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Okay,
so
if
it's
okay
with
you
Davey,
if
you're
all
set,
maybe
you
can
just
give
us
a
little
summary
of
what
was
discussed
on
Monday
evening
at
the
parks
department
meeting
and
afterwards
we'll
have
time
for
questions
and
answers
session
amongst
the
community
that
is
present
this
evening.
So
you
can
take
it
away.
Davey.
G
G
So
my
name
is
Davey
Ives
I'm,
the
chief
of
staff
for
operations,
I
see
a
number
of
familiar
faces
from
the
call
on
Monday,
so
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
again
to
everybody
that
that
made
it
for
to
that
meeting
and
that
was
able
to
organize
and
and
get
other
people
to
attend.
We
had
about
190
people
sign
up
for
that
meeting
and
I.
Think
I,
don't
remember
what
the
exact
Peak
turnout
was,
but
it
was
about
I
think
over
a
hundred
people.
So
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
that.
G
As
far
as
this
project
goes,
we're
we're
really
excited
to
work
with
you,
you
all
and
the
Community
member.
Thank
you.
112
people,
I
think,
is
what
we
picked
up.
Thank
you
Joanne.
So
you
know
I
think
this
is
a
complicated
site.
I
think
I,
don't
think
I
need
to
say
that
I
think
everyone
is
well
well
aware
of
that,
and
you
know
we
are
the
parks
department
and
we're
going
to
be
doing
our
best
to
try
to
meet
the
community's
expectations
and
and
try
to
help.
G
You
know
develop
these
ideas
in
partnership
with
the
with
the
community,
whether
it's
the
task
force
or
a
coalition
or
or
any
other
groups
of
the
community.
So
we
we
just
want
to
get
as
much
feedback
and
and
as
much
information
to
our
design
team
as
possible
so
that
they
can
really
make
a
site.
That
is
something
that
the
community
is
going
to
feel
proud
to
call
their
own
and
that
people
are
going
to
really
want
to
take
ownership.
G
And
you
know
this
is
ultimately
the
community's
land
and
and
we're
just
kind
of
stewards
of
it.
So
it's
our
responsibility
to
listen
to
everybody
and
to
acknowledge
the
past
and
and
what's
happened
before
us
and
what
will
happen
in
the
future
so
just
getting
into
specifically
what
happened?
What
what
where
we
are
in
the
process?
G
I,
don't
think
I
have
to
talk
about
the
the.
What
what
happened
prior
to
the
site
becoming
a
park
so
as
far
as
the
last
Administration
goes,
but
you
know
officially
now
this
site
is,
has
been
turned
over
to
the
parks
department,
so
it
is
Parks
land.
It
is
protected
by
you,
know,
state
and
local
laws
that
preserve
it
as
Parks
land,
so
will
not
be
developed
into
any
sort
of
building.
G
So
you
know,
as
part
of
that
we
we
had
a
kickoff
meeting
on
Monday
to
start
the
official
Parks
process,
acknowledging
that
there
was
a
whole
HPD
process
before
us,
and
there
was
other
other
studies
over
the
years.
So
Monday
night
kicked
off
the
The
Parks
process,
we're
coming
here
tonight
to
to
to
listen
more
about
feedback.
For
you
know
what
the
community
would
like
to
do
with
this,
this
very
important
burial,
ground
site.
G
It
is
a
burial
ground
and
we
want
to
be
respectful
through
this
process.
So
we
at
the
parks
department
are
still
figuring
out
what
the
what
the
Outreach
will
formally
look
like,
where
we
plan
on
having
a
couple
more
sessions,
acknowledging
that
this
burial
ground
is
is
different
than
most
of
the
park
sites.
That
we
go
through
with
the
capital
project,
it
is
a
burial
ground,
so
it
needs
a
little
bit
more
care.
G
We're
going
to
roll
out
a
plan
to
table
and
B
have
some
sort
of
presence
in
the
park.
So
we
just
want
to
start
the
dialogue
as
part
of
the
parks
process
for
how
we
can
work
with
the
task
force
work
with
other
community
groups
on
how
to
make
this
burial
ground
really
something
that
the
the
Community
is
proud
of.
I
I
feel
like
I'm.
The
last
thing
I
want
to
say
about
this
project.
Is
you
know
this?
G
Is
the
parks
has
been
given
the
mission
to
to
start
to
create
something
on
the
site,
and
so
you
know
we're
charged
with
getting
feedback
from
the
community
and
then
give
it
to
our
professional
designers.
That
will
be
able
to
do
something
that's
respectful,
and
that
is
something
that
the
community
again
feels
proud
of.
G
H
G
I
Great,
thank
you.
So
you
know
we're
gonna
just
go
ahead
and
and
keep
that
conversation
going
about
process.
I
just
want
to
mention
just
a
note
that
was
put
in
the
chat
and
I
know.
This
came
up
on
Monday
evening
a
lot,
but
if
we
can
all
try
to
not
call
it
a
site,
even
though
that
is
a
technical
word,
that
we
use
to
talk
about
any
location,
but
a
lot
of
people
Express
that
we
should
give
this
particular
site.
It's
due
reverence.
I
So
if
we
can
call
it
the
African
burial
ground,
maybe
we
can
just
start
calling
it
The
fabg.
You
know
if
that's
any
easier
on
the
tongue,
but
let's
all
try
to
be
Mindful
and
I
know.
You
know
the
word
sight
comes
in
like
you
know,
it's
easy
to
come
off
of
the
tongue,
because
it's
just
a
word
that
we
use
but
go.
G
So
I
want
to
say
thank
you
for
for
responding
and
holding
us
accountable
and
that's
you
know,
that's
an
important
part
of
your
role
as
organizers
and
community
members,
so
yeah
I
think
you
know
remaining
a
reminder
that
it
is
a
burial
ground
and
you
know
I
know
and
we
went
into
breakout
rooms.
