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From YouTube: CB14 Transportation Committee Meeting (09/27/2023)
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A
Foreign
people,
we
will
be
joining
as
as
we
go,
but
co-chairs
I
pick
it
off
when
you're
ready.
B
Okay,
for
those
who
don't
know,
Musa
and
I
are
the
co-chairs
I'm
Joel
Siegel
of
the
transportation
committee
this
year.
We
are
going
to
be
doing
that
and
we
will
both
be
speaking
tonight
and
moderating,
trying
to
keep
the
questions,
succinct
and
and
not
redundant,
and
we
have
a
couple
of
important
presentations
tonight,
the
first
of
which
is
by
angle
Andy
anglesby
from
the
Department
of
Transportation
regarding
the
troubles
Coney
Island
Avenue
and
portalia
Road.
A
No
Joel
the
other
way
around
Andy
inglesby
is
New:
York,
City,
Transit,
MTA,
okay,.
B
And
okay,
and
so
with
having
made
that
flub
nevertheless,
I'm
going
to
turn
the
floor
over
to
you
Andy,
do
you
have
to
need
access
to
the
to
post
things
we're.
C
Feel
like
Ryan's,
going
to
be
sharing
the
screen
when
we
get
the
presentation,
but
thanks
Joel
really
appreciate
it
and
I
just
want
to
say
thanks
to
the
entire
committee
to
Sean
for
inviting
us
to
presents
tonight,
and
we
really
really
appreciate
that
it's
always
great
to
be
at
Community
114..
C
C
We
are
here
tonight
to
present
the
Construction
presentation
for
the
Church
Avenue
BQ
station
Ada
project
and
we're
thrilled
that
we're
able
to
present
this
and
ultimately
to
be
a
brand
new
Ada
station.
We're
very
excited
about
that
I'm,
going
to
turn
it
over.
As
I
said
to
my
colleague
Brian
in
a
minute,
but
I'm
joined
by
a
couple
of
my
colors
I.
Think
Ryan
Lesco
Flair
is
here
Ryan.
If
you
just
want
to
say
hello
and
introduce
yourself
that'd,
be
great.
C
Thanks
Ryan
and
yeah
I'm
on
my
phone
tonight
so
is.
C
Else
from
the
MTA
or
our
contractor
on
the
call
that
can
introduce
themselves
besides
Brian.
E
Yeah
sorry
Hi
I
didn't
know
sorry,
Andy,
Joe,
O'donnell,
MCA,
C
and
D.
C
Thanks
Joe,
okay,
so
we
know
that
you
guys
have
a
packed
agenda,
so
we're
gonna
we'll
get
right
into
it.
Brian
Leona,
my
colleague
from
MTA
construction
development,
will
share
his
screen.
If
it's
okay
and
then
we'll
walk
you
through
it.
C
We
have
a
pretty
short
presentation
and
then
obviously
we'll
be
more
than
happy
to
take
any
questions
that
the
community
might
have
and
I'm
going
to
be
forwarding
over
to
Sean
after
the
presentation,
this
presentation,
and
also
a
one-page
summary
so
Sean
once
we're
finished,
I'll
be
sending
it
your
way
that
you
can
obviously
feel
feel
free
to
share
with
the
with
the
community
board.
Thank.
G
Thank
you,
Andy.
Thank
you
to
the
to
the
board
for
having
us
I'm
going
to
put
my
screen
up
in
a
second,
but
just
by
way
of
introduction,
my
name
is
Brian
lyona
I'm,
the
project
manager
for
this
project.
It's
called
Ada
package,
313
stations
and
I'm
joined
by
you.
You,
you
heard
the
introduction
from
some
of
my
colleagues
just
a
few
minutes
ago.
The
MTA
is
supported.
We
have
what's
called
a
PMC
team.
G
That's
the
project,
management
consultant
and
Ryan
is
one
of
those
members
they're
going
to
help
us
manage
the
project,
and
you
also
heard
from
one
of
our
contractors.
The
contractor
is
a
design,
build
project
and
so
again
you've
met
some
of
our
contractors
as
well,
they're
doing
the
actual
design
and
construction
of
the
project.
G
G
G
So
here,
as
as
I've
mentioned
again,
this
is
part
of
13
stations
in
the
overall
package.
There's
your
location
at
Church,
Avenue,
I'm,
sure
everyone
here
is
familiar
with
it.
The
overall
goals
of
our
project
is
again:
the
MTA
has
been
pursuing
vigorously,
trying
to
add
accessibility
to
as
many
stations
as
possible.
This
project
is
a
little
bit
unique.
G
It
happens
to
be
what's
called
a
public-private
partnership
and
it's
actually
the
first
one
the
MTA
has
done,
and
while
it
doesn't
change
actually
how
we're
building
the
elevators
it
does
change
how
the
MTA
is
financing
them
and
maintaining
them.
So
in
this
particular
case,
the
contractor
is
part
of
an
overall
team
that
we
call
the
developer
and
that's
eae
and
they're,
providing
the
design,
construction
and
maintenance
of
these
stations
and
because
it's
a
design
build
we're
we're
about.
G
Maybe
40
done
with
the
design
of
the
station,
we're
continuing
to
do
the
design,
we're
evaluating
it.
Based
on
the
criteria
we
set
up
and
as
we
proceed
and
complete
the
design
we'll
start
doing
construction
station,
we
awarded
the
contract
in
May
2023,
and
this
station
is
going
to
be
completed
in
the
third
quarter
of
2025
and
I'll.
Walk
you
through
the
overall
layout
of
the
station
and
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
here.
G
E
G
Okay,
this
part
here
is
a
rendering
of
how
that
new
entrance
is
going
to
look
I'll
jump
back.
So
here
you
see
on
the
right
there's
that
area
on
the
sidewalk
and
where
you
see
the
corrugated
steel
and
that
bricks
that
brick
structure,
that's
that's
an
unused
MTA
staircase
and
we're
right
above
the
the
tracks
right
now.
G
That's
how
you're
going
to
buy
a
fare
if
needed,
go
through
the
turn,
Styles
and
then
go
down
to
the
platform
below
we're
installing,
of
course,
ADA
Compliant
stairs
in
that
location,
we're
updating
the
platform
boarding
area
and
we're
installing
tactile
Tiles
at
the
platform.
We're
also
doing
modifications
to
the
agent
Booth
to
make
sure
it's
ADA
Compliant
as
well.
G
Okay,
so
here
on
the
left
side
of
the
screen,
the
area
in
purple-
those
are
the
floor
plans
of
the
station
and
the
one
on
the
top
is
at
street
level.
The
one
at
the
bottom
is
at
platform
level.
So
on
the
street
level
side
you
can
see
there
on
the
left.
If
I
move
my
cursor
around
I
hope
you
can
see
that
can.
Can
you
see
when
I'm
moving
the
cursor.
H
G
Okay
thanks,
so
here
we
are
on
the
sidewalk
and
you
would
enter
right
through
the
station.
These
other
rooms
are
supporting
rooms,
they
contain
cleaner
rooms
and
the
elevated
machine
room.
You
would
enter
the
turn
Styles
and
then
go
to
either.
Platform
right
here
is
where
those
two
elevators
are
located
again,
one
to
either
platform
when
I'm
on
the
platform
level.
G
This
is
where
the
staircase
drops
you
off
just
outside
the
middle
of
the
platform
and
here's
where
the
elevator
drops
you
off
so
again,
that's
our
new
control
area,
our
two
new
staircases
and
two
new
elevators
and
again
as
part
of
this,
we
are
installing,
with
the
elevators
new,
upgraded
electrical
systems
to
support
it
new
cameras
and
all
the
supporting
elements
needed
for
the
elevator.
G
Here's
a
picture
of
it
at
the
platform
level.
So
you
can
again
see
up
here.
This
is
that
brick
structure
that
I
pointed
out
from
the
street
level-
and
this
is
that
corrugated
metal-
that's
on
the
sidewalk.
So
that's
that
area
here
and
that
this
is
going
to
come
out,
and
this
is
the
area
where
that
new
control
area
is
going
to
be
so
we're
again
as
part
of
this
and
to
support
the
elevator.
G
We
have
new,
concrete
work
going
on
the
elevator
framing
the
mechanical
work
to
support
that
the
electrical
work
to
support
the
elevator,
the
platform
is
being
repaired
and
again,
as
I
mentioned,
new
tactile
edges
are
being
installed
installed
throughout
the
platform
and
again
we're
installing
a
brand
new
control
area.
In
the
middle
of
the
platform,
that's
going
to
have
a
new
roof,
new
walls,
new
glazing,
new
everything,
because
it's
a
brand
new
and
pretty
inviting
control
area.
G
So
now
on
this
screen,
this
is
an
overall
view
of
the
entire
station
and,
as
you
can
see,
there's
an
existing
control
area
on
the
right
at
Church
Avenue
and
existing
control,
a
on
the
left
of
Caton
and
we're
putting
it
right
in
the
center
of
East,
18th,
Street
and
just
to
preempt.
You
know-
probably
maybe
some
of
your
obvious
questions
might
be-
is
why
we're
putting
this
right
in
the
middle
of
East
18th
Street?
Why
wouldn't
we
put
it
at
either
church
or
Caton?
G
Unfortunately,
those
areas
have
electrical
equipment
and
Signal
equipment
in
both
of
them,
and
so
the
relocation
of
that
would
really
add
a
lot
of
complexity
to
the
project
and
add
months
and
months,
as
well
as
quite
a
lot
of
money
to
make
that
real
location
and
so
going
through
that
you
can
see
this
East
East
18th
Street
entrance
and
you
can
actually
see
it
visibly
from
the
Church
Avenue
area
and
again
by
putting
it
in
here.
Another
benefit
it
does
bring.
G
Is
that,
as
you
can
see,
the
existing
stairs
at
the
station
are
either
one
of
the
platform
or
the
other,
so
now
at
least
we're
putting
in
two
more
stairs
that
give
the
customer
an
option
to
exit
the
platform
right
from
the
middle
of
the
station?
G
G
Additional
work
will
start
in
the
springtime
of
2024
and
we're
going
to
start
with
the
southbound
platform
by
the
end
of
2024,
we'll
start
to
do
work
on
the
North
platform,
we'll
start
to
install
the
elevators
in
the
third
quarter
of
2024
and
then
for
about
a
year
we'll
be
doing
mostly
elevator
work
and
installation
and
we'll
do
the
final
installation
and
commissioning
of
everything
by
the
third
quarter
of
2025..
