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From YouTube: Board of Commissioners' Regular Meeting (April 6, 2021)
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Regular Meeting of the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners for April 6, 2021. To view the meeting agenda, or future meeting agendas, please visit buncombecounty.org/commissioners.
A
A
A
In
accordance
with
the
code
of
ethics
adopted
by
the
board,
all
county
commissioners
have
a
duty
to
obey
all
applicable
laws
regarding
official
actions
to
uphold
the
integrity
and
independence
of
the
office.
To
avoid
impropriety
in
the
exercise
of
official
duties,
faithfully,
perform
the
duties
of
the
office
and
to
conduct
the
affairs
of
the
governing
board
in
an
open
and
public
manner.
B
A
On
the
agenda,
the
outcome
of
which
would
have
a
direct,
substantial
and
readily
identifiable
financial
impact
for
any
board
member
does
any
board
member
have
a
financial
interest
in
the
public,
any
public
contract
coming
before
the
board.
Today,
there
being
none
all
board.
Members
have
a
duty
and
obligation
to
vote
on
any
matters
voted
on
by
the
board
at
this
meeting
all
right,
commissioners.
Are
there
any
questions
about
any
items
on
the
consent
agenda.
A
C
Great
so
hi,
I'm
avi,
I'm
with
the
organic
growers
school
a
nonprofit,
supporting
farmers
and
gardeners
here
in
western
north
carolina
and
tonight,
I'm
speaking
out
in
support
of
the
proposed
increase
of
500
000
in
the
budget
for
land
conservation
in
buncombe
county.
I
want
to
thank
terry
wells
for
bringing
forth
this
proposal.
This
increased
funding
towards
land
conservation
is
not
only
a
step
towards
mitigating
ongoing
climate
change
and
habitat
loss,
but
also
an
investment
in
preserving
farming
and
farmland
and
ultimately
addressing
the
major
issue
of
food
and
security
in
buncombe
county.
C
According
to
feeding
america,
there
were
over
31
000
food,
insecure
people
in
buncombe
county
in
2020,
and
we
know
this
data
is
likely
underreported
further.
It
does
not
account
for
the
many
who
may
be
able
to
eat,
but
cannot
access,
safe,
healthy
or
local,
clean
food,
let
alone
be
active
participants
in
our
food
system
to
feed
more
families.
We
have
to
support
locally
and
sustainably
grown
food,
or
it
will
never
stand
a
chance
against
heavily
subsidized
conventional
competitors.
C
To
do
that,
we
need
to
protect
farmland
in
addition
to
feeding
people,
preserving
local
land
farmland
and
farm
adjacent
land
will
ensure
that
farming,
a
key
part
of
the
landscape
of
this
county,
can
continue
being
a
livable
livelihood
for
members
of
our
community
and
a
driver
of
economic
development.
What
are
we
doing
to
build
the
next
generation
of
food
growers
here
for
our
county
for
our
region?
It's
an
important
opportunity
to
invest
right
in
our
own
backyards,
for
only
0.15
of
the
county's
annual
budget.
C
It's
also
critical
that
we
recognize
local,
sustainable
food
for
what
it
can
be
an
emergency
preparedness
strategy.
The
u.s
has
lost
tens
of
millions
of
acres
of
open
land
to
development
over
the
last
several
decades,
including
lots
of
our
best
farmland,
coupled
with
the
takeover
of
the
farming
sector
by
big
ag
and
large
corporate
farms.
We
have
now
seen
that
it
has
eroded
the
resilience
of
our
food
system
and
made
our
bodies,
communities
and
food
systems
more
susceptible
to
detrimental
impacts
of
crises
like
cobia
19..
C
C
Small-Scale
farming
is
more
than
an
idyllic
way
of
life.
It's
a
livelihood
that
is
being
made
more
difficult
by
misplaced
subsidies
and
it
needs
your
support.
This
is
also
an
opportunity
to
make
local
farming
jobs,
equitable
and
accessible
to
a
more
diverse
group
of
people,
not
only
in
the
demand,
but
in
the
supply
of
our
local
food
and,
as
we
know,
diversity
leads
to
even
more
resilience.
Locally
kovitz
showed
us
how
we
are
all
as
vulnerable
as
the
least
protected
in
our
society,
and
this
is
true
in
so
many
more
ways
than
infection.
C
I
will
leave
you
with
a
vision
of
the
future.
What
would
it
look
like
if
we
had
thriving
farms,
healthy
land,
water,
air,
fresh,
locally,
produced
food,
served
in
every
home,
etc?
Now
is
not
the
time
to
be
timid
in
protecting
our
land
resources.
We've
got
what
it
takes
to
solve
this
here.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
time
and
for
this
proposal.
D
Our
next
person
for
public
comment
is
bob
machin.
D
D
E
It's
dina,
but
I'm
I'm
commenting
on
the
sexual
orientation,
the
soji
laws,
because
my
concern
is
that
these
laws
are
the
laws
that
are
already
written,
cover,
discrimination
and
vote.
The
laws
that
are
written
cover
discrimination
and
I'm
voting
against
that,
and
I
hope
you
all
do
too.
It
says
the
laws
that
are
soju
laws
that
are
being
passed
have
no
religious
exemption.
E
Soji
laws
make
free
speech
and
religious
freedom
for
a
vast
number
of
americans
and
the
soji.
The
freedom
to
live,
visibly
according
to
our
beliefs
is
a
fundamental
right,
resting
on
our
human
dignity
and
codified
by
the
first
amendment,
and
it
shouldn't
be
traded
away.
So
I
would
encourage
to
vote
against
that
and
it
does
affect
just
women's
privacy.
Soji
laws
force
sex,
specific
facilities,
like
the
women's
shelter
for
survivors
of
domestic
violence
opened
by
opened
by
a
massachusetts
pastor.
E
The
non-profit
was
forced
to
take
legal
action
to
stop
men
who
identify
as
women,
access
to
changing
rooms
and
living
facilities
of
the
vulnerable
women
who
he
was
seeking
to
help.
So
that,
and
also
I
just
I
just
hope
and
pray
that
we
vote
against
that,
because
I
don't
think
it's
going
to
help
it's
already
covered
under
our
rights
and
laws
that
we
have.
Thank
you
very
much.
D
F
Okay
good,
so
you
can
hear
me
because
I'm
out
here
in
the
street
and
that's
where
the
citizens
are
at
out
here
in
the
traffic
the
cars
running
up
and
down,
I
know
y'all
going
to
talk
about
that
a
little
bit
today,
but
I
don't
think
you
all
want
to
hear
what
citizens
have
to
say
because
you
done
said.
You
can't
call
that
a
commissioner
individually,
you
have
to
address
all
of
them
individually.
F
It
was
done
because
when
the
board
that
looked
at
it
was
picked,
you
had
to
be
committed
to
repurposing
or
tearing
it
down.
I
won't
talk
about
people,
that's
on
that
board
and
their
connections
to
the
county,
commissioner,
because
everybody's
able
to
see
that
so
it's
basically
a
snow
job
from
day
one,
and
I
want
you
to
realize
the
more
you
push
that
the
more
you're
creating
a
division
between
the
races,
pure
and
simple.
F
But
you
don't
want
to
hear
that
you
don't
care
about
it,
you're
going
to
do
what
you're
going
to
do,
but
I
will
call
you
out
in
other
forms.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
opportunity
by
the
way,
there's
another
little
hidden
thing
on
this
deal
about
plugging
cars.
In
you
know
it's
supposed
to
save
money
and
everything,
but
you're
going
to
have
to
increase
the
power
bill,
because,
if
you
put
more
of
these
plug-in
car
sites
in
the
county
garage,
your
electric
bill
is
going
to
go
up
now.
F
B
G
G
G
They
will
use
it
as
a
weapon
against
me
and
I
can
be
penalized
thousands
of
dollars
and
be
sued
by
them
for
forcing
me
to
hire
an
attorney
and
then
in
this
process
I
could
lose
my
savings,
my
business,
my
home.
This
ordinance
will
limit
my
freedom
as
a
north
carolina
at
will
employer
instead
of
creating
jobs
and
finding
the
right
fit
for
my
business,
I
will
be
encouraged
to
leave
buncombe
county
or
lose
my
hard-earned
assets.
G
This
ordinance
has
an
inherent
conflict
because
it
offers
an
exemption
for
religious
organizations
on
hiring,
but
not
for
people.
Like
me,
a
homebuilder
who
is
being
compelled
by
this
ordinance
to
participate
against
my
deeply
held
religious
beliefs
by
hiring
a
transgender
person.
It
is
a
violation
of
my
constitutional
first
amendment
right
also.
It
is
not
fair
to
expose
transgender
people
to
a
male-dominated
construction
site.
Believe
me.
B
G
Prod
this
broad
sweeping
ordinance
is
dangerous
not
only
to
the
economy
of
buncombe
county,
but
also
it
will
boomerang
to
cause
greater
harassment
and
division
to
our
transgender
population,
which
is
less
than
one
percent
in
north
carolina
right
now.
