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A
A
A
Okay,
well,
we've
hit
the
magic
400
mark.
I
think
we
should
begin
again.
This
is
a
we're
fortunate
to
have
american
sign
language
interpretation
tonight.
I
want
to
thank
the
interpreters
as
well
as
simultaneous
english
spanish
interpretation.
A
A
A
We
have
a
deep
bench:
a
diversity
of
presenters
today
from
boulder
county
town
of
superior
city
of
louisville,
the
contractor
drc
and
our
consultant
who's,
leading
the
operations
anders
environmental.
This
has
been
a
huge
team
effort.
I
can't
say
enough
for
all
the
incredible
collaboration
and
partnering,
not
only
with
our
local
partners
but
with
the
state
and
with
fema
to
to
bring
this
project
to
fruition.
A
So
we're
really
excited
to
be
able
to
present
to
you
today,
I'm
going
to
just
remind
presenters
to
speak
slowly,
so
our
interpreters
can
keep
up
with
us
and
you
can
digest
all
the
information
we
have
for
you
before
we
jump
into
the
program
about
the
debris
removal
program.
I
just
want
to
take
this
opportunity
to
address
one
issue
that
I
have
been
hearing
a
lot
about.
A
That
I
know
is
causing
a
lot
of
anxiety
and
stress
and
that's
around
additional
living
expenses
and
your
insurance
policies
ale.
As
you
know,
I
want
to
just
clarify
two
pieces
of
information.
Some
misinformation
out
there.
First,
there
is
no
dollar
maximum
amount
in
your
additional
living
expenses.
If
your
insurance
company,
your
adjuster,
is
telling
you
that
please
contact
the
division
of
insurance
to
make
a
complaint,
because
that
is
not
allowed
in
the
state
of
colorado.
A
A
Another
example
of
that
is
there's
currently
a
bill
in
the
legislature
to
require
insurance
companies
to
provide
a
minimum
of
24
months
of
additional
living
expenses
with
two
six-month
extensions
extensions
up
to
36
months
in
in
the
testimony
for
that
bill.
The
insurance
industry
has
not
opposed
that
requirement,
so
we
feel
very
confident
that
the
insurance
industry
understands
that
it
takes
significantly
longer
than
12
months
to
rebuild
and
to
recover.
A
So
please,
if
you're
feeling
that
pressure
or
getting
that
from
your
insurance
company,
please
let
us
know,
let
myself
know
let
the
division
of
insurance
know.
We
don't
want
that
to
weigh
on
you
unnecessarily
so
with
that.
I
want
to
begin
the
debris,
removal
program,
presentation,
we're
going
to
have
presentations
from
the
county,
the
city's
town
and
the
contractor,
and
so
at
the
end
of
the
presentation,
we
will
open
up
the
chat
to
take
your
questions.
A
A
B
Thank
you
gary
and
my
thanks
to
everyone
on
the
call
for
joining
us
tonight
for
this
important
town
hall
meeting.
As
gary
said,
I
am
jeff
national
director
of
public
works
for
boulder
county
and
I
will
be
introducing
you
to
our
team.
C
Words
yeah
evening
jeff
thanks.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
hosting
the
meeting
tonight
know
that
a
lot
of
people
have
been
waiting
for
this.
We
also
have
a
town
board
members
that
are
listening
to
the
meeting,
as
well
as
other
staff.
D
C
To
thank
residents
for
the
patient
as
we
work
through
the
process
to
get
to
this
point,
it's
taken
a
lot
of
time,
a
lot
of
work,
a
lot
of
effort
from
a
lot
of
people
and,
like
gary
said,
I
want
to
thank
everyone.
Who's
been
working
so
hard
to
get
to
this
point.
B
E
Thank
you,
jeff
echo,
the
same
thoughts
that
everyone
has
said
so
far,
and
I
can't
tell
you
how
pleased
I
am
to
be
in
at
this
meeting
tonight.
We've
been
looking
forward
to
this
for
a
long
time
working
really
hard
to
get
to
this
point
I
want
to
especially
thank
as
gary
did
the
the
state
and
federal
entities
who
have
helped
with
funding
for
this
program.
Our
congress
congressional
delegation
has
helped
a
lot.
E
Fema
is
doing
a
90
reimbursement
on
this
program,
which
is
not
typical
and
the
state
is
covering
five
percent
of
that
of
the
costs,
and
that
has
enabled
the
cities
and
the
county
and
town
to
be
able
to.
I
believe,
fund
more
of
these
ineligible,
if
you
will
costs
so
that
we
can
get
all
of
this
debris
taken
care
of
quickly
expeditiously,
because
this
is
a
really
important
milestone
for
this
community.
E
So
I
too
can't
wait
to
get
this
work
started
and
done.
So.
Thank
you.
Everyone
and
I
look
forward
to
hearing
from
the
community
and
thanks
cameron
for
being
here
too.
B
F
Hi
everyone,
my
name,
is
luke
monsky
and
I
will
be
the
operations
manager
for
the
marshall
fire
debris
removal
program.
Next
slide,
I
will
work.
I
work
for
andrew's
environmental
work
instruction
management
business
based
out
of
boulder
next
slide,
andrews
environmental
specializes
in
management
of
environmental
remediation
projects.
F
F
I
also
have
extensive
experience
managing
multiple
disciplines
on
large
construction
projects
to
create
a
close,
cohesive
team.
Next
slide,
please.
My
first
project
was
hurricane
katrina,
which
was
a
very
large
project.
If
people
remember
that
one,
I
also
was
fortunate
enough
to
work
for
boulder
county
on
the
past
two
disasters,
the
four
mile
fire
and
then
the
subsequent
flood
in
2013..
F
I
was
also
the
operations
manager
for
one
of
the
prime
contractors
during
the
campfire
cleanup
in
paradise.
California,
our
team
removed
debris
from
4
500
properties
and
completed
this
work
before
any
of
the
other
contractors.
So
I
have
an
in-depth
understanding
of
how
to
run
an
efficient
debris
removal
operation.
F
Lastly,
I'd
like
to
thank
boulder
county
for
bringing
me
on
board.
I
live
in
boulder
county.
I
just
evacuated
for
the
end
car
fire.
So
you
know
forgive
me.
My
office
was
disassembled
reassembled,
so
I
can
kind
of
understand
some
people's
pain
when
it
comes
to
all
of
the
evacuations
and
the
chaos
that
it
causes
to
our
all
of
our
lives.
F
B
G
G
So
hopefully
we
can
import
some
or
instill
some
confidence
in
our
ability
to
perform
this.
This
mission,
we
look
forward
to
working
with
the
communities
and
with
luke
and
his
team
to
to
efficiently
and
effectively
get
this
project
done
next
slide,
please,
oh,
that
was
not
my
slide.
B
Oh,
it
looks
like
we
might
have
the
drc
deck
slides
out
of
order.
Maybe
we
could
take
a
look
at
that,
while
we're
going
through
another
phase
of
the
debris
removal
program-
natalie.
If
you
could
maybe
look
at
that,
we'll
go
ahead
and
move
on
to
cody
wilson
little
scrum's
component,
and
maybe
we
can
come
back
to
mark's
component.
So
sorry
about
that
mark
we'll
try
to
get
your
slides
on
deck
as
soon
as
possible.
B
H
H
Our
division,
when
disaster
strikes
is
mobilized
under
emergency
support
function,
20,
which
is
debris
management.
So
we
have
been
on
the
ground
from
day
one
doing
working
side
by
side
with
the
assessor's
office
and
their
damage
assessment
teams
to
assess
the
debris
and
get
a
handle
on
how
much
is
out
there
and
how
we
can
best
clean
it
up
and
get
moving
forward,
and
we
do
understand
that
that
you
know
we
want
to
get
this
done
as
efficiently
and
effectively
as
possible
as
well.
H
So
we're
excited
for
the
team
that
is
here
that
is
working
on
it
and
just
really
really
looking
forward
to
getting
this
work
on
the
ground
or
getting
it
moving
and
then
getting
going.
So
what
you'll
see
here,
and
actually
I'd
like
to
go
through
a
little
bit
of
what
I'm
going
to
be
presenting
here?
H
First,
I'm
going
to
start
with
what
you
can
expect
from
debris:
removal,
the
sequence
of
events,
next
steps
in
the
process
as
we're
sitting
right
now,
the
schedule
of
events
and
then
the
costs
associated
with
this
project.
So
this
first
slide
here
is
kind
of
a
before
and
after
of
one
of
the
sites.
Actually
I
believe
this
is
from
superior.
H
I
can't
remember
remember
exactly
where
this
picture
was
taken,
but
the
the
picture
on
the
left
is
before,
and
this
is
obviously
with
all
of
the
debris
from
the
fire
just
sitting
there
waiting
to
be
taken
out.
The
picture
on
the
right
is
afterwards
you'll
you'll
notice
that
the
site
is
is
in
a
state
called,
what's
called
rough
graded,
so
that's
that's
essentially
what
you'll
see
after
this
ppdr
program
is
complete
on
your
property.
