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A. Minutes of September 28, 2022
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00:08:10 B. Discuss Invasive Species Ordinance proposal
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A
D
Oh,
my
God
I
can't
think
of
his
last
name.
Nelson,
sorry
and
it
is
absolutely
stunningly
beautiful.
We
got
a
preview.
A
preview
copy
that
day
in
the
park
tickets
are
forty
dollars
or
75.
If
you
wanted
to
include
an
autographed
book,
the
book
retails
for
55
and
there
will
be
hors
d'oeuvres
and
desserts
and
no
host
cocktails
and
bar,
and
there
will
be
some
lectures
and
talks
and
some
tables
to
look
at
stuff
and
buy
stuff,
and
it's
going
to
be
awesome.
D
D
A
B
F
G
C
G
Everything
needs
to
be
cleared
from
a
site,
or
you
have
to
clear
a
perimeter
around
your
property
line.
We
also
discussed
a
little
bit
deadheading
plants
that
go
to
seed
and
can
spread,
but
that
got
a
little
bit
wonky
I'll,
let
you
guys
elaborate
on
that,
so
we
came
up
with
12
or
13
that
were
considered
to
be
the
worst
in
our
area.
G
The
committee
also
consulted
with
Ariel
at
Mountain
watch,
who
passed
on
a
list
for
the
hcp
and
Shauna,
took
a
look
and
had
a
list
of
things
that,
in
the
Horticulture
or
Community
are
the
biggest
or
maybe
all,
of
the
concerns
in
the
area,
and
we
met
again
and
considered
those
and
came
up
with
a
list
that
we
wanted
to
show
to
the
full
committee.
I
did
tell
the
subcommittee
that
I'd
gotten
some
feedback
from
planning
and
I
hadn't
got
to
put
that
in
an
email.
So
I
can
talk
about
that.
G
E
E
E
Writing
anything
else
up,
and
then
we
also
wrote
that
paragraph
you
see
at
the
top,
which
we
imagine
could
be
included
in
some
ordinance.
Alongside
the
ordinance
we
imagine
there
would
be
a
lot
of
educational
materials
that
would
be
different,
but
ordinance
you
know,
keep
it
simple
was
the
way
we
kind
of
envisioned.
This
should
should
go
the
list
we
got
from
Ariel,
which
is
a
San
Mateo.
E
County
list
had
probably
60
species
on
it,
and
then
we
had
probably
15
or
20
more
from
Shauna,
but
we
knew
that
if
we
put
60
species
on
a
list
it
would
immediately
just
be
glazed
over,
and
so
the
committee
worked
pretty
hard
to
figure
out
what
we
see
the
most
of
and
kind
of
what
we
thought
were
priorities,
so
I
think
I
think
that's
probably
enough
to
say
open
for
discussion.
If
you
guys
have
any
questions,
Glenn
or
Jason,
do
you
guys
have
anything
to
add.
F
C
I
would
just
add
that
I
was
a
strong
voice
for
keeping
it
as
clean
as
possible.
Einstein
used
to
say
things
should
be
as
simple
as
possible,
but
no
simpler
and
for
it
to
allow
the
list
to
just
sprawl
to
anything
that
might
possibly
be
bad
was
was
going
to
mean
an
ordinance
that
would
have
no
teeth
and
and
would
be
ignored.
And
if
you
see
something
like
Marigold
on
that
list,
people
are
going
to
be
like
forget
it.
You
know
harmless
little
Marigold.
C
H
H
The
one
thing
that
is
new
to
me
from
back
when
I
was
on
this
Committee
in
the
Dark
Ages
is
I.
Think
I
started
with
a
two
foot
perimeter
around
all
the
property
lines
and
and
I
feel
better
about
two
foot
than
one
foot,
because
you
know
I
know
that,
like
the
Himalayan
blackberries,
those
things
can
grow
a
foot
in
a
weekend
and
Ivy
too.
Some
of
these
things
are
really
aggressive.
So
I'm
I'm
wondering
about
the
the
choice
to
Move
It
from
two
foot
perimeter
to
one
foot
perimeter.
D
B
D
D
Baileyana
Bailey's
Acacia,
however,
eucalyptus
is
gonna,
be
I,
mean
that's
a
little
bit
hard
because
there's
603
different
species
at
least
of
eucalyptus,
the
ones
that
are
most
obnoxious
for
us
of
course,
is
eucalyptus
globulus
in
probably
the
red
gum
as
well,
but
so
just
saying
any
might
be
just
too
open,
because
I
think
some
of
the
even
Street
trees
that
the
city
has
on
their
list
may
come
under
eucalyptus.
