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From YouTube: IDEA Committee Meeting 11-16-2022
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11/16 Agenda: https://www.brisbaneca.org/bc-idea/page/idea-committee-meeting-6
A
B
This
meeting
is
compliant
with
the
Ralph
m
brown
act
as
amended
by
California
Assembly
bill
number
361,
effective,
September,
16
2021,
providing
for
a
public
health
emergency
exception
to
the
standard
teleconference
rules
required
by
the
brown
act.
The
purpose
of
this
is
to
provide
a
safe
environment
for
the
public
staff
and
committee
members,
while
allowing
for
public
participation.
The
public
May
address
the
committee
members
using
exclusively
remote
public
comment
options.
The
committee
may
take
action
in
any
item
listed
in
the
agenda.
The
idea
community
meeting
will
be
an
exclusively
virtual
meeting.
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committee
meeting
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least
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C
A
Thank
you
so
much
first
off
for
sort
of
business
approval
agenda
can
I
get
a
first
and
second
to
approve
the
agenda
as
it
stands,.
A
A
All
right,
thank
you
now,
at
this
time,
is
there
a
member
of
the
public
wishing
you
to
make
a
public
comment.
A
So
much
all
right,
then:
let's
move
on
to
Old
business.
First
off
item
a
receive
a
report
of
the
internet
against
heat,
weak
staff
report.
Please.
G
Sure
I
can
provide
a
quick
overview
of
the
event
that
happened
on
Monday.
As
you
know,
we
had
a
youth,
poetry,
workshop
and
poetry
slam
at
the
library
from
three
to
five,
and
that
was
also
attended
by
one
of
our
Yak
members,
as
well
as
the
15
youth
from
the
community
came
out
just
after
3
15.
They
all
kind
of
swarmed
down
to
the
library
and
mayor
Mackin,
gave
some
introductory
words
reminding
them
of
just
the
importance
of
staying
visible.
G
If
people
are
like
talking
badly
or
bullying
or
hating
them
that
they
should
always
be
visible
and
not
feel
like
they
need
to
be
hidden
and
so
I
think
they
really
understood
and
were
nodding
as
she
was
talking,
and
there
was
a
poetry
Workshop,
then
that
was
conducted
by
two
members
of
lyrical
opposition,
so
Jen
Luna
and
Ashley
were
there
and
they
had
pronouns
of
kind
of
like
a
Mad
Libs
poem,
which
was
titled.
G
I
am
so
they
filled
in
the
blanks
of
just
I
am,
and
then
it
had
like,
where
you're
from
and
what's
like
elements
of
your
household,
and
they
had
a
good
time
going
through
that
with
some
assistance,
but
also
the
fun
part
was
being
able
to
see
them
perform.
Those
that
wanted
to
in
the
second
hour
got
up
and
Ingrid's
son
actually
led
the
pack
and
performed
his
poem
first
and
I'll
just
share
my
screen
really
quickly
to
show
some
pictures.
G
We
also
had
someone
from
the
county,
arts
and
culture
commission
attend,
and
she
had
heard
about
the
event
from
our
glass
or
city
manager's
weekly
update
that
we
shared
on
our
Facebook
page
and
she
heard
about
the
event
and
she
represents
District
Five,
which
Brisbane
is
included
in
so
she's
like
I.
Don't
really
know
too
much
about
Brisbane
I
saw
the
event
wanted
to
come
down,
and
she
had
some
buyers
do
that
she
wanted
to
share
about.
G
Just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
knew
about
that,
so
we're
going
to
publicize
that
in
this
week's
class
and
then
there's
a
poetry
out
loud
program
that
allows
youth
to
sign
up
and
they
can
be
coached
with
someone
and
paired
up
with
a
coach
and
work
on
public
speaking
and
poetry
writing
and
have
a
chance
to
compete
in
February
they're
going
to
do
a
competition
county-wide.
So
it's
nice
to
meet
her.
G
Her
name
is
Victoria,
and
that
was
one
of
her
first
events
in
Brisbane
and
she
thought
it
was
great.
She
stayed
the
whole
time
and,
as
you
can
see,
mayor
Mackin
is
sharing
some
introductory
words
and
then
here's
the
workshop.
The
workshop
leaders
Miss
Ashley
working
with
them,
and
this
is
like
the
room.
G
We
had
posters
that
were
set
out
in
the
back
you're,
not
against
hate
posts.
Brisbane
stands
United
against
hate
posters.
We
also
had
Brisbane
hats
that
came
in.
We
reordered
those
blue
Brisbane
hats,
and
so
we
had
24
to
give
out
at
the
event
and
they
all
went.
