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Okay,
but
I
do
think
that
this
other
yeah,
an
interview
has
been
done.
I.
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C
So
we'll
call
the
meeting
to
order
our
may
18th
buncombe
county
commission
briefing
meeting
commissioners
we're
going
to
have
an
update
on
coven,
19
and
vaccine
efforts
at
our
briefing
meeting
and
have
a
detailed
presentation
on
the
facility
study.
That's
been
worked
on
this
year.
Commissioners.
Are
there
any
other
items
that
you
would
like
to
bring
up
on
the
briefing
at
the
briefing
meeting
today,
all
right?
If
not,
then
that
is
going
to
be
the
agenda
for
this
meeting?
C
C
D
All
right
so
I'll
just
start
over,
although
I
probably
could
have
projected
as
of
today,
there
have
been
17
802,
confirmed,
coveted
19
cases
and
within
buncombe
county
and
we've
experienced
315
covid
related
deaths
in
our
community.
D
D
So
they
don't
include
today's
data
that
I
just
went
over,
but
everything
from
yesterday,
and
so
we
saw
our
new
cases
per
100
000
per
week,
fall
below
50,
which
we
had
not
seen
in
some
time
and
our
percent
positivity
continued
to
fall.
As
you
can
see
here,
our
weekly
testing
numbers
did
decrease
slightly
after
seeing
an
uptick
and
we
did
experience
one
new
death
since
the
previous
week,
and
as
mentioned,
our
local
hospitalization
data
remind
remains
quite
slow
and
quite
low
with
a
slight
decrease
from
even
last
week.
D
So
you
can
see
that
that
2.2
percent
is
is
quite
low,
so
finally
saw
ourselves
get
out
of
that
orange
and
now
in
that
yellow
zone
for
the
new
cases
per
100
000
per
week.
D
And
so,
since
the
beginning
of
our
vaccination
efforts,
which
began
back
in
december,
buncombe
county
hhs
has
administered
over
90
000
doses
of
vaccine
through
those
efforts
and
with
the
efforts
of
all
vaccine
providers
in
buncombe
county
about
49
of
our
total
population
in
buncombe,
county
has
received
at
least
one
dose
of
vaccine
compared
to
41
percent
of
the
total
population
in
north
carolina.
So
please
note
that
that's
slightly
different
than
what
you
hear
the
governor
talk
about
when
he
talks
about
the
percent
of
adult
population.
D
And
so
I'd
like
to
note
that
when
I
was
looking
at
this
population
last
week,
the
state
actually
had
it
as
0
to
17
in
that
age,
group
and
they've
just
recently
changed
it
to
12
to
17,
because
0
to
11
is
not
is
not
eligible.
D
Beginning
may
10th
now,
first
and
second
doses
are
available
at
our
fixed
site
at
a
b
tech,
and
as
you
can
see
here,
this
slide
has
changed
over
time
and
you
see
a
lot
more
outreach
as
we've
shifted
those
gears
and
we've
increased
our
outreach
efforts
to
meet
people
where
they
are
including
events
that
are
aimed
at
equity
and
reaching
our
younger
unvaccinated
populations,
as
you
saw
in
the
previous
slide
that
don't
have
rates
quite
as
high
as
some
of
our
other
age
groups.
So
we
continue
to
vaccinate
our
homebound.
D
D
Every
week.
Just
last
week
we
hosted
events
at
pisgah
view
and
at
sandy
mush,
and
thank
you,
commissioner,
wales,
for
coming
out
to
sandy
mush
community
center
to
see
that
event.
You
actually
see
that
one
pictured
here
on
the
screen
we've
had
several
events
that
we
have
planned
in
the
next
few
weeks
that
include
partnering
with
faith-based
organizations
like
first
baptist
and
weaverville
and
an
event
at
big
ivy
and
finishing
up
some
planning
for
pop-up
events
at
upcoming
minor
league
baseball
games.
D
Again
in
order
to
have
that
wider
reach
into
the
population.
We've
begun
discussions
with
even
our
local
brewery
associations
and
our
restaurants
and
as
outreach
event,
demand
has
increased
and
we
have
events
already
scheduled
for
for
our
team.
We've
also
connected
those
partners
with
other
state
resources
and
vaccine
providers
who
can
meet
their
needs
like
star
med
in
order
to
get
vaccine
out
into
these
events.
D
D
You
know
our
hard
work
as
a
community
is
certainly
evident
as
we
as
we
see
those
metrics
change
from
our
commitment
to
the
three
w's
compliance
to
the
executive
orders
and
now
with
reaching
throughout
our
county
to
get
vaccine
into
arms.
D
D
We
want
to
see
that
same
decrease
in
new
cases
over
time
with
other
groups
and
have
them
be
just
as
protected,
and
until
you
do
get
your
vaccine,
we
still
recommend
that
you
follow
the
three
w's
new
cases
and
transmission
data
are
low,
but
it
is
still
very
possible
for
you
to
be
exposed
and
contract
covered
19.
So
please
protect
yourself
with
a
vaccine
and
help
us
further
rid
our
our
community
of
the
virus,
and
so
now
that
vaccine
is
available
to
anyone,
12
and
up
consider
getting
vaccinated
as
a
family.
D
Making
appointments
for
folks
who
have
not
yet
received
their
vaccine
and
please
visit
buncomberready.org
to
schedule
an
appointment
with
us
or
you
can
walk
in
at
our
a
b
tech
location
which
is
on
fernyhurst
drive
during
our
hours
of
operation
or
you
can
find
a
location
near
you
at
my
spot,
nc.gov
and
just
remember
there
is
a
vaccine
for
you.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
time
today.
E
C
It
is,
it
is
a
huge
accomplishment
and
the
period
of
time
that's
happened
is
remarkable,
so
it's
terrific,
if
something
if
someone
had
told
us
back
in
december
or
january
when
the
vaccines
were
being
approved,
and
we
were
also
concerned
about
like
how
is
this
all
going
to
play
out
on
the
ground?
You
know
never
done
this
before
to
to.
If
we
had
known
then
that
we
would
be
where
we
are
right
now.
C
D
Thank
you
for
that.
It
is
a
great
team,
and
so
thank
you
very
much
for
your
support.
You
are
a
big
part
of
the
success
as
well.
So
thank
you
for
that.
A
F
C
C
G
Thank
you
very
much
for
having
us
here
again.
We've
got
the
parisian
presentation
coming
up
here.
I'm
rachel
nielsen
good
to
see
you
back
after
last
month,
and
I
also
have
maureen
arndt
with
720
design.
H
H
It
was
really
important
to
the
library
and
to
the
consultants
to
dig
as
deep
as
we
could
into
these
really
community
focused
facilities
to
find
out
from
the
community
what
their
hopes
their
dreams,
their
expectations
and
especially
their
needs
were
for
library
services
moving
forward.
So
we
did
do
13
focus
groups.
H
How
do
they
use
the
library?
Most
people
go
there
to
check
out
books
and
to
attend
programs,
and
this
was
really
important
to
us
in
looking
at
how
space
should
be
allocated
moving
forward.