G
It's
a
complex
project
to
be
truthful
about
it
and
we
actually
studied
quite
a
few
ways
to
get
this
done
as
efficiently
as
possible.
So
to
do
this,
we
are
going
to
have
what
you
see
there.
Three
partial
closures
and
with
those
closures
entail
the
station
will
never
be
closed
full
time.
G
G
Now,
even
with
that
work,
when
we
bring
in
items
like
the
structural
steel
and
we
start
to
Bridge
Over
the
tracks,
we
will
have
a
total
of
eight
weekend.
Full
closures,
so
when
those
occur,
those
will
occur
on
a
weekend
only
they
will
begin
on
a
Friday
night
at
10
pm
and
the
station
will
be
back
in
service
Monday
at
5
a.m
in
the
morning.
G
So
for
that
weekend
the
station
will
be
completely
closed
and
because
of
that,
MTA
will
provide
bus
service
on
that
line
so
that
customers
impacted
by
the
closure
we'll
still
be
able
to
get
to
the
next
open
Station
by
bus.
We
also
further
provided
some
constraints
that
this
work
could
not
occur
during
the
summer
time
period.
So
any
of
those
full
weekend
shutdowns
will
occur
on
weekends
that
are
Beyond
not
including
Memorial
Day
weekend
and
Labor
Day.
G
And
so
again,
if
you're
in
the
area,
you
may
have
seen
some
more
people
out
there,
the
contractors
had
teams
out
there,
mtas
had
teams
out
there
who've
been
surveying
the
station
we've
been
conducting
test
bits
to
make
sure
we
know
where
the
utilities
are.
We've
been
checking,
there's
quite
a
lot
of
tests.
We
have
to
test,
we
have
to
make
sure
of
on
the
additions.
G
What's
in
the
soil
where
the
utilities
are,
and
all
that
has
been
going
on
for
the
last
couple
of
weeks,
okay,
I'm
getting
to
the
very
end
of
the
presentation
right
now.
So
should
there
be
any
issue
on
the
project?
There
is
a
project
website
and
that's
what
you
see
before
you
and
again
we
are
going
to
share
this
information
with
the
community
board,
so
that
project
will
tell
any
customer
that
wants
to
read
up
what's
going
on
at
the
station,
what
what
is
you
know
happening
overall,
it
is
a
dedicated
project
hotline.
I
G
That's
available
24
hours
a
day,
seven
days
a
week
and
that's
for
any
questions
from
the
customers
that
are
not
emergency
related.
If
there's
an
emergency
of
course,
always
call
9-1-1
and
again
on
the
bottom,
you
see:
that's
MTA,
that's
us!
Our
community
relations,
representative,
Nick
and
his
contact
information
is
there
for
the
community
board.
G
Okay,
so
I've
gone
through
all
of
our
slides
and
we
can
open
up
to
your
questions
and
any
comments
from
the
group.
J
B
B
So
if
anyone
has
a
question,
just
raise
your
hand
and
I'll
call
you,
and,
and
on
mute
you
if
you're
muted
I
have
a
question
is
the
is
the
work
going
to
be
done
during
the
day,
not
nighttime
hours,
because
I
when
I
saw
that
18th
Street
I'm
thinking
of
the
people
that
live
on
that
block,
you
know,
probably
you
know,
suffer
some
while
this
is
going
on.
G
Okay,
good
question
so
again:
Brian
here
on
the
MTA
side,
the
contractors
team
can
chime
in
on
this.
My
understanding
is
most
of
the
work
will
be
occurring
during
daytime
hours.
The
work
will
be
in
compliance
with
New
York,
City
work
regulations.
G
Yeah
MTA
abides
by
all
the
New
York
City
work
regulations.
They
do
include
noise
limits,
I
mean
there
are
limits
out
there.
It
doesn't
mean
that
that
a
station
work
is
completely
silent.
It
means
that
it
will
be
tested,
During
certain
hours
for
a
certain
decibel
level,
X
number
of
feet
from
the
station,
but
again
like
even
it's
mta's
policy
to
always
be
a
good
neighbor.
We
minimize
excessive
work
to
the
extent
possible
and
again
we
do
the
bulk
of
the
work.
G
During
the
day
on
the
weekend
GEOS,
there
may
be
more
a
little
bit
more
work
in
the
evening
time
in
order
to
get
that
structural
steel
in
but
again,
I
would
defer
to
the
contractor
team,
but
also
reassure
the
board
that
you
know
MTA
always
remains
in
compliance
with
New
York
City
regulations.
On
that.
K
Oh
I
thought:
Steve
had
his
hand
up
before.
I
did
so
I
I
defer
to
Steve
Cohen
and
then
I
can
go
after
him.
Reverse.
B
K
Go
ahead
all
right,
so
so
thank
you
very
much
for
the
presentation,
Brian,
and
so
the
part
where
you
mentioned
this
was
a
public-private
partnership
where
the
developer
is
responsible
for
the
maintenance
of
this.
Basically,
my
question
is
so:
let's
say
this
project
does
finish
in
Q3
2025
as
projected
and
then
in
2029
There's
issues
with
the
elevators
and
let's
say
it
takes
an
unreasonable
amount
of
time
for
those
issues
to
be
resolved.
K
Does
this
mean
that
it's
100
on
the
developer,
like
the
MTA,
like
any
escalation
to
the
MTA,
would
just
be
forwarded
to
the
developer
and
that's
it
or
does
it
mean
that
hey
if,
by
a
certain
amount
of
time
the
the
complaint
is
not
addressed,
then
you
know
the
MTA?
Is
there
so
I'm
interested
in
like?
Is
there
any
SLA
once
this
goes
into
operational
mode,
regarding
expectations
for
the
developer,
to
address
any
escalations
that
come
up?
Thank
you.
G
Okay,
actually,
that's
a
very
thoughtful
reasonable
question:
okay,
so
when
the
MTA
has
gone
to-
and
we've
done
this
on
some
other
projects
as
well
to
outside
maintenance
of
elevators,
it
actually
is
a
quite
a
complex
contract
that
has
held
the
contractor
to
the
same
level
of
service
being,
provided
that
our
own
MTA
ene
group
is
required
to
provide
and
So
within
that
contract.
G
There
are
actually
quite
stringent
time
periods
when
the
contractor
has
to
respond
to
elevator
issues
and
if
those
do
not
occur
after
a
certain
period
of
time,
they
do
wind
up,
incurring
Financial
penalties
and
so
I
understand
your
concern
and-
and
you
know
like
I
said
it
is
a
good
question,
but
I
will
I
do
think
I
mean
as
a
as
a
New
York
as
an
MTA
worker
myself.
You
know
it's
a
pretty
solid
and
stringent
contract
to
make
sure
that
the
elevator
is
maintained.
K
C
You
so
much
I
appreciate
that
all
right
Carl
is
a
the
day
maintenance
level.
We
have
three
shifts
of
station
employees,
station
maintenance,
employees
so.
C
Day-To-Day
maintenance
and
cleaning-
you
know
we'll
we'll
maintain
this
elevator
and
you
know
we'll
be
responsible
for
the
the
day-to-day
maintenance
of
it.
K
B
Let
me
let
me
interject
for
a
second
being
the
lawyer
that
I
am
up
I'm,
just
curious.
I
could
well
see
the
entity
and
I'm
not
casting
any
aspersions
on
the
gentleman.
That's
here
for
the
contractor
that
all
of
a
sudden
the
contractor
disappears.
Is
there
some
sort
of
bonding
or
some
sort
of
security
system
and.
G
So
yeah
I
can
definitely
you
know,
reply
on
that
and
again,
because
I've
been
on
the
project,
the
entire
time
I've
I've
actually
been
with
the
MTA
for
over
over
20
years,
designing
stations
right
and
the
contract
is
stringent
right.
If
the
contractor
were
to
and
again
we
had
our
own
legal
team
on
this
right.
If
the
contractor
were
to
abandon
the
project,
we
absolutely
have
contingencies
in
there
for
the
MTA
to
take
it
over.
G
We
would
wind
up
assessing
penalties
to
the
contractor
to
cover
that
expense,
but
it's
it
has
been
very,
very
carefully
crafted
if,
if
anything
like
that,
and
even
before
something
like
that,
where
to
occur,
there
are
quite
a
few
intermediate
stages
of
remediation
that,
if
something
does
not
occur
in
the
contractor,
is
not
performing
maintenance.
There's
an
intervention
that
intervention
is
not
heated.
There's
another
intervention,
so
yeah.
B
M
Thank
you
Joel.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
the
presentation.
Brian
I
I
have
multiple
questions.
I'll
start
with
one,
because
I
see
other
people
have
their
hands
up
and
if
there's
timing
come
back
to
me,
but
the
first
one
I
want
to
clarify
the
slide
towards
the
end
where
you
said
about
the
60
days:
Northbound,
closure
or
southbound
closure
and
then
express
lane.
M
Closure
I'm,
just
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
understand
because
there's
the
B
and
the
q
line
that
runs
through
the
station,
so
I
assume
the
Northbound
closure
means
both
B
and
Q
bypass
Church,
going
northbound
I
assume
when
the
southbound
closures
are
happening.
M
That
means
both
B
and
Q
bypass
Church
going
Southbound
and
when
the
express
lane
is
closed,
my
best
assumption
is
that
means
you're
forcing
to
be
over
to
the
local
track
coming
into
Church
Avenue
from
either
Prospect,
Park
or
Newkirk,
and
both
B
and
Q
are
running
on
the
local
track.
I
guess
first,
is
that
am
I
describing
the
state
of
things
accurately
and
two.
M
If
I
am
for
that
last
scenario,
where
the
express
where
the
B
and
Q
are
running
on
the
local
track,
if
that's
the
case
does
both
the
well,
the
trains
have
to
be
spread
out
more
over
that
time,
because
you
know
they
can't
run
on
Parallel
tracks,
while
that's
going
on
at
least
at
church.
G
Oh
okay,
you're
wow!
So
actually
again
have
you
worked
for
Transit
before.
M
G
Yeah,
so
so
again,
you
have
captured
that
accurately
right.
