
had
was
to
revise
Bothell
residents
to
a
more
inclusive
term.
That
involves
also
people
that
work
here.
People
that
come
to
here
to
visit
people
that
are
passing
through
they're,
just
kind
of
generally
opening
up
that
term
to
not
just
residents.
H
J
It
is
also
a
fairly
lengthy
statement.
We
could
look
at
potentially
condensing
that
down
a
little
bit,
but
in
general
this
one
I
was
thinking
about
more
making
sure
it
was
consistent
with
the
council
vision
and
the
goals
that
come
out
of
their
economic
revitalization
strategy
that
they'll
be
working
on.
K
I
just
want
to
agree,
you
get
kind
of
I
mean
it
makes
its
point,
but
it's
it's
probably
twice
as
long
as
it
needs
to
be
so
I
hear
you
on
that
I
agree
and
we'll
lose
people
reading
through
that
one.
Even
though
I
see
the
point
they're
trying
to
make
but
efficient
concise
would
be
great
and
we
could
probably
I'm
sure
updated.
Like
you
said.
H
This
is
commissioner,
kurd
I
also
want
to
just
reflect
a
little
bit
on
statement.
10,
some
of
the
verbiage.
That's
used,
sustainable
and
environmentally
sound
I
feel,
like
maybe
connotations
of
words,
have
changed
over
time,
and
this
is
why
it's
good
to
take
a
look
at
these
every
once
in
a
while,
because
to
me
sustainable
and
environmentally
sound
are
like
the
same
thing,
but
maybe
in
the
90s
that
wasn't
the
case
sustainable
when
you're
talking
about
businesses
might
be
interpreted
a
lot
differently
than
it
is
today.
J
We
do
have
some
prior
statements
about
maintaining
residential
neighborhoods
and
neighborhood
identity
that
could
be
tied
to
goals
and
policies
in
historic
preservation
element
which
we
are
looking
at.
Taking
a
bit
more
of
a
programmatic
approach
than
we
currently
have
kind
of
trying
to
actually
prioritize,
which
areas
do
we
really
care
about
the
most
otherwise
I
think
the
statement
could
be
a
little
bit
more
intentional
and
it
doesn't
really
refer
to
the
history
prior
to
basically,
the
lumber
industry
coming
in.
J
It
doesn't
refer
to
the
indigenous
population
and
then
perhaps
there's
some
revisions
to
this.
That
could
come
out
of
the
telling
bothells
full
story
project
where
maybe
we're
getting
more
at
the
intent
of
what
it
means
to
honor
the
past
and
pro
and
how
that
might
provide
a
perspective
for
the
future.
N
J
Great,
the
next
one
is
relating
to
Recreation
opportunities
referring
to
Recreation
programs.
That
was
one
of
the
things
added
since
91,
and
maintaining
our
parks
and
open
spaces
and
interlinking
trails,
staff
feedback
would
be
I
think
it
feels
a
little
overly
specific,
more
kind
of
almost
like
a
policy.
We
could
wrap
this
into
a
more
broad
statement
about
human
services.
D
I
Thank
you,
I
just
wanted
to
maybe
get
a
little
clarification
on.
Are
we
so
right
now
we're
specifically
looking
at
what's
number
row
15
here
right
about
the
diversive
active
and
passive
Recreation?
That's
the
one
we're
looking
at
yeah
correct,
and
you
were
thinking
about,
including
that
in
a
human
services
goal
kind
of
tying
that
in
I
guess
I
wanted
a
little
more
like.
How
do
you
see
those
two
things
connected
or
how
would
you?
I
J
Two
different
buckets
when
we
talk
about
things
that
the
city
does
to
help
benefit,
the
community
I
think
I.
Think
of
these
as
sort
of
enrichment
activities,
so
net
positives
of
what
are
the
things
we're
offering
in
terms
of
open
spaces
and
trails
that
contribute
to
a
healthy
and
happy
way
of
life
having
access
to
Nature.
J
So
we
again
when
we're-
and
this
is
all
up
for
debate
in
terms
of
you
know
what
kind
of
categories
do
you
want?
We
could
have
a
human
services
section
that
talks
about
things
like
safety
and
making
sure
that
some
of
our
response
services
are
culturally
sensitive.
We
could
have
another
section
that
just
talks
about
what
are
the
things
that
enrich
people's
lives
in
the
city
and
one
of
those
things
being
these
part
of
the
parks
and
open
spaces
and
Trail
connections.
