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From YouTube: Board of Commissioners' Briefing - June 16, 2020
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Commissioners' Briefing for June 16, 2020.
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Okay,
great
all
right,
very
good,
so
let's
go
ahead
and
move
on.
The
first
item
on
our
agenda
is
an
update
from
the
United
States
Forest
Service
about
their
proposed
forest
plan
revision,
and
we
have
Alice,
Cohen
and
I.
Think
other
members
of
her
team
with
us
and
they'll
be
joining
us
via
zoom,
thanks
for
being
with
us.
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District
Rangers
and
that
are
involved
with
managing
parts
of
Buncombe,
County
or
Forest
Service
lands
in
Macomb
County.
On
top,
you
have
Sharon
Sanchez
Medora,
who
is
acting
district
Ranger
for
the
Appalachian
district
and
both
Casey
is
our
district
Ranger
for
the
Pisgah
district.
So
they
have
joined
us,
and
if
we
have
some
questions,
they
may
be
able
to
answer
some
questions
and
they
also
wanted
to
hear
what
your
input
is
and
your
feedback.
So
at
this
time,
I'll
go
ahead
and
share
my
screen
and,
let's
see.
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So,
just
as
in
some
quick
context,
the
Marin
Pisgah
National
Forest
are
among
the
most
visited
in
the
National
Forest
System,
with
nationally
recognized
scenic
and
recreation
destinations
that
are
among
the
region's
greatest
economic
assets.
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chip
first
included
approximately
1.1
million
acres
bettered
across
the
18
westernmost
counties,
and
the
plan
provides
a
framework
to
guide
future
management
of
the
forest,
taking
into
account
environmental,
economic
and
social
impacts
of
activities,
and
the
plan
recognizes
the
multiple
uses
of
the
Forest
Service
mission.
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As
you
see
on
the
side
here,
a
person
matter
and
to
better
reflect
what
we
heard
are
the
values
and
important
places
across
the
forests.
We
added
geographic
areas.
So
geographic
areas
are
many
chapters
that
include
a
description
of
restoration
as
sustainable
recreation,
opportunities
and
protection
to
local
communities
have
to
those
areas
and
opportunities
to
partner
with
others
to
get
more
done,
lists
of
places
and
uses
that
are
important
to
those
there
is
to
assure
consistency
with
local
and
comprehensive
plans.
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We've
received
an
unprecedented
amount
of
public
comments
and
I've
incorporated
numerous
innovative
management
approaches
in
our
draft
plan,
using
public
input,
we've
rewritten
parts
of
the
plan,
change
management
area
boundaries
added
a
new
chapter
about
places
and
uses
on
each
part
of
the
forest
we
added
and
analyzed
for
a
second
tier
of
objectives.
We.
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So
we
recognize
counties
are
concerned
about
their
economic,
health
and
all
action.
Alternatives
include
the
following:
contributions
to
local
economies.
Ira
currently
averaged
approximately
800
acres
of
timber
harvest
per
year
and
we're
proposing
1,600
to
3800
acres
harvested
per
year
over
the
life
of
the
plan,
and
this
goal
is
supported
by
timber
interest
and
environmental
interests
alike.
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Through
these
collaborative
processes
that
we
have
reckoned,
our
men
are
the
most
visited
national
forests
in
the
nation,
and
we've
proposed
increasing
to
stainability
of
our
recreation
opportunities,
along
with
increasing
the
quality
of
those
experiences,
and
a
proposed
plan
includes
improved
forest
road
conditions
and
increased
access
to
the
forest,
which
we've
heard
a
lot
about
over
these
past
years
of
public
involvement.
There
are
this
leads
to
increased
jobs
and
income
across
the
areas
in
the
process.
Now
we
have
gone
through
the
assessment,
public
input,
drafting
the
plans
and
now
we're
at
public
review.
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So
we,
the
plan
revision
process,
has
these
multiple
steps
and
a
greater
than
ever
emphasis
on
collaboration
under
the
new
for
service
plan.
Revision
guidance
for
the
first
steps
are
to
determine
the
current
status
of
the
resources,
identify
the
issues
in
need
and
collaborate,
collaborate,
collaborate
which
we
have
been
so
drafted.
A
forest
plan
with
multiple
approaches
or
alternative
to
implementing
that
plan
and
the
alternatives
examine
different
ways
that
management
can
make
progress
toward
multiple
goals
and
be
spent
sensitive
to
special
places.
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The
Forest
Service
does
not
have
a
preferred
alternative,
because
we
want
to
hear
from
you
before
we
make
that
decision.
That's
something
unique.
Usually
we
come
out
with
a
preferred
alternative
and
they
recognize
there
were
some
areas
that
we
really
wanted
more
input
on.
So
we
have
not
chosen
a
preferred
alternative
if
birthday,
alternatives
based
upon
what
we
heard
were
shared
values,
to
offer
win-win
solutions
and
minimize
polarization,
and
then
we
are
required
to
analyze
how
those
alternatives
affect
all
the
resources.
It's
incredibly
complex
process.
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They
release
the
death
plan,
environmental
analysis
and
maps
in
mid-february
taking
off
the
formal
comment
period.
As
previously
mentioned,
we've
now
extended
the
comment
period
to
June
29th
and
this
extension
allows
us
to
adjust
our
approach
to
reaching
our
rural
communities
and
allows
interested
groups
and
individuals
to
review
the
drafts
and
offer
comments
back
to
us.
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So
there
are
numerous
references
we've
created
to
help
folks
navigate
through
what
we
have
proposed:
I'm
secure
with
websites
for
virtual
open
house,
including
informative
and
interactive
materials,
from
videos
to
maps
to
information
on
your
county
and
areas
of
interest.
I
hope,
you're
able
to
join
some
of
our
public
question-and-answer
conference
call
along
with
our
to
go
along
with
our
virtual,
open
house
website.
We
have
these
conference
calls,
especially
in
the
interest
of
folks
who
don't
have
as
much
connectivity
or
other
resources
to
manage
zoom
or
other
format
public
meeting
in
these
days.
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So
for
those
of
you,
I
recommend
you
see
our
readers
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view
our
two-story
maps,
look
at
our
consolidated
objectives
and
for
Buncombe
County,
specifically
look
at
North
sub-pixel
edge
in
Black
Mountains
geographic
areas,
many
chapters,
so
that
was
my
real
quick
overview
for
you.
The
vows
plan
will
increase
the
pace
and
scale
of
restoration
and
it
will
help
generate
more
jobs
and
economic
development
in
local
communities
and
will
promote
sustainable
use
and
enjoyment
of
our
national
forests.
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Do
I
would
just
add,
maybe
more
of
a
comment
than
a
question.
Of
course
you
know
one
of
the
one
of
the
areas
that
is
a
particular
interest
to
the
Commission,
and
many
of
our
constituents
in
Buncombe.
County,
of
course,
is
the
big
ivy
area
and
the
County
Commission
did
prepare
a
resolution
regarding
management
of
that
area.
So
we
did
it.
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We
did
discuss
that
at
a
recent
meeting
and
adopted
that
resolution
unanimously
and
so
I,
don't
believe,
that's
been
forwarded
to
the
Forest
Service,
but
if
we
need
to
need
to
resubmit
that
formally
as
part
of
the
public
comment
period,
just
let
us
know
when
we'd
be
we'd
be
happy
to
do
that,
but
we
love
our
wheel
of
Pisgah
National
Forest
and
it's
one
of
our
one
of
Buchan
County's
greatest
greatest
assets.
So
we
we
appreciate
all
your
great
work
and
stewardship
of
these.
These
public
public
lands.
Thank.
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You
so
much,
and
yes,
please
do
use
our
website
link
to
to
submit
formal
comments.
We
really
do
prefer
you
use
our
online
systems
because
it
helps
us
to
organize
and
coordinate
and
and
put
all
our
what
we
expect
to
be
many
many
comments,
then,
to
some
some
kind
of
orders,
so
that
would
be
great.
Thank
you.
So
much
all.
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So
I'm
very
happy
to
bring
this
good
news
to
us
today
when
I
first
was
introduced
to
most
of
the
commissioners.
One
of
the
things
that
I
had
engagement
with
some
of
y'all
is
by
need
for
a
community
paramedic
program.
So
I'm
excited
today
to
tell
you
this
good
news
that
Doug
with
trust
has
funded
us.
A
grant
award
of
380
mm
next
slide.
Will.