What
percentage
should
be
looking
at
the
collection
and
some
of
your
libraries?
Don't
have
community
meeting
spaces,
and
so
that
told
us
how
important
that
was,
and
then
what
was
the
biggest
thing
that
prevented
people
from
using
the
existing
facilities
and
by
far
the
biggest
reason
people
gave,
was
parking
so
related
to
kind
of
the
accessibility
of
the
facilities
as
a
whole.
H
We
also
asked
the
community
what
they
thought
would
be:
a
good
partnership
between
county
services
and
library,
services
and
the
three
that
they
identified
as
being
most
important
were
help
for
job
seekers,
so
a
place
where
people
can
go
to
fill
out
an
application
learn
about
jobs,
online
academic
achievement
so
that
lifelong
learning,
as
well
as
a
school
age,
learning
and
then
senior
services.
So
how
do
we
assist
those
65
and
older
with
technology
and
materials.
H
So
that
was
great
for
us,
because
we
really
want
to
hear
from
that
group
to
find
out
what
is
it
that
the
library
can
offer
that
will
draw
more
of
the
population
in
to
use
the
library,
and
then
you
can
see
from
the
chart.
There
was
a
a
pretty
nice
distribution
actually
of
people
from
each
of
the
libraries
that
they
identified
as
their
individual,
the
library
that
they
use
from
that.
We
are
also
able
to
look
at
the
responses
library
to
library
so
different
from
the
focus
groups.
H
So
when
we
started
the
process
meeting
with
the
county
meeting
with
the
library,
we
really
identified
four
drivers
for
for
the
facilities
moving
forward,
the
first
being
to
really
take
a
close
look
at
the
leased
facilities.
What
is
their
physical
condition?
How
does
it
function
as
a
library?
How
are
they
serving
the
community
and
what
needs?
What
is
the
price
tag
on
that
to
make
them
the
most
useful
as
possible,
and
then
second
was
looking
at
the
overall
condition
of
the
facilities
from
infrastructure
to
finishes
to
furniture?
H
We
also
identified
the
the
east,
asheville
library,
construction,
staffing
issues
and
staffing.
You'll
hear
me
talk
about
a
few
other
times
during
this
presentation.
One
of
the
big
points
on
staffing
is
that
the
library
currently
has
about
51
hours
every
week,
where
there's
only
one
staff
member
in
a
given
library
and
that's
both
an
efficiency
problem,
but
also
a
safety
problem
for
for
library
staff
and
then
looking
at
the
drive
time
you're
in
a
unique
county
with
we
can't
look
at
the
crow
flies.
H
H
And
that's
what
this
map
really
starts
to
illustrate
for
us.
We
worked
with
your
gis
department
to
look
at
what
is
the
population
served
for
each
of
the
libraries,
and
so
it's
not
a
grid.
It's
really
determined
by
some
of
those
natural
features
that
are
beautiful,
but
may
prevent
you
from
getting
to
the
closest
library
that
as
a
crow
flies,
but
in
the
top
left
corner
you
can
see
the
population
served
for
each
of
the
branches
as
they're.
Currently.
H
The
state
of
north
carolina
is
silent
in
their
standards
on
the
size
of
the
library
per
capita,
but
other
states
do
speak
to
it,
and
so
we
looked
at
what
most
other
states
refer
to
as
the
ideal
square
footage
per
capita
and
it
ranges
from
0.6
to
being
good
0.8
being
excellent
and
1
square
foot
per
capita.
For
being
exemplary
and
as
a
team,
we
set
the
0.8
square
foot
per
capita
as
the
goal,
and
you
can
see
from
this
chart.
H
So
in
the
10
years
of
population
growth,
that
number
has
certainly
gone
gone
down
again
and
then,
with
the
gis
map,
we
were
able
to
look
at
each
individual
library
and
how
they
rank
in
terms
of
square
footage
per
capita
and
where
the
biggest
needs
really
are.
So
we
looked
at
2010
and
then
we
looked
at
2020,
so
the
population
estimates
not
based
on
census
numbers
quite
yet,
but
the
county's
comprehensive
plan
numbers
and
with
some
at
the
blue
number,
the
black
numbers
are
numbers
where
we're
increasing
the
size
of
a
library.
H
With
those
increases
in
mind
for
between
20
and
2020
and
2025,
we
can
get
up
to
that
point,
eight
square
feet
per
capita
and
then
looking
out
2035
for
population
increases.
We
can
maintain
that
0.8
square
feet
per
capita
and
I'm
going
to
dig
into
each
of
those
individual
libraries
further
in.
H
So
we
know
where
the
we
mapped
where
library
card
holders
live,
we
can
look
at
their
drive
times
and
we
worked
with
gis
on
these
numbers
as
well.
There's
a
lot
of
information
on
this
slide,
but
this
slide
summarizes
at
that
point.
Only
0.2
percent
exceed
30
minutes
of
driving
to
their
closest
library,
2.2.4
drive
between
20
and
30
minutes
and,
as
a
point
of
reference,
your
state
standard
calls
out.
H
So
this
is
not
about
how
it
functions
as
a
library
in
terms
of
its
layout.
It's
not
about
the
staffing,
it's
purely
about
the
infrastructure
of
the
building
and
so
of
the
43
libraries
that
were
evaluated
by
the
team
over
half
of
the
43
county
buildings.
Over
half
of
the
libraries
were
in
the
bottom
third
of
the
ranking,
including
swannanoa,
which
was
43
out
of
43..
H
So
there's
definitely
some
facilities,
challenges
and
opportunities
to
look
at.
I
also
want
to
point
out
that
three
of
the
buildings
that
are
in
that
bottom
third
are
buildings
that
are
leased
by
the
county,
so
not
in
your
control.
Those
are
the
least
facilities
that
we're
looking
really
closely
at
east.
The
new
east
branch
that
just
opened
is
not
part
of
this
list
because
it
wasn't
available,
but
I'm
sure
it
would
be
number
one
were
we
to
do
that.
B
H
It's
also
an
opportunity
to
replace
some
of
the
the
shelving.
Some
of
it
is
in
pretty
poor
condition
and
not
functional
for
21st
century
collection
and
then
finally,
looking
at
the
service
points
that
are
in
each
of
the
libraries
and
coming
up
with
a
standard
modular
service
desk
and
then
even
for
buildings
that
will
be
replaced.
Those
are
two
things
are
things
that
can
move
with
them
right.
The
collection
is
able
to
be
moved.
A
modular
service
desk
could
be
moved,
so
be
an
investment
today
and
an
investment
in
the
future
as
well.
H
So,
right
now
you
have
a
lot
of
hubs
that
all
circle
around
pac
and
what
we
talked
to
them
about
was
creating
some
new
bigger
regional
libraries
that
are
spun
off
of
technical
services
and
administration,
and
those
regional
libraries
could
support
their
own
area.
Libraries
outside
of
the
ring-
and
there
are
a
bunch
of
reasons
why
that
really
makes
sense
for
buncombe
county.
H
It
starts
to
get
these
libraries
integrated
into
larger
communities.
We
can
have
more
full
service
opportunities
at
each
of
those.
