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DATE: Thursday, June 16, 2022
LOCATION: Online meeting, 6:30 PM
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CB14’s Community Environment, Cultural Affairs & Economic Development Committee will host a community conversation with Christian Zimmerman, Vice President, Capital & Landscape Management, Prospect Park Alliance, regarding Prospect Park's Lakeshore Restoration Project.
B
We
are
having
a
community
conversation
with
representatives
from
the
prosperity
park
alliance.
Mr
christian
zimmerman,
who
is
the
vice
president
of
capital
and
landscape
management
with
the
alliance.
The
conversation
is
regarding
the
lakeshore
project
and
without
further
ado.
Actually,
let
me
just
take
a
moment
and
make
sure
I'm
not
missing
any
elected
officials
or
representatives,
and
it
doesn't
look
like
we.
I
am
so
mr
zimmerman
welcome
and
you
can
take
it
away.
C
Great,
I
am
happy
to
be
here.
I
know
I've
not
been
a
part
of
the
discussions
regarding
our
lake,
our
park
and
all
the
water
that
comes
to
kensington,
and
you
know
your
neighborhoods,
but
it's
a
it's
a.
We
have
a
project
that
I've
been
wanting
to
work
on
for
a
long
time
and
we're
getting
seed
money
and
finally,.
C
C
B
B
C
My
incompetence
in
this
stuff,
okay,
I
am
not
going
to
figure
out
how
to
do
this,
so
I'm
going
to
explain.
I
think
I
can
do
this
well
so
often,
as
you
all
know,
just
the
background
behind
this
every
time
we
have
a
heavy
heavy
rain
water
spills
out
of
the
park
and
goes
toward
your
neighborhoods
and
causes
problems.
C
We
try
and
control
it
and
we've
controlled.
It
really
really
well.
The
last
time
we
didn't
control
it
well
was
when
we
had
hurricane
what
was
it
on
re,
and
I
can't
remember
the
second
one,
the
two,
the
back
to
back,
where
we
got
16
18
inches
of
rain
in
here,
and
then
that
that
then
the
the
banks
of
the
lake
flooded
went
over
land
and,
as
you
know,
because
you
all
live
in
the
neighborhood
when
it
goes
over
land.
C
C
Well
we're
what
happens
more
often
and
I've
videotaped
it
I've.
I've
been
watching
this
for
a
long
time,
and
I
do
have
video
tape
of
or
I've
my
phones,
I've
been
filming.
This
is
the
problem
we
have
that
impacts.
Your
neighborhoods
is
not
the
lake
because
we
try
and
control
that,
and
yes
in
the
worst
situation,
we're
going
to
work
on
solving
that
as
well
like.
We
don't
ever
want
the
lake
to
leave
its
banks,
but
what
happens
is
parkside
avenue
prospect
park
southwest.
C
C
So
I
and
what
happens
when
we
looked
at
that
or
when
I
looked
at
it.
I
realized
there
are
very
few
catch
basins
that
control
that
water
we've
had
climate
change,
we're
getting
more
and
more
water
and
and
it
it
just
goes
over
land.
And
when
you
have
a
40
to
60
foot
wide
of
impervious
pavement
flowing,
it's
got
to
go
somewhere,
and
so,
if
you
think
of
the
peristyle
or
some
people
call
it
the
grecian
shelter.
C
The
catch
basins
are
filled
or
they've
been
cleaned,
but
the
pipes
aren't
working
functionally
or
there
just
aren't
enough
of
them
now.
So
that's
really
where
a
lot
of
the
problem
is:
it's
not
the
lake.
The
lake
is
kind
of
like
the
10
on
top
of,
and
that
just
makes
it
really
bad,
because
when
the
lake
breaks
the
banks,
it's
a
couple
days
of
just
a
constant
flow
of
water.
We
want
to
stop
that.
C
So
why
I'm
here
and
I'm
here,
because
with
sean
we've
been
working
together.
It's
like:
why
don't
we
solve
this
problem
instead
of
finger-pointing?
You
know
it's
parks,
department,
it's
dep,
it's
somebody's
fault.
It's
like
you
know.
We
need
to
fix
this
one.
I
don't
want
it
to
impact
the
neighborhoods,
but
it
also
hurts
the
park
because,
when
the
land,
when
the
water
goes
over
land,
it's
it
causes
erosion.
It
causes
scouring,
it's
no
longer
useful
in
that
sense
and
it
destroys
our
landscape
too.
So
it's
not.
C
I
won't
say
that
I'm
altruistic
and
you
know
in
the
sense
of
we
won't
want
to
help
you,
but
it
hurts
us
as
well
it's
the
park
as
well
and
the
user
experience,
because
if
you
come
into
the
park
and
it's
all
scoured
and
it's
destroyed
because
we
had
a
flood,
you
know
we
want
to.