I,
don't
know,
and
there
are
some
that
are
planted
in
the
Northeast
Ridge
Development.
D
D
So
I
don't
know
if
we
can
amend
it
to
include
that,
because
Ivy
gets
going
so
fast
and
and
will
just
absolutely
take
over
and
it's
better
to
have
it
a
good
three
feet
from
you
know
like
native
habitat,
but
otherwise
I
think
this
is
a
really
good
type
list
and
so
I
appreciate
I
really
appreciate
the
work
that
you've
done
on
these
are
all
these
are
all
bad
except
I,
don't
know
what
bugle
is
but
I'll.
Look
it
up.
B
B
B
Oh
nice
and
I
I
agree
with
Michelle,
maybe
on
the
acacias.
You
should
focus
on
the
ones
that
are
are
more
in
the
trade
there's.
Some
small
ones
that
are
are
absolutely
in
the
garden
trade,
the
little
cousin
it
and
I.
Don't
think
it's
between
it's
actually
kind
of
tender
and
it's
hard
to
can't
imagine
anything.
A
B
E
F
I
was
just
going
to
say
about
eucalyptus
eucalyptus,
we're
not
requiring
removal,
we're
just
discouraging
people
from
planning
it
and
the
same
thing
with
Acacia
and
and
the
reason
for
for
not
specifying
too
closely
is
that
most
ordinary
people
do
not
go
to
a
nursery
asking
for
a
specific
species
of
Acacia
or
a
specific
species
of
Eucalyptus.
In
fact
we're
lucky.
You
know
that
probably
a
lot
of
people
go
saying,
I
want
a
tree,
and
so
part
of
the
idea
of
keeping.
F
Don't
seem
to
be
very
well
informed
about
this,
so
if
we
tell
them,
you
know,
Acacia
is
in
eucalyptus,
are
on
the
bad
guys
list
and
Ivy
is
on
the
bad
guys
list
and
scabiosa
there's
at
least
one
hybrid
scaviosa
that
doesn't
seem
to
be
invasive
because
it
doesn't
seem
to
reproduce
outside
of
you
know
a
facility
for
that
keeping
it
simple
seemed
to
us
the
right
strategy,
and
that
means
maybe
a
more
sweeping
disparaging
species
that
probably
have
a
lot
of
variation.
In
terms
of
their,
you
know,
particular
varieties
of.
C
I
was
I
next
yeah
sure
yeah
great.
How
about
because
I'm
all
about
compromise
and
all
about
Simplicity
I
didn't
know
about
the
two
foot
from
the
past
and
someone
else
put
the
one
foot
thought
it
sounded
good.
But
what
what
about
two
feet
everywhere,
rather
than
having
a
complicated
thing?
How
about
two
feet
everywhere,
because
I'm
with
Barbara
that
Blackberry
can
buy
in
a
weekend
you
can,
you
can
just
see
it
across
the
sidewalk.
You
know
what,
if
would
that
be
onerous?
Two
foot
everywhere
my
idea.
B
D
D
I,
don't
the
bugle
I
looked
at
it
and
I
I'm,
not
recognizing
it
as
being
anything
I've
seen
up
on
the
mountain,
but
maybe
it
is
and
I
don't
know
that
we
really
need
to
add
the
I
want
to
keep
it
simple.
So
I
don't
know
that
we
really
need
to
add
the
pyrocantha,
because
I
haven't
really
have.
We
has
anybody
else
seen
pyracuse
up
on
the
mountain.
D
B
B
I
F
F
D
F
D
Let's,
let's
wait
and
see
what
we
get
if
we
can
get
this
through
with
them.
Maybe
we
could
add
a
couple
of
other
things
to
the
list
like
one
of
the
things
I'm
very
concerned
about
is
class
of
Flora
jamesoni.
It's
the
the
Orange
passion
vine.
That
stuff
is
like
California
food
soup
and
it
takes
off
all
over
the
place.
D
I
had
a
friend
who
planted
one
one
gallon
pot
and
within
10
years
it
had
run
all
over
the
whole
neighborhood
and
up.