G
When
the
express
track
is
out,
then
no
traffic
will
be
going
over
the
over
the
two
tracks
that
are
in
the
center
and
again
that's
where
we're
going
to
be
doing
certain
structural
activities
that
can't
have
any
trains
running
below
them,
and
so
all
traffic
will
have
to
route
to
the
two
local
tracks
that
are
on
the
outside
our
operations.
Planning
Group
I
mean
that's
their
bread
and
butter
is
setting
up
the
train
schedules,
and
so
they
would
normally.
G
This
is
something
that
we
routinely
do
on
on
most
of
the
lines
throughout
the
system,
and
so
when
that
occurs,
they
would
adjust
the
spacing
of
the
trains
and
Alternate
it.
It's
a
little
bit
out
of
my
area
of
expertise
on
that.
But
again
they
would
then
shift
those
local
and
express
tracks.
Bq
lines
onto
the
local
tracks
go
through
that
section
of
track
and
then
spread
back
out
to
the
to
all
four
tracks.
C
G
Southbound
is
the
first
one
and
that's
probably
going
to
occur
earlier
in
2024,
okay,.
C
We'll
we'll
update
the
community
community
board
and
all
the
elect
officials
when
we
have
the
details
on
the
on
the
actual
dates
for
these
closures,
bypasses
yeah.
N
Hi,
thank
you
for
the
presentation.
Thank
you
Joel.
My
question
was
just
was
about
the
artist
rendering
about
the
entrance.
I
saw
some
of
the
houses
on
the
left
side
and
the
photo
looked
slightly
different
than
what's
there
now
I
just
wondered
if
that
was
like
artist,
interpretation,
freedom
and
also
I
wondered
if
there
was
going
to
be
any
street
closures,
while
the
development
is
happening
or
the
construction
is
happening
since
that's
a
one-way
and
there's
like
City
bikes,
kind
of
further
down.
G
Okay,
again
Brian
here
on
the
MTA
I
can
respond
to
most
of
that.
I
may
need
some
assistance,
maybe
from
the
contractor
group,
if
they
can
weigh
in
on
this
a
bit
on
the
rendering
what
you're
seeing
there
was
a
little
bit
of
artist
interpretation.
G
There
is
an
existing
house
there
and
a
property
and
a
garage
in
that
area,
but
we're
not
going
to
be
affecting
that
property
at
all
and
we're
not
we're
not
going
to
be
doing
any
construction
work
on
their
property
as
far
as
the
street
closures
go
and
again,
if
anyone
on
the
contractor
side
can
weigh
in
on
the
latest
information
that
we
have
from
dot.
But
it's
my
understanding
that
dot
is
going
to
allow
the
MTA,
because
the
contractor
does
have
to
have
certain
areas
to
set
up
their
equipment.
G
G
It
may
be,
and
I'm
now
speculating.
It
may
be
that
that
may
occur
for
a
very
limited
period
of
time
if
we
have
to
do
something
like
move
a
crane
in
to
install
the
steel
work,
but
from
all
of
our
planning
and
our
discussion
with
DOT.
Currently,
it's
not
my
understanding
that
that
that
side
street
would
ever
be
closed
continuously
or
for
like
an
extended
duration
and
again
I
would
I
would
open
that
up
for
any
further
comments
from
our
contractor
or
our
Outreach
group.
L
Dot
but
obviously
typically,
they
want
to
prevent
any
type
of
closure
on
the
streets,
but
yes,
for
for
the
most
part,
you
know
we,
we
would
bare
minimum.
Have
one
lane
of
vehicular
traffic
open
taking
up
that
parking
Lane,
like
I,
said
if
we
have
to
close
it
down
for
a
very
short
period
of
time,
that
will
be.
That
would
have
to
be
coordinated
with
Dot,
and
you
know,
and
we
would
we
would
take
it
from
there.
G
Okay,
thanks
Jason
and
yeah.
Well,
you
just
heard
from
Jason
he's
one
of
our
contractor
teams,
who's
working
in
the
project
and
hence
has
been
doing
quite
a
lot
of
coordination
with
DOT.
C
It's
also
want
to
say
that
we'll
be
in
contact
with
the
people,
the
the
residents
of
18th
Street.
We're
actually
going
to
be
going
out
there
in
the
next
couple
of
days
to
to
talk
to
everybody
before
before
construction
gets
underway
in
a
in
any
kind
of
a
major
way.
A
Thanks
and
Andy,
let
me
know
if
you
want
company,
as
we
stroll
along
I,
also
will
bring
some
names
to
your
attention
for
some
of
the
merchants
and
I
know
I
know
you'll.
Do
your
due
diligence
without
me
suggesting
that
you
reach
out
to
the
bid-
and
maybe
you've
already
done
that
but
the
bed,
but
then
there's
some
merchants
not
involved
in
the
bid
on
that
block
and
let's
make
sure
that
they're
they
don't
get
caught
by
surprise.
A
My
question
is
about
the
fact
that
this
is
sort
of
a
quasi-road
bridge
and
I
and
I
assume
that
the
is
the
road
bridge
part
of
Dot's
Bridge
units.
Or
is
this
fully
an
MTA
asset.
G
Oh
okay,
so
again
you
guys
really
I
gotta
say
have
had
the
best
questions.
Okay
and
I
want
to
hire
you
and
put
you
on
the
project
team
that
that
dot
asset
belongs
to
dot
right,
and
actually
it's
quite
a
point
of
contention
that
dot
wants
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
adding
any
additional
loads
nor
harming
The,
Dot
Structure,
and
so,
in
fact,
all
of
our
all
of
our
construction.
G
Even
though
we
are
interfacing
with
the
dot
Bridge,
we
are
not,
although
we're
doing
an
inspection
of
it
to
make
sure
that
there
are
no
other
conditions
that
need
to
be
corrected
and
we've
also.
Let
dot
know
that
this
is
the
perfect
opportunity
for
them
to
make
their
repairs
to
the
station
to
the
bridge,
but
no
we're
we're
not
adding
to
that.
We're
not
impacting
that
bridge
and
we
are
keeping
all
of
our
equipment
well
off
of
that
bridge
to
not
affect
it.
G
It'll
it'll
have
a
little
bit
of
a
follow-on
effect
because
because
since
we
don't
want
to
put
additional
loads
on
the
bridge
itself,
we
do
have
to
take
over
a
little
bit
more
of
the
parking
spots.
Further
down
the
block,
but
just
to
the
point
that
you
brought
up.
That
is
precisely
why,
because
we
can't
put
additional
any
of
our
equipment
any
of
our
steel
that
we're
storing
on
the
bridge
itself.
G
I
hope
that
does
that
clarify
what
you
asked?
Yeah.
A
A
I
know
it
might
not
ever
snow
again,
but
but
that
that
would
be
and
then
even
Transit
when
it's
a
Transit
asset
has
a
pretty
narrow
scope
of
responsibility
for
shoveling,
so
it'd
be
to
to
build
an
ADA
Compliant
entrance
to
something
that
people
can't
get
to
because
of
snow
would
would
be
silly.
So
so,
let's
think
as
we
as
we
move
forward
about
that,
and
then
there's
a
few
more
that
we'll
be
in
touch
with
as
we
go.
Thank
you
and
Steve
Cohen
I'm.
A
Sorry,
I
put
your
hand
down
when,
because
I
thought
it
was
still
up
so
I
didn't
mean
to
do
that.
That
was
me.
M
Yeah
no
problem
Sean,
the
yeah,
just
a
follow-up
regarding
the
parking
space
lost
during
the
construction.
I
was
just
wondering
approximately
how
many
spaces
and
I
just
wanted
to
confirm
that
once
the
project
is
over,
there
won't
be
any
permanent
loss
of
parking
spaces
on.
G
Okay,
again
Brian
here
from
the
MTA,
when
the
project
is
over,
no,
there
will
be
no
permanent
loss
of
any
parking
spaces.
All
of
our
structure
is
off
of
the
sidewalk
during
construction.
Again,
I'd
have
to
defer
back
to
the
contractor.
G
M
G
Yeah,
so
you
just
heard
from
from
Rob
he's
a
project
manager
for
Halmar
he's
our
he's
our
contractor
the
lead
person
on
the
project.
You
know
who's
part
of
our
team
building.
This.
C
I,
just
want
to
clarify
dot
has
been
very,
very
amenable
and
collegial,
as
always
in
in
in
get
and
helping
us
with
with
our
permits.
So
I
just
want
to
make
it
clear
that
you
know
they've
been
they've
been
very
helpful
with
the
ocmc
and
with
the
the
in
the
permitting
process.
So
I
don't
want
anybody
to
think
that
you
know
that
they
they
haven't
been
so
and
we've
worked
with.
You
know:
we've
worked
with
them
as
far
as
like
you
know
the
bridge
issue
and
with
all
the
parking
issues.
C
So
as
always
a
thank
you
to
them,
for
you
know
helping
us
in
the
in
the
permitting
process.
B
And
we
thank
you
all
for
working
well
together.
So
did
anybody
else
have
a
question
going
once
going
twice
three
times,
so
thank
you,
the
MTA
people
and
policies
to
Andy
for
my
misattribution.
They
have
to
start
good
luck
with
this
project.
We
want
it
to
be
a
success
thanks.
C
Thanks
everybody
again
and,
as
I
said,
I'll
forward
the
presentation
to
Sean
right
now
and
we'll
constantly
be
updating
everybody
as
far
as
the
phases
and
as
far
as
the
service
impact
throughout
the
project.
So
thanks
again,
everyone
thank.
B
B
Again,
my
coach
here
Musa
to
introduce
our
our
next
guest.
J
Thanks
Joel
all
right
once
again,
thank
you
for
the
MTA
for
their
presentation.
Our
next
presentation
is
by
the
D.O.T.
We
have
a
presentation
on
the
Coney
Island
Avenue
and
Cortelyou
Road
intersection,
Casey
gorrell
is
going
to
be
presenting
from
the
D.O.T
I
believe
Casey's
here
so
Casey.
Whenever
you're
ready,
you
can
screen
share
and
get
started.
P
Okay,
good
evening,
everyone,
as
I
said
my
name-
is
Casey
Corral
and
I
am
from
New
York
City's
Department
of
Transportation
I'm,
going
to
be
presenting
a
summary
of
some
work.
That
dot
has
done,
analyzing
the
intersection
of
Konya
and
Avenue
and
Cortelyou
Road,
and
we
really
just
to
kind
of
preface
what
the
point
of
this
presentation
is.