Their
complaint
is
that
they're
living
in
fear
of
an
attack
and
discrimination,
which
is
not
good,
but
I
fear
even
worse
for
them
that
this
ordinance
will
actually
create
physical
violence
to
them.
We
already
have
laws
against
that,
and
rightly
so.
G
D
H
Hi,
my
name
is
grant
millen
and
I'm
a
long
time,
buncombe
resident
my
family
moved
here
in
1980
we
were
part
of
developing
downtown
asheville
gerbat
into
what
it
is
today,
and
I
just
wanted
to
comment
on
that.
I
I've
sent
you.
I've
commented
about
persons
with
disabilities,
persons
with
disabilities
quite
a
lot
with
city
of
asheville.
H
What
that
woman
just
said
a
minute
ago,
there's
some
untruth
in
there:
they're
in
that
protected
classes
aren't
businesses,
because
if
everybody
is
a
protected
class,
no
one
is
a
protected
class
african
americans
peop
persons
with
disabilities
are
protected
classes
and
there,
and
it
should
be,
I
believe,
lgbtq
folks-
are
protected.
Class
too.
H
There's,
non-discrimination
policy-
I'm
not
saying
there
shouldn't
be
a
non-discrimination
policy
that
that's
for
lgbtq
folks,
but
when
you
lumped
in
the
disabled
now,
you'll
have
to
prove
to
me
wrigley's,
because
they're
they're
really
are
very
they're,
very
weak,
there's
a
very
weak
advocacy
universe
for
the
disabled
in
bunker
county,
I'm
afraid
I'm
afraid
I
I
don't
know
how
you're
going
to
do
things
an
employment
realm
for
the
disabled.
H
H
You
know
a
disabled
person
can
be
a
veteran
of
course,
and
and
I'm
going
to
talk
in
the
future
more,
hopefully,
I'm
going
to
get
a
chance
to
talk
more
in
the
future
about
how
the
disabled
fit
in
with
equity
inclusion
and
things
like
changing
public
safety
approaches
to
public
safety.
I
want
to
talk
with
the
few
seconds
I
have
left.
I
want
to
talk
about
the
35
000
for
the
vision
document
as
to
what
happens
after
the
vance
monument
is
gone.
H
I
have
a
article
on
that
subject
of
an
art
piece,
that's
patriotic
and
it's
interesting
to
go
in
there
and
by
going
first
I've
kind
of
set
the
bar
higher.
It's
actually
good
thing,
because
I'm
giving
people
a
contrast
to
how
deborah
campbell
will
do
things
with
that
consulting
job.
I
look
forward
to
sharing
more
later
bye.
I
Good
evening,
chairman
chairman,
newman
and
commissioners,
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
address
you.
My
name
is
john
h
grant
and
I'm
speaking
this
evening
on
behalf
of
the
interdenominational
ministerial
alliance
concerning
the
non-discrimination
ordinance,
we
have
essentially
five
concerns
about
our
concerns
in
five
areas.
About
this.
This
ordinance
number
one
a
lack
of
community
engagement.
I
We
do
not
believe
our
community
has
been
given
enough
opportunity
to
discuss
and
ask
questions
about
the
ordinance
to
inclusivity.
All
segments
of
our
community
should
be
given
adequate
opportunity
to
have
their
voices
heard
before
a
final
vote
is
taken.
Equitability.
Does
this
ordinance
against
discrimination
for
one
or
more
groups
in
our
community
discriminate
against
other
groups
in
our
community
number?
Four
freedom
of
speech
does
disorders
clearly
protect
every
citizen's
right
to
freedom
of
speech,
while
not
violating
the
rights
of
any
and
last
number.
Five
is
freedom
of
religion.
I
Does
this
ordinance
clearly
protect
every
citizen's
freedom
of
religion
and
does
not
violate
the
freedom
of
religion
of
any?
We
respectfully
request
that
you,
as
our
representatives,
delay
your
scheduled
vote
on
this
ordinance
to
allow
ample
time
for
our
community
to
engage
and
to
ask
questions
and
to
get
feedback
from
our
elected
representatives,
which
are
what
you
are
of
course,
specifically
on
page
four
of
the
ordinance
g
as
it
addresses
the
exception.
I
It
mentions
that
this
ordinance
shall
not
apply
to
a
religious
corporation
association,
educational
institution.
Our
concern
is
with
that
language.
We
don't
know
what
you
mean
by
a
religious
corporation,
a
religious
association.
We
have
some
thoughts
in
our
mind,
but
many
of
our
churches
are
not
incorporated,
so
does
that
mean
that
that
church
would
not
qualify
as
a
religious
corporation?
I
And
then
it
goes
on
to
talk
about
the
the
work
has
to
the
work
performed
has
to
be
connected
with
the
caring
owned
by
such
corporation,
and
our
concern
is
also
who
defines
what
connect
it
is.
It
just
seems
to
us
that
there's
a
lot
of
vagueness
here
and
we
just
appeal
to
you
to
give
the
community
an
opportunity
to
be
engaged
before
you
pass
a
law
finalize
this
ordinance
that's
going
to
affect
all
the
citizens
of
our
community,
and
I
thank
you.
I
J
Yes,
I'm
about
this
anti-discrimination
ordinance.
I
I
think
it's
looking
for
a
problem
that
doesn't
exist.
I
already
have
discrimination
laws,
anti-discrimination
laws,
and
I
think
this
puts
a
burden
on
a
business
owner,
especially
it's
going
to
be
something
like
he
said
she
said
and
I
think
it
would
tie
up.
I
agree
that
there
shouldn't
be
discriminations
against
lgbtq
people,
but
it
shouldn't
be
a
special
category.
J
I
think,
if
you
look
at
the
laws
as
they
currently
exist,
and
I'm
sure
they're
in
nashville
that
there
are
laws
that
against
discriminations
of
all
type,
it
would
be
wise
to
just
enforce
these
laws
and
not
single
out
a
group
for
special
protection,
and
this
is
this
is
something
that
I
I
just
think
would
be
wise
to
not
pass.
And
beyond
that.
I
I
can't
without
repeating
myself
just
say
this
is
what
I
feel
is
true.
So
I'm
gonna
yield
the
rest
of
my
time
to
someone
else.
Thank
you.
K
K
I
was
born
here
educated
and
worked
providing
care
for
the
underserved
and
those
in
need
of
health
care
in
many
different
settings
in
western
north
carolina
with
concerted
time
in
buncombe
county,
I'm
familiar
with
lgbt
two
individuals
for
whom
I've
provided
care.
As
a
nurse
practitioner
personally,
I
see
a
disconnect
between
the
discrimination
you
have
cited
and
what
I
have
actually
observed
in
the
health
care
arenas
in
our
in
our
county.
K
Having
this
background,
these
questions
are
in
at
the
forefront.
Please
outline
the
research
you
conducted
in
buncombe
county
to
ferret
out
the
discrimination
in
our
county.
How
many
people
did
you
randomly
interview
as
to
this
discrimination?
Did
you
interview
a
wide
swath
of
community
residents?
How
did
you
control
for
your
own,
perceived
biases?
K
Why
such
a
short
time
for
consideration
for
this
ordinance,
I
would
venture
to
say
a
board,
would
unlock
six
months
or
greater
to
consider
such
an
ordinance
as
far-reaching
and
seek
input
from
the
public?
Why
did
why
so
many
coal
groups
within
the
ordinance
most
have
protection
under
the
law?
Please
give
me
two
to
three
case
scenarios
of
how
this
ordinance
would
be
administered
from
beginning
accusation
to
mediation.
Walk
me
through
from
beginning
to
end
how
a
claim
of
discrimination
would
be
submitted,
verified
and
mediated.
K
K
L
I
want
to
definitely
echo
the
same
concerns
and
observation
that
I
stand
in
collaboration
with
my
colleagues
that
was
drafted
in
the
concerns
of
the
five
areas
in
which
dr
grant
shared
so
helically
about.
I
want
to
say
this
again
in
regards
to
those
five
areas
and
looking
at
this
ordinance
of
discrimination.
L
It
is
a
grave
concern
now
as
the
senior
pastor
of
greater
works
church
of
god
in
christ.
I
want
to
share
with
you
my
my
sentiments
and
that
I
oppose
it
due
to
the
simple
fact
of
the
lack
of
transparent
transparency
and
the
full
disclosure
there's
a
lot
of
gray
areas.
That
ties
into
a
lot
of
information
with
this
ordinance,
and
I
want
to
oppose
it
because
of
my
religious
freedom
and
my
freedom
of
speech
and
our
business
practice.
So
I
thank
you
that
you
had
opportunity
giving
us
the
opportunity
to
share
about
this.
L
I
share
with
you
the
same
as
the
lady
before
me
that
this
should
take
time.
No,
it
shouldn't
be
warp
speed,
as
we
have
said,
but
it
should
take
time
of
speaking
with
individuals
throughout
the
community.
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
be
able
to
speak
with
you,
bye-bye.
D
It
looks
like
you're
having
trouble
unmuting
yourself.
There
you
go.
