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Topic: Complete Streets Safety Committee Meeting
Time: December 7 2022, 6:30 PM Pacific Time (US and Canada)
00:00:00 MEETING SETUP AND INTRODUCTION
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00:05:42 ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA
00:06:33 ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
00:06:55 APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES
A. Minutes of November 2, 2022
00:08:23 OLD BUSINESS
B. Investigation of Residential Parking Permit program for Central Brisbane
NEW BUSINESS
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C
B
H
B
Okay,
the
minutes
are
adopted,
approved
I
would
like
to
say,
I
thought
the
minutes
were
really
terrific.
I,
don't
know
how
much
time
everyone
had
to
be
able
to
read
through
them,
but
I
thought
they
were
exceptionally
good
this
time
so
Karen
and
Tomas.
Thank
you.
That
was
a
very
detailed
capture
of
our
discussion.
Last
meeting.
B
B
B
The
final
item
is
to
discuss
whether
we
include
visitation
or
not
so
I
guess
where
I'd
like
to
start
tonight
is
looking
at
hours
of
Opera.
Okay,
no,
let's
go
right
on
what
we
have
here
on
screen,
let's
start
with
guest
parking,
since
we
discussed
that
at
the
last
meeting,
but
we
did
not
reach
a
consensus.
B
On
the
other
hand,
we
do
not
want
to
be
so
restrictive
that
it
makes
it
difficult
for
people
to
have
visitors,
whether
for
a
few
days
visiting
or
or
a
night
and
so
forth.
So
if
we
could
start
our
discussion
on
thoughts
on
a
guest
permit
program
now,
that
would
be
great
any
thoughts.
Anybody
want
to
start
off
on
that.
C
C
Today,
for
a
couple
of
minutes-
and
we
talked
about
whether
your
permit
structure,
your
recommendation
would
be
like
San
Francisco's,
where,
if
you
don't
have
a
permit,
you
can
park
for
two
hours
in
the
zone
or
whether
you
cannot
park
at
all.
Unless
you
have
a
guest
parking
permit.
So
I
think
that
would
affect
how
many
you
wanted
to
issue
and
for
what
length
of
time.
B
Okay,
so
why
don't?
Why
don't
we
reach
a
consensus
on
that
first,
I?
Think,
last
month,
when
we
were
discussing
this,
we
were
all
assuming
that
there
would
be
a
two
hour
allowable
period
of
parking
and
that
at
least
as
I
looked
back
through
the
minutes
and
watched
the
video
that
that
was
kind
of
our
thinking
at
that
time.
Any
thoughts
on
that
do
we
want
to
allow
two
hours
before
a
permit.
Yes,
Linda.
F
I
watched
the
video
and
read
everything
I
also
thought
that
the
minutes
were
great.
One
of
the
things
that
I
have
to
question
is
short-term
versus
long-term
guest
parking.
Sometimes
when
my
family
comes
it's
from
across
the
country
and
they
stay
more
than
a
two-hour
period
yeah
but
I'm
wondering
if
we
need
to
separate
long-term
to
short-term
and
maybe
get
long-term
by
requesters.
F
B
B
That
would
be
my
thought
and
a
city
that
we
lived
in
outside
of
Chicago.
Have
this
kind
of
there
was
no
street
parking
allowed?
All
the
houses
had
alleys
behind
because
they
were
so
old
and
so
residents
always
parked
behind
and
because
of
snow
removal.
There
was
just
no
street
parking
allowed
in
front
of
the
house,
and
that
made
it
very
easy
to
enforce
at
least
overnight
street
parking
and
what
you
did
was.
B
If
you
had
guests,
you
would
call
up
the
police
department
and
say
this
was
this
is
25
years
ago
there
was
no
internet
system
registration
system,
you
would
call
it.
The
police
department
give
them
the
license
number
and
say
this
car
will
be
here
for
tonight
days
and
they
would
market
and
on
their
patrols.
They
knew
that
was
a
car
that
was
acceptable
to
be
parked
on
the
street.
That's
kind
of
how
I
envisioned
it
to
work.
H
Yeah
I'm
gonna
comment
I
also
like
the
idea,
I
think
for
me
it
comes
down
again
to
kind
of
enforcement
of
it,
which
is
maybe
the
same
chicken
AG
issue
we
talked
about
earlier,
is
how
do
we
enforce
it
in
order
to
make
sure
that
those
limits
are?
You
know
meaningful,
so
I'd
be
curious
to
hear
if
there's
some
updates,
maybe
on
that-
or
maybe
you
know,
but
otherwise,
I
think
yeah
I
agree,
there
should
be
flexibility
and
some
sort
of
I
mean
yeah
ideal.
H
D
Yeah
so
just
wanted
to
make
sure
I
understood
the
introduction
of
today's
meeting
and
put
things
into
perspective,
so
what
the
the
topics
that
are
still
pending
for
us
to
process
or
the
guest
parking
right,
the
cost
structures
and
an
enforcement.
So
one
of
the
things
I
think
we
might.
We
might
influence
what
we're
talking
about
now.
D
If
we
decide
what
route
to
go
in
turn
in
terms
of
enforcement,
if
it's
going
to
be
done
by
you
know
by
the
city
police
force
or
if
we're
going
to
subcontract
it,
then
we're
going
to
have
different
way
of
maybe
based
on
their
technology
or
capacity
how
to
handle.
You
know
get
sparking,
but
in
terms
of
so
that's
that's
one.
D
B
Okay,
good
I,
I
thought
I
thought
I'd
sent
a
message
to
everyone,
but
let
me
let
me
put
it
out,
so
we
initially
had
committed
to
council
that
we
would
have
been
finished
last
month
and
obviously
that
did
not
come
to
pass.
This
is
much
more
complex
than
I
think
we
anticipated
and
and
I've
spoken
with
the
mayor
and
committed
to
her
that
we
could
be.
We
should
be
able
to
send
a
recommendation
to
council
in
February.
B
So
my
thinking
is
that
if
we
can
wrap
up
things
between
this
meeting
and
our
January
meeting,
that
gives
us
the
February
meeting
to
do
a
final
review
of
everything
that
it
could
then
go
to
council
I.
Imagine
they
meet
twice
in
the
month
of
February,
but
at
whatever
meeting
the
first
meeting
of
the
month
of
the
second
meeting
of
the
month.
