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Full Agenda: https://www.brisbaneca.org/bc-openspace/page/open-space-and-ecology-committee-meeting-72
00:00:00 MEETING SETUP AND INTRODUCTION
00:03:53 CALL TO ORDER, ROLL CALL
00:05:00 ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA
00:06:06 ANNOUNCEMENTS
00:06:54 ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
00:07:36 APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES
A. Minutes of November 30, 2022
NEW BUSINESS
00:58:55 C. Dark Skies Certification Discussion
00:08:24 D. Review of New Brown Act Provisions
00:21:49 Questions
01:25:03 OLD BUSINESS
B. Discuss Revised 2023 Draft Work Plan
01:34:09 STAFF UPDATES
01:48:30 SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS AND REORGANIZATION
02:08:19 CALENDAR ITEMS
02:10:42 CHAIR AND COMMITTEE MEMBER MATTERS
NEXT MEETING: February 22, 2023
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A
We
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requested
agenda
change
first
before
I
say
that,
let
me
say
this
is
my
first
time
doing
a
hybrid
meeting
so
bear
with
me
and
also
I,
can
hear
myself
like
an
echo
in
the
room.
So
if
I'm
talking
funny,
that's
probably
why
we
wanted
to
see
if
we
could
slightly
rearrange
the
old
and
new
business.
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B
E
Michelle
this
Saturday
from
10
a.m,
till
I'm
not
sure
what
time
in
the
afternoon
2
p.m.
The
San
Bruno
Mountain
watch
Mission
blue
Nursery
is
having
a
plant
sale
and
we
have
lots
of
wonderful
things
to
plant,
and
this
is
the
perfect
time
of
year
to
plant
after
the
extensive
amount
of
rains
we've
had
so
please
join
us.
It's
at
the
mission
blue
Nursery,
which
is
behind
the
Brisbane
Firehouse
off
of
Bayshore,
follow
the
road
like
you're
going
to
machinery
and
equipment.
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B
I
Should
we
introduce
I'm
sure
we
all
everyone
knows
Ingrid
Padilla
our
city
clerk,
but
she
wanted
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
the
memo
that
was
sent
out
to
everybody
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
regarding
the
changes
to
the
brown
Act
as
covid
remote
meeting
is
starting
to
taper
off
so
take
it
away.
Ingrid.
J
Thank
you
committee
members,
I'm
Ingrid,
Padilla,
City,
Clerk
I
wanted
to
share
with
you.
As
you
know,
like
early
this
month,
you
received
a
memo
from
legal
counsel,
Michael
Roush
again
regarding
how
to
conduct
the
conduct
of
meetings
through
February,
28,
2023
and
thereafter
new
Brown
act,
Provisions
allowing
for
remote
meeting
attendance,
and
in
that
memo
he
mentioned
that
the
governor
has
announced
that
he
intends
to
lift
the
proclaimed
covid-19
Statewide
state
of
emergency,
effective
February,
28
2023.
J
J
So
after
the
28th
Council,
commissioner
committee
members
will
need
to
attend
meetings
in
person
and
members
of
the
public
May
attend
meetings,
either
in
person
or
remotely
so
long
as
they're
is
a
city
technology
that
will
allow
members
of
the
public
to
observe
and
participate
in
the
meeting
in
essentially
the
same
fashion
as
if
they
were
in
person.
So
the
city
has
acquired
that
technology,
and
so
we've
been
testing
it
with
City
Council
meetings.
J
Currently
and
Adrian
is
there
to
also
test
the
technology,
so
what
I
have
for
you
today
is
kind
of
like
a
visual
present
representation
of
what
this
memo
looks.
Like
I
know,
some
members
have
some
questions,
but
as
I
know,
this
is
our
current
understanding
of
how
sb2449
will
be
implemented.
So
it's
what
I'm
going
to
be
sharing
with.
J
You
is
kind
of
like
a
living
breathing
document,
it'll
change
over
time
and
the
legal
team
is
actually
planning
to
do
kind
of
like
all
hands
on
deck,
with
all
the
legislative
bodies
to
have
a
workshop
on
sb2449
in
April.
So
perhaps
their
understanding
will
change
through
time,
but
I'm
also
here
to
kind
of
gather
any
questions
you
may
have
and
I'll
bring
it
back
to
the
legal
team.
J
Good
okay,
so
this
is
this:
is
some
supplemental
information,
A
visual
representation
of
fp2449
and
ways,
members
of
a
legislative
body
May
participate
in
meetings
after
the
28th.
So
this
is
our
current
understanding
of
the
guidelines.
Okay,
so
these
are
ways
members
can
participate.
So
first
thing
is
a
member
can
attend
the
meeting
in
person.
Members
will
be.
J
J
So
with
this
provision,
the
member
must
notify
the
legislative
body
at
the
earliest
opportunity
and
provide
a
general
description
of
one
or
more
of
the
circumstances.
Above
so
email
notice
is
sufficient
if
sent
to
the
chair
and
the
city
clerk
or
the
staff
lead,
and
the
member
provides
a
general
description
of
one
or
more
of
the
circumstances
above
so
this
one
is
basically
like
a
notification
and
it's
limited
to
two
per
year.
J
J
This
is
a
limit
to
two
per
year
per
legislative
body.
So,
for
example,
if
you
have
a
subcommittee
you're
able
to
use
the
just
cost
provision
twice
that
year
or
that
I
don't
know
how
many
subcommunities
you
have
so
you
have
subcommittee
a
you,
belong
to
three
subcommittees,
a
b
and
c
and
you're
allowed
to
per
year
for
each
legislative
body
and
two,
for
you
know
the
osec
committee
in
terms
of
Staff.
J
J
So
with
this
case,
there's
no
limit,
but
there
must
be
a
true
emergency,
such
as
a
physical
or
Family
Medical
Emergency
that
prevents
a
member
from
attending
a
meeting
in
person.
