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00:00:00 MEETING SETUP AND INTRODUCTION
00:04:15 CALL TO ORDER
00:04:40 ROLL CALL
00:05:38 ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA
00:06:45 ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
00:07:18 APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES
A. Minutes of July 6, 2022
00:09:58 OLD BUSINESS
B. Investigation of Residential Parking Permit program for Central Brisbane
NEW BUSINESS
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01:31:00 STAFF UPDATES
01:33:55 CHAIR AND COMMITTEE MEMBER MATTERS
NEXT MEETING: September 7, 2022
ADJOURNMENT
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A
A
If
the
matter
you
are
interested
in
is
not
on
the
committee's
agenda
but
is
a
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that
is
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C
D
A
For
those
of
you
who
have
attended
our
meetings
in
the
past,
you
know
we
have
a
new
member
and
I'd
like
to
formally
welcome
him
to
the
committee.
Gregory
strecker
is
joining
us
for
the
first
time.
Thank
you
for
joining
the
committee.
We
appreciate
your
volunteering
and
we
hope
we
look
forward
to
working
with
you.
Thank
you.
E
F
C
F
F
A
A
H
A
A
E
C
C
H
H
H
B
H
E
D
H
F
H
E
H
E
A
A
A
H
I
just
have
one
comment
I
wanted
to
say
you
know
we
didn't
put
an
easy
play
or
a
logical
place
on
the
agenda
for
gregory,
but
I
think
on
his
term
we
did
have
kind
of
a
brief
orientation
and
we
talked
kind
of
tried
to
get
a
little
bit
up
to
speed
on
what
we
were
working
on
with
this
parking
permit
proposal
and
he
had
some
interesting
experiences
in
other
cities.
So
I
think
when
it
gets
to
his
turn,
he
should
tell
the
committee
what
you
know.
D
D
What
we
talked
about
is
just
my
experience
with
parking,
for
example
in
brisbane
all
right
afternoon,
I'm
sorry
in
pacifica
and
daily
city,
since
it
was
a
recent
experience
over
there
and
daily
city
has
a
street
cleaning
program,
which
I
am
sure
you
guys,
I'm
not
not
sure.
If
you,
the
research
you
guys
have
had,
but
definitely
was
something
I
experienced
due
to
the
fact
that
I
lived
right
on
the
border
with
daily
city
so
sometimes
would
have
to
park
in
that
section
in
the
daily
city
park.
D
In
terms
of
my
experience
with
parking
within
brisbane
so
far
for
most
problems,
I'm
actually
able
to
find
parking
for
the
most
part.
I
think
the
biggest
issues
that
I
have
tend
to
be
on
for
where
I
live
on
farmers
market
evenings.
You
know
when
I
get
back
from
work
on
farmer's
market
evening
trying
to
find
parking
within
where
I
usually
park,
which
usually
I'm
able
to
park
on
san
bruno
avenue
or
san
francisco
avenue
right
right
right
here,
but
every
once
in
a
while.
D
D
You
know
what
kind
of
research
we
have
done
before,
because
it's
been
my
first
time
I
tried
to
get
brushed
up
a
little
bit
in
terms
of
the
notes
and
what
you
guys
have
been
looking
at
before,
but
I
definitely
want
to
be
able.
You
know
provide
my
insight,
at
least
with
my
experience
before,
and
one
thing
I
will
say
related
to
the
street
cleaning
thing
is:
it
was
a
great
way
to
force
people
to
move
their
cars,
so
obviously
you
had
to
move
every
week,
otherwise
you
would
get
the
ticket.
D
Unfortunately
I
was
one
of
the
culprits
of
the
tickets
one
time,
and
then
I
didn't
want
to
do
it
ever
again
after
that,
but
that
was
also
an
issue.
You
know
the
time
of
the
day
you
had
to
be
up
at
a
certain
time,
get
your
car
a
certain
time
to
move
it
in
the
hope
that
you
know
you
could
beat
the
street
cleaners
over
there.
D
A
D
C
D
D
You
know
our
famous
highway
intersection
right
here
yeah
at
least
the
areas
I'm
usually
able
to
park
in
front
of
the
the
senior
center
there's
usually
parking
right
there
on
visitation
or
right
across
the
street
right
in
front
of
the
hardware
store,
but
there's
nothing
there
at
least
posted
for
for
not
being
able
to
park
overnight
and
I've
done
it
a
few
times
and
it's
always
been
okay
yeah.
I
know
the
one
area
I've
seen
at
least
where
I
have
to
park
that
has
any
sort
of
restrictions.
D
D
C
A
F
F
D
I
know
all
that
information,
so
it's
a
16
unit,
building
16
total
units.
I
believe,
there's
some
units
that
are
two
two
bedrooms:
some
units
that
are
one
bedrooms
and
in
terms
of
parking
there
is
a
garage
within
the
building
and
so
depending
on.
You
know
the
base
for
the
building
so
depending
on
the
the
unit,
and
it
all
had
to
do
with
the
original
owners
of
the
unit.
They
were
titled
certain
parking
spots
in
the
in
the
garage.
D
So
in
terms
of
myself
you
know
I
purchased,
we
have
one
spot,
that's
titled
within
the
garage
which
you
know
we
have
a
two
bedroom
and
it's
me
and
my
partner,
but
of
course
each
of
us.
I
should
say,
of
course,
but
each
of
us
does
have
a
bar,
because
we
both
mute
different
parts,
and
so
these
one
one
car
is
always
parked
in
the
garage
one's
cars
usually
parked
on
the
street
yeah.
That's
a
good
question.
C
F
Oh
yeah,
that
seems
to
be
a
typical
scenario.
