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From YouTube: CB14 Transportation Committee Meeting (06/06/2023)
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For the meeting agenda and to obtain the link to participate please visit: https://www.cb14brooklyn.com/meetings
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A
F
You
know
well,
I've
got
just
the
time
you
should.
You
should
come
to
community
board
14's
reception
on
June
21st,
I'll
I'll.
Send
you
an
actual
the
the
flyer
invite
so
that
you
have
it
in
your
inbox.
Terrific.
Thank
you
very
much.
It'd
be
great
to
see
you
there
and,
if
not,
we'll
figure
something
out.
Okay,
good.
I
D
D
Right
great
good
evening,
everyone
welcome
to
cb14's
Transportation
committee
meeting
on
June
6th,
starting
at
6
31..
My
name
is
Ed
sen
and
I'm.
The
Transportation
committee
co-chair,
and
we
have
two
agenda
items
that
we're
discussing
tonight.
Two
presentations
from
dot
are
first
being
updates
on
City
bike
station
expansion
in
community
District
14.
D
J
J
So
tonight's
presentation
is
pretty
much
going
to
be
very
similar
to
the
one
that
was
given
back
in
March.
I.
Believe
the
only
difference
tonight
is
that
when
we
get
to
the
end
to
actually
take
a
look
at
the
maps,
I'll
walk
through
some
of
the
changes
that
have
been
made
since
that
last
presentation.
D
J
Up
for
questions,
of
course,
but
just
revisiting
you
know
the
overview
of
the
program.
City
bike
you
know
is
intended
for
point-to-point
transportation,
we're
basically
just
providing
another
option
for
people
in
cb14
to
get
around
and
it's
a
great
option
to
also
connect
to
existing
Transit.
That's
in
the
area,
this
allows
for
people
to
you
know,
have
access
to
a
bike
without
having
to
own
one,
and
the
City
bike
in
general
is
a
partnership
between
Dot
and
Lyft.
J
So
us
at
dot
we
handle
all
of
the
planning
and
the
Outreach
and
lift
is
responsible
for
all
of
the
maintenance
and
managing
also
the
Bike
Share
stations
are
not
hardwired
into
the
ground
and
they
operate
simply
off
of
solar
powered,
and
just
you
know,
as
mentioned
it's
a
station-based
bike
share
system.
So
this
is
not
dockless
City
bike.
J
We
just
recently
celebrated
10
years
in
New
York,
so
we
started
back
in
2013
in
Manhattan
in
Brooklyn
with
phase
one
phase:
two,
we
expand
it
further
into
Manhattan,
Brooklyn
and
Queens
and
then
phase
three.
That's
the
phase
that
we're
in
now,
where
we've
gone
through
the
rest
of
Manhattan
further
into
Brooklyn.
Queens
and
as
well
as
the
Bronx
and
doubling
our
the
amount
of
bikes
in
our
service
area
and
so
an
updated
look
at
some
of
our
ridership.
J
J
We
also
have
about
182
000
annual
members
and
about
10.
000
of
those
members
are
reduced,
fare
by
share
members
So
speaking
of
reduced,
fair
and
just
our
membership
in
general,
a
review
of
our
pricing
structure,
so
a
single
ride.
This
is
just
you
know.
If
you're
checking
out
a
bike,
you
don't
necessarily
have
a
membership.
It's
449.
J
This
is
offered
to
night
share
residents
and
snap
recipients
who
can
sign
up
for
membership.
Citibank
membership
for
just
five
dollars
a
month
and
they're
not
locked
into
an
annual
commitment,
and
then
we
also
have
community
credit
union
members
like
the
Brooklyn
Co-op,
who
offer
a
discount
code
to
get
the
the
City
Bike
membership
for
five
dollars
a
month
as
well.
J
Okay
and
then
we'll
review
the
our
planning
process,
which
is
broken
down
in
these
four
steps,
and
so
the
first
one
being
in
our
station's
sighting.
So
back
in
the
beginning
stages
of
the
planning
process,
we
basically
focused
on
creating
a
dense
network
of
stations
across
the
area
we
were
considering
in
this
case
cb14,
and
the
idea
here
is
that
we
want
to
provide
equal
access
to
the
stations
across
the
service
area.
J
So
in
order
to
do
that,
we
plan
in
such
a
way
that
a
user
would
be
no
more
than
a
three
to
five
minute
walk
to
their
nearest
station.
So
let's
say
you
go
to
find
a
bike,
and
it's
not
there.
There's
none
available
at
your
closest
one,
then
you're
super
close
to
the
next
best
option
nearby
at
another
docking
station
or,
if
you're,
looking
to
dock
a
bike
and
there's
no
available
docs
you're
not
too
far
from
the
next
option
over.
J
J
And
then
so,
once
we
collected
that
feedback,
that's
when
we
start
getting
into
the
draft
plan
creation,
so
we're
taking
that
feedback
overlaying
it
on
the
map,
factoring
in
our
citing
principles
and
guidelines,
and
then
Lyft
has
their
own
operational
consideration
based
off
of
like
what
their
equipment
can
handle
and
so
some
of
the
feedback.
You
know
that
we
saw
for
CD
14
was
a
lot
of
people.
A
lot
of
the
cluster
feedback
was
around
subway
stations.
J
A
lot
of
people
really
wanted
access
to
all
the
subway
stations
in
the
area,
obviously
getting
close
to
the
park,
and
then
there
was
a
lot
of
feedback
for
requests.
A
long
Court
tell
you,
so
that's
just
a
sneak
peek
of
some
of
the
things
that
we
saw
with
with
the
people
that
we
received
so
yeah,
and
then
we
presented
our
draft
plan
to
all
I
believe
back
in
March
and
then
posted
a
copy
of
that
draft
plan
online.
J
J
The
letters
that
you
see
on
those
orange
icons
are
just
indicating
which
side
of
the
road
it's
on.
So
this
one
that
I'm
hovering
over
here
is
a
sidewalk
location
on
the
north
side
of
the
street
and
so
just
to
call
out
here
some
of
the
changes
from
the
draft
plan
when
we
originally
presented
where
we
had
these
two
stations
up
here,
along
Parkside
Avenue
that
were
still
pending
coordination
with
the
Prospect
Park
Alliance
and
the
and
parks
department
just
to
coordinate
with
them
to
see
if
this
would
be
viable.
J
I
J
The
routes
or
the
stops
that
might
be
planned
along
along
that
path,
and
so
what
you
see
right
here
in
this
lighter
shade
of
orange.
This
was
originally
what
we
presented,
but
we
have
now
shifted
to
this
site
down
to
Matthew's
court,
so
it's
no
longer
on
Beverly
and
then
same
with
this
one
here.
This
was
originally
on
Beverly
and
we
shipped
it
over
to
rugby.
So
this
is
right
adjacent
to
the
existing
bike
lane.
That's
here,
another
point
of
feedback
that
we
received
was
to
add
capacity
along
Cortel.
J
J
And
then
one
last
change
over
here,
if
you
see
where
my
cursor
is
so,
this
was
originally
planned
as
a
road
bed
station
here
on
the
West
side
of
Bedford
Avenue
and
Beverly
Road
after
completing
our
survey
and
taking
a
look
at
that
another
look
at
the
site.
We
realized
that
we
had
space
to
shift
the
station
onto
the
sidewalk
and
essentially
restore
parking
there.
So
that
is
what
this
change
is
showing
is
that
this
station
went
from
the
road
bed
to
a
sidewalk
site.
D
K
I
I
appreciate
it.
I'm
gonna
wait
for
the
next
part
of
the
presentation.
None
of
these
docking
stations
are
in
my
district
and
I.
Don't
want
to
step
on
the
toes
of
any
of
my
colleagues,
regardless
of
what
I
might
think
about
the
wisdom
of
putting
these
where
they
are.
It's
certainly
a
neighborhood
I
know
very
well.
I
was
a
member
of
this
board
for
18
years
before
I
was
elected
to
the
council,
but
I'll.
Let
my
colleagues
who
represent
that
area
Pine
on
whether
or
not
DOT
knows
what
it's
doing.
D
F
F
A
M
N
I
just
want
to
first
thank
dot
for
putting
so
much
thought
into
taking
our
previous
feedback
into
account.
This
looks
like
a
really
comprehensive
Network
in
the
area
area,
that
of
our
district,
that
is
being
considered
and
I
just
wanted
to
ask
what
the
rollout
was
going
to
be
like
what,
when
should
we
expect
to
see
these
docs
live.
