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https://www.brisbaneca.org/bc-streetssafety/page/complete-streets-safety-committee-meeting-53
Topic: Complete Streets Safety Committee Meeting
Time: February 1, 2023, 6:30 PM Pacific Time (US and Canada)
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F
If
the
matter
you
are
interested
in
is
not
on
the
community's
agenda,
but
is
a
matter
that
is
within
the
committee's
subject
matter
jurisdiction
you
may
address
it
under
public
comment,
remote
public
comments,
meetings,
meeting
participants
are
encouraged
to
submit
public
comments
in
writing
in
advance
of
the
meeting.
The
following
email
will
be
monitored
during
the
meeting
and
public
comments
received
will
be
read
into
the
record
during
oral
Communications
or
during
an
item
that
email
is.
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F
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B
F
I
would
like
to
move
item
C
review
of
the
brown
act
Provisions
to
be
the
first
item
under
all
business,
so
it
would
become
Item
B
item
C
would
be
a
discussion
continuing
on
the
parking
project
and
in
particular
to
the
committee
report
to
council
a
discussion
of
our
report
to
council.
That
would
be
item
c.
A
parking
report
to
council
an
item
D
would
be
review
and
discuss
2022
work
plan.
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E
E
Good
evening,
chair
and
committee
members,
my
name
is
Ingrid
Padilla,
the
city
clerk
for
the
city
of
Brisbane
I'm,
here
to
discuss
a
memo
that
you
received
from
our
legal
council
on
January
date
of
January
6th
on
the
conduct
of
of
meetings
through
February,
28,
2023
and
thereafter
new
Brown
act.
Provisions
allowing
remote
meeting
attendance.
E
E
E
So,
just
to
let
you
know,
the
legal
team
will
be
hosting
all
Hands-On
drug
on
Deck
training
for
in
in
April
for
committee
members,
Commissioners
and
council
members.
So
we
are
all
on
the
same
page.
Regarding
this
new
legislation
called
ab2449
Governor
Newsom
has
announced
that
he
tends
to
lift
the
proclaimed,
covid-19
Statewide
state
of
emergency
effect
of
February
28
2023,
and
the
city
therefore
intends
to
return
to
primarily
in-person
meetings
at
that
time.
E
So
from
now
through
February
28th,
beginning
with
meetings
on
or
after
January
12th
through
February
28th,
the
council,
its
commissions
and
committees
will
conduct
their
meetings
remotely
or
in
a
hybrid
fashion.
That
is
Council,
commission
and
committee
members
and
members
of
the
public
May
attend
the
meetings
either
remotely
or
in
person.
E
After
February
28th,
Council,
commission
and
committee
members
will
need
to
attend
meetings
in
person.
Members
of
the
public
May
attend
meetings,
either
in
person
or
remotely
so
long
as
there
is
City
technology
that
will
allow
members
of
the
public
to
observe
and
participate
in
the
meeting
in
essentially
the
same
fashion
as
if
they
were
in
person.
The
city
has
the
required
technology
so
upon
meeting
a
lot
of
community
members
and
Commissioners
had
some
questions
around.
What
would
this
really
look
like
after
February
28th?
So
we
came
up
with
kind
of
a
table.
E
E
We
just
thought
those
would
be
a
good
kind
of
visual
representation
of
our
current
understanding.
So
this
is
basically
a
table
and
frequently
asked
questions
about
ways.
Members
of
a
legislative
body
May
participate
in
meetings
after
February
28th
Okay.
So
one
option
is
like
we
said:
the
members
can
attend
the
meeting
in
person,
so
they
had
to
come
here:
City,
Hall,
50,
Park,
Place
and
then
for
staff.
You
know
meetings
are
able
to
continue
if
it
if
it
meets
quorum.
E
E
E
Please
let
staff
know
if
you
are
because
they
need
to
meet
Quorum
in
order
to
be
so.
Second,
the
next
two
are
Provisions
that
are
included
in
the
new
legislation.
The
first
one
is
called
the
just
cause
provision,
okay,
so
Provisions,
for
this
me
includes
child
care
or
caregiving
of
a
child,
parent
grandchild,
grandparent,
siblings,
spouse
or
domestic
partner,
a
contagious
illness,
a
need
related
to
physical
or
mental
disability
or
travel
on
business.
But
it's
business
of
the
local
agencies.
That's
not
for
work.
E
The
member
must
notify
the
legislative
body
at
the
earliest
opportunity
and
provide
a
general
description
of
one
or
more
of
the
circumstances.
Above
so
for
members,
email
notice
is
sufficient
if
sent
to
the
chair,
City
Clerk
and
the
staff
lead,
and
the
member
provides
a
general
description
of
one
or
more
of
the
circumstances,
above
so
for
staff.
They
must,
on
the
staff's
end,
okay
and
then
in
the
backups,
are
going
down
we're
just
going
to
go
through
what
the
members
are
so
with
this
email
yep.
E
E
So
if
you
have
a
subcommittee,
you
could
potentially
have
to
just
cause
Provisions
for
the
subcommittee
meetings
and
then
two
for
the
regular
body.
Okay.
So
what
does
this
mean
for
staff?
So
this
means
for
staff
that
they
still
have
to
have
quorum
for
like
they
still
have
to
have
quorum
for
people
for
in-person
people,
so
you'll
have
to
have
at
least
Quorum
for
people
attending
in
person
subcommittees,
depending
on
how
many
members
may
have
one
in
person
and
one
remote.
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E
So
we
added
those
Clauses,
then
the
the
staff
will
receive
email
notices
from
members
that
provides
a
general
description
of
one
of
one
or
more
of
the
circumstances
under
under.
You
know
that,
as
we
as
we
mentioned
earlier,
and
then
all
votes
must
be
conducted
by
roll
call,
okay
and
then
the
next
provision.
E
Is
called
using
the
emergency
provision,
so
there's
no
limit
to
this
provision,
but
there
must
be
a
true
emergency,
such
as
physical
or
Family
Medical
Emergency,
that
prevents
a
member
from
attending
a
meeting
in
person.
So
the
email
request
again
goes
to
the
chair,
the
city
clerk
and
the
staff
lead,
and
they
could
provide
a
general
description
of
the
emergency
which
need
not
be
more
than
20.