That
was
part
of
Monday's
meeting.
G
You
know,
and
some
I
just
I
hope
that
each
facilitator
allowed
people
to
be
heard.
I
know
that
you
know
we
are
people
from
all
over
the
parks
department
and
you
know
there
are
better
facilitators
and
and
some
facilitators
or
not
you
know
we
have
expert
facilitators
and,
and
some
that
are
not
as
good.
So
you
know
we're
trying
to
work
with
what
we
have
here
at
the
parks
department.
G
We
are
wearing
a
number
of
different
hats,
so
we're
not
professional
full-time
facilitators,
so
please
bear
with
us.
You
know
we
are
going
to
stumble
through
some
things
and
we're
going
to
rely
on
you.
The
community
members
to
hold
us
accountable,
so
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
that
and
I
want
to
apologize
for.
You
know
for,
for
referring
to
it,
not
as.
I
I
I
You
know
about
what
type
of
flowers
you
want
to
be
planted,
or
you
know
what
kind
of
you
know
signage
that
you
want,
but
it's
to
really
sort
of
kick
us
off
with
having
this
these
conversations
with
the
parks
department,
as
well
as
the
council
member's
office,
so
that
the
community
can
really
feel
like
you
know.
We
are
all
involved
in
this
process.
I
So
if
you
can
keep
your
comments
to
a
sort
of
General
things
that
will
you
know
sort
of
kick
us
off
on
this
journey
and
then,
as
we
go
along
through
this
entire
process,
which
I
don't
know
if
parks
department
hasn't,
you
know
a
sort
of
idea
about
schedule.
Schedule
on
this,
that
you
have
or
a
preliminary
schedule,
but
as
we
go
along,
you
know,
of
course
we
can
more
so
get
into
details,
especially
if
there
are
Community
engagement
in
community
outreach.
I
We
ask
that
you
raise
your
hand
by
using
the
raised
hand,
feature
on
the
WebEx
that
way
we
can
get
to
everybody's
comment,
or
you
can
put
your
comments
into
the
chat
and
we'll
address
the
chat,
comments,
slash
questions
as
we
go
along
so
so
again.
I
just
want
to
reiterate
that
we're
going
to
be
dealing
with
this
is
going
to
be
a
conversation
about
the
process.
I
So
let's
try
to
keep
our
questions
about
the
big
picture
of
the
African
burial
ground
and
let's
not
get
too
much
into
the
weeds.
So
if
you
have
a
question
or
comment
that
you
want
to
kick
us
off
with,
please
use
the
raise
hand
feature
or
you
can
type
in
the
chat
I
will
go
with.
I
saw
Dwayne,
Joseph
who's.
The
co-chair
of
this
cb14
task
force
I,
saw
your
hand
up
first
and
then
I'll
go
to
the
Corazon.
F
G
Yeah
I
can
I
can
I
can
try
my
best
and
I
think
you
know.
We've
had
conversations
with
commissioner
Marr,
commissioner
Mars
spoken
to
the
council
member
I've
spoken
to
the
council
member.
You
know
this
is.
Maybe
would
it
be
helpful
for
me
to
just
go
through
our
what
our
standard
process
is
and
then
kind
of
what
we're
thinking
about
adding
on
okay
I
see
some
head
money.
Okay,
great
our
standard
process
is,
you
know
we
rely
on
you
know,
often
times
when
a
park
is
funded
for
Capital
renovation.
G
What
happens?
Is
there
are
groups?
There
are
task
force?
There
are
organizing
parties
that
are
trying
to
sports
leagues,
whatever
they
are
that
are
trying
to
get
that
amenity,
renovated
or
upgraded
or
whatever
term
you
you,
you
want
to
use
depending
on
the
site.
Obviously
we
have
about
90
active
capital
projects
in
Brooklyn,
so
you
know
some
of
those
are
small
path
renovations.
G
Those
don't
typically
have
a
community
input
process.
It's
more
there's
a
path
there.
We
just
repave
it
it's
a
replacement
and
kind
project
for
bigger
ones
that
will
kind
of
change.
What
that
Park
is
going
to
be
so
change
the
use
of
that
part,
so
maybe
it
might
have
been
an
asphalt
area
and
now
it's
going
to
be
a
playground
with
a
synthetic
turf
field,
or
we
know
it's
going
to
be
geared
towards
children.
G
It's
a
park
property,
sometimes
we'll
meet
with
the
school,
we'll
meet
with
students
and
and
kind
of
get
their
feedback,
and
then,
after
that,
two-week
period
after
the
the
parks
project.
After
that
initial
online
meeting,
two
weeks
after
that,
we
let
you
know,
we
give
all
that
information
to
our
design
staff.
So
Emanuel
has
other
colleagues
that
work
on
these
projects
and
they
will
go
and
work
and
develop.
G
What's
called
a
schematic
plan
that
goes
through
a
series
of
In-House
parks
department,
only
reviews
it
goes
through
our
Deputy
Commissioner
for
capital
projects.
It
goes
to
our
commissioner.
It
will
go
commissioner
Donahue
and
then
eventually
it
will
go
to
the
community
board
for
review
and
that
that
community
board
is
the
next
time
generally.
G
F
G
Does:
okay,
okay,
if
I
end
up
talking
too
long
or
or
if
I
go
and
randomly
just
reel
me
back
in
so
I.
Think
what,
where
you
know
and
from
our
conversations
about
the
burial
ground
is,
you
know,
there's
been
a
lot
of
work
already
done
and
I
think
we
have
to
recognize
that
there's
a
lot
of
Community
Partners
and
a
lot
of
community
groups
that
have
a
lot
of
interests
in
the
in
the
park.
So
it's
not
our
standard
path,
renovation
by
any
means,
so
it
needs
a
little
bit
more.