You
know,
50
feet
up
two
trees
and
everything
else,
so
that
is
really
the
one
that
would
be
on
the
list,
for
me,
is
any
passive
Flora
James,
Sony
eye
and
I
recently
saw
it
at
somebody's
yard
when
I
was
walking
and
it
was
taking
over
everything.
There's.
B
I
B
B
B
D
B
D
C
E
D
E
C
E
A
B
C
E
D
G
Oh
I
talked
to
planning
staff-
oh
okay,
and
it
like
wasn't
a
formal
position,
so
it
was
just
kind
of
a
conversation
that
the
for
them
that
do
not
plant
is
easily
accomplished
for
any
new
projects
right,
so
they
you
know
they
review
Landscaping
or
replacement
landscaping
for
water
efficiency.
Those
are
those
are
easy
to
prohibit
invasives
on
any
list
challenging.
Let
me
see
my
notes
challenging
to
implement
for
existing
development
and
not
not
through
the
building
permit
process.
G
So
what
they're
kind
of
saying
is,
it
would
probably
have
to
be
something
like
buy
our
wheat
abatement
where
properties
are
systematically
inspected
owners
given
notice
to
Abate-
and
that's
you
know,
that's
a
resource
need
that
we
would
have
to
present
to
the
council
policy
question
for
the
council
and
then
it
was
you
know
they
suggested
education
and
resources
to
help
Property
Owners
make
smart
Landscaping
choices.
We've
been
doing
that
you
know.
That's
people,
don't
always
listen
to
that
when
we.
G
Obviously
we
do
a
lot
of
Education
stuff
and
we
don't
always
hear
back
from
people
and
they
were
they
weren't
sure
yeah
had
we
picked
the
ones
that
were
most
noxious
or
harmful
here,
which
I
said
yes
and
I
I
said
I
thought
we
would
probably
want
to
have
more
follow-up
with
planning
stuff.
Based
on
that
there.
F
D
That's
going
to
be
a
little
bit
hard,
but
it's
really
essential.
I
see
so
many
of
our
native
Oaks
that
are
on
private
property.
Now
that
are
being
choked
to
death
and
ones
on
public
property,
too,
being
choked
to
death
by
ivy
and
I.
I.
Think
that
if
we're
going
to
have
an
invasive
species
ordinance
to
protect
the
habitat,
that
is
part
of
what
should
be
protected.
H
Yeah
I
mean
Michelle,
also
kind
of
covered
a
lot
of
it.
I
was
also
going
to
say.
Maybe
we
could
just
put
it
like
the
last
line
on
the
table
or
I
mean
Aaron
cover.
Two
last
line
on
the
table
says
you
know:
no
plan
is
allowed
to
grow
up
into
a
tree
that
must
remove
it
and
that's
that
and
then
I
was
just
curious
about
gorse.
E
G
So
I
think
we
did
a
little
bit
and
on
the
city
side,
I
think
it's
I
think
it's
going
to
have
to
do
with.
You
know
we'll
be
bringing
this
to
council
I'm
supposed
to
get
that
estimate.
Let's
say
just
picking
a
wild
number,
it's
going
to
cost
the
city
100
000,
to
remove
all
of
the
you
know:
I,
don't
even
know
if
that's
the
right
order,
magnitude
or
not
maybe
it's
low,
even
Crocker
Trail
is
a
couple
miles
long.
G
Let's
say
it's
a
couple
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
Council
says
we
want
to
do
that
over
x,
four
years,
I
suggested
a
different
time
period
for
this
ordinance.
We
know
we've
done
that
in
other
cases,
these
ordinances
don't
apply
to
us
or
they
apply
in
a
different
time
period,
sometimes
more
aggressive,
sometimes
less
I
suggested
that
we
pick
a
time
period
for
residences,
because
most
people
are
well.
G
E
So
I'm
going
to
throw
out
something
and
I'm
sorry
we
should
have
covered
this
in
subcommittee,
but
I
didn't
think
about
it.
Then
what
if
we
did
developed
properties
versus
trails
and
undeveloped
properties
as
the
two
timelines
for
compliance
or
or
something
different
than
that?
So
it's
you
know.
Residences
and
businesses
have
a
short
timeline
and
then
trails
and.
G
E
B
B
D
G
Could
basically
outside
of
sorry
outside
of
the
ordinance?
There
are
ways
to
try
to
accomplish
that,
especially
if
you
guys
are
doing
volunteer
efforts
with
you
have
a
tarp
or
something,
and
you
want
to
make
a
pile
and
have
us
pick
it
up
there.
