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Time: January 4, 2023, 6:30 PM Pacific Time (US and Canada)
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MEETING SETUP AND INTRODUCTION 00:00:30
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A. Minutes of December 7, 2022
OLD BUSINESS 00:07:50
B. Investigation of Residential Parking Permit program for Central Brisbane
NEW BUSINESS 00:56:05
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CHAIR AND COMMITTEE MEMBER MATTERS 01:02:08
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B
All
right,
let's
get
on
to
the
big
elephant
old
business,
which
is
investigation
of
residential
residential
parking
permit
program
in
central
Brisbane.
Before
we
jump
into
this
screen,
I
thought
I'd
give
just
a
quick
rundown
verbal
rundown
of
what
we've
agreed
to
so
far.
What
we've
reached
consensus
on
and
the
items
that
we
have
not
and
there's
even
an
item
which
we
haven't
discussed
yet
Karen
brought
it
to
my
attention
that
we
had
not
covered
that.
So
we
and
it's
rather
important.
B
The
things
that
we've
reached
consensus
on
is
that
the
parking
permit
would
apply
to
his
brain
or
Old
Town.
It
would
not
include
the
ridge
or
nor
would
it
include
the
crocker
Industrial
Park,
Northern,
Marina
and
such
and
the
area
that
of
the
city
that
would
be
covered
by
a
parking
permit
program
would
be
treated
as
one
parking
Zone.
In
other
words,
a
permit
would
allow
a
person
a
permitted
car
to
park
anywhere
in
that
area
under
the
terms
of
the
permit
program.
B
The
second
thing
that
we
agree
to
is
that
there
would
be
issued
two
permits
per
household
and
a
household
is
a
residential
unit,
whether
it's
a
house,
an
apartment
or
a
condominium
with
that.
If
there
was
an
Adu
on
the
property,
a
city
approved
Adu.
That
would
get
one
additional
permit
for
the
for
the
use
of
the
Adu
hours
of
operation.
We
said
it
would
start
at
10,
pm
and
I
think
we
said
go
to
7
A.M,
but
I
I
lost
my
notes
on
them.
B
B
We
we
didn't
meet
that,
but
I
have
re
proposed
to
them,
and
the
council
accepted
that
we
would
be
coming
to
them
in
February,
so
I'm
hoping
we
can
reach
pretty
much
a
final
point
tonight
and
what
we
agree
on,
then
staff
can
kind
of
collate
all
of
that
together
and
we
can
review
it
again
at
our
February
meeting.
So
that's
kind
of
my
thought
process.
G
Okay,
I
think
that's
an
important
time
to
consider
because
there's
more
people
visiting
okay
holiday
parties,
that
kind
of
thing-
and
if
it
is
on
the
Old
Town
streets,
then
it's
gonna
be
a
real
problem
for
a
homeowner
to
get
15
or
20
or,
however,
many
visitor
parking
guest
person
permits.
So
I
think
we
should
have
a
period
of
time
during
the
holidays,
okay,
which
we
win
parking
permits.
B
C
E
Things
of
that
nature
that
we've
been
noticing
in
within
our
the
city
and
so
I
mean,
in
my
opinion,
I
think
either
seven
days
a
week
or
maybe
just
Sunday
off
Sunday
is
usually
a
day
where
there's
not
much
activity
going
on.
You
know
in
terms
of
in
general,
but
I'd
be
fine
with
either
seven
days
or
you
know
six
days
excluding
Sunday.
D
Do
you
think
something
else
I'm
also
coming
back
to
sort
of?
What
is
the
reason
why
we
want
to
have
this
program
and
so
I
guess
if
it
is
to
sort
of,
as
Gregory
pointed
out,
you
know
eliminate
the
or
help
with
the
there's
too
many
amount
of
spots
and
I
guess
it
probably
would
make
sense
to
have
it
all
the
time,
but
then,
of
course,
I
think
there's
a
trade-off
of
enforcement
and
sort
of
the
cost
of
that
I
guess.
D
D
G
I
I
agree
with
both
Gregory
and
Darius
I
I'm
thinking
it
might
be
wise
to
include
Saturday,
because
concerts
in
the
park
are
generally
on
Saturday
and
a
lot
of
the
other
community
functions
or
not
to
include
Saturday
a
lot
of
the
other
Community
Collections
that
the
citywide
garage
sale,
there's
a
bunch
of
things
that
happened
on
Saturday
again,
I,
don't
know
how
wise
that
is.