B
Right
so
you
know
we
don't
we
don't
have
to
work
on
the
details
of
outside
contractor
or
administered
by
Brisbane
police
I
think
those
are
decisions
that
are
best
left
to
the
stat
City
staff,
as
well,
in
consultation
with
Council
or
advising
Council,
because
I
think
that's
just
expertise.
We
do
not
have
as
well
as
a
consultation
with
Brisbane
police
department,
since,
if
they're
the
ones
that
do
it
they're
the
ones
that
would
have
to
do
it.
B
They
have
much.
All
of
them
have
much
more
experience
in
this
than
we
do.
I
think
our
tasks
from
the
city
is
to
sketch
out
the
larger
over
the
umbrella
policies
that
that
kind
of
just
overarching
on
the
entire
program,
and
then
the
details
of
implementation
would
be
between
staff
and
Brisbane
police
working
together
and
then
that
final
decision
out
of
council
so
I
at
this
point,
I
think
council
is
asking
the
question
of.
B
If
the
city
were
to
do
a
parking
permit
program,
what
do
we
think
would
be
the
best
way
to
implement
that
in
terms
of
policies
and
general
structure?
And
then,
if
Council
says
yes,
we
want
to
go
ahead
with
this,
then
I
think
staff
and
the
Brisbane
Police
Department
would
get
involved
in
looking
at
the
very
detailed
work
of
how
it
would
actually
be
implemented,
whether
by
Brisbane
police
or
by
an
outside
contractor
or
an
outside
contractor.
How
much
does
it
cost?
How
often
do
they
come
by
so
on
and
so
forth?
B
D
B
Do
we
think
it
should
cover
I
think
we
should
make
a
recommendation
or
it's
within
our
purview,
to
give
a
recommendation
if
we
want
to,
should
it
cover
the
costs?
Should
it
not
cover
the
cost?
Should
we
make
allocations
for
less
advantaged
people,
those
kinds
of
questions?
Should
we
have
a
phase-in
period
where
it's
free?
That
kind
of
thing
I
think
those
kind
of
recommendations
we
could
make
and
then
it's
up
to
council
to
decide
how
they
they
would.
Finally
do
it.
B
F
Pat
I
just
want
to
Echo
what
you
said
and
I.
Don't
know
if
you
recall,
but
we
were
visited
by
the
mayor
at
one
point
who
said
it's
up
to
them:
to
figure
out
the
cost.
It's
up
to
us
to
just
come
in
with
the
idea
that
will
work
and
if
they
can
get
it
implemented,
they
will
and
they
may
send
it
back
to
us
for
further
study.
F
But
at
this
point
we're
just
doing
the
outline,
as
you
said
and
I
I,
don't
think
we
need
to
get
into
the
minutia
very
much,
but
there
will
be
questions
like
the
guest
permits
and
how
we
suggest
they
work
or
give
them
a
couple
of
Alternatives
enforcement.
I
think
we
should
just
leave
that
up
to
the
council
completely,
because
they're
going
to
be
checking
costs
so.
B
D
So
there's
no
confusion
on
the
other.
You
know
Vehicles,
based
on
the
on
the
system
and
okay.
So
what
I
was
saying
is
in
terms
of,
if
you
do,
that,
with
a
contract
versus
you
know
the
the
bridge
window
city
police
force,
it
would
be
different
way
of
handling
that
perhaps
the
contract
will
have
more
of
a
lot
of
technological
programs,
way
of
doing
that
versus
a
you
know,
city
the
police
force
and
the
in
Brisbane.
D
B
D
No
I
I
think
that
originally,
if
I
recall
correctly,
that
the
two
you
know
standard
or
regular
parking
permit
would
be
free,
because
you
know
we
I
sort
of
one.
We
went
into
the
logic
of
you
know.
If
you
have
a
house
you,
you
obviously
need
to
park
up
two
cars
in
front
of
it
because
of
your
parking,
ventured
garage
and
so
forth,
and
then
additional
ones
with
the
I.
D
E
E
F
D
Like
that
you
mean
I
mean
okay,
so
one
way
to
also
look
at
it.
You
know
you
might
have
two
conditions
right
if
you
have
an
event
you're
going
to
have
guests
coming
to
your
event
or
if
you
have
some
sort
of
consistent
person
that
needs
a
parking
that
this
is
you
and
so
for
that
might
be
another
condition.
Perhaps
we
could
use
like
like
a
speaker
that
the
handicap
people
use
and
then
you
could
give.
I
D
The
household
and
then
they
could
just
say
you
know,
come
get
the
speaker
that
way.
You
know
your
your
car
is
going
to
be
safe
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
parking,
but
that's
you
know,
that's
one
thought,
but
also
in
general.
Obviously,
if
you
have
a
gather,
there
might
be
some
areas
where
they
could
be
looked
at
as
a
guest
parking.
I,
don't
know.
D
B
B
I
B
So
flexible
and
I
think
we've
had,
the
idea
put
out
of
each
household
would
get
a
permanent
guest
parking
permit
assigned
to
them,
but
that
would
be
limited
in
time
so
that
they
could
have
people
come
over
for
dinner
or
whatever
or
late
into
the
evening,
and
they
would
get
one
per
household
and
that
might
be
good
until
say,
11
p.m
or
midnight.
Something
like
that
and
then
they
could.
Then,
if
they
needed
guest
parking
for
overnight
parking,
they
would
then
go.
B
However,
we
are
set
up
whether
it's
a
service,
company
or
Brisbane
police,
and
they
could
get
an
additional
permit
and
the
first
one
would
be
at
no
cost.
That
would
be
good
for
seven
days
of
overnight
parking
that
they
could
renew.
But
we
need
to
put
a
limit
on
how
many
times
they
can
renew
it
if
they
needed
more
than
one
overnight
parking
permit.
We
would
start
to
assess
a
peak
for
that.
So
to
discourage
excess
of
use
of
this
program.
Am
I
am
I
summarizing
where
we're
at
everybody
is
that
capture
us
accurately.
B
C
When
what
I
was
going
to
say
about
having
the
extras,
so
we
we
did,
we
drew
a
line
around
and
I.
Think
Patrick
you
and
I
emailed
a
little
bit
about
this
around
the
area
that
we're
talking
about,
because
there's
no
public
parking
on
the
back
side
of
San
Bruno,
there's
no
public
parking
or
we're
not
dealing
with
you
know
the
mobile
home
parks,
so
there's
no
parking
on
Bayshore
other
than
that
really
so
we're
not
dealing
with
those
areas
in
the
couple
private
streets
that
go
up
the
upper
Hillside.