We
have
and
things
like
that,.
I
Yeah
I,
like
that
idea
of
having
I
mean
we
would
certainly
hope
that
all
of
this
would
be
about
things
to
enrich
people's
lives,
but
I
I
do
like
that
idea
that
and
I'm
not
sure
how
you
would
phrase
it.
But
just
from
my
perspective,
it
does
seem
to
me
like
sensitive
to
the
needs
of
the
entire
Community.
I
Is
you
know,
culturally,
responsive
and
accessible
is
a
different
thing
than
providing
Open
Spaces
parks
and
interlocking
trails
and
I
particularly
like
this
is
maybe
just
a
sidebar,
the
idea
of
interlocking
trails
and
being
sort
of
at
the
Crux
of
activity
as
being
a
if
that's
what
they
originally
meant.
The
original
intent
of
this
is:
is
that
idea
of
being
a
transit
or
Recreation
Hub?
J
J
C
C
J
E
I
No
I
was
just
I'm,
I'm
still
puzzling,
through
what
the
original
intent
of
this
bullet
point
was
and
to
me,
it
just
really
sounds
like
they're
trying
to
preserve
Open
Spaces
in
the
Trails.
The
recreation
element
might
even
be
like
secondary
to
that
active
in
passive
Recreation.
That's
so
I'm
wondering
if
they're
just
talking
about
the
preservation
of
parks
and
trails,
which
is
certainly
very
important,
but
you
know,
as
we
are
as
a
commission
are
reflecting
on
this.
D
I'll
just
add,
as
I'm
reading
through
it
is
I'm
guessing
that
they
were
trying
to
have
a
vision,
statement
that
related
to
the
parks
and
open
space
element
and
the
prose
plan.
And
so
it
it
kind
of
reads
like
a
goal
and
doesn't
really
necessarily
say
what
we
want:
the
parks
or
Open
Spaces
or
trails
to
be
like.
And
so
maybe
that's
an
opportunity
to
be
more
specific
about
a
vision
for
what
those
experiences
are
versus.
Just
providing
A
diversity
of.
J
J
As
some
of
the
language
felt
a
little
bit
dated
and
that
I
think
we
can
look
at
revising
some
of
that
per
the
racial
Equity
toolkit,
we
ultimately
adopt
and
I
just
had
some
examples
of
some
of
the
language.
We
typically
see
in
more
of
the
more
modern
plans,
so
that
could
just
be
when
we
look
at
with
our
consultant,
through
the
lens
of
our
Equity
analysis
and
toolkit,
making
sure
we're
using
proper
terminology.
N
I
think
I
think
that's
a
that's.
A
good
idea
and
individuals
and
families
in
need
is,
is
definitely
outdated.
Language
but
I
think
the
language
some
of
the
language
that
we're
that
is
used
as
an
example
here
might
be
a
little
bit
more
exclusive
than
we
want,
because
when
we
think
about
people
who
need
physical,
physical
access
or
might
need
these
types
of
services,
they
don't
necessarily
come
from
historically
disadvantaged
communities,
and
we
want.
We
want
to
include
everybody
so.
N
A
J
A
H
J
All
right
then
skipping
over
17,
since
we
talked
about
it
earlier.
I
had
a
similar
comment
on
number
18
talks
again
about
Services
Municipal
Services.
It
is
specific
to
annexation.
So,
as
a
deputy
director
Winfield
mentioned
earlier,
it's
likely
that
this
was
there
to
tie
into
the
annexation
element,
but
again,
don't
think
that
that
means
that
we
can't
wrap
that
into
a
more
General
point
about
services
or
some
of
those
more
technical
Municipal
services.
C
Commissioner
Jones
all
of
these
statements
or
segments
of
statements,
you
know
sound
wonderful,
given
some
of
the
comments
that
we
said
about.
Are
they
Vision,
Visionary
or
goals?
What
in
here
is
distinctive
about
the
city
of
Bothell,
because
I
would
think
that
in
your
vision
statement
you
want,
we
want
something,
that's
distinctive,
that
folks.
Read
it
and
say:
oh,
that's,
Bothell
that
doesn't
look
like
kenmore's
vision,
statement
or
bellevue's
vision
statement.
So
what
is
it?
J
C
E
K
Chris
oysterback
I
mean
I'll,
concur
absolutely
and
yeah
I'm,
an
employee
too
so
I'm
in
the
tank
right.
But
but
it's
true,
it's
I've
said
for
years.
