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DATE: Tuesday, January 31, 2023, 6:30 PM
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C
D
C
C
So
it's
only
upon.
It's
always
been
on
this
board's
tradition
to
only
hold
public
hearings
on
Street
code
namings
at
the
request
of
a
council
member,
and
we
never
had
that
request
until
council
member
vernikov
made
it
of
us
in
the
fall.
So
the
idea
is
like
Wow,
since
we
do
this
so
seldom
we're
not
really
prepared.
So,
let's
get
prepared
in
case
we're
asked
again,
but
that
was
the
reason,
because
it's
their
decision
ultimately.
A
Well,
I
still
think
that
all
of
the
steps
we
would
go
through,
we
in
our
board,
including
possibly
I,
mean,
for
example,
I-
was
looking
at
I-
think
cb6's
application,
which
is
incredibly
detailed.
You
know
I
think
it's
fabulous.
You
know
we
wouldn't
have
to
reinvent
the
wheel,
and
you
know
they
asked
such
specific
questions.
B
B
A
B
No,
we
I,
we
I
appreciate
the
thought
process.
I
mean
again
it's
sort
of
a
moot,
it's
sort
of
a
lot
of
energy
on
our
part.
If
the
council
member
is
not
willing
to
put
it
on
its
bill,
so
we
sort
of
have
to
get
a
commitment
to
the
council
member
to
consider
before
we
can
consider
just
with
terms
of
process
again.
If
there
is
an
application
and
the
council
member,
you
know
we
refer
the
applicant
to
the
council
member
and
there
isn't
support.
B
B
E
E
So
you
know
it
can't
necessarily
be
the
community
board
that
makes
the
initial
recommendation
you
take.
For
instance,
you
know
if
somebody's
in
Federalists
District
versus
Calvin,
New,
Year's
district
and
it's
gone
across
a
major
intersection
or
along
Bedford
Avenue
border,
a
border
Street
or
you
know,
so
the
recommendation
would
normally
come
from
the
city
council
member
through
the
community
and
I
I
mean
I,
like
the
idea
that
folks
are
thinking
about
coming
to
us
as
a
community
board
to
get
support.
E
I
think
that's
helpful
and
helps
kind
of
cut
down
on
some
of
the
I've
seen
some
crazy
renaming.
But
that's
also
one
of
the
reasons
why
it
goes
to
the
council
member
first
rather
than
going
through
the
community
board,
because
then
you
get
truncated
into
just
the
boundaries
of
the
community.
But
if
we
have
to
make
a
decision
the
the
ultimate
decision
about
a
streak
on
him,
if
we
like
it
and
cb17,
doesn't
it
then
right.
B
Well,
I
mean
verbally,
it
has
been
verbal,
thus
far,
so
the
applicant.
If
they
contacted
the
community
board,
they
would
be
referred
to
their
Council
member's
office,
and
then
we
would
expect
the
council
member
to
reach
out,
and
let
us
know
that
they're
interested
in
the
application
and
then
we
would
send
the
applicant
the
application.
B
B
B
G
G
H
B
The
paper
version
of
our
application
available
to
all
applicants
and
I
just
wanted
to
respond
to
corazon's
comments
in
the
chat.
Does
the
application
include
an
essay
format?
Yes,
I
mean
typically,
especially
for
a
public
hearing.
We
ask
that
those
who
are
representing
the
application,
be
it
the
applicant
or
supporters,
write
some
sort
of
statement.
So
of
course,
yeah.
There
will
be
some
kind
of
essay
speaking
about
the
impact
and
that
the
honoree
made
on
the
district
or
or
Brooklyn
At,
Large
or
historical
figure,
so
on
and
so
forth.
B
B
Disagree
with
what
they're
commenting
on
the
next
question,
but
hold
on
for
a
second
they're
disagreeing
with
the
amount
of
signatures
that
would
be
required,
so
I
think
the
the
negative
responses
or
the
modified
responses
to
this
question,
and
the
petition
is
not
necessarily
about
collecting
signatures
on
behalf
of
the
applicant.
But
how
many
okay?
Is
there
any
discussion
about
a
petition
being
required
by
the
applicant
in
a
selected
area
of
the
identified
Street
code
naming
corner
any
discussion
on
that?