D
D
F
F
F
F
F
I've
had
a
35-year
plus
year
in
corporate
reorganization,
specialist,
consulting
in
21
industries,
both
in
the
u.s
and
in
europe,
and
this
ordinance
causes
me
a
great
deal
of
consternation,
especially
for
the
business
sector
of
our
community,
and
the
last
thing
we
want
to
do
is
create
a
hardship
for
business
owners,
entrepreneurs,
individuals
wanting
to
come
to
this
area
to
invest
in
our
in
our
communities,
and
I've
read
over
the
proposals
and
immediately
there's
some
alarms
that
do
go
off
right
away,
the
very
title:
ordinance
prohibiting
discrimination
in
employment
and
public
accommodations.
F
That's
just
a
screen,
a
smoke
screen.
My
first
thought
is:
what
are
they
covering
up,
because
in
my
30,
almost
over
35
years
of
employment
or
working
with
21
industries,
discrimination
was
not
an
issue.
We
always
looked
for
diversity
of
anyone
that
was
capable
in
both
character
and
qualifications,
and
that
was
just
this
is
something
that's
been.
I
think,
taken
and
blown
way
out
of
perspective.
F
Most
ordinances
and
the
proposals
for
cities
in
count
and
counties
are
one
to
one
and
a
half
pages.
So
when
I
saw
this
thing
was
five
pages
long.
I
said
I
better
read
this
thing
more
carefully,
so
so
you
know
the
the
civil
rights
act
of
1964
was
to
protect
against
anyone's
sex,
race,
color,
religion
and
national
origin,
and
that
has
gone
a
tremendous
way
toward
reducing
discrimination
in
1964.
F
I
just
believe
that
this
is
going
to
create
a
tremendous
amount
of
legalities
and
legal
complications
for
business
owners,
and
I
have
had
business
owners
asking
me
about
coming
to
buncombe,
county
and
asheville,
and
I've
told
them
they
better
have
their
eyes
open
and
I've
known
of
business
owners
that
have
sold
their
businesses
in
nashville
and
have
moved
to
tennessee
or
adjacent
counties.
We
do
not
want
to
make
it
more
difficult
for
business
owners
in
buckle
and
buncombe
county.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
A
M
Now,
therefore,
be
it
proclaimed
by
the
board
of
commissioners
for
the
county
of
bunkhum
as
follows:
that
the
month
of
april
2021
be
proclaimed
child
abuse
prevention
month
in
buncombe
county,
that
this
board
does
hereby
call
upon
every
citizen
to
join
the
child
protection
organizations,
groups
and
individuals
in
observance
of
the
month
with
appropriate
programs
and
activities
that
this
proclamation
be
effective.
Upon
its
adoption
adopted
this
6th
day
of
april
2021.
N
O
Center,
the
mission
of
mountain
child
advocacy
center
is
to
identify
and
respond
to
child
abuse
and
neglect
in
buncombe
county
to
educate
and
empower
the
public
to
protect
children
and
to
reduce
the
trauma
through
a
coordinated
community
effort
to
remind
you
of
our
mission.
You'll
find
a
bag
on
your
desk
with
a
pinwheel
pen
inside
a
pinwheel
sticker
and
a
pinwheel
screen
cleaner.
O
O
This
year,
mountain
cac
presented
awards
to
two
of
our
multi-disciplinary
team
members
to
acknowledge
their
excellence
in
child
abuse
case
work,
leah,
stevens
licensed
social
worker
and
forensic
interviewer
with
the
mission
child
safety
team
and
assistant
district
attorney.
Amy
broughton
mountain
cac
also
recognizes
a
person
in
the
community
whose
efforts
support
the
well-being
of
children
for
her
dedication
and
service
to
children
through
her
work
founding
and
leading
the
mission
child
safety
team.
Mountain
cac
is
proud
to
recognize.
O
A
Thank
you
very
much,
thank
you
all
for
being
here
today
to
talk
about
this
important
effort
to
raise
awareness
in
our
community.
Thank
you.
So
much
all
right.
The
next
item
on
our
agenda
we've
got
two
public
hearings.
The
first
is
for
the
consideration
of
the
system's
logistics
corporation
and
tim
love
will
get
us
started
on
this
item.
P
Good
evening,
commissioners,
this
evening
we're
considering
a
public
hearing
with
the
system
logistics
corporation
as
per
usual,
I've
got
some
slides
to
get
us
through
the
presentation,
but
additionally,
I
wanted
to
introduce
you
to
a
few
folks
in
the
audience
with
us.
Today
we
have
two
members
of
the
system,
logistics,
team
or
slc
team-
that's
stefano
vitale,
as
well
as
ben
gagoff.
P
Additionally,
you
all
are
familiar
with
clark
duncan
from
the
edc,
he's
also
here
with
us
today,
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
get
started
and
max
if
you
thank
you
in
terms
of
background
and
request
related.
Today's
public
hearing
in
january
of
2020
slc
announced
it
had
chosen
buncombe
county
for
its
expansion
for
those
unfamiliar
with
slc
slc
is
a
global
supplier
of
material
handling,
solutions
for
warehouses,
distribution,
centers
and
manufacturing
operations.
P
P
By
way
of
just
helping
everyone
understand
where
we
are
the
site
location
here
in
red
for
slc.
This
is
an
arden
off
of
brevard
road
191.
P
The
capital
investment
for
this
project
is
about
3
million
dollars
in
renovations
to
the
building,
as
well
as
the
purchase
of
additional
equipment.
I'd
also
note
that
slc
will
be
purchasing
the
building
that
they
currently
lease,
which
is
an
important
step
for
the
company's
long-term
retention
here
in
buncombe
county
finally,
and
very
important.
The
average
wages
that
slc
offers
are
really
great
to
see
in
our
community.
P
I'm
an
average
wage
of
almost
sixty
seven
thousand
dollars
annually,
which
is
about
thirty
two
dollars
an
hour
and
also
stefano
we'll
speak
to
this
later,
but
a
starting
wage
of
no
less
than
fifteen
dollars
an
hour
for
any
position
that
is
employed
here
in
arden.
The
big
green
tag
line
just
a
reminder.
P
This
aligns
to
the
buncombe
2025
strategic
plan,
specifically
around
continuing
to
drive
our
average
wages
higher
to
catch
up
with
north
carolina
averages,
but
additionally
to
grow
employment
in
specific
industries,
and
this
industry
today
is
the
professional
and
I.t
sector.
So
we're
really
excited
about
that
opportunity.
P
With
that
said,
I'd
like
to
invite
stefano
to
to
come
join
me
at
the
podium
so
that
he
can
take
an
opportunity
to
tell
you
more
about
the
project.
What
slc
does
here
and
so
I
will
hand
off
the.
Q
So,
thank
you,
everyone
for
hosting
me.
My
name
is
stefan
vitale.
I
am
president
ceo
of
system
logistic
corporation,
as
tim
was
saying.
We're
based
here
in
arden.
We
are
systologistic
is
an
italian
company
based
in
north
of
italy,
250
plus
million
revenue.
Last
year
we
are
part
of
a
german
group
listed
as
the
frankfurt
stock
exchange,
and
here
in
arden
we
are
our
headquarters
for
the
northern
and
southern
america
business.
Q
Revenue
were
in
the
range
of
25
million
dollars,
so
we
have
been
investing
in
this
company
since
a
long
time.
We
have
been
able
to
grow
the
business
and
we
are
now
in
this
additional
step
we
have
to
make
because
we
are
acquiring
the
building
and
for
us
is
an
investment
in
the
range
of
89
million
dollar
and
in
addition
to
that,
our
plan
is
also
to
grow
in
terms
of
employees.
Q
Q
Everything
is
related
to
the
automation
of
warehouses.
Is
our
job
we're
talking
about
large
distribution,
centers
or
warehouses
related
to
production,
big
production
facilities?
Our
main
customers
are
in
worldwide
coca-cola
pepsi
nestle,
so
we
are
specialized
in
the
food
and
beverage
industry.
Q
All
the
equipment
you
see
here
so
automated
guided
vehicles,
shuttles,
elevators,
is
or
conveyors
simple
conveyors
are
all
the
equipment
necessary
to
let's
say
to
to
obtain
a
full,
automated
warehouse,
and
you
can
imagine
as
of
today
how
is
actual
this
topic,
because
that
you
can
think
to
all
the
e-commerce
companies
like
amazon.
Q
So
we
are
exactly
where
the
business
is
growing
and-
and
this
is
what
we
are
doing
here
in
here
in
ireland
and
in
the
u.s
and
in
america
we
promote
european
technology,
but
also
we
manufacture
and
we
design
american
technology,
and
this
is
the
reason
we
acquired
vertical
years
ago
and
we
have
been
able
to
attract
people
not
only
in
this
area,
but
we
have
many
families
relocating
been
moved
from
michigan
relocating
from
other
states
here
in
the
area,
but
also
we
are
in
touch
with
the
local
university
with
the
western
north
carolina
university.
Q
Last
year
we
hired,
I
think,
five
engineers
who
graduated
from
the
university
from
the
college
and
also
we
are
hiring
your
people
just
to
support
the
growth.
The
growth
of
our
business.
Q
A
P
All
right,
thank
you.