So
if
we
need
to
have
a
discussion
about
that,
but
I'll
go
either
way
just
depending
on
what
everybody,
what
our
consensus
is.
B
Dude
so
remember,
this
is
only
at
night
time
right,
so
we
were
starting
at
10
p.m.
Usually
concerts
in
the
park
are
done
by
then,
and
of
course,
garage
sale
is
daytime
right
and
and
there's
also
what
a
two-hour
grace
period
or
something
was
that
right.
Well,
I
guess
there
was
a
grace
period,
that's
right,
but
does
that?
Would
that
change
your
thinking
at
all,
Linda
as
to
Saturday
excluded
included
or.
G
I
think
it
should
be
excluded,
because
we
do
have
a
lot
of
people
coming
in
from
out
of
town.
For
these
events,
yeah
Dan
the
park,
there's
groups
of
people
that
come
in
for
the
the
runs,
the
different
ones.
So
you
know
I'm
just
kind
of
going
on
the
side
of
caution
here,
so
that
we
don't
have
a
big
problem
with
what's
happening
on
the
weekends
in
the
in.
D
E
E
Although
I
know
that's
something,
that's
kind
of
a
research-based
thing,
although
I
guess
from
my
experience
when
I
was
parking
on
the
street
a
lot,
it's
kind
of
changed
for
me
a
little
bit
now
so
that
now
I
gotta
Spa
in
my
garage,
but
you
know,
weekends
Saturday
in
the
Park.
The
concert
in
the
park
were
always
the
tough
ones
yeah
to
find
parking.
In
fact,
I
always
used
to
find
parking
more
often
on
the
weekdays,
I
would
say,
but
I'm
also.
You
know
right
by
visitation.
G
My
question
was
I
I.
Think
I
forgot
how
I
was
going
to
ask
you
this
question.
I
forgot.
The
question
was
because
I
was
listening,
I
lost,
my
train
of
thought
had
something
to
do
with
the
impact
of
parking,
weekdays
and
weekends
and
whether
it's
the
same
and
I
would
think
it
would
be
very
much
the
same
because
nights
and
weekends
are
kind
of
that's.
What
I
was
think.
Nights
and
weekends
are
pretty
much
the
same
as
far
as
need
to
park.
Yeah.
E
E
You've
mentioned
with
the
concert
in
the
park
and
also
not
to
mention
also
Farms,
Market
Days.
You
know
those
are
tougher
days,
although
honestly,
for
me,
I,
worse
comes
the
worst.
I
always
went
to
visitation,
it
was
okay,
you
know,
but
you
know
it's
hard
to
say:
I
guess
a
factor
could
be
just
the
cost
of
enforcement.
Is
it
more
expensive
to
to
do
on
the
weekends?
In
which
case
do
people
have
issues
more
on
the
weekends,
or
is
it
more
on
the
weekdays
that
they
have
the
problems?
G
B
Let
me,
let
me
ask
a
question:
I
would
think
on
the
The
Uber
parking
issue
that
would
center
around
weekends
and
especially
three
four
day
weekends.
Do
you
guys
see
that
and
and
Old
Town
occurring
in
terms
of
there's
more
parking,
starting
or
there's
less
parking
available
on
Friday
through
Monday
or
Friday?
You
know.
G
We
don't
have
any
bars
anymore.
We
have
a
lot
less
parking
subject
to
change,
but
things
like
the
farmers
market.
Most
of
the
time
I've
been
there.
I've
noticed
its
foot
traffic.
There's
it's
not
a
huge
problem,
parking
down
there
unless
Gregory
you've
seen
differently
you're
closer,
but
it
seems
to
me
a
lot
of
people
walk
down
and
bring
their
bags
and
walk
away
and
it's
a
it's
an
event
for
them.
