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Pre-Meeting of the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners' for May 19, 2020.
A
They
call
this
may
19th
pre
meeting
of
the
Buncombe
County
Commission
to
order.
Thank
you
all
for
being
with
us
and
there's
been
a
request
to
move
under
staff
updates
to
move
the
FY
21
education
requests
from
a
BTech
Buncombe
County
Schools,
Nashville
city
schools,
up
to
the
to
make
that
the
first
item
on
our
agenda.
If
that's,
okay
with
everyone
cuz,
we
got
a
lot
of
folks
here,
we'd
like
to
hear
from
them
and
then
be
able
to
let
them
go
as
we
talk
about
our
other
items.
A
So
are
there
any
questions
about
any
other
items
on
the
agenda
today
and
there
are
there
any
other
items?
Any
commissioners
would
like
to
request
to
be
added
to
the
agenda
all
right.
Thank
you
very
much.
Well
then,
let's
go
ahead
and
get
started
and
we'll
begin
with
the
FY
21
education
request
and
I
think
Jennifer
Jennifer
Barnett.
Are
you
going
to
start
us
off
on
this?
Are
we
going
to
start
right
with
the
schools.
B
C
Technology
will
work
I'm,
going
to
begin
our
presentation
for
Buncombe
County
Schools,
with
the
same
two
basic
budget
concept,
slides
that
that
I've
used
for
yes,
the
past
eight
years,
because
we
feel
like
it's
so
important.
These
two
slides
reflect
what
I
think
we
need
to
understand
regarding
our
particular
budget,
and
the
first
thing
to
understand
is
where
our
funding
sources
are,
because
it
varies
not
a
not
quite
a
bit
vast
majority
of
school
system.
C
Public
school
systems
across
the
state
are
very
similar
to
to
ours
in
terms
of
funding
sources,
but
you
will
notice
that
the
vast
majority,
the
sixty
two
point,
four
eight
forty,
eight
percent
of
our
funds
for
operating
expenses
comes
from
the
state,
so
that
means
we're
highly
dependent
upon
the
state
budget.
I
think
you
also
can
recall
that
we
went
without
a
a
current
budget.
C
Now,
when
I
took
office,
I
was
fortunate
enough
to
you
know,
9/10
right
at
the
first
little
recession
and
you
might
recall
the
stimulus
and
stabilization
funds
that
came
in
from
the
federal,
so
that
percentage,
I
think
at
one
time
is
freeze
me
I,
believe
I'm
right
went
up
to
14%,
so
sort
of
anticipate
with,
what's
coming
from
the
federal
government
regarding
Kovac
19
relief
that
that
number
for
next
year
will
go
up.
But
we
are
still
waiting
by
the
way
to
see
the
first
dollar
drop
to
us
for
Kovac
19
relief
and.
E
C
May
be
true
of
the
county
as
well.
Our
second
slide
again
basic
concept:
where
does
our
operating
budget
go?
Probably
no
surprise,
because
all
of
us
in
public
schools
we're
in
the
people
business
so
clearly,
88
percent
of
our
budget
goes
into
salaries
and
benefits
of
our
staff,
our
people,
but
those
two
slides.
It's
very
important
to
understand
both
of
those
because
I
think
that's
at
the
core
of
what
our
budget
represents
in
Buncombe,
County
Schools.
C
The
next
two
slides
represent
and
we'll
say,
challenges
to
our
budget.
They
represent
some
negative
impacts
that
have
occurred
that
we
have
to
face,
and
you
will
see
that
the
first
of
those
is
a
drop
in
membership.
The
enrollment
piece
and
that's
been
a
since
2014-15
you'll,
see
that
the
pattern
for
the
five
years
was
a
decreased
enrollment.
Now
the
good
news
that
I'm
able
to
report
is
that
this
current
year
we
actually
put
brakes
on
that
particular
slide
and
saw
a
slight
increase,
which
is
a
positive.
C
C
So
with
that
said
this
year
and
I
would
focus
on
this
year,
because
you
see
that
one
number
you'll
see
that
decline
again.
That's
occurred
since
1314
this
year.
We
project
that
we
will
essentially
embed
all
of
our
fund
balance
to
close
out
this
school
year,
plus
we're
going
to
find
ourselves
in
a
negative.
Now.
We've
also
got
to
realize
that
we're
in
what's
arguably
the
greatest
challenge
that
public
schools
in
North
Carolina
have
ever
seen.
That
may
be
true
of
Buncombe
County.
C
So
again,
we
just
can't
we're
so
anxious
to
see
the
Marines
hit
the
beach
or
the
cavalry
come
in
on
the
white
horses
with
those
federal
funds,
because
we're
going
to
be
highly
dependent
upon
them,
but
essentially
our
fund
balance
as
yours
is
there
for
emergency
purposes,
and
this
has
been
certainly
from
my
career
standpoint,
the
greatest
emergency
that
we've
seen.
So
those
are
two
areas
that
we
have
concerns
with,
and
I
also
want
to
say
that
coming
up
here
and
requesting
funds
for
next
year.
C
We
have
to
forward
fund
and
essentially
that's
what
has
been
a
tremendous
challenge
for
us
to
forward
fund
what
we
had
to
in
order
to
meet
the
challenges
of
this
viral
outbreak
and
again,
please
stop
me
and
ask
any
questions
that
you
that
you
have
is
as
I
proceed.
I'll
try
to
go
slow
enough
to
address
any
questions
on
the
spot.
C
C
Now,
what
I'm
here
to
request
it's
going
to
duplicate
the
area
of
funding
that
I've
requested
each
of
my
10
prior
years
of
Superintendent
nothing's,
really
changed.
This
is
the
basic.
This
isn't
anything
over
and
above
this
is
in
order
to
maintain,
and
that
particular
area
is
all
about
our
local
employees
and
salaries
and
benefits,
and
the
first
thing
I
would
emphasize
to
you
again
if
we
depended
upon
state
funding
and
federal
funding
to
cover
all
the
needs
that
we
have
for
our
employees
to
support
adequately
our
students
out
in
Buncombe
County
Schools.
C
We
would
fall
far
short,
so
20%
of
our
total
employees
in
our
school
system
are
locally
funded.
Where
do
those
local
funds
come
from?
Primarily
they
come
from
you
as
a
commission.
I
will
also
tell
you
and
I've
said
this
I
think
each
of
those
ten
years
I
can
proudly
stand
here
and
I
you're
proud
to
hear
that
across
this
state
your
reputation
is
solid
in
terms
of
supporting
our
school
system
with
those
local
funds
you're
one
of
the
top
and
so
I.
C
Thank
you
for
that
and
I
appreciate
that
now
again,
who
are
those
local
employees?
What
categories
do
they
fall
in?
Well,
the
first
categories
you
see,
there's
204
teaching
positions.
If
we
didn't
have
these
funds,
what
areas
would
an
impact?
We
could
see
a
decline
in
providing
arts.
We
would
see
a
sharp
decline
in
providing
physical
education
and
health,
in
essence,
anything
outside
of
the
core
areas
or
social
studies,
our
math,
our
language,
arts
and
our
sciences.
Those
areas
would
be
anything
beyond
that.
We
would
fall
short.
So
that's
one
area
for
local
employees.
C
C
With
our
numbers.
You'll
see
instructional
assistants,
that's
in
kindergarten
through
third,
that's
our
STEM
labs.
Some
of
you
have
actually
visited
those
I
walk
through
them
with
you.
It
also
includes
media
assistants
against
state
funds,
aren't
provided
for
those
particular
areas-
technicians,
administrative
specialists,
that's
our
technology,
where
we
have
been
these
these
past
three
months
without
our
technology,
people
and
I'm,
proud
to
say,
I
think
we
did
a
an
excellent
job
of
providing
on
the
spot,
the
type
of
virtual
instruction.
It
was
required
at
the
time
other
assistants
a
number
of
those
positions
there.
C
Those
33
positions,
are
behavioral
specialists
and
you've
heard
me
talk
in
the
years
past.
Quite
a
bit
about
social,
emotional,
behavioral,
health
and
the
behavioral
specialists
are
they've,
been
in
place
now
for
two
years
and
I
think
they're
considered
by
our
principals
and
our
teachers
as
absolutely
VIPs
out
there
to
help
us
address
some
of
the
needs
that
we're
seen,
especially
with
our
youngest
children,
starting
in
kindergarten,
the
assistant
principals,
again,
the
state
doesn't
provide
enough
funding
to
cover
the
needs
and
the
support
that
takes
place
out
in
our
schools
and
instructional
support.
C
That's
instructional
coaches
they've
been
in
place
for
about
seven
years
now
and
again,
they're
considered
VIPs.
They
go
in
classrooms.
They
work
side-by-side
with
teachers.
They
provide
professional
development
in
areas
of
curriculum
and
instruction
they're,
absolutely
valuable
and
a
lot
of
what
I'm
describing
I
think.
Dr.
short,
she
would
agree
because
they're
very
similar
functions
in
Asheville
City
Schools,
dr.
C
F
May
have
are,
you
may
have
said
this
on
the
instructional
assistants
that
typically,
what
we
refer
to
as
teacher
assistants,
the
and
I'm
particularly
interested
in
the
K
through
three.
You
know,
I've
been
a
an
advocate
of
that
over
the
years
and
making
sure
that
we
have
have
those
positions
there
do
you
know
the
the
the
total
number
of
teacher
assistants
that
are
used
in
K
through
three
and
conquer
County?
It's.
C
That's
that's
an
approximate
number.
We
have
a
range
in
a
row
and
it's
all
based
upon
again
the
the
size.
The
number
of
kindergarten
through
third
grade
classrooms
and
I
will
tell
you
that
another
factor
that's
going
to
impact.
All
of
us
is
the
reduction
in
class
size
k3
because
it
not
only
impacts
your
facility
because
you
may
have
to
add
additional
classrooms,
and
where
do
they
come
from
we're
fortunate
in
Buncombe
County,
because
we
have
intermediate
schools
and
one
of
the
benefits
of
intermediate?
Is
it
opened
up
space
back
at
the
elementary
levels?
C
So
so
those
that
that's
going
to
be
being
impact
on
us?
Because
if
you
add
another
classroom
k3,
we
have
we
made
a
decision
in
kindergarten
and
first-grade.
That
is
that's
mandatory,
we're
going
to
have
one
assistant
in
those
classrooms.
So
if
we
add
a
classroom,
we
add
that
that
assistants
State's
been
able
to
help
us
somewhat
with
that.
But
again
they
do
not
cover
their
funding
of
teacher
assistants
for
Buncombe
County.
Mr.
Belcher
covers
about
I'd,
say
about
65
to
70
percent.
C
We
cover
the
rest
with
our
local
and
again,
you've
been
in
those
classrooms
and
you've
heard
firsthand.