C
C
So
we
were
able
to
make
contact
with
the
company
that
would
manage
the
permit
issue
in
South,
San
Francisco
uses
them
I.
Think
San
Bruno
is
going
to
use
them
and
they
have.
You
know
various
accounts.
All
over
the
country-
and
they
were
very
enthusiastic
to
tell
us
about
their
product
and
that
was
kind
of
like
we.
We
just
want
the
high
level
stuff
at
this
point.
You
know:
how
do
you
do
it?
C
How
much
does
it
cost
so
they
they
can
issue
a
permit
depending
on
whether
someone
pays
with
credit
card
and
and
which
type
of
permit,
we
want
to
use
the
options
being
hang
tags
stickers
or
you
can
do
license
plate
readers,
Where,
It's,
All
Digital
and
you
don't
even
need
a
document
and
so
that
cost
like
15
to
20
dollars
per
permit,
which
actually
I
thought
was
pretty
good
because
you
know
if
you're
in
San
Francisco
they
charge,
maybe
around
300,
to
get
a
permit.
So
that's
pretty
reasonable.
C
They
have
a
one-time
startup
fee
of
five
thousand
dollars
to
get
your
program
into
their
system.
So
from
the
staff
perspective
it
was
feeling
like.
Maybe
we
if
it
were,
if
you
were
asking
me,
maybe
Council
funds
that
first
startup,
but
then
those
permit
fees
get
passed
on
to
the
users
we
also
were
able
to.
Luckily,
you
know
it's
a
little
effort
make
contact
with
a
company
that
does
enforcement
and
they
do
enforcement
right
now
and
San
Mateo.
C
So
it'd
be
one
full-time
body
and
all
of
their.
You
know
benefits
and
they
could
do
license
plate
reading.
Also
they
could
do
any
form,
and
that
was
costing
around
40
to
45
dollars
per
permit,
because
we
need
one
full-time
person
and
I
said
seven
days
a
week,
because
I
just
wanted
to
get
a
higher
level
of
estimate.
D
C
Oh
reasonable,
so
from
this
again
from
staff's
perspective,
if
we
put
on
there's
going
to
be
some
management
and
coordination
on
our
part,
I'm
going
to
have
to
figure
out
what
the
program
does
and
how
much
staff
time,
but
we're
maybe
in
the
ballpark
of
a
hundred
dollars
for
a
permit
per
year,
which
is
not
terrible
as
as
the
cost,
whether
it
be
Council
totally
funds
it
or
people
have
to
pay
for
it
and
we
Thomas.
We
also
looked
into
and
Tomas
sent
around
the
information.
C
It
wasn't
real
specific,
but
the
PG
e
cares
program
applies
to
utility
billing.
So
if
you
qualify
on
an
income
basis,
you
get
a
discount
on
your
water
and
sewer
bill.
We
could
apply
that
also
to
these
permits.
So
if
the
hypothetically,
if
the
fee
were
a
hundred
dollars,
then
if
you
qualify
for
that
program,
maybe
your
fee
is
only
70.
I,
don't
I,
don't
know,
maybe
it's
half
I'm,
not
sure
so.
C
There's
a
framework-
and
these
Services
would
really
build
this
Gap
that
you
know
in
a
small
City,
it's
a
real
specialized
thing
and
they're
not
big
enough
to
to
assign
a
person
completely
to
it
right.
So
I
I
don't
know
if
this
would
be
a
good
time
if
Mario
is
still
available,
but
we,
when
I,
had
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
him
a
little
bit.
He
was
very
supportive
of
license
plate
reading
as
a
way
to
issue
these
permits.
So
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
comment
on
that
Mario
or
if
you
have.
J
I
am
so
there's
a
looming
issue
of
marking
vehicles
and
tagging
Vehicles.
Let's
say
like
you
Chuck
your
vehicles,
there
is
a
I,
don't
know
if
it's
decided
yet,
but
there's
a
court
case
that
says
that's
a
fourth
amendment
issue.
I
haven't
did
dove
into
that.
So
by
you
know
by
license
plate
reading
it's
a
lot
more
accurate
and
it's
a
lot.
J
It's
a
lot
faster
as
long
as
there's
a
conduit
for
people
that,
without
access
to
computers
to
be
able
to
call
in
their
service
and
say,
hey
I,
guess
parking
tonight.
This
is
the
license
plate
and
someone
actually
inputs
that,
because
not
everybody
has
access
to
personal
computers
or
their
phones,
so
I
think
in
terms
of
enforcement
and
tracking.
Then
the
portion
where
the
License
Plate
Reader
would
be
much
better.
J
B
F
Excuse
me
I,
really
like
the
idea
of
license
plate
readers,
which
is
great.
We
just
need
a
form
of
registration
and
a
call-in
guest
permit
thing
with
no
fee
or
a
fee
attached,
depending
on
how
long
the
person's
staying,
maybe
not
even
that
I,
don't
I
think
we
need
to
kind
of
back
up
just
a
little
bit
and
simplify
this
whole
process.
C
C
You
know
I
I
did
ask
I
want
to
follow
up
on
the
the
License
Plate
Reader
I
didn't
understand,
really
well
how
they
work
and
I
said
what,
if
cars
are
parked
really
close
together,
because
we
have
that
in
this
city
and
they're
like
they
could,
they
can
read
them.
They
can
read
them
even
if
they're
almost
touching.
D
D
But
one
of
the
things
we
you
know
we
have
been
talking
about
if
there's
a
way
of
getting
some
rough
estimate
in
terms
of
the
streets
of
Brisbane
Waters,
their
capacity.
If
you're
saying,
let's
say
you
know
we're
just
talking
we're
just
thinking
out
loud
in
a
sense,
we
don't
have
like
part
well,
knowing
this
but
I,
think
you
know
it's
good
to
talk
about
and
have
some
sense,
and
perhaps
you
can
do
how
to
develop
a
method,
get
more
more
data.
That
is
more
assertive.
D
But
let's
say
if
you're
looking
at
3100
cars
and
the
average
length
of
a
car
is
what
I
don't
know
like
12
feet
and
then,
if
you,
then
you
count
the
the
parking,
the
capacity
of
all
the
streets
and
parking.
You
know
that
will
give
us
a
sense
where
you
know
if
we're
like
brand
the
money
or
or
off,
or
why
not.