G
E
G
D
D
So
then
you
know
there's
overflow,
but
that
would
be
day
use
anyways,
and
so,
if
ever
we
see
extra
parkings
from
that,
but
yeah
I
guess
in
our
neighborhood
we
I
think
people
kind
of
are,
you
know,
had
their
spawner
sort
of
not
many
cars
actually
on
the
streets
and
I'm,
not
sure
that
that
would
be
different
in
the
weekend
versus
weekday
yeah
I'm,
also
not
around
during
the
day.
I
do
leave
town
for
work,
but
my
wife
is
here
and
doesn't
have
issues
with
you
know.
We
do
keep
one
car
off
street,
though.
E
B
So
I
kind
of
think
I
mean
it
sounds
like
weekends
and
holidays
to
exclude
those
days
would
would
work
and
is
that
how
we
are
thinking
I,
I,
think
that
makes
logical
sense.
To
my
to
me.
It's
is
that
how
we're
thinking
then
exclude
so
it
would
be
Monday
through
Friday,
exclude
weekends
and
exclude
holidays.
Is
that
Karen.
C
And
I
wanted
to
add
what
I
recall
from
the
enforcement
was
that
if
and
I
don't
know,
if
there
are
other
contractors
out
there
that
do
it,
but
the
last
parking
that
that
does
work
in
this
area.
They
said
for
those
overnight
hours,
they
would
have
to
bring
someone
on
to
so
they
don't
do
other
communities
at
that
time.
So
it
would
be
the
I
think.
B
C
E
Well-
and
you
know
honestly,
I've
I've
had
some
family
members
who,
like
oh,
can
I
park
in
Brisbane
and
drive
over.
You
know
about
my
car
on
the
street
right
in
front
of
your
place,
but
you
know
honestly:
Uber
prices
have
gone
so
up
so
high
now
that
for
most
people
it's
actually
doesn't
make
sense
to
really
do
that
anymore.
You
know
it
makes
more
sense
for
them
just
to
park
at
the
airport,
yeah.
B
Yeah
or
take
part
across
or
something
yeah,
if
you're
coming
from
that,
far
away
or
Caltrain
and
then
Bart
yeah
so
are
we
are
we
pretty
much
I
guess
I'm,
just
looking
for
a
nod
or
something
that
say
Sunday
night
through
Friday
morning
would
work
for
our
hours.
Is
that
okay,
all
right
great?
Thank
you.
B
Okay.
The
next
item
which
we
haven't
agreed
on
a
decision
yet
is
whether
or
not
to
include
visitation
and
the
so
it
has
a
limit
already
during
the
daytime,
but
this
would
be
an
overnight
parking
limit
any
thoughts
on
that
last
time
we
were
very
mixed
on
this
yeah
in
terms
we
were
split,
so
Darius
go
ahead.
D
Yeah
I
guess
I
was
on
the
side
last
time
with
sort
of
excluding
visitation
or
sorry,
including
visitation
in
the
parking
Department
program,
so
that
it
would
be
equally
enforced
and
the
more
I
think
about
it.
I
still
feel
that
way.
I
guess
I
do
think
that
the
the
commercial
part
of
it
is
taking
care
of
itself,
and
there
is
a
two-hour
limit
during
the
day,
as
is
but
I
just
feel
like.
D
If
you
know,
if
that
one
strip
of
street
does
not
enforce
overnight,
but
the
block
over
is
that
sort
of
defeats
part
of
the
spirit
of
the
program
and
we're
almost
too
small
of
a
town
to
sort
of
have
different
zones
as
much
so
I
still
sort
of
feel
that
but
I
don't
know,
I
yeah
I
feel
a
little
less
strongly.
I
guess,
but
I
still
am
leaning
that
direction
to
include
it
in
the
perfect
programs
can
I
make
it
one
big
blanket
Zone.
E
E
I
think
that's
something
that
maybe
the
Civil
Council
will
look
at
at
that
point
and
say:
okay,
maybe
we
shouldn't
include
visitation
for
the
bars
or
you
know
if
they're
still
open
until
two
in
the
morning
type
of
thing,
but
I
think
for
purposes
of
as
it
being
in
such
a
small
town
and
and
for
the
area
that's
in
is
still
technically
a
small
area,
I
think
for
most
cities
like
San
Francisco.
This
may
be
one
parking,
Zone
Brisbane.
You
know
for
a
lot
of
them
for
a
lot
of
those
parts.