J
C
Hold
on
sorry
a
little
slow
here,
so
yeah
Mike,
I
guess
my
big
question
is:
are
there
plans
to
continue
moving
further
south
I
mean
I?
Think
that
you
know
what's
going
on
here
is
really
great,
but
as
somebody
who
lives
south
of
Cortelyou
Road
and
has
nothing
within
walking
distance
and
almost
having
my
bike
stolen
today
at
work.
I
look
at
some
locations
where
there
are
where
there
are
City
bikes,
but
it
doesn't.
A
A
E
C
P
F
H
Yes,
good
evening,
I'm
just
I
noticed
today:
I
was
driving
on
the
Block
and
it's
a
residential
block,
but
there
was
ducking
there
so
I'm
like
as
a
as
someone
who
drives
like
and
I
and
I
appreciate
bikes,
because
family
members
of
Mine
ride.
However,
are
we
going
to
how
much
parking
space
will
we
be
utilizing
or
displacing.
J
G
Yes,
I'm
I
know,
bicycles,
are
very,
very
good
and
Everyone
likes
to
exercise
but
I'm
talking
as
a
car
driver.
They
go
to
In
and
Out
of
traffic,
they
don't
suffer
red
lights
and
it's
really
dangerous
when
you're
driving
and
you
don't
see
them
coming.
So
something
has
to
be
done
either
with
the
police
department
or
the
department
of
transportation
that
they
have
to
re.
They
have
to
accept
the
traffic
lights
and
when
it's
a
red
light,
they
have
to
stop
and
not
go
right
through
and
most
of
them
do
not
do
it.
G
A
D
B
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
presentation,
I
appreciate
it
and
as
a
person
who
bikes
a
lot
then
doesn't
drive.
I
think
this
plan
improves
the
bikeability
in
this
neighborhood
and
I.
Appreciate
that
and
in
fact
again
I
think
we
should
not
assume
that
sidewalk
area
should
be
taken
for
parking
for
basically
City
bike
and
not
parking
lots,
so
I
think
they're
both
space
for
City
and
we
can
utilize
those
spaces.
B
J
Yeah,
thank
you
for
your
feedback,
I.
Think
from
what
we
collected
previously,
we
tried
to
you
know,
shift
as
many
of
the
stations
that
were
on
Beverly
just
off
of
it
so
on
like
the
street
that
it
intersected
with
and
I
think
the
remainder
is
just.
We
have
one
remaining
on
Beverly,
but
I
do
agree
with
your
point
of
you
know,
increasing
infrastructure
so
that
people
feel
safe
when
they're
riding
along
the
streets
in
this
area.
D
Q
Hi
thanks
so
much
to
dot
for
making
the
presentation
I
live
kind
of
in
the
Northeast
edge
of
this
proposal.
I'm
very
excited
to
see
it
I
think
it's
gonna
be
really
great.
I
have
a
lot
of
friends
that
I
think
will
be
coming
into
that
area
more
and
go
into
the
businesses
there,
which
I
think
is
great
news
for
everyone.
Also
to
the
comments
around
parking.
I
actually
have
some
friends
who
recently
gotten
rid
of
cars
because
of
Bike
Share
coming
into
their
neighborhoods.
Q
P
I
think
it
depends
on
like
your
question.
If
it's
specific
to
Bike
Share,
we
have
a
bike
shirt
and
like
a
email
address
that
we
can
drop
in
the
chat.
If
you
want
to
share
something
specifically
about
like
City
bike
or
bike
share,
any
shared
Mobility
in
the
city.
But
if
it's
specific
to
dot
I
think
going
through
like
the
3-1-1
channel
is
probably
best
or
through
the
bureau
commissioner's
office,
we
can
also
drop
their
phone
number
in
the
link
as
well.
I'm.
R
Hi
I
just
want
to
hello.
Everybody
I
want
to
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak.
I
want
to
thank
the
community
board
14
for
all
the
great
work
they
do
in
the
Department
of
Transportation
I'm,
a
city
bike
member.
My
kids
are
City
bike
members.
We
use
City
bike
I'm,
looking
forward
to
using
City
bike.
More
I
do
have
a
few
questions
about
why
there
are
two
stations:
one
block
apart
in
an
area
of
an
incredibly
low
population
density.
R
P
So
I
just
dropped.
Our
Bike
Share,
like
email
address
like
I,
have
access
to
it.
I
can
anyone
on
our
team
can
access
it?
So
we
can
like
chat
with
you
specifically
about,
what's
going
on
there
to
make
sure
that
you
know
placing
a
station
somewhere
where
an
existing
station
doesn't
exacerbate
a
particular
situation
that
you
have
so
happy
to.
You
know
talk
with
you
about
your
particular
situation.
Okay,.
R
Yeah
we're
we're
at
the
Rugby
Road
in
Beverly,
we're
we're
adjacent
to
the
Beverly
Road
and
rugby
station
and
I
will
tell
you
that
the
last
major
rainstorm
we
had
about
two
years
ago.
We
had
tens
of
thousands
of
dollars
of
damage
to
our
house,
and
that
was
without
those
you
know,
all
of
those
little
humps
that
that
would
impede
the
water
flow.
So
I
I
really
hope
that
you
take
a
look,
because
that
is
an
issue
in
various
parts
of
this.
R
This
general
area
of
New,
York,
City
and
I
really
hope
that
you
take
a
look
at
that
one
again
and
that
you
take
that
into
consideration
as
you
move
forward
with
your
plans
to
expand
and
I
do
hope.
You
expand
I.
Just
hope
you
take
that
that
flooding
issue,
because
those
bikes
will
be
afoot
underwater
for
sure.
P
We
do
leave
a
bit
of
channeling
so
that,
like
water,
can
run
obviously
serious,
rainstorms
or
areas
that
are
like
low-lying
have
other
issues
you
know
going
on,
so
we'll
certainly
take
that
feedback,
especially
for
the
Beverly
and
rugby,
keep
our
eye
out
and
make
sure
to
make
any
adjustment
shifts
that
we
need
to
make
with
that
new
knowledge.
But
again
we
have
that
email
address.
P
I
I
A
I
I
I
turned
my
camera
off
okay
and
then
my
third
question
is
I.
Think
I
think
the
goal
of
the
program
is
to
put
it
in
places
that
are
serve
the
most
people
in
terms
of
people
without
bikes
and
I,
not
sure
our
neighborhood
is
the
correct
one,
just
because,
like
I
think
most
of
us
own
a
bike
because
we
have
garages
not
saying
I,
don't
want
it
here,
I'm
just
saying
that,
in
terms
of
like
point-to-point,
Transportation
I'm,
not
sure
it's
the
best
use
of
our
tax
money.
J
Okay,
thank
you,
Lindsay
I,
guess,
to
start
with
your
first
point,
so
yeah
I
did
mention
that
it's
it's
great
for
point
to
point.
You
know
trips
and
and
connecting
to
existing
Transit.
That
is
one
of
the
benefits.
As
I
mentioned.
You
know,
with
trying
to
create
that
dense
network
is
providing
options,
so
not
only
placing
them
at
a
subway
stations,
not
only
placing
them
at
parks,
but
so
people
can
also
get
to
other
places
as
well.
J
Even
if
that
means
you
know
if
they
want
to
get
back
home
like
we
have
to
have
them
in
residential
areas,
if
they
want
to
get
to
the
store,
we
have
to
have
them
in
commercial
areas.
So
there
has
to
be
some
type
of.
We
try
to
provide
variety
so
that
people
can
not
only
reach
those
destinations,
but
they
can
also
get
back.
J
When,
let's
say
you
don't
want
to
pull
out
your
your
bike
from
your
your
courtyard
and
your
building
or
your
garage,
if
you
happen
to
have
one
and
you
just
need
to
go,
do
something
real,
quick
and
don't
want
to
pull
out
your
bike,
or
it
looks
like
it's
clear
in
the
morning,
but
it's
going
to
rain
in
the
afternoon.
You
have
that
flexibility
of
not
having
to
worry
about.
J
J
Yeah,
so
you
mentioned
Rugby
Road
I
think
you
know
just
first
off
it
was
looking
at
the
spacing
between
how
we
were
selecting
the
stations
within
the
area.