P
We
really
want
to
use
this
opportunity
to
talk
to
the
community
about
potential
changes
and
solutions
that
we've
analyzed
for
the
intersection,
but
we're
not
really
coming
to
you
with
like
a
full
proposal
that
would
happen
later
in
the
process
just
to
kind
of
set
the
stage.
P
So
a
brief
outline
of
what
I'm
going
to
be
going
over
I'm
going
to
be
starting
with
an
overview
of
the
location.
Although
I'm
sure
everyone
here
is
very
familiar
with
the
intersection
I
want
to
give
a
summary
of
the
past
work
that
dot
has
done
at
the
intersection
summarize
the
existing
conditions
and
some
of
the
issues
that
dot
Sees
at
the
intersection
and
then
outline
the
four
scenarios
or
the
three
scenarios
that
we've
studied
for
potential
implementation
and
open
up
for
discussion
as
part
of
this
meeting
so
an
overview
of
the
location.
P
So
this
is
a
complex
intersection
at
Coney,
Island,
Avenue
and
Cortelyou
Road.
The
intersection
is
a
dog
lag
intersection,
which
means
that
it's
misaligned
and
results
in
complicated
movements
and
very
complicated
signal
timing.
So
for
reference,
Coney
Island
Avenue
is
running
North
South
cortelli
Road
is
running
East-West
and
this
view
is
looking
overhead
from
the
north.
P
Foreign
corridors
are
commercial
corridors
with
cortelia
Road
functioning
as
a
more
neighborhood
focused
retail
Corridor,
with
a
lot
of
restaurants,
bars
and
Retail
spaces.
The
b-68
bus
runs
north
and
south
on
Conan
Avenue
and
the
B103,
and
the
bm123
and
4
run
on
Cortelyou
Road
and
turn
onto
Coney
Island
to
head
north
at
the
intersection
and
I.
P
P
The
project
also
added
a
leading
pedestrian
interval
interval,
which
is
a
pedestrian
Head
Start,
as
well
as
a
flashing,
yellow
left
turn
arrow,
which
was
to
prevent
vehicles
from
jumping
the
red
and
conflicting
with
pedestrians
at
high
speed.
So
due
to
the
wide
nature
of
the
intersection
when
Coney
Island
found
left
turns,
would
get
the
green
light.
They
would
actually
jump
in
front
of
the
through
traffic
to
beat
the
through
traffic
into
the
intersection,
and
this
led
to
a
lot
of
near-misses
with
pedestrians
who
were
in
the
crosswalk
with
the
right-of-way.
P
One
thing
we
definitely
want
to
know
is
that
our
before
after
safety
analysis
really
only
accounts
for
reported
injuries,
and
it
doesn't
account
for
more
perceived
safety
issues
such
as
near-misses
or
the
general
feeling
of
of
being
unsafe
in
the
intersection.
So
we
can't
really
do
an
analysis
of
how
people
feel
in
the
intersection,
but
we
can
only
look
at
reported
injuries
where
we
did
see
a
reduction
of
crashes
at
the
intersection.
P
We
also
did
before
after
pedestrian
counts,
to
see
who
was
using
the
crosswalks
prior
to
the
project.
The
middle
Crossing,
which
was
unmarked,
was
the
second
most
used
Crossing
in
the
intersection
with
over
200
people
using
it
in
the
AM
period.
After
the
project
was
installed.
We
saw
140
to
a
260
increase
in
people
using
that
crosswalk
and
that
middle
Crossing
is
now
the
most
used
Crossing
in
the
intersection
with
over
500
people
in
the
peak
hour,
and
these
pedestrian
counts
were
collected
in
October
of
2019.
P
P
P
We
did
a
little
bit
of
analysis
of
what
people
were
requesting
and
pedestrian
issues
were
about
half
of
the
complaints
of
the
intersection,
primarily
with
the
conflict
between
pedestrians
and
vehicles,
going
at
the
same
time
across
Coney
Island
Avenue.
That
was
the
most
identified
issue
from
people
making
requests
for
changes.
P
P
The
main
issue
here
is
the
non-standard
movements,
so
the
through
movements
cross
multiple
crosswalks
as
you
go
along
color
tell
you
Road
by
Design
the
through
movements
function
as
a
left
turn
followed
by
a
right
turn
where
people
turning
left
across
the
middle
crosswalk
are
required
to
yield
to
pedestrians
with
the
right-of-way.
However,
the
non-stander
operations
does
lead
to
some
confusion
and
aggressive
turns.
P
Due
to
the
complex
movements,
the
middle
crosswalk
does
proceed
at
the
same
time
with
these
turns
due
to
Signal
timing.
We've
noticed
that
many
vehicles
do
not
fully
yield
to
pedestrians
with
the
right-of-way
in
this
Crossing,
and
we
also
want
to
know
that
pedestrians
in
the
center
section
have
no
dedicated
Crossing
time
in
the
signal
phasing
all
Crossings
are
shared
with
turning
vehicles
for
all
movements.
P
We
also
noticed
that
some
drivers
stop
in
the
middle
of
the
intersection
when
they
make
a
left
turn
from
Cortelyou
Road.
Even
though
the
signals
signage
and
markings
don't
require
that
and
a
big
issue
with
that
is
that
when
drivers
stop
at
that
middle
Crossing
they're
not
actually
able
to
see
the
signals
overhead
and
they
actually
have
no
idea.
When
they're
able
to
proceed
on
a
green
light
for
Coney
Island
Avenue.
And
this
leads
to
aggressive
driving
congestion
and
a
lot
of
honking.
P
Another
issue
at
the
intersection
is
the
difficult
left
turns
from
Coney
Island
Avenue
to
Cortelyou
Road,
due
to
the
heavy
through
volumes
on
Coney
Island
Avenue.
The
left
turns
are
very
difficult
to
make
and
there's
not
a
lot
of
gaps
in
vehicular
traffic
and
want
to
know
that
the
difficult
left
turns
is
a
driving
factor
which
led
New,
York
City
transit
to
consider
moving
buses
off
of
cortelli
Road
onto
Beverly
Road.
P
P
P
So
now,
I
want
to
go
through
some
of
the
design
scenarios
that
dot
has
analyzed
and
we're
really
looking
to
see
Community
input
on
these
and
gain
more
information
on
possible
issues
that
we
didn't
identify
and
also
get
reactions
to
some
of
these
proposed
treatments,
so
I'll
be
outlining
the
scenarios
and
going
over
pros
and
cons
of
each
and
also
providing
an
initial
determination
that
dot
has
made
on
potential
feasibility.
So
the
first
one
is
looking
at
protected
left
turns
for
Coney
Island
Avenue.
P
The
second
is
considering
an
all-pedestrian
phase
for
the
intersection,
and
the
third
is
looking
at
making
minor
markings
and
signage
improvements,
and
then,
at
the
end
of
this,
once
we
go
through
all
the
scenarios.
Opening
up
for
community
community
discussion
and
reactions.
P
So
the
first
scenario
we
looked
at
was
adding
protected
left
turns
to
Coney
Island
Avenue
to
make
the
left
turn
onto
Cortelyou
Road.
This
scenario
would
add
a
12
second
protected
left
turn
phase
with
a
green
arrow,
a
green
turn
arrow.
We
would
not
make
any
other
changes
to
the
intersection
under
this
scenario.
P
So
what
would
you
have
to
do
to
make
this
work?
Currently,
the
signal
timing
is
limited
to
120
second
signal
cycle.
A
good
way
to
think
about
signal
timing.
Is
that
it's
a
pie.
Everyone
gets
a
slice.
You
don't
really
add
time.
You
have
to
take
it
from
someone
else.
So
if
you
want
a
new
slice,
you
have
to
take
it
from
another
Direction,
and
a
big
issue
at
this
intersection
is
that
the
existing
phases
for
cortelli
Road
are
unable
to
be
merged
due
to
the
offset
geometry
and
vehicular
conflicts.
P
Another
issue
with
changing
the
signal
timing
here
is
that
the
quartelia
road
phases
cannot
be
shortened
due
to
the
crosswalk
clearance
time
and
the
roadway
width
to
allow
pedestrians
sufficient
time
to
cross
Coney
Island
Avenue.
So
as
a
result
of
these
limitations,
the
time
for
the
left
turns
must
be
taken
from
Coney
Island
through
traffic.
P
P
P
This
reduction
in
time
would
greatly
reduce
capacity
and
would
result
in
Q
spillbacks.
P
It
would
spill
back
all
the
way
to
Dorchester
Road
in
the
AM
and
would
spill
back
to
Avenue
C
in
the
PM
peak
hour.
The
level
of
service
would
actually
degrade
from
a
DNC
to
an
f
and
d,
and
the
congestion
would
be
very
noticeable
to
the
community
and
a
big
reason.
P
We're
like
we're,
not
super
concerned
about
overall
level
service,
but
the
Q
back
is
something
that
can
be
very
dangerous
for
people,
because
it
could
block
crosswalks
and
nearby
intersections
and
cause
a
lot
of
aggressive
driving
at
the
tail
ends
of
those
queue
bags.
So
that's
something
we're
definitely
concerned
about.
P
As
part
of
all
these
scenarios,
what
we
did
is
we
took
the
existing
roadway
users
and
determined
who
would
be
impacted
or
affected
by
these
changes.
So
adding
a
left
turn
phase
would
improve
operations
for
about
five
percent
of
roadway
users.
Those
are
the
people
making
the
lefts
from
Coney
Island
Avenue
to
cortelia
Road.
P
P
So
the
pros
of
this
scenario
is
that
it's
a
relatively
simple
installation
and
it
alleviate
alleviates
the
left
turn
issue
is
it,
which
is
something
that's
been
identified
from
the
community.
However,
there
are
several
cons.
This
would
severely
delay
through
traffic
on
Coney
Island
Avenue.
The
Q
spillback
would
block
access
to
the
left,
turn
lanes
and
would
potentially
negate
the
improvements.
So
with
all
the
delay
you
may
actually
not
be
able
to
get
into
the
left
turn
Bay
to
take
advantage
of
the
left
turn
signal.
P
This
proposal
would
also
negatively
affect
bus
speeds,
specifically
the
b68,
and
it
does
not
solve
or
improve
The
Pedestrian
issues
at
the
intersection.
So
at
a
very
high
level,
the
dot
assessment
has
finds
this
scenario
to
not
be
feasible.