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This
on
this
grant
award
is
awarded
to
emergency
services
for
a
year
a
long
period
with
a
possible
reapply
based
on
our
data
for
funding
for
a
second
year,
and
it's
going
to
be
results
driven
based
on
evidence-based
medicine
and
correct
patient
practices
that
improve
the
performance
of
the
care
to
our
community.
So
this
will
be
a
track
track
by
our
performance
management
team
here
at
the
county.
Next
slide,
please.
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Therefore,
providing
quick
or
emergency
medical
care
to
citizens
in
the
community,
we
also
want
to
decrease
our
9-1-1
dispatch,
calls
to
chronic
disease
manifestation
problems
and
behavioral
health
emergencies
and
actually
connect
those
people
with
the
services
that
they
need,
instead
of
trying
to
take
them
to
the
Mercy
room
and
then
having
to
build
access
there.
So
one
of
the
things
that
I
feel
like
this
programs
will
have
a
tremendous
effect
on
is
decreasing
cost
to
our
citizens
for
access
of
quality
healthcare.
So
that's
gonna
be
a
really
great
goal
to
accomplish
next
slide.
Please.
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So
that
connection
was
someone
who
may
have
a
hearing
problem
and
when
they
were
discharged
from
the
emergency
department,
didn't
understand
their
discharge
instructions,
and
you
know
we
get
them
with
someone
that
helped
them
with
their
hearing
problem
and
then
give
them
better
education.
You
know
on
how
they
can
provide
better
access
to
health
care
for
that
individual.
We
won't
provide
rapid
response,
medical
clearance
for
those
wishing
to
get
in
substance,
abuse
and
detox
programs,
especially
with
some
are
underprivileged
population.
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Being
able
to
do
that
immediately,
instead
of
working
through
a
crowded
beating
down
system
that
you
see
in
the
the
emergency
rooms
I'll
be
able
to
provide
that
one-on-one
and
that
in
the
past
has
really
been
the
success
of
a
community.
Para
Mac
Pro
is
giving
folks
that
one-on-one
attention
that
really
can
make
a
difference
kind
of
being
their
coach
for
better
health
care.
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So
the
overall
grant
was
three
hundred
and
eighty
two
thousand
and
again
on
a
think.
The
dog
would
trust
foundation
for
providing
us
with
those
funds.
Buncombe
County
EMS
will
provide
in-kind
support,
fifteen
thousand
and
four
hundred
and
those
dollars
will
be
ten
thousand
and
four
hundred
for
supervisor
that
we
normally
have
on
shift.
That
would
actually
provide
on
supervision
and
oversight
and
then
the
vehicle
maintenance
that
would
be
required
with
all
changes.
Gasoline.
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All
the
things
to
keep
us
rolling,
so
the
other
dollars
from
dogwood
would
be
the
6504
telephone,
radio
and
computer
communications
program
promotion.
As
far
as
advertising
in
our
community
and
getting
the
word
out
we're
working
with
our
physicians
and
health
care's
and
putting
pamphlets
and
doing
education,
then
the
5500
for
continuing
education
for
our
community
paramedics
and
then
there
will
be
a
cost
of
a
vehicle
about
forty
thousand
dollars
and
a
cardiac
monitor
defibrillator
capability,
thirty,
nine
thousand
five
hundred,
so
that's
kind
of
an
overview
of
our
cost.
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If
we
can
get
to
the
next
slide,
so
eighty
percent
of
this
cost
will
be
covered
through
the
dogwood
for
the
three
enhanced
pear
max.
What
we
call
community
paramedics
and
then
the
port
grant
will
actually
take
the
remaining
twenty
percent,
so
there
will
be
new
cost
to
the
taxpayers
or
any
budget
requests
that
we're
making
to
the
Commission.
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Just
a
quick
one:
first,
this
is
just
such
exciting
knees.
I
think
we've
been
talking
about
to
be
a
paramedic
program
for
a
couple
years,
and
it's
just
tremendous
to
have
this
external
funding
coming
in,
but
also
the
scope
of
it.
I
just
had
a
quick
question:
I
think
I
might
have
just
I,
just
wanna
make
sure
I'm
understanding
is.
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Would
they
only
be
responding
to
overdose
calls
and
then,
if
an
individual
also
has
other
chronic
health
conditions
such
as
diabetes,
etc,
they'd
be
able
to
offer
care
in
that
context,
are
they
also
providing
response
to
people
who
may
frequently
call
nine
one
because
of
chronic
health
related
crises?
So.
G
So
our
top
priorities
are
going
to
be
opioid,
crisis,
intervention,
drug
addiction
and
behavioral
health,
but
what
we
find
is
a
lot
of
people
also
have
these
Co
mobility
issues
like
we're,
seeing
in
Co
via,
and
so
we
won't
address
those
at
the
time
and
get
people
on
the
right
track.
There's
a
lot
of
times.
It's
overlapping
issues
that
cause
problems
great.
G
G
There
bill
dual
response
to
that
overdose,
and
then
you
know
once
that
resuscitation
phase.
If
they
refuse
transport,
then
that
specialist
would
take
over
okay
and
provide
that
only
okay,
okay
and
then
for
like
mental
health
patients,
instead
of
using
an
ambulance
to
tire
to
transport
some
by
in
the
long
delay
in
that
process,
we
going
to
work
with
our
mental
health
specialists
to
actually
get
them
to
the
point
of
care,
so
our
transport
does
I
have
to
be
made.
Look
I
like.
B
The
program
and
I
hope
that,
when
the
grant
said
with
that,
this
county
is
in
a
position
where
we
can
continue
something
and
we
can
actually
spread
it
out,
because
it's
a
long
way
from
35
Woodfin
to
Broad
River,
so
if
we
can
put
them
out
in
parts
of
the
county
to
help
with
this
that's
this
is
a
good
start
and
I
just
hope
that
we
can
continue
this
after
this
grant
runs
out
or
it's
good
enough
that
they
continue
and
we
look
to
expand
this
program.
So
thank
you.
Thank.
G
H
I
H
I'd
like
to
start
with
a
recap
of
the
current
agreements
we
have
in
place,
we
have
active
collection
agreements
with
the
city
of
Asheville,
the
town
of
Black
Mountain,
the
town
of
Montreat
and
the
town
of
Woodfin
to
bill
and
collect
regular
property
taxes
in
exchange
for
a
collection
fee.
These
agreements
were
updated,
beginning
fiscal
2020,
so
these
were
were
new
agreements
in
this
fiscal
year
or
updated.
I
should
say
next
slide
max.
H
We
did
send
a
proposal
to
the
town
of
Weaverville
that
contained
the
same
elements
as
the
agreements
we
have
in
place,
such
as
a
three-year
term
billing
frequencies,
monthly,
and
that
refers
to
when
we
expect
revenue
from
the
municipality
for
collections,
and
that
is
based
on
the
amount
we
collect
for
the
smaller
municipalities
gap.
Billing
is
included
when
the
county
does
go
forward.
With
that
special
insist,
a
special
assessment
billing
structure
is
included
if
you're
not
familiar
with
that.
H
Next
slide,
please
Mike's.
So
this
is
just
an
overview
of
the
collection
agreements
in
place,
including
the
proposal
we
sent
to
the
town
of
we
reveal.
The
percent
of
collections
is
2
percent
for
all
the
municipalities
that
follow
a
percent
of
collections.
The
city
of
Asheville
is
the
only
municipality
that
has
a
flat
rate.
There
is
an
increase
with
that
agreement
of
two
and
a
half
percent
per
year
for
the
duration
of
their.
H
H
Next
slide,
please
so
the
benefits
of
a
collection
agreement
with
the
town
of
Louisville
I
view
these
as
a
simplified
billing
for
weaverville
property
owners.
Instead
of
receiving
a
property
tax
bill
from
the
county
and
a
property
tax
bill
from
the
town,
they
would
receive
one
bill
just
like
the
other
municipalities
do.
Additionally,
there
would
be
no
additional
staff
needed
in
Buncombe
County
tax
collections.
We
would
just
continue
collecting,
as
we
have
the
revenue
received
from
Weaverville,
we'll
offset
any
additional
expenses
we
incur.
H
Those
are
often
secondary
Billings
or
additional
letters.
Things
such
as
credit
card
fees
like
that
I've
estimated
the
county
revenue
based
on
fiscal
year,
2020
for
the
town
of
Weaverville
value
at
$64,000,
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have
for
me
at
this
time
again.
This
is
just
a
preliminary
discussion.
There
are
still
conversations
going
on,
but
we
wanted
to
make
you
aware
that
a
proposal
was
sent
to
the
town.