D
B
B
B
So
even
though
it's
a
really
big
hassle-
and
we
have
we've
been
told-
there
are
people
who
have
humping
numbers
of
cars
and
there
are
likely
some
people
parking
and
taking
Uber
to
the
airport
on
our
pretty
normal
streets
and
taking
Uber
to
the
airport
that
consumes
parking.
We
really
don't
need
to
worry
about
how
many
cars
there
are
in
Brisbane
and
how
many
parking
places
there
are
because
right
now
it
kind
of
works
painful,
but
it
does
work.
B
This
program
is
to
take
design
the
ideas
to
take
some
of
that
pain
out
by
say,
making
it
hard
for
airports
just
to
Uber
people
to
park
on
our
streets
for
four
or
five
days
or
somebody
who
has
10
cars
to
park
them
all
in
front
of
their.
You
know
on
their
block
or
something
like
that.
That's
kind
of
the
idea:
I,
don't
think
we
need
to
dive
into
how
many
cars
and
how
many
parking
spaces
there
are,
because,
right
now
it
all
kind
of
balances
out.
B
F
H
I
think
one
of
the
things
we
talked
about
last
time,
which
I
really
liked
was
this
idea
of
a
grace
period
of
maybe
a
year.
People
can
sort
of
come
forth.
How
many
permits
they
would
need
or
would
want,
and
maybe
that
helps
us
sort
of
gauge.
You
know
with
the
actual
need
for
but
I
agree.
It's
sort
of
kind
of
organically
happens.
I
do
want
to
also
say
that
I'm,
a
huge
fan
of
the
Plate
Reader
idea,
the
cost
that
was
sort
of
quoted
I.
Think
that's.
A
B
B
Me
interrupt
I'd
like
us
to
move
Beyond
how
many
cars
and
how
many
parking
spaces
there
are
I.
Think
if
we
try
and
collect
that
data,
we're
going
to
be
here
another
year
quite
frankly,
and
if
we
try
and
try
and
sell
us
all
out,
I
think
we're
we're
getting
too
deep
into
the
details
of
this
I.
Think
we'd
like
to
stay
at
all,
not
at
a
higher
level
and
let
step
through
that
and
one
city
council
decides
that
they
want
to
do
it.
If
they
decide
they
want
to
do
it.
That's.
D
D
You
know
I'm
just
saying
it
I
think
adjusting
before
I
mention
it,
and
so
much
has
mentioned
it
that
in
their
school
they
had
some
sort
of
method
to
get
a
sense
and
now
with
Google
Map.
Quite
frankly,
I
could
go
in
and
do
it
myself.
This
is
just
a
rough
estimate,
but
I
do
disagree
with
you
that
this
this
data
point
I'm
not
saying
it's
going
to
determine
everything,
but
it
would.
It
would
be
good
to
have
that's
awesome,
but
we
could
definitely
move
on
okay,
okay,.
G
G
It
oh
yeah
I
was
just
saying
that
how
Christian
mentioned
that
I
did
mention
that
I
was
going
to
try
to
look
into
getting
the
street
capacity
and
then
I
also
had
to
realize
it
wasn't
quite
as
simple
as
I
thought
it
would
be.
So
that's
why
I
you
know
we
don't
have
an
estimate
or
something
like
that
at
the
moment.
But
that's
why
I
think
that's
why
he
even
mentioned
my
name.
B
All
right,
okay,
see
if
we
can
move
on
I
mean
we're
already
in
quite
a
bit
of
time,
just
on
guest
parking.
Let's
see
if
we
can
I
agree
with
Belinda,
we
should
maybe
simplify
it
and
let
me
just
throw
something
out
as
an
idea
that
a
household
gets
one
guest
parking
permit
or
two
guest
parking
permits
that
have
to
be
renewed
every
day,
but
that's
a
good
for
24
hours
and,
let's
just
say,
there's
a
limit
of
15
or
14
parking
days
at
a
guest
permit
system
is
allowed.
B
B
So
I'm
you
know,
we've
talked
about.
Maybe
one
two
permits:
okay,
that
fits
into
that
and
I'm
thinking.
You
know
when
people
come
to
say
to
visit
more
than
just
for
dinner.
They
might
you
know
you
know,
there's
a
I'm,
Iris
and
there's
an
old
Irish
saying
that
guests
like
fish
smell
after
three
days.
B
Okay,
all
right
so
a
week
is
a
long
time
for
somebody
to
stay
and
that
you
know
that's
a
nice
stay.
But
then
you
know
that's
about
it,
but
that
you
know
if
a
person
comes
to
say
for
once,
then
they
can
come
several
times
during
the
year,
so
you
could
have
for
people
to
come
for
the
weekend
14
times
today.
B
Right
up
to
four
to
up
to
a
total
of
14
permanent
guest
permit
days
per
year,
and
it
could
be
with
one
permit
for
two
days
and
then
two
permits
for
two
more
days,
which
would
get
you
up
to
six
permit
days
so
on
and
so
forth.
And
if
there's
all
online,
the
computer
calculates
all
of
this
and
can
actually
tell
the
person
the
the
resident
hey
you
have.
You
know
X
number
of
permit
guest
permits
left
for
the
year.
You
know
I
mean
it's
also.
It's
easy
to
calculate
automatically.
F
F
I
think
that
yeah
instead
of
I
mean
basically
I'm,
sorry,
the
dog,
basically
it
it
makes
sense
what
you're
saying,
but
it
also
feels
like
there's
no
room
to
to
have
long-term
guests
and
and
I
know
that
that
can
become
a
problem
if
people
abuse
it
as
extra
parking
for
you
know
their
Adu
or
something
like
that,
but
yeah
I
think
there
needs
to
be
an
exception
in
some
way.
Care.
B
C
C
B
I
think
you
know
one
of
the
one
of
the
things
we
talked
about
several
months
ago
and
and
with
respect
to
the
four
two
permits
for
Resident
and
I
think
it
applies
to
guest
permit.
There
has
to
be
some
flexibility
for
things
like
what
Linda
just
said.
There
has
to
be
some
flexibility
for
households
that
they
have
a
kid
in
college
that
goes
to
a
local
school
and
and
and
has
a
car,
and
they
have
three
cars.
B
You
know
you
know
there
has
to
be
flexibility
like
that
and
I
think
in
that
case
the
the
resident
contacts,
the
city,
whether
it's
you
know,
if
there's
a
parking
going
to
be
a
parking
department
or
it's
Brisbane
police
and
and
get
approval
for
these
special
kinds
of
conditions.
