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Jared
members
of
the
committee
good
evening,
Michael
Roush
legal
counsel
for
the
city
of
Brisbane
I,
think
it's
really
important
for
all
the
appointed
officials
who
are
recipients
of
emails,
Etc
that
concern
City
business
to
have
and
to
use
the
city,
email
accounts,
primarily
I.
Think
it's
because
you
know
we
would
like
to
have
a
a
system
whereby
all
of
the
city
business
can
be
easily
retrieved.
I
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So
I
would
like
to
encourage
you
to
utilize
the
city
email
system,
don't
conduct
City
business
on
your
personal
email
or
your
personal
cell
phones
to
use
the
city
system
because
I
think
in
the
long
run,
it'll
just
make
your
life
easier
and
certainly
makes
City
staff
life
a
lot
easier.
I'll
be
glad
to
answer
any
questions
or
concerns
that
you
might
have
about
why
you
would
want
to
continue
to
use.
You
know
your
own
emails
or
your
own
cell
phones
I'd,
be
glad
to
try
to
see
if
I
can
explain
further.
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I
To
the
extent
you
can
use
email
instead
of
your
cell
phone,
that
would
be
certainly
preferent,
and
if
you
find
you
know
that
it's
that
it
is
something
that
you
really
would
like
to
have
use
of
a
cell
phone,
because
you
can
conduct
more
business.
That
way.
I
think
that's
something
you
could
discuss
with
staff
and
we
could
certainly
look
into
doing
that.
If,
if
that's
more,
if
that's
an
easier
system
for
you
to
use.
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Good
point,
certainly,
as
you
know,
residents
of
the
community
who
certainly
you
know
all
of
you
weigh
in
on
various
issues
concerning
City
business.
That
may
not
necessarily
involve
your
goal
as
committee
members,
and
so
my
my
advice
is
with
respect
to
your
role
as
committee
members
that
you
use
the
city's
email
system
for
that
purpose.
If
you're
dealing
with
a
an
item
that
is
not
within
your
committees,
what's
euphemistically
called
subject
matter
jurisdiction,
then
that
you
don't
have
to
use
the
city's
email
system
for
that
purpose.
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I
would
do
yeah
if
that
comes
in
like
that
forward
it
to
your
city,
email
and
then
delete
it
from
your
personal
email
and
then
I
think.
That's
that's
a
that'll
work,
because
again
many
folks
in
the
community
may
only
know
your
your
personal
email,
and
maybe
what
you
would
want
to
do
in
that
case
is
remind
them
that
in
the
future,
if
they
have
a
a
question
or
a
concern
or
a
comment
concerning
osec
business,
to
send
it
to
you
at
your
email
address
and
provide
that
to
them.
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Yeah
I
I
don't
see
a
problem
with
that
again.
I
I
think
that's
an
issue.
That's
kind
of
a
procedural
scheduling,
issue,
I'm
less
concerned
about
something
like
that
and
if
that
works
easier
for
you
during
your
travels,
so
be
it
you
know,
I
think,
that's
just
I,
don't
see
a
problem
with
that.
I
think
it's
the
when
you
get
into
matters
that
are
substantive
in
in
nature
is
where
the
the
problems
can
arise.
But
you
know:
are
you
available
in
this
section
such
day?
You
know:
can
you
meet
on
this
date?
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Essentially,
yes,
you
can
have
multiple
subcommittees,
but
to
avoid
any
kind
of
cross-pollination
or
potential
serial
meetings,
because
you'll
be
looking
at
subject
matter.
That,
of
course,
has
a
lot
of
overlap
and
intertize.
The
recommendation
is
basically
to
have
up
to
three
subcommittees
where
each
person
can
be
serving
on
no
more
than
one
subcommittee.
So
there
are
seven
total
members.
B
You
could
have
three
subcommittees
with
two
of
them
having
two
members
each
and
the
third
having
three
members,
or
you
know
two
subcommittees
with
three
members:
each,
but
not
having
subcommittees
that
would
have
you
know
each
person
would
only
be
serving
on
one
subcommittee,
so
you
wouldn't
have
any
kind
of
potential
for
sharing
information
in
a
Serial
meeting
kind
of
way.
Does
that
make
sense?
Sorry
I'm
not
sure
if
I'm
giving
that
the
best
explanation
Michelle,
you
look
puzzled.
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That's
also
that
that's
chapter
four
chapter
five
is
conservation.
Open,
Space
chapter
six
is
circulation.
Chapter
seven
is
infrastructure.
Oh
there,
it
is
on
the
screen.
Chapter.
Eight
is
public
facilities,
financing
and
chapter
nine
is
implementation,
and
then
there
is
an
extensive
appendix
and
the
original
draft
eir
for
the
plan
at
the
at
the
end
of
the
binder.
At
the
end
of
my
binder.
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I
think
to
make
it
easy,
everybody
should
read
the
first
three
right:
chapter:
zero,
zero
one.
No
two!
That's
just
introduction
and
definitions,
so
I,
agree.
I!
Think
everybody
needs
to
do
that
and
then
divvy
up
the
remaining
chapters,
and
that
would
be
there's
seven.
There
are
seven
of
us
perfect,
so
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I
understand
I'm,
just
the
I
I
understood
all,
but
but
for
because
others
seem
like
ones
where
you
may
not
have
a
lot
of
discussion
on
substance
necessarily
but
I'm
not
sure
I
would
agree
with
chapter
four.