We
had
four
left
that
was
perfect
to
give
to
the
library
staff
or
just
helping
with
that
event
and
setting
up
the
room,
and
so
that's
our
Yak
member
Orion
and
some
of
the
boys.
G
They
also
had
someone
who
wasn't
a
youth
but
someone
from
an
adult
joined
and
he
performed
his
poem
too.
So
this
is
our
Instagram
that
you
can
go
and
hear
the
poems
red
and
the
library
earlier
today,
or
maybe
yesterday,
they
set
out
this
display.
I.
Think
the
idea
committee
had
said:
oh
it'd,
be
nice
to
have
just
some
books,
curated
and
a
little
display.
So
they
have
this
as
you
walk
into
the
right
near
their
circulation
desk
or
their
info
desk
Nicole.
G
One
of
the
Librarians
is
saying
that
she's
had
she's
waiting
for
her
picks
for
books
are
slowly
coming
in,
but
so
far
she
has
a
couple
out,
and
so
she'll
still
be
adding
to
it.
This
week
and.
G
Took
some
pictures
of
our
staff
officer,
Malone
and
Paul
from
our
Public
Works
crew,
with
the
poster
and
tomorrow
at
the
city
council
meeting
at
7
30
there's
going
to
be
a
proclamation
for
standing
against
hate,
so
I
think
that
would
be
I.
Think
Ingrid
also
has
someone
received
the
proclamation?
Maybe
it's
already
determined,
but.
G
G
And
it's
generally
just
right
after
the
meeting
starts
at
the
top
of
the
agenda,
but
yeah
that's
basically
the
week
and
I'm
sure
we're
going
to
continue
to
take
part
in
this
week
in
the
coming
years.
This
is
just
our
first
time,
so
we
still
have
posters
out
at
City
Hall.
G
If
anyone
wanted
to
grab
one
and
yeah,
we
also
shared
that
the
county
was
doing
an
event
today,
Facebook
live
actually
that
happened
at
five,
so
yeah
just
sharing
the
information,
but
the
main
event
was
on
Monday
with
the
the
poetry
slam,
so
I
really
think
lyrical
opposition
for
their
help
in
in
hosting
that
of
the
library.
G
Yeah
that
he
had
great
representation
there
with
Jen
Luna
and
actually.
H
A
Well,
I'm,
really
glad
that
you
guys
were
able
to
do
it
so
quickly.
You
know
that
it
was
a
very
last
minute
thing,
so
thank
you,
Seth
and
everyone
else
who
was
really
involved
in
it
and
I
think
this
would
be
a
great
thing
to
kind
of
such
for
the
future.
It's
that
way
we're
a
little
more
prepared.
We
kind.
D
A
For
entire
week,
so
maybe
next
year
we
could
have
multiple
events
spread
throughout
the
week
or
but
I'm
really
happy
that
yes,
we're
able
to
pull
it
off
so
quickly.
So
thank
you.
H
D
Yeah
I'd
like
to
second
that
as
well
so
sounds
like
a
great
event.
Unfortunately,
we've
I
was
hoping:
I
had
some
time
to
attend
at
least
part
of
it,
but
yeah
thanks
to
everyone,
especially
to
Carolina
and
to
Christian,
or
you
know,
taking
this
event
with
teacher
in
a
very
successful
event,
and
definitely,
and
also
from
the
idea,
standpoint
idea.
Committee
standpoint.
These
are
also
kind
of
you
know.
D
F
E
The
the
talk
that
she
did
before
the
before
we
started.
G
A
C
Thank
you.
This
is
really
great
to
see,
especially
you
know.
People
are
talking
about
this
topic,
not
trying
not
to
talk,
but
you
know,
and
then
also
people
are
kind
of
smiling
when
they're
talking
about
this
topic.
This
is
the
kind
of
sensitive
topic,
but
you
know
this.
This
is
kind
of
start
of
positive
movement
happening
in
Brisbane.
That's
what
I
really
happy
to
see
that
yeah.
Thank
you.
So
much.
A
So
Carolyn
I
did
have
one
question
about
the
library
books.
Are
there
multiple
copies
where
people
can
actually
take
them
out,
or
is
it
mostly
just
a
display.
G
Oh
yeah
definitely
and
it
can
be
checked
out,
and
she
probably
has
a
few
more
now
that
she
would
just
replace
it
if
it's
checked
out,
but
yeah
I
saw
that
what
she
had
was
yeah
something
for
adults,
something
for
kids,
so
yeah
I
mentioned.
That
would
be
great
to
have
that
the
idea
committee
would
would
like
to
see
something
that
was
not
just
about
the
kids
yeah.
