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Topic: Complete Streets Safety Committee Meeting
Time: December 7 2022, 6:30 PM Pacific Time (US and Canada)
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ROLL CALL
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ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES
A. Minutes of October 5, 2022
OLD BUSINESS
B. Investigation of Residential Parking Permit program for Central Brisbane
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E
B
A
Okay,
the
minutes
are
adopted,
approved
I
would
like
to
say,
I
thought
the
minutes
were
really
terrific.
I,
don't
know
how
much
time
everyone
had
to
be
able
to
read
through
them,
but
I
thought
they
were
exceptionally
good
this
time
so
Karen
and
Tomas.
Thank
you.
That
was
a
very
detailed
capture
of
our
discussion.
Last
meeting.
A
Yeah,
okay:
let's
move
on
then
to
the
subject
at
hand,
which
is
continuing
our
investigation
of
a
residential
parking
permit
program
for
Central
Brisbane,
and
let
me
do
just
a
real
quick
recap
where
we,
where
we
kind
of,
are
and
at
this
time
Hamas.
Could
you
put
up
that
that
working
topic
list
we've
had
on.
A
A
A
The
final
item
is
to
discuss
whether
we
include
visitation
or
not
so
I
guess
where
I'd
like
to
start
tonight
is
looking
at
hours
of
Opera.
Okay,
no,
let's
go
right
on
what
we
have
here
on
screen,
let's
start
with
guest
parking,
since
we
discussed
that
at
the
last
meeting,
but
we
did
not
reach
a
consensus.
A
On
the
other
hand,
we
do
not
want
to
be
so
restrictive
that
it
makes
it
difficult
for
people
to
have
visitors,
whether
for
a
few
days
visiting
or
or
a
night
and
so
forth.
So
if
we
could
start
our
discussion
on
thoughts
on
a
guest
permit
program
now,
that
would
be
great
any
thoughts.
Anybody
want
to
start
off
on
that.
B
A
No
internet
system
registration
system-
you
would
call
it
the
police
department,
give
them
the
license
number
and
say
this
car
will
be
here
for
tonight
days,
space
and
they
would
market
and
on
their
patrols.
They
knew
that
was
a
car
that
was
acceptable
to
be
parked
on
the
street.
That's
kind
of
how
I
envisioned
it
to
work.
I
think
we
need
an
upper
limit,
maybe
it's
one
week
and
you
have
to
renew
it
or
something
any
thoughts
on
that
committee.
H
I
also
like
the
idea,
I
think
for
me,
it
comes
down
again
to
kind
of
enforcement
of
it,
which
is
maybe
the
same
chicken
egg
issue
we
talked
about
earlier
is
how
do
we
enforce
it
in
order
to
make
sure
that
those
limits
are?
You
know
meaningful,
so
I'd
be
curious
to
hear
if
there's
some
updates,
maybe
on
that-
or
maybe
you
know,
but
otherwise,
I
think
yeah
I
agree,
there
should
be
flexibility
and
some
sort
of
I
mean
yeah.
Ideally,
your
system
sounds
great.
H
F
C
Yeah,
so
just
wanted
to
make
sure
I
understood
the
introduction
of
today's
meeting
to
put
things
into
perspective,
so
what
the
the
topics
that
are
still
pending
for
us
to
process
or
the
guest
parking
right,
the
cost
structure
and
an
enforcement.
So
one
of
the
things
I
think
you
might.
You
might
influence
what
we're
talking
about
now.
C
If
we
decide
what
route
to
go
in
turn
in
terms
of
enforcement,
if
it's
going
to
be
done
by
you
know
by
the
city
police
force
or
if
we're
going
to
subcontract
it,
then
we're
going
to
have
different
way
of
maybe
based
on
their
technology
or
capacity
how
to
handle.
You
know
get
sparking,
but
in
terms
of
so
that's
that's
one.
C
A
Okay,
good
I,
I
thought
I
thought
I'd
sent
a
message
to
everyone,
but
let
me
let
me
put
it
out,
so
we
initially
had
committed
to
council
that
we
would
have
been
finished
last
month
and
obviously
that
did
not
come
to
pass.