I
know
the
city
has
a
great
partnership
with
Cascadia
and
UW
Bothell,
but
I've
often
said
we
should
be
doing
as
even
more
to
collaborate
with
them
and
knit
them
into
the
community
and
physically
knit
them
in
like
with
that
Pathways
and
bikeways,
and
things
like
that
that
we
would
discuss
as
Planning
Commission
so
I
do.
Think.
K
I
I
You
know,
have
the
way
that
Bothell
is
connected,
spiritually
and
physically,
with
by
opening
those
Pathways
through
the
trail
and
more
integration
with
the
students
and
things.
I.
Think
that
that's
something
that
we
should
really
hit
on
the
trails
and
the
riverways
and
how
all
of
that
is
not
just
in
one
not
separated
into
one
little
Haven
of
Bothell.
But
we
should
try
to
integrate
it
throughout
the
entire
city
so
that
we
all
have
access
to
the
really
great
things
in
our
community.
B
A
B
J
To
commissioner
Jones
on
the
sort
of
what
makes
us
distinct,
I
think
that
could
be
a
really
fun
exercise
through
the
summer
engagement
process
of
just
asking
people.
What
do
you
like
the
most
about
Bothell?
What
is
special
about
it
to
you?
Why
do
you
want
to
be
here?
Why
did
you
choose
to
live
here
and
that
could
really
help
us
feed
into
what
we
end
up
drafting
for
the
vision
or
The
Guiding
principles.
N
A
Other
comments
well
I
think
you've
had
an
interesting,
hopefully
fun,
but
definitely
challenging
activity
ahead
of
you,
I
I
would
kind
of
say
that
two
concepts
in
particular
sustainability
and
Equity
have
changed
a
lot
since
these
earlier
drafts
and
what
people
mean
by
those
words
now
even
in
a
couple
of
years,
is
different,
let
alone
going
back
to
the
first
draft,
so
just
because
the
words
are
in
there,
we
may
be
thinking
about
a
different
thing
than
they
did
then
so
look
carefully
at.
That
would
be
my
suggestion.
A
K
A
True,
so
well
we're
working
through
the
details
on
that,
as
I
indicated,
we
did
have
an
ad
hoc
committee
formed
at
the
last
meeting
to
draft
a
statement
from
the
commission
to
the
Council
on
Downtown
parking
management.
Commissioners,
westerbeck
and
Anders
did
work
together
on
this
and
proposed
A
draft
copy
for
us.
K
This
commissioner
westerbeck
so
I'd
hesitate
to
read
the
whole
thing
because
I
I
know
you
guys
can
do
that
on
your
own,
and
it
sounds
like
I
I'm
proposing
this
idea
that
we
can
talk
about
the
principles
in
the
letter
and
then,
although
it's
an
ad
hoc
committee,
I,
would
want
to
get
your
feedback.
There
are
elements
we
think
we
missed,
or
it's
written
in
a
way
that
you
would
like
to
change.
K
I
think
we're
open
to
editing
heavy
editing
if
necessary,
people
starting
from
scratch,
if
you
prefer,
but
I
tried
to
sort
of
or
I
should
say
we
sorry,
it's
very
much.
A
combination
of
us
editing
together,
I
was
thinking
about
commissioner
Jones,
and
she
said
you
know.
Why
are
people
coming
here
and
why
do
we
have
this?
You
know
perception
of
parking
problems
so
setting
this
setting
the
stage
as
it
were.
Why
are
people
coming?
K
We
have
these
wonderful
Traditions,
the
Fourth
of
July
parade
Sarah's
markets
that
everyone's
enjoying
the
summer
series
and
that
we're
attracting
people
and
We've.
We
have
almost
a
20
year
old
plan
now
to
grow
the
downtown
and
we're
seeing
that
come
to
fruition
the
last
decade
or
so,
especially,
and
so
it's
bringing
people
here
they
want
to
be
here
and
then
so.
We
characterize
it
as
bothell's
having
a
moment
and
then
we
get
into
people
come
here.
K
A
lot
of
people
come
here
in
their
cars
and
they
have
this
perception
that
there's
a
parking
issue.
But
we've
known
for
years
that
going
back
to
2016-17
council
was
was
initiating
some
parking
studies
and
there
was
some
discussion.
I
remember
going
to
Council
meetings
that
they
discussed,
quantifying
the
parking
and
how
to
use
it
best
how
to
manage
it,
how
to
manage
it,
and
if
we
could
afford
parking
management,
then,
and
it
was
tabled
because
they
said
it
costs
more
than
it
would
bring
in.