G
Yeah
and
there's
people
took
stickers,
so
stuck
them
right
onto
their
water
bottles
at
the
event.
So
that
idea,
committee
I,
think
is
getting
more
known
in
the
community,
so
yeah.
H
A
Could
really
build
some
great
momentum
and
we
just
kind
of
have
to
keep
at
it
so
that
it
doesn't
become
an
afterthought
in
people's
mind
and
we
I
guess
something
to
me.
It's
weird.
We
should
definitely
talk
about.
What's
the
next
thing
that
we
should
do
that
way,
it's
still
fresh
in
everyone's
mind.
I
know
the
holidays
are
coming
up,
but
I
think
we
have
a
lot
of
great
things
planned
for
next
year.
C
G
G
I
know-
and
this
is
just
the
prime
time
for
Library
programming
since
it's
after
school
time-
and
there
was
three
adults
there-
I
mean
one
was
a
babysitter
for
one
of
the
kids,
but
she
actually
helped
to
share
his
poem.
He
was
a
little
shy,
so
she
shared
it
for
him.
So
at
least
his
words
were
be
able
to
be
heard,
but
yeah
about
three
adults,
I.
Think
the
Hat's,
where
I
draw.
H
G
Did
a
post
prior,
the
hats
came
in
that
day,
so
I
quickly,
just
put
the
flyer
or
the
poster
next
to
the
hat,
and
someone
who
came
one
of
the
adults
was
like.
Are
the
hats
for
sale,
no
they're.
H
F
A
In
the
water
bottle,
so
I
could
put
the
stickers
on
well
I
have
my
own
water
bottles.
A
All
business
the
stand
of
Agents,
flag
requests
and
that's
the
ongoing
issue
and
we
had
talked
about
it
in
our
sub
kidney
meetings,
so
step
report,
please.
J
You
know,
as
the
Supreme
Court
understood
it
through
the
Boston
case,
and
the
big
issue
in
the
Boston
case
is
that
as
long
as
it
is
government
speech
they,
you
know
you
can
do
even
it's
a
lot
easier
to
do
and
to
make
sure
that
you're
within
the
confines
of
what
you're
doing
we
talked
to
the
attorneys
today
and
just
a
little
bit
and
put
from
them
what
they
were
suggesting.
J
Is
that
what
you,
but
maybe
what
the
policy
or
the
procedure
should
be
for
the
flags
is
to
allow
the
city
manager
to
allow
flags
that
are
to
be
put
up
on
City
flagpoles
that
have
been
that
have
proclamations
that
the
city
council
have
approved
in
the
past
associated
with
them
and
I.
Think
that's
very
much
in
line
with
what
the
subcommittee
was
talking
about.
The
question
I
think
that
the
subcommittee
would
wanted
to
wrestle
with
a
little
bit
was
having
the
ability
for.
J
If
somebody
comes
in
with
a
request
for
a
flag
that
we
haven't
put
up
in
the
past,
how
would
we
go
about
putting
that
up
in
the
future
and
I
think
what
the
procedure
might
talk
about
is
having
the
subcommit
having
the
idea
committee
work
with
the
sit
with
with
the
resident
to
determine
you
know
if
there's
a
proclamation
that
can
be
done
on
behalf
of
that
group
and
then
that,
once
that
Proclamation
is
done,
the
city
manager
would
then
be
authorized
to
put
up
a
flag.
J
I
think
that
may
make
it
a
quicker
process
than
what
you
know
than
other
ways
would
do
it
by
how,
by
allowing
the
city
manager,
to
make
the
determination
on
a
daily
basis,
whether
or
not
there's
a
proclamation
that
he
can
point
to
to
say.
Yes,
this
flag
meets
that,
so
you
take
the
flag
that
is
being
discussed
tonight
about
stand
with
Asians.
You
know
we
do
have
a
proclamation
come
as
Caroline
said
coming
up
this
week
about
United
against
hate.
J
The
city
manager
would
be
say
that
that
you
know
that's
within
that
boundary
of
United
United
against
hate.
So
therefore
he
would
be
able
to
say
that,
yes,
if
we
have
a
flag,
that's
appropriate,
we
could
put
it
up
so
I
think
if
we,
if
you
know,
if
that's
something
acceptable
to
the
committee
staff,
can
work
on
drafting
that
kind
of
a
procedure
and
bring
it
back
to
the
committee
to
look
at.
J
Obviously,
the
biggest
concerns
from
the
attorneys
is
making
sure
that
it
is
something
that's
written
out.
That's
that
you
can
point
to
that.