H
H
Then
they'll
do
natural
grading
of
the
debris
site
if
the,
if
you
as
the
homeowner,
the
property
owner,
doesn't
plan
to
rebuild
right
away.
If
you
do
plan
to
be
rebuild
right
away,
the
contractor
will
do
sloughing
of
the
basement
holes
and
then
install
osha
compliant
safety,
fencing
you
can.
You
can
be
assured
that
during
this
process
there
will
be
proper
separation
and
handling
and
disposal
of
all
materials.
We
you
know,
as
as
resource
conservation
division.
We
have
a
goal
of
of
reducing
our
impacts
to
the
landfill.
H
H
There
will
be
continual
community
air
monitoring
to
confirm
that
engineering
controls
are
effective
for
this
project
as
well
as
eros
erosion
control
measures
will
be
installed
in
accordance
with
all
of
the
stormwater
pollution
protection
plans
that
are
in
place.
H
H
So
here's
some
more
pictures
just
of
what
you
all
as
homeowners
as
property
owners
can
expect
from
the
debris
removal
program
the
top
left.
There
is
kind
of
the
beginning
of
the
the
removal
and
then
you
move
over
to
the
top
right.
That's
getting
rid
of
that
basement
the
foundation
work
and
then
those
bottom
two
photos
are
kind
of
what
you
can
expect
from
the
end
product
there
next
slide.
Please.
H
So
tree
tagging
a
certified
arborist
has
begun
tagging
trees
already
they've
gone
out,
at
least
into
the
first
runway
of
houses,
and
I'd
just
like
to
explain
to
you
what
those
colors
mean,
because
you
might
see
some
some
painting
on
your
trees,
starting
with
the
left,
we
have
light
blue,
which
is
marked
as
a
hazard
tree
and
that
can
be
removed
at
any
time.
It's
not
a
wiener
or
a
hanger,
or
anything
that
that
is
super
dangerous,
so
it
can
be
removed
at
any
time
during
the
debris.
H
Removal,
a
white
tree
that
with
a
white
marking,
is
a
tree.
That's
been
requested
to
remain
intact.
That
means
that
the
arborist
has
determined
that
tree
will
live
and
it
should
be
should
remain
in
place.
H
There
we
go.
Oh
can
we
move
back
one?
Thank
you
so
yellow
that
means
that
the
arborist
couldn't
determine
who
which
property
that
that
tree
was
on,
for
whatever
reason
so
that'll
be
marked
as
yellow
and
maybe
further
investigated.
Red
means
it's
a
dangerous
tree.
It's
a
hangar,
meaning
it's
hanging
over
the
property
or
leaning
onto
the
property
or
onto
some
piece
of
that.
That
makes
it
a
danger
to
the
debris,
removal,
crews,
those
will
be
removed
right
away.
H
H
Yes,
yes,
certainly,
so
if
you
can
go
back
to
the
tree
slide
so
on,
the
upper
left
is
a
picture
of
a
qr
code
and
all
the
all
the
trees
are
also
being
tagged
with
this
specific
code
to
to
mark
they
have
been
assessed
by
the
arborist.
Did
you
want
me
to
say
anything
else
about
that?
Gary.
B
B
H
All
right
so
at
this
point
in
the
project
here
are
our
next
steps
for
getting
the
ppdr
off
the
ground.
Homeowners.
H
You
can
opt
into
the
ppdr
program
up
until
the
time
that
the
crews
commence
work
on
your
runway,
and
I
know
you
all
have
questions
about
the
runways
we're
working
on
finalizing
that
we
should
have
something
out
this
week.
I
imagine
so
you
can
opt
in
up
until
your
runway
has
begun,
and
you
should
have
plenty
of
time
to
to
determine
that.
Homeowners
will
be
contacted
to
collect
final
information.
H
That
information
includes
the
homeowner's
preference
to
remove
non-damaged
or
destroyed
driveway
and
other
of
the
ineligible
concrete
flat
work
like
patios
and
private
sidewalks.
As
mentioned
previously.
H
This
piece
is
required
for
fema
reimbursement
of
the
ppdr
project
costs
and
for
homeowners,
who
have
already
received
debris.
Removal
proceeds
the
county
will
contact
you
directly
to
collect
the
amount
of
those
received,
proceeds
so
be
sure
to
keep
that
money
in
a
separate
fund
or
an
account
or
just
you
know,
know
how
much
that
your
insurance
company
paid
you
for
that
debris.
Removal
work
for
homeowners
who
have
not
yet
received
the
debris.
Your
debris
removal
proceeds.
H
The
county
will
work
directly,
as
stated
above
with
your
insurer,
to
collect
those
proceeds
from
that
assignment
of
benefits,
form
that
that
gives
us
the
county.
The
authority
to
do
that.
H
Traffic
control
systems
will
be
in
place
will
be
placed
on
major
truck
routes
to
keep
everyone
safe
and
to
keep
everything
flowing
efficiently
during
the
project
and
erosion
control
measures
will
be
installed
as
well
to
protect
groundwater
and
other
sources
next
slide.
H
The
schedule
currently
drc
will
begin
individual
site
inspections
in
preparation
for
debris,
removal
efforts.
This
includes
verification
of
right
of
entry
forms
for
accuracy,
making
sure
that
we're
on
the
correct
property
reviewing
the
homeowner
requests
for
items
to
preserve.
H
If
there
were
any
requests
made
to
preserve
items
or
do
any
of
that,
sifting
work
that
may
not
have
been
completed
by
those
volunteer
organizations
that
were
doing
that
earlier
on
conducting
a
360
degree
walk
of
the
property
to
inspect
for
potential
hazards,
something
that
is
done
before
every
site
is
started
as
individual
site
inspections
are
completed,
the
prioritization
list
will
be
finalized
and
released,
and
that's
a
as
I
said,
we're
working
on
that.
Currently,
we
should
have
something
before
the
end
of
the
week.
H
H
The
debris
removal
program
is
expected
to
take
approximately
four
months
to
complete
and
the
cost
for
all
of
this.
Overall,
the
cost
of
this
program
is
approximately
60
million
dollars
participating
property
owners.
You,
you
will
contribute
the
amount
of
money
dedicated.
A
Yep
cody,
sorry,
I
just
got
an
email
from
a
participant
who
says
the
slides
have
been
minimized,
so
people
who
are
viewing
this
cannot
see
that.
So
can
the
moderator
check
with
the
slides-
and
maybe
so
sorry
about
that,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
everyone
can
see
this.
I
And
gary
that
would
be
a
setting
on
the
individual
viewers
computer.
We
are
showing
the
slides
as
large
as
possible
with
an
asl
interpreter
and
cody
on
screen
small.
A
J
Just
we
can
add
that
we
will
have
this
presentation
posted
immediately
after
this
meeting
to
our
project
website.
H
Yeah,
I
know
there's
settings
in
zoom
where
you
can
kind
of
switch
your
screens
and
for
whatever
reason
andrew.
When
you
just
spoke
it
it
switched
mine.
So
I
had
to
switch
it
back.
H
Anyhow,
so
yeah
participating
property
owners.
You
will
contribute
the
amount
of
money
dedicated
in
your
homeowner
insurance
policy
for
debris.
Removal
to
this
project,
uninsured
and
underinsured
homeowners
will
be
covered
through
this
project
as
well,
and
I
believe
that
is,
we
have
one
last
slide.
I
think
from
my
presentation
yeah.
If
you
have
there's
additional
resources,
if
you
have
any
questions,
you
can
email
debri
at
boulder,
county
dot,
org,
and
then
we
have
the
following
web
pages
for
all
of
our
debris.
B
B
I
just
wanted
to
add
one
more
thing
before
we
begin
taking
your
questions,
I
want
to
let
you
know
that
we
are
finalizing
the
neighborhood
sequencing
list
and
we
do
expect
to
release
that
by
friday,
as
cody
was
alluding
to
earlier.
This
list
will
allow
you
to
see
how
soon
your
neighborhood
will
be
addressed
within
the
four-month
project
schedule.
So
it'll
give
you
an
idea
of
where
you
fall
within
that
four
month.
I
And
director
maxwell
I
did
just
want
to
let
you
know
that
we
did
receive
drc
slides.
So
we
would
be
welcome
to
present
that
and
we're
just
getting
those
up
on
the
screen.
B
G
Thank
you,
andrew
I'll.
Try
to
be
very
brief.
I
think
the
the
meat
of
the
presentation
cody
just
covered,
but
I'd
like
to
introduce
our
company.
A
I
And
just
one
minute,
our
production
staff
is
putting
the
slides
up.