But
now
we're
thinking
about
it.
K
Sort
of
as
a
in
this
letter.
Is
it
our
sort
of
responsibility
as
a
as
a
community
to
manage
this
resource
to
to
continue
the
the
prosperity
of
the
city
of
Bothell
and
continue
to
help
people
come
here,
so
they
can
enjoy
themselves
and
spend
money
and
it's
a
community
service
for
our
own
residents
as
well
as
visitors.
K
So
that
idea
and
then
sort
of
just
getting
into
there's
a
lot
of
there's
an
enormous
amount
of
value
in
the
public
parking
resource
in
the
city
of
Bothell,
and
it
literally
has
a
dollar
value
and
as
a
city
are
we
are.
We
stewarding
that
well
I
I
live
just
a
couple
blocks
away:
there's
a
car
with
a
orange
sticker
on
it,
so
they
did
finally
ticket
this
car.
It's
been
there
for
almost
three
weeks,
there's
literally
leaves
and
dirt
and
stuff-
and
this
happens
all
the
time
on
my
street
183rd.
K
K
Yeah
see
it
as
a
resource
that
should
be
shared
and
husband
did
it
as
an
old-fashioned
word.
I
know
but,
like
you
know,
used
responsibly
so
that
you
know
I've
referenced
last
week
the
Donald
shoot
the
parking
Guru
and
in
his
whole
thing
and
his
his
long
book
and
he's
got
those
three
tenants,
but
one
of
the
things
he
emphasizes
over
and
over
is
when
you
manage
parking.
There
should
always
be
about
15
minimum
available
so
that
someone
can
find
a
spot.
K
They
don't
have
to
Circle
all
day
long,
whether
that
requires
you
know
paid
or
permit
or
whatever.
We
might
not
need
to
get
any
permits
and
so
forth,
but
you
know
for
and
then
there's
a
concern
about.
You
know
people
moving
to
Apartments.
They
don't
want
to
pay
for
the
spot
or
there
wasn't
one
available.
So
how
can
we
make
sure
that
when
someone
does
come
and
they
want
to
enjoy
our
city
they
can
they
don't?
K
A
So,
commissioner,
comments
on
this,
this
is
important,
we've
all
or
I.
Think
all
of
us
have
spoken
to
it
at
one
time
or
another.
On
the
other
hand,
there's
not
a
Time
critical
date.
It's
not
deadline
on
it.
So
our
I
guess
our
choices
are
address.
It
address
it
at
this
meeting
and
yeah
complete
it
or,
if
folks
want
to
take
the
time
to
to
read
I
I,
think
Professor
westerbeck
is
probably
correct.
A
A
E
E
B
Erica
stepson
here
and
lots
of
gratitude
towards
commissioner
Anders
and
commissioner
westerbeck
for
putting
together
a
letter
that
is
very
clear
and
colorful
and
I
think
we'll
evoke
a
lot
of
sympathy
from
the
people
who
hear
it,
because
it
reflects
the
frustration
that
we've
heard
from
a
lot
of
people.
I
really
appreciate
that
going
through.
B
One
thing
that
I
might
add
is
a
sentence
saying
something
along
the
lines
if
we
call
for
this
policy
to
be
compassionate
towards
people
who
live
in
their
vehicles
and
thoughtful
about
the
risks
of
disproportionate
enforcement
by
race,
income
or
neighborhood.
But
I
do
like
the
fact
that
we
are
looking
at
policies
outside
of
the
city
and
bringing
in
those
named
examples
of
different
policies,
and
it
shows
that
this
is
a
approach.
That's
worked
before
and
should
work
in
Bothell
as
well.
So
I'm
really
excited
and
thank
you.
K
H
Thanks
this
is
a
great
letter,
thanks
for
taking
the
time
to
put
this
together.
I
everything
resonates
really
really
loudly
and
clearly.
I
really
appreciate
that
you
have
taken
things
from
public
comment
and
literally
put
them
into
the
letter,
which
is
just
awesome.
That's
one
way
that
we
can
listen
and
reflect
on
people
who
take
the
time
to
come
and
talk
to
us.
H
C
I
K
I
I
did
a
couple
times
it's
about
three,
maybe
just
lower
a
little
over
three
and
to
that
I
have
to
wonder
if
this
is
important
enough
and
we're
Planning
Commission.
Do
we
get
maybe
a
tiny
slice?