P
P
P
How
would
this
work
so
to
allow
for
that
new
all-pedestrian
phase,
both
cortelli
Road
signal
phases
must
be
consolidated,
and
that
requires
all
traffic
on
cortelia
road
to
turn
right,
as
shown
in
the
diagram
on
the
right,
the
left
and
throughs
would
be
banned.
The
turn
restrictions
would
be
reinforced
with
marking
signage
and
vertical
elements.
Fdny
operations
would
be
maintained
and
emergency
vehicles
would
still
be
able
to
make
all
the
turns
with
sirens
and
lights
activated.
P
So
where
would
these
people
go
so
from
eastbound
Direction,
Cortelyou
Road?
The
nearest
available
options
are
to
use
Avenue,
C
or
Ditmas
Avenue.
To
then
make
the
left
or
right
onto
Cortelyou
Road
for
vehicles,
currently
traveling
Oh
and
just
a
note
through
traffic.
That's
about
130
vehicles
in
the
peak
hour
or
five
cars
per
signal
cycle
for
eastbound
traffic
on
cortelli
road
who's.
P
In
the
opposite
direction,
westbound
traffic
on
cortelia
road
heading
through
would
be
diverted
up
to
Avenue
C
we're
down
possibly
Westminster
to
titmus
Avenue
and
that's
about
95
vehicles
in
the
peak
hour
or
three
cars
per
cycle
and
vehicles.
Turning
left
to
go
Southbound
on
Coney
Island
would
also
use
Dorchester,
Road
and
Ditmas
Avenue,
and
that's
about
40
vehicles
or
one
car
per
signal
cycle,
and
one
thing
to
know
is
that
these
traffic
diversions
are
kind
of
the
worst
case
scenario.
P
P
P
So,
who
is
impacted
by
this
change,
so
the
diversions
would
worsen
operations
for
six
percent
of
the
intersection
users,
those
traveling
through
and
left
on,
Coney
Island
or
on
Cortelyou
Road?
That's
about
six
percent
of
people
in
the
intersection,
as
they'd
have
to
find
alternate
routes.
The
left
turn
phase
would
improve
operations
for
five
percent
of
users,
thus
making
the
left
turn
from
Conan
to
Cortelyou
and
the
all
pedestrian
phase
would
greatly
benefit
operations
for
37
of
roadway
users,
which
are
the
pedestrians
by
creating
conflict-free
Crossings.
P
So
pros
of
this
scenario,
it
improves
operations
for
a
large
percentage
of
users
42
it
alleviates
the
left
turn
issue,
which
is
the
second
most
requested
issue
at
the
intersection.
It
also
alleviates
The,
Pedestrian
safety
concerns
by
creating
Conflict
Free
Crossings
and
it
improves
bus
operations
which
would
alleviate
concerns
from
New
York,
City
Transit
about
bus
operation,
delays
on
Cortelyou,
Road
cons,
there
are
cons,
it
dies,
diverts
on
traffic
and
some
users
would
have
to
find
alternate
routes.
Maintaining
emergency
access
does
not
allow
for
physical
barriers
to
reinforce
the
turn
bands.
P
The
final
scenario
that
we
looked
at
is
relatively
minor,
where
we
would
make
very
minor
changes
to
the
intersection.
We
would
investigate
additional
yield
to
pedestrian
signage,
a
look
at
removing
parking
in
the
intersection
to
improve
visibility
and
also
look
to
widen
the
middle
crosswalk
to
improve,
yielding
compliance
and
visibility
and
reduce
that
stopping
in
the
intersection
issue.
P
P
J
Great
thanks,
Casey
I
appreciate
the
presentation.
Okay,
so
we
have,
as
many
of
you
know,
there's
a
huge
interest
in
the
subject.
So
we
do
have
a
long
list
of
people
who
do
want
to
comment
and
we'll
be
sharing
their
thoughts
tonight
to
keep
things
organized
as
we
do
in
every
subject.
J
Obviously,
I'll
be
calling
on
people
first
we're
going
to
try
to
call
on
board
members,
and
then
we
have
a
registered
list
of
the
public
who
want
to
make
comments
so
then,
after
I
think,
we've
generally
exhausted
board
members,
we'll
then
move
to
that
the
registered
list,
and
then,
if
we
exhaust
that
we
will
move
on
to
anyone
else,
has
their
hands
up.
J
J
Please
try
to
be
concise
in
your
comments,
your
questions
and,
of
course,
try
to
be
constructive.
I
know.
I
know
we
usually
are.
J
J
First,
we'll
start
with
board
members
looking
at
the
raised
hands.
Why
don't
we
start
with
Liz
Denise.
Q
Hi,
thank
you
so
much
for
this
presentation.
You
know
I've
heard
from
just
literally
hundreds
of
people
in
the
area
about
how
dangerous
this
intersection
is
especially
walking,
especially
Walking,
With,
Children
or
Mobility
Aid,
and
you
know,
I
also
walk
down
by
this
intersection.
Many
many
times
a
week,
I
walk
up
and
down
Coney
Island
Avenue
literally
every
day,
and
you
know
I
think
I.
Q
I
really
hope
that
there's
something
more
than
just
some
signage
changes,
because
you,
you
know
it's
very
clear
that
something
needs
to
change
to
make
this
safer
for
people
from
what
I've
heard
and
from
all
the
numerous
close
calls
I've
gotten
into
with
cars.
Turning
at
me,
I
think
Banning
left
turns
from
Cortelyou
to
Coney.
Island
Avenue
would
be
oh
sorry
from
yeah.
That
direction
would
be
a
great
place
to
start,
especially
if
there's
a
physical
way
to
kind
of
ban
it
and
without
impacting
other
things.
Q
Q
You
know
I
think
that
one
other
thing
that
really
just
Dawns
on
me,
though,
is
that
this
whole
street
Coney
Island
Avenue,
is
so
dangerous
to
cross
at
every
intersection.
And
if
you
look
at
the
traffic,
that's
coming
off
of
you
know.
Some
of
it
is
that
there's
these
big
heavy
trucks,
especially
the
illegal
53
foot
trucks
which
make
really
dangerous,
turns
at
different
places,
including
onto
Court
value,
so
that
they
can
deliver
things
to
the
merchants
there.
Q
But
you
know
foreign,
the
cars
that
I
think
have
made
the
most
dangerous
seeming
moves
have
often
been
what
seems
to
be
personal
cars,
especially
on
side
streets
like
turning
into
just
really
really
fast,
really
wide
turns,
because
the
street
is
so
wide
and
it
really,
it
seems
overdue
to
like
redesign
the
street
to
being
the
modern
street
that
can
be
safe
for
people
walking
as
well
as
move
this
traffic.
You
know
I
think
in
the
past,
when
last
dot
came
and
talked
to
people
about
this
around
2019.
Q
They
said
this
was
basically
impossible
because
it's
a
truck
route,
but
now
that
I'm
a
little
more
prepped
on
where
truck
routes
are
in
the
city,
there's
tons
of
truck
routes
throughout
the
city
that
have
a
lot
more
are
a
lot
more
hospitable
to
people
walking
and
biking
and
taking
the
bus,
including
Fourth,
Avenue
nearby,
and
you
know
other
places
in
Manhattan,
so
I
just
wanted
to
really
push
to
thinking
about
this
more
holistically
as
well.
Thank
you.
J
P
No
I
think
your
comments
definitely
taken
I.
Think
you
know,
Coney
Island
Avenue
is
definitely
a
priority
Corridor
for
the
agency,
we're
kind
of
just
like
at
this
time,
just
looking
at
the
specific
intersection,
but
your
comments
definitely
noted.
J
All
right
next
I'll
call
on
div
Kong.
M
M
I
guess:
I
found
of
the
three
scenarios
personally
I
found
most
appealing
scenario
too,
at
least
to
some
degree.
I
do
think
the
idea
of
foreclosing
left
turns
or
limiting
left
turns,
I
think
would
be
a
big
help.
M
I
guess
one
one
concern
I
do
have
once
you
know
thing:
I
I
think
you
maybe
might
should
give
some
more
thought
is
requiring
drivers
going
eastbound
oak
or
tell
you
to
turn
on
Coney
Island,
Avenue
I
guess
my
concern
with
that
is
because
Dorchester
is
the
one
way
and
the
other
direction.
If
for
the
drivers,
that
would
usually
take
portal
you
across
now,
they
would
have
to
go
all
the
way
down
to
dipmas
before
they
could
turn
so.
M
They'd
have
to
like
go
down
Coney
Island
Avenue
to
get
Miss
turn
back
up,
I
mean.
Obviously,
you
know
that
people
can
rearrange
the
roots
and
side
streets
and
what
have
you
but
I
that
that
one
seems
a
little
more
Awkward
for
drivers
than
in
the
other
direction,
at
least
to
me.
The
other
thing
I
was
thinking
of,
though
in
terms
of
left
turn
limitation.
M
If
you
gave
any
thought
to
limiting
left
turns
and
then
Northbound
and
southbound
Direction
like,
for
example,
I
think
in
the
Northbound
that
left
turn
onto
Cortelyou
I
I
would
assume
if
you,
if
you
foreclose
that
I,
would
think
Avenue
C
could
pick
up
that
traffic
relatively
easily
and
with
regard
to
southbound,
like
I
I,
think
it
might
be
worth
considering
assuming
the
buses
are
still
turning
left
or
tell
you
if
you're
making
that
a
only
buses
left
turn
during
with
peak
hours,
because
that
that
left
turn
lane
gets
really
backed
up,
but
limiting
to
us
the
buses
only
during
peak
hours,
I
think
it
would
really
help
I
have
a
few
more
seconds.
M
You
got
five
last
thing,
I.
Think
a
major
issue
is
the
double
parking
right
at
the
the
intersection
Road.
Those
auto
dealers
have
been.
You
know
using
that
lane,
for
as
long
as
I've
been
living
in
this
neighborhood
I
think
something
has
to
be
done
between
the
precincts
and
the
working
with
cb12,
because
that
that's
creating
problems,
because
drivers
get
impatient
or
frustrated
that
causes
them
to
run
red
lights
makes
the
intersection
unsafer
I.
Think
that's
a
big
part
of
the
problem.
J
All
right,
thank
you
very
much,
just
a
reminder
to
everyone
to
stay.
Stick
to
the
two
minutes
appreciate
it
all
right.
So
next
I
will
call
on
Nina.