I
think
that
one
also
came
up
as
a
great
opportunity,
just
because
it
already
has
the
infrastructure
there
with
a
a
designated
bike
lane
along
rugby,
and
that
was
called
out
in
some
of
the
feedback
that
we
received
in
the
portal
was
to
place
it
along
rugby
because
it
already
had
a
bike
lane.
J
D
L
Thank
you
very
much
and
thank
you
very
much
for
your
presentation
and
the
information
you've
shared
with
us.
I
represent
a
number
of
residents
on
the
Block
between
Beverly,
Road
and
Westminster,
and
I
was
contacted
by
Lyft.
My
property
is
going
to
be
sort
of
adjacent
to
the
proposed
new
site
on
the
corner
of
Westminster,
Beverly,
Road
and
I.
Have
a
number
of
questions
that
we
would
like
to
ask
and
address?
One
is
how
that
site
in
particular,
was
selected.
L
L
The
site
that
has
been
located
or
chosen
or
proposed
is
actually,
we
think,
is
a
dangerous
location
to
look
to
have
a
break
because
we
haven't-
and
you
know,
babley
road
is
a
fairly
busy
road.
We
have
quite
a
few
trucks
coming
down
there.
These
trucks
often
turn
down
onto
Westminster
to
go
down
to
Cortelyou
we've
requested
they
install
a
ramp
which
they
have
done
a
bump.
L
If
you
like
down
the
road,
however,
the
location
of
the
tide
is
on
a
right
hand,
corner,
so
cars
will
be
turning
right
and
our
concern
is,
as
we
can
see
straight
out,
the
window
I've
noticed
at
least
two
crashes
within
the
last
12
months.
If
someone
is
pulling
a
bike
out,
it's
quite
possible
that
those
cars
turning
right
would
not
see
those
bikes.
L
L
I've
been
told
that
City
bike
and
the
the
Department
of
Transport
they
have
designated
contractors
that
clean
the
stations
every
15
days,
I.
Suppose
the
question
on
that
is
the
residential
streets
at
the
moment
are
clean
twice
twice
a
week
on
a
Monday
and
a
Thursday.
Now
we're
moving
to
a
place
where
it's
only
going
to
be
clip,
cleared
every
15
days
and
there's
a
lot
of
concern.
L
We
do
get
a
lot
of
trash
that
blows
down,
Beverly,
Road
and
blows
down
Westminster
Road
and
that
will
accumulate
in
those
locations
and
not
be
clear
to
the
you
know
in
a
timely
manner
and
then
also
to
Mr
Feldman's
Point
earlier
that
the
proposed
location
is
very
close
to
a
storm
drain.
That
I
personally
have
learned
through
painful
experience
that,
whenever
it's
about
to
rain
I
need
to
make
sure
it's
clear
of
trash
and
plastic
or
leaves
and
debris
that
just
build
up.
L
Otherwise
we
do
get
flooding
and
luckily
for
us
not
onto
our
property,
because
our
property
has
a
sort
of
wall
just
above,
but
all
the
way
along
the
side
and
round
into
the
front
onto
Beverly
Road.
So
there
was
a
lot
a
bike
location
located
there.
There
was
heavy
rain
and
it
will
build
up.
Those
bikes
would
be
under
you
know,
a
foot
of
water
at
least,
and
lastly,
I
suppose.
The
point.
L
The
last
point
I
would
make
like
to
make
is
just
a
question
of
the
diagram
that
I
received
from
I.
Think
it
was
lift
representations.
So
a
young
man
in
New
Jersey
contact
me
to
inform
me
that
this
site
had
been
located
and
he
sent
me
a
a
kind
of
Google
map
image,
shot
of
the
the
location
and
it's.
It
stands
halfway
along
the
block.
I'm,
not
I,
questioned
how
many
bikes
are
actually
going
to
be
installed
in
this
location.
L
And
then
there
was
concerns
raised
and
I
I'm
sure
you've
you've
had
this
before.
Maybe
you
can
address
these
from
your
prior
experience,
where
questions
being
raised
by
residents,
but
there
was
questions
raised
around
increased
noise
and
foot
traffic
in
the
area
that
they
didn't
feel
was
needed
in
this
area,
given
that
it's
low
population
density,
many
people
already
own
bikes,
and
that
is
not
near
any
commercial
area
and
the
proposal
was,
it
should
be
moved
down
towards
cortalia.
I
just
saw
on
your
presentation
that
you
already
have
three
locations.
L
Point
I'm
sorry
to
interrupt
you,
but
just
to
clarify.
So
it's
not
it's
not
a
point
of
the
cars
being
able
to
stand.
The
cars
are
going
to
be
able
to
turn
it's
people.
We
were
taking
bikes.
I've,
understand
correctly,
the
way
you
dock,
a
city
bike.
Is
you
roll
it
out
backwards
and
you're
rolling
it
out
onto
the
street
where
it
into
a
car?
That's
turning
fast
on
turning
on
to
your
right,
so
you'll
be
revert,
you'll
be
walking
backwards,
not
available,
not
aware
there
could
be
a
car.
L
J
P
You
know
we
do
have
some
buffer,
like
stations
are
designed
in
mind
to,
like.
You
know,
make
sure
that
folks
have
like
a
little
bit
of
wiggle
room,
so
the
station
envelopes,
the
way
that
the
equipment
is
designed
is
so
that
you
can
reverse.
You
know,
obviously
folks,
most
likely
if
they're
going
to
be
pulling
out
a
bike,
you
know
going
to
be
looking
behind
them.
You
know
before
they
do
obviously
like
we're
human.
Sometimes
we
don't
think
you
know
what
I
would
say
also
about
City
bike
stations.
P
P
So
this
creates
like
what
we
call
like
a
daylighting
situation.
It
just
makes
the
intersection
and
people
walking
into
the
intersection
more
visible,
so
this
enhances
safety
at
any
intersection
that
we
put
it
in
and
then
just
kind
of
talking
about
a
little
bit
of
the
density
along
Beverly
Road.
So
we
really
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
very
dense
Network
wherever
we're
going.
We
want
people
to
be
a
three
to
five
minute:
walk,
no
matter
where
they
are
in
the
service
area.
P
That
means
like
where
you're
coming
from
and
where
you're
going.
So
we
put
these
in
residential
communities.
We
put
them
in
commercial
corridors
to
make
sure
that
you
can
get.
You
know
you
can
walk
out
your
front
door
in
three
minutes
to
five
minutes
you're
at
a
bike
share
station
and
then
wherever
your
destination
is
you're
no
more
than
a
three
to
five
minute
walk.
It
makes
the
system
really
convenient
and
easy
to
use
it's.
P
You
know
core
principle
and
why
this
program
is
so
successful
in
New,
York,
City
and
so
Beverly
Road.
The
reason
we
have
two
kind
of
along
where
you
actually
have
the
this
subway
station,
Beverly
Road
itself,
where
the
actual
access
to
the
subway
station.
We
couldn't
find
any
viable
options
like
right
off
of
where
that
entrance
was
so.
We
have
one
on
Rugby
and
we
also
have
one
on
17th
that
are
going
to
provide
a
little
bit
of
access
to
it.
P
But
I
also
understand
like
Westminster,
just
a
little
bit
off
of
Beverly
I.
Think
you
can
kind
of
see
how
the
road
the
way
that
the
road
is
it
sort
of
those
blocks
become
wider.
We
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
like
an
even
spread
for
folks
if
they
want
to
go
north
or
south,
whichever
direction
they're
going,
they
can
walk
to
a
station,
that's
closer
there,
so
we
just
want
to
make
it
super
convenient
that
way.
People
actually
use
the
system
there.
P
L
L
Why
are
there
no
sites
on
the
other
side
or
closer
on
the
other
side
of
the
Beverly
Road
subway
station,
the
MTA
Station,
which
is
at
towards
further
up
along
Beverly
Road
I,
I
I,
didn't
see
it
on
the
the
diagram
there
that
Miss
Malloy
showed
at
the
beginning
of
the
presentation.
There
was
no
sites
there
and
also
to
a
point.
L
P
Of
course
we
try
to
like
complement
the
existing
instructure,
but
any
any
road
is
legal
for
any.
You
know
cyclist
to
ride
down,
and
people
live
along.
Westminster
people
are
trying
to
get
to
different
portions
of
you
know
Beverly,
so
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
there's
just
sort
of
an
even
spread.
We
just
cast
like
a
really
tight
net
of
stations
across
the
service
area,
and
that
way
it
ensures
people
have
like
redundancy
reliability.
Let's
say
you
know
in
the
end
of
the
evening.