That
seems
like
something
you
might
want
to
discuss
as
a
subcommittee
which,
if
everyone
is
reviewing
I
mean
everyone
can
review
everything
that
doesn't
mean
you
would
be
having
a
subcommittee
discussion
outside
of
a
full
meeting
about
it.
A
Adrian
can
I
make
it.
So
what
are
the
open
space
in
ecology,
committee
and
I?
Think
everyone
understands
that
chapter
four
is
very
much
related
to
the
open
space
and
ecology
scope,
so
in
some
sense
the
divide
and
conquer
the
rest
of
it
is
how
do
those
other
chapters
relate
to
the
chapters
that
everyone
is
all
reading
and
we're
going
to
be
looking
for
areas
where
the
contractor
has
provided
things
that
are
going
to
impact
the
city
either
positively
or
negatively,
and
so
we
want
to
be
able
to
catch
that
and
I.
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Yeah
I
think
you're,
correct,
Aaron,
I,
I,
I
didn't
explicitly
say
it
that
way
and
I
I
hadn't
necessarily
imagined
it
going
that
way.
But
I
think
as
long
as
the
conversation
happens
within
the
subcommittee
and
subcommittees
aren't
discussing
amongst
each
other,
unless
it's
happening
in
a
public
noticed
osec
meeting,
then
yeah
I
I
think
the
subcommittees
could
talk
about
the
chapters
that
everyone
is
reviewing
just
not
to
each
other.
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I
intend
to
read
through
them:
okay,
but
I,
I
I
think
that
we
should
all
like
crucial.
Well,
let's
see,
what's
in
them
right
now,
how's
that
for
an
idea
the
appendices
are
used,
classifications
and
the
glossary
oh
hold
on
sorry.
This
is
a
big
document,
which
is
why
it's
so,
okay,
the
appendices
start
with
this
blue
thing.
So,
basically
in
the
appendices
it
has
used
classifications
and
it
talks
about
all
of
the
definitions
of
use
classifications
like
educational
research,
development
exhibition,
consent,
Convention
Center
Etc.
C
So
this
is
like
a
reference
section
like
if
you
find
something
that
you're
reading
about
and
you
need
more
information
on
it
and
it
really
goes
across
definitions
that
that
go
across
the
entire
thing.
There's
like
Transportation
utilities
and
infrastructure
uses,
there's
residential
uses
commercial
uses.
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What's
in
there
in
case,
you
run
across
something
you
don't
you
need
further
definition
on
and
then
the
second
part
is
of
in
the
appendix
is
the
draft
of
the
Baylands
infrastructure
report
that
was
done
originally
and
it
looks
pretty
Technical
and
I.
Don't
we
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
the
relevancy
at
this
point
to
the
whole
document
and
I
don't
understand
this
part
yet
because
I
haven't
gone
through
it,
but.
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Yeah,
it's
it's
like
really
I'm
gonna
sit
here
and
study
this
picture
of
a
eight
inch
hdp
pipe,
that's
not
the
scale
that
goes
with
the
other
valve
manhole
frame
cover
and
memorize
it
yeah.
That's
that's
the
kind
of
thing
that's
in
the
draft
report
so
but
there
are
also
a
lot
of
background
materials.
So
yeah
we'll
read
that
too
it'll
be
fun.
A
I
guess
it's
Logistics
I'm,
not
sure
what
kind
of
question
it
is.
We
now
have
an
awful
lot
of
subcommittees
on
the
osec
and
they
are
not
easy
to
schedule.
Is
there
any
rule
that
says?
Osex
subcommittees
need
staff
for
all
of
the
meetings,
because
it
seems
like
there's
a
lot
of
forming
and
storming.
We
can
do
if
we're
only
trying
to
schedule.
You
know
an
hour
at
mad
house
or
whatever
to
talk
about
stuff
before
we
come
meet
with
staff.
With
our
questions.
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B
Is
correct,
I
would
say
you
know
there
are
certain
ad
hoc
subcommittees
that
do
generally
meet
with
staff,
but
I.
Don't
I
did
not
expect
that
these
ad
hoc
subcommittees
would
require
meeting
with
staff.
If
you
need
staff
resources
for
a
meeting
then
obviously
reach
out
to
us
and
and
then
we'll
work
together
to
schedule
that
but
great
I
mean
and.
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B
Is
an
excellent
question,
but
Karen
was
just
mentioning
so
comments
on
the
specific
plan
are
actually
to
be
submitted
with
the
eir
so
that
we
won't
actually
have
to
submit
these
for
a
while,
but
once
that
eir
is
released,
there
will
be
a
whole
new
batch
of
things
that
you
will
I
assume
want
to
review.
So
my
recommendation
would
be
get
started
on
the
specific
plan
so
that
you've
mostly
dispensed
with
that
by
the
time
the
eir
comes
out,
and
you
can
move
on
to
that.
B
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I
haven't
done
enough
city
government
I
will
admit.
I,
don't
follow
this
well
enough,
so
the
city
today
filed
the
notice
of
intent
to
do
the
eir,
and
that
means
that
we
have
30.
Excuse
me.
The
public
has
30
days
to
make
a
comment,
but
the
eir
is
going
to
take
them
longer.
So
as
long
as
we
get
our
comments
in
with
enough
time
for
them
to
consider
it,
oh
wait:
do
we
need
our
comments
in
within
30
days
in
order
for
them
to
be
considered
by
the
city
when
they
do
the
eir.