This
is
much
more
complex
than
I
think
we
anticipated
and
and
I've
spoken
with
the
mayor
and
committed
to
her
that
we
could
be.
We
should
be
able
to
send
a
recommendation
to
council
in
February.
A
So
my
thinking
is
that
if
we
can
wrap
up
things
between
this
meeting
and
our
January
meeting,
that
gives
us
the
February
meeting
to
do
a
final
review
of
everything
that
it
could
then
go
to
council
I.
Imagine
they
meet
twice
in
the
month
of
February
contractor
or
administered
by
Brisbane
police
I
think
those
are
decisions
that
are
best
left
to
the
stat
City
staff,
as
well,
in
consultation
with
Council
or
advising
Council,
because
I
think
that's
this
expertise.
A
A
If
the
city
were
to
do
a
parking
permit
program,
what
do
we
think
would
be
the
best
way
to
implement
that
in
terms
of
policies
and
general
structure,
and
then,
if
Council
says
yes,
we
want
to
go
ahead
with
this.
Then
I
think
staff
and
the
Brisbane
Police
Department
would
get
involved
in
looking
at
the
very
detailed
work
of
how
it
would
actually
be
implemented,
whether
by
Brisbane
police
or
by
an
outside
contractor
or
an
outside
contractor.
How
much
does
it
cost?
How
often
do
they
come
by
so
on
and
so
forth?
A
C
A
Do
we
think
it
should
cover
I
think
we
should
make
a
recommendation
or
it's
within
our
purview,
to
give
a
recommendation
if
we
want
to,
should
it
cover
the
costs?
Should
it
not
cover
the
costs?
Should
we
make
allocations
for
less
advantaged
people,
those
kinds
of
questions?
Should
we
have
a
phase-in
period
where
it's
free?
That
kind
of
thing
I
think
those
kind
of
recommendations
we
could
make
and
then
it's
up
to
council
to
decide
how
they
they
would.
Finally
do
it.
C
F
Pat
I
just
want
to
Echo
what
you
said
and
I.
Don't
know
if
you
recall,
but
we
were
visited
by
the
mayor
at
one
point
who
said
it's
up
to
them:
to
figure
out
the
cost.
It's
up
to
us
to
just
come
in
with
the
idea
that
it
will
work
and
if
they
can
get
it
implemented,
they
will
and
they
may
send
it
back
to
us
for
further
study.
A
C
C
A
C
No
I
I
think
that
originally,
if
I
recall
correctly,
that
the
two
you
know
standard
or
regular
parking
permit
would
be
free,
because
you
know
we
I
sort
of
one.
We
went
into
the
logic
of
you
know.
If
you
have
a
house
you,
you
obviously
need
to
park
up
two
cars
in
front
of
it
because
of
your
parking,
ventured
garage
and
so
forth,
and
then
additional
ones
with
the
I.
C
A
D
D
F
C
Like
that,
you
mean
I
mean
okay,
so
one
way
to
also
look
at
it.
You
know
you
might
have
two
conditions
right
if
you
have
an
event
you're
going
to
have
guests
coming
to
your
event
or
if
you
have
some
sort
of
consistent
person
that
needs
a
parking
that
this
is
you
and
so
for
that
might
be
another
condition.
Perhaps
we
could
use
like
like
a
speaker
that
the
handicap
people
use
and
they
could
give.
I
C
The
household
and
then
they
could
just
say
you
know,
come
get
the
speaker
that
way.
You
know
your
your
car
is
going
to
be
safe
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
parking,
but
that's
you
know,
that's
one
thought,
but
also
in
general.
Obviously,
if
you
have
a
gather,
there
might
be
some
areas
where
they
could
be
looked
at
as
guest
parking.
I,
don't
know.
A
A
A
So
flexible
and
I
think
we've
had,
the
idea
put
out
of
each
household
would
get
a
permanent
guest
parking
permit
assigned
to
them,
but
that
would
be
limited
in
time
so
that
they
could
have
people
come
over
for
dinner
or
whatever
or
late
into
the
evening,
and
they
would
get
one
per
household
and
that
might
be
good
until
say,
11
p.m
or
midnight.
Something
like
that
and
then
they
could.
Then,
if
they
needed
guest
parking
for
overnight
parking,
they
would
then
go.