Those
are
those
are
most
valuable
people
in
those
classrooms
to
help
our
teachers,
the
managers
and
maintenance
maintenance.
That's
the
supervisors
that
work
in
the
various
areas,
whether
it's
HVAC,
plumbing
electrical
they're
licensed.
They
coordinate
the
work
teams
that
go
out
and
again
we're
so
proud
of
the
the
energy
cost
savings
that
we've
been
able
to
provide
through
that
maintenance
department
and
then
the
directors
and
supervisors.
C
That's
our
central
office
leadership
and
again
I
think
we
we
certainly
can
can
prove
that
we
are
highly
efficient
there.
You
know
I
want
to
make
this
personal
to
you,
because
when
we-
because
what
opens-
and
let
me
just
give
you
give
you
this
vision-
Oh
in
middle
school,
we
identified
two
teachers
of
the
years.
C
These
are
the
best
of
the
best
Caroline,
who
is
our
2020
Teacher
of
the
Year
and
then
bill
bill,
feste,
a
longtime
veteran
teacher
of
the
year
in
2008,
actually
Teacher
of
the
Year
for
the
for
the
county
Oh
in
middle
school,
both
of
them
teach
in
the
same
school
they're.
On
the
same
hallway,
well,
mr.
feste
is
paid
out
of
state
funds.
His
Ayers
is
paid
out
of
local
funds,
so
here's
what
happens
and
I
use
the
term
you've
heard
me
use
the
term
non-negotiable.
C
It's
non-negotiable
for
us,
because
it's
decided
by
the
state
when
the
decision
in
Raleigh
is
to
raise
salaries.
When
those
salaries
are
raised,
they
provide
funding
for
state
funded,
but
there
we
go.
Mr.
feste
gets
the
race.
We
have
a
local
funded
staff
person
on
the
same
hallway
again
best
of
the
best
teachers
of
the
year.
That
would
not
receive
that
without
your
generous
contribution
now
the
same
thing
with
benefits
again
non-negotiable
and
my
request
is
really
going
to
focus
this
year
on
benefits
the
cause
of
kovat
19.
C
We
anticipate
that
we're
not
going
to
be
coming
to
you
about
those
salaries.
Now
I
say
that
I'm
gonna,
preface
by
saying
we
might
have
to
come
back.
You
might
have
me
knocking
back
on
the
door,
but
we
anticipate
that
this
is
going
to
be
a
year
where
the
likelihood
of
those
salaries
and
certainly
aren't
as
great
as
they've
been
in
years
past
benefits
retirement
rate.
The
employers
cost
the
health
insurance
rates,
they've
gone
up
every
single
year
that
I've
been
superintendent.
C
This
is
my
11th
year,
so
every
single
year
we've
come
back
with
this
same
dilemma:
we
have
locally
funded
teachers,
20%
of
our
staff,
we've
got,
the
other
state
funded
state
fund
is
taken
care
of,
but
not
our
local,
and
we
believe
that
it's
an
this
issue
of
equity
that
they
deserve,
that
any
questions,
because
that's
that's
quite
a
key
for
us
and
and
again
these
these
are
the
standard
requests
that
come
in.
These
are
the
basic
requests.
C
Just
to
give
you
an
idea
of
what
that
looks
like
traditionally,
we
estimated
at
five
percent
increase-
that's
pretty
historical
over
the
years
and
for
that
again
local
employees,
if
that
five
percent
non-negotiable
raise
came
from
the
legislature,
that
represents
two
million
one
hundred
and
forty
three
thousand
eight
hundred
five
dollars
in
order
to
cover
those
local
employees
for
non
certified.
We
estimated
it
three
percent,
that's
pretty
standard,
the
three
percent
that
we've
seen
anything
from
really
from
one
to
three,
and
that
includes
FICA.
C
A
C
C
I'm
on
I'm
on
fast
track,
bottom-line
retirement,
health
insurance.
We
total
those
up
request
coming
to
you,
1
million
four
hundred,
ninety
thousand
six
hundred
seventy
six
dollars
that
covers
both
of
those
areas
and
that
covers
our
local
employees.
I
put
a
slide
in
here
and
you're.
Welcome
to
take
time
and
look
at
that
thoroughly
and
ask
questions
to
me
later.
Return
on
the
investment
I
talked
to
you
about
performance
grades.
C
I've
done
a
lot
of
that
in
the
past
its
eighty
percent
performance,
twenty
percent
growth-
we
think
that's
wrong-
we
threaten
grossed,
should
be
higher.
We
put
a
lot
of
work
in
those
four
schools
that
were
below
of
see
so
the
sad
part
about
it
is
we're
not
going
to
have
performance
grades
this
year
and
and
we
have
had
employees,
staff
that
have
worked
worked
and
work,
and
we
were
very
optimistic.
We're
also
proud
of
our
growth
I'll.
Let
you
look
at
those
again.
C
We
feel
extremely
extremely
proud
of
what
we've
seen
with
our
growth
and
I'm
going
to
leave
you
with
three
slides
I
want
to
leave
on
a
real
positive
note
and
I
want
to.
Thank
you,
especially
with
one
of
those
when
Kovac
19
hit
our
schools
closed
down
on
March
16,
we
talked
to
the
board
and
we
had
three
essential
goals.
These
are
the
three
things
we
got
to
do
number
one.
We
got
to
keep
meals
going
to
all
of
our
kids
and
our
families
that
need
them.
C
We
started
that
March
16th
did
not
miss
a
beat.
The
second
thing
is
we
said
that
we've
got
to
provide
instruction.
It's
got
to
continue.
We
provided
virtual
instruction.
We
sent
out
twelve
hundred
and
fifty
hot
spots.
I
know
mr.
Belcher
asked
me
a
question
regarding
how
do
we
connect
out
there
because
we
still
do
have
issues
ninety-three
percent
of
our
students
when
all
the
dust
cleared
had
that
ability
to
connect
on
the
internet?
We
are
one-to-one,
computers
got
home
within
two
days
and
boom.
C
C
We
are
able
to
make
250
face
shields
and
we're
starting
production
next
week,
because
we're
going
to
be
making
them
for
our
employees
we're
producing
that
we
did
it
through
our
3d
printers
brought
every
3d
printer
into
the
Buncombe
County
school
central
office,
and
we
had
assembly
line
there,
proud
of
that
and
that's
Laurel
Bates.
By
the
way
I
promised
her
I'd
recognize
her.
That's
our
office
manager
for
mr.
Huff
and
in
a
Family,
Resource
Center.
You've
heard
this
before
we
have
over
500
homeless,
students
and
families
in
Buncombe,
County
Schools.
That's
a
challenge.
C
We
also
have
some
very
high
at-risk
populations
again
March
16th
first
day
we
were
closed.
We
were
providing
lunch
and
breakfast
to
those
individuals,
and
we
were
also
identifying
this
high
at-risk
group
in
our
Family
Resource
Center,
and
we
delivered
since
since
the
end
of
April,
3462
meals
and
other
hygiene
type
projects,
we've
got
baby
diapers
going.
This
is
on
a
daily
basis,
we're
going
out
because
some
of
those
families
can't
get
to
our
sites
where
the
meals
are
being
provided.
It's
a
tremendous
service
and
then
finally,
I
don't
run
out
of
time.
C
Chairman
Newman
and
that's
our
school
nutrition,
tremendous
thanks,
Lisa
painting
our
staff
I,
don't
want
to
thank
the
commissioners.
This
is
your.
Thank
you.
It's
a
good
thing
for
me
to
end
on,
because
you
provided
that
extra
pay
incentive.
That's
the
only
way
we
were
truly
able
to
run
our
program
over
spring
break
and
since
March
16th
70s.
Now
seven
hundred
and
sixty
four
thousand
four
hundred
meals
I
didn't
even
get
the
current
date
current
number
and
that
would
be
higher
than
that.
C
A
A
G
G
We
want
to
share
with
you
also
how
we
are
spending
our
funds,
especially
our
supplemental
tax
dollars.
We
want
to
share
with
you
a
little
bit
about
this
year's
focus
and
then
our
ask-
and
there
are
four
ask
that
are
coming
from
Asheville
City
Schools-
just
to
give
you
an
idea
of
our
population.
We
have
4,400
students,
we
have
744
staff
members,
we
have
ten
schools
and
we
have
high
school
two
High
School's,
two
middle
schools
and
six
elementary
schools
in
looking
at
our
demographics.
G
G
So
we
continue
to
lose
that
population,
and
you
will
also
notice
that
there
are
ten
housing
communities
in
Asheville,
Buncombe,
County
and
Asheville
City
Schools
serves
nine
of
those
housing
commute
ease
community
33
percent
of
our
students
live
in
our
housing
communities
or
are
either
homeless,
students,
and
actually
the
number
is
probably
higher
than
33
percent,
because
sometimes
there
are
two
and
three
families
in
a
unit
in
the
housing.
Communities
want
to
share
just
a
little
bit
of
our
data,
the
performance
goals.
G
When
you
look
at
our
grades
for
the
last
year's
data,
all
of
our
schools
earned
a
C
or
better
as
a
performance
grade
and
from
2017-18
to
2018-19.
We
increased
from
44%
of
our
schools
to
66%
of
our
schools
meeting
or
exceeding
growth.
We
celebrate
these
increases.
We
do
a
good
job,
but
we
don't
do
a
good
job
for
all
of
our
students
all
the
time.
At
the
same
time,
we
look
at
our
growth.
G
We
would
like
to
share
with
you
some
of
the
specifics
of
how
we're
using
our
local
dollars
and
especially
looking
at
that
extra
supplemental
tax
dollar
figure
that
we
get
in
Asheville,
City,
Schools
that
we
are
privileged
to
receive
when
you
look
at
the
local
dollars
that
we
receive
it's
a
little
bit
different
from
Buncombe,
County
I,
think
because
of
the
supplemental
tax
dollars.
Actually
we
receive
about
ten
million
dollars.
Nine
point
nine
million
in
that
with
that
allotment
and
you
can
see
our
state
dollars
are
at
forty
percent,
our
local
dollars.
G
You
serve
us
so
well,
and
we
are
so
grateful.
Almost
35
percent
comes
from
local
funds.
How
do
we
spend
our
local
dollars
now?
This
is
not
how
we
spend
all
of
them,
but
it's
certainly
how
we
look
at
that.
Almost
10
million
dollars
of
supplemental
tax
money
almost
all
goes
to
personnel
were
just
as
Tony
was
saying
in
Buncombe
County
in
Asheville,
City
Schools.
We
have
a
hundred
and
three
local
teaching
positions.
That's
an
art,
music,
PE
digital
lead
teacher
at
every
school.
We
have
elementary
Spanish
program
k5,
we
have
instructional
facilitators.
G
Those
are
the
coaches
teacher
coaches
at
every
school.
We
also
have
smaller
class
sizes
because
of
the
teacher
pupil
ratio
in
our
K
3
s.