We
want
to
solve
that
problem
as
well.
C
We've
been
asking
for
money,
we
just
the
time
was
right.
Shahana
hanif
is
very
interested
in
this
project
interested
in
this
project.
She
actually
spearheaded
from
the
funding
point
of
view,
and
we
pitched
we
pitched
it.
We
said:
look
we
want
to
do
flood
flood
mitigation.
We
want
to
fix
our
lake
issue.
C
C
It's
a
flood
mitigation
project,
it's
an
ada
accessibility
project,
it's
an
environmental
project
when
it
talks
about
ecological
restoration,
habitat
as
well,
and
it's
an
aesthetic
project
in
the
sense
of
creating
beautiful
views
and
seating
areas,
places
where
people
can
enjoy
and
we
received
three
million
dollars.
Now
we
asked
for
20.,
we
didn't
expect
we'd
get
20.
C
We've
done
this
in
the
past,
we've
been
successful.
So
it's
it.
What
that
then
helps
us
get
attention
and
get
continued
support
as
an
example
of
how
we
were
recently
successful
in
this
is
at
the
longmeadow
ball
fields.
We
have
seven
ball
fields
in
prospect,
park
and
brad
lander
way
back
wanted
to
reconstruct
all
of
them.
They
needed
they
hadn't
been
touched
since
the
80s,
so
they
needed
to
be
taken
care
of
and
redone
he
didn't
as
a
council
member,
he
doesn't
have
that
kind
of
money
every
single
year.
C
He
gave
us
enough
money
to
design
field
one
and
do
a
master
plan
that
showed
us
reconstructing
all
seven
fields
and
a
phasing
plan
that
showed
how
we
would
do
that
through
time,
and
we
got
that
approved
through
the
landmarks
which
we
have
to
go
through
for
approvals.
I
mean
the
community
as
well,
but
then,
and
then
the
public
design
commission,
and
we
just
said
as
we
get
money,
we
go
back
to
them
and
saying:
okay,
we're
now
going
to
do
phase
two
we're
now
going
to
do
phase
three
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
C
We're
now
at
the
final
phase.
So
we're
doing
fields
two
and
three,
which
are
the
last
fields
to
be
reconstructed.
So
through
that
momentum
of
brad
giving
us
the
initial
money,
we
were
able
to
build
and
we
received
mayoral
money
council
money,
not
just
his
money,
but
other
council
members
actually
gave
him
a
little
bit
and
then
brooklyn
delegation.
C
We
expect
that
to
happen
here
as
well,
because
it's
such
a
significant
project
and-
and
I
apologize
I'm
bouncing
around-
but
I
actually-
this
is
a
very
exciting
project
for
me,
because
it's
going
to
transform
this
area
and
it's
really
interesting
one
of
the
one
of
the
important
pieces.
Besides
flood
mitigation
is
accessibility.
C
Everyone
looks
at
this
area
and
thinks
it's
flat
which
it
is
relatively
flat.
So
from
an
ada
point
of
view
or
accessibility,
point
of
view,
you
would
think
it's
completely
accessible.
It
is
almost
completely
inaccessible
because
all
of
the
paths,
if
you
walk
that
area
and
look
at
it
and
if
you're
thinking,
if
you're
on
crutches,
if
you're
in
a
wheelchair,
if
you're
in
a
walker
or
whatever
those
paths,
are
in
horrible
shape,
you're
just
not
accessible
and
if
you're
an
elderly
person
walking
it's
treacherous.
It's
really
just
kind
of
horrible.
C
So
here
we're
doing
flood
mitigation,
we're
doing
ecological
restoration
work
and
we
can
do
accessibility
and
make
this
open
to
all
people
which
is
really
important.
And
it's
not
I'd,
be
happy
to
give
people
chores
and
point
all
of
this
out.
You
know
we
can
walk
it
and
people
will
see
just
this
is
really
unfortunate
and
it's
significant
because
it's
along
the
water
and
people
love
getting
to
the
water
looking
at
the
wildlife.
C
So
one
of
the
things
I
think
that
you're
interested
in
and
and
anytime,
you
have
questions
I'd,
be
happy
to
answer
this
we're
right
at
the
very
beginning,
but
we
are
going
to
start
the
funding
lands
in
july.
We'll
start
working
on
this
master
plan
this
year
for
sure
to
be
able
to
get
this
thing
going,
but
one
of
the
things
that
we're
looking
at
is
our
focus
is,
is,
if
you
think,
of
the
from
the
peristyle
to
park
circle
that
area
and
you
look
at
the
crown
of
the
road.