Stefano
for
sharing
with
us
kind
of
that
experience,
I
think,
exciting,
to
hear
about
how
the
company's
doubled,
in
a
little
less
than
a
couple
years
under
the
leadership
of
this
team
in
terms
of
the
economic
development
agreement,
which
is
the
purpose
of
today's
public
hearing
the
incentive
structure
for
this
agreement.
It's
on
the
screen,
it's
a
total
incentive
of
a
hundred
thousand
dollars,
as
is
typical
in
our
agreements.
The
incentive
payment
payout
occurs
after
the
performance
commitments
are
met,
so
pay
for
performance
deal.
P
There
is
no
incentive
for
the
existing
124
jobs.
We
assume
that
those
are
staying.
It's
built
into
the
agreement
for
retention
purposes,
but
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
the
term
of
this
agreement
is
a
total
of
five
years.
There's
a
three
year
creation
period,
so
that's
the
ramp
up
period
to
invest
and
higher,
followed
by
a
two-year
retention
period
to
maintain
the
existing
footprint.
P
As
I
said
earlier,
this
is
a
pay-for-performance
structure.
So
if
the
slc
team
comes
up
short
in
terms
of
certain
measures,
there
would
be
a
pro
rata
applied
to
that
based
on
the
actual
performance.
This
is
all
documented
in
the
economic
development
agreement
in
terms
of
the
the
build-out
schedule,
it's
again
a
three-year
schedule,
so
you
can
see
how
the
jobs
are
coming
in.
It's
a
pretty
even
spread
year,
one
17
jobs,
15
jobs,
15
jobs.
P
You
know,
we've
talked
about
kind
of
overall
like
what
the
project
is
about,
but
what's
the
actual
impact
in
our
community,
you
know
so
the
jobs
are
clear.
You
know
high-wage
jobs,
investment
that
increase
tax
revenue.
P
This
deal
cash
flows
in
about
three
years,
based
on
the
analysis
we've
done,
depending
on
how
a
tax
rate
comes
in.
But,
additionally,
you
know
those
are
our
direct
impacts,
there's
also
indirect
and
induced
impacts
that
we
see
you
know
as
we
talk
about
business
to
business
transactions.
You
know
the
local
suppliers
that
work
with
slc
and
the
benefit
that
we
have
there,
but
also
the
benefit.
P
Of
course
of
the
employees
and
their
ability
to
sort
of
spend
in
our
community
purchase
homes,
things
like
that,
and
so,
when
you
look
at
that
total
impact,
you
get
a
larger
impact,
which
is
right
under
six
million
dollars
over
that
three
year
period,
so
always
like
to
reference
that,
but
that
is
separate
from
the
tax
revenue
calculations
that
we
typically
look
at
when
we
determine
a
cash
flow.
R
Thank
you,
tim
chairman,
newman
members
of
the
commission,
thank
you
for
having
me
this
evening
and
thank
you
for
your
continued
leadership
on
economic
expansion
here
in
buncombe
county.
So
beyond.
What
I
see
is
the
urgent
importance
for
job
creation
in
engineering
and
technology
in
manufacturing,
career
paths
beyond
even
the
extraordinary
wages
that
have
been
discussed
here
tonight,
an
employer
paying
on
average
60
percent
average
wage
of
buncombe
county
residents
and
beyond
the
investment
in
our
tax
base,
which
will
fund
the
priorities
of
this
commission.
R
It
was
actually
in
1997
when
a
family
of
entrepreneurs
built
the
current
facility
in
vista
industrial
park,
which
you'll
recall
at
that
point
in
time.
Nearly
25
years
ago
was
a
sleepy
one-stop
sign
intersection
at
the
at
the
corner
of
long
shoals
and
brevard.
Road
verticu,
as
it
was
then
known,
was
an
up-and-coming
enterprise
in
the
emerging
field
of
automated
warehouse
storage
systems.
R
R
R
The
nearly
50
new
jobs
discussed
here
tonight
will
run
the
gamut
from
production
technicians
to
technical
sales
and
service
roles
to
engineers
and
project
managers
and
a
large
number
of
plc.
Software.
Programmers
in
fact,
75
of
all
employees
at
slc
under
roof
today,
are
in
a
professional
or
a
technical
capacity.
R
The
company
funds
80
percent
of
the
rising
cost
of
employee
health
care
and
offers
a
50
match
to
401k
savings
that
encourage
wealth
creation
for
retirement.
Most
interesting
to
me
with
a
background
in
human
resources.
Is
this
company
boasts
a
retention
rate
of
95
percent
which
speaks
to
the
culture
and
workplace
that
this
company
and
this
leadership
team
has
built
over
the
years?
R
This
is
precisely
the
kind
of
employer
that
will
help
the
next
generation
stay
and
build
careers
and
build
their
lives
here
in
buncombe
county.
So,
on
behalf
of
the
edc
staff
and
board
the
chamber
board
as
well.
Thank
you
for
your
leadership
and
support
of
systems
logistics
this
evening
and
your
support
of
the
idea
that
better
jobs
build
a
stronger
community.
A
B
A
Then
I'm
going
to
close
the
public
hearing
at
6,
00
p.m
and
commission.
Are
there
any
questions
or
is
there
a
motion
regarding
the
resolution
for
the
economic
development
agreement.
M
A
A
Having
this
company
in
our
community-
and
we
congratulate
you
on
the
success
and
the
growth-
and
we
are
glad
to
see
that
this
remains
is
coming-
remains
having
a
very
bright
and
and
growing
future
in
western
north
carolina
and
in
asheville.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
being
here
and
best
wishes
on
your
future
success
as
well,
and
congratulations
to
all
of
your
employers
who
helped
make
all
that
make
all
that
possible.
P
A
All
right
next
up,
we
have
consideration.
We
have
another
public
hearing
regarding
the
covet
paid
time
off
extension
and
michael
free
will
present
this
item.
T
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
commissioners.
This
is
a
simple
ask,
but
it's
in
the
personnel
ordinance
and
a
benefit
which
is
your
preview
and
it
requires
a
public
hearing.
So
last
year
this
board
amended
the
personnel
ordinance
to
allow
the
award
of
up
to
two
weeks
of
covet
pto
to
those
employees
who
demonstrated
extraordinary
personal
and
professional
sacrifice
of
time
and
effort
in
operating
the
eoc
and
the
county
government
between
march
12th
and
may
31st.
A
All
right,
terrific,
let's.
A
A
W
Thank
you
for
the
chance
to
get
to
meet
with
you
guys,
and
I
appreciate
the
flexibility
to
let
me
attend
virtually.
This
is
our
spring
break
week
for
asheville
city
schools,
so
I
will
be
representing
the
school
system
tonight.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
answer
any
questions
that
you've
had
as
we've
presented
the
dpi
study
to
the
commissioners
for
sign
off
this
past
month
and
this
time
I'll
take
any
other
other
comments
or
questions
you
may
have.
A
Okay,
thank
you
for
calling
into
us
every
spring
break.
W
A
That's
all
right,
that's
all
right!
It's
it's!
We
hear
you
loud
and
clear.
So
that's
fine!
So,
commissioners,
you
know
we
had
this
presentation
last
week.
Of
course,
you
know,
there's
been
some
questions
and
concerns
about
the
asheville
primary
school.
A
The
the
document
which
you
know
this
each
of
the
districts
and
buncombe
county
is
required
to
present
their
plans
to
the
county
commissioners
as
well
as
send
them
to
the
state.
So
that
has
happened
after
the
presentation.
I
am
asked
to
sign
a
statement,
basically
saying
that
this
has
been
presented
to
us.
A
It
also
has
language
in
it,
though,
that
clearly
states
that,
just
by
signing
that
document,
we
are
not
necessarily
endorsing
the
plans
outlined
by
the
district,
but
merely
documenting
the
fact
that
it's
been
presented,
but
there,
of
course
have
been
concerns
about
the
asheville
primary
school.
So
I
I
think
the
commission
wanted
to
have
some
additional
time
to
just
ask
any
questions
about
that
issue
in
particular
or
any
other.
So
are
there
any
other
specific
questions
at
this
time
that
I
don't
believe
and
mr
freud
correct
me.
A
If
I'm
wrong,
I
don't
believe
the
commission
actually
needs
to
vote
on
any
matter
related
to
this
this
evening.
I
just,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
everyone
is
aware.
I
will
sign
the
document
that
basically
says
the
information
has
been
presented
to
the
commission.
That's
correct,
so
no
votes
required,
but
this
is
an
opportunity
to
ask
any
other
questions
about
the
school's
plans
for
its
facilities
over
the
next
five
years.
A
I
guess
I
guess
just
you
know
I'll
just
jump
in
with
one.
You
know
shane.
I
guess
one
one
question
just
from
a
process
standpoint
regarding
the
proposal
to
close
the
asheville
primary
school.
I
think
in
the
in
the
presentation.
At
the
last
meeting,
it
was
discussed
how
the
schools
are
going
through
it
there's
a
specific
process
like
from
what
was
explained
for
closing
for
kind
of
formally
closing
a
school
in
north
carolina.