I
I'm
not
against
it
I'm
Pro
having
a
petition
I
assume,
we
would
create
a
template
of
the
petition
with
like
a
name
address
and
a
signature
that
would
be
attached
to
the
application.
The
details
we
could
probably
handle
off,
but
I'm
just
I'm,
trying
to
make
sure
I
understand
what
we're
thinking
broadly,
when
we
think
of
a
petition
or
a
list
of
signatures
or
some
way
to
prove
that
people
actually
support
it
in
the
neighborhood
or
on
the
street.
C
C
Yeah
I
think
we
could
certainly
offer
a
template
with
so
that
we
had
the
address
to
make
sure
it
was
on
the
street,
and
we
do
have
precedent
for
this
in
the
in
the
district
office,
which
is
when
people
are
doing
block
parties
new
block
parties,
we
do
ask
for
a
51
of
the
households
signing
off
in
support
of
holding
the
block
party,
so
we've
got
a
form,
but
but
it's
the
same
thing
it's
like
you've
got
to
demonstrate.
The
signatures
are
from
the
relevant
block.
B
H
B
Righty
I
don't
know
what
it
is
all
right
so
again,
those
that
are
calling
in
just
feel
free
to
be
Rogue
and
break
in.
If
you
have
comments,
because
you
can't
raise
your
hand
all
right.
So
the
next
question
excuse
me
on
the
survey
was
hypothetical
based
on
a
one
block
radius
of
the
proposed
corner
where
the
street
naming
would
occur.
B
B
That
would
be
about
50
signatures,
okay,
so
the
responses
there
were
a
few
different
tiers
So
for
50
of
that
one
block
radius
that
was
33
in
favor,
sorry
that
was
16
in
favor
for
55
of
that
one
block
radius,
that
was
33
percent
for
60
of
that
one
block
radius
and
signatures.
That
was
16
percent
and
then
for
the
response.
No
petition
should
be
needed.
B
So
some
of
the
comments
that
I
received
in
terms
of
modifying
that
was
that
they
that
they
disagree
with
the
percents
that
were
made
available
during
the
survey
some
suggested
30.
So
for
a
one
block
radius
with
a
hundred
residents
that
would
be
30
signatures,
so
what
they?
What
they
said
was
this
these
30
signatures
would
show
some
amount
of
support
for
the
renaming
without
making
it
onerous
and
then
another
response
was
that
they
would
make
the
percentage
lower
than
50
percent.
A
I,
like
you
know
what
Sean
had
said
about
our
pattern
for
doing
block
parties,
which
is
a
simple
majority,
51
percent
I,
don't
think
it
should
be
less
you
know,
then
you
could
have
a
very
you
know,
activist
crew.
That
wants
something
done
against
the
will
of
the
70
of
people
who
will
have
to
see
that
sign
every
day
they
go.
A
You
know
to
and
from
home,
for
those
people
who
still
go
to
and
from
home,
but
it's
it
seems
logical
and
especially
since
we
already
have
that
established
for
the
block
parties,
I
would
say
a
simple
majority
of
51.,
but
I.
Think
more
of
interest
is
whether
it
is
just
the
block
that
is
to
you
know
on
which
that
person
lived
or
had
a
significant
impact
or
a
literal
one
block
radius
from
the
corner
on
which
that
sign
would
appear.
I
think
that's
more
of
an
interesting
discussion,
but
I'll
leave
that
for
later.
B
Okay,
well,
I'll,
you
know
I'll
just
simplify
it
by
saying:
let's
say
it
is
the
Southeast
corner
of
East
16th
Street
and
Avenue
M.
Okay,
so
then
a
one
block
radius
might
be
on
the
Block
that
the
actual
sign
would
exist
on,
so
that
would
be
East
16th
Street
going
South,
East,
16th,
Street,
going
west
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
B
So
I
just
wanted
to
give
a
better
sort
of
idea,
but
we
wouldn't
be
that
prescriptive,
but
we
would
you
know
we
certainly
don't
want
somebody
two
blocks
away
to
sign
the
petition,
but
it
would
have
to
be
in
close
proximity
even
across
the
street,
from
East
16th,
Street
and
Avenue
M,
which
is
this
would
be
the
southeast
side.