G
G
G
Thank
you,
jen
for
the
slide,
and
I
show
our
mission
statement
because
I
think
it's
important
in
in
the
context
of
what
everyone
has
endured
and
what
our
mission
is,
and
that
is
to
provide
dependable,
honest
customer,
centric
services,
building
lasting
relationships
with
clients
we
serve,
and
the
importance
of
that
statement
is
that
we
want
to
leave
you
with
the
lasting
good
impression
of
our
company,
and
that
is
our
intention
from
day
one.
G
We
worked
hand
in
hand
with
the
county
preparing
to
get
to
work
on
this
on
this
mission
and
we're
very
sensitive
to
the.
As
I
said
before,
the
dilemma,
the
trials
and
tribulations
that
each
of
you
have
encompassed
up
into
this
point.
G
So
we
want
to
leave
you
with
a
very
good
taste
in
your
mouth
and
get
you
on
your
way
to
recovery
and
back
to
normalcy.
Next
slide,
please.
G
Just
just
a
little
a
few
facts
about
our
company:
we
hold
some
benchmarks,
some
fema
benchmarks,
to
show
you
our
capacity
in
2021,
16
million
cubic
yards
of
debris
and
managed
82
degree
management
sites.
Just
to
give
you
a
feel
for
what
our
company
is
capable
of
doing
and
I'll
go
down
to.
We
still
hold
a
pro
productivity
record
for
disaster
debris
in
a
single
day,
and
very
pertinent
is
the
last
bullet
point
and
that
is,
we've
never
left
a
local
jurisdiction
with
a
de-obligation.
G
G
Just
an
indication
of
some
of
the
recent
programs
recent
projects
that
we've
taken
on
the
southern
district
of
the
california
wildfires
a
large
part,
627
parcels-
you
can
see
the
trees.
You
can
see
the
massive
amount
of
tonnage
that
we
removed,
but
I
think
the
most
pertinent
point
is
that
we
worked
over
a
span
of
four
counties:
four
california
counties
in
doing
this
work
and
that's
a
massive
undertaking.
G
We
did
this
with
our
local,
with
our
sister
company
fortune,
so
drc
and
forging
hell
hands
on
this
project
next
slide.
Please.
G
G
Fortune
participated
in
the
woolsey
fire
and
not
to
belabor
the
point,
but
you
can
see
the
tonnage
in
the
properties.
This
was
a
smaller
project.
Origin
was
a
subcontractor
on
this
one
next
slide
and
the
same
thing
for
the
paradise
fire.
G
Commonly
owned
sister
company,
doing
approximately
half
of
the
subcontracting
to
us
and
a
company
by
the
name
of
coleman
who's
got
so
much
experience.
It
would
take
me
a
half
a
day
to
to
lay
it
all
out
on
both
sides
of
the
equation,
both
as
construction
management
and
as
debris
removal
contractors.
G
H
B
All
right,
thank
you
mark.
We
appreciate
that.
Why
don't
we
go
ahead
and
move
into
the
question
and
answer
phase
of
the
meeting
and
gary
and
andrew?
If
you
want
to
start
letting
us
know
some
of
the
questions
that
are
coming
across
your
desk,
we
can
start
answering
them.
A
I
think
we
have
an
excellent
team.
We're
really
excited
to
get
going
and
I
think
the
chat
is
now
open.
So
you
can
begin
to
insert
your
questions
we'll
try
to
answer
as
many
as
possible
one.
I
think
one
of
the
first
questions-
and
I
know
andrew
has
some
already
is:
when
will
we
see
heavy
equipment
out
on
sites.
B
We
have
to
do
individual
site
inspections
at
each
property
to
ensure
that
we're
removing
what
the
residents
want
us
removed
and
to
remove
and
that
we're
not
removing
items
that
they
don't
want
us
to
remove.
So
it's
a
it's
a
fairly
involved
process,
it's
important
because
it
helps
us
provide
good
customer
service
to
the
residents,
we're
not
just
going
in
blindly
we're
inspecting
the
sites,
we're
honoring
their
concerns
and
their
conditions,
and
we
have
to
put
that
all
together
before
the
heavy
equipment
goes
out
of
the
field.
B
That
being
said,
we
have
an
enormous
team,
and
drc
can
speak
to
this
as
well,
but
we
have
an
enormous
team.
That's
doing
this
preparatory
work
so
we're
very
confident
this
is
going
to
happen
quickly,
but
we
want
it
to
happen
right
and
we
want
to
make
sure
we
do
the
job
right
so
that
we
don't
make
mistakes
on
individual
property
owners
sites.
B
So
we're
doing
this
upfront
work
right
and
once
we
have
a
understanding
of
how
soon
that's
going
to
wrap
up
we'll
immediately
release
the
start
date
in
preparation
for
the
start
date.
We
are
also
planning
to
release
the
prioritization
schedule
this
friday
and
that
will
show
you
within
the
four
month
time
frame
where
your
property
lies.
So
you'll
know
if
you're
in
the
first
portion
of
the
debris,
removal
effort
or
maybe
toward
the
middle,
and
that
can
help
you
kind
of
gauge
how
much
time
it
might
take
for
your
property
to
be
completed.
J
B
Well,
let's
see
who
might
have
the
best
perspective
on
that?
I
guess
that's
going
to
be
part
of
the
site,
inspections
and
maybe
luke
or
mark
you
might
have
a
better
feel
for
how
often
driveways
are
in
need
of
complete
replacement
rather
than
just
being
partially
damaged
and
repairable
luke.
Maybe
you
can
speak
to
your
experience,
because
you
have
a
vast
amount
of
experience
with
driveways
in
fires
similar
to
this
and
how
many
of
them
are
salvaged
in
the
process
and
how
many
of
them
are
usually
completely
removed.
F
Yeah
no
problem
jeff,
as
everyone
knows
this
fire
burned
very,
very
hot
and
when
concrete
is
heated
to
a
certain
temperature,
the
air
pockets
within
that
concrete
begin
to
fracture
so
a
lot
of
driveways.
F
While
they
may
look
good
on
the
surface
as
soon
as
we
put
a
little
bit
of
weight
on
that
it
will
cause
damage.
In
my
estimation,
I
would
say
30
to
40
percent
of
driveways
that
I
have
encountered.
Don't
have
any
damage
after
we're
done
under
this
program.
Homeowners
will
have
the
option.
F
J
Thanks
luke
another
one
is
I
requested
sifting
as
part
of
the
cleanup,
can
you
describe
how
the
contract
will
sift?
So
I
understand
what
will
be
done
on
my
property.
G
We
will,
when
possible,
we'll
use
our
heavy
machinery
to
to
move
or
carefully
excavate
the
portion
that
needs
to
be
removed
in
other
cases,
we'll
use
smaller
hand,
tools
to
uncover
and
locate.
G
Hopefully,
the
missing
item
but
rest
assured
that
we're
sensitive
to
to
these
these
dilemmas
and
we
intend
to
work
with
a
homeowner
to
define
their
valuables.
A
All
right,
thank
you.
A
related
question
is
people
would
like
to
know
if
they
could
be
present
during
some
of
this
activity
and
how
will
they
be
notified
when
the
contractor
will
be
on
their
property
to
be
able
to
see
what's
going
on
and
give
input.
F
You
want
me
to
take
that
one
sure
through
the
state's
contractor
cdr,
they
have
a
company
called
ac
disaster,
consulting.
They
will
be
making
notifications
24
to
48
hours
prior
to
mobilization
to
individual
parcels.
F
We
also
before
that
happens.
We
are
going
to
send
out
more
notification
forms
for
the
consent
of
insurance
form,
as
well
as
a
more
detailed
roe,
describing
what
flat
work
that
was
ineligible
under
the
fema
program,
such
as
sidewalks
that
led
to
the
backyard
to
someone's
swing,
set
or
driveways
that
need
to
be
removed,
we're
going
to
be
sending
out
a
form
that
asks
homeowners
to
detail
what
they
would
like
removed
during
that
process.
F
Did
I
answer
the
question
gary
or
what
was
the
full
question?
I'm
sorry,
I
got
lost
on
flat
work.
F
Yeah
the
24
to
48
hours
will
let
you
know
we're
mobilizing
and
then
during
that
time,
please
request
to
acdc
that
we
that
you
would
like
to
be
present
and
we
can
have
a
county
division
supervisor
escort
you
out
to
the
active
construction
zone.
Show
you
what's
going
on
answer
any
questions
that
you
have
and
then
you
know
you're
free
to
stay
at
a
safe
distance
away
as
long
as
you're,
not
in
any
danger
from
a
health
and
safety
standpoint.
F
To
a
degree,
so
as
long
as
you
are
checking
in
with
a
supervisor
and
escorted
by
a
construction
professional
that
is
out
in
the
field,
we
will
do
what
we
can
to
allow
people
to
go
on
to
an
active
construction
zone.
But
please
note
that
this
is
a
hazardous
waste
remediation
area.
All
of
our
workers
will
be
in
level
c.
Ppe.
F
That
is,
you
know,
tyvek
suits
respirators,
hard
hats.
It
is
a
dangerous
work
zone
and
working.