We
have
about
15
students
per
class,
4
&
5
about
18
students
per
class
and
middle
school
in
high
school.
We
have
about
an
average
of
20
in
our
classrooms.
Smaller
class
sizes
is
definitely
a
plus
for
us.
We
also
are
able
to
fund
41
teacher
assistants,
and
that
gives
us
a
teacher
assistant
in
every
K
2
classroom,
good.
G
G
Preschool
is
very
important
to
us
1.2
million
dollars
we
spend
in
11
preschool
classrooms
across
the
district
and
also
we
have
listed
2
other
sources
that
would
include
1.5
million
the
Buncombe
County
early
childhood
grant
is
a
part
of
that.
Again.
We
are
grateful
to
you
for
the
opportunities
that
our
children
have
exceptional
children's
program
about
$800,000.
We
have
not
had
an
increase
in
federal
funding
in
ec
funding
in
the
last
20
years.
A
rough
estimate,
the
state
does
historically
cover
any
increase
in
salary
and
benefits.
G
G
We
also
are
able
to
extend
our
summer
school
programs.
We
have
extra
tutors
but
of
the
local
dollars,
and
we
also
are
able
to
offer
a
summer
program
three
weeks
for
our
most
vulnerable
students
at
the
middle
school
and
that's
about
a
hundred
to
150
students
that
we
serve,
and
then
we
are
able
to
give
funds
to
our
schools
and
we
base
that
on
the
size
of
the
school
and
the
special
needs
of
the
school,
and
that
amounts
to
a
another
half
million
dollars
like
to
share.
G
Briefly
with
you
are
this,
this
year's
goals
and
our
focus.
We
would
like
to
spend
a
couple
of
minutes
looking
at
this.
We
have
spent
this
year
addressing
our
achievement
gap
in
a
very
systematic,
uniform
way.
We
have
aligned
our
work
and
our
spending
with
our
equity
focus
to
ensure
growth
of
all
of
our
students,
and
throughout
this
year
we
have
really
tried
to
prioritize
what
our
goals
are,
what
the
end
result
should
be
and
our
spending
to
match
our
goals.
Our
two
greatest
challenges.
G
G
Those
opportunity
gaps
include
such
items
as
affordable
housing,
a
decent
minimum
wage
having
food
on
the
table
and
in
a
piece
of
research
that
we
have
included
in
your
pack
in
95
out
of
100
metro
areas
across
this
nation.
These
same
factors
are
true
that
the
children
who
experience
these
negative
factors
experience
lack
of
opportunity
as
compared
to
the
white
population,
and
it
is
the
children
of
color.
Let
me
tell
you
how
that
looks
in
a
classroom.
G
We
have
children
who
come
to
us
who
eat
their
lunch,
maybe
at
11
o'clock
early
as
10:30,
and
they
do
not
get
another
meal
until
they
come
back
to
us.
The
next
morning
we
have
had
children
who
come
to
us
with
bed
bug
bites
all
over
their
bodies.
We
have
children
who
are
trying
to
do
their
homework,
no
one's
at
home
to
help
them
because
they
may
live
with
a
single-parent
mom.
G
She
may
have
two
or
three
jobs,
she's,
not
home
in
the
evenings
she
wishes
she
could
be,
but
she
has
to
put
food
on
the
table
and
then,
lastly,
in
this
community
and
I'm
talking
about
things
that
all
of
us
are
in
this
district
and
in
our
county
we
have
drive-by
shootings,
our
children
maybe
are
trying
to
sleep.
They
may
be
trying
to
do
their
homework
and
they
are
unsafe,
with
shootings
going
on
in
their
backyard
or
across
the
street.
G
So
all
of
these
are
cause
for
alarm
for
all
of
us,
especially
when
it
affects
a
third
of
our
school
population.
So,
as
we
look
at
our
challenges,
we
have
developed
very
specific
strategies
to
address
these
areas.
We've
had
an
initial
district-wide
group
setting
meeting
from
representatives
from
all
of
our
schools
early
in
August,
and
we
developed
the
long
term
goals
for
this
year
that
have
driven
our
work
and
our
purpose.
G
That
first
goal
is
to
focus
on
core
instruction,
and
all
that
really
means
is
how
we
teach
and
what
we
teach
and
using
data
to
see
who
got
it
and
who
didn't.
Our
second
goal
has
to
be
in
to
develop
a
comprehensive
social-emotional
framework
we
do
not
have
had
in
Asheville
City.
We
will
have
it
in
place
by
the
opening
of
the
school
year
and
are
well
on
our
way
right
now
to
that
being
ready
to
implement.
G
Our
third
goal
has
been
to
strengthen
our
own
lines
of
communication,
especially
between
the
central
office
and
our
schools,
and
our
emphasis
has
been
on
teamwork
and
everything
that
we
do
in
Asheville
City
Schools,
because
it
takes
every
one
of
us
in
looking
at
the
achievement
gap
and
the
opportunity
gap
to
accomplish
our
goals
and
goal.
Number
four
is
very
specific.
This
year
it
is
to
and
was
to
establish
an
after-school
program
at
every
elementary
school,
which
would
have
tutors,
which
would
have
a
snack
if
you
have
lunch
at
10:30
or
11:00.
G
We
have
also
been
able
to
have
reading
teachers
to
work
with
small
groups
of
students,
retired
teachers
that
we
brought
back
using
the
funds
that
you
have
given
us
from
third
through
fifth
grades,
to
give
small
group
instruction,
and
then
we
this
year
we
have
developed
an
equity
plan.
We
didn't
have
any
consultants.
G
This
was
all
homegrown
equity
work
from
all
of
the
representatives
of
our
schools,
focusing
on
what
we
know,
the
prior
knowledge
that
we
have
had
and
we
have
not
used
any
outside
consultants.
This
school
year
we
have
relied
on
our
own
expertise
on
our
own
foundation,
and
we
also
have
used
the
black
scholars
in
our
commune
to
God
our
work.
E
G
Gets
it
who
doesn't
and
how
do
we
reach
and
use
of
assessment
constantly
to
see
who
needs
some
reinforcements
with
skills?
There
are
two
other
important
things
that
we
have
been
able
to
do
instructionally
this
year
because
of
the
local
dollars,
and
that
is
number
one
to
purchase
a
new
math
program
for
our
k5,
all
of
our
elementary
schools.
You
know
how
expensive
a
math
program
is
k5
for
all
of
our
schools.
G
We
only
have
six
two
hundred
thousand
dollars,
so
we
negotiated
and
they
let
us
pay
a
hundred
thousand
this
year
and
a
hundred
thousand
next
year
and
we
prioritized
our
funding,
and
so
we
have
been
able
to
fund
that
we've
also
been
able
to
fund
a
new
reading
materials
for
fifth
grade
students
for
next
year
to
the
tune
of
forty
thousand
dollars
just
one
grade
level,
and
we
think
that's
going
to
make
a
real
difference
in
the
delivery
of
instruction
since
March
16th
the
day
school
closed.
Tony's
already
alluded
to
that.
G
We
have
been
presented
the
third
greatest
challenge
that
perhaps
the
greatest
challenge
that
we
will
face
in
this
century
in
terms
of
kovat
19.
Our
schools
were
closed
on
Monday,
the
16th.
We
had
a
teacher
work
day
and
the
second
day
we
were
ready
to
begin
at
home
learning
and
we
did
on
Tuesday
and
the
reason
we
were
able
to
do
that
again
is
because
of
local
dollars.
We
have
those
lead
digital
teachers
in
our
schools.
We
had
the
technology
needed,
our
kids
had
their
devices.
So
we
are
grateful
to
you
for
that.
G
A
little
bit
about
our
response
to
Cova
19.
We
are
serving
not
as
many
meals
as
Tony,
because
Buncombe
County
is
six
times
larger
than
we
are,
but
we
are
serving
1500
meals
a
day.
Up
to
this
point.
Yesterday
we
had
served
fifty-one
thousand
five
hundred
and
sixty
nine
mils.
We
start
our
summer
program,
June
the
1st
and
we
anticipate,
will
be
serving
90
thousand
meals
across
the
district.
G
Other
response
is
to
our
Cove
at
19.
Our
teachers
have
been
tremendous.
We
even
have
our
art
and
music
teachers
delivering
lessons
remotely.
So
we
are
so
proud
of
the
effort
that
has
gone
into
our
from
on
behalf
of
our
staff.
We
call
students
on
a
regular
basis.
We
have
everyone
in
the
district
calling
teacher
assistants,
teachers
SRO
officers,
everyone
to
check
on
kids,
especially
those.
We
know
that
may
not
be
as
actively
engaged.
G
This
last
slide
on
home
learning
shows
that
we
have
been
away
when
the
end
of
the
school
and
that
will
be
May
the
29th
in
Asheville
City
Schools.
We
have
our
children
have
been
away
from
direct
face-to-face
instruction
for
ten
weeks,
and
that
translates
into
two
hundred
and
eighty
two
hours
and
I
will
echo
what
Tony
said.
The
greatest
challenge
is
coming.
G
We
haven't
seen
the
greatest
challenge,
yet
the
greatest
challenge
is
going
to
be
in
getting
her
children
back
to
school,
because
we
have
to
social
distance,
we're
going
to
have
to
run
two
or
three
different
loads
of
busses
just
to
get
our
children
to
school.
How
do
you
keep
kindergartners
wearing
a
face
mask
all
day?
How
do
you
walk
into
a
classroom
and
check
all
the
temperatures?
So
the
challenge
is
yet
to
come.
Our
ask
and
I'm
going
to
be
real,
quick
with
our
ask.
G
G
The
second
request
is
what
Tony
alluded
to,
and
that
is
to
look
at
the
increased
retirement
and
hospitalization
cost
for
our
local
positions
and
that's
another
nine
hundred
and
seventy
three
thousand
dollars
the
last
two
requests
that
we
have
are
very
specific
to
Asheville
City
Schools.
This
year
we
had
a
salary
study
and
we
looked
at
the
positions.
G
You
see
there,
a
teacher
assistants,
custodians
maintenance,
if
you
will
probably
the
lowest
paid
salaries
when
you
compare
teacher
salaries
and
principal
salaries
and
the
total
cost
to
implement
this
salary
studied,
put
everyone
on
their
right
stamp
for
130
employees
is
four
hundred
and
seventy
three
thousand
dollars
now
we're
not
asking
for
the
heads
which
is
asking
for
phase
one
which
will
look
at
our
teacher
assistants
and
mr.
Belcher.
G
We
have
ninety
nine
teacher
assistants
in
Asheville
City
Schools,
and
we
would
like
to
give
them
credit
for
the
years
of
experience
that
they
have
had
look
what
a
teacher
assistant
makes-
and
this
is
not
just
a
Nashville,
City
Schools.
This
is
across
the
board.