A
W
Sure
so
what
I
can,
what
I
can
tell
you
is
that
at
the
same
night
that
we
presented
to
you
at
the
commissioners
meeting
the
board
held
a
special
special
meeting
in
africa
city
school
board,
where
a
a
study
had
been
done.
W
That
proposes
the
closure
of
the
school
and
the
reasons
for
that
closure,
and
so
that
that
study
was
presented.
That's
that's
something
that's
formally
done,
and
then
the
board
considers
that
and
then
the
board
will
be
making
their
final
recommendation
during
our
april
meeting
is
my
understanding.
That
would
be
the
next
step,
according
to
our
legal
counsel.
W
Now,
in
terms
of
closing
the
school
north
carolina
also
has
some
additional
steps
with
public
department
of
public
instruction
in
terms
of
formally
going
through
that
process
with
them
in
terms
of
closure,
school
number
and
forfeiting
the
school
number
and
sort
of
those
procedural
pieces.
But
that's
the
that's
the
next
piece-
that's
that's
there.
Certainly
enrollment
has
already
been
done
for
this
year
and
the
students
are
being
placed
currently
now
the
board
could
tell
the
school
system
or
tell
the
enrollment
department
to
open
enrollment
back
up
and
include
asheville
primary.
A
Study,
okay,
but
it
so
understood
about
the
enrollment,
but
the
you
do.
The
expectation
is
at
the
next
asheville
city
school
board
meeting.
There
will
be
a
vote
taken
by
the
asheville
city
school
board
to
to
affirm
the
plan
to
close
the
school.
A
A
One
of
the
other
concerns
that's
arisen.
I
think
kind
of
more
recently
is
the
potential
displacement
of
other
pre-k
facilities
and
operations
operated
by
other
organizations
in
the
community
if
the
pre-k
classes
at
asheville
primary
school,
if
the
school
is
closed
and
they're
relocated
to
other
facilities
that
it
could
displace
other
organizations
existing
pre-k
classrooms,
has
it
been
determined
that
there
is
a
definite
plan
that
if
the
asheville
primary
school
is
closed,
that
it
will
not
result
in
any
loss
of
classroom,
pre-k
classrooms
in
asheville
or
buncombe
county.
W
Yes,
this
past
week
we
toured-
and
I
say
we
so
be
dr
freeman
melissa,
hett
susannah
smith,
who
is
over
our
pre-k
program
and
myself,
along
with
don
sims,
the
director
of
facilities
and
grounds,
we
toured
several
locations
again
to
see
if
we
could
rework
some
other
classrooms
within
our
own
buildings,
our
own
asheville
city,
school
buildings.
We
were
able
to
locate
two
additional
rooms
there,
so
in
effect
those
gaining
of
those
two
extra
spaces
in
our
own
building.
W
My
understanding
is
that
would
allow
for
no
spa
or
no
one
to
be
displaced
out
of
any
current
location.
I
do,
and
that
would
allow
us
to
maintain
all
of
our
11
classrooms
from
the
pre-coveted
year
that
we're
hoping
to
achieve
so
that
is
that
that
is
again.
As
of
last
week,
we
were
able
to
make
make
those
moves
happen,
that
we,
we
think
will
be
able
to
work.
The
only
issue
would
be
in
hopes
of
expansion.
W
I
do
believe
that
at
pva
dr
freeman
was
wanting
to
potentially
look
at
pva
and
I
do
believe
verner
has
a
couple
of
classrooms
that
are
there
at
pba
that
will
be
vacated
at
some
point.
I
think
verner
is
waiting
on
a
another
facility
to
be
built
in
that
construction
to
be
completed,
and
so
I
think,
when
they
are
able
to
move
to
their
new
location,
those
classrooms
in
pva,
I'm
dr
freeman.
I
think
it
had
hoped
or
expressed
the
desire
to
try
to
expand
into
those
two.
W
I'm
not
exactly
sure
where
my
understanding
is:
verner
is
building
a
new
center
somewhere
in
within
buncombe
county,
so
they
were
going
to
be
moving
one
way
or
the
other.
It's
not
that
they're
moving,
because
asheville
city
schools
is
looking
to
move
into
those
rooms.
I
think
those
are
rooms
that
are
going
to
be
made
available
when
they
move.
I
think
the
move
was
actually
planned
to
occur
sometime
this
summer,
but
I
believe
construction
delays.
W
When
I
spoke
with
the
the
classroom
teacher
there
at
verner,
there
were
cl
delays
due
to
covet
and
so
they've
been
pushed
back.
I
believe
I
believe
she
said
mid-fall
is
when
they
were
expecting
to
make
the
moves.
X
A
question
I
have
it
was
some
talk
today
at
our
early
childhood
committee
meeting
about
displacing
a
classroom
in
the
head
start
a
head
start
classroom
at
the
lonnie
burton
center.
Where
are
you
with
that?.
W
So
my
understanding
is
now
that
we've
been
able
to
locate
these
other
spaces
in
our
buildings.
Commissioner,
whiteside
that
we
would
be
able
to
now
not
have
to
do
that.
I
think
there's
one
space,
that's
currently
available
that
no
one
is
in
that
we
would
be
able
to
go
into
in
lonnie
burton
and
then
there's
also
going
to
be
an
additional
room.
That'll
be
available,
come
in
in
the
summer
as
well
again,
with
no
displacement
to
head
start.
W
I
I
understand-
and
I
know
that's
that's
frustrating
and
I
apologize
for
that
and-
and
I
want
you
to
know
that
I
think
the
the
board
and
asheville
city
schools,
the
pre-k
department
in
particular
they've
they've,
taken.
You
know
very
seriously
the
urgency
not
to
displace
anybody,
and
they
certainly
want
to
act
on
that
and
move
on
that.
W
Y
Hi,
this
is
jasmine,
beech
ferrara.
Thank
you
for
joining
us
on
your
spring
break.
Just
following
up
on
commissioner
whiteside's.
Y
Question
line
of
questions:
how
can
we
best
get
clarity
around
the
final
plan?
Y
And
I
I
appreciate
hearing
you
say
tonight
that
as
of
last
thursday,
that
there
was
a
new,
updated
plan
that
avoided
displacement,
which
is
certainly
a
goal,
but
I'm
just
wondering
from
the
county
perspective
how
we
can
get
a
clear
final
answer
about
what
the
plan
will
be,
whether
there's
displacement
and
and
also
as
part
of
that
you
know,
I
really
do
hope
there
will
continue
to
be
opportunities
to
discuss
the
future
of
the
asheville
primary
school
building
itself.
Y
I'd
be
happy
to
go
look
for
storage
sites
myself,
so
I
really,
I
guess,
two
parts
to
that.
One
is
when
we
can
expect
a
final
plan
with
the
ink
dry
on
it
and
then
two
is
really
just
every
time.
We
have
this
conversation
I'll,
keep
saying
the
same
thing
about
the
asheville
primary
school
facility
itself
and
and
really
advocating
for
us
coming
up
with
a
purpose
for
that.
Y
Building
that
will
serve
the
highest
highest
best
needs
the
highest
needs
of
our
community
in
the
best
ways
I
should
say,
and-
and
I
appreciate
all
the
work
that
you're
doing
on
this
in
in
your
capacity.
W
Absolutely,
commissioner,
I
appreciate
that,
and
so
my
understanding
again,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I
couch
that
by
saying
this
is
this
is
how
it
was.
It
was
when
we
left
on
thursday
that
we
would
present
that
plan
to
the
board
and
as
they
approved
that
plan
plus
the
closure
of
the
building,
then
we
would
be
able
to
present
that
to
to
to
the
commissioners
and
let
into
the
early
childhood
committee
and
let
you
know,
because
obviously
we
need
to
let
our
families
know
as
well
too.
W
I
will
tell
you
that
the
additional
classrooms
that
we
were
able
to
push
and
we're
into
both
vance
and
into
hall
fletcher.
So
those
are
those
the
majority
of
the
rooms
that'll
be
available
on
the
pre-k
side,
will
will
maintain
in
the
west
asheville
area,
and
so
we
will
not
not
be
displacing
them
across
a
large,
a
large
booth,
but
it
would
be
within.
You
know,
two
miles
of
their
current
location,
but
I
understand
what
you're
saying
about
the
availability
on
on
public
transit.
That's
obviously
a
key,
a
key
factor.
W
X
Mr
whitesides,
I
am,
I
have
one
more
question.
Shane
I'd
like
to
ask
you
know:
okay,
this
year
has
been
the
pandemic
the
last
year
and
a
half,
and
you
all
are
moving
these
classrooms.
X
W
So
I
can't
speak
with
with
100
accuracy,
but
obviously
during
covet.
I
think
I
showed
you
that
we
were
down.
You
know
200,
plus
students,
as
we
have
been
enrolling.
Certainly,
we've
had
a
very
large,
robust
enrollment,
but
even
with
that
robust
enrollment
we're
still
not
quite
back
to
the
pre-copied
levels
now
you're,
certainly
right.
Obviously
you
know
very
well
from
your
time
with
asheville
city
schools.