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B
C
I
just
like
to
say
on
the
NOP,
how
it
usually
goes
is
that
individuals
can
make
comments
on
the
NOP
any
individual,
and
so,
if
you
are
doing
your
reading,
you
can
jot
down
something
that
you
think
and
you
can
submit
it
as
Jason
Noonan
and
then
bring
it
to
the
committee
as
well.
But
in
case
you
were
worried
about
it.
You
can
go
ahead
and
submit
comments
at
any
time
in
the
30-day
period
as
yourself
and
then
still
be
able
to
submit
comments.
As
a
group.
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It's
good
to
know,
but
I'd
rather
not
blur
things
like
who
am
I
speaking
as
myself
or
you
know.
If
we
could
get
a
plan
where
we
got
our
act
together
in
time
for
this
I
think
that'd
be
superior
to
like
you
commenting
I
said:
are
you
Michelle
salmon
or
are
you
Michelle
salmon?
Member
of
this
committee
and
subcommittee
yeah.
G
A
Not
sorry
minutes
the
the
agenda.
So
it's
a
packet
with
the
agenda
and
that
way
the
other
two
subcommittees.
The
night
of
our
next
meeting
can
say:
oh
wait:
we
need
you
to
read
page
372
because
they
addressed
it
and
it's
okay
or
you're.
Right
I
also
saw
this
in
my
section.
So
in
some
sense
you
know
it's
the
we're
not
violating
the
brown
act,
because
the
public
is
getting
the
exact
same
list
of
questions
that
we're
giving
each
other
in
advance.
A
So
we'll
have
some
homework
before
our
next
meeting,
but
we're
not
going
to
violate
the
brown
act
by
getting
together
and
that
way
the
night
before
the
meeting
or
sorry
the
night
before
the
the
the
public
comments
are
due.
We
already
have
a
list
of
questions
and
we
only
need
to
tweak
the
few
that
have
issues
yeah.
B
That
was
more
or
less
what
I
was
going
to
suggest,
whether
you
do
it
individually
or
with
your
subcommittees
or
both.
But
so
our
next
meeting
is
May.
24Th
agenda
goes
out
the
Friday
before
in
order
for
me
to
compile
them,
I
would
probably
want
them
like
that.
The
Monday
of
that
week
would
probably
be
ideal.
Maybe
I
can
say.
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B
So
the
notice
of
preparation
is
notice
of
preparation
of
the
environmental
impact
report.
An
environmental
impact
report
will
be
prepared
to
study
the
impacts
of
the
specific
plan
that
is
presented
on
all
of
the
various
environmental
impacts
and
present
on
those
which
is
considered.
Alongside
the
you
know,
development
application,
I'm,
probably
screwing-
that
up,
but
hopefully
somebody's
going
to
correct
me.
Michelle
Karen
somebody
who's
been
through
this
a
few
more
times.
C
And
so
you
ask
a
question:
can
you
please
make
sure
you
address
sea
level
rise
and
that's
one
of
the
things
you
might
put
in
the
notice
of
preparation,
a
question
that
you
have
and
so
then,
when
they
draft
the
eir,
they
need
to
respond
to
those
questions
that
all
the
people
have
asked,
plus
all
the
things
that
are
legally
required
so
say,
for
instance,
there's
a
a
wetlands
area
that
they
haven't
addressed,
or
you
know
that
they
plan
to
build
all
over.
You
might
want
to
ask
in
the
notes
of
preparation.
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B
Think
about
the
NOP
as
like
I
want
you
to
study
these
impacts
in
this
particular
area.
You
will
have
an
opportunity
later
when
the
draft
eir
is
released,
to
comment
on
that
and
to
submit
your
comments
on
the
specific
plan.
We
don't
like
this
thing
that
you're
proposing
that
that
comes
later.
The
NOP
is
really
just
make
sure
that
you
are
looking
at
this,
that
you
are
studying
that
impact
in
the
environmental
impact
report.
B
And
and
having
a
general
understanding
of,
what's
in
the
specific
plan,
surely
won't
hurt
to,
you
know,
inform
what
things
that
you
might
want
to
ask
them
to
study
or
or
make
sure
that
they
are
planning
to
study,
but
I
don't
think
you
have
to
read.
You
know
your
entire
100
and,
however
many
pages
before
you
do
that.
Do
that
commenting
so.
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The
question
a
secondary
question
so
understand
the
notice
of
preparation
and
any
question
any
concerns
we
have.
We
would
give
to
whoever
puts
that
environmental
impact
report
together
and
they
would
look
into
those
things
and
then
they
release
the
environmental
impact,
Report
Draft
and
then
we'd
have
the
opportunity
to
comment
again.
A
C
Go
ahead,
Michelle,
okay,
my
understanding
is
this
is
the
specific
plan
that
the
developer
would
like
to
build
and
it
has
been
submitted
as
such
to
the
city
of
Brisbane.
There's
a
lot
of
processes
that
happen
before
this
particular
plan
that
they
would
like
to
build
is
allowed
to
be
built,
and
so
the
developers
made
their
intention
clear.
This
is
what
we
think
we
can
build,
and
this
is
this:
the
timeline
that
we
want
to
build
it,
etc,
etc.
C
C
B
Sorry
we
we
were
just
looking
to
see
if
we
could
find
there's
a
nice
little
slow
chart
about
the
process
that
I
was
gonna,
see
since
I
was
already
on
the
city
website,
Baylands
page
to
see
if
I
could
remember
where
that
was
and
just
share
it.
Real,
quick
and
I
I
can't
find
where
it
is
at
the
moment.
So,
oh
and
just
as
I
say
that
I
can't
find
it
I
find
it
excellent
here.