A
However,
we
are
set
up
whether
it's
a
service,
company
or
Brisbane
police,
and
they
could
get
an
additional
permit
and
the
first
one
would
be
at
no
cost.
That
would
be
good
for
seven
days
of
overnight
parking
that
they
could
renew.
But
we
need
to
put
a
limit
on
how
many
times
they
can
renew
it
if
they
needed
more
than
one
overnight
parking
permit.
We
would
start
to
assess
a
peak
for
that.
So
to
discourage
excess
of
use
of
this
program.
Am
I
am
I
summarizing
where
we're
at
everybody
is
that
capture
us
accurately.
I
I
B
When
what
I
was
going
to
say
about
having
the
extras,
so
we
we
did,
we
drew
a
line
around
and
I.
Think
Patrick
you
and
I
emailed
a
little
bit
about
this
around
the
area
that
we're
talking
about,
because
there's
no
public
parking
on
the
backside
of
San
Bruno.
There's
no
public
parking
or
we're
not
dealing
with
you
know
the
mobile
home
park,
so
there's
no
parking
on
Bayshore
other
than
that.
Really
so
we're
not
dealing
with
so
some
people,
maybe
won't
want
to
per
household
I.
B
Don't
know
we're
not
absolutely
sure,
but
it's
probably
in
that
ballpark.
So
we
were
able
to
make
contact
with
the
company
that
would
manage
the
permit
issue
in
South,
San
Francisco
uses
them
I.
Think
San
Bruno
is
going
to
use
them
and
they
have.
You
know
various
accounts
all
over
the
country
and
they
were
very
enthusiastic
to
tell
us
about
their
product
and
that
was
kind
of
like
we.
We
just
want
the
high
level
stuff
at
this
point.
You
know:
how
do
you
do
it?
B
How
much
does
it
cost
so
they
they
can
issue
a
permit
depending
on
whether
someone
pays
with
credit
card
and
and
which
type
of
permit.
We
want
to
use
the
options
being
hang
tags
stickers
or
you
can
do
license
plate
readers,
Where,
It's,
All
Digital
and
you
don't
even
need
a
document
and
so
that
cost
like
15
to
20
dollars
per
permit,
which
actually
I
thought
was
pretty
good
because
you
know
if
you're
in
San
Francisco
they
charge,
maybe
around
300,
to
get
a
permit.
So
that's
pretty
reasonable.
B
They
have
a
one-time
startup
fee
of
five
thousand
dollars
to
get
your
program
into
their
system.
So
from
the
staff
perspective
it
was
feeling
like.
Maybe
we
if
it
were,
if
you
were
asking
me,
maybe
Council
funds
that
first
startup,
but
then
those
permit
fees
get
passed
on
to
the
users
we
also
were
able
to.
Luckily,
you
know
took
a
little
effort,
make
contact
with
a
company
that
does
enforcement
and
they
do
enforcement
right
now
and
San
Mateo.
B
You
know
benefits
and
they
could
do
license
plate
reading.
Also
they
could
do
any
form,
and
that
was
costing
around
40
to
45
dollars
per
permit,
because
we
need
one
full-time
person
and
I
said
seven
days,
pay
for
it
and
we
Thomas.
We
also
looked
into
and
Tomas
sent
around
the
information.
It
wasn't
real
specific,
but
the
PG
e
cares
program
applies
to
utility
billing.
So
if
you
qualify
on
an
income
basis,
you
get
a
discount
on
your
water
and
sewer
bill.
We
could
apply
that
also
to
these
permits.
B
So
if
the
hypothetically,
if
the
fee
were
a
hundred
dollars,
then
if
you
qualify
for
that
program,
maybe
your
fee
is
only
70.
I,
don't
I,
don't
know,
maybe
it's
half
I'm,
not
sure
so.
There's
a
framework
and
these
Services
would
really
build
this
Gap
that
you
know
in
a
small
City,
it's
a
real
specialized
thing
and
you're
not
big
enough
to
to
assign
a
person
completely
to
it
right.
B
I
I
There
is
a
I,
don't
know
if
it's
decided
yet,
but
there's
a
court
case
that
says
that's
a
fourth
amendment
issue
I
haven't
did
dove
into
that.