So
this
is
an
email
request
situation.
So
it's
not
just
a
notification.
It's
a
request
to
the
chair,
City
Clerk
or
staff
lead
and
provide
a
general
description
of
the
emergency.
The
legislative
body
itself
must
consider
the
requests
at
the
earliest
possible
time
and
must
approve
the
request
if
the
member
is
to
be
allowed
to
participate
remotely.
J
So
with
that
in
terms
of
Staff,
there's
also
I
need
to
have
an
in-person
quorum,
but
sub
companies
may
have
one
person
one
one
in
person
and
one
remote
on
the
agenda.
There
must
be
like
a
standing
item
for
us
to
kind
of
really
comply
to
this.
Just
oh
we'll
need
a
consent,
calendar
item
so
that
the
legislative
body
has
the
opportunity
to
consider
and
then
act
on
the
request.
J
For
example,
the
address
of
a
hotel
where
the
members
stay
or
the
member's
home
address
the
location
must
be
accessible
by
the
public,
and
then
you
have
to
contact
the
city
clerk
for
requirements
because
we'll
we
also
have
to
provide.
You
know
like
a
notice
for
you
to
post
at
the
location
where
you're
holding
the
meeting.
J
J
So
a
lot
of
people
have
posed
a
question
if
these
same
procedures
for
attending
are
these
the
same
procedures
for
attending
subcommittee
meetings?
And
the
answer
is
yes,
because
the
requirement
of
the
brownout
app
applies
to
legislative
bodies
of
local
government
and
the
term
legislative
body
is
defined
to
include
the
governing
body
of
a
local
agency
and
any
commission
committee
board
or
other
body
of
the
local
agency,
whether
permanent
or
temporary
decision
making
or
advisory,
that
is
created
by
formal
action
of
a
legislative
body.
J
J
So
if
there's
interactive
audio
people
can
call
in
even
when
the
live
stream
and
or
cable
channel
is
down,
the
meeting
May
continue
and
the
legislative
body
may
vote
on
an
item.
However,
if
there's
no
way
to
have
interactive
video
audio,
for
example,
the
zoom
is
no
longer
working.
The
legislative
body
may
not
vote
on
an
item.
However,
the
members
of
the
legislative
body
may
continue
discussing
the
item
and
asking
questions,
but
they're
not
required
to
so.
J
You
can't
vote
on
an
action,
but
you
can
continue
discussing
and
asking
questions
if
the
zoom
is
down
so.
Lastly,
let's
say
the
zoom
went
down,
then
it
went
back
up,
so
if
it
interactive,
video
and
audio
becomes
active.
The
latest,
the
legislative
body
must
allow
more
public
comment
on
that
item
before
taking
action
on
the
item,
so
that
provides
opportunities
for
the
public
to
finally
have
that,
inter
engagement
and
interaction
on
that
item,.
G
E
J
G
J
J
G
J
F
Glenn
was
next.
My
question
was
pretty
much
the
same
as
Barbara
and
you've
answered
it
Ingrid,
but
a
comment.
Our
democracy
is
really
in
trouble
and
these
Provisions
apply
to
Committees
of
volunteers
who
are
donating.
Their
time
are
just
extremely
onerous
and
are
likely
to
discourage
people,
especially
if
they
do
have
to
travel
from
participating
in
commissions
and
committees
and
and
I
just
find
that
outrageous
and
and
I'm
upset
about
it.
F
So
I
just
wanted
to
register
that
I
know,
there's
nothing
you
can
do
about
it,
but
and
I,
don't
know
where
feedback
would
even
go
if
if
we
could
have
an
opportunity
for
feedback,
but
this
is
just
really
very
onerous
for
people
who
are
not
employees
who
are
volunteers,
who
are
trying
to
do
something
for
their
community,
and
you
know
it
doesn't
really
apply
to
me.
I'm
happy
we're
back
to
going
in
person,
but
I'm
kind
of
privileged
and
that
I
don't
have
to
travel
for
for
work.
It's
just
it's
bad.
F
H
So
I've
got
a
couple
questions
and
Ingrid
you
just
answered
one.
My
question
was
gonna.
My
first
question
was
gonna,
follow
on
to
Glenn
and
say:
where
should
our
feedback
go?
So
if
you
have
any
idea
other
than
you
know,
just
writing
to
our
Senators
about
how
this
impacts
our
ability
to
work
for
the
for
the
community
and
the
tax
Basin
and
the
and
the
voters,
which
is
what
they
care
about?
That
would
be
great
so
for
sure.
H
H
J
H
H
There's
some
really
big
privacy
issues
there
right
and
if
we're
having
a
public
meeting,
that's
recorded
and
someone's
saying
some
sensitive
medical
stuff
I
feel
like
there's
a
real
potential
issue
there
and
so
I
I
think
it
would
be
best
for
legal
to
consider
that
in
advance
it
might
require
some
privacy
training
to
the
to
the
Committees.
Okay.
J
H
J
H
Yeah,
it's
a
that's
a
that's
a
sensitive
one
and
especially
because
I
think
those
requests
go
to
the
whole
committee,
and
so,
if
you
weren't
someone
who
worked
with
the
government
and
had
to
think
about
privacy
or
protecting
other
people's
privacy,
all
the
time,
you
might
not
think
about
saying.
Oh
you
know
this
person's
having
this
really
invasive
horrible
procedure
on
there.
Yeah
I'll
add
that
to
the
table
as
well.
Thank
you
absolutely
and
then
the
could
you
scroll
down
a
little
bit
to
the
audio.
Only
teleconference
Zoom
conditions.
H
H
J
H
And
that
does
not
have
a
cap
on
it.