I
think
there
has
to
be
that
kind
of
flexibility
and
I
would
trust
it
to
whoever
that
person
or
those
people
are
that
they
are
aware
of
the
potential
for
abuse
and
would
know
how
to
deal
with
to
prevent
that.
F
C
Yeah
I
I
think
I,
don't
want
to
speak
for
the
police,
but
I
know
that
in
a
in
a
small
town,
people
know
the
staff,
they
know
the
police
and
I
think
on
the
staff
side.
One
of
the
advantages
of
this
was
that
it
was
going
to
be
very
automated
because
I
think
there
are
always
people
that
want
the
exception
and
they're.
You
know
the
long
conversations
in
my
case
is
unique
and
I
don't
know,
I,
don't
know
that
I
have
an
answer
off
the
top
of
my
head.
C
If
you
know
you
have
your
permits,
you
need
to
park
on
the
street
and
you
have
someone
visiting
for
longer
than
the
time
that
the
committee
recommends
or
the
council
approves
for
gas
parking.
But
you
know
they
could
go
park
in
front
of
Patrick's
house
on
the
ridge,
but
I
mean
I'm
up
here.
They're,
probably
some
ways
around
it,
but
I
think
we
want
to
set
up
a
program
that
that
that
you
know
there's
always
going
to
be
something
that
doesn't
work,
but
that
doesn't
have
to
be
decided
on
a
case-by-case
basis
by
staff.
C
A
C
J
I
think
what
you,
what
Patrick
said
that
you
know
you're,
given
the
program
itself
is
built
so
that
there
are
certain
built-in
features
of
it
like
you
get
14
per
what
I
call
perv
the
president
and
guest
parking
and
then
like
Linda
said.
Let's
say
you
have
a
you
know:
either
a
kid
coming
up
from
college
for
the
summer
and
they're
there
for
a
month,
I
think
there's.
There
should
be
some
like
online
submittal,
where
it
can
take
up
to
seven
days
for
approval
before
you
guess
gets
here.
J
So
it
puts
the
Otis
on
you
to
notify
us
the
notify
the
program
first
I'm
asking
for
an
exception
for
this
amount
of
time.
We
look
at
the
facts.
We
get
the
information
on
the
car
and
all
that
and
then
they
are
granted
that
within
seven
days
and
either
they're
granted
or
they're
denied
that
way
they
can
at
least
tell
the
guest.
J
Hey
I
have
a
room
for
you,
but
I
was
denied
parking,
so
we're
gonna
have
to
come
up
with
a
parking
issue,
one
way
or
another
outside
of
the
built-in
features
of
you
know
visiting
parking
because
there
are
going
to
be
those
exceptions
where
you
know
you
do
have
like
you
know,
and
I
said
you
have
a
guest
now
keep
in
mind.
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
everyone
knows
it.
Even
if
you're,
given
a
three-week
exemption
because,
let's
say
you're,
you
broke
your
leg
and
you
need
someone
to
come.
Take
care
of
you.
J
They
need
to
park
the
car
on
the
street
that
doesn't
give
you
the
ability
to
just
park.
Your
car
then
store
it
for
three
days.
R72-Hour
rule
based
on
a
California
vehicle
code
still
applies,
there's
nothing.
We
can
do
to
take
that
out.
So
that
of
that
alone
is
separated
from
this.
So
cars
will
still
move.
Cars
will
still
happen
and
keep
moving.
So
that
way
by
no
means
I,
don't
think
you
guys
should
build
a
parking
program
where
it's
a
storage
program
as
well,
either
because
they're
entitled
two
spots.
J
This
is
just
a
way
to
you,
know:
keep
vehicles
moving,
keep
them
fresh
and
that's
the
word
because
most
of
our
calls
are
cars
that
have
been
there
for
two
weeks.
Well,
you
know
a
parking
permit
should
not
give
you
that
that
ability
to
park
that
materials,
because
I
paid
my
50
or
70
for
it
for
a
year.
That's
completely
a
separate
issue,
so
I
I
don't
mean
to
digress
because
I
know
we've
gone
a
lot
of
time,
but
yeah
I
think
there
should
be
an
exception
where
they
send
in
a
submittal
and
say
hey.
J
This
is
what
I
need
it's
going
to
be
granted
or
not.
Those
are
my
thoughts
for
that.
Okay,
whether
it
be
for
sickness
one
for
summer
or
exigent
circumstances
that
can
be
granted
by
you
know
it
can
be
submitted
to
the
program
and
then
finally,
to
ask
for
approval
just
like
a
permit
for
like
an
encouragement
permit
and
we
shoot
it
back
and
say:
okay,
you've
been
given
that
permit.
D
I
have
I
mean
that's
that's
a
good
point
and
I
guess:
I
have
like
a
a
side,
question
or
or
comment.
So
if
you
know,
hypothetically
speaking,
if
we
do
get,
you
know
this,
we
contract
this
company
that
has
that
Karen
mentioned
at
the
beginning.
Maybe
that
would
be
a
good
source
that
would
sort
of
like,
like
you
know,
flag
out
those
cars
that
are
saying
72
more
than
72
hours.
Would
that
be
part
of
their
book
enforcement?
No.
J
So
here's
why
I
want
to
keep
the
seven
into
our
California
vehicle
separate
from
this
program
is
because,
like
Patrick
said
at
two
in
the
morning,
everyone
settled
in
and
they'll
find
parking
whether
you
give
two
permits
or
three
permits.
Everyone
finds
parking.
Now
there
are
streets
we
deal
with
but
are
not
as
harmonious
as
others,
and
you
don't
want
a
program
where
you're
not
going
to
shake
up
a
street
that
had
a
perfectly
good
plan
because
everyone's
got
their
agreed
kind
of
hey.
We
don't
keep
streets.
J
No,
you
know
we
don't
we
don't
use
Street
Storage
and
if
we
were
to
use
this
program
as
a
Tickler
say:
hey
this
streets
has
five
cars
that
are,
you
know,
stored
on
the
street.
Well,
we've
always
been
a
complaint-diven
city.
We
don't
want
to
lose
that
factor
just
because
we
adopt
a
automated
license
plate
reading
program-
and
you
know
the
it's
unfortunate
I
mean,
but
there
are
some
streets
that
we
never
get
a
call
on
because
they
agree.
