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From YouTube: Jan. 19, 2022 Marshall Fire Community Meeting - Rebuilding in Unincorporated Boulder County
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Marshall Fire Community Meeting - Rebuilding in Unincorporated Boulder County, January 19, 2022. Learn more at https://www.boco.org/MarshallFire #MarshallFire
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First,
I
just
want
to
say
this
is
a
beginning
of
the
journey.
This
is
a
first
meeting
of
numerous
meetings.
We
will
have
I've
been
doing
this
work.
This
disaster
recovery
work
since
2010.
This
was
the
fifth
natural
disaster
we've
had
in
the
county
that
I've
worked
on.
So
we
bring
a
lot
of
experience
to
bear.
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Hopefully
we
can
meet
in
person
soon.
I
want
to
acknowledge
that
there
are
a
lot
of
unknowns
and
how
this
this
can
be
really
hard
and,
in
particular,
unknowns
around
the
timeline
for
rebuilding
for
degree
removal,
but
we're
going
to
begin
that
process
of
filling
in
that
timeline
tonight
and
tomorrow,
at
the
debris.
Removal
meeting
and
it'll
just
take
time
just
bear
with
us,
as
we
work
together
partner
together
to
create
this
recovery
process,
we're
really
working
hard
to
create
those
clear
guidelines
and
a
key
part
of
that
is.
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We'll
then
move
into
breakout
rooms.
We
have
five
breakout
rooms
that
you
will
be
assigned
and
we'll
have
a
facilitator
and
a
recorder
in
each
one.
We
will
open
up
the
chat
at
that
time
to
welcome
your
questions,
both
verbally
and
in
the
chat
and
asked
you
to
to
share
your
experience.
What
are
your
challenges?
What
are
your
ideas?
What
are
your
concerns?
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Two
other
things
I
want
to
share
with
you.
One
is
I'm
sure
many
of
you
have
already
gone
to
our
website
I'll
ask
someone
to
put
that
in
the
chat,
but
the
address,
but
it's
boulder
county
dot,
o
r
g,
slash
marshall
fire.
That's
the
place
to
go
to
learn
about
all
the
different
resources
for
you
to
obtain
boulder
county.
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I
just
had
one
more
announcement
that
I
forgot
so
the
last
sorry
everybody
before
we
move
on
to
the
agenda.
I
wanted
to
make
sure
to
thank
our
community
members,
cheryl
deanna
and
joy,
who
are
helping
manage
the
unincorporated
boulder
county
email
list.
If
you
are
not
currently
getting
the
emails,
that
cheryl
sends
out
regularly
connect
with
me,
and
I
will
get
you
on
the
email
list.
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So
you
can
see
that
the
house
burned
down
in
september
2010
and
even
later
that
month,
the
boulder
format,
the
formal
rebuilding
forum
was
put
on
by
the
boulder
green
building
guild,
which
is
now
the
colorado
green
building
guild.
That
seemed
really
early
in
the
process.
But
you
will
see
that
you
actually
have
to
keep
moving
during
this
process
of
rebuilding.
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So
by
2010
november
in
2010,
my
husband
returned
from
antarctica.
The
reason
that
that's
important
is
that
I
had
to
put
in
a
request
to
the
insurance
company
to
for
an
extension
on
the
time
frame
for
us
to
start
filing
some
of
our
paperwork,
because
I
wanted
to
do
that
together
with
him.
So
that
was
part
of
why
his
return
in
really
almost
a
month
and
a
half
after
the
fire.
That's
why
that's
in
the
timeline
by
november,
we
also
had
moved
to
removing
the
debris
which
turned
out
to
be
very
expensive.
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We
had
hired
our
architect
and
then
you
can
see
there's
a
six
month
interval
where,
before
we
hired
our
contractor,
that's
partly
because
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
had
the
funds
in
place
really
proceed
with
rebuilding
our
house.
So
in
that
six
month
period
we
made
sure
that
we
not
only
had
the
full
policy
limit.
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So
another
question
that
gary
asked
was:
did
we
decide
to
build
back
in
a
better
or
greener
way?
And
what
were
some
of
the
specific
things
that
we
did
so
at
the
time
that
we
were
rebuilding
boulder
county
had
already
implemented
the
boulder
county,
build
smart
regulations
so
of
what
we
did
in
terms
of
energy
efficiency
was
already
in
the
code
for
boulder
county.
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But
there's
also
I'd
like
you
to
understand
that
we
were
going
from
a
1970s
home,
which
was
our
the
first
home
that
we
ever
bought
to
a
house
that
was
going
to
be
built
in
k-12.
So
it's
it's
that's
a
hard
call
to
make.