P
P
So
really
just
trying
to
reinforce
the
network
here
and
also
wanted
to
just
kind
of
highlight
I
know
you
made
a
comment
about
like
the
station
size,
happy
to
kind
of
review
and
talk
through
that
a
little
bit
with
you,
but
the
stations
around
this
you
know
neighborhood
are
going
to
be
smaller,
we're
talking
about
like
19.
You
know,
19
docks
two
and
a
half
parking
spaces
ish.
So
it's
they're
not
going
to
be
huge
stations.
They're
not
going
to
be.
P
You
know
something,
that's
going
to
be
what
you'd
see
in,
like
you
know
the
core
of
Midtown
Manhattan
per
se.
So
these
are
reflective
of
you
know
the
neighborhood.
We
just
want
to
make
sure
folks.
You
know
when
they're,
when
they're
leaving
to
work,
they
have
an
extra
option
and
when
they're
coming
home
they
have
a
place
to
dock.
F
D
U
Thank
you.
I
recently
became
a
city
bike
member,
it's
absolutely
terrific,
I
use
it
in
downtown
Brooklyn
and
so
I'll
definitely
support
expanding
it
south
of
cortelo.
However,
I
don't
see
myself
using
it
over
here
unless
they
are
protected
bike
Lanes,
and
so
my
question
is:
to
what
extent
is
the
dot
considering
you
know,
taking
existing
lanes
turning
into
protected
bike
Lanes,
but
even
newer
any
plans
that
are
going
to
be
protected.
V
Oh
there
we
go
sorry.
Can
you
hear
me
Mom
needed?
Okay,
hey
I,
actually
just
threw
the
bulk
of
my
statement
into
the
chat,
because
I
know
that
you
guys
were
very
short
on
time.
So
I
would
just
add
that
we
were
caught
by
surprise
I'm.
Vice
president
of
the
the
Prospect
Park
South
Board
Association
as
it
came
to
speak,
but
she
ran
out
of
time.
She
would
have
changed
her
plans
if
we
had
understood
this
was
all
happening
earlier
and
we're
really
sorry
we're
not
prepared
more.
V
V
Our
short
urge
is
that
you
give
us
some
time
to
respond
and
don't
move
forward
with
the
Rugby
Road
ones
in
this
lower
density
area.
Until
we've
had
a
chance
to
to
assess
it
in
a
bigger
way,
I
would
I
would
definitely
put
out
there
that
none
of
the
responses
were
down
on
City
bike.
In
fact,
most
people
agree:
I
live
on
just
off
Church
Avenue
on
Buckingham,
so
I'm
a
block
from
Caton,
where
there
are
two
City
bike,
and
it's
not
enough
I
get
it.
V
We
we
use
City
bike
and
even
though
most
of
the
houses
who
do
have
garages
and
do
have
our
own
bikes
I
like
my
own
bike,
but
my
wife
and
my
son,
both
like
their
own
I
like
to
use
City
bike.
If
you
go
at
nine
in
the
morning,
they're
gone
and
if
you
come
back
after
10
at
night,
they're
full
and
as
a
result
of
that
you're
looking
for
a
place
to
put
them.
So
nobody
is
in
in
my
sense
was
saying
we
should
not
be
doing
this
at
all.
V
Our
questions
were
really
about
the
the
placement.
If
you
want
to
be
near
Church
Avenue
train
station,
let's
put
one
there
if
I'm
glad
to
see
that
there's
more
urge.
In
fact
that
looked
like
an
updated
map,
I
hadn't
seen
how
many
were
going
up
along
Cortelyou,
because
I
do
think
that
they're
crying
for
it.
But
people
are
coming
from
farther
from
Dorchester
and
then
and
walking
a
long
way.
Finally,
I
would
just
mention
that
Beverly
Road
station
is
really
one
block
from
Cortelyou.
V
P
S
Ow
hi
thank
you,
Ryder
and,
and
reread
the
things
I
did
put
in
the
chat.
One
is
that
the
configuration
at
Caton
and
Argyle
I
hope
that's
what's
being
considered
everywhere.
It
avoids
some
of
those
issues
of
backing
into
the
traffic,
because
it's
now
spaced
wide
enough
with
the
angle
parking
that
you
can
just
pull
straight
through.
S
S
Given
the
just
the
issue
of
having
to
find
an
alternative
doc,
often
like
when
the
one
dock
is
full
and
you
can't
park
there
or
if
a
dock
is
empty
and
you
can't
find
a
bike,
so
I
think
on
every
block
along
rugby,
as
somebody
who
lives
on
Rugby,
like
that
makes
sense,
I
I
think
it's
actually,
as
we
see
how
this
plays
out
and
what
the
demand
is.
I'm
hopeful
that
the
density
of
net
of
stations
here
will
actually
increase
over
time.
W
Landner,
hey
everyone.
Thank
you.
I'm
excited
that
the
that
the
network
is
moving
south
to
Cortelyou
I
I
welcome
my
daughter
back
from
Caton
Avenue
today,
where
we
have
the
doc.
That's
the
closest
bike,
rack
so
I'm
very
excited.
I
live
down
on
Avenue
H
in
Argyle.
I
would
love
to
see
one
and
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
room
at
Newkirk
Plaza
and
that
might
be
an
awesome
place
to
put
a
bike.
W
Rack
I
know
the
Network's
not
there
yet,
but
I
would
love
to
see
it
expanding
sound
because
maybe
you'd
get
around
some
of
these
Street
issues,
because
it's
just
Plaza
that
probably
does
have
some
space,
so
yeah
I
would
love
to
see
the
network
expand
even
further
south
or,
if
possible,
so
I'm
excited
that's
coming
to
cartelia
Road
I'm
really
happy
to
help.
You
work
out
these
different
concerns,
but
I'm
very
excited
that
it
is
coming
further
south.
Thank
you.
J
Thank
you,
yeah
we're
still
working
through
as
I
mentioned.
You
know
this
is
phase
three
and
we're
still
working
through
to
find
out
if
we'll
be
able
to
plan
through
a
phase
four
and
what
that
would
look
like
in
the
future.
So
it's
good
to
hear
that
people
in
the
community
would
like
to
see
it
continue
to
expand.
W
D
P
E
Thank
you
very
much,
I
just
like
to
start
by
saying:
I,
I
love
the
idea
of
city
bike.
My
wife
and
I
are
bike
riders,
but
our
bikes
are
in
the
garage,
but
I
do
take
exception
to
the
fact
that
you've
said
on
a
couple
of
occasions
that
you,
following
the
specific
Playbook
that
has
worked
for
you
well
in
the
past,
you
were
operating
in
high
and
medium
density,
neighborhoods,
almost
exclusively
you're,
now
moving
into
medium
and
low
density,
neighborhoods
and
it's
time
for
you
to
revise
your
playbook
to
suit
the
new
situations.
E
P
Thanks
Glenn-
and
you
know
more
generally,
what
I'd
say
is
like
we
don't
have
a
one-size-fits-all
sort
of
solution.
You
know
higher
density
neighborhoods
get
bigger
stations,
you
know,
places
that
are
high
trip.
Generators
get
larger
stations.
These
are
going
to
be
our
smallest
stations
that
we'd
be
installing
here.
P
F
M
All
right
great,
thank
you,
so
I
just
wanted
to
so
I
guess.
Let's
move
on
to
the
bike
lane
Network
proposal
and
I
believe
Lauren
from
dot
is
presenting
that
oh
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
let's
go
with
that
and
we'll
take
questions
afterwards
and
I
guess
if
councilman
Yeagers
still
still
here,
he
could
start
us
off
after
the
presentation.
X
Computers
never
get
old
all
right
well
good
evening.
My
name
is
Lauren,
I
am
from
Dot
and
we
will
be
going
over
some
bike.
Network
expansion
for
community
board
14.,
just
some
quick
background
of
kind
of
how
this
presentation
is
set,
we'll
start
out
with
some
background
about
the
safety
and
the
community
outreach.
X
Then
we
can
go
into
some
discussion
about
potential
protected
bike
lanes
and
then
we'll
sum
it
all
up.
So
just
so,
you
know
what's
what's
coming
because
there's
a
few
topics,
so
real
quick
going
through
some
background
community
board
14
is
in
a
priority:
bicycle
District.
This
means
there's
a
high
ratio
of
crashes
and
low
amount
of
bike
infrastructure.