F
J
B
J
B
C
J
C
C
C
H
C
H
The
city
manager
asked
the
council,
and
verbally
they
said.
Yes,
we
want
osec
to
review
it
as
a
body,
but
at
this
time
there
is
no
application.
So
we're
just
talking
about
how
you
would
break
up
a
potential
application.
Would
there
be
one
subcommittee
or
is
it
something
that
everyone's
interested
in
and
you
might
want
to
break
it
up
by
subject
matter
when
it
comes
up,
but
we
don't
have
an
application.
C
I
brought
this
forward
like
two
meetings
ago,
asking
if
the
oh,
because
this
is
a
potential
development
in
a
sensitive
habitat
within
the
boundaries
of
the
hcp,
and
there
will
be
a
tremendous
amount
of
impact
on
our
open
space,
natural
habitat
environment
and
as
well
as
the
people
of
Brisbane.
If
this
does
go
forward,
I
asked
if
we
as
osic
could
be
allowed
to
participate
in
review
of
the
process
and
I
understand
that
there
was.
There
was
potential
plan.
Then
there
was
a
specific
plan.
Then
there
was
a
notice
of.
C
There
was
a
notice
of
preparation,
Last
Summer,
on
the
a
draft
for
for
an
eir,
and
then
they
submitted
us
more
specific
plan,
I
think
in
November,
and
then
in
December.
They
did
a
notice
of
addendum
notice
of
preparation
in
the
middle
of
Christmas,
where
no
one
really
knew
what
was
going
on
and
it
didn't
happen.
I
mean
we.
No
one
made
I
didn't
make
comments
on
it.
C
I
didn't
even
know
what
was
going
on
because
it
was
right
during
the
holidays
and
then
I'm
I've
heard
that
there
are
some
issues
about
the
hcp
and
take
permits
and
that
type
of
thing
and
I
just
wanted
the
US
to
be
able
to.
You
know
kind
of
weigh
in
on
this,
since
it
is
very
related
to
open
space
and
ecology
and
our
natural
habitat
and
the
protection
of
it
and
the
habitat
conservation
plan
and
all
the
all
the
primary
tenets
of
which
this
organ.
This
committee
was
founded
on
and
so.
C
I
know
that
we're
not
at
the
point
where
there
is
a
draft
eir
for
us
to
review.
But
I
would
I
know
that
they
have
filed
this
specific
plan
and
I'm
wondering
if
we
could
be
reviewing
that.
Just
like
we're
reviewing
the
balance
specific
plan,
because
they
must
have
filed
a
specific
plan
or
they
wouldn't
have
done
an
addendum
to
the
NLP.
C
Yeah
and
so
when
you
say,
there's
nothing
to
review
I
I,
don't
I!
I!
Think
that
there
is
I.
Think
it's
pretty
much
just
like
the
review
that
we're
doing
right
now
on
the
balance
specific
plan.
Only
we
didn't
get
an
opportunity
to
comment
on
the
NLP
because
it
was
well
I
guess
we
had
a
very
narrow
opportunity
that
we
that
we,
as
a
committee,
weren't
able
to
do
because
we
didn't
even
meet
in
December,
but.
C
Yeah,
so
that's
that's
why
I
brought
it
up
and
that's
why
I
brought
it
forward
and
so
consider
formation
of
a
subcommittees
for
future
review
of
The,
Quarry
development
and
eir.
It's
more
like
I
would
like
us
as
a
whole
committee
to
at
least
review
the
specific
plan
that
was
filed
because
it
will
have
severe
impacts
on
the
community
and
on
the
habitat
traffic
noise,
lights,
24
7
hour
operation
dramatically
increased
truck
traffic,
reconfiguration
of
Quarry
Road
and
needing
a
a
an
amendment
to
the
hcp
so
for
more
take
of
endangered
species.
C
C
I
H
H
It
was
recirculated
to
account
for
revisions
to
the
project
description,
including
the
applicant
submission
of
a
design
permit
and
general
plan
zoning
text
amendments.
So
that's
all
on
the
city
website.
The
revised
NLP
in
the
comments
that
comment
period
is
closed.
I
had
no
eir
has
come
out,
so
I
I,
don't
know
if
they,
if
there's
any
type
of
specific
plan
or
application,
that's
been
put
out,
I
mean
there.
Wasn't
we
didn't
get
any?
We
get
the
same
emails
that
you
do
announcing
those
kind
of
things.
G
H
E
E
C
J
I,
don't
well
it's
a
little
unclear
about
what's
out
and
what
isn't,
but
I
and
I,
don't
I
think
the
only
as
I'm
understanding
it
and
I
can
be
corrected.
Here
is
the
only
thing
we
really
need
to
do
is
if
there
is
a
specific
client
plan
plan,
read
it
before
the
deir
for
the
Quarry
comes
out
at
some
future
unknown
date.
C
C
G
E
A
Go
ahead,
so
we
just
divided
up
a
lot
of
reading
for
the
bay
lands
and
in
no
way
I'm
am
I
trying
to
say
that
one
is
more
important
than
the
other,
but
it's
quite
likely
that
only
three
of
us
might
be
interested
in
reading
and
diving
into
the
Quarry
as
an
osec
subcommittee
and
the
rest
of
us
might
be
interested
in
doing
it
as
public.
So
it
might
be
worth
figuring
out
if
we
want
to
make
one
ad
hoc
subcommittee
or
two
and
I
don't
know
that
we
need
to
decide
that
tonight.