R
Hi,
thank
you
very
much,
I'm
glad
to
see
that
this
intersection
is
getting
the
attention
it
so
desperately
needs
I'm.
Basically,
in
favor
of
the
second
solution
which
favors
pedestrians
I
think
that
Solutions
need
to
favor
pedestrians
across
the
board.
I
just
want
to
comment
that
I
mean
I.
Think
that
you
know,
just
as
people
got
used
to
the
no
right
turns
both
North
and
southbound.
For
many
streets
on
Ocean
Parkway
people
will
figure
it
out
from
here.
R
I
myself
on
a
few
occasions
when
I've
driven
there
I
have
done
other
routes
specifically
to
avoid
contending
with
that
intersection
either
getting
onto
kotelu
Road
from
I
mean
on
to
Coney
Island
from
Cortelyou
or
going
from
Coney
Island
and
needing
to
get
onto
cortelo
I
just
try
to
find
some
other
way
to
deal
with
it,
so
I
don't
have
to
get
stuck
in
that
Quagmire.
R
The
other
thing
that
I
I
just
want
to
comment,
which
I
think
may
be
a
kind
of
a
secondary
spillover
in
a
good
way,
is
that
the
things
that
go
on
a
little
bit
further
up
on
could
tell
you
a
little
bit
further
east
east
of
Croatia
when
you
get
into
the
argyle
rugby
area.
Is
that
you
know
this
is
there's
a
public
school
there.
R
J
Thanks
Nina
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Sean.
A
Thank
you
just
a
sort
of
a
quick
process.
Question
I
wanted
it
was
it
it's
a
thoughtful
presentation
that
I
appreciate
and
in
the
process
of
asking
for
Community
inputs
before
a
proposal
is
something
that
is
also
appreciated,
I'm
sure
you'll,
also
because
this
is
a
split
border.
You'll
be
sharing
this
with
cb12
at
and
I
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
this
is
accompanied
with
a
sense
of
urgency,
because
this
is
the
follow-up
presentation
to
a
site
visit.
We
did
back
in
February
that
took
some.
A
You
know,
effort
to
to
schedule
so
now
that
it's
done
and
all
that
thinking
has
gone
into
it.
I
hope
that
the
the
community
input
is
gathered
and
decisions
are
made
with
some
sense
of
urgency,
because
people
have
been
asking
for
a
long
time.
A
I
want
to
just
quickly
take
a
little
bit
of
issue
and
it's
not
to
be
picky,
but
but
with
the
description
of
of
Coney,
Island,
Avenue
or
Cortelyou
Road
as
being
a
more
neighborhood,
focused
retail
I
feel
like
our
community
members,
who
are
Pakistani,
American
and
Bangladeshi
American
might
disagree,
The
Barbers
and
the
groceries
and
the
masjids
on
that
block
might
feel
like
they're.
Also
a
neighborhood
focused
retail
Corridor,
so
only
insofar
as
that
informs
how
you
proceed
on
both
of
these
corridors.
A
I
just
want
you
to
to
be
mindful
of
that
and
then
I
I
love,
Steve,
Cohen's,
suggestion
that
you
know
we
look
at
maybe
teasing
out
the
left
turn
bands
to
see
if
there's
other
machinations
by
which
they
can
be
organized.
So
thank
you
for
all
of
that.
You
know
where
to
find
me
if
I
can
be
helpful.
J
P
This
one
so
I
think
one.
So
one
thing
that
was
noted
is
the
left
turns
for
Coney
Island
Avenue
to
Cortelyou,
Road
I.
Think
that's
something
we
did
consider
I
think
the
most
important
thing
is
that
we
definitely
don't
want
to
impact
bus
operations
so
doing
a
bus.
Only
turn
is
definitely
feasible.
P
Compliance
is
definitely
an
issue
that
we've
seen
where
we've
done.
Bus
only
left
turns
in
other
parts
of
the
city.
So
it's
not
insurmountable.
It's
just
definitely
something
that
would
need
thought.
The
reason
we
didn't
propose
it
here
is
because
it
would
really
not
solve
a
lot
of
the
issues
that
we
see
at
the
intersection.
P
So
the
you
know
the
inability
to
make
a
left
turn
Banning.
It
doesn't
make
it
any
easier
and
then
The
Pedestrian
issues.
We
don't
see
that
left
being
as
big
of
an
issue
as
the
Cortelyou
Road
left,
so
we
prioritize
focusing
on
those.
It's
definitely
something
we
could
look
at.
But
that's
that's
in
regards
to
that.
That
comment
for
the
neighborhood
retail
comment
definitely
heard
for
that
comment.
That's
definitely
more
of
a
not
to
generalize
the
entire
Corridor.
P
Just
more
for
like
this
immediate
intersection,
but
definitely
understand
that
comment
and
then
and
then
for
process.
Yes,
we
definitely
hear
that
this
is
definitely
something
that
the
communities
wanted.
So
it's
definitely
something
we
are
looking
to
prioritize
once
we
have
a
direction
to
go
in.
J
Thank
you.
One
question
I
have
just
to
jump
in
here.
Real
quick
is
I
know
that
the
dot
I
don't
know
what
they're
called,
but
I
know
the
dot
has
used
in
the
past
and
some
intersections
like
low
level
I,
don't
know
if
sidewalks
is
the
right
way
to
put
them,
but
islands
where
emergency
vehicles
can
actually
drive
over
them
pretty
easily,
but
they
tend
to
deter.
You
know
your
everyday
driver.
J
P
Yeah
we've
we've
definitely
considered
that
if,
if
we
do
go
forward
with
wanting
to
ban,
turns
and
doing
prohibiting
movements,
I
think
mountable
curves,
that's
what
they're
they're
referred
to
in
mountable
Islands.
That's,
definitely
something
we
would
consider.
We
would
maybe
do
something
a
little
more
quick
that
avoids
construction,
so
maybe
looking
at
more
vertical
elements
as
a
way
to
test
it.
First
before
we
commit
to
doing
like
in
roadway
construction,
but
definitely
have
considered
mountable
Islands
to
allow
for
emergency
access.
J
I
appreciate
that
next
is
Deborah
Valentin.
S
S
P
Yeah,
let
me
go
to
the
neighborhood
map.
That
might
be
a
little
more
helpful.
We
haven't
considered
changes
to
adjacent
streets.
We
were
keeping
this
much
more
focused
just
from
like
a
scale
standpoint.
S
P
I
think
that's
something
we
could
look
at
and
see
if
that
would
improve
operations.
It's
not
something.
We've
looked
at
so
I
can't
really
speak
if
if
it
would
help
or
not
at
this
time.
J
Thank
you
is
there:
are
there
I,
don't
know
that
there
are
any
other
board
members
who
are
raising
their
hand
all
right
so
with
that
I'm
just
going
to
shift
to
the
registered
list
of
speakers,
I
could
see
some
people
who
registered
to
speak
also
have
their
hands
raised
all
kind
of
go
between
go
in
that
order.
J
Let
me
just
pull
it
up
all
right.
So
first
on
the
list
is
Jeffrey
Thomas.
T
Hi
I'm
connected.
Thank
you
for
the
presentation,
I'm
glad
you
are
thinking
about
this
intersection
for
some
context.
D
T
At
Avenue,
C
and
Coney
Island
Avenue,
so
I'll
very
close
to
intersection
I
see
issues
with
it
all
the
time
when
I've
been
out
talking
to
folks
saying:
hey,
we're
petitioning
for
better
bike
infrastructure
or
bus
lanes,
or
you
know
speeding
up
with
us
or
whatever
a
lot
of
the
time.
T
When
I
get
a
lot
of
people
I
talk
to
say,
can
you
get
the
dot
to
think
about
codale
and
we're
telling
you
I
hate
that
intersection,
it's
so
dangerous
I
go
out
of
my
way
to
try
across
my
people
will
just
bring
this
up
when
you
bring
up
sort
of
anything
about.
You
know:
Street
safety
in
the
area
and
sort
of
Street
Effectiveness
in
the
area.
So
a
lot
of
people
want
this
and
I
think
that
speaks
a
little
bit.
T
I
would
say,
in
my
opinion,
that
there's
an
interest
from
the
community
and
doing
more
so
I
would
encourage
you
to
sort
of
think
about
more
ambitious
changes.
I
think
the
barn
stands
proposal.
You
have
really
feels
like
a
minimum
I
think
I'm.
T
It
I
think
it's
a
decent
idea.
I
I
think
it'll
make
a
lot
of
people
feel
safer,
like
the
fact
that
cars
have
what
they
think
are
green
lights,
but
there's
also,
you
know
the
intersection
Crossing
like
it
feels
like
you're
allowed
to
turn,
but
there's
also
the
pedestrian
signal
is
deeply
confusing.
It
feels
deeply
dangerous.
T
I
do
want
to
encourage
you
also,
like
I,
know,
there's
a
lot
of
families.
A
lot
of
sort
of
people
who
need
have
accessibility
needs
for
crossing
this
area.
I
want
to
encourage
you
to
think
about
bleeding
Vehicles
versus
pedestrians.
When
you
think
about
who
is
what's
going
to
change,
it
is
significantly
easier
for
vehicles
to
go
a
little
bit
out
of
their
way
versus
faster,
because
we
know
there
are
pedestrians
and
myself
included.
Who
will
go
out
of
their
way
to
avoid
the
intersection
who
will
say?
T
Oh,
maybe
I
just
won't
go
to
this
business
or
this
location.
That's
on
the
other
side.
I
don't
want
to
have
to
cross
it.
So
I
think
I.
Think
in
terms
of
sorry
how
you
weight
this.
There
should
be
a
little
bit
of
like
I
I.
Think
it
is,
it
picks
up
a
lot
longer
for
a
pedestrian
to
go
and
block
out
of
their
way
to
get
somewhere
and
I.
Do
want
to
repeat
the
comment
about
the
sense
of
urgency.
T
I
I
think
this
is
did
this
is
something
people
have
we
really
wanted
I
wanted.
It
would
be
good
to
have
a
best.
Have
it
soon.
One
thing
I
want
to
mention
quickly.
Yeah.
J
Yeah,
no
just
you're
a
bit
over
there
might
be
time
at
the
end.
I'll
call
him:
okay
go
ahead.
Thank
you.