C
C
I
want
to
divert
that
water,
take
it
into
a
containment
area
and
control
that
just
get
it
off
the
road
and
collect
it
and
then
be
able
to
put
it
back
into
the
lake
at
some
point,
but
not
have
it
go
over
land
not
have
it
go
down
park,
site
or
park
circle,
but
but
remove
it
so
we'd
at
least
have
half
the
road
where
we
collect
that
water,
which
would
reduce
it
by
quite
a
bit.
I
mean
that's
a
lot.
That's
a
significant
volume
of
water.
C
C
C
This
would
help
us
reduce
the
use
of
city
water
to
feed
that
lake,
because
if
we
take
all
the
storm
water
and
collect
it,
then
we
can
move
it
back
in
at
some
point.
You
know
it's
we'll
need
to
hire
an
engineering
company
firm.
That
will
understand
that
and
be
able
to
do
that,
but
that's
that's
been
done
before
we're
not
doing
necessarily
anything
new.
What's
innovative
is
that
it's
we're
doing
it
in
a
historic
park.
C
I've
been
working
with
sean
on
this.
We
want
to
solve
this
problem,
and
she's
been
great
in
doing
this
because
we're
not
you
know
we're
not
finger
pointing
we're.
Not
you
know
it's.
The
parks
department
dep
actually
isn't
interested
in
this
as
well
they're
going
to
attack
they're
looking
at
parkside
avenue,
which
I
don't
have
jurisdiction
over.
I
don't
have
any
control
over
which
I
don't
know.
If
you
know
this,
but
from
parade
place
to
park
circle
on
parkside
avenue,
there
are
no
catch
basins.
C
There
is
no
place
for
that
water
to
go
except
to
coney
island
avenue.
That's
a
lot
of
water.
I
have
a.
I
have
a
video
today.
I
can't
remember
if
I
gave
sean
the
the
films,
because
I
filmed
storm
events
and
there's
one
to
two
feet
of
water.
There's
a
wall
of
water
going
down,
parkside
avenue.
You
can
see
it
because
you
have
it
next
to
the
cars.
It
can't
go
anywhere.
C
So
it
goes
to
coney
island
avenue,
which
is
not
great,
so
they're,
looking
at
diverting
they're
studying
that,
I'm
sure
it's
not
official
they're
still
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
do
this.
So
it's
not
official
but
but
they'd
like
to
be
able
to
divert
that
water
as
well.
Maybe
they
can
put
it
in.
You
know
we
have
all
these
artificial
turf
fields
in
the
parade
ground.
D
Hi,
so
I
live
on
east
10th
street
and
many
of
my
neighbors
have
been
experiencing
this
flooding.
It
also
comes
down
our
street,
it's
one
street
over
from
coney
island
avenue,
and
I
had
a
couple
questions
because
I've
been
observing.
You
know
this,
this
water
off
as
well,
both
just
generally
how
parks
perceives
the
problem
to
be,
and
also
what
kind
of
prioritization
is
going
to
happen.
D
So
I
guess
like
first
do
you
does
parks
understand
that,
like
the
water
coming
off
of
these
drives,
as
you've
mentioned
like
it's,
not
just
in
like
severe
thunderstorms,
this
happens
in
like
any
flash
flooding
of
any
small
amount.
It's
like
a
very
pervasive
problem
that
both
you
know,
floods.
You
know
I
do
see
the
flooding
down
coney
land
avenue.
I
see
it
off
the
loop
into
the
park
circle
as
you've
mentioned
and
watch
it
come
down
there.
It
also
comes
down
east
10th
street.
D
It
backs
up
the
sewers
into
my
neighbor's
basements,
which
has
been
apparently
going
on
for
decades.
You
know
it's
a
very
it's
a
very
big
problem
and
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
parks
knows
that
this
isn't
just
in.
Like
you
know,
I
know
you
mentioned.
The
lake
flooding
was
only
in
like
really
historic
storms,
which
I
that
does
track
with
my.
You
know,
biking
around
and
walking
around
the
park
in
the
rain,
but
you
know
just
wanted
to
check
that
the
the
basic
flooding
problem
is
very
common.
C
No,
so
so
I'm
here
as
the
prospero
park
alliance,
I'm
not
the
park
store,
so
I
can't
speak
for
them,
but
from
our
perspective,
so
what
I
was
talking
about,
the
the
lake
is
often
blamed
for
all
of
these
headaches,
and
so
what
I
was
trying
to
point
out
was
it's
not
it's
only
in
severe
events,
if
we
didn't
catch
it
right,
if
we
aren't
able
to
drop
the
lake
properly
yeah,
I
no
absolutely
you're
anytime
a
rain
event.
I
mean,
except
for
the
one
right
now
we're
not
getting,
but.
C
Rainfall,
if
you
think
about
it,
parkside
avenue
solid,
pavement
no
place
for
the
water
to
go
prospect
park.