It
did
cost
more,
but
there's
a
good
reason
for
that
to
have
cost
more.
I
think
so.
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Part
of
it
is
that
we
have
some
inherent
resiliency
that
derives
from
who
we
are
from
our
families,
from
our
friends
from
our
co-workers
that
works
really
well
for
us.
The
second
thing
is
that
we
loved
the
whole
process
of
rebuilding
our
house.
It
was
an
exciting
opportunity
for
us
that
was
a
process
that
was
create.
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The
third
aspect
is
that
we
felt
tremendous
amount
of
gratitude
and
still
do,
and
we
felt
that
to
our
family
and
friends
to
boulder
county,
which
has
bent
over
backwards
during
that
disaster
and
all
of
the
subsequent
disasters
to
help
us
rebuild
as
a
community.
Gary
simpson
is
your
hero.
Let
me
tell
you
and
all
the
other
people
that
work
for
the
county,
and
we
were
also
grateful
to
the
community
for
come
for
rallying
for
donations
for
lots
of
of
kind
of
comrade
during
that
whole
process,
and
also
we
were
very
grateful
to
the
vendors.
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What
do
I
wish?
I
knew
at
the
beginning
of
the
rebuilding,
I'm
not
really
sure
and,
as
gary
said,
the
very
beginning,
it's
a
journey,
and
you
learn
a
lot
about
yourself
and
your
your
desires
and
your
community
in
this
journey.
Next
slide.
Please
is
there
any
other
advice
that
we'd
like
to
share
for
us.
The
house
burning
down
had
a
couple
silver
linings.
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We
also
used
the
land
and
the
building
as
reese
opportunities
to
understand
the
chemistry
of
wildfire
ash
and
also
to
look
at
the
effects
of
fire
on
soil
properties,
so
both
of
those
things
were
silver
linings
for
us
anyway.
I
want
to
thank
you
again
and
I
wish
you
the
best
in
the
journey
that
you're
on
now.
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Thanks
so
much
debbie
for
taking
your
time
to
share
your
story
now
I
want
to
introduce
charlie
pellerin
charlie
lost
his
home
in
the
2020
cowboy
charlie,
and
I
just
want
to
state
that
we
will
post
these
these
presentations
and
charlie
did
a
wonderful,
write-up,
much
more
in-depth
write-up
that
he
can
speak
to
tonight,
and
we
will
post
that
as
well
charlie.
It's
all
yours.
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We
started
in
april,
we
initially
weren't
going
to
rebuild
and
chose
to
because
of
the
frankly
the
the
poor
quality
properties
in
the
real
estate
market
and
the
more
we
got
into
it.
The
happier
we
were
so
I
I
think
we
got
our
permit
in
september,
and
just
so
you
know
the
county
will
expedite
this.
They
promise
six
weeks
to
approve
our
permit,
which
apparently
is
order
of
magnitude
or
two
faster
than
normal,
and
I
think
they
pretty
much
did
that.
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E
We
have
very
resilient
systems,
very
energy,
efficient,
a
much
higher
quality
house
and
the
same
thing
a
house
will
take
us
into
old
age,
which
the
original
house
would
not
by
the
way.
That's
our
new
house
in
the
background,
and
we
have
things
like
ada
when
door,
openings
elevator
all
these
things,
so
I'd
say
for
us:
it's
a
very
positive
experience,
the
same
with
the
builder
and
the
architect.
They've
become
lifelong
friends,
I'm
a
nasa
project
manager
and
I
run
this
the
same
way.
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What
do
I
wish
I
knew
at
the
beginning?
I
wished,
I
didn't
believe,
the
real
estate
agent
friends
of
mine
who
were
all
bad
mouth
rebuilding.
It's
turned
out
to
be
a
really
great
experience,
and
I'm
gonna
tell
you
that
when
this
ends
we're
gonna
be
so
much
better
off
how
about
our
our
emotional
state?
E
E
So
we've
lived
in
the
gratitude
of
having
each
other
having
the
emotional
and
and
financial
resources
to
come
out
of
this
better.
So
that's
kind
of
where
we
are
advice.
I
I've
already
talked
to
several
people.
Who've
contacted
me
through
various
means
about
what
to
do,
and
it's
not
very
different
from
us
or
maybe
debbie-
that
our
insurance
was
grossly
below
the
rebuilt
cost
of
our
house,
but
the
coverage
b
she
mentioned
the
personal
property
stuff
by
the
way,
is
the
she
defined
it
correctly.
E
So
if
you
turn
your
house
upside
down,
it's
everything
that
would
fall
out
that
turned
it
out
turned
out
to
be
a
gigantic
windfall,
and
so
we
have
the
resources
for
this,
and
maybe
other
people
won't.
