Brooklyn, New York Community Safety Committee Meetings, 22 Nov 2022

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DATE: Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 6:30 PM
LOCATION: Online via Webex

AGENDA
1. FDNY fire prevention and safety presentation – FDNY representative, Fire Safety Education Unit
2. NYPD state of the precinct report – DI Bruce Ceparano, Commanding Officer, NYPD 70th Precinct
3. Other business

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We're live okay, hi everyone- um and this is my co-chair. Florencia I, I I, know that all of you know her already um so um I just wanted to introduce Captain Gerald Raco who's, presenting for the fire prevention safety, education unit. It's.

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Would you like me to start us up yeah.

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Take take it away. Okay,.

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Good evening, everyone thank you for being here: uh I'm captain Gerald rock with the fire safety education unit. It's a unit, that's out of Fort Totten Queens, it's manned by firefighters, from throughout the city. We go to senior centers. We go to schools, uh Community meetings such as this, of course anyway, there's a gathering of people we're going to be there to educate them, teach them to do's and the don'ts of fire safety.

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uh We want to encourage the them to have a plan practice that plan prevent the fires that we can't prevent and be prepared for the ones that we can't prevent. You know you may not be a smoker, but your neighbor below you smokes in bed. That's something you have no control over. You cannot prevent that fire, but you could have a plan that if that far it does extend your premises, you will know what to do. You know how to stay safe. It's been a terrible year right. We started last January.

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Almost a year ago, already 17 people on 181 Street in the Bronx perished in a fire. Many of those people should be here today and a lot of things went wrong up there and we're not criticizing. We want to learn from you, know, mistakes, and we want to try to avoid those mistakes.

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uh There are facts with that fire. One fact is that fire did start with a space heater. Okay, that is a fact that started with a space heater. Was that space heated defective or was it misused? Was it not being used properly? You know, was it defective? Was the court Freight was the cat chewing on the court and it caused an issue? Was the core damaged when it was purchased? We don't know, or maybe it was not used properly.

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Maybe it was used closer than three feet to any combustible right, any space heater and is the it's the season now cold weather's coming you're going to see more of these fires, but any space heater should be uh at least three feet away from anything combustible three feet away, and you know get that room hot, get that room warm, but absolutely do not go to bed with that space. Heater plugged in you know a lot of people say just shut it off. I say more than that, just unplug it just to be safe.

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You want to make sure that that's basically is not going to cause an issue like it did up on 181 street, so that was how that fire started. That is a fact. The fight did start with the space heater uh did they have alarms up there. They had numerous alarms. The alarms did their job, it's 10 30 in the morning, and many people heard those ones and many people did nothing because they became complacent when I joined the fire department many years ago.

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We walked into that Academy and there's a big sign and that sign says complacency kills and that sign is still in the fire academy. Okay, complacency kills. People heard those alarms, people ignored the alarms because you know maybe they're thinking a woman down. The hallways is burning her food for the third time this week, or maybe the gentleman next door is smoking in hallway again, so these alarms activated and these alarms were ignored and as they're being ignored, the fire doubles in size.

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Every 30 seconds it gets bigger and bigger okay, so the alarms were the second problem being ignored. Third problem: the door fact that door to that fire department was open. You know somebody said that it's was uh defective. It should be self-closing because it's a fireproof building. uh We know for a fact that that door was open, whether it was effective. Somebody else said it was chopped open. We may never know, but that door was on open as that door is opened.

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The fire extends out of that fire department into the hallway and worse than the fire. Almost is that smoke which will get the people before the Flames so that building filled with smoke. Okay and then people above the fire people above the fire most of them I mean we don't know for sure, but most of them were safe above the fight, because it's a fireproof building, it's very, very difficult for fight to travel in a fireproof building, because it is concrete and steel, so very difficult for fire to travel.

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I've seen it once in my ears almost impossible, but it can happen, but still people are safe in their Apartments people. In that building came out of their Apartments. They were safe in their Apartments, but they came out. They opened those doors and they came out into those smoke-filled hallways and stables and that's where many of them perished. Okay, so once again we don't want to criticize anyone.

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We don't know exactly what happened up there, but we know that things should have went better and usually when one thing goes wrong say like the space heater too close to something, then it just snowballs and something else happens and it snowballs and just numerous mistakes or whatever I'm, not saying any more mistakes, but numerous things cause the fatalities that we had and 17 people died. That was the start of the year right. There was a bad fire right after that.