Words,
indeed
not
disclose
any
private,
personal
or
medical
information.
E
So
the
legislative
body
must
consider
the
request
at
the
earliest
possible
time,
and
so,
for
example,
there's
like
in
your
agenda.
Items
like
in
after
February
you'll
have
a
standing
item
under
consent.
That
says
approve
emergency
Provisions,
so
you
could
have
that
discussion
already
noticed
and
you
must
approve
the
request.
If
the
member
is
to
be
allowed
to
participate
remotely
and
so
again
with
staff
they
they
need
to
have
an
in-person
quorum
and
subcommittees.
They
have
to
have
an
in-person
majority
of
the
members
in
person
and
then
on
the
agenda.
E
Email
requests
from
the
member
that
provides
a
general
description
of
the
emergency
and
then
again
that
the
staff
members
also
have
to
conduct
all
votes
by
roll
call
and
then
the
last
ways
listen.
Can
we
ask
you
at
the
end,
because
there's
also
frequently
asked
questions
at
the
end
of
the
document
and
then
another
way
for
a
member
to
participate
is
by
attending
a
meeting
through
teleconferencing,
and
this
is
this
is
a
very
old
school
kind
of
provision
from
the
brown
act.
E
So
this
means
that
you
could
only
attend
via
audio,
so
in
Zoom
you'll,
be
in
audio,
like
you'll
call
in
or
you'll
call
in
or
you'll
be
in
Zoom.
But
you
cannot
have
video
because
it's
only
by
teleconferencing,
so
the
brown
act
allows
a
member
to
attend
a
meeting
by
teleconference.
If
the
number
complies
with
a
certain
statutory
requirements,
the
teleconference
location
is
accessible
to
the
public
and
the
location
is
noted
on
the
agenda.
So
the
staff
members
have
to
know
prior
to
posting
the
agenda.
E
E
So
there's
like
a
definition
of
the
legislative,
you
know
how
a
legislative
body
is
defined
and
under
the
brand
act
it
is
defined
to
include
the
governing
body
of
a
local
agency
com.
Any
commission
committee
board
or
other
body
of
the
local
agency,
whether
permanent
or
temporary,
decision
making
or
advisory
that
is
created
by
a
formal
action
of
a
legislative
body.
This
includes
standing
subcommittee
meetings,
but
not
ad
hoc
subcommittee
meetings.
E
The
second
other
main
questions
that
popped
up
was
what
happens
if
there
are
technical
difficulties
during
your
legislative
body
meetings.
So
as
long
as
there's
interactive
audio
is
maintained,
for
example,
even
when
the
live
stream
is
down
or
the
cable
channel
is
down,
the
meeting
May
continue
and
the
legislative
body
may
vote
on
that
item.
But
if
there's
no
more,
if
the
zoom
is
no
longer
working,
if
there
is
no
longer
interactive,
video
and
audio
the
legislative
body
may
not
vote
on
an
item.
E
Okay
and
then
the
other
question
is
what
is
what,
if
the
legislative
body
has
to
need
to
do
a
site
visit
a
location
not
at
the
community
meeting
room
when
meetings
are
held
at
an
outdoor
location,
the
body
must
first
meet
at
its
regular
meeting
place
and
then
proceed
to
the
outdoor
location,
so,
for
example,
for
open
space.
They
have
like
meetings
sometimes
outside,
to
look
at
different
habitats.
E
So
you'll
start
your
meeting
here
and
then
you
could
also
then
notice
or
stop
the
meeting
and
then
go
on
to
your
outdoor
location
as
a
practical
matter,
a
member
or
a
member
of
the
public
could
not
attend
that
remotely.
So
accordingly,
the
agendas
for
those
meetings
should
be
clear
that
the
meeting
the
meetings
will
not
be
conducted
in
a
hybrid
fashion.
So,
there's
a
different
way
of
noticing
that
meeting
the
other
one
that
came
up
is
for
teleconferencing.
E
Do
I
really
need
to
post
the
agenda
on
the
front
door
or
hotel
room
door
or
cooler
at
the
beach
where
I'm
taking
the
conference
call.
The
legislation
has
never
been
willing,
as
a
body,
to
change
this
brown
act,
even
though
it
seems
Antiquated
or
to
ask
for
a
narrow
interpretation
by
the
fppc
or
the
courts.
E
E
Are
we
expected
to
share
personal
health
information,
and
the
answer
is
no,
when
a
commissioner
cannot
attend,
but
has
a
valid
medical
reason
that
allows
them
to
participate
remotely.
The
person
must
provide
a
general
explanation
of
their
medical
reason
for
not
being
able
to
attend
in
person
as
to
be
limited
to
20
words
and
should
not
include
any
personal
medical
information
protected
under
state
law.
E
So,
for
example,
an
acceptable
explanation,
provided
they
are
true
when
given
would
be
I
am
ill,
and
my
doctor
has
advised
me
not
to
leave
the
house
until
I
am
better
or
I
had
a
medical
procedure
and
I'm
not
able
to
travel
at
the
moment.
Explanations
do
not
have
to
disclose
your
actual
medical
condition
or
your
specific
treatment,
for
example.
E
F
D
E
Typically,
peop
members
provide
or
council
members
provide
the
location
where
they
will
be
taking
the
meeting,
so
it
could
be
the
hotel
room
like
we
mentioned
here.
Apparently
there
was
somebody
that
did
that
did
it
on
the
cooler
at
the
beach
where
they
were
going,
but
the
you
should
let
Steph
know
ahead
of
time
and
then
they
will
post
the
location
of
where
you'll
be
taking
it
in
there,
then
the
person
has
to
the
Committee
Member
has
to
post
the
notice,
also
on
their
on
their
doorway
or
whatever
or
the
cooler
wherever
you'll
be.
D
B
D
E
Video
Zoom,
yeah,
yeah
I
think
you
could
use
those
your
video
on
your
phone
if
you're
doing
the
just
cause
or
the
emergency.
So
you
could
participate
by
Zoom
right
with
your
phone.
But
if
you're
going
to
use
your
the,
if
you're
going
to
use
the
teleconferencing,
then
you
just
have
to
turn
off
the
video
on
your
phone
and
you
could
just
be
on
your
be
on
the
zoom
on
your
phone.