Let's
say
if
somebody
across
the
street
was
amenable
I
believe
that
they
could.
They
would
sign
the
petition.
A
Right
I
mean
again
reading
through
all
of
the
other
documents
everyone
had
their
own
little.
You
know
Tweaky
way
of
you
know,
judging
what's
an
appropriate
number
of
signatures,
but
yeah,
you
could
say
a
hundred
signatures
or
50
signatures
all
with
residents
within
a
one
block
radius,
just
as
a
possibility
right,
but
we
can
tweak
that
out
later
I'm.
A
E
B
B
J
Hi,
so
I
just
want
to
clarify
that
the
the,
if
we're
doing
a
percentage,
it's
based
on
households
rather
than
residents,
because
it
would
be
difficult
for
anyone
for
I,
think
have
a
real-time
denominator
and
and
plus,
if
we're
doing
residence,
then
you'd
be
throwing
minors
into
the
equation.
So
it
seems
like
if
we're
going
to
do
a
percentage,
it
should
be
based
on
household
units
in
in
on
the
street
or
what
have
you
versus
versus
residents
and
the
other
thing
is
I'm
in
favor
of
a
lower
percentage.
J
I
don't
know
like
I,
just
think
you
know
in
terms
of
like
for
having
political
figures
run
for
office
like
the
just
knowing
knowing
that
process
and
how
difficult
it
can
be
like
just
because
I
I
don't
want
someone
to
be
like
to
have
difficulty
bringing
this,
because
you
know
their
neighbors.
Just
aren't
you
know
at
the
door,
or
you
know
available
at
odd
times
and
have
to
spend
a
lot
of
time.
J
You
know
you
know
knocking
on
people's
doors
over
and
over
again
so
I
mean
I
I
personally,
I'd
be
fine
with
a
raw
number,
though
I
see
why
that
was.
That
would
be
a
problem
because,
obviously
you
know
you'd
have
a
much
different
scenario
for
a
apartment
line.
Block
versus
a
house
line
block
but
I
think
something
closer
to
25
percent
would
be
fine
with
me,
because
I
mean
you
what
whether
you're
part
of
the
you
know,
40
or
50
or
70,
that
you
know
don't
agree
with
it.
J
You
have
an
opportunity
to
show
up
at
at
the
community
board
meeting
and
say
you
know
and
objects
in
person
or
you
know
or
submit
your
objections
anyway.
So
I
don't
think
the
percentage
should
be
that,
should
you
know
we
should,
you
know
be
so
you
know
require
be
requiring
that
half
the
people
in
on
the
block
or
what
have
you
are
in
favor
of
it,
I
I,
think
I
think
a
lower
percentage
would
be
would
be
warranted
here.
J
B
I
I'm
also
Pro
a
a
percentage
less
than
50
percent
I
suggested
the
30
I'd
be
open,
at
least
my
personal
opinion
to
going
up
to
I,
don't
know,
maybe
40,
just
as
some
sign
that
there
is
a
significant
chunk
of
the
population,
even
if
not
a
majority
who
favors
this
a
lot
of
the
times.
I
know
we're
having
like
a
whole
meeting
about
it,
but
most
people
generally
aren't
thinking
about
their
street
names
and
most
times,
I've
done
this,
because
I
I
have
petitioned
on
the
street.
I
Only
does
only
does
code
renamings
on
them
almost
block
by
block
basis,
and
at
least
the
impact
of
those
Street
renamings
would
I
I
would
be
less
concerned
about
it,
because,
even
if
70
of
everyone
on
the
street
opposed
it
I
mean
that's
not
for
nothing.
If
my
street
was
renamed,
weirdly
I
would
think
it
was
weird,
but
the
the
effect
is
rather
limited
and
I
guess
you
could
always
go
back
on
it
or
something
so
I
think
the
There's
an
opportunity
here
to
reduce
the
barrier
and
make
this
more
accessible.
Thank
you.
B
C
C
I'm,
just
helping
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
there's
a
rationale,
so
the
the
rationale
could
be.
Ultimately,
the
community
board
is
approving
the
the
street
activity
permit,
whereas
the
street
co-naming
is
simply
where
the
first
step
in
a
longer
process,
and
it
does
have
the
the
the
the
public
hearing
aspect
where
people
can
publicly
voice
an
objection
which
is
not
true
of
a
block
party.