C

We had two kids uh brother and sister teenagers, early teens, Lower, East Side of Manhattan fire in their apartment, the mother, critical condition the mother's boyfriend died. Those two kids absolutely saved their own lives by climbing down the electrical conduit on the side of the building. From the fourth floor, I, don't know if anyone remembers seeing that, but what a scene they got themselves out. They got down the side of building Spider-Man and they saved their home lives. That was a lithium battery fryer. Okay, we've had many fatalities this year because of lithium batteries.

C

Why is it so common now? Why is it so so that too many lithium battery fires are out there? The bottom line is some years back there weren't as many scooters right scooters were something for maybe a rich kid or whatever they weren't cheap. But now prices have have come down, they're, more affordable and what you get with the scooter you get. Maybe one lithium battery is one ever enough.

C

Of course, not they're not gonna, run that battery down and then wait to have it charge back up, so they'll go out and buy a second battery and even a third and fourth battery, and then I can spend full price for a regular. You know battery they're going to buy something generic, something half the price and you get what you pay for, and sometimes you get a lot more than you pay for right and we've had many lithium battery fires.

C

uh We just lost the girl not too long ago on College Point, eight-year-old girl, lithium battery fire with awesome people a few weeks back lithium battery fire, big big problem. You know we find lithium batteries and the computers, the e-bikes. Of course, even the cell phones, I've, had people sitting at their laptops and the laptops go on fire bottom line. Try to buy something quality local for that generic product, make sure the charger is the real deal, not another generic charger.

C

That's half the price, that's going to cause a problem and absolutely no e-bikes in the houses. You know people bring them into the houses to keep them safe and they plug it in. Where do they leave it? They don't bring it to their back bedroom they're, going to bring it right to the front door, leave it there and when it goes on fire.

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What's the problem with that that block and dead egress right, that exit is going to be blocked by a fireball and also it impedes our entrance into that fire department makes a little more difficult for us. So no e-bikes. If you know that go on, uh please you know put a stop to it.

C

If possible, the e-bike should be outside charged outside with a quality product, absolutely not charged when you're sleeping you know, even your laptop, your phones don't charge them when you sleep and a lot of people are sleeping with their phones on the charger, okay and they get warm and sometimes when they get older, they get hot, and that is a fire week to happen. You know absolutely have your phone by your bedside when you are sleeping God forbid, you are trapped any better.

C

You want to have that phone to call 911 from your bedroom, but get that phone charged and unplug it before you go to bed make sure you are going to be safe. You know that's something we could control. uh We have fires, many different reasons. Of course I would say: fires do not discriminate. I have three firemen for my firehouse alone: three fireman for my firehouse two houses burnt to the ground, the other one suffered uh complete damage to his basement. That was a fairly new house.

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That house was eight years old and eight years prior, when the Builder built that house, one of the electricians put a staple Through, the Wire okay, it did not pose a problem for eight years, 1 30. In the morning, eight years later, that house goes on fire. My friend almost lost his wife and daughter in that fire. Okay, so that's something you cannot control, maybe that but electrical fires that you can control ones with extension, cords power strips right. We all use them, especially if you know all the building. You don't have enough.

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Outlets power, strips extension, cords right, big problem. People like to do this: they get a pallet strip, then they piggyback it with an extension cord. They want to plug in as many things as possible. Big big problem. Okay, big problem, extension cords power strips- we do not use these for anything that makes hot. Nor do we use these for anything that makes cold okay.

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This is fine for your computer, the printer, the monitor, fine, your TV, the cable box, fine, nothing hot and nothing cold, and if those appliances need to be plugged directly into an outlet, okay, I know it's hard, sometimes because we don't always have enough Outlets the correct way to do this, to update the uh electric and, of course, that is very expensive and people just aren't going to do it so try to be smart, always inspect the chords, make sure it wasn't damaged.

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You know, even though it presents to be new, it could have been damage and shipping could have been uh not made properly or manufactured. Maybe the road into a tune on it, maybe the dog and a cat with chewing on it right whether they chew on it, because it's a plastic and it's sweet. That's where the rodents the animals like to chew on this, and you may not notice it right, because it's under the rug. We don't want to do that. You know it should be visible that way.

C

If it is sparking, if it is smoking, you're gonna see it right away. So I did some electrical stuff. You could you could try to prevent most common room for the fire is still the kitchen. Okay, people need to eat a lot of people like to cook. Sometimes they forget their cooking. They got their fish flown in the pan. They got the chicken going.

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They go to their girlfriends right next door for what they say is going to be a.

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And now they leave that apartment, they run it to a friend. Now it's five minutes. You know it's 15 minutes and they come back to a grease fire. What do we not put on a grease fire? Absolutely no water on a grease fire, you're gonna, see things become a lot more a lot worse. So the best thing shut. That pot of pan down always have a tight, fitting lid or cover for that uh pot, and we shut it down and we cover it, get that tight fitting a little cover the privacy of the oxygen.