X
X
And,
as
I
said,
we
have
been
here
before,
we
did
come
back
in
2021
with
this
plan
that
is
on
the
screen,
and
we
did
gather
a
lot
of
feedback
from
that
meeting,
as
well
as
some
other
Outreach
since
then,
and
so
we
are
coming
back
to
you
tonight
with
our
updated
plan
and
we
did
try
to
get
as
much
Outreach
as
possible.
As
you
can
see,
we
did
an
online
survey.
X
X
X
So
that
brings
us
to
the
first
part
of
our
planned
proposal
that
we'd
like
to
go
over,
which
is
situated
around
the
parade
ground
and
improvements
accessing
both
to
the
parade
grounds,
but
also
through
it.
So
I'll
go
through
the
improvements
getting
to
the
parade
grounds
first,
so
in
the
existing
field
conditions
today
you
have
the
two
main
paths
through
the
parade
ground
north
south
and
east
west.
While
it
is
signalized
at
Caton
and
Argyle.
X
There
is
no
signal
following
it.
If
you
go
to
the
north
and
try
to
access
Parkside
Avenues
two-way
bike
pass,
there's
also
missing
Crossings
a
long
parade
Place
specifically
at
the
path,
but
also
there
is
a
playground
directly
across
from
crook
Ave
as
well,
so
lots
of
people
crossing
but
no
actual
marked
crosswalks.
X
X
It
would
be
slightly
different
than
than
what
was
at
9th
Street
on
Prospect
Park
West,
but
it
would
still
have
two
crosswalks
and
then
just
the
one
Crossing
for
the
protected
bike
lane
foreign
now
talking
about
getting
through
the
parade
grounds.
There
is
the
obvious
Gap
in
the
network
here
for
cyclists,
a
lot
of
people
trying
to
get
to
Parkside
Avenue
from
the
south.
They
take
Argyle
and
rugby
and
they
cut
through
the
parade
grounds
to
get
there.
X
Okay,
so
that
stuff
was
all
new
now
going
to
the
update
of
the
bike
Network
proposal,
and
so
this
is
the
community
district-wide
proposal
and
just
a
quick
reminder
that
we
have
our
normal
toolbox
of
shared
bicycle
lane
standard
bicycle
lanes
and
protected
by
school
Lanes.
This
proposal
focuses
on
shared
and
standard
bicycle
Lanes.
At
this
time
we
will
discuss
later
some
protected
by
School
Lane
ideas,
but
just
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
clear
the
Network
proposal
tonight
is
standard
and
shared
Lanes,
specifically.
X
X
X
X
X
We
know
they
have
benefits.
We
know
they
are
great
for
safety.
They
calm
traffic,
they
shorten
Crossing
distances,
they
make
it
comfortable,
for
you
know
different
comfortability
of
bike
users,
but
we
also
know
that
these
take
up
space
and
they
come
with
trade-offs
and
they
come
with
a
lot
of
studying
to
be
done.
So
we
wanted
to
come
to
the
community
and
kind
of
start
to
to
talk
about
these
different
options
and
how
we
look
at
it
in
your
neighborhood.
X
So
looking
at
kind
of
potential
things
like
we
said
there
would
be
things
that
are
trade-offs
as
opposed
to
where
the
conventional
Lanes
we
can
install
those
without
any
changes
to
travel
or
parking.
This
requires
more
time
to
study
it
to
see
if
it's
feasible.
If
we
have
to
convert
something
to
a
one-way
Street,
that's
something
that
then
we
need
to
study,
and
so
before
we
take
all
of
our
time
and
resources
into
doing
that.
X
We
wanted
to
touch
base
with
you
guys
and
see
your
thoughts,
so
we
would
like
to
kind
of
just
quickly
go
through.
We
have
identified
Dorchester
and
Ditmas
Avenue
and
18th
Ave
as
possible
things
to
study
from
Flatbush
Ave
to
Coney
Island
and
then
Ocean
Parkway
to
Flatbush
for
streets
like
Dorchester
Road.
X
It's
a
much
easier
lift
because
it's
already
One
Direction
we're
planning
it
in
the
2023
conventional
bike
Lanes
and
to
make
it
a
protected
bike
lane.
We
could
still
keep
all
the
parking.
The
only
difference
would
be
that
when
we
do
a
protected
bike
lane,
we
do
remove
some
parking
at
the
intersections
for
daylighting.
Usually
that's
one
to
two
spots
where
you
can
make
the
corners
more
visible,
as
discussed
in
the
Bike
Share
presentation.
X
So,
while
that's
easy
didn't
miss
having
18th
Ave
is
also
33
feet
wide
just
like
Dorchester,
but
it's
a
two-way
and
so
to
try
to
make
this
a
protected
bike
lane.
We
would
look
at
something
like
converting
it
to
a
one-way
Street
in
order
to
fit
the
space
in
and
we'd
still
have
that
parking
loss
at
corners,
but
that
would
require
converting
one
way
eastbound.
So
all
of
the
westbound
traffic
would
have
to
be
taken
off
of
18th
Ave
and
that
does
include
rerouting
a
bus.
X
So
those
are
our
big
lifts
that
we
would
have
to
study
and
look
into
and
see
if
it's
even
feasible,
but
we
also
could,
alternatively,
look
at
doing
something
like
keeping
the
traffic
capacity
two-way,
but
then
removing
all
the
parking.
So
you
know
it's
it's
either
one
is
going
to
be
a
huge
trade-off
for
these
protected
lanes
and
we
wanted
to
really
bring
that
conversation
to
you
guys
before.
X
So,
just
real
real
quick
to
go
over
all
of
that
for
the
next
steps,
we
will
be
looking
to
install
The
Crossings
on
Parade
place
in
the
signal
at
Parkside,
hoping
for
this
fall,
starting
in
the
signal
hoping
in
the
fall
and
starting
everything
else
in
the
summer.
If
we
can
same
with
the
conventional
bike,
Network
and
expansion,
that
would
start
this
year
and
then
obviously
continue
into
next
year.
M
K
F
I
just
have
questions
about
the
parade
ground.
The
if
bike,
Lanes
I,
assume
Parks,
has
signed
off
on
this
as
a
as
a
proposal,
the
the
well
the
rules
where
the
park
closes,
the
parade
ground
closes
at
10.
Well,
the
ridership
then
have
to
circumnavigate
the
park
or
the
playground.
Once
it
closes
number
one
number
two
who
will
then
be
who
will
maintain
those
Lanes?
O
Hi
everybody,
my
name,
is
Nick
Kerry
I
can
help
answer
some
of
these
questions,
so
we're
still
working
with
parks
and
how
it's
the
design
is
going
to
work
out
within
the
park.
There's
already
a
lot
of
cyclists
using
it.
We
see
it
all
the
time
and
so
do
they
we're
working
out
ways
to
make
sure
that
pedestrians
are
still
safe
or
that
Cycles
don't
go
too
quick.
O
X
E
N
It's
not
just
about
making
network
but
making
sure
that
all
the
streets
that
people
have
to
bike
on,
which
is
every
street
in
the
area,
has
like
the
right
amount
of
interventions
to
make
it
very
safe.
To
that
end,
I'm
really
excited
to
see
these
changes
to
the
parade
ground.
I
think
it
makes
a
lot
clearer
and
easier
for
people
I,
really
wonder
if
Kayla
Santiago,
a
mother
of
two
children
who
lost
her
life
at
25
to
a
truck
hitting
her
on
Parkside
might
not
have
died.
N
If
this
was
a
Clear
Connection
into
that
protected
Lane,
you
know.
I
I
bike
every
day
and
I
know
a
lot
of
people
who
bike
every
day,
including
with
kids
and
I,
want
to
note
that
I
really
appreciate
your
considering
protected
Lanes,
especially
on
that
East-West
Crossing.
There
I
know
I
hear
from
so
many
people
that
that's
such
an
essential
route
that
they
don't
have
an
option
for
and
that
they
do
it
anyway,
because
it's
the
best
way
for
them
to
get
there.
N
There,
maybe
aren't
good
bus
connections
or
good
Subway
connections
to
get
from
their
area
kind
of
on
the
Eastern
side
of
our
district
to
a
school
on
the
western
side,
or
something
like
that.
So
really
hope
that
those
proposals
can
get
studied
and
implemented
so
as
soon
as
possible,
so
that
there
aren't
more
deaths
in
our
area
or
serious
injuries.
N
One
thing
I
want
to
note
about.
You
know
when
I
talk
about
a
lot
of
the
the
streets.