Is
that
that's
what
makes
logical
sense?
The
other
aspect
that
the
subcommittee
talked
about
is
potentially
that,
when
the
park
at
zero
point
is
built
that
you
put
a
number
of
flags
that
are
there
to
create
something
that
might
be
considered
like
a
peace
park
or
something
to
that
effect.
J
Where
you
put
you
have
permanent
polls
where
you
can
have
Flags
fly
on
a
permanent
basis
and
not
only
a
limited
basis,
and
you
combine
that
with
potentially
a
piece
of
artwork
around
the
idea
of
peace
or
unity,
and
you
can
create
a
very
Serene
Monument
towards
the
idea
of
peace
and
unity
throughout
the
in
the
community
that
people
can
go
to
and
appreciate,
and
that
would
you
know
then
allow
the
three
flagpoles
in
the
city
park
to
be
used
for
the
United
States
flag,
the
state
of
California
flag,
and
then,
if
we
can,
you
know
put
if
we
can
agree
upon
one
a
Brisbane
flag.
J
So
I
think
that
would
be
the
long-term
process
on
the
short-term
basis
that
if
we
have
to
rotate
Flags,
you
know
we
would
do
that
based
on
probably
when
it's
most
appropriate
for
those
flags
to
be
flown
based
on
the
time
of
the
year.
As
you
know,
as
the
proclamations
are
are
done
or
as
soon
thereafter
as
we
possibly
can.
J
I
Thanks,
sir,
that
sounds
right
to
me:
I
think
my
only
question
or
sort
of
like
pokiness
in
that
is
for
the
city.
I
think
there
was
a
sense
of
like
the
idea
committee
is
not
uniquely
but
definitionally,
designed
to
like
have
a
sense
of
who,
like
whether
a
flag
would
meet
a
certain
need
or
purpose,
and
so,
for
instance,
to
say
United
against
hate
this.
I
You
know
this
fits
the
proclamation
of
United
against
hate
and
all
of
a
sudden
announced
the
city
manager,
who's,
saying
yes,
that
me
that
meets
the
like
criteria
or
intention
of
this
Proclamation.
Okay,
and
not
just.
I
I
J
J
You
know,
may
you
know,
depending
on
what
their
schedule
is,
delaying
it
out
beyond
the
point
where
it
made
sense
right
so
I
think
you
know,
you
know
having
it
be
reviewed
by
the
idea
committee
and
then
you
know
just
implemented
by
the
city
manager
as
opposed
to
having
to
go
through
an
entire
city.
Council
process
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
I.
H
D
Okay,
great
yeah,
so
no
so
let
me
start
our
Lord
again
yeah,
so
I
think
Stuart.
You
captured
it
very
well
the
discussion
that
we
had
and
I
think
this
sets
the
stage
really
nicely
and
in
addition
to
the
Council
that
you
received
as
well,
so
that
way
we
have
kind
of
a
two-point
validation.
D
D
So,
given
that
we
have
this
process
in
place,
I
think
you
know,
and
it's
great,
that
we
are
putting
this
policy
in
place
and
it
basically
we're
adhering
to
other
to
what
other
cities
have
done
and
categorizing
any
request
that
comes
in
and
the
city's
decision
to
accept
or
deny
the
request
is
going
to
be
essentially
government
speech.
So
I
think
that's
that
also
makes
it.
D
You
know
a
strategy,
that's
consistent
in
a
policy,
that's
consistent
with
other
cities
and
also
defensible,
and
the
what
I
would
also
suggest
is
that
we
have
some
sort
of
a
flowchart
given
that
there
are
these
kind
of
inputs
coming
in
and
to
help
not
only
the
staff,
but
maybe
when
there
are
members
of
the
public
who
might
want
to
know
what
is
the
process,
then
we
you
know,
maybe
we
could
have
a
flowchart,
because
there
are
multiple
inputs
and
you
know
multiple
drivers
towards
arriving
at
the
final
decision.
D
So
that
might
be
helpful.
You
know
to
create
some
sort
of
a
you
know,
quick
at
a
glance
overview
and
make
that
available
for
the
community,
or
you
know
to
the
staff
as
well
and
once
the
process
is,
you
know
fairly
well
understood
across
the
community.
Then
there
may
be
no
need
for
it,
but
in
the
initial
stages,
I
would
think
that
would
be
helpful.
J
D
Okay,
yeah
that
I
think
that'll
work,
yeah,
yeah
and
I
think
it's
also
a
good
idea
to
have
consider
the
flagpoles
in
the
Sierra
Point.
You
know
you
know
upcoming
zero
point
plan.