C

Okay, don't try to see what it looks like two minutes later, because you're gonna introduce that oxygen and that's going to light up in your face, there's a good chance that you will burn yourself and possibly burn your house. Leave that covered. Let that cool down, if you don't have a tight, hitting lid or cover baking soda, is a cheap fix. I used to be a dollar, it's probably two dollars now, whatever the inflation and everything baking soda sodium bicarbonate.

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This is what you'll find in a fire extinguisher baking soda works very good on a fire shut down that PIN and sprinkle on baking. Soda that will put the fire out have one by your stove. Everyone probably has one in their fridge, which is not going to work for you. It's going to be like a brick.

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You want it to be like a paddle, keep it at room temperature, shake it up once in a while, and if you need it, you have it right by the stove to put out that fire sodium bicarbonate is what you'll find in the fire extinguisher right. It's a great tool. It's a cheap tool. You can get a fire extinguisher for about thirty dollars, Home Depot Target, your local hardware store great tools; still people have them and they don't know how to use them. Where do most people store them?

C

They want to put it under the sink out of sight, and then they put in that you know cleaners and their dish rags, and then you need it and you can't find it. This should be mounted on a wall at the entrance to that kitchen, or you know that room where you may need it outside the Boiler Room. You don't want to have it in the corner of the kitchen, where you have to run past the Flaming stove to get to it.

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Okay, now you don't know how to use it you're using it improperly, it's not doing any good. Now you have to run past the flame to exit the kitchen. Have it mounted at the entrance of the kitchen Out Of Reach of the little ones, because it gets a little heavy and you don't want them to get hurt, have a drop on their head or a feet on their feet all right and know how to use it. We have an acronym that acronym is pass p-a-s-s, there's a pin.

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You have to pull a pin you're going to aim it low right. A lot of people want to aim it at the Flames. That's not going to do any good, aiming at the base of the fire squeeze the trigger and sweep it back and forth. Pass pull a pin, Aim It Low, squeeze it and sweep it, expel a whole extinguish extinguisher uh it's a great tool. Most extinguishers will last you eight to ten years, depending on the manufacturer for 30 bucks. You know it's three dollars a year.

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It's a great tool know how to use it all right. Abc extinguisher, that's good for all fires. It's good for combustibles, grease fires, as well as electrical fires right. Are there any smokers out there not too many smokers left right, but if you are a smoker just be advised, the best place, of course, is outside and cigarette butt could smolder for up to two hours. So if you're a smoker put that cigarette in water, that will definitely put it out right do not smoke when you medicated when you're drinking.

C

When you tie it, you know, let's smoke outside when possible, keep everyone safe and uh one of the best tools be working to smoke. Alarm combination, carbon monoxide, alarm, okay, so everyone should have them I'll talk more about that later. But this is what also we have coming from the kitchen. We have other uh other problems. We have natural gas. What does natural gas smell like natural gas smells like rotten eggs? It's not a good odor natural gas is actually odorless and they add the Odom or Captain is put into that natural gas.

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That way, if it is escaping we're gonna call home. Do we call that husband at work and let them know what do we call a super and let him know leave a message through call: Con Edison stay on hold for 20 minutes know what content does you have to after you get in touch with them? They call 9-1-1. So if you smell, guess, you're not sure do not hesitate to call 9-1-1. You may be. On the fifth floor, you smell a little bit, you think, but it's not coming from the fifth floor.

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It's not coming from the fourth floor. It's coming from the second floor and it's come now good. On the second floor from the stove, that's been left on or from a defective hose right. It's leaking on the second floor, no one's home. On the second floor, no one smells it there, no one's from the third floor. No one smells it fifth floor. You don't only went home by the time it got to you, it's dissipated, but it is ready to blow.

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So if you think you smell natural gas, do not hesitate, call 911 we'll be there in minutes. Call from outside that apartment make sure you don't smell gas. When you don't make enough phone call, because you know electronic device could trigger an explosion, the light switch. We don't want to touch anything like that, make the call from outside. Let us get there. Let us determine what it is right and carbon monoxide monoxide. We call that the silent killer, okay, silent killer, you don't smell it, you don't taste it you don't see it.

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Carbon monoxide comes from burning every time you turn on the stove. You are producing carbon monoxide. It is an acceptable amount or should be, but not always right, but every time you turn the stove on it. It's going to come from the stove. It comes from the heater. It comes from your car exhaust. That's carbon monoxide comes from bearing okay. What happens this time of year? The holidays coming up just a couple of days away how many people started cooking today for Thanksgiving on Thursday.