G
C
B
So
some
of
you
probably
know
this
I
know.
Glenn
knows
this
resolution
2023-10
in
support
of
SB
252.
The
divestment
bill
was
passed
by
Council
on
April,
6th
and
I.
Believe
Ingrid
went
ahead
and
submitted
that,
to
the
a
link
sign
on
link
that
Glenn
had
shared
I'm,
not
sure
did
we
ever
sort
out
if
there
was
a
specific
person
at
Calpers
that
needed
to
be
sent
to
Calpers
and
calstrs
no.
D
I
think
this,
the
sign-on
link
was
sufficient.
That
goes
to
Senator
Gonzalez's
website
and
and
I'll
just
offer
an
update,
saying
that
the
bill
so
far
passed.
Two
Senate
committees
passed
the
labor
public
employment
and
pensions
committee
and
it
passed
the
Appropriations
Committee
and
then
it
goes
to
wait.
A
minute
now
pass
the
Judiciary
Committee
its
next
committee
is
Appropriations.
Then
it
goes
to
the
assembly.
The
assembly
hearings
will
happen
in
June,
and
the
assembly
is
where
we
got
killed
last
year,
so
everybody
crossed
their
fingers.
B
Okay,
thanks
for
the
update,
also
on
April,
6th
and
second
reading
on
April
20th,
the
building
efficiency
program
and
then
mint
past.
So
that
was
largely
just
some
cleanup
and
timeline
kind
of
things
that
Rachel
is
moving
forward
with
implementing
and
communicating
to
the
building
owners
and
representatives.
B
I,
don't
have
all
of
the
details
in
front
of
me,
but
let's
see
if
I
can
challenge
my
memory
too.
All
of
the
things
that
were
changed
so
one
of
the
items
specifically
about
the
timeline
is
about
the
Beyond
benchmarking
timeline.
So
basically
we
had
it
written
in
as
a
five-year
cycle
and
the
next
cycle
started.
You
know
immediately
after
the
end
of
the
first
one.
B
There
was
no
time
in
between
if
a
building
owner
does
not
do
their
improvements,
you
know
until
the
end
of
that
five-year
cycle
which
they
have
every
right
to
do.
They
would
not
have
any
time
before
they
need
to
evaluate
and
do
another
audit
to
realize
any
improvements.
So
we
built
a
kind
of
extra
year
in
there
to
make
sure
that
any
improvements
have
at
least
one
year
to
see
the
effect
before
we
say.
Yeah
you're
still
not
efficient
enough
and
need
to
go
back
and
do
another
audit
and
act
on
that
again.
B
So
that
was
one
of
the
most
significant
ones.
We
also
worked
in
some
additional
kind
of
Pathways
or
or
options
on
the
water
side
of
things.
Most
buildings
don't
get
a
water
score
from
Energy
Star
portfolio
manager.
Those
are
only
available
for
multi-family
buildings,
for
whatever
reason,
so
we
built
in
an
extra
option,
that's
similar
to
one
that
we
had
on
the
energy
side
about
being
able
to
be
on
the
performance
pathway.
If
they
are
Rachel
may
be
able
to
correct
me.
B
B
On
the
energy
side,
we
changed
what
the
reference
metric
was
because
in
working
with
Energy
Star
portfolio
manager
and
our
software
that
we
are
using
to
manage
the
program
Touchstone
IQ.
We
realized
that
the
metric
that
we
originally
wrote
Into
the
ordinance
as
the
performance
metric
to
compare
to
for
25
percent.
Better,
we
had
written
in
weather,
normalized
site
ghg
intensity,
which
it
turns
out,
doesn't
really
exist
in
these
platforms
and
would
be
very
complicated
for
us
to
manage.
B
I
think
that
basically
covers
it.
There
might
have
been
a
couple
other
super
minor
kind
of
tweaks.
They
were.
They
were
all
pretty
much
just
things
that
in
kind
of
moving
forward
with
the
Beyond
benchmarking
implementation
work
in
the
last
year,
we
realized
like
hey.
This
is
going
to
be
really
challenging,
we're
going
to
have
to
go
ahead
and
address
this.
B
B
My
other
ones
are
about
a
bunch
of
notes
on
the
EV
charger,
so
you
will
know
that
we've
got
the
ones
here
at
City
Hall
and
at
Mission
blue,
which
are
operating
and
available.
There
were
a
couple
of
kind
of
complaints
right
off
the
bat
about
their
speeds
and
we
looked
into
it.
Chargie
looked
into
it
and
found
that
there
was
a
setting.
That
was
not
right
and
they
corrected
it,
and
it
seems
like
that
has
fixed
that
situation.
B
I
heard
back
from
one
of
the
people
who
had
complained
that
they've
used
it
again
and
it
seems
to
be
working
well
and
Georgie
has
been
keeping
an
eye
on
it
to
make
sure
that
setting
isn't
somehow
getting
triggered
back.
So
hopefully,
if
anybody
out
there
tried
the
Chargers
in
the
first,
you
know
week
or
two
and
had
a
very
slow
charging
experience.
Hopefully,
you'll
come
back
and
give
it
another
try.
D
B
C
C
Can
you
park
there
still,
if
you're
not
charging
and
that's
a
problem,
because
that
parking
lot
absolutely
fills
up
when
there's
an
event
and
sort
of
the
same
thing
for
you
know
park
and
ride,
but
in
particular
the
mission
blue,
so
that
question
came
up
really
strongly
because
it
the
charging
stations,
take
up
what
six
places
there.
Something
like
that.
