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From YouTube: Board of Commissioners' Regular Meeting (Nov. 5, 2019)
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Regular Meeting of the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners from Nov. 5, 2019. To view the meeting agenda, or future meeting agendas, please visit buncombecounty.org/commissioners.
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A
A
There
will
be
a
Veterans
Day
ceremony
at
11
a.m.
at
the
Charles
George
VA
Medical
Center
in
Asheville,
so
I
wanted
to
ask
if
we
have
the
honor
of
having
any
veterans
with
us
in
the
meeting
this
evening.
I
know
we
have
one
sitting
sitting
right
next
to
us,
Commissioner
allied
sides
and
another
gentleman
whose
who's
with
us
as
well
and
Commissioner
Commissioner
Mike
fryer
as
well,
any
any
other
folks
who
were
with
us
as
well
all
right.
Let's,
let's
give
all
these
I'll.
Let's
give
all
these
folks
around
with.
B
Think
it's
last
week
on
Thursday
voice,
Pro
had
a
young
man
on
the
back
of
their
truck
just
somehow
he
ended
up
coming
off
and
ended
up
getting
killed.
So
we've
had
some
problems
with
Whitesboro
for
the
lice
a
little
bit
and
I
think
they're
gonna
try
to
fix
it,
but
the
main
thing
concern.
We
need
to
put
our
prayers
there
for
this
young
man
and
his
family
that
got
killed.
So
that's
all
last.
A
Before
we
begin
our
meeting
I
wanted
to
ask
if
we
could
have
a
moment
of
silence
to
recognize
all
the
people
who
have
served
all
the
men
and
women
who
have
served
our
country
and
let's
also
keep
in
prayers
the
family
of
the
person
who
commissioner
friars
just
mentioned,
who
who
died
here
in
Buncombe,
County,
24
years
old.
So
let's
please
have
a
moment
of
silence.
A
A
Any
matters
that
are
voted
on
by
the
board
this
evening,
I
do
want
to
disclose
that
we
are
gonna,
be
voting
on
a
solar
RFP
for
public
facilities
this
evening
and
I
do
work
in
the
solar
business.
The
company
I
work
for
will
not
be
involved
in
any
bidding
on
any
public
contracts
for
in
that
on
that
issue.
So,
but
I
didn't
want
to
disclose
that
all
right,
so
we
come
to
the
consent
agenda.
Are
there
any
questions
before
we
before
we
approve
the
consent
agenda?
A
A
C
A
A
In
favor
please
say:
aye
aye
any
opposed
all
right.
We
have
several
presentations.
The
first
one
is
for
adoption.
Awareness
is
the
adoption,
awareness,
Proclamation
and
Commissioner
Amanda
Edwards
is
going
to
present
this
proclamation
in
Stoney
Blevins.
Our
Health
and
Human
Services
director
is
here
this
evening
as
well.
So
Commissioner,
do
you
want
to
read
the
proclamation
from
the
podium.
E
E
Now,
therefore,
be
it
proclaimed
by
the
Board
of
Commissioners
for
the
county
of
bunkum
as
follows:
that
the
month
of
November
2019
be
proclaimed,
Adoption
Awareness
Month
in
Buncombe
County,
that
all
citizens,
community
agencies,
religious
organizations,
businesses
and
others
be
encouraged
to
celebrate
adoption
and
honor
adoptive
families
by
increasing
their
awareness
of
the
issues
of
adoption
and
helping
to
focus
attention
on
the
need
for
adoptive
parents
and
the
children
who
are
waiting
for
permanent
homes
that
this
proclamation
be
effective.
Upon.
E
F
Commissioners
and
members
of
the
public
adoption
is
very
special
thing
for
me
personally
and
professionally
and
there's
a
phrase
in
the
Bible
that
said,
God
sets
the
lonely
and
Families,
and
whether
or
not
you
believe
in
the
teachings
of
that
book,
there
is
something
very
comforting
about
the
fact
that
a
loving
Authority
would
take
lonely
people
who
have
been
disenfranchised
and
separated
from
family
and
placed
them
in
a
forever
family,
and
this
really
is
what
we
do
at
Health
and
Human
Services.
We
serve
children
through
our
Authority.
We
do
have
authority.
F
Thank
you
so
much
for
recognizing
the
work
that
we
do
and
I
say
we
it's
really
they
and
so
I
did
want
to
bring
the
folks
up
here
with
me
that
do
this
work
every
day
as
well
as
we
have
some
adoptive
parents
with
us
especially
want
to
recognize
them,
and
so
I
do
want
to
call
them
by
name
and
I'm.
Gonna,
read
them
because
and
honestly
I
get
my
own
children's
names
wrong.
So
that
happens
a
lot,
but
we
have
Rebecca
Smith
who's,
our
Social
Work
director
and
sherry
Thomas,
who
is
our
adoption
manager?
F
A
A
F
I'd
like
to
call
it
okay,
so
Medicaid
transformation,
I'm
sure
we've
all
been
hearing
a
lot
about
transformation
over
the
last
several
months.
It's
actually
been
a
topic,
that's
been
around
since
2015,
and
we
just
wanted
to
bring
this
to
the
attention
of
the
board
in
to
the
public
tonight,
primarily
on
for
the
benefit
of
our
citizens.
Although.
D
F
F
This
is
a
basic
timeline
of
Medicaid
transformation,
so,
as
I
mentioned
in
2015,
this
was
enacted
into
law,
which
would
take
our
Medicaid
program
from
a
fee-for-service
program
to
a
managed
care
program.
The
primary
driver
of
that
decision
really
was
around
cost
containment.
Medicaid
costs
were
soaring
in
our
state.
They
were
unpredictable.
They
were
causing
lots
of
budget
issues,
so
the
initial
design
was
to
create
a
system
that
could
contain
and
predict
cost
between
2015
and
right.
F
Around
January
of
2017,
we
actually
received
God
a
new
secretary,
a
new
health
and
human
service
secretary
who
was
well
versed.
She
was
a
medical
doctor
well-versed
in
things
like
social
determinants
of
health,
whole
person,
integrated
care
and
actually
the
North
Carolina
Senate
and
the
HHS
secretary
really
became
enamored
with
the
idea
of
a
whole
person.
Integrated
approach
in
this
managed
care,
and
so
I
don't
have
on
the
timeline.
But
that
is
a
key
thing
to
remember.
Rolling
up
to
today,
health
contracts
were
awarded
in
February
of
last
year.
F
In
October
of
this
year,
open
enrollment
began
for
our
citizens.
If
you
move
down
to
November,
2019
you'll
see
contract
negotiations,
that's
contract
negotiations
between
the
health,
insurance
companies
and
medical
providers,
doctors
HHS
anybody
that
provides
medical
service
under
Medicaid.
The
open
enrollment
will
end
in
December
and
anyone
who
did
not
enroll
any
citizen
who
did
not
roll
will
be
auto
enrolled
on
December.
The
16th
will
begin
scheduling,
Medicaid
transportation
in
January,
and
the
launch
will
begin
in
February
of
2020
statewide.
F
Just
to
give
you
a
little
overview
of
the
differences
in
the
program,
so
the
former
Medicaid
program
was
called
is
now
called
Medicaid
direct,
and
this
is
a
fee-for-service
program
where
you
go
to
the
doctor
like
we
would
use
our
County
insurance
and
go
to
the
doctor,
the
doctor
bills,
the
insurance,
a
certain
amount
for
that
service,
I
may
or
may
not
have
a
copay,
that's
direct
care.
The
managed
care
model
is
where
North
Carolina
Medicaid
is
contracting
with
for
prepaid
health
plans.
F
These
are
large
insurance
companies
who
will
receive
a
per
member
per
month
rate
for
everyone,
that's
enrolled
in
their
plan,
and
then
they
will
manage
the
medical
care
of
the
folks
in
there.
So
they'll
do
contracts
with
doctors
and
other
providers,
and
then
they
will
manage
the
financial
benefit
of
that.
As
you
see
here
on
the
beneficiary
impact,
we
have
roughly
forty
eight
thousand
citizens
residents
in
Buncombe
County
who
received
Medicaid
and
used
Medicaid
as
their
insurance
program,
and
that's
something
to
think
about
our
try
to
say
this.
F
Every
time
I
speak
of
Medicaid,
it's
really
an
insurance
program,
just
like
Medicare,
just
like
Blue
Cross,
Blue,
Shield,
United
Healthcare,
whatever
you
may
have
its
a
medic
and
insurance
program.
So
this
change
in
service
delivery
will
impact
65%
of
our
forty,
eight
thousand
plus
citizens
who
receive
this
insurance
program.
As
of
February
the
managed
care
model,
as
you
can
see,
one
thing
I
want
citizens
to
realize
is
your
services
will
remain
whole.
So
this
is
not
a
reduction
in
benefit,
so
it
will
still
cover
anything
that
medicaid
covers
today.
F
It
will
cover
x-rays,
it
will
cover
doctors,
visits
it'll,
cover
hospital
visits,
anything
the
dentists,
anything
that
Medicaid
covers
today
will
still
be
covered
under
the
managed
care
model.
You'll
just
be
going
through
a
company
to
get
it
rather
than
the
state
Medicaid
office.
One
thing
I
would
like
to
mention:
is
these
companies
are
offering
what
are
called
value-added
services?
Think
of
these
as
wellness
benefits,
it
varies
program
by
program
provided
by
provider,
but
things
like
weight
management,
smoking,
cessation,
transportation
to
work.
F
One
company
is
offering
school
supplies,
I
mean
it's
really
varies
program
to
program,
but
these
are
things
that
they
would
consider
social
determinants
that
might
keep
a
person
well
so
that
they
don't
have
to
go
to
the
to
enrollment.
The
first
thing
I
would
say
to
citizens
is
be
sure
when
you
enroll
that
you
find
your
doctor
first,
because
you
don't
want
to
enroll
in
a
plan
that
your
doctor
has
not
signed
a
contract
with
because
managed
care
works
on
a
medical
home
model.
F
So
your
primary
care
physician
will
be
sort
of
the
gatekeeper
of
your
health
care.
So
I
can't
say
it
enough.
Go
to
that
site
or
go
to
an
enrollment
broker,
find
your
doctor
before
you
look
at
what
all
the
plans
offer.
After
that,
we
need
to
choose
a
health
plan,
there's
four
options
in
our
state
and
you
can
look
at
there's
a
document
on
that
website.
That
shows
the
benefits
of
each
plan
and
what
they
offer
much
like
in
an
employment
situation,
you
can
often
choose
more
than
one
plan.
F
Some
have
different
deductibles
and
things
like
that.
This
is
the
way
that
you
can
enroll.
So
you
can
go
to
the
website
and
see
Medicaid
plans.
Gov,
you
can
use
a
mobile
app,
you
can
call
toll-free
or
you
can
also
fill
out
an
enrollment
form
and
our
citizens
should
have
gotten
an
enrollment
packet
in
the
mail
in
early
to
mid
October.
F
F
We
have
a
designated
computer
station
in
our
lobby
off
to
the
side
where
you
can
sit
and
access
this
website
and
someone
can
help
you
navigate
it.
These
are
the
four
health
plans:
America
Caritas
Blue,
Cross
and
Blue
Shield
operating
as
healthy
blue
United,
Healthcare
of
North,
Carolina
and
well
care
of
North
Carolina.
F
F
Our
communication
plan
we,
when
the
when
the
packets
went
out,
we
did
a
robo
call
to
all
Medicaid
recipients
in
Buncombe
County.
Just
letting
them
know
that
the
packets
were
coming
explaining
as
best
we
could,
what
it
would
be.
It's
a
very
large
packet
can
be
a
little
bit
confusing
we're
doing
the
old
school
handouts.
Posters,
articles,
social
media,
we're
also
scheduling
some
community
meetings,
which
I
know
that
we
have
on
there.
F
But
we
have
one
meeting
at
Cox
at
our
downtown
location
and
then
we
will
be
having
a
meeting
and
inko
will
be
having
a
meeting
in
Weaverville
we
having
a
meeting
in
Black
Mountain,
so
we're
trying
to
get
across
out
into
the
community,
so
folks
won't
have
to
travel
into
and
downtown
to
meet
with
an
enrollment
broker
and
at
those
meetings
we'll
have
representatives
of
the
health
plans
there
to
explain
their
plans
as
well
as
the
enrollment
broker
will
be
on
site.
So
they
could
help
you
sign
up.
F
You
know,
while
you're
at
the
event,
when
we
look
at
program
impact
for
the
county,
it
really
impacts
us
in
four
major
departments
or
areas.
Our
economic
services
division.
At
HHS,
Public,
Health,
mountain
mobility,
our
transportation
provider
and
also
emergency
services
in
the
way
of
ambulance
service
and
economic
services,
primarily
I,
do
want
to
make
this
clear
to
citizens.
Medicaid
transformation
does
not
impact
the
eligibility
process,
so
how
you
are
determined
to
receive
Medicaid
does
not
change.
If
you
want
to
apply
for
Medicaid,
you
are
free
to
come
into
our
office,
as
you
always
have.
F
If
you
need
to
redetermination
smell
an
app,
you
can
do
it
online.
So
we
want
to
make
clear
that
folks
know
that
how
you
receive
the
benefit
has
not
changed.
Just
how
you
will
receive
your
services
is
what
will
change?
We
also
are
responsible
to
administer
what
we
call
non-emergency
medical
transportation,
so
this
is
trips
to
the
doctor,
the
dentist
mental
health
provider
that
are
not
emergency
in
nature,
so
think
of
anything
besides
an
ambulance
ride.
F
We
currently
do
this
through
a
contract
with
Landis
Kai,
Regional,
Council
and
citizens
call
their
land
of
sky
arranges
their
medical
trip
for
them
and
also
manages
contracts
with
all
the
transportation
vendors
in
the
county.
As
of
February
1st,
that
65%
that
we
were
talking
about
that
go
into
managed
care,
we'll
have
to
call
their
prepaid
health
plan
to
get
their
ride
to
the
doctor.
So
if
they
choose
healthy,
blue
they'll
call
healthy
blue
to
get
a
ride
to
the
doctor,
no
longer
land
of
sky.
F
Of
course,
we
still
will
be
responsible
to
provide
transportation
to
that
35%
beneficiary's,
which,
as
you
can
see,
is
21
almost
22,000
people
and
that
doesn't
line
up
with
the
35%
folks,
who
will
receive
Medicaid
direct
or
a
little
more
likely
to
need
transportation
than
some
of
our
other
populations.
So
we
have
continued
work
with
land
of
sky
and
they're
willing
to
continue
to
provide
transportation
on
our
behalf.
F
F
A
lot
like
it
impacts
every
other
medical
provider
in
the
community,
we'll
be
signing
contracts
with
these
for
large
insurance
companies,
just
like
doctors
will
or
mission
HCA
or
may
heck,
and,
as
you
can
see,
though,
of
these
services
that
we
provide
primary
care
providers
are
much
less
likely
to
provide
some
of
these.
These
services,
nursing,
Emilee
partnership
and
care
management.
F
Of
course,
our
Medicaid
programs
aimed
at
mothers
with
very
young
children
or
pregnant
mothers,
and
this
service
that
we
provide
pretty
much
exclusively
I,
guess
we'll
see
whether
private
providers
will
really
get
more
into
the
family
planning
or
immunization
business,
which
obviously
is
a
big
part,
of
course,
service
of
Public
Health.
We
do
want
to
make
this
clear
if
someone
has
Medicaid
and
they're
in
managed
care,
they
still
can
come
to
public
health
for
services.
You
know
we
are
a
public
entity,
safety
net
provider.
F
We
don't
turn
anyone
away
because
of
their
insurability,
so
we
wouldn't
want
someone
to
feel
like
because
they're
now
in
managed
care
and
they're
receiving
benefits
through
one
of
those
companies
that
they
couldn't
bring
their
children
in
for
an
immunization.
We
would
want
you
to
bring
them
on
in
and
we
will
serve
you
okay.
G
G
For
that
service,
give
you
some
perspective
about
6%
of
our
service
mileage,
which
is
how
we
actually
account
for
our
costing
are
attributed
to
any
MT
clients
and
the
trips
that
they
take,
and
those
are
FY
19
figures
and
projected
to
be
about
the
same
for
FY,
2020
and
as
I
mentioned.
So
we
are
currently
a
provider.
G
We
work
with
the
broker
that
the
county
has
designated
for
Medicaid
recipients,
that
being
land
of
sky,
and
we
are
selected
from
a
pool
of
eligible
providers
and
that's
based
on
our
costing
and
our
contract
rates,
so
we're
one
of
many
providers.
So
currently
we
have
the
one
contract
with
land
of
sky
and
they
reach
out
to
mount
mobility,
to
schedule,
appointments
and
after
February
1st,
we
anticipate
as
many
as
five
potential
contracts.
G
So
each
insurance
company
has
a
broker
and
we
would
have
to
contract
with
each
broker
to
continue
to
be
that
provider
of
transportation,
and
so
we
are
actively
working
with
the
brokers.
We've
received
contract
draft
documents
from
each
of
them
and
we'll
be
working
to
negotiate
out
rates
and
other
aspects
of
contracting
so
that
we
can
continue
to
be
a
provider
for
the
citizens
that
use
Medicaid
transportation
going
forward
and
with
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Matt
Evan.
H
So
your
title
slide
promised
you
an
emergency
services,
rip
I'm,
not
an
emergency
services.
I'm
in
finance.
I
was
in
a
meeting
once
where
we
talked
about
this.
Had
I'd
known
I've
been
up
here
tonight.
I
would
have
drank
some
stronger
coffee
that
morning,
but
I
do
think
they
put
the
slides
together,
but
I
think
I
know
where
they're
trying
to
go.
I
want
to
back
up
a
little
bit
in
the
lens
of
the
ambulance
services
that
the
county
provides.
H
We
have
four
patient
types,
Medicare
Medicaid
insurance
and
direct
bill
are
Medicare
or
Medicaid
as
far
as
bill
and
go
offer
over
90%
pay
back.
So
the
slide
that
you
see
here
16%
is
the
calendar
year.
2018
data,
16
percent
of
our
emergency
services
calls
were
Medicaid,
so
it's
not
a
lot
and
then,
if
we
were
to
look
at
FY,
2019
and
kind
of
extend
that
out
six
months,
it
was
14%.
So
we're
talking,
you
know,
2,700
folks,
and
then,
as
we
talk
about
non-emergency
trips,
we're
looking
at
14
a
year.
H
H
Everything's
going
to
go
status
quo
folks
are
just
going
to
need
to
run
through
those
PHP
is
to
make
sure
they
get
the
service
that
they
need
if
there
are
non-emergent,
if
they
need
non-emergent
transport
they're
going
to
need
to
go
through
a
broker.
We're
currently
working
with
that
as
well
to
make
sure
that
we're
on
the
list
for
those
non-emergency
transports.
H
F
F
Tailored
plans
will
be
implemented,
and
this
will
greatly
affect
our
beneficiaries,
who
receive
behavioral
health
services
and
also
will
have
some
impact
on
our
LMA
MCO
via
health.
So
we
have
also
invited
them
to
give
a
brief
update
on
what
that
might
mean
in
terms
of
the
population
that
they
serve.
I
Good
evening,
chairman
commissioners
and
the
public,
my
name
is
Cristina
to
push
and
I'm
the
chief
of
community
operations
for
via
health
and
I.
Have
my
colleague
with
me
this
evening,
Angie
Gardner,
who
is
your
liaison
to
this
community
in
this
county
and
community
in
several
other
counties
for
us?
So
thank
you
so
much
Cindy
for
giving
us
a
few
minutes.
I
won't
take
up
much
of
your
time
so
setting
I
thinking
the
staff
have
done
a
great
job
in
kind
of
setting
up.
I
What's
going
on
currently
right
now
provide
health,
of
course
we're
seeing
the
separation
of
consumers
and
families
that
we
have
served
previously
historically,
in
our
system
that
are
moving
to
the
commercial
world
of
the
prepaid
health
plans,
we
are
since
2014.