G
It
needs
quite
a
bit
more
Outreach
and
input
for
our
designers
to
make
sure
that
they
can
get
the
design
right.
That
is
something
again
that
the
community
can
be
proud
of.
So
what
we've
done
on
other
more
involved
projects
is
we
will
table
in
the
park
and
just
have
some
sort
of
on-site
presence,
because,
obviously
not
everyone
can
call
into
a
zoom
meeting.
Not
everyone
has
a
time
in
the
evenings
to
do
a
meeting
like
this.
G
H
H
G
Or
or
possibly,
you
know
have
some
sort
of
survey
where
we
could
show
the
results
of
that
survey
before
we
go
too
far
down
the
road
with
the
design,
because
I
think
the
last
thing
we
want
to
do
is
you
know,
send
a
manual
off
into
the
woods.
He
draws
up
something
that
you
know
could
be
a
very
nice
design,
but
we
don't
want,
but
is
not
going
to
be
something
that
the
community
is
going
to
endorse.
G
So
that
is
kind
of
just
a
concept
for
what
we
are
thinking
about
or
more
involved
input
process.
We
haven't
nailed
anything
down
right
now,
so
we're
just
still
still
thinking
about
it.
It's
still
open
and
if
there
are
and
we're
open
to
suggestions
from
the
task
force
on
how
we
can
make
that
process
better
and
more
reflective
of
of
the
community,
so
I
hope
that
starts
to
get
at
some
of.
I
Okay,
great,
thank
you
for
that
before
I,
move
on
to
Corazon
I
just
want
to
mention
that
the
deck
the
slides
that
were
presented
by
a
parks
department
from
Monday's
meeting
are
available
on
the
cb14
website.
So
if
you
go
to
the
cb14
website,
you'll
be
able
to
click
on
and
view
the
slides
that
were
presented
by
parks,
department
and
so
Corazon
you're
up
next,
you
have
three
minutes.
C
G
H
C
G
The
most
important
thing
is
it
kind
of
it
takes
I'm,
not
sure
what
the
specific
law
is,
but
once
it
becomes
a
park,
it
takes
like
an
active
state
from
the
state
legislation
to
turn
it
into
anything
else.
So
it's
a
very
complicated
process
to
turn
it
into
something
that
isn't
a
Park,
which
is
a
good
thing
in
terms
of
preservation.
F
Can
give
you
some
grades,
then
I
think
we
should
understand
that
that
term
is
an
industry
term
and
it's
very
common
I
like
to
see
Felicia
said
so.
We
can
give
you
some
Grace
tonight,
as
you
guys
adjust,
but
moving
forward.
I
think
we
should
all
just
kind
of
get
in
the
habit
of
referring
it,
referring
to
it
as
the
African
barrier
on
a
barrier
ground
or
you
know,
but
to
show
it
to
show
the
it's
just
deserved.
So.
I
J
J
It
revolves
around
managing
expectations
and
sort
of
just
being
maybe
a
little
bit
more
transparent
than
Parks
might
be
comfortable
with,
but
what
I?
What
I
really
want
to
ask
you
and
is
what
are
the
barriers
here
and
what
are
your
pains
and
those
are
important
things,
because
we
have
money
constraints.
J
We
have
time
constraints.
We
have
a
long
process
in
which
the
burial
ground
will
be
processed
and
and
turned
into
memorialization
and
a
usable
space,
but
I
think
thinking
about
the
amount
of
money
that
we
have.
Excuse
me
the
amount
of
time
that
we
have
and
then
your
standard
operating
procedure
and
how
that
may
not
be
congruent
with
what
needs
to
happen.
J
G
G
Typically,
you
know
were
kind
of
pushed
in
in
every
budget
hearing
you
hear
about
how
long
the
capital
process
takes
and
that
we
need
to
deliver
a
finished
product
in
a
certain
amount
of
time.
So
that
is
one
constraint
that
that
we're
up
against
I
think
probably
given
the
complexity
of
the
site.
I
think
that
can
slide
a
little
bit
given
how
you
know
how
much
attention
there
is
on
the
site,
how
much,
how
important
all
the
the
Outreach
and
working
with
community
members
is
going
to
be.
G
Another
pain
point
is,
is
going
to
be
when
it
comes
to
our
flexibility
in
choosing
you
know
who
works
on
the
site.
Who
actually
does
the
design?
You
know,
aside
from
it's,
going
to
be
a
park
employee,
so
it's
going
to
be
a
manual,
but
a
manual
is
only
one
person,
so
it's
not
a
it's,
not
a
whole
team
of
people.
That's
going
to
be
working
on
it.
G
You
know
this
burial,
ground
project
I
think
as
far
as
other
pain
points.
Otherwise
you
know
we
are
also
constrained
in
terms
of
how
we
can
procure
services.
So
when
it
comes
to
archaeological
Services,
I
don't
know
Emmanuel.
Do
you
have
any
more
detail
on
what
that
process
is
like
or
if
you
feel
comfortable
speaking
about
that,
that
is
going
to
be
one
where
yeah
go
ahead.
Yeah.
K
K
But
having
said
that,
we
also
want
to
be
sure
that
that's
something
you
know
that
we
are
not
in
in
the
process
of
getting
an
archaeologist,
that
we
are
not
hiring
someone
that
the
community
would
not
like
to
to
sort
of
like
evaluate
the
the
in
the
excavations
and
that
so
that
the
whatever
the
finding
or
whatever
the
protocol
will
be
is
something
that
is
respectful
to
the
community.
So
obviously,
we
would
like
to
get
the
community
involved.
K
If
anything,
we've
discussed
whether
we
can
see
whether
we
can
get
a
minority,
and
we
are
looking
into
that.