Thank
you,
sir
I
had
to
think
that
through
in
order
to
be
able
to
articulate
it
if,
when
the
time
comes,.
F
I
was
just
going
to
say:
I
think
that
it
would
be
I
I,
think
I
would
actually
be
in
favor
of
lowering
the
percentage
if
we
could
also
make
it
such
that
someone
could
say
that
they
object
on
the
petition
just
so
that
we
can
get
an
idea
of.
If
there's
like
a
lot
of
objections
along
with
the
approvals
you
know,
of
course,
that
would
be
kind
of
honors
code
for
whoever's
going
around
and
asking
for
petitioning.
F
But
that
might
you
know
I
do
think
that
you
know
I'm
thinking
about
this
and
I
agree
that
it'd
be
nice
to
kind
of
lower
the
barrier,
since
it's
only
one
of
many
steps
compared
to
you
know,
making
an
approval
right
on
the
spot
with
the
block
parties,
but
also
just
you
know
it.
It
seems
like
this
could
be
some.
You
know
I'm
of
two
minds
here,
one
of
just
like
trying
to
make
it
easy
to
get
things.
F
B
B
C
B
You
know
I
think
if
we
are
going
to
lower
it
below
a
simple
majority,
then
we
do
need
to
take
it
as
Sean.
You
know
made
this
recommendation.
We
do
need
to
have
some
way
that
people
are
notified,
that
the
public
hearing
is
going
to
take
place
so
that
they
can
objectives
so
be
it.
So
one
of
I
did
do
a
little
bit
of
research
and
there
it's
not
that
costly
to
send
out
a
a
mailing
and
have
proof
of
mailing
to
the
one
block
radius.
B
So
that
could
be
if
we
lower
the
the
petition.
That
requires
a
little
bit
less
effort
and
a
little
less
onerous
but
then
creates,
if
we
add
the
the
public
notice,
the
proof
of
public
notice.
That
gives
us
a
little
bit
more
sense
that
there
isn't
that
that
people
have
been
informed.
There
is
no
objection
Sean,
you
had
more
to
add.
C
B
The
way
that
they
can
do
it
and
I
just
you
know,
I
know
it's
we're
getting
into
the
you
know
the
real
minutia
right
now,
but
they
can
have
a
set
of
postcards
made
with
a
notification
and
all
they
do
is
they
bring
them
to
the
post
office
and
they
get
a
certificate
of
mailing
and
so
they
hand
over
the
stack
of
postcards
and
the
post
office
says.
Yes,
you
gave
us
these
postcards
and
you
shall
mail
them.
Thank
you.
So
that's
one
way
that
we
can
go
about
it.
B
J
B
B
B
G
L
B
C
B
Okay,
it's
just
kind
of
agreed,
it's
just
kind
of
an
issue
and
having
Gone
door
to
door
just
to
get.
You
know
signatures
for
County
committee,
it's
very
difficult
to
get
into
buildings
and
it's
actually
not
legal
for
someone
to
go
into
a
building
that
has
a
no
trespassing
sign
with
the
flyer,
so
I
think
we
have
to
do
something.
That's
a
little
bit
more
direct
and
is
delivered
in
a
way.
That's
you
know,
doesn't
put
anyone
in
you
know,
trouble
or
peril.
M
Yeah
I
was
saying:
I
agree
with
what
you
just
said.
The
flyer
situation:
can
it
be
a
bit
problematic
and
getting
into
buildings?
Gonna
have
no
trust
the
same
time,
so
I
liked
what
you
said
about
the
the
postcards,
because
at
least
that
could
be
males
to
buildings
and
and
in
buildings
depending
on
the
size,
and
all
of
that
so
yeah
I'd
like
something
a
little
bit
more
direct
like
the
cards
rather
than
the
flyer.
Unless
the
Flyers
are
going
to
be
mailed
out.
B
E
J
H
H
E
E
Don't
we
don't
hold
those
here,
but
they're
they're
standing
there
look
at
that
so
I'm
curious,
like
in
those
cases,
what's
the
requirement
of
the
proprietor
to
notify
the
community?