J
I
also
could
be
a
third
person
want
to
Echo
the
urgency
around
this
appreciate
that
dot
is
looking
into
it,
but
it
would
be
helpful
if,
if
we
could
pick
up
the
pace,
thank
you
all
right.
Next
I'm
going
to
call
on
link
to
the
list.
Sorry
Eric,
Jenkins,
Salin,.
U
Hi,
thank
you
so
much
for
your
time,
I'm
wondering
if
we
could
stop
the
screen
share,
so
I
can
get
a
little
more
FaceTime
I'm,
going
to
use
a
little
visual
aid
here.
Apparently
I
can't
screen
share,
but
my
proposed
redesign
is
called
The
Long
Island.
Essentially
it
would
be
extending
the
current
Island
farther
north
and
south
to
physically
block
the
the
left
turns
going
into
the
intersection
which
seem
to
be
causing
the
most
confusion
and
Eric.
A
U
U
Think
that
would
discourage
kind
of
reckless
driving
patterns
where
people
will
kind
of
go
around
or
gun
through
left
turn
signage,
and
one
thing
that
I
wanted
to
highlight
was
that,
in
your
analysis
of
the
second
proposal,
you
talked
about
the
types
of
people
that
would
benefit,
and
you
mentioned
that
52
percent
of
users
would
see
limited
improvements
and
then
the
37
of
pedestrians,
who
would
see
Improvement
my
feelings
that
more
people
would
be
attracted
to
this
intersection,
so
that
percentage
of
pedestrians
that
would
benefit
would
increase
dramatically
as
they
patronize
businesses
in
that
area
and
I.
U
Think
that's
one
way
of
gauging.
You
know
how
people
feel
about
their
safety.
There
is
that
when
they
feel
safer
there
they
will
go
there
more
often
so
I
think.
Essentially,
the
benefit
that
you
have
calculated
is
an
understatement,
because
it
would
be
reducing
demand
for
that
intersection.
J
P
No
I'd
have
to
some
other
comments
about
kind
of
going
further.
I
think
this
could
definitely
just
be
a
step
one
of
looking
at
intersection
improvements
and
even
entire
Corridor
improvements.
This
doesn't,
you
know,
preclude
any
like
larger
Visions
for
Coney
Island
Avenue
orchardia
road.
P
So
it
could
just
be
a
more
kind
of
spot
treatment
that
we
do
right
now
to
the
presentation
Eric
that
you
showed
I'm
pretty
sure
I
have
a
copy
because
I
snooped
on
it
in
the
neighborhood
Facebook
page
when
you
posted
it,
but
definitely
send
a
copy
and
we'll
review
it.
It
was
I
think
a
bit
of
an
inspiration
for
our
number
two
proposal.
P
J
F
Hi
hi,
Casey
I
think
I'm,
your
neighbor.
How
you
doing
you
are
my
neighbor,
hi
Tom
and
Evan
lives
lives
next
next
on
our
floor
also,
so
it
took
me
a
second
to
recognize
you
on
the
in
two
Dimensions,
but
I
love
the
no
left-hand
term
plan
I
just
want
to
say,
support
it.
You
know
I
got
two
little
kids,
we
cross
the
intersection.
I
really
feel
like
it's.
F
The
only
solution
is
Banning
left
hand
turns
so
I
really
like
it,
and
the
only
other
suggestion
I
have
is
maybe
raising
the
crosswalks
on
on
Cortelyou
so
that
that
would
slow
everybody
down
who's
making
turns.
But
thank
you
for
your
work.
I'll
bother
you
in
the
hall.
I
Hey
yeah
decoratively
support
for
option
two
here.
It
seems
like
a
good
Improvement
and
a
win-win
for
everyone,
because
it'll
be
less
confusing
for
drivers
and
it's
not
too
far
to
go
out
of
the
way
that
the
other
alternative
and
also
yeah
I
didn't.
But
it
would
be
good
to
look
at
multiple
terms,
the
or
other
things
like
that
kind
of
not
just
to
be
a
physical
barrier
to
drivers,
making
the
turn.
That
would
be
not.
I
Makes
it
a
lot
clearer
what's
happening
there
I
feel
like
there's
a
lot
of
signs
on
a
lot
of
other
intersections.
So
if
it
just
depends
on
signage,
it's
easy
for
drivers
to
miss
that
and
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
tack
on
the
list
that
well.
This
is
a
perfectly
bad
intersection.
I
All
of
Coney
Island
Avenue
is
bad
and
I
know
you're,
not
looking
at
the
whole
coroner
today,
but
would
like
to
get
it
on
the
other
team's
radar
that
all
of
the
corridors
I
can
use
Improvement
and
there's
a
pretty
big
opportunity
for
that,
because
the
kernel
there
is
two
lines
of
traffic
in
each
Direction,
but
there's
a
pretty
good
proof
of
Concepts
that
we
could
work
with
one
line
of
traffic,
because
if
you
go
down
in
front
of
the
Island
Avenue
in
the
hour
of
the
day,
there's
always
double
parking,
every
other
block.
I
I
Then
I
had
one
question
so
yeah
we'd
like
to
see
changes
that
could
tell
you
as
soon
as
possible,
but
we're
I
was
wondering
what
kind
of
timeline
D.O.T
is
looking
at
for
how
long
it
would
take
to
come
back
with
the
whole
proposal.
Thank
you.
P
Great
questions
for
Coney
Island
Avenue
as
a
whole
I,
definitely
think
it's
something
that
the
agency
can
look
at.
We
can
bring
it
back
to
our
groups
for
further
discussion
for
timeline.
I
think
it
really
will
depend
on
what
alternative
is
picked.
I
think
there
definitely
does
seem
to
be
consensus
of
trying
to
do
something
bigger
here.
P
This
would
be
a
pretty
large
signal,
heavy
project
which
we'd
have
to
talk
about
signal
capacity,
but
I
think
we
would
look
to
do
in-house
improvements
next
year
once
we
develop
a
full
proposal
and
come
to
the
boards.
I
think
we'd
have
a
better
idea
of
an
exact
timeline,
but
I
think
the
goal
is
to
potentially
do
something
here
in
the
near
term.
So.
I
V
V
V
I
drive
I
drive
through
this
intersection.
I
walk
through
this
intersection.
I
would
never
dare
to
bike
through
this
intersection,
but
you
know:
I
do
all
three
and
I
would
happily,
as
a
as
a
driver,
do
something
else
other
than
turning
left
into
this
Lane.
My
kids
are
tired
of
hearing
me
talk
about
how
unsafe
this
intersection
is.
V
I
will
not
let
them
cross
with
me
in
The
Pedestrian
area
I
go
to
the
other
side,
which
at
least
I
feel
like
is
a
little
more
manageable,
so
I
just
wanted
to
Echo
what
everyone
else
has
been
saying
around
the
sense
of
urgency
to
me.
This
feels
like
a
disaster
week
to
happen,
and
I
really
want
to
impress
upon
you
to.
You
know
to
make
this
top
priority,
because
it
feels
like
it's
only
a
matter
of
time
before
something
terrible
happens.
I
V
Talking
about
this
for
years,
so
I
think
the
all
pedestrian
phase
that
you
mentioned
sounds
great.
A
lot
of
the
ideas
that
other
people
mentioned,
I
think
are
also
really
terrific.
V
Minor
changes
are
just
to
me.
That's
like
not
even
an
option,
and
you
know
sad
see
that
on
the
on
the
on
the
list
of
options,
I
know
yeah
to
sort
of
put
that
there
too,
but
this
feels
like
a
major
overhaul
is
needed.
Thank
you.
J
Thank
you.
Next,
we'll
move
on
to
Gary
Roth.
W
Good
evening
and
I
think
my
major
points
have
been
touched
on,
but
none
of
this
will
be
effective
if
parking
enforcement
is
not
real.
One
of
the
diagrams
showed
Coney
Island
Avenue
coming
south
as
being
two
lanes.
Everybody
knows
it's
only
one
lane
so,
of
course,
there's
going
to
be
a
backup
to
Avenue
C.
W
If
we
change
the
lights,
it's
one
lane
parking
enforcement
cars
are
just
left
for
months,
even
years
blocking
sidewalks
double
parking,
there's
even
a
no
standing
Zone
from
4
to
7
P.M
right
on
the
corner
of
Coney
Island
and
could
tell
you
Road,
that's
never
enforced
and
usually
car
is
a
double
part
there.
So
unless
you
can
get
parking
enforcement,
there
is
no
point
in
doing
any
of
this.
W
P
W
One
thing
is
that
it's
two
precincts
which
makes
it
that
much
more
difficult,
two
Community
boards,
it's
a
very
complicated
process
and
I,
understand
that,
but
at
least
we're
raising
our
voices
now
to
perhaps
get
something
done.
Those
auto
shops
have
blocked
traffic
I've
been
here
35
years.
They
block
access
to
the
supermarket,
to
the
elderly,
they
block
traffic.
Nobody
does
anything.
X
Hi
I'm
here
sorry,
I'm
off
camera
and
I
have
coveted
and
I'm,
not
beautiful,
right
now,
but
I
so
I'm,
a
pedestrian
I
live
on.
I
live
right
near
that
corner
and
I
have
a
10
year
old
son
and
I
won't
cross
in
the
middle
and
I
won't
let
anyone
cross
with
my
son.
Like
that's
just
my
rule,
it's
kind
of
my
own
Only
Rule
and
I
I.
Take
the
68
a
couple
times
a
day
and
I
stand
there
in
front
of
that
Deli.
X
Basically,
you
know
for
a
few
minutes
a
day
watching
that
intersection
and
every
single
day
someone
almost
gets
hit
and
I'm
just
really
I'm
really
interested
in
the
way
you
you
know,
use
the
data
to
inform
this
because
I
think
it's
it's
got
kind
of
a
garbage
in
garbage
out
feel
to
me
like
we
count,
we
count
the
number
of
formal
complaints.
Okay,
most
people
are
not
going
to
do
that
right.
X
Just
like
most
people
are
not
going
to
show
up
to
a
meeting
like
this
and
we
count
deaths
and
accidents.
But
what
about?
What
about
the
thousands
of
people?
Who've
gotten
almost
hit?
You
know
and
I
just
you
know
anytime.
Anyone
mentions
that
intersection.
They
talk
about
how
bad
it
is
or
that
they
won't
use
it
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
we
can
look
at
other
ways
to
use
the
citizens
to
inform
how
dangerous
this
is
like
a
lot
of
times,
I've
stood
there.