W
You
know
august
really
tells
the
tale
of
of
how
many
students
we're
going
to
have
certainly
with
the
with
with
everybody
coming
back,
which
is
how
we
projected
those
opening
in
each
of
the
buildings
we
were
looking
at.
We
were
still
under
capacity
in
those
in
those
facilities,
so,
yes,
we
do
think
we'll
be
able
to
accommodate.
If,
if
everyone
chose
to
come
back.
A
So
it's
not
a
question.
It's
just
a
comment,
though,
but
I
chan
shane.
Thank
you
for
calling
in
and
answering
answering
these
questions.
I
realize
you're
feeling
questions
about
a
lot
of
different
aspects
to
this.
You
know
this
is
just
my
I'm.
Just
speaking
my
personal
opinion,
you
know
I
would
really
urge
the
schools
to
take
more
time
to
make
this
decision.
A
I
think
it's
having
ramifications
on
other
organizations
and
a
lot
of
key
community
work
around
pre-k
and
I
understand
it
sounds
like
there's
now
efforts
to
try
to
figure
out
ways
to
minimize
that,
but
I
think
it
is
going
to
have
adverse
impacts
every
time,
and
you
know
every
time
we've
heard
about
this-
there's
a
different
story,
different
plan.
Just
literally
week
to
week
I
mean
when
we
had
a
call
with
the
superintendent.
A
This
was
just
weeks
ago.
I
think
commissioner
whiteside's
point
about
you
know
we're
coming
out
of
the
most
disruptive.
You
know
national
global
health
crisis
in
a
century
disrupted
all
aspects
of
our
society,
but
especially
our
schools.
It
seems
like
there
would
be
a
lot
of
benefit
in
getting
a
you
know
a
year
under
our
belt.
A
So
for
myself
I
would
just
I
I
understand
the
arguments
that
have
been
presented
for
the
closure
of
the
school
financial
and
you
all
have
an
obligation
to
use
the
resources
you
have
in
the
most
effective
way
for
the
education
of
our
kids,
and
we,
I
understand
some
of
the
arguments
around
why
a
decision
to
close
it
would
be
made
for
those
for
those
reasons,
but
it
feels
very
rushed.
It's
a
very
important
decision.
A
And
it
is
hard
to
see
how
utilizing
an
existing
functional
public
school
as
a
storage
facility
ultimately
makes
sense.
So
I
just
I
just
want
to
share
those
comments,
we're
not
taking
any
vote
on
it
tonight,
but
I
just
I
just
wanted
to
say
it
since
this
is
part
of
the
school's
plans
for
the
coming
years.
So
there's
no
other
comments.
We
will
or
questions
shane.
Z
A
And
well.
W
I
I
I
really
appreciate
the
the
feedback
and
I'll
be
glad
to
again
to
share
that
with
with
dr
freeman
and
the
board,
and
really
I
want
to
make
just
you
know,
one
more
comment.
Just
in
terms
of
you
know,
one
of
the
reasons
that
that
this
started,
you
know
more
than
a
year
ago,
was
worry
about
the
health
conditions
of
the
building
and
many
of
the
staff
and
some
of
the
families
had
even
come
to
was
worried
about
the
issues
that
we've
had
with
mold.
W
And
then
the
concerns
was
cobit
rolled
in
about
what
the
building
would
would
happen
would
end
up
in
a
coveted
environment,
and
so
I
think
it
really.
It
brought
that
to
the
forefront
and
I
certainly
understand
what
you're
saying
is
very
true
about
the
pandemic.
It's
brought
many
many
things
to
light,
and
so
certainly
that's
in
our
thinking,
but
I
will
definitely
take
take
your
feedback
back,
because,
obviously
we
want
to
make
sure
we
make
the
most
wise
and
sound
decision
for
everybody.
W
So
thank
you
for
your
for
your
candor
and
thank
you
for
your
patience.
AA
AA
In
june
of
2020,
the
commission
passed
a
joint
resolution
that
established
a
joint
task
force
to
consider
the
fate
of
the
vance
monument
that
being
whether
or
not
to
remove,
relocate
or
repurpose.
That
monument
april
through
20
december
of
2020
that
task
force
worked,
did
deliberate
work
and
implemented
a
very
robust
community
engagement
effort
to
make
a
decision
on
how
to
what
to
recommend
to
you
all
going
forward
on
december
7th.
AA
AA
The
city
council
approved
that
recommendation
and
authorized
the
city
manager
to
move
forward.
In
addition
to
that,
city
council
authorized
the
city
manager
to
move
forward
with
a
community
visioning
effort
in
an
effort
to
develop
a
visioning
document
that
will
help
determine
next
steps
for
that
area
permanently.
AA
A
Right,
thank
you,
commissioners.
Are
there
any
questions,
or
is
there
a
motion
regarding
the
authorization
of
the
county
manager
to
enter
into
a
cost
share
agreement
and
an
associated
budget
amendment
thirty
five
thousand
dollars
for
planning
around
the
future
of
what
is
where
the
vance
monument
is
currently
located,
that
public
property
in
the
center
of
asheville.
B
AB
I've
got
a
comment,
you
know,
that's
been
going
on
a
long
time
and
I
think
everyone
is
aware
of
what's
happened
here.
AB
We
was
able
to
put
a
task
force
together,
the
county
with
the
city
correct.
I
want
make
sure,
because
I've
had
a
lot
of
media
and
everybody
questioned
me
about
this
or
what
we
done,
and
I
will
make
it
clear
that
we
put
a
committee
together.
They
had
a
committee
and
we
voted
to
listen
to
what
they
said,
not
that
we
agreed
with
it
that
we
make
and
stop
me
if
I'm
wrong
on
any
of
this.
But
I
want
to
make
sure
I'm
saying
it
right
that
we
never
agreed
to
tear
it
down.
AB
B
AB
A
So
I'll
just
make
a
couple
of
comments.
Just
kind
of
you
know,
speaking
for
myself
on
those
those
kind
of
questions
around
the
process,
so
we.
A
The
advanced
monument
is
in
the
underlying
property
is
owned
by
the
city,
it's
not
owned
by
the
county,
so
I
think
it
is
all
legally
the
city
council's
decision
about
what
happens
on
their
property.
I
mean
if
we
did
take
a
position
on
it.
You
know
it
would
be
just
kind
of
us
sharing
our
opinion
about
it,
just
just
like
if
they
had
an
opinion
about
some
county
owned
property.
AA
A
And
that
might
mean
different
things
to
different
people.
Some
people
might
say
you
know,
I
accept
what
you're
saying
you
know,
but
it's
it's.
It
wasn't
a
it
wasn't
a
specific
endorsement
in
that
sense,
so
I
I
think
I
don't
disagree
with
what
you're
saying.
Mr
presley,
I
mean
I
for
myself.
When
I
accepted
it,
it
was
a
unanimous
recommendation.
It
means
I
I
accept.
This
is
the
direction
I
think
this
is
going.
A
I
think
the
city
council
is
going
to
support
it
and
the
the
funds
that
are
being
discussed
tonight
are
not
to
tear
down
the
monument
or
not
to
decommission
the
monument.
The
city
council
is
alone
or
unless
they
have
some
other
source
of
funds.
A
Is
planning
to
appropriate
the
funds
to
decommission
advanced
monuments,
so
no
county
funds
are
proposed
to
remove
the
vance
monument.
However,
the
city
council
has
made
it
clear
they
plan
to
do
that.
So
there's
a
question
about
okay.
If
the
vance
monument
is
decommissioned,
what
will
be
the
future
of
this
public
space,
and
so
the
funds
being
discussed
tonight
would
be
contributed
towards
a
community
input
process
to
talk
about
the
future
of
that
space.
So
anyway,
I
just
want
to
unders.
A
AA
Yeah
they
did
provide
a
timeline,
okay,
yeah,
so
the
removal
and
demolition
should
be
done
by
the
end
of
this
summer.
AA
The
work
to
start
the
commission,
the
community
visioning
project-
should
start
late
spring,
and
the
expectation
is
that
the
city
council
will
get
a
recommendation
on
those
outcomes
by
early
winter,
so
not
specific
dates,
but
definitely
a
roundabout
timeline
and
when
that
will
occur.
So
by
the
end
of
this
year,
recommendations
should
be
proposed
to
what
that
might
look
like
moving
forward.
Okay,.
M
T
In
this
case,
this
resolution
is
designed
to
approve
specifically
the
engineer
and
seymour
contract
that
they
want
to
enter
into
for
security
renovations
at
the
47
campuses
of
the
buncombe
county
schools,
and
it
would
be
effective
only
to
the
individual
school
projects
that
require
expenditure
over
multiple
years.
So
at
this
time
that's
only
the
engineer
and
seymour
contract.
T
So
as
this
process
continues
and
they
would
identify
a
project
that
needs
work,
if
it's
not
grant
funded
or
something
that's
fairly
nominal,
that
could
be
within
the
regular
budget
authority
as
approved
by
this
board
for
that
project,
then
it
would
have
to
come
before
this
board,
either
as
to
consider
recommendation
of
the
school
capital
fund,
commission
or
just
during
the
regular
budget
process.