Do
they
have
to
mail
something
out
or
like
like
Joanna,
said
and
get
a
certificate
of
mailing,
or
is
it
just
simply
flyering
around
a
community?
C
E
B
B
F
I
actually
have
a
question
I
think
that
might
be
relevant
to
the
mailing
thing
before
we
bring
it
up.
I
just
was
wondering
like
I'm,
realizing
that
you
know
when
I
thought,
like
I,
have
gone
around
my
block
and
acquired
people,
and
it's
been
very
easy
when
it's
clearly
like
a
one
or
two
family
home,
but
it's
very
hard
to
know
how
many
people
would
be
in
an
apartment
building
or
where
to
get
those
addresses.
F
C
Can
get
a
list
of
of
residents
and
then
you
know
but
I'm
hearing
you
on
the
difficulties
of
getting
into
the
building
for
for
all
of
that.
But
we
have
a
sense
of
how
many
people
are
in
those
buildings,
and
you
know
we've
got
like
DCP
data
and
other
things
like
that.
But
in
the
past
the
other
thing
we've
done
is
there's.
If
there's
a
tenants
Association
they
get
a
letter
from
the
tenants
Association
representing
all
of
the
people
in
that
building.
K
B
You
okay,
so
the
first
motion
before
the
board
would
be
for
simple
majority
with
no
postcard
mailing,
and
the
second
motion
would
be
for
some
some
percentage
with
the
postcard,
mailing
and
proof
of
and
simple
proof
of
mailing
from
the
US.
The
USPS,
so
I
heard
30
I
had
I
heard
40
is
there
is
I,
saw
some
people
that
were
opposed
to
33.
Can
I
just
see
your
hands
again.
B
B
The
item
like
for
this
motion
to
present
so
the
it's
not
a
simple
majority:
that's
going
to
be
presented
to
the
board
so
now
we're
just
talking
about
somewhere
between
33
and
40,
because
those
are
the
numbers
I
heard
before
so
I
I
understand
if
you're
interested
in
a
simple
majority
and
no
mailing
understood
it's
going
to
be
presented
as
an
option
for
the
full
board
to
to
you,
know,
motion
and
ponder
about.
But
now
we
have
to
come
up
with
the
second
motion,
so
yeah.
G
B
B
K
M
B
J
B
B
D
Is
that
you
mean
owners
being
Overkill
or
is
that
what
yeah?
Oh
okay,
well
I
mean
I?
Think
Overkill
kind
of
I
mean
you're
going
to
be
walking
down
the
street
and
you
still
end
up
with
people
who
are
like
I
didn't
know
that
was
happening,
I'm
like
well,
they
put
the
stuff
out
there,
I
mean
I,
don't
know.
D
B
B
B
B
A
So
if
someone,
you
know
if
we
post
that
it
is
board's
preference,
that
quote
whatever
a
terminology
would
be
that
51
of
the
residents
either
on
the
Block
within
a
one
block
radius,
you
know,
provide
positive
signatures,
but
then
you
know
we
have
the
meeting
and
they
make
a
fabulous
case
for
why
the
44
that
they
actually
turned
up
with
is
going
to
suffice.
And
then
we
can,
you
know,
make
the
call
at
that
time.
B
Right
but
that
doesn't
preclude
to
have
guidelines
so
whether
you
know
there
is
a
rubric
for
every
application.
So
whether
or
not
the
person
was
able
to
do
the
mailing
at
50,
they
will
be
scored
on
the
rubric
right
scoring,
high
or
low
on
the
rubric
doesn't
preclude
a
recommendation
from
the
board
being
positive
or
negative,
but
we
do
need
to
have
a
guideline.
So
if
anybody
voted
against
any
of
the
other
options
for
a
second
motion
because
you're
attached
to
another
one,
we
need
to
come
up
with
another
recommendation.
Shaheed.
L
Yes,
thank
you
very
much
Madam
chair.
Actually,
this
discussion
is
very
fruitful,
productive,
but
also
very
tricky
and
very
confusing
that
what
we
are
doing
last
at
least
one
hour.
Actually,
we
also
need
to
know
the
original
situation
of
every
Community.
We
live
in
a
immigrant
community
and
one
like
my
one
right
side.