X
Thinking
I
need
to
just
stand
here
for
a
full
day
and
record
this
on
my
camera
on
my
phone.
So
people
really
get
it.
You
know
I
I've
filed
some
of
those
complaints
actually
got
an
email
back
saying
we
hear
you,
but
we
looked
at
it
and
we
don't
think
there's
a
problem
and
that's
really
like
you
know.
It's
I
think
that
they're
I
think
that
the
citizens
can
be
used
to
inform
this
better
right,
like
I.
P
Yeah
I
think
I.
Think
I.
Think
you
have
you.
You
bring
up
a
good
point.
We
are
limited
in
our
data
like
we
do
like
to
track
safety.
We
only
use
injury
and
fatality
statistics,
so
we
don't.
P
We
aren't
able
to
really
quantify
those
near-miss
scenarios,
but
I
do
think
it
does
speak
volumes
that
we
are
coming
here
because
by
all
accounts,
a
40
reduction
in
pedestrian
injuries
following
a
project
is
you
know
in
the
rest
of
the
city
kind
of
deemed
to
success
to
some
extent,
so
we
are
coming
back
because
we
do
know
that
there
are
still
existing
issues
at
the
intersection.
This
was
driven
by
that
community
outreach
in
earlier
this
year
and
in
2022,
where
we
saw
a
spike
in
request.
P
So
we
we
are
taking
notice
and
we
do
know
that
there
are
existing
issues.
P
There
are
limitations
in
like
quantifying
some
of
those
issues
that
people
are
having
at
the
intersection,
because
there's
just
not
ways
to
record
that
data
easily.
But
your
comments
are
definitely
noted
for
sure.
J
Okay,
great
just
I,
think
next
up
is
Joel
Siegel.
B
For
clarification
purposes,
Casey
first
of
all,
I
am
totally
in
favor
of
an
oil
pedestrian
phase.
That
I
think
that's
essential
to
the
intersection,
but
am
I
correct
that
having
that
oil
pedestrian
phase
requires
elimination
of
the
left
turns
because
you're
limited
by
the
120
seconds
is
that
an
accurate
statement
correct.
P
J
Thank
you.
So
let
me
just
I,
don't
see
anyone
else
to
raise
hands.
We've
talked
to
the
public
comment
list.
If
you
have
comments
that
you
want
to
make,
we
still
have
a
little
bit
more
time,
feel
free
to
raise
them
and
I'll
call
on
you.
But
since
I
have
the
floor
for
a
bit,
I
will
get
on
my
soapbox
for
a
second.
J
Is
it
possible
that,
even
if
you
adopted
the
pedestrian,
all
pedestrian
Crossing
that
you
also
add
some
like
vertical
temporary
raised
I,
don't
know
material
or
flags
for
them
for
drivers
to
get
them
to
slow
down
just
in
case
they
decide
to
turn
left
anyway,
because
imagine
the
transition
period
from
the
old
rules
to
the
new
rules
is
going
to
be
a
little
rough
and
does
that
come
with
that
or
no
yeah.
P
Those
would
all
be
paired
so
those
improvements,
so
it
would
be
adding
the
whole
pedestrian
phase
Banning
the
turns
and
then
reinforcing
them
with
some
sort
of
vertical
element
and
additional
signage.
So
those
are
all
paired
together
as
one
as
the
number
two
scenario.
P
The
biggest
thing
we
need
to
do
is
we
need
to
meet
with
the
firehouse
and
talk
through
operations,
because
you
know
the
brighter
flat
bush
is
like
an
enormous
fire
truck
and
it
has
to
make
a
lot
of
turns.
So
that's
something
we
need
to
coordinate
still.
So
that's
something
we
need
to
do
further
review.
If
that's
the
scenario
we
move
forward
with
I
understand.
B
Yeah
I'm
just
I'm
just
curious,
is
it?
Is
it
within
the
realm
of
possibility,
while
you're
mulling,
the
soil
over
to
just
simply
put
up
a
couple
of
emphatic
signs
to
those
people
who
do
turn
left
that
you
have
to
yield
to
the
pedestrians
right.
P
So
that's
something
that
we
kind
of
considered
as
part
of
the
minor
improvements
and
it's
something
we
could
look
at
doing
in
the
near
term.
We
are
limited
in
this
type
of
signage,
that's
approved
by
the
the
federal
system,
so
I
think
that's
something
we
could
review
the
issue
with
additional
signage.
Is
that
how
effective
is
it?
We
can
take
a
look
at
that,
but
in
our
experience,
turning
turning
yielding
signage
is
has
very
minimal
effect
on
Behavior.
J
X
Hi
me
again
thanks
for
your
response
before
I
appreciate
it
I
think,
while
we're
on
the
subject
of
the
yield
you
mentioned
earlier,
that
people
are
supposed
to
give
right
away
to
pedestrians
but
in
my
experience
their
their
turn.
So
they
maybe
they
think
they're
going
straight
on
that
dog
leg.
P
No
I
think
that's
like
a
good
point,
I
think
in
general,
when
you
turn
left,
you
are
required
to
yield
and
that
I
think
that
is
in
general,
expected
throughout
the
city.
So
if
you
were
turning
left
at
Cortelyou
onto
Westminster,
like
it's
expected
that
you
yield
to
pedestrians,
I
think
I
think
you
do
highlight.
One
of
the
issues
at
this
intersection
is
with
that
middle
crosswalk.
P
We
by
Design
we're
trying
to
treat
the
through
volume
as
the
through
traffic
as
a
left
and
then
a
right,
so
you
do
like
yield
kind
of
at
those
crosswalks.
Do
you
think
that's
the
kind
of
primary
issue
here
is
that
drivers
don't
really
agree
with
that
and
they
treat
it
as
a
through
and
don't
yield
so
I
think
that's
like
kind
of
essentially
the
whole
issue
that
we're
trying
to
resolve
with
this,
which
would
be
resolved
under
the
all-ped
phase.
X
J
All
right,
thank
you
very
much
again.
I
see
I,
think
Patrick,
I'm,
not
sure
if
you
had
a
follow-up
or
if
you
just
I,
still
have
your
hand
raised.
J
Okay,
great
all
right,
I,
don't
see,
we've
exhausted
the
public
comment
list,
I,
don't
see
any
hands
up
in
the
meeting,
so
I
think
I
think
we're
all
set
with
this
subject
going
once
going
twice:
oh
there's,
Jeffrey
Jefferson.
T
T
I
just
wanted
to
mention
being
at
Avenue,
C
and
CIA,
and
seeing
the
cars
and
seeing
the
cars
that
are
coming
onto
the
small
strike
side
street
slogan
place.
They
are
going
very
fast,
I
think,
there's
a
sense
that
I
assume
they're
coming
off
an
Ocean
Parkway
and
they're
like
I've,
been
going
fast
for
the
last
like
10
miles,
I'm
gonna
keep
going
past
as
far
as
I
can
I
like
slogan
Place
once
you
get
here
is
absolutely
residential.
T
Cars
are
not
feeling
like
they
need
to
be
slowing
down,
need
to
be
treating
this
and
it's
residential
for
several
blocks
and
the
other
direction
too.
You
know
before
you
get
to
Coney
Island
Avenue,
so
anything
sort
of
on
the
physical
side
that
could
make
it
harder
to
speed
and
to
sort
of
take
these
at
full
speed
would
be
helpful
and
I
think
also,
it's
been
mentioned
a
couple
of
times,
there's
double
parking.
There's
a
lot
of
abandoned
car,
not
quite
abandoned.
T
There's
the
the
there's,
the
repair
shops
that
are
doing
work
on
them.
It
effectively
means
that
throughput
on
Coney
Island
Avenue
in
this
at
least
this
couple
of
blocks
of
each
Direction
is
one
lane
only
so
I
think.
If
there's,
if
some
of
the
improvements
you
want
to
make
or
could
make
like
I
say,
more
ambitious
improvements
would
involve
narrowing
the
streets.
That's
effectively
accounted
for
people,
there
isn't
capacity
for
two
lanes
of
traffic
all
right
currently
because
of
the
way
people
are
using
the
streets.
T
So
there
is
room
I,
think
for
more
ambitious
redesigns
at
the
street
to
make
it
feel
slower.
P
Yeah
just
to
respond
to
the
Slocum
comment.
I
do
think
a
lot
of
drivers
are
using
Slocum
as
a
shortcut
to
avoid
the
left
turn
onto
cortelia
at
Coney
Island.
So
if
there
was
a
left
turn
phase,
I
think
a
lot
of
that
traffic
would
use
the
primary
roads
instead
of
taking
shortcuts
to
the
neighborhood
and-
and
we
can,
we
can
take
the
comment
back
for
additional
improvements
there.
It
might
be
decoupled
from
this
project,
but
we
can
kind
of
note
that
and
take
that
back.
T
Right,
I,
I
think
I
wasn't
quite
clear
what
I'm
saying
is
from
what
I
see
about
cars
going
fast,
I
assume
they're
doing
the
same
thing
at
cortellium
with
CIA,
which
is
not.
E
T
In
front
of
me,
so
I
see
it
slightly
less
often
anything
you
can
do
on
the
sort
of
western
side
of
those
roads
to
encourage
cars
to
flow
down
both
on
Cortel.
You
went
on
the
other
streets
that
come
off
of
Ocean,
Parkway
I
think
would
just
have
a
good
Improvement
for
safety.
Thank
you.
J
All
right,
I
think
that's
it
for
our
speakers
for
tonight.
I
want
to
thank
Casey
and
the
dot
for
coming
and
presenting
to
us
providing
all
the
down
information
and
the
options
we
appreciate
it
and
we
look
forward
to
seeing
some
of
these
changes
implemented,
hopefully
in
the
near
future.
I
just
want
to
thank
all
the
board
members,
the
members
of
the
public
and
any
Representatives
who
came
tonight
to
discuss
the
subject.
We
really
really
appreciate
that
your
input
in
the
community
is
super
important.
B
J
Yes,
yes,
yes,
of
course,
and
Sean
in
the
office
of
course,
I
don't
know
how
to
wrap
up
these
meetings.
We
have
to
take
a
vote
or
we
just
say
goodbye.
J
J
You
chair
all
right.
We
are
ending
the
meeting.
Thank
you.
Everyone
for
coming
have
a
good
night.
Thank.