G
D
I
guess
the
one
car
I
do
often
see
there,
for
example
like
Mamma
Mia
car
I
know
they
have
their
car
up
front
or
a
couple
of
the
other
vendors
had
to
have
cars
and
they
move
them
around.
So
I,
don't
know
if
there's
something
different
than
maybe
we
consider
for
you
know
I,
don't
think,
there's
a
way
to
sort
of
pick
certain
storefronts
or
not,
but
I'm,
not
sure.
D
A
B
You
know
a
business
permit
makes
sense
and
for
Mamma
Mia's
I
imagine
they
have
different
drivers
on
different
days.
So
maybe,
instead
of
a
a
registered
license
plate,
it's
just
a
tag
or
something
they
put
in
the
window
or
something
like
that
for
the
business.
Okay,
so
I
think
I
think
we're
all
in
agreement
to
include
visitation
am
I
correct
in
that.
E
B
B
Funding
and
phasing
what
you
know:
we
don't
have
the
all
the
numbers
but
I,
I,
guess
and
I'm
not
looking
to
set
an
actual
number
here,
but
I
I
think
staff
will
come
up
with
data
that
will
help
a
recommendation
on
that
and
that's
a
detail
for
for
staff
to
to
hash
out
I
think
but
I.
My
thinking
is
to
set
the
general
direction
instead
in
the
in
terms
of
do
we
want
it
to
be
to
start
out
at
a
very
low
cost
and
then
over
the
following
year.
B
B
What
do
you
guys
think
in
terms
of
a
phase-in?
Do
we
you
know
first
year,
everybody
just
give
them
a
permit
and
charge
the
second
year.
Would
we
recommend
that
or
just
charge
from
day
one
or
and
and
it
conceptually
should
the
permits
and
the
fines
pay
for
the
program,
or
should
it
be
subsidized
from
City
General
revenues
in
some
regard?.
C
And
bear
in
mind
that
keep
in
mind
that
there
was
the
initial
setup
fee.
You
know
it's
not
that
much
initial
setup
fee
for
the
program
from
the
consultant
of
five
thousand
dollars.
That's
a
one
time
and
then
the
annual
permits
up
to
twenty
dollars,
depending
on,
if
you
pay
with
credit
card,
depending
on
whether
there's
actually
a
tag,
that's
sent
or
it's
digital
and
then
the
the
enforcement
being
more
than
that
and
then
staff
cost.
C
D
C
F
D
If
we
want
a
lot
of
adoption
early
on,
then
I
think
that
first
year
would
have
to
be.
You
know,
free,
pretty
much
or
very
low
cost
if
we
want
to
encourage
people
to
sort
of
switch
over
to
this
program,
not
just
be
like
hey
we're.
Trying
to
you
know,
get
more
money
because
I
could
see
it
coming
off
that
way
as
well.
D
If
you
just
come
in
with
a
permit
program
immediately,
so
that's
sort
of
where
I'm
standing
and
especially
if
it
comes
out
to
like
in
the
order
of
twenty
dollars
per
permit
or
something
like
that,
the
base
costs
the
first
year.
That
seems
pretty
reasonable,
plus,
of
course,
enforcement,
but
yeah.
So
that's
kind
of
where
I
stand
is
in
terms
of
getting
people
to
buy
over.
It
makes
sense
to
have
it
free,
I
guess,
for
the
first
year.
G
G
So
if
that
means
the
first
year,
you
don't
pay
for
it,
then
I
think
that's
something
that
we
need
to
consider
seriously
is,
as
our
permit
parking
cost
to
get
to
make
it
acceptable
and
then
make
sure
people
know
that
this
is
a
phase-in
period.
And.
If
there's
problems,
we
can
look
at
those
as
they
come
up.
E
F
F
B
Okay,
thank
you.
I
I
agree
with
that
and
I
I
just
did
some
quick
number
crunching
here.
If,
if
we
had
2
000
permits,
that's
an
additional
at
twenty
dollars,
a
permit,
that's
an
additional
forty
thousand
dollars,
so
the
annual
cost
goes
to
190,
and
if
we
had
2
000
cars,
then
or
two
thousand
permits
that
would
be
75
dollars
a
year
per
permit
operating
expense
of
the
outside
service.