This
is
it's
real
unfortunate,
I
I
know
everyone
kind
of
understands
my
situation,
but
basically
I
in
addition
to
the
amount
of
work
travel
I
did
before
for
the
next
six
weeks
or
six
months,
I'm
going
to
be
traveling
twice
as
much
so
I
have
a
feeling
I'm
going
to
miss
a
lot
of
subcommittee
meetings
and
some
of
the
osec
meetings,
which
is
a
real
bummer
and
I
thought
I
was
I,
would
be
kicked
off
of
osec
by
the
summer.
H
If
this
actually
goes
down
this
way
so
I'm
a
little
a
little
stressed
out,
because
I
I,
like
my
role
in
osec
and
I,
would
like
to
continue
working
for
this
body
in
the
city.
But
these
rules
change
things
a
lot
and
I,
don't
know
that
I'm
going
to
be
able
to
continue
but
I'm
going
to
stick
around
as
long
as
our
bylaws
allow.
J
J
H
H
We
just
froze
Aaron,
no,
no
I
froze,
because
my
question
was:
could
you
join
a
meeting
as
a
member
of
the
public
and
participate
as
a
public
member
and
not
as
a
voting
member
but
I?
Think
because
of
this
teleconferencing
thing,
there's
more
reasons.
Reason
to
do
that
right,
so
I
think
that
question
is
moved
and
I
think
that's
all
I
have
Ingrid
I
appreciate
your
taking
your
time
to
join
us
today
and
ask
or
and
go
through
this
and
I
will
yield
now.
Thank
you.
E
Yeah
I
one
question
was
answered,
which
was
about
the
subcommittee
Quorum,
because
there's
the
you
can
have
up
to
three
on
a
subcommittee,
so
two
would
have
to
be
in
person
Aaron.
If
you
weren't
there.
I
would
make
every
effort
to
be
in
person
so
that
you
could
be
remote
because
I
consider
your
contribution
extremely
valuable
and
then
could
you
repeat
how
many
times
you
can
use
the
teleconferencing
emergency
that
so
two
per
subcommittee
that's
two
times
for
each
Committee
Member
for
the
just.
E
E
H
E
J
E
C
C
D
Just
one
comment
and
I
think
Glenn
alluded
to
it.
I
mean
all
of
us.
Are
volunteers,
and
you
know:
Zoom
has
provided
flexibility
to
have
meetings
midday
or
during
our
lunch
hour
and
I
mean
I
I,
don't
see
that
happening
anymore.
I
think
we're
all
going
to
be
stuck
with
evening
meetings
which
is
not
great
but
I,
think
they
really
need
to
re-look
at
these
rules
and
adjust
them.
So
I
mean
it
takes
away
a
lot
of
flexibility
and
participation.
D
I
think
we're
going
to
lose
a
lot
of
either
things
aren't
going
to
get
done
or
they're
going
to
keep
getting
pushed
out
because
we
won't
have
a
quorum
or
we
won't
be
able
to
meet,
and
so
you
know,
if
you
want
it
done
or
you
know,
because
that's
what's
going
to
happen,
things
are
going
to
slow
down
it's
going
to
slow
down
process
anyway,
my
two
cents.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
B
My
first
question
I'm
just
curious
about
the
subcommittee
meetings,
because
in
the
past
those
haven't
been
public
and
we're
sometimes
we're
meeting
on
site.
So
how
does
this
change
things?
How
could
anybody
comment
on
you
know
when
we're
meeting
out
at
the
frog
habitat
you
know
two
or
three
of
us
standing
by
the
water
there?
How
does
I
I
don't
understand
what
what
happens
then
I.
J
I
J
B
That
that
would
be
I
would
I
would
find
that
terribly
onerous,
because
that
actually
is
interesting
and
I
think
very
germane
to
what
we're
doing
here
and
without
the
actually
getting
out
and
looking
at
the
sites.
Then
this
is
a
waste
of
time.
You
know
you've
got
to
do
some
on
hand.
You
know
on-site
stuff,
that's
very
important,
I'm
sitting
in
a
room.
That's
not
that
important.
I
J
A
G
G
I
mean
it
just
seems
that
they
must
consider
the
requests.
As
Aaron
pointed
out,
this
is
going
to
go
before
the
public
and
the
privacy
concerns
about
that
I'm
also
just
kind
of
concerned
about
timing
like
if
it's
truly
an
emergency
that
generally
that
that
kind
of
by
definition,
usually
means
you
don't
have
a
lot
of
notice
and
as
we
only
eat
meat
once
a
month,
yeah.
J
How's
that
gonna
work,
it'll
just
it'll,
just
be
a
standing
item
on
your
you
know,
kind
of
like
roll
call
or
something
like
that
and
then,
as
a
group
you'll,
have
to
approve
or
deny
their
request
of
the
member
okay,
all
right
so
and
I
guess
it
could
be
made
the
day
of
also
I
mean.
But
you
know,
because
it's
going
to
be
an
emergency
situation.
So
that's
why
it'll
just
be
a
standing
item,
but
you
know
we're
attached
to
it.
It'll
just
be
in
an
oral
report
or
something.
H
I
Since
well,
since
we're
on
this
one
angered
from
a
staff
perspective,
maybe
ask
to
or
look
at
clarifying
who's
who
the
email
request
is
made
to,
because
let's
say
the
chair
isn't
checking
their
email.
It
should
definitely
go
to
a
city
staff
person,
and
would
it
be?
Is
it
better
that
it's
the
committee
staff
person,
then
the
city
clerk,
or
do
you
want
to
see
all
of
them
for
all
the
committees
or
should
it
be
all
three?
You
know
all
of
the
above
I.
J
J
A
F
So
so
I'm
just
wondering
if,
if
somebody
does
know
that
they're
going
to
need
to
be
gone
in
advance
is,
is
that
going
to
be
public
information?
I
mean
I
I
can
imagine
people
not
wanting
to
have
the
general
public
know
that
they're
going
to
be
out
of
town
on
X
day,
especially
if
they
live
by
themselves
and
there's
nobody
else.
That's
going
to
be
home
I'm.