But
no
video.
I
F
E
I'm,
not
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
so.
As
you
know,
if
the
emergency
is
happening
elsewhere,
then
you
could
participate
within
that
location,
but
you
have
to
let
but
again
the
only
time
where
you
have
to
kind
of
let
staff
know
particularly
where
you'll
be
at
will
be
for
the
teleconferencing
provision.
B
E
E
And
again,
this
is
our
current
understanding.
So
once
things
get
enacted
and
the
legal
team
sees
how
it's
like
being
rolled
out
in
other
cities,
then
we'll
have
that
training
in
April
and
I
hope
to
get
that
to
you
as
soon
as
possible
the
date,
and
then
we
could
all
be
on
the
same
page
of
our
current
understanding
of
the
law.
E
D
E
Yeah,
well,
the
the
provisions
are
new
because
I
guess
they.
They
know
that
the
technology
can
be
there
for
emerging.
You
know
in
case
of
emergencies
and
the
just
cause
provisions.
So
you
know
when
I
spoke
to
open
space,
they
were
like
what
you
know.
How
can
we
advocate
if
we
want
this
law
changed?
Also,
you
know
or
add
new
Provisions
to
the
brown
act.
So
hopefully
we'll
we'll
find
out
more
information
about
that.
F
C
F
F
F
I
A
I
guess
I
guess:
in
my
opinion,
it
was
sort
of
about
I
mean
like
I
said:
I
wanted
to
have.
The
community
goals
are
a
little
bit
broad,
so
none
of
them
are
very
specific,
but
I
chose
Community
Building,
just
because
I
felt
I,
don't
know
it's
a
it's
a
big
thing
for
Central
Brisbane.
It's
going
to
require
a
lot
of
people,
kind
of
maybe
sharing
opinions
and
maybe
trying
to
work
things
out
and
get
along.
So
no
I
mean
I
agree
with
your
interpretation.
It's
not
the
most
specific
thing.
A
It
might
be
a
little
bit
more
loose,
but
I
just
felt
that
because
it's
going
to
be
such
a
big
change-
and
maybe
some
maybe
for
some
people
difficult
that
we
can
kind
of
with
this
new
implementation,
where
you
can
work
something
out
and
as
a
as
a
community,
be
more
open
to
change
going
forward.
But
I
I
agree
with
you.
You
know
it's
a
bit
loose.
F
D
A
D
Organization
or
more,
it
just
needs
to
have
an
utterly
fashion
just,
and
this
would
help
with
the
scarcity.
So
if
we,
you
know,
if
we
mention
something
in
that
in
those
lines,
my
improve
it,
that's
not
too
much
to
us
to
staff,
but
I
mean
it
reads.
Well,
it
just
adds
like
another
layer
to
you
know
to
say:
okay,
so
you
know,
do
you
have
any
scarcity
problem,
but
we
also
bring
in
organization
or
order
in
areas
that
they
don't
have
a
scarcity.
F
H
A
F
F
I
guess
my
question
is,
you
know:
there's
we
have
never
taken
a
vote
or
taken
a
position
as
a
committee
as
to
whether
we
feel
there
should
be
a
parking
permit
program
or
not.
We
have
taken
the
charge
that
or
the
direct
the
request.
The
council
has
given
us
to
design
a
parking
program,
but
we've
never
addressed
the
pro
decision.
I
C
C
I
The
majority
of
the
committee
wanted
to
go
forward
with
parking
permits,
Christian
I,
don't
remember.
If
you
were
here
or
not,
okay,
it
might
have
been
when
James
was
chair
and
I
was
not
in
favor
of
a
parking
program
at
all.
I
felt
like
it
was
more
legislation
in
our
lives,
more
control,
but
because
the
committee
is
a
majority
wanted
to
take.
The
sun
is
a
parking
and
we're
in
favor
of
parking.
B
D
Yeah
yeah,
I
I
think
you
know
that's
a
very
good
point
and
and
I
also
remember
Pat
you
you
in
doing
other
meetings.
You
talk
a
little
bit
about
this,
just
to
make
sure
that
that
what
we're
doing
is
we're
learning
about
the
other
cities
and
we're
learning
about
Brisbane
well
and
then,
based
on
on
that
very
objectively
we're
just
saying
this:
is
you
know
what
other
cities
are
doing?
This
is
what
we
think
makes
sense
for
for
Brisbane,
but
I'm
not
endorsing
it.
D
We
were
asked
by
the
city
council
for
us
to
to
do
this.
I
mean
we
had
a
whole
agenda.
They
were
the
ones
that
told
those
forget
about
that
agenda.
This
is
what
I
want
you
guys
to
do
so
right,
I
think
we
need
to
make
that
distinction
that
we
collected
all
the
data
analyzed
it
according
you
know
to
to
us
that
we
live
in
Brisbane
and
other
people
around
and
so
forth,
and
we
make
those
recommendations,
but
we're
not
endorsing
it.
That's
my
opinion.
D
B
F
B
I
jump
into
is
in
that,
when
I
sent
this
I
sent
this
to
you
guys
and
I
said
we're
asked
to
keep
these
reports
to
two
pages,
so
there
is
going
to
be
a
verbal
report
by
the
committee
I
mean
by
the
staff
and
I.
Don't
know
if
any
committee
members
are
there.
What
I've
seen
in
my
experience
with
the
council
is,
if
the
committee
is,
has
a
recommendation
through
staff
and
they're
there
the
council
will
say
does
this?
Does
Patrick
want
to
come
up
and
add
anything?
B
So
this
report
is
and
a
general
background-
that's
that's
somewhat
limited
and
I'm
I'm,
Pro,
Thomas
and
I
are
probably
going
to
say
that
here's
the
process-
you
know
we
looked
into
it.
We
did
this
public
relations
thing.
We
found
people
wanted
to
change.
We
mold
around
the
idea
of
a
permit
program.
We
brought
it
to
Council
in
April,
you
said:
go
develop
guidelines
like
that'll,
be
flushed
out
in
the
staff
report
in
the
verbal
staff
report.
Okay,
it'd
be
hard
to
put
the
whole
history
into
this
document.