We
have
been
preparing
for
the
day
that
the
system
would
move
to
this
next
phase
of
Medicaid
transformation.
That
is
referenced
as
the
Taylor
plan
and
as
Tony
was
mentioning.
This
is
really
the
most
chronic
persistent
mentally
ill
people
who
have
behavioral
health
issues,
substance
issues
and
in
individuals
who
have
intellectual
and
development
disabilities.
I
In
that
Senate
bill
that
was
passed
or
the
General
Assembly
passed
back
several
years
ago,
there
was
a
there
was
a
lot
of
question
about
what
was
the
role
of
the
LMA
MCS
via
health
via
is
one
of
the
seven
LME
MCS
across
North
Carolina.
You
probably
probably
have
some
history.
We
were
typically
Smokey
Mountain.
The
organization
has
been
around
for
about
50
years,
so
we
have
been
preparing.
This
is
a
huge
lift.
Currently,
today
is
probably
many
of
you
know.
We
have
been
responsible
for
the
behavioral
health
and
idd
services
for
these
individuals.
I
We
have
not
been
managing
on
the
Medicaid
side,
the
health
care
cost.
So
what
we
are
hearing.
What
we
continue
to
hear
is
that
the
RFP
from
the
Department
of
Health
and
Human
Services
will
be
issued,
hopefully
around
February,
depending
on
what
we
see
the
General
Assembly
does
in
the
next
couple
of
weeks,
and
then
he
actually
may
take
or
not
take.
If
that
date
holds
true,
then
in
February
there
would
be
an
RFP
issued
as
the
rule
is
the
law
of
the
statute
states.
I
Today,
the
LME
MCO
is
liked
by
a
health
would
be
the
only
agencies
eligible
to
apply
for
that
RFP
and,
of
course,
that
would
be
a
very
competitive
bid
in
the
legislation
there.
Seven
today
the
legislation
says
that
there
could
be
five
to
seven
chosen,
so
they've
left
the
door
open
if
we
would
all
survive
or
not
to
be
very
honest,
and
so
what
we
are
doing
internally
today
with
our
communities
with
groups
of
people,
this
Commissioner
board
and
other
ones,
we
represent
22
counties
in
Western,
North
Carolina.
I
We
have
a
privilege
to
manage
the
medicaid,
and
also
we
represent
the
people
who
are
unfunded,
who
many
of
our
communities
really
struggle
with
today,
so
we
are
preparing
internally.
You
know
we
are
ramping
up
to
become.
You
know,
experts
in
health
care.
We
have.
We
have,
you
know
more
primary
care.
Physicians.
We
have
pharmacists,
we've
hired
nurses
clinicians.
I
So
this
is
a
huge
lift,
but
I
think
that
the
vision
that
the
Department
Health
and
Human
Services,
in
conjunction
with
the
General
Assembly,
has
laid
out
for
North
Carolinians
who
are
in
these
situations,
is
really
the
whole
concept
of
integrated
care
and
whole
person
care
which
I
think
all
of
us
just
as
citizens.
It's
the
type
of
health
care
I
want
the
type
of
health
care
we
all
desire
in
our
lives
and
I.
Think
I
have
been
in
the
system
over
40
years
and
I
would
say.
I
This
is
the
closest
it's
kind
of
the
ultimate
Medicaid
transformation.
It
is
very
complicated.
It
is
very
controversial
and
I
think
all
of
us.
You
know
we
can
spend
the
rest
evening
talking
about
that
where
we
want,
but
I
think
what
we
would
like
for
you
to
know
tonight
that
you
have
via
health
who
represents
me
of
the
citizens
and
works
very
closely
with
your
departments.
Here
in
the
county
and
across
Western
North
Carolina,
to
walk
hand-in-hand.
We
continue
to
build
very
strong
relationships
with
the
four
pH
PS.
I
We
really
have
five
because
Alexander
County,
which
is
one
of
our
counties
east
of
here
that
you're
probably
familiar
with
there-
is
another.
It
was
a
provider
led
entity
that
was
chosen
really
another
php',
it's
a
little
different
animal,
but
they
just
had
an
expansion
of
their
coverage
and
so
for
vaya.
We
one
of
our
counties
will
have
the
consumers
and
the
families
will
have
a
choice
of
five
pH
piece
to
choose
from
in
that
one
particular
County.
I
But
this
sort
of
is
a
side
note,
but
we
really
continue
to
move
forward
internally
externally
to
hire
the
expertise
to
move
the
system
forward
to
be
prepared.
We
would
manage
all
the
minute
the
Medicaid
health
care
for
individuals,
other
than
dentistry
dentistry
was
carved
out
of
this
particular
decision
at
this
point
in
time.
So
I
would
stop
there
and
see
if
you
had
any
questions
or
comments,
don't
want
to
take
away
from
stone
any
of
what
you
may
want
to
ask
him,
but
thank
you
so
much
all.
A
Right,
thank
you
very
much
any
questions.
All
right,
don't
see
any
at
this
time.
Thank
you,
though.
Thank
you
all
right,
Stoney,
any
any
any
other
info
on
this
that
we
need
to
know,
or
is
that
conclude
this
presentation.
A
J
A
J
We
are
thirty
three
hundred
thirty-five
million
point
and
we
have
year-to-date
collections
of
thirty
nine
point.
Eight,
as
you
can
see,
most
categories
are
pretty
close
to
where
they
were
at
this
time.
Last
year
now,
when
we
talk
about
revenues,
property
tax,
the
majority
of
property
tax
is
collected
in
November
through
January
and
then
sales
tax,
you'll
notice.
There
is
nothing
recorded
for
local
option
tales
sales
tax
and
that's
due
to
the
lag
time
from
the
time
the
transaction
occurs
until
the
state
actually
pays
us,
which
is
about
three
months.
J
We
look
at
expenditures
for
the
general
fund
by
function,
and
this
is
what
we
budget
at
we're.
At
20
percent
of
budget
expended
total
budget,
335
million
Act
total
actuals
67
compared
to
last
year.
We're
just
total
in
total
were
slightly
above
about
point
five,
nine
percent-
if
we
look
at
it
from
by
category
which
is
our
salaries
and
benefits
operating
expenditures,
we're
trending
pretty
well
on
salaries
and
benefits
at
this
point
program
is
just
a
little
bit
higher
than
last
year,
and
then
we
have
transfers
and
other
financing.
J
So
we
have
done
some
transfers
already
this
year,
which
we
had
not
done.
The
prior
two
yeah
looking
at
the
solid
waste
fund,
total
budget
is
nine
point.
Six
million
total
revenues
collected
to
date
is
2.9
million
or
thirty
point
nine
percent
of
budget
compared
to
twenty
nine
teen
fiscal
year
2019.
We
are
above
revenues
by
twenty
nine
point,
six
percent,
so
we
are
doing
really
well
talking
with
Dane.
The
transfer
station
is
doing
really
well
so
now
that
that's
fully
online
and
operational,
it's
it's
really
collecting
the
revenues.
J
Now,
as
far
as
first
quarter
I
know,
it's
not
very
exciting
because
there's
not
a
whole
lot
going
on
yet
we're
gonna
continue
to
monitor
it.
If
anything
were
to
jump
out
at
us,
it
would
be
of
concern.
Then
we
would
bring
it
to
your
attention,
but
otherwise,
we'll
just
come
back
for
the
second
quarter
report.
We
happy
to
answer
any
questions
any
happening.
A
K
K
First,
let
me
say
for
the
record
that
this
public
hearing
was
met
if
was
noticed
properly
in
accordance
with
the
North
Carroll
General
Statutes
and
Buckham
County
Code,
details
of
which
are
on
the
slide.
The
applicant
tonight
is
mr.
Terry
Peterson
the
property
owners
of
Mary
Ann
and
John
SATA
the
address
for
the
property
in
question
as
to
2586
and
2592
Hendersonville
Road
or
US
Highway
25
south.
This
is
just
north
of
the
interesting
County
line
on
25
some
basic
property
information.
The
subject
property
is
0.8
acres
in
size
currently
used
for
mixed-use
retail.
K
K
Some
basic
comparative
between
the
two
districts
r2
is
a
standard
single-family
residential,
medium
density.
Zoning
district
allows
a
broad
range
of
residential
type
uses
and
some
very
limited
office
and
institutional
type
uses.
Whereas
sea
s,
commercial
services
is
a
fairly
intensive
commercial
zoning
district,
it
does
allow
residential
uses,
but
its
primary
purpose
is
for
a
variety
of
types
of
commercial
office.
Business,
light
institutional
and
some
very
light
manufacturing
type
uses
basic
comparison
from
a
geometric
perspective
of
the
two
districts,
they're,
almost
identical
in
terms
of
minimum
lot
sizes
setbacks
things
like
that.
K
The
key
difference
really
is
in
the
range
of
allowable
uses.
I
don't
have
a
slide,
but
in
your
staff
report
on
attachment
a
which
is
in
your
packet,
you
do
have
a
comparison
side-by-side
of
the
two
districts.
Some
basic
typical
uses
that
you
would
find
in
CS
that
are
not
allowable
in
our
to
residential
restaurants,
medical
clinics,
vet
clinics,
professional
offices,
business
offices,
things
like
that.
Those
are
not
allowable
today
in
our
to.
K
K
K
This
particular
application
is
consistent
with
every
variable,
in
your
land-use
plan,
its
approximate
to
major
transportation
corridors
served
by
water
and
sewer,
it's
not
in
the
floodplain,
it's
not
on
a
steep
slope
and
it's
not
it's
not
proximate
to
low-density
residential
uses.
Therefore,
from
staffs
perspective
and
the
plan
aborted
as
well,
this
would
be
consistent
with
neighborhood
character
and
is
consistent
with
the
Comprehensive
Plan
recommendations.
The
plan
of
board
on
October
7th
recommended
approval
by
an
eight
to
zero
vote.
Unanimous
staff
concurs
and
also
recommends
approval,
I'll
be
happy
to
take
any
questions.
A
All
right,
I
do
not
see
any
questions
at
this
time.
So
let's
have
been
the
public
hearing
on
this
item
open
the
public
hearing
at
five.
Forty
three:
are
there
any
members
of
the
public
who
wish
to
comment
on
the
proposal?
Yes,
sir
yep
yeah,
please
come
up
to
the
podium
and
let
us
know
your
name
and
you'll.
Have
three
minutes
to
comment
and
you'll
get
an
orange
light
when
you've
got
I
think
30
seconds
and
then,
when
the
red
light
goes
off
your
time's
up
and
please.
M
L
This
property
listed
for
sale
and
we
certainly
have
complications
of
trying
to
market
it.
With
the
current
zoning,
it's
been
zoned
r2
somewhat
forever.
It
has
been
operated
as
a
commercial
parcel
for
over
65
years.
Most
all
of
the
neighboring
properties
are
sown
commercial
service.
So
the
idea
is
to
merely
try
and
land
this
in
with
what
everything
else
is
it's
on
a
commercial
corridor.
L
N
A
D
A
Right,
there's
a
motion
in
second
to
rezone:
the
property
is
outlined
in
the
staff
report,
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye
any
opposed
all
right:
Thank,
You,
Josh,
okay,
I've,
come
to
the
county
managers
report.
Mr.
Pender
give
any
items
all
right.
Very
good.
Okay,
first
item
under
first
and
only
item
under
old
business
is
a
discussion
about
the
guidelines
for
funding
of
nonprofit
agencies,
which
we
talked
about
at
our
last
meeting
and
Rachel.
Nygaard
is
here
to
present
this
item.
B
A
Q
Evening
my
name
is
Rachel
Nygaard
and
I'm,
the
strategic
partnerships
director
for
Buncombe
County
and
back
with
you
this
evening.
The
last
time
we
discussed
this
item
was
October
15th
in
your
last
regular
meeting,
and
this
is
item
related
to
guidelines
for
funding
of
nonprofit
organizations,
and
there
are
only
two
parts
to
this
conversation.
Q
The
first
piece
that
we're
gonna
spend
some
time
on
is
to
look
at
an
updated
process
for
the
strategic
partnership
grants
process.
The
second
piece
which
we'll
get
to
in
a
little
bit
has
to
do
with
the
overall
resolution
establishing
guidelines
for
any
grants
within
county
wide.
So
before
I
begin,
I
wanted
to
make
a
note
about
the
strategic
partnership
grants.
There
has
been
a
little
bit
of
confusion,
because
Buncombe
County
does
have
a
number
of
different
grant
processes.
Q
So,
to
be
clear,
this
conversation
is
about
the
eligibility
and
process
and
recommendations
for
strategic
partnership
grants.
If
you
go
to
Buncombe
County
org
slash
grants
there's
a
list
of
many
different
grant
programs
that
are
administered
through
the
county.
A
lot
of
it
is
general
county
funds,
and
some
of
it
is
passed
through
from
state
or
other
federal
funds,
so
the
affordable
housing
program,
the
aging
services
funds,
community
recreation
grants,
Isaac,
Coleman
grants,
juvenile
crime
prevention,
council
or
jcpc
tipping-point
grants,
etc.
The
this
those
are
all
outside
of
the
scope
of
this
first
part.
Q
After
discussion
during
the
last
meeting
when
Commissioner,
Edwards
and
I
presented
information-
and
there
was
conversation
among
the
Board
of
Commissioners
and
we
bring
forward
the
following
recommendations-
these
are
categorized
by
section,
so
the
first
recommendation
being
around
timeline.
This
is
not
a
change.
This
would
be
opening
the
applications
in
December
and
having
them
be
due
in
February.
That
would
be
our
typical
annual
cycle.
Q
The
new
piece
is
to
be
more
strict
and
adhering
to
note
no
late
applications
so
that
we
can
stay
on
timeframe
and
that
funding
would
stay
aligned
to
the
fiscal
year
so
that
the
decision
making
process
happens
after
the
grant
applications
are
due
in
February
and
then
funding
begins
July
1
and
follows
the
fiscal
year.
The
second
category
of
recommendations
is
budget.
The
recommendation
is
to
confirm
the
funding
prior
to
opening
up
the
grant
process
based
on
looking
at
the
prior
year.
Q
Funding
and
an
item
that
was
added
in
response
to
your
conversation
on
October
15th
was
prior
to
opening
the
grant
process.
If
there's
a
desire
from
the
Board
of
Commissioners,
we
could
earmark
a
portion
of
that
funding
for
specific
goals.
I'll
get
through
these
recommendations
and
then
we
can
come
back
to
any
that
you
have
questions
about.
Q
N
I'm,
the
one
that
brought
that
up
and
what
was
interesting,
I
got
a
call
today
on
my
home
phone.
Are
you
Commissioner
Belcher?
That
represents
our
area
in
the
beaver
dam
area
and
they
were
asking
about
community
center,
and
so
some
of
that
will
come
through
us.
Some
of
them
come
for.
You
guys
figure
your
department,
but
so
I'm
glad
to
see
your
address
on
answer
well,.
A
Q
N
I,
don't
have
authority
to
approve
anything,
but
you
know
the
board
does,
but
you
know
as
a
as
a
person
that
represents
our
district.
If
somebody
brings
the
need
to
me,
then
I'll
bring
it
to
you
or
I'll,
bring
it
to
them
or
I'll,
bring
it
to
the
county
manager
or
anybody
have
surely
have
input.
Thank.
Q
A
Do
right,
but
we're
gonna
approve
a
budget.
I
mean
let's
get
through
this,
but
we're
gonna
have
this
discussion
but
there'll
be
a
pool
of
money.
I
think
we
decide
how
much
money
it
is
and
there'll
be
a
set
of
recommendations
that
come
from
this
citizens,
committee
and
staff
and
and
yeah.
We
could
change
them,
but
you
know
I
mean
I
hope
that
we
would
take
the
recommendations
pretty
seriously
so.
C
Q
Did
timeline
I
did
budget
projects.
The
recommendations
here
are
to
align
the
grants
to
the
new
strategic
plan
rather
than
to
what
we've
aligned
to
previous,
which
is
the
strategic
priorities
and
sustainability
plan.
We
are
aware
that
this
year
is
a
transition
year
and
we
may
not
have
a
fully
built
out
strategic
plan
when
the
grant
process
opens,
and
so
we
would
go
with
what
we
know
at
that
time,
and
if
focus
areas
is
what
we
have
so
far,
then
we
would
align
two
focus
areas
rather
than
specific
goals.
Q
There's
been
the
addition
and
I
understand.
There
is
some
conversation
in
the
pre
meeting
today
about
the
second
bullet,
which
is
a
desire
from
the
Board
of
Commissioners
to
see
that
there
is
equity,
equitable
or
balance
between
funding
across
commissioner
districts,
and
there
are
multiple
ways
that
this
could
be
achieved.
Q
Eligibility
there,
these
are
some
changes.
The
recommendation
would
be
to
limit
funding
to
organizations
that
have
been
an
active
operation
for
a
minimum
of
two
years
to
limit
funding
to
no
more
than
three
years
for
a
single
project
and
to
limit
funding
to
less
than
30%
of
an
annual
agency
budget
grant
awards
is
the
next
category.
This
is
not
a
change
from
current
practice.
Performance
contracts
would
be
established
after
the
grants
grant
awards
are
made.
They.
Q
Q
Q
What
is
on
the
screen
is
a
potential
motion.
That's
divided
into
two
sections
we
are.
We
are
aware,
as
staff
that
there
may
be
some
pieces,
that
you
want
to
approve
that
our
committee,
that
include
the
committee
or
don't
include
the
committee
and
so
I
was
asked
to
split
this
so
that
you
could
look
at
it.
As
do
we,
like
the
timeline
budget
projects
eligibility
pieces,
do
we,
like
the
committee
pieces,
I'm,
happy
to
stop
providing
information
now
and
pause?
Q
Understanding
is
that
we
would
continue
to
allow
fiscal
sponsor
relationships.
We
do
have
at
least
one
organization
and
are
currently
funded
portfolio.
That's
the
asheville
Buncombe
Food
Policy
Council
that
doesn't
have
a
standalone,
501,
C,
3
nonprofit
organization
has
partnered
with
one
in
order
to
have
a
mechanism
to
receive
grant
funds.
Okay,.
R
So
I
would
certainly
want
to
hear
some
specific
recommendations
around
and
would
want
there
to
be
some
some
structure
provided,
but
also
enough,
I
think
flexibility
so
that
the
committee
could
be
responsive
to
say,
emergent
issues
showing
up
in
the
county.
That
might
be
impacting
say
one
district
or
community
particularly
hard
at
a
given
time.
So
just
want
to
sort
of
float
that
as
we
as
we
embark
on
our
conversation.
A
Yeah
I
would
I
would
agree
with
that.
I
mean
I
think
that
if
not
the
whole
weight
of
the
the
think,
the
most
important
way
should
be
given
to
the
you
know.
Where
are
the
programs
and
services
being
in
the
Constantine
to
the
people
benefiting
from?
It
is
way
more
important
than
where
is
the
street
address
of
the
organization
located
I
mean
just
to
use
kind
of
a
few
examples
and
I
honestly
actually
don't
know
where
this
organizations
offices,
but
you
think
about
like
Appalachian,
sustainable
agriculture.
A
They
might
have
an
office
in
Asheville,
but
their
mission
is
all
about
protecting
farmland
and
supporting
farmers,
which
would
probably
be
overwhelmingly
in
the
rural
parts
of
the
county
or
land
trust
organization
that
might
have
you
know
so.
There's
different
organizations
that
might
be
located
in
Asheville,
but
their
services
are
all
about.
Maybe
the
more
rural
communities
in
Buncombe
County,
and
that
seems
more
important
than
just
where
your
offices
is
located
to
me.
I.
C
C
N
N
Q
Placed
those
four
bullets
in
they
have
been
affirmed
as
sort
of
the
the
general
categories
or
focus
areas
for
the
county's
strategic
plan.
That's
not
a
strategic
plan
that
has
been
adopted
at
this
point
so
acknowledging
we
are
in
a
bit
of
a
transition
and
should
those
focus
areas
adjust.