There
is
less
duplication
of
materials,
less
duplication
of
staff,
and
that's
really
important
for
that
staffing
challenge
that
we
talked
about
of.
How
can
we
redeploy
staff
to
help
keep
more
than
one
staff
person
at
any
individual
library.
H
The
operations
costs
are
lower,
so
fewer
buildings
fewer
to
maintain.
Although
larger
we
can
start
to
look
at
eliminating
or
phasing
out
lease
spaces
and
then
it's
an
opportunity
to
plan
for
things
like
adequate
parking
as
well
as
possible,
co-location
of
other
county
departments
at
new
library
facilities
so
where
it
makes
sense
to
be
a
shared
space.
H
So
we'd
like
to
start
by
looking
at
the
center
at
a
new
admin
technical
service
outreach
center,
as
well
as
a
new
pac
main
library
and
those
two
items,
maybe
continue
to
be
in
the
same
location.
They
could
also
be
separate
an
administration
technical
services.
Outreach
center
is
more
of
a
distribution
center
than
a
place
for
the
public
to
go.
H
So
it
is
possible
to
look
at
those
as
two
separate
buildings
moving
forward,
if
that's
what
the
county
and
the
library
desire
so
in
terms
of
needs-
and
now
I'm
referring
back
to
that
one
of
those
very
first
charts
that
we
saw
we're
looking
at
a
need
for
the
pac
library
to
be
about
65
000
square
feet,
the
existing
building's
52.
So
it's
a
little
bit
bigger
than
the
existing.
H
C
H
C
H
H
So
we
talked
about
identifying
a
new
and
still
central
location
for
pac
and
it
possibly
a
separate
or
a
same
location
for
admin,
technical
services
and
then
we're
including
outreach,
and
this
is
new
for
the
library
to
expand
in
terms
of
providing
some
additional
services
like
pop-up
library,
services
vending,
possibly
bookmobile
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that
further
in
and
then
there's
also
an
opportunity
right
now
to
look
at
library,
services
in
combination
with
affordable
housing,
with
some
of
the
new
potential
funding.
H
That's
coming
out,
so
I'm
going
to
roll
right
into
that
part
of
it
to
start
with,
and
we
worked
with
your
gis
department
again
to
identify
population
incomes
and
so
on.
This
map,
the
lighter
the
green,
the
more
affordable
housing
is
needed,
so
the
lower
the
income-
and
you
can
see
it
really
centers
around
pac
and
the
city
of
asheville.
H
This
map
shows
the
library
users
that
are
in
that
same
area,
so
there's
a
high
density
of
library,
users
around
pac,
and
then
I've
got
a
couple
of
case
studies
to
share
with
you.
Both
of
these
are
in
chicago
chicago,
starting
in
2016,
started
designing
these
combination,
library,
affordable
housing,
combinations
in
their
branches.
H
So
these
are
two
examples,
the
first
being
this
one
that
was
built
in
2019.
It's
a
total
of
sixty
five
thousand
square
feet.
The
library
is
smaller,
it's
about
sixteen
thousand
square
feet,
so
the
city
of
chicago
actually
has
eighty
branches
and
they're
all
about
sixteen
thousand
square
feet.
So
that's
how
their
system
is
set
up
and
then,
above
the
library
are
22
senior
living
units.
H
H
It
provides
affordable
housing
where
it's
most
needed,
and
then
it
starts
to
really
create
some
community
spaces.
So
the
library
shares
some
meeting
spaces
some
gallery
spaces
some
programming
spaces
with
the
community
above
there's
outdoor
spaces
that
are
activated
by
the
library
as
well,
and
then
with
the
people
that
are
living
in
these
units.
There's
that
opportunity
for
intergenerational
programming
and
interaction
as.
H
H
H
H
We
also
have
an
example
of
a
remote
tech
services.
Admin
outreach
center,
so
this
is
dekalb
county
georgia.
They
have
23
branches,
so
a
little
bit
bigger
than
you,
and
this
building
is
bigger
than
what
you
would
need.
It's
about
40
000
square
feet,
but
it
starts
to
show
how
that
might
work
as
a
distribution
center,
where
trucks
can
make
deliveries
of
materials
that
can
be
processed
and
then
sent
out
to
all
of
the
branches
administration
located
there.
H
H
H
H
There
are
other
counties
and
cities
that
are
looking
at
bookmobile
opportunities
as
opportunities
for
not
just
the
library
but
for
other
county
services
as
well,
so
get
a
permit
register
to
vote,
have
wi-fi
hot
spots,
have
pop-up
programs
all
drawn
out
of
a
bookmobile
and
then
on?
The
bottom
left
is
a
book
vending
machine,
so
this
vending
machine
allows
you
to
either
have
a
book
delivered
to
that
location
that
you've
placed
on
hold.
You
can
browse
the
catalog.
You
can
like
the
old
sandwich
machines
where
the
books
went
around
in
a
circle.
H
You
can
browse
that
use
your
library
card
check
a
book
out
and
then
the
the
green
grand
prairie
libraries
is
a
locker
system
kind
of
like
amazon
delivery
system.
So
the
when
you
put
a
book
on
hold
or
material
on
hold
the
library
places
it
in
the
locker
gives
you
a
code.
You
can
pick
it
up
24
hours
a
day,
so
this
works
really
well
for
those
remote
locations.
It
also
works
for
people
that
have
schedules
outside
of
the
library
hours,
so
expanding
that.
H
We've
got
some
drive
times
for
oakley,
the
first
one
we
want
to
talk
about
is
swatanoa
and
black
mountain.
These
two
branches
are
both
leased
facilities
in
your
community
they're,
some
of
the
smallest,
and
they
were
some
of
the
the
lowest
ranked
facility
analysis
that
we
had
so
some
some
challenges
with
with
the
building.
Certainly
when
we
talked
to
the
community
about
these
buildings,
they
said
three
things
in
particular
about
black
mountain,
that
it's
too
small
for
a
growing
community,
that
the
parking
isn't
adequate
and
there
are
accessibility
issues.
H
H
The
property
and
the
buildings
are,
the
black
mountain
is
owned
by
the
city,
and
swatanoa
is
owned
by
the
communi
there's
a
community
organization.
I
believe
that
owns
that
one.
C
Okay,
so
we
don't
the
account
booking
county,
doesn't
own
them,
but
they're,
not
but
they're,
controlled
by
public
entities
right
correct,
so
I
mean
I
guess
just
the
observation
would
be
if
we
wanted
to
have
like
long-term
certainty
around
the
use
of
those
sites.
If
we
wanted
to
keep
them
there
rather
than
move
them,
you
know
negotiating
something
like
that.
Very
well
might
be
possible.
H
Absolutely,
but
we
also
have
the
opportunity
here
to
combine
these
two
really
small
branches
into
one
larger
full-service
branch
that
starts
to
solve
some
of
the
other
challenges
as
well,
that
that
staff
can
also
be
combined.
So
without
adding
more
staff
to
the
system,
you
can
increase
the
number
of
staff
to
that
same
building
the
site.