H
A
J
Good
afternoon,
chairman
and
commissioners
in
the
fall
of
last
year,
we
brought
to
you
for
review
and
approval
the
fiscal
year.
Twenty
counts,
why
D
schedule
so
the
fee
schedules
for
all
departments
across
the
county.
Our
goal
has
been
to
bring
any
recommended
fee
schedule,
changes
to
you
in
preparation
to
adopt
the
fee
schedule
in
alignment
with
the
annual
budget
adoption
process.
The
intent
of
today
is
to
make
you
aware
and
answer
any
questions
that
you
have
related
to
recommended
changes
for
departmental
fees.
These
are
outlined
in
the
summary
documents
provided
max.
J
Each
of
the
departments
are
represented
here
on
and
are
available
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
may
have
either
around
specific
fees
that
are
proposed
for
change
or
if
your
preference
is
is
each
of
the
department's
could
go
through
the
detail
of
those
summary
changes
at
the
time
of
budget
adoption.
You
will
see
language
in
the
annual
budget,
ordinance
that
request
your
approval
of
the
fiscal
year
2021
fee
schedule,
assuming
we
have
satisfactorily
addressed
any
questions
for
requested
changes
from
you.
A
Commissioners,
any
feedback
I
mean
it's
that
we've
got
all
the
data
here,
so
I
mean
I,
think
we
can
kind
of
look
at
it
and
just
maybe
I
don't
feel
like
you
need
to
read
all
this
to
us.
So
if
there's
some
commissioners
does
anybody
have
any
questions
or
does
anything
stand
out
or
staff?
Are
there
any
particular
things
you'd
call
our
attention
to
a
lot
of
these
are
fairly
minor
adjustments.
L
K
L
Real
quick
sure,
absolutely
we've
been
running
across
a
lot
of
public
hearing
cases
that
are
best
for
continuances
when
they
do
that
it
requires
us
to
riad
vert
eyes
and
also
send
out
mailings.
We
do
a
thousand
foot
radius,
those
add
up
or
very
quickly.
This
is
a
fee
change
to
cost
recovery,
the
expense
of
having
to
do
the
legal
advertisement
and
the
changes
for
the
postage
the
charge
for
the
postage
for
new
junkyards
that
are
being
established.
We
never
had
a
fee.
L
This
is
a
way
to
capture
that
there's
a
lot
of
staff
work
that
has
to
go
into
compliance
of
those
and
inspections.
We
made
a
small
change
to
some
existing
fees
for
manufactured
home
permits
to
make
it
more
equitable
for
smaller
manufactured
home
permits.
In
that
way,
it's
just
a
base
charge
with
a
with
a
$10
per
space
amount
rather
than
just
an
outright
flat
fee.
L
We
ran
into
issues
where
we
were
having
to
go
out
to
sites
multiple
times
where
they
had
failed
an
inspection.
There
was
some
just
some
base
fees
to
recoup
those
charges
street
addressing
a
minor
change
to
put
that
in
line
with
zoning
determination,
letters.
We
get
a
lot
of
requests
from
mortgage
companies
subdivision
and
application
review
fees
for
the
renewals
of
guarantees
of
improvements.
These
are
large-scale
subdivisions
that
put
up
guarantees
of
improvements
and
take
years
to
build
out
when
we
renew
either
like
a
bond
or
letter
a
credit.
L
We
do
extensive
work
with
banks
and
insurance
companies.
This
is
a
way
to
recoup
some
of
the
amount
of
time
that
staff
spends
on
those
and
the
last
one
is
establishing
a
fee
for
short-term
rentals,
campgrounds,
RVs,
vacation
rental
complexes
in
bed-and-breakfast,
and
it's
variable
depending
on
the
size
of
each
of
those
establishments,
and
the
reason
we
did
that
is
to
recoup
the
amount
of
time
that
we
spend
and
to
document
each
of
those
uses
and
that's
the
summary.
K
So
can
you
give
us
just
kind
of
a
just
overview,
real,
quick
on
you
know
what
what
the
Planning
Department
does
as
far
as
measuring
customer
service
that
should
be
giving
when
it
comes
to
inspections
and
on-time
inspections
and
I
know
that
they
had.
You
know:
something's
turned
down.
You
got
to
go
back
you're
going
to
charge
in
addition,
but
can
you
just
speak
to
how
the
county
I
mean
I'm,
not
getting
any
complaints,
I'm,
not
hearing
anything
like
that.
So
that
question
is
not
coming
from
that.
K
L
Had
the
fee
schedule
in
place
to
recoup
the
cost,
of
course,
of
how
the
amount
of
time
that
staff
spends
to
issue
permits
complete
the
required
inspections,
work
with
our
permits
and
inspections
Department.
And
then
we
have
a
number
of
quality
control
mechanisms
in
place
with
our
Excel
of
permitting
software
other
than
a
specific
customer
service.
Question
that
you
might
have
I
think
there
are
a
number
of
safeguards
in
place
and
a
number
of
portals
in
which
people
may
comment
about
how
they
feel
about
a
process
or
any
changes
that
need
to
be
made.
L
L
A
M
Good
evening
evening,
thinking
back
to
our
slides,
I
think
this
okay,
so
you
just
go
through
those
charges
there
all
right.
So
what
we're
recommending
is
a
kind
of
an
alignment
with
recommended
practice
from
our
billing
company.
Also,
what
we
see
across
the
industry
is
a
standard
of
double
the
Medicare
allowable
rates,
and
so,
if
you
look
the
different
classifications
based
off
of
care
provided
and
so
there's
two
non-emergent
charges,
ALS
or
Avast
life
support
and
basic
life
support.
M
These
would
be
the
nonon
emergence
or
schedule
type
transports
between
home
and
doctor's
office
home
to
a
solace
in
or
things
like
that.
So
it's
not
an
acute
care
type
situation,
they're
actually
emergent
transports
for
BLS.
That
would
be
for
a
simple
fracture,
simple
scrapes
and
bruises
bleeding
control,
some
basic
level
care,
no
advanced
level
care
is
needed
for
those
the
first
ALS
charge
the
ls1
emergent.
This
is
when
things
like
chest,
pain,
shortness
of
breath,
paramedic
level,
skills,
IVs
medications.
Things
like
this
are
taking
care.
M
M
These
are
things
like
what
we
call
a
rapid
sequence
intubation,
who
actually
will
paralyze
and
sedate
a
patient
to
establish
an
airway,
give
advance
medications
for
pain
and
things
like
that?
Can
these
higher
procedures
have
higher
costs
and
medicare
allows
us
to
be
reimbursed
at
a
higher
rate,
and
what
we
see
across
the
industry
is
about
twice.
M
The
Medicare
rate
is
the
standard
recommendation
and
when
it
comes
to
billing-
and
this
helps
offset
the
contractual
allowances
we
have
to
give
to
Medicare
Medicaid
patients
within
a
member
of
these
charges,
they
do
not
affect
those
patients
Medicare
Medicaid.
We
have
a
set
rates
that
we
have
to
accept
it's
about
just
under
three
million
dollars
a
year.
We
take
it
in
crack,
contracture
allowances
for
those
patients
and
they
represent
about
48
percent
of
our
patient
population.
M
These
rates
are
mainly
going
to
be
covered
by
private
insurances,
and
we
ask
to
make
about
a
hundred
thirty-nine
thousand
additional
dollars.
That's
what
our
billing
services
estimated
for
increased
revenues,
but
accepting
these
rates,
and
we
looked
across
the
region.
The
state
at
like
services,
with
these
pretty
much
lined
up
with
what
services
are
charging.
We
looked
at
mecklenburg,
New,
Hanover,
Guilford,
County,
Haywood
County
all
have
adopted
this
twice
the
Medicare
allowable
rates
as
the
standard.
It's
what
we
see
kind
of
across
the
board
with
that.
M
M
K
It's
a
big
big
jump
on
the
mileage
I
mean
when
I
look
at
a
couple
things
jump
at
it,
I
mean
I,
don't
know
it.
You
know,
I
know
nothing
about
this.
You
know
so
to
go
up
from
$10
a
mile
to
$15
a
mile
I
said.
Is
it
just
from
your
estimates
it?
You
know,
you
said
you're
talking
about
Mecklenburg
and
these
other
counties.