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Some people started cooking today tomorrow, the oven the stove is all going to be on all day. Okay and then you get up early Thursday and you cook some more and the problem with that is a lot of people. Don't have their windows open, it's a little chilly out, so your windows are closed from now, until April, right but you're cooking and that Co that carbon monoxide is building up in your house for the next few days and they talk about tryptophan in a turkey that you know makes people go to sleep.

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They fall asleep right after that meal. You know, maybe a glass of one or two helps you fall asleep, but it's also carbon monoxide poison. It's carbon monoxide, building up in your house over those days of cooking, okay, that's getting into your system and it's making you sleepy. So that's part of it. Also, every time you cook, I, don't care. If it's you know, 16 degrees out, Crack, that window open a little get some fresh air in it. Make sure you don't have any carbon monoxide buildup make sure you have those alarms?

C

Okay, we used to push alarms right. You have to have your lumps. You have to have working alarms. We tell everyone make sure you have enough what I feel I'm doing lately is you know telling people how to respond to that long because people they have the alarms, but they still don't respond properly right, one, eight one street everybody heard those alarms, everybody. You know a lot of people didn't call about those lumps and then people reacted uh not in a good way when they left the safety of their Apartments. Many people right.

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uh You have to know what to do. I have a friend who's, educated and a little older, and she surprised me a few months back because she had two independent carbon monoxide alarms. She had one in her living room, one in her kitchen. Excuse me one in her living room, one outside her bedroom and the alarms did their job right. When we go to sleep, our ears go to sleep.

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I just go to excuse me and nose goes to sleep right. You cannot smell smoke when he was sleeping, but of course our ears don't go to sleep. You'll hear the dog you'll hit a fire truck you'll hear the smoke, alarms that Cobble along, if you have it so the alarms in her apartment did their job, both alarms activated at the same time, and the alarms were independent. They weren't interconnected. Both lumps activated woke her up and what did my educator friend do?

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She threw one out the door and she put the other one in the freezer because she thought both of them were defective at the same time, highly highly unlikely for too long speed defective at the same time. So.

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Carbon monoxide alarms went off, one went out the door one in her freezer and what did she have? She had carbon monoxide coming from her neighbor's burner? Okay, so it's not enough to just have these alarms. We have to know how to respond. Okay, do we leave our apartment or do we stay there upon them? Do you live in a fireproof building or non-fireproof building? Okay, you have to be familiar with your surroundings.

C

So definitely know what kind of building you live in and definitely know what kind of building you're visiting do you go stay with your mom on the weekends? Maybe you live in a fireproof building and she is not a fly proof you go on vacation or you want a fireproof hotel or you in a non-fry-proof, Motown. Okay, what's the difference, non-fly proofing in almost all cases, six stories or less fire skates, that's going to be non-fire proof, private dwellings, non-fire proof buildings like that.

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It does not matter where that fire is fire travels very, very quickly. You have to get out and stay out. Okay, if you're in a fly proof building it's a little different. If the fire is in your apartment, you do your best to get out, but if you can't get out, try to get a door closed between you and that fire always have you know your phone with you, so you could call 9-1-1 right from your apartment if you need to, but in a fireproof building the fight could be below you.

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You are staying where you're at fireproof building the fire is blown out the windows right next to you, you are staying where you're at you're going to be safe in your apartment, all right many problem times. People do not know their surroundings and they end up doing the wrong thing and things go awry. We had two gentlemen, uh Lower East Side, probably seven years ago, now: okay, fight on the 12th floor, and it was a.

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Was a Fifth Alarm, which is a very big fire wind driven fire fire on the 12th floor they were on the 21st floor. They ventured out of their apartment down the stairwell all right because, of course, we're not gonna use elevators doing a fire, but they should not have gone anywhere. They ventured down the stairwell and didn't get far at all. So stairwell in that scenario is the chimney. They came down the chimney one died in a stairwell and one died two weeks later. Okay, so be familiar with your surroundings.

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Have these alarms the best thing is we have a program through the Red Cross we install alarms absolutely free to all residences, excluding New York City Housing, because they take care of themselves. You could call 877 rate Red Cross 877 Red Cross, which is 877-733-2767.

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We have firemen that come out and also Red Cross workers come out, they'll see what you need. They'll install what you need absolutely no charge. Okay, it's a great program. Take advantage of it. uh We broke the 30 000 Mark as far as alarms installed in the last 16 months, so we've installed, 30, 000, alarms. Okay, just the other day went to a house in Queens the gentleman needed 10 alums you got 10 alarms professionally installed no charge whatsoever; okay, they're great! You have to have them.