You
know,
I
guess
from
people
that
I
know
that
live
in
apartments.
If
you
have
like
a
one
bedroom,
they
will
assign
you
one
spot.
If
you
have
two
bedrooms,
maybe
two
spots
and
most
likely
you
know
with
a
one
bedroom,
there's
gonna
be
two
people
that
drive
someone.
The
other
person
have
to
go
and
find
out
yeah
parking
spot
outside
the
building.
D
So
some
units
have
multiple
parking
spots
within
the
garage
which
actually
some
of
them
are
not
using.
So
sometimes
I
talk
to
them.
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
a
way.
If
I
can
like
hey,
can
I
use
that
yeah
that
parking?
I
haven't
gotten
there
yet,
since
I've
only
you
know
been
here
now
for
eight
months
now:
okay,
but
I
haven't
gone
to
that
point
yet,
but
there
are
a
few
spots:
I've
noticed
that
are
not
using.
F
Cool,
well,
I
mean
you
know,
thanks
again
for
sharing
that.
That's
pretty
good
insight,
I
mean
so
in
terms
of
the
parking
apartment
zones.
There's
two
there's
two
way
to
look
at
this.
One
of
them
is
all
the
technicality
that
you
know
that
I
think
we
gather
from
the
different
cities
like
the
minimum
number
of
dwelling.
F
I
think
that's
one
way
to
to
look
at
that,
but
then
also
you
have
you
know
once
again
gregory.
I
think
this
this
section
was
made
for
you
and
then,
once
again
you
have
somebody
like
gregory
that
is
going
to
be
parking.
You
know
in
areas
that
is
public
like
the
community
park
and
also
in
areas
that
are
business
like
the
visitation
you
know.
F
F
F
If
you
have
like
three
cars
and
then
you
could
go
park
on
solano,
so
then
you
could
zone
that
and
say
you
know
what
let's
get
maricosa
and
maybe
the
next
street
and
with
zola
solano.
Then
we
say
that
sony
and
then
they
you
know
the
people
in
mariposa
that
could
go
on
parkour
solano.
They
have
more
than
than
two
cars
and
then.
F
G
I
guess
sure
I
guess
to
kind
of
maybe
address
christian's
point
there.
I
guess
I
kept
this
as
sort
of
maybe
I
think
tomas
put
this
document
together
to
kind
of
list
out
all
the
options,
but
I
I
guess
agree
through
the
vote,
but
maybe
not
confusing.
I'm
sorry.
Can
you
hear
me
business
yeah?
The
voting
I
agree.
Also.
I
guess
I
was
thinking.
If
it's
a
general
election
vote,
I
think
there's
sort
of
rules
around
how
to
you
know
determine
votes
per
household
or
whatnot.
G
I
don't
know
if
it's
something
that
we
yeah.
I
guess
that's
something
that
we
leave
to
the
council
down
the
road
but
yeah.
I
think
for
the
the
question
on
how
to
define
parking
permit
zones,
you
know
is
something
that
we
thought
about.
Last
time
too,
I
guess
my
one
thing
I
kind
of
struggled
with
as
I
went
through
this
document
is.
G
I
guess
I
couldn't
find,
for
example,
from
the
data
and
maybe
like
the
the
original
map
that
tomas
showed
was
that
someone
in
the
sharepoint-
or
so
I
think
he
kind
of
you
know-
had
mapped
out
some
proposed
zones
which
you
know.
I
thought
they
were
quite
interesting
and
I
couldn't
find
those
on
the
sharepoint
there
and
I
was
wondering
maybe
there's
somewhere
else
where
we're
holding
some
of
these.
You
know
earlier
research
that's
been
done
to
help
us,
but,
and
then
I
agree
with
linda
in
terms
of
I
had
some.
G
C
A
Okay,
I
guess
I
I'll
go
next.
I
get,
I
think,
I'm
the
last
one,
then
I
guess
the
way
I
looked
at
this
starting
out
was
in
terms
of
zones
some
of
the
cities
we
looked
at
seemed
to
break
up
their
their
parking,
their
city
into
different
zones
and
a
permit
would
apply
to
you
know
some
shaped
area
with
so
many
streets
inside
and
then
an
adjacent
area
would
have
a
different
permit.
People
could
not
jump
between
permits
or
jump
between
zones
with
their
permit.
I
mean
think
that's.
What
kind
of
this
was?
A
That's
how
I
interpreted
this
as
as
aiming
towards
trying
to
resolve,
and
we
we
did
talk
about
this
last
time.
I
get
concerned
we're
a
small
enough
city
and
the
streets
are
small
enough
that
if
you
are
say
on
the
edge
of
a
zone,
if
you're
at
a
boundary,
you
know
if
you're
in
the
middle
of
the
zone,
you
can
go
a
full
circle
around.
A
Where
you
live
to
find
a
parking
space,
360
degrees,
you
can
go
in
all
directions,
but
if
you
live
at
the
edge
of
the
zone,
you
can
only
you
you,
you
can
all
you
can't
go
to
the
zone
next
door.
So
you
know
you
have
less
opportunity
to
potentially
find
a
parking
space
and
not
get
a
ticket.
If
we
do
zones,
then
somebody
who's
in
the
middle,
so
my
thought
was.
We
should
just
make
the
entire
area
make
it
city-wide.
That
was
my
thought
in
terms
of
us.
D
I
would
kind
of
I
would
agree
with
that.
I
would
say
just
from
hearing
and
listening
about
you
know
in
terms
of
the
zone,
as
you
kind
of
said,
with
the
the
vein
being
such
a
small
city
and,
as
you
said,
those
people
on
the
edges
of
the
zones
might
have
more
trouble,
but
I
think
if
we
make
it
just
like
a
central
brisbane
wide
permit
program,
so
maybe
obviously
not
that
I
don't
think
we're,
including
the
ridge.