But
I'll
tell
you.
This
interest
rates
are
the
lowest
they've
been
in
a
thousand
years
and
you've
got
a
gigantic
down
payment.
So
I
would
encourage
you
to
look
at
the
rebuilding.
I
think
in
colorado,
springs
70
of
the
people
rebuilt
there
and
they
all
built
better
houses.
E
E
It's
been
a
testimonial
to
the
the
positive
side
of
the
human
condition.
People
have
been
there
for
us,
and
just
in
just
in
little
ways
over
and
over
and
over
landlords
everybody
so
you're
in
a
good
place.
There's
lots
of
people
to
take
care
of
you
and
with
little
luck,
you'll
come
out
of
this
even
better
and
I
think
there's
nothing
going
to
be
important
as
important
going
into
the
future
than
a
fireproof
resource.
Stingy
house
and
you
can
do
it
and
I'm
writing
another
paper
gary
distributes
my
stuff
to
you.
E
I'm
writing
another
paper
on
the
fireproofing
existing
houses
and
building
a
fireproof
house
that
I'll
send
you
gary
in
three
or
four
days.
You
can
send
it
out
and
if
anybody
wants
to
talk
with
me,
the
covet
closed
my
business,
so
I've
got
lots
of
time.
So
anybody
wants
to
talk
with
me
about
any
of
these
things,
I'm
happy
to
help
and
there
we
are.
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F
I
live
in
a
community
santa
rosa
where
we
lost
6
000
homes,
all
in
one
night,
between
10
pm
and
6
a.m,
and
it
was
a
horrifying
experience
for
our
community
and
I
became
involved
with
disaster
recovery
locally
and
then
helped
build
a
startup
to
rebuild
homes
faster.
So
I'm
going
to
walk
you
through
a
presentation
that
I've
created
for
the
state
chapter
of
the
american
institute
of
architects
to
talk
about
rebuilding
the
rebuilding
process
and
help
you
have
some
perspective
on
the
whole
duration
of
it.
F
Okay,
so
so
this
is
a
toolkit
for
the
aia.
California,
ai
means
american
institute
of
architects,
but
it's
applicable
to
the
experiences
you
have
and
I've
I've
edited
out
a
lot
of
the
stuff
that
aren't.
Are
it's
not
really
relevant
for
you?
The
first
thing
you
need
to
know
is
that
there
are
five
phases
of
disaster
management.
F
So
readiness
should
be
an
annual
kind
of
preparation.
Every
time
you
have
new
changes
in
leadership
in
the
community,
not
just
in
a
not
not
just
for
the
architects,
but
in
the
community
there
should
be
an
annual
review.
Most
most
government
agencies
have
a
emergency
preparedness
section
and
the
more
these
things
happen,
the
more
prepared
they
are
to
deal
with
this
I
lived
in
colorado
for
a
decade
and
experienced
wildfires
down
in
southwest
colorado.
F
Before
I
moved
back
to
california,
the
next
is,
the
response
is
really
a
period
of
days
from
the
disaster.
Some
disasters
take
longer
like
ours
was
really
two
weeks
before
anyone
could
go
back
in
where
they
would
found
things
to
be
safe.
But
the
response
time
is
when,
when
the
first
responders
start
to
leave
town
and
the
government
that
the
local
government
takes
over
with
disaster
recovery,
services
and
centers
the
next
period
is,
is
really
the
recovery
period
where
the
the
local
jurisdiction
is
still
really
the
leader
in
this.
F
But
they
don't
rebuild
homes,
so
there's
some
sort
of
transition.
That
goes
on
about
how
you
work
with
local
government
and
permitting
officials
and
community-based
organizations
and
with
your
insurance
companies
with
the
debris
removal
all
those
environmental
cleanup
issues
that
are
not
just
for
your
property,
but
for
the
whole
community
and
and
then
the
rebuilding
really
goes
more
to
the
private
sector,
where
you're
hiring
an
architect
or
contractor
a
team
to
work
with
you
and
rebuild
your
property.
F
There's
parts
that
people
may
not
understand
which
is
pre-construction
construction
and
then
post-construction
pre-construction
is
all
the
testing,
design,
engineering
and
permits.
So
a
lot
of
people
say
give
me
my
permit
fast,
but
really
it
takes
you
going
and
getting
all
the
testing
done,
the
geotech,
the
design,
the
engineering
you
need
to
make
sure
your
building's
going
to
be
safe
for
snow
loads
before
you
can
apply
for
the
permit.
So
the
government
is
not
really
the
hold
up
on
permits
so
be
aware
of
that.