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You have to know what to do make sure you have enough people say well, I only live in a studio, I have one one is enough, and my answer to that is you know what, if that one is defective, they're, cheap enough, you know if you had to go out and buy it, maybe forty dollars now, the last 10 years it has a 10 year lithium battery the battery is sealed in there. Okay. So if you do the math, that's four dollars a year and people still do not have them.

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You know people think they don't need them or whatever fires happen in the bad neighborhoods flies happen to people with old houses. People that are uneducated and my answer that is 5 is absolutely do not discriminate.

C

Okay, I believe we're up to 76 five fatalities this year and, unfortunately, we're going to have a more a few more before the year, I hope I'm wrong, but traditionally or historically, this has been a busy time of year with the holidays, with all the cooking and maybe some drinking and the cold weather the space heaters, the defective bars all of that electric blankets, that's common. Unfortunately, it's going to be a busy time of year. Okay, I'll answer any questions. If anybody has any.

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Corazon has a hand up than Joe dweck, then Steve Cohen, if I got that order right.

E

Yeah, thank you. I wanted to find out when you say that the space heater should be three feet away from combustibles. Does that also mean the wall two or.

C

The wall, yes from anything, okay, really just just to be sure three feet away from every every anything and everything so especially more so the couch and the curtains, and all of that you know the walls depending on where you live, so it might be concrete, so it might be uh sheetrock which shouldn't pose a problem. But why take a chance?

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You know three feet away from everything: unplug it before you go to bed, get that thing warm, get that room warm and absolutely shut it off and I also recommend unplugging it before you go to bed.

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Thank you. You.

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Chief Heights Joe dweck um the these days, I understand that there's a lot of fires from the lithium ion batteries that are uh is the ABC um extinguishers effective on those thanks. It will be yes,.

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Yeah but I also want people to know their limits right, you're, not firefighters, you don't have the full equipment, you don't have the training, so five extinguishes, it's a great Tool, uh but just know your limits. You know just know your limits because I'm sorry, I, don't have a video for you to show you what a lithium battery file looks like, but it is explosive. So look online, Google that a lithium battery fire and see what that looks. Like you know, it's not a it's not like a little thing. It's. It could be quite explosive.

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On the topic of uh lithium batteries, um we mentioned um your recommendation that folks don't charge their phones uh rather, something um which.

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That's actually the first time I've I've.

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Heard that um and I was just a little surprised because, um primarily because I know for electric vehicles with Lithium-ion batteries, Con Ed, if anything, encourages electric vehicle owners to charge in the middle of the night so uh to not to attack the uh the grid, um so I I I'm, just trying to understand it like. Are you saying in general not to charge Lithium-ion batteries while sleeping or is it? Is it just for phones.

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Now I'd say for anything: I I have not been to a cell phone foil. That was that bad, but I know others who have very uncommon for a cell phone file, but it's a possibility. So why take a chance? You know if you don't have to right.

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Don't do it we'll charge you while we're sleeping I might be guilty once in a while, but uh the bottom line is it's it's taking a chance right, it's taking the chance. You could have your space heater plugged in while you're sleeping you could have it turned on. Is it going to go on fire who knows, but why take a chance right so avoid, as often as you can avoid it right so.

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Again, we cannot prevent every fire, but if we could, you know try to prevent the fire we're going to do it so don't take a chance, get that charge while you're sleeping while you, while you're awake, because if you are sleeping you're, not gonna smell it you're, not gonna smell that burning. You know, you may not see it sparking. You may not see it turn in Black cell phones, fire, lithium battery and he have a very, very red and I've seen one but I know it happens right. Definitely, the e-bikes is a bigger problem.

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The e-bikes people, the batteries, are expensive, they're going to spend less going to spend as little as possible. You know everything could be defective, but a cell phone you get a cell phone. How many charges do we get with it? We get one charger right. Is that ever enough? It's not enough! So do you want to go to Verizon and spend 30 on a charger if the guy in the Cornerstone one for five dollars, I think we're all guilty of that we're gonna buy the cheap one just be.

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You know cautious know that it could be an issue.

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Great, thank you. Thank you. Captain Roka I also just dropped in the information about the sound, the alarm program for the um detectors, there's both a link and the number that you had mentioned, and that is in the chat um and we'll do that on our website too. So, thank you and thanks for your persistence with the technical.