M
It's
based
off
of
the
Medicare
allowables,
so
America
allow
Medicare
allowable
is
about
seven
and
a
half
dollars
per
mile,
and
we
just
we
double
that
to
get
to
that
15
provide
charge,
that's
how
that
is
based
off
of
well,
it's
meant
to
offset
the
wear
and
tear
and
service
and
maintenance
of
vehicles,
and
we
know
that
the
changes
and
standards
that
are
our
vehicle
costs
have
gone
up
about.
Eighty
thousand
dollars
a
unit,
what
we've
paid
in
the
past,
so
we
start
replacing
fleets
in
the
coming
years.
We're
gonna
see
those
costs
increase.
M
This
is
one
way
we
offset
that
the
me
the
standard
is
set
by
the
industry,
we'll
have
to
offset
those
costs.
Somehow,
if
their
revenues
for
the
people
used
in
the
service
or
through
you
know,
through
a
tax
base
to
the
general
fund,
again,
even
with
the
the
mileage,
we
only
can
charge
Medicare
and
Medicaid
patients
what's
allowable.
So
we
have
to
write
that
much
off.
It's
the
inch
private
insurances
that
helps
offset
those
write
offs
that
we
have
to
take
either
across
healthcare.
This
is
a
standard
practice
for
doctors,
offices,
hospitals,
specialists
to
practice.
M
M
So
Jimmy
what
we've
seen
in
the
other
rates
when
we've
looked
at
those
as
they've,
they
tend
to
align
with
us
and
keep
it
similar.
There
is
some
slight
variances
based
off
their
recommendations
from
their
billing
companies.
Some
of
them
use
different
services
than
we
do,
but
again
our
billing
company,
which
I
think
there's
to
the
other
transport
services
that
use
them.
They
reckon
they
highly
recommend
that
twice
the
Medicare
allowable
rates
and
and.
M
Believe
it's
been
talked
to
the
past
and
we
can
share
this
with
them.
This
is
what
we're
moving
towards
that,
so
they
can
also
align
closer
to
that
and
keep
it
consistent
across
the
county,
and
it
also
will
help
them
in
their
services.
Also
thank
and
then
the
other
increases
we're
asking
for.
As
for
our
standby
services,
and
so
these
are
special
events
that
we
cover
so
races
mass
gatherings
soccer
games,
so
we
provide
medical
coverage.
M
These
events
either
based
off
of
their
type
of
event
they're
holding
if
the
permit
requires
medical
coverage
or
their
insurance
carrier
requires
medical
coverage,
and
we
rely
on
overtime
costs
to
cover
these
events,
and
so,
as
you
know,
cost
increase.
We've
never
really
increased
these
costs
in
at
eight
years,
and
so
it
sounded
more
aligned.
So
we
recoup
that
overtime
costs
for
crews
covering
these
outside
events
of
noble
no.11.
These
are
paid
by
the
event
coordinators
that
hold
the
event.
A
M
The
changes
all
the
changes,
so
our
billing
company
estimates
for
this
increase
anywhere
from
one
hundred
and
thirty
nine
to
one
hundred
ninety
thousand
dollars
additional
revenue
over
the
the
next
year,
based
off
of
our
prior
year,
performances
that
we've
seen
it
from
with
our
account
with
them.
Now
that
estimate
was
made
before
Co
vid
so
that
it
may
be
actually
lower
initially
but
moving
forward,
and
we
should
see
that
that
type
of
response
from
our
billing
company,
okay,.
E
A
N
All
right
so
I'll
start
out
I'm
just
showing
this
is
today's
dashboard,
where
we're
at
so
you
can
see
we're
at
four
hundred
and
fifty
seven
cases
today.
One
hundred
and
forty
eight
of
those
individuals
are
in
isolation.
At
this
time
we
are
at
36
deaths,
31
of
which
have
occurred
in
long-term
care
facilities.
N
We're
remain
at
five
outbreaks
and
long
term
care
facilities,
which
means
two
or
more
cases
and
residents
or
staff,
and
that's
impacting
92
residents
and
70
staff
across
those
five
facilities
and
in
terms
of
the
number
of
tests
that
continues
to
increase
over
12100
tests.
And
so
when
you
do
the
back
of
the
envelope
math
3.8%
positivity
rate,
so
it's
kind
of
hovering
up
there.
Around
4%
I
would
say
for
the
past
a
couple
of
weeks
and
then
in
terms
of
community
testing.
I
just
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
that.
N
So,
through
the
end
of
last
week,
we
had
been
at
11
sites
and
done
751
tests
really
good
turnout
last
week
about
a
hundred
at
each
of
those
three
sites,
and
so
far
24
positive
cases
have
come
out
of
that
with
some
tests
still
pending
from
last
thursday's
tests
at
last
check
about
27
tests
still
pending,
so
just
want
to
give
you
that
update
we're.
Definitely
seeing
more
community
spread
cases
being
identified
that
are
not
connected
with
a
long-term
care
facilities.
N
The
number
one
need
we're
having
right
now
is
in
those
facilities
where
we
already,
we
have
a
case
and
the
guidance
is
to
test
all
residents
and
all
staff
testing
the
residents
not
an
issue.
Those
residents
have
insurance
that
is
paying
for
that
testing.
We're
we're
hitting
the
wall
is
the
staff
insurance,
where
we
have
some
staff
who
don't
have
insurance.
N
We
have
some
staff
where
their
insurance
plan
is
paid
for
a
couple
rounds
of
testing
and
then
says
no
more
and
then
some
health
plans
that
are
just
saying
it
has
to
be
ordered
by
their
primary
care
provider,
and
so
we're
hitting
this
wall
where
we're
having
to
do
workarounds
to
get
the
testing
done
and
so
wanted
to
see.
If
we
can
help
support
that
testing,
because
it's
really
important
in
order
to
contain
and
stop
the
spread
and
hopefully
end
the
outbreak.
N
N
Sometimes
partnering
with
range
Urgent
Care
to
do
the
the
actual
specimen
collection
and
then
those
labs
are
run
at
their.
The
tests
are
processed
at
their
lab
most
tests.
If
you
like,
if
I
went
to
my
doctor
tested,
it
would
be
about
$100
a
test,
that's
the
Medicare
liable
rate,
and
so
that's
what
everybody's
pretty
much
charging
this
lab
has
decreased.
N
That
cost
so
they're
offering
it
$75
a
test,
and
they
actually
would
offer
it
at
$72.50
a
test
if
we,
if
there
was
a
prepayment
so
if
they
got
paid
in
advance
for
a
set
number
of
tests,
the
process
is
working
really
smoothly.
In
terms
of
turnaround
time,
48
hours,
labs
are
processed
without
issue
and
getting
back
to
the
facilities
and
helping
us
quickly
in
the
facilities
quickly
identify
new
cases
so
that
they
can
be
isolated
and
cohorted.
So.
K
N
N
K
K
K
But
if
we
were
going
to,
you
know
make
a
commitment
and
I
don't
know
that
there
would
be
anybody
and
I.
Don't
know
that
there'd
be
a
lot
of
opposition
to
to
this
and
all
hush
and
let
other
commissioners
talk
but
I
mean
I'd
like
to
to
know
what
those
numbers
are
and
chairmen
to
my
colleague
Commissioner
of
pendulum.
The
reason
that
he
asked
that
is,
do
we
just
had
a
discussion
about
it?
K
You
know-
and
you
know
we
heard
some
good
news
from
a
friend-
that's
a
mutual
friend
of
Robert
and
I
that
got
some
good
news
from
Aston,
Park,
someone's
grandmother
and
mother.
Had
kovat
that
was
way
up
in
years,
his
recovery,
and
that's
just
a
you
know
thank
the
Lord
for
for
that,
because
that
that's
that
doesn't
happen.
It
doesn't
happen
that
much
so
inhale
chairman.
K
That's
one
of
the
discussions
we
were
wanting
to
have
and
if
it
requires
you
know
a
creating
a
specific
amount
of
money
from
you
know,
fund
balance
or
from
cares
or
a
combination
of
the
two.
You
know
to
protect
the
spread
of
the
of
the
virus
from
those
facilities
and
to
protect
the
that
vulnerable
population.
You
know
we
would
like
to
have
that
conversation
so.
D
D
Basically
in
that
memo
seems
to
respond
to
the
most
pressing
need
that
we
have,
which
is
when
there
is
a
a
case
and
a
facility,
that's
prepared
to
do
the
testing,
but
I
was
running
into
barriers
that
we
would
be
able
to
step
in
and
be
the
payer
of
last
resort.
So
I
would
love
to
I
guess
we
need
to
do
it
at
our
five
o'clock
in
order
to
take
or
what
perhaps
would
we
need
to
do
it
because
you
already
have
allocated
money
and
I
believe
we
haven't
spent
close
to
that.