B
B
Yes,
that's
right
and
I
I
agree.
It's
a
lot
to
accept
the
first.
It's
a
lot
to
accept
a
major
change
in
how
things
are
done
have
to
go,
get
a
permit
et
cetera,
Etc.
That
I
think
it
should
be
made
as
easy
as
possible
as
as
easy
as
acceptable
for
everyone
which
would
be
make
it
free.
The
first
year,
Linda
yeah.
G
I,
don't
as
I
recall,
some
of
the
instruction
to
us
was
don't
worry
about
yeah
some
of
this
stuff,
and
if
the
council
wanted
us
to
look
at
it,
I
don't
think
we
need
to
figure
out
how
to
pay
for
it
just
give
them
some
some
information
which
we
have
and
I'm
sure
they
didn't
expect
it
to
be
free,
and
that
would
be
my
my
guess.
Is
they
wouldn't
expect
it
to
be
free?
It's
going
to
cost
money
to
have
a
program
that
works
and
works.
G
B
B
B
So,
let's,
let's
come
to
guest
parking,
and
let
me
let
me
put
my
thoughts
on
guest
parking
out
there.
We
spent
all
of
last
meeting
talking
about
guest
parking
and
a
quarter
to
a
third
of
the
meeting
before
that.
Talking
about
guest
parking
and
guest
parking
is
an
issue
and
I
it's
important,
but
at
the
same
time
it's
not
the
whole
key
heart
of
the
whole
issue.
B
B
Guest
parking
is
kind
of
like
a
subset
of
all
of
that,
and
so
my
recommendation,
my
thought
is
that,
because
it
is
so
complex
and
we're
trying
to
codify
something
very
complex
is
maybe
just
tell
Council
here's
all
of
what
our
thoughts
were
in
terms
of
the
things
that
that
affect
guest
parking
and
why
both
ways
it's
an
Avenue
to
circumvent,
but
at
the
same
time
people
have
folks
coming
for
a
late
dinner
comes
for
the
weekend
come
for
a
week.
Someone
may
have
an
overnight
caregiver.
B
E
E
Think
each
one
of
them
had
a
valid
points
so
about
what
made
the
most
sense
I
do
like
the
thing
we
got
from
last
meeting,
which
is
the
idea
that
we
can
do
a
digital
like
online,
like
you
can
just
type
in
the
license
plate
number
whenever
you
have
a
guest
and
then
it
counts
the
number
of
days
you
know.
Let's
say
it
was
15
days
or
20
days
or
a
month
that
we
allow
guests
parking.
E
B
G
D
I
mean
I,
do
I
do
feel
like
we
did,
have
an
exhaustive
conversation
about
I'm,
not
sure,
we'll
sort
of
come
any
new
points
either.
I
do
still
feel
like
we,
you
know
yeah,
it's
complicated
issues
of
Google,
many
different
ways,
and
so
yeah
I
guess
I
I
I,
don't
mind
the
idea
of
just
sort
of
having
a
pros
and
cons.
You
know
a
multiple
sort
of
suggestions
like
that
that
we
can
sort
of
distill
down
yeah,
not
a
poster
that
I.
You
know
as
a
sort
of
where
we
leave
off
with
it.
B
C
A
F
F
B
C
C
C
B
B
The
the
70
thing
is
at
the
moment,
if
a
particular
block
wants
a
permit
on
their
block
or
a
couple
of
blocks,
they
need
to
get
70
percent
of
I
mean
this
is
brisbane's
municipal
code
right,
so
they
need
70
of
the
household
on
that
block
to
approve
putting
that
block
into
a
permit
Pro
its
own
permit
program.
That
would
just
be
that
block,
but
I
think
this
would
supersede
all
of
that
right.
Well,.
C
B
B
F
C
B
You
know
it's
kind
of
when
the
when
the
enforcement
vehicle
comes
around
to
that
street.
You
know
and
it
it's
going
to
be
interesting
if
they
start
at
the
same
place
every
night
and
make
the
same
pathway
through
the
city,
I
mean
it's
going
to
take
a
few
hours
to
get
through
town
right.
So
wherever
they
start,
the
program
starts
at
10
pm
wherever
they
end
up.
The
program
actually
started
at
midnight
or
whatever
right
that
last
house
on
the
last
Street
right.