If
there
are
minority
archeology
group
that
the
city-
maybe
you
know
that
that
we
can
have
them,
hire
people
that
are
more
experienced
in
this
kind
of
sort
of
in
this
kind
of
research
or
or
or
following
the
right
protocol
that
that
would
not
violate
or
that
the
community
wouldn't
feel
is
violating
the
the
process
or
the
respectful
aspect
of
the
burial
ground?
K
Again
we
we
are,
you
say
it's
not
like
something.
We
do
all
the
time,
but
we
are
looking.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
the
community
is
comfortable
with
with
the
archaeologists
that
we
select.
You
know
and
again
we
are
look.
We
we've.
We've
we've
talked
about
whether
we
can
see
if
we
can
put
in
the
spec
for,
for
example,
the
site
investigation.
If
we
can
get
choices
of
three
different
archaeologists
and
or
or
equal
to
see
who
we
can
get.
That
would
be.
J
So
if
I
can
summarize,
then,
with
some
bullet
points,
this
this
will
be,
for
the
most
part,
a
100,
Parks,
LED
project
right
and
then
pain.
Points
that
you
are
a
small
group
pain
point
that
there
is
a
standard
operating
procedure
which,
in
terms
of
time
constraints,
you
are
willing
to
deviate
somewhat
in
terms
of
gathering
as
much
information
as
you
can
to
make
it
the
best
project
for
the
community
that
you
can
and
then.
J
B
Or
I
can
go
ahead
quickly,
I
I
think
actually
Joanne
kind
of
anticipated.
What
I
was
going
to
ask
about
about
the
process
and
Davey?
One
of
the
things
that
normally
also
happens
is
that
there's
a
there
in
my
experience,
we've
gone
to
to
a
location
that
is
being
considered
for
a
capital
project
and
Parks,
then
Scopes
what
needs
to
happen,
and
then
the
budget
is
set
from
that
scoping
exercise,
whereas
the
budget
for
this
came
prior
to
a
scoping
exercise.
B
So
I'm
wondering
to
what
extent
that
it
that
you
know
the
the
budgeting
prior
to
scoping
has
either
been
help
or
hindrance
to
to
how
this
project
is,
how
we
set
the
process
for
it
and
then
also
Emmanuel
mentions
a
consultant.
That's
on
this
project,
I'm
kind
of
wondering
what
the
scope
of
that
consultancy
is
thanks.
K
Well,
the
the
consultant
that
we
have
on
board
the
city
already
have
so
as
far
in
the
beginning
stage
like,
for
example,
revolving
site
investigation,
which
we
would
need
to
do
for
any
site
that
we
that
we
work
on
the
city
already
had
a
contract
for
I.
Think
about
four
or
five
side
investigation
group
that
are
on
board-
and
usually
it's
a
rotation
of
this
group
that
we
we
that
we
go
through
to
to
do
our
side
investigation.
So
we
don't.
We
don't
have
a
choice
on
that
aspect.
K
Unless
we
sometimes
we
we
have
a
request
for
proposals
where
we
would
hire.
You
know,
have
the
engineering
as
a
separate
entity
as
a
separate
group,
and
then
they
can
hire
like,
for
example,
an
archaeologist,
but
in
this
particular
case,
in
this
early
stage
we
don't
have
that
RFP,
an
RFP
separate
for
that
purpose.
So,
at
the
at
the
beginning,
at
least
to
get
information
we
we
would
like
to
go
with
the
the
setup
the
pre-selected
set
that
we
have
in
contract
with
the
city
contract.
G
E
H
K
Yes,
it'll
be
we
had
a
meeting
internally
in
which
it
would
be
needed
at
the
very
beginning,
because
even
the
purpose
of,
for
example,
when
we
have
a
site
we
still
have
to
deal
with,
for
example,
soil
contamination.
We
want
to
be
sure
that
there's
no
contaminant,
because
it's
going
to
be
open
to
the
public
to
do
that
they
process.
We
still
have
to
there's
some
excavation.
That
may
happen
for
the
purpose
of
finding
that
that
and
so
again
anytime
you
have
excavation.
K
We
are
thinking
we,
we
will
need
the
archaeologists
to
sort
of
supervise
the
process
of
how
we
go
about
doing
that
and-
and
we
are
in
discussion-
we
are
already
trying
to
minimize
the
footprint.
You
know
the
impact
we
have
on
the
site
and
there
was
a
previous
archaeological
excavation
done
and
we
sort
of
have
a
cursory
map
of
who
edited
these
excavations.
K
So
we
are
taking
any
future
investigation,
we're
going
to
do
we're
going
to
try
to
do
it
at
the
same
location
because
they
were
previously
excavated
under
an
archaeologist
so
again
we're
trying
to
minimize
the
impact
but
I'm,
not
Excavating
areas
that
haven't
been
touched
previously
again.
That's
right.
G
K
G
E
G
Sort
of
soil
disturbance
to
make
sure
that
if
we
had
to
do
a
contamination
test
or
a
percolation
test,
which
is
another
test
that
we
frequently
do
to
test,
how
water
kind
of
goes
through
the
soil
and
what
kind
of
ground
we're
working
with
then
we'd
probably
also
have
some
sort
of
archaeological
Services.
When
we
actually
go
into
construction.
So.
A
K
Yeah
we
we
will
also,
actually
we
will
also
have
a
an
archaeological
input
after
we
developed
the
design
also
because
they
they
kind
of
set
up
the
protocol
to
know
how
the
construction
will
happen.
That
way,
we
will.
We
will
have
standards
that
are
Set.
That
way
when
the
project
is
bid
on,
we
could
be.
K
We
could
cover
the
course
of
what
is
actually
required
in
construction,
so
we
will
need
to
add
the
design
process
so
that
we
prepare
documentation
that
that
tells
what
protocol
what
steps
they
need
to
take
during
construction,
and
that
way
the
contractors
can
bid
on
the
job
properly,
and
we
will
also
be
using
him
doing
construction
doing
excavation
make
sure
things
are
also
super.