Parkside
drive
that
parks
that
that
drive
no
place
for
the
water
to
go
prospect
park
southwest
southwest
no
place
for
the
water
to
go.
The
south.
The
south
drive
no
place
for
the
water
to
go
a
one-inch
rainfall
which
is
not
uncommon.
These
days
that
all
goes
there.
What
I'm
just
trying
to
do
is
differentiate.
What
I
want
people
to
put
I've
had
enough
people
blame
the
lake
for
all
these
ills,
and
it's
not.
C
We
really
control
it.
As
I
mean
we
really
do
a
good
job,
the
the
back-to-back
hurricanes
caused
the
you
know
we
just
couldn't
drain
the
lake,
give
a
12-inch
outflow
pipe
that
we
used
to
out
to
drain
the
lake
before
storm
events,
but
when
you
get
16
to
18
inches
of
rain
in
a
two
week
period,
all
of
the
all
of
the
park
drains
to
the
lake
it
all
collects.
So
that's
all
I'm
saying
is
absolutely
anytime.
You
have
a
rank,
significant
rainfall,
we
impact
you.
C
I
I
know
it
I
watched
it.
I
watched
this.
I
I'm
I'm
all
about
drainage,
because
poor
drainage
impacts
just
everyone
when
it
floods-
and
I
realize
we're
an
artificial
system
in
the
sense
that
you
know
delay,
but
it
needs
to
function
well
and
but
our
roadways
aren't
functioning
well
in
collecting
water.
C
Yes,
I
think
a
one-inch
rainfall,
it
all
flows
to
you
or
maybe
not
used
to,
but
it
goes
that
way.
It
goes
down.
I
use
coney
island
avenue
because
it's
an
easy
this
one.
It
goes
everywhere,
but
but
that's
the
idea,
that's
why
you
know
if
I
can
at
least
take
care
of
half
of
the
road
on
two.
You
know.
That's
that's
30.
C
C
You
know
square
feet
and
and
then
a
one-inch
rainfall.
It's
this
much
water
and
I
think
you
know
I'd
be.
I
hope
I'm
there
in
like
in
in
next
year
that
we
can
say
this
is
what
we're
solving
and
then
and
then
dep,
which
I've
met
with
dep
we
all
got
together.
Finally,
we
the
city
had
to
say
eric
adams
is
community
relations.
Person
and
sean
can
talk
about
this.
C
We
all
met
on
the
streets
like
look,
let's
quit
pointing
fingers,
let's
solve
this,
and
it
just
saw
what's
getting
solved,
it's
bigger
than
prospect
park.
So,
but
I,
but
if
I
can,
but
if
I
can
solve
what
we're
imp,
if
I
can
reduce
the
external
impacts
to
the
neighborhood
from
us,
then
it's
like
okay.
I've
done
my
part,
and
you
know
we're
talking
about
creating
seasonal
wetlands.
So
you
know
how,
in
some
areas
when
outside
the
city,
but
if
there's
a
flood
zone,
so
let's
just
say
it
the
right.
C
Now,
though,
when
we
get
a
flood
getting
into
a
hurricane
and
we
get
a
lot
of
water
and
the
water
goes
over
land,
it
just
creates
a
river.
But
what
if
we
shape
the
landscape,
that
it
can
take
a
one
to
two
inches
additional
rain?
You
know
in
a
depth
which
spreads
out
over
the
park
and
then
slowly
recedes
you
know.
Can
we
do
that?
C
How
can
can
we
can
we
create
this
wall,
this
barrier
that
and
I
use
the
bridal
path,
because
I
think
that's
a
perfect
example
of
where
we
can
actually
use
as
a
firewall.
If
you
will
a
water
wall
that
the
water
will
not
go
beyond
the
bridle
path,
it
doesn't
exist,
the
bridle
path's
all
kind
of
eroded,
and
you
don't
even
see
it.
C
But
if
you
look
at
the
bones,
are
there
if
we
dig
it
up
and
put
this
as
a
containment
area,
so
that
the
water
will
then
stop
at
that
point
and
we?
It
fills
up
tank
storage
tanks,
you
lack
of
a
better
word
and
then
once
we
do
that
we
can
put
that
as
after
the
lake
recedes,
then
we
can
put
that
water
back
into
the
lake
and
thereby
turning
the
flow
down
in
our
water
system.
So
we're
looking
that.
C
D
Sure
I
actually
had
another
question:
still:
okay
good
follow
up
on
that,
so
it
also
just
you
know.
You
mentioned
that
this
was
a
supposedly
a
20
million
dollar
project
and
it
has
a
lot
of
different
components
to
it
and
that
you've
received
three
million
dollars.
You
know
what
how
are,
how
is
how
how
does
prospect
park
want
to
prioritize
getting
flood
mitigation,
the
accessibility,
restoring
the
habitat,
adding
views
and
seating
areas
because
you
know
not,
you
know.