Neighbor
is
Pakistani
my
left
side,
a
neighbor
is
a
Haitian
or
Chinese
or
whatsoever.
So
this
is
really
a
confusing
thing.
L
We
need
to
simplify
this
process
that
if
they
have
a
simple
majority,
then
there's
no
need
of
any
postcard,
so
if
they
have
30
percent
40
percent,
so
even
then
we
need
to
take
some
moderate
or
lenient
attitude,
because
this
is
also
a
part
of
integration
integration
with
the
American
society.
So
that's.
Why
please,
my
request
is
to
keep
this
process
simplified.
L
B
M
L
B
B
I,
don't
want
to
go
back
in
time,
but
I
want
to
say
that
there
were
plenty
of
people
that
were
very
uncomfortable
with
some
of
the
applications
that
came
before
this
board
recently
and
we
felt
like
we
didn't,
have
enough
information
and
we
also
didn't
have
enough
a
concept
of
whether
or
not
there
was
public
support
for
the
street
conaming.
So
here
we
are
yes,
I.
B
K
Do
does
the
person
who's
sending
out
these
postcards
of
the
group
they're
sending
them
do
they
have
a
way
of
I,
guess
very
simply
creating
the
postcard
in
such
a
way-
and
this
is
this-
is
sort
of
hooking
on
to
what
Shaheed
said
in
such
a
way
that
there
are
at
least
a
few
languages
on
there.
I
know
postcard
isn't
very
big,
but
you
know
just
with
respect
to
the
fact
that
we
are
in
a
multilingual
community.
K
B
Sure
it's
a
good
point.
Absolutely
it
would
have
to
be.
You
know
in
our
recommendations
for
postcards
when
we
got
to
that
point.
If
we
actually
can
decide
on
whether
or
not
we
want
to
do
postcards
absolutely
I'm
I
think
we
should
table
this
item
because
I
really
don't
I
I,
don't
really
don't
think
that
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
come
to
any
kind
of
motions
to
bring
before
the
general
board.
We
have
one
more
question
to
get
to
this.
B
So
the
last
question
was:
shall
an
exemption
to
these
procedures
be
made
for
members
of
service
that
includes
NYPD
FDNY
Department
of
Corrections,
dsny
and
I
just
want
to
preface
that
members
of
service
don't
have
to
be
limited
to
those
Four
City
agencies
that
I
just
listed?
It
could
also
be
members
of
the
military,
retired
members
of
the
military,
so
on
and
so
forth.
B
B
I
Obviously
I,
think
people
who
public
servants
do
a
really
amazing
work,
an
amazing
job
for
the
community,
but
you
can
serve
a
community
in
a
lot
of
different
ways
and
I
I
thought
that
you
know
anyone
who
serves
us
or
serves
the
community
should
just
the
standards
and
guidelines.
We're
setting
are
exactly
that
recommendations
and
guidelines
on
Street
code
naming
then,
if
they've,
you
know
committed
a
a
truly
amazing
service
towards
the
district
that
they
probably
would
get
it
anyway
and
so
I
didn't
think.
B
Thank
you
so
I
just
want
to
preface
so
your
your.
What
you're
saying
is
that
if
the
person
being
nominated
or
the
application
likely
based
on
the
Merit
of
their
service,
it
would
pass
anyway
with
the
city
council,
so
whether
we
had
an
exemption
or
not
didn't
matter,
did
I
get
that
correctly,
because
that's
sort
of
the
conversation
that
I
had
today
was
it's
even
it's
even
not
likely
that
something
like
that
would
come
before
us.
B
I
I
get
that
right,
I,
don't
necessarily
disagree
with
that
that
wasn't
exactly
what
I
was
thinking.
I
was
just
saying
that
if
they've
committed
such
acts
that
require
code
to
code
naming
even
if
it
did
come
to
us
I'm
sure
if
they
met
our
standards,
we
could
we
could
give
it
I
didn't
think
that
there
was
a
need
for
acceptance
to
begin
with,
but
I
also
I
I.
Actually,
don't
just
disagree
politically.
I
F
F
You
know
I
also
value
everyone's
service
to
as
public
servants,
but
also
just
thinking
from
like
a
strict
numbers
game.