F
Person
okay
background:
the
committee
often
reviews
requests
feedback
from
members
of
the
public.
One
of
the
most
common
requests
committee
receives
is
for
a
solution
to
the
parking
scarcity
throughout
Brisbane.
The
2021
survey,
implemented
by
the
by
cssc
and
staff,
found
that
around
70
percent
of
those
surveyed
wanted
the
city
to
take
measures
to
improve
street
parking
parking
permit
program
was
favored
either
strongly
or
somewhat
by
64
percent
of
residents.
F
At
the
April
7
2022
council
meeting
survey,
results
were
shared
and
the
committee
requested
feedback
from
Council.
As
a
result,
the
cssc
directed
their
focus
toward
was
dirt.
I
think
it
should
say
Okay
directed
their
focus
towards
having
a
recommendation
prepared
for
the
council
to
review
in
early
2023..
As
a
result,
I
think
cssc
was
directed
to
have
their
Focus
right.
Council
directed
us
right.
F
One
the
program
would
be
in
effect
throughout
Central
Brisbane,
except
for
private
roads
and
the
back
side
of
San
Bruno
Avenue,
for
which
there
is
for
which
no
street
parking
exists
to
each
household
address.
May
apply
for
and
receive
up
to,
two
permits
accessory
dwelling
units
may
be
issued
one
additional
permit
point:
three
guest
parking
should
be
included
in
the
program,
but
cssc
did
not
decide
upon
a
specific
recommendation
on
the
number
to
be
allowed.
B
I
F
F
The
program
will
not
be
enforced
on
national
holidays
and
and
I
had
to
read
that
two
or
three
times
to
really
understand
what
that
means
is
it
excludes
weekends
always
and
holidays,
always,
and
the
reason
it
doesn't
say
Friday
is
because
Friday
night
is
the
start
of
the
weekend,
so
just
I
had
to
wait
a
minute.
What
is
that
is
that,
okay,
with
everybody.
I
D
B
B
F
B
B
I
D
Yeah
I
mean
I'm
a
little
possible
about
that,
because
I
mean
one
of
the
reasons
to
have
a
parking
permit
is
to
be
product
protected
or
not
protected.
How
some
sort
of
you
know
air
protection
on
your
parking
and
if
you
open
it
up
for
weekenders
and
Jesus,
is
going
to
get
bombarded
so
and
then
you
know
just
gonna
you're
just
going
to
have
more
people
working
in
front
of
you
or.
D
D
A
I
D
Yeah
I
mean
what
the
I
think
you
know
we.
We
talked
a
little
bit
about
people
parking
here
and
taking
Uber
for
the
airport
and,
as
some
of
those
people
I
suspect
might
do
it
more
often
on
the
weekend
than
weekdays.
You
know,
and
that
was
one
problem
we
wanted
to
eradicate.
The
other
thing
is
you
know,
families
they
are
going
to
have
guests
coming
in.
So
it's
going
to
be
a
competing
Factor
having
guests
and
other
events.
D
A
I
mean
with
the
alternative
be
seven
days
a
week
then,
or
how
would
you
know
what's
what,
if
we
wouldn't
do
that
on
the
weekends,
when
what
would
we
do?
I'm,
just
just
I
mean
hypothetical
question,
but
you
know
like
we
like
we've
said
a
bunch
of
times.
This
will
never
be
the
perfect
program
and
we've
kind
of
been
always
like
people
are
going
to
get
away
with
it,
of
course,
but
that
was
just
I.
Think
the
LA
I
think
the
logic
made
sense
and
I'd
be
like
the
only
other
like.
F
A
big
part
of
this
is
the
cost,
so
staff
looked
into
the
cost
of
a
service
company.
If
it's
just
the
four
nights
a
week
that
can
be
covered
with
one
staff
person
where
it
may
be
a
rotating
person,
but
that's
one
staff
position
of
that
company.
If
we
have,
if
we
now
then
add
in
the
weekends
that
becomes
two
staff
people
or
one
and
a
half
staff
people,
which
means
the
cost
of
the
program,
go
up
significantly
and
possibly
put
it
into
a
realm
or
either
it
becomes
unaffordable
for
the
city
or
the.
F
D
Yeah
I
mean
that's,
that's
a
very
valid
valid
point
and
what
I'm
saying
is
two
things.
You
know
this
is
a
I'm
guessing
for
the
most
part
living
document.
I,
don't
think,
is
set
on
Stone.
You
know
you
have
it
could
change
so
we
could
just
see
how
that
plays
out.
But
as
a
consumer,
you
know
the
if
I'm
paying
for
a
parking
permit
and
then
there's
like
weekend
events
and
then
maybe
I
want
to
go
to
the
weekends
event,
but
I
can't
even
park
in
front
of
my
house.
I
D
Yeah
I
mean
you
know
we.
We
talked
a
little
bit
about
how
every
blog
so
to
speak.
You
know
it's
a
different
story,
a
different
struggle,
but
then
then,
within
the
same
block,
you're
going
to
have
you're
gonna
have
spaces
where
you
could
go
park.
So
what
I
do
now?
I
go
and
park
up
on
the
street
instead
of
parking
in
front
of
my
house
right
on
the
CrossFit.
D
C
H
I
G
My
car
but
I
think
my
my
opinion
on.
It
is
definitely
the
cost
of
when
we
were
talking
about
it,
because
just
adding
that
just
adding
that
extra
day,
I,
remember
I,
think
we're
talking
like
50
increase
or
100
increase
in
the
cost.
Just
because
you
have
to
hire
two
full-time
people
pretty
much
see
I
like
the
way
it
is.
F
F
H
That
be
fine.
Before
moving
on
to
the
fiscal
impact
we
scroll
up
a
little
bit.
I
just
had
a
question
on
the
warning
at
the
top
of
this
section,
given
our
earlier
discussion
so
just
here,
because
it
says
we
came
in
agreement
to
recommend
the
implementation
of
a
parking
permit
program,
but
we
talked
earlier
that
we
didn't
actually
necessarily
agree
to
that.
H
F
B
F
D
D
Do
they
have
some
sort
of
notification
to
tell
the
people
that
are
inviting
to
the
event
areas
that
they
want
them
to
park,
because
I
could,
probably
you
know,
make
it
easier
for
the
people
coming
to
the
event
and
also
for
the
residents
just
to
be.