H
H
H
Bit
of
data
that
we
learned
as
we're
looking
at
the
market
segment
analysis,
this
map,
the
pink,
shows
library
card
holders
for
black
mountain
and
the
brown
shows
library
card
holders.
That
say,
swananoa
is
their
home
library
and
you
can
see
from
this
map
how
many
people
in
the
swantanoa
region
are
already
going
to
black
mountain
to
use
the
library.
H
So
that's
that
starts
to
speak
to
a
combined
library
service
as
well.
We
don't
have
an
answer
as
to
why
that's
happening.
I
think
we
can
guess
that
black
mountain
being
downtown
has
other
things
that
you
can
do
once
you
get
there.
So
it's
more
of
a
destination,
although
swannano
is
in
the
park
and
it's
a
it
is
a
beautiful
location.
If
the
building
were
in
better.
H
And
these
are
in
order
of
the
the
timeline,
the
loose
timeline
that
we're
talking
about
addressing
each
of
these
libraries.
So
weaverville
is
the
the
next
one
on
the
list
of
looking
at
this
replacement
in
two
years,
weaverville
has
no
dedicated
parking
spaces,
and
so,
of
course,
that's
the
biggest
challenge
there.
H
A
west
asheville
library
is
next
on
the
list
in
about
six
years,
with
a
replacement
branch
of
about
25
000
square
feet,
because
that
is
out
six
years.
There
are
some
maintenance
issues
to
address
there,
including
new
carpet,
plumbing
mechanical
repairs
and
new
shelving
that
could
be
reused
in
a
new
facility.
H
Was
actually
the
the
highest
ranked
in
terms
of
the
facilities,
because
it's
one
of
the
newest,
it
also
serves
one
of
the
largest
populations,
and
so
that's
one
that
will
need
to
be
either
enlarged
or
replaced
in
the
next
seven
years
or
so.
There
are
just
a
couple
of
little
issues
and
challenges
that
they're
having
there
with
electrical
work,
their
service
desk
and
a
real
need
for
a
drive
up
service
window
in
that
location.
H
H
H
And
then,
finally,
what
we've
talked
about
with
oakley
is
really
keeping
an
eye
on
what
happens
at
east
a
lot
of
the
library
users
that
live
in
the
oakley
area
actually
drive
to
east
or
to
pack
right
now,
and
so
with
that
new
facility.
We
want
to
really
track
what
services
look
like
what
circulation
looks
like,
and
we
do
know
that
oakley
is
a
really
popular
location
to
pick
up
materials,
so
keeping
that
as
one
of
the
lockers
or
vending
area
as
well
as
a
center
for
outreach.
H
So
we
did
hear
from,
for
example,
the
shiloh
community
they'd,
really
like
a
library
service
close
to
them
and
so
that
opportunity
for
outreach
to
do
a
pop-up
library
program
at
their
community
center,
maybe
story
time
saturday
morning.
Maybe
homework
help
tuesday
afternoon
on
a
regular
basis
that
really
expands
that
that
outreach
oakley
is
among
those
bottom
third
of
the
facility
condition.
H
H
So
this
is
again
a
blow
up
of
the
market
segment
analysis
and
I'm
going
to
go
to
the
next
slide,
because
on
this
one
it
shows
you
from
the
market
segment
analysis
people
within
one
mile,
59
of
them
chose
to
use
oakley,
40
percent,
41
percent
chose
to
use
another
library
and
it's
typically
east
or
pack.
H
Okay,
we're
going
to
go
out
to
the
third
ring,
the
area,
libraries
and
the
vending
locations
we've
discussed
already
so
now
we're
getting
out
to
the
10
years
and
beyond
the
the
scope
of
the
facilities
master
plan,
I'm
starting
with
the
leicester
library,
it'll
be
the
first
one
that
needs
an
addition
of
about
8
000
square
feet.
H
Lester
is
really
lucky
they're
on
a
really
great
piece
of
property.
There's
a
lot
of
space
around
it,
and
I
know
the
library
staff
has
been
coming
up
with
plans
to
really
really
utilize
that
space
for
things
like
community
gardens,
outdoor
amphitheaters
outdoor
activities
and
so
expanding
in
the
short
term
that
space
by
using
the
the
outdoor
space
and
in
the
long
term,
they
will
need
additional
space
for
sure.
H
Fairview
outside
of
the
scope
of
the
study
is
when
they'll
need
some
additional
space.
There
is
some
space
outdoors
at
fairview
that
could
be
better
utilized
with
a
little
bit
of
grading
work.
Maybe
security
work
it's
on
a
pretty
steeply
sloped
site,
but
there
is
a
possibility
for
integrating
some
outdoor
reading
gardens
some
outdoor
programming
spaces
and
some
small
reconfigurations
to
the
inside
their
library
users
have
changed
over
the
years.
H
H
H
Recarpeting
is,
is
really
needed.
Sooner
than
later
there,
the
carpet
is
kind
of
rolling
and
it's
becoming
a
safety
challenge
and
that'll
give
you
the
opportunity
to
rearrange
the
shelving
it's
on
an
angle.
Can
we
straighten
it
out
and
fit
a
little
bit
more
into
that
building
to
get
you
through
the
next
10
or
15
years?.
H
I
My
understanding
of
why
weaverville
was
ahead
in
the
timeline
of
west
asheville,
just
because
an
earlier
slide
with
the
building
conditions
had
west
asheville
in
worse
condition
than
in
weaverville.
So
I
wanted
to
understand
that
and
I'll
go
ahead
and
ask
my
second
question,
which
is-
and
maybe
I
missed
this
when
you're
discussing
pac
library.
H
So
I'll
address
the
first
last
question.
First,
rachel
with
cpl
is
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
our
ideas
for
where
pac
might
go
still
in
the
downtown
area,
we've
been
exploring
an
area
on
cox
avenue
as
a
possibility
for
relocation
of
pac
and
then
in
terms
of
the
the
order
of
weaverville
versus
west
asheville.
H
J
And
I'll
just
have
a
question
or
a
comment
on
the
when
you're
talking
about
the
vending
locker
services.
J
I
have
to
admit
I
just
really
can't
kind
of
quite
understand
that,
from
a
library
perspective
of
wanting
to
go
out,
I
just
really
don't
not
sure
that
I
see
those
being
utilized,
but
I
do
think
your
idea
of
the
pop-up
in
the
community
centers
in
shiloh,
in
the
out
you
mentioned
barnersville
big
ivy
has
a
community
center
those
type
of
places,
maybe
the
pop-ups,
could
work
and
potentially
there.
That
seems.
H
H
A
J
H
I
mean
as
an
architect
that
mid-century
building
is
very
it's
very
cool.
It's
very
welcoming.
I
agree
when
I
visited
that
library.
I
walked
it
and
then
went
across
the
street.
There's
a
great
thai
restaurant.
I
had
lunch,
and
so
even
for
me,
as
a
visiting
consultant,
it's
a
lovely
place
for
a
library
absolutely,
and
I
don't
know
where
the
right
location
is
for
it
moving
forward.