You
know
some
of
them
are
more
dangerous
than
others.
There's
two
kind
of
really
glaring
streets
that
aren't
included
in
anything
on
this
and
I
know.
One
of
them
is
challenging
because
it's
on
the
border
of
city,
council
and
community
board
districts,
but
Coney
Island
Avenue,
is
repeatedly
brought
up
as
something
where
people
you
know
can't
cross
safely
needs
a
lot
more
daylighting
and
there
are
delivery
Cycles
going
up
and
down
that
road.
N
All
the
time
time.
There's
a
lot
of
businesses
there,
so
I
even
see
I
see
a
lot
of
nor
you
know
non-deliveries
like
non-professional.
Cyclists
is
what
I
want
to
say,
biking
parts
of
that
and
it's
harrowing
to
watch
that
and
Ocean
Avenue
also
is
just
difficult
because
there's
buses
and
there's
a
painted
bike
lane.
That's
almost
always
blocked
many
many
cars
in
a
row,
so
you
know
maybe
seeing
a
complete
street
that
helps
with
that
there
would
help
make
it
safer
for
everyone.
I
just
want
to
note.
N
I
also
hear
a
lot
from
people
who
never
ever
bike
and
just
want
a
lot
of
that
daylighting
and
protect
it.
That
would
come
with
protected
bike
Lanes
so
that
cars
can
see
them
on
Dorchester.
No
one
follows
the
stop
signs
right
now.
There's
a
few
stop
signs
in
my
opinion
that
are
missing.
That
people
really
just
go
50
miles
an
hour,
sometimes
down
the
road.
It
seems
you
know,
I've
been
out
there
with
a
speed
gun
and
that's
you
know
they
can't
see
people
who
are
crossing
the
street.
N
O
And
I'll
just
say
briefly
that
as
hard
as
ditmus
and
Dorchester
look
in
those
slides,
Lauren
presented
with
such
big
trade-offs,
we
looked
at
all
the
streets
in
the
in
the
whole
Community
district
and
the
other
ones
seem
even
tougher
to
us
in
terms
of
the
trade-offs,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
they
can't
be
done.
You
know
we
just
want
to
have
a
honest
conversation
about
what
those
trade-offs
are,
but
thank
you
for
your
support.
B
B
I
live
on
Dorchester
and
I
can
tell
you
that
there's
a
lot
of
space
for
a
protected
bike
lane
and
we
see
so
many
parents
every
morning
biking
their
kids
on
this
street
and
I
I
would
say:
I'll
just
have
a
bite
having
your
bike.
Lane
is
probably
not
enough.
We
really
need
a
protected
bike
lane,
even
if
we
can
protect
it
by
parking.
That
would
be
great
and
I
understand.
There's
so
many.
So
many
of
us
here
come
from
different
perspectives.
Community
board
members,
General
Public.
B
They
come
from
different
approaches
of
about
bike
lanes
and
parking
space.
I
don't
want
to
have
a
an
a
conversation
about
what
is
right
or
wrong.
Objectively,
yes,
I
I,
take
it
as
a
subjective
matter,
although
I
think
there's
an
objective
point
to
make,
but
if,
but
if
it
is
subjective,
I
would
like
to
say
parking
space
is
is
not
something
that
everyone
can
use.
Sparking
space
is
something
that
one
person
uses.
B
So
many
person
cannot
and
bike
lane
is
something
that
so
many
people
need
and
the
safety
and
their
life
is
depending
on
that,
so
I
would
be
okay
to
see
more
parking.
Spaces
are
gone
for
the
sake
of
safety
of
biking,
and
that's
my
perspective.
I
understand
that
so
many
people
don't
share
it,
but
as
a
as
a
board,
member
I
totally
support
having
more
bike
lanes
and
if
you
even
have
less
parking
space.
Thank
you.
Y
Go
for
it!
Thank
you.
Very
much.
I
also
want
to
thank
the
dot
for
the
presentation.
First
I
just
want
to
say,
I'm
really
happy
and
I'm
really
excited
about
the
upgrade
to
the
parade
grounds.
I
I
go
through
there
every
day
and
I
take
both
of
the
bike
Lanes
in
in
the
district,
pretty
much
every
single
day
to
get
back
and
forth
from
work,
and
the
improvements
that
you
guys
are
proposing
are
gonna
are
very
meaningful
to
me
and
many
other
people
who
ride
those
bike.
Y
Y
The
one
question
I
had
is
I
didn't
see
in
The
Proposal,
any
extension,
even
just
paint
like
a
standard
bike
lane
down
Ocean
Avenue,
maybe
I
missed
the
point,
but
I
didn't
I
know
a
good
portion
of
it
in
the
district
does
have
a
protected
by
plane.
I
write
it
often
sorry,
a
standard
bike
lane
and
I
just
noticed
that
in
this
one
it
didn't
keep
going
out,
but
it
seemed
like
that
would
make
sense
to
me.
Y
O
Thanks
yeah,
we
would
be
open
to
extending
ocean
the
challenge
with
the
ocean.
Is
that
it's?
If
I
remember
this
correctly,
it's
50
feet
wide
south
of
Prospect
Park
and
with
one
lane
in
each
direction,
there's
just
enough
room
for
a
conventional
bike
lane
in
each
Direction.
But
when
you
go
south
of
I
want
to
say
Farragut
it
widens
out
to
70
feet.
It's
got
two
lanes
per
Direction,
plus
the
center
turn
lane
and
a
lot
of
traffic
volume
on
it.
There
is
you
know
a
way
we,
you
know
where
we
could.
O
We
could
take
some
of
the
space
used
in
the
center
flush
median
and
have
a
conventional
bike
lane
for
the
bulk
of
the
block
and
then
how
to
kind
of
go
down
to
sharrows
at
the
end
of
the
block,
where
we
need
space
for
the
turn
lane,
but
it
wasn't,
we
weren't
planning
to
do
it
as
part
of
this.
But
you
know
if
you
guys,
if
you're,
interested
and
and
requested
we're
happy
to
consider
in
the
near
future,.
M
K
K
Trying
to
force
a
bike
lane
onto
Avenue
Zam
Avenue
J
is
dangerous.
There
is
no
other
way
of
looking
at
it.
You
can
say!
Well,
you
know
if
everybody
just
drives
that
one
mile
an
hour
everybody's
going
to
be
safe,
but
you
have
to
match
reality
with
what
it
is
that
is
planned.
Avenue,
M,
Avenue
J
are
incredibly
congested.
There
is
no
block
that
doesn't
have
a
double
Parker
on
it.
K
A
double
parked
truck
at
any
given
moment
and
the
city
hasn't
made
any
effort
to
remove
that
at
the
the
dot
puts
its
hands
in
the
air
and
says
well,
go
call
the
cops.
That's
not
our
problem
and
that's
not
insurance
I
see
you're
you're
nodding
your
head
because
we've
had
this
conversation
a
thousand
times.
That's
not
the
solution.
The
solution
isn't,
let's
put
it
there
and
then
let
it
be
figured
out
later
how
the
enforcement
takes
place.
K
The
solution
is,
let
the
enforcement
be
there
and
once
it's
safe,
put
the
bike
lane
there
without
that
is
simply
not
safe.
12Th
13th,
17th
18th
the
only
wide
Street
and
that
list
is
East
17th
Street
every
other
Street,
18th,
12th
and
13th
are
very
narrow.
Some
of
them
have
schools
on
them.
12Th
13th,
certainly
does
those
schools
have
double
parked
school
buses
there
in
the
morning,
usually
starting
from
7
A.M
for
several
hours
in
the
afternoon,
usually
starting
from
2
A.M
to
2
p.m.
K
We
recognize
drivers
sometimes
do
don't
always
do
the
right
thing,
but
our
job
as
Government
I
would
assume
that
the
job
of
the
dot
is
to
protect
people
from
getting
hit
by
a
car,
even
if
they're
on
a
bike,
and
that
doesn't
seem
to
be
what
this
plan
does.
What
this
plan
seems
to
do
is
say
we're
going
to
draw
the
paint
and
we're
going
to
just
close
our
eyes
and
hope
for
the
best.
It's
just
not
realistic.
It's
not
it's
not
wise.
It's
incredibly
dangerous!
K
We've
seen
this
happen
before
we
had
these
conversations
in
a
different
community
board
about
13th
Avenue
the
same
conversation.