You
know
more
more
clear
like
like
you
could
park
in
this
areas
and,
oh,
that
that
type
of
guidance,
I.
B
Don't
think
there
is
anything
like
that
and
when
Outsiders
come
to
our
events,
which
I
think
concerts
in
the
park,
we
get
people
that
don't
live
in
town
I,
don't
know
about
other
I,
don't
know
about
the
farmers
market
really
in
particular,
but
maybe
I,
don't
know
how
we
would
communicate
with
those
people
ahead
of
time,
because
we
don't
know
who
they
are.
We're
not
getting.
Their
email
addresses
necessarily.
B
That
parking
is
available.
Remember
the
the
city
council
did
I,
don't
know
if
it
was
draft
or
finalized
in
agreement
with
the
Brisbane
in
to
use
the
parking
lot
across
the
street,
but
the
Brisbane
in
it
has
not
vacated
that
spot.
So
that
was
in
response
to
not
enough
parking
downtown
for
certain
situations
or
certain
times
of
day
or
events.
So
I,
don't
I,
don't
want
to
speak
for
them.
D
D
B
B
You
know
on
the
committee
and
where
are
we
going
to
put
these
cars
and
you
know
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
that
we
can
direct
people
to
private
property
on
Crocker
Park,
even
though
it's
empty
unless
specific
arrangements
are
made
with
each
business
and
it's
there's
a
scarcity
issue.
That's
what
we're
you
know
this.
This
program
is
ideally
people
that
have
too
many
cars
that
don't
need
to
use
all
of
them.
That's
kind
of
the
goal:
you're
not
using
the
car.
B
If
you
know,
if
somebody
has
the
kid
that
comes
home
from
college
and
they
need
the
car
we're
going
to
try
to
accommodate
that
right,
that
those
cars
go
away
and
that
we
don't
get
cars
that
buy
this
permit,
we
don't
get
outside
people
leaving
their
cars
here
and
going
somewhere
else.
So
hopefully
we
will
improve
the
parking
scarcity
issue
just
for
this
program,
but
I
don't
know
if
it's
a
simple
task
to
say:
everyone
that's
coming
to
a
concert
in
the
park
on
a
Sunday
or
Friday
night.
B
I
I
People
stop
do
their
business
and
go
and
the
times
that
I've
gone
to
that
I
drive
because
I
live
way
up
on
the
hill
and
there's
always
a
place
to
park
and
there's
always
cars
pulling
out
and
pulling
in.
But
it's
it's
short-lived
and
it's
a
short
period
of
time
that
they're
there
I
don't
think
it's
a
huge
impact.
F
F
F
F
F
F
D
Yeah
I
mean
we,
we
talked
about
that
in
and
one
of
the
reasons
I
think
we
were.
You
know
we
struggled
with
that.
One
was
because
they
are
residents
is
a
mixed
use
area
and
then
technically
or
at
least
illegally,
if
we
exclude
them
and
they're
arrested
and
I,
don't
know
what
that
will
lead
to
so
that
that's
why
I
think
the
same.
The
thinking
was,
let's
put
them
in,
but
the
other
question
that
came
up
or
or
comment
that
came
up
was
a
lot
of
the
other
cities.
D
I
C
F
B
I
didn't
check
whether
we're
going
to
need
to
have
an
ordinance
to
have
this
in
place,
but
you
know
we'll
look
into
that.
I
think
we
could
you
guys,
okay
with
just
saying
that,
verbally
in
the
staff
report,
that
I
mean
I
think
so
some
of
the
things
that
we'll
talk
about
are
yeah
the
the
cases
where
an
exception
is
reasonable
will
be
cons.
You
know
we're
not
going
to
and.
B
Go
ahead,
I
was
trying
to
characterize
how
the
flexibility
will
work
and
that
we
and
I
think
a
little
bit
of
it.
You
know
Commander
Garcia
was
at
the
meeting
and
he
wants
to
be
present
when
we
bring
this
item
to
council.
I.
Think
they'll
be
the
ones
reviewing
these
exceptions,
so
he
may
want
to
speak
to
that.
Okay,.
F
As
a
preamble
to
all
of
this,
it's
a
very
complex
program,
complex
issue
and
I.
Think
that
should
be
in
the
document
in
some
sort
of
verbiage,
I
mean
look
at
how
even
five
of
us
have
oftentimes
five
different
opinions,
and
some
of
it
is
just
subtleties
on.
We
may
be
agreeing,
but
there
are
subtleties
to
differences,
different
subtleties
to
an
issue.
Sometimes
we
agree
in
major
ways
and
we're
going
to
roll
that
out
to
the
entire
city.
It's
a
it's
a
difficult.
F
B
B
I
B
Think
about
what
we're
asking
Council
to
do,
recommend
the
guidelines
or
give
us
different
feedback
if
they
don't
approve
of
what's
in
this
document,
if
they
don't
want
to
as
a
body.
So
it's
guidelines,
it's
not
an
exact
program,
spelled
out.
This
is
like
how
you
guys,
Envision
it
being
formed
according
to
these
guidelines.
B
I
F
F
A
B
And
it's
the
last
paragraph:
no
one
pays
permit
fees
in
the
first
year
or
CSE
supports
phasing
in
costs.
They
also
recommend
initially
not
increasing
parking
fines,
but
they
do
support
increasing
the
fine
amount
over
time
to
improve
compliance.
So
I
guess
the
way
this
is
written.
It
says
no
fees
the
first
year
and
it
implies
that
there
would
be
fees
starting
the
second
year,
full
fees.
So
if
you
wish
to
recommend
if
you,
if
you
decided
at
prior
meetings,
to
recommend
something
different,
please
give
me
clarifying
language
Karen.
F
B
The
fee
for
the
permanent
per
the
company
there's
five
thousand
dollars
one
time
to
set
up
so
that
would
be
paid
out
of
the
Council
budget
in
this
formula
and
the
the
fee
by
the
consultant
is
twenty
dollars
for
a
permit,
but
that
was
I.
Don't
have
my
notes,
but
that
was
the
high
end.
That
was,
there
was
a
credit
card
fee.