H
But
there
are
some
really
big
challenges
with
with
it
at
the
moment,
the
first
it's
not
owned
by
the
county
and
so
the
the
maintenance,
the
challenges
for
it
being
a
functional
library,
are,
are
great
and
the
site
isn't
big
enough
to
support
the
parking
and
the
size
building
that
a
community
of
that
size
really
needs
now.
Is
there
a
location
somewhere
in
black
in
black
mountain
that
we
could
do
a
two-story,
20,
000
square
foot,
building
with
60
or
80
parking
spaces?
H
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
that.
If
there
is
that,
that
would
be
the
most
obvious
and
fabulous
answer,
because
that's
what
the
community
really
needs-
and
I
love
that
they're
so
attached
to
the
library.
That's
the
library's
goal
in
every
community
right
to
view
that
community
hub
to
be
the
gathering
place
to
be
the
place
where
you
go
to
to
meet
your
neighbors
and
to
be
able
to
walk
to
it
and
then
walk
to
a
restaurant
or
walk
to
a
store.
Is
is
awesome.
C
But
doesn't
that
almost
kind
of
preclude
having
these
libraries
in
kind
of
your
traditional
downtowns
right
I
mean
because
you're
kind
of
talking
about
sort
of
a
more
suburban
model
of
you
know,
building
surrounded
by
a
big
parking
lot.
I
mean
you're
not
going
to
find
that
in
downtown
black
mountain.
I.
A
A
C
H
Well,
parking
was
the
biggest
barrier
to
use
for
the
libraries
as
a
whole,
and
black
mountain
in
particular
had
three
pages
of
comments
from
the
community
of
there's.
Not
it.
They
all
address
three
things:
parking,
accessibility
and
the
size
of
the
building,
and
the
community
is
right
about
those
three
things.
And
so
that's
the
challenge.
Do
we?
F
I
think
that's
where
it's
going
to
be
really
important
to
make
sure
that
we're
widely
sharing
the
results
of
those
surveys,
I'm
not
surprised
to
hear
those
things,
but
based
on
the
emails
that
we
received,
I'm
beginning
to
think
that
there
were
a
lot
of
very
passionate
library
users
who
didn't
participate
in
those
focus
areas
and
maybe
had
they
known
about
it,
had
better
opportunity
to
access
it.
I
don't
know
what
the
challenge
was.
We
might
have
had
some
some
different
responses
to
that.
F
So
I
do
want
to
be
really
cognizant
that
it's
going
to
be
highly
important,
that
we
widely
share
that
information.
As
I
listen
to
you
know,
you
talk
about
the
number
of
teens
that
walk
to
the
libraries
after
school,
how
it
becomes
a
central
central
place
for
you
know
homework.
It
also
makes
me
think
about
one
of
the
reasons
I
think
we
were
so
excited
about
the
east.
Asheville
library
is
the
opportunity
for
outdoor
recreation
and
learning
by
being
outside,
and
for
me
that
expands
into
how
we
can
better
engage
our
teens
in
our
libraries.
F
I
know
I
walked
to
my
library
a
lot
as
a
teenager
growing
up
in
a
small
town
and
how
important
that
was
to
shaping
my
academics
and
my
love
of
the
library.
So
I
don't
want
to
forget,
as
we
move
forward,
how
key
the
library
can
be
to
not
only
to
our
little
kids
but
our
teenagers
as
they
as
they
grow
up.
I
think
that's
such
a
neat
component
of
being
in
a
you
know,
a
small
town
where
you
have
that
access.
F
It
does
make
me
think,
though,
and
I'm
probably
have
a
lot
more
to
say-
I
get
really
excited
about
the
libraries
y'all,
but
commissioner
walls,
I
loved
your
point
about
the
vending
that
I
actually
was
really
excited
over.
Here
was
like
vending
libraries,
that's
so
cool,
but
it
does
make
me
think
that
there
is
a
place
for
those,
particularly
where
parking
is
a
challenge
to
access
the
library.
It's
busy.
You
have
that
opportunity
just
to
run
in
and
push
in
your
code
and
out
comes
a
book
which
is
really
exciting.
F
I
want
to
go
do
that
right
now,
but
it
may
increase
access
to
to
reading
for
folks,
particularly
those
of
us.
You
know
who
are
working
really
long
days
and
can't
always
access
the
library
you
know
on
a
monday
through
friday
or
even
a
saturday
morning.
So
I
think
there's
some
really
exciting
components
of
this
that
I
look
forward
to
seeing
how
we
can
put
into
action
to
increase
access
to
learning
for
residents
of
buncombe
county.
H
B
G
I've
got
that
on
the
next
next
series
of
slides.
So
oh.
B
G
B
I
I
That
shows
the
swans
users
of
the
black
mountain
library.
I
think
we're
thinking
about
this.
You
know
if
you
go
back
to
slide
29
that
has
all
the
hubs.
I
I
think
we're
all
assuming
you're,
recommending
that
we
put
the
larger
regional
hub
in
in
black
mountain
and
have
the
smaller
branch
in
swannanoa,
and
I
guess
I'm
looking
at
that
map
on
on
slide
31
of
yeah
that
map
right
there.
Looking
at
that
map,
I'm
wondering
if
the
larger
newer
branch
could
theoretically
be
put
placed
in
swannanoa
and
then
have
a
smaller
hub
or
whatever
word
it
is
you're
using
in
in
black
mountain.
I
didn't
know
what
your
thoughts
were
on
that.
H
That's
not
something
we
explored
quite
yet,
but
it's
definitely
worth
reviewing
and
understanding
the
population
of
black
mountain
is
bigger
than
swannanoa
and
people
are
driving
from
swannanoa
to
black
mountain
now.
But
yeah
we'd
have
to
look
at
how
we
think
that
might
change
if
the
bigger
library
were
in
swannanoa.
C
The
proposal
was
to
have
a
bigger
library
in
black
mountain
and
to
close
the
swan
library.
That's.
H
K
Just
very
briefly,
there's
a
lot
about
this
process
that
that
really
appeals
to
me,
because
it
feels
like
it's
asking
the
question
of
how
we
best
serve
the
needs
of
our
community
and
how
libraries
evolve
and-
and
I
think
the
east
asheville
library
is
a
really
sterling
example
of
what
that
looks
like
and
at
the
same
time
I'm
also
just
you
know,
hearing
from
many
many
community
members
at
a
very
emotional
level.
It
reminds
me
of
the
conversations
about
potentially
closing
schools
or
churches.
K
You
know
that
that
libraries
play
this
other
role
in
our
community.
That's
just
that
that
it's
not
about
nostalgia.
It's
about
sort
of
a
rootedness
and
a
sense
of
community.
K
And-
and
I
think
that
as
we
move
forward,
it
feels
like
I
don't
know-
I
mean
I
guess
I'd
be
interested,
maybe
in
what
it
would
look
like
to
play
out
some
scenarios
where
there
were
some
remodelings.
K
Some
of
these
maybe
were
remodeled
if
we
found
a
municipal
or
a
leasing
partner
that
was
open
to
that
kind
of
thing
and
just
kind
of
thought
about
a
library
system
that
maybe
spoke
to
that
piece
of
it
as
well.
I
don't
know
if
that
not
an
architecture
designer
I
don't
know
what
that
would
mean
at
a
functional
level.