D
I
believe
right
up
on
the
hillside
right
right
and
because
I
they
don't
have
too
many
parking
issues.
It
sounds
like
there,
but
and
it's
interesting
too,
it's
central
brisbane
the
zone.
It
depends
on
the
area,
as
you
said,
you
know,
if
you're
on
one
street,
it's
super
tight
and
really
busy
with
lots
of
cars
parked
and
then
you
might
go
to
a
street
or
two
down
and
there's
a
little
more
space
to
be
able
to
park.
D
So
I
kind
of
agree,
I
think
the
zone,
the
central
brisbane
idea,
I
think,
is
a
good
way
to
go
versus
separate
zones,
maybe
ones
the
only
one
separate
zone
would
be
visitation.
Just
for
the
businesses
there,
I
have
a
different
role.
You
know
for
guest
parking,
for
example,
is
more
available
on
visitation
just
so
the
businesses
can
get
people
to
park
there.
You.
G
A
D
D
C
A
D
E
Hi,
I
really
agree
with
what
you
had
to
say.
I
think
it's.
It
speaks
to
a
couple
of
things,
not
just
the
border
parking,
but
also
to
visiting
friends
in
a
neighborhood.
That's
not
your
zone.
I
agree
that
we
need
to
have
just
one
one
zone.
Maybe
we
could
call
it.
I
don't
know
an
area
where
we
can
all
pretty
much
go
to
a
friend's
house
and
not
have
to
worry
about
a
parking
permit.
That's
not
in
that
zone.
G
Yeah,
I
definitely
agree
in
terms
of
brisbane's
too
small
for
too
many
zones,
but
then
I
also
wonder:
does
one
zone
then
solve
the
problem
that
or
they
were
having?
Or
I
guess
you
know,
the
thing
I
keep
praying
back
is
what
is
the
fundamental
issue
we're
trying
to
address
with
the
parking
permit
program?
If
it's
number
of
cars
on
an
individual
street,
then
I
guess
just
having
a
permit.
G
You'll
still
have
the
same
congestion
if
everyone's
permitted,
unless
we
limit
the
number
of
permits
per
household,
then
or
or
some
other
limitation,
but
I
guess
in
my
view
I
agree
that
we
should
not
have
too
many
zones
but
then
having
just
one
big
zone.
I
guess
as
long
as
you're
a
resident
you
can
park
anywhere,
and
I
guess
that
would
only
take
away
the
problem
where
non-residents
are
parking
on
our
streets.
I'm
not
sure,
that's
the
major
problem,
I
don't
know,
maybe
it
is-
and
I
just
I
haven't
seen
the
statistics
for
that.
G
I
know
the
one
thing
that
keeps
coming
to
mind
is
when
we
ask
about
the
the
number
of
cases
of
people
parking
here
and
then
going
like
sfo
or
something
that
was.
You
know
one
case
in
the
last
10
years.
You
know
very
little,
and
so
I
agree
that
I
limiting
zones
is
the
idea,
but
I
wonder
whether
that
even
addresses
the
issue
at
hand
or
yeah.
It's
like
that
keeps
coming
back
my
mind.
I
guess
to
try
to
figure
out
what
that
core
problem.
F
F
A
I
think
that's
up
to
us
to
recommend
and
then
for
council
to
decide,
but
I
think
you
know
the
last
the
last
recommendation.
When
we
sent
the
recommendation
to
council
last
year,
we
recommended
that
they
put
it
to
a
city
vote
permit
program,
I'm
of
the
same
mind
as
I
was
at
that
time.
But
as
a
committee
we
may
feel
differently.
I
don't
know
on
a
on
a
citywide
vote.
A
G
A
Well,
I
think
they
they
felt
the
as
I'm
recalling
karen.
I
think
you
were
at
the
meeting
right
just
chime
in
here,
but
my
recollection
as
watching
the
video
was
that
they
felt
this
was
this
program.
This
problem
has
been
around
for
decades
and
it's
just
time
to
do
something.
Now
they
didn't
say
I
they
didn't
they.
They
were.
A
H
Of
like
a
three-phased
program-
and
they
wanted
to
go
straight
to
a
parking
permit
program
that
the
other
ideas
didn't
really
sit
well
with
them
or
they
didn't
think
they
were
effective
or
best
use
of
time.
I
guess-
and
I
don't
know
if
I
can
describe
every
problem-
you
know
different
council
members
have
different
feedback
and
maybe
they
live
in
different
places
of
town.
Certainly
they
probably
haven't
talked
to
the
majority
of
constituents
about
this,
so
they
have
their
own
particular
knowledge,
but
people.
You
know
25
foot
lots.
H
H
So
it
was,
I
think,
mostly
a
matter
of
you
know,
there's
just
a
lot
of
spaces
available
and
I
guess,
for
the
most
part,
people
are
maybe
figuring
out
somewhere
to
park,
but
there's
just
you
know
they
drive
by
and
they
see
this
car
that
doesn't
move
and
they
think
well.
That
would
be
a
lot
more
convenient.
If
I
could
park
near
my
home,
you
know.
H
So
and
they
had
different
ideas,
they
think
and-
and
I
think
that's
kind
of
what
the
committee
is
wrestling
with-
is
that
there
are
some
localized
areas
that
are
worse
than
others.
You
know
you've
got
hilarious,
a
long,
narrow,
dead-end
street
and
drive
down
that
street
and
can
hardly
get
through
because
there
are
cars
seemingly
all
over,
but
in
other
spots.