D
So
perhaps
we
could
do
this
at
the
level
of
staff
direction,
so
I'd
love
to
put
on
the
table
that
we
move
forward
with
option
one,
but
also
that
we
continue
to
look
at
ways
to
strategically
approach.
I
think
what
Commissioner
Belcher's
suggesting
it
looks
like
from
sort
of
back
of
the
napkin
calculations
that
if
there's
2,400
employees,
we
could
do
it
for
about
70
bucks,
a
test.
It
would
be
about
170,000
to
do
one
round.
But
it's
the
repeat:
it's
the
repetition
of
rounds.
Of
course
that
gets
you
into
the
more
helpful
data.
B
I
can
kayak
go
ahead.
No
I'm
just
like
to
see
I
understand
the
most,
the
most
pressing
need
from
from
March
to
May.
We
did
a
fantastic
job
in
this
county,
keeping
it
out
of
these
nursing
homes
and
for
the
ones
that
don't
have
an
outbreak
right
now.
I
would
like
to
see
what
testing
would
look
like
that
we
test,
even
if
it's
not
in
that
nursing
home,
we
test
staff
some
way
somehow
to
keep
it
out
of
that
nursing
yeah.
B
That's
what
I'm
saying
I
want
to
look
at
this
and
and
that's
the
reason
I
had
asked
mr.
chairman
I:
don't
want
them
to
bring
something
back,
I,
don't
know
if
we
need
to
do
it
officially
in
a
meeting
I'm
ready
to
quit.
Talking
about
this
and
let's
protect
those
long-term
share
facilities,
whether
they
have
an
outbreak
or
there's
a
potential
I
mean
and
then
because
we
know
if
we
kept
it
out
from
for
two
months,
then
I
know
the
way
you
think
it
would
be
gotten
in
there
with
maybe
something
from
the
staff.
B
B
O
I
would
I
would
I
just
have
a
quick
question
to
tag
along
with
that
I
do
support
moving
forward
with
option.
One
I
am
really
curious.
What
we
know,
though,
about
the
facilities
that
staff
have
not
had
any
positive
cases?
What
are
they
doing
differently?
Are
they
I
mean
I,
know
I
had
to
insert
some
questions
to
my
own
HR
department,
with
my
employer
had
I
attended
any
mass
gatherings
over
X
number
of
people.
Are
those
employers
able
to
look
at
that?
Can
we
pinpoint
what
is
happening
that
is
working
and
not
working.
N
I
feel,
like
you
know,
they're
all
you
know,
screening
of
following
ideas,
I
think
it
really
comes
down
to
luck.
Honestly,
your
I
mean
the
staff
are
going
out
in
the
community,
and
so
it's
really
about
every
contact.
They
have
and
that's
why
I
heard
secretary
Cohen
talked
about
yesterday,
shoots
I'm,
not
restaurants
and
and
then
she
was
connecting
those
to
long-term
care
facility.
We
have
to
number
like
everyone
of
us
like
if
you
just
followed
all
our
interactions.
N
K
D
K
N
P
The
80,000
was
the
remained
in
staff,
what
we
were
looking
at
in
that
memo,
whereas
the
skilled,
nursing
so
the
nursing
homes
and
the
adult
care
facility.
Yes,
so
we've
carved
out
the
most
fragile
population
that
we
have
in
our
county,
which
was
35
facilities
right
and
that's
the
piece
that
we
were
to
focus
and
are
not
the
200.
That
is
all
the
facilities
that
do
have
seen
some
type
of
senior
care
you're,
only
focusing
on
that
really
fragile
piece
and
of
those
2,400
or
so
employees.
We
believe
about
1,300.
P
So
we
have
about
a
thousand
that
has
not
been
tested
to
commissioned
a
panelist
point.
There's
a
thousand
so
that
$80,000
that
you're
talking
about
is
to
test
that
baseline
test
and
as
we're
calling
it
for
all
the
employees
that,
in
those
skilled
nursing
facilities
that
have
not
yet
been
tested.
Okay,
that
was
about
a
thousand
employees
at
the
72
okay,
seventy-five
thousand
dollars.
So
that's
where
we
were
getting
that
number
from
the
80,000.
P
So
that
would
be
to
do
what
you're
asking
for
it
at
one
time
a
case,
but
when
we
do
that-
and
we
do
find
a
positive
case-
that's
when
the
requirement
steps
in
that
we
do
that
continuous
testing.
So
that's
the
piece
that
we
need
help
with
now
at
Aston
Park
and
we
do
know.
If
you
look
on
the
state
website,
there
have
the
highest
case
count
and
a
highest
death
in
our
community.
So
that's
a
critical
piece
for
us
and
we're
asking
for
that,
help
to
help
fund
them
and
to
do
that
testing.
P
The
model
that
we
have
in
place
is
True
Range,
Urgent,
Care
and
Mako.
Mako
says:
if
you
do
a
lump
sum
up
front
prepayment,
they
would
then
come
on-site
and
test
the
employees
once
a
week
until
that
money
runs
out
so
we're
the
state.
Yesterday,
secretary
Cohen
mentioned
that
the
state
is
also
looking
at.
How
can
they
be
that
payer
of
last
resort?
So
our
hope
that
would
be
sooner
rather
than
later
and
we
could
be
standing
in
the
gap
for
a
short
period
of
time
with
County
funding.
P
P
Piece
that
I
would
say
is
you
gave
us
a
million
dollars
for
kovat
at
duralee
onset,
so
500,000
we
have
a
second
500,000
that
you
gave
us.
The
recommendation
from
staff
is
that
you
continue
to
tell
us
staff
guidance
to
go
ahead
and
set
that
in
place
some
contract
with
Mako
to
do
to
ongoing
testing
and
then
also
to
do
that
point
in
time.
Testing
as
well
with
Mako.
K
So,
if
whoever
needs
to
answer
this,
if
there
was
a
quarter
of
a
million
dollars
allocated,
what
would
we
within
the
nursing
homes?
What
would
we?
How
would
we
invest
that
in
protecting
the
the
nursing
home?
So
we
have
a
no
80,000
is
one.
What
does
that
mean?
We
do
three
runs.
I
mean
three
to
three:
yes
or
I
mean
he'll.
If
we
set
aside
that
much
money,
what
would
it
be
used
for
in
the
nursing
homes,
only
nursing.
N
K
K
E
K
If,
yes,
that's
yes,
yes,
I
think
you
have
to
put
a
hedge
around
I
think
you
got
to
put
a
hedge
around
them.
If
I'm
wanting
to
protect
and
invest,
you
know
that
money
in
the
county
then
I
would
want
to
put
a
hedge
around
the
most
vulnerable
people
in
the
county
and
in
the
spread
from
those
areas
too.
K
P
P
Commission,
the
other
point
I
do
want
to
put
on
the
table
is
a
conversation
around
equipment
or
we
can
do
testing
out
a
cheaper
rate
in
the
county
and
without
something
that
staff
has
been
looking
at.
We
haven't
gotten
very
far
on
that,
but
when
you
throw
it
out
kind
of
numbers
out,
that's
the
money
that
we're
talking
about
to
have
equipment
in
our
keeper.
O
P
Then
it
will
be
available
in
Western,
North
Carolina.
It
would
be
faster
turnaround,
then,
to
48
hours
and
a
facility
that
I
would
like
for
us
to
talk
about
when
you're
talking
to
another
50,000.
Okay,
the
estimate
our
equipment
right
now
is
about
350,000
to
have
equipment
set
up.
That
is
a
longer-term
solution,
and
what
we're
talking
about
right
now.
K
P
K
N
P
We
need
yes,
we
need
that
stopgap
now,
but
when
you
were
saying
two
hundred
three
hundred
thousand,
that
number
to
me
means
a
tournament
long-term
solution.
What
you're
asking
today
is
much
less
than
that.
How
can
we
be
standing
in
the
gap
to
get
that
testing
done
now
at
a
much
smaller
price,
but
if
you're
willing
to
go
that
high
I
want
you
to
know
that
there's
a
solution
for
that
that
could
be
longer
term.
It's
awesome.
B
A
Agreement
around
a
couple
of
concepts:
one
is
providing
financial
support
if
needed
to,
because
there's
the
responding
to
facilities
that
have
active
outbreaks
right
in
doing
whatever
we
can
to
partner
with
them
and
help
them
manage
a
really
tough
situation.