T
B
AC
AC
I
think
this
is
going
to
be
an
ongoing
project
between
the
board
of
education
and
the
county
for
a
long
time,
so
I
think
it's
important
to
also
as
we
get
in
on
the
right
step
that
you
all
understand
what
this
is.
I've
got
kind
of
a
summary.
If
I
may
approach
that,
I
think
will
help
summarize
and
kind
of
frame
your.
AC
AC
So,
mr
chairman,
commissioners,
as
mr
frew
said,
there
is
a
sort
of
a
box
we
have
to
take
that
involves
your
passage
of
this
proposed
or
something
along
these
lines
resolution.
The
purpose
of
it
is-
and
this
is
the
thing
that
I
think
is
important.
AC
We
all
understand,
as
we
start
here,
is
lobby
security
features
of
all
of
these
schools
across
the
entire
school
district
and
what
they've
done
and
I've,
given
you
just
sort
of
a
simple
bulleted
list
of
the
process
that
we're
talking
about
undertaking
here
is
that
first,
the
board
of
education.
They
engaged
a
consultant
firm
that
went
to
each
of
the
schools
and
sort
of
evaluated
where
there
were
security
needs
and
and
needed
upgrades,
and
then
mr
fearley
had
what
I
think
is
really
a
an
inspirational
sort
of
a
notion
about
how
to
do
this.
AC
I
mean
there's
44
buildings
and
we're
just
about
ready
to
go
on
the
first
one.
So
to
try
to
keep
this
from
outliving
all
of
us.
What
we
the
school
system
did
then
was
in
step
number
two
on
that
list.
They
ran
an
rfq
process
and
selected
from
it
a
design
and
construction
team.
It's
an
architect,
novus
architects
and
harper
construction
for
its
construction
management
to
be
ready,
as
we
go
through
the
list
of
those
suggestions
from
their
consultant
and
and
determine
each
step
of
the
way,
how
much
cost
what's
the
construction
time?
AC
What's
what's
the
size
of
the
project,
because
you
could
have
anything
from
ten
thousand
dollars
in
door
replacements
and
that's
all
you
need
up
to
the
entire
facade's
got
to
come
down
and
we
need
to
really
completely
rethink
the
way
people
come
in
and
out
of
this
building.
So
you
could
potentially
have
you
know
many
hundreds
of
thousands
or
maybe
one
or
two
million
dollars.
AC
The
next
step,
though
so
tim
would
first
engage
the
the
architect
and
the
construction
manager
to
evaluate
these
on
the
basis
that
they
are
they've
been
sort
of
ranked
and
prioritized
by
a
national
standard
that
was
applied
to
them
and
from
that
derive
a
constructability
amount.
How
much
it's?
How
much
big
a
project
are
we
talking
about
and
that's
through
step
three
and
all
of
that
is
paid
for
through
a
purchase
order
that
he
handles
through
their
budgeted
funds.
AC
Article
40
42
money
that
there's
nothing
extra
owed
that
involves
the
county's
involvement
to
you
know
have
to
appropriate
additional
funds
at
that
stage
and
then
it's
not
until
we
get
to
step
four
here
that
we've
determined
either
it's
a
small
project
and
there
might
be
some
grant
funds
available
or
lottery
funds
that
can
take
care
of
a
relatively
small
project,
medium
size
that
might
be
in
the
capital
outlay.
Article
40
and
42
money
already
available
and
also
would
not
require
some
some
new
outlay
from
the
county.
AC
And
then,
if
there
are
any
larger
projects,
we
will
be
coming
back
to
you
for
individual
project
approval.
So
I
say
all
that
to
say,
because
this
is
clearly
more
than
one
year
we
we
do
have
to
take
it
tick.
This
box
of
your
approval
of
this
resolution
that
says
we,
the
county,
understand
the
school
system
can't
legally
enter
into
these
multi-year
contracts
for
capital,
because
they're
you're
the
funding
mechanism.
So
it's
it's
kind
of
a
it's
a
formality
that
we
will
backfill
with
every
time.
AC
AC
A
Okay,
I've
got
one
initial
question
in
terms
of
the
funds
to
aside
from
the
funds
to
actually
go
implement,
a
project
that
you
know
whatever
school
is
ends
up
being
prioritized
high
on
the
list
initially,
but
just
in
terms
of
carrying
out
the
work
of
doing
this
contract.
Doing
the
engineering
and
the
analysis
to.
B
A
You
know
high
priority
projects
and
then
come
up
with
budgetary
figures
for
them.
Where
will
the
funds
to
pay
for
the
actual
work
of
that
engineering
and
analysis
be
derived
from.
AC
So
I
haven't
burdened
you
with
two
70-page
contracts
that
are
for
the
architect
and
the
construction
management
company,
but
they
undertake
in
an
initial
design
development
stage
from
the
architect
and
pre-construction
that
they
have
quoted
us
a
sort
of
a
flat
fee
where
we
we
get
our
you
know,
pre-construction
figuring
out
what
size
of
a
project
are
we
looking
at
early
on
and
those
are
always
going
to
be
within
the
budgeted
funds
that
are
already
within
the
capital
outlay.
For
for
the
school
system.
Does
that
make
sense.
A
Okay,
all
right
are
there
any
just
kind
of
ballpark
figures
for
what
that
looks.
Like
I
mean
again,
I
realize
that's
not
the
specific
question
in
front
of
us,
but
I'm
just
part
of
it,
partly
just
kind
of
trying
to
get
a
sense
for
sort
of
wrap,
my
brain
around
the
scope
of
this
master
multi-year
contract.
You
know
I.
AC
Understand
and-
and
we
have
similarly
been
trying
to
get
our
heads
around
how
to
do
this
in
an
efficient
way
that
actually
gets
it
done
on
a
reasonable
time
scale,
and
it
again
it's
a
purpose
that
I
think
everybody
can
get
behind.
We
need
to
make
our
school
buildings
as
safe
as
they
possibly
can
be
so
trying
to
address
them
in
a
really
orderly
fashion
is
important.
I
can't
tell
you
other
than
that
again.
A
But
again,
I'm
actually
just
thinking
in
terms
of
just
the
work
of
the
the
firm
that's
been
selected
through
the
rfq
process
for
the
engineering
type
analysis
like
is
this
going
to
be
over
the
next
12
months,
say:
100,
000
or
500
000
or.
AC
For
a
project
that
is
anticipated
to
cost
less
than
a
hundred
thousand
dollars,
they
give
us
a
flat
lump
sum
fee
for
their
work
up
through
schematic
design
of
fifteen
thousand
dollars.
Okay
and
we've
done
the
same
thing
with
construction
management,
where
their
pre-construction
work
is
similarly
at
a
small
project
that
we
estimate
at
that
amount.
It'll
be
it's
tens
of
thousands
of
dollars
that
can
be
covered
out
of
existing
capital
outlay
budgets
that
you
know,
funds
that
are
already
budgeted.
Okay,.
AD
AD
There
is
no
real
threshold
on
lottery
or
the
article
4042
39
is
the
capital
commission
funds
that
has
the
hundred
thousand
dollar
threshold,
but
there's
a
lot
of
paperwork
to
do
for
lottery
and
you're,
not
going
to
do
a
tiny,
tiny
project
out
of
lottery
that
we
would
use
our
article
4042
to
kick-start
a
project
to
understand
what
is
involved
so
that
we
can
get
a
a
cost
estimate
for
it.
We've
developed
a
a
prototype.
If
you
will,
that
is
a
sequence
of
entry
and
vetting
of
visitors
that
will
be
different
at
each
school.
AD
The
physical
outcome
will
be
different
at
each
school
because
each
school
is
physically
different,
but
that
sequence
for
security
that
that
that
we've
agreed
upon
meets
our
needs
has
been
developed.
So
that's
what
we're
kind
of
applying
to
each
unique
school
and
coming
up
with
a
design
and
then
a
initial
cost
estimate,
and
then
from
there
we
determine
whether
we'll
do
lottery
article
4042
or
come
to
the
school
capital
commission.
For
funding,
okay,.
A
It's
my
last
question
for
now
so
again
and
I
understand
it's
very
early,
but
it
sounds
like
it
could
be
a
pretty.
I
mean
ultimately,
a
multi-year
pretty.
A
So
when
do
you
think
you'll
have
enough
information
to
talk
to
the
capital
commission
about
that,
just
to
kind
of
start
kind
of
again
kind
of
so
folks
can
sort
of
wrap
their
brains
around
okay.
As
we
look
forward,
you
know
the
next
few
years,
how
much
funding
might
the
schools
be
requesting
for
implementation
of
these
kind
of
security
projects?
You.
AD
Know,
that's
a
that's
a
really
tough
question,
because
there's
a
lot
of
needs
and
we're
really
going
to
have
to
do
it
on
a
year
by
year
basis,
because
things
crop
up
like
roofs,
a
roof
can
be
a
million
dollars.
If
it's
you
know
at
the
end
of
its
life
and
we
struggle
with
keeping
up
with
infrastructure.
