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B
C
D
B
B
C
G
B
B
I
think
we
have
a
few
holdover
items
that
we
we
put
on
our
to-do
list
at
the
end
of
the
last
meeting,
and
that
was
to
investigate
two
additional
cities,
redwood
city
and
san
francisco,
and
I
think
we
should
probably
go
through
those
like
we
did
the
other
cities
so
that
we
have
a
chance
to
discuss
and
look
at
them.
Can
we
can
we
get
those
on
and
let's
see
did
we
did?
We
cover
all
the
other
cities.
I
think
we
did
right.
B
B
B
If
not
that's,
okay,
I
think
I
did
this
city,
so
why
don't
I
walk
through
it?
This
was
redwood
city,
and
I
think
we
added
this
one,
because
commander
garcia
suggested
that
they
were
using
or
they
were
fairly
far
along
in
implementing
a
parking
permit
program
in
terms
of
san
mateo
county.
But,
to
be
honest
with
you,
I
did
not
find
a
whole
lot
of
information
as
it
replied
as
it
applied
to
residential
areas
other
than
those
that
were
affected
by
business
overflow
parking,
so
it
applies
their
their
parking.
B
Permit
program
applies
to
four
areas.
Two
one
or
two
are
in
the
downtown
area
on
the
east
side
of
el
camino
and
then
the
other
remainers
remainder
is
on
the
more
residential
area,
but
on
the
west
side
and
still
due
to
business,
and
I
think
there
might
be
a
school
overflow
parking
that
ends
up
on
the
street.
All
day,
residents
can
initiate
a
program.
They
can
request
a
program
be
initiated
in
their
area.
B
There
are
no
details,
but
it
is
by
petition,
so
I'm
sure
it
has
to
have
a
majority
like
the
other
cities.
Do
the
maximum
number
of
permits
is
not
the
maximum
number
of
permits
is
how
it's
determined.
If
they
don't
state,
the
number
of
permits
per
household
is
three
permits
per
address
and
adus
are
not
specified
in
terms
of
a
separate
address.
B
B
I
think
this
is
more
targeted
at
business,
overflow,
business
district,
overflow
and
they
they
enforce
it
by
having
a
sticker,
there's
a
sticker
that
they
put
on
the
left,
rear
bumper,
so
that
a
car
of
an
enforcement
vehicle
coming
down
the
street
could
see
those
as
it
as
it
drives
down.
The
roadway
funding
is
not
specified
so,
but
since
there
is
no
cost
for
a
permit,
this
would
have
to
be
entirely
funded
out
of
their
city
budget,
and
I
think
that
was
everything
on
redwood
city.
E
It
didn't,
I
did
send
that
over
I'm
wondering
if
maybe
it's
in
my
folder
rather
than
the
new
city
folder
on
sharepoint.
I
think
I
saw
it
there
some
other
day,
so
I
think
it
is.
There
might
just
be
in
the
the
my
research
folder
rather
than
the
new
city
research
folder,
but
we
could
probably
pull
it
up.
E
E
E
So,
like
I
said,
I
think
these
were
sort
of
just
assigned
parking
areas.
So
I
don't
think
it
was
initiated
by
the
citizens.
I
think
it's
just
sort
of
by
the
city
was
determined,
so
you
can
sort
of
say
the
west
side
to
say,
there's
not
much
of
a
parking
permit,
more
sort
of
in
the
business
districts
or
on
the
north
side,
where
it's
a
little
bit
more
busy,
similarly
sort
of
like
in
bernal
or
the
other
neighborhood
sort
of
in
the
southeast.
You
also
don't
see
a
parking
permit
there
again.
E
I
didn't
really
find
specifics
on
how
they
determine
the
maximum
parking
spots,
but
it
is
sort
of
limited
in
that
some
of
them
have
the
smallest
zones
going
into
only
two
per
household,
where
the
larger
zones
are
allowed
for
right,
and
so
it's
basically
four
permits
per
active
residential
household,
except
for
in
any
of
the
units
mentioned.
That's
a
a
ee
and
hv
and
again
those
are
sort
of
little
neighborhoods.
That
perhaps
is
just
in
that
neighborhood
and
they
tend
to
be
quite
small
districts.
E
I
don't
know
if
that
was
maybe
just
number
of
spots
just
limited
in
that
neighborhood.
I
didn't
quite
look
into
that.
Another
interesting
feature
is
that
the
driver
must
be
listed
on
the
insurance
policy
with
matching
the
the
resident's
home
and
then,
of
course
they
could
have
a
second
permit,
so
only
one
permit
per
person,
but
then
a
second
permit
for
a
motorcycle
or
other
people
was
allowed
and
then
again
sort
of
the
cost.
E
So
it
was
100
annual
fee
per
resident,
regardless
of
sort
of
the
zone
or
district
and
then
119
for
the
motorcycles
temporary
permits
you
could
buy
and
each
address
could
purchase
up
to
20
of
those
one
day
permits
an
accumulative
32
weeks
of
weekly
permits
per
year,
but
quite
a
few
there.
But
those
can't
go
towards
cars
that
are
registered
within
the
city.
E
They
have
to
be
sort
of
other,
it's
not
addressed
rather
and
then
yes,
they
are
vehicle
specific,
so
they
are
linked
to
the
address
and
the
insurance
and
the
times
of
effect
are
8,
am
6
pm
monday
through
friday
sort
of
the
standard
business
hours
and
then
yes,
I
couldn't
really
find
the
details.