E
E
F
F
G
B
E
Charging,
or
or
whatever
the
charging
of
the
permits
occurs
so
like.
Let's
say
the
council
decided
to
do
it
immediately,
which
is
up
to
them.
Of
course,
you
know
we're
getting
our
recommendations,
but
my
recommendation
would
be
if
they
did
charge
initially,
that
they
should
probably
increase
the
fines,
because
25
dollars,
a
lot
of
people
just
say,
screw
it
I'm
not
going
to
pay
a
hundred
dollars
a
year.
I'll
just
take
the
20
tickets
when
it
ends
up
randomly
noticing
my
car
yeah.
E
A
E
I
remember
when
I
used
to
park
at
Bart
for
a
long
time,
I
was
like
I
parked
there
a
couple
times.
You
know
not
paying
anyone.
Oh
wow
I
I,
no,
no
one,
you
know
I
didn't
get
a
ticket,
I,
guess
I'm,
fine
and
then
sure
enough.
You
know
two
months.
Online
I
finally
got
a
ticket
and
it
was
you
know:
60
bucks,
I'm,
like
oh
man.
If
I
had
just
paid
for
parking
every
single
day,
it
would
have
been
cheaper.
You
know.
B
Let's
add
that
in
fines
are
in
a
phase
in
keep
them
wherever
they
are
now
the
first
year
and
then
the
next
year,
whatever
city
council
felt,
was
appropriate
if
if
they
felt
it
was
appropriate,
I
mean
at
25,
that's
four
nights
of
parking
and
if
the
permit's,
a
hundred
you
park
Sunday
night
by
Thursday
morning,
you've
bought
yourself
a
permit
I
think
that's
a
pretty
punitive
level,
but
at
the
same
time
as
somebody
made
a
mistake
and
didn't
or
was
late
or
something,
it's
not
incredibly
onerous.
25.
B
Okay,
it's
25
bucks,
but
it's
not
the
end.
It's
not
like
a
hundred
dollar
fine.
You
know,
but
I
think
it
solves
the
potentially
solves
The
Car
Store
using
the
street
for
car
storage
problem,
because
people
are
doing
that
365
days
a
year
which
is
250
weeknights.
You
know
250
nights
of
enforcement,
so
that'd
get
expensive
real
fast.
D
D
This
is
linked
to
like
the
Brisbane
PD
in
some
sense
and
the
fact
that,
like,
if
you
just
are
you
know,
if
you
don't
pay
your
fee
for
like?
Is
there
some
sort
of
penalty
for
not
paying
your
parking
ticket?
Has
that
been
enforced
and
transitioned
over
to
like
the
police
or
something
or
how
does
that
kind
of
handled?
I
think
you
get
a
boot.
D
D
F
C
B
F
B
B
Right,
okay
and
then
we
should
not
discuss
it
between
each
other
right,
I
would
say:
yeah
I
mean
I,
I
know
it's
I
know
it's
a
quorum
level,
but
I
would
say
to
all
of
us
in
the
committee.
If
put
your
thoughts
down
on
the
document,
it
send
it
back
to
staff,
but
don't
talk
to
each
other,
even
just
one-on-one,
about
what
your
thoughts
are.
I
think
that
would
be
the
best
way
to
handle
it.
That's
the
safest
way,
I
think.
F
C
I
I
didn't
prepare
a
lot.
We've
been
doing
some
support
on
the
Storm.
There
are
some
any
route.
That's
under
the
Federal
Highway
System
a
federal
aid
route
could
be
a
an
arterial,
a
collector
road.
We
are
eligible
to
seek
funds
for
repairs,
so
we're
working
on
documenting
some
of
that.
That's
kind
of
been
the
the
present
order
of
business.
We
were
working
on
some
of
our
capital
projects
too,
during
the
I
saw.
Tomas
came
on
to
turn
his
video
on,
so
he
might
have
a
stop
update.
C
A
No
I
was
just
going
to
give
the
one
that
was
brand
new,
that
which
is
it's
for
San,
Benito
and
Alvarado
stairway
we
just
so
that's
been
slowly
moving
along,
but
as
of
Friday
Karen
and
I
visited
the
surveyor
in
the
field
and
just
you
know,
just
discuss
everything
moving
forward
and
he
actually
had
a
very
quick
turnaround
so
that
Alleyway
has
been
surveyed
which
was
really
essential
for
us
to
get
moving
forward,
because
you
know
we
need
an
exact
exact
dimensions.