C

Difficulties, yeah and I'll just say one more thing: we used to hand out smoke, alarms to the public. A lot of people are disappointed that we don't do that anymore, but there was an issue with that, where people that have good intentions take the long put in a draw wait for the sun to put it up when it comes over for the holidays, that doesn't happen, we have people taking them and selling them or we just have people taking them, putting them in the wrong spot.

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You know too close to the kitchen too close to the boiler becomes an issue becomes a nuisance. They rip it down. They don't put it back up so.

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Those alarms, 877, Red Cross, be safe, enjoy the holidays.

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Thank you so much Captain Rocco that was very informative. We really appreciate you coming down and informing us um I'd like to thank you. Let's move on to our next presenter uh Deputy inspector Bruce Cipriano commanding officer for the NYPD 70th preaching, take it away, hi.

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Good evening everybody how's everybody doing. uh Thank you for having me uh uh nice meeting you. uh uh That was a long presentation. I, don't know if they want to be as low, but uh it was very honestly, it was very uh informative.

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uh Just uh since the last time I was on this on his uh call for the last month, we've been down uh 25 been overall in this crime in Seminole Princeton uh for the year we're up 3.9 in overall index crime, but we had a where the rest of the city is trending upward they're, experiencing approximately a 25 increase, we're up only 3.9 percent out of 77 precincts with a 74th uh least crime in the city as we speak, and we're also found in violence.

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uh So all the indicators are going in the direct in uh in uh the right direction. There's several priesthood when it comes to Quality of Life violence and uh crime. There's just one thing this last month that I'd like to speak about uh regarding crime, uh a troubling burglary pattern took place about two weeks ago in the southern part of the precinct uh about five five houses in 7-0, uh six or seven houses and a six one. uh It was a city-wide.

H

It's a it's an active city-wide pattern where a crew of individuals who live, we, we believe in in the canossa section of Brooklyn, in a part of uh about five or six individuals. They enter people's houses, while they're sleeping uh by means of an unlocked window. So just if you get the information out to, please tell everybody to keep their windows locked I hate to say it, but it what I explained this pattern. It'll it'll make sense to you.

H

They literally as we have caught qualities that traditionally go around and pull people's handles on their car. Looking for spare change and and valuables, these individuals are actually professionals that going house to house and checking your window and if it's unlocked, they they lift up the screen.

H

They crawl right in and they're, not in there taking traditional burglar stuff, such as like jewelry uh safes, and things like things like uh that stuff that things that traditional burglars take When Burgers happen like say: you're a work or a school during the daytime, they're literally going for whatever's on the counter, such as your car keys, your wallets any credit cards and they're right out there right in right out and they'll go in your driveway and they'll steal the car out of your driveway. uh It responds to this.

H

There was a live arrest made uh thanks to uh power, Park and Flatbush shower. You know assisting the 66370 precinct, but there's only one individual that is actually in jail right now in regards to so there's a few of them still out. Unfortunately, uh but we have a task force right now that that covers the Brooklyn South area.

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It's well: it's a captain, a lieutenant two stars at 16 police officers working seven days a week strictly on the midnight shift, because that's when these these uh burglaries are happening uh in the middle of the night, three four five, even six in the morning when people are sleeping uh so far, thankfully we haven't taken any hits in in the SEC in the 706 Warner in Brooklyn South in about two weeks, but we're you know. Unfortunately, these individuals still out there. Hopefully you know when this pattern uh started.

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It started in Queens, so hopefully I hate to say they just stand in Brooklyn at this point, but there's a lot of valuable. You know they got a lot of valuables the last time they were here and they hit like two nights in a row. They came here and they were displaced.

H

Unfortunately, at the bar Park, in the six six, where they were two were apprehended and one is still in prison so like like so I just wanted to get out there that, although you know the crime sheet, looks good we're doing well, overall, that, on my conscious and uh and the six month, recent seals contest and the borough community's conference- and we were just recently had cops that last week this pattern came up and it's something that we're you know we're struggling literally.

H

You know when I get up in the morning, I pray that you know we don't have any more of these Brokers, but I'm pretty content with the Manpower. We have out there to address uh this issue, but uh if.

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In regards to this, you know you.

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Thank you, yeah inspector, it's uh to who the accident I'm Sorry by the way that I didn't call you back over the weekend. I was away I'm, actually just getting back now and that's why I called in late I had no internet where I was before so I've been off the grid for a few days.

F

I just want to I just want to thank the inspector that you people on. This call should know it's unbelievable. What the inspector did when this rash of burglar was occurred. It was really unbelievable. He was up 24 hours a day on the phone with Flatbush. The cooperation between the police department and Flappers and Barbara Pakistan was unprecedented.