J
B
J
F
E
B
Let
me
see
if
I
can
summarize,
this
guest
parking
program
would
be
for
a
permanent
guest
permits
for
a
total
of
14
days
in
a
one-year
period
permits
would
be
for
a
Mac
at
any
one
and
on
any
given
day
you
could
have
a
maximum
of
two
guests
permits,
so
you
couldn't
have
three
or
if
you're,
going
to
have
14
and
use
it
you're
holding.
Let
me
finish:
Taurus
and
I'll
come
to
you,
so
it
would
be
maximum
two
permits
on
it.
At
a
time.
Can.
H
B
F
B
D
C
B
J
J
Something,
oh
yeah,
California
vehicle
code.
Well,
it
doesn't
supersede
it
so
that
way,
because
you
know
when
you
when,
when
you
think
about
parking,
permit
program,
you're
automatically
kind
of
think
well,
then
that
gives
me
the
right
to
park
there
for
as
long
as
I
can
as
long
as
I
have
a
permit.
No,
it
doesn't
vehicle
code
still.
H
B
I
F
I
was
feeling
I
think
this
is
a
lot.
You
know
they're
an
easier
where
we're
at
now
with
the
permits
and
how
they
can
be
used
and
extenuating
circumstances
can
be
asked.
For
you
know,
I
can't
find
my
words
can
be
asked:
exceptions,
exceptions,
brain
dead,
yeah,
okay
and
Mario.
Congratulations
on
being
Garcia
Garcia.
F
H
E
Yeah
I
know
I
think
the
14
days
an
exception
with
potential
for
exceptions
and
I.
Think
it's
okay
to
give
it
in
seven
days
for
approval
of
the
exceptions,
if
that's
the
case
for
guest
parking,
I
think
it
kind
of
fits
with
what
the
goal
our
goals
are:
eliminating
the
Uber
Parkers
and
the
people
with
over
10
cars
parked
on
the
street
I
think
it's
kind
of
heads
towards
that
goal.
I
A
B
J
J
Does
an
online
system,
our
system,
you
can
call
in
by
the
time
they're
out
of
your
house.
You
can
definitely
call
in
the
system
or
put
it
in
the
system,
not
because
you're
going
by
license
plate
readers
that
should
automatically
populate
as
fast
as
they
can
get
it
in
so
okay,
I
think
you'll
be
safe
on
that
aspect.
Okay,.
E
D
B
They
would
get
14
guest
parking
days
per
year
and
that
could
be
one
permit
each
time
or
at
most
if
they
had
one
guest
overnight,
they
could
get
at
most
two
permits
on
the
same
day
at
any
one
given
time.
So,
if
they're
only
using
one
permit
at
a
time,
they
would
actually
get
14
days
if
they're
always
using
two
permits
at
a
time.
They
would
only
get
seven
days
because
a
permit
each
right.
B
B
B
B
D
A
F
H
F
F
B
Last
time
we
had
talked
about
it
would
be
in
a
in
the
overnight
period
and
we
really
weren't
sure
we
talked
about
different
start
time:
5
p.m
or
6
p.m.
Because
that's
when
people
are
coming
home
from
work,
another
thought
was
10
p.m
or
11
p.m.
Because
then,
that's
after
most
deaths
of
fund
of
departed
who
people
are
over
for
dinner
or
drinks
or
something
they've
kind
of
already
gone,
you
know,
and
so
it
isn't.
We
don't
need
to
worry
about
permits
until
later
at
night.
E
I
think
last
time,
last
time,
I
remember:
I
was
more
thinking
of
five
and
six,
but
the
more
I
think
about
it.
I
think
10
p.m.
Start
time
would
be
a
little
bit
better
just
because
of
what
you
said
or
what
kind
of
just
what
we
were
talking
about
before,
where
it
allows
for
dinner
guests
and
we're
really
thinking
about
the
overnight
parking.
E
F
Devil's
Advocate
the
commute
seems
to
be
an
all-day
thing
these
days
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
people
coming
home
early
have
some
ownership,
emotional
ownership
or
whatever
of
the
street
parking
depending
on
their
schedule.
If
you
can
get
out
there
on
the
freeway
at
2
30
and
it's
already
getting
Bumper
to
Bumper
three
o'clock,
four
o'clock,
it's
worse,
so
I'm
just
wondering
if
there's
if
it
makes
sense
to
or
how
we
can
make
this
work
for
people
I
realize
not
everyone's
coming
home
at
the
same
time.
D
I'm
thinking
five,
you
know
because
a
lot
of
people
that
work
come
back
and
they
want
to
find
a
parking
in
front
of
their
house
and
also,
if
you're,
looking
if
you're
thinking
about
you
know,
more
senior
citizens
is
going
to
be
uncomfortable.
You
know
if
somebody's
parked
in
front
of
a
house
has
to
go
park
far
and
then
and
then
come
back
and
park
in
front
of
the
house
after
you
know
this
time
period
gets
into
effect,
so
I
think
you
know
just
to
accommodate.
D
A
H
I
guess
because
I
keep
thinking
back
depends
what
the
issue
we're
trying
to
solve
is
and
if
it's
sort
of
the
overnight
parking,
the
massing
of
cars,
I,
yeah,
I,
guess
the
for
me.
That's
what
the
pain
points
were,
which
is
why
I
think
the
overnight
parking
is
but
then
again
the
cost
is
the
opposite
side,
which
is
not
a
factor
anymore,
and
so,
if
cost
is
not
a
factor,
then
yeah
I
last
time,
I
think
I
was
less
all
right.
There's
one
big
one!
H
This
time,
I
do
feel
more
strongly
that
the
evening
is
sort
of
the
pain
point.
So
I
would
lean
toward
a
later
start
point.
Five
does
seem
really
early
for
me
in
terms
of
enforcement
and
guests
and
everything
and
then
hassle
having
to
register
everyone,
but
especially
if
it's
a
two-hour
window,
then
again
that
all
that
discussion
again,
that's
where
I
kind
of
come
back
to
you.
B
B
B
B
D
D
D
If
they
are
in
terms
of
oh,
you
know
you
could
park
anywhere
and
then
then
you
could
leave
a
10
and
then
after
10
is
going
to
get
enforced.
So
next
thing
you
know
a
lot
of
the
folks
here.
You
know
the
guesses
are
going
to
be
parking
in
front
of
the
houses
and
they
know
that
after
standing
when
they
move
it
and
then
the
actually
residents
you're
gonna
have
to
go,
get
their
vehicle
and
bring
them
back
in
front
of
the
houses
and
and
and
I
know.