The
maximum
time,
all
I
said,
was
sort
of
that.
E
Those
will
still
have
physical
permits,
so
teachers,
for
example,
could
apply
for
permits
within
a
residential
zone,
but
otherwise
that's
sort
of
the
breakdown
within
these
zones.
You
know
of
how
they
enforce
in
the
city
and
then
the
link
is
just
sort
of
to
the
general
website
with
more
details
there.
E
Areas
so,
for
example,
area
e
being
maybe
hunters
point
there.
If
you
look
and
that
sort
of
maybe
a
little
bit
north
of
hunter's
point
that
area,
I
guess,
is
limited
to
the
number
of
permits
per
residence.
Otherwise
these
are
just
different
zones,
so
you
would
have
a
permit
for
a
zone
or
c
zone
or
whichever
zone
you
live
in
and
you'd
only
have
a
permit
for
that
zone.
Okay,
okay.
C
E
So
I
guess,
if
there's
additional
drivers
more
than
just
the
sort
of
two
permits
per
household
that
are
allowed
in
those
areas,
you
could
try
to
file
for
an
exception
and
I
guess
they
didn't
specify
what
paperwork
would
be
needed
there
or
whatnot,
but
that
it
could
be
up
to
an
additional
double
the
cost.
Maybe
an
additional
you
know
300
dollars
for
a
secondary
permit.
Then.
C
I
guess
I
had
a
parking
from
half
some
of
the
time
and
like
a
15
unit,
apartment
building
maybe
had
100
feet
of
frontage
and
it
was
actually
it
was
all
there
were
garages.
So
under
this
program,
I
guess
they
could
issue
60,
but
there
weren't
any
parking
spaces
along
the
front
end
of
that
apartment.
Building
like
a
couple,
maybe
so
they
yeah
they
definitely
did
not.
I
mean
to
some
degree
they
consider
the
capacity
I
guess
on
these
smaller
streets,
but
I
think
it's
yeah.
I
think
it's
a
challenge,
you
don't!
C
D
B
Hamas
put
together
not
so
much
a
spreadsheet
kind
of
boiled
things
down
into
a
word
document
and
more
quoted
as
thoughts
for
us
to
consider.
You
know,
and
I
think
he
pulled
in
kind
of
what
all
the
different
cities
were
doing
and
under
each
topic,
and
I
thought
maybe
we
might
go
through
that
tonight.
E
Yes,
I
guess
it's
yeah,
I
haven't
they're
listed
there
and
basically
it's
it's.
An
active
annual
resident
permit.
It's
issued
to
a
single
household
which
is
defined
as
a
single
mailing
address,
so
apartments
on
one
building
count
as
separate
households,
because
by
mailing
address
they
would
then
do
it.
So
each
unit
then,
could
have
up
to
four.
E
A
E
E
E
B
B
C
Don't
know
their
neighbors
enough
and
if
a
whole
zone
is
the
same
unless
you're
right
on
the
border,
you
may
not
even
know
that
that
other
zone
only
gets
super
household.
You
know
I.
I
never
knew
that.
Actually
I
got
one
and
I
lived
in
a
studio
apartment
and
I
didn't
even
remember
how
many,
but
I
potentially
I
could
have
gone
far
from
my
studio
apartment.
That
seems
obsessive.
You
know.
E
F
C
C
C
I
contacted
san
bruno
because
their
public
works
directors
work
in
brisbane
all
15
years
ago,
and
I
asked
him
about
their
parking
permit
program
and
I
got
some
specifics
in
that
prior
public
works
director
he's
pretty
new
he's
in
their
last
year,
got
the
policy
adopted
and
that's
all
they
have
at
this
point
is
a
policy.
They
have
a
neighborhood
adjacent
to
tanfran,
and
I
hadn't
heard
this
before,
but
tan
friend
is
going
to
be
redeveloped
to
like
biotech
or
something
so.
C
Their
public
works
director
now
told
me,
is
you
know
we
don't
have
any
infrastructure
we
might
see
if
south
san
francisco's
program
could
register
those
permits
and
that
their
lieutenant
was
the
one
that's
been.
You
know,
has
the
institutional
knowledge
of
developing
program
to
the
state
that
it
is,
and
I
did
contact
commander
garcia
and
he
is.
He
knows
the
lieutenant
at
san
bruno,
so
he's
going
to
make
contact
with
him.
C
They
right
now
they
enforce
on
parking
meters,
and
I
guess
there
was
some
kind
of
ruling
about
talking
cars,
so
they're
going
to
license
plate
readers
also
and
they're.
Looking
at
using
this
contractor
larp
to
do
the
meters
and
then
to
do
if
they
had
a
neighborhood
program.
Also
do
that
so
they're
pretty
they're
in
their
infancy
too.
In
terms
of
like
having
a
program
and
being
able
to
tell
us
how
it
works
and
what
the
issues
are
with
it,
so
there
wasn't
a
lot
of
great
information
there.
C
So
I
did
wander
over
to
south
san
francisco's
and
they're,
using
a
contractor
to
issue
permits
it's
ialp
ipl,
something
like
that.
So
there's
a
website
and
but
their
parking
permits
wasn't
clear
if
they're,
residential
or
commercial
but
they're
for
a
couple
of
garages
and
parking
lots
and
you
can
get
one
for
a
month
or
for
three
months.
So
it
probably
is
people
that
are.