There
is
an
area
in
fact
which
is
south
of
the
current
yacht
club,
which
you
know
the
current
design
company
CNG
thinks
that
there
isn't
much.
That
can
be
done
there
because
it
is
at
a
very
low
level
and
in
fact
the
flag.
D
Paul
said
the
peace
Park
might
be
ideal
ideally
suited
for
that,
because
you
know
there's
nothing
that
you
can
build
over
there,
because
it's
given
that
it's
it's
at
a
very
low
level
and
there
is
a
risk
of
it
being
submerged
in
king
tide
and
there
is
also
kind
of
a
you
know.
The
whole
level
is
sinking
there.
You
know
every
few
years,
so
this
might
actually
be
the
peace
part
with
the
flagpoles
there.
Would
you
know
that's
definitely
going
to
be
a.
D
You
know,
I
think
that
that
can
be
considered
for
that
particular
area.
That
particular
patch
in
that.
Overall,
you
know
project.
J
Okay,
yeah,
unfortunately,
that
may
take,
as
you
know,
I
think
we've
talked
about
a
little
bit.
It
might
take
a
couple
of
years
to
make
that
come
to
fruition.
So
in
the
meantime
we
may
end
up
having
to
rotate
Flags
yeah
through
the
you
know,
the
two
that
we
currently
have,
depending
on
how
that
works,
so
I
mean
I,
think
you
know
and
they're
all
you
know
and
I
think
one
of
the
controversies
that
you'll
see
in
town
is
like.
J
A
J
I
think
from
a
design
perspective
I,
don't
the
policy
committee
didn't
get
into
that
I.
Think
one
of
the
you
know
I
think
the
city
attorneys
would
say
that
something
that
would
be
considered.
J
A
representative
of
the
group
that
you're
trying
to
commemorate
would
be
the
best
way
that
you
can
do
it
I
think
the
challenge
at
the
moment
for
United
Stand
United
with
with
Asians,
is
that
there's
no
real
group
flag
that
we
found
and
that's
why
I
think
the
reason
why
the
the
events
committee
worked
on
trying
to
design
something
that
would
make
sense
for
us
as
a
city
but
I
think
in
the
future.
J
We
would
try
and
find
flags
that
were
more
representative
of
the
ideas
that
were
being
presented
so
that
way,
no
one
was
questioning
why
you
know
why
this
flag
and
not
that
flag
kind
of
thing,
because
I
think
that's
that's
the
other
thing
you
know,
unfortunately,
I
think
if
the
you
know,
as
the
idea
committee
goes
through
it,
if
there's
two
or
three
flags
that
commemorate
the
same
type
of
an
idea,
you
might
have
different
people
saying
put
this
one
up
or
that
one
up
and
I
think
that
would
be.
A
A
Be
copyright
ramifications,
correct.
J
J
Our
Public
Works
director
very
much
wants
to
make
sure
that
whatever
Flags
we
we
fly
are
capable
of
withstanding
30
to
40
mile
an
hour
winds
that
we
get
in
town
and
they
don't
just
tatter,
because
I
think
from
a
practical
standpoint,
flags
that
begin
to
look
scattered
seem
more
disrespectful
for
people,
so
just
want
to
make
sure
that
flags
that
we
purchase
are
are
outdoor
Flags.
D
Okay
sounds
good
amen.
Did
you
have
any
inputs.
A
All
right,
yeah,
I,
think
in
the
events
subcommittee
we're
talking
about
possibly
just
we're
thinking
of
different
ways
to
gather
Outreach
from
the
community
on
flight
descendants
as
well
and
I.
Think
that
could
come
to
the
point
where
there
aren't
any
fights
that
are
very
representative
of
certain
proclamations.
F
A
G
Yeah,
so
on
that
subcommittee
event
subcommittee
meeting
on
November
1st,
we
talked
about
trying
to
incorporate
elements
from
that
poster
that
was
on
display
at
day
in
the
park
which
had
the
graphics
contributed
from
a
youth
at
last
year's
stand
with
Asians
vigil
a
couple
days
after
that
event
subcommittee
meeting
staff
Ingrid
and
myself
got
together
with
Christian
to
just
maybe
dropped
up
a
potential
design
which
was
in
the
pocket.
G
I,
don't
know
if
you
wanted
to
look
at
that
right
now
and
you
can
share
my
screen,
but
let
me
just
pull
it
up,
so
this
was
the
poster.
G
As
we
sat
down
around
the
table
to
look
at
a
design,
it
was
a
little
bit
difficult
to
find
the
exact
formation
of
the
hands.