D
Obviously,
my
neighbors
are
very
concerned
about
the
flood
runoff,
but
also
you
know,
even
within
the
park,
you
can
see
flooding
around
the
str
from
around
the
lake
drive
and
so
forth,
like
really
impacting
a
lot
of
the
paths
there
as
well
so
like,
is
there
a
prioritization
that
will
be
happening?
How
will
you
know
if
there's
only
partial
funding,
what
what
what
will
get
prioritized.
C
So
we
actually
still
haven't
gotten
the
money
it's
still
june,
so
eventually
so
we
haven't
talked,
we
haven't
prioritized
that
that's
a
pros.
I
was
just
happy
to
get.
I
was
hoping
for
five
million
I'm
greedy,
but
I'll
take
three.
We
haven't
talked
about
that.
We
haven't
thought
about
that
yet
so
we
will
have
to
go
through
kind
of
the
design
process.
C
I
can
tell
you
that
from
me
personally
and
from
my
boss,
the
acting
president,
the
interim
president
james,
knows
who's
and
we're
still
looking
for
a
new
president
will
get
one.
But
from
our
point
of
view
we
want
a
very
visible
big
win,
because
we
want
that
to
we
don't
want
people
to
say.
Oh,
we
gave
you
three
million
dollars
and
that's
enough
and
we're
going
to
go
away.
C
So
we
can
do
it
all
in
a
small
amount.
That's
cost
effective.
Lakeshore
restoration
is
really
expensive.
Phragmites
removal.
We
get
dc
involved
to
state
you're,
removing
phragmites,
you're
you're,
doing
shoreline
stabilization,
that's
expensive
and
two
and
a
half
million
frankly
won't
cut
it
doing
path,
work
diverting
catch
basins,
getting
drainage
to
you
know.
Do
that
that's
more
effective!
C
C
C
C
Okay,
yeah,
so
that
I
mean
you
see
the
the
size.
If
we
put
that
all
under
the
fen
in
one
fence
I'd
be
strong
up,
I
mean
people
would
hate
me
for
taking
that
much
land
away
from
the
public
use.
So
we
just
couldn't.
We
wouldn't
do
that
anyway,
lakeside
the
skating
area.
That
was
four
phases.
I
don't
think
people
remember
that,
but
that
was
four
phases.
F
C
C
You
know
we
need
to
move
it
off
the
road
and
into
the
landscape,
and
the
challenging
part
will
be.
How
do
we
do
that
efficiently
and
and
to
what
storm
event
that
we
design
it
for?
I
think
you
know
everyone
designs
things
for
like
a
10-year
storm.
I
don't
know
if
we
should
be
doing
that
anymore.
Maybe
we're
doing
like
a
50-year
storm
or
you
know
it's
like
it's.
C
I
don't
yeah.
So
I
think
that's
that's
my
inclination.
Now
it
could
change,
because
I'm
not
the
one
that
gets
to
decide
everything.
I'd
like
to
be
able
to
decide
everything,
but
I
don't
get
to.
But
that's
my
my
feeling
is.
We
do
something
like
that,
because
it's
it's
high
profile.
We
meet
accessibility.
E
Thanks,
I
I
actually
heard
liz's
question
a
little
bit
differently,
rather
than
prioritizing
within
the
project.
As
you
see
the
in
its
entirety,
it
sounded
to
me
almost
like
a
question
about
how
how
is
parks
and
the
alliance
going
to
keep
your
respective
eyes
on
the
ball,
to
see
this
particular
project
through
to
fruition
and
and
not
to
speak
for
you.
E
But
I
I
have
a
strong
sense
that
there
is
a
lot
of
energy
behind
this
plan
and
a
lot
of
momentum
going
in
the
right
direction,
and
I
kind
of
wanted
to
point
out
too
that
this
isn't
happening
in
a
vacuum
that
that
the
enthusiasm
from
dep,
which
you
know
is
an
agency
that
was
worried
about
having
to
have
too
heavy
of
a
lift
in
an
asset
that
isn't.
You
know
that
isn't
recognized
as
their
own.
Now
now
sees
a
partnership
and
some
impetus
that
they
can
support.
E
C
A
C
E
So
and
dep
doesn't
install
catch
basins
unless
there's
a
unless
there's
a
a
capital
project
to
piggyback
on
so
there's
there's
reason
to
be
hopeful
that
you
know
that
this
is
the
project
that
will
you
know
that
will
facilitate
that
piggyback
ride
and
then
I
think
d.o.t
might
also
have
a
role
to
play
too
to
bring
in
but
and
then
the
other
collaboration.
That's
supporting.