Just
that
concerns
me
a
little
bit.
A
J
You
know
in
these
times
is
also
another
concern
for
members,
but
unfortunately
that's
the
only
criteria
that
we
could
work
with
around
teleconferencing.
You
do
have
to
notice
the
location
of
where,
because
people
could
potentially
join
you
in
that
in
in
that
location.
That's
the
idea
behind
the
brown
act,
provision
and
like
in,
as
you
know,
it's
very
Antiquated
but,
like
I
said,
that's
like
one
of
the
only
provision
that
we
could
use
at
this
time.
F
J
H
If
I
had
my
hand
up
next
Glenn
I'm
I
actually
put
it
up
just
to
respond
to
that.
I've
also
had
the
worry
of
being
on
work,
travel
in
weird
places
and
have
to
put
things
on
the
door
of
my
hotel
room
that
led
all
of
the
you
know.
The
Creeps
in
the
hotel
know
what
city
I
live
in
and
then
I'm
on
a
public
committee
and
therefore
find
out
more
about
me
so
I
this
rule
is
the
traditional
Brown
act,
Rule
and
I.
H
Don't
think,
there's
anything
that
our
Brisbane
legal
is
going
to
be
able
to
do
to
fix
it.
The
the
issue,
the
safety
issues
that
especially
you
know,
women
alone
feel.
But
this
is
one
of
the
things
that
you
know
when
we
figure
out
who
to
start
writing
letters
to
about
how
broken
this
is
that
we
should
all
include
our
our
personal
concerns
on
that
one
yeah.
D
D
It's
I,
just
don't
think
it's
gonna
work
who
who
wants
to
track
all
of
this
anyway
right
right,
I,
just
it
just
doesn't
I
mean
that's
going
to
take
a
lot
of
Staff
time,
because
I'm
assuming
staff
will
have
to
track
all
of
this
and
then
what
happens?
If
you,
if
you're
out
more
than
two
times,
are
you
gonna,
get
kicked
off,
I
mean
for
God's
sake,
we're
volunteers.
So
it's
it's
not
going
to
work.
No.
D
I
I'm
going
to
step
in
I
mean
it's
a
law
and
we
have
to
comply
with
it,
so
staff
may
or
may
not
want
to,
but
we
have
to
comply
with
this
law.
We're
not
going
to
ignore
it,
especially
when
it's
been
explained
in
such
great
detail
at
a
public
meeting
right
now.
This
is
how
we
function
before,
and
everyone
attended
in
person,
but
it
does
bring
up
the
question.
What,
if
someone
just
is
simply
absent.
J
J
A
No,
that
would
just
just
apply
for
osec
as
a
body
I
I,
assume,
probably
similar
to
what
ingwood
was
referring
to
with
the
just
cause,
is
to
per
body.
You
know
that
may
apply
to
subcommittees
in
a
similar
way
if
you're
consistently
missing
the
subcommittee
meeting.
That
would
be
a
problem
but
I
think
less
so
than
the
attendance
at
the
full
meetings.
J
E
So
I
had
two
questions
one
is:
can
we
agenda
is
changing
the
bylaws
to
have
a
little
bit
more
leeway
on
that
in
so
that
we
don't
lose
valuable
members
due
to
unforeseen
circumstances?
I,
don't
know
if
that's
a
possibility
or
not,
and
so
I'll
leave
I
don't
need
an
answer
now.
I'll
leave
that
to
you
to
find
out
before
we
agendize
that
and
then
the
other
thing
is
up
at
the
very
beginning
of
the
this
document.
E
It
talks
about
the
brown
act
and
it
mentions
the
legislative
bodies
and
when
I
joined,
open
space
in
ecology,
I
I
think
it's
above
that
even
or
maybe
it
was
on
the
first
page,
I,
don't
know
but
I
read:
I've
read
the
brown
act
numerous
times
and
I
knew
what
it
was
by
the
time.
I
was
in
second
grade
and
when
I
first
joined
osec
the
open
space
and
ecology
committee
was
not
there
really
subject
to
the
brown
act,
because
we
were
not
a
legislative
body.
E
I
want
to
know.
If
that's
changed,
because
here
it
says,
the
requirement
of
the
brown
act
applies
to
legislative
bodies
of
local
government
Aid
governmental
agencies.
We
are
technically
not
a
legislative
body,
but
then
they're
going
on
to
say
the
term
legislative
body
is
defined
to
include
the
governing
body
of
a
local
agency
such
as
the
city
council,
any
commission
committee
board
or
other
body
of
local
agency,
whether
permanent
or
temporary
Etc,
that
is
created
by
formal
action
of
a
legislative
body.
This
includes
standing
subcommittee
meetings,
but
not
ad
hoc
subcommunity
is
this.
J
I
E
I
I
D
J
I
J
E
Yeah
because
I
would
hate
to
lose
a
member
because
of
this
now,
someone
just
doesn't
want
to
show
up
to
meetings
or
they
don't
remember
that
we're
having
a
meeting
or
whatever
is
one
thing,
but
when
you
have
truly
dedicated
people
who
want
to
be
there
and
cannot
because
of
work
and
try
work
travel,
which
is
sometimes
required.
That
makes
it
really
challenging,
especially
when
they've
been
very
participatory.
A
So
two
things
on
this
point:
first,
this
is
not
actually
in
the
bylaws,
it
is
actually
in
a
commissions
and
committee
procedures
or
something
like
that
document.
So
I
think
that
policy
as
it
is
written
applies
to
any
of
the
committees
or
commissions.
So
you
know
still
something
we
could
discuss
as
far
as
absences,
but
something
to
consider
and
I.
Don't
actually
have
it
in
front
of
me
right
now,
but
I
believe
it
does
make
a
decision
as
unexcused
absences
versus
excused
absences.
So
we
may
be
able
to.