So
I
hear
consensus
around
that
and
then
the
second
part
is
completing
a
first
round
of
baseline
testing
for
all
staff
right
in
the
in
the
35
facilities
and
about
half
are
already
done
it
or
have
committed
to
doing
it.
A
So
the
other
half
and
that's
$80,000
I
hear
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
support
for
that
too,
and
then
the
third.
The
third
piece
is
the
forward-looking
preventive
strategy,
because,
while
the
first
on
the
baseline
testing
is
great
like
doing
it
once
is
way
better
than
doing
it,
zero.
But
the
reality
is:
that's
just
a
point
in
time
right
that.
D
A
A
But
if
we
do
that,
then
that
means
we
may
not
have
to
contract
right,
because
these
are
these
are
good
companies,
but
they
are
their
businesses.
They
have
to
make
a
margin,
and
it
takes
time
to
do
that
because
we're
shipping
all
these
out
of
this
out
of
the
region
to
some
other
city.
So
we
have
this
lag.
This
lag
time
before
we
get
results
back,
so
same-day
results
testing
in
Western,
North
Carolina
at
a
much
lower
cost.
So
that's
the
idea
of
the
the
pro
the
forward-looking
hey.
A
This
is
gonna,
be
with
us
for
at
least
another
six
to
nine
months,
maybe
longer,
and
we're
gonna
need
to
do
tens
of
thousands
of
tests
right.
So,
let's
plan
for
how
do
we
do
that
at
scale?
So
I'm
hearing
a
I'm
hearing
a
lot
of
support
for
each
the
the
the
immediate
things
we
need
to
do,
and
then
this
idea
of
feasibility
for
a
larger
scale,
Western
North,
Carolina
testing,
so
any
any
any
kind
of
we
could
do
a
couple
of
things.
It's
been
a
good
discussion.
A
E
E
A
A
P
A
I
F
A
Right,
that's
right
and
then
there's
this
feasibility
for
doing
more
stuff.
That's
going
to
take
some
time
right
because
there's
several
there's
dogwood
there's
several
we're
gonna
be
partners
for
that,
because
this
is
this
is
a
this
isn't
and
we
can
help
with
resources.
But
this
is
not
the
county's
core
competency
from
a
technology
standpoint,
and
things
like
that.
So.
I
K
K
E
K
Just
a
question
on
that's
pretty
good
news
for
the
I
appreciate
that
I
appreciate
the
conversation.
It's
not
what
real
shock
to
me
that
the
commissioners
would
feel
the
way
they
failed.
So
how
do
we
get
this
information
to
the
nursing
homes
and
when
do
y'all
see
it
coming
back
to
us
I
figure,
you
go
make
the
call
pretty
quick.
N
I
I
A
Obviously
I
think
goes
out
saying
we're
saying
with
payer
of
last
resort
on
some
of
these,
but
we
will
pay
if
we
need
to,
but
you
know,
I
mean
dogwood
has
done
this
grape.
You
know
they're
very
interested
in
this.
Those
conversations
are
there
I
mean
my
hope
would
be
that
there's
there's
there's
a
strategy
here
that
both
the
facilities,
local
government
charitable
institutions
kind
of
together
each
take
on
apart.
N
N
That
was
one
of
the
site,
the
areas
that
we
were
where,
where
and
they're,
currently
working
on,
setting
up
more
permanent
site
and
we're
looking
at
where
and
so
yes,
the
answer
is,
we
have
not
done
one,
but
we
are
looking
at
identifying
which
site
for
one
of
the
permanent
sites
we're
going
to
want
to
have
a
north-south-east-west
in
a
central.
Thank.
B
I
I
The
50%
is
going
fine,
but
they
feel
that
they
had
a
disadvantage,
because
it
seems
that
we'll
the
only
county
in
the
state
at
50%
everybody
else's
is
a
hundred
percent
and
the
other
concern
they
have
is
that
they
have
things
in
place
from
the
national
chain
and
all
where
they
can
clean
the
rooms
immediately.
And
they
question:
why
do
they
have
to
wait?
24
hours.
Q
Good
afternoon,
everyone
so
work
backwards
through
your
comment
a
little
bit
the
the
reason
for
us
declaring
that
24-hour
period
initially
was
a
abundance
of
caution,
because
we
were
concerned
that
people
were
going
to
go
in
clean
the
room
to
immediately
follow
an
occupancy,
whether
it
could
still
be
you
know:
respiratory
droplets
linger
in
the
air
and
then
and
then
let
it
sit
for
an
hour
or
sit
sit
for
a
day.
What
we
asked
in
the
news,
let's
sit
for
a
day
then
go
in
and
clean.
Q
It
then
turn
the
room
and
the
idea
was
if
they
were
at
50%
capacity,
they
could
alternate
rooms
so
not
really
losing
capacity
there,
because
if
you
use
room
a
one
day,
you
know
let
it
clean.
Let's
say
then
clean
it.
You
could
use
the
other
room
other
day,
we're
in
constant
conversations
through.
You
know,
Tim
love
reaching
out
to
that
hotel,
you
group,
and
from
generally
what
we
see
from
them,
even
at
50%
capacity
there
about
30
to
35%
of
bookings.
Q
We
did
it
start
the
discussion
about
seeing
where
the
governor
goes
later
in
the
month,
where
weather
will
take
off
some
of
those
restrictions,
understanding
that
we
are
being
as
one
of
the
few
instances
where
were
more
restrictive
than
the
state
guidance,
but
we're
having
that
discussion,
we're
looking
at
data
we
didn't
see
as
opposed
to
several
months
ago,
when
this
initially
started.
We
were
very
specifically
get
in
our
cases
from
people
coming
in
from
out
of
state.
Q
We
don't
have
those
specific,
it
probably
is
still
happening,
but
we
don't
have
the
specific
data
points
to
guide
decisions
on
that
at
that
point.
So
we're
assessing
that
you
have
a
in
upcoming
weeks
as
we
transition
to
whatever
our
new
phase
or
direction
from
the
governor
is
we'll
have
a
good
recommendation
when.
Q
Current
order
is
set
to
expire,
June
26th,
so
they'll
need
to
be
previously.
As
we
transition
between
phases,
we
get
a
heads-up
from
the
governor.
You
know
a
couple
date
the
week
of
so
we're
anticipating
that
again.
But
what
we'll
look
at
state
trans,
we'll
look
at
local
trends
and
we'll
continue
having
those
forums
with
the
hotel
groups
and
lodging
groups.
P
F
K
Things
you
know
Commissioner,
the
one
that
struck
me
was
the
cleaning
crime
and
I
never
really
thought
about
it.
When
you
presented
it
out,
I'm
thinking,
okay,
we're
going
every
other
room,
so
you're,
you
know
I
kind
of
picked
up
on
a
little
bit
of
the
of
the
logic
there.
You
know.
Part
of
that
concern
is
the
people
that
actually
do
that
work.
K
It's
the
some
of
those
are
the
people
that
really
need
to
need
the
work
and
need
to
go
back
to
work
and
and
with
the
requirements
that
the
hotels
currently
have
their
cleaning
requirements
is
probably
way
beyond
what
we
would
even
require
settled.
If
there's
any
flexibility
on
the
cleaning
cleaning,
part
of
it
or
not
or
if
we
need
to
you
know,
feel
like
that.
We
need
to
wait
a
doubt.
The
governor
will
change
guidance
on
the
hotels
if
he
does
anything
I
doubt
it,
because
that
he
didn't
from
didn't
from
the
beginning.
K
So
and
I
don't
really
have
a
I,
don't
really
have
a
recommendation.
Other
then
I
kind
of
feel
pretty
pretty
epithet
ik
on
the
on
the
clean
part
that
that
might
not
make
a
lot
of
sense
and
that
we
at
some
point
we're
gonna,
have
to
look
at
probably
ticking
that
up
yet
fifty
percent,
some
pretty
arbitrary,
not
really
arbitrary,
but
it's
we're
probably
gonna
have
to
look
at
raising
that.
Yes,.
K
What
I,
what
I've
heard
and
I
don't
know
could
be
sure
white
sides,
as
if
it's
you
know,
is
that
if
they
were,
if
they
were
allowed
to
be
at
a
hundred
percent
right
now
that
it
would
be
that
maybe
maybe
in
the
fall.
If
everything
was
perfect,
they
might
hit
80
in
the
fall.
It's
just
not
gonna
happen.
Well,.
A
All
along
I
mean
I
think
the
idea
has
been
you
know.
Until
until
we
went
into
phase
there
was
no
no
one
from
outside
the
region.