There
are
other
ways
to
do
that
outside
of
having
an
ordinance.
F
A
Okay
can
I
just
quickly
I
don't
have
details,
but
I
do
believe.
There
was
an
or
some
projects
getting
lined
up
to
address
the
various
problem
areas
for
pompous
grass.
I
know
there
were
some
that
were
on
the
coast,
project
I,
think
that
was
lined
up
first
and
then,
like
the
next
one,
I'm
pretty
sure
San
Bruno
Mountain
was
on
was
on
that
list
and
I
that's
been
a
long
time
since
I.
A
D
A
D
Yeah
the
link,
that's
what
I
mean
so
that
Glenn
you
can
address
that
issue
directly
to
the
natural
resource
manager,
who
is
Evan
Cole
and
the
resource
management
team
and
that's
a
place
to
you
know
this
week.
You
will
get
the
grease,
and
so,
if
we
want
the
county
to
take
care
of
that,
we
need
to
say
so.
I.
D
D
Because
if
you
have
a
single
family,
you
know
5
000
square
foot
lot.
You
should
be
able
to
get
that
done
in
a
year
if
you've
got
an
acre,
a
vacant
anchor
or
two
acres,
that's
a
little
bit
harder.
You
know
and
it's
going
to
require
pot.
If
it's
broom
it's
going
to
require
some.
You
know
concerted
effort
to
keep
it
at
Advance,
but
the
broom
is
really
important
because
it
is
one
of
the
biggest
fire
hazards
we
have
between
Brisbane
town
and
the
mountain
in
the
interface.
So.
F
Yeah
I
was
just
going
to
say
this.
That
makes
me
think
again
about
gorse.
We
didn't
add
gorse
to
this
list,
partly
because
nobody
plants
course
anymore.
Most
of
the
course
that's
around
is
Legacy
course
from
a
long
time
ago,
but
there
are
the
odd
gorse
plants
on
city-owned
properties.
So
maybe
it
should
go
back
on
the
list
as
a
must
remove,
but
anyway,
that's
why
it's
not
on
there
in
the
first
place,
we're
just
thinking
nobody
plants
worse
right.
D
Yes,
that
fire
that
happened,
that
was
really
bad.
That
day,
that
was
behind
up
at
the
end
of
West
Hill
behind
Emily,
that
was
gorse
that
burned
and
there's
still
a
whole
bunch
more
and
this
stuff
is
just
a
freaking
torch,
and
so,
of
course
nobody
planted
it.
But
if
it
starts
growing
on
your
property,
you
should
be
responsible
to
remove
it.
Yeah.
D
C
B
E
C
H
C
These
we're
calling
these
things
out,
we're
not
judging
them
and
ranking
them
here.
It's
just
we're
saying
that
you
know
these
are
the
things
don't
plant
these
things
must
remove
so
I
I
understand
you
feel
strongly
about
some
of
them,
but
it's
I
again,
that'll.
Add
a
third
dimension
to
this.
That
I
think
is
just
going
to
be
nutty.
B
But
what
I
was
saying
is:
like
nobody,
plants,
fennel
anymore,
I
mean
I
I,
don't
know
anybody
who
actually
plants
fennel,
it's
just
there
and
it's
it's
so
you
know
I,
don't
think
really.
People
are
planting,
Cherry
plums,
but
they
are
there
in
the
environment
and
people
are
trying
to
get
rid
of
them.
Nobody's
planting
how
Molly
and
blackberries
and
I
mean
there
are
plenty
of
other
smaller
than
native
blackberries,
that
people
can
plant
and
they
can
plant
them
in
a
contained
environment.
B
So
if
you,
if
you
really
want
to
do
this,
for
the
people
who
are
working
in
the
garden
you've
got
to
put
in
the
plants
that
people
are
actually
planting,
I
mean
you
want.
You
want
to
get
rid
of
the
things
that
are
that
are
already
there,
but,
like
I
said
people,
people
are
planting,
scabiosis
people
are
planting
for
Cosmic
people
are
planting,
some
of
the
or
the
ice
plants,
the
IVs,
but
people
for
the
most
part.
They
aren't.
C
We're
if
I
could
just
jump
in
to
say
maybe
we're
differentiating
between
education
and
how
we
approach
talking
to
people,
and
this
is
a
law
or
an
ordinance.