You
know
five
minutes
of
a
meeting
one
night
not
just
have
to
do
public
comment
or
are
we
just
public
commenters.
A
I
K
I
K
Response
to
be
clear,
I,
don't
think
this
should
be
more
than
about
what
it
is
now
I.
Think
being
concise
is
actually
really
important,
but
I'm
just
saying
like
if
they
said,
there's
an
A
B
whatever
in
the
in
the
council
meeting
and
like
it's
going
to
take
about
five
minutes
and-
and
they
might
have
a
you
know
that
five
minutes
includes
them,
asking
a
question
or
two
or
discussing
it,
but
I
agree.
Ours
should
stay
around
that,
but
I.
Don't
necessarily
think
that
Planning
Commission
should
be
buzzed
at
three
minutes.
I
J
A
N
Yeah
I
don't
know
that
we're
ready
to
approve
anything
yet
I
think
particularly
in
I,
feel
like
we
did
touch
on
the
value
and
the
cost.
But
we
didn't
bring
it
out
quite
as
strong,
and
in
doing
that
we
might
end
up
cutting
down
some
of
the
language
anyway,
because
we
probably
have
softly
said
it
a
couple
of
times.
But
if
we
put
it
right
out
there,
we
don't
need
to
use
so
many
words.
Probably.
A
A
Looking
at
our
bylaws
for
a
minute
and
the
reason
I'm
looking
for
them
is
I
believe
that
Hawk
committees
can
have
an
additional
member.
You
can't
have
a
quorum
but
okay,
not
to
exceed
three
minutes,
so
article
9
of
our
bylaws
says
we
can
have
and
where
I'm
going.
Commissioner
Robson
is
perhaps
you'd
want
to
assist
in
revising
a
draft
for
adoption
at
the
next
meeting,
because
we
can
have
three
members
on
and
on
ad
hoc
committee.
A
B
Thank
you
so
much
deputy
director,
Mitchell
I,
do
wonder
if
we
might
be
able
to
have
both
of
the
Commissioners
who
wrote
the
letter,
give
the
presentation-
and
perhaps
this
could
help
us
get
around
the
time
limit,
but
if
not
I
think
it
would
be
really
good
to
maybe
break
it
out.
Have
one
commissioner
read
the
first
few
paragraphs
and
the
second
commissioner
say:
okay,
now
that
we've
defined
the
problem,
here's
the
solution
and
I
think
the
change
of
person
in
the
middle
of
this
would
just
really
like
cancel
up
and
say:
hey.
K
A
K
N
D
A
Foreign,
but
we
I'm
struggling
with,
is
do
we
need
a
motion
for
this,
or
should
we
just
proceed?
What
we're
discussing
is
an
action
where
we'd
add
them.
Member
to
the
ad
hoc
committee,
you
would
receive
the
comments
that
we
made
at
this
meeting,
revise
it
and
then
bring
it
back
to
the
May
17th
meeting
for
adoption
and
submittal
to
council.
A
A
I'm
sorry,
I'm,
an
old
bureaucrat
and
process
will
get
you
if
you
miss
it,
sometimes
so
all
right.
Well,
thank
you
for
your
hard
work
on
that
I
think
it
was
a
good
discussion
on
the
commission.
It's
an
issue
that
we're
all
interested
in
so
look
forward
to
bringing
it
to
conclusion.
Thank
you
all
so
with
that,
is
there
any
other
unfinished
business.
D
Quick
I
just
wanted
to
get
a
few
things
on
your
radar.
Unfortunately,
I
don't
have
the
house
bill
or
Senate
Bill
numbers,
but
some
things
that
we've
been
paying
attention
to
that
have
passed
out
of
the
house
and
are
now
waiting
for
the
Governor's
signature.
Middle
housing
has
some
has
passed.
I
do
know,
that's
HB,
1110,
there's
another
one.
That's
passed
that
included
some
cipa
exemptions
in
it.
So
pretty
much.
D
So,
thankfully
we
already
have
some
middle
housing
started:
we're
starting
we're
waiting
to
see
what
actually
gets
signed
by
the
governor
and
then
we'll
be
creating
a
matrix
to
kind
of
understand,
what's
required
by
the
state
State.
What
did
Planning
Commission
recommend
to
city
council?
What's
in
our
code?
D
The
last
thing
I'll
add
is:
we
are
having
the
middle
housing
community
Forum
on
May
3rd.