You
know
you
can't
just
infinitely
Street
code
name,
something
and
you
know
busy
streets
might
have
a
lot
of
people
who
are
public
servants.
So
having
a
you
know,
just
having
a
good,
clear
set
of
criteria
on
how
we
can
decide
between
those
those
people,
if
that
makes
sense,
having
a
bar
to
meet
what
is
helpful
to
to
making
sure
this
is
a
meaningful
process.
B
B
C
C
No,
no
I'm
saying
that
the
the
Criterion
that
this
group
agrees
to
outline
shouldn't
state
that
there
shall
be
no
exceptions
for
members
of
service
that
it
just
the
language
wouldn't
be
in
there
everybody's
looking
funny,
maybe
I'm
responding
to
something
that
wasn't
said
we
can
skip.
My
point.
I
thought
you
I
thought
you
said
something
like
should
we
say
there
shall
be
no
exceptions
and
I,
don't
think
it
needs
to
be
stated.
If
there's
no
exceptions.
B
C
B
A
B
B
B
F
I
just
wanted
to
to
note
that
I
put
in
the
chat
that
one
of
the
issues
with
postcarding
is
potentially
that
it
could
be
a
large
financial
burden
to
people
if
they
live
on
a
block
with
a
lot
of
residents,
and
we
hadn't
explicitly
noted
that
so
I
just
wanted
to
mention
it
here
to
see
if
there
was
any
way
that
it
can
be
offset
by
the
community
board
or
if
there's
something
else.
That
would
maybe
make
me
less
objecting
to
the
idea
of
postcarding.
F
B
B
C
We
do
write
the
notice
we
don't
pay
for
the
mailing,
but
we
do
write
the
notices
that
the
lawyers
for
land
use
applications
then
send
out
by
certified
mail.
But
if
the,
if
having
the
paper
to
mail
I
mean
that's,
we
could
look
into
doing
postcards,
but
we
could
maybe
manufacture
the
postcard,
but
we
couldn't
pay
for
the
mailing
or
maybe
we
could,
if
the
board
wants
to
consider
the
possibility
of
us
sending
out
postcards
for
the
applicant
to
announce
the
public
hearings.
B
K
B
M
G
When
we
know
the
date
letting
these
people
know
hey,
please
let
your
various
attendees
and
community
members
know
that
this
is
happening.
That's
one
thing
and
then
the
second.
The
second
thing
too,
is
I,
hear
what
people
are
talking
about
in
terms
of
a
precedent
for
Milling
things
out,
and
so
maybe
this
is
something
for
Sean
to
beat
the
drum
over
omb's
head
that
you
always
do
in
terms
of
getting
a
budget
increase
where
it's
like
hey.
E
I,
don't
think
the
cost
of
notifying
community
on
behalf
of
whoever
the
organization
is
or
the
individuals
are
that
want
the
street
code
naming
should
be
a
concern
if
you
had
to
notify
100
people
in
this
case,
or
you
said,
the
most
expensive.
Postcard
is
70
cents
you're
talking
about
70
and
if
you're,
if
the
code
naming
is
that
important
to
the
group
or
the
individual
or
the
families,
whoever
they
are
I
think
they
should
fundraise.
E
E
Don't
if
it's
significant
enough
to
me
I
should
be
able
to
do
that,
whether
it's
fundraising
getting
family
members
and
friends
to
pitch
in,
like
it's
I,
know,
that's
the
important
unpopular
opinion,
but
if
at
70
cents
a
postcard
at
the
highest
rate
to
notify
a
hundred
people,
that's
70
and
I
mean
I
know.
That's
a
large
sum
for
some
families
in
our
community.
But
talking.
B
Yeah
and
notwithstanding,
let's
remember
that
one
of
the
last
Street
code,
namings
that
we
had
was
sponsored
by
11.99,
so
they've
got
pockets
I'm
going
to
take
two
more
comments
and
I'm
gonna
try
to
get
a
vote
for
a
second
motion
and
if
we
can't
then
I
will
just
bring
it
to
the
full.
The
full
board
that
we
weren't
not
able
to
come
to
a
consensus
on
this
item.
I
Actually
I
think
Sean
mentioned
my
idea
in
the
group
chat,
but
I
don't
know
if
it's
how
people
think
about
this.