So
we
kind
of
stepped
away
from
the
hands
and
just
kind
of
went
with
what
the
resident
had
requested.
A
just
very
bold,
big
letters
of
stand
with
Asians
and
then
found
this
kind
of,
like
sunset,
sunrise,
graphic
and
started
playing
around
with
that,
basically
and
seeing
how
the
different
colorways
looked.
G
We
felt
like
the
colorway
from
this
first
one
was
most
like
the
poster
and
that's
how
yeah
we
determine
that
first
Divine
but
kind
of
also
reminded
us
of,
like
the
Brisbane
hats,
too,
there's
a
little
bit
of
similarity,
but
that
was
the
second
design
and
then
the
third
one,
just
variations
of
the
color
I
suppose
designed
to
be
printed
on
a
three
by
five
size
flag,
as
they
were
informed
that
has
to
be
any
flag,
has
to
be
smaller
than
the
the
United
States
flag.
G
So
that's
where
we
are
right
now
we
did
put
out
some
information
about
tonight's
meeting
that
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
was
design
and
also
the
potential
procedures
for
flat
display.
So.
G
That
might
have
been
Christian's
favorite
too,
if
I
recall
correctly
yeah
yeah.
We
wanted
to
show
the
full
committee
first
of
War,
sharing
it
more
widely
with
the
community,
but
we
do
have
like
a
Google
form,
all
ready
to
get
other
input
from
the
community
and
that's
what
the
committee
would
like
us
to
do
at
the
next
step.
G
A
H
I
G
I
think
the
lead
time
for
ordering
Flags
was
about
six
to
eight
weeks,
and
so
it
kind
of
does
fall
in
line
with
the
timeline
that
we
talked
about.
Also
at
the
events
of
Committee
of
that
late,
January
time
frame.
I
Is
so
I
just
have
a
question
of
like
if
we
approve
it
and
then
is
how
what
is
the
time
frame
for
the
like
Community
input
and
what
happens
if
they're
like
overwhelmingly
like?
No,
we
don't
want
this,
then
what
would
the
plans
be
or
is
it
like?
We
present
them
with
options
that
they
choose
from,
so
that
either
like
no
matter
what
we're
moving
forward
with
something.
G
E
B
I
think
one
issue
area
that
would
need
Clarity
around
like
around,
like
the
the
flag
procedure,
would
be
like
if
we
are
able
to
fly.
B
So
that's
the
issue
that
I
think
our
legal
counsel
raised,
and
we
might
need
to
get
clarity
around
that
in
this
particular
case,
because
there's
no
real
or
you
know
real
stand
with
Asians
kind
of
flag
per
se.
A
So
when
would
we
get
more
qualification
from
Council
on
what
we
can
and
can't
do
in
terms
of
designs
in
situations
like
this.
B
Perhaps
by
the
next
meeting,
but
I
think
what
they
were
saying
was.
It
would
make
more
sense
to
have
like
locally
created
flags
as
posters
or
other
other
items.
Aside
from
a
flag.
B
Unless
the
other,
the
other
option
would
be
to
fly
a
flag
that
is
kind
of
like
we
said
like
kind
of
branded,
so
that
would
be
like
the
stop.
Api
hate
flag,
stop
eating
his
flag
logo
I.
Think
that
would
be
kind
of
similar
to
the
black
black
lives
matter
flag,
because
that
is
kind
of
like
a
more
known
logo
for
the
movement
per
se.
B
Or
like
we
could
have
other
like
not
a
flag
per
se
that
flies
in
the
community
flag,
the
community
park,
but
maybe
like
small
Flags
or
small
banners
that
people
can
hold
or
make
a
statement
with.
You
know
like
how
many
like,
maybe
we
can
put
up
as
like
a
display
like
miniature
Flags
I,
don't
know
the
commemorate
all
the
number
of
aapi
hate
that
the
community
has
endured
during
the
pandemic.
You
know
something
like
that
and
like
order,
the
X
amount
of
Flags
to
commemorate
that.
I
I
know
we
talked
during
the
air
College,
offering
the
policy
meeting
about
like
the
difference
of
the
signaling
of
stop
Asian
hate
versus
stand
with
Asians
and
so
I
I,
wonder
I,
don't
know
Stuart
I,
wonder
if
this
comes
back
to
the
likes
sort
of
proclamation
question
of
like
if,
as
long
as
it's
within
the
intention
of
a
proclamation
can
a
flag
say
anything
or
did
we
have
to
have
something
where
it's
like?
If
there
exists
a
flag
that,
like
this
message,
would
be
received
under
we.