Sorry,
we
canceled
Planning
Commission
for
that,
but
it
ended
up
being
the
best
night
for
council
members
and
other
folks,
and
so
thanks
for
being
flexible,
but
that
will
be
in
this
room
from
6
to
8.
Pm,
we'll
have
a
presentation
on
what
is
Middle,
housing
and
and
what's
being
proposed.
D
I
think
some
of
the
tone
of
that
meeting
will
change
with
the
new
legislation
passing
because
it's
a
little
bit
less
of
will
we
pass
middle
housing
to
how
will
we
comply
with
state
law
and
then
we're
planning
on
having
a
small
facilitated
conversations
with
folks
about
middle
housing?
We
really
want
community
members
to
hear
from
each
other
and
learn
about
what
their
neighbors
may
be
interested
in
and
have
more
of
an
open
dialogue
between
folks
who
may
be
on
different
sides
of
the
table
and
and
then
provide
feedback
that
way.
D
The
survey
we
also
will
have
an
online
survey
we'll
have
paper
surveys
available
at
the
meeting,
but
it'll
launch
the
same
day
as
the
the
Forum
and
it'll
be
open
for
two
weeks.
We
just
finalized
the
flyer.
That's
going
out
to
all
addresses
residential
addresses
in
Bothell,
so
we'll
forward
that
on
to
you
all,
so
you
have
a
copy
of
it.
D
It's
two-sided
one
side's
about
Metal
housing,
one
side's
about
a
pedestrian
survey.
That's
coming
out!
So
probably
two
surveys
and
things:
that'll
be
interest
of
planning
commissions.
So
please
make
sure
to
let
your
neighbors
know
and-
and
let
people
know
how
they
can
be
involved
so
that
in
case
the
mail
doesn't
make
it
to
them
or
they
see
something
from
the
city
and
throw
it
away
that
they
know
was
important
and
should
participate.
So
we'll
be
sharing
more
with
you
all.
As
it's
available.
B
Thank
you,
chair
Sarah
Gustafson,
here
last
Thursday,
the
13th.
There
was
another
middle
housing,
walk
that
started
at
City
Hall
and
went
through
lower
Maywood
and
I
have
not
been
on
one
of
these
blocks
for
about
a
year.
I
think
it
was
really
successful.
Deputy
director
Winchell
was
there
director
Greenspan.
Was
there
senior
planner
Boyd
led
the
presentation
in
the
walk.
B
The
first
takeaway
that
I
had
from
this
walk
is
that
people
really
really
enjoy
it.
There
were
requests
for
even
more
walks
and
perhaps
taking
this
concept
to
different
cities,
because
people
are
curious,
what's
going
on
in
Finn,
Hill
or
Shoreline,
or
any
other
place
that
might
have
missing
middle
I
think
this
is
basically
the
legacy
of
commissioner
Kurt
and
bhop
bringing
this
forward.
It
has
been
probably
the
best
or
one
of
the
best
Educational
Tools
about
Metal
housing.
B
Oh
okay,
interesting
and
I
think
one
question
that
did
come
up
that
I
feel
needs
to
be
addressed
at
every
single
public
meeting
is
the
distinction
between
the
five-story
potential
of
the
downtown
transition
zone
units
and
the
overall
middle
housing.
Somebody
came
in
with
a
picture
and
said:
is
this
related
to
the
five-story
building
and
then
we
talked
about
it
and
we
introduced
a
bit
about
the
Drews
and
then
one
person
said
that
okay
I'll
send
back
my
five-story
sign
because
I
I
don't
think
I
need
that
sign
up
anymore.
B
K
I'll
just
add
to
commissioner
Gustafson:
I
was
at
a
event
this
morning,
where
there
was
a
Kirkland
council,
member
and
she'd
heard
about
the
origins
of
the
walk
with
Bob,
and
she
said
she
wanted
to
talk
with
some
of
us
about
creating
one
in
Kirkland.
So
there's
there
is
demand
for
doing
that
in
other
cities
because
they
realize
it's
a
powerful
tool,
so
you're
right
award
spreading
is
kind
of
fun.
A
Well
and
I
think
from
a
public
involvement
standpoint
it
it
is
effective
to
get
people
out.
You
know
sitting
sitting
behind
this
Podium
this
you
know
up
here
and
have
people
being
out.
There
is
different
from
being
out
walking
and
conversational
and
I
think
it's
it's
a
use
when
the
Tool
can
be
used.
I
think
it's
a
very
powerful
tool.