So
by
you
know
by
license
plate
reading,
it's
a
lot
more
accurate
and
it's
a
lot.
It's
a
lot
faster
as
long
as
there's
a
conduit
for
people
that,
without
access
to
computers
to
be
able
to
call
in
the
service
and
say,
hey,
I
have
guest
parking
tonight.
I
I
A
F
B
Anybody
else
yeah
there
was
a
bit
of
complications
and
I
also
wanted
to
add
the
comment
that
if
you,
if
you
have
an
increasing
fee
for
for
more
of
them,
you
know
maybe
it's
a
social
justice
issue.
Maybe
only
people
can
afford
they
can
afford.
It
are
doing
guest
parking
and
that's
not
really.
What
we're
trying
to
do.
B
You
know
I
I
did
ask
I
want
to
follow
up
on
the
the
License
Plate
Reader
I
didn't
understand,
really
well
how
they
work
and
I
said
what,
if
cars
are
parked
really
close
together,
because
we
have
that
in
this
city
and
they're
like
they
could,
they
can
read
them.
They
can
read
them
if
they're
almost
touching.
I
E
C
A
A
Car
eventually
get
to
park
somewhere
are
close
to
it.
Somebody
it's
like
musical
chairs
somebody.
A
few
people
at
the
end
of
the
day,
end
up,
probably
having
to
park
far
far
away
from
their
home
their
destination,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
everybody
gets
parked.
So
even
though
it's
a
really
big
hassle-
and
we
have
we've
been
told-
there
are
people
who
have
bumpy
numbers
of
cars
designed.
A
The
idea
is
to
take
some
of
that
pain
out
by
say,
making
it
hard
for
airports
to
Uber
people
to
park
on
our
streets
for
four
or
five
days
or
somebody
who
has
10
cars
to
park
them
all
in
front
of
their.
You
know
on
their
block
or
something
like
that.
That's
kind
of
the
idea,
I,
don't
think
we
need
to
dive
into
how
many
cars
and
how
many
parking
spaces
there
are,
because,
right
now
it
all
kind
of
balances
out.
A
F
A
A
To
move
Beyond
how
many
cars
and
how
many
parking
spaces
there
are
I
think
if
we
try
and
collect
that
data,
we're
going
to
be
here
another
year
quite
frankly,
and
if
we
try
and
try
and
balance
out
all
out,
I
think
we're
we're
getting
too
deep
into
the
details
of
this
I.
Think
we'd
like
to
say
it
not
at
a
higher
level
and
let
step
through
that.
One
city
council
decides
that
they
want
to
do
it
if
they
decide
they
want
to
do
it.
That's.
C
A
A
I'm
Irish
and
there's
an
old
Irish
saying
that
guests
like
fish
smell
after
three
days.
Okay,
all
right
so
a
week
is
a
long
time
for
somebody
to
stay
and
that
you
know
that's
a
nice
day.
But
then
you
know
that's
about
it,
but
that
you
know
if
a
person
comes
to
say
for
once,
then
they
can
come
several
times
during
the
year,
so
you
could
have
for
people
to
come
for
the
weekend.
14
times
say
something
like
that.
That
was
my
thought
on.
A
There
has
to
be
some
flexibility
for
things
like
what
Linda
just
said.
There
has
to
be
some
flexibility
for
households
that
they
have
a
kid
in
college
that
goes
to
a
local
school
and
and
and
has
a
car,
and
they
have
three
cars.
You
know
you
know
there
has
to
be
flexibility
like
that
and
I
think
in
that
case
the
the
resident
contacts,
the
city,
whether
it's
you
know,
if
there's
a
parking
going
to
be
a
parking
department
or
it's
Brisbane
police
and
and
get
approval
for
the
special
kinds
of
conditions.
B
The
staff
side,
one
of
the
advantages
of
this,
was
that
it
was
going
to
be
very
automated
because
I
think
there
are
always
people
that
want
the
exception
and
they're.
You
know
the
long
conversations
in
my
case
is
unique
and
I
don't
know,
I,
don't
know
that
I
have
an
answer
off
the
top
of
my
head.