F
F
F
She
moved
into
her
parents
garage
and
moved
her
drafting
staff
there
and
she
had
to
compete
for
workmen,
who
were
all
living
in
tents
and
for
materials
for
everyone
trying
to
rebuild,
but
she
got
the
fairmont
hotel,
which
is
a
big
building
in
the
middle
of
san
francisco
rebuilt.
Unless
here
and
a
party,
it
was
really
important
and
she
got
this
project
because
she
reinforced
concrete
and
she'd
already
demonstrated
it
across
the
bay
in
melbourne's
college,
and
this
this
bell
tower
that
she
built
had
nada,
not
a
crack
in
it.
F
After
the
earthquake
and
earthquake
codes
changed
immediately
within
four
months
of
the
1906
disaster
because
of
her
work
because
of
her
work
in
rainforest
concrete
and
and
the
whole
building
industry
changed.
So
when
they
talk
about
codes,
better
codes
actually
are
better
better
buildings,
and
we
learned
through
that
whole
1906
earthquake
that
the
reinforced
concrete
could
really
be
useful
for
earthquake
and
fire,
and
it
became
really
important
in
california.
F
The
readiness
part
I'm
going
to
kind
of
skip
through,
because
that
will
be
something
that
you'll
come
back
to
later.
The
the
response
is,
what
I
want
to
talk
about
is
really
the
the
number
of
days
after
the
event
happens
and
and
there's
safety
of
the
people
immediately
around
you
making
sure
people
have
housing.
F
This
is
a
government
governor,
jerry
brown
and
senator
feinstein,
and
senator
kamala
harris
were
showed
up
in
our
small
community
in
the
high
school
gym
with
everyone
there
and-
and
this
is
this-
is
what
response
looked
like
before
covid
and
now
it
looks
like
zoom
meetings
like
this.
So
maybe
it's
better
this
way,
because
there's
a
lot
of
anxiety
in
this
room
and
not
a
lot
of
answers.
A
lot
of
people
talking
architects
can
help
in
this
initial
phase
by
just
giving
you
guidance
on
what
it's
gonna
take.
F
So
the
important
thing
is
to
think
of
is
these
months
right
now
are
the
recovery
period.
You
don't
have
to
have
your
house
rebuilt
tomorrow.
This
is
the
time
to
think
about
it
and
to
write,
find
the
right
architect
find
the
right
contractor
for
the
government
to
organize,
and
then
it
will
be
a
time
of
pivot.
This
is
a
time
when
you
go
from
the
government.
It's
the
person.
You
look
for
for
answers
to
finding
your
your
team
of
people
that
are
going
to
help.
You
rebuild
your
your
property.
F
So,
just
briefly,
there's
there's
meetings
that
you
can
attend
like
this
one.
There's
all
sorts
of
community
outreach
out
there,
there's
all
sorts
of
behind
the
scenes:
involvement
of
architects
engineers,
planning
officials
permitting
officials,
government
officials,
community-based
organizations,
all
sorts
of
things
are
going
on
right
now
from
all
different
avenues,
and
also
the
architects
are
learning
what
they
need
to
to
help.
F
You
build
build
back
better
architects
also
get
involved
in
a
variety
of
things
which
I'm
I'm
gonna
skip
that
one,
but
but
they're
doing
a
lot
of
things
behind
the
scene
according
to
their
interests.
And
then,
when
you
move
into
the
design
and
engineering
phase,
the
insurance
actually
does
pay
for
the
architectural
design.
So
you
should
make
sure
to
discuss
that
with
your
investor.
F
F
If
it's
going
to
cost
a
million.
Add
a
hundred
thousand
so
forth.
Some
architects
and
engineer
teams
are
going
to
cost
even
more.
If
you
want
to
do
something
very
custom,
so
be
be
aware
of
that,
and
and
look
for
meetings
with
architects,
I
think
they
may
be
trying
to
set
it
up
so
that
it
can
be
by
appointment,
one-on-one
sessions
where
you
can
sit
down
with
an
architect
and
talk
to
them.
They'll
give
you
any
kind
of
advice.
You
would
of
course,
sign
a
waiver.
F
You
don't
have
to
enter
any
kind
of
contract
to
sit
and
have
a
pro
bono
meeting
with
an
architect
or
or
any
number
of
architects.
They're
they're
probably
willing
to
give
you
some
time
and
help.
You
understand
your
situation
the
best
and
then
the
rebuilding
process
is
probably
what
you're
most
interested
in
understanding.
The
ramifications
of
this
is
gonna
take
years,
two
three
four
ten
years,
sometimes
that
the
national
average
is
25
percent
of
homes
are
rebuilt
in
five
years.