If
the
public
comes
into
the
zone,
we
will
automatically
stop
that
operation
talk
to
the
person
who's
walking
in,
but
it
will
slow
the
cruise
down.
So
we
need
to
have
a
formal
notification
process
through
that
subsequent
debris
removal
form
to
understand
what
people
want.
J
G
G
That's
one
piece
of
the
safety
that
safety
that
we
will
take.
The
other
piece
I
think
we
mentioned
is
a
traffic
control
program
by
which
you
know
will
control
any
flow
of
traffic
at
the
time
and
then
again,
luke
mentioned
tyvek
level
c
ppe
that
all
all
the
personnel
will
be
wearing
now.
I
hope
I
heard
the
whole
question.
Maybe
I
didn't.
J
Yeah,
it
was
another
follow-up
was
how
will
neighbors
be
notified
and
I
think
I
can
as
communications
I'll
be
working
with
you
know.
I
have
my
list
we'll,
be
you
know,
releasing
news
releases
we'll
be
doing
the
individual
emails.
There's
you
know
our.
We
have
an
email
list
served
you
can
subscribe
to.
If
you
haven't
already
that's
available
on
our
website,
I'll,
be
pushing
out
messages
as
often
as
possible
and
you'll
start
to
see
these
crews
roll
into
neighborhoods.
J
D
Hi
everybody-
this
is
dan
strode
with
drc
and
forgen
our
trucks
go
through
an
inspection.
Before
we
start
all
the
material
is
wetted
and
just
to
roll
back
to
public
safety.
We
are.
We
are
working
in
compliance
with
cd
phe
guidelines
and
osha
guidelines
on
everything
that
we
do
all
the
debris
is
wetted,
so
that
none
of
the
debris
is
aerosolized
and
it's
double
wrapping.
D
Two
six
mil
polys
in
the
field
taken
to
an
approved
landfill,
the
landfills
inspect
the
trucks
when
they
come
in
and
they
also
inspect
the
trucks
when
they
go
out
to
ensure
that
there's
no
debris
on
the
outbound
side.
So
our
checks
and
balances
and
engineering
controls
on
not
only
the
operational
side,
but
the
environmental
side
are
in
compliance
with,
as
I
said,
tdphe,
osha,
any
local
and
county
guidance
and
then
we're
working
in
in
concert
with
the
county
and
the
local
landfills
to
ensure
the
trucks
are
clean,
going
clean,
going
out.
F
When
we
start
these
projects,
we'll
probably
be
in
an
area
where
there
are
multiple
destroyed
homes
and
not
next
to
people
who
are
inhabiting
other
homes,
we
will
be
able
to
quantify
our
engineering
control
say
we
need
to
add
a
little
bit
more
water.
Our
excavator
is
going
to
need
to
move
a
little
bit
slower
if
anything
gets
picked
up
in
those
perimeter.
Air
monitoring
samples,
we'll
stop
the
project,
reassess
engineering
controls,
move
forward
with
different
controls
and
make
sure
that
the
samples
are
coming
back
clean
prior
to
progressing
with
more
and
more
crews.
J
Thanks
thanks
luke,
how
will
vehicles
that
remain
trapped
to
be
dealt
with,
and
what
should
I
do
about
my
vehicle?
It's
still
stuck
in
the
debris
and
I
haven't
been
able
to
get
to
it.
F
We
are
hoping
that
we
will
have
off-duty
police
officers,
go
from
house
to
house
identify
vehicles
for
their
make
and
model
that
are
listed
on
the
insurance
reports
that
they
have
access
to
once
the
police
officer
is
able
to
say
hey.
This
looks
like
a
minivan.
That's
stuck
at
one
two
three
happy
lane
they
will
print
paint
x
on
it.
Our
debris
monitor,
cdr
will
come
by
and
tag
that
drc
is
then
free
to
load
that
up.
F
They
plan
on
using
high
sided
trailers
we'll
make
sure
that
we
get
all
of
the
ash
and
debris
out,
and
we
don't
have
any
fluids
leaking
out
and
maintain
all
of
the
environmental
compliance
on
that
side.
Those
will
be
loaded
into
whatever
conveyance
that
drc
deems
most
efficient
at
the
time
and
they
will
be
sent
down
to
a
local
car
crushing
facility
in
denver.
J
Yeah
excellent
thanks
again
so
who
will
be
capping
utility
lines
and
who
will
pay
for
this
prior
to
our
demolition?
Work
on
the
property.
J
D
Yeah
this
is
dan.
I
can
take
this
we're
working
with
boulder
county
and
the
iron
third-party
monitors
to
locate
and
cap
all
private
utilities
we'll
verify
that
all
through
a
1-1
call
before
you
dig
that
all
all
local
all
utilities
have
been
located
and
then,
as
far
as
those
those
utilities
going
on
the
property,
we
will
find
those
located
in
kaplan
markham.
J
A
B
So
really
a
property
owner
can
opt
out
up
until
the
time
that
the
contractor
has
entered
their
runway
and
has
started
working
their
runway.
That's
really
where
it's
problematic
for
the
contractor
to
readjust
to
that
request.
So
we
would
prefer
that
they
opt
out
earlier
than
that,
but
they
do
have
the
option
to
up
opt
out
right
until
the
contractor
is
entering
their
neighborhood.
B
Yeah,
so
runway
is
just
how
we
are
parsing
out
different
neighborhoods
for
efficiency,
so
it
may
mean
more
than
just
one
street.
It
may
mean
several
streets
that
are
adjacent
that
makes
sense
to
address
debris,
removal
efforts
in
a
in
a
concerted
effort
in
those
areas.
So
it's
really
about
efficiency
more
than
anything
else,
and
when
we
release
the
priority
prioritization
list
this
friday,
that
will
have
some
indication
of
what
those
runways
will
look
like
and.
A
J
A
D
Yeah
I
can
take
this.
This
is
dan.
All
the
trees
will
be
cut
flush
cut
to
the
ground
within
six
inches
of
the
ground
level,
parallel
with
the
ground
that
it's
sitting
on
so
it'd
be
six
inch
thumb.
We
are
not
removing
root
balls.
A
Great
and
how
about
how
much
will
we
actually?
How
much
will
you
be
charging
their
insurance,
how
much
funds
from
their
insurance
will
you
be
taking
to?
You
know,
pay
for
the
for
the
contractor's
work
and
then
if
and
then
the
second
part
of
that
question
is
if
someone
does
not
have
debris
as
a
earmarked
or
specific
line
item
in
their
insurance
policy.
B
L
Thanks
jeff,
I'm
carrie
doyle,
I'm
one
of
the
attorneys
in
the
county,
attorney's
office.
Insurance
collection
will
be
its
own
part
of
this
ppdr
program.
As
we've
explained,
we
in
order
to
receive
fema
reimbursement,
we're
required
to
collect
the
debris,
removal
insurance
proceeds
from
each
homeowner.
So
every
policy
varies.
I'm
sure
you
have
all
heard
this
from
your
own
insurance
companies
and
we've
all
been
learning
this
along
the
way.
So
my
understanding
is
that
it's
actually
pretty
rare
that
there
is
no
debris.
L
Removal
insurance
proceeds
in
your
policy,
but
the
where
those
insurance,
where
the
debris
removal
insurance
proceeds
like
where
you
find
them
in
your
policy
varies
policy
to
policy.
L
So
that's
an
analysis
that
we're
going
to
have
to
look
at
if
your
policy
happens
to
be
one
that
has
no
debris,
removal
insurance
proceeds
at
all
there
there
are
sometimes
sometimes
and-
and
I
don't
really
want
to
take
over
the
whole
call
and
talk
for
an
hour
about
insurance.
We
we
will
be
working
on
that.
L
We
will
be
contacting
you
directly
or,
if
you've
signed,
both
the
roe
form
and
the
assignment
of
benefits,
form,
which
is
a
new
form
that
you'll
be
receiving
as
part
of
this
pre-work,
then,
for
some
people
will
be
able
to
just
interface
directly
with
your
insurance
company
to
collect
the
right
amount
and
only
the
debris.
Removal
proceeds
we're
not
taking
other
proceeds,
we're
trying
to
do
our
best
to
limit
the
amount
of
insurance
proceeds.
We
take
from
your
policy
we're
only
taking
those
proceeds,
tagged
for
debris,
removal.
D
K
Hey
hi
everyone,
my
name
is
michael
haney.
I
work
for
the
state
of
colorado
and
I
actually
administer
the
fema
public
assistance
program
here
in
the
state.
So
I
think
everything
kerry
said
was
right
on
the
term
that
fema
uses
is
the
public
assistance
program
cannot
duplicate
assistance,
it
cannot
create
a
duplication
of
benefits,
and
so,
if
there's
a
benefit
from
your
insurance
company,
fema
can't
then
duplicate
that
benefit.
K
Wanted
to
add,
though
carrie
was.