You
know
supervised
make
and
if
something
was
to
be
discovered,
what
is
the
protocol?
You
know
what?
What?
How
do
we
proceed?.
G
G
K
Sometimes
experience
counts
a
lot
I've
been
time
and
I
think
the
budget
that
we
have
compared
to
the
size
of
the
site
that
we
have
and
given
that
we
are
trying
as
much
as
possible
to
again
light
footprint
but
meaningful
for
plan.
We
want
to
be
sure
that
that
you
know
the
I
think
the
the
money
that
we
have
for
the
for
the
burial,
ground
development
I
think
is
adequate.
Just
from
a
gut.
You
know
experience
of
of
other
other
projects
that
I've
worked.
I
L
I
think
that
our
congresswoman
Yvette
Clark
has
supported
this
potentially
becoming
a
national
park.
So
I
would
hope
that
if
this
the
plan
for
it
to
become
a
New,
York,
City,
Park
or
implemented
that
that
is
still
a
possibility
that
that
the
burial
ground
can
be
a
national
park
nor
National,
Monument,
I
guess.
My
more
immediate
question,
which
is
maybe
answerable
is,
is
the
part
going
to
be
staffed
and
what
are
the
hours
of
the
park?
What
is
the
plan
for
that?
L
My
next
question
is:
why
are
we
talking
about
Construction
and
building
when
the
project,
when
it
was
stated
that
it
would
be
a
Community
Land
Trust
did
so
under
the
condition
that
nothing
would
be
built
on
the
site,
no
buildings,
no
construction
of
any
kind
other
than
that
which
would
facilitate
access
to
the
site
of
minimal
impact.
Regardless
of
what
the
budget
is.
L
G
G
K
Yeah
again,
the
question
was
we
got
in
the
use
of
an
archaeologist
throughout
the
process
and
considering
that
this,
the
burial
ground
is
going
to
be
a
project
as
I
understand
it.
Since
we
had
the
community
input
meeting
where
people
voice
the
idea
of
the
of
for
lack
of
better
the
development
of
the
of
the
burial
ground
as
a
place
where
people
you
know
not
just
keeping
it
as
in
so
it
was.
K
My
understanding
so
I
was
I
was
explaining
the
process
that,
for
going
from
from
side
investigation
to
design
to
the
construction
of
whatever
it
is,
that
is
that
that
is
being
proposed
and
accepted
by
the
community.
So
the
construction
is
basically
a
term
for
coming
to
fruition,
the
design
that
was
accepted
by
the
community.
It
has
to
be
constructed
whether
it's
minimally,
whether
the
design
is
minimal.
It
still
is
a
construction
process
that
that
by
City
standard
has
to
be
bidded
out
and
go
to
a
construction
evenly
acts.
G
E
L
L
About
extending
the
reach
beyond
the
the
neighbors
who
walk
by
the
site,
I
believe
that
this
is
a
site
that,
mostly
mostly
who
has
invested,
are
descendants
of
those
who
are
buried
there
and
in
the
past
discussions
that
was
the
first
group
that
is
contacted
Whenever.
There
is
a
burial
ground
discovered.
I
I
N
Of
course,
good
evening,
everyone
thank
you
for
all
of
you
that
are
here
tonight,
I'm
really
excited
to
see.
There
will
be
more
Outreach
this
again.
This
is
just
the
first
dance.
This
is
just
brainstorming
talking
it
out
making
sure
we
also
are
on
the
same
page
languages.
The
same
in
the
in
the
meeting
we
had
Monday.
We
learned
a
lot.
I
listened
and
I
learned
a
lot.
N
So
that's
what
we're
here
for
today
I
was
having
a
conversation,
I'm,
not
sure
I
I
think
it
was
with
Sean,
we'll
be
reaching
out
to
other
Community
boards
to
make
sure
that
they
are
also
engaged
engaging
our
meeting
people
where
they
are,
and
it's
not
only
by
the
site,
it's
into
the
communities
into
the
churches,
into
the
schools
into
the
community
centers
wherever
they
are.
We're
gonna
find
our
neighbors
to
make
sure
that
they
know
about
this
site
again.
N
I
walk
past
the
site
every
day
for
22
years,
while
I
went
to
teach
at
ps6
and
I
never
knew
it
was
there.
So
if
I
didn't
know,
there's
quite
a
few
people
that
didn't
that
does
not
know
that
it
exists.
So
therefore
the
Outreach
is
there
and
the
money
was
moved
into
Parks
because
they
were
the
best
person
to
hold
the
money
because
they
do
Capital
plans.
N
N
This
is
just
that
your
early
infancy,
we're
still
learning
how
to
walk
and
crawl
and
make
sure
we're
doing
everything
intentional
to
make
sure
that
we
give
our
ancestors
the
proper,
the
proper
Memorial
so
again,
I'm
here
to
listen
and
learn-
and
this
is
a
learning
moment
for
everyone-
someone
said
to
me:
maybe
this
is
a
way
for
parks
to
learn.
Park
is
also
learning
and
they're
coming
here,
with
their
notebooks
they're
doing
their
homework.
N
This
is
a
new
thing
that
I'm
sure
park
has
done
before,
but
nothing
on
this
magnitude,
so
therefore
Parks
will
be,
will
bear
with
us
and
be
patient
and
in
our
Outreach
in
our
Grace
and
passion
on
how
we
we
we
navigate
this
space.
This
space
is
new
to
a
lot
of
people.
Yes,
some
of
you
have
been
here
fighting
for
this
as
well.
N
I'm
new
I'm
new
to
the
space
Park
is
new,
so
give
us
Grace
and
compassion
as
we
learn
to
navigate
the
space,
and
if
we
make
a
mistake,
don't
hold
it
against
us.
A
lot
of
us
have
made
mistakes
when
I
first
found
out
about
this
land
I
was
like.