If
you
know
you
have
your
permits,
you
need
to
park
on
the
street
and
you
have
someone
visiting
for
longer
than
the
time
that
the
committee
recommends
or
the
council
approves
for
gas
parking.
I
This
is
what
I
mean
it's
going
to
be
granted
or
not.
Those
are
my
thoughts
for
that:
okay,
whether
it
be
for
sickness
home
for
summer
or
exigent
circumstances
that
can
be
granted
by
you
know
it
can
be
submitted
through
the
program
and
then
funneled
to
us
for
approval,
just
like
a
permit
for
like
an
encouragement
permit
and
we
shoot
it
back
and
say:
okay,
you've
been
given
that
permit.
C
I,
have
a
I
mean,
that's
that's
a
good
point
and
I
guess:
I
have
like
a
a
side,
question
or
or
comment.
So
if
you
know,
hypothetically
speaking,
if
we
do
get,
you
know
this,
we
contract
this
company
that
has
that
Karen
mentioned
at
the
beginning.
Maybe
that
would
be
a
good
source
that
would
sort
of,
like
you
know,
flag
out
those
cars
that
are
saying
72
more
than
72
hours.
Would
that
be
part
of
their
book
of
enforcement?
No.
F
H
A
I
C
I
A
I
F
E
E
D
I
A
I
Does
an
online
system,
our
system,
you
can
call
in
by
the
time
they're
out
of
your
house.
You
can
definitely
call
in
the
system
or
put
it
in
the
system
that,
because
you're
going
by
license
plate
readers
that
should
automatically
populate
as
fast
as
they
can
get
it
in
so
okay,
I
think
you'll
be
safe
on
that
aspect.
Okay,.
D
A
Last
time
we
had
talked
about
it
would
be
in
a
in
the
overnight
period
and
we
really
weren't
sure
we
talked
about
different
start
time,
5
p.m
or
6
p.m.
Because
that's
when
people
are
coming
home
from
work,
another
thought
was
10
p.m
or
11
p.m.
Because
then
that's
after
most
deaths
of
fund
of
departed.
If
people
are
over
for
dinner
or
drinks
or
something
they've
kind
of
already
gone,
you
know,
and
so
it
isn't.
We
don't
need
to
worry
about
permits
until
later
at
night.
D
F
Devil's
Advocate
the
commute
seems
to
be
an
all-day
thing
these
days
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
people
coming
home
early
have
some
ownership,
emotional
ownership
or
whatever
of
the
street
parking
depending
on
their
schedule.
If
you
can
get
out
there
on
the
freeway
at
2
30
and
it's
already
getting
Bumper
to
Bumper
three
o'clock,
four
o'clock,
it's
worse,
so
I'm
just
wondering
if
there's
if
it
makes
sense
to
or
how
we
can
make
this
work
for
people
I
realize
not
everyone's
coming
home
at
the
same
time.
A
C
E
H
Guess,
because
I
keep
thinking
back
depends
what
the
issue
we're
trying
to
solve
is
and
if
it's
sort
of
the
overnight
parking
and
the
massing
of
cars,
yeah
I,
guess
the
for
me:
that's
what
the
pain
points
were,
which
is
why
I
think
the
overnight
parking
is
but
then
again
the
cost
is
the
opposite,
which
is
not
a
factor
anymore,
and
so,
if
cost
is
not
a
factor,
then
yeah
I
last
time,
I
think
I
was
less
all
right.
There's
one
big
one!
H
This
time,
I
do
feel
more
strongly
that
the
evening
is
sort
of
the
pain
point.
So
I
would
lean
toward
a
later
start
point.
Five
does
seem
really
early
for
me
in
terms
of
enforcement
and
guests
and
everything
and
then
Castle
having
to
register
everyone,
but
especially
if
it's
a
two-hour
window,
then
again
that
all
that
discussion
again,
that's
where
I
kind
of
come
back
to
it.
A
A
A
Okay
in
terms
of
because
of
say,
for
example,
a
person
who
is
storing
vehicles
on
the
street.