We
have
got
confirmation
that
fema
will
apply
insurance
proceeds
to
any
ineligible
items
first,
so,
for
instance,
if
the
you
know
the
flat
work,
if
you
want
to
have
your
debris,
your
driveway
removed
and
say
that's
a
thousand
dollars-
and
you
know
your
insurance
proceeds,
you
know
were
five
thousand
dollars
for
debris.
Removal,
then
the
duplication
there
in
that
case
would
only
be
four
thousand
dollars,
because
you
would
take
the
five
thousand
dollars
minus
the
one
thousand
dollars
for
ineligible
work.
So
that's.
A
L
Well,
I
I
think
you're
asking
both
about.
I
think
your
the
question
is
about
how
much
of
the
insurance
proceeds
we
would
be
collecting
gary.
Is
that
the
question.
A
L
So-
and
this
is
another
one
where
I
have
heard
from
insurance
companies
and
the
division
of
insurance-
that
it,
it
seems
likely
that
the
amount
of
debris
removal
insurance
proceeds
would
be
less
than
the
cost
per
parcel
to
do
the
debris
removal.
L
L
Does
anyone
want
to
jump
in
on
this?
I
think
it's
in
the
neighborhood
of
about
50
000
to
to
do
debris,
removal
for
per
parcel
under
this
program.
A
F
Under
the
fema
program,
retaining
walls
are
eligible
if
they
cause
a
immediate
danger
to
public
infrastructure.
Our
health
and
safety.
F
Basically,
the
way
the
retaining
walls
will
work
is
it's
a
systematic
system
we'll
have
to
get
a
structural
engineer
on
board.
They
will
have
to
assess
how
we
can
safely
provide
shoring
for
that
retaining
wall,
remove
the
retaining
wall,
and
then
the
reconstruction
of
that
retaining
wall
is
a
piece
I
don't
understand
under
the
fema
reimbursement.
F
But
what
we
will
do
is
we'll
leave
temporary
shoring
in
place,
and
the
local
municipalities
will
then
take
it
from
there
to
ensure
that
the
roads
are
safe
and
that
the
lot
has
stabilized
prior
to
any
further
rebuilding
activities.
K
Yeah
luke,
maybe
again,
let
me
chime
in
here
so
where
we're
at
right
now,
with
the
retaining
walls,
is
probably.
L
L
K
Present
a
threat
to
public
health-
and
you
know,
as
long
as
we
can
safely
remove
them.
You
know,
then
it
most
likely
will
be
eligible
under
the
female
public
assistance
program.
Other
ones.
It's
exactly
what
we've
said.
You
know
it's
we've
got
to
be
able
to
make
a
determination
that
they
present
a
threat
to
public
health
and
safety
for
them
to
be
eligible
to
be
removed.
So
just
like
luke
said,
it'll
be
a
systematic
process
about
that
evaluation.
Gonna,
you
know
property
by
property
wall
by
wall.
J
I'll
jump
in,
can
you
talk
about
more
about
soil
removal
and
testing,
and
how
will
I
know
that
the
land
on
my
property
is
safe
when
you're
done.
F
I
can
take
this
one
as
well
as
cody
had
explained
in
his
slides.
We
will
be
removing
all
of
the
ash
and
debris
plus
the
incidental
soil.
We
define
that
as
three
to
six
inches,
six
inches
being
the
maximum
three
inches
being
the
norm.
F
They
will
take
samples
based
on
the
standard
operating
procedure
that
is
approved
by
cdphe
and
the
local
health
departments
to
go
out
and
quantify
what
if
any,
contaminants
are
left
after
the
debris
removal
operation,
if
we
find
exceedances
and
by
exceedances
I
mean
these
are
all
based
on
the
colorado
soils,
evaluation
table,
we've
taken
background
samples
and
we
all
know
that
colorado
has
naturally
high
arsenic,
for
example.
That's
one
of
the
contaminants
of
concern
that
you
know.
F
If
you
have
arsenic
on
your
property,
you
have
arsenic
all
the
way
down
to
bedrock,
typically
here
in
colorado,
so
we'll
go
back.
We'll
take
these
samples.
If
we
find
exceedances,
our
teams
will
mark
out
where
we
have
those
exceedances
drc.
Will
mobilize
a
re-scrape
crew
which
goes
around
to
lots
that
have
been
identified
as
having
exceedances
remove
more
soil?
F
After
that
all
of
this
data
is
compiled,
it
is
sent
to
the
local
municipalities
it
they
incorporate
incorporated
into
their
database
for
building
permits
and
everything
else.
So
you
can
rest
assured.
If
we
are
working
on
your
property,
you
will
be
left
with
a
clean
property.
You
won't
have
any
environmental
restrictions
in
the
future
or
covenants
placed
on
your
property
when
we're
done
with
this.
J
Absolutely
thank
you.
Please
define
the
ash
footprint
now
that
there
is
debris
and
ash
thrown
about
my
yard.
F
I
can
take
that
one
as
well.
So,
as
everyone
knows,
we
all
have
small
yards
in
colorado,
except
a
few
lucky
folks
out
unincorporated
due
to
the
severity
of
this
fire
due
to
the
high
winds.
F
F
D
G
D
They're
extenuating
circumstances,
deep
piers,
caissons
things
like
that:
the
basin
structure
and
the
normal
basement
foundation
concretely
removed.
The
caissons
appears
to
be
cut,
marked
and
cat
and
located.
J
Thanks
dan
back
to
more
about
basements,
please
explain
what
sloughing
is,
as
mentioned
in
the
presentation.
How
will
basement
holes
be
properly?
Will
they
be
properly
compacted.
D
One
yeah
yeah,
so
the
sloughing.
So
when
we
remove
the
basement,
we
will
take
and
try
to
slough
or
push
the
top
corners
of
that
basement
in
to
create
a
slope
and
if
we
can
get
to
a
two
to
one
slope,
that's
what
was
recurrent
we're
using
the
word
slough,
as
in
the
the
earth
around
the
basement,
will
not
be
perpendicular
to
the
floor
anymore.
We'll
push
it
off
and
create
a
two
to
one
slope.
J
D
Able
to
get
that,
so
we
use
construct
structures
to
put
around
there.
A
D
All
right,
I'm
sorry,
it's!
The
fluffing
is
just
a
sloping
of
the
basement
to
create
when
it's
when
it's
left.
It
creates
a
fall
protection
hazard.
Okay.
So
we
try
to
mitigate
that
with
the
slope
trying
to
get
to
a
one
half
to
two
to
one
slope.
We
are
not
compacting
the
basements
that
that
material
we
pushed
in
and
rough
graded.
I'm
sorry!
I
hope
that
answers
the
question.
A
J
Andrew
sure,
so
how
much
notice
will
you
provide
to
me
when
you
start
before
you
start
work
on
my
property
and
how
will
you
notify
me
before
you
start
work
on
my
property
and
can
I
be
there
when
you
start
work
on
my
property,
so
three
parts
there.
J
F
Once
again,
if
you
make
a
special
request
that
you
want
to
be
present
during
debris,
removal,
we
will
try
to
make
accommodations,
but
this
is
an
active
environmental
remediation
project
with
big
restrictions
on
who
we
can
allow
into
the
active
work
zone.
F
A
L
I
have
some
details,
the
I
guess
the
the
main
answer
to
the
question
is
that
every
homeowner
who
has
opted
in
will
be
contacted
by
the
county
or
the
county's
contractors
to
go
through
a
list
of
items
included
in
that
list
is:
do
you
want
your
driveway
removed?
If
it's
not
damaged,
you
know,
will
will
have
you
sign
the
assignment
of
benefits
form
for
insurance,
so
we
can
deal
directly
with
your
insurance
company
and
there's
a
number
of
other
issues
on
that
list,
and
so
that
would
be
the
time
that
you
could
talk.
L
J
J
So
the
email-
I
would
I
mean-
that's
your
roe
at
boulder
county
dot,
org
right
now
to
check
on
the
form
that
you
submitted
already
but
again.
At
the
end
of
the
slide,
there
was
a
debris
at
boulder
county,
dot,
o
r
g
and
there's
a
team
monitoring
that
as
well
working
with
both
teams
are
working
in
cohesion,
so
either
one
and
will
get
you
to
the
right
place.
D
Property,
I
can
take
that
we're.
Obviously
some
of
the
properties
are
unincorporated
versus
some
in
the
municipalities
will
take
different
time,
but
we're
using
an
average
time,
every
duration
of
four
days
per
property.
D
A
Yeah
will
fencing
be
covered
in
for
removal.
K
Yeah,
probably
not,
unless
I
mean,
if
we're
talking
about
burn
fencing,
you
know
that's
just
an
ash
pile
then
yeah
that
will
be
considered.
You
know
hazardous
waste
and
be
considered
a
threat
to
public
health.
A
standing
fence
or
mostly
standing
fence
most
likely
would
not
be
eligible
for
fema
public
assistance,
and
so
then
that
would
be
a
question
on
whether
or
not
the
various
municipalities.