I
guess
it
could
be
neighbors
that
live
in
the
area,
but
it
might
be
people
that
are
coming
in
and
working
in
south
san
francisco.
C
I
didn't
look
up
the
locations,
so
they
don't
have
daily.
You
know
daily
street
parking.
These
are,
for
particular
lots
where
they're
trying
to
manage
the
parks
there
not
on
a
daily
basis,
but
on
a
monthly
or
a
quarterly
basis,
but
they
do
have
the
infrastructure
that
we,
you
know
we
could
find
out
the
price.
B
You
know
I'm
wondering
I
think
this
came
up
last
at
our
last
meeting
well
to
listen
to
one
of
these
service
providers.
I
think,
would
be
beneficial
to
us
in
the
sense
of
what
what
has
worked.
What
hasn't
worked,
not
I'm
not
looking
for
a
presentation
of
a
program
for
brisbane,
but
rather
what
are
the?
What
is
the
knowledge
that
has
been
gained
from
someone
who
has
implemented
many
of
these
in
a
variety
of
of
cities?
B
C
So
I'm
not
sure
that
those
contracts
do
that
it
really
felt
like
if
we
wanted
to
hire
them.
We
would
say
this
is
what
you
issue.
This
is
what
the
positives
you
program
it
into
your
website
and
when
someone
goes
in
to
buy
one,
those
parameters
then
help
to
issue
them
that
permit.
I
don't
think
that
they
have
any.
C
G
B
C
G
F
Yeah,
my
my
understanding
from
commander
garcia
was
that
you
know
somebody's
got
a
contract
burns.
They
you
know
they
pretty
much
are
very
vertically
integrated.
They
they
do
a
host.
You
know
they.
They
cast
a
pretty
big
service
on
on
this
type
of
need.
You
know
from
enforcement,
you
know
different
management
and
very
versatile
nowadays
with
the
technology
and
you
know,
etc,
etc.
So
there
might
be
different
type
of
contractors,
but
they're,
probably
the
ones
that
you
know
that
they
do
a
lot
of
it.
F
C
So
this
was
one
company
that
issues.
So
then,
if
we
decided
we
had
a
program
for
all
of
the
residential
republicans
in
brisbane
it
could
be
done
at
the
counter.
The
city,
manager's
office,
the
police
department,
or
you
could
have
know,
we've
turned
over
our
business
licenses
to
a
contractor,
you'll
buy
online,
you
need
a
business
license
and
we
get
the
data
and
collect
these.
C
That
would
be
something
like
that
where,
okay,
if
you
want
to,
if
you
want
a
permit
park
on
the
street,
go
to
this
website,
you
just
you
permit,
and
then
you
don't
have
to
have
staff,
but
you
know
you
like
and
mario
did
say
that
sergeant
I
mean
amanda.
Garcia
did
say
that
about
enforcement
piece.
If
you
use
a
contractor
and
then
the
program
changes,
then
you
can.
You
know
you
haven't
hired
several
full-time
staff
people
and
want
to
do
whatever.
E
B
D
B
C
G
B
A
Yeah
sure
so
yeah,
basically
like
what
patrick
was
basically
saying
it's
just
through
all
our
research
kind
of
what
we
figured
that
we
must
consider
in
every
category
of
a
parking
permit
program
so
I'll
just
start
off
with
permit
costs
and
program
administration
expense.
This
is
just
some
of
the
from
our
research,
some
of
the
things
that
other
cities
would
be
doing,
so
we
would
have
permanent
pace
fees
for
all
the
for
all
the
program.
Administrative
costs
either
permit
fees
as
well
as
citation
fees.
A
F
So
I
guess
I'll
make
a
general
a
general
comment,
and-
and
this
is
probably
you
know
more
of
a
of
the
organization
of
the
data
and-
and
I
don't
know
how
difficult
I
will
be
at
this
point,
but
if
you
would
probably
have
helped
us
to
have
like
in
parenthesis
the
city,
because
then
you
could
follow
the
different
cities
and
and
have
an
idea.
You
know,
connect
the
dots
and
have
an
idea
what
they,
what
they
did.
But
overall,
I
think
this
this
summer
is
very
comprehensive
and
it's
very
good.
F
D
D
B
B
But
still
you
know
it
was
initially
very
cheap
for
the
city
to
implement,
and
so
I
thought
we
might
just
talk
about
these
a
little
bit.
I
don't
know
we
are
a
small
city,
I
don't
know
if
it's
real
realistic,
that
a
program
would
be
self-supporting
or
not.
Maybe
karen,
you
have
better
knowledge
of
what
how
many,
what
that
might
entail
or
what
might
occur
there
or.
C
C
C
That's
the
finance
department
from
their
perspective,
you
know,
do
they,
they
encourage
us
to
be
revenue
neutral,
and
what
would
that
look
like
I
mean,
I
think.
If
you
asked
me,
recent
budget
presentations
by
the
city
seem
to
indicate
that
they
probably
wouldn't
want
to
find
a
whole
bunch
of
new
funds
to
run
this
program.
You
know
because
I
think,
if
you
use
the
city
budget,
you
know
this
program
is
for
central
brisbane.
It's
not
for
all
the
residents
in
the
city.
C
You
know
this
is
that
what
the
community
would
want
to
recommend
that
the
users
are
paying
for
it
by
the
permanent
fee
or
or
at
least
paying
for
part
of
it
or
or
do
we
really
want,
like
people
are
going
to
be
somewhat
unhappy
and
we
wanted
to
be
afraid
to
get
a
permit
and
find
the
funds
a
different
way.