If
they've
got
to
move
it
at
10
pm,
they're
gonna
move
it
at
5
PM,
because
it's
light
out
right
and
they're
going
to
get
that
vehicle
all
somewhere
else,
long
term
anyway,
so
I'm
kind
of
leaning
towards
the
later
and
same
for
the
Uber
people,
they're
gonna
simply
not
park
there,
because
they
know
they're
gonna
get
towed
a
ticket
or
towed
whatever,
or
if
it's
you
know,
they're
gonna
get
a
ticket
for
48
hours
of
parking
and.
C
C
C
If
they
are
in
terms
of
oh,
you
know
you
could
park
anywhere
and
then
then
you
could
leave
a
10
and
then
after
10
is
going
to
get
enforced.
So
next
thing
you
know
a
lot
of
the
folks
here.
You
know
the
guesses
are
going
to
be
parking
in
front
of
the
houses
and
they
know
that
after
sanding,
when
they
move
it
and
then
the
actually
resident
you're
gonna
have
to
go,
get
their
vehicle
and
bring
them
back.
C
So
that's
why
I
was
anticipating
that,
with
the
rules
of
the
game
being
more
clear,
people
are
going
to
feel
entitled
to
park.
You
know
pretty
much
anywhere
and
say:
hey
I'm,
just
following
the
rules
right
and
then
after
10
you
could
you
know,
then
the
parking
program
permit
is
going
to
be
enforced,
but
for
now
it's
not
I
could
park
in
front
of
your
house.
So
that's
what
I'm
intensity.
A
C
A
C
Problem
dealing
with
parking
and
then
you
talk
to
the
you
know,
so
it
takes
a
little
bit
for
them
to
learn
the
to
get
on
on
board
with
the
learning
curve
in
terms
of
parking
and
then
they
they
sort
of
get
the
picture,
and
then
they
tell
their
guests
to
go
park
at
the
streets
where
they
have
most
horsepower
right,
because
so
that's
from
the
Gateway
you're
saying
you
know
hey.
So
that's
what
I
was
also
saying
that
there
should
probably
be
some
area
destinated
as
guest
parking,
so
that
could
also
help.
F
G
F
Exactly
thank
you,
I
mean
I,
understand,
Christian,
saying,
and
there
is
a
culture
on
every
street
of
where
that's
where
she
parks
and
that's
where
he
parks-
and
you
know
you
might
even
get
yelled
at
for
parking
there.
But
technically
it's
legal,
so
I
think
we
should
stick
with
what
we've
got
so
far.
A
A
C
Yeah
I
think
in
terms
of
visitation,
if
you
want
to
clarify
the
I'm
assuming
the
business
owners
would
be
looked
at
us
as
households,
so
to
speak,
and
they
would
get
a
business
and
sometimes,
if
you're
going
to
work
late,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
an
overnighter,
so
I
think
they
they
might
need
to.
We
probably
need
to
think
about
how
to
get
with
some
sort
of
more
or
less
the
same
criteria
that
we're
using
for
household.
You
know
where
they
could
buy
parking
permanent
stuff.
A
F
F
A
Know,
let
me
let
me
throw
something
out,
and
this
actually
kind
of
maybe
solved
the
guest
parking
problem
is
exclude.
Visitation,
don't
include
it
that
lets
business,
that
let
the
Elks
stay
open
to
do
what
we
have
people
there
at
2
A.M,
no
problem
it
lets
business
owners,
stay
late
or
come
early
and
run
out
of
guest
permit
and
put
their
car
over
there.
And
you
know
it
cannot.
It
cannot
become
a
storage
problem
or
an
Uber
Airport
problem
because
of
the
two-hour
limit
during
the
daytime.
C
D
A
B
D
A
F
F
C
F
C
A
A
B
Probably
advertise
it
in
the
winter,
so
we're
ready
to
start
right
after
noon
to
the
rainy
season.
Okay,
we've
also
got
on
and
you
guys
are
probably
the
first
to
hear
about
it,
because
we
just
found
out
this
afternoon.
We've
also
got
on
the
council's
agenda.
Just
an
update
on
all
the
grants
that
we
got.
You
guys
should
be
familiar
except
a
couple.
People
maybe
missed
last
meeting
we
I
can't
even
name
all
of
them.
B
I
have
to
open
the
agenda
report,
but
a
grant
to
improve
shuttle
stops
in
Crocker
Park.
We
also
applied
for
a
grant
from
the
Transportation
Authority.