A
B
Another
component
of
it
is
areas
where
we
have
runoff
issues
and
stormwater
issues
that
are
critical
to
get
to
first
and
foremost,
and
so
those
were
the
two
biggest
factors
in
bringing
that
list
together.
We
also
worked
alongside
with
those
priorities,
to
try
and
ensure
that
we
were
getting
properties
in
all
three
jurisdictions
so
that
lewisville,
superior
and
unincorporated
boulder
county
were
not
left
out
of
the
runways
or
the
prioritization
schedule.
B
Early
on,
so
we've
been
working
hard
to
make
sure
that
all
of
those
elements
are
balanced
in
the
final
prioritization
schedule
and
that's
what
we
hope
to
release
this
week.
A
And
to
thank
you
and
to
be
really
clear,
the
commitment
still
is
to
complete
the
work
in
the
four-month
time
frame.
So,
although
you
may
not
be
in
the
first
wave
of
work,
please
know
that
within
the
four
month
period,
depending
on
any
weather,
events
etc,
the
work
will
be
completed.
So
another
question
is:
can
you
give
an
example
about
insurance?
Carry
so
so
say
someone
has
twenty
thousand
dollars
for
debris,
removal
in
their
policy.
L
Sure,
if
they
have
twenty
thousand
dollars
specified
for
debris,
removal
and
if
they
have
filled
out
the
roe
form
which
they
have
to
opt
into
the
program
and
if
they've
not
received
that
money
yet
from
their
insurance
company,
if
they
sign
the
they
fill
out,
the
assignment
of
benefits
form
again,
that's
a
form
we'll
put
out
in
a
bit
not
not.
Tonight
we
will
be
in
touch
with
you
to
get
that
form
signed.
L
A
L
L
A
F
I
can
take
this:
one
drc
will
be
out
in
the
field
on
most
of
these
are
going
to
be
an
unincorporated
boulder
county
and
we
have
a
general
location
of
those
systems.
No,
we
will
not
be
removing
septic
systems,
we
will
be
avoiding
them.
Most
of
them
will
be
viable
and
need
to
be
checked
by
the
local
jurisdiction
prior
to
re-enter
energizing.
F
That
system,
but
our
main
goal
during
debris
removal
is
to
not
damage
that
system,
so
we'll
mark
it
out
we'll
verify
based
on
the
roe
and
any
information
we
can
get
from
the
home,
honor,
the
homeowner
and
the
county
building
departments.
So
we'll
try
to
preserve
those
at
all
costs.
F
Yeah,
I
saw
a
few
of
those
in
the
chat
with
the
sprinkler
systems.
I
mean.
Obviously
the
heads
are
all
going
to
be
within
that
three
to
six
inch
incidental
soil
range.
We
will
not
be
excavating
down
and
hunting
around
if
your
sprinkler
sprinkler
line
is
buried
at
a
greater
depth
than
three
to
six
inches.
F
What
typically
will
happen
is
that
we
use
excavators
that
have
thumbs
attached
to
them.
If
the
operator
is
able
to
pull
out
portions
of
that,
we
can
just
know
that
sprinkler
systems
are
usually
not
viable
after
you
have
you're
gonna
end
up
having
a
whole
new
landscaping
plan.
The
old
pipes
are
pretty
much
worthless
by
the
time
that
you
go
through
it
and
the
cost
to
replace
those
versus
how
often
your
old
system,
if
you
tried
to
use
the
old
pipes,
will
leak,
is
usually
not
cost
beneficial.
J
So
this
is
what
if
a
property
is
sold
and
the
previous
owner
had
opted
in,
will
the
new
owner
be
responsible
for
the
cost
insurance
and
the
follow-through.
L
I
guess
that's
me
again,
so
if
the
property
is
sold,
it
can
be
part
of
the
ppdr
program.
The
insurance
is
the
previous
homeowner's
insurance.
That
is
it's
the
insurance
policy
in
place
at
the
time
of
the
event,
so
we
would
need
to
so.
L
A
K
Yeah,
so
right
now,
what
we're
doing
is
one
just
kind
of
making
sure
that
we're
all
so
fema.
K
That
was
provided
to
them
in
early
march,
all
of
the
homes
that
were
determined
destroyed
and
they
have
evaluated
those
those
properties
and
of
the.
I
believe.
K
Order
of
you
know
830
some
odd
homes.
They
only
found,
I
think,
about
16
to
20
of
them
that
did
not
meet
the
criteria
for
eligibility
now
right
now,
all
the
municipalities,
fema
and
myself
were-
are
just
compiling
another
version
of
that
master
list,
because
we
did
think
there
was
some
errors.
C
K
And
so
that's
kind
of
the
first
thing
that
we're
doing
is
just
making
sure
that
we
have
that
complete
list
and
the
roe.
G
K
Are
critical
you
know
to
that
list
as
well,
but
you
know
we're
also
using
counting
assessor
data
just
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
information.
So
first
step
is
just
making
sure
that
we're
all
working
on
the
same
list,
and
the
second
thing
is
to
answer
your
question.
A
little
bit
more
directly
is
the
properties
that
are
deemed
to
be
ineligible.
K
We
will
seek
kind
of
concurrence
from
the
municipalities
that
those
are
you
know,
just
don't
meet
fema's
criteria
for
eligibility
and
if
there's
any
disagreement
at
all,
then
fema
myself
and
you
know
the
local
municipalities
we'll
go
out
and
we'll
do
a
in-person
inspection
of
those
just
to
make
sure
that
we
can
all
concur
and
understand
what
the
fema
guidelines
are.
With
all
of
that
said,
it's
still
at
the
end
of
the
day.
You
know
we
find
it
to
be
ineligible,
then
we
will
engage
in
conversations
with
the
municipality.
K
It
may
be
eligible
as
a
emergency
protective
measure
rather
than
debris,
removal
project
and
we'll
explore
all
options
to
try
and
find
some
fema
eligibility
for
that
program.
But
it
will
be.
You
know,
kind
of
case
by
case
depending
on
that
and
then,
if
you
know
still
at
the
end
of
the
day,
there's
nothing
that
you
know
that
fema
can
do
to
help.
Then
you
know
it
would
be
up
to
local
municipalities
about
how
they
want
to
to
handle
that
property.
F
Right
now,
boulder
county
public
health,
in
conjunction
with
cdphe,
have
they
ran
through
a
list
of
22
heavy
metals
and
they
are
starting
to
narrow
that
list
down
for
the
confirmation,
sampling
based
on
the
ash
and
debris
samples
that
they
have
taken
as
a
county.
We
have
no
control
over
what
the
public
health
deems
necessary
for
constitution
constituents
of
concern.
J
Okay
and
then
is
there
any
possibility
of
testing
soil
gathering
soil
on
adjacent
properties
that
remain
standing.
F
Only
if
that
is
part
of
the
program,
so
if
there's
ash
and
debris
that
is
covering
80
of
someone
else's
yard,
I
would
have
to
defer
to
michael
on
how
that
one
will
actually
work.
But
our
operation
is
kind
of
confined
to
a
property,
the
delineation
of
the
property
boundaries
based
on
our
roe
that
we
have.
K
Yeah-
and
I
mean
you
know,
I
hate
to
kind
of
keep
saying
this,
but
I
mean
if
there
are,
if
there
is
a
situation
like
that,
it
would
be
kind
of
you
know
abnormal.
You
know
and
we'd
have
to
bring
that
up
with
with
fema
kind
of
on
a
case-by-case
basis
about
what
public
health
threat
exists.
You
know
demonstrating
to
them
that
that
ash
does
present
a
public
health
threat,
but
it
was
a
result
of
this
fire
and.
A
K
K
Probably
something
that
we
could
do,
but
we
have
to
you,
know
analyze
the
the
specific
situation
with
that.
J
Thank
you.
When
does
the
four
month
timeline
start.
D
Well,
as
far
as
we
understand
is,
I
think
the
four-month
timeline
will
start
when
we
have
active
operations
on
the
ground
and
they
are
in
full
force
when
we
start
working
luke.
Maybe
maybe
you
guys
get
some
more
clarification
or
mark.
A
And
I
know
you
don't
like
answering
this
question,
but
ballpark
is
there
a
ballpark
and
I
you
know,
I
want
to
be
clear
with
people
about
expectations,
but
I
think
also
people
want
to
know,
and
I
again
I
don't
want
to
push
you
if
you
don't
feel
comfortable
with
a
specific
date.
I
understand
that,
but
I
think
people
are
understanding.
Is
it
two
three
four
weeks
when
does
that
clock
start
ticking?
Do
you
think
and
then
it
will
give
you
you
give
a
range.
I
just
want.
F
F
But
right
now
I
am
just
holding
my
hands
back
saying.