Teacher
assistants
have
been
frozen
for
eight
years.
They
make
in
our
district
a
range
of
twenty
one
thousand
dollars
to
twenty
eight
thousand
dollars,
and
that
is
before
taxes.
G
How
can
we
expect
anyone
to
live
in
Asheville
when
you
make
twenty-one
thousand
dollars
a
year
again,
our
request
is
to
support
this
phase,
one
of
the
salary
study.
And
lastly,
this
is
an
easy
ask.
We
need
a
part-time
coordinator
for
our
after-school
programs.
Thirty-Five
thousand
dollars
to
coordinate
what
is
happening
to
make
sure
that
children
have
a
safe
place
to
be
in
the
afternoons
and
I
will
tell
you
also
if
we
don't
get
that
we're
going
to
ask
the
city
for
it
too,
so
we're
kind
of
hedging
our
bets
there.
G
The
last
slide
is
a
thank
you
for
everything
you
have
done
for
us.
We
are
tremendously
grateful
and
I
would
like
to
take
the
opportunity
to
introduce
to
you
the
new
Asheville
City
Schools
Superintendent
in
eight
days,
you're
going
to
have
a
new
superintendent.
Mr.
Freeman,
dr.
Jim
Freeman.
Would
you
just
stand
up?
I
won't!
G
Let
him
come
up
to
the
podium
because
he
talks
his
motion
as
fast
as
I
do
and
we
know
we
got
to
move
on,
but
he
is
going
to
be
outstanding
in
moving
our
district
forward
in
looking
at
assessment
and
instruction
and
making
things
better
for
kids
as
we
meet
them
on
a
day
to
day
basis.
So
thank
you
for
welcoming
him.
Thank
you
for
welcoming
me
today
and
for
listening
to
our
requests
and
mr.
Newman.
Thank
you
for
the
extra
time
I
appreciate
all.
A
D
The
preacher,
Bobby
and
I
can
say
this
because
we're
old
friends
thank
you
for
all
you've
done,
but
I'd
like
to
really
give
a
message
to
a
new
superintendent
who
I'm
looking
forward
to
working
with
the
chair
of
the
school
board
to
we've.
Had
you
three
times
Bobby
as
superintendent
and
I
noticed
something
each
time
you
left
what
little
progress
you
made
left
with.
You
I
hope
this
time
that
we
will
be
able
to
continue
and
be
alone,
the
good
work
that
you've
done.
Thank
you
thank.
J
K
K
K
K
We
have
decided
that
we
can
live
within
the
budget,
that
we
have
so
it'll
be
a
zero
increase
budget,
and
we
also
project
that
that
we
will
be
able
to
maintain
the
reserve
that
we
had
starting
the
year-
probably
maybe
a
little
bit
larger,
just
because
we've
seen
a
downturn
in
our
expenses
related
to
energy
expense.
Obviously,
you
can
see
overall
this.
The
total
revenue
that
we
were
working
on
this
year
was
seven
almost
7.1
million
dollars,
and
you
can
see
that
5,000.
K
K
Also
because
of
artifice
Ault
of
article
46
and
your
generosity.
We've
been
able
to
we're
in
the
process
of
switching
out
7,000
lamp
fixtures
on
our
Victoria
Road
campus
and
switching
them
out
with
LEDs,
and
that
is
projected
to
save
us
about
ninety
thousand
dollars
a
year.
Based
on
the
preliminary
study
that
was
done
by
Landis
Kai
and
the
folks
out
there.
The
energy
management
module
that
we
are
implementing
as
we
go
through
with
our
ongoing
schedule
of
capital,
repairs
and
replacement.
K
K
In
this
past
year
we
did
a
thorough
audit
and
employed
a
company
to
come
in
and
identify
savings
there,
where
there
were
lines
trunks
that
were
not
being
used,
no
cell
phones
not
being
used.
We
identified
approximately
$25,000
of
savings
that
we'll
be
moving
forward
as
a
savings
in
the
budget.
So
all
of
these
convince
us
that
we
are
be
able
to
live
with
what
we've
been
given
and
we're
so
grateful
for
that
and
look.
K
K
Yes,
since
February
first,
our
interim
president
has
been
dr.,
Joseph
Barwick
and
he
has
been
with
us
throughout
this.
He
came.
You
came
right
as
the
coronavirus
started,
taking
off
and
said,
he's
been
leading
us
through
that
admirably
and
he's
been
a
real
with
his
experience
as
a
college
president
for
10
years
at
car
wreck
yeah.
He
he
has
the
maturity
and
obviously
he
has
the
maturity.
A
Have
one
question
and
I'm
sure
there
could
be
a
real
I'm
sure
you
could
probably
talk
about
this
for
an
hour,
but
just
in
maybe
a
real
short
version.
You
know
with
the
obviously
we
know
a
lot
of
educational
activities
have
been
disrupted,
shutdown
done
differently
and
there's
we're
still
gonna
be
working
through
some
of
that.
A
K
We
we
anticipate
that
that
will
be
the
case
ultimately
and
in
our
summer,
school
I
believe
what
our
numbers
have
held
up
very
well,
even
though
by
large
were
remote
learning.
So
we
anticipated
that
yes,
indeed,
there
will
be
an
increase
and
that's
why
we're
reluctant
to
cut
back
on
things
too
much,
because
we
think
at
some
point
we
will
be
filling
our
facilities
again.
The
question
I
think
is
the
mode
of
delivery.
You
know.
K
A
Thank
you
any
other
questions,
commissioners,
all
right.
Thank
you
very
much
and
again,
thank
you
for
your
service
as
well.
Dr.
Barwick.
We
appreciate
it
very
much
all
right.
That
concludes
our
three
presentations
from
our
education
partners,
and
so
next
step
on
our
agenda
is
going
to
be
the
federal
home
and
community
care.
Block
Grant
item
and
stony
Blevins
will
be
helping
us
out
on
this
one.
M
So
I
wanted
to
come
and
talk
to
you
today
about
the
pre
meeting
about
the
home
and
community
care,
Block
Grant
funding
for
the
county
and
some
recommendations
that
we
would
like
to
make
this
year.
That
may
be
just
a
little
bit
different
than
years
past.
We've
really
done
a
deep
dive
into
this
and
looked
at
how
we've
been
administering
it,
I've
been
working
with
our
aging
partners
about
maybe
the
most
effective
and
efficient
way
to
administer
it
and
when
to
bring
those
recommendations
to
you
at
the
next
Commissioners
meeting.
M
Max,
okay,
so
the
home
and
community
care
Block
Grant
are
really
aging
funds.
It's
part
of
our
funding
strategy
in
the
county
to
fund
Aging
providers
across
the
community.
All
the
services
that
are
provided
by
these
agencies
are
for
citizens
aged
60
and
older.
To
allocations
for
these
funds
this
year
was
projected
to
be
one
point:
five,
zero,
six
one.
Ninety
two,
the
actual
state
allocation
just
came
in
today,
and
the
amount
is
right
at
1
million,
five
hundred
and
one
thousand
one
hundred
thirty
two
dollars.
M
If
my
memory
serves
me
right,
so
we
will
have
to
adjust
our
allocation
strategy
just
a
little
bit
before
we
come
to
you
in
a
couple
of
weeks.
One
thing
about
this
is
the
be
OCC
has
responsibilities
outlined
in
the
state
policy
regarding
these
funds
and
it's
really
a
couple
of
things.
So
one
is
every
year
the
commissioners
must
designate
a
lead
agency
for
these
funds,
and
the
purpose
of
that
lead
agency
is
to
be
responsible
for
the
planning
of
how
the
funds
will
be
spent.
M
Who
will
receive
the
funds
and
then
we
bring,
and
then
that
group
brings
you
the
funding
plan.
Each
year
we
also
need
the
commissioners
to
serve
as
a
block
grant
a
committee
that
is,
a
block
grant
Advisory
Committee.
We
have
historically
called
this
the
allocations
committee
in
Buncombe
County,
because
their
primary
purpose
is
to
receive
the
applications
from
the
various
service
providers
across
the
community.
Look
at
the
policy
and
then
determine
the
best
use
of
these
federal
funds
to
meet
our
community
needs,
as
outlined
in
our
aging
plan.
M
Then
this
committee
submits
the
funding
plan
to
the
area,
a
joint
agency.
We
enter
to
a
grant
agreement
and
also
ones
you
know
in
addition
to
these
federal
funds,
as
you
well
know,
we
also
provide
an
additional
half
a
million
dollars
to
support
these
same
agencies
in
County
dollars
to
expand
our
reach
and
go
further
into
the
aging
community
for
a
total
of
just
over
two
million
dollars.
M
They've
done
a
fine
job
of
it,
but
in
talking
to
them
a
couple
of
things,
we've
looked
at,
we've
always
been
in
a
supportive
role,
we've
always
set
on
the
allocations
committee
and
we
really
had
land
of
sky
to
a
point
that
that
Advisory
Committee,
we
did
not
bring
that
back
before
the
commissioners
as
a
part
of
that
contract.
We've
done
some
research
we've
had
our
County
legal
to
look
into
it
and
while
we
can't
go
back,
we
discovered
that
actually,
it
is
still
the
role
of
the
commissioners
to
appoint
that
committee.
M
Whether
another
agency
serves
as
lead
agency
or
not
so
as
we
move
forward
for
recommendations,
we're
really
asking
that
this
year
you
appoint
Buncombe
County
HHS
to
serve
as
the
lead
agency,
and
we
have
several
reasons
for
that
one
and
looking
at
our
budget
this
year,
we
really
did
a
deep
dive.
We've
been
doing
it
honestly
ever
since
I
got
here
to
ask
ourselves:
are
there
places
where
we
contract
for
a
service
that
we
could
possibly
do
ourselves,
but
without
adding
any
FTEs?
Could
we
absorb
some
of
our
contract
services
into
our
existing
structure?
M
Out
of
savings
to
the
county,
this
was
one
place
we
felt
we
could
do
this,
but
we've
also
been
planning
this
for
really
for
a
year
with
land
of
sky
who
serves
as
our
aging
on
agency,
and
they
actually
support
this
move.
They
don't
really
do
this
for
other
counties
in
our
service
region
and
they
would
actually
support
Buncombe
County
taking
on
the
lead
agency.
So
our
first
reason
was
because
we
felt
like
was
a
better
return
on
investment
of
taxpayer
dollars.
That's
$30,000!
We
can
use
somewhere
else.
M
The
second
thing
is
our
partner
wants
us
to
do
this.
We
also
need
to.
It
also
brings
some
consistency
in
our
County
dollars,
because
this
is
one
of
the
few
areas
where
we
would
actually
contract
with
a
third
party
to
determine
how
we
use
our
County
dollars,
and
so
this
would
move
the
500,000
and
County
dollars
under
county
administration
at
HHS,
and
we
would
run
it
just
like
we
run
all
of
our
other
County
contracts,
including
our
RFP
process,
contract
oversight
and
those
type
of
things.