J
J
So
I
think
we
just
need
to
work
with
the
attorneys
to
clarify
what
happens
if
there's
a
proclamation
that
doesn't
have
a
commonly
used
flag
associated
with
it.
And
how
do
you
know
we
would
like?
We
would
like
to
honor
that
we
would
like
you
know,
we
would
like
to
have
that
be
flown
some
in
some
fashion
in
the
city
and
the
question
then
and
I
think
Ingrid
captures
it
is,
you
know,
do
we
maybe
one
of
the
things
we
do?
J
Is
we
look
at
the
banners
that
we
fly
up
and
down
visitation
and
around
there?
That
may
be
a
different
way
to
do
that,
and
it's
just
a
matter
of
just
trying
to
work
with
making
sure
that
what
we're
doing
is
not
going
to
cause
a
potential
Supreme
Court
lawsuit
for
the
city.
Yes,
is.
I
The
idea
there
that
we
would
use
the
like
commonly
recognized
flag
on
the
flagpole
and
also
incorporate
the
community
design
somewhere
else,
or
that
we
would
only
use
the
community
design,
because
I
could
also
see
an
instance
where
that
could
be
seen
as
like.
That's
a
less
than
like.
It's
a
merit.
The
flagpole.
J
Right
I
mean
it's
a
it's
a
challenging
issue,
because
you
know
once
you
start
you're
talking
about.
You
know
saying
that
we're
going
to
do
one
thing
for
one
group
and
one
thing
for
another
group:
every
group
is
going
to
sit
there
and
say:
wait
that
group
got
flags
up
and
down
visitation.
We've
got
banners
up
and
down
visitation
yeah.
We
only
got
a.
We
only
got
a
flag
on
a
flagpole
we'd,
rather
have
it
up
and
down
visitation
and
I.
Think
I.
Think
as
Ingrid
said.
J
Let's
you
know
well,
staff
will
have
further
conversation
with
the
attorneys
and
try
and
resolve
something
that
might
make
some
sense
and
incorporate
that
as
part
of
the
procedure
that
we
bring
back
to
you
next
month
or
the
month
after,
depending
on
when
you
actually
meet
next
because
I
think
next
month
we
would
be
meeting
on
winter,
solstice
and
I.
Think
we've
already
expressed
the
desire
not
to
meet
on
that
day.
J
C
A
So
you
Carolyn,
you
said
six
to
eight
weeks
right
so.
G
E
D
So
what
question
here,
if
you're
done
William
no.
J
D
Am
so
let
me
make
sure
I
understand
this
so
in
this
case
stand
with
patients
and
there
is
no
precedent
flag
out
there.
You
know
that
is
you
know
that
any
particular
organization
affiliated
with
the
same
cause
has
put
out
you
know
at
the
same
time,
we
cannot.
You
know
if
we
design
a
flag
locally.
That
is
the
council
seems
to
be
concerned
about
us
putting
up
a
locally
designed
flag,
but
in
this
case
we
agreed
that
the
you
know
the
policy
here
is
going
to
be.
D
It's
going
to
be
fundamentally
based
on
the
premise
that
the
flags
that
are
accepted
to
be
put
flown
on.
The
flagpoles
will
be
government
speech
so
and
they'll
be
based
on
a
certain
Proclamation
that
the
city
council
does
likewise,
a
corollary
of
the
Proclamation
can
be
if
there's
no
pre-existing
flag
for
that
particular
cause.
There
is
sufficient
latitude
that
is
granted
to
the
city,
to
you
know
to
the
city
council
to
be
able
to
adopt
a
locally
designed
flag.
J
J
Absolutely
but
as
we
all
know,
the
law
doesn't
actually
always
make
logical
sense
in
and
of
itself,
but
that
would
be
that
will
be
the
conversation
that
you
know.
Staff
will
have
with
the
city
attorneys
to
make
sure
that
they
understand
what
the
concerns
are
and
why,
because
they
deviate
from
what
they
would
say,
is
the
most
conservative
legal
advice
they
can
give
us,
because
you
always
hope
that
your
attorney
gives
you
the
most
conservative
advice
to
begin
with,
and
then
you
can
work
with
them
to
find.
J
J
It's
always
I
mean
you
know,
attorneys
do
what
they
do.
Just
like.
You
know,
as
a
finance
person.
I
always
you
know
my
first.
My
first
idea
will
always
be
as
conservative
as
possible
because
I'd
like
to
preserve
what
we
have
and
then,
as
we
start
talking
about
okay
but
here's,
here's
the
other,
here's
the
other
issues
that
are
important
for
the
community,
and
how
can
we
make
those
issues,
work
for
us
and
I?