Please
don't
flood
us
with
data
until
our
systems
are
stress
tests
and
we
understand
where
everything
is
going,
where
everything
ends
up,
so
that
we
can
track
it
for
everyone.
So
no
one
ends
up
with
a
lot
that
doesn't
have
the
correct
samples
taken.
So
you
have
a
problem
down
the
road
with
rebuilding
in
your
permit
process,
so
yeah.
A
F
G
Yeah,
there's
nothing
to
correct
there.
I
think
you,
you
said
it.
The
key
passage
was
180
vehicles
running
and
I
think
we're
somewhat
limited
by
that
amount
of
traffic
on
the
roads
that
amount
of
traffic
flooding
into
landfills
at
one
time
in
their
capacity
to
to
get
these
trucks
in
and
out
with
efficiency.
G
I
will
say
this:
if
we
have
any
room,
any
ability
to
add
capacity
to
add
trucks,
add
crews.
We
certainly
will
take
advantage
of
that.
But
our
early,
our
configuration
right
now
is
for
30
crews
to
be
mobilized.
A
Great
thank
you
and
I
guess
andrew
a
lot
of
questions
tonight.
Where
will
people
see
these
posted
and
when.
J
Well,
this
might
there's
a
lot
of
questions,
so
I
will
dig
through
this
video
and
make
sure
our
faqs
that
are
on
the
boulder
county
marshall.
Fire
webpage
are
updated
over
the
next
few
days.
Just
make
sure
that
everything
that
we've
shared
tonight
is
accurate
with
what's
on
that
webpage,
so
that's
it
boco.org,
slash
marshall
or
sorry.
Yeah
bocco.org
marshall
dash
debris
dash
cleanup.
J
The
faqs
are
linked
to
from
there,
but
you
can
also
reach
them
from
boco.org
debris.
Dash
program
dash
faqs.
So
give
me
a
little
time
to
work
on
that,
and
I
will
make
sure
that
we're
all
everything's
up
and
then
this
video
will
be
posted.
So
people
can
continue
to
go
back
through
this
and
hear
what
we've
said
this
evening
as
well.
So
I
have
another
question:
if
we
decide
to
go
private
and
a
private
contractor
is
doing
our
debris.
Removal
work.
At
the
same
time,
our
neighborhood
is
having
public
debris.
Removal
done.
F
Oh,
I
love
that
question
and
I
love
that
problem.
It
means
that
we're
getting
a
lot
of
work
done
and
we
will
have
county
division
superintendents
out
in
the
field,
ensuring
that
we're
not
slowing
down
the
private
contractors,
and
we
will
play
nice
with
everyone
out
there.
That's
trying
to
get
work
done.
F
F
A
How
much
you
have
for
debris,
cleanup,
they're,
very
complex
policies,
and
so
you
need
to
verify
that
if
you
and
then
the
next
piece
is
to
get
a
quote
from
a
private
contractor
who
who
knows
how
to
do
this
work?
Who
knows
the
guidelines?
That
knows
the
procedures
and
if
those
two
numbers
match
up
for
you
and
and
you're.
Confident
in
that
that's
a
decision
you
need
to
make.
If
you
don't
want
to
worry
about
this,
you
know
or
a
contractor
having
to
to
keep
track
of
they're
doing
the
right
thing.
A
J
J
Sure
carrie,
it's
the
say,
my
my
my
line
item
and
insurance
is
60
000
and
the
actual
cost
is
50..
Will
you
take
the
60
or
well
I
just
the
50.
A
A
A
So
I
would
the
other
thing
to
consider
here
is
I
I
would
be
hard-pressed
to
find
anyone
or
that
many
people
that
have
already
have
plans
completed
from
their
architect.
They
have
a
contractor
ready
to
go
and
have
a
permit
from
their
the
building
department
respective
building
department.
So
those
things
take
time
now
I
know
there
are.
There
are
anomalies
where
some
people
just
built
their
house
or
they
have
their
plans
and
they're
building
exactly
the
same
thing
and
those
people
who
I've
talked
to
have
already
begun
to
opt
out
in
the
private
contractor
route.
A
What
I'm
trying
to
articulate
here
is
getting
your
architect
getting
your
plans
developed,
getting
your
building
permits
submitted
getting
that
reviewed
takes
months.
So
what
we're
trying
to
say
here
is
we
don't
believe
the
debris
program
will
delay
you.
So
please
just
bear
that
in
mind
as
you're
as
you're
thinking
about
the
various
steps.
C
What,
then-
and
I
think
you
know
in
discussions
with
the
town
board-
and
I
think
well
I'll-
speak
for
superior,
but
I
believe
the
three
entities
are
thinking
similar,
but
for
superior.
We
plan
to
include
those
if
they've
opted
into
the
program
as
part
of
the
debris,
removal
process
and
and
then
there
wouldn't
be
cost
to
the
home
or
outside
of
what
insurance
they
have
for
that
debris
removal.
E
Yeah,
if
I
could
gary,
I
was
actually
thinking
about
the
same
thing:
matt
clarifying
that
that
the
louisville
city
council
did
take
that
stand,
we're
working
to
define
the
number
of
fema
eligible
destroyed
homes
versus
ineligible,
but
the
iga
was
approved
with
funding
for
removal
of
ineligible
destroyed
homes.
So
it's
our
hope
to
remove
those
assuming,
like
you
said,
matt
that
people
opt
in
and
then,
as
I
was
jumping
on.
I
also
there's
a
question
about.
E
They
can't
start
permit
review
until
debris.
Removal
is
complete,
at
least
in
lewisville,
we're
prepared
to
start
accepting
building
permit
applications
now
so,
if
you're
working
with
an
architect
and
want
to
start
that
review
process
while
debris,
removal,
whether
it's
this
program
or
privately,
is
ongoing.
We're.
Okay
with
that,
we
want
to
facilitate
recovery
and
getting
people
back
home.
A
E
A
A
How
will
what
will
be
the
final
statement
or
declaration
or
document
that
that
proves
that
my
property
has
been
cleared
per,
you
know
fema
or
public
health
county
standards?
What
is
proof.
A
C
Yeah
we'll
have
inspectors
out
that
will
will
get
documentation
from
drc
and
third-party
monitors
of
the
work
that's
been
done,
we'll
have
the
soil
test
at
the
end,
the
utility's
been
capped.
All
that's
confirmed
once
that's
confirmed,
then
we'll
have
a
file
for
each
property.
That
shows
that
all
those
inspections
and
work
has
been
done
and
documented,
and
at
that
point
we
can
issue
building
permits.
E
Yeah
speaking
of
permits,
we
have
over
we've
received
over
a
hundred
demolition
permits
for
families
going
and
hiring
a
contractor
to
do
this
on
their
own
and
there's
quite
a
few
underway.
As
of
earlier
this
week.
Three
of
those
have
been
already
completed,
and
you
know
so
that
work
is
ongoing
out
there
in
the
field.
You
can
actually
go
out
there
now
and
and
kind
of
watch
this
and
see
how
this
looks
if
you're,
if
you're
interested
in
what
to
expect
for
your
property.
A
K
Yeah,
so
I
can
talk
from
a
female
eligibility
standpoint.
I
think
maybe
just
kind
of
backing
up
a
little
bit
more
is
first.
K
The
fema
public
assistance
program
is
a
program
designed
for
public
municipalities
to
you
know
recover
from
a
from
a
large
disaster.
It
is
not
the
individual
assistance
program
and
so
essentially,
what
boulder
county
to
even
become
eligible
for
this
program
they
had
to
do
is
they
had
to
put
in
a
special
application
requesting
private
property
debris.
K
Removal
fema
normally
does
not
approve
that,
but
the
fema
region
here
and
you
know
going
up
to
the
white
house-
saw
the
need
and
the
widespread
public
health
threat
for
this
work
to
take
place
and
they
approved
it
very
very
quickly.
They
approved
it
and
we're
very,
very
grateful
for
for
their
assistance,
in
addition
to
that,
fema
also
did
approve
what
they
call
the
economic
recovery
component
of
it.
K
So
when
they're,
a
normal
private
property
debris,
removal
program
which
already
in
itself
as
a
high
bar
to
clear
fema,
also
approved
the
economic
recovery
which
also
made
it
so
they
would.
They
would
be
able
to
pay
for
like
foundation,
removal
and
things
like
that.
But
really
the
answer
to
the
question
about
why
those
things
are
not
eligible
for
a
fema
program
is
cutting
it
at
the
you
know,
ground
level
that
eliminates
the
public
health
threat.
That
tree
can
no
longer.
You
know,
fall
into
the
right.
K
Onto
somebody's
property,
you
know
and
no
longer
presents
an
immediate
threat,
and
so
under
the
this
program,
those
are
the
kind
of
questions
that
fema
has
to
ask
and
answer,
and
you
know,
based
on
prior
precedent,
you
know
a
tree
that
is
just
cut
at
the
ground.
Level
is
no
longer
a
public
health
threat
and
therefore
it's
not
eligible
for
this
program.