I
mean,
I
think,
that's
kind
of
what
and
again
so.
This
part
is
for
residential.
F
Yeah,
so
I
mean
those
are
those
are
good
points.
I
don't
know
if
I
understood
your
question
pat,
so
you
bet
you're
asking
if
you
know
what
are
we
inclining
if
it's
something
that
we
feel
the
city
you
know
can
run
this
program
or
because
some
of
the
feedback
we've
received
from
commander
garcia,
most
likely
we're
going
to
go
the
route
of
doing
you
know
contractor
company
that
they
do
this
right.
So.
C
B
F
Is
on
the
side
he
knew
yeah.
Well,
I
I
gathered
the
question
differently
and
wanted.
You
know
be
able
to
develop
my
thought
so
so
I
guess
you
know
that's
the
way
I
see
you
know
like
you
know,
that's
that's
one
real
question,
but
but
you
know
I
do
have
a
business
and
I
understand
what
you're
saying
in
terms
of
you
know:
processing
the
license
itself.
That
is
just
a
you
know.
That's
a
website
that
you
go
on
and
pay
for
it.
F
It's
probably
a
straightforward
thing
to
do,
but
when
it
comes
to
you
know
a
residential
parking
permit
with
a
lot
of
other
components.
You
know
that
we
have
been
talking
about
here
and
I
just
probably
mentioned
some
of
them
like
you
know,
guest
parking
and
you
got
the
business
parking
and
then
you
got.
You
know
how
you
see
the
issue,
the
et
cetera,
et
cetera.
So
my
my
phone
with
that
is
that
enforcement
has
to
be
tied
with
it
and
then
you
have
other.
So
it
would
make
sense.
F
So
it's
very
tight
tight
with
the
enforcement
of
it.
So
if
you're
gonna,
you
know
issue
just
a
parking
permit,
which
sounds
like
the
city
is
moving
away
from
that
and
it's
gonna
have
I
mean
san
francisco
is
moving
away
from
that
and
it's
gonna
have
light
readers
so
there's
that
technology
you
know
to
allow
that
you
might
not
even
need
a
a
parking
speaker.
F
You
know
so
then
I
think
the
enforcement
part
you
know
plays
a
you
know,
a
big
part
of
it
and
then
having
like
a
map
that
the
city
has
with
a
different
zoning
and
then
issuing
the
you
know
the
the
the
different
amount
of
parking
for
embroiding
and
all
that
that's
going
to
be.
You
know
a
very
comprehensive
exercise
to
get
to
the
to
the
point
and
obviously
somebody's
going
to
have
to
pay
for
it.
F
Like
in
the
case
of
of
the
street
lights,
there
are
some
contractors
that
they
do
that
they
take
at
the
you
know,
the
the
people
that
run
the
red
light,
and
sometimes
those
sensors
are
very
sensitive.
You
know
so
in
this
case,
if
they're
ready,
if
the
contractor
is
going
to
you
know,
get
money
for
the
people
that
they're
ticketing
that
they're
not
that
they
don't
have
a
parking
permit
or
stuff
like
that.
We
just
have
to
you
know,
be
careful
that
the
incentive
is
not
the
wrong
one.
D
D
D
Yeah,
I
that
was
my
understanding
that
it
might
be
a
good
plan
that
might
be
coming
in
soon.
It'd
be
nice.
If
permits
were
no
that'd
be
great,
but
there
are
fees
attached
to
it,
and
I
really,
I
think,
like
every
other
fee,
it
would
be
good
to
have
it
and
come
into
the
city
and
and
come
through
a
portal.
D
The
the
concern
that
I
have
is
will
this
have
an
effect
on
businesses
on
the
main
street,
and
how
do
we
deal
with
permit
for
businesses
who
are
trying
to
make
a
living
and
midtown
obviously
has
a
parking
lot?
So
there's
probably
not
a
problem
there,
but
I'm
not
sure
I
guess
there's
a
lot
to
digest
here
and
then
I.
D
E
Yeah,
I
mean
I'm
sort
of
thinking
yeah.
So
as
the
more
thing
about
this
list,
I
guess
it
is
quite
a
long
list
of
different
parameters,
I'm
starting
to
wonder
how
do
we
sort
of
stack
rank
fees
and
start
thinking
about
those
things
and
then,
of
course,
with
costs.
I
just
it's
my
concern
with
the
the
sort
of
the
cost
is.
I
just
have
no
concept
how
much
this
could
cost
from
both
the
enforcement
and
both
aspects
of
it.
E
I
just
have
no
concept
of
the
scale
we're
talking
about
here
and
maybe
that's
what
we
can
get
from
the
you
know
from
one
of
these
vendors
that
could
at
least
ballpark
us
how
much
like
an
annual
fee
or
something
would
go
for,
but-
and
I
guess
the
thing
I
keep
coming
back
to
my
mind-
is:
are
we
are
we
set
that
we
want
to
do
a
different
commercial
versus
residential
program?
Is
there
possibly?
That
would
be
just
one
program,
I
guess
has
that
been.
You
know
have
we
ironed
that
out
as
well?
E
B
B
C
F
Expensive,
I
I
mean
I
got
one
for
for
hot
parked
on
the
restaurant.
I
think
it
was
like
a
hundred
and
something
but
but
then
you
know,
there's
other
ones
like
if
your
license
plates
expire,
like
like
that's
like
70,
but
in
terms
of
you
know
I
you
know.