I
do
want
to
say.
M
As
a
point
of
fact,
though,
we
are
not
doing
this
because
Landis
guy
has
not
done
a
good
job
because
they
have
done
a
wonderful
job
and
they've
really
gone
beyond
the
scope
of
their
work
to
serve
us
and
I
want
to
make
sure
we
make
that
point
clear.
So
that's
one
request.
We
would
bring
before
you
on
June,
2nd
as
to
appoint
HHS
as
the
lead
agency.
M
The
HC
CBG
Advisory
Committee
for
state
fiscal
year
21,
and
that
committee
has
actually
gotten
somewhat
small
and
we
want
to
make
a
proposal
to
expand
it
a
bit
to
make
sure
that
we
have
adequate
representation
across
the
aging
community,
including
member.
You
know
persons
in
that
age
group,
so
we'll
bring
you
a
recommendation
in
July.
Should
you
appoint
us
as
the
lead
agency
so
now
I
open
up
for
questions?
M
I
also
have
Jen
T
with
me
and
I'd
like
for
you
to
meet
Jen
there
Jenna's,
our
our
adult
and
aging
manager,
we've
been
with
us
just
a
few
months
now
has
a
long
background.
In
aging,
services
has
served
in
Ashe
County,
and
that
role
was
also
the
Council
on
Aging
director
here
in
Buncombe,
before
we
persuade
her
to
come
over
and
work
for
the
county,
so
she's
doing
a
lot
of
fantastic
work
and
she
would
actually
be
the
leader
of
these
services
if
the
county
takes
back
over
this
role.
E
A
N
N
The
goal
with
that
closure
was
to
ensure
safety
for
our
employees
and
essentially
limit
the
face-to-face
interaction
with
citizens
and
other
employees.
So
you'll
see
on
the
screen
just
a
few
of
the
bullets
explaining
what
we
did
to
limit
that
interaction.
We
did
have
some
departments
such
as
Parks
and
Rec
in
the
library
who
are
impacted
more
in
terms
of
the
services
that
they
could
provide,
but
we
did
reassign
some
of
those
employees
to
other
needs
within
the
county.
N
N
Some
of
these
will
be
phased
approach
to
ensure
that
we
have
the
comfort
level
from
citizens
and
also
from
employees
to
move
forward.
We
don't
have
a
date
set
for
when
we
will
open
the
facilities
back
open
to
the
public,
but
we're
working
on
implementing
these
specific
actions
before
we
can
do
that.
So
some
of
these
are
include
installing
Plexiglas
and
our
public
facing
counters
and
putting
signage
up
in
our
lobbies
to
provide
guidance
to
citizens
floor
markings
to
ensure
social
distancing,
additional
facility
cleaning
and
we've
also
provided
additional
supplies
to
staff.
N
We
will
be
providing
face
coverings
to
the
public
and
we
just
roll
it
out
today,
a
daily
screening
tool
for
employees
and
also
demobilization
guidance
for
staff,
so
those
who
were
reassigned
will
be
coming
back
to
their
home
departments
and,
of
course,
an
emergency
incident
telecommuting
policy.
So
we
can
allow
those
folks
to
continue
to
telecommute,
and
these
guidelines
will
be
coinciding
with
the
governor's
guidance
around
safety
and
social
distancing,
and
that's
it.
If
you
have
any
questions,
let
me
know.
O
Good
afternoon,
commissioners,
there's
a
presentation
we'll
use
for
today's
discussion
max
if
we
could
bring
that
up.
That'd
be
great
good
deal.
So,
as
is
customary
with
pre-meeting
we're
giving
you
an
update
on
an
issue
that
you
may
not
have
information
on
previously,
but
I
would
plan
to
bring
it
back
to
before
the
board
at
our
second
meeting
in
June.
O
As
part
of
the
county's
economic
development
agreement
with
GE
Aviation,
the
county
agreed
to
construct
a
facility
at
5:02,
sweet
and
Creek.
That
GE
would
lease
from
the
county
for
a
period
of
19
years
and
there's
a
formal
lease
agreement.
The
documents
that
I'm
additionally
separately,
there
is
a
facility
in
that
same
industrial
park.
That
GE
also
also
maintains
that's
their
facility,
though,
and
I'll
show
you
a
map
here
in
a
second
the
road.
So
you
know
as
we
come
off,
Sweetin
Creek
and
you
take
a
left
and
you
go
on
the
industrial
park.
O
Road
there's
also
a
spur
Road,
which
is
how
you
get
to
our
county
land
and
that
GE
facility,
and
so
that's
the
piece
of
Road
we're
going
to
talk
about
today.
That
piece
of
land
you
know
is
in
question
and
so
we'll
walk
that
through
since
2013
that
road
has
deteriorated
from
normal
wear
and
tear
just
run
off
things
like
that.
O
So,
in
terms
of
the
property
layout,
just
a
quick
aerial-
you
can
see
there's
two
GE
facilities
on
the
right
side,
so
GE
aviation
number
one
that's
at
the
bottom
center.
So
that's
the
existing
facility
owned
by
GE,
not
of
interest
to
us
today,
but
wanted
to
orient
you
on
the
right.
You
see
the
second
facility.
This
is
the
facility
constructed
in
and
around
2013.
O
This
is
a
county-owned
facility
and
land
that
is
leased
to
GE
for
a
19
year
term.
You
can
see
with
the
yellow
dots
I've
identified,
the
city,
access
from
the
city
Road,
which
is
sweet
and
Creek
industrial
park
Drive,
and
then
I've
also
highlighted
in
the
red
dots
the
access
road
that
is
currently
deteriorating,
and
so
that's
the
road
we
want
to
talk
about
today.
O
This
road
had
been
in
place
for
a
number
of
years
prior
to
GE
when
it
was
used
by
Old
Dominion,
but
the
assignment
of
the
property
is
sort
of
what's
in
question,
shifting
gears
to
give
you
an
idea.
So
why
are
we
even
talking
about
this?
If
you
look
on
the
left
side,
this
is
a
picture
from
April
14th
of
2020,
and
you
can
see
there's
an
issue.
There's
no
curbing
the
side
of
this
road
is
basically
just
falling
off
into
a
ravine.
O
O
Needless
to
say,
right
have
you
checked,
did
this
after
that's
technical
terminology,
so
so
with
that
said,
so
you
know
as
landlord
and
as
a
good
partner
to
GE.
We
want
to
bring
this
before
the
board
to
see.
If
we
can
get
some
resolution,
the
road
has
not
become
an
Operations
issue
yet
so
we're
still
in
front
of
this
I
don't
want
to
draw
too
much
attention
to
this,
but
I
wanted
you
to
be
aware
of
it.
O
E
O
Do
have
a
right
away
to
that
road,
so
you
know,
as
we
talk
about
who
owns
the
land
so
who
owns
land
first
bullet
says
it
do
t
owns
the
land.
However,
in
the
year
2014
do
t.
Well,
the
city
passed
city
of
Asheville
passed
two
resolutions
to
accept
both
parcels
into
the
city's
system.
Both
resolutions
are
signed
there
in
the
appendix
I
can
show
them
to
you.
If
you'd
like
to
see
him,
however,
the
the
deed
work
was
never
completed.
To
formally
accept
that
property
at
into
the
city
of
Asheville.
O
So
and
that's
the
third
bullet,
so
the
proposed
conveyance
has
never
occurred.
A
complete
property
transfer
from
do
T
to
Co,
although
we
do
have
two
resolutions
that
indicate
that
was
the
plan
as
we
shift
to
the
top
who
owns
the
facility.
We
know
that
that
is
Buncombe
County
and
from
Buncombe
County
GE
leases
that
property
for
a
period
of
19
years
and
there's.
O
You
know
additional
clauses
to
extend
that
if
possible,
but
no
need
to
discuss
that
today.
So
then
the
natural
question
is,
if
we
own
the
property
and
releasing
it,
what
are
the
county's
obligations
as
the
lease
holder
as
the
landlord?
If
you
will-
and
so
the
first
bullet
is
pretty
explicit-
it's
to
maintain
the
envelope
of
the
building
the
walls,
the
roof.
O
It
is
to
maintain
any
County
property.
You
know
so
the
grounds
would
apply.
However,
the
road
itself
is
not
actually
a
part
of
the
county's
own
property,
so
that
puts
us
in
a
little
bit
of
a
situation
where
clearly
we
see
an
obligation
as
the
landlord,
but
not
a
technical
obligation,
because
it's
not
literally
in
our
land
third
bullet
is
you
know,
by
statute
county
governments
generally
do
not
build,
maintain
or
repair
roads.
It's
not
what
we
do.
O
So
that's
why
we
bring
the
issue
to
you.
As
I've
said,
we've
been
in
discussions
with
the
city
of
Asheville,
do
tge
to
talk
about
this,
and
we
have
a
proposed
resolution
and
so
I'm
not
asking
for
a
vote
today
on
this.
Just
to
give
you
some
background,
so
Buncombe
County
proposes-
and
we've
discussed
this
with
the
city
of
Asheville-
do
TN
ge
and
they
agree
pending
their
board's
respective
board's
approval.
O
What
would
the
timeline
be?
And
that's
something
we'd
like
to
bring
to
you
at
our
next
meeting
in
June,
and
so
the
next
steps
are
to
complete
initial
design
for
the
long-term
solution.
We
would
do
this
by
the
end
of
this
week
and
this
is
being
led
by
our
County
team,
which
is
Mike
Mays
General
Services.
We
would
then
go
through
an
informal
bidding
process.
We
hope
to
be
concluded
by
June
5th.
O
We
would
then
come
before
the
board
on
or
around
June
16th,
so
the
second
meeting
in
June
with
a
proposal
which
would
include
the
alternatives
we
looked
at,
as
well
as
an
agreement
to
move
forward
to
implement
the
solution.
The
final
bullet
is
to
select
the
contractor
coordinate
with
the
city
of
Asheville
immobilized
by
626.
So,
as
stated
before,
we
would
do
this
in
conjunction
with
the
city
of
Asheville.
That
way
the
road
is
repaired
to
their
standards
so
that
they
can
accept
it
and
maintain
it
long
term.
O
F
Not
saying
that
we
shouldn't,
you
know,
do
it
I'm,
just
wondering
you
know
what
was
Gees
position
and
you
know
why
haven't
they
worked
on
the
road
or
was
just
curious
on
that
and
number
one
and
two,
the
the
delaying
still
belongs
to
the
d-o-t
right,
that's
correct,
because
the
city's
never
transferred
and
having
idea
why,
and
why
would
we
expect
them
to
do
it?
You
know
now.
O
F
And
I'm,
assuming
we
would
have
a
hold
whatever
would
be
called
a
hold
harmless
from
GE,
and
you
know
so
to
hold
the
city
accountable
for
that
road
so
that
they
wouldn't
be
coming
back
to
us.