You
know-
and
this
is
just
kind
of
spelling
it
out-
I
know
people
are
you
know
what
I'm
saying
that
the
way
we
approach
education
with
a
pamphlet
or
a
webinar
or
whatever
is
going
to
be
different
than
this
is
just
you
know,
spelling
out.
What's
what
you
know
and
and
maybe
that's
for
the
education
communication
portion
of
it.
B
D
Business,
actually,
there
are
a
couple,
I
just
happen
to
look
and
see
that
I
have
this.
This
is
the
document
that
we
put
together
a
while
ago,
published
by
Elena
and
Arthur
and
Elena
Court
in
the
nature
watch
Conservancy
in
the
city
of
Brisbane
and
some
of
the
plants
that
are
listed
in
here
that
we
didn't
yet
was
curly
dog,
which
is
rumix
and.
D
C
D
A
Sounds
like
we're
ready
to
on
then
our
new
business
was
the
letter
supporting
Janna
dilworth's
inquiries.
I
have
Glenn,
probably
talk
about
the
letter
itself
and
I.
Have
the
text
on
the
next
screen,
but
I
did
want
to
know.
I
think
there
might
have
been
a
little
bit
of
confusion
on
who
the
letter
should
be
coming
from.
A
F
This
is
based
on
a
comment
from
Dana
Dilworth
that
the
committee
saw
two
months
ago
and
I
apologize.
I
was
a
little
bit
later.
Getting
this
done
than
I
had
expected.
It's
been
a
pretty
busy
semester,
but
I
spoke
with
Danna
before
I.
Did
this
draft
and
Dana
included
a
lot
of
details
in
her
comment
that
I
did
not
include?
F
F
F
Just
you
know
that
that
really
makes
a
plan
considering
all
the
discharge
sites
on
the
bay
lands
that
it
should
be
a
process
that
involves
Community
participation,
that
it
is
based
on
academic
research
and
and
that's
pretty
much.
It
and
I
propose
that
it'd
be
signed
by
the
city
council
because
that's
going
to
carry
more
weight
than
osac.
But
if
we
can't
do
that,
then
osik.
I
D
Yes,
yeah:
go
ahead:
okay,
I
read
it
it's
really
hard
to
read:
the
sentences
are
very
long
and
I
want
it
to
be
red.
So
my
suggestion,
even
though
I'm
not
going
to
change
any
of
the
sentences
but
I
suggest
we
break
this
up
into
smaller
bites
like
paragraphs
and
I,
would
want
a
paragraph.
The
a
new
paragraph
with
while
Debbie
while
we
are
glad,
should
be
the
beginning
of
a
new
paragraph,
and
then
it
would
include
all
discharge
sites
should
be
a
new
paragraph.
D
Unfortunately,
should
start
a
new
paragraph
and
the
comprehensive
process
that
we
believe
is
necessary
should
do
be
a
new
paragraph
and
we
should
be
careful
not
to
make
the
lines
too
wide
and
the
type
big
enough
to
read
Because.
This
is
a
very,
very
different,
difficult
document
to
read,
because
the
sentences
are
long
and
complicated,
but
at
least,
if
we
break
it
up
into
paragraphs
more
paragraphs,
it
seems
more
approachable
and
has
a
higher
likelihood
of
getting
read
and
that's
the
that's.
My
current
suggestion
on
it
and
I
I.
D
Don't
care
who
signs
it,
whether
we
do
or
the
council
I
agree
with
you
Glenn.
It
would
be
more
important
if
the
council
signed
it,
but
we
do
need
to
make
it
more
readable
and
scannable
than
the
letter
that
I
read
this
afternoon
and
the
best
the
fastest
way
that
I
can
see
to
do
that
without
really
wordsmithing.
It
is
to
break
it
up
into
five
paragraphs.
D
E
Actually,
I
am
I
I'm
used
to
reading
long
big
sentences
written
by
scientists,
so
that
didn't
bug
me
as
much
but
I
do
agree
with
Michelle
the
one
thing
that
I
think
is
actually
it's
like
this
is
it's
pretty
easy
to
follow?
What
Glenn
is
saying
which
I
think
is
fantastic,
though
the
two
tiny
knits
I
would
make,
are
taking
out
the
wheez
and
uses
so
that
last
sentence
in
the
first
paragraph?
We
think
that
just
get
rid
of
that
just.
E
H
Can
we
can
we
send
it
to
council
as
a
recommendation
that
they
send
it
on
to
what
the
hell
are?