D
That's
why
I
was
anticipating
that,
with
the
rules
of
the
game
being
more
clear,
people
are
going
to
feel
entitled
to
part.
You
know
pretty
much
anywhere
and
say:
hey
I'm,
just
following
the
rules
right
and
then
after
pen
you
could
you
know,
then
the
parking
program
permit
is
going
to
be
enforced,
but
for
now
it's
not
so
I
could
park
in
front
of
your
house.
So
that's
what
I'm
intensity.
I
A
D
B
D
Well,
because
you
know
in
any
particular
block
you're
going
to
have
people
that
have
lived
here
for
a
long
time
and
then
you're
going
to
have
some
houses
that
they
have
in
and
out
renters
and
those
renters
usually
are
the
ones
that
are
more.
You
know,
especially
active
so
they're
going
to
have
visitors
and
and
that's
what
happens
a
lot
of
the
times
and
right
now
the
way
it
is.
You
know
it's
just
like
a
coat
of
I.
D
Don't
know
you
can
call
it
resident
or
Street
photo
well
dealing
with
parking,
and
then
you
talk
to
the
you
know.
So
it
takes
a
little
bit
for
them
to
learn
the
to
get
on
on
board
with
the
learning
curve
in
terms
of
parking
and
then
they
they
sort
of
get
the
picture,
and
then
they
tell
their
guests
to
go
park
at
the
streets
where
they
have
most
bus
parts
right,
because
so
that's
from
the
Gateway
you're
saying
you
know
hey.
D
F
F
There's
it's
just
catches,
catch
can
and
I
think
a
a
section
for
guest
parking
is
confusing
and
adds
a
lot
more
to
the
mix
than
we
want
to
deal
with
right
now
and
it'll
pretty
much
be
the
same.
It's
just
we're
eliminating
I
mean
parking
with
or
without
a
permit
Now
versus
when
we
get
them
it'll
pretty
much
be
the
same.
It's
just
get
eliminating
some
of
the
abuse
that
is
taking
place
with
the
street
I.
Don't
really
think
we
need
to
add
any
more
to
it.
At
this
point,
yeah.
G
Linda
Linda
Tomas
here
I
also
agree
with
that
and
I.
Also,
just
frankly,
like
you
said
it
all
comes
down
to
the
I
mean,
even
if
it
is
part
of
a
culture,
you
can't
tell
it's
someone
that
slept
through
my
spot.
You
know
it's
just
that's
just
of
course
I'd
be
nice,
but
that's
just
not
how
it
works.
So.
F
G
F
You
I
mean
I,
understand
Christian
what
exactly
they're
saying,
and
there
is
a
culture
on
every
street
of
where
that's
where
she
parks
and
that's
where
he
parks-
and
you
know
you
might
even
get
yelled
at
for
parking
there.
But
technically
it's
legal,
so
I
think
we
should
stick
with
what
we've
got
so
far.
B
B
B
D
B
I
C
B
B
D
B
F
D
But
also
I
mean
for
the
business
for
the
business.
If
you
have
a
business
vehicle
that
you
want
to
park
in
front
of
your
you
know,
business
and
sometimes,
if
you're
going
to
work
late,
doesn't
have
to
be
an
overnighter,
so
I
think
they
they
might
need
to.
We
probably
need
to
think
about
how
to
get
them
with
some
sort
of
more
or
less
the
same
criteria
that
we're
using
or
household
you
know
where
they
could
buy
parking
permit
and
stuff.
B
B
I
D
F
B
B
I
B
F
F
B
B
D
F
D
B
B
G
Oh
yeah
I
have
one
Patrick
and
everyone
else.
We've
mentioned,
like
probably
like
three
consecutive
months
now
about
this
project
for
Crocker,
Trail
I
think
it
was
first
the
first
time
like
we're
preparing
it.
The
second
is,
we
just
sent
it
and
now
we
so
we
sent
it,
and
we
got
word
of
approval
for
this
project.
So
so,
basically
long
story
short
just
good
news.
They
received
all
our
documents,
all
our
plans,
our
specifications
for
the
project
and
they
thought
it
was
thought
it
was
good.
G
C
Probably
advertising
in
the
winter
so
we're
ready
to
start
right
after
the
end
of
the
rainy
season.
Oh
good,
we've
also
got
on
and
you
guys
are
probably
the
first
to
hear
about
it
because
we
just
found
out
this
afternoon.
We've
also
got
on
the
council's
agenda.
Just
an
update
on
all
the
grants
that
we
got.
You
guys
should
be
familiar
except
a
couple.
People
maybe
missed
last
meeting
we
I
can't
even
name
all
of
them.
C
I
have
to
open
the
agenda
report,
but
a
grant
to
improve
shuttle
stops
in
Crocker
Park.
We
also
applied
for
a
grant
from
the
Transportation
Authority.
You
know
when,
when
you
guys
vote
for
these
these
extra
sales
taxes
or
or
Transportation
related
funding,
you
know
they
get
distributed
back
to
the
cities
and
we've
done
really
well,
and
maybe
Tomas
is
our
lucky
charm,
because
he's
we've
he's
applied,
he's
done
the
you
know
the
grunt
work
and
gotten
us
a
couple.
C
So
we
we
got
one
funded
to
Larry,
to
Santa
Clara
walkway,
to
finish
that
and
design
money
for
the
second
piece,
Santa
Clara
down
to
Alvarado
and
for
the
walkway
from
San
Francisco
street.
At
the
whatever
end,
South
End
of
the
park
old
County,
where
the
bus
stop
is
so
thanks
that
you
guys
have
prioritized
in
the
past
few
years
and
and
I
guess,
I'm,
making
that
presentation
to
council
and
I'm
going
to
mention
that
the
letters
of
support
from
the
community
and
the
Committees
and
the
POA
and
all
of
that
helped
us
with
that.
B
C
And
I
might
have
mentioned
before
I
think
on
the
at
the
state
level.
They're
looking
at
the
end
of
February
is
going
to
be
the
end
of
all
remote
meetings.
I,
don't
have
a
lot
more
information,
I
I
think
we
might
be
able
to
do
hybrid,
but
we'll
have
more
updates
in
January
and
February,
but
in
March
there
will
be
at
least
the
option
to
be
in
person
in
the
community
meeting,
room
and
I'll
know
more
as
we
get
closer.
C
I
A
C
Us
the
ability
to
treat
it
maybe
and
I'm,
not
sure
it's
a
state.