If
we
fix
the
road
and
then
we
turn
it
over
to
the
city
and
we're
done
correct,
that's
the
goal,
but
right
so.
P
P
We
had
been
working
with
them
to
make
sure
that
we
bill
it
to
their
standard,
but
the
expectation-
and
they
have
agreed
as
a
staff
level,
that
if
we
build
it
to
their
roads
and
we
followed
it,
the
same
process
of
a
developer
would
follow
to
put
a
road
into
their
system
because
it's
built
to
their
standard
on
with
their
work.
We
would
expect
that
they
would
accept
it
at
this
point.
Ge
doesn't
have
any
responsibility
to
fix
that
road.
P
It
is
the
county's
land
at
80,
bucks
too
sure,
and
it
based
on
our
economic
development
agreement
with
GE.
We
would
maintain
the
facility
we
have
maintained
the
grounds.
There
was
no
word
in
there
that
says
the
road,
but
to
access
their
property.
They
need
that
spur
road.
So
I
think
that's
why
we're
here
today
and
de
Ooty
doesn't
really
have
in
their
mind.
They
deeded
it
over.
It
was
never
completed
on
our
end
of
the
city's
in
but
as
far
as
Duty
is
concerned,
they
gave
us
the
easement
and
they're.
F
F
Mean
I
would
think
we
would
I,
don't
think
we'd
want
to
do
it,
but
it
does
concern
me
that
I
mean
that
it's
never
been
put
over
in
the
city's
name.
So
you
know
we'd
have
to.
We
have
to
make
sure
of
all
that
before
we
even
consider
the
absolutely
I
mean.
Oh,
that's
got
to
go
down
at
the
same
time.
I
guess
absolutely.
O
F
H
Q
Tim
Krantz
the
question:
please,
on
the
picture,
these
yellow
arrows
and
red
lines.
Was
that
put
there
because
of
they're
trying
to
test
this
see
how
quick
this
road
is
caving
in
or
is
there
some
type
of
utilities
that
are
running
under
this
road?
And
so
that's
what
that's?
What
could
have
caused
this
they're
at
the
utilities
that
was
put
in
or
it
looks
like
he's
going
into
a
ditch
and
there's
a
pipe
sticking
up
right
here?
You're.
O
O
O
We
expect
it,
you
know,
because
the
the
question
we
get
into
is
a
short-term
versus
a
long-term
fix.
You
know:
do
we
just
drop
some
riprap
down
there
and
see
if
that'll
hold
it
up
for
the
foreseeable,
so
we're
looking
at
both
options
to
see
what
the
best
option
is
to
maintain
it.
It
is
a
very
steep
ravine
and
there's
a
significant
amount
of
runoff
as
well.
That
comes
from
the
parking
lots
around
there.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
a
longer-term
solution
but
I
do
not
have
a
price
for
you.
I'm.
Sorry.
R
O
I've
been
given
some
very
rough
numbers,
but
I'm
very
hesitant
to
share
them
with
you,
because
it's
not
based
on
any
it
was
someone
you
know
guessing.
This
is
what
I
think
it
would
cost
not
based
on
an
engineering
or
design,
but
we
will
definitely
share
that
information
with
you
and
we
would
come
back
before
the
board.
P
F
E
L
R
Q
O
E
Q
This
is
years
of
tractor
and
trailers,
leaving
there
loaded.
So
is
there
any
way
to
make
sure
that
two
years
from
now,
we
don't
have
another
part
of
that
road
caving
in
somewhere
without
without
me,
can
somebody
say:
look
you
know
if
you're
going
to
come
in
and
fix
this
part
that
is
caving
in
and
if
you
don't
do
something
else
over
here,
you're
gonna
come
back
two
years
from
now.
H
Just
I
don't
think
it's
been
mentioned,
but
one
thing
to
recognize
this:
it
won't
show
on
that
red
rectangle,
but
if
you're
standing
where
the
slope
is
failing
and
look
about
four
or
five
hundred
feet
in
of
the
facility,
it
has
curb
and
gutter.
This
one
point
is
approximately
twenty
or
thirty
feet,
long
with
no
curb
and
that's
where
it's.
Q
R
H
F
It's
built
on
feel
or
a
combination
on
land,
it's
probably
built
on
field.
You
know
so
we're
dealing
with
that
too,
but
I
don't
want
to
get
in
the
weeds
on
that,
because
I'm,
not
a
I'm,
not
a
road
builder.
That's
from
what
I
remember
of
the
location,
there's
probably
a
lot
of
field
over
there.
That's
right!
Well,.
R
It
looks
I
mean
just
looking
at
picture
to
me.
It
looks
me
like
that.
Maybe
they
took
the
curb
and
gutter
out
when
utilities
come
through
there
and
that's
something
else,
I'd
like
to
look
at.
Did
you
tell
if
these
go
and
bore
under
there
and
not
put
it
back
to
what
it
needed?
I,
don't
think.
As
commissioner
pennilyn
said,
it's
not
actually
where
the
tractor
trailers
go
in
and
out,
the
road
is
actually
in
pretty
good
shape.
R
O
A
A
You
know
hopefully,
will
be
built
well
and
last
a
long
time,
but
when
it
needs
to
be
maintained
in
the
future,
they'll
have
to
be
responsible
for
that
and
they
don't
have
to
do
that.
So
I
think
it's
it's.
It
speaks
well
to
Asheville
for
accepting
the
long-term
maintenance
responsibilities
of
this
as
part
of
the
city
street
system,
but
I
don't
see
that
they
have
an
obligation
to
pay
for
fixing
it
right
now.
So.
E
S
N
S
S
And
so
what
you
can
see-
or
we
know
we
talked
about
last
time-
we
were
here
about
the
trends
and
so
testing
is
definitely
continues
to
increase.
A
lot
of
that
is
due
to
you
know
some
of
the
community
testing
we've
done,
but
also
the
long
term
care
facility
outbreaks.
Where
we've
been
doing
a
lot
of
testing
contact,
tracing
capacity,
we're
good
and
we
will
be
able
to
starting
next
week,
get
support
from
the
community
care
of
North
Carolina
staff.
S
S
And
I'll
speak
to
also
just
on
there.
Just
in
case
somebody
had
a
question
about.
There
are
some
unknowns
now
and
the
race
and
ethnicity
and
gender,
and
that's
just
trying
to
get
that
information
from
the
long-term
care
facilities
and
trying
to
get
that
entered
in
its.
You
can
imagine
it's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
balls
in
the
air
and
staff
trying
to
get
that
information
from
a
facility,
that's
in
the
throes
of
managing
an
outbreak
and
then
get
it
entered
into
the
spreadsheet
from
which
the
dashboard
is
created.
S
While
I'm
waiting
for
that
to
come
up,
I
would
say
in
terms
of
the
there
we
go
so
just
as
I
said
so
we're
right
around
4,000
tests
administered
and
what
I
would
say
is
actually
again
just
with
logistics
of
getting
information
from
the
long-term
care
facilities
as
we're
doing
that
testing
I'm,
actually
thinking
that
that
that
number
is
probably
closer
to
like
almost
a
thousand
times
more,
because
we
did
a
thousand
tests
just
within
one.
The
first
week
at
long-term
care
facilities
and
they've
already
started
like
their
second
round
of
testing.
S
So
I'd
say
yeah,
we're
I
think
he
can
go
to
the
next
aisle.
It's
me
now
sorry
I'm,
switching
over
well
I,
guess
I'll,
say
in
terms
of
cases
yeah.
Definitely
our
case
count
has
jumped
up
not
just
related
to
long-term
care
facilities,
though
there
is
definitely
other.
There
are
other
community
spread
happening
and
it's
really
linked
to
places
where
people
congregate
together
in
close
settings.
So.
S
S
F
U
F
F
S
It's
household
clusters
right,
so
many
of
our
cases
recently,
you
know,
live
in
large
households
right
and
so
we
know
that
your
biggest
risk
is
where
you're
in
most
direct
close
contact.
So
households
are
huge
right
and
then
so
that's
really
driving
our
case
count
up
and
then
yeah
the
situations
with
funeral
funeral
settings.
A
E
A
People
are
really
trying
to
do
social
distancing,
not
go
out
much.
Maybe
people
who
really
really
don't
have
to
go
out
much
if
they
did
go
to
something
it
might
be
pretty.
Obviously,
that's
probably
where
you
got
it
cuz
you
otherwise
has
been
completely
by
yourself
by
yourself
it
for
most
of
us.
There's
some
level
of
you
know
interaction
with
people
that
you
just
can't
avoid.
So
is
it?
Is
it
I,
don't
know?
How
often
do
we
are
we
able
to
kind
of
with
confidence
discern
here's
probably
pretty.
E
S
And
then
we
see
network,
you
know
families
out
of
that
yeah,
that's
what
contact
tracing
is
all
about,
and
so
it's
an
early
on
it
was
like.
Oh,
this
person
went
on
a
cruise
and
oh
this
person's
from
New
York
or
came
from
New
York,
like
pretty
often
we
were
able
to
figure
out
now.
It's
like
traking
tracing
it
all
the
way
back
to.
A
F
You
know
and
I
guess
my
question
I
think
the
Chairman's
summarized
it.
You
know
pretty
goods
is
that,
specifically
in
Buncombe
County,
if
there
are
places
or
events
that
we're
concerned
about
I,
think
people
are
not
interested
in
getting
their
news
from
other
places,
they'd
like
to
know
what's
going
on
here
and
how
they
can
be
safe
here
and
I.
F
Certainly
don't
want
to
get
it
off
Facebook
some
of
the
other
places
which
are
scaring
people
absolutely
their
death.
They
need
to
have
good
common
sense,
good
facts
and
numbers,
and
so,
if
funerals
are
an
issue,
then
you
know
we
need.
We
need
to
know
that
I
get
that
the
more
you
congregate
together
that
the
risk
goes
up.
F
R
S
Saying
if
the
households
of
the
size
of
like
five
and
six
I
mean
I'm
just
being
honest,
like
any
any
group
of
people,
that's
and
I
get
it,
but
it
doesn't
take
I
mean
ten
has
become
this.
You
know
was
this
chosen
as
this
number
but
I
don't
really
know,
what's
safe
about
ten,
if
they're,
especially
if
it's
people
who
aren't
in
your
immediate
household
right,
I'm,
just
being
honest,
yeah.
R
S
S
10
people
spread
out
right
and
that's
one
thing,
but
it's
10
people,
maybe
not
maintaining
the
social
distancing
right.
That's
the
big,
the
the
physical
distancing
that
not
wearing
face
coverings.
That
kind
of
stuff
I.
Don't
that's
the
part
right.
You
can
have
10
people,
but
if
they're,
following
all
that
other
guidance,
the
risk
is
very
much
lower.