A
J
A
There's
one
thing
that
I
don't
know
if
it
came
up
very
specifically,
but
I
was
thinking
about
earlier,
as
in
terms
of
the
kind
of
timelines
of
notification.
If
you
are
going
to
be
teleconferencing,
that
does
need
to
be
mentioned
on
our
agenda,
which
means
it
needs
to
be.
Staff
needs
to
be
notified
of
that
essentially
a
week
before,
or
at
least
by
the
Thursday,
because
we
generally
post
the
agenda
the
Friday
morning
before
our
meeting.
J
C
A
Well,
I
think
it's
important
to
remember
that
ad
hoc
committees
are
not
subject
to
these
provisions
and
the
majority
of
our
committees
are
in
fact
ad
hoc.
Thank
goodness,
I
have
a
couple
Standalone
committees,
but
most
of
our
other
committees
are
ad
hoc,
so
we
would
be
able
to
as
far
as
I'm
understanding
continue
with
virtual
meetings
at
whatever
time
works
best
for
folks
for
those
ad
hoc
committees.
H
A
On
the
list,
I
would
probably
let
Ingrid
describe
well
I.
Maybe
I
can
try.
So
ad
hoc
is
essentially
a
group
working
on
a
project
that
is
specific,
defined
and
temporary
in
nature
or,
if
I'm,
using
the
right
kind
of
phrases,
something
that's
a
discrete
project
that
will
come
to
an
end
versus
something.
That's
an
ongoing
responsibility.
A
H
A
As
they
are
needed,
we
have
their
need
of
Distinction
until
might
have
been
just
like
last
year
or
something
so
I.
Remember
that
for
the
first
time
then
we
are,
we
do
have
on
our
agenda
today
to
discuss
subcommittee
reorganization.
So,
okay,
perfect,
you
know
as
we're
talking
about
who
is
on
what
subcommittee.
We
can
probably
also
can
evaluate
whether
we've
designated
them
appropriately
perfect.
G
A
A
There's
also
some
questions
for
us
about
whether
exemptions
for
Brisbane
Stars
would
even
meet
the
letter
of
the
law
for
certification.
So
if
including
that
exemption
would
automatically
discount
us,
even
if
we
did
have
all
of
the
other
requirements
of
certification
meta,
so
staff's
recommendation
would
be
to
forego
certification
and
to
pursue
an
ordinance
that
is
customized
and
you
know,
meets
the
majority
of
those
Dark
Skies
certification
requirements,
but
allows
us
to
be
a
little
bit
more
flexible
and
meet
our
local
needs.
B
G
Oh
I'm
happy
to
start
if
everybody's
good
with
that,
so
I
think
I
think
some
of
the
some
of
the
things
we're
getting
blowback
from
staff
on
I.
Don't
quite
understand
like
I.
Just
don't
think
it's
doing.
Two
educational
days
per
year
is
really
that
difficult
I
mean
we
have
resources
like
the
Brisbane
star
and
we
have.
G
We
could
do
it
at
one
at
the
day
in
the
park,
there
are
some
of
the
other
requirements
that
are
going
to
be
significantly
challenging,
but
the
city
just
signed
the
lease
on
a
whole
nother
building
and
with
the
idea
they're
going
to
be
scaling
up
services
in
preparation
for
the
Baylands,
so
I
I
kind
of
feel
like
if
the.
If
the
resources
aren't
there
today,
okay
I
hear
you
but
I
think
I
think
they're
gonna,
hopefully
be
there
tomorrow.
G
Maybe
not
you
know
that
it's
it's
everything's
a
trade-off
right
and
then
my
my
final
thought
around.
That
is
that
I
think
the
subcommittees
inclination
is
to
see
if
we
can
go
ahead
and
write,
something
that
is
Dark
Skies
compliant
as
close
as
possible
and
and
if
we
have
to
pull
back
one
little
thing.
Okay,
but
that
leaves
then
leaves
us
in
a
good
position
in
the
future,
with
like
a
really
solid
program,
where
the
possibility
of
future
compliances
in
reach.
H
H
And
then
there's
also
the
option
of
we
don't
care.
We
want
something
fast
which
I
feel
like
is
also
a
goal
that
people
keep
talking
about,
and
so
there's
actually
a.
This
is
not
a
black
or
white
question.
There's
there's
a
bunch
of
input.
I
feel
like
we
need
in
order
to
to
really
get
where
we're
going
and
I
hear
a
lot
of
different
push,
and
so
I
think
it'd
be
I.
H
A
Before
Glenn
goes,
I
sh
I
will
note
that
we
do
have
our
Council
Liaisons
coming
to
our
February
meeting.
I
think
that
would
probably
be
the
only
opportunity
really
to
get
Council
input
would
be
to
have
liaison
input.
I
think
we
probably
don't
have
opportunity,
aside
from
bringing
a
recommendation
forward
to
council
for
getting
input
from
all
of
the
council
members
go
ahead.
Glenn.
F
G
Well,
I
mean
the
Dark
Skies
does
have
an
opening
for
low
wattage
lighting,
so
I
suppose
it
seems
to
me,
like
stars,
are
probably
exempt
at
least
up
to
a
point.
I
mean
I.
Think
that
really
huge
star
that
we
all
love
on
the
mountain
might
not
fall
under
the
low
wattage
exemption.
But
that's
something
we
would
have
I
think
we
need
to
decide
which
direction
we're
heading
before
whether
or
not
we
hash
out
that
question
or
not.
D
H
H
A
Done,
thank
you,
I
think.
As
far
as
how
long
it
would
take
I
mean,
obviously,
there's
there's
still
some
process
to
go
through,
but
I
think
if
the
if
a
decision
was
made
that
we
are
okay
with
having
something
strong
and
local,
but
not
necessarily
certificationable,
then
I
think
the
draft
ordinance
that
we
have
ready
at
this
point
would
probably
be
ready
to
move
forward.