You
know
when,
when
you
guys
vote
for
these
these
extra
sales
taxes
or
or
Transportation
related
funding,
you
know
they
get
distributed
back
to
the
cities
and
we've
done
really
well,
and
maybe
Tomas
is
our
lucky
charm,
because
he's
he's
applied
he's
done
the
you
know
the
grunt
work
and
gotten
us
a
couple.
B
Guys
have
prioritized
in
the
past
few
years
and
and
I
guess
I'm,
making
that
presentation
to
council
and
I'm
going
to
mention
that
the
letters
of
support
from
the
community
and
the
Committees
and
the
POA
and
all
of
that
helped
us
with
that.
So
we
got.
We
got
a
lot
great
on
the
burners
to
try
to
get
built
in
the
next
couple
years.
A
A
B
And
I
might
have
mentioned
before
I
think
on
the
at
the
state
level.
They're
looking
at
the
end
of
February
is
going
to
be
the
end
of
all
remote
meetings.
I,
don't
have
a
lot
more
information,
I
I
think
we
might
be
able
to
do
hybrid,
but
we'll
have
more
updates
in
January
and
February,
but
in
March
there
will
be
at
least
the
option
to
be
in
person
in
the
community
meeting,
room
and
I'll
know
more
as
we
get
closer.
B
A
F
B
Us
the
ability
to
treat
it
maybe
and
I'm,
not
sure
it's
just
you
know
they
suspended
kind
of
the
brown
act
requirement
to
meet
in
person
and
did
this
this
modification
where
people
could
call
into
a
meeting
and
at
some
point
we
knew
it
it
kind
of
had
to
end,
but
if
a
hybrid
would
mean
that
you
can
still
be
remote
and
the
public
could
come
in
person
to
the
meeting
place
and
be
also
on
the
zoom.
You
know
if.
F
A
A
I'm
sure
they'll
allow
hybrid
meetings
to
continue
for
sure
and
there's
a
there's,
a
large
enough
and
I
think
yeah.
The
population
that
needs
to
be
protected
is
is
now
clearly
understood,
right
and
I.
Think
I
think
they'll
probably
continue
to
allow
that
part
of
the
population
to
protect,
to
be
protected
and
I.
Think
that's
I'm.
Sure
hybrid
minions
will
probably
continue.
A
H
Yeah,
so
we
had
one
meeting
of
the
I
guess:
it's
the
Sierra
Point
subcommittee
for
the
open
space
and
parks
for
that
development
of
the
the
area
by
the
marina,
and
so
just
to
give
you
a
sense.
It
was
a
walk
through
the
site
with
the
Consultants
who
are
leading
the
project
and
the
first
phase
is
sort
of
the
research
phase
which
they
had
completed.
H
There
was
one
meeting
prior
to
this
that
I
did
not
attend,
or
maybe
two
meetings
where
they
sort
of
set
the
scope
for
the
project,
and
this
time
they
came
back
with
a
packet
which
is
available
on
the
website.
You
know
with
the
agenda
and
everything,
but
they
sort
of
came
in
with
you
know
some
description
of
the
geography
of
the
area,
some
of
the
ongoing
projects,
those
are
ongoing
developments
that
are,
you,
know,
happening
and
will
happen
soon,
and
the
whole
scope
is
sort
of
a
50
and
100
year
plan.
H
So
I
guess
the
idea
is
to
have
like
a
long-term
plan,
a
long-term
Division,
and
then
this
could
be
a
phased
approach.
It's
still
really
early
in
the
process.
At
this
point
there
was
some
suggest,
suggestions
of
sort
of
they're.
You
know
they're,
the
next
I
guess
deliverable
will
be
the
the
committee
will
or
the
Consultants
will
come
back
with
a
a
couple
design
suggestions.
So
in
the
last
meeting
they
presented
a
few
sort
of
big
picture
ideas
of
zones.
H
If
you
will
so
sort
of
a
play
zone
or
a
you
know,
one
idea
was
a
beach
or
a
waterfront,
Zone
and
sort
of
different
regions,
but
nothing
gets
set
and
so
sort
of
how
to
think
about
the
whole
area
and
sort
of
what
the
requirements
for
parking
might
be
and
for
sort
of
the
community
for
access
to
that
area.