We
would
certainly
want
the
committee
to
adjust
accordingly,
so.
Q
Are
different
ways
that
it
could
work?
We
didn't
want
to
be
overly
restrictive
and
say
this
many
seats
per
each
one,
but
as
long
as
we
have
professionals
that
are
representing
expertise
across
all
four
focus
areas,
we
could
become
more
prescribed
about
that.
If
that
were
to
feel
more
comfortable
for
the
Board
of
Commissioners
I.
N
Just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
representing
everybody
in
Buncombe
County,
whether
it
be
a
farm
owner
in
Leicester
or
a
you
know,
a
solar
farmer,
solar.
You
know,
operator
in
Black
Mountain,
whatever
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
that.
So
let's
I
see
that
bullet
point
as
being
a
little
bit
of
a
living
document.
You
know
just
because
you
work
in
a
particular
area.
N
N
Is
broad
I
mean
we
used
to
talk
about?
You
know
ASAP
ASAP,
you
know
we
is
for
funding
a
farm
tour
right,
I
mean
you
know
and
they
seps
goals.
As
a
chairman
said,
you
know
they
have
those
goals,
but
it's
not
a
it's,
not
a
big
amount
that
we
fund
I,
don't
I'm,
not
remembering
a
large
amount
like
five
thousand
dollars,
but
it's
for
a
four
farm
tours
summer
out
where
I
live,
I
mean
I,
think
they're
all
over
the
county.
So
that's
a
reasonable.
N
You
know,
comment,
I,
think
and
so
I
just
have
a
little
bit
of
concern
about.
You
know
making
sure
that
people
on
the
committee
come
from
here
here
here
and
here
you
know
with
that
expertise
because
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
know
a
lot
of
things
about
old.
You
know
what
I
mean:
I
mean
they're,
not
just
one
particular
expert
and
they
can
represent
their
community
very
very
well.
You
know.
That's.
E
A
great
point,
I
think
that
is
certainly
something
that
could
be
addressed
in
the
committee
application
as
we
are
requesting
volunteers
to
serve
on
that.
We
could
I
think
the
staff
could
certainly
dig
in
and
look
at
arranging
the
application
that
way
and
then
that
onus
of
selecting
those
volunteers
will
serve
on
will
fall
to
us
to
choose
them.
So
I
think
we
can
have
some
input
on
that
application
to
address
those
those
concerns.
Commissioner
Belcher
I
mean.
N
You
know
that
people
know
what's
available
and
that
and
and
I'm
not
you
know,
the
commissioners
will
always
have
input
him
and
Commissioner
Whiteside
said
we
have
the
final
vote,
which
is
true
but
I
mean
you
know
my
conversation
earlier
when
I
you
know,
when
I,
when
I
go
to
Ingles
I
promise,
you
people
going
to
tell
me
what
we
ought
to
be
spending
our
money
on.
That's
just
the
way
it
works.
N
If
you're
elected,
official
and
you're
at
the
gas
station
and
you're
running
into
somebody,
you
know
or
they'll
call
you
at
the
house,
and
they
will
let
you
know
what
we
should
be
spending
our
money
on
and
that's
not
and
and
you
need
to
listen
to
them,
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that's
that's
that's
built
into
the
built
into
the
process.
I'm.
Not
talking
about
you
know
necessarily
my
my
input
cuz,
you
know
if,
if
you're
an
elected
official
and
you
have
approval,
then
you
have
an
opportunity
to
give
you
input.
N
D
I
think
what
you've
done
is
good
I
mean
we
sure
we
probably
have
to
tweak
it
some,
but
it's
gonna
be
critical.
When
you
look
at
the
expense
and
everything
that
we're
putting
in
the
strategic
plan,
we've
got
to
make
sure
we
follow
it
and
I
think
to
have
one
person
on
that
from
you
know,
representing
the
different
areas,
who
would
be
an
expert
you
know
would
be
good
to
have
the
advantage,
though,
of
this
community
is
and
I
know
where
you're
coming
from
Commissioner
Belcher
is.
D
S
D
Think
it's
critical,
though,
that
in
setting
this
up
that
we
have
the
right
seats
taken
on
the
bus,
because
if
we
don't
it'll,
be
so
easy
for
this
reports
to
get
off
track
and
in
doing
that
we
got,
and
the
other
thing
is.
When
we
look
at
most
of
your
larger
organizations
and
it
can
unity,
I
can
name
a
few
because
I've
been
on
several
boards,
but
they
take
care
of
every
nook
and
cranny
in
the
county.
D
But
I
don't
want
to
see
the
small
organizations
who
might
be
working
just
in
one
area
to
prove
conditions
and
broad
river
being
left
out
and
I.
Think
we
can
do
that.
You
know
within
this
from
what
I've
you
know
read.
We
can
do
that,
but
I
think
that's
gonna,
be
the
key
to
make
sure
that
you
know
we
do
take
care
of
everybody
and
I
agree
with
what
Jasmine
said.
You
know
we'll
have
a
lot
of
startup
organizations,
people
with
some
good
ideas
and
it
will
be
needed
you
know.
R
A
A
A
C
Q
E
D
Q
Of
resolution,
the
resolution
updates
the
guidance
that
staff
can
look
to
in
terms
of
how
to
operate
our
grant
programs
in
a
way
that
is
standard
across
the
county.
It
says
that
all
grant
programs
must
have
a
clear
process,
that's
published,
that
includes
conflict
of
interest,
guidelines,
etc,
but
it
doesn't
say
what
that
process
should
be
for
any
one
of
the
specific
grant
programs.
N
A
Q
As
a
reminder,
this
was
the
first
slide
that
we
saw.
There
are
two
parts
to
our
conversation.
The
first
part
was
about
strategic
partnership
grants
specifically.
The
second
part
is
a
countywide
resolution
on
overall
funding
of
nonprofits.
To
recap
what
we
talked
about
in
the
last
last
time.
We
got
together
on
this
topic
on
October
15th.
The
reason
for
this
need
is
that
the
current
resolution,
that's
in
places,
is
inconsistent
and
difficult
to
implement
as
written.
Q
So
this
gives
us
as
staff
a
set
of
standards
that
we
can
follow
across
departments,
whether
we're
talking
about
the
community
recreation
grants,
the
affordable
housing
grants
or
the
strategic
partnership
grants.
The
resolution
text
of
the
resolution
is
pasted
here
into
the
slides.
I
won't
read
it
word
for
word,
but
I'll
talk
through
the
different
parts.
Q
Resolutions
begin
with
the
where,
as
is
so,
this
establishes
and
acknowledges
the
county
does
have
multiple
grant
programs
for
providing
public
funds.
That
was
something
that
was
confusing
in
the
previous
resolution,
so
we
wanted
it
to
be
clear
in
this
resolution.
It
acknowledges
the
nature
of
public
funds.
Q
Q
N
Q
Q
This
is
the
item
number
two
that
I
was
referring
to
a
moment
ago.
That's
the
process
that
we're
in
the
middle
of
for
strategic
partnership
grants
defining
what
the
process
will
be
for
that
grant
program,
but
acknowledging
that
for
any
grant
program
we'll
have
a
published
process
that
is
well-defined,
accountable
and
includes
conflict
of
interest
procedures.
So.
Q
It
not
necessarily
the
board
of
commissioners
is
deciding
it
for
the
strategic
partnership
grants
which
has
previously
sat
with
the
board
for
the
example
of
like
juvenile
crime
prevention
council.
That
process
is
written
into
state
statute,
and
so
it's
already
included
Affordable
Housing
Committee
comes
to
the
Board
of
Commissioners
before
the
Affordable
Housing
Services
program
opens
up
and
brings
what
that
process
is
going
to
be
and
then
publishes
it
on
a
different
cycle.
So
each
grant
program
would
have
a
slightly
different
method
for
establishing
what
that
process
is
so.
Q
N
R
O
Q
The
process
will
have
eligibility
criteria,
number
four
states
that
all
grants
will
be
administered
as
contracts.
That
is
almost
all
true
when
one
of
our
grant
programs
is
still
doing
an
award
letter,
but
they're
ready
to
move
to
a
performance
contract
for
the
for
a
community
recreation
grants
and
we've
got
a
plan
in
place
to
be
consistent
across
all
departments
so
that
we
have
equitable
treatment
of
nonprofits
receiving
grant
funds.
Q
This
clarifies
the
financial
assurances
component,
the
board's
previous
resolution,
the
one
that
we
still
look
to
today
says
all
nonprofits
must
provide
an
audit
and
annual
audit
that
is
difficult
to
apply
because
different
sized
organizations
tend
to
have
different
levels
of
financial
assurances,
and
so
this
recommends
keeping
the
open
books
procedure
in
place.
A
keeping
the
tax
filings
procedure
in
place
B,
but
then
C
implementing
a
tiered
structure
so
that
we
request
a
full
audit
for
organizations
with
annual
revenues
of
$300,000
or
greater
a
review
and
there's
language
defining
what
what
constitutes
about
it.
Q
In
a
review
for
the
100,000
to
300,000
range,
a
compilation
for
the
smallest
and
a
waiver
process
for
organizations
if
they're
not
able
to
provide
one
of
the
stated
items
so
that
they
can
request
to
provide
some
other
type
of
third
party
documentation,
such
as
a
bank
statement
to
support
their
internally
prepared
profit
and
loss
or
balance
sheet
financial
statements.
This
is
one
of
the
items
that,
as
we
looked
at
other
communities
and
other
community
county
governments
and
also
other
types
of
funders
providing
nonprofit
grants
that
this
would
be
standard
practice.
Q
Q
S
Q
We
left
in
number
seven
from
your
previous
resolution
around
Commissioner
serving
on
a
board,
and
that
concludes
the
resolution
piece.
So
this
is
a
lot
of
information.
Remember
two
parts,
the
first
part
being
what
changes
would
the
board
like
to
reckon
approve
for
strategic
partnership
grants?
The
second
part?
What
base
level
foundation
do
we
want
to
have
in
place
for
any
County
nonprofit
grant.
A
Q
A
Q
A
A
R
Get
us
started
with
one
of
two
I'd
like
to
make
a
duck
to
move
that
we
direct
staff
to
approve
updates
to
the
strategic
partnership
grants
process
regarding
items
a
and
B
the
timeline
budget
projects
and
eligibility,
and
the
grant
committee
review
and
criteria
as
written
and
with
the
additional
context
and
detail
that
that
staff
would
flush
out.
Second,.
E
R
A
U
A
We
talk
more
people
all
right,
all
right.
Let's
go
ahead,
we're
gonna!
Are
there
any
members
of
the
public
who
wish
to
comment
on
this
motion
and
also
potentially
a
discussion
about
the
nonprofit
guidelines?
Organization-Wide
yeah,
we'll
start
with
you
and
then
we'll
come
to
Robin
you
second
okay,
so
come
on
up
and
to
the
podium
Cindy.
A
V
Name
is
Cindy
McMahon
and
I
am
co-leader
of
Western
North
Carolina
nonprofit
pathways,
which
is
a
funders
collaborative
that
provides
training
and
consulting
in
order
to
strengthen
nonprofits
across
the
18
western
counties.
You
may
also
know
me,
as
a
member
of
the
Buncombe
County
School
Board,
but
I'm
not
wearing
that
nametag
today.
I
just
want
to
commend
you
on
addressing
these
questions,
because
I
think
it
has
been
very
confusing
for
nonprofits
in
Buncombe
County
about
how
to
get
the
money.
Do
we
just
call
Commissioner
Belcher
at
home,
or
is
there
a
process?
V
How
do
we
do
this,
and
so
in
terms
of
fairness
and
consistency
and
clarity?
I
think
this
brings
a
lot
of
light
to
the
process
and
I
really
commend
you
on
that.
The
other
thing
I
just
want
to
bring
to
your
attention
is
that
there
are
folks
in
our
community
who
are
experts
on
in
their
communities
and
doing
that
work.
V
So
if
there
can
be
enough
flexibility
in
the
process
and
as
Jasmine
said
earlier,
the
the
ability
to
work
within
a
fiscal
sponsor
sponsorship
situation,
for
instance,
rather
than
having
to
have
your
own
501c3,
those
kinds
of
opportunities,
bring
a
higher
level
of
equity,
in
addition
to
the
equity
that
you've
been
talking
about
in
terms
of
spreading
it
across
Buncombe
County
and
making
sure
that
all
of
our
communities
are
benefiting
from
this.
So
thank
you
very
much.
All.
W
So
good
evening,
commissioners,
I'm
Robin
Merrill
managing
attorney
at
Pisgah
legal
services,
and
we
have
long
enjoyed
a
beneficial
relationship
with
Buncombe
County
and
it's
taken
many
forms,
and
we
thank
you
for
that.
We
really
see
you
as
our
partners
and
serving
the
residents
of
Buncombe
County
and
we're
one
of
those
organizations
that,
although
our
office
is
on
Charlotte
Street,
our
clients
live
in
every
community
in
this
county
and
I
also
wanted
to
say
thank
you
to
Rachel.
W
She
makes
herself
available
to
us
and
we
really
appreciate
her
help
in
support
and
guidance
in
navigating
your
process.
Also,
I
want
to
say
that
we
welcome
accountability
and
structure
and
reporting
and
we
are
prepared
to
meet
those
requirements.
I
do
have
a
couple
of
questions
and
I
don't
I
know
this
is
not
an
opportunity
for
dialogue,
so
I
don't
expect
you
to
answer
it,
but
a
couple
of
questions,
and
one
of
them
is
how
you
define
a
project
because
there's
a
listing
of
maximum
three
years
funding
per
project.
W
What's
a
project
is
all
of
Pisgah
legal
services,
a
project
or
is
our
fiction?
Eviction,
defense,
a
project
and
also
three
years,
is
that
three
years
of
annualized
funding
is
that
one
three-year
grant
and
I'd
like
to
stand
here
and
tell
you
if
you
give
me
three
years
of
funding,
I'll
make
a
vixen
stop,
but
that's
not
going
to
happen
likewise
with
our
domestic
violence
project
or
our
public
benefits
projects.
W
I
mean
that
things
that
we
work
on
that
are
crucial
to
people's
lives
are
intrinsic
problems
that
I'd
like
to
work
myself
out
of
a
job,
but
I
don't
think
it's
coming
any
day
soon.
So
I
would
just
ask
you
to
reflect
on
that
sort
of
requirement.
You
know
we
certainly
don't
want
to
be
dependent
on
you
or
any
other
funding
source,
but
the
reality
is.
Is
that
funding
for
what
we
do
can
be
hard
to
come
by,
and
so
we
need
it
and
it
allows
us
to
leverage
other
funding.
X
First
off
I'd
like
to
thank
Jasmine
for
asking
for
public
comment.
That
was
a
very
good
move,
appreciate
that
as
I.
Listen
to
this
I
keep
coming
back
to
something
I
told
you
all
when
this
was
on
new
business,
it's
where
the
service
is
given
rather
than
the
dollar
amount,
and
so
you
might
have
some
organization
giving
service
in
Barnesville
that
you
don't
have
anywhere
else
in
the
county,
and
you
might
have
another
organization,
though
in
Fairview
giving
something
to
Fairview.
X
So
you
look
at
your
Equality
own
dollar
amount,
folks,
not
on
service,
but
own
dollar
amount.
I
also
would
suggest
that
you
get
somebody
from
Pizza
legal
involved
since
you're.
Using
these
legal
definitions,
it
might
be
worthwhile
to
consider
that
as
an
option
and
also
I
don't
see
anything
at
all
and
what
I've
said
and
I
believe
this.
You
set
a
dollar
amount
that
you're
going
to
give
to
nonprofits
and
it
stays
that
dollar
amount
period.
End
of
discussion.
You
don't
go
over
it,
you
don't
go
under
it.
X
You
manage
like
a
person,
you
manage
that
and
when
you
pass
all
that
responsibility
off
to
a
committee
committee,
you
all
are
not
doing
your
job
because
you
may
see
something
on
there
that
you
don't
want
to
fund
the
next
year
and
it
needs
to
go
to
this
project.
So
you
tell
this
project
wait
till
next
year
and
we'll
fund
you
because
remember
you
can
only
spend
a
certain
amount,
X
dollars
base
it
on
dollar
amount
rather
than
function,
and
also
it's
so
simple.
I've
said
it
from
day.
X
One
I
want
to
know
where
my
money
is
going.
You
can
do
SARS
and
you
can
do
all
this
accounting
just
let
them
open
their
books.
If
somebody's
not
willing
open
the
books,
why
should
they
get
a
dime
of
a
tax
payers
money
if
they're
not
willing
to
say
how
to
show
you?
This
is
what
we're
doing.
This
is
25%
of
my
funding,
but
my
whole
object
because
your
goal
is
to
take
that
25%
and
get
more
services
than
that
actual
dollar
right.
So
you
need
to
see
the
whole
books
the
whole
plan.
A
M
You,
mr.
chairman
amendment
board,
I'm
really
concerned
about
the
double-dipping
you're
gonna
be
giving
money
out
to
a
certain
amount
of
money,
but
then
you've
got
the
Department
of
Health
and
Human
Services,
where
you're
getting
contracts
that
these
same
organizations
that
are
getting
money
again
are
going
to
be
benefiting
from
as
well.
So
how
are
you
going
to
use
that
as
a
conflict
of
interest
or
either
how
you're
going
to
separate
it
out?
Ethically,
where
one
is
getting
two
pots
of
money
they
contract
with
DHHS
and
that's
a
big
deal.
M
X
M
You
talk
about
kids,
you
talk
about
service
and
you
talk
about
all
that.
But
I
think
this
is
about
as
political
as
you
get
when
you
spend
this
much
time
on
nonprofits,
so
I
hope
we
can
iron
it
out.
I
hope
these
little
people
are
starting
up
and
doing
things
a
lot
of
times.
The
mom
and
pops
have
a
lot
better
ideas,
I'm
these
big
uns
because
they
already
set
in
their
waste.
A
U
A
S
C
A
U
I
mean
I'm,
just
not
following
this
and
I
mean
and
ones
that
spoke
I
think
made
it
more
clear,
nothing
Rachel,
but
I
really
was
not
understanding
them
talk.
The
county
managers
we're
just
passing
this
for
them
to
go
forward
correct
to
look
at
we're,
not
really
yeah,
but
anything
in
ink
right
now
right.
Can
you
explain
that?
Well.
T
But
what
you're
giving
us
tonight
is
the
ability
to
go
forward
and
look
at
a
committee
structure
for
strategic
partnerships,
and
then
we
would
need
to
advertise
for
that
committee
and
get
members
that
I
could
mean
they
bring
those
back
for
you
to
a
point,
but
also
we're
asking
to
mate
to
set.
We
would
bring
back
to
you
what
that
budget
would
look
like,
so
we'll
set
a
specific
pot
of
money.
Our
recommendation
that
pre
meeting
was
that
pot
of
money
is
the
same
amount
that
you
gave
us
last
year.
T
So
you'll
establish
a
budget
for
nonprofits
that
that
committee
will
work
to
allocate
as
well
so
we're
asking
yes
pretty
much
for
guidance
and
direction
tonight.
Can
we
move
forward
with
this
structure,
which
is
a
grant
committee
structure?
What
our
review
process
would
look
like
what
the
criteria
would
look
like,
and
then
we
would
then
craft
the
application
to
make
sure
we
can
get
the
right
people
to
serve
on
that
committee.
Okay,.
U
Yeah,
that's
a
short
version
and
makes
a
lot
more
sense
to
me.
So
you
know
I'm
concerned
about
the
committee
to
I
mean
like
say:
we
need
some
very,
very
intelligent
people
on
that
and
I
would
like
for
that
to
be.
You
know,
interviewed
just
like
anything.
That's
gonna,
be
this
important
to
me.
So
I
can
go
ahead
and
support
going
forward
with
it,
but
I
think
it's
gonna
get
a
little
more
complicated
as
we
start,
though.
Okay.
N
A
R
N
Okay,
if
we
do
not
have
clear
guidelines
on
what
that
committee
is
going
to
include
and
where
they're
going
to
be
specifically
from
I'm
not
going
to
vote
for
it,
however,
I
will
gladly
support
the
resolution.