Maybe
it's
not
as
bad
like
christian's
saying
on
solano,
there's
some
more
availability
and
we
didn't
study.
H
H
C
H
E
Yes,
thank
you
karen,
because
that
reminded
me
what
my
hiccup
was
and
where
I
was
going
with
my
train
of
thought.
Darius,
we
talked
about
the
number
of
cars
that
would
still
remain
on
the
street,
regardless
of
what
we
did,
but
there
actually
is
another
piece
to
that,
and
that
is
that
we
are
encouraging
people
to
empty
their
garages
and
use
them.
E
E
D
I
guess
what
one
question
I
I
was
not
thinking
of
is
related
to
the
permit
program
that
we're
talking
discussing
if
you
were
to
get
a
permit.
This
is
just
I
mean
I
know
where
it's
all.
This
is
all
this
discussion,
but
if
you
were
to
get
the
permit,
let's,
but
the
idea
of
being
like
two
hour
parking
for
everyone
else,
type
of
idea
or
half
day
parking
one
day
parking
two-day
parking,
or
you
know
that
type
of
idea
and
then,
if
not,
you
have
to
have
a
permit
right.
A
Other
cities
do
like
limited
to
two
hours
and
I
think
we
may
be
thinking
the
problem
is
an
overnight
problem.
Maybe
maybe
not
maybe
it's
a
24-hour
problem,
but
certainly
it's
you
know
from
the
evening
people
coming
home
from
work
and
trying
to
put
the
car
somewhere.
You
know
get
in
the
house
and
chill
right.
F
Yes,
so
I
I
think
you
know,
for
the
sake
of
time
and
also
be
more
targeted,
a
lot
of
what
we
discuss.
You
know
it's
in
the
other
sections,
and
so
my
my
guess
would
be.
If
you
know,
if
we
could
wrap
up
the
you
know
the
permit
parking
zones
and,
and
then
also
if
whatever
we
end
up,
you
know
the
consensus
that
we
built
today
and
vote
on
it.
F
That
doesn't
mean
that
it's
gonna
be
set
on
stone.
I
guess
we
can
always
come
back.
Somebody
feels
strongly
about
it
and
and
wants
to
make
the
case,
but
it,
but
it's
my.
I
think
I
think
my
opinion
would
be
to
stay
stay
with
a
document.
It's
a
very
comprehensive
one.
We
you
know,
staff
put
it
together
from
different
cities
and-
and
he
has
all
the
different
points
that
we
that
we're
going
to
be
discussing
or
want
to
make
decisions
on.
A
E
A
F
F
I
yeah
I
do
agree
to
try
to
have
a
sort
of
a
narrow
scope.
You
know
say
central
brisbane
residential,
because
I
don't
think
we
had
had
an
opportunity
to
get
feedback
from
the
business
from
the
businesses
owner,
but
also
in
this
section,
I
will
add,
in
terms
of
you
know,
having
a
central
brisbane,
residential
permanent
parking
program.
F
E
That's
separation
issue.
I
think
the
voting
is
a
separate
issue.
It
certainly
needs
to
be
addressed,
but
I
thought
you
were
advocating
that
we
decide
if
we're
gonna
have
one
central
zone
or
several,
and
I
thought
the
consensus
we
were
making
here
was
that
we
were
going
to
treat
central
brisbane
as
a
zone
and
my
inter
input
was
for
now.
A
H
H
A
Okay
right
so
the
consent.
Let
me
let
me
just
restate
our
consensus.
The
consensus
is
that
central
brisbane,
central
residential
brisbane
should
be
a
single
under
a
permit
program,
a
single
parking
zone,
and
that
would
include
at
the
moment
that
would
include
visitation
and
go
all
the
way
up.
The
hill
in
all
sides
up
to
the
cr
on
san
bruno.
It
would
stop
at
the
crest
is
that
is
that
how
we
all
feel.
A
F
I
mean
the
community
park,
you
know,
there's
houses
around
there.
There
I
mean
there's
also
houses
in
the
visitation
home
there's.
Actually
some
of
those
houses
are
are
mixed
use
where
they
have
a
house
on
the
top
and
business.
So
I
I
guess
technically
we
could
do
that.
I
mean
what
I
mean:
I'm
fine
with
that.
A
G
Actually,
I
mean,
I
think
one
other
thing
we
probably
may
already
have
a
consensus
on,
or
at
least
a
very
strong
opinion
in
this
list.
If
we
can
scroll
down
just
for
the
enforcement,
I
think
that's
something
we've
heard
quite
a
lot
about
that.
There
just
isn't
the
capacity
for
brisbane
to
have
enforcement
of
our
own
from
the
police
department.
I
don't
know
if
anyone
else
has
thought
about
that.
G
That
was
one
section
where
I
felt
you
know,
the
other
option
is
contracting
or
enforcement
internally
right,
and
so
that's
something
else
that
I
think
it's
pretty
clear
that
we
don't
have
the
capacity
from
the
people
we've
talked
to
internally
to
do
that
unless
we
levy
some
sort
of
you
know
or
unless
we
get
resources.
For
that
any
other
thoughts
from
the
committee
on
that.
A
I
I
think
it's
kind
of
jumping
the
gun.
I
I
I'd
like
if,
with
all
due
respect,
I
know
that
I
I
think
I
agree
with
you.
We
probably
do
all
agree
that
it
should
be
contracted
out,
but
I'd
like
us
to
try.
We
have
about
30
minutes
left
in
tonight's
meeting.
If
we
you
know
30,
plus
or
so
I'd
like
us
to
see
you
know,
a
really
big
question
is:
if
we,
let's
tomas,
can
you
scroll
up?