I
think
our
scope
is
from
from
what
I
gather
you
know
is
mainly
presidential,
but
obviously
we
have
to
consider
other
things,
but
in
terms
of
commercial.
The
way
I
seen
that
handle
is
a
lot.
F
You
know
a
lot
of
it
to
just
meter.
You
know
and
then
just
having
clear,
clear
marks
on
the
street.
If
you're
you
know
on
a
red
zone
or
you
know,
there's
a
fire
hydrant
fire,
hydrant
and
stuff
like
that.
Without
you
know,
that's
that's
an
idea.
You
know
just
have
like
straightforward
meters.
You
know,
then
you
you
can
play
around
with
the
different
time
that
you
enforce.
That
meter.
C
Can
I
add
something
on
that?
I
think
a
little
bit
of
what
some
of
the
commercial
ones
get
at
is.
I
think,
there's
two
things
right
that
most
people
visiting
those
businesses
aren't
taking
neighborhood
parking,
but
also,
if
you,
if
you
just
have
meters
and
then
everywhere
else,
was
a
residential
parking
zone.
G
C
B
E
C
C
Complaint
basis,
so
if
a
business
has
a
problem,
they
can
get
a
car
to
move.
There
are
a
couple
you
know,
there's
a
couple
that
are
maybe
subscribed.
24
minutes,
I
think
in
front
of
the
deli,
and
then
we
did.
We
previously
would
take
it
during
the
street
sweeping
time,
but
it
was
three
to
six
a.m.
So
it
wasn't
when
the
businesses
were.
B
B
That's
a
that's
frankly,
a
lot
of
money
right
and
for
a
lot
of
people,
and
if
somebody
has
a
couple
cars
you're
up
to
320
dollars
every
year
for
our
household,
which
I
think
is
is
a
lot,
but
if
we're
not
charging
for
it,
then
it's
got
to
come
out
of
the
city's
general
fund,
which
is
also
limited
right.
So
you
know
I
don't
know
if
we're
going
to
actually
be
able
to
make
these
recommendations
on
this.
B
This
item
for
city
council
understands
the
budget
and
all,
but
I
think
we
can
put
in
comments
about
impact
on
people's
ability
to
pay
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
You
know
the
other
side
of
this
is:
is
the
cost
of
the
permit
cheaper
than
than
a
ticket?
So
christian
mentioned
something
35.
Well,
if
you've
got
a
160
dollar
permit
well
I
can
get
you
know
six
tickets
before
I
paid
for
a
permit.
You
know
right.
I
mean
a
lot
of
people.
Think
of
things
that
way.
D
C
C
G
B
A
Yeah,
real
quick,
so
starting
with
the
one
option,
is
fixed
number
first
household,
regardless
of
existing
on-site
parking
or
street
capacity.
I
definitely
saw
that
somewhere
in
one
of
the
research
items
like
somewhere
called
which
city,
but
that
was
one
I
recall,
determined
fixed
number.
Two
three
four
other
number
departments
depends
upon
the
outside
parking
at
that
address
in
particular,
so
I
mean
obviously
it'll
depend
across
homes
in
a
in
an
area.
Number
of
permits
depends
upon
street
capacity
per
block.
A
Number
of
permits
depends
upon
the
street
capacity
per
zone.
Do
so,
then
that
would
be
like
self-defined,
that's
more
of
one
that
would
go
towards.
The
public
number
of
permits
depends
upon
street
capacity
in
all
of
central
brisbane,
that's
looking
bigger
picture,
and
then
max
number
of
permits
relates
to
the
number
of
dwelling
units.
E
The
one
that
strikes
me
immediately
is
sort
of
too
too
much.
Perhaps
work
or
two
might
be
too
difficult.
Is
the
on-site
parking
at
particular
address
or
property?
I
just
don't
know
how
you
know
we'd
be
able
to
quickly
assess
that
and
sort
of
distribute
the
number
of
permits
there
and
then
also
manage
that.
Obviously
the
company
could
do
some
of
that,
but
that
strikes
me
as
a
little
too
complex.
Perhaps
yeah
I
mean
I
I
come
back
to
sort
of
san
francisco
where
they
just
seem
to
court.
E
B
You
know
I
once
lived
in
in
the
sunset
in
what
was
what's
called
a
mother-in-law
apartment
where
they
finished
the
behind
the
garage.
You
know
it's
a
one-car
tandem
garage
right
and
at
the
back
of
the
house,
you
can
finish
it,
so
it
was
on
taraval
street.
I
forget
what
the
number
was,
but
they
just
put
a
letter
behind
it
like
1905,
a
a
was
my
address,
but
on
the
front
on
the
door
with
a
mail
slot.
E
C
But
and-
and
I
said
last
time
that
I
would
look
into
what
we
did
and
I
didn't
find
very
much
in
the
files,
but
we,
our
former
transportation
engineer,
justin,
figured
out
counted,
measured
the
capacity
of
the
six
streets
that
we
studied
for
the
sea
household
to
come
up
with
whether
they
were
90
or
100
full
or
whatever.
The
number.
G
C
That's
exhaustive
and
yeah
one
of
the
things
about.
I
I'd
heard
the
concept
loaded
of
you
know.
If
you
have
wall
street
parking,
you
have
a
two-car
garage,
two
driveway
spaces.
You
should
get
less
permits,
but
all
of
that
can
change
somebody.