It
feels
like
this
is
pushing
the
whole
system
in
that
direction,
which
maybe
is
is
where
we
need
to
land.
K
But
I
just
wonder
about
that
other
piece
about
the
that
other
function,
that
library
plays
you're
an
architect.
You
could
probably
speak
to
that
very
eloquently.
I
know
that's
something
you'll
think
about
a
lot,
but
I've.
What
I'm
hearing
from
community
members
is
is
something
that's
really
important
in
in
our
community
that
we
find
ways
to
sort
of
recognize
and
preserve
those
places
that
have
hold
that
meaning
for
people.
K
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that,
as
we
move
forward
in
this,
even
as
there's
a
lot,
that's
very
exciting
to
contemplate
that
we're
not
losing
sight
of
that
piece
that
with
so
much
changing
in
our
community
so
fast
that
there's
something
special
here
that
I
wouldn't
want
us
to
lose.
As
we
move
forward.
H
Yeah,
it
is
a
very
emotional
decision
around
libraries
and
I
see
that
in
a
lot
of
communities
and
that's
really
kudos
to
the
library
and
the
library
staff
to
have
really
built
those
relationships
over
time
and
certainly
anything
that
you
do
moving
forward,
really
needs
to
support
and
build
that
up
and
really.
I
should
have
said
this
at
the
very
beginning
that
all
of
these
recommendations
are
built
really
around
the
condition
of
the
facilities.
H
The
staff
at
buncombe
county
libraries
is
really
amazing.
I
mean
they've
done
a
shocking
number
of
programs
and
community
outreach
with
with
the
resources
that
they
have
and
so
we're.
The
hope
is
that
this
plan
brings
the
facilities
up
to
meet
the
staff
where
they
are
help
support
all
of
those
activities
that
make
it
so
beloved,
because
I'm
not
sure
it's
so
much
the
buildings
that
people
are
attached
to
in
some
cases.
H
Maybe,
but
it's
really
that
feeling
of-
and
we
heard
this
in
the
online
survey-
the
library
staff
feels
like
family
they're,
always
there
to
answer
my
questions
whenever
I
need
help
the
library
staff
is
there
for
me.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
that
all
of
this
is
related
to
bringing
these
facilities
up
to
to
meet
the
quality
of
the
staff.
D
C
And
look
at
that,
this
property,
some
more
just
one
other
just
comment
I
would
make.
I
appreciate
the
the
creativity
in
terms
of
thinking
about
like
mixed
use
of
property
in
some
cases-
and
you
know
residential
and
libraries,
and
things
like
that-
I
mean
it
looks.
It
looks
cool
doing
it
that
way
and,
of
course,
there's
a
huge
housing
need
in
the
community.
You
know
I
would
also
just
sort
of,
on
the
other
hand
kind
of
say
you
know
the
the
more
elements
you
add
to
these
projects.
C
Of
course,
the
more
complicated
they
get
to
right
like
doing
affordable
housing
is
complicated.
You
know
these
projects
the
way
they're
incentivized
by
the
national
policies
and
stuff
tax
credits.
You
know
it's
in
some
ways
you
know
doing
a
libraries
I
mean
we
worked
on
the
east,
asheville
library
for
years
and
years
turned
out
fantastic.
I
think
we're
so
excited
about
it,
and
but
it
took
years
and
years
and
and
then
doing
you
know
every
every
one
of
these
you
know
bigger
housing
projects
that
we
work
on.
C
We
see
how
complicated
they
are
trying
to
do
them
together.
Of
course,
just
makes
it
more
complicated
too.
So,
just
to
kind
of
say
you
know,
I
think
that
it's
certainly
something
we
should
be
open
to
and
try
to
think
about
best
use
of
properties,
but
in
some
cases,
kind
of
keeping
things
simpler.
There's
there's
good
arguments
for
that
that
as
well
I
mean-
and
just
you
know,
thinking
about
like
if
you
be
like
in
some
cases,
if
you
needed
to
add
a
parking
garage
to
a
project
to
do
both.
C
C
I
guess
you
know
we
should
be
open
and
I
appreciate
the
creativity,
but
in
some
cases
you
know
the
simpler
solutions
for
housing
and
libraries
might
make
sense.
You
know
they're,
not
they.
They
won't
all
make
sense
on
every
on
every
property.
So.
H
That's
that's
definitely
correct
and
just
looking
at,
and
I
think
somebody
complimented
gis
they've
been
a
great
partner
in
this.
I
could
call
them
with
any
question
they
could
help
us
map
it,
but
that
gis
map
of
show
that
shows
where
it's
really
needed
really
is
kind
of
the
center
core.
So
I'm
not
sure
that
we
were
recommending
it
outside
of
pac,
but.
C
C
G
Done
with
so,
I
just
want
to
bring
it
back.
These
are
a
couple
of
slides
that
we
showed
last
month
again
looking
at
maintenance.
We
talked
about
maintenance
costs
of
those
facilities
over
the
next
15
years.
So
just
highlighted
again.
That
also
includes
some
of
that
escalation
costs
overlaying
those
three
that
are
leased
facilities
and
then
here
is
the
the
question
on
some
of
these
like
what
they
would
be
kind
of
capital
projects.
These
are
costs
that
assume
av
ffa
soft
costs
included.
G
G
Moving
on
to
the
cox
avenue
opportunities
at
our
last
discussion,
we
talked
about
we,
we
looked
at
the
kind
of
common,
the
number
of
properties
that
this-
that
the
county
owns
really
within
a
pretty
small
area,
couple
block
area
on
cox,
avenue,
focusing
primarily
on
50
cox,
avenue,
two
sawyer,
sorry,
one
ravenscroft
and
52
cox,
avenue
two
of
those
properties
have
current
buildings
on
them.
So
again,
50
cox,
avenue
has
the
board
of
elections,
distribution
and
1.
G
52
cox
avenue
has
that
small
3
000
square
foot
building,
which
has
air
quality
and
some
hhs
admin.
We
discussed
that
relocation
potential
relocation
previously
so
again,
looking
at
those
talking
about
a
new
board
of
elections
facility
because
of
the
pretty
fairly
urgent
need
for
relocating
that
staff
out
of
the
current
leased
facility
on
77
mcdowell
and
then
what
opportunities
there
are
here
on
cox
avenue
in
order
to
kind
of
build
something
to
a
little
bit
bigger
scale
than
just
a
10
000
square
foot,
one
or
two
story:
building.
G
We
looked
at
that
that
property,
where
the
the
distribution
center
is
with
understanding
that
that
might
not
be
the
right
location
for
what
is
a
distribution
center
in
a
storage
as
opposed
to
being
a
site
where
people
regularly
the
public
regularly
comes
so
that
site
that
building
and
those
uses
could
be
relocated
elsewhere
outside
the
downtown
area,
with
that
property
potentially
becoming
available
for
other
opportunities,
and
so
in
terms
of
just
a
square
footage
conversion
that
particular
property
where
the
distribution
center
is,
is
about
21
000
square
feet.
G
If
you
were
to
use
the
entirety
of
the
property
42
000.