We
need
the
exact
layout
of
that
land.
A
C
So
the
utility
engineer
is
looking
at
it's
the
water
line,
which
is
kind
of
redundant
but
provides
a
loop
instead
of
dead
ends,
and
they
don't
want
necessarily
to
see
a
concrete
stair
directly
over
a
60
year
old
water
line,
so
they're
trying
to
figure
out
whether
they
can
move
it
to
the
side
or
whether
they
might
replace
the
line
with
a
new
one
or
slip
line
it
or
what
the
plan
is
so
we've
gotta.
That's
why
we
wanted
to
get
some
more
survey.
C
Information
is
because
we
got
like
a
postage
stamp
to
fit
all
that
in
and
I
think
we
originally
were
hoping.
We
could
build
that
this
summer,
but
it
if
the
water
line
has
to
be
done.
First,
we
may
be
looking
at
the
next
construction
season,
so
we'll
keep
you
guys.
Posted
and
Tomas
and
I
are
probably
going
to
have
to
go
out
and
take
a
look
at
Crocker
Trail,
because
we
were
just
getting
ready
to
put
that
out
to
bid.
But
it's
been
really
damaged
by
the
water.
C
C
B
C
G
It's
really
sad
to
see
because
that's
a
favorite
Trail
to
easily
walk
up
and
sit
in
the
grasslands
and
enjoy
it.
I
was
there
about
two
weeks
before
the
storm
with
my
grandson,
because
he
really
wanted
to
see
a
coyote
and
so
I
said.
Well,
let's
go.
Let's
go
look
up
here
and
I
took
him
back
there
this
weekend
to
show
him
how
it
had
changed.
What
had
happened-
and
he
was
amazed
so
I
said-
remember
that
sign
it's
way
up
to
there
in
mud
now
and
he
was
just
wow.
He
was.
A
C
B
F
F
B
Have
to
say,
I
think
Bridge
bank
brisbane's
crew
has
done
a
tremendous
job.
Cleaning
up
the
city,
I
haven't
seen
everywhere
that
there
was
blood
flow
and
such
but
a
long
visit
along
Valley,
Drive
and
South
Hill,
and
all
of
that
and
I
still
see
them
out
there
today
clean
on
North,
Hill,
West,
Hill
Clinic,
you
know
checking
drains
and
everything
I
just
think.
They've
done
a
tremendous
job
and
I.
Compare
that
I
I
go
down
101
and
where
it
flooded,
they
still
haven't
cleaned
the
road.
B
F
D
I
just
wanted
to
bring
attention
to
the
committee
here.
I
have
another
meeting
for
the
Sierra
Point
Park,
whatever
we're
calling
I
forget
the
name
of
the
committee.
That's
this
Thursday!
The
agenda
is
online.
The
you
know
it's
gonna,
be
a
presentation
of
essentially
the
next
sort
of
phase,
which
is
going
to
be
three
different
ideas
on
how
to
potentially
sort
of
incorporate
different
aspects
and
sort
of
zones
as
they're
calling
it.
D
You
know
and
I
guess
the
ideas
I'll
present
three
different
ideas
and
then
you
can
sort
of
take
different
pieces
from
the
different
ideas
and
the
committee
will
discuss.
Sort
of
you
know
give
feedback,
maybe
some
back
and
forth
there.
So
in
the
next
meeting.
I
should
have
an
update
on
that
as
well.
But
you
know
the
agenda
is
online
and
I
can
pass
it
along
to
committee
to
send
out
if
anyone's
interested
as
well.
That's.
C
You
and
to
add
on
to
that
Rec
staff
had
asked
me
originally
if
I
wanted
to
staff
participate,
late
and
I
I
thought
it
was
kind
of
focused
on
Park
planning
and
I
said
well.
If
time
permits
and
I
didn't,
but
when
Darius
gave
his
last
update,
I
was
like
oh
there's
a
lot
of
circulation
and
a
lot
of
things
that
impact
this
committee.