You
know
like
you
got
to
track
that
you
could.
Even
if
you
did
the
exhaustive
research
once
somebody
builds
something
different
and
just
it
seems
challenging
to
to
go
measure.
All
of
that.
C
B
F
So
I
find
the
one
number
of
permits
depend
on
the
street
capacity
person
would
be
interesting
because
you
know
you're
gonna
have
those
apartment
buildings
that
you
need
to
figure
out.
How
is
that
gonna
play
out,
but
then
you're
gonna
have
situations
like
where
I
live,
that
like
I
live
in
mariposa,
but
then
you
have
the
other
street
solano
and
there's
always
parking
over
there.
F
F
So
I
think
that
you
know
that
one
with
the
sony
that
you
know
that
sort
of
gives
you
more
flexibility
how
to
manage
those
different
conditions
that
this
town
for
sure
has
you
know
that
one
you
know.
I
think
that
one
is
it's
interesting,
but
the
other
question
about
if
you
have
a
garage
right,
because
that
I'm
assuming
we're
going
to
provide
some
information
for
council
and
then
they
have
to
brush
it
out
with
lego.
F
C
E
E
D
There's
a
lot
here
to
take
into
consideration
a
lot
of
people
have
garages
that
are
full.
We
can't
force
them
to
empty
them
and
use
their
garage.
Nor
would
that
be
fair.
However,
if
they're
going
to
block
the
sidewalk
or
take
this
street
parking
place,
I
I
think
we
have
to
remember
the
priority
of
a
pedestrian
walkways
and
there's
a
lot
of
sidewalks
blocked
right
now,
which
is
kind
of
frustrating
for
me
to
see.
D
Maybe
people
respond
and
put
down
all
of
our
ideas
about
each
one
of
these
number
of
permit
things,
because
there's
so
much
to
discuss
here-
and
there
are
so
many
what
about
this?
What
about
that?
Some
people
don't
have
parking
at
all
some
people.
Have
it
don't
use
it
like?
I
said
it's
spaghetti,
so
in
order
to
be
fair
to
everyone,
how
do
we
do
this
and.
D
A
separate
focus
where
we
spend
some
time
individually
looking
at
these
and
if
moss
will
send
this
out,
I
don't
have
it
then
I
can
look
at
it
and
kind
of
think
about
each
one
of
these
items
and
if
everybody
else
can
do
that,
maybe
we
can
come
up
with
some
consensus
about
how
to
figure
out
the
number
permit
for
each
property
and
there's
going
to
be
special
circumstances.
So
I
think
that
all
needs
to
be
thought
about.
Also,
thank
you.
E
Sorry,
I
don't
know
I
might
myself
myself
for
a
second.
I
was
just
saying
with
regards.
I
love
the
idea
of
linda
in
terms
of
going
through
and
sort
of
saying
some
effort
were
you
thinking
about
like
going
through
and
just
commenting
or
actually
maybe
ranking
the
top
choices
within
the
category
that
we
think
or
sort
of?
How
are
you
thinking
about?
We
can
each
add
to
this
without
them.
D
D
Tomas
prepared
it
would
be
some
good
homework
to
accomplish
before
our
next
meeting.
This
is
not
going
to
be
easy
or
fast.
You
know.
All
input
is
important
on
this.
It's
going
to
affect
a
lot
of
people,
we're
going
to
upset
a
lot
of
people,
and
there
might
be
some
that
are
happy
with
it.
But
parking
is
a
real,
difficult
issue
to
deal
with.
B
G
B
B
B
Okay,
there
we
go
okay,
so
you
know
I
I've
I've
always
kind
of
gone
to
this
thing.
It's
one
once
one
program
fits
everybody,
because
the
problem,
as
I
see
it
from
the
parking
survey
that
we
did
it's
just
kind
of
everywhere
in
in
in
central
brisbane
right
now,
that's
been
my
impression
there
isn't
any
place,
that's
significantly
better
than
any
place
else
in
terms
of
street
parking.
For
what
I
have
seen.
B
However,
as
I,
as
I
read
this
one
one
thing
that
pops
out
to
me
that
I
like
is
that
if
you've
got
a
garage,
whether
it's
filler
or
not,
you
have
the
ability
to
park
off
three
one
way
or
another,
and
maybe
those
buildings,
those
dwellings,
get
less
permits
than
the
ones
that
were
constructed
without
a
garage,
because
we
have
both
in
town-
and
you
know,
I'm
I'm
coming
so
you
know
linda.
I
know
you
said.
B
Maybe
that's
not
fair,
and
I
know
what
you're
thinking
there
and
I
agree
with
that,
but
I'm
coming
back
to
what
is
the
mind
of
counsel
here
and
that
when
they
were
had
their
council
meeting
discussion
directing
us
to
do
this.
One
of
the
the
comments
I
think
that
came
up
several
times
is
that
there
are
people
with
garages
full.
There
are
people
with
garages
full
and
then
okay,
so
why
not
give
them
an
incentive
to
empty
it?
It's
not
a
requirement.
B
D
Don't
use,
I
don't
even
remember
what
I
said
about
that,
but
it
was
never
my
intention
to
insinuate
that
they
should
be
given
any
special
treatment
if
they
choose
to
fill
their
garage
and
not
use
that
for
parking
as
intended,
and
it
can
be
used
or
utilized
before
parking.
Some
garages
just
don't
work,
then
I
I
think
they
need
to
pay
for
a
permit
to
be
on
the
street
and
store
this
like
a
storage
fee.