Think
that
too
you
know
the
attorneys
that
we
work
with
are
very,
very
qualified
and
very
and
very
much
understand.
J
A
G
A
A
H
A
I
guess
we'll
schedule
special
events
committee
meeting.
Well,
you
don't
have
to
be
next
week-
is.
A
E
A
I
A
Yeah
but
I
think
the
consensus
was
or
in
the
flag.
That's
a
minor
issue.
I
Right
I
was
wondering:
does
it?
Is
it
like?
We
should
order
the
like
against
Asian
hate
flag,
because
that's
established
or
just
is
there
I'm
as
long
as
you
as
everyone
else
is
comfortable
with
that?
We're
not
like
opening
up
another
can
of
worms,
so
I
mean
like
what
do
you
think
about
this,
and
we're
also
going
to
go
into
this
unknown
space
of
like
not
having
a
process
for
new
Flags
I.
B
Well,
we
could
have
a
conversation
with
legal
counsel
like
maybe
this
week
and
kind
of
get
Clarity
around
that
issue
and
discuss
it
further
So.
Based
on
that
conversation,
we
could
we
could
or
could
not,
depending
on
what
legal
council
say,
share
and
get
community
input
between
now
and
the
next
subcommittee
meeting
is
we
can
update
the
group
via
email,
what
like
what
needs
to
be
scheduled.
D
F
A
H
A
If
we
do
meet
the
weekend,
that
gives
us
about
seven
weeks
avoid
of
wait
time
for
them.
You
know
you're.
A
So
yeah.
A
Just
scheduling
this
kind
of
behind
the
scenes
after
Council
has
provides
you
guys
further
on
what
we
can
and
can't
do,
or
at
least
put
preliminary
that
way
we
can
kind
of
get
a
head
start
in
this.
G
Yeah,
so
we
might
not
I
don't
know
depending
on
when
we
can
talk
to
legal
counsel.
It
may
not
be
something
that
we
share
on
Friday
and
you
know,
because
that's
the
point,
if
they're
not
comfortable,
sharing
these
options
with
the
wider
Community
I
just
know
that
as
you're
calling
the
residents
original
request
of
like
he
did
bring
up
this
type
of
API
and
then
I
just
recall
of
him
being
very
intentional
and
asking
for
it
to
be
performed
positive
version.
G
E
H
I
G
Okay,
we'll
keep
the
committee
updated
on,
especially
the
events
the
committee.
A
Does
anyone
else
have
any
comments?
Are
you
sure
foreign.
D
Accommodating
the
request
at
the
same
time,
we
need
to
get
it
right,
and
this
is
the
first
time
so
you
know
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
factors
to
be
considered
a
lot
of
constraints
and
you
know
we
need
to
take
a
circumspect
view.
So
I
think
staff
is
definitely
on
the
right
track.
Getting
council's
input
and
balancing
that
again
with
our
own
recommendations-
and
you
know
the
community
desires
so
we'll
get
there.
D
So,
let's
try
to
meet
the
you
know:
Lunar
New
Year
Target
date,
but
if
that
doesn't
happen,
we
have,
as
was
pointed
out,
the
Asian,
the
aapi
Month
in
May,
which
you
know
worst
case.
We
will
be
able
to
accommodate.
You
know
doing
the
the
flight
request
during
that
month.
A
All
right
known,
as
has
in
comments
or
questions
or
anything
I,
guess
we
move
on
to
start
before
you
know.
Stuart
has
a
very
mentioning
that
we
have
to
discuss
scheduling
the
next
meeting
in
Stuart
Cambridge
and
then
I'm
like
speeding
is
supposed
to
be
scheduled
for
the
21st
of.
A
That's
the
winter
solstice
and
right
before
the
holidays.
So
is
there
an
actual
staff
report
or
it's
more
open
discussion.
A
G
The
first
Wednesday
December
7,
Park
and
Ride
kids
on
the
second.
A
A
Yeah
I'm
guessing
we
definitely
want
to
meet
before
the
16th
and
negative
1950s
the
holiday
week.
The
start
of
it.
A
Well,
I'm
actually
going
to
be
out
of
the
country
starting
the
23rd
so
anytime
after
that
won't
work.
A
A
B
I
And
the
Festival
of
Lights
is
on
the
fourth,
oh,
yes,
maybe
it
will
be
nice
to
have
a
reflection
on
the
festival
the
next
day
or
not.
Maybe
that's
like
too
much.
E
D
I
I
It
was
so
nice
getting
to
share
your
like
family
and
childhood
candies
and
stuff.
So
I
offer
that
and
just
wonder
if
that's
something
that
we
can
do,
but.