A
Is
the
question
of
how
many
permits
get
issued
and
I
think
that's
just
a
really
giant
elephant
eating
an
elephant
type
of
a
problem
to
figure
out
okay
and
I'd
like
us
to
try
and
start
on
that
tonight.
If
we
could,
if
that's
all
right
and
we
may
get
through
it,
we
may
not,
but
at
least
we
get
the
discussion
started
because
I
think
this
is
one
that
is
is
is
really
hard
to
come
to
a
clear,
good
single
plan
on.
A
A
E
I'm
still
on
eating
elephant
and
that's
what
it
feels
like.
If
we're
gonna
have
a
zone
area
one
zone
rather
then
is
someone
who
has
a
parking
permit
on
a
street
that
has
really
tight
parking.
When
we
did
our
study,
I
can't
I
know
what
mariposa
street
on
the
100
block
was
was
parked
from
one
end
to
the
other
end
on
the
corners,
I'm
not
really
sure
who
parked
there
or
what
their
reason
was
or
how
many
garages
weren't
used.
E
E
A
B
B
E
Sorry,
it
was
me
I
we
participated
in
that
study
and
I
didn't
know
that
it
had
gone
beyond
just
that
part
of
the
study
that
we
had
an
actual
count
of
the
number
of
parking
places.
We
can't
possibly
issue
more
than
we
have
and
the
idea
of
striping
the
parking
places
so
that
they're
properly
used
so
that
every
space,
if
someone
parks
to
protect
their
bumper
front
and
back
and
hogs
up
three
spaces,
that's
not
helpful!
E
E
C
C
H
Surveyed
six
segments
six
blocks
different,
randomly
selected
blocks
and
he
went
on
google
street
view
and
used
a
caltrans
standard
of
20
feet
and
simply
measured
the
space
between
curb
cuts
and
all
he
had
in
the
file
was
a
list
that
said
100
block,
mariposa,
16
spaces
or
whatever
it
was.
You
know,
16
17..
H
If
people
are
sick,
what
if
people
are
out
of
town,
then
you've
got
spaces
that
can't
be
used
necessarily,
so
I
don't
know-
and
I
don't
know
some
of
the
other
examples
they
issue
actually
more
than
there
are
spaces
on
the
street
and
it
doesn't.
It
it'd
be
hard
to
get
it
exactly
right,
where
you
only
issue
as
many
permits
as
there
are
spaces
on
the
street
or
people
own
cars.
Some
of
it
is
a
little
bit
like
the
permit,
doesn't
guarantee
you
a
space.
H
H
You
know,
but
that's
another
factor
to
think
about,
but
I
I
guess
you
guys
are
still
talking
about
whether
you
want
capacity
on
the
street
to
be
a
factor
in
how
many
permits
you
issue
versus
parking
on
people's
property
on
site
or
a
fixed
number
just
per
household
or
address,
and
whether
adus
are
part
of
that
or
not
so
it
would
be.
It
would
be
a
bit
of
work
to
go
and
count
every
space
on
the
street
and
then
in.
In
my
opinion,
you
have
different
sized
cars.
H
I
think
you
know
we
did
have
tick
marks
at
city
hall
and
if
you've
got
a
smart
car
you're,
not
utilizing
a
lot
of
that
on
that
space
there
on
the
street.
You
know
that
that's
kind
of
a
benefit
in
a
big
city
like
I
had
a
mini
cooper.
I
could
park
in
that
smaller
space
that
other
people
couldn't
fit
in.
H
F
F
F
F
F
So,
let's
standardize
as
much
as
possible,
and
especially
you
know
as
we
go
with
this
questionnaire
and
then
I'm
sure
it
will
be
refined
eventually,
but
my
my
my
guess
would
be
just
to
work
on
some
logical
points
like,
for
instance,
you
know
that
in
a
household
you're
gonna
have
at
least
two
cars
or
two
people
that
are
gonna
drive.
So
why
don't
we
issue
two
permit
parkings
for
two
cars
and
then
we
could
and
that
could
probably
even
be
free.
F
F
So
that's
a
given,
even
if
you
have
a
parking
permit,
cannot
park
on
somebody
else's
driveway
right
and
then
the
other,
the
other
car
almost
become
as
default,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day
you
want
to
park
in
front
of
your
house,
and
that
is
a
lot
of
the
culture
of
brisbane
at
least
on
the
street.
I
did
you
know
a
lot
of
the
people
here
they
park
in
front
of
the
house
and
they
make
it
work.
They
park,
one
car
like
they
back
it
up
the
other
one.
F
They
put
a
parallel
and
they
have
another
third
car
you
they
get
a
small
car,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
you
know
they
they
make
things
work.
So
you
know
that's
what
that's
one
way
to
look
at
it.
But
then,
if
you
have
like
kids
and
stuff
like
that,
you
can
purchase,
you
know
additional
parking
permits
and
they
could
go
park
where
there's
where
there's
parking,
presentation
or
somewhere
else.
A
G
You
darios
actually
christian.
I
think
I
mean
I
agree
with
a
lot
of
the
points
you
made
there.
So
the
way
I
kind
of
pushed
this
section
I
went
through
and
ranked
them.
I
did
have
a
comment.
I
do
agree
that
we
should
notice
where
the
maximum
number
of
spaces
allowed
in
the
city
and
not
exceeding
you
know
percentage
of
that
or
something.
But
I
did
feel
very
quite
strongly
when
I
was
going
through
this
list
that
we
should
go,
spend
some
fixed
numbers.
G
So
I
had
you
know
in
terms
of
the
different
options
listed
here.