F
Our
community
wanted
to
do
much
better
than
that,
so
we
really
worked
on
ways
to
help
people
rebuild
together
with
their
neighbors
and
reached
out
to
people
to
make
sure
they
could
get
into
the
process.
I
want
to
give
you
this
picture.
Four
months
in
one
house
was
rebuilt.
This
house
was
in
permit
before
the
fire
started,
so
they
already
had
a
building
permit.
F
They
already
had
drawings,
they
were
ready
to
go
and
and
the
house
that
was
there
burnt
down
and
they
they
had
a
tabula
rasa
to
start
their
construction,
so
they
had
a
roof
on
it
in
four
months.
So
that
is
not
the
norm
and
don't
expect
it
to
happen
that
fast
there's
a
process
you
do
have
to
go
through
the
debris:
removal
getting
your
team
together,
doing
your
pre-construction
services
applying
for
your
permit.
F
You
may
want
to
bid
your
project
out
to
three
different
contractors
or
you
may
want
to
hire
the
contractor.
Who
brings
your
designer
there's
different
ways
to
do
that?
You'll
need
to
investigate
that,
but
that's
going
to
take
a
while,
then
the
construction
phase
once
it
finally
starts
it's
going
to
take
some
time
because
everyone
is
competing
for
materials
and
workmen,
just
like
you
saw
in
the
picture
of
julia
morgan
in
the
tents,
just
think
everybody's
competing
for
the
engineers,
the
architects,
the
contractors,
the
materials
everything
is
going
to
take
some
time.
F
The
typical
custom
home
building
can
be
a
25-year
process.
When
I
lived
in
colorado,
I
lived
there
for
a
decade.
I
built
some
beautiful
homes,
for
people
in
pagosa
springs
colorado,
but
some
of
them
bought
their
land
20
years
before
they
were
ready
to
build.
So
they
spent
a
lot
of
time
imagining
and
thinking
about.
Sometimes
they
spent
two
years
just
designing
it.
F
I
had
some
clients
who
visited
me
as
their
fourth
architect
and
they
got
a
full
set
of
drawings
from
the
previous
architects
if
they
actually
built
what
I
what
I
drew
for
them.
I
was
very
very
excited
and
I
had
some
wonderful
clients
that
did
build
what
I
designed,
but
it
takes
some
time
to
find
the
right
team.
F
Normally,
this
is
the
normal
process,
but
you
have
to
do
it
in
a
different
schedule.
So
this
isn't
how
it
normally
happens,
and
most
of
you
wouldn't
normally
go
and
build
your
own
house
in
a
custom
way.
So
architects
can
provide
you
that
pro
bono
assistance
at
the
front
end
they
can
provide
help
during
the
design
engineering.
They
can
also
protect
you
from
unscrupulous
contractors
which
we
had
a
number
of
in
in
our
community.
F
F
If
you
can't,
if
it's
not
in
your
wheelhouse,
they
can
be
your
team
leader
and
make
sure
that
that
everything's
on
the
up
and
up
and
that
that
is
one
of
their
services
that
they
can
provide,
is
to
protect
you
as
you
go
through
this
process.
There
are
about
20
different
contracts.
You
might
have
to
enter
in
the
process
of
going
from
an
empty
lot
into
a
rebuilt
home
that
you've
moved
into.
F
F
So
in
this
particular
example,
at
the
low
end,
they
they
had
enough
money
from
their
insurance
policy
to
rebuild,
but
at
the
more
custom
end
they
would
have
had
to
put
in
some
more
money.
So
this
is
a
really
important
thing
to
to
get
a
good
handle
on
right.
Now,
a
lot
of
the
money
will
get
paid
out
over
time.
I
advise
you
to
keep
your
mortgage
in
place.
Don't
pay
off
your
mortgage
and
then
go
get
another
loan.
Keep
your
mortgage
in
place.
F
They
will
help
you
rebuild
and
help
you
help
protect
you
from
fraudulent
contractors,
so
keep
your
mortgage
in
place
and
then
the
insurance
checks
go
signed
to
them
and
it's
a
process
to
get
the
money
back,
but
it
does
work.
Thousands
of
people
in
in
sonoma
county
have
gotten
their
houses
rebuilt
with
their
mortgages
in
place,
and-
and
so
I
urge
you
to
keep
it
that
way,
because
it
is
protection.
You
saw
that
at
four
months
one
house
was
built
here
at
15
months.
F
F
There
was
a
4
000
in
the
county,
then
of
our
6
000
and
that
were
down,
but
but
so
you
can
see
it
takes
some
time
to
get
in
through
through
permit
and
into
construction,
and
by
33
months
we
had
1300
completed.