Yes,
yes,
I
agree
with
you.
I.
B
Mean
you
know
a
rental
store,
I've,
never
rented
storage
in
california.
I've
had
them
in
colorado
and
other
cities.
I've
lived
in,
you
know,
I
don't
know
what
they
cost
here,
but
I
imagine
it's
pretty
pricey,
like
the
one
over
on
carter
across
the
hill
from
us.
There's
that
storage
place.
Imagine
it's
pretty
expensive,
but
it
is
accessible.
You
know.
B
A
Yeah,
I
could,
I
did
look
at
a
little
bit
into
it
once
that
first
came
up,
it
seems
like
it's
pretty
like
like
there's.
Definitely
like
some,
even
like
almost
like
a
formula
like
an
empirical
formula
that
can
be
used
for
this
kind
of
stuff.
I
didn't
go
much
deeper
into
that,
because
I
didn't
know
how
much
we
needed
this
meaning,
but
I
mean
because
it
does
seem
like
we're.
Moving
a
little
bit
ahead.
Definitely
like
have
like
a
concrete
answer.
Next
time
we
meet.
C
A
C
Are
these
you
know,
would
these
be
big?
Would
these
be
or
do
we
want
to
just
have
to
get
a
permit?
You
can
park
anywhere
in
central
brisbane
and
remember
so.
The
yellow
are
private
streets,
so
you
know
I
was
looking
at
what
he
had
done
and
I
think
the
back
side
of
san
bruno
doesn't
have
any
public
parking
at
all.
So
it's
kind
of
not
part
of
our.
G
B
B
And
then
you
get
into
the
issue
of
boundary
effect,
so,
for
instance,
somebody
who's
in
the
middle
of
a
zone
can
go
in
multiple
directions
to
find
additional
parking:
north
south
east
west
a
full
360
right,
whereas
somebody
who's
on
a
boundary,
they
can
only.
They
only
have
180
degrees
of
parking
selection
right.
B
F
F
The
people,
you
know
would
have
some
somewhat
a
number
of
parking
that
they
could
choose
from
that
zone,
because
sometimes
you
know,
depending
on
the
conditions
of
that
area,
there's
going
to
be
streets
that
they're
going
to
have
no
parking,
there's
going
to
be
speed
that
they're
going
to
be
tight,
but
there's
going
to
be
streets
that
are
parking
available
and
you
know
and
that's
a
fine
line
to
dance
on
you
know.
So
I'm
not
saying
you
know
that's
going
to
be
easy
either,
but
the
other
question
in
the
other.
F
C
B
B
D
D
I
mean
this
is
a
small
community
where
a
lot
of
people
know
each
other,
and
sometimes
I'm
invited
to
gathering
on
humboldt
road,
there's
very
little
parking
around
the
property
and
and
it's
a
long
distance
for
me
to
walk
from
one
end
of
town
to
the
other,
and
I,
how
do
we
deal
with
community
interaction
with
zone
it?
I
don't.
G
D
F
Comment
on
that,
I
think
that
probably
falls
on
their
guest
party
right,
because
you
will
also
be
a
little
counterproductive
to
build.
You
know
to
build
a
system
for
every
condition.
You
know.
That's
just
not.
I
mean
peaceable
it's
difficult,
also
to
distinguish
if
your
guest
is
a
brisbane
resident
or
a
from
out
of
town,
but
then
you
also
also
have
the
time
frame.
You
know
you,
I
guess
people
who
are
on
the
street
into
a
certain
time
and
then
then
then
you,
the
enforcement,
kicks
in
maybe.
C
C
B
D
Yeah
there's
something
there.
This
is
a
very
social
community
and
you
never
know
where
you're
gonna
end
up,
sometimes
at
whose
house
what
street,
and
because
it's
so
hilly
it
makes
it
difficult
for
someone
over
65
to
walk
that
far
and
then
walk
back
home,
and
I
see
that
as
a
problem,
especially
if
someone
has
disabilities
or
something
like
that,
can't
walk
it's
something
we
need
to
look.
D
E
No,
I
guess,
as
you
guys
were
talking
about
this
when
this
video
is
you're
mentioning
this-
I
kind
of
came
back
to
the
enforcement
side
as
well.
I
mean
is
this
also
going
to
be
right
like
just
because
you're
parking
there
for
someone
else
to
call
your
car
and
say
hey
first
sparking
my
neighborhood
then
or
is
it
maybe
reinforcement
would
be
constant
rolling,
but
I
wonder
how
much
of
that
would
just
be.
You
know
if
it's
not
like
a
huge
nuisance
or
or
if
it's
not
being
called
on.
E
B
Again
thought
I
had
on
my
mind
is
that
this
would
be
overnight
parking
permit,
isn't
that
kind
of
really
the
problem
for
all
of
most
most
people,
you
come
home,
came
home
from
work
before
covet
and
couldn't
find
a
place
to
park.
Isn't
that
is
it?
I
mean.
Is
that
the
majority
of
the
problem,
you
guys
think
or
or
not
or.
B
Too
yeah
you
know
that
factors
into
what
the
cost
of
the
program
would
be
too
right.
If
we've
got
the
service
company
patrolling
if
they
are
constantly
patrolling
the
city,
24
7,
that
would
have
a
much
different
cost
than
if
somebody
has
to
do
the
city
on
a
once
through
starting
at
10
a.m,
10
p.m
or
something
you
know,
and.