A
F
You
know
most
of
these
landscaping
gardens
were
next
to
the
house
and
they
are
completely
destroyed
and
will
basically
crumble
into
dust
for
lack
of
a
better
term
when
the
excavator
is
there
and
therefore
will
be
removed
as
that
ash
and
debris.
F
A
survey
is
not
required
before
the
debris
removal
program.
Some
municipalities,
such
as
superior,
has
indicated
that
they
may
go
out
and
preemptively
stake.
Some
of
these
lots
to
make
it
easier
for
the
rebuilding
process,
but
no,
it
is
not
required.
If
there
are
survey
markers
on
any
property
that
we
can
save,
we
will
not
touch
those
because
we
understand
that
it
costs
more
money
to
have
a
license.
Surveyor
come
out
and
replace
those
we'll
do
our
best
to
not
destroy
survey
markers,
but
no,
it
is
not
required
to
do
that
for
this.
F
L
Maybe
I
can
take
this
one.
This
proper.
This
program
is
for
private
property,
and
so
most
of
the
homes
are
individual
homes
on
a
parcel
there
is
there
are
there?
L
Is
there
there
are
there's
one
condo
development
in
superior
and
one
group
of
condominiums
in
louisville
that
are
that
have
hoa
property
and
those
the
louisville
condominium
association
has
submitted
its
own
right
of
entry
form
for
the
common
property
and
that's
somewhat
of
a
special
case,
so
we'll
just
be
working
through
that
with
that
condominium,
and
we
have
been
working
with
those
condominium
owners.
You
know
throughout
this
process,
so
I
think
that
is
the
answer
unless
others
have
something
to
add.
E
I
would
add
that
we've
had
some
initial
conversations
with
some
of
the
hoas
about
some
of
these
parcels
and
in
particular
about
landscaping
and
recovery
in
terms
of
how
those
areas
would
be
restored,
so
we're
working
on
defining
those
areas
and
I'd
anticipate.
We
have
some
conversations
specifically
with
some
of
those
neighborhoods
as
we
go
forward.
E
There's
things
like
parks
and
stuff
in
enclave
and
those
are
definitely
things
that
are
again,
those
aren't
private
property,
so
as
public
property
that
we
will
be
working
to
restore
those
areas
and
then
coming
back
and
restoring
all
the
public
infrastructure
as
a
separate,
a
separate
piece
also
and
then
just
one
more
thing.
Gary
on
the
on
the
trees
on
the
stumps,
I
should
say
I
think
that
it
was
the
lewisville
city
council's
goal
to
remove
as
much
of
this
debris
as
as
possible
to
give
people
a
real
head
start
on
recovery.
E
And
you
know
there
had
to
be
some
kind
of
a
of
a
lying
drawn
in
terms
of
that
expenditure,
because
fema's
covering
an
awful
lot
of
this.
The
state's
helping
out
quite
a
bit,
but
the
lewisville
share,
is
somewhere
between.
Four
is
estimated
to
be
somewhere
between
four
and
six
million
dollars,
so
there's
already
a
lot
of
expenditures
on
the
table,
and
I
think
that's
just
something
that
you
know
we
had
to
draw
a
line
somewhere
on
the
fences.
I
think
that
there
may
be
some
room
to
look
at
those
fences.
E
J
I'm
looking
for
some
a
lot
of
them
are
duplicative,
but
dj
gary.
Do
you
have
anything
else.
A
Well,
I
noticed
someone
said:
how
is
it
that
some
properties
have
been
cleaned
already?
Well,
it's
because
we
offered
the
opportunity
to
people
to
opt
out
and
not
participate
in
the
public,
coordinated
debris,
removal
program
and
it's
a
stringent,
permitting
process
that
they've
gone
through
and
hired
their
own
contractor
to
do
the
work.
A
Yeah,
I'm
not
seeing
any
glaringly
new
questions
either.
I
think
some
of
them
are
repeating
like
the
prioritization
which
we
already
went
over
and
the
cars
we
went
over
and
I
would
urge
people
to
go
to
the
maybe
andrew
you
can
put
in
the
chat
of
faq
web
address,
because
a
lot
of
these
answers
already
in
the
frequently
asked
questions
section
of
the
website
and
that's
where
we
will
respond
to
these
questions
and
place
any
new
ones.
As.
A
E
Sometime
later,
this
fall,
that's
something
we
need
to
evaluate,
because
there
will
likely
be
some
properties
that
that
don't
get
addressed
and
we'll
have
to
take
care
of
that,
because
the
public
health
issue
so
sometime
this
fall
is
when
we'll
be
evaluating
our
progress
on
that,
and
then
there
may
be
some
issues
with
properties
that
you
know
have
a
hole
where
the
foundation
was
and
at
some
point
they're,
not
moving
forward
with
reconstruction
and
that
hole
could
present
another.
E
You
know
kind
of
public
health
concern
in
terms
of
you
know,
collecting
trash,
and
you
know
safety,
and
you
know
water
and
bugs
and
those
type
of
things
so
we're
aware
of
both
of
those
concerns.
But
those
are
a
little
farther
down
the
road
for
us.
A
Yeah-
and
I
would
ditto
that
for
the
county,
one
of
the
questions
is
carrie
is
there's
some
insurance
policies
in
that
the
debris
comes
out
of
coverage,
a
which
is
for
the
dwelling.
A
It's
not
a
special
line
item
for
for
debris
like
some
policies,
so
I
think
people
are
concerned
that
we
would
take
fifty
thousand
dollars
out
of
their
bucket
for
rebuilding
their
home.
So
can
you
answer
how
how
that'll
be
handled.
L
I
really
can't
answer
it.
I
can
tell
you
that
I'm
aware
of
that
issue
and
that
my
goal
is
to
try
to
collect
in
the
particularly
in
those
circumstances,
the
lowest
amount
of
insurance
that
I
can
and
I,
when
I
say
I
I
mean
the
county
and
that's
so
that
we
can
pay
that
toward
the
cost
and
remain
compliant
with
the
duplication
of
benefits
requirements
that
fema
has.
L
But
we
are
aware
of
that
issue.
We
don't
know
how
widespread
it
is,
and
I
have
heard
some
answers
that
seem
to
suggest
that
there's
there
is
a
limitation
on
that
debris.
Removal
amount,
so
we're
looking
into
it
is
the
best
answer
I
can
give.
A
L
I
I
don't
know
that
I
have
the
exact
timing.
I
mean
our
focus
has
been
on
getting
the
program
up
and
running
and
in
talking
to
some
of
the
communities
in
california,
the
collection
of
insurance
goes
on
for
a
fairly
long
time.
I
would
like
it
not
to
go
on
for
a
long
time
here.
L
Our
goal
is
to
sort
through
the
most
efficient
process
to
talk
to
850
different
company
police
companies.
Well
not
850
companies,
but
all
of
the
different
companies
about
850
different
policies
to
sort
through
collecting
that
payment,
and
so
we're
trying
to
put
a
process
in
place
to
do
that
and
we're
certainly
keeping
the
homeowner's
interest
and
our
where
we
very
much
understand
that
most
homeowners
are
underinsured
for
rebuilding,
and
that
is
absolutely
important
to
us
to
figure
out
how
to
support
you
and
and
collect
as
little
debris.
J
F
F
A
A
So
jennifer
I'm
going
to
put
my
email
address
in
the
chat.
Will
you
email
me
and
let's
talk
about
what
I'm
not
sure
what
we
mean?
We
don't
have
enough
time
but
happy
to
talk
to
you.
I
also
want
to
thank
jeremiah
jeremiah
has
said
he
would
volunteer
to
sue
michael
brown,
counter
sue
him
and
take
the
proceeds
and
pay
for
the
under
insurance
for
all
the
folks
in
the
the
marshall
fire,
so
jeremiah.
Thank
you
for
taking
one
for
the
team
and
we
wish
you
well
with
that.
A
I
want
to
thank
all
the
presenters
tonight
thank
jeff
and
his
team
and
luke.
I
want
to
thank
andrew
as
well
our
communications
guru.
I
want
to
thank
our
partners,
matt
allison
and
jeff
city
of
louisville
and
superior
thank
you
kerry
for
providing
our
legal
advice,
michael
from
the
state
for
joining
us
and
the
drc
team
dan
and
mark.
I
also
want
to
thank
jennifer,
jen
and
natalie
for
managing
the
zoom
call
and
cody
for
your
fine
work
and
in
the
interpretation
by
ray
and
elena
and
marina.
A
This
is,
as
you
can
see,
is
a
huge
team
effort.
So
thank
you.
All
I
know
we
didn't
answer
every
question.
I
know
there's
still
some
unknowns,
but
please
let
us
you
know.
As
you
can
see,
we
are
really
working
hard
to
get
this
program
up
and
running
and
when
it
does
it's
going
to
be
a
pretty
significant
effort
and
you'll
see
how
quick
it
goes.