We.
C
B
B
Well,
ultimately,
we
will
receive
the
majority
of
the
revenue
there
is.
You
know,
fees
that
we
pay
them
for
managing
the
network
and
and
all
of
that,
but
yes,
ultimately,
the
revenue
comes
to
us
and
we
set
the
the
charging
at
that
rate
because
we
have
to
pay
for
the
electricity
and
our
electricity
price
varies
by
time
of
day
and
season
and
is
different
at
our
different
facilities,
and
we
decided
changing
it
all
the
time
or
at
all,
of
the
different
places
was
going
to
be
complicated
so
and
confusing
to
people.
B
And
that's
honestly,
when
you
know
from
a
system-wide
electricity
perspective,
we
really
don't
want
people
to
be
charging
EVS
if
they
can
avoid
it.
So
we
may
Implement
higher
pricing
for
those
summer
Peaks
if
we
need
to,
but
we'll
see
how
that
goes
to
the
question
of
mission.
Blue
parking
well
parking
as
a
whole.
We
are
going
to
be
adding
signs.
The
spaces
should
generally
be
used
for
active
EV
charging.
B
That
said,
for
a
private
event,
we
do
kind
of
expect
that
that
could
become
an
issue.
Technically
they
are
still
EV
charging
spaces
that
the
public
could
use
in
a
public
parking
space
and
a
public
parking
lot
with
most
things
in
the
city.
It
will
likely
be
enforcement
based.
So
okay
are
complete
based
sorry,
complaint-based
enforcement.
C
B
C
C
B
B
There
is
a
sign
on
the
station
and
the
the
parking
signage
that
says
you
can't
park
here
unless
you're
charging
is
covered
with
a
trash
bag,
so
those
charge
those
parking
spaces
are
available
for
other
people
to
use
at
the
time.
At
this
point,
because
the
charging
station
is
not
functioning
so
thanks,
yeah.
B
Okay,
I
did
have
I
did
have
two
more,
but
these
ones
are
short
ones,
not
not
so
long.
Mission,
blue
Center
solar
project
through
the
pce
bulk
procurement
project
interconnection
got
submitted
just
in
time
before
that
net
energy
metering
deadline
change
and
we
are
going
to
be
starting
a
project
next
week
with
the
County
Office
of
sustainability,
a
methane
gas
cataloging
project.
E
F
Excellent
I
can
be
brief.
I
just
wanted
to
update
on
the
again
the
Brisbane
Building
efficiency
program.
The
annual
reporting
deadline
is
coming
up,
May
15
and
we
have
already
received
submissions
from
21
buildings.
13
of
those
are
fully
in
compliance.
Three
are
exempt
and
five
are
pending
revisions.
F
I,
don't
know
if
you
recall,
but
the
city
switched
to
a
an
alternate
software
provider
called
Touchstone,
and
that
has
really
helped
streamline
a
lot
of
this.
A
lot
of
this
compliance
evaluation
on
the
back
end.
So
having
a
really
positive
experience
with
that
again,
this
is
for
the
the
annual
reporting.
F
C
Okay
on
to
subcommittee
reports
start
with
events.
I
want
to
do
that,
one.
We
had
a
very
successful
habitat
restoration
last
Saturday
and
we
have
a
osec
quorum,
Aaron,
Mary,
Glenn
and
I
were
there
so
I
was
very
proud
of
our
group
and
we
worked
for
a
couple
of
hours
pulling
broom.
We
had
27
volunteers,
including
several
from
the
city
Carolyn's
son
Thomas
was
here
it
was
great
and
we
had
a
really
good
time.
B
C
B
B
Don't
have
a
specific
location
in
mind
and
knowing
that
time
of
year
could
be
pretty
warm,
we
may
want
to
consider
whether
there
are
any
is
any
work
in
any
of
the
Canyons
that
we
need
to
come
back
to
or
REO
also
suggested
that
oh
Michelle,
what's
the
name
of
it,
the
Botanical
Garden?
Is
it
called
up
at
the
about
the
park
entrance
yeah?
B
B
C
B
C
B
B
B
D
B
B
Well,
that's
not
so
much
of
a
bulletin
board
space
as
like
a
place
where
we
stack
handouts,
or
it's
got
those
little
like
pocket
things
on
the
walls
for
for
handouts,
posters,
I
don't
know:
do
we
really
have
a
place
for
posters,
I
mean
I,
know.
Sometimes
there's
like
one
or
two
about
like
a
upcoming
event
that
they'll
stick
up
by
the
front
door,
but
there's
not
exactly
a
ton
of
real
estate
there.
So
I
think
it
would
probably
depend
what
exactly
we
have
how
much
space
we
need.
D
Probably
yeah
but
I
just
think
it's
it's
a
good
idea
to
remind
people
frequently
about
you,
know,
shielding
their
lights
and
not
using
more
light
than
necessary
at
night,
and
you
know
not
planning
invasive
species
and
stuff,
like
that.
Some
of
these
posters
could
be
pretty
simple,
I
would
think,
but
just.
J
D
B
Think
it's
more
about
bandwidth
of
his
actual
job,
which
I
understand
might
be
a
bit
busy
at
the
moment,
but
we
can
see
if
we
have
some
real
estate
and
then
go
from
there
see
if
that's
see,
if
he's
got
the
band
yeah.
Thank
you,
but
yes
we'll.
We
can
check
into
what
we
might
have
space
for
and
then,
if
so,
maybe,
if
we,
if
we
have
some
space,
maybe
we
can
schedule
a
meeting
of
the
subcommittee
to
talk
about
what
kind
of
themes
we
want
to
incorporate.