If
you
pay
by
credit
card,
it
was
four
dollars
out
of
that.
B
If
you
I
think
there
were
mailing
permits
and
we're
going
to
do
license
plate
readings,
so
it
might
be
less,
but
that
cost,
if
they
don't,
if
somebody
doesn't
get
one
there
isn't
that
cost.
Now
the
parking
enforcement
will
stay
the
same,
no
matter
what
right.
So
we
also
the
the
total
between
the
parking
enforcement
and
did
I
write
this
in
here
and
the
consultant
that
supplies
the
permits
was
around
seventy
dollars.
B
F
B
Yeah
they'll
have
a
database
and
all
those
records
will
be
organized,
but
they'll
it'll
still
need
to
be.
There'll
still
need
to
be
some
staff
management
of
okay.
You
know
and
they're
you've
people
might
call
and
ask
questions.
People
might
have
a
ticket
that
they
want
to
contest.
All
of
that.
Okay.
D
You
know
in
other
areas
they
have
those
stickers,
so
they
know
if
you
have
a
sticker
or
not,
and
they
could
call
it
in.
But
in
this
case
there's
no
stickers
is
just
you
know
the
the
the
company
providing
this
service.
They
know
it
because
they
have
a
Plate
Reader,
so
we
just
rely
entirely
on
them
and
they
have
somebody
driving
on
the
streets
all
the
time
or
is
that
how
it
is.
B
Yeah
we
got
a
quote
to
have
someone,
you
know
just
I.
Imagine
it's
eight
hours
a
day,
but
it's
probably
eight
hours
with
the
lunch
break,
so
it's
it
can
probably
Encompass
all
of
our
the
hours
of
our
program
five
days
a
week,
but
yes,
they
have
someone
doing
that
enforcement.
That's
that's
an
interesting
thing.
We
hadn't
thought
about
is
that
you
can't
turn
in
your
neighbor
for
parking
longer
and
not
having
a
permit,
but
that
enforcement
will
be
out
there
during
the
times
that
we've
asked
for
it.
B
It's
not
just
one
pass
a
night,
yeah
I,
don't
know
if
there's
I
I
doubt
that
there's
a
way
to
look
up
whether
your
neighbor
has
a
permit
or
not.
That's
that's
a
good
question.
There's
another
piece
to
the
license:
plate
reading
and
I
I
might
not
be
able
to
characterize
it
exactly
right
because
we
heard
it
from
Commander
Garcia,
but
there's
a
a
law
and
I
think
it's
California
vehicle
code,
that's
either
being
challenged
or
being
considered.
Where
does
anybody
else
remember?
B
G
G
D
A
Well,
you
can
definitely
read
any
car
with
a
license
plate.
That's
not
a
problem.
They
made.
They
made
that
very
clear
that
it
doesn't
matter
if
these
cars
are
close
together.
If
visibility
is
a
messed
up,
that
they're
very
much
going
to
be
able
to
read
the
enforcers
are
I
thought
you
were
speaking
from
a
perspective
of
oh
I'm,
going
to
call
and
tell
on
this
person
and
I
thought.
That's
why
you
wanted
a
permit,
but
as
far
as
actually
reading
the
permits
and
enforcing
it
properly
shouldn't
be
a
problem
with
these
automatic
ones.
A
B
H
It
might
be
I,
remember,
Commander,
Garcia,
mentioning
that
there's
a
three-hour
or
the
three-day
Rule
and
that's
a
separate
rule,
72
hours
right,
and
so
even
if
a
car
is
parked
72
hours,
a
parking
permit
if
they
have
a
permit.
That
would
not
pick
that
car
up.
So
you
could
still
call
in
the
car
and
say
hey
that
car
is
there
for
three
days
and
that's
a
separate
Enforcement
issue
that
this
permit
program
would
not
deal
with,
even
though,
because
that
car
might
have
a
permit
and
it
just
doesn't
move.
H
D
No
I
I
know
that
what
I'm
saying
is
it
if
the
company
could
give
the
option
of
giving
a
sticker
and
the
and
you
know
they
have
their
technology
to
do
the
to
read
the
license
plate
and
in
terms
of
having
the
public
way
in
I.
Don't
think
we
had
that
discussion,
but
you
know,
although
Central
Brisbane
is
small,
maybe
the
person
monitoring
it.
D
You
might
get
to
your
street
rather
late
or
you
could
probably
you
know,
call
it
in
or
find
out
or
you
know
get
some
sort
of
attention
that
somebody's
is.
You
know
it's
probably
parked
in
front
of
your
house
and
it
doesn't
have
a
permit,
but
you
don't
know
if
that
person
has
a
permit,
because
you
need
to
read
the
license
plate
and
the
general
public
or
they
don't
have
that
ability.
But
if
they
have
a
sticker
then
they
could
say
just
a
thought.
F
I
I,
don't
think
the
purpose
of
the
program
is
to
be
checking
on
each
other.
I
mean
to
be
honest,
you
know
our
neighbors
do
what
they
do
and
you
know
if
I
think.
If,
for
someone
has
a
concern
about
a
neighbor's
car
not
being
permitted,
they
could
just
call
that
one
in
to
the
police
department,
hey
I,
think
this
car
does.
Does
this
car
have
a
permit
rather
than
creating
a
whole
structure
around
what
might
be
of
just
a
few.
C
F
G
C
D
I
mean
in
the
in
the
city,
there
are,
you
know,
there's
cars
with
permits
and
then
that
signals
that
you
know
they
there's
there
need
to
be
there
and
because
so
not
having
a
sticker.
It's
it's
difficult
for
the
public
to
have
any
idea.
If
that
car,
in
fact
has
a
permit
or
not
so
we're
just
wondering
if
it
is
okay
to
to
have
if
the.
If
the
company
gives
both
options
but
but
I
mean,
if
it
doesn't,
that's,
that's
fine.
Do
we
need.
D
Permit
well
I,
think
I
personally
and
from
what
I
seen
on
on
the
city.
If
you
have
a
permit
and-
and
there
is
a
little
more
complicated
I
think
because
they
have
signs
where
they
have
like
different
different
zones
and
different
times
where
you
park
here
or
why
not,
but
as
a
city
you
know
as
a
so
so
from
in
the
in
the
street
and
then
I
see
a
car
parked
in
front
of
my
house
and
I,
never
seen
it.