Oh,
we
should
make
it
into
a
farm,
but
I
didn't
know
that
it
was
a
sacred
land
until
I
found
out.
N
I
retract
did
my
statement,
even
though
some
of
you
have
used
that
statement
against
me
quite
a
few
times
and
I
was
like,
but
I
did
apologize
because
I
didn't
know,
because
you
also
didn't
know.
So.
This
is
a
space
of
listening
and
learning
and
making
things
right.
They
they
got
it
wrong.
They
got
it
wrong
twice.
They
were
able
to
build
on
this
land
twice,
so
they
got
it
wrong.
So
this
is
our
chance
to
make
it
right.
So
thank
you
again
for
everyone.
I
Great,
thank
you,
council,
member
Joseph,
and
you
know
I
I,
just
kind
of
wanted
to
just
piggyback
on
what
the
council
member
just
said
and
something
that
was
prevalent
on
Monday's
evening.
Monday
evening's
call,
as
well
as
in
the
chat
tonight,
which
is
to
start.
You
know
a
discussion
about
community
outreach
and
are
there
any
plans
right
now
that
parks
department
can
share
with
us
tonight
about
how
you
plan
on
addressing
community
community
outreach
and
I.
I
Think
that
one
of
the
bigger
questions
or
one
of
the
bigger
comments
that
came
out
of
Monday
night
and
is
also
in
the
chat
this
evening,
is
sort
of
changing
the
idea
of
what
community
what
the
typical
community
outreach
is
and
listening
to
more
of
the
community
in
terms
of
how
you're
doing
that
Outreach
and
how
you're
getting
the
word
out
about
the
about
the
burial
ground.
So
maybe
Davey.
If
you
can
speak
to
that.
G
Well,
we
can,
you
know,
I,
think
it's
going
to
take
more
dialogue,
more
more
meetings
and
I
think
what
we
can
do
is
we're
going
to
we're
going
to
talk
internally
with
parks
and
kind
of
come
up
with
what
what
some
sort
of
proposal
about
what
we're
we're
planning
to
do
as
far
as
Outreach,
then
we
can
happy
to
report
back
whether
it's
on
email
or
another
another
meeting
we
we
can
do
that
I.
Think.
Another
aspect
here
is
I.
G
You
know
we're
learning
in
this
process
too,
so
we
we
want
to
be
able
to
work
with
as
many
community
members
and
we
we
really
need
your
help
in
terms
of
getting
the
word
out
as
well.
You
know
it's
only.
You
know
if,
if
you
put
the
Outreach
just
on
a
manual
b,
gym
Anya
and
a
couple
other
people,
it's
not
gonna
be
good.
You
know
it's
only
going
to
be
good.
If,
if
community
members
can
play
a
role.
H
E
H
I
Well,
I
I,
don't
know
if
Dwayne,
if
you
have
another
question,
but
I
have
a
follow-up
to
that.
Just
real
quick!
Is
there
a
way
that
Davey
that
parks
department
is
sort
of
capturing?
You
know
these
comments
from
the
community
from
Monday's
meeting
from
future
meetings
like
Monday's
meeting
from
tonight's
meeting,
in
terms
of
because
there
are
some
ideas
that
have
been
put
in
the
chat
that
were
said
on
Monday,
so
I
understand
that
you
don't
have
that
process.
I
G
Yeah
so
I
think
you
know
each
each
breakout
room,
we
took
notes
and
recorded
it
and
I
think
Jim
and
I
figure
out
a
way
to
to
capture
the
chat,
because
that
was
that
was
definitely
expressed.
So
so
we
have
that
in
a
in
a
bunch
of
screenshots,
but
we
still
have
it
and
I
think
the
other
thing
that
we've
been
talking
about
at
parks
is
we've
been
speaking
with
HPD
about
getting
talking
about
some
sort
of
web
presence.
H
H
G
H
G
K
Baby
I
also
want
to
point
out,
while,
while
you
are
discussing
the
process
itself,
one
of
the
things
that
comes
out
as
a
designer
I'm
looking
when
you
that
information
that
we
got
on
Monday
and
the
information
that
will
continue
to
to
get
when
we
group
it
all
together,
we
sort
of
get
a
feel
for
what
the
community
wants
and
how
we
synthesize.
What
the
community
desire
on
you
know,
what's
really
important
and
critical
to
to
satisfying
the
communities
desire
for
this.
K
For
this
burial,
for
this
burial
site
and
the
more
information
we
get
like
that,
there's
some
common
ground
that
from
from
the
chaplain
that
we
had
that
that
were
repeated
throughout
the
throughout
the
different
chat
room.
It
gives
us
an
impression
of
what
the
community
there's
a
at
least
from
this
preliminary
stage,
and
that
helps
us
a
lot.
K
I
That
happens,
I
think
that's
right,
I
think
that's
right,
Emmanuel
that
it's
it
it's
not
just
important
for
you
to
collect
the
information
if
it's
going
to
go
nowhere,
but
for
you
to
actually
absorb
the
information
that
you're
collecting
from
all
of
these
invested
people
and
entities
so
Dwayne
you
can
go
ahead
and
then
Raul
rothblatt,
I
I,
see
your
hand
is
up.
I
know
you
want
to
speak
and
you're
on
the
list,
but
Dwayne
had
his
hand
up
first,
so
Dwayne.
F
You
know
some
of
the
questions
around.
You
know
what
the
site
would
look
like.
Have
you
spoken
to
and
I
think
this
was
addressed,
archaeologists
and
and
how
the
barrier
ground
will
be
dealt
with
in
terms
of
excavation
that
sort
of
thing,
but
one
of
the
points
you
made
Davey,
or
rather
Emmanuel-
is
that
you
know
Parts
currently
has
access
to
Architects
who
you
can
turn
to
to
help
with
some
of
the
process
and
I'm
curious
to
know.