I,
like
the
resolution,
I
think
the
resolution
has
puts
us
on
the
right
path.
As
far
as
the
the
timeline
I
don't
see
a
problem
with
the
timeline,
the
budget
and
all
that,
and
so
my
understanding
is
that
we
were.
N
N
So
from
each
okay,
so
let
me
give
you
the
problem
with
that:
okay
and
it's
a
big
one:
okay,
yes
number
one.
We
don't
know
where
we're
at
as
far
as
as
far
as
a
state,
we
think
we
know,
but
we
don't
really
know
right
as
far
as
the
districts
we
know
works
well
well,
y'all
know
and
I'm
glad
y'all
know
and
y'all
are
plugged
into
everything.
N
N
Come
on
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
arguing
guys
I,
said
I
said
very
clearly,
so
you've
got
if
the
new
district
is
the
way
it
is
and
y'all
know
this,
because
some
of
you've
had
conversations
with
me
about
this
is
that
the
new
district
splits
a
city
into
three
ways
and
sends
it
out
into
the
mountain
in
the
county.
My
concern
would
be
that
you
could
have
all
nine
members
from
three
different
districts
and
all
nine
members
be
within
the
city
limits
of
Asheville.
Well,.
N
A
A
suggestion
that's
a
valid
question,
but
could
we
just
have
some
language
that
says
that
the
intent
is
to
you
know,
appoint
people
from
across
the
county,
geographically
I
mean
and
you'd
still
have
the
three
districts.
I
think
the
three
districts
is
fine,
but
you
know
some
additional
language
to
make
it
clear
that
I
think
the
intent
is
to
have
broad
broad.
N
With
that
goal,
okay,
so
so,
and
I
don't
and
I'm
all
I'm
saying
guys
is
that
I
could
you
know,
walk
outside
and
get
hit
by
truck?
You
know
which
I
don't,
but
you
know
I
want
to
make
sure
that
these
that
these
things
are
not
based
on
opinion,
they're
based
on
fact,
okay
I
appreciate
how
you
buy
feels
okay,
the
reality
is,
is
that
you
know
there
could
be
different
people
making
decisions
right.
N
Know
as
we
move
along
so
if
I
don't
really
know
what
it
looks
like,
but
you
know,
if
you
know
the
the
the
new
district
one
which
goes
across
the
top
of
the
top
of
the
county.
You
know
if
you
had,
if
you
had
a
representative
from
and
I'm
gonna,
be
very
simple:
okay,
I!
Don't
want
anybody
making
any
cute
remarks.
Okay,
little
you
can
be
on
the
left,
it
can
be
on
the
right.
It
can
be
in
the
middle.
You
don't
talk
about,
the
left
would
be
Lester.
N
The
middle
is,
we
reveal
on
the
right
is
towards
the
barn
or.
However,
we
do
that
I
would
I
would
I
would
support,
because
number
one
it's
gonna
pass
I
would
support
making
sure
that
there
was
language
in
there
that
described
that
representation
in
that
fashion,
for
example,
I'm
gonna
say
this
no
more
hush
is
if
it's
the
district,
three,
the
the
new
district,
three
alignment,
which
would
include
say
upper
harmony.
R
R
B
Liked
what
the
lady
from
physical
link
will
had
to
say
a
minute
ago
right
now.
This
makes
no
sense,
zero
and
trying
to
put
something
together.
That
may
need
twenty
some
pages
of
stuff
to
bring
to
us
in
one
evening.
Well,
two
evenings,
you
gotta,
throw
it
on
the
agenda
last
round,
I'm
not
really
different
to
vote
for
it
because
of
the
fact
is:
there's
a
lot
in
there.
That
needs
to
be
fixed
and
I'm.
Sorry,
there's
a
lot
that
needs
to
be
fixed.
B
We
have
enough
nonprofits
going
at
the
present
time
and
I
said
looked
at
what
we
have
out
there
right
now
and
we
got
a
lot
of
them
and
we
got
a
lot
of
money
out
there.
But
the
fact
is,
you
know
the
nonprofit's
are
working
hard.
Everybody's
working,
hard,
I,
understand
people
that
really
want
it
to
work,
but
everybody's
saying
that
we
have
all
these
people
that
are
geniuses,
an
area
that
can
make
this
work
we're
there.
B
You
know
we're
putting
something
together
tonight
for
the
Pisgah
legal
locks
it
or
they
don't
like
it.
I
like
it
or
I,
don't
like
it.
They
all.
In
pages
to
not
have
made
just
a
little
bit
of
sense,
not
a
lot
just
a
little,
and
it's
taken
it
so
much
time
in
this
room
that
I
feel
so
sorry
for
some
of
the
people
is
sitting
in
here.
That's
waiting
for
an
opportunity
to
speak
on
something
different.
N
E
I
say
a
few
things:
well,
the
more
reviews
that
I,
as
you
all
know,
I've
spent
my
entire
career
in
the
nonprofit
sector
as
an
executive
director
and
a
professional
fundraiser.
This
was
based
completely
on
industry
best
practice
and
what
other
granting
organizations
do.
So
we
didn't
totally
recreate
the
will
on
this.
E
Z
R
N
A
Other
comments
on
the
motion
I'll
just
make
one
last
one
I'm
supportive
of
it.
I
think
that
this
is,
although
I
have
mixed
feelings,
honestly,
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
pros
and
cons
to
having
these
decisions
made
by
your
elected
officials.
I
think
I
think
we
do
listen
a
lot
to
the
community
in
a
way
that
you
know
it's
just
different
I
mean
running
for
election.
A
I
think
we
need
to
try
something
new
I'm
willing
to
try
it
and
one
of
my
biggest
one
of
my
biggest
concerns,
though,
is
that
I
think
when
you
look
at
the
organizations
that
are
currently
funded
under
strategic
partnerships,
many
of
them
are
long-standing
our
organizations.
We
have
long-standing
relationships
with
that.
Do
have
missions
and
programs
that
will
not
be
gone
in
three
or
four
years,
and
this
is
exactly
what
PES
go
legal
eagles
point
with
and
there's
many
others
on
the
list.
A
So
I
think
we're
just
gonna
have
to
look
at
that,
because
I
think
if
we
implement
the
policies
as
as
outlined
here,
you
know
most
of
those
organizations
will
lose
funding
in
a
couple
of
years
for
what
they
do
and
I
think
that
would
be
a
mistake,
but
we've
got
some
time
to
evaluate
it
in
and
modify
it
over
time.
So
we
don't
have
to
figure
out
all
of
it
tonight.
All
in
favor
of
the
motion,
please
say:
aye
aye.
AB
E
E
A
There's
a
motion
and
second
to
approve
the
resolution
regarding
guidelines
for
nonprofit
funding,
any
further
discussion
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye,
any
opposed
all
right,
all
right
thanks!
Everyone
is
work
on
this.
We
appreciate
it
and
we
will
forward
okay
next
up
under
new
business
is
internal
audit,
bonus
approval
requests
and
Tricia
Burnett
will
present
this
item.
AC
The
only
way
to
address
that
is
to
call
it
a
bonus,
but
is
this
essentially
a
retroactive
pay
for
the
interim
work
she
performed
as
internal
audit
director?
If
that
makes
sense,
this
is
above
an
amount
that
the
county
manager
can
approve
without
your
your
approval.
So
that's
why
I'm
before
you
today,
any
questions.
A
A
motion
in
a
second
thank
you
very
much,
and
you
know
I,
would
just
want
to
comment
on
this.
This
is
not
a
lot
of
money,
but
the
reason
that
we
do
this
is
that
in
the
past
there
were
a
lot
of
bonuses
that
were
handed
out
that
we're
not
done
appropriately.
So
we
have
a
policy
that
any
bonuses
must
be
approved
by
the
Commission
and
open
public
meeting,
and
that's
and
that's
why
we're
doing
that
this
evening.
So
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye,
thereby
any
opposed
all
right.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
G
G
Just
as
a
reminder
of
the
service
area,
county
support
is
requested
to
cover
the
additional
operating
costs
to
be
incurred
by
the
city
of
Asheville,
and
that
would
be
to
operate
the
extension
from
January
5th
2020
through
June
30th
of
2020.
We
would
expect
that
the
city
would
provide
us
detailed
operating
statistics
about
the
the
service
that
it's
performed.
Stop
usage,
on-time
performance,
those
sorts
of
things.
There
is
a
recommended
motion
and
the
mechanism.
G
We
would
recommend
that
we
use
to
ride
that
funding
would
be
their
ascending
of
5307
grant
funds
which
we
have
access
to,
but
cameras
into
the
city
as
an
exchange
for
that
service
for
the
six-month
period
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
We
do
have
the
presentation
a
few
slides
available.
If
you
want
to
see
the
maps
there
again
or
any
other
information
from
the
last
presentations
just.
A
Put
the
map
up
on
the
screen,
just
so
for
folks
who
may
not
have
seen
it
before
we'll
kind
of
see
the
specific
location
we're
talking
about.
Okay,
thank
you
very
much,
that's
a
lesser
highway
and
the
blue
line
is
the
new
extension
further
out
beyond
the
city
limits.
Yes,
all
right
great!
Thank
you
all
right,
commission
discussion
or.
E
S
A
AD
Good
evening,
commissioners,
chairman
Newman,
this
is
also
an
extension
of
something
we
brought
to
you
all
at
the
at
the
last
pre
meeting.
I
won't
belabor
the
point
on
too
many
of
these
slides,
since
most
of
them
are
a
little
repetitive.
You've
seen
these
before,
but
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
some
quick
updates
and
we
are
requesting
board
action
at
the
end
of
this
presentation.
AD
Just
a
super
quick
update
and
what
we've
been
doing
to
assess
our
facilities,
working
with
our
maintenance
staff.
Looking
at
that,
our
facilities,
their
age,
their
roof,
their
shade,
their
orientation,
their
energy
intensity,
all
those
things
assessing
the
structural
components
of
the
building,
looking
at
solar
design
and
and
then
the
actual
financial
impact
budget
estimates
and
the
return
on
investment
for
some
of
these
projects.
AD
As
an
aggregated
group,
we've
got
several
partners.
The
city
of
Asheville
is
also
a
part
of
this
process.
They've
identified
10
sites,
that's
about
one
megawatt
of
capacity,
a
BTEC,
since
our
last
update
has
actually
added
eight
additional
sites
and
requested
that
we
do
an
analysis
on
those
sites.
I
hadn't
wasn't
able
to
update
this
before
it
was
due
to
be
presented
to
you,
but
since
last
week
the
City
and
County
schools
have
also
given
us
a
list
of
sites
to
assess
for
them
as
well.
So
just.
C
AD
AD
As
I
presented
last
time,
this
is
the
results
of
our
internal
analysis
and
the
14
sites
that
we've
personally
identified
they're
County
owned
that
we
can
move
forward
with
that,
our
facilities
that
make
good
sense
for
solar,
several
libraries
transfer
station
animal
shelter.
So
again,
we've
we've
gone
over
this
list
before
the
preliminary
budgets
that
we
came
up
with
also
the
size
of
the
systems.
Again,
I
need
to
stress
that
these
are
preliminary.
AD
What
we
essentially
did
was
some
solar
design
work
to
determine
what
the
size
of
the
systems
would
be
and
then
make
some
calls
to
a
few
developers
to
get
some
basic
estimates
on
what
they
thought.
Those
systems
would
cost
it's:
a
total
of
1.2
megawatts
on
14
facilities
and
a
cost
of
approximately
2.9
million
dollars.
Again,
that's
a
preliminary
budget.
AD
Solutions
include
the
cost
of
installation,
potentially
the
cost
of
operation
and
maintenance
of
the
system's
over
the
lifetime
of
the
systems,
because
this
project
has
gotten
bigger
over
the
last
several
weeks,
we've
gotten
several
more
sites,
so
we're
looking
at,
but
the
potential
for
implementing
this
award
in
phases.
If
necessary,
we'd
like
to
be
able
to
have
that
as
an
option,
we
want
to
open
it
up
for
additional
alternative
construction
plans
and
additions
for
things
like
just
bright
ideas
like
installations.
For
you
know,
solar
plus
storage,
just
as
an
option.
AD
AD
What
would
it
look
like
to
debt
finance
that
system
install
our
financing,
so
we
want
multiple
options
on
the
table
for
the
the
potential
way
to
move
forward
with
those
systems,
so
we're
asking
for
that
as
a
part
of
the
RFP
process
and,
of
course,
we're
requiring
payment
and
performance
bonds.
You
all
know
that's
essentially
just
sort
of
an
insurance
for
the
for
the
county
and
the
expected
useful
life
of
these
systems
is
essentially
30
years.
AD
So
our
next
steps
we've
got
to
complete
the
analysis
of
all
these
new
sites.
So
we
got
a
lot
of
work
ahead
of
us.
We're
gonna
confirm
any
additional
partners.
We
have
had
some
folks
reached
out
to
us
in
addition
to
the
school
systems
that
have
expressed
interest,
so
we're
going
to
sort
of
move
forward
and
see
if
they
have
an
interest
in
continuing
on
with
that
partnership,
see
if
we
they
need
some
site
analysis
done
as
well,
we're
going
to
continue
to
refine
that
RFP
language
again.
AD
Our
goal,
obviously
to
bring
to
you
today,
is
board
action
for
approval
of
issuance
of
the
RFP
once
all
the
site,
analysis
that
are
complete,
we're
gonna,
try
and
get
those
site
analysis
done
by
the
end
of
the
calendar
year
issue
the
RFP
sometime
in
the
month
of
January
and
then
give
several
weeks
of
opportunity
for
bidders
to
ask
questions.
Go
through
the
process,
potentially
bring
that
back
to
the
board
sometime
in
March
and
recommend
you
know
entering
into
contract
negotiations
with
a
successful
bidder.
So
all
that
work
to
go
as
planned.
AD
We
could
potentially
see
some
boots
on
the
ground
so
to
speak
by
by
the
spring.
Again,
that's
a
little
more
aggressive
than
it
was
two
weeks
ago,
given
we've
gotten
quite
a
few
more
sites,
but
we're
gonna
work
as
hard
as
we
can
to
get
those
things
done
as
quickly
as
possible,
so
that
we
have
all
the
information
we
need
to
move
forward.
N
How
do
you,
how
do
you
see
the
facilities
analysis
that
we're
doing
on
the
buildings
working
in
with
this?
We
certainly
don't
want
to
put
solar
on
a
building.
We're
planning
on
replacing.
We
don't
want.
To
put
you
know,
solar
in
episode,
one
parking
lot
covers
and
I
think
you
pulled
that
out
right,
correct.
AD
Yes,
we
did
initially
have
two
potential
canopy
sites
on
surface
Lots.
We
have
removed
those
from
the
RFP
for
several
reason.
I
think
you
mentioned
one,
that's
really
important,
and
that
is
for
potential
infrastructure
growth
and
when
we
have
built
things
on
parking
lots
in
the
past
and
since
space
is
at
a
premium.
That
is
something
we
did
consider
as
well
as
frankly,
the
fact
that
those
types
of
canopy
systems
are
incredibly
high-end
and
very
expensive
and
sort
of
drive
the
overall
cost
of
the
projects
up
pretty
significantly.
AD
So
it
made
it
a
little
as
a
package
deal
a
little
bit
less
of
an
attractive
financial
option.
So
we
did
remove
those
and
yeah.
We
are
really
focused
on
only
those
projects
that
make
the
most
sense.
So
we've
that's.
Why
we've
gone
through
so
much
of
the
due
diligence
upfront
to
determine
you
know
making
sure
that
they're
structurally
sound
that
the
roofs
are
either
very
new
or
in
very
good
condition,
and
we've
had
structural
engineers
go
out
to
these
roofs
and
certify
them.
AD
N
Know
if
you're
bringing
the
schools
in
at
our
last
and
our
last
meeting,
we
had
actually
had
school
capital
Commission
meeting.
We
had
quite
a
bit
of
conversation
about
roofs.
Mm-Hmm
about
you
know,
roof
replacements,
sure
I
would
think
we're.
Gonna
have
to
be
really
careful.
Is
there
a
reason
why
we
have
to
do
all
of
this
at
one
time?
Well,.
B
B
AE
A
C
B
C
A
AD
Think
I,
actually
I
can
probably
answer
that
to
a
certain
degree.
So,
just
as
an
example,
one
of
our
one
of
our
current
projects
is
the
landfill
gas
to
energy
project,
which
we
sell,
that
energy
back
to
Duke
Energy
on
the
grid,
it's
about
a
1.3
megawatt,
so
it's
pretty
close
to
a
megawatt
and
they
they
estimate
that
now,
there's
some
debate
as
to
how
you
come
up
with
these
numbers.
But
they
asked
me
that
to
power
about
1,100
homes.
So
if
that
gives
you
kind
of
a
general
sense
for
what
one
megawatt
can
do.
M
B
AD
No,
it
would
essentially
be
an
offset
of
our
own
usage.
We
wouldn't
actually
be
selling
anything.
So
when
you
net
meter
a
system,
you
essentially
tie
it
to
the
meter
of
the
building
and
what
it
would
do
is
offset
any
usage
from
that
building.
So
if
you
have
a
building
that
uses
a
thousand
kilowatt
hours,
you
had
a
system,
a
solar
panel
system
that
created
500
kilowatt
hours.
You
would
essentially
only
pay
Duke
for
the
500
kilowatt
that
you
know
you
didn't
create
yourself
just.
A
To
make
the
distinction
between
the
land,
the
project
on
the
retired,
landfill
and
I
think
all
of
the
installations
in
this
RFP
for
public
for
public
facilities,
the
landfill
project,
a
hundred
percent
of
the
electrical
output
of
that
system
will
be
delivered
on
to
Duke's
electrical
grid,
and-
and
you
know,
the
owner
of
the
system
will
be
paid
for
the
sale
of
that
power.
But
all
of
the
facilities
in
this
RFP
are
actually
for
direct
on-site
use.
A
So
the
solar
electricity
that's
generated
is
directly
utilized
in
the
public
facilities
that
they're
located
on
or
adjacent
to.
So
every
kilowatt
hour
they
generate
is
a
kilowatt
hour
say
at
the
county
or
the
other
public
entities
don't
have
to
purchase
from
from
Duke
Energy,
and
if
you
do
need
additional
power
because
it's
a
the
building
needs
more
power
or
it's
nighttime
or
whatever.
You
can
still
still
buy.
Whatever
additional
powers
needed
correct
from
Duke,
but
the
the
energy
generated
will
literally
be
used
in
our
public
facilities.
AD
That
is
correct
and
we
did
not
design
the
vast
majority
of
these
systems
to
cover
100%
of
the
electricity
use
of
a
given
facility.
We
wanted
to
leave
at
least
some
wiggle
room
in
there
for
improved
energy
efficiency
of
our
facilities
as
well,
because
we
don't
want
a
system
that
is
larger
than
the
peak
demand
of
that
particular
facility.
No
okay.
Yes,
that
is
exactly
right.
We
it'll
it'll
offset
our
usage.
We
won't
be
selling
anything
back
to
Duke
will
just
be
purchasing
less
from
Duke
and
using
renewable
energy
to
power
things.
A
Commissioners
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
issuance
of
the
solar
RFP,
all
right.
There's
a
motion
and
a
second
any
other
questions
or
comments
before
we
open
the
public
comment,
all
right
and
and
I
guess.
I'll
just
make
one
other
comment
before
we
do.
We
do
we
do
go
forward
on
this
I
appreciate
all
the
work
that's
gone
into
it
from
our
staff
and
I
know.
Staff
at
other
public
organizations
have
been.
You
know
getting
engaged
in
this
as
well.
A
I
think
it's
I
think
it's
exciting
that
we
have
an
initiative
where
the
city
and
the
county
and
our
public
schools
are
working
together
on
this.
We
could
all
do
it
on
our
own,
but
I
think
by
by
doing
it
together,
working
together
as
hard.