That
means
they
had
certificate
of
occupancy
and
they
could
move
back
in
and
we
still
had
689
in
construction.
So
that's
about
2
000
and
there
were
still
a
few
stragglers
at
three
years,
but
this
is
phenomenal
statistics.
F
This
is
not
the
norm
nationally.
This
is
this
is
because
we
really
worked
our
with
our
government
officials,
with
our
homeowners
with
everyone
in
the
community
to
you
to
really
work
on
the
process
of
getting
people
back
post
disaster
building
really
can
can
be
done
in
eight
to
24
months,
but
you
do
have
to
follow
a
strict
schedule
and
you
have
to
stick
to
it.
F
F
I
was
a
big
advocate
for
a
whole
neighborhood
rebuilding.
How
do
you
get
this
whole
neighborhood
back?
That's
by
these
these
five
homeowners,
all
working
with
the
same
contractor,
then
you
get
more
of
the
street
back
and
it's
better
for
the
real
estate.
So
you
don't
have
to
think
of
yourself
as
alone,
but
you
know
this
also
happens
on
a
mountain
side.
If,
if
you
can
get
some
economies
going
by
working
with
your
neighbors
and
get
more
people
on
your
hillside
back,
that's
that's
really
critical.
F
Finally,
after
the
disaster
is
over,
it's
really
important
to
have
community
review
process
and
really
talk
about
your
lessons.
Learned,
look
at
your
success,
metrics
and
and
just
try
to
identify
what
what
things
need
to
happen
for
the
future,
and
you
know
really
look
at
your
statistics
for
our
neighborhoods
that
had
an
hoa.
We
did
87
to
95
rebuilt
for
our
neighborhoods
that
were
workforce
housing,
which
were
close
together.
F
We
did
80
to
90
rebuilt
in
the
custom
areas.
It
was
more
difficult
and
out
in
the
outlying
areas.
It
was
even
harder
so,
but
we
really
push
these
statistics
and
that's
something
that
you
can
do
in
your
community.
The
more
houses
that
get
rebuilt,
the
better
the
codes
are
changing.
I
also
serve
on
a
hud
committee.
That's
been
working
on
resilient
construction
guidelines
for
the
whole
country
for
every
kind
of
disaster,
and
those
should
be
coming
out.
Pretty
soon
should
help
everybody.
F
C
Thanks
julia
thanks
so
much
for
providing
such
a
really
great
overview
of
the
rebuilding
process
and
your
experience
in
california.
So
next
we
want
to
actually
hear
from
some
boulder
county
staff,
kim
sanchez
and
ron
flax
about
the
rebuilding
and
permitting
efforts
underway
and
how
we're
going
to
move
forward.
And
again,
I
just
want
to
remind
our
speakers
about
the
spanish
translation,
so
so
do
breathe
in
between
sentences
and
take
your
time
and
just
for
folks
who
just
got
into
the
meeting.
C
G
So,
while
gary
is,
is
leading
overall
recovery
ron
and
I
will
be
focusing
along
with
susie
on
the
the
rebuilding
piece-
we've
worked
on
many
past
disasters
so
including
the
the
four
mile
fire
2013
flood
and,
most
recently
the
calwood
fire.
So,
unfortunately,
we
do
have
experience
working
with
property
owners
on
getting
you
back
to
your
home
and
that's
our
interest
here
is
really
trying
to
facilitate
the
process
to
make
things
as
easy
for
you
as
possible,
so
that
you
can
rebuild
and
get
back
into
your
own
home
again.
G
I
know
there
are
some
architects
and
and
builders-
and
some
homeowners
may
be
aware
of
this,
but
you
know
we
have
a
high
demand
of
construction
projects
in
unincorporated,
boulder
county
and
because
we
want
to
prioritize
and
expedite
working
with
this
particular
community
who's
experienced
the
devastation
from
the
marshall
fire.
We
will
be
working
with
you
separately
outside
of
our
typical
review
processes,
which
means
you
won't
need
to
schedule.
A
pre-application
conference
like
you
would
regularly
in
our
department.
H
Yes,
hi
ron
flax
with
with
boulder
county,
so
the
first
steps
for
these
properties
is
is
really
about
getting
the
the
sites
cleaned
up.
A
lot
of
that
information
will
be
talked
about
tomorrow
evening.
As
we
hear
about
the
the
community-wide
debris
removal
program,
we
are
normally
we
issue
what
we
call
deconstruction
permits,
but
in
this
case
it's
gonna
be
a
little
bit
different,
because
these
are
really
about
site
clearing.
H
Normally
we're
not
going
to
be,
you
know,
trying
to
reuse
any
of
these
materials.