So
instead
of
mailings
or
something
like
that,
I
mean
why
don't
we
just
have
them
show
proof,
and
maybe
this
gets
tied
into
like
the
community
organization
notice,
the
community
organizations
or
religious
groups.
I
Why
don't
we
just
have
them,
show
proof
that
they've
notified
the
the
council
member
and
that
way
the
council
member
can
decide
whether
they
want
to
then
send
it
through
their
mailing
list
or
their
normal
Community,
their
normal
channels
to
go
from
there.
That
way
we
can
guarantee.
We
will
be
able
to
verify
it.
It
will
address
the
cost
issue
and
I
mean
I.
I
Guess
you
have
a
situation
where
the
council
member
doesn't
get
or
there
their
staff
doesn't
do
it
and
that's
unfortunate
but
like
that
is
just
a
solid
step
that
they
can
take
to
make
sure
Community
knows,
including
groups
that
the
council
member
would
hopefully
be
tied
into
already.
That's
just
an
idea.
It
might
be
dumb.
I,
don't
know.
I
B
I
mean
I'm
personally
confused
if
I
mean
the
council.
Member
already
has
noticed
that
this
is
taking
place
because
it's
bringing
being
brought
To
Us
by
the
council
member.
So
if
you
want
to
put
the
onus
of
you
know,
notifying
the
constituents
in
the
one
black
area
on
the
council
member
I
don't
see
how
we
can
make
that
a
guideline
that
feels
It
Feels
Like
Us,
directing
the
council
members
activities,
and
we
can't
do
that.
B
B
A
A
C
So
you
know,
maybe
maybe
you
know
just
setting
the
criteria,
letting
the
groups
know
that
you'll
help
identify
additional
resources
for
to
help
them
meet
that
criteria,
noting
that
they
have
more
than
one
shot
at
it
and
then
also
as
been
said
before,
these
are
just
guidelines.
So
if
a
group
came
before
this
board
and
say
you
do
agree
on
a
51
or
or
a
40
33
whatever
that
agreement
is,
if
they
don't
quite
meet
that,
but
we
know
that
the
community
has
been
noticed
that
there's
a
public
hearing
and
nobody
comes
to
object.
C
If
you
get
close
but
there's
no
objection,
then
the
board
might
think.
Well,
you
know
they
did
their
best.
We
all
did
due
diligence
and
we've
heard
nobody
speak
out
against
us,
so
we
will
support
it
or
the
board
will
think
well,
we've
only
got
33
and
while
nobody
spoke
against
it,
we're
not
sure
we're
not
going
to
support
it,
but
it's
all
just
in
the
end
to
help
the
board
guide
the
board
through
a
public
hearing,
not
make
the
decision
on.
C
M
B
B
B
B
B
K
C
M
B
Okay,
so
with
my
vote-
or
you
know
my
so
we
had
five
there
plus
me
is
six.
So
it's
five
to
six
so
I'll
be
bringing
I'll,
be
bringing
51
no
mailing
as
an
option
for
emotion
and
40
percent,
with
the
postcard
as
the
other
option,
and
if
there's
any
discussion,
I'll
bring
up
what
we've
talked
about
here.
Okay,
do
you
have
any
last
words.
E
D
D
B
I
appreciate
everyone's
patience.
We
have
these
looks
like
we're
in
pretty
good
shape
with
the
rest
of
the
questions,
and
we
can
make
recommendations
on
those
and
then
we'll
just
go
back
to
the
full
board,
with
their
thoughts
on
these
two
recommendations
and
and
we'll
have
them
take
a
vote
on
these
okay
Sean.
Do
you
have
any
lasting
wisdom?
I
I
That's
fine,
so
the
the
only
question
I
had
is-
and
that's
just
to
think
through
before
it
goes
to
the
full
board-
is
whether
the
standards
or
like
the
application
and
the
petition
requirements
we're
setting
up
here
become
a
basis
to
filter
applications
that
would
be
considered
to
the
board
or,
if
an
applicant
fails
to
meet.
Let's
say
our
petition
number
or
fails
to
meet
some
requirement,
we'll
we're
still
going
to
consider
them
anyway
and
we'll
just
count.