A
Oh
wow,
then
another,
you
know
maybe
couple
of
subcommittee
meetings,
or
so
we
have
the
ordinance
drafted
and
we
have
several
places
in
the
ordinance
where
it's
this
language
or
this
language,
so
I'm
making
a
decision
about
seeking
certification
would
allow
us
to
kind
of
make
those
decisions
on
those
particular
points
and
I
would
think,
probably
be
able
to
move
forward
relatively
quickly.
Of
course,
right
great
notwithstanding
the
ability
to
schedule
subcommittee
meetings
and
get
things
on
the
council
agenda
and
all
of
that,
but
yeah
Shauna.
B
B
A
I
think
it
could
probably
be
done.
It
might
not
be
the
cleanest
way
to
do
it,
but
you
know
we
could
certainly
come
back
and
amend
an
ordinance
that
is
done
so
we
could.
We
could
write
it
as
you
know,
first
step
and
then
try
to
ratchet
up
as
we
get
you
know,
additional
resources
or
you
know
see
how
things
are
working
Etc.
E
E
If
we
go
for
that
or
we
go
for
that,
we
do
all
the
work
and
then
the
council
doesn't
approve
it
because
they
don't
they
get
blowback
from
staff
that
the
staff
would
not
be
able
to
enforce
it
or
that
it
would
be
too
much
work
and-
and
we
don't
have
the
budget
for
it,
so
I
really
am
on
the
fence
about
it,
and
in
our
last
two
subcommittee
meetings,
I
had
asked
for
Council
feedback
before
we
before
we
went
before
we
I
mean.
What
are
we
doing?
What
do
you
want?
E
E
C
E
A
So
I
will
say:
I
see
basically
two
paths
forward.
One
is
if
the
majority
of
the
committee
here
tonight
agreed
that
seeking
certification
was
acceptable
to
the
committee,
and
that
was
your
recommendation.
Then
I
think
we
would
move
forward
with
that
and
the
subcommittee
could
proceed
with
our
work
with
the
planning
staff
and
you
know,
get
that
ordinance
ready
to
bring
forward
for
osec,
follow-sec
consideration
and
then
moving
on
to
council.
If
this
group
is
not
ready
at
this
point
in
time
to
say
we
did,
we
can
make
that
decision.
A
E
C
D
A
K
Yeah,
my
understanding
is
that
it's
mostly
a
stamp
of
approval,
then
Brisbane
would
appear
on,
would
be
able
to
use
the
international
dark
sky
Association
logo.
They
would
appear
on
the
international
dark
sky
website.
Also,
one
of
the
requirements
for
dark
sky
certified
communities
is
that,
like
Barbara
mentioned
earlier,
you
hold
education
events
twice
annually
and
that
you
also
implemented
dark
sky
monitoring
program.
So
there
are
sort
of
ongoing
activities
that
would
come
as
a
result
of
being
dark
sky
certified.
K
E
K
G
Go
I
want
to
say
one
more
thing,
I
think
the
main
benefits
of
being
so.
Yes,
there's
that
little
like
it's
supposed
to
like
you
know
you
get
it's
supposed
to
be
it's
a
feather
in
your
hat
right.
The
certification
I
think
the
for
me.
The
main
reason
doing
it
doing.
It
is
the
science,
because
this
is
this
is
the
program
that
has
been
born
out
of
the
science
like.
This
is
what
best
practices
are
for:
protecting
our
environment,
our
species,
our
health
and
and
anytime.
G
G
Well,
I,
don't
understand
why
we
would
be
submitting
something.
I
mean
I,
don't
want
to
say
this
I
think.
If
we
write
a
dark
skies
ordinance
that
is
certifiable,
we
should
try
to
be
certified
and
if
we
don't,
then
maybe
we
don't
and
if,
if
they
find
a
slacking
a
place,
maybe
we
don't
have
to
cry
about
it.
G
E
H
Wrong
I
think,
like
I
said
earlier,
this
really
isn't
a
black
and
white
thing.
It's
a
great
thing
like
we
need
to
figure
out
whether
the
goal
is
to
be
fast
or
is
be
certified
or
be,
as
close
as
possible
to
certification
that
it's
unfortunate
but
I
think
we
need
I.
Think
we
need
help
from
the
bigger
committee
here.
Mm-Hmm
and
I
Glenn
I
wrote
your
opinion
down,
got
it.
E
G
G
E
C
H
E
Yeah
but
I
do
think
that
we
should
talk
to
the
liaison
and
tell
them.
You
know
our
Collective
thoughts
that,
where
we're
at
with
this,
and
that
we
want
to
get
us
the
best
ordinance
we
can,
which
would
be
as
close
to
certification
as
we
could
achieve,
without
pushing
it
over
the
edge
in
terms
of
what
this
city
can
do.
Staffing
wise.
D
G
G
So
there's
a
couple
of
things
we
have
to
add
in
I,
think
the
bigger
and
but
I
think
they're
minor,
I,
think
they're,
very
handable,
handleable
I
think
the
bigger
issue
that
we're
going
to
have
to
work
through
is
some
of
the
things
that
are
already
in
there
in
terms
of
just
you
know,
bureaucratic
stuff,
like
you
know,
monitoring
and
inventories,
and
things
that
that
staff
feels
like
I,
think
we're
gonna
have
a
hard
hardest
time.
It's
going
to
be
with
staff
and
just
but
I'm
totally.
G
A
And
after
our
last
conversation
about
this,
we
had
discussed
reworking
things
to
create
these
kind
of
new
buckets
of
priority
projects,
routine
and
ongoing
efforts,
and
then
long-term
policy
issues.
That
would,
you
know,
really
only
become
a
significant
part
of
our
work
for
the
year
if
a
certain
action
is
triggered.
So
that's
what
I've
gone
ahead
and
done,
and
you
can
see
here,
I
think
all
of
the
bullet
points
should
be
very
familiar
from
the
version
that
you
saw
at
our
last
meeting.