E
This
is
the
collaboration
of
the
council,
members
and
shahana
hanif
was
was
mentioned,
and
I
think
she
spearheaded
is
bringing
a
lot
of
energy
to
it,
but
it's
supported
by
by
rita
joseph
as
well
and
and
there's
another
council
member.
Thank
you
yeah,
then,
on
top
of
that
is
this
other
layer,
which
is
that
all
of
the
other
capital
projects
in
the
vicinity?
E
All
if
I
understand
correctly
christian
correct
me,
if
I
don't
say
it
right,
but
all
of
those
other
projects
have
a
water
capture
or
you
know,
a
water
infrastructure
component,
so
the
the
pathway
through
parade
grounds
and
the
ball
fields
and
the
parade
grounds.
The
new,
the
the
new
installation
of
the
game
space
all
has
a
a
water
runoff
component
too.
So
nothing
else
is
going
being
built
in
the
park
that
doesn't
have
that
in
in
mind.
C
No
you're
right
well
in
the
parade
ground,
so
I
worked
on
that
from
the
early
nine
mid
90s
john,
when
we
worked
with
dep
none
of
except
for
where
the
field
house
is
when
we
work
with
dep
all
of
that
water
has
to
stay
on
the
parade
ground.
None
of
that
goes
on
to
caton
avenue
or
ties
in
anywhere.
We
were.
We
were
required
so
there's
about
twenty
four
leaching
basins:
big
leaching
basin,
so
self-containing,
so
because
it
they
didn't,
want
one.
C
E
And
then
I
have
just
a
quick
question
and
then
and
then
I'll
turn
my
I'll
go
back
to
mute,
but
is
there
more
impervious
pavement
on
these
borders
of
of
the
park?
And
I
don't
know
even
how
to
ask
this
to
say
since
this
time
or
that
time,
but
has
there
been
an
increase
in
laying
down
impervious
payment
pavement
and
then
one
last
thing:
if
you
could
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
you
drain
the
lake,
because
you
know
it's
not
a
big
gush
it's
over
days,
so
it's
more
of
a
trickle.
C
So
there's,
no
all
the
paths
in
this
portion
of
the
park
are
original
to
the
the
original
design,
so
the
1865
plan
to
the
past.
The
problem
that
we
have
is
that
so
I've
been
here
32
years
and
none
of
them
have
been
none
of
the
catch
basins
have
been
cleaned
in
those
32
years
on
the
park
paths.
So
if
you
look
at
them,
they're
really
important,
so
they
can't
go.
The
water
just
goes
over
land
and
if
it
goes
over
our
land,
it's
eventually
going
to
get
to
in
that
area.
C
Some
of
it
will
go
into
the
landscape,
but
a
lot
of
it
in
heavy
rains
goes
over
land
onto
the
park
drives
or
parkside
avenue
and
out
to
the
street
we
need
to
you
know
we
we
we'd
like
to
fix
that
we
just
don't.
Have
I
mean
it's
a
big
part,
we've
been
doing
a
lot
of
it
and
as
we
we
proceed,
we
we
remove
that
that.
C
We
mitigate
that
problem,
but
you
know
we're
not
doing
that.
We're
hoping
that
dep
actually
is
interested
and
they've
not
committed
because
they
didn't
quite
know
what
to
do
but
we're
doing
half
of
the
road
in
the
park,
because
I
can,
in
this
project
I'm
not
doing
the
other
half
but
they're
interested
in
seeing
if
they
can
help
us.
So
I
mean
it
really
we're.
Finally,
I
don't
know
what
what
happened
the
planets
aligned.
C
C
Elected
officials
well
getting
shahana
really
excited
about
it.
I
mean
she
was
the
once
we
got
her
excited
about
it
and
then
she
got
rid
of
joseph
and
crystal
hudson.
There
wasn't
a
lot
of
arm
twisting.
It
was
really.
This
makes
sense.
This
is
helping
a
it's
a
big
area.
I
mean
we're
talking
a
major
impact.
It's
going
to
take
time,
it's
probably
going
to
take
five
years
to
do
all
of
it,
but
maybe
a
couple
more
construction,
wise,
but
you
know
everybody
there
wasn't
there
wasn't
any.
C
Dp
instantly
got
interested
when
they
found
out.
We
were
serious
about
what
we
were
doing
like
they,
they
weren't
in
they
weren't
isolated,
they
weren't
an
island
and
saying,
oh,
we
have
to
do
it
all
ourselves
and
once
they
saw
that
they
had
partners,
everyone
got.
You
know
it's
a
great
project,
it's
really
an
interesting
project
and
just
from
design
but
environmentally
and
community
public.
C
It's
it's
it's
it's
like
the
ravine
restoration
for
me.
It's
that
whole
redoing,
the
waterfalls
that
water
course-
and
it's
I
mean
it's
such
an
impactful
project.