Is
that
larger
one
and
we
are
assuming
zero
setbacks
along
streetscapes.
G
G
We
looked
at
affordable
housing,
we
looked
at
library,
tech
services
and
we
looked
at
board
of
elections,
so
those
are
the
five
programs
that
are
included
and
really
every
single
one
of
these
four
options
just
to
show
you
kind
of
the
extent
that's
possible
again.
None
of
these
are
specific
recommendations.
G
So
in
this
first
option
there
is
a
library
services
board
of
elections
at
that
distribution,
center
site
that
yellow
and
green
on
the
plan
view
with
some
surface
parking
and
then
at
the
longer
site
there
is
a
parking
structure,
three-story
library
and
multi-story
residential,
and
so
we've
actually
done
the
analysis
of
how
many
units
that
equals
at
this
site
and
how
many
parking
spaces
that
equals
at
this
site.
G
G
The
the
downside
to
this
particular
model
is
that
separation
of
the
library
across
two
different
properties.
It
can
be
handled
with
different
library
services
in
different
areas,
but
it's
probably
preferred
to
keep
it
all
at
one
site
and
again
we're
still
looking
at
this
one
has
about
120
residential
units,
but
other
than
that.
We're
really
still
looking
at
the
same
size,
spaces
and
the
same
quantities
of
spaces
on
the
third
option.
G
G
G
I
It
looks
like
it's
repeated
a
couple
other
places,
but
wanted
to
confirm
what
ground
level
habitable
area
meant,
and
then
the
quantity
of
parking
space
is
how
that
was
calculated.
It's
just
there's
just
a
tremendous
amount
of
parking
in
this
area
of
downtown
already,
and
so
I
just
just
disappointed
when
that,
when
we
create
more
of
it,
so
just
wanted
to
find
out
how
that
was
calculated.
G
So,
with
the
habitable
area,
that's
a
zoning
requirement
that
their
a
parking
deck
cannot
be
located
right
on
a
key
pedestrian
street,
which
cox
avenue
is
so
there
has
to
be
a
two-story
space
right
along
that
key
to
pedestrian
street.
That
is
not
parking
that
can
be
county
services
that
could
be
retail.
That
could
be
other
uses.
It's
just
not
parking.
G
Not
necessarily
housing
or
it
wouldn't
be
housing,
I
should
say
in
terms
of
habitable
in
in
terms
of
the
parking
structure
we're
looking
at
about
120
residential
units.
So
if,
if
there
was
one
vehicle
space
assigned
to
each
residential
unit,
then
you're
left
with
that
240
spaces
that
can
be
used
for
for
county
staff.
It
can
be
used
for
visitors,
it
could
be
used
for
other
events,
things
like
that,
and
so
we
were
just
targeting
that
360
as
kind
of
what
was
possible
in
that
area.
G
C
This
may
not
be.
This
probably
was
not
your
job
to
look
at
this
so
but,
and
it's
maybe
it's
you
know,
I
know
it's
up
the
street
one
thing
that
just
kind
of
parker's
point
there's
a
lot
of
parking
in
this
general
part
of
downtown
I'd
be
interested
in
seeing
how
the
county's
parking
garage
up
the
street
is
utilized.
Whenever
I'm
over
there.
It's
got
enormous
capacity.
C
So
and
again
I
realize
it's
not
right
here.
So,
for
you
know
for
certain
uses,
that's
you
know
maybe
not
directly
relevant,
but
if
it'd
be
possible
to
share
that
information
on
like
the
daily
utilization
of
that
deck.
G
G
Think
is
spaces
are
leased
out
by
a
third
party.
G
Nope,
that
was
it
I
we
have
pulled
together,
the
the
non-library
and
the
library
projects
on
this
one
and
then
just
kind
of
next
steps.
What
we
talked
about
last
month,
too,
was
trying
to
bring
together
that
kind
of
final
presentation
for
you
in
june,
and
anything
else
you'd
like
to
see
bringing
wrapping
that
up
to
make
sure
that
you
have
all
this
information
that
you
may
need
for
any
of
your
other
budget
discussions.
C
And
the
idea
was
to
maybe
temporarily
utilize,
the
metal
building,
the
blue
metal
building
for
election
services
in
the
short
term.
If
we
could,
if
we
could
move
there
and
then
and
then
it
might
get
demolished
and
something
new
get
built
on
that
property,
but
to
use
it
in
the
interim
as
it
can
be.
Yes,.
E
C
Okay,
just
have
a
couple
other,
maybe
just
comments.
The
I
mean
I
think,
there's
there's
a
lot
to
think
about
here.
So
this
is
good.
This
is
exactly
the
kind
of
you
know.
Kind
of
briefing
meetings
are
a
great
place
to
kind
of
put
all
this
out.
C
You
know
I
think,
there's
like
in
a
way
I
kind
of
like.
Although
I
have
a
lot
of
questions
about
different
specific
pieces,
I
mean
in
a
way
I
also
just
I
kind
of
like
the
whole
thing
I
mean,
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
logic
to
it.
If
you
were
building
something
from
scratch,
it
would
probably
look
like
exactly
like
this,
but
of
course
you
know
we're
not
building
it
from
scratch.
C
We've
got
all
the
stuff
that,
as
it
exists
in
the
world
today,
and
so
you
know,
and
just
in
different
parts,
I
mean
part
of
it
just
kind
of
goes
to
this
question
of
what
elements
you
know
do
we
want
to
have
kind
of
built
into
the
library
the
library
pieces
I
mean
having
the
community
space
is
great,
of
course,
but
there's
also
a
lot
of
other
community
spaces
in
the
community.
There's
you
know,
libraries
are
not
the
only
place
to
do
that.
C
I
think
the
workforce
development
stuff
is
interesting,
but
I
also
know
that,
like
ab
tech
is
really
interested
in
doing
some
kind
of
center
at
ab
tech
around
you
know
kind
of
a
place
for
people
to
come
for
workforce
development.
So
it's
like
is:
is
the
library
the
best
place
to
put
that
or
is
creating
some
kind
of
new
kind
of
one-stop
place
at
the
ab
tech
campus
the
right
place
to
do
it?
C
I
think
there's
just
a
lot
to
think
through
on
all
of
this,
but
I
appreciate
the
presentation
and
I
think
it's
gonna-
you
know-
create
a
lot
of
good
conversations
around
all
those
different.
All
these
different
pieces,
so
any
other
comments
or
questions
at
this
time.
E
I
think
netsteps
we
would
bring
this
back
because
as
a
briefing
they're,
not
looking
for
discussion
or
did
we're
looking
for
discussion,
but
not
decisions,
so
we
really
wanted
to
get
your
feedback
on
what
that
final
report
will
look
like
when
we
came
before
you
last
time
we
thought
regional
was
where
we
were
headed,
but
now
we've
got
some
feedback
and
lots
of
community
dissent.
E
G
E
The
june
15th
meeting,
so
this
gives
us
time
to
go
back
and
really
refine
our
input
and
give
your
final
report.
We
will
be
looking
from
that
final
report,
for
where
do
we
go
next.