They
calling
themselves
now
baby
BDI
yeah,
because
I
think
that
I
think
it
already
ought
to
come
from
Council,
but
I
think
you
know
I
think
we
need
to
present
it
to
them
before
they're.
You
know,
I
think
we
need
to
make
the
case
to
them
that
it's
important
before
they'll
present
it
to
BDI.
So.
C
G
B
D
F
G
A
G
G
D
E
I
C
Effectively,
yeah,
that's
what
I
was
thinking
like
we
say.
Yes,
we
all
agree
on
this,
because
really
all
we're
going
to
add
is
just
a
few.
You
know
paragraphs
bring
it
down
and
change
us
and
we
and
it's
this
is
good
to
go
I
think
we
all
agree
to
it,
and
then
we
try
to
get
it
to
council
as
quick
as
we
can
and
say,
hey.
We
strongly
feel
this
way
is
that
my
summarizing
right.
B
D
G
So
when,
when
we
talked
about
the
last
meeting,
the
discussion
was
the
committee
and
then
Glenn
wrote
the
letter
from
Council.
So
we
asked
that
the
staff
level
and
we
were
told
okay
to
send
straight
from
osak.
So
we
didn't
really
pursue
more
because
we
thought
you
know.
This
has
already
been
a
couple
months
on
our
agenda
and
so.
A
J
A
I
B
C
Go
ahead,
Jason
I
moved
that
we
asked
Adrian
to
do
some
minor
edits
and
that
we
agree
that
this
is
a
the
way
osec
feels.
We
agreed
to
this
statement
with
some
minor
edits,
with
paragraphs
and
and
and
to
forward
to
council,
with
our
strong
recommendation
that
they
please
before
that,
with
the
full
force
of
our
recommendation
and
their
approval
on
to
BDI
and.
B
J
C
J
A
All
right,
I
will
start
off.
I
don't
have
to
do
time.
My
first
is
going
to
be
if
you
have
not
set
up
your
city
email.
Yet
the
time
has
come.
We
are
going
to
be
switching
over
to
using
only
City
emails.
It
has
been
a
couple
of
months
of
notice
if
you
need
to
follow
up
with
the
city.
Clerk
I
recommend
you
so
tomorrow.
A
H
Well,
you
know
some
I
love
that
picture,
but
it's
awesome.
It's
a
lot
of
prejudice
for
a
lot
of
people
and
there
are
people
out
there
who
think
that
you
just
can't
be
smart
and
be
a
goth
girl,
so
I'm
not
sure
I
want
that
to
be
yeah
I,
don't
even
want
it
on
my
zoom,
but
Zoom
refuses
to
keep
my
profile
separate.
So
there
you
go
okay,.
A
A
They
are
added.
I
talked
with
the
city
clerk
about
the
proper
protocol
for
how
to
do
this.
They
are
posted
on
the
website.
Reading
page
with
the
agenda
item,
so
they're
not
actually
posted
with
a
minute.
If
you
go
to
the
agenda
where
you
would
see
the
attachment
for
an
individual
item,
they're
added
there
after
the
fact,
okay
I've
got
the
ones
from
last
meeting.
D
D
A
You're
welcome
the
building
efficiency
program.
We
sent
out
some
citations
in
the
last
couple
of
months.
We
are
now
down
to
two
buildings
that
have
not
submitted
their
report
for
last
year,
so
98
and
then
I
think
this
is
my
oh
and
Rachel
and
I
are
also
working
with
Touchstone
IQ
to
get
our
new
software
set
up
and
ready
for
the
Beyond
benchmarking,
so
lots
of
planning
going
on
there
or
making
sure
we
hit
the
ground
running
after
the
new
year
and
then
on
the
EV
charger
front.
A
We
completed
a
change
order
with
the
contractors
who
are
doing
our
public
facilities,
installation
the
grant
funding
for
our
fast
charger
at
City.
Hall
did
not
come
through,
so
we
got
the
funding
for
all
of
the
level
twos,
but
the
fast
charging
grant
were
severely
oversubscribed,
that's
not
coming
through.
So
we
completed
a
change
order
to
go
ahead
and
install
Make
Ready
infrastructure
for
a
future
fast
charger,
while
we're
already
printing
for
the
level
two.
A
So
hopefully
that
will
speed
up
the
process
of
adding
a
fast
charger
later
if
we're
able
to
find
a
different
brand
or
other
funds
to
add
one.