I
can't
think
of
anything
negative
about
it.
Recreating
islands.
You
know
it's
got
all
the
bells
and
whistles.
It's
got
all
these
things
that
we're
checking
off
we're
doing.
C
You
know
there
isn't
a
constituent.
There
isn't
a.
I
mean
birds,
love
it.
Everybody
loves
it.
It's
just
like.
There's
nothing,
we're
not
doing
anything.
You
know
we're
doing
historic
preservation,
but
we're
doing
it
in
an
ecological
restoration
area,
and
you
know
it's.
I
can't
think
anything
negative
about
it,
except
that
it's
it's
a
big
area
and
it's
going
to
take
time,
but
I
think
we
can
solve
this
problem
and-
and
the
alliance
is
committed.
This
is
our.
This
is
our
next
big.
So
you
know
when
we
talk
about,
we
did
the
ravine.
C
If
you
want
to,
I
understand
you
know
people
are
well.
What's
your
commitment,
we
did
the
ravine
in
the
90s.
Then
we
did
the
low
water
around
the
boathouse
that
section
in
the
early
2000s
and
then
we
waited
we
need
to
raise
money.
Then
we
did
lake
shore
lakeside,
that's
26
acres,
now
we're
up
in
the
northeast
on
the
east
side
in
flatbush,
that's
27,
acres
and
all
of
a
sudden
we're
already
pivoting-
and
this
is
our
next
pick,
so
we're
still
working
on
the
northeast.
C
B
C
I
think
so
rain
gardens
are
one
solution,
so
we
haven't,
you
know.
Clearly
we
haven't
designed
this,
but
it
they'll
be
probably
part
of
the
solution
you
know
diverting
the
water
into
the
soft
landscape
is
is
important,
so
how
they
look
what
we
do,
but
rain
gardens
definitely
will
be
discussed
and
and
incorporated
if
they
can
the
biggest
issue
that
we
have.
C
Issue's,
not
the
right
word.
The
the
biggest
challenge
is
the
amount
of
water,
and
can
we
create
rain
gardens
large
enough
to
accommodate
these
big
storm
events
and
not
take
that
away
from
the
public,
because
you've
got
to
remember
people,
you
know
there.
Are
there
isn't
a
lot
of
land
over
there
for
people
to
picnic
to
sit
to
recreate
you
know.
So
if
we
create
a
rain
garden,
that's
not
necessarily
a
place
that
people
then
can
hang
out
and
enjoy,
because
it's
just
not
it's
a
different
kind
of
thing.
C
B
C
I
think
stay
active,
I
think
thank
shahana
and
and
rita.
You
see
them
thank
them
for
their
support
on
this.
Thank
thank
mayor
adams.
He
gave
us
a
million
dollars.
We
didn't
expect
that
we,
you
know
the
folk.
You
know
we
we
we
wanted.
You
know
we're
looking.
So
what
we're
looking
at
doing
for
the
future
is
so
what
we
did
at
lakeshore
when
we
built
a
new
skating
facility
in
that
whole
area.
C
One
of
the
things
that
the
council
brokered
with
bloomberg,
the
firmware
was
you,
give
two
and
a
half
million
we'll
give
two
and
a
half
million.
So
it's
like
we're
all
in
together,
but
we're
gonna
partner
in
that
and
that's
what
they
did
so
they
gave
two
and
a
half
for
four
years.
Each
one
gave
you
know
it's
like
you
give
to
an
f
we'll
give
two
and
a
half
and
that's
how
we're
looking
at
this.
C
C
C
C
Let's
just
be
diligent,
though,
and
get
this
that
kind
of
thing
and-
and
I
think
that's
why
creating
that
first
project,
as
this
see
you
know,
gets
everyone
excited
but
shahana's
already
on
board
she's,
not
she's
she's,
all
in
it's
just
then
she
needs
to
sway
the
brooklyn
delegation
to
do
that,
because
she
doesn't
have
that
kind
of
money.
You
know
to
every
year
her
capital
allocation
is,
you
know
the
council
members
only
have
I
mean
so
much,
but
the
brooklyn
delegation,
the
council
president.
They
you
know
she
can
fund
it.
E
And
just
remind
everybody,
our
bigger
capital
projects
do
get
do
get
funded
in
phases
from
our
road
bridges
to
to
you
know:
transit
station
house
projects,
you
know
the
big
stuff,
never
the
funding,
never
came
in
one
fell
swoop.
So
it's
not
out
of
the
ordinary
to
get
to
get
your
starter,
your
your
nest,
egg
and
then
hatch
something
and
then
get
more.