D
If
someone
like
that,
I
care
about
lives
somewhere
in
town
away
from
me
and
they've
just
had
surgery
and
need
me
to
spend
the
night
check
on
them
throughout
the
night
or
give
medication,
or
something
like
that.
How
does
that
work
with
the
parking
I
mean
it
is
spaghetti
again,
it's
we
need
to
noodle
out
who?
How
do
we
deal
with
these
circumstances
of
being
social
or
being
helpful?
D
C
B
I
was
wanting
to
leave
time
for
the
other
things.
Maybe
this
is
a
good
time
to
stop.
The
committee
agrees
to
stop
our
discussion
pause
our
discussion
next
time
and
maybe
in
the
interim,
all
of
us
can
go
thomas.
Could
you
distribute
this
to
us
again
and
the
actually
maybe
actually
send
us
the
paper
document
a
hard
copy
in
an
email
again
and
then
we
can
go
through
it
and
do
like.
I
think,
linda,
suggested,
ranking
it
putting
our
thoughts
between
now
on
the
next
meeting.
B
B
A
A
C
C
D
C
Yeah
we
estimated
that
it's
homeless
was
it
so
was
all
of
them
would
not
get
shelters,
but
we,
you
know
we
have
to
do
some
ada
improvements.
So
if
there's
a
bench
on
the
sidewalk,
you
need
to
make
a
pad
behind
the
sidewalk.
So
there's
still
a
housing
room
for
a
wheelchair,
so
that
costs
money.
I
think
it
was.
It
was
kind
of
the
stops
in
proctor
park.
C
B
G
A
Yeah,
it
was
going
really
slow.
I
made
sure
to
bring
it
up.
Well,
we're
still
talking,
but
so
yeah.
It's
from
all
the
most
of
the
things
that
will
basically
concern
us
is
everything
that
is
posted
in
these
folders.
I
was
just
looking
at
before.
It
shows
up
right
here,
but
to
keep
it
as
simple
as
possible.
C
G
A
Okay
yeah,
so
here
this
is,
and
this
is
just
what
happens
when
you
click
documents,
which
is
everything
you
see
on
the
home
page.
Obviously,
there's
options
to
upload
new
folders
upload
new
files.
That'd,
probably
mostly
be
for
me,
though,
as
far
as
as
we
get
more
information,
more
data,
but
yeah
this
all
this
stuff
right
here,
like
recycle
bin,
you
can
pretty
much
ignore
site
contact.
I
mean
I
clicked
on
them.
There's
nothing
really
substantial
as
far
as
sharing
information
and
and
yeah.
A
So
this
is,
I
would
primarily
just
focus
on
this
document
tab
right
here
in
the
home
tab
and
anything
that
is
in
document.
Tab
is
also
in
the
home,
so
they
all
kind
of
lead
to
the
same
spot
and
yeah
that's
pretty
much
it
there's!
No
there's
no
way
for
us
to
chat,
which
I
know
is
the
goal
so
that
that's
good
and
yeah
that's
pretty
much.
It.
B
A
Okay,
yeah
so
yeah,
you
would
be
on
this
document
page.
The
one
right
here
on
the
you
see
on
your
left
hand,
side
make
a
new
folder.
You
would
just
start
with
new
and
then
it
kind
of
gives
you
an
option
so,
depending
on
where
your
system
is,
it
might
just
bring
up
that
excel
sheet.
If
you
want
to
work
straight
from
here,
but
you
would
just
hit
right
here
on
folder.
G
A
A
So
yeah
this
document,
one
is
sort
of
like
the
home
base
of
folders
and
then
you
would
just
hit
new
and
so
now
we're
in
this
example
folder
and
you
can
kind
of
navigate
where
you
are.
You
see
this
thread.
You
were
just
in
documents
and
now
we're
in
the
example
folder,
and
if
I
want,
I
can
make
another
one
make
another
folder
and
then
same
idea
and
then
to
upload
anything.
A
Go
back,
this
darkened
folder
right
here
and
you'll,
see
that
it's
this
it's
black
and
this
one
behind
it
to
the
left
is
gray.
This
means
you're
essential
and
there's
an
error
leading
into
example.
This
essentially
means
you
are
in
you
were
you
were
in
documents
and
now
you're
in
example,
so
to
go
backwards,
I
mean
you
could
either
just
press
this
or
you
just
hit
your
back
arrow
and
it
should
take
you
back
to
the
same
spot
and
then
you're
back
here
on
documents.
F
A
A
A
I
know
we
were
kind
of
having
tr
I
I
was
having
trouble
with
that
as
well,
and
I
swear
I
just
all
of
a
sudden
appeared,
so
I
can
get
back
to
you
with
an
answer
on
that,
because
I
know
I
think
karen
was
having
trouble
with
it
at
one
point
as
well.
Yeah
I'll
make
a
note
to
follow
up
with
you
on
that
make
sure
you
get
access.
B
B
C
C
A
A
B
A
B
A
B
G
B
You've
been
able
to
log
in,
I
assume
right,
yeah,
okay,
I
assume
the
only
thing
I
would
recommend
the
the
password
that
was
given
to
me
was
just
really
simple
and
I
I'm
sure
everybody
is
the
same
and
the
idt
guys
name
he
sent
out
a
thing
on.
You
can
come
into
city
hall,
there's
a
kiosk
there.
You
can
go
in
and
change
your
password.
You
have
to
do
it
in
city
hall.