So
we
are
right
now
trying
to
coordinate
some
of
the
details
of
those
permits
and
we
expect
to
be
in
a
position
to
start
issuing
issuing
those
permits,
probably
by
the
the
end
of
this
week,
for
those
folks
who
are
who
are
ready,
we're
just
trying
to
align
ourselves
with
that
program
and
answer
some
of
the
the
remaining
questions
to
make
sure
that
we
can.
H
H
We
are
going
to
do
everything
we
can
to
enable
people
to
find
ways
to
manage
this.
Some
sites
are
going
to
be
easier
than
others
in
terms
of
the
size
of
the
site
and
thinking
about
what
kinds
of
water
supply
and
septic
system
are
going
to
be
available
on
the
sites,
but
we
will
be
looking
at
those
permits
and
then
finally,
we
are.
We
are
gearing
ourselves
up
to
to
help
people
with
the
the
actual
new
homes
replacement
homes
and
the
permits
for
that.
H
Right
now
we
currently
are
operating
under
the
the
2015
set
of
codes.
We
had
actually
planned
to
be
adopting
newer
codes,
but
kova
has
has
derailed
that
that
plan
a
couple
of
times
so
right
now
we're
still
under
the
2015
code.
So
that's
that's
what
most
of
you
I
I
expect
will
be
rebuilding
under,
and
you
know
we.
We
do
understand
that.
H
There's
a
lot
of
anxiety
about
meeting
today's
codes
when
we're
starting
from
older
homes
and
as
some
of
the
speakers
indicated,
there
are
there's
a
lot
of
changes
to
those
codes
over
the
years.
Both
structural
changes
electrical
plumbing
energy
efficiency.
These
are
all
things
that
are
that
are
different
in
today's
code.
Compared
to
what
your
house
might
have
originally
been
built
under.
We
are
we're
going
to
do
everything
we
can
to
help
people
understand
those
rules
and
guide
them
through
the
process.
H
H
G
That
is
our
intent
for
this
event,
as
well
is
to
come
up
with
a
specific
set
of
limited
provisions.
That
would
be
a
review
process
for
you
prior
to
getting
your
building
permit.
Now.
The
intent
of
this
is
to
really
evaluate
what
the
important
issues
are
in
your
area
that
we
need
to
address
before
you
can
move
forward
with
your
building
permit.
G
But
this
is
not
intended
to
be.
You
know,
hang
up
for
you,
it's
really
to
help
you
design
in
a
more
resilient
way.
So,
looking
at
some
of
the
you
know,
fire
protection
measures
that
might
be
applicable
in
your
particular
area.
We
also
want
to
make
sure
that
you
are
able
to
rebuild
what
you
had
before
with
some
minimal
oversight
that
we'll
be
able
to
assist
you
with
so
looking
at.
You
know
what
size
of
a
home
did
you
have
previously,
what
height
was
it?
What
location
was
it
in?
G
You
know
we
do
want
to
make
sure
we
try
to
capture
the
changes
that
you're
considering
and
that
you'd
like
to
make
to
your
homes,
so
that
we
can
incorporate
that
into
the
review
in
a
in
a
really
easy
and
streamlined
way
to
get
you
onto
your
building.
Permit
now,
as
ron
and
other
speakers
alluded
to,
there
are
some
steps
that
you'll
need
to
take
before
you
know
before.
Rebuilding
is
actually
physically
possible
on
your
parcel,
but
to
the
extent
that
we
can
help
you
get
geared
up
for
that
rebuilding
process.
G
We're
going
to
be
able
to
do
that.
One
of
the
approaches
that
we're
considering
and
we'd,
like
your
feedback
on,
is
having
case
managers
assigned
to
each
of
you.
So
since
we've
got
a
relatively
large
community
here,
156,
you
know
structures
that
were
lost
and
48
that
were
damaged
on
top
of
the
smoke
damage
that
that
might
have
been
experienced.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
giving
you
the
individual
attention
that
you
may
need
to
answer
some
of
your
questions,
so
please
feel
free
to
give
some
of
that
feedback
in
the
breakout
rooms.
G
Along
with
the
other
questions
that
we
have,
we've
gotten
a
lot
of
specific
questions
from
residents,
architects
and
builders
about
you
know
what
sizes
will
be
allowable.
What
changes
will
be
allowable
those
sorts
of
things.
The
answer
to
that
question
is
we
don't
know
yet
we
want
to
hear
from
you.
So
we
want
to
know
what
it
is
that
you
need
and
and
want
to
move
forward
and
then
we'll
develop
the
approach
to
move
forward
as
quickly
as
we
can.