It's
it's
more
about
what
are
you
doing
in
that
group
of
ten
people
or
five
people
or
whatever,
right
and.
R
All
I'm
doing
is
speaking
for
a
two
hundred
thousand
people
here
in
Buncombe
County.
As
this
close
quarters
and
we're
saying
large
households
being
their
homes.
Have
we
got
any
data
on
the
hardware
stores?
And
you
know
the
hardware
stores
I'm
talking
about
I,
don't
want
to
mention
how
many
of
them
have
passed
it
on
in.
S
S
T
R
S
Hardware
stores,
I
think
it's
still
like
I,
see
still
see
tons
of
people
out
there
without
their
clothes
faith
coverings,
while
they're
out
and
about
I
mean
like
just
leaving
work
at
Leon
Friday
night
I
saw
so
many
people
downtown,
maybe
not
a
lot
of
people
downtown,
but
the
people
I
saw
none
of
them
had
caught
face
coverings.
None
of
them.
E
E
F
F
F
You
know
that
I
just
think
that
if
there's
some
areas
in
Buncombe,
where
there's
still
concerns,
unfortunately,
and
fortunately
after
we
made
the
decision
to
align
the
funeral
homes
the
next,
it's
like
three
days
after
that
I
think
I
went
to
a
funeral
first
time.
My
neighbor's
father
unexpectedly
died.
The
funeral
home
was
amazing.
F
They've
done
just
an
incredible
job.
The
people,
where
we're
doing
their
best
to
practice
social
distancing
I,
will
go
on
the
record.
There
was
some
there
is
a
few
few
hugs
going
on,
but
that's
that
has
those
things
during
certain
times
have
to
happen
because
the
they
just
it's
just
part
of
life,
you
can't
you
can't
stop
it,
but
if
there
are
areas
where
we
are
seeing
concentrations
that
we
can
tell
people
specifically,
you
know
other
than
just
keep
me
around
ten
people
and,
like
you
said,
I,
don't
know
where
that
number
comes.
F
S
I,
just
get
worried
like
I
think,
is
we're
coming
up
on
Memorial,
Day,
right
and
so
I.
What
do
people
like
to
do?
Well,
Memorial,
Day,
cookouts
and
so
I,
just
I
think
we're
all
a
little
on
our
you
know.
A
little
uneasy
again
just
want
people
to
recognize
that,
because
I've
read
things
in
the
paper,
you
know
people
are
like.
S
Oh,
it's
just
people
in
long-term
care
facilities
who
are
dying
from
this
and
that's
not
true,
and
they
got
to
get
it
from
somewhere
right
like
we're
all
in
this
we're
all
connected
we're
all
part
of
this
and
I
just
want
people
to
recognize
that.
Well,
you
think
you
aren't
at
risk
like
you
may
get
it
pass
it
on
to
somebody
else.
You
pass
this
on
to
somebody
else
who
then
leads
to
an
outbreak
in
a
long-term
care
facility
right,
so
just
want
people
to
be
mindful
of
that
and.
T
Q
S
That's
where
it
gets
tricky
right.
We
stopped
reporting
that
when
a
while
ago,
because
the
state
was
like
there
is
no
definition
for
recovered
right
and
there
have
been,
there
were
circumstances
where
people
were
released
from
isolation
and
then
actually
worsened
after
it,
and
so
I
was
just
like
there's,
no
definition.
S
It's
giving
false
sense
of
security,
people
to
people
potentially
so
I.
We
just
stopped
doing
that.
I
know
the
state
has
recently
changed
and
come
up
with
their
way
of
doing
it.
What
we
race
we
track
now
is
who's
still
under
isolation.
I
don't
have
that
off
the
top
of
my
head
since
I.
Don't
report
that
out
anymore,
but
that's
kind
of
how
we
do
it,
but
just
knowing
that
you
could
be
released
from
isolation
based
on
guidelines
and
that
doesn't
mean
you're
out
of
the
woods
necessarily
and.
F
It's
just
a
very
personal
decision.
People
are
going
to
make
based
on
input
and
based
on
information
as
you
that
you
give
out,
and
so
the
recovery
it
was
interesting.
I
was
noticing
that
whether
it
was
WLOS
or
channel
21
either
one
they're
just
reporting
cases
and
deaths,
and
so
there's
there's
a
lot
of
positive
and
negative
between
there.
You.
E
B
F
E
A
S
A
S
Okay,
so
just
want
to
give
the
updates
long-term
care
facilities.
So,
as
I
mentioned
yesterday,
once
we
have
a
lab
confirmed
case
in
a
staff
or
resident
at
a
long-term
care
facility,
we've
we
go
in
and
we
do
a
site
visit
with
a
chemical
disease,
nurse
environmental
health
inspector
and
we
work
with
those
facilities
to
make
sure
they
get
to
all
staff
and
residents
tested
and
they've
all
been
very
cooperative
and
compliant
it
is.
It
is
significantly
like
challenging
to
do
all
this.
S
I
will
say,
despite
there
being
better
lab
capacity,
it's
still
a
lot
to
test
200
people
in
one
fell
swoop
or,
like
you
and
then
mount
up
like
so
you
need
testing
supplies,
which
you
know
it
takes.
Maybe
so
there's
some
lag
time
to
get
those
you
need
PPE,
you
need
staff,
just
the
logistics
of
like
filling
out
all
those
lab
requisitions
and
then
getting
all
this
I
mean
it's.
S
If
you
are
you
link
to
a
lab
that
can
do
your
testing.
Have
you
thought
through
all
these
things
and
then?
Actually
today,
we
pulled
all
of
them
together
for
it's
sorta,
like
a
learning
collaborative.
So
those
who
have
outbreaks
are
sharing
what
they're
learning
with
those
who
don't
yet
to
sort
of
say
here,
here's
what
you
need
to
know
in
preparation
and
how
to
prevent,
and
so
it's
it's
again
really
the
community
coming
together
to
figure
this
out,
when
maybe
the
guidance
and
support
from
other
levels
isn't
there.
S
So
it's
good
to
see
and
in
terms
of
community
testing.
So
last
week
we
had
two
two
events
that
Western
North
Carolina
communal
services,
partnered
with
us
on
about
100
people
tested
and
today
got
rained
out
thunderstorm
doubt
whatever
and
we'll
see
what
the
rest
of
the
week
holds.
But
that
is
an
issue
when
you're
trying
to
do
how
to
were
testing
and
then
yeah
the
testing
guidance
that
changed
last
week.
You
know
to
really
kind
of
encourage
testing
of
anybody
who
is
in
a
high
risk
or
high
priority
group.
S
You
know
I
again,
the
state
is
I
got
some
supplies
from
FEMA
and
is
has
set
up.
Some
processes
for
providers
can
go
in
order,
supplies
and
get
them
again.
It's
just
art.
You
know
our
health
care.
Everything
is
so
piecemeal
in
this
country
sometimes-
and
it's
just
this-
this
pandemic
has
really
done
a
great
job
of
showing
the
weaknesses
in
our
healthcare
system
in
our
society
and
and
we're
just
trying
to
make
to
get
testing
to
the
people
that
need
testing
and
then
to
make
sure
people
understand
what
testing
is
we
have
to
remember.
S
S
That
providers
have
the
resources
they
need
in
order
to
get
there
get
the
people
tested
you
need
tested.
So
that's
what
we're
trying
to
work
on
while
we're
managing
all
the
other
stuff
we're
trying
to
manage
in
terms
of
the
trajectory.
So
these
are
the
trends
the
state's
been
following,
and
these
are
are
sort
of
signals
of
where
we
think
we're
at
so
the
syndromic
like
covered
likes
and
Dermott
cases.
S
This
is
like
a
something
that
we
get
from
the
for
the
region,
the
western
region,
and
so
while
it
looks
like
the
people
who
are
visiting
emergency
departments
for
kovat
like
illness,
is
tracking
down
that's
going
in
the
right
direction,
as
I
mentioned
before
our
trajectory
of
cases
over
the
last
two
weeks
and
our
trajectory
of
percent
positive
is
not
going
in
the
right
direction
right
now
and
then
hospitalizations
so
far.
You
know
the
counts
have
been
pretty
low
and.
I
Afternoon,
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
guys
an
update
of
what
we
know
so
far
about
what
phase
two
you
may
potentially
look
like.
We
know
currently
phase
1
is
set
to
expire
on
Friday
at
5:00
p.m.
this
is
the
extent
so
just
to
be
very
clear.
This
is
governor
Cooper's
framework.
This
is
the
extent
of
what
we
know
so
far
about
what
may
possibly
be
entailed
in
phase
2,
we're
hoping
he
said.
I
P
So,
commissioners
and
Fletch,
if
you
don't
go
too
far,
last
time
and
phase
one,
we
all
decided
that
we
will
stick
with
the
governor's
and
align
ourselves
with
the
governor's.
So
as
this
is
getting
ready
to
go
to
phase
2,
that
will
be
de
quest
and
we
have
the
wand
restriction
on
travel.
So
if
we
want
to
talk
through
what
that
looks
like,
as
we
start
preparing
our
Virgin
to
bring
back
to
you
as
soon
as
we
hear
what
the
governor
is,
we
wanted
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
this
evening.
P
I
I
We've
had
a
discussion
at
some
capacity
level
and
also
we're
looking
at
some
other
jurisdictions
guidance
on
having
time
in
between
rooms
and
we're.
Having
that
discussion,
we
have
more
town
halls
scheduled
with
lodging
providers
later
this
week,
but
I
think
we're.
We
could
open
that
up
to
more
leisure
travel.
A
So
the
protocol,
as
currently
being
envisioned,
is
maximum
50%
capacity.
Every
other
room
has
to
remain
unoccupied
and
in
in
some
period
of
time
between
when
one
guest
leaves
and
the
next
one
would
be
able
to
stay
there,
but
the
duration
of
that
still
being
looked
at
figure
out.
What's
the,
what
makes
sense
on
that
point
is
that
our.
I
This
debate,
we're
looking
at
all
issues,
yeah
24
hours,
seems
to
be
and
part
of
the
reason
is
it
allows
people
if
there
is,
you
know
droplets
in
the
air.
It
gives
it
time
to
settle
and
then
time
to
clean
the
room
thoroughly
before
going
back
in,
but
we're
still
having
those
discussions,
but
that's
yeah.
That's
something
along
those
lines.
Okay,.
P
If
that
was
in
line
with
where
you
were
thinking
of
there's
other
things,
you
want
us
to
talk
through,
we
can,
if
there's
anything
on
that
list,
the
governor
has
laid
out
that
I
had
concerns
about.
We
can
talk
through
those
as
we
start
drafting
our
recommendations
and
we'll
bring
that
back
to
you
before
there's
an
order.
We
want
to
get
some
ideas
of
where
you
were
thinking.
Thank.