F
K
A
G
You
know
we
get
some
occasionally
we'll
have
some
funding
to
do
like
planning
studies,
but
that
was
always
tied
to
the
study
and
I'm,
not
sure.
We've
done
anything
where
we're
Contracting
specific
groups,
but
that's
something
I
can
I,
can
take
back
and
try
to
look
into
I,
don't
know
a
manual
if
you've
seen
a.
K
K
You
know
between
the
ball,
the
design
division,
the
fund
office
just
to
again
to
to
to
relate
the
community's
desire
to
see
how
we
can
we
can
strategize
and
what's
available
under
the
current
under
the
current
City
requirement,
how
we
can
reach
out
and
and
get
the
community
more
involved,
I
think
we
we
want
to.
But
again
we
we
are
within
the
bureaucracy
and
we
have
to
sort
of
work
out
what
what's
possible
to
do
within
the
current
environment.
It
is
our
desire
and
that
you
know
myself
I'm
available.
F
But
I
I
think
in
those
discussion
respectfully
and
as
we
said
earlier
on
this
call
you
the
Playbook
you're
currently
using
you
know
you
might
have
to
throw
it
out
the
window
and
start
a
new
one.
This
is
different
from
your
the
traditional
sites
that
you
guys
work
with
and-
and
this
is
this-
is
something
that
the
community,
as
you
can
tell
through
your
meeting
on
Monday
and
through
the
discussion
in
this
chat.
F
There
are
members
of
this
community
and
other
members
around
the
city
that
are
not
represented
here
tonight
that
want
to
be
involved
in
this
process
and
would
like
to
see
it
have
so.
My
question
is
really
about
like
the
question
about
budget
and
restrictions
and
Joanne
asks
about
your
pain
points,
and
you
know
it
it.
There
have
been
other
projects
I've
seen
with
the
city
where
Consultants
were
brought
on
board
to
help
with
Community
engagement
and
that
sort
of
thing.
M
G
You
know
whether
we
bring
in
a
you
know
if,
if
we
can
put
out
an
RFP
or
some
sort
of
whatever
the
process
is
going
to
be
I,
don't
want
to
say
what
it
is
because
I
don't
know,
but
if
there
are
other
projects
that
have
you
know,
we
really
like
the
bqe's
visiting
process.
We
want
to
see
that
or
we'd
like
you
know
how
they
report
out
from
that.
F
F
Having
someone
that
you
know
is
better
verse
in
community
engagement
and
development
and
Outreach
than
you
guys
currently
seem
to
be,
and
that's
not
knocking
you
I
know
you
have
a
small
team
for
them
to
be
able
to
engage
the
community
because
we're
getting
questions
in
the
chat
about
you
know.
How
are
you
going
to
communicate
about
meetings,
or
is
that
going
to
be
posted
somewhere
near
the
site
when
you
have
meetings
or
someone
again
put
some
up,
you
know
I,
don't
know
what
your
current
processes
are
like.
F
F
E
I
D
D
I'm
here,
representing
a
government
office
but
I
I,
definitely
want
to
encourage
kind
of
Grassroots
activism,
which
has
been
fantastic
here,
but
I
mean
the
reason
I've
been
dying
to
speak
here
is
because
Prospect
Park,
which
is
part
of
New
York
City
Parks,
is
doing
a
really
phenomenal
job
in
doing
this.
So
last
year
we
did
a
Juneteenth
event,
starting
at
the
Flatbush
African
burial
ground,
ending
at
Parkside
Plaza
this
year.
D
You
know
we,
we
don't
need
any
digital
Communications
here,
we're
going
to
be
bringing
the
sounds
and
the
spirits
and
the
colors
and
the
everything
to
to
the
neighborhood
to
the
streets
and
I
I
really
hope.
We
can
make
sure
that
this
is
as
broad
of
a
collaboration
as
possible
and
working
with
as
many
as
people
as
possible.
I'm,
really
amazed
with
what
the
leopards
historic
house
is
doing.
D
They
have
people
who
don't
know
they
have
been
setting
up
Community
meetings,
they've
been
doing
these
visioning
things
they've
been
they
started
off.
Inviting
a
lot
of
you
know
some
of
the
people
here
today
to
to
a
really
in-person
really
Dynamic
discussion
and
I
I
was
just
stunned
to
see
Prospect
Park
doing
a
such
a
phenomenal
job
of
doing
that
and
then
they've
been
expanding
it
out.
D
The
Juneteenth
event
is
going
to
be
the
launch
of
of
this
space,
so
the
the
leopards
house,
a
lot
of
enslaved,
brooklynites
work
there,
so
we're
finally
going
to
hear
their
stories
their
names,
their
lives
and
they're
going
to
be
included
in
this,
so
connecting
it
to
the
Flatbush
African
burial
ground
is
going
to
be
a
phenomenal
opportunity
and
yeah.
That's
my
main
point.
So
please
stay
in
touch.
D
I'm
going
to
go
to
cb9
too
so
I
mean
our.
We
have
very
little
of
cb14,
but
we,
you
know
we
represent,
but
yeah
I
mean
we
will
definitely
work
with
cb9
the
you
know
the
the
227
Duffield
227
abolitionist
places
in
CB2
I'm,
often
at
cb8
I
mean
we.
You
know
I
would
be
glad
to
spread
this
Beyond
cb14
and
you.
I
O
Thank
you.
It
is
minute,
sorry,
okay,
okay,
this
is
going
back
to
just
the
shift
between
HPD
and
parks
department,
but
I
think
that
it's
really
getting
at
my.
My
point
is
really
just
about
when
we've
all
been
talking
about
and
the
need
for
open
communication
and
I
just
really
see
a
need
for
the
Parks
Department
to
ensure
that
everything
that's
currently
up
on
hpd's
website
about
this
everything
about
the
engagement
process
and
all
of
the
materials
for
those
who
maybe
haven't
checked
it
out.