F

um I can't get into the details, but it we had a high level meeting with them or out every single night working hand in hand with the NYPD. Thankfully, we were able to help them, make uh those two arrests and we're out every single night and we're doing the best we can. Unfortunately, these people, um these victims, just leave their homes unlocked when those unlocked and the burglars are just looking for a crime of opportunity. But I I can tell everyone on this.

F

Call that the NYPD is is giving it everything they have for real from from the chief of Patrol's office for the Community Affairs from Chief Kemper in Brooklyn South to the inspector in the 6-0 from the sixth one and the six six and the Seven are just unbelievable on this, and I just want to really commend the command. You inspect. The fear of amazing uh lead that you took on this for calling that meeting and for working so close closely with the community. So thank you very very much. Thank.

H

You thank you and- and he was at the meeting we had you know with uh we- had borrower, Park strong, we're out, of course, Robert shop room. You know when this thing first happened. We had you know a smaller one in my office. He was there as well and then, when his hit.

H

Unfortunately, when he got this place to the six six, we realized we had a bigger problem on our hand, so we had an actual Borough meeting the inner seminal priesthood where the chief uh came and all the shower members were there and- uh and you know there are great assistance to it to us. So thank you. Thank you.

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Steve Cohen has a hand up.

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Thanks uh Deputy inspector, um the um like I I, know in the uh 70th Precinct social media, uh I've, seen that uh like uh cars that are uh parked without plates or that are uh like trailers that are just sitting there and aren't moving um you, uh the the social media has shown that you've been able to get some of those code and you a lot of times.

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You tag some of the council members like uh councilmember, Jaeger or council member vernikov, um so uh I know there was someone in my local neighborhood listserv that you know had an issue where some where there was a car that was quality, I, don't know I, don't remember if it didn't have plates or or had Pig plates or just been there a long time and was getting ticketed.

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um And you know they were wondering what the best course of action was and I I was like on top of the obvious stuff I'm like I guess contacting council members, because that's what the 73 thing seems to shout out but I'm just wondering there's. uh You know a best course of action uh to deal with. uh You know illegally Park cars and take plates or missing plates. That sort of thing in terms of how to how to make sure that gets on on the precinct's radar.

H

Okay, no problem, honestly what I took over this Precinct and I realized. You know, crime is not. Crime is very, very important, but the supply of light issues are a complete nuisance and I. Understand that these these Towing issues, uh like the trucks, like you just said, the trail of uh since I, got in April. We told we told her about 29 of them, uh but there's also a lot of Towing going on such a few of the vehicles that you're describing if you could just give give.

H

Even if you could shoot me an email and my Community Affairs of the email I have an officer literally, is dedicated strictly to towing cars. That's all he does he's he's he's he's just tows cars, He tows trucks. He tows, you know he's literally that's his only job. You know besides. He also drives me to certain events, but he he takes care of the most problematic uh locations in the precinct. You know we get enough. You know so, like I said email me directly, Community, Affairs and we'll we'll have it addressed so.

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Joanne's hand is up.

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Hi there thank you for being here. Thank you for your update, I appreciate it um so going uh moving to uh trucks, uh illegal illegal used, roadways, I! Just let me see if I can reframe this, so I want to understand a little bit better. What the citation looks like for a 50 view, truck that is moving through our district.

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What that looks like whether that is just a like a financial or a uh a monetary citation towards the um the trucking company versus let's say um actual points that go towards the driver, so you don't have to actually answer what what the result is of that ticket of that truck moving through the district that shouldn't be.

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But what I really want to know is how can we help sort of curb the behavior, because it's clear that if we cite drivers that have a CDL that are moving through our roadways illegally, um if they're getting points in their license rather than uh sort of a monetary ticket, that's going to go to the company. That's going to look at that ticket as the price of doing business through the district um I want to know from you Deputy inspector.

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How can we help perhaps change the system, if necessary, to get uh the people who are actually moving the trucks through the district uh to be cited personally on their CDL versus just this monetary? Fine, that's happening to uh the the trucking company who sees it as the price of doing business. So this is. This is more of a statement than a question for you to think about, and let us know how we can help, um but it is clearly a problem.

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um I understand that enforcement that is based solely on a monetary scale is, is really not lucrative, especially if the Department of Finance is going to go ahead and cut a deal with Amazon, FedEx, UPS, so on and so forth. But what we really want to do is Target those drivers whose livelihood depends on moving through the district um and make sure that their behavior has changed because their credentials are at risk. So I I want us to talk more about that. Okay, yeah yeah.