D
E
A
15-year
plan,
so
we
know
that
we
can't
accomplish
all
on
the
list,
and
we
don't
know
what
parts
of
this
we
could
use
from
that
money
that
is
coming
as
well,
so,
okay,
so
our
plan
would
be
to
bring
you
back.
A
final
report
on
that
june.
15Th
see
what
parts
you
want
us
to
move
forward
with
and
then
plan
it
out
in
the
next
couple
of
years,
where
we
would
go
from
there.
K
Thanks,
that's
helpful,
I
guess
just
at
the
high
level
in
terms
of
response
to
the
various
options
for
cox
avenue.
I
I
would
be
interested
in
whether
there's
some
opportunities
to
sort
of
include
any
elements
that
might
sort
of
make
this
a
little
bit
more
of
a
hub
or
like
there's,
certainly
a
lot
of
important
function.
The
library
will
be
attracting
a
lot
of
people.
K
Housing
would
but
like
there's,
not
a
place
downtown
to
buy
groceries,
for
instance,
or
you
know,
and
just
thinking
about
elements
like
that
that,
like
might
just
sort
of
speak
to
some
of
the
I
don't
know.
D
K
It,
I
guess
I'll
leave
it
there,
some
other
pieces
to
that
development
project
that
might
kind
of
draw
people
in,
but
also
speak
to
some
of
the
needs
that
we
know
exist,
especially
for
people
who
are
using
the
public
transit
system
who
might
be
using
services
at
the
library
who
might
be
attracted
to
or
who
might
be
in
affordable
housing.
K
C
I
would
I
would
I
would.
I
would
kind
of
echo
that,
because
I
mean
part
of
what
makes
it
so
unique
is
that
it
is
literally
across
the
street
from
the
single
largest
public
transit
hub
in
western
north
carolina
right.
So,
if
you
think
about
the
question
of
what
facilities
and
services
would
you
want
to
have
within
a
single
transit
ride,
for
like
every
single
person
in
buncombe
county,
who
is,
you
know,
lives
close
to
a
transit
route
like
if
you
put
it
there,
then
you
put
you
put
that
within.
C
Like
a
single,
you
know
no,
no
transfers
needed
for
every
single
person
in
the
community,
so
yeah,
like
you,
know
a
grocery
store
or
market
things
like
that.
Those
are,
I
think,
those
are
all
good
questions
to
to
think
about.
They,
probably
don't
all
have
to
be
decided
at
every
level
of
detail
at
this
stage,
because
if
we
move
forward,
I'm
sure
there'll
be
more.
There
would
be
more
individualized
planning
process
around
every
one
of
these
different
pieces,
but
I
think
they're
good
questions
to
elevate
as
well
right
and.
E
G
And
to
the
question
earlier
on
the
habitable
area,
something
like
a
grocery
store
is
that
kind
of
can
probably
serve
that
kind
of
need,
and
so
maybe
looking
at
the
lower
levels
of
a
parking
deck
as
something
that
serves
those
kinds
of
things
really
starts
to
integrate
that
a
little
bit
thanks.
Thank
you.
C
What's
one
other
just
high
level
question
I
mean
there's
a
there's.
This
proposal
is
all
about
facilities
and
thinking
ahead,
and
you
know
contemplating
pretty
major
expansions
of
a
lot
of
facilities.
C
J
C
The
few
places,
if
you
just
implemented
the
plan
as
proposed
there
would
be
some
efficiencies
and
some
savings
by
closing
some
of
the
smaller
facilities,
but
are
consolidating
them
so,
but
but
I
assume
that
would
be
like
a
bigger
operating
cost
right.
These
are
much
larger
facilities
than
what
buncombe
county
operates
today
by
you
know,
orders
of
magnitude.
C
So,
as
we
talk
further
about
this,
then
it
might
be
also
helpful
to
just
kind
of
get
some
like
you
know
benchmarks.
If
you
build
facilities
in
this
size,
then
you
know
be
prepared
that
you
know
your
operating
costs
are
going
to
be
more
in
these
neighborhoods
than
you
know
than
where
they've
traditionally
been.
E
C
K
E
C
Yeah,
just
the
last
thing
I
would
share
is
just
you
know.
I
think
there
are
lots
of
good
ideas
here.
You
know
when
I
think
about
it
at
a
high
level.
There's
a
lot
of
stuff
in
here.
I
think
that
we
should
you
know,
I'm
you
know
conceptually
supportive
of
you
know.
I
do.
I
think
part
of
the
reason
proposals
like
this-
that
think,
big
and
think
long
term
are
helpful.
C
Is
that
it
kind
of
raises
the
questions
about
like
okay,
you
know
like
what
are
our:
what
are
our
highest
priorities
right,
so
I
like
a
lot
of
what's
in
here
when
you
think
about
the
next
10
to
15
years,
though
you
know
there
are
a
lot
of
other
priorities
too,
and
so
you
know
I
mean
I
think,
when
I
think
about
buncombe
county
over
the
next
10
to
15
years.
I'd
like
to
see
us
like
you
know
what
we're
doing
at
lee
walker
heights.
A
C
To
do
that,
right,
financially
and
otherwise,
but
transforming
those
neighborhoods,
I
think,
is
one
of
the
most
important
things
that
we
can
do
to
really
make
our
community
better
over
the
next
10
to
15
years,
and
so
you
know,
as
we
think,
about
this
important
department
in
the
county,
we
also
need
to
think
about
how
it
you
know
how
it
fits
into
our
other
priorities
as
well,
because
it
is
this
is
this
would
be
a
big.
You
know
this
would
be
a
big,
a
big
commitment.
C
It
would
be
funding
at
a
higher
level
and
there's
a
lot
to
it.
That,
I
think
is
is
is
great,
but
you
know
I
think
it's
just
we
have
to.
We
have
to
think
about
all
those
different
priorities
as
we
contemplate
these
kind
of
commitments,
because
if
we
approve
this
plan,
you
know
whatever
whatever
plan
we
do
approve.
C
You
know,
as
we
will
remember
from
our
friends
in
east
asheville,
like
people
will
remember
it
like
people
will
say.
If
you
did,
if
you
say
you're
gonna
do
this,
you
know
you
better
be
prepared
to
do
it,
so
I
think
we,
you
know
we
have
to
take
all
of
that
really
seriously,
because
the
community
is
really
interested
in
all
of
this.
So
anyway,
just
to
say
thank
you
for
all
your
work
on
this.
I
think
it's.
C
C
Yeah,
you
know
I'm
again,
I
think
the
downtown
property
is
definitely
a
place
where
we
should
look
at
doing
something.
You
know
potentially
significant
and
you
know
our
affordable
housing
subcommittee
has
been
looking
at
how
to
scale
up
our
work
in
these
areas,
and
I
don't
want
to
get
into
all
the
weeds
on
that.
But
there's
there's
a
lot
of
significant
opportunities
there.
C
So,
anyway,
look
forward
to
talking
further
about
all
that
all
right
avril
is
there
anything
else
we
need
to
address
during
the
briefing
all
right,
then
I
think
we
are
adjourned
and
we
will
be
back
at
five
o'clock.