So
all
that
is
being
considered
still
in
the
next.
Like
I
said.
H
The
next
thing
will
be
sort
of
proposals
of
just
general
ideas
of
what
might
be
included
in
that
area,
and
this
is
all
based
on
surveys
that
have
gone
out
to
the
community
as
well.
I
think
they're,
taking
sort
of
all
the
surveys
in
sort
of
we'll
come
back
with
a
few
suggestions
of
what
could
be
there
based
on
the
feedback
and
then
from
there
will
be
sort
of
another
round
of
feedback.
H
You
know
and
sort
of
iterations
if
you
will,
but
this
was
again
a
walk
through
the
site
and
then
we
sort
of
sat
through
looked
through
this
master
plan.
They
suggested
the
big
consideration
is
the
Water
Rising,
obviously,
and
sort
of
what
that
means,
and
you
know
there
was
one
idea
or
a
couple
suggestions
of:
do
you
want
to
make
it?
You
know
sort
of
a
public
park
with
a
more
art
design.
H
A
H
Not
sure
about
that
yeah
yeah
I
didn't
get
a
sense
of
that
exact
timeline.
I
know
the
next
deliverable
will
be
sort
of
like
I,
said
the
the
first
initial
sketches
of
what
could
be
there.
But
then
there
is
sort
of
gonna
be
an
Outreach
phase
again
and
sort
of
more
additional.
You
know
so
I
think
it'll
be
quite
a
long
process,
but
I
can
follow
up
on
that
yeah.
So.
C
C
H
H
H
These
are
going
to
projections,
and
so
they're
are
certain
structures
there
that
are
currently
there,
like
the
the
Harbor
House
and
the
yacht
club
and
those
that
are
sort
of
maybe
in
the
danger
zone
and
to
the
and
the
consideration
is
sort
of
what
to
do
with
those
structures
in
terms
of
or
like
the
sheds
there
or
the
bathrooms
long
term.
And
then
you
know
whether
you
have
a
Promenade
there.
H
The
option
is
for
retaining
all
sort
of
structure,
but
of
course
you
know
depends
how
far
off
the
build
that
because
water
will
get
around.
So
those
are
all
sort
of
I
think
part
of
that
sort
of
developed
further
upstream
and
it's
all
sort
of
in
this
scope
and
projections,
and
all
that,
so
they
are
aware
very
much
of
a
sort
of
the
projected
water
rises
and
I
do
encourage
you
check
the
packet
out.
That
was
very
informative.
H
For
me,
I
was
not
aware
of
sort
of
King
ties
and
where
water
already
comes
to
and
so
sort
of,
if
you're
familiar
with
the
area
of
the
Lord
I
thought
that
does
tend
to
flood
already.
So
that's
sort
of
in
the
danger
zone
and
so
sort
of
the
bathroom
is
there
they're
at
a
high
enough
elevation,
but
there's
also
considerations
for,
for
example,
the
marina
docks
currently
are
not
up
to
code
it.
So
any
in
terms
of
the
angle
for
for
accessibility
and
so
any
sort
of
Renovations.
H
H
Yeah
and
I
mean
for
me
personally,
it's
shocking
to
see
the
water
Tree
Line
a
lot
of
the
trees.
There
there's
already
salt
water
damage
from
the
water
coming
up
into
the
trees,
and
so
you
know
consideration
for
what
kind
of
plants-
and
you
know,
sort
of
a
Florida
place
there,
where
they're,
making
more
natural
habitat
or
what?
What
to
do
there,
that's
sort
of
all
all
being
discussed.
H
H
How
do
you
connect
and
that's
also
part
of
I-
think
the
grand
plan
and
just
sort
of
different
phases
of
that
yeah,
but
that
was
sort
of
one
I
think
there
are
also
new
buildings
going
up
there,
I
guess
a
hotel,
that's
the
plan
for
the
area
that
sort
of
very
early
phases
as
well
so
I
think
that'll
all
depend
on.
You
know
I
think
a
lot
of
commercial
area
there
that
sort
of
still
open
and
not
yet
rented
out
so
yeah,
definitely
all
considerations
there.