G
G
What
you
would
need
to
do
in
order
to
assess
your
on-site
wastewater
systems
and
septic
systems
and
also
information
on
how
to
assess
any
damage,
that's
done
to
your
wells
or
water
lines.
So
those
are
information
pieces
that
are
already
on
the
website
and
we
can
discuss
further
in
in
the
breakout
rooms
as
well.
We
do
have
a
handout
that
will
be
coming
out
soon.
That
hopefully,
will
address
some
of
this
in
a
consolidated
manner.
C
Thanks
kim
thanks
ron
and
and
as
I
said,
we,
we
really
want
to
hear
from
you
coming
up
next
about
your
thoughts,
but
before
that
we
we're
also,
as
you
can
imagine,
hearing
about
some
opportunities
to
find
incentives
for
green
building
opportunities.
So
I
want
to
hand
it
over
to
zach
to
share
kind
of
where
we're
at.
I
We're
also
concerned
about
making
sure
that
the
program
that
we
develop
and
the
assistance
we
provide
reaches
those
who
need
it
most,
so
we're
working
to
identify
community
organizations
that
work
with
renters,
low-income
residents
and
others
who
will
need
more
help,
restoring
safe
living
conditions
and
building
back
better
we're
just
getting
started
on
this
work
and
involves
a
lot
of
different
actors
and
and
getting
a
lot
of
approvals.
But
in
one
small
early
win,
we've
worked
with
excel
to
double
their
rebates
for
replacing
insulation
in
homes
that
survived
but
have
smoke
damage.
I
I
You
know
what
gets
developed
and
what
becomes
available
in
the
coming
weeks
and
months
and
we'll
share
that
information
as
as
soon
as
we
have
it
available
and,
like
has
been
said
by
you,
know
my
other
boulder
county
colleagues,
we're
very
curious
to
hear
your
feedback
on
what
are
your
needs
and
challenges
around
building
an
efficient
home
building,
an
electric
home,
you
know
and
and
all
of
the
aspects
there.
So
we
can
make
sure
that
you
know
whatever
support
that.
We're
able
to
provide
is
actually
you
know,
most
impactful
and
most
useful
to
you.
C
Thanks
zach,
so
now
we're
going
to
spend
the
rest
of
the
time
of
asking
for
your
input,
your
questions,
your
concerns,
your
ideas,
your
dreams
and
we're
not
going
to
answer
questions
tonight.
I
know
that
might
be
a
little
frustrating,
but
we
promise
that
we
will
provide
a
frequently
asked
question
document
within
a
week
that
addresses
as
many
of
those
questions
and
ideas
as
possible,
we'll
let
you
know
when
we
post
them
on
the
website.
C
But
what
we've
learned
over
the
course
of
these
events
since
2010
is
that
this
is
a
partnership,
and
we
want
to
start
this
partnership
by
understanding
what
you're
going
through
what
you
need.
So
we
can
craft
the
the
regulations
to
best
serve
you
and,
and
what
we've
learned
is
we
need
to
listen.
So
that's
what
we're
going
to
do
now,
we're
going
to
listen
and
so
we're
going
to
ask
you
to
go
into
a
breakout
room
and
you
will
be
moved
into
a
breakout
room.
There
will
be
a
facilitator
in
it.
There'll
be
a
recorder.
C
C
C
We
will
post
all
this
and
the
presentations
in
the
recording
on
the
website
tomorrow.
If
you
go
on,
the
boco.org
marshallfire
website
will
be
on
the
right
survey.
Link
has
just
been
posted,
so
please
take
it'll.
Probably
take
you
five
minutes
to
complete
that
survey.
It's
just
another
way
of
us
understanding
your
needs,
so
we
can
craft
the
regulations
to
make
this
as
efficient
as
possible
for
your
recovery.
C
C
I
know
it's
hard
to
imagine
right
now,
but
please
please
do
that.
You'll
really
serve
you.
I
mean
I've
had
to
learn
that
the
hard
way
in
this
work,
and
so
I
have
my
little
reminders
and
things
to
do,
but
it's
so
important
and
and,
as
I
said
before,
this
is
the
first
of
many
conversations
we're
going
to
have
with
you.
A
Our
contact
information
is
available
and
what
I've
said
to
some
community
mentors
before
which
I
think
helps
to
know
is
that
gary
and
I,
as
recovery
staff.
We
were
recovering
staff
before
this
fire.
We
will
continue
to
be
recovery.
Staff
going
through
this
fire,
so
boulder
county
has
a
permanent
recovery
function,
so
we're
here
ready
to
help
with
whatever
you
need
as
a
resource,
and
this
is
our
full-time
job-
we're
not
really
assigned
to
this.
This
is
what
we're
here
to
do
in
our
function.
Ethically.