At
a
later,
I
do
not,
however,
have
an
update
on
the
existing
fast
charger
in
town.
They
did.
The
modem
update
it
didn't
fix
the
problem.
I
have
followed
up
with
them
a
couple
of
times
and
and
I
have
no
idea
what
is
going
on
now.
So.
G
Yeah
I
have
a
couple
quite
a
while
back.
The
tree
committee
made
a
list
of
some
street
trees
that
have
been
removed
and
hadn't
been
replaced.
So
I
wanted
to
get
back
to
you
that
those
are
now
starting
to
get
replaced.
I
got
a
report
that
two
of
them
there
were
eight
on
the
list
that
are
in
Central
Brisbane
two
have
been
replaced,
they're
trying
to
do
them
in
this
season,
humble
Tree
Service,
one
of
the
one
of
the
workers.
G
D
G
J
B
A
A
I
was
gonna
note
that
under
calendar
items
that
didn't
come
up
before
I
reached
out
to
Arielle,
he
suggested
February
4th
that
January
is
already
looking
very
busy
on
his
calendar,
so
that
is
kind
of
the
the
first
opportunity
that
we're
both
Jeff
and
I.
So
unless
there's
any
objection,
we'll
be
planning
for
February
4th.
E
A
D
G
D
I
D
D
D
Have
an
update,
yay
yay,
we
have
enough
Faith
Karen.
Thank
you
so
much
for
presenting
to
the
city
council.
It
passed
with
the
we
have
changed
the
criteria
for
an
acre
being
in
the
priority
preservation
area
and
six
new
six
acres
are
now
designated
as
priority
preservation
areas
that
were
not
before,
and
that
makes
them
it
doesn't
change
their.
You
know
ownership
or
anything
like
that
or
what
you
can
do
on
it.
But
what
it
does
do
is
make
those
six
acres
available
to
be
purchased
by
the
city.
D
Should
the
city
have
funds
or
desire
to
do
that
it
makes
them
available
for
purchase
for
for
being
considered
to
be
purchased,
provided
the
property
owner
would
like
to
do
that.
I'd
like
for
us
to
go
ahead
and
send
the
letter
that
we've
sent
to
those
six
acres
owners.
If
we
can
Karen
the
letter
that
you
know
that
we
that
Stuart
sends
the
other
thing
is
is
should
someone
want
to
build
more
than
what's
allowed
on
a
lower
maker,
such
as
the
three
acres
along
Gladys?
D
It
means
that
these
Acres
that
just
got
designated
along
with
all
the
other
ones
that
aren't
City
owned
in
the
priority
preservation
area,
are
now
available
to
be
purchased
and
donated
to
the
city
for
a
density
transfer
consideration,
and
so
this
is
a
great
thing
and
I
know
that
I
just
really
want
to
thank
all
the
hard
work
put
in
by
Mary
Rogers,
Jason,
Noonan
and
Karen
Kinser,
and
to
get
this
done.
This
has
been
on
my
Personal
Agenda
since
the
day
I
joined,
osac
and
I
feel
really
really
happy.
D
C
D
E
E
I
personally
believe
our
work
plan
is
a
little
heavy
and
a
lot
of
us
are
overworked
on
too
many
committees
and
so
I'm
wondering
what
happens
now
to
committees
where,
where
we
have
a
milestone
like
this
and
and
you
know,
it's
staff's
role
to
send
the
Letters
Out
and
update
the
plan
and
whatnot.
But
what
about
the
volunteer?
Oc
group
can
subcommittees,
go
dormant
for
a
while
for
a
few
years,
or
is
there
more
work
to
be
done
right
now.
D
D
Hopefully
the
same
people
or
different
people,
we'll
we'd
like
to
continue
working
through
the
next
section
of
the
open
space
and
ecology
plan,
the
2001,
open
space
plan
and
update
it
and
work
on
the
next
section,
so
we're
taking
it
bite
by
bite
so
that
we
remain
as
an
ad
hoc
subcommittee
that
doesn't
need
to
be
noticed
every
single
time
we
meet
to
kind
of
flesh
out.
What
next
needs
to
be
done
for.
D
Yeah
but
I
don't
know
that
we
need
to
January
February
yeah,
not
too
long,
because
I'm
getting
old
and
I'm
not
going
to
be
here
forever
and
I
want
this
I
want
I
want
to
review
this.