I
kind
of
thought
that
I
preferred
the
most
a
fixed
number
per
household
regarding
on-site
or
street
parking
capacity,
so
just
sort
of
every
household
gets
two
for
instance.
So
I
thought
personally-
and
I
thought
two
was
a
fair
number
per
address,
but
then
that
you
know
if
they're
more
registered
drivers,
we're
gonna
link
it
to
sort
of
you
know
drivers
or
registered
vehicles
in
the
city.
Then
I
thought
maybe
they
could
get
additional
permits
or
you
have
something
like.
G
If
it's
a
single
individual
has
multiple
cars,
perhaps
we
charge
more
for
the
second
permit
per
vehicle
or
some
you
know
household
capacity,
and
then
you
increase
it
to
2x
or
one
and
a
half
x
depending
on
the
car.
You
know
if
it's
going
to
be
whatever
the
cost,
if
there's
a
cost
associated,
and
then
I
thought
the
second
one
I
liked
was
sort
of
a
max
permit
as
relates
to
drawing
units.
G
So
you
know
household
versus
welding
units,
you
know
that's
sort
of
a
thing
and
then
and
then
I
thought
yeah
sort
of
going
down
the
list.
My
least
favorite
was
sort
of
going
side
by
side
and
figuring
out
capacity,
because
I
think
that
is
so
intensive,
especially
if
you
go
with
a
single
zone,
I
think
sort
of
a
fixed
number
per
household
you
know
seemed
to
be
pretty
common
way
of
doing
things
and
something
that
I
would
support.
A
D
Yeah,
what
absolutely
yeah,
so
I
actually,
I
actually
did
like
what
christian
just
said
in
terms
of
the
because
one
thing
that
popped
in
my
head,
as
as
we
were
discussing
just
now,
was:
oh,
maybe
we
increased
the
cost
of
the
permits
for
each
additional
vehicle.
But
then
I
also
like
what
christian
said
thinking
about
equity
and
inclusion.
D
Maybe
you
don't
want
to
have
four
cars
park
on
the
street-
maybe
keep
it
to
just
those
two
have
encouraged
less
vehicles.
You
know
parking
on
the
street,
so
I
kind
of
liked
christian's
idea
on
that.
One
and
I
think
the
percentage
as
well-
I
don't
think
we-
I
don't
think
we
can
necessarily
limit
it
to
the
number
of
parking
spaces,
but
maybe
we
do
a
total
number
of
parking
spaces
within
central
brisbane,
plus
10
looks
like
a
hundred
years
in
terms
of
the
total
number
then
past
that
point.
D
Maybe
we
create
a
waitlist
so
as
the
thought.
So
if
we
get
to
that
full
capacity,
right
of
110
or
120
percent
of
permits
handed
out,
maybe
we
say:
okay
well,
there's
all
these
permits
are
handed
out,
but
we'll
put
you
on
a
wait
list
so
next
year,
if
the
person
doesn't
renew
their
permit,
then
you
can
get.
You
know
your
permit
something
that
popped
up
in
my
brain.
E
Gregory
in
thank
you
linda
well,
in
response
to
that.
It's
like
what
does
that
mean
if
someone
moves
into
town
who
does
not
have
a
permit
into
an
adu,
that's
added
or
if
we
require
it
for
an
adu
or
any
car,
that's
on
the
street.
Does
that
mean
they
don't
get
a
permit
at
all
until
there's
one
on
the
waiting
list
and
what
do
they
do
in
the
meantime,.
D
Well,
that's
a
and
that
that's
a
good
ques,
that's
a
good
thought.
Oh
interesting
thought,
too.
I
wonder
if
there's
some
way
that
we
could
know,
I
mean
like
if,
for
example,
someone
moves
in
or
if
the,
if
there's
additional
dwellings
that
get
added
you
know
through
the
maybe
through
the
instruction
or
permit
process,
anyways
that
we
have.
You
know
if
you're,
adding
additional
rooms
or
like,
for
example,
we
could
also
say:
okay,
say
it's
a
math
capacity
already
and
there's
a
waiting
list.
E
G
E
E
F
F
F
They
could
do
another
parking
space
up
there,
and
the
one
here
in
visitation
will
also
be
a
way
to
generate
money
when
they
do
events
in
the
community
parking
that
you
have
all
those
parks,
all
those
cars
parked
along
the
street.
You
know
and
that
and
it's
a
little
winky
to
drive
around
them.
You
know
so
that's
so
what
I'm
saying
is
that
that
could
be
another
way
to
you
know:
try
to
bring
a
solution
to
this
parking.
E
E
G
Yeah,
I
was
just
gonna
comment.
Actually
I
think
one
of
the
things
was
brought
up
today
that
I
hadn't
considered
before
today.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
sort
of
you
know,
noted
and
maybe
think
about
some
more
is
is
the
redrawing
of
like
some
of
the
lines.
I
think
that
on
my
street,
especially
on
alvarado,
is
there
no
street
lines
and
no
sort
of
indications
of
what
a
parking
spot
is.
I
know
that
maybe
20
feet
is
not
the
right
number.
G
E
C
F
F
You
know
discussed
at
the
beginning
when
they
did
the
study,
and
I
thought
it
was
a
good
one
and
what
I
wanted
to
encourage
is
you
know,
as
with
any
any
problem,
you
have
to
think
out
of
the
box
and
bring
solution,
I
mean.
If
we
do
have
you
know,
houses
are
getting
smallers
and
and
and
and
the
land
is
not
going
to
expand,
what's
going
to
expand
it.
F
What's
going
to
what's
going
to
happen,
is
places
are
getting
more
dense,
you
know,
so
there
has
to
be
a
way
to
figure
out
how
you're
going
to
allocate.