B
B
D
B
B
B
Our
city
attorneys
are
reviewing
and
have
concerns,
so
we
are
following
closely
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
last
week,
trying
to
dig
into
this
and
I
think
it's.
It's
definitely
a
setback
and
there
are
concerns,
and
we
want
to
understand
what
the
risks
are
and
be
cautious
and
it's
entirely
possible
that
we
will
have
to
take
a
new
approach
or
make
changes.
B
I
think
that's
it's
not
entirely
clear
right
now,
but
okay
yeah,
so
we
can
I
can
share
more
kind
of
resources
that
I
have
on
on
the
matter
with
the
subcommittee,
and
we
can
talk
more
in
depth
if
we
have
any
new
information
about
it
with
the
subcommittee,
but
unfortunately,
there's
just
not
been
a
lot
of
very
specific
Berkeley's
ordinance
is
different
than
ours.
What
was
challenged
is
not
the
same
approach
technically
that
we
took,
and
so
the
ruling
itself
was
also
very
broad,
so.
C
H
H
Think
that
he
sent
letters
to
those
six
and
I
was
going
to
say
that
I
have
gotten
in
Bob's
queue
to
get
the
map
redrawn
and
to
have
a
package.
You
guys
asked
for
a
package
that
is
going
to
be
the
update
and
I'd
also
mention
that
I
think
I
will
go
back
to
council
to
include
those
five
little,
the
lot
79
or
those
little
properties
in
the
priority
preservation
area.
Since
we.
C
E
B
Yeah
yeah
they're
starting
yeah
they've
started
or
have
started
yeah.
How
can
we
expect
to
be
receiving
at
least
draft
I?
Don't
know
if
there
will
be,
you
know
back
and
forth
or
or
what
on
whatever
they
sent
to
us?
But
we
expect
that
I
don't
know
if
it
will
be
a
beginning
or
end
of
June,
but
they
said
in.
H
B
H
Really
drainage,
but
there
is
that
channel.
So
there
used
to
be
a
pipe
that
was
kind
of
abandoned,
but
they're
still
a
natural
Channel.
That's
what
Jason
and
Paul
muscal
have
been
working
on
and
then
there's
the
concrete
Channel
and
in
between
there's
a
pipe.
That's
mostly
full
clogged.
So
the
water
had
filled
that
natural
Channel
and
spilled
over
under
the
trail,
and
that's
what
Shawna
had
sent
NSR
about
and
the
pipe
was
clogged
and
I
hadn't
been
out
there
to
see
it.
H
H
If
that
would
stop
the
water-
and
we
talked
about
what
we
heard
from
Paul-
is
that
he
wants
to
hold
water
there
I
mean
that's,
that's
kind
of
the
Big
Goal.
Is
the
water
doesn't
rush
through
the
channels,
but
it
does
have
to
drain,
but
you
want
it
to
meander
so
that
you
can
have
frogs
and
tadpoles,
and
so
we
talked
about
so
there
is
one
pipe.
That's
maybe
like
a
12
inch
pipe,
that's
pretty
full
and
it's
keeping
water
from
getting
into
the
concrete
Channel
and
it's
pushing
it
over
the
trail.
H
H
So
we
didn't
have
the
utilities
engineer
who's
responsible
for
like
sizing
storm
drainage,
so
we
met
again
and
brought
him
out
and
it
had
dried
up
by
then
so
I
think
it's
probably
dry
until
next
winter,
it's
probably
not
going
to
overflow,
but
we
talked
about
having
adding
on
to
that
probably
corroded
12-inch
corrugated
metal
pipe
and
having
a
an
overflow.
So
it
would
rise
to
the
level
that
if
the
water
in
the
channel
reached
that
level,
it
would
go
into
the
pipe
and
go
through,
and
we
would
do
that
after
the
Frog
Season.
H
E
C
J
So
the
the
name
of
the
book
that
Colleen
had
recommended
to
me
and
that
I
had
read
it
sort
of
details,
some
of
the
coping
with
some
of
the
people's
fears
and
expectations,
and
you
know
the
realities
of
dark
skies
and
how
precious
they
are.
It
was
called
The,
End,
Of,
Night,
searching
for
darkness
in
the
age
of
artificial
light
and
I.
Think
staff
I
just
want
to
say
that
staff
in
cooperation
Rachel
did
an
excellent
ordinance.
We
made
some
suggestions.
B
No
sorry
there
was
there's
a
definition
in
the
draft
ordinance
for
environmentally
sensitive
habitat
areas,
which
would
have
the
most
restrictive
lighting
requirements,
and
you
know
understanding
we
have
it
currently
written
as
the
conserved
habitat
areas.
I
think
is
the
the
high
the
you
know,
designation
within
the
habitat
conservation
plan
area
and
a
buffer
around
that.
So
we
wanted
him
to
map
because
we
just
kind
of
randomly
picked
a
number
of
what's
that
buffer
and
how
many
properties
does
that
include?
C
Anything
for
tree
issues,
yeah
I
I,
have
some
of
the
entry
issues
I
mean
we
haven't
met
on
it,
but
I
will
say
that
the
Constantin
of
Buzz
saws
over
the
last
several
weeks
is
has
been
disheartening.
There's
been
some
really
major
trees
that
have
been
taken
out
or
severely
pruned,
and
it
seems
almost
I
understand
that
people
were
very
concerned
about
the
storm
and
different.