H

So so the summons that they get is it's called off truck route? Obviously, uh if it's just parked it's you know it's just a parking summons, but if they're pulled over it does go to their license. I gotta see I'm, not sure if it's pointed out, I got to check with the DMV with that, but honestly, the best way my opinion to really hit not just the drivers but also the the companies, is a full-fledged inspection of these trucks by the highway, the highways motor carry unit.

H

They do actual full-fledged truck inspections and they'll pretty much hit these trucks for every single violation. Under the Sun. You know that that the precinct we we you know we might not be equipped with with those type of uh violations. So a joint I can speak to my EXO and the Traffic Unit and try to set up a joint, Motor, Carrier Highway. You know operation to really hit these trucks as hot as possible.

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You know I hate to say it all as hot as possible, but, like you said, if there's no points on the driver's license or or off the the company, that's that's employing the these drivers are not hit some financially or you know it's like you said in fact it'll change their behavior, unfortunately, so the best so to answer your question, I think a joint operation with with highways Motor Carrier unit would at this point would be probably the next step.

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And that would be great, but you know what um you know: I mean look at your protocols and what you think you know what actually happens during the course of those they're very infrequent I've. Only seen and I've been here in 15 years and I live on. Route 27 and I've only seen two operations where traffic or a truck enforcement actually is pulling over and looking at carne as a manifest and so on, and so forth and I've been here 15 years.

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So I I just want you to think about how we can assist you and how we can Advocate to get more stringent um enforcement with regards to citing the driver, because that is going to really move the behavior change. So let's talk about that offline because I know uh I I know that just overall you know operations are complicated and it takes a lot of and and to go through a truck from tail.

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You know from nose to tail and then look at the Manifest and so on and so forth as I've seen them they each take an hour and there's, where are you gonna put a 50-foot foot truck to go through all of that, but um to to expedite the behavior I think we can do a little bit better. So, however, we can support getting that done. uh uh We're here, for you all.

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Right, let's, like I, said that so in that respect, uh Point like heavy.

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License would be the best way you know. I have to look into that to see if there are points or not for the off truck route zones, so so I'll definitely check and I'll get back to you, but if they're, not, if there's anything, you can do to get points, but that that's that fine, it would be. You know very helpful.

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Thank you. We will absolutely do everything in our power to to Advocate to get that done, and thank you so much for listening to me, anytime,.

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um Yeah quick, quick question: the re-routing of uh the of the construction for the BQE would that contribute to traffic. Let's say in Flatbush Avenue as a as a route.

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I I think I, absolutely I think it would answer your question.

B

And thank you for everything. You're doing you, son of a gun, God bless. You really expect that I appreciate it. Thank.

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F

Prison really needs to be moved. Let's get them a new house I.

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Agree: yeah community board has maintained, focus on that for a good 35 years, no no eyes off the ball.

H

Let's create that and that the scaffold's looking forward to prison too, it's I think it's been six seven years, I believe I'm, not sure if that's true or not.

D

Yeah, yeah um and and apparently uh an HVAC system that can be controlled to a just to a comfortable temperature I'm, not seeing any additional hands up.

A

Yes, thank you so much um Deputy. Thank you so much for all that, for all that you do for us for, for the special test for working on with a special task for our support for the showman from Flatbush and Barbara Park and keeping us safe. We really appreciate everything that you do and thank you for coming here today and keeping us informed.

H

Hey Todd. Thank you. I appreciate everybody's support. You know Sean room. Thank you. You know the elected officials Community award 14. if I'm missing anybody uh yahudah. Thank you for your support and uh please everybody have a Happy Thanksgiving. You know yes, say Thanksgiving. Thank.

A

You Happy Thanksgiving, everyone um do I, hear a motion to uh to adjourn.

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Do we? Oh, there are no new business. Other businesses.

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There is not, um we will I know, uh Kara Solomon from OEM had some stuff to share, and so, uh but she didn't make it tonight and I would encourage the co-chairs to invite her back for your next public safety committee meeting. Okay,.

J

Thank you we'll do that thanks everyone. Thank you for joining happy.

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Holiday everybody Thanksgiving.

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Happy holidays.

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Everyone enjoy the upcoming holidays, stay safe, always thank.

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You everyone have a good night, everyone bye was there a motion. There was okay, you're good to go good night, everybody good night, hi Sean. Thank you. Sean.

A

Thank you. Thank you. Everyone thank.

J

You Sean thank you good night, Deputy inspector good night.

J

Thank you thanks, Cindy. Thank you great job. Thank you. So much you did a great job. Thank you. Okay, all righty, bye. Everyone.

A

Yes, sweetheart.