C
B
C
C
C
C
It
may
be
another
six
months,
just
the
approval
process,
there'll
be
a
lot
of
eyes
on
this
and
it
has
state
the
other
thing
that
we're
actually
doing
is
because
we're
doing
if
we
do
it
just
to
give
you
I'll,
I'm
sorry,
as
I
bounce
I
tend
to
bounce
around,
when
I'm
talking,
I
apologize
we're
we're
going
after
state
grants
to
do
this
as
well.
We
we're
not
there
yet,
because
we
don't
have
the
data
a
lot.
C
C
The
one
that
we've
looked
at
in
the
past
has
been
up
to
five
million
dollars,
which
would
be
great
and
then
and
and
the
city
would
love
that
if
we
did
a
matching
grant
even
for
two
million
dollars,
you
know
the
city
would
love
that
here
we're
having
the
state
of
with
the
council
and
the
mayor.
You
know
it
all
feeds
everyone.
It's
a
win-win.
C
G
Thank
you
so
much
for
for
the
opportunity
and
for
the
presentation
I
really
enjoyed
it.
I
just
wanted.
I'm
sure
you
know
about
it,
but
just
wanted
to
make
sure
it
is
out
there.
So
city
has
a
six-inch
land
cover
data
that
gives
you
the
basically
impervious
surface
and
permeable
surfaces
so
for
the
park.
It
is
relatively
easy
to
calculate
how
much
impervious
surface
you
have.
G
C
H
Thank
you
no,
this
is,
this
has
really
been
fascinating
and,
and
especially,
as
you
know,
christian,
as
you
know,
we
we
get
the
brunt
of
it
after
I
know
it
goes
down
east
10th
street
and
then
a
lot
of
it
ends
up
on
church
avenue.
Our
bid
goes
from
conillin
avenue
to
flatbush,
so
this
has
really
been
helpful
and
I'm
so
glad
the
dep
is
being
is
happy
about
this
and
is
looking
forward
to
partnership.
H
C
C
B
I
just
I
saw
a
question
dropped
in
the
chat
and
I
also
see
a
hand
raised
from
florencia.
So
I'll
read
the
quick
question
and
then,
for
instance,
you
can
ask
your
question
and
just
to
be
mindful
of
the
time
we
there's
a
question
from,
and
I'm
pleased
to
give
me
if
I
don't
get
your
name,
the
pronunciation
name
correctly
here
mahendra
as
a
question.
I
know
you
mentioned
that
something
that
was
going
to
make
an
impact
needed
to
be
done.
C
I
think
you
know
that
we're
looking
at
here,
most
of
what
what
I've
been
saying
right
now
is,
frankly,
it's
it's
my
vision,
it's
what
I've
been
thinking
about
and
how
to
do
this,
and
you
know
now
we
got
the
money
so
now
we
can
actually
really
look
at
it
or
we'll
get
the
money
and
we'll
really
look
at
it's
like.
Where
are
problems,
area
areas.
C
I
did
the
broad
brush
and
now
we'll
get
into
defined
assessment
of
where
the
areas
of
real
impact
are
in
areas
that
are
lesser,
less
important
in
the
sense
of
as
an
impact.
You
know
they
need
to
be
done,
but
they're
really
just
shoreline
restoration,
something
like
that
and
then
that
will
probably
you
know,
tell
us
from
a
point
of
view
what
we
need
to
do.
First,.
E
I
E
Mark
and
then
I
would
just
I'd-
also
encourage
the
the
community
board
also
asked
for
input
from
community
members
on
budget
requests
and
stuff
like
that.
So
there
are
a
lot
of
opportunities
to
weigh
in
and
christian,
I
suspect,
you'd
be
willing
to
come
back
and
in
co-chairs
I
suspect
you
would
want
to
have
christian
come
back
as
the
plan
unfolds
and-
and
you
know
there
can
be
response
in
the
early
phases
as
well.
Yeah.
C
I
mean,
I
think
if
you
heard
my
first,
you
know
when
someone
asked
me
what
you
know
for
that
initial
money.
What
we
spend
on.
I
talked
about
flood
mitigation
and
reducing
the
water.
I
didn't
talk
about
lakeshore,
restaurants,
this,
but
that's
my
you
know
gut,
but
but
I
think
and
that
that's
reducing
the
water,
the
impact
into
the
neighborhood
and
having
an
impact
in
the
park.
But
you
know
so
that's
not
a
needs
assessment.
C
That's
that's
a
visual
assessment
and,
from
my
point
of
view
and
you
having
followed
this,
but
I
think
we
still
need
to
do
the
official.
You
know
say
what's
the
most
important
thing,
but
I
think
that
will
help
us
get
more
money
boom.
We
just
reduced.
I
don't
know
you
know
5,
000
gallons,
a
minute
into
the
neighborhood
great
fun
more.
You
know
as
opposed
to
well.
We
created
this
nice
shoreline
and
the
and
the
egrets
are
happy.