It
always
takes
more
work.
It
does
make
things
more
complicated,
but
I
think
in
this
case
it's
gonna
result
in
a
project.
That's
going
to
be
much
more
impactful
and
you
know,
and
the
other
thing
I
would
say
you
know
we
don't
have
the
we
don't,
have
the
answers
back.
A
So
we
don't
know
what
the
we
don't
know.
What
the
costs
are
gonna
be
what
the
different
financing
options
are
going
to
be.
Yet
you
know
the
landfill
project.
Duke
is
financing
that
project,
so
the
county
actually
doesn't
have
to
put
any
capital
into
that
project
to
build
that
five
megawatt
project
we're
actually
just
leasing
the
land,
so
the
county
just
generates
money
from
that
project.
From
the
start,
this
project
will
probably
look
different,
but
there
are.
There
are
definitely
different
options
to
consider.
A
So
we
will
see
we'll
see
what
comes
forward,
but
the
reality
is
is
that
for
at
least
for
our
for
our
own
buildings
and
for
our
public
schools
and
a
BTEC,
the
county
invests
millions
of
dollars
a
year
in
paying
the
utility
bills
for
those
organizations
and
for
our
own
organization,
so
just
business
as
usual.
We're
spending
four
or
five
million
dollars
of
taxpayer
money
just
to
keep
the
lights
on
and
the
HVAC
systems
running.
A
So
we're
going
to
be
investing
lots
of
money
in
paying
energy
costs
and
organizations
next
year
and
over
the
next
decade
and
over
the
next
many
decades
and
so
I
believe
you
know,
I'm
very
optimistic
that
we're
going
to
get
back
from
this
RFP
proposals
that
show
that
we're
gonna
be
able
to
procure
through.
Whichever
of
these
financing
options,
we
end
up,
selecting
we're
gonna,
be
able
to
procure
clean,
renewable
energy
at
a
cost,
that's
very
competitive,
with
procurement
of
traditional
fossil
fuel
energy,
as
we're
doing
it
today,
I'm
very
excited
about
it.
A
I
also
say
that
when
we
look
at
the
cut
the
policy
goals
that
we
said
just
for
ourself
our
goal
of
getting
the
county
to
100%
renewable
for
own
operations,
if
we
look
at
the
total
megawatts
that
we
think
we'll
get
to
in
this
RFP,
it's
a
you
know,
it's
a
modest
step.
There's
gonna
be
we
still
have
a
lot
of
other
things.
A
We're
going
to
need
to
do
just
to
get
to
our
own
government
goal,
but
but
you
know
it's
getting
to
that:
100
percent
goal
you
have
to
get
started,
and
so
this
is
gonna
be
a
big
step.
We're
all
gonna
learn
a
lot
about
this
as
an
organization
for
how
to
do
these
kind
of
projects
and
how
to
manage
them.
But
this
is
just
the
first
step
of
many
that
we
are
gonna
need
to
take
as
a
counting
organization
to
get
to
this.
A
U
Where
we
at
right
now
brownie
the
county
buildings,
didn't
we
talk
about
this?
Last
year
we
was
at
15%
or
I.
Think.
A
That
I
think
that
I
think
we
need
Jeremiah.
Please
correct
me:
I,
probably
some
of
this
wrong
I'm
kind
of
rounding
numbers
I
think
we
need
about
20
megawatts
to
get
to
the
county's
goal
for
our
own
operations,
so
the
landfill
project
on
our
retired
landfill
gets
us
about
five
megawatts.
So
we
get
this
about
25
percent
of
the
way
and
that's
really
the
project
that
we
have
underway
currently.
So
this
is
kind
of
the
next
set
of
projects
that
we
would
start
on.
Well,.
B
B
That's
the
way
you
make
your
living
and
that's
you
know
it's
plain
and
simple
you're
sitting
in
the
same
meetings,
I
sitting
in
this
shouldn't
even
be
in
here
right
now,
because
we
all
sit
in
the
same
meeting
staff
commissioners
that
was
this
was
not
on
a
plan
period.
There's
no
way
to
get
to
100%
period,
I,
don't
care
what
you
say:
Jason!
B
Let
him
put
a
solar
panel
in
jail
over
here
and
then
go
turn
the
power
off
and
see
window
generator.
Fires
up,
it'll
run
all
the
time.
So
we
can't
get
there
with
what
they're
trying
to
do.
I'm.
Sorry,
I,
want
it
to
work
and
I.
Think
everybody
that
once
solar
should
have
it
I
think
this
is
it
to
us
people
that
come
from
the
flatland
and
moved
up
here
to
decide
and
they
went
through
the
business.
B
They
made
a
lot
of
money
now
all
they
do
is
go
out
and
tell
people
you
need
solar
and
we're
doing
this
solar
farm
down
here,
but
we're
not
making
anything
off
of
it.
You
know,
I,
don't
have
it.
It's
not
something
that
I'm
part
of
yeah,
your
brownie.
You
brought
it
forward.
You
told
him
everything
he
needed
to
know.
I've
got
the
emails.
He
come
out
of
finance
he'd
become
a
genius
quickly.
Didn't
he
so
I'll
be
voting
on
this
for
a
simple
fact:
it
can't
work.
B
You
know
you
can
bring
all
of
the
people
that
want
stuff
the
schools
I'm
on
the
board
at
a
BTEC.
They
have
no
money,
where's
that
you
know
Buncombe
County,
where
they
get
their
money
from
us.
So,
while
we're
going
to
look
at
all
that
stuff,
when
we
don't
have
the
money,
you
know,
why
run
these
people
in
the
county
and
debt?
We
have
people
sitting
this
audience
all
night
worried
about
how
to
get
their
trash,
can
down
the
hill
and
then
we're
sitting
here
talking
about
three
million
dollars.
B
Maybe
you
know
we
got
solar
panels
in
a
school
down
here,
half
the
time
in
the
summertime,
it's
it's
hot
until
the
evening
and
in
wintertime
it's
cold
until
the
evening.
So
it's
not
working
really
that!
Well,
so
you
know
if
somebody
can
come
up
with
a
better
idea.
You
know
if
Duke
wanted
to
pull
out.
You
know
it's
like
you're
saying
we
can
buy
from
somebody
else,
but
whose
lines
are
you
going
to
use
to
get
it
in
here?
I
think
they
own
the
lands.
You
know
and
I
did
talk
to
him
about.
B
He
said
all
this
would
go
to
the
thing
brownie.
You
can't
even
utilize
we're
going
to
sell
that
down
a
solar
farm
down
the
river,
we're
selling
it
it's
going
into
lands
and
it's
going
to
take
care
of
the
community,
not
just
Buncombe
County
buildings.
It's
going
to
take
care
of
the
community,
so
don't
bring
it
up,
but
that's
going
to
be
10%
of
anything
because
it's
not
you
know,
five
megawatts,
it's
probably
a
pretty
big
solar
farm
and
thank
them
for
doing
I.
B
A
A
A
AF
Thank
you.
My
name
is
Maeve
Goldberg
I'm
a
senior
at
Asheville
high
school.
Thank
you
for
giving
me
this
time.
Today's
speak
with
you
on
behalf
of
my
classmates
at
Asheville,
high
school
and
at
salsa
and
the
organization
youth
for
environmental
stewardship,
which
is
a
coalition
of
all
the
nine
public
high
schools
in
the
area
as
well
as
UNCA.
My
high
school
Asheville
High
has
shown
a
dedication
to
meaningful
climate
action.
Two
years
ago,
we
delivered
nearly
600
signatures
of
support
to
both
the
Buncombe
County
Commissioners
and
the
Asheville
City
Council.
AF
When
you
were
deciding
on
whether
or
not
to
pass
the
100%
renewable
energy
resolution.
Asheville
High
School
student
government
association
passed
a
climate
action
resolution
as
a
way
to
publicly
acknowledge
and
communicate
our
commitment
to
addressing
climate
change
with
solutions
that
work
for
us
in
our
schools.
Asheville
High
School
has
also
shown
leadership
on
a
global
scale
when
we
won
the
global
draw
down.
Eco
Challenge
competition
in
April
of
2018,
a
competition
that
was
rooted
in
individually
based
solutions
to
reverse
global
warming.
AF
Your
youth
have
demonstrated
our
commitment
to
quickly
and
effectively
addressing
climate
change,
not
because
we
think
it's
fun
or
easy,
but
because
it's
necessary.
We
now
want
to
see
the
same
strong
commitment
from
our
government.
Our
futures
are
at
stake
and
without
concrete
action
from
those
in
power
today,
we
may
not
have
the
chance
to
achieve
our
dreams
in
for
tomorrow.
Joining
us
request
for
proposal
is
just
one
of
many
steps
that
must
be
taken
to
preserve
our
world,
but
it
is
a
big
one.
AF
Our
County
uses
an
enormous
amount
of
energy
and
currently
that
energy
is
supplied
mostly
by
fossil
fuels,
but
solar
energy
provides
a
clean,
efficient
and
cost-effective
alternative.
This
proposal
will
help
the
county
get
the
lowest
price
per
kilowatt
hour
for
utility-scale
solar
installation
and
have
the
best
financing
options.
Solar
energy
will
pay
for
itself
over
time
and
then
save
money
that
can
be
sent
spent
on
other
projects.
Solar
is
the
gift
that
keeps
on
giving
for
the
last
month.
I
and
my
peers
across
the
city
and
county
have
fiercely
advocated
for
this
solar
energy
proposal.
AF
Now
both
the
Asheville
City
and
Buncombe
County
school
board's
have
agreed
to
join
this
request,
which
I
see
is
an
incredible
first
step
in
helping
to
achieve
the
100%
renewable
energy
goal
by
2030.
We
now
ask
you
to
do
the
same.
The
choices
that
you
make
today
will
affect
your
youths
lives
in
the
future
and
so
I'm
delivering
570
signatures
to
you
from
Asheville
high
to
ask
you
to
please
move
forward
with
the
proposal
and
the
information
gathering
process.
The
yes
members
also
have
more
signatures
and
petitions.
AE
Thank
you
all
for
having
me
so
my
name
is
Spencer
Terry
I'm,
a
senior
at
the
Nesbitt
Discovery,
Academy
and
I
also
have
a
speech
written
about
this
issue,
so
we
are
looking
at
an
exciting
future.
The
iPhone
12
or
the
dozen
will
be
coming
out
in
early
2020.
The
first
manned
mission
to
Mars
is
set
to
take
place
in
2025.
The
world's
tallest
building
should
be
completed
next
year
and
without
immediate
and
appropriate
action
by
2050
ocean
levels
will
threaten
six
of
the
world's
eight
largest
cities
in
agricultural
hubs.
AE
Temperatures
in
Southwest
Asia
will
reach
such
extreme
levels
that,
as
many
as
100
million
climate
refugees
will
be
forced
to
flee
their
homes.
Populations
of
the
world
will
continue
to
increase
as
far
as
it
can.
Since
disdain
excuse
me,
and
by
the
time
it
cannot
there'll
be
nowhere
for
10
billion
refugees
to
turn
we're
here
today
to
address
the
future,
and
nobody
wants
to
look
to
the
future.
Nobody
is
excited
for
and
the
future.
We
continue
to
create,
not
a
future.
AE
Only
people
far
down
the
line
when
we
need
to
contend
with,
but
a
future
that
our
children
will
need
to
contend
with
a
future
that
I
and
my
peers
will
need
to
suffer
through
in
which
that
something
had
been
done.
While
the
chance
was
still
there,
it's
not
a
future.
It's
the
future,
and
now
it's
time
to
do
something
about
it.
We
are
not
on
a
runaway
train,
we're
behind
the
wheel
of
a
car.
We
are
the
drivers
here.
Now
is
our
chance
to
change
the
trajectory.
It's
our
chance
to
steers
towards
a
brighter
future.
AE
For
Humanity,
solar
power
is
the
push
we
need.
Solar
power
is
a
key
to
this
brighter
future.
We've
already
gone
to
Asheville
and
Buncombe
County
Boards
of
Education,
and
requested
that
they
join
the
solar
initiative
for
this
request
for
proposal
for
solar
bidding
to
all
positive
results.
If
Buncombe
County
takes
these
first
steps
to
becoming
a
hundred
percent
renewable
and
the
world
follows
the
tides
of
this
destruction
can
stopped
and
in
a
decade
utility
costs
will
be
cut
remarkably
and
the
funds
of
which
can
be
directed
towards
education
or
continued
betterment
of
the
world.
AE
The
question
today
is
about
the
residents
of
Buncombe
County,
but
the
effects
of
this
decision
will
weigh
on
the
entire
world.
Now
is
the
time
to
incite
change.
This
is
why
solar
panels
should
be
incorporated
as
fast
as
they
can
be,
and
I'm
also
here
to
present
218
signatures
from
the
Nesbitt
Discovery
Academy.
You
say
it
can't
be
done
and
I
say
not
with
that
attitude.
AI
Good
evening,
commissioners,
my
name
is
Eric
Bradford
I
am
a
Candler
resident,
and
tonight
I
usually
know
me
as
Asheville
burr
Greenworks,
but
tonight
I'm,
just
a
plain
old
citizen
and
I
have
a
tremendous
swell
of
pride
for
these
students
who
got
together
who
pulled
these
petitions
by
themselves.
This
was
just
there
they're
doing
they
wanted
to
put
this
together
because
of
how
much
this
means
to
them
this.
These
are
your
next
constituents.
These
are.
N
AI
These
are
the
guys
these
are
the
people
who
are
going
to
be
expecting
a
little
bit
more
out
of
Buncombe
County
people
come
here
because
they
expect
more
from
our
area
as
a
native
I've,
seen
a
tremendous
amount
of
change
and
a
tremendous
amount
of
positive
change
in
this
area,
and
it's
coming
from
from
this
group
right
here
and
speaking
of
change
from
the
community
I've
got
a
hundred
and
four
signatures
from
the
community
who
support
this
RFP.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
P
T
AJ
Hi
I'm,
Judy,
Maddox
and
I
am
with
youth
for
environmental
stewardship.
We
have
been
together
now
for
three
years,
as
you
heard
earlier
on
two
years
ago,
we
presented
to
respectfully
you
are
when
you
pronounce
when
you
passed
your
hundred
percent
renewable
energy
resolution.
Last
year
we
presented
to
Asheville
City
when
they
passed
their
resolution
and
now,
as
you
heard,
we've
gone
to
both
school
boards
and
both
school
boards
have
voted
yes
to
our
yes,
students,
I
am
here
representing
also
Sierra,
Club
and
Audubon.
We
have
256
signatures
together
with
all
of
us.
C
AK
AL
Hi,
my
name
is
Sally
Tim's
with
the
sunrise
movement
and
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
speak
tonight.
I
would
also
like
to
say
that
I'm
here
in
solidarity
with
just
economics
and
strongly
support
the
transition
to
solar
through
the
solar,
RFP
and
I
appreciate
the
support
that
some
of
you
have
shown
for
it
tonight,
I'm
here
to
demand
that
Buncombe
County
take
bold
and
radical
action
on
the
climate
crisis
and
the
injustice
we
face
here
in
North,
Carolina
and
across
the
world.
AL
We
are
already
seeing
the
effects
of
climate
change
and
they
are
not
slowing
down.
In
fact,
they
are
becoming
more
rampant
and
drastic
every
single
day.
The
IPCC
report
that
came
out
earlier
this
year
detailed
the
necessity
of
drastically
cutting
down
our
emissions.
The
timeline
laid
out
in
the
report
was
terrifying.
If
we
do
not
transition
to
clean
energy
and
begin
to
sequester
the
carbon
dioxide
in
the
atmosphere
in
the
next
10
years,
we
will
have
lost
our
chance
to
reverse
the
climate
crisis.
These
are
the
top
scientists
in
the
world.
AL
They
know
what
they
are
talking
about.
Far
more
than
you
or
I.
The
science
is
clear.
We
must
listen
to
it
and
we
must
take
action.
Solar
is
scalable
and
getting
cheaper
to
implement
every
day.
The
monetary
costs
of
the
RFP
are
nothing
compared
to
the
physical
risks.
The
climate
crisis
place
every
day,
driven
by
fossil
fuel
energy.
There
is
no
time
to
wait.
We
must
begin
a
rapid
transition
to
renewable
energy
and
divest
from
fossil
fuels
immediately.
The
city
and
county
are
in
the
pocket
of
Duke
Energy
and
must
break
free
from
their
monopolies.
AL
In
order
to
move
Buncombe
County
swiftly
to
clean
energy,
we
must
invest
in
cleaner,
more
accessible
transit,
as
transportation
accounts
for
around
30
percent
of
our
emissions.
This
transition
must
happen
by
2030,
a
transition
like
the
one
we
are
calling
for
would
instill
hope
in
the
people
of
North
Carolina
and
prove
to
other
burgeoning
cities
that
we
can
be
the
progressive
leader
we
often
claim
to
be.
Buncombe
County
is
faced
with
two
things:
a
crisis
and
an
immense
opportunity.
AL
We
could
create
well-paid
and
equitable
jobs,
while
proving
that
our
county
has
the
integrity
and
efficacy
to
do
what
is
right.
We
need
a
plan
that
accurately
responds
to
the
dangers
and
the
pace
of
the
climate
crisis.
Change
is
frightening.
The
thought
of
changing
business
as
usual
is
scary
and
anxiety
inducing,
but
the
facts
of
what
will
happen
if
we
don't
are
so
so
much
worse.
AL
AM
Hello,
my
name
is
Alex
lines
I'm
also
here
with
the
sunrise
movement
and
I,
am
also
here
in
solidarity
with
just
economics,
I
appreciate
everything
that
the
students
of
HS
and
Reynolds
etc.
Just
said
in
support
of
the
passing
of
the
RFP
I
would
like
to
say
that
we
absolutely
need
to
do
this.
I
appreciate
those
of
you
who
have
taken
lead
on
this
and
who
are
championing
this
cause
as
many
of
the
young
people
in
this
room
have
said
tonight.
AM
AM
AM
AM
Now
more
than
ever,
we
need
bold
leadership
from
people
like
you.
We
need
our
city
and
county
governments
to
stand
up
for
our
right
to
a
dignified
and
livable
future.
We
need
to
make
a
comprehensive
climate
action
plan
that
will
keep
our
community
safe.
As
we
face
the
reality
of
this
crisis,
we
must
take
bold
leadership
and
build
sustainable
communities
and
passing
the
RFP
is
a
great
first
step.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
All.
A
AN
Hi
there,
my
name
is
Chloe
Moore
and
I'm.
Also
with
the
sunrise
movement.
Surprise
I
want
to
tell
you
about
something,
really
important
that
happened
today
today,
November
5th
2019
over
11,000
scientists
got
together
from
all
over
the
world
and
they
published
a
scientific
art
article
declaring
a
climate
emergency
that
was
today,
and
they
didn't
do
this
to
make
money
or
to
gain
political
power.
They
did
this
because
the
way
we
are
living
is
putting
our
whole
world
in
danger,
and
the
science
is
extremely
clear.
AN
The
climate
emergency
jeopardizes
the
lives
and
safety
of
all
people,
and
that
certainly
certainly
includes
us
here
in
Buncombe
County
to
be
able
to
provide
for
the
people
of
Buncombe
County.
It
is
your
responsibility
to
take
big,
ambitious
action,
especially
towards
renewable
energy.
We
need
to
move
towards
solar
energy,
and
this
could
be
a
huge
step
forward.
This
is
not
undoable.
This
is
necessary,
and
not
only
is
this
necessary,
but
it
is
not
enough.
This
motion
is
not
enough.
AN
X
Well,
let's
get
out
of
the
clouds
just
for
a
minute
and
talk
about
the
proposal.
First
and
foremost,
I
think
it
is
a
very,
very
ambitious
goal
that
is
being
crammed
down
your
throats
and
the
goal
is
too
fast
and
too
short
and
too
quick
and
I
think
I
heard
him
say
we
could
put
enough
on
top
of
the
building
to
exceed
the
peak
demand
of
that
building.