Yeah
was,
you
know,
allowed
to
stay
in
lodging
in
the
county.
Unless
they
work
for
an
essential
business,
then
we
opened
it
up
to
Western
North
Carolina.
Now
we've
opened
it
up
to
50
percent
so,
and
that
idea
all
along
has
been
that
if
the
numbers
can
stay
stay
good,
then
it's
gonna.
You
know
that
that
restriction
will
will
come
off.
A
Of
course,
we
are
seeing
a
lot
of
bad
trends
since
phase
two
has
happen
both
locally
and
across
the
state.
So
I'm
glad
we
have
some
some
protections
there.
Just
because
what
is
you
know
it
is
you
know,
so
many
people
like
to
visit
this
area
and
some
of
our
neighboring
states
have
really
high
numbers
so
I'm,
looking
forward
to
that
restriction
being
lifted.
As
long
as
the
numbers,
you
know,
stay
manageable
in
there
they've
gone
up,
but
there
we're
still.
Our
hospital
capacity
is
good.
A
I
mean
I'm
optimistic
that
that
that
they
can
be
further.
There
can
be
further
flexibility
in
the
near
future,
but
I'm
glad
they're
there,
whether
they're,
right
now
personally
for
myself
I,
think
thinking
about
how
phase
two
hasn't
gone,
all
great
so
far
for
the
state
as
a
whole
and
for
for
Western,
North,
Carolina,
I.
Think.
O
A
O
Long
term
that
I
am
glad
we've
been
we've
exhibited
an
abundance
of
caution.
I've
talked
to
a
number
of
those
same
folks
as
well,
and
what
has
really
stuck
with
me
is
the
impact
that
it's
having
on
people
their
employees
who
come
the
end
of
July
will
no
longer
have
the
additional
assistance
that
they
need
and
once
that's
gone,
if
they
can't
bring
them
back.
What
that
does
for
the
livelihood
of
those
employees
and
for
folks
who
are
gonna
be
looking
for
work,
they
may
leave
the
jobs
that
are
on
hold
further
causing
additional
issues.
O
I
A
Q
R
A
R
Mean
that's
what
I've
heard
we're
the
only
one
for
99
counties
have
opened
the
hotels
to
100%.
So
why
are
we
waiting
for
the
governor
to
lift
restrictions
which
is
going
to
be
on
everything
except
hotels
when
Buncombe
County
is
the
only
one
that
has
got
restrictions
on
that?
I've
talked
these
people
and
I
agree
with
our
other
commissioners.
Here
they
got
to
have
60
70,
it's
like
they
said
they
can
do
40
50
percent
during
the
week,
but
on
weekend,
they're
capable
of
doing
95
percent
and
we
gotta
get
these
people
back
to
work.
R
I
mean
so
I'd
like
sooner
than
later,
go
ahead
and
lift
this
restriction
because
the
governor
has
lifted
and
nine
counties
and
I
think
it's
something
we
better
look
at
before
the
next
meeting,
because
utilize
rolling
around.
So
it
sounds
like
there's
enough
of
us
to
have
opinions
on
it
and
I'd
like
somehow
for
it
to
be
put
on
the
agenda
tonight
that
we
all
talk
about
it
more
I.
Just.
Q
A
I
I
Q
Number
that
forum
has
given
me
that
they're
about
30
to
40
percent
capacity
I
would
like
to
say
real,
quick
that
our
our
decision-making
process,
not
necessarily
waiting
just
for
the
governor's
guidance.
We
know,
there's
a
delay
in
our
number
trends.
You
know,
as
we
went
the
phase
one
you
know
we
had
four
to
six
weeks
to
see
the
true
impacts
of
that
same
as
we
went
to
face
true
with
four
to
six
weeks
to
see
the
true
impact
of
that.
Q
That's
that
that
four
to
six
week
window
is
what
we're
opening
right
coming
into
right
now
from
when
we
went
into
phase
two.
So
it's
not
just
waiting
to
see
what
the
governor
says.
It's
waiting
to
give
the
the
data
trends
they're
full
term
to
kind
of
see
where
they
go,
because
we've
seen
the
increase
in
it's
a
slow
plateau,
we're
seeing
right
now
we're
just
making
sure
they're
not
not
gonna.
Q
A
Me
ask
you
this
Fletcher,
because
I
think
the
in
dr.,
Mullen
or
anybody's
got
insights
under
this
I
guess
one
of
the
questions
I
have
about
it
is
you
know,
from
the
number
of
cases
that
are
documented,
the
region
and
I
realize
it's
a
lagging
process,
but
do
we
I
mean?
Are
we
are
we?
Are
we
getting
more
information
about
the
nature
of
where
a
lot
of
the
different
cases
do
you
originate
from
right?
A
Like
you
know,
you
talked
about
funerals,
you
know
one
of
the
recent
meetings
and
we
do
and
we
do
the
contact
tracing
to
the
extent
we
can
I
mean
I'm
all
for
I
mean
I
want.
You
know
these
businesses
to
get
back
on
their
feet
as
much
as
anybody
part
of
the
part
of
the
rationale,
I
think
for
the
policies
on
visitors
from
outside
the
region.
A
One
is
you
know,
I
think
there
is
some
logic
to
having
some
space
between
one
person,
spending
that
or
family
spending
the
whole
night
in
a
very
small
room,
and
then
someone
else
immediately
coming
in
having
some
space
there
there's
some
there's
some
good
science.
That
indicates
that.
So
that's
a
good
safety
protocol,
but
part
of
it,
too,
is
just
the
sheer
number
of
people
who
could
be
coming
to
Asheville
I
mean
we
have
the
highest.
A
We
have
the
highest
change
from
daytime
population
to
nighttime
population
of
any
metropolitan
area
in
the
in
the
state
of
North
Carolina
right
in
terms
of
the
number
people
who
sleep
in
Buncombe
County
at
night
who
actually
live
here
and
then
the
number
of
people
who
the
next
day
at
noon
are
here,
it's
the
highest
population,
change
of
anywhere
in
the
whole
state.
So
you
know,
part
of
the
concern
is
just
the
sheer
numbers
of
people
come
in
from
outside
who
could
be
coming
here
and
helping
drive
transmission.
A
But
do
we
have
data
indicating
you
know
it
is
restaurants,
reopening
it
is
tourists
visiting
that
our
factor
here
or
you
know,
that's
really
not
it's
really
other
social
spaces
that
the
the
data
is
pointing
to
as
a
primary
driver,
because
we,
you
know,
we
want
to
make
inform
smart
decisions
that
make
the
most
beneficial
impact
we
can.
So
what
are
your
observations
on
that?
So.
N
We
have
to
remember
that
the
cases
we
know
about
are
people
who
actually
live
in
Buncombe
County,
right
that
if
a
traveler
comes
here
and
then
goes
home,
we
won't
never
know
about
it
unless
they
identify
a
close-contact
that
lives
in
Buncombe,
County,
right
and
and
that
person
ends
up.
You
know
getting
tested
and
coming
down
positive
again.
What
we're
seeing
with
the
the
cases
recently
are.
N
You
know
just
people
getting
back
out
and
doing
things
that
they
did
pre
Cove
it
right
like
going
to
parties
going
to
the
beach
going
to
work
right
and
and
and
being
with
their
clothes
they're
having
close
contact
with
others,
anything
that
puts
them
in
contact
close
contact
with
others
and
so
I
think
that
that's
what
we're
seeing
it
as
as
those
restrictions
were
lifted.
It's
it's
hard
for
all
of
us
to
not
want
to
go
back
to
what
life
was
like
before
and.
A
So
I
think
this
I
mean
this
wouldn't
be
possible.
I
mean
obviously
protecting
people's
individual.
You
know
confidentiality,
but
it
would
it
be
possible
to
say
them.
Based
on
what
we
do
know
you
know,
here's
a
pie
chart
you
know,
25
percent
of
the
cases
came
from
that
we
could
track
down
where
we
have
a
pretty
high
degree
of
confidence.
This
person
likely
got
this
from
this
setting.
You
know
this.
Many
were
parties.
This
many
were
workplace.
This
many
were,
you
know,
were
church.
This
many
were
some
other.
A
N
Would
say
early
on,
it's
changed
right.
The
guidance
from
the
state
of
in
terms
of
what
information
we
gather
has
sort
of
changed,
and
so
I
could
look
and
see
what
how
easy
it
would
be
to
run
that
sort
of
report
versus
what
would
have
to
be
sort
of
based
on
our
internal
tracking.