B
A
E
A
Karen,
can
you
remind
me
what
the
next
steps
were
as
far
as
the
Quarry
or
perhaps
remind
all
of
us,
I
think
we
had
talked
about
this,
but
it
would.
We
need
counsel
to
request
input
from
osak.
Is
that
right,
because
it's
not
generally
under
their
purview
of
planning
application
is
under
the
planning
commission's
purview,
yeah.
E
I
Yeah
I
mean
the
the
whole
purpose
of
subcommittees
or
Liaisons
is
that
you
can
have
again
a
more
free-flowing
discussion
and
you're
looking
for
they're
the
ones
most
connected
to
the
committee.
So
then
you
get
their
support
and
they
then,
when
it
comes
to
the
full
Council,
say:
hey
we
looked
at
this.
This
makes
a
lot
of
sense
we
want
to
you
know
we
want
to
support
this,
whatever
the.
Whatever
the
item
is,
and
the
others
that
are
less
involved,
May
defer
to
their
recommendation,
you.
E
E
H
G
H
C
A
G
I'm
sure,
if
it's
not
going
to
mess
anything
up,
I'd
prefer
to
not
vote
on
it,
because
I
didn't
have
an
opportunity
to
compare
this
to
some
of
our
old
work
plans,
because
in
the
past
we've
had
problems
where
things
kind
of
just
fell
off
the
work
plan
in
in
that
transcription
process
when
it
when
it
got
Rewritten
and
I
just
I,
wanted
an
opportunity
to
double
check
and
make
sure
that
hasn't
happened.
This
time
and
I
I
haven't
been
able
to
do
that.
G
E
I
G
C
G
E
A
A
G
A
Just
a
second
I
gotta
pull
mine
up,
I,
don't
have
two
screens
here,
it's
the
other
thing.
That's
you
want,
Rachel
does
Rachel
have
one
no
I've
got
them.
I
pulled
them
up
on
my
phone
before
we
started
so
I
just
had
to
get
my
phone
to
wake
back
up,
so
we
had
a
weed,
Management
Area
meeting
a
week
or
so
ago.
A
A
So
I'm
I
asked
her
about
getting
a
presentation
for
this
committee
and
since
we're
going
to
be
working
with
them
on
the
the
Frog
work,
she
thought
we
might
be
able
to
work
that
in
they
were
also
re-adopting,
the
or
reassigning
their
steering
committee.
They
do
have
a
role
for
urban
organization
or
Urban
advocacy.
A
A
A
Yeah,
it
was
Candace,
I
was
not
gonna,
remember
her
name
but
I'm
glad
and
then
the
one
other
thing
that
I
thought
was
really
interesting.
They
had
applied
for
grant
funding
for
a
burn
box
to
be
located
in
the
county
and
they
they
didn't
get
the
funding.
But
there
was
a
conversation
with
somebody
from
state
parks
that
they
use
one
and
they
recently
acquired
it
and
expect
to
be
able
to
be
used
for
other
agencies
properties
in
the
future.
A
Once
they
kind
of
figure
out
the
logistics,
it
may
be
used
in
Burley,
Murray
Park
down
in
Half
Moon
Bay
relatively
soon,
and
if
so,
they
may
be,
inviting
WMA
members
or
or
potentially
others
to
see
it
in
action.
So
that
was
a
kind
of
cool
thing.
What
they're
going
to
be
able
to
do
with
invasives
that
are
removed?
A
You
probably
saw
this
in
the
blast
last
week,
but
I
wanted
to
also
provide
an
EV
charging
update
construction
at
City.
Hall
is
underway.
Now
we
started
on
Monday
morning
for
the
installation
of
10
level,
2
Chargers
here
seven
of
them
will
be
for
the
public
and
three
of
them
are
for
the
police
department's
future
Fleet
needs
after
they
are
almost
complete
here.
They'll
move
up
to
Mission
blue,
so
that
work
should
start
on
February
3rd
pen.
A
A
So
that's
the
good
news
that
project
has
been
in
the
works
for
I,
don't
like
three
years
or
something
I
think
so
I'm
glad
they
finally
broke
ground.
The
bad
news
is
that
the
Brisbane
Village
fast
charger
is
out
of
service
until
we
can
find
a
able,
until
we're
able
to
basically
coordinate
and
fund
a
replacement.
A
A
So
we
are
going
to
just
look
for
options
to
try
to
get
it
replaced
and,
unfortunately,
so
far,
all
of
the
grants
that
are
out
there
only
fund
new
Chargers.
So
I've
already
had
some
conversations
with
some
folks
at
pce
who
reached
out
to
me
to
ask
about
it
when
they
saw
our
news
in
the
blast
and
said
you
know,
if
you
guys
are
looking
at
new
EV
funding
programs
in
the
future.
A
F
D
E
A
G
A
C
A
Oops
all
right,
I,
think
my
last
update-
or
the
last
thing
I
had
put
on
my
list
anyway,
was
that
you
may
recall
that
we've
done
a
few
City
facility
heat
pump
water
heaters
through
the
energy
Watch
program,
and
that
program
is
continuing.
They
just
I
think
renewed
it.
So
they
reached
out
to
us
to
ask
if
we
had
any
new
locations.
A
No,
we
did
look
at
the
the
pool
water
heater
that
serves
the
showers
as
another
potential,
one
that
we
looked
at
today
and
they
need
to
do
a
little
work
to
see
if
that
will
meet
their
program
requirements
and
will
be
something
we'll
be
able
to
move
forward
with.
But
but
that
was
the
other
site
that
we
looked
at.
E
K
K
And
this
will
be
the
first
time
that,
in
addition
to
that
report,
they
will
also
have
to
show
that
their
building
is
high,
performing
or
contract
with
an
auditor
to
do
a
comprehensive
audit
of
all
of
their
all
of
their
Building
Systems
and
then
make
a
plan
for
what
they're
going
to
retrofit
or
or
improve
so
we're
in
the
planning
stages.