C
There's
also
a
tree
a
tree
that
does
need
to
be
removed
and
it
is
on
city
property,
but
it
was
not
originally
planted
as
a
city
trade,
it's
been
there
most
of
my
life,
but
it
is
the
the
owner
wants
to
remove
it.
It's
a
a
very
overgrown
Cypress
kind
of
looking
Tree
on
climate
streets
right
up
the
street
from
Mary's,
but
I
noticed
walking
up
the
sidewalk.
It's
like
buckled,
the
sidewalk,
it's
buckling,
the
street.
C
It's
buckling
everything
the
tree
is
is
definitely
outgrowing
its
space
there,
it's
at
least
60
years
old,
because
it's
been
there
I,
don't
remember
it
not
being
there,
but
it's
like
huge
now
and
talk
about
a
dangerous
tree
that
one
should
be
removed,
and
so
I
I
see
these
different
things
going
on
and
it's
concerning,
and
so
the
we
do
need
to
get
going
on
the
tree
issues
and
should
I
just
submit
some
requests
for
all
the
City
trees.
I
see
with
ivy
on
them.
H
E
C
H
B
A
A
Oh
God,
yes
and
I
I,
don't
know
what
those
trees
are,
but
I
bet
there
are
people
in
this
committee
and
people
watching
this
meeting,
who
don't
who
do
know
what
those
trees
are.
What
are
the
best
trees
to
replace
the
downed
trees
with
and
so
I'm
just
going
to
put
that
out
there
as
a
you
know,
maybe
it
should
be
osec
Outreach.
Maybe
it
should
just
be
people
putting
a
Facebook
blast
like
hey.
C
I
agree,
and
we
have
a
tree
list
that
we
were
going
to
review
on
the
tree
committee
as
well.
That
was
one
piece
that
we
had.
We
didn't
get
done
before
speaking
to
the
microphone.
That
was
the
one
piece
that
didn't
get
onto
the
flyer
yeah,
and
maybe
we
can
work
on
that
a
little
bit
as
soon
as
we
maybe
in
June.
J
So
I'm,
just
looking
at
the
tree
removal,
seven
day,
notices
for
March,
there
were
five
five
at
least
five
trees
taken
out,
and
these
are
like
large
trees
of
like
80
inch,
circumference
and
stuff.
It's
on
me
that
we
didn't
have
a
meeting.
I
forgot
that
fell
off
my
to-do
list,
but
it
is
back
on
my
actually
I
got
back
on
my
to-do
list
yesterday,
but
didn't
have
an
opportunity
to
follow
through
on
it.
So
I
will
send
out
that
email
very
soon
and
the
other.
J
H
J
H
Are
there,
is
it
specific
to
something
like
that,
or
is
it
a
lot
of
things
or
maybe
could
you,
if
you
send
an
email
to
staff,
we
can
communicate
with
planning
staff
about
if
it,
because
you
know
she
modified
a
few
things
that
didn't
work
about
the
ordinance?
So
if
there
are
a
few
things
like
that,
okay,
that's
different.
J
C
Okay:
okay,
we'll
we'll
schedule
that
Sierra
Point
Park
planning
nothing's
happened.
The
only
thing
I
had
a
question
about
was
you
know
with
the
park
planning
I
I
mean
there's
been
a
huge
amount
of
subsidence
along
the
coastline
at
the
marina
and
I,
don't
see
where
that
was
really
being
addressed
other
than
just
doing
a
martian,
so
as
part
of
open
space
and
ecology
committee.
C
J
B
D
G
B
B
Do
folks
who
wants
them
and
are
you
okay
with
just
getting
the
parts
that
you
are
being
assigned
to
or
do
you
need
a
full
copy?
I
wanted
to
get
a
tally,
so
I
can
have
the
staff
that's
going
to
run
those
copies.
Do
it
all
at
once
and
ideally
as
little
as
possible,
because
it's
a
lot
of
paper,
but
so.
G
B
G
G
B
A
B
B
B
It
sounds
like
next
month
we'll
have
on
agenda
item
about
reviewing
the
Baylands
NOP,
keeping
the
Quarry
on
here
as
old
business
and
then
Karen.
You
said
vegetation
management
plan
review
and
that
I
think
is
pretty
much
all
we
need
to
talk
about
on
the
calendar.
Besides,
Glenn
I
was
going
to
give
you
a
reminder
about
the
Dark
Skies
article,
but
we
already
talked
about
that
and
do
you
need
that?
B
B
B
A
A
C
Have
no
problem
doing
that
since
I
sit
on
the
board,
so
just
go
to
mountainwatch.org
and
contact
Arielle.
If
you
want
to
give
purchase
a
gift
certificate
for
the
mission
blue
nursery
and
you
don't
have
to
wait
till
a
plant
cell
to
use
it,
we
would
love
love
love
to
supply
you
with
native
plants
from
San
Bruno,
Mountain,
Shameless
promotion.
D
D
G
D
B
You
need
to
tell
me
where
you're
going
to
be
so
I
can
include
it
in
them
in
the
agenda
and
then
post
an
agenda
on
hotel
room
or
meeting
room
or
whatever
door
at
the
time
of
the
meeting,
and
you
can
participate,
but
you
cannot
be
on
video,
so
you
can
participate
by
Zoom
or
calling
in,
but
you
can
only
participate
in
audio.
So
if
you
would
like
to
do
that,
that
is
an
option.
I
can
talk
to
you
more
about
the
particulars
Aaron.
Can
Aaron
can
tell
you
how
it
went?