You
know
that
growth,
so
that's
one
way
to
look
at
it.
Parking
permit
is
going
to
cost
money.
So
if
you
look
at
the
visibility
of
you
know,
implementing
a
parking
permit
versus
also
maybe
getting
a
a
lock
and
you
know
fix
it
too.
F
E
I
agree,
and
maybe
even
more
stringent
requirements
by
the
planning
department
about
parking,
adding
parking,
designing
buildings
so
that
there's
adequate
parking
off
the
street
might
be
part
of
something
that
plays
into
this
too.
I
know
the
new
library
has
no
part,
and
that
was
a
critical
mistake,
in
my
opinion.
E
E
A
Thank
you,
I
think,
let's
try
and
bring
this
topic
to
a
close.
I've
got
about
five
minutes
till
we
have
a
couple
of
other
items
go
through
on
the
agenda
and
we'll
pick
this
up
again
next
next
month,
number
of
permits
issues,
but
I
haven't
said
anything
yet:
I've
been
listening
to
everyone.
I
just
want
to
add
a
couple
comments
before
we
close
out
the
night.
If
I
could
I
I
agree
with
christian's
thoughts
on
maybe
the
first
two
are
free
or
then
start
charging,
or
I
think
it
was.
A
A
Everybody
has
got
to
go,
get
a
permit
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
you've
got
to
have
permits
and
if
you've
got
to
shell
out,
we
should
try
and
make
it
as
painless
as
possible
for
the
existing
public.
That
said,
how
do
you
deter?
How
do
we
determine
how
many
permits
of
dwelling
should
get,
and
I
still
have
not
my
my
thoughts
on
this
are
very
fuzzy
at
the
moment,
but
here
are
the
things
that
are
going
through
my
mind
right
now.
A
The
system
as
it
is
does
work.
It's
messy.
It's
frustrating
for
the
last
person
to
arrive
at
night,
looking
for
a
parking
space
or
the
last
10
people
in
the
neighborhood,
but
it
does
work
at
the
end
of
the
day.
All
the
cars
do
get
parked,
which
means
somehow
some
way
we
are
close
to
balanced
in
terms
of
number
of
parking
spaces
and
the
number
of
cars
we
have
now
it,
which
means
to
me,
maybe-
and
I'm
not
proposing
this-
I'm
I'm
just
speaking
out
loud
things
that
are
going
through
my
mind.
A
Maybe,
on
the
first
go
round,
we
set
the
number
permits
for
kind
of
a
large
number
to
allow
for
what
everybody
has
right
now,
so
that,
if
somebody,
you
know
if
a
household
has
got
two
kids
in
college
and
two
working
adults
and
two
kids
in
college
or
whatever,
and
so
there
are
four
cars
they're,
not
all
of
a
sudden
restricted,
because
we
said
there
has
to
be
only
two
cars.
You
know
it
may
cost
more,
but
they
can
still
get
four
cars.
A
A
The
devil-
you
don't
know
is
always
worse
than
the
devil.
You
do.
Okay
and
the
devil
you
know,
is
the
parking
program.
We
have
right
now
at
the
moment,
good
or
bad
everybody
kind
of
knows
how
to
work
it
and
if
it,
when
we
put
in
a
permit
program,
it's
going
to
be
another
learning
curve
and
an
adjustment.
A
Multiple
cars,
maybe
they're
a
car
collector
or
whatever,
but
they
are
parked
on
the
street.
They
may
not
be
operated
or
moved
for
weeks
on
end
that
that
kind
of
irks
people
and
the
question
that
comes
up
is,
does
that
need
to
be
parked
here
or
could
that
be
off
somewhere
else
in
storage
somewhere,
even
outside
the
city?
Why
does
it
have
to
be
parked
on
the
city
street?
A
A
Comes
to
mind
is
when
we
were
surveying
one
of
the
houses,
and
I
don't
remember
which
street
is
on
it,
had
a
two-car
garage
and
we
I
remember
the
night
we
went
out
together.
We
stood
out
in
front
of
it.
It
had
a
fence
in
the
front
and
a
gate
for
the
on
the
driveway,
and
we
we
counted
and
how
many
cars
they
could
get
in
the
front
yard.
It
was
like
five
or
six
cars.
A
A
That
that
was
that's
right.
Some
houses
have
garages
which
cannot
be
used
because
of
whatever's
been
retroactively,
built
in
the
garage
eating
systems
or
living
quarters
or
whatever.
So
there
may
be
a
garage
there,
but
it
is
physically
incapable
of
holding
a
car
so
which
case
we
can't
count
that
as
a
car
space
right.
There's
people
can't
get
that
car
off
the
street.
A
A
A
A
C
H
I
don't
have
a
lot.
We
are
most
recently
looking
at
another
grant
opportunity
from
the
san
mateo
county
transportation
authority
and
it's
a
bike
head
grant.
I
haven't
they've
just
issued
the
call
for
projects
and
tomas
is
going
to
do
the
webinar
tomorrow
about
it.
So
I
haven't
looked
at
it
closely.
I
saw
some
mention
of
transit,
but
we
we
were
thinking
that,
because
the
city
had,
when
coveted,
started,
unfunded
to
larry
to
santa
clara
that
that
might
be
a
good
project
to
apply
for,
but
if
the
guidelines
say,
transit
or
schools.
H
You
know
we
also
talked
about
the
pathway
from
san
francisco
avenue
down
to
bayshore
and
old
county,
so
that
might
be
a
good
one.