But
we
wanted
to
give
the
building
an
area
to
have
to
improve.
You
know
to
really
reach
the
goal.
X
Well,
if
you
can
put
more
than
the
building
needs
in
top
of
the
buildings,
why
don't
you
put
it
on
there
and
we'll
sell
to
that
monopoly
over
there,
Duke
that
they
just
referred
to,
that
we
are
doing
business
with
at
the
landfill
Thank
You
monopoly.
Appreciate
it
very
much
so
bottom
line.
Is
it's
very
obvious
that
some
people
up
there
on
that
board?
Don't
like
public
comment
on
this
is
comment
that
they
have
instead
is
stimulated
and
brought
here
and
tonight
we
have
seen
exactly
why
we
had
someone
on
that
board
up
there.
X
X
Let
them
see
that
great
tape
year
in
great
Tennessee,
that
roamed
over
there
it's
about
8,
9,
10
foot
long
and
then
they
go
to
solve
with
Virginia
you
never
been
to
solve,
with
Virginia
up
on
81
and
you'll,
see
woolly,
mammoths
and
mastodons
that
all
these
creatures
that
lived
where
it
was
cold
folks,
global
warming
is
not
global
warming.
Its
climate
change
and
I
had
the
privilege
of
attending
the
last
global
warming
conference
in
Chicago
Illinois,
where
the
hockey
stick
model
was
proven
not
to
be
true,
and
they
changed
the
term
to
climate
change.
X
Science
does
not
give
you
the
world
in
the
Hanten
basket.
The
reason
we
went
to
the
moon
was
because
we
had
a
computer.
It
was
Newton
physics
that
sent
us
to
the
moon,
but
we
didn't
have
enough
sense
to
be
able
to
calculate
it.
Can
you
see
calculating
was
a
slide
roof?
How
many
even
know
what
a
slide
rooms
like?
Can
you
see
him
sitting
around
with
slide-rule
trying
to
calculate
how
they
go
to
get
to
the
moon?
X
It
was
the
computer
that
got
us
to
the
movies
that
can
make
the
calculations
fast
enough
to
get
us
there.
So
anytime,
they'd
like
to
have
a
guest
speaker
at
their
clubs,
I'm
more
than
willing
to
come
I'll
be
glad
to
come
and
bring
some
facts,
and,
like
I
said
now,
we
see
why
people
play
politics
with
an
issue
because
that's
the
reason
you
all
wanted
to
move
public
comment
to
the
beginning
of
the
meeting.
AO
My
name
is
Daniel
DeWitt
I
live
in
Woodfin
I'm
also
with
the
sunrise
movement.
Thanks
for
hearing
me
appreciate
the
initiative
and
taking
solar
from
those
who
believed
in
it.
I
want
to
say
a
few
things.
Solar
might
protect
our
future,
but
it's
not
the
future.
This
is
a
technology
that
has
existed
for
a
long
time.
Jimmy
Carter
put
solar
panels
on
the
roof
of
the
White
House
before
Reagan
took
them
back
off.
So
it's
been
a
proven
technology
for
a
long
time.
AO
I
also
don't
think
that
finances
is
really
an
excuse
dollar
for
dollar
weighing
solar
panel
versus
fossil
fuels.
If
you
look
at
the
externalities
of
fossil
fuels,
you
have
increased
health
spending
from
the
children
getting
asthma
from
the
pollution.
You've
got,
fires,
you've
got
floods,
hydraulic
fracturing
can
ruin
our
water
that
we
all
drink
in
is
we
can't
get
anymore
fresh
water,
it's
if
there's
money
for
exorbitant
CEO
and
executive
pay
stock,
buybacks
from
Duke
Energy,
there's
money
to
embrace
something
that
it's
a
long-term
commitment
commitment.
AO
That's
what
planning
is
about
is
about
looking
at
long
term
spending
and
return
on
investment,
which
is
a
conservative
value.
I
think
this
should
be
embraced
and
isn't
really
going
far
enough
at
all,
but
it
is
important
to
take
first
steps
to
say
the
symbol
to
acknowledge
the
science
that
we
all
understand
is
to
be
true.
You
could
find
a
few
articles
that
would
conflict
with
that
and
look
at
you
know
who
is
paying
for
that.
AO
It's
probably
someone
from
ExxonMobil,
probably
someone's
from
British
Petroleum
like
there's,
there's
dark
money
that
are
funding
these
anti
science
opinions
as
well
the
global
consensus.
The
global
consensus
is
that
this
is
real.
It's
happening
also
about
climate
change.
Yes,
there
are
cycles
in
the
earth.
The
timescale
is
not
any
more
close
to
the
time.
That's
happening
right
now,
we're
also
in
the
first
time
period
where
temperatures
are
increase
before
carbon
is
increasing
in
the
atmosphere
in
the
past.
AO
A
N
N
Creationists
have
different
opinions,
have
different
different
beliefs,
however,
I
do
believe
in
stewardship
of
the
planet.
It
was,
in
my
opinion,
gifted
it
a
gifted
to
us
by
God
Almighty,
and
so
what
I
want
to
do
as
an
official
is
balance
that
with
practical
decision
and
an
RFP,
all
it
does
is
go
out
and
try
to
find
out
how
much
this
is
going
to
cost
right
and
then
it'll
come
back
and
then
we'll
be
able
to
take
a
look
at
it
in
a
practical
fashion.
N
N
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
that
you
know
I
think
we're
going
to
have
to
be
careful
as
we
look
at
each
of
the
buildings
we're
going
to
have
to
make
sure
that
that
we
do
have
the
best
technology
we
do
have
the
best
price
and
that
we
are
putting
it
in
the
best
places
and
I
think
that
part
of
the
RFP
should
should
address
that
when
it
comes
back
and
hopefully
we
will
be
able
to
have
a
good
discussion
about
it.
So
I
will
be
supporting
the
RFP.
D
Sure
I
would
like
to
thank
the
kids,
the
young
people
for
coming
out
tonight
and
expressing
your
opinion,
because
what
this
reminds
me
of
is
when
I
was
a
student
in
high
school.
This
would
have
been
almost
60
years
ago
folks.
But
when
we
went
to
a
city
council
meeting
here
in
Asheville
complaining
because
we
had
as
african-americans
to
go
to
the
back
of
the
bus
we
couldn't
eat
at
lunch
counters
in
Asheville,
which
we
change.
D
We
didn't
give
up,
but
don't
take
this
in
a
negative
way,
continue
to
fight
for
what
you
believe
in,
because
what
we
are
leaving
behind.
But
it's
gonna
be
up
to
you
to
correct
it
and
to
clean
up
the
mess
that
my
generation
and
the
ones
before
me
are
leaving.
You
know
for
you,
but
continue
your
fight
and
continue
to
stand
up
for
what
you
believe
in
and
I
will
be
pulling
put.
Rfp
I.
R
Chime
in
briefly
and
say,
I'm
also
proud
to
support
this
tonight
and
want
to
thank
everyone
who
came
to
speak
in
support,
especially
the
student
leaders.
The
most
powerful
movements
in
our
world
have
often
been
led
by
my
youth.
So
never
let
anyone
tell
you
that
nothing
anything
is
impossible.
It's
not
and
I
want
to
thank
chairman,
Newman
and
Jeremiah
for
the
hard
work
on
this,
and
also
the
community
partners
who
are
all
coming
to
the
table
around
this
and
I
think
very
exciting
ways.
U
Guess
I'm
next,
in
line
I
won't.
Thank
you,
kids
for
coming
out
and
I
agree
with
what
Commissioner
Al
Whiteside
said:
y'all
we're
gonna
clean
up
our
mess
that
we
made
and
our
ancestors
but
I
want
y'all
to
think
about
one
thing:
if
you
believe
in
what
you're
reading
the
paper
you
see
on
the
internet
and
everything
who's
going
to
clean
these
solar
panels
up
in
20
years
from
now,
if
you
believe
the
paper
they're
1
million
square
foot
building
in
California,
they
cannot
get
rid
of
these
solar
panels.
I
am
NOT.
U
A
solar
expert
at
all.
I
know
the
Sun
comes
out.
It
will
sunburn,
you,
the
wind
will
give
you
wind
burn
and
the
clouds
make
you
dreary
and
when
it's
cloudy
you
get
no
energy
I
have
to
listen
to
brownie.
He
is
a
solar
and
you
know
I,
just
I
guess
I
just
hate
to
hear
it.
I'm
gonna
support
this
RFP
because
I
believe
in
it
I,
don't
believe
in
a
hundred
percent
I'd
like
to
hear
75
percent
or
80.
U
If
we
do
a
hundred,
it
is
amazing
to
me
a
hundred
percent
of
anything,
but
whenever
someone
says
I
want
to
thank
brownie
but
brownie
says
he's
not
involved
in
this,
that
you
know
that's
a
speaking
both
ways
and
I'm,
not
Bernie,
I
appreciate
what
you're
doing
we
all
want
renewable
energy.
We
want
clean
water,
I
want
my
kids
grandkids
and
their
kids
to
love
this
area,
but
I
also
want
to
be
very
smart.
B
Well,
I
guess:
I'm,
a
long
guy
on
the
ship
again
I
was
in
the
Navy,
so
was
album.
I
was
in
San,
Diego
I'd
look
out
every
morning
across
the
ocean
at
an
island.
If
he
could
see
it
it's
a
good
day
if
he
couldn't
smog,
so
it
stayed
smoggy,
probably
35.
40
percent
of
the
time
get
up
more
than
you
look
out
and
say
smog.
You
know
a
lot
of
people
called
a
father,
but
he
wouldn't
and
San.
Diego
is
now
supposed
to
be
under
water.
That
was
in
1963
1963.
B
So
everything
that
you
read
or
people
tell
you
it's
not
exactly
what
you
need
to
be
hearing
I'm,
not
a
I'm
for
solar
I
got
a
friend.
It's
got
solar
panels
on
he's,
building
his
house
and
got
a
farm
and
and
and
make
some
money
with
a
little
money
with
it
very
little.
But
that's
why
he
wanted
to
do
for
the
tax
breaks.
A
lot
of
people
do
it
for
tax
breaks
and
a
lot
of
people
utilize
it
in
other
areas.
But
okay,
everybody
gets
at
at
Tesla.
Well,
it
has
to
have
power.
B
Well,
if
the
natural
gas
is
not
there
to
generate
power,
what's
the
what's
going
to
be
there
if
it's
not
a
solar
panel,
what
are
you
going
to
generate
power
into
this
test?
Let
it
go
down
the
road,
it's
totally
electric.
You
know,
I
know
you,
you
think
I'm
old
and
senile
that's
okay,
but
the
fact
is:
I
drove
a
natural
gas
little
car
for
30,000
miles
now,
I'm
driving
a
propane
car.
You
know
we're
not
going
to
get
everybody
into
electric
cars
period.
B
It's
not
going
to
happen
and
this
hundred
percent
is
never
going
to
happen.
You
know
and
I'm
with
Robert
if
they
made
it
50%
or
60%.
I
could
probably
go
along
with
this,
but
when
you
look
right
now,
solar
panels
in
the
United
States,
do
anybody
in
the
audience
know
how
much
generates
power
that
we're
getting
from
them
today
raise
your
hand
if
you
do
1.8%
1.8%
now,
how
are
we
gonna
get
200%
here?
If
you
only
got
one
point,
eight
percent,
you
know
whole
United
States,
that's
not
good.
B
Finland
spent
five
hundred
and
some
billion
dollars
now
they're
having
to
go
back
to
natural
gas,
because
Sun
Goes
Down
says
Mr
Presley
says
when
it
goes
down.
You
have
no
power
and
you
know
that's
what
I
see
a
young
man
shaking
his
head.
Hey,
you
won't
get
power
if
you
don't
have
sunshine,
but
that's
okay
too,
but
the
fact
is
one
point:
eight
percent
solar
energy
in
the
United
States
of
America
today.
B
That's
basically
what
I
pulled
up
and
I
look
and
that's
what
it
basically
says
so
Oh
Michael
everybody
can
vote
for
this
resolution
be
brought
back,
but
we
don't
have
enough
facts
to
bring
it
back.
You
know
everybody's
following
the
deal
that
we're
going
to
be
gone
in
ten
years,
I
go
out
here
and
I'd
love
to
look
at
these
mountains.
It's
not
like
San
Diego,
where
you
couldn't
see
the
island
but
I
love.
B
Looking
at
these
mountains
and
I'm
proud
to
look
at
the
mountains
because
it
is
cleaner,
it's
clean,
you
know:
we've
gone
a
long
way
with
the
pollution
of
engines
to
be
able
to
to
see
that,
but
we're
putting
in
more
interstates.
That
means
they're
going
to
be
more
people
coming
through
there
and
I
understand.
Sierra
Club
wrote
a
whole
crew
up
here
and
you
know
good
for
them,
but
the
fact
is
is
everything
is
not
in
that
respect?
B
I,
probably
have
you
know,
used
up
too
much
time
which
I
shouldn't,
but
I
can't
vote
for
it,
because
a
simple
fact
is
bringing
something
to
me
telling
me
that
they're
going
to
do
stuff
at
these
schools
and
stuff
these
schools
don't
have
any
money,
so
somebody's
going
to
have
to
tell
me
how
they're
gonna
get
it
a
BTEC,
Icefall
I
know
it's
gonna
come
out
of
these
people's
pockets
setting
out
here,
not
all
the
instance
as
old
as
I
am
we're
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
get
to
people
there's
trash
out
of
this
county,
and
that's
you
know
the
one
thing
about
it
and
putting
them
on
the
end
of
the
list
and
have
to
go
through
this
I'm.
A
Alright
thanks
everyone
for
your
for
your
input.
Let's
make
a
couple
of
last
comments
and
then
we'll
vote
on
this.
Sorry,
one
is
that
you
know
we
do
have
a
long
way
to
go.
North
Carolina.
However,
we
already
get
about
six
percent
of
our
power
from
solar
energy
in
North
Carolina,
so
it's
we've
got
a
long
way
to
go,
but
actually
North
Carolina
over
the
last
seven
or
eight
years
has
actually
been
outside
of
the
state
of
California
a
lot
larger
state
to
North
Carolina
lots,
stronger
solar
resources
and
much
more
expensive
electricity.
A
We've
had
more
solar
installed
in
North
Carolina
than
any
other
state
in
the
country,
so
we're
already
providing
leadership
on
this.
The
the
challenges
that
we're
not
scaling
it
up
at
the
rate
that
we
need
to
to
address
the
the
climate
crisis.
So
that's
what
we
have
to
look
at
is
how
do
we?
How
do
we
scale
it
up
here
in
Buncombe,
County,
I'm,
very
proud
that
we've
set
this
100
percent
renewable
goal.
I
want
to
thank
all
the
people
who
have
fought
for
that,
and
it
won't
be
easy.
A
You
know
we're
not
Eastern
North
Carolina.
We
don't
have
tons
of
cheap
flat
land,
so
we
have
to
look
at
our
rooftops.
We
have
to
be
creative.
We
have
to
look
at
our
landfills.
We
have
to
look
at
brownfields
we're
gonna.
You
know
this
will
in
some
ways
I
think
it's
more
doable
than
then
some
of
the
skeptics
think
is
probably
harder
than
some
of
the
people
who
are
who
are
so
eager
to
see
it
happen
think
it
will
be.
A
But,
as
folks
said,
it's
the
important
thing
is
that
it's
necessary
it's
necessary
to
protect
the
safety
of
future
generations
and
that's
our
first
duty.
If
it's
not,
if
that's
not
our
first
duty,
what
as
we,
what
are
we
as
elected
officials
doing
so
and
then
the
one
last
comment
I
want
to
make
you
know
in
terms
of
the
importance
of
the
public,
the
the
renewables
for
public
sector.
A
I
think
is
a
great
place
to
prioritize
and
the
other
thing
you
know
we
gave
ourselves
10
years
to
get
to
the
county's
100%
renewable
goal.
I
think
we
can
do
it
I
think
we
can
do
it
ahead
of
schedule
and
I
think
the
county,
exercising
leadership
to
show
that
if
you
set
these
goals,
that
sounds
so
tough
to
get
to,
but
actually
do
it
and
do
it
in
a
way,
that's
physically
responsible
and
do
it
ahead
of
schedule.
It's
one
of
the
best
contributions
we
can
make
to
to
the
climate
movement.
A
So
thanks
everyone
again
for
being
here
tonight
and
all
in
favor
of
the
motion,
please
say:
aye
hi
I
know
all
right
all
right
thanks.
Everyone
for
being
here
all
right-
we've
got
more
to
do
on
the
waste
Pro
items
so
I'm
commissioned.
Do
you
want
to
take
a
five-minute
break
before
we
move
on
to
the
next
time
or
keep
going
keep
going
all
right
all
right,
we're.
B
A
AP
Been
a
little
while
it's
good
to
be
here
with
you,
I
wanted
to.
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Fryer,
for
the
comments
you
made
earlier.
Cody
Gillespie
was
the
the
worker
that
was
killed
last
week
and
our
hearts
thoughts
and
prayers
go
out
to
his
family.
Just
a
tragic,
tragic
reminder
of
how
dangerous
our
industry
is
across
three
collections.
AP
Transfer
material
recovery
facility
landfill
across
the
board
is
fraught
with
dangers
and
I'm
very
appreciative
of
all
the
efforts.
Our
solid
waste
team
waste
pros
teams
put
out
every
day
to
help
keep
our
community
safe
so
and
obviously
the
safety
impacts
for
the
new
contractor
thought
about
as
we
as
we
structured
that,
and
that
is
the
topic
of
conversation
this
evening.
The
residential
waste
and
recycling
collections
contract
in
the
unincorporated
areas
of
Buncombe
County.
AP
We
are
proposing
tonight
some
contract
amendment
language,
and
this
is
in
response
to
citizen
feedback
and
concerns
that
we
as
staff
have
received
as
well
as
this
board,
and
we
have
staff
has
worked
with
waste
probe
to
identify
viable
options
and
we're
here
today
to
discuss
a
couple
of
of
these
contract
amendments
targeted
to
better
serve
our
communities,
and
we
will
roll
right
through
and
talk
about.
The
first
proposed
change-
and
this
is
pertaining
to
the
bear-resistant
cart
options.
AP
So
this
is
this
is
language
that
we've
we've
worked
to
help
identify
with
the
waste
probe
based
on
a
lot
of
the
concerns
we
heard
a
lot
of
bear
country
around
so
I
think
it's
a
positive
step
moving
forward
and
we
were
happy
to
propose
that
language
to
provide
subscribers
additional
options
there
and
please
note
the
schedule
impact.
This
will
be
about
a
two-week
scheduled
impact,
because
waste
Pro
will
be
going
back
out
with
robo
calls
informing
subscribers
of
the
the
option
to
be
able
to
lease
these
containers.
AP
AP
So
the
language
in
the
contract
for
premium
service
is
a
maximum
up
to
25
dollars
a
month.
These
are
folks
that
don't
necessarily
qualify
for
the
backdoor
service
through
a
doctor's
note
program.
So
that's
the
demographic
this
is
targeted
for
is
you
know,
seniors
with
low
income
that
we
can
help
subsidize
that
$25
premium
service
per
month
in
exchange
to
allow
waste
Pro
to
be
eligible
for
the
$4
per
ton
rebate
program
with
with
attorneys
it's
collected
in
this
residential
contract.
AP
We
estimate
an
approximate
value
of
$210,000
for
this
program
based
on
the
premium
service
and
the
the
amount
of
subscriber
700
is
the
amount,
the
pertaining
to
that's
the
maximum,
and
it
is
a
first-come,
first-serve
program
and
we
will
be
working
that
the
applications
will
actually
flow
begin
equation.
Sorry,
beginning
at
solid
waste,
so
applications
filtered
through
US,
Health
and
Human
Services
team.
That
has
worked
with
us
to
help
to
find
these
parameters
and
they
will
be
helping
us
evaluate.
The
information
is
provided
from
the
subscribers
to
help
determine
eligibility.