It's
important
to
me
that
we
have
an
open
space
plan
that
reflects
where
we're
gonna
be
in
2030
and
2040
and
not
2001.,
so
it
I
think
it's
very
important.
D
G
You're
still
waiting
to
hear
back
from
the
resource,
Conservation
District,
with
their
proposal
to
give
us
a
plan,
but
in
tandem
we
know
that
and
I've
been
back
out
to
Parker
Trail
scoping
out
the
resurfacing
project.
That's
going
to
happen
next
year
and
still
every
time
I'm
there
Pablo
scales,
they're
working,
so
he's
doing
he's
doing
some
nice
working
Channel
kind
of
despite
our
putting
some
structure
to
it
so
kind
of
moving
forward
a
little
bit
in
both
you
know
from
both
ends.
I
would
say.
D
B
J
H
H
D
So
after
all,
the
Monumental
amount
of
work
that
Barbara
and
and
then
the
committee
Aaron
and
myself
and
I
forget
who
was
on
the
committee
before,
is
we're
reviewing
side
by
side.
The
Malibu
ordinance
with
what
we
had
wanted
in
ours
to
make
sure
we're
covering
everything
and
it
looks
like
it'll-
be
a
lot
easier
to
get
it
enacted
through
the
city
council.
So,
although
it
seemed
like
a
giant
setback
for
all
the
work
that
we
did,
it's
actually
a
giant
step
forward
in
actually
getting
something
implemented.
C
H
It's
disappointing
to
me
because
a
lot
of
staff
complaints
were
not
substantive.
You
know
there
was
a
lot
of
complaints
about
really
trivial
stuff
like
where
are
the
stuff
pertaining
to
signs
landed
and,
and
that
was
like,
never
an
issue.
Nobody
ever
cared
go
ahead
and
put
in
the
sign
organs
you
know
and
and
I
frankly,
I'm
not
super
excited
about
the
Malibu
one.
The
one
that
I
based
on,
which
was
sort
of
Flagstaff,
was
an
award-winning
ordinance
and
Malibu's
ordinance
is
sort
of
like
a
peanut
butter
approach.
H
You
know
it
kind
of
sits,
all
everybody
has
to
have
the
same
stuff
and
it's
kind
of
a
low
bar,
and
you
know
the
problem
with
the
peanut
butter
approach.
Is
it's
it's
great
in
that
it's
simple,
but
it
also
means
that
a
lot
of
special
cases
and
sort
of
outlying
things
just
don't
get
dealt
with
at
all,
and
you
know.
C
F
B
I
B
B
B
D
G
D
Yeah-
and
we
did
the
brochure
the
little
Shauna
did-
the
brochure
for
day
in
the
park
that
we
kind
of
ad
hoc
brochure
that
we
did
and
finalized
that
right
and
then
we
talked
about
the
street
trees
and
the
watering
which
is
now
being
expanded.
So
we
did
a
little
bit
of
yeah.
We
need
to
we're.
We
need
another
meeting
to
move
start
moving
forward
again
with
the
structure
I've.
A
B
One
of
the
things
that,
and
thanks
for
getting
that
brochure
printed
out
for
the
for
the
day
in
the
park,
the
one
thing
I
was
I-
saw
that
people
didn't
pick
it
up
because
it
didn't
I
mean
there
was
a
picture
of
a
three
on
the
front,
but
maybe
it
actually
needs
to
say
freeze
or
what?
What
can
we
do
about
our
street
trees
or
our
trees,
or
something
like
that?
I
H
I
G
A
This
is
2022.
It's,
it's
much
easier
for
me
to
just
start
fresh
with
a
new
year,
so
we've
got
2023
just
on
on
a
new
slide.
So
I
don't
really
have
a
whole
lot
more
to
say
about
1822.
Besides,
for
that,
we'll
have
one
more
meeting
and
I.
Don't
know
if
we'll
be
ready
for
dark
guys
by
then
or
not,
but
if
not,
we
will
figure
something
else
out.
D
B
A
I
will
be
honest,
I
don't
know,
but
I
am
pretty
sure.
I
saw
that
on
Caroline's
list
of
items
in
the
November
star,
it's
really
promoted
there
and
in
the
black
I.
Don't
know
that
I
recall
seeing
it
in
the
most
recent
last,
but
but
coming
up
I
would
expect
it
in
there
soon.
Aaron
did
you
say
it
was
the
weekend
of
November
4th.