For
that,
and
then
that
first
deadline
for
this
batch
of
commercial
buildings
will
be
coming
up
in
May.
K
F
K
K
We
either
know
that
no,
they
were
not
performing
as
of
their
last
report
or
we
don't
have
enough
information,
because
their
building
type
doesn't
qualify
for
a
an
energy
star
score.
So
we
will
have
to
do
some
sort
of
individualized
assessment
of
whether
they
meet
the
performance
standard
or
not,
and
then
also
in
terms
of
the
building
improvements
that
they'll
have
to
do.
There's
we
have
a
list,
that's
pre-approved
of
what
measures
they
will
be
allowed
to
take
to
show
that
they're
making
improvements
to
their
building.
K
F
K
K
A
A
A
E
B
E
A
A
I
have
a
possible
suggestion
here.
The
climate
action
plan
subcommittee
has
generally
in
recent
times
at
least
only
met
when
we
were
working
on
a
specific
project
like
reach
codes.
Do
we
need
to
have
a
standing
climate
action
plan
subcommittee
at
this
point?
Should
we
perhaps
instead
have
an
ad
hoc
reach
code
subcommittee
that
can
disband
when
we
are
done
with
reach
codes,
and
if
we
get
to
that
trigger
point
of
being
able
to
work
on
a
climate
action
plan
subcommittee,
then
we
reconstitute
a
climate
action
plan
subcommittee.
F
G
A
I
H
E
G
I
E
E
E
G
H
F
G
G
B
A
C
D
Have
I
have
I
got
an
email
from
Joe
Condon,
the
and
Barbara
I
actually
emailed
you
but
I
emailed
to
your
personal
address.
Yeah
yeah
I
got
that
you
got
it
okay,
good,
so
bottom
line.
The
judges
night
is
February
the
13th
from
six
to
eight
and
evening,
and
then
the
science
Fahrenheit
is
on
the
16th
of
February,
from
six
to
eight,
so
Barbara
I'm,
assuming
you're
planning
on
going
up
to
judges,
night
and
I.
D
G
G
Okay,
oh
okay,
I
spaced
on
that
one.
So
the
the
consultant
presented
three
different
plans:
I
have
a
very
strong
personal
preference
for
one
of
them,
but
I'm
sure,
whatever
ends
up
happening
will
will
end
up
being
a
mishmash
of
all
three.
As
everybody
understands,
one
thing
I
brought
forward
is
I
just
wanted
to
push
them
even
further
for
for
layered
usages.
G
You
know,
land
is
so
precious
and
are
are
so
much
of
our
footprint
is
externalized
I'm,
always
trying
to
figure
out
more
ways.
We
can,
you
know,
make
make
one
piece
of
land
serve
three
and
six
and
ten
purposes.
So
a
little
bit
of
conversation
happened
around
that
they.
There
was
some
concerns
about
the
prices.
For
these
things,
the.
G
It
was
too
far
out
for
them
to
have
a
really
strong
sense
of
you
know.
How
much
is
these
things
are
going
to
cost
and
especially,
and
also
how
much
they're
going
to
cost
relative
to
each
other,
but
they
they
threw
out
some
Ball
parking
numbers
there
and
I
was
trying
to
remember
how
much
money
we
had
in
that
fund
vis-a-vis.
G
We
didn't
they
I,
don't
remember
how
much
isn't
that
fun
and
how
much
it's
gotten
spent
on,
because
some
has
been
spent
on
other
things
and
I
was
like.
We
may
regret
that,
because
the
the
price
tags
were
handsome,
as
as
they
want
to
be
when
you're
doing
trying
to
do
like
a
world-class
project,
but
it's
going
to
be
coming
out
to
the
public
soon.
G
G
A
D
I
F
F
E
F
A
That's
all
I
did
find
that
on
the
city's
website.
The
meeting
of
the
workshop
is
coming
up
very
soon.
In
fact:
January
31st
5
to
7
P.M
here
in
the
community
meeting
room,
the
city's
consultant
is
CMG
and
they
will
be
presenting
three
concept
plans
and
there
will
be
an
opportunity
to
provide
input
online
that
will
go,
live
the
week
of
January
30th
to
align
with
the
workshop.
So
you
could
look
for
that.
G
Yeah
all
the
plans
and
included
Wetland
restoration
I
think
there
was
one
that
was
I'm
trying
to
remember
in
my
little
brain
here,
I've
got
a
picture,
I
think
there's
one
that
was
much
more
focused
on
Wetlands
but
yeah.
If
that's
feedback,
you
want
to
give
give
them
that
feedback,
because
it's,
but
it's
definitely
on
their
on
their
plate.
Yeah.
C
G
F
C
B
A
Okay
calendar
big
thing
on
the
calendar
is
planting
day
on
the
fourth
assuming
the
weather
sticks
with
us.
We
had
originally
planned
to
be
in
Buckeye
Canyon,
but
that
is
not
on
the
table
right
now,
so
we
will
be
up
the
Northeast
Ridge
meeting
the
end
of
checkerspot
I
believe
if
I'm,
remembering
right
and
yeah
should
be
a
lovely
time,
come
out
and
join
us
most
of
the
other
things
on
this
calendar
at
this
point
are
pretty
tentative.
A
A
E
E
A
It's
on
the
mount
there's
a
sign
up
page
on
the
mountain
watch
website.
Thank
you
should
be
going
out
in
the
star
and
I
can't
remember.
If
I
saw
it
in
the
most
recent
blast,
but
Caroline
does
have
it
so
I'll
make
sure
that
we
get
it
out
this
week,
I
didn't
see
it
in
a
blast,
I
didn't
either
I
thought
it
would
be
there,
though,
so
we'll
make
sure
it
is
in
the
next
one.
Thank.