AP
So
the
next
slide
we're
going
to
talk
about
some
of
the
draft
affidavit
here
and,
as
we
talked
about
the
these,
are
these
are
protective
box
functions,
obviously
with
a
subscriber
verifying
that
I
am
65
years
of
age
or
older.
My
household
income
is
less
than
150%
or
participation
in
a
federal
public
assistance
program
and
also
verifying
that
the
subscriber
does
not
already
qualify
or
participate
in
the
backdoor
doctor's
note,
Danny
didn't
move
sorry
about
that,
rewind.
AP
AP
AQ
What
we're
doing
now,
if
you
can
go
to
the
first
one
for
your
forward
max
so
in
this
particular
situation
for
premium
service.
I'm.
Just
trying
to
put
some
cooperation
in
between
the
county
and
waste
Pro
to
include
language
that
were
there
situations
where
the
dual
actual
trucks,
the
automated
trucks
really
can't
provide.
The
service
contractor
shall
notify
the
County
Solid
Waste
Director,
as
designee
and
in
such
situations
become
evident.
Contractor
and
county
shall
cooperate
in
conducting
a
site
assessment
and
reached
an
agreement
as
to
the
acquired
level
of
service.
AQ
So
that
might
be
a
holler
where
there's
10
residents
up
there.
Waist
Pro
and
solid
waste
might
be
able
to
go
up
and
discuss
with
them
how
the
best
provide
service,
maybe
one
of
those
small
special
pickup
trucks.
It
wouldn't
necessarily
be
$25.00
in
the
normal
course.
It
might
be
$10.00
per
household
if
they
do
the
whole.
So
that's
one
element
of
what
the
contract
changed.
We
would
like
the
board
to
consider
and
that's
separate
from
the
rebate
information
that
Dane
was
just
discussing.
Second
change
for
the
next
slide.
AQ
In
addition
to
this
service
option
cost
thereafter,
the
lease
rate
would
match
the
normal
rate
that
others
subscribe
would
be
paying
and
current
subscribers
must
request
a
qualifying
trading
from
waste
road
before
December
31st.
The
last
change,
if
you
can
go
one
more
you're
ahead
of
me
max,
is
in
ten
point
two
for
rebates.
So
again,
this
is
for
700
subscribers
based
on
Danes
programs
and
calculation
of
what
his
budget
will
allow
for
the
county's
elderly
low-income
discount
program.
AQ
So
this
would
be
available
in
the
first-come,
first-served
basis
as
outlined
in
the
affidavit
or
eligibility
form.
It
would
apply
to
those
persons
who
do
not
qualify
for
the
waste
Pro
doctor's
note,
which
would
be
disabled
and
no
able-bodied
person,
but
it'd
be
for
65
years
of
older,
greater
or
less
than
150%
of
the
poverty
level
or
recipient
of
federal
public
assistance,
and
we
have
helped
with
HHS.
The
form
is
not
final
at
this
point,
because
we
need
to
go
through
the
technicalities
of
having
proper
language
and
release
on
the
backside
of
that
form.
AQ
So
if
we
have
to
have
verification
through
HHS
there's
an
auditing
procedure
in
process
within
the
department
so
that
they
can
make
that
allowance,
so
those
are
the
three
changes.
We're
asking
the
board
to
approve
at
this
time
and
as
I
indicated,
it's
not
part
of
the
ordinance,
so
the
board
can
approve
it
at
this
time
we
can
make
an
amendment
which
ways
pro
and
their
group
have
approved,
and
there
was
discussion
at
the
pre
meeting
about
or
we're
gonna
follow
up
with
this
program
or
we're
gonna
check
to
see.
AQ
What's
happened
in
three
months
or
six
months.
So
if
the,
if
the
board
is
willing
and
I
think
I
believe
we
need
a
verification
from
waste
Pro,
we
could
add
provision
to
the
rebate
section.
That
would
say
that
the
parties
agree
to
review
the
effectiveness
of
of
the
elderly,
low
income
discount
program
for
subscriber
eligibility
and
benefit
on
an
annual
basis.
That
way,
we
could
see
if
the
700
level
mark
works
if
that
needs
to
be
contracted
or
expanded,
because
currently
we
don't
know
how
many
people
are
going
to
take
advantage
of
the
waste
probe.
AQ
Doctor's
note
or
handicapped
information
and
do
whatever
verification
waste
Pro
is
going
to
require
that
they
have
no
other
able-bodied
person
able
to
carry
it.
We
don't
know
how
many
people
will
be
eligible
for
that.
Likewise,
we
don't
know
how
many
people
who
may
be
eligible
will
reply
for
this
rebate
program.
So
that's
what
we
are
attempting
to
do
to
fill
the
couple
holes
and
concerns
that
we've
heard
here
recently
and
be
happy
to
try
to
answer
any
questions.
If
you
have
them.
AQ
R
AQ
I
think
it's
easier
to
say
if
you
think
in
a
premium
service
and
how
this
might
work,
where
it's
the
dual
trucks,
don't
necessarily
work
and
that
this
process
is
going
on
informally
now,
because
I
know
our
our
staff
and
waste
Pro
staff
for
a
meeting
on-site
at
various
areas
and
saying
well,
what
can
we
do
to
accommodate
this
situation?
Okay,.
R
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
think
these
are
some
of
the
folks
that
we're
hearing
from
and
I
wanna
make
sure
I
can
give
good
information.
So,
in
a
scenario
like
this,
where
there's
not
a
good
clean,
obvious
fit
on
the
first
pass,
so
then
the
county
staff
and
waste
prayer
meeting
on
site
to
assess
what
options
exist
and
the
residents
are
being
informed
of
those
options
and
then
can
select
to
participate
in
the
option.
That's
available
or
again
can
select
to
opt
out
of
waste.
Pro.
Okay,.
AQ
Think
there's
been
some
confusion,
honestly
from
my
view,
as
descriptions
in
the
contract
in
the
RFP,
where
okay,
you
have
to
place
your
your
bends
down
by
the
mailboxes.
Well,
in
many
situations
it
takes
that
site
evaluation
from
the
county
staff
and
wastes
Pro
staff
say
well.
You
know
we
can
make
it
work
with
this
truck
or
it's
actually
wide
enough
to
have
an
automated
truck.
So
it's
not
automatic
and
everybody's
willing
and
able
to
work
with
these
with
the
customers
as
best
they
can.
AQ
D
AR
Yes,
sir
good
evening
on
that,
the
reason
why
they're
the
least
the
least
plan
is
as
it
is,
is
we
take
care
and
maintain
the
can
throughout
the
entire
time
of
the
service?
And
so
that's
why
there
is
that
option
that
you
can
purchase
the
can
if
you
like
there
is
that
option,
but
for
us
to
maintain
it.
AR
You
know
just
like
for
right
now,
for
example,
we
charge
like
thirty
eight
dollars
just
for
a
delivery
or
removal,
and
so
you
know
there
is
a
service
fee
to
go
out,
and
there
is
a
service
fee
to.
You
know,
make
a
service
at
someone's
residence,
but
with
the
lease
option
there
is
no
service
fee,
so
that
helps
us
cover
our
cost.
During
that
period
of
time
you
know
the
beer
carts
are
much
more
labor-intensive.
AR
C
AR
D
U
U
U
I
mean
I,
don't
wanna
make
nothing.
No
more
complicate
everything
you
know.
Y'all
have
been
over
backwards,
but
in
ours,
I
think
what
I
was
trying
to
say
is
after
five
years,
if
they
I
look
at
it,
they
have
the
option
to
renew
a
new
bear
proof
or
waste
Pro,
give
them
that
one
and
say
you're
responsible
for
the
wheels
and
the
lids
and
everything
now
is
that
kind
of
where
you
is
going
down.
So.
U
C
U
Talked
about
this
a
whole
lot,
but
boy
I
tell
you:
we
need
to
dot
every
I
and
cross
every
T
here
and
and
y'all
have
bent
over
backwards.
I
know
and
we've
listened
and
the
people
or
listening,
but
I
kind
of
think
I'd
like
to
see
a
little
bit
more
about
you
pay
for
that
trash
can
five
hundred
and
seventy
dollars
a
$300
can
that
it
all
be
their
responsibility
or
they
renew
the
lease
if
they
want
to
keep
that
can
I
mean
I,
mean.
N
The
other
thing,
though,
I
mean,
if
you
lease
anything
you're
you're
I'm,
paying
I'm
paying
for
your
ability
to
use
your
cash
may
not
use
my
cash.
It's
just
like
leasing
a
car
if
I
go
lease
a
car
which
I'm
not
going
to
do
because
I
like
to
own
them,
you
know
is
at
the
end
of
that
lease
you're
on
it,
but.
U
AR
U
A
AK
AS
Commissioners,
my
name
is
terry
Finch.
First
I
would
like
to
offer
our
condolences
to
the
family
of
the
waste
Pro
employee,
who
is
involved
in
an
accident
this
past
week.
Now
we
want
to
urge
this
commission
not
to
approve
the
first
change
proposed,
which
is
the
modification
to
article
a
section.
Six
point:
one
point:
four
of
the
franchise
service
contract
with
waste
Pro
because
of
the
negative
financial
impact
that
it
would
have
on
the
residence
of
Buncombe
County
waste
Pro
has
over
forty
four
thousand
subscribers
in
Buncombe
County.
AS
Now,
at
the
cap
rate
of
$25
per
month
for
the
premium
service,
this
amounts
to
two
million
six
hundred
and
forty
thousand
dollars
per
year,
which
will
be
the
financial
burden
that
for
Buncombe
County
residents
will
have
to
bear
that's
in
addition
to
the
nineteen
dollars
and
21
cents
that
they
have
to
pay
for
the
basic
service
if
they
reduce
the
fee
to
say
fifteen
dollars
per
month
for
a
premium
service.
This
still
amounts
to
one
million
five
hundred
and
eighty
four
thousand
dollars
per
year
of
a
financial
burden
to
Buncombe
County
residents.
AS
AB
X
Because
they
do
have
to
pay
the
tip
feet
when
they
pick
the
stuff
up,
so
you
got
it.
You
got
to
figure
that
in
and
that's
one
things
we
need
to
ask
them.
They
can
tell
you
what
it
is.
Probably
you'd,
be
surprised
what
it
comes
from
nothing
buried
in
the
landfill.
But
my
comment
has
something
to
do
about
what
this
board
and
politics
can
do
when
I
call,
the
d-o-t
and
I
ask
them
to
lower
the
speed
limit
on
Jupiter
Road
to
35,
because
it's
very,
very
highly
developed
now
and
I'd
appreciate
it.
X
They
fight
him
for
being
on
the
wrong
side
of
the
road
right.
Yep
they've
got
to
stay
in
their
Lane,
so
this
is
an
issue
that
area
the
elected
officials
need
to
address.
A
garbage
truck
is
a
service
truck
just
like
a
fire
truck
and
all
those
kids
that
was
here
this
left
most
of
them
have
they
want
to
get
rid
of
the
garbage.
X
So
we
need
to
figure
out
a
way
to
solve
that
problem.
That's
one
man
broke
up
real
bad
and
one
man
killed
by
drivers
flying
on
the
road.
When
they
see
a
trash
truck,
they
should
treat
it
like
a
highway
patrol
car.
They
should
slow
down
shouldn't.
So
guess
who
can
do
that?
You
all
start
pushing
to
get
that
legislation
done
in
Raleigh
that
a
trash
truck
is
just
like
a
fire
truck
and
let
them
have
a
light
or
whatever
it's
necessary
and
require
it
so
that
we
don't
get
anybody
else,
killed.
X
AT
Good
evening
my
name
is
Justin
McVeigh
I'm,
your
district
wildlife
biologist
for
North
Carolina,
Wildlife,
Resources
Commission
I
get
about
600
calls
a
year
about
bears.
The
story
is
always
the
same.
I've
got
bears
getting
into
my
garbage
cans.
Bird
feeders
I've
got
kids,
you
know,
can
you
come
relocate?
These
bears
and
so
I've
learned
a
lot
about
trash
cans
in
the
past
little
good.
That's
part
of
my
little
spiel
is
remove
your
bird
feeders.
AT
Put
your
garbage
up,
get
a
bear
proof
trashcan,
so
excited
about
waste
Pro
and
the
trash
cans
a
little
concerned
about
the
purchase
option,
most
cans
that
you
buy
come
with
a
warranty,
so
I'm
not
sure.
If
that
warranty
will
transfer
from
re-rig
to
the
person
that
buys
that
can
I'm
guessing
that's
what
the
lease
option,
which
is
really
a
rent
option,
is
it's
kind
of
doing
regardless.
AT
AU
Hi,
my
name's
Meg,
Trowbridge
and
I
live
at
the
end
of
shunts,
Cove,
Road
and
I
didn't
really
expect
to
talk,
but
but
we've
been
having
waste.
Pro
come
pick
up
our
trash
since
1997
I
think,
and
it
doesn't
seem
like
there's
been
that
much
trouble
except
for
bears,
and
now
all
of
a
sudden
they're
saying
that
it's
going
to
cost
extra
money
the
premium
charge
to
you
know
to
come
up
the
same
driveway,
the
same
road
that
they've
been
coming
up
for
the
last
over
20
years
and
so
I'd
like
to
I.
AU
You
know
you
guys
are
under
this
premium
charge
deal
and
you
now
have
to
pay
all
this
extra
money
so
I
it
doesn't
seem
like
all
these
eyes
have
been
dotted
and
the
t's
have
been
crossed
about
all
the
issues
involved.
I
mean
what
the
people
here
are
of
the
Miyoung
ggest
in
our
neighborhood
I'm,
64
and
I'm,
one
of
the
younger
people
and
trying
to
get
those
big
new
trash
cans
down
the
road
and
back
up
the
road.
AU
You
can't
get
it,
we
can't
I'm
not
strong
enough
to
get
it
in
my
car
to
take
it
down
to
the
end
of
the
road
it's
about
a
quarter
of
a
mile,
so
it
just
seems
like
there's
this
arbitrary.
You
know
decision,
oh
you
won't.
We
can't
come
up
your
road
anymore
and
our
neighborhood
is
very
upset
about
it.
So,
thanks
for
listening.
Z
I'm
trying
to
think
of
a
little
bit
lighter
way
to
attack
this
I.
Don't
know
how
you
guys
put
up
with
this
I
mean
it's
the
first
time
you've
ever
seen
me
here,
but
how
you
can
stand
nice
like
there's
got
to
be
a
little
bit
tough,
so
I
thought
I
might
drop
a
couple
of
tips
about
you
know,
bears
and
garbage
cans.
They've
been
really
tough
on
me.
You
know,
and
I
spend
most
of
my
Thursday
nights
stuff
and
garbage
and
they're.
Z
You
know
into
two
pails
right:
I
got
blue
garbage
and
white
garbage
and
blue
stuff
gets
recycled.
You
don't
know
that,
but
the
thing
about
it
was
that
you
know
those
Bears
kept
getting
in
and
I
did
everything
I
could,
at
the
top
of
those
cans,
I
mean
I,
had
stretched
rope
and
tires
and
chains
and
stuff,
and
my
neighbors
that
used
to
sit
on
him.
You
know
if
you
had
a
metal,
pail
they'd
sit
on
a
pail
and
yet
that's
the
way
they
get
the
top
off.
Z
Z
You
put
a
little
ammonia
in
that
garbage
pail
and
let
they'll
open
it
up,
maybe,
and
if
the
good
ones
can
smell
it
right
away,
if
they
open
the
top,
you
know
forget
it
and
you'll
have
to
give
these
guys
300
bucks
they're,
making
plenty
of
money.
They
are
making
money.
I
looked
at
look
at
their
look
at
their
website.
I
mean
this.
They
got
look
at
this.
Look
at
these
trucks.
Z
They're
coming
in
with
trucks
with
watt
extra
wheels
and
stuff
I
mean
they
must
be
making
all
kinds
of
money
and
yet
they're
clogging
up
our
roads.
So
we
got
to
carry
all
this
junk
down.
The
road
you
know
is
we're
going
to
have
a
pile
of
about
50
50,
garbage
cans
sitting
down
at
the
end
of
John's
Cove
Road
anyway,
look
I
just
want
to
share
a
little
Congrats
I.
Don't
again,
I,
don't
know
how
you
don't
know
how
you
guys
wanna
get,
but
thanks
it
gets
nice
out
of
opportunity.
Z
N
That's
two
or
three
paragraphs:
good,
okay,
all
right
all
right,
commission,
okay,
I
got
a
question
I'm
gonna
just
do
today.
Can
you
come
back
up?
Okay,
one
is
you
know
in
arbitrary
charge
of
twenty
five
dollars.
I
can
assure
you,
people
will
go
outside
of
their
minds,
calling
us
and
everything
and
there's,
surely
the
goodness
that
you
aren't
gonna,
be
doing
that.
That
way,
suppose
not
going
to
be
doing
that
I
mean
I.
N
Think
of
my
driveway
there's
a
there's
mailboxes
at
the
end
of
it,
and
these
cans
are
going
to
have
to
be
set
not
on
the
main
road
but
on
in
in
that
driveway,
and
so,
if
that
arm
can't
reach
them,
they're
gonna
have
to
get
out
and
move
them
and
to
wear
that
arm
can
grab
them.
You
know
and
I'm
assuming
that
that
is
not
a
hardship.
You
know
and
that
a
lot
of
these
that
that
would
not
be
extra
service.
AP
AB
AP
N
AP
Is
sod
assessment
base
that
there
are
so
many
different
situations
where
you
know
currently
in
the
contract?
There's
a
lot
of
folks
that
are
getting
more
of
a
backdoor
service
that
they've
never
paid
for
that
additional
service?
We
see
that
happen
across
the
board
and
that's
something
that
waist
probe
did
not
pursue
throughout
the
ten-year
contract.
That
was
something
they
told
us
a
couple
years
ago,
something's
gonna
have
to
change
a
North
m4
to
financial,
be
able
to
continue
doing
the
collections
so
that
there
will
be
some
changes.
AP
There
I
think
it's
a
smaller
percentage
than
what
we're
talking
about
on
the
premium
service
side
and
the
program
we
talked
about
our
leader
today.
You
know
folks,
with
the
the
senior
citizenship
you
know
the
longer
driveways,
the
low-income,
those
are,
those
are
targeted.
Demographics
were
out
there
trying
to
trying
to
help
with
these
programs.
So
again,
site
assessments
are
happening
now
and
we're
talking
through
with
subscribers
the
options
for
their
situations.
U
A
A
AP
AR
You
know
currently
on
our
on
our
Scout
trucks,
which
are
pickup
trucks.
We
have
I
believe
right
around
1,300
customers
that
are
serviced
by
those
quite
a
few
of
those
trucks
are
those
customers
that
are
service
with
those
strokes
well,
more
than
likely
be
premium
service
residents.
Okay,
when
you're
talking
about
trucks
were
formal
for
vehicles.
AR
That's!
What's
in
the
contract,
you
know
they're
on
a
private
road
and
the
contract
says
private
driveway
and
that's
some
of
the
things
that
we
did
want
to
clear
up
is
the
language,
but
let
me
speak
a
little
further.
They
do
have
a
road,
it
does
clearly
mark.
You
know
private
whatever
it
is
at
the
bottom
and
we
have
given
them
options
so
far.
We've
said
hey,
you
know
we
can't
send
our
regular
trucks
up
there.
We
can
absolutely
do
that.
There
is
space
for
that.
AR
AR
For
years
as
Danny
mentioned
earlier,
we
provided
more
of
a
premium
service
with
a
smaller
vehicle,
was
11
ton
or
11
or
13
yard
truck
that
has
been
going
up.
There
are
standard
trucks
now
approximately
28
yards,
okay,
so
you're
talking
about
a
considerably
smaller
truck
that
has
been
going
up
there
as
servicing
them
for
no
additional
charge.
So
right
now
the
options
that
we
didn't
worth
hey.
AR
We
can
go
up
there
with
the
regular
truck
the
same
truck
and
charge
you
the
same
price
and
as
long
as
you're,
good
and
you're
gonna
take
care
of
your
road,
and
you
give
us
a
waiver
on
that.