U
U
I
Right
I
think,
as
we
see,
we
don't
have
any
input
yet
from
public
health,
because
we
don't
know
what
phase
two
will
look
like,
but
I
think
as
we
look
at
if
we
do
have
to
regress.
We
have
the
same
kind
of
triggers
and
we
see
certain
certain
spikes
trends
in
our
EPI
curve,
which
we
know
we're
seeing
a
gradual
increase.
But
as
we
get
more
time
and
more
data,
we
be
able
to
tell
whether
that's
coming.
F
And
we're
also
receiving
information
from
all
these
sectors
through
the
town
halls
through
their
their
plans
where
they're
working
you
know
closely
with
staff
and
state
and
the
county
and
in
trying
to
you
know,
get
in
front
of
this
to
make
sure
that
you
know
whatever's
done
is
done.
You
know
safely
and
cautiously.
So
it's
not
like
people
are
sitting
on
their
hands.
I
mean
they're
they're,
getting
ready
right
beyond
anything,
they've
ever
done
in
the
in
the
past.
You
know
so
where
expectations
they'll
be,
you
know
and
I.
I
Will
say
you
know
we
touched
over
600
businesses
through
those
town
halls
and
it
will
say
the
most
consistent
feedback.
We
got
across
all
those
town
halls.
Was
businesses
asking
for
us
to
mandate
face
coverings
in
Buncombe
County,
so
that's
the
number
from
every
town
hall.
That
was
the
feedback
we
got
and
that
continues
to
be
echoed,
so
we're
determined
that
we
know
no
jurisdiction
in
the
country
has
be
able
to
successfully
enforce
it,
but
some
people
have
made
that
mandatory.
We
know
that
the
data
and
science
shows
that
can
significantly
reduce
transmission.
I
Q
I
Think
we
can
consider
that,
because
over
the
last
two
weeks
we
made
that
determination.
We
haven't.
We
were
concerned
that
we're
where
our
new
cases
would
be
coming
from
from
our
contact
tracing
and
from
our
trends
they're
not
coming
as
we
feared
from
out
of
state
that
that
may
change
in
the
future.
But
that
was
a
driving
point.
You
know
this
is
all
data
driven
from
numbers
were
looking
at.
We
haven't
seen
that
threat.
We
were
concerned
about
so
I
think
we
can
make
that
recommendation
of
relaxing
that
on
the
22nd.
I
But
you
know
we'll
continue
the
wash
those
trends
and
as
we
open
up,
if
we
may
see
that
with
B,
we
have
to
assume
some
risk
and
throughout
phases,
phase
1
and
phase
2
you
as
we
relaxed
restrictions,
were
all
assuming
risk,
knowing
that
the
decisions
were
making
will
undoubtedly
lead
to
increased
cases
and
more
deaths.
But
we
just
have
we're
putting
in
mitigation
factors
to
prevent
that
and
minimize
that
as
much
as
possible.
Okay,.
Q
Profession,
I
come
from
you
plan,
so
I
think
if
you
say
Thursday
we're
gonna,
relax,
phase
2
Friday
at
5
o'clock.
They
don't
give
you
a
chance
to
plan,
but
nonetheless
that's
what
it
is.
But
if
the
governor
goes
in
to
face
then
I
will
wreck
I
would
recommend
that
Buncombe
County
follows
phase
2
and
the
reason
I
do.
That
is
because
of
the
stories
that
we
hear.
Q
I
was
on
the
phone
yesterday
for
20
minutes,
a
guys
I'm
at
the
end
of
my
rope,
I
haven't
got
any
assistance,
blah
blah
blah
you
know
and,
and
so
I
think
it's
it
would
be.
I
could
support
going
into
phase
two.
We
know
the
virus.
Is
there
it's
it's
here
and
we
got
to
let
people
decide
how
you
have
to
protect
yourself,
though
we
can't
say
well
we're
going
to
keep
you
from.
Q
If
you
don't
want
to
protect
yourself
from
going
somewhere
else,
we
got
to
give
our
folks
the
freedom
to
make
the
choice,
and
the
last
thing
that
I
would
like
to
ask.
Is
you
say
that
you
would
like
for
us
to
mandate
businesses
to
wear
face
coverings?
I
mean
if
you
go
into
a
business,
it
says
shoes
and
shirts
required.
So
can
they
not
mandate
that
themselves
to
say
you
will
not
come
in
this
business
without
a
mask?
Yes,.
I
They
can't
mandate
it
and
we
found
the
statute
and
we're
pushing
signage
for
them
to
post,
okay
and
they
have
they
can
enforce
that
and
their
businesses
and
the
people
who
look
comply.
They
can
charge
them
with
trespassing
as
if
they
came
in
without
shoes
or
a
shirt,
but
the
feedback
we're
getting
is
these
businesses
wants
a
in
order
to
point
to
to
strengthen
their
case?
That's
just
that's
not
a
public
health
opinion
at
this
point.
That's
just
what
the
feedback
we're
getting
from
those
town
halls.
We
had.
F
F
It's
still
amazing
to
me
when
I
go
to
to
Engels
or
wherever
or
that
that
the
workers
are
working
that
full-time
shift
you
know
in
in
the
mask
and
that
they're
able
to
do
that
and
this
hats
off
tone.
That's
it
that's
that's
a
tough
thing
to
do
for
eight
hours
there
really
is,
but
I
think
that's
probably
accurate.
I
have.
A
A
question
on
this
topic
is
there?
Is
there
any
way
of
knowing
I
mean
we
all
kind
of
through
the
things
we
do
go
to
the
grocery
store,
whatever
we're
doing
out
we're
all
looking
around
house
how's
it
going,
you
know
what
do
we
have
any
do
we
have
any
like
objective
data
on
like
what
percentage
of
people
visiting
you
know,
retail
or
other
kind
of
commercial
facilities,
public
facilities
like
what's
our
current
utilization
on
like
face
coverings?
A
I
Only
aware
of
anecdotal
evidence
myself
and
dr.
Mullen
or
observing
ourselves
here
in
reports
through
these
town
halls
of
what
people
are
seeing
in
town
I
know,
Durham
has
reported
a
very
large
love
of
compliance.
So
we're
trying
to
find
out
how
they're
objectively
finding
a
data
point
for
that,
because
it's
really
tricky.
How
do
you?
How
would
you
know
other
than
having
people
out
counting
or
taking
tallies
as
people
walk
in
the
stores?
A
Yeah
yeah
there
probably
isn't
any
way
to
do
unless
you
did
like
literally
commissioned
a
survey,
and
probably
we
need
to
do
with
several
times
to
kind
of
see
what
what
the
trends
are.
But
is
there
any
way
that
that
that
we've
been?
You
know
it's
a
community
country
in
other
countries
going
through
this
to
get
a
sense
for
how
much
of
a
difference
it
makes
in
terms
of
kind
of
like
overall,
you
know
this
whole
like
our
factor.
A
If
it's
above
one
it
means
the
numbers
are
going
up
if
it's
below
one
it's
going
down.
If,
if
it's
one
to
study
like
how
big
of
a
difference
that
one
thing
makes
so
thirsty'
know,
there's
washing
hands
they're
staying
apart,
there's
all
these
different
things
we
can
do
to
help
or
to
increase
risk
so
where's
this
fit
in
with
that.
So.
I
We
know
from
recent
studies
from
the
CDC
and
other
medical
journals
that
I've
seen
between
75
and
80
percent
reduction
in
transmission,
particularly
if
multiple
parties
are
wearing
masks
so
of
just
the
transmitter
is
wearing
a
mask
or
just
the
receiver
is
wearing
a
master's
lower
transmission.
If
both
people
or
groups
are
wearing
masks,
it
significantly
hampers
the
potential
for
transmission.
We
know
other
countries
who
have
different
cultures
and
can
force
very
strictly.
I
So
you
know,
through
scientific
studies,
that
mask
can
significantly
reduce
transmission,
and
one
of
the
studies
we
saw
last
week
is
that
eighty
percent,
if
we
get
eighty
percent
of
public
wearing
those,
we
could
severely
hamper
and
maybe
even
cease
the
transmission
of
copán
19,
which
I
don't
think
whoever
gets
out
love
of
compliance,
but
every
little
bit
is
gonna
help
reduce
transmissions
and
anytime.
We
could
break
a
chain
of
transmission.
We're
gonna
significantly
reduce
our
overall
outcomes,
all
right.
R
F
It's
it's
so
confusing
it
is,
it
is
absolutely
confusing.
I
mean
you,
I've,
seen
people
going
into
grocery
stores
wearing
gloves
and
I'm
thinking.
You
touching
everything
in
there
and
you're
touching
your
phone
you're,
touching
your
face,
you're
wearing
gloves
and
so,
and
some
people
feel
a
little
bit
like
that
on
on
on
on
mass
and
I
mean
you
have
to.
E
F
E
F
I
Indulge
me
I'll,
take
a
second
try
to
clear
some
of
that
up.
So
you
know
doctor
Mulder
I
can
jump
in
if
I
misspeak,
but
we're
not
suggesting
the
general
public
wear
gloves,
there's
a
much
higher
risk
of
cross-contamination,
a
false
sense
of
security.
From
gloves.
You
know,
people
tend
to
spread
it
shred
diseases
more
when
they
wear
gloves.
I
There
are
specific
professions
where
they're
handling
either
materials
or
high
rate
of
frequency,
where
they
should
be
wearing
gloves,
but
general
public
general
basic
hygiene
and
hand
washing
is
the
best
solution
than
that
absolutely
and
then
for
face
coverings.
Everybody.
If
you're
out
in
the
public
space,
we
can't
consistently
maintain
six
for
the
distance
or
you're
going
to
be
in
a
location.
It
in
stores,
with
a
bunch
of
people
for
a
prolonged
period
of
time,
should
wear
some
sort
of
face
covering.
R
R
Were
we
spreading
more
germs
and
picking
up
all
the
litter
that
these
people
are
concerned
about
their
self
instead
of
everyone
else
or
using
the
trash?
Can
I
think
that's
something
we
need
to
look
at
and
I'm
hearing
it
from
store
managers
that
they're
taking
every
protocol.
They
can
I've
sinned
and
kids
out
there
or
adults
to
pick
them.
My
gloves
up
I
mean
absolutely.
R
I
Q
O
Q
A
Right,
dr.
Mullen
watch,
we
appreciate
you
both
very
much
thanks
for
staying
with
us
this
evening
we
went
overtime
a
little
bit
but
I'm
glad
we
did.
So,
let's
commissioners,
let's
there
was
one
item
left,
but
let's
just
push
that
out
to
our
next
meeting.
It's
about
just
looking
at
what
we
want
to
call
these
meetings.
We
call
it
pre
meeting
though
we
want
to
keep
calling
it
that
or
something
else
so
we'll
take
this
up
better
next
one,
it's
not
time
sensitive.