O
We
have
all
of
our
recordings
presentations,
post,
Workshop
q
and
A's.
All
of
those
materials
for
the
community
workshops
task
force.
Meetings
in
2020
2021
are
all
posted
for
anybody
to
see
to
really
see
what
the
processes
looked
like,
as
well
as
the
history
of
the
African
burial
ground,
the
about
resources.
All
of
these
pieces
are
right
there
about
what
this
is
all
about
and
I
know.
Davey.
O
You
and
I
spoke
about
this
a
little
bit
about
what
it
would
look
like
shifting
over
to
the
parks
department
site
in
the
the
Capitol
Building
tracker
capital
projects
tracker
and
at
least
on
my
end,
I
I.
Really
don't
see
where
all
of
these
pieces
would
go
and
I
just
think
that
personally,
I
I
think
that
this
should
be
a
priority
for
us
to
have
up-to-date,
accurate
information
up,
which,
right
now
at
least
doing
a
search.
O
All
we
find
are
these
old
meetings
old,
dated
information,
and
it
looks
like
it
still
lies
upon
HPD,
but
also
not
losing
all
of
that
information
so
that
anybody
who's
new
to
this
or
maybe
who's
attending
for
the
first
time
sees
what
the
process
really
looks
like
and
sees
that
we've
all
been
working
on
this
for
a
very
long
time.
This
isn't
just
an
overnight.
We
just
woke
up
and
just
decided
to
do
this,
and
this
is
how
we
ended
up
doing
this
yeah.
G
Where
you
can
see
you
know
the
status
of
every
single
Capital
project,
that's
happening
not
only
in
Brooklyn
but
Citywide,
so
I
think
the
other
thing
is,
as
I
talked
about
earlier,
you
know
we're
working
on
seeing
if
we
can
put
up
our
own
New
York
City,
Parks
page,
that
would
be
on
the
parks
website
that
would
be
about
the
project
and
I
think
we
could
definitely
reference
the
HPD
site
or
end
or
host
information.
That's
our
own
or
new
information
that
comes
up
so
thank
you,
Melissa
and
I.
P
Yeah
I
was
just
going
to
bring
up
something
similar
around
the
website
and
information
and
transparency
I'm,
just
making
sure
that
it's
updated
because
I
know
some
people
had
emailed
me
to
say
that
they
found
it
difficult
to
find
the
link
to
sign
up
for
the
community
input
session
and
that
the
site
was
kind
of
clunky
to
navigate
so
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
up
in
terms
of
process
and
making
sure
that
things
are
as
clear
and
simple
as
possible
for
people.
That
was
the
only
thing,
but
Melissa
covered
some
of
it
anyway.
C
G
E
K
G
I
think
we
would
have
to
figure
out.
You
know
I,
think
part
of
it
is
also
the
budget
where
you
know
if,
if
it
can
come
out
of
that
four
million
dollars
or
it
has
to
be
a
separate
budget
not
to
get
too
technical
into
the
city
budgeting
process,
but
we
have
four
million
dollars
in
capital
funding
which
is
different
from
expense
funding.
So
a
manual
for
example
like
Emmanuel,
our
salaries
come
out
of
expense
funding,
whereas
like
to
build
a
playground,
that's
Capital
funding
because
it
goes
towards
construction.
G
B
G
Think
one
question
that
could
be
important
course
on
and
and
for
the
group
going
forward,
is
what
the
scope
of
that
engagement
process
would
be.
You
know
what
kind
of
you
know
what
kind
of
skills
would
that
firm
need
to
have
is
something
that
we
would
need
to
consider
right.
It's
not
going
to
be
whether
it's
a
construction,
firm
or
a
you
know
a
firm
that
does
like
activities.
You
know
the
parks
department
contracts
for
a
lot
of
different
things
from
you.
H
G
K
E
G
F
M
Be
quick
look,
I
am
all
for
this
idea
of
community
outreach
and
engagement.
I
think
it's
essential.
The
problem
that
I
have
not
heard
addressed
is
what
is
community.
This
particular
burial
ground
is
in
community
District
14.,
so
is
that
Community
it's
on
the
border
of
17,
so
is
that
the
community
it's
in
Brooklyn
is
that
the
community
one
person
in
the
chat
suggested
we
make
it
Citywide
I
think
we
really
have
to
decide.
M
I
Okay,
well,
thank
you
for
that
again.
I
think
that
that
re-emphasizes,
the
idea
that
lots
of
people
have
had
is
that
community
outreach
you
know
dealing
with
the
community
is
going
to
be
in
a
very
a
very
important
step
and
probably
a
a
first
step
within
this
process.
So
again,
the
slides
from
Monday's
meeting
with
the
parks
department
is
available
on
the
cb14
website.
I
The
district,
the
office,
the
cb14
district
office,
is
always
available
to
send
emails
and
to
call
up
in
order
to
ask
more
questions
and
to
you
know,
get
more
involved
and
to
be
a
connection
between
Davey
Ives,
Emmanuel
Jim
who's
here
tonight,
as
well
from
the
parks
department,
and
you
know
the
greater
Flatbush
African
burial
ground.
Various
groups
that
are
very
much
invested
in
you
know
making
this
a
a
very
meaningful
site.
So
I
thank
everybody
for
being
here
tonight.
I
I
Thank
you
so
much
for
everybody
who
attended
this
evening,
because
this
is
a
very
important
and
meaningful
thing
for
the
cb14
district,
and
so
we
appreciate
it
and
I'm
sure
that
the
parks
department
appreciates
all
of
these
comments
and
sort
of
preliminary
directions
as
well.
Yes,
so
thank
you,
Davey
and
Emmanuel
and
Jim
for
being
here
tonight.
Thank
you
to
everyone.