I
think
that,
because
you
guys
kind
of
fall
in
between,
we
haven't
had
a
chance
to
really
nail
it
down,
but
I
think
we
will
probably
come
to
the
next
meeting,
hoping
to
get
a
letter
of
support
for
one
of
those
two.
A
H
H
I
can't
think
of
right
now,
but
they've
helped
fund
payment,
condition,
payment
management,
software
or
our
our
operation
of
an
inventory
of
the
streets
and
we're
required
to
have
that
to
get
the
funding
that
we
get
from
the
region
to
for
pavement
maintenance
to
get
our
gas
tax
and
measuring
funds.
So
that's
we've
got
our
consultant,
that's
going
to
be
doing
that
and
we'll
see
them.
In
august
we
tend
to
put
stuff
out
in
social
media,
but
we
don't
get
a
lot
of
comments.
C
H
With
that
consultant
and
other
ongoing
pavement
maintenance
that
we
had
told
you
last
meeting
that
we
got
awarded
on
the
crocker
park,
shuttle
stop
improvements.
That's
still
just
going
to
the
ta
board,
so
we're
hoping
to
be
able
to
build
those
next
year.
But
looking
at
how
long
that
that
first
shelter
took
to
get
six
months
from
order
across
my
fingers
that
we
can
be
installing
stuff
next
year,
we
can
probably
at
least
be
doing
the
flat
work
in
the
more
simpler
pieces.
A
A
E
G
H
So
I
wouldn't
expect
any
action
to
change
that
any
way,
especially
oh,
it's
tomorrow,
night
he's
right,
I'm
sorry!
So
I
guess
the
agenda
must
already
be
out,
but
they're
meeting
tomorrow
night
to
extend
the
remote
meeting.
You
know
a
local
agency
has
to
say
we
still
for
safety
issues
want
to
continue
to
meet
remotely
under
the
governor
order.
So
we're
doing
that,
and
I
would
think
that
there's
not
going
to
be
any
significant
change
until
after
the
council
can
meet
again
in
september.
H
H
Somewhat
limited
hours,
nine
to
four
monday
and
thursday
nine
to
seven
on
wednesday,
so
we're
not
even
back
to
being
open
full-time
the
public-
and
you
know
the
news-
is
changing
all
the
time.
So
I
don't
know
if
people
I
we
had
set
up
to
be
able
to
do
hybrid
meetings,
so
that
would
mean
that
we
would
have
to
open
the
council
chambers
and
that
could
be
a
zoom
screen.
So
people
could
be
there.
H
Sorry,
the
community
meeting
room
council
chambers
people
could
either
be
sitting
there
at
the
diocese
or
they
could
be
at
home
and
the
public
could
actually
come
and
physically
be
a
community
meeting
room
to
participate.
So
if
I
had
to
guess,
I
would
think
that
would
be
a
first
step
before
we
came
back
to
fully
immediately.
A
H
H
I
think
it's
three
years,
so
we
got
money
in
cycle
two
and
they're.
Just
now
just
took
applications
for
the
next
cycle,
so
it
they
fund
some
projects
the
first
year,
some
the
second
year
some
that
third
year,
so
ours
is
funded
for
the
next
the
coming
federal
fiscal
year
and
we
have
completed
the
environmental
studies
we
had
to
do-
and
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
knew
the
details
of
this.
We
you
know
we
asked
council
to
support
by
because
we
didn't
know
we'd
need
these
certain
studies.
H
H
We
just
turned
in
our
right
of
way.
We
certified
that
we're
working
all
within
our
right-of-way
and
we
need
to
get
that
approved
by
a
different
division
of
caltrans,
because
caltrans
administers
federal
funding.
So
we
work
with
them
directly
versus
the
federal
government
directly
and
then
we'll
submit
the
full
plans,
specifications
and
estimate
and
the
documents
saying
we're
ready.
Will
you
give
us
construction
funding
so
right?
Now?
It's
almost
not
as
we
speak,
but
you
know,
even
these
current
days
is
trying
to
develop
the
plans,
we're
putting
the
plans
and
specifications
together
together.
C
A
Great
that
sounds
good.
The
other
question
I
had
is
along
valley
drive
where
the
crocker
trail
crosses
valley,
drive,
there's
a
pedestrian
refuge
in
the
middle
of
the
four-lane
street,
that's
been
under
construction
or
under
reconstruction
for
a
really
long
time,
and
it
seems
to
have
stalled
so
that
they
report
a
pad
and
then
started
putting
up
some
of
the
guard
fences,
but
the
the
guard
fences
have
never
been
finished.
I
was
wondering,
what's
going
on
there.
H
A
Or
a
new
location
looks
like
you
know,
there
was
no.
There
was
one
there
before
and
it
started.
While
I
was
out
of
town
and
I
came
back
and
I
noticed
gee,
that's
new,
concrete,
curbing
and
such
and
then
at
first,
when
I
first
came
back
that
was
in
june,
there
was,
there
was
just
new,
curb
new,
concrete,
curb
kind
of
delineating,
the
rectangle
box
in
the
middle
and,
of
course
the
guard.
A
C
A
C
A
A
H
Yeah
those
are
thank
you
anything
else
updates.
Let
me
just
mention
too,
that
the
this
chair
and
committee
member
matters
I
mean
we're
working
on
the
parking
stuff
directly,
but
and
primarily,
but
just
for
the
two
new
members
it's
this
is
the
place.
I
think
the
council
has
a
similar
thing
on
the
agenda.
Open
space
has
something
on
their
agenda
where
members
can
bring
up
something
that
they'd
like
to
see
agendas
in
the
future,
but
you
either
need
the
chair
or
a
majority
to
say,
yeah,
that's
something
we
need
to
put
in
its
function.