If
a
street
can't
handle
a
bike
lane,
you
don't
try
to
shoehorn
it
in
it's
not
fair
to
bikers
it's
not
fair
to
pedestrians,
it's
not
fair
to
the
city
and
it's
silly
just
to
try
to
meet
a
metrics
of
let's
check
a
couple
of
boxes
and
get
a
couple
of
more
miles
of
bike.
K
Bedford
Avenue
was
a
perfect
example
of
a
calm
street
that
can
handle
the
bike
Lanes
safely
and
it
it
I
recognized
that
Bedford
being
East
25th
Street
until
East,
you
know
12,
13,
17th
and
18th
is
not
very
close,
but
when
you're
on
a
bike,
it's
also
not
very
far.
So
that's
all
for
now,
but
I
did
want
to
hear
from
the
neighbors
before
I
said
this
I'm
not
saying
anything
different
than
dot
has
heard
me
say
for
a
very
long
time
about
this
and
I
I
recognize.
K
There
are
people
here
who
may
not
know
who
I
am
because
you're,
not
in
my
district.
My
district
extends
to,
for
the
most
part,
the
south
of
Avenue
I,
but
I
served
on
this
community
board
for
18
years
before
I
ran
for
the
city
council.
I
know
every
part
of
community
board
14,
like
the
back
of
my
hand
and
I,
see
chairman
burkus
here,
and
he
knows
that
I
know
this
neighborhood
and
Sean
Campbell
is
the
third
district
manager
that
I've
worked
with
and
she's
fabulous
this.
K
This
is
a
community
District
that
I
love
I
care
very
much
about
even
the
parts
that
aren't
in
my
district
and
I
don't
want
to
do
dangerous
things
anywhere.
Even
the
parts
that
aren't
in
my
Council
District
so
leave
it
at
that
for
now.
I
hope
that
we're
gonna
have
more
conversations
about
this,
and
that's
it
I
appreciate
you
cheers
for
giving
me
the
extra
time
and
thank
you
very
much
for
holding
this
meeting
and
going
into
the
dark
of
night
with
it.
O
Question
thank
you
for
that.
Council
member
I'll
just
briefly
say
that
we've
installed
similar
bike
Lanes
on
streets
on
narrow
streets
like
12th
of
13th
and
17th,
and
18th
We've
installed
bike
Lanes
on
streets
with
schools
on
them
on
Commercial
streets,
and
what
we've
seen
on
average
over
time
is
that
even
conventional
bike,
Lanes
bike
Lanes,
not
physically
separated
from
traffic
by
a
vertical
element,
even
conventional
bike.
Lanes
do
improve
safety
for
cyclists
and
pedestrians
because
they
have
a
traffic
calming
effect.
K
I
I
appreciate
that,
but
but
I
would
just
saying
I'm
not
going
to
do
it
back
and
forth,
because
it's
not
my
meeting
I
appreciate
that
very
much
I
know.
You're
the
experts
on
bike,
Lanes
I'm,
the
expert
on
my
neighborhood
and
there's
there's
a
big
difference.
You
you
know
that
you
know
bike
lanes
and
that's
great,
but
every
neighborhood
is
different.
Then
blocks
are
different.
We
are
an
incredibly
congested
neighborhood
south
of
Avenue
J,
going
from
J
to
P.
It
is
incredibly
busy.
K
There
is
a
network
of
schools
that
each
run
their
own
separate,
School
transportation.
They
don't
rely
on
the
city
for
transportation.
That
means
that
there
are
school
buses
all
over
the
place
in
the
morning.
That
has
our
sanitation,
trucks
and
school
buses
competing
for
Road
space.
It
is
incredibly
dangerous,
incredibly
congested
and
in
fact
it's
become
so
much
that
in
one
part
of
the
neighborhood,
not
in
this
community
District,
we
had
to
shift
sanitation
pickup
to
a
weekend
simply
to
accommodate
the
number
of
of
vehicles
on
the
road
during
the
weekday.
K
But
the
experience
that
you
have
on
putting
down
bike
Lanes
is
not
the
experience
that
Sean
and
I
and
others
have
with
the
teens
in
the
in
in
the
range
of
Avenue
I
till
Avenue
P.
It's
just
not
the
experience
we've
seen
and
we
deal
with
this
all
the
time.
I
speak
to
the
district
manager
several
times
a
week
about
stuff,
so
we'll
leave
it
at
that
for
now,
but
I
I
am
happy
to
continue
talking.
I
would
ask
you
that
you'd
not
come
down
with
a
bucket
of
paint
before
we
continue.
This
conversation.
M
M
Q
Lauren
Nick
thank
you
for
the
presentation,
very
supportive
of
adding
to
the
bike
Network
in
this
neighborhood.
So
thank
you
for
the
work
doing
here.
It
sounds
like
this
is
not
an
either
or
where
we
have
to
choose
between
protected
by
claims
in
the
future
and
some
conventional
Lanes.
Now
I
am
very
supportive
of
additional
protected,
Lanes
I.
Think
taking
a
look
at
Ocean,
because
the
current
Lane
is
not
respected.
I
know
that
enforcement
doesn't
lie
with
DOT,
but
I
think
that's
really
important.
Q
That's
a
super
dangerous
route
to
ride
so
is
Kaden,
so
supportive
of
the
work
you're
doing
supportive
of
adding
more
bike
protection
and
to
the
the
points
around
adding
conventional
Lanes
being
irresponsible,
I
think
if
people
are
already
biking
on
a
street
I
bike
on
streets
that
don't
have
bike
Lanes
right
now,
because
I
don't
have
a
choice.
I
would
much
rather
have
a
conventional
bike.
Lane
I
would
certainly
prefer
a
protected
line,
so
anything
we
can
do
to
get.
Those
in
would
be
great.
Thank
you.
T
S
Do
that
I
understand
that
there
are
situations
like
Ditmas,
where
there
are
those
trade-offs,
but
on
Rugby
on
Argyle,
on
Dorchester
on
any
of
these
other
streets,
where
you
can
simply
reconfigure
where
the
parked
cars
go
to
give
us
some
protection
in
our
neighborhood,
so
people
can
ride
without
fearing
for
their
lives.
Please
please
do
that.
As
as
was
mentioned
earlier,
Kayla
Santiago
was
killed.
We
have
pedestrians,
who've
been
killed
in
our
neighborhood.
Why?
S
O
I'll
just
say
briefly
that
that
was
the
goal
you
know
looking
through
when
we
looked
through
the
streets.
Is
there
anywhere?
We
can
do
this
where
we
minimize
the
impact
and
aside
from
Dorchester,
none
of
them
are
wide
enough.
So
there's
streets
like
like
Argyle
and
rugby,
where
we
installed
bike
Lanes
back
in
2015,
I,
think,
and
they
just
don't,
have
the
width.
The
only
way
we
could
upgrade
it
to
a
protected
bike
lane
is
to
remove
parking
from
one
side
of
the
street,
which
again
is
something
we're
capable
of
doing.
AA
All
right,
I
want
to
say
thank
you
for
the
proposal
overall.
I
specifically
want
to
say
thank
you
for
all
the
work
proposed
on
the
parade
grounds.
I
think
this
is
I
think
the
connection
is
badly
needed.
I
mentioned
this
in
the
chat
in
the
earlier
part
of
the
presentation
one
more
I
have
is
I
have
seen
cars
run
red
lights,
there
I
think
they
run
red
lights
there,
because
they're
like
well,
there's
no
cross
vehicle
traffic
and
I.
Guess
the
other
people
trying
to
cross
the
street.
AA
AA
Overall
I
think
most
cars
are
generally
going
to
respect
it.
It
will
be
a
huge
Improvement,
it'll
be
safer
for
people.
I
do
want
to
know
what
we
can
do
or
what
you
can
do.
I
guess
to
bring
up
the
timeline
on
the
projected
Lanes
I.
Think
this
proposal
is
an
improvement,
although
it's
very
similar
to
the
one
you
came
to
this
committee
with
into
fall
of
2021,
there's
I
think
very
much
fewer
shared
Lanes
and
now
there's
sort
of
a
plan.
AA
You
know
that's
I'm,
thinking
about
protected,
Lanes
I
think
we
really
need
the
protected
Lanes
to
make
this
useful
I
think
we
need
the
protective
Connections
in
both
directions.
I
want
to
Echo
what
I
think
moose
and
some
others
said
about
Ocean
Avenue,
which
is
sort
of
regularly
blocked
with
delivery
civil
parking
center,
and
especially
because
there's
that
one
block
segment
on
ocean
that's
connecting
up
into
I
think
as
Farragut.