D
A
Feel
I
feel
like
we
responded
a
few
times
that
the
intention
is
not
to
police
attention.
We
don't
want
to
do
that
that
we
would
like
to
avoid
doing
that
and
that
calling
it
in
won't
get
your
car
removed,
it'll
I'm,
leaving
the
car
that
will
get
you
to
take
we'll
get
them
their
ticket
and
that's
the
end
of
it.
It's
not
the
call
to
get
this
car
towed.
It's
just
it.
If
there's
cars
in
front
of
your
house,
it
sucks,
but
they
get
a
ticket
and
then
that's
pretty
much
how
it
goes.
I
Mad
that
you
also
don't
own
the
parking
in
front
of
your
house
as
long
as
it's
a
you
know,
a
curbed
area
and
comparing
our
parking
plan,
our
permit
plan
to
San
Francisco,
which
I
imagine
if
you
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
when
you
say
the
city
is,
is
that
what
you're
talking
about?
Yes?
Okay,
it's
apples
and
oranges!
You
just
cannot
do
the
same
thing
here
as
they
do
there
and
that's
why
I
think.
I
D
Thank
you,
I
mean
just
just
to
clarify
when
you
guys
are
saying
policing
each
other
I
mean
I,
don't
understand,
you
know
before
there
was
a
licensed
license,
plate
readers,
that's
what
people
did
and
if
and
if
this
company
has
that
option,
and
he
saw
in
some
of
the
public,
you
know
feel
that
that
will
help
them.
If
you
have,
you
know,
maybe
coming
from
a
long
trip,
and
you
have
somebody
right
in
front
of
your
house
and
you
have
no
idea
if
that
person
has
a
a
permit
or
not.
D
F
F
Why
don't
we
move
on
on
the
agenda,
given
the
time,
I
would
suggest
that
we
defer
item
D
looking
at
the
2022
work
plan,
unless
we
want
to
look
at
it,
just
real,
quick
here
to
refresh
our
memory,
but
without
discussion.
Since
we
haven't
finished
the
parking
program
yet
maybe
just
put
it
on
screen
real
quick.
What's
that
okay
yeah,
let's
totally
defer
it!
H
Did
everyone
Matt
I,
want
to
bring
up
there's
another
committee
or
there's
an
Outreach
meeting
regarding
the
Sierra
Point,
a
renovation
aspect
and
so
they'll
be
presenting
sort
of
the
three
ideas
that
they
mentioned
in
the
last
meeting
and
it'll
be
trying
to
find
the
details
right
now,
but
I
can
it
is
a
meeting
here
and
it's
happening
I
think
it
was
last
night
I
was
last
night.
Oh
sorry,
I
did
not
attend.
H
F
Is
there
any
disc
I
mean
I
assume
building
this
park
is
going
to
increase
traffic
coming
to
zero
point.
Has
there
been
any
discussion
on
need
to
accommodate
that,
and
you
know
that's
how
I
go
to
101
instead
of
going
down
Bayshore
but
I
just
find
out
just
a
horrible
drive
and
to
go
out
to
the
Marine.
H
I
Oh
yes,
and
all
of
the
new
buildings
are
going
to
have
tons
of
people
needing
a
place
to
park,
and
all
of
these
new
amenities
are
going
to
be
attracting
people
who
need
a
place
to
park
and
there's
a
limited
number
of
parking
places
out
there
right
now,
it's
going
to
become
major
congestion
and
we're
going
to
probably
have
some
issues
with
the
people
that
that
boat.
There
there's
also
the
yacht
club
that
requires
parking
and
the
harbor
Master's
office
and
whatever
else
is
out
there,
but
adding
so
much
to
it.
I
H
Sorry
with
the
right
parking
is
definitely
part
of
the
plan
there.
There
we
So
currently
there's
a
lot
of
parking
there
in
terms
of
parking
spaces.
Just
concrete
spaces
are
open
and
so
there's
a
reduction
of
overall
parking
from
that
perspective,
but
there
is
quite
a
lot
of
parking
plans
and,
as
well
as
with
the
buildings,
there's
a
hotel
and
the
parking
garages
there.
There
are
plans
to
let
you
know,
people
use
them
and
plans
for
sort
of
different
again.
This
is
really
early
in
the
process.
H
It
also
sort
of
proposals
of
what
could
be
said.
No
there's
like
a
beach,
a
sort
of
a
playland
area
proposal
and
they're
trying
to
see
what
people
would
want
in
an
area
for
food
trucks,
potentially
sort
of
you
know,
parks
that
sort
of
thing,
and
so
it's
part
of
the
Outreach
for
the
community
to
see
what
people
really
want
and.
I
As
you
know,
what
can
we
really
do
and
and
have
it
make
sense
and
function
properly,
because
there
is
so
much
commercial
out
there
and
it's
going
to
continue
to
grow
and
I,
don't
know
if
those
commercial
people
are
providing
parking
underground
structures
or
about
what
you're
doing
so.
There's
just
wanted
to
say.
D
D
It's
gonna
hit
us,
and
so
what
I'm
wondering
is,
if
you
have
like
a
counterpart
guy,
that
you
could
talk,
that
is
more
involved
in
the
scope
of
managing
or
has
more
understanding
on
traffic
or
parking
and
then,
from
my
also
perspective,
there
were
a
lot
of
talks
about
building
this
result.
It
was
almost
like
a
super
bike.
Highway
and
I.
Don't
know
you
know
where
that
stands
now.
H
Oh,
that
was
not
part
of
the
there's.
No
discussion
on
this
is
really
just
I
say.
The
parking
lot
way
on
the
edge
of
the
of
the
pier
is
nothing
to
do
with
any
of
the
buildings
any
roads.
There's
nothing
to
do
with
any
of
that
further
up,
so
the
highway
bike
Highway
was
not
mentioned
at
all
in
that
part
of
this
I
think
that's
part
of
the
city
plan,
maybe
or
it's
in
reference
to
that,
but
yeah.
It's
not
part
of
this
subcommittee
yeah.