We're
fine
with
that.
Okay
or
if
you
do
want
a
smaller
vehicle,
a
premium
service
vehicle,
then
there
would
be
some
charge
okay
and
we
modified
that
charge
to
$15
per
hole
just
to
because
we
do
want
to
be
reasonable.
AR
A
A
AS
Now
we
have
like
17
homeowners
and
there's
no
way.
I
know
that
we
all
17
would
agree
to
sign
the
release.
Okay.
The
second
option
was
a
reduced
premium
service
for
$15,
but
the
first
option
was
that
we
had
to
sign
a
release
giving
them.
You
know
no
liability
at
all
for
any
damage,
whatever
that
the
trucks
would
cause,
and
that
is
a
problem
giving
that
kind
of
open-ended
release.
AS
AA
U
AP
U
U
I
have
to
sign
a
release
that
they
are
not
responsible
for
my
driveway,
my
bridge
or
anything
if
they
have
trouble
so
I
understand
where
they're
coming
from
that's
just
not
ways
pro
I
think
that's
any
big
company
there,
so
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
that
I'm
on
your
side,
but
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
legality
in
some
of
this
stuff.
That's.
B
Just
you
just
like
me,
y'all
tried
to
put
something
totally
together.
Can
I
agree
with
the?
Was
it
700?
Yes,
sir
I
don't
know
if
that's
going
to
cover
it,
that's
the
only
you
know,
and
then,
when
you
say
you
know
the
first
700
to
come
well,
a
bunch
of
them
may
not
know,
as
I
said
before.
If
it
ends
up
costing
the
county
some
money
we
spend
on
yeah,
we
just
decided
we're
going
to
spend
money
on
solar
panels.
B
Well,
why
can't
we
help
the
people,
these
people,
you
know
if
they
can
come
up
with
ten
dollars
or
something
but
you've
got
so
many
people
that
cannot
get,
and
you
know
I'm
still
not
happy
with
this
trashcan
deal.
33
gallon
trash
cans
is
a
perfect
size
perfect
for
most
people.
They
don't
have
a
family
and
I'm
not
done
and
I'm
not
done
with
chip.
On
that
at
all
this
is
you
got
other
people,
you
know
I
got
them
today
and
I
send
them
to
you
Dane.
They
can't
revering
it.
B
They
can't
get
to
trash
down
the
hill
to
the
road.
So
I
don't
see
where
this
is
going
to
work.
It
and
I'm
just
going
to
say
that
yep
and
I'm
sorry
to
say
that,
but
we've
got
to
figure
out
exactly
what
we
need.
If
this
you
know,
if
we
come
together
tonight
with
700
and
it
don't
work,
we've
got
to
come
up
with
a
different
number.
You
know
and
I
don't
care
if
it
cost
the
county.
Some
money.
U
B
I
can't
make
everything
that
I,
see
and
I
was
not
in
the
pre
meeting.
That's
what
these
meats
are
for
I
thought.
Well
now
you
know
these
meetings
are
for
what
we're
talking
about
these
people
are
here
to
listen.
What
we're
talking
about
so
the
pre
meeting
is
not
exactly
there
and
something
that
they
didn't
hear
in
a
pre-meeting
and
the
fact
des
well.
The
fact
is:
is
these
people
sitting
here
in
our
audience
with
heard?
That's
what
he
does
so
the
pre
mate
know.
That's
you
know,
that's
a
pre
all.
K
A
N
N
Don't
think
that
I
I
don't
think
that
that
isn't
us
for
us
to
alter
the
entire
contract.
You
know
it
is
their
job
to
hold
waste
Pro
accountable
for
any
exceptions.
An
exception
comes
through
and
somebody's
not
getting
treated
properly,
and
then
it
is
it
is.
It
is
up
to
us
to
enforce
the
contract,
and
actually
we.
A
Have
but
can
I
just
tell
that
point
the
decision
points,
though,
if
we
approve
the
policy
we're
making
the
site-specific
decisions,
but
that
I
want
to
be
clear
what
the
process
is.
Would
our
staff
in
waste
Pro
have
to
concurrently
agree?
It's
not
just
waste
Pro.
It
has
to
be
kind
of
a
gift
they
have
to
jointly.
So
the
county
does
have
a
voice
in
that.
It's
not
not
this,
so
the
commission,
but
the
county
does
yes,
is
that
right,
yeah.
AQ
B
AQ
B
B
AQ
N
Yeah
I
was
going
to
make
a
motion,
but
I
would
like
to
put
I
would
like
to
put
the
dates
in
there
and
and
as
a
preface
on
this.
You
know
the
motion
I
want
to
thank
I,
do
want
to
thank
Commissioner
fryer
for
a
few
meetings
ago,
asking
you
know
more
folks
to
come
in
and
give
us
some
some
additional
input
and
in
waistt
Pro
responding
to
the
hardship
part
of
it.
You
know
that
we
are
even
talking
about
700
people,
you
know
and
I'm.
You
know
one
of
them
I
want
to.
Thank.
N
A
U
AU
T
A
AV
Good
evening
my
name
is
Sarah
ranky
and
I
really
appreciate
your
time.
I
know
that
this
has
been
a
long
meeting
with
a
lot
of
important
information
and
I
just
want
to
pass
on,
and
this
won't
be.
My
neighborhoods
experience
solely
I
think
that
there
will
be
experienced
by
other
neighborhoods
as
well.
So
in
our
neighborhood
you,
everybody
has
to
bring
their
trash
down
their
driveway
to
get
onto
the
private
road.
AV
If
we
take
the
redefined
curbside
service,
we're
going
to
be
taking
it,
some
of
us
a
half
a
mile,
so
the
carts
don't
fit
in
our
car
and
where,
where
the
mailboxes
are
is
in
right
away
and
the
easement
is
15
feet
on
either
side.
Well,
the
property
that
that
who
belongs
to
that
right
away
is
not
a
waste
Pro
customer
and
there
isn't
really
room
without
that
person
doing
some
expensive
landscaping
that
they
would
have
to
do
on
their
own.
AV
Removing
kind
of
large
rocks
there's
no
place
for
us
to
even
put
them
so
they're
going
to
be
right
by
the
road
and
they
as
far
as
the
d-o-t.
You
know
the
car
rams
into
them.
It
comes
up
over
the
cars
windshield
and
bangs,
and
there's
going
to
be
metal
on
it.
So
I
think
that
just
saying
that
they're
going
to
be
down
by
the
mailboxes
and
a
lot
of
instances
isn't
going
to
work
even
with
the
d-o-t
I,
don't
know
how
we
would
we
would.
AV
U
C
R
Oh
I
feel
like
each
time
we
have
these
conversations.
They
get
more
focused
on
problem
solving
for
the
members
of
our
community,
for
whom
the
systems
not
quite
working
yet
so
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
County
staff,
the
folks
at
waste,
Pro
and
I
really
want
to
say
thank
you
to
members
of
the
community
who
keep
persisting
when
saying
you
might
be
getting
closer,
but
you're
not
quite
there.
Yet
so.
I
think
there's
a
lot
about
this.
That
I
do
like
and
feel
like.
R
R
Think,
no
matter
how
many
solutions
we
come
up
with
they're
still
going
to
be
some
people
who
just
unfortunately,
have
to
make
that
very
tough
decision.
But
our
goal
is
to
try
to
reduce
the
number
of
people
that
have
to,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
make
that
make
that
call.
So
that's
kind
of
where
I
stand
on
things
tonight
and
I
just
have
a
feeling.
We're
gonna
keep
talking
about
this
for
for-4
for
many
months
to
come.
A
Thank
you
right,
other
comments.
Okay,
I
do
have
just
I
have
one,
and
it's
kind
of
that
might
seem
small,
but
going
back
to
the
question
I
had
earlier
about
I'm
for
the
rebates
for
the
700
will
evaluate.
It
may
need
to
modify
it,
but
I
am
a
little
concerned
about
the
language
that
says
that
the
the
last
sentence
in
that
section
says
rebates
for
residential
tonnage
will
remain
at
the
current
rate
of
$4
per
ton
during
determine
any
renewal
terms
of
this
franchise
agreement.
A
So
I
guess
my
only
question
is
you
know
if
this
franchise
agreement
does
get
renewed
five
years
out
in
the
future?
I
mean
that's
a
long
time.
We
don't
know
how
long
that
renewal
will
be
for
so
I
guess,
I,
just
wonder
if
we
shouldn't
give
ourselves
some
ability
to
just
look
at
that
specific
number
I
mean
if
everything
is
going
great.
Presumptively
we'd
want
to
continue
something
like
this
forward,
but
it
seems
like
we're
kind
of
locking
ourselves
in
to
a
specific
number
for
a
very,
very
long
period
of
time
and
I.
T
AQ
A
T
AR
Could
do
the
current
rate,
but
we
just
don't
want
it
to
fall
below
the
$4.
So
for
some
reason,
if
the
rate
rebate,
changes
to
50
cents,
a
ton
and
we're
offering
$200,000
of
service,
you
know
we
be
taking
a
bath,
so
we
don't
want
to
do
that
either.
So,
if
it
could
say
you
know
not
to
drop
below
that
and
stay
consistent
with
the
rebate
program
that
that
would
be
okay,.
T
AQ
And
I
think
part
of
the
concern
was:
is
it's
not
just
for
waste
pros
benefit,
because
if
we
open
the
door
for
this
program
for
people
700
more
or
less
that
might
want
into
that
program?
If
we
stop
it
in
five
years,
we
might
have
to
relaunch
it
in
the
same
manner
as
before.
I
mean
that
that
was
the
thought
process
right
or
wrong.
S
T
AQ
A
AQ
A
Sorry,
we're
just
works
missing
this
we're
dismissing
this
on
the
spot,
but
we
are
literally
are
voting
on
this
language.
So
what
what
if
we
said
in
it-
and
it
may
be
renewed
during
any
renewable
term,
and
therefore
you
know
we
it's
going
great,
we'll
probably
do
it,
but
just
I
just
I'm
just
concerned
about
kind
of
tying
our
hands
a
bit.
A
M
A
AO
A
C
Y
A
AW
Hi,
my
name
is
Vicky
Meath
I
am
a
Buncombe
County
resident,
and
the
director
of
just
economics
and
I
am
speaking
here
tonight
on
behalf
of
just
economics
as
well
as
many
partner
organizations
that
we've
been
working
with
over
time
and
I
want
to
start
off
by
thanking
you
for
approving
the
funding
for
the
extension
of
the
art
system
up
Leicester
in
near
in
and
around
the
urban
school
district.
I
feel
like
this
addresses
an
acute
need
as
well
as
provides
there
to
residents
in
that
area.
AW
We
have
a
similar,
acute
need
up
in
the
reynolds
district
and
there's
been
a
group
family-to-family
that
has
been
working
on
that
for
a
number
of
years
and
we're
in
partnership
with
that
organization,
to
ask
you
to
consider
creative
ways
to
solve
the
transportation
issues
of
the
residents
in
that
area,
as
well
as
the
students
that
attend
the
the
middle
and
high
school
in
the
reynolds
school
district.
I
also
just
want
to
encourage
the
commissioners
to
think
about
transportation
needs
in
this
county.
What
are
your
role?
AW
What
is
your
role
in
addressing
those
transportation
needs
and
consider
creative
solutions
as
well
as
continued
investments?
You
heard
many
of
the
sunrise
youth
today
mentioned
being
here
in
solidarity
with
just
economics,
because
we
know
that
increased
transport,
public
transportation
options
helps
to
address
climate
change.
We
also
know
that
we
are
in.
M
M
X
Know
it's
late.
The
chairman,
doom
and
I
had
to
say
something
good
about
you,
because
I
was
a
little
hard
on
you
while
ago.
You
said
something
back
when
we
were
talking
and
I.
Think
it's
extremely
important
about
this
priorities.
You
all
were
going
through.
You
said
you.
We
need
to
look
at
what
we
fund
in
terms
of
our
strategic
goals.
X
Yes,
that
is
a
criteria.
That's
going
to
have
to
be
paramount
in
any
committee.
That
brings
a
grant
to
you
and
guess
whose
responsibility
is
going
to
be
to
be
sure
that
it
fits
your
number
top
priorities.
It's
going
to
be
your
responsibility,
not
that
committee,
it's
your
responsibility
to
see
that
it
does,
and
that
was
a
very,
very
smart,
sharp
statement
and
I'm
glad
you
said
it.
I
also
want
to
remind
you
that
it
takes
two
commissioners
to
take
public
comment.
X
It
was
really
really
strong
and
I
strongly
suggest
that
each
member
of
this
board
read
it
now.
You
know
we
heard
that
we've
got
to
have
help
the
poor
people
and
the
poor
people
are
growing
in
Buffum
County.
Why
the
poor
people
growing
in
Buncombe
County
the
tax
burden,
the
larger
the
tax
burden
gets
the
more
people
you
get
depending
on
the
government
to
survive.
So
then
you
increase
the
taxes
again
and
just
tonight
now
you
pull
a
3
million
aside
for
nonprofits
and
you're
gonna
have
over
3
million
of
for
solar
panels.
X
M
A
AX
Hi,
my
name
is
deja
Harris
I
am
a
book
of
accounting
resident
and
I
am
actually
wanting
to
bring
to
your
attention
some
issues
with
the
crossroads
development
off
of
South
Bear
Creek.
Excuse
me,
so
I
am
one
of
the
teachers
that
support
my
students,
who
came
up
here
tonight.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
taking
time
to
listen
to
them,
but
my
background
is
in
water
prior
to
teaching
and
there
are
some
concerns
with
the
development
plants
that
are
posted
so
right
now
the
crossroads
development
plan
is
taking
behind
the
church
a
long.
AX
How
many
creeks
that
then
runs
into
the
French
Broad
River.
So
one
of
the
concerns
is
that
they
take
half
of
the
wetland,
that's
there
and
then,
according
to
their
plans,
they
are
mitigating
it.
However,
there
is
not
sufficient
mitigation
on
their
plans.
They
have
sufficient
waste
water
and
sewer
treatment
which,
for
you
guys
know
any
road.
Runoff
goes
then
straight
into
our
public
waterways,
and
so
without
slowing
the
water
down.
It's
going
to
increase
the
sedimentation,
which
is
one
of
the
number
one
water
pollutants
that
we
have
in
this
part
of
the
state.
AX
So
we'd
really
like
to
draw
your
attention
as
there's
plans
to
continue
and
they
keep
bringing
them
back
up
to
you
guys
to
really
address
the
fact
that
they
need
to
kind
of
really
look
at.
Where
is
this
water
going?
That's
gonna
fall
on
this
site
a
couple
things
that
they
can
do
that
if
you
have
recommendations
to
bring
to
them,
is
to
decrease
their
impervious
surfaces,
so
you
can
add
in
pavers
you
can
add
permeable
asphalt
ways
again
that
slow
the
water
down
to
allow
it
to
be
taken
up
by
the
soil
again.
AX
By
doing
that,
you
reduce
the
amount
of
sedimentation
that
ends
up
in
our
streams.
The
second
big
real
issue
on
that
plan
is
just
the
traffic
we
all
live
in
the
county
while
drive
in
the
county.
We
know
that
traffic
is
increasing
frustration.
Love
are
increasing,
South
Bear
Creek,
as
it
goes
from
Brevard
Road
to
Sand
Hill
Road
I
live
off
Santilli
Road,
that
is
my
main
way
to
get
to
work,
is
really
kind
of
iffy
some
days
it
takes
me
20
minutes
to
get
home
some
days.
AX
M
M
The
big
truck
might
not
be
the
good
thing
for
a
road,
but
the
amount
of
traffic
is
smaller
trucks
going
to
do
that's
another
safety
problem
as
well,
but
the
increase
of
bear
activity
and
in
our
community
as
well,
has
really
increased.
So
the
more
building
going
on
and
the
more
stuff
is
going
on.
They're
gonna
be
more
bear
activity
as
well.
So
it
is
a
big
issue
and
I
think
reviewing
this
plan
you're
doing
a
good
job
on
bringing
that
up.
The
other
thing
on
the
nonprofit's,
the
presenters
are
not
Rachel.
M
M
I
can
hear
her
back
there
I
can
hear,
but
the
way
her
voice
is
going
up
and
down
and
the
way
she
talks
and
it
sounds
like
she's
talking
through
her
teeth
and
not
opening
her
mouth
and
it's
hard
for
me
to
hear
and
I've
had
others
back
there
asking
me
the
same
thing
so
I
would
appreciate
it
for
you
to
address
that
question,
because
it
is
hard
to
follow
her
and
and
so
I
can
understand
her.
Thank
you
very
much.
Yes,.
A
AY
My
name
is
Kate
Millar
and
I'm
also
here
to
express
concerns
about
the
proposed
crossroads.
Development
in
West,
hash,
ville
and
I
realized
that
it
is
the
Board
of
Adjustment.
Not
you
all
who
will
vote
on
this
conditional
use
application,
but
you
need
to
hear
the
problems
with
this
situation
and
work
to
change
the
conditions
that
have
led
to
this.
This
development
includes
over
800
residential
units.
The
size
of
this
is
unprecedented
in
Western,
North
Carolina
and
it's
three
times
larger
than
the
typical
multi
multifamily
development,
complex
plus.
AY
It
includes
over
120
thousand
square
feet
of
retail
office
and
self
storage
space.
It
is
being
fit
on
a
winding
two-lane
road,
South
Bear,
Creek
Road
as
a
crumbling
bridge
at
one
end
and
the
coming
of
the
I
26
connector
project,
another
hotel
and
another
coming
apartment
complex
on
the
other
end
and
the
closest
neighborhood
services
are
accessed
through
an
existing
RS
for
neighborhoods
residential
streets.
AY
AY
These
parcels
are
surrounded
on
three
sides
by
the
city
of
Asheville,
they'll
burden,
the
city
services,
roads,
neighborhoods
and
parks,
yet
not
be
subject
to
any
city
oversight
or
taxation.
That
is
wrong.
This
project
in
no
way
fits
the
description
of
a
public
service.
Zoning
was
intended
to
serve
I,
believe
an
infill
development
and
I
think
it
can
be
done
well
and
be
beneficial,
but
this
is
not
it.
The
infrastructure
surrounding
these
parcels
is
already
inadequate.
Adding
a
traffic
light
will
not
mitigate
the
impacts
of
thousands
of
more
car
trips.
AY
There'd,
a
public
safety
for
those
living
in
this
area
will
be
sacrificed
for
the
developers
profits.
The
environmental
impacts
could
also
be
disastrous.
Currently,
this
undeveloped
land
mitigates
flooding
of
the
hominy
is
nearly
half
100-year
floodplain
stores
and
treats
stormwater
buffers.
The
interstate
provides
wildlife
habitat
and
importantly,
it
provides
green
space
in
an
already
densely
populated
area.
AY
Once
it's
graded,
piped
and
built,
we
will
never
get
that
green
infrastructure
back
the
crossroads.
Land
contains
a
key
area
needed
for
the
Greenway
master
plan,
but
there's
no
commitment
by
the
developer
to
build
a
green
way
to
county
standards
or,
more
importantly,
connect
it
to
the
existing
adjacent
home.
Any
Creek
reen
way
an
unconnected,
gravel
trail
does
not
meet
any
of
our
strategic
goals
towards
multimodal
transport
or
a
connected
Greenway
system
for
all
to
use
and
enjoy
as
far
as
affordable
housing
goes.
There
is
none
here.
A
A
That
meeting
November
19th
at
3:00
p.m.
the
commissioners
will
have
their
pre
meeting
at
200
College
Street
room
three
to
six
in
downtown
Nashville
that
same
day
at
5:00
p.m.
commissioners
will
hold
I'm.
Sorry
same
day,
5
p.m.
we'll
have
a
regular
meeting
at
200
College
Street
room
3
to
6.
We
do
have
a
closed
session.
Miss
Hockaday.
Can
you
talk
about
the
purpose.