That's
yeah,
I
mean
I,
could
look
and
see.
I
could
I
could
see
that
that's.
I
N
We
got
we
were
able
to
obtain
thirteen
of
the
contact
tracers
from
the
Community
Care
in
North
Carolina.
We
have
maxed
them
out
already
this
last
week.
We
really
got
were
able
to
use
them
and
we
have
maxed
them
out
to
their.
What
is
supposed
to
be
their
capacity
of
how
many
contacts
they're
supposed
to
be
tracing,
so
we've
put
in
a
request
for
additional
contact
tracers
because
again,
you
know
one
case:
yeah.
K
And
I
think
to
the
Chairman's
point:
is
that
I
know
and
I
know,
there's
some
things.
We
just
can't
say:
information,
that's
gathered,
that
is
personal
and
private,
and
we
can't
share
that.
But
a
lot
of
what
we're
hearing
is
is
and
I'm
not
saying
from
you
I'm
saying
just
in
general
winter
when
it
is,
is
avoid
those
gatherings.
You
know
the
things
that
are
common
sense,
but
we're
we
we
don't.
K
We
don't
know
that
you
know
I
I'll,
give
you
an
example:
I
went
for
the
first
time,
I'll
try
to
be
very
quick,
Sunday
I
went
Sunday
night
in
in
visited
a
church
with
most
of
the
commissioners
know
that
you
know
some
members
of
my
family
actually
go
out
into
ministry
and
sing.
So
for
the
last
several
months.
They've
not
done
that
out
of
an
abundance
of
caution
and
the
fact
of
you
know
the
churches
haven't
been
open
and
so
on.
So
we
went
and
visited
a
church.
K
K
If
you
are
at
risk,
you
sit
on
the
left
side
and
then
they
put
a
little
parenthesis
where
the
piano
is
so
to
make
sure
everybody
knew
that
that
side
of
the
church,
if
you
are,
you,
know
healthy,
if
you
have,
if
you
had
a
fever
security
team
sent
you
to
the
house
now,
I
can
tell
you
that
it
was
just
from
a
personal
standpoint
and
a
spiritual
standpoint.
All
of
that
precaution
did
not
change
the
experience
of
worship
in
that
church.
Now
they
did
not
allow
they
didn't
pass
the
plate.
K
There
was
all
kinds
of
different
things
had
done,
but
they
were
they
were
specific,
and
so
that's
one
of
the
reasons
that
you
know
when,
when
I
hear
it's
churches,
well,
it's
gatherings
and
a
church.
As
a
gathering,
but
it
may
not
be
that
churches
or
the
issue
in
Buncombe
County
because
they
were,
they
were
amazing,.
N
A
Talk
at
our
meeting
tonight
about
whether
we're
gonna
meet
next
week
on
the
budget,
we've
decided
we're
gonna,
have
a
special
meeting.
There's
also
been
some
discussion
about
perhaps
voting
tonight.
Can
we
just
talk
about
that
for
a
second,
because,
depending
on
partly
how
that
goes,
we
might
know
or
we're
gonna
have
another
meeting
in
the
near
future.
So
do
commissioners
have
any
I've
heard
some
folks
say
you
know
if
there's
not
a
lot
of
questions
and
I'll
probably
want
to
vote
on
the
budget
tonight.
A
If
there's
a
lot
of
questions,
I
might
want
another
week,
I
think
about
it.
That's
mostly
what
I've
been
hearing
from
folks.
So
does
anybody
want
to
make
a
strong
case
for
something
else,
or
just
wait
till
we
have
the
budget
hearing
and
kind
of
see
how
comfortable
we
are
proceeding
or
we
want
to
schedule.
Another
meeting
next
week
is.
A
P
P
Chairman's
point:
if
the
budget
is
adopted
tonight,
the
governor
intends
to
come
forward
with
new
guidance.
Our
water
does
expire
at
26,
so
we
need
to
think
about
what
Dave
would
be
want
to
do
a
meeting
to
talk
about
what
I
got
us
looks
like
for
the
next
iteration.
Do
we
scale
back
or
what
does
that
look
like
yeah.
P
A
R
The
hotel
discussion
would
be
next
week.
I
would
really
like
to
talk
about
that
tonight
because
seems
like
there
are
a
majority
looking
at
it
and
we're
the
only
County.
That's
like
this
and
I
mean
these
people's
got
to
go
to
work
and
the
thing
is
I
guess
one
of
my
questions
is
a
county
manager.
Does
the
staff
make
the
decision
if
we
go
a
hundred
percent
or
commissioners
make
that
decision.
P
R
A
R
A
Appreciate
that
it
would
have
to
be
a
consensus
to
add
it
to
the
agenda
I'm,
not
supportive
of
that
myself.
So
there's
not
a
consensus
to
to
make
that
decision
tonight,
but
I
would
be
happy
to
take
it
up
next
week,
like
for
the
staff
to
think
about
the
discussion
we've
had
and
and
come
back
and
make
a
recommendation
on
that
on
that
point.
But.
R
A
R
A
A
D
Just
wanted
to
first
of
all,
just
thank
Commissioner
Belcher
for
the
work
he's
been
doing
over
the
years
working
with
our
the
litigation
team
on
the
obeah
litigation
and
also
Michael
Frey
and
Brandon
Freeman
are
from
the
legal
department.
I've
had
the
opportunity
to
sit
on
a
working
group
that
NCAA
CC
has
convened.
D
D
There
are
also
a
rumblings
that
it's
moving
forward
slowly,
but
the
the
goal
of
the
NCA
CC
set
out
in
convening
this
group
in
its
counties
like
Burke
and
Guilford
and
Dare
County's
us,
is
to
see
if
there
can
sort
of
be
one
voice
around
specifically
the
way
settlement
funds
would
be
allocated
in
sort
of
a
global
settlement
that
would
address
all
the
litigation.
That's
on
the
table
with
the
same
defendants.
Basically,
and
the
point
of
some
of
the
points
of
discussion
have
been.
D
D
D
If
anyone
wants
to
talk
further,
just
let
me
know
and
I
would
be
happy
to
share
more
updates,
as
the
discussions
or
the
AG's
office
continues,
and
the
illegal
team
that
is
representing
Buncombe
County
on
many
other
counties
has
been
sort
of
offering
some
updates
and
council
about
settlements
happening
in
places
like
Ohio
in
Texas.
During
this
period,.
K
So
I'm
glad
to
hear
you
say
something,
commissioner,
because
I've
been
on
a
gag
order
for
a
few
years.
You
know
on
that
guess
we
did
this
two
years
ago,
but
there
is
some
censoring
interesting
perspective.
You
mentioned
the
AG
and
there
there
is
some.
You
know
friction
between
those
that
are
making
a
lawsuit
like
the
county
and
then
the
different
states
having
different
positions
and
because
it's
going
to
be
so
much,
you
know
money
that
you
know
will
be
used,
I
think
for
a
lot
of
good.
K
A
A
P
What
we
have
have
you
seen
outside,
we
have
marked
off
six
feet.
We
have
the
seats
in
here
six
feet,
so
what
we
would
allow
staff
to
fill
this
room
or
public
to
fill
this
room
first
and
then
we'll
bring
overflow
in
and
keep
six
feet
the
muster.
Ms,
we
would
provide
a
mass
to
the
public
as
they
come
in
to
the
build
in
and
then
they
can
take
it
off
to
speak
and
leave.
But
we
are,
we
do
have
the
six
feet
marks
off
outside
and
they
can
come
in
and
we'll
keep
this
room.
P
A
P
A
P
A
So
open
ideas,
my
suggestion
would
be
we
take
up
to
an
hour
for
public
comments
on
the
monuments
resolution
and
in
that,
in
that
anybody
we
don't
get
to,
we
would
publish
those
comments
so
that
they
become
part
of
the
record
as
well.
So
that's
that's
one
suggestion
what
are
other
people's
thoughts
suggest.
R
My
suggestion
is,
is
we
know
the
monument
yay
and
they
a
tear
it
down
or
replace
it
or
whatever
is
just
go
through
there
and
ever
how
many
is
for
it?
That
means
against
it.
I
just
don't
think.
That's
really
telling
the
story
of
what
everyone's
talking
about.
You
know,
there's
250,000
people
here
and
we
got
600
emails,
I
think
so,
if
it's
400
200
and
just
last,
who
was
for
who,
against
and
paged
on
the
website,
because
it's
gonna
be
the
same
story
over
and
over
and
over
again.