That
will
be
really
helpful.
If
that
could
be
addressed.
So
that's
that's.
Essentially.
My
comment
is
I.
AA
O
We're
not
any
closer
to
the
protected
lands.
Those
are
something
we
scoped
really
recently
I
I
would
say
the
earliest.
We
could
come
back
with
like
a
hardened
proposal
on
that,
maybe
maybe
a
year
from
now,
because
really,
if
we're,
if
we
were
to
convert
ditmus
and
18th
Avenue
to
one
way,
we
would
be
pushing
traffic
onto
Dorchester
and
onto
Foster.
We
need
to
study
that
and
study
what
the
impacts
are
and
how
we
could
potentially
mitigate
them.
O
And
then
you
know,
coordinating
with
the
MTA
about
rerouting
the
bus
between
on
on
18th
Avenue
between
west
of
Coney
Island
Avenue
would
also
be
like
a
challenging
conversation.
You
know
we
would
have
to
move
bus
stops
it
would
it
would.
It
would
be
a
big
a
big
to
do
so.
I
would
say
maybe
next
year,
but
I
don't
want
to
I,
don't
want
to
make
any
promises,
but.
AA
H
I
understand
the
plight
of
the
cyclists
I
have
family
members.
I
have
friends
who
are
cyclists,
I
also
have
family
members
who've
been
my
son's
girlfriend
was
knocked
down
by
a
cyclist,
and
so
there
are
two
sides
to
everything.
However,
in
listening
to
the
conversations
here,
I
don't
hear
drivers
parking
being
considered
and
I
think
it's
rather
selfish
to
say:
let's
just
take
away
parking
just
to
secure
cyclists.
H
I
think
that
cyclists
also
have
to
be
careful
and,
as
you
know,
as
a
driver,
I'm
also
always
looking
out
for
pedestrians
and
cyclists
and
those
in
scooters
as
well,
and
so
I
would
like
to
have
some
kind
of
consideration
as
one
who
lives
in
one
of
the
streets
that
was
mentioned
to
be
considered
for
those
of
us
who
drive.
You
know
we
can't
go
shopping
or
bring
our
family
members
to
anywhere
on
our
on
our
bicycle.
So
we
do.
H
Some
of
us
do
need
vehicles,
I
I,
do
take
care
of
some
elderly
folks
that
don't
ride
bicycles
and
so
I
I'm.
Not
appreciating
hearing
that,
oh
we'll
just
take
away
parking
to
ensure
that
Riders
are
secured
and
and
I
do,
I
no
lives
being
lost
is
ever
a
good
thing.
None
but,
as
I
said
and
I've
also
almost
been
knocked
over
by
cyclists,
while
I
was
walking
and
walking
on
the
sidewalk
nonetheless,
but
I
just
want
to
say
that
all
of
us
have
to
consider
each
and
everyone.
X
Thank
you
Francia
and
we
we
are
taking
into
account.
The
proposal
from
tonight
does
not
remove
parking,
but,
as
we
said,
we
are
looking
at
all
of
the
options
for
the
protected
bike
lanes
and
trying
to
see
what
works
best.
So
none
none
of
the
parking
has
been
removed
yet
and
that's
why
we
wanted
to
bring
it
up
with
the
Community
First
to
just
kind
of
discuss
the
the
options
on
the
trade-off.
M
M
W
Hey
12
13
17
to
18th
I
disagree
with
councilman
Jager
I
think
I
buy
some
of
those
streets
going
south
I,
don't
when
I
bike
I,
don't
necessarily
like
to
go
over
to
Bedford
and
then
come
back.
If
I'm
going
down
a
bright,
Beach,
Argyle
Road
going
north
has
a
school
on
it.
Yeah
there's
traffic
at
drop-off
time.
It
is
a
little
stressful
but
I
don't
see
that
as
a
reason
for
not.
L
W
W
Is
there
a
way
to
look
at
Avenue,
K
and
mul
or
I
mean
I'm
kind
of
coming
this
late,
but
J
M's
just
seem
like
tough
for
me,
they're,
tough
streets
for
biking
and
I
and
I
think
maybe
k
l
might
be
better
East-West
routes
than
j
m.
I
just
for
thought
and
I,
don't
know
if
you
have,
if
there's
some
reasons
why
you
don't
put
it
on
k,
l
but
J
M
seem
like
tough
ones.
O
Thank
you,
I
think
you
know
for
the
for
the
red
light
running
and
the
speeding
you
know,
I,
don't
have
all
the
answers
here
about
that,
but
I
know
that
we
can
potentially
utilize
speed
cameras
or
red
light
cameras,
but
I
can't
really
speak
to
the
details
and
how
that
works.
I
know
that's
something
dot
does
and
again.
Thank
you
for
your
comments
about
J
M,
we'll
look
at
we'll
look
more
at
k.
L.
X
Yeah,
we
can
certainly
look
at
k,
l
but
I
also
will
say
for
Parkside.
We
are
going
to
be
building
out
a
pedestrian
Island
there
to
narrow
the
roadway
and
to
really
make
sure
that
that
is
clear.
Visibility
wise
because
yes,
I
I've,
walked
down
ocean
and
seen
people
blow
through
those
red
lights
as
well.
So
we
are
looking
to
do
some
traffic
calming
in
order
to
account
for
that.
W
M
AB
Hi
everyone
first
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
being
here
and
having
the
conversation.
I
just
want
to
First
say
like
I
I
think
that
the
design
is
amazing.
We
need
to
buy
network,
but
I
also,
don't
think
that
unprotected
bike
Lanes
really
match
the
road
conditions
in
this
neighborhood.
For
anybody
who
has
ever
biked
here
I
do
want
to
just
focus
on
one
thing
that
I
think
is
missing.
AB
That's
a
really
really
dangerous
part
to
bike
and
there's
no
good
connection
to
go
I,
don't
know,
maybe
there's
an
opportunity
for
something
on
Woodruff
I
know
Parkside
is
crazy,
but
that
is
just
something
I
want
to
point
out.
You
know
there's
no
alternative,
but
to
bike
on
the
sidewalk
there.
If
anybody
has
ever
been
on
Parkside
and
Ocean
Avenue
during
rush
hour,
it's
insane
and
there's
also
a
new
city
bike
dock
on
Parkside
and
Flatbush.
That
is
also
very,
very
dangerous.
AB
X
M
All
right
well
with
that
I
think
I
want
to
thank
you,
Lauren
and
Nick
for
being
on
making
that
presentation
and
answering
all
of
our
questions.
We
really
appreciate
it
and
hearing
hearing
the
community's
comments.
Sorry
for
the
noise,
in
the
background,
the
and
and
I
wanted
to
extend
thanks
to
your
colleagues
that
presented
the
first
and
the
first
half.
We
really
appreciate
it.
M
So
thanks
for
thanks
for
all
that,
the
last
item
on
our
agenda
was
other
business
and
the
one
thing
I
can
think
of
that
wanted
to
address
was
there
was
a
meeting
that
I
believe
was
sponsored
by
that
Clark
that
I
believe
Committee
Member
was
Denny's,
attended,
so
Liz.
If
you
wanted
to
just
tell
us
anything
relevant
Transportation
related
that
may
have
come
up
just
so
we're
we're
in
the
loop
that
would
be
appreciated.
N
N
M
M
Yeah,
if
you
could
direct
your
question
after
the
meeting
to
the
board
office-
and
you
know
if
it's
if
it's
something
we
can
have
a
discussion
at
a
future
meeting
about,
we
will
but
I
just
want
to,
especially
because
you
know
it's-
we've
been
going
almost
two
hours,
so
I
just
want
to
stick
to
the
agenda
here
all
right.
Thanks
for
that
update,
Liz
and
yeah
we'll
make
sure
to
get
the
info
regarding
the
electric
vehicles
up
on
the
site.
M
Okay,
great
thanks
for
thanks
everyone.
I
know
it
was
a
long
meeting.
Hopefully
everyone
got
a
chance
to
ask
their
questions
and
comments
for
DOT
regarding
the
these,
the
bike
lanes
and
City
bike
and
I
think
both
both
Ed
and
I
had
our
own
child
care
she's
tonight.
So
thanks
for
thanks
for
dealing
with
us,
as
we
tried
to
you,
know,
navigate
multiple
issues
getting
us
through
this
meeting.