You
know
they
suspended
kind
of
the
brown
act
requirement
to
meet
in
person
and
did
this
this
modification
where
people
could
call
into
a
meeting
and
at
some
point
we
knew
it
it
kind
of
had
to
end,
but
if
a
hybrid
would
mean
that
you
can
still
be
remote
and
the
public
could
come
in
person
to
the
meeting
place
and
be
also
on
the
zoom.
You
know
if.
F
I
F
B
I'm
sure
they'll
allow
hybrid
meetings
to
continue
for
sure
and
there's
a
there's,
a
large
enough
and
I
think
yeah.
The
population
that
needs
to
be
protected
is
is
now
clearly
understood,
right
and
I.
Think
I
think
they'll
probably
continue
to
allow
that
part
of
the
population
to
protect,
to
be
protected
and
I.
Think
that's
I'm.
Sure
hybrid
minions
will
probably
continue.
B
H
Yeah,
so
we
had
one
meeting
of
the
I
guess:
it's
the
Sierra
Point
subcommittee
for
the
open
space
and
parks
for
that
development
of
the
the
area
by
the
marina,
and
so
just
to
give
you
a
sense.
It
was
a
walk
through
the
site
with
the
Consultants
who
are
leading
the
project
and
the
first
phase
of
sort
of
the
research
phase
which
they
had
completed.
H
There
was
one
meeting
prior
to
this
that
I
did
not
attend,
or
maybe
two
meetings
where
they
sort
of
set
the
scope
for
the
project,
and
this
time
they
came
back
with
a
packet
which
is
available
on
the
website.
You
know
with
the
agenda
and
everything,
but
it
sort
of
came
in
with
you
know
some
description
of
the
geography
of
the
area,
some
of
the
ongoing
projects,
those
are
ongoing
developments
that
are,
you,
know,
happening
and
will
happen
soon,
and
the
whole
scope
is
sort
of
a
50
and
100
year
plan.
H
So
I
guess
the
idea
is
to
have
like
a
long-term
plan,
a
long-term
Division,
and
then
this
could
be
a
phased
approach.
It's
still
really
early
in
the
process.
At
this
point
there
was
some
suggestions
of
sort
of
their.
You
know,
they're,
the
next
I
guess
deliverable
will
be
the
the
committee
will
or
the
Consultants
will
come
back
with
a
a
couple
design
suggestions.
So
in
the
last
meeting
they
presented
a
few
sort
of
big
picture
ideas
of
zones.
H
If
you
will
so
sort
of
a
play
zone
or
a
you
know,
one
idea
was
a
beach
or
a
waterfront,
Zone
and
sort
of
different
regions,
but
nothing
gets
set
and
so
sort
of
how
to
think
about
the
whole
area
and
sort
of
what
the
requirements
of
parking
might
be
and
for
sort
of
the
community
for
access
to
that
area.
So
all
that
is
being
considered
still
in
the
next.
Like
I
said.
H
The
next
thing
will
be
sort
of
proposals
of
just
general
ideas
of
what
might
be
included
in
that
area,
and
this
is
all
based
on
surveys
that
have
gone
out
to
the
community
as
well.
I
think
they're,
taking
sort
of
all
the
surveys
in
sort
of
we'll
come
back
with
a
few
suggestions
of
what
could
be
there
based
on
the
feedback
and
then
from
there
will
be
sort
of
another
round
of
feedback.
H
You
know
and
sort
of
iterations
if
you
will,
but
this
was
again
a
walk
through
the
site
and
then
we
sort
of
sat
through
looked
through
this
master
plan.
They
suggested
the
big
consideration
is
the
Water
Rising,
obviously,
and
sort
of
what
that
means,
and
you
know
there
was
one
idea
or
a
couple
suggestions
of:
do
you
want
to
make
it?
You
know
sort
of
a
public
park
with
a
more
art
design.
H
H
Not
sure
about
that
yeah
yeah
I
didn't
get
a
sense
of
that
exact
timeline.
I
know
the
next
deliverable
will
be
sort
of
like
I,
said
the
the
first
initial
sketches
of
what
could
be
there.
But
then
there
is
sort
of
gonna
be
an
Outreach
phase
again
and
sort
of
more
additional.
You
know
so
I
think
it'll
be
quite
a
long
process.
So,
but
I
can
follow
up
on
that.
Yeah.
I
D
B
D
H
H
H
These
are
gonna
projections,
and
so
they're
are
certain
structures
there
that
are
currently
there,
like
the
the
Harbor
House
and
the
yacht
club
and
those
that
are
sort
of
maybe
in
the
danger
zone,
and
so
and
the
consideration
is
sort
of
what
to
do
with
those
structures
in
terms
of
or
more
like,
the
sheds
there
or
the
bathrooms
long
term.
And
then
you
know
whether
you
have
a
Promenade
there.
H
The
option
is
for
retaining
all
sort
of
structure,
but
of
course
you
know
depends
how
far
to
build
that,
because
water
will
get
around.
So
those
are
all
sort
of
I
think
part
of
that
sort
of
developed
further
upstream
and
it's
all
sort
of
in
the
scope
and
projections
and
all
that,
so
they
are
aware
very
much
of
sort
of
the
projected
water
rises
and
I
do
encourage
you
check
the
packet
out.
That
was
very
informative.
H
For
me,
I
was
not
aware
of
sort
of
King
ties
and
where
water
already
comes
to
and
so
sort
of,
if
you're
familiar
with
the
area
of
the
lower
part,
I
thought
that
does
tend
to
flood
already,
so
that's
sort
of
in
the
danger
zone
and
so
sort
of
the
bathroom
is
there
they're
at
a
high
enough
elevation,
but
there's
also
considerations
for,
for
example,
the
marina
docks
currently
are
not
up
to
code
it.
So
any
in
terms
of
the
angle
for
for
accessibility
and
so
any
sort
of
Renovations.
H
H
H
H
How
do
you
connect
and
that's
also
part
of
I-
think
the
grand
plan
and
just
sort
of
different
phases
of
that
yeah,
but
that
was
sort
of
one
I
think
there
are
also
new
buildings
going
up
there,
I
guess
a
hotel,
that's
the
plan
for
the
area,
that's
sort
of
very
early
phases
as
well,
so
I
think
that'll
all
depend
on.
You
know
I
think
a
lot
of
commercial
area
there
that
sort
of
still
open
and
not
yet
rented
out
so
yeah,
definitely
all
considerations
there.