So
I'm
going
to
sit
in
on
that
too,
and
you.
F
G
F
G
G
Yeah
I
did
I
was
wondering
if,
if
you
have
like
a
rough
draft
of
the
minutes,
just
to
remind
us
of
the
points
that
we
covered
in
the
meeting
so
that
we
could
be
thinking
about
them
prior
to
coming
and
not
trying
to
keep
it
all
in
my
head.
This
was
my
selfish
ask
because
I
start
to
think
about
stuff
and
then
I
tend
to
forget
what
were
the
finer
points
that
were
made
and
if
there
needs
to
be
something
added
to
that
or
changed,
because
this
is
kind
of
a
go.
G
F
C
By
law
it's
72
hours,
but
now
they
have
asked
that
they
get
it
Friday
for
a
meeting
the
next
Thursday,
but
that's
as
soon
as
on
the
council's
end.
You
know
certain
staff
members
are
preparing
drafts.
Other
staff
members
are
reviewing
those
drafts,
they're
getting
signed
by
department,
heads
and
by
the
city
manager,
and
the
mayor
is
reviewing
the
agenda.
So
is.
G
C
F
B
B
C
Tomas
just
asked
me
if
I
would
mention
which
I
think
I
did
last
month
and
we're
still
trying
to
get
some
clarification.
But
we
know
that
in
terms
of
meetings
that
the
governor
is
going
to
rescind
the
the
executive
order
about
the
brown
act
at
the
end
of
February
and
we
are
getting
because
Council
started
doing
hybrid
meetings
for
now
between
Thursday,
I
guess
and
the
end
of
February
I
think
we
will
be
switching
to
hybrid
meetings
so
that
the
public
has
the
option
to
come
in
or
join
a
meeting
remotely.
C
So
that's
going
to
mean
I,
I
believe
as
I
understand.
That
means
we'll
open
up
this
city
hall,
community
meeting
room
and
the
public
can
come
to
the
podium
and
have
a
zoom
window
from
the
podium,
so
committee
members
could
come
in.
Some
of
you
have
probably
never
met
in
person
right.
A
couple
of
you
are
newer.
B
C
Come
in
and
sit
on
the
dice
I'm
guessing
we're,
probably
not
going
to
get
a
lot
of
that,
but
I
believe
in
March
that
they
I
mean
I
didn't
want
to
out.
The
slogan
said
anything
to
Moss,
because
I'm
trying
to
understand
it
myself.
But
the
rules
that
I'm
seeing
that
apply
to
council
and
will
apply
to
the
Committees,
is
that
there
are
a
couple
of
exceptions
for
health
like
two
per
year
and
then
there
are
some
other
emergency
exceptions.
G
C
C
C
F
B
C
F
F
B
B
B
B
B
The
other
thing
now
that
we
are
finished
or
wrapping
up
this
project
I
think
next
month.
It
would
be
good
for
us
to
put
back
up
the
list
of
projects
that
we
had
before.
We
were
asked
to
do
this
project
and
so
mayor
Karen.
If
we
can
have
that
list
back
up
and
on
the
agenda,
then
talking
about
our
work
plan
for
the
coming
year.
F
B
Don't
expect
us
I
wouldn't
expect
us
to
make
decisions,
but
I
think
we
should
be
talking
about
it
and
I.
Imagine
our
Liaisons
will
have
some
input
potentially
to
what,
if
there's
something
they
want
us
working
on
as
well.
So
if
we
could
have
that
on
the
agenda
at
the
next
meeting
or
work
plan
for
the
coming
year
and
then
the
other
thing
we
should
do
next
meeting
is
we
should
elect
chair
and
vice
chair
and
I
would
like
to
say.
B
B
Well,
it
used
to
be
February,
I,
I,
think
and
then
and
then
I,
don't
I
think
when
I
came
on
it
was
in
March
and
then
I
took
I
had
to
take
over
right
in
the
middle
of
the
meetings.
I
think
it's
better.
We
used
to
do
it
in
February
and
I
think
we
should
have
a
proper
transition,
the
elections
in
February
and
then
the
new
leadership
takes
over
the
following
meeting
I
like
the
way
politicians
do
it
right,
you
get
elected
and
then
it's
a
later.
It's
you
know
it's.