A
It's
not
it's
an
idea
in
our
might
be
2017
master
plan,
but
yeah
it's
it's
one
idea.
We
have
there,
but
yeah
I,
wouldn't
imagine
it's
I,
don't
think
it's
in
this
like
there
is
a
saying
it's
not
in
the
discussion
with
what's
going
on
there,
but
that
was
something
that's
been
thrown
out
before
before
I
even
got
here,
but
so
I
know
what
you're
referring
to.
But
it
doesn't
seem
like
it's
part
of
this
one.
I
I'd
like
to
add
Darius,
I
I,
think
as
a
representative
of
this
committee
and
what
I've
always
said
is
that
when
you
get
on
this
committee,
you
have
a
different
eye
for
things
that
are
happening
around
you
on
the
street
and
I
would
like
to
ask
you
if
you
will
take
that
perspective
with
you
to
your
next
meeting
and
just
as
you're
eyeing
the
area
take
kick
a
feel
about.
You
know.
Where
is
the
parking
what's
going
to
accommodate
everything?
That's
out
there
and
then
you
know,
maybe
we
can
help.
H
Mean
maybe
I
can
forward
or
have
the
sort
of
draft
agenda
or
whatever
for
last
meeting
forwarded
out
to
everyone
for
review?
Is
that
because
that's
public
documents,
part
of
the
from
that
meeting
and
that
sort
of
has
the
different
plans
what's
been
discussed
up
to
now
in
terms
including
the
parking
you
know,
considerations
and
then,
if
you
guys
have
additional
feedback,
I
can
bring
back
that'd
be
great
yeah
yeah
I
can
I
guess,
that's
probably
for
it.
First
to
you
guys
or
yeah.
B
B
But
I
wanted
to
say
we.
This
is
something
we
could
do
at
complete
streets
and
we
did
it
recently
at
osec.
Is
we
had
a
planning
staff
person
come
and
talk
to
the
committee
about
the
process
for
development
and
environmental
review
of
a
development
and
it's
when
a
new
building
is
going
in
or
a
house?
The
Planning
Commission
has
a
role.
The
planning
staff
has
a
role.
B
The
council
has
a
role
and
I
don't
want
to.
You
know:
I'm,
not
planning
staff,
so
I
don't
want
to
say
that
I
know
everything
about
how
it
works,
but
there
are
definitely
or
there's
an
ordinance
and
there's
codes
about
parking.
That's
required
for
any
development,
so
you
know
I
think
the
example
of
live
aboards
out
of
the
marina,
maybe
doesn't
fall
within
that
code.
B
But
for
you,
as
a
body
to
officially
review
development
applications,
Council
has
to
say
we
want
that
to
be
a
part
because
there's
already
a
body,
that's
the
Planning
Commission,
that's
responsible
to
review
certain
aspects.
You
know
it's
all
in
the
law
of
a
city
and
persiqua
of
the
state.
So
I
don't
know
if
we're,
if
that's
kind
of
what
you're
you're
getting
out
with
developments
or
you're
thinking
more
about
just
activities
and
public
spaces.
You
know
it's
kind
of
a
different
animal
than
a
development.
It.
I
D
Carrot
so
I
mean
some
Scopes.
They
do
overlap
right,
like
the
the
Planning
Commission
might
have
a
little
bit
of
stuff
that
we
might
need
to
get
involved
and
the
earlier
the
better
or
like-
and
you
know
and
I
did
conflict
the
issues
a
little
bit.
I
know
that's
the
marina
but
I
think
at
least
in
my
mind.
It's
been
behind
my
mind,
the
whole
Baylands
and
what
they
want
to
do
with
the
balances.
D
You
know
they
want
to
connect
as
much
that
as
possible,
because
once
it's
done
it's
done
right
and
so
to
bring
to
try
to
harmonize
that
huge
project.
So
I
was
a
little
confused
about
the
Baylands
and
the
marina,
but
they
might
be
I,
don't
know
if
they're
talking
to
each
other
connecting
to
each
other.
But
at
one
point
you
know
there
was
a
presentation,
a
little
bit
of
presentation
from
us
from
Justin
that
talked
about
how
they
were
going
to
do
this
highway.
D
But
oh
I
mean
this
really
nice
bike
row
by
the
by
101
and
the
other
thing
that
I.
You
know
that
one
Linda
mentioned
about
you
know
this
is
going
to
do
some
sort
of
impact.
It
reminded
me
of
the
Oyster
Point
and
that's
a
huge
development
to
and
next
thing
you
know,
all
those
things
are
going
to
bring
a
lot
of
traffic
and
et
cetera,
et
cetera.
So
you
just
it's
just
good
to
sort
of
know
where
things
are
coming
from
and
have
like,
not
only
in
in-depth
understanding
but
sort
of
know.
B
I
think
to
my
understanding,
the
council
does
want
the
Committees
because
it
it
fits
with.
You
know,
getting
public
comment,
I
think
to
review
some
of
the
aspects
of
the
Baylands
like
open
space
and
ecology
is
and-
and
there
was
a
council
action
a
number
of
years
ago,
because
the
development
has
been
you
know,
being
formed
or
trying
to
be
trying
to
be
defined
for
many
years.
B
As
you
all
know,
that
said
that
you
know,
osec
would
review
open
space
plans
and
I
can
find
that
I
actually
I'm,
not
sure
exactly
what
it
said
to
complete
streets,
but
I
think
the
idea
was
that
you
guys
would
look
at
traffic
circulation
related
to
the
Baylands.
Osec
would
look
at
open
space
that
that
would
be.
You
know
we
have
these
committees
with
the
public.
We
want
your
input
so
for
that
development,
I,
I
think
it
is
defined,
because
it's
so
big.
F
F
B
B
And
I
don't
want
to
go
too
far
on
a
tangent,
but
I
did
communicate
with
Mario
and
just
to
touch
back
on
the
license
plate
readers.
He
said:
there's
a
case
law,
there's
case
law,
that's
being
challenged
in
the
courts
about
marking
a
vehicle
touching
a
vehicle.
So
we
did
talk
right
so
with
a
license
plate
reader,
you
can
digitally,
say:
okay.
This
car
was
here
at
9,
30
we're
not
even
using
a
two
hour
window.
So
we
don't
have
that
issue.