AD
It's
always
tempting
to
kick
that
can
down
the
road
and
and
do
something
else,
but
unfortunately
we
have
to
pay
attention
to
school
security,
and
this
initial
project
is
going
to
tell
us
a
lot
about
how
good
our
prototype
is,
the
ability
of
a
contractor
to
basically
be
able
to
do
it
over
summer,
because
this
disrupts
the
office
area.
So
we
really
have
to
do
these
projects
over
summer.
How
many
could
we
do
over
summer?
AD
Y
It's
hard
to
tell
with
the
mess.
I
think
this
is
understood,
but
I
just
want
to
be
very
clear
when
we
say
school
safety
we're
talking
about
the
threat
of
an
active
shooter
situation,.
AD
No
there's
maybe.
AD
Well,
let's
distinguish
between
safety
and
security.
First
of
all,
that's
the
first
thing
you
have
to
do.
Safety
is
tripping
on
a
sidewalk
getting
hit
by
a
car.
You
know,
there's
there's
safety
issues
and
really
this
is
security,
so
an
active
shooter
is
probably
the
most
dramatic
form
of
that,
but
there
are
incidents
almost
every
day
at
schools
that
are
less
intensive
than
that,
but
equally
troubling
parental
issues
with
kids
in
custody
is,
is
huge
and
there's
a
lot
of
emotions
involved
with
that
so
there's
kind
of
a
hierarchy.
AD
Do
you
put
all
your
energy
and
very
high
costs
into
an
active
shooter
which
doesn't
happen
very
often,
but
is
devastating
versus
those
daily
activities
that
occur
regularly
and
we've
believed
we've
struck
a
balance
and
have
sculpted
a
visitor,
vetting
and
sequence
system
that
will
deal
with
both
without
totally
committing
to
one
side
or
another.
Y
Thank
you.
That's
incredibly
helpful.
I
know
you
all
are
immersed
in
these
issues,
but
for
those
of
us
who
aren't
it's
helpful
to
hear
that?
Thank
you.
The
second
is
maybe
a
question
to
staff,
I'm
not
sure,
but
back,
I
think
in
the
spring
of
2019.
I
think
it
was.
We
had
a
discussion
about
basically
addressing
an
issue
where
radios
could
not
communicate
to
each
other
from
inside
first
responders
being
inside
the
buildings,
and
I
don't
know
that
we've
had
an
update
on
that
project.
Y
AD
Yeah
so
the
there's
there's
four
different
bands
and
we've
gotten
adequate
coverage.
Now
at
each
and
every
not
only
buncombe
county
school,
but
city
schools
cooperated
together
so
we're
in
pretty
good
shape.
That's.
AD
That
that
is
one
aspect.
This
contract
is
really
focused
on
the
physical
structure.
Security
is
a
multi-faceted
strategy,
so
there's
administrative
things,
there's
training,
there's
a
lot
of
features,
there's
technology
and
such
this.
What
you're,
considering
and
this
contract
is
really
written
around
physically
altering
the
building
to
make
it
more
secure.
I
Z
Now
that
we're
going
to
be
receiving
the
in
total
50
million
dollars
worth
of
american
recovery
plans,
slash
local
fiscal
recovery
funds,
which
is
what
we
were
calling
it
for
our
portion,
we're
going
to
need
administrative
help
for
that
as
well.
So
we
are
requesting
three
positions
to
help
over
the
next
two
years.
Z
One
of
those
would
be
recruited
right
away
because
we
will
be
having
funds
coming
in
very
shortly
and
we
need
to
be
prepared
from
the
get
go
for
the
reporting
and
everything
else
that
comes
along
with
that
the
other
positions
we
would
hire
after.
We
evaluate
the
need
that
sort
of
thing,
but
we
would
like
to
get
authorization
to
do
that.
Budget
request
would
come
at
a
later
date
as
soon
as
we
know,
guidelines
for
the
local
fiscal
recovery
funds
and
how
we
would
pay
for
those
positions
so
hard.
U
Because
I've
got
a
quick
question,
I
guess
could
you
just
generally
describe,
I
guess
what
kind
of
what
kind
of
administrative
work
we're
talking
about,
and
what
kind
of
backgrounds
for
these
these.
Z
Sure
it's
the
same
job
description
that
we
used
for
the
crf
funds
and
it
is
completely
administrative
in
nature
initially,
so
it's
the
tracking
of
the
funds,
it's
monitoring
contracts.
It's
doing
the
reporting,
that's
going
to
be
required
all
those
sort
of
administrative
things.
This
will
live
in
rachel's
shop,
strategic
partnerships,
which
is
where
the
last
one
also
was
moving
forward.
Who
knows
what
type
of
public
engagement
we
may
need?
We
may
need
an
additional
body
to
do
things
like
that,
but
initially
it's
going
to
be
just
the
administrative
piece
of
it.
U
B
A
Y
Yeah
and
I'll
be
doing
this
with
commissioner
sloan
and
with
the
help
of
mr
frew,
this,
I
think,
is
the
third
time
we've
had
an
opportunity
to
discuss
the
proposed
non-discrimination
ordinance
and
I
wanted
to
provide
a
quick
update
around
process
and
timeline
from
our
last
discussion
in
our
since
our
last
discussion
at
the
commission
level.
There's
actually
been
some
revisions
to
the
language
that
I
that
I
personally
am
excited
about.
I
think
they
strengthen
the
ordinance
and
clarify
it
because
of
that.
Y
This
actually
reboots
the
process
of
introducing
the
ordinance
and
so
formally
to
pass
an
ordinance.
You
need
to
have
a
formal
first
reading,
which
we'll
do
tonight
with
a
discussion
and
then
we'll
have
a
formal
second
reading
at
our
april
20th
meeting,
at
which
time
we'll
take
a
vote
on
the
ordinance.
AA
Y
Just
wanted
to
share
that
update
because
we've
gotten
some
community
questions
about
timeline
and
I'll.
Just
be
very
brief,
because
again,
we've
had
multiple
conversations,
but
obviously
you
know
there's
some
public
comment
this
evening
and
I'm
also
getting
messages
from
folks
with
questions
and
kind
of
a
range
of
perspectives
on
the
ordinance,
and
I
just
want
to
provide
a
little
bit
of
context
tonight
about
how
we
got
here.
Y
Y
The
city
of
charlotte
did
so,
and
there
was
a
lot
of
conversation
at
the
about
trying
to
do
so
in
other
communities
across
the
state
and
that
conversation
was
cut
short
by
the
passage
of
hb2,
a
state
bill
that
basically
preempted
the
charlotte
ordinance
and
also
made
it
illegal
for
transgender
people
to
use
the
appropriate
restroom
and
public
facilities.
Y
That
bill
was
is
a
classic
example
of
discrimination
against
transgender
people
in
public
accommodations,
on
the
heels
of
that
a
parts
of
hb2
were
struck
and
a
bill
called
hb
142
passed
at
the
state
level,
and
one
of
the
things
that
said
is
that
local
communities
were
preempted
from
passing
nondiscrimination
ordinances.
Y
That
put
a
pause
in
the
community
level
conversations,
but
it
didn't
put
a
pause
in
the
realities
of
what
was
happening
in
the
lives
of
lgbtq
people
in
in
north
carolina
and
in
buncombe
county,
and
that
reality
is
is
layered.
Many
things
are
true
at
once.
On
the
one
hand,
in
very
powerful
ways,
you
know,
I
think,
we've
seen
support
for
equality
and
inclusion,
grow
and
people
feel
that
in
their
lives
in
powerful
ways-
and
we
see
more
and
more
families,
understanding
that
there's
lgbtq
people
in
their
lives.
Y
More
and
more
faith,
communities
and
faith
leaders
becoming
vocal
in
their
support,
schools
and
teachers
doing
the
same,
and
we
see
the
difference
that
makes
in
the
lives
of
people
and
enabling
them
to
do
what.
I
think
we
all
hope
and
desire,
and
certainly
deserve
to
do,
which
is
to
have
an
equal
opportunity
to
thrive.
Y
We've
also
seen
that
there
are
continued
obstacles
to
lgbtq
people
reaching
the
threshold
of
full
equality
under
the
law.
There's
been
progress
like
the
supreme
court
ruling
in
bostock,
which
grants
employment,
equality
for
employers
of
more
than
15
folks,
but
there's
also
been
a
lot
of
there's
been
a
lot
of
rollbacks
during
this
time.
So
I
just
kind
of
want
to
paint
that
picture
that
this
is
not
a
new
conversation.
Y
But
what
did
change
in
december
of
2020
is
that
one
section
of
hb,
142,
sunseted
and
local
communities
no
longer
faced
a
legal
barrier
to
passing
a
non-discrimination
ordinance
and
that's
what
reintroduced
this
conversation
in
a
more
formal
way
here.
I've
been
honored
to
be
in
contact
with
so
many
people
in
our
community
in
the
last
four
months
since
that
time,
including,
but
not
limited
to
many
folks
in
the
faith
community
across
denominations
and
perspectives
on
these
issues.
Y
Many
folks
who
provide
direct
services
to
homeless
folks,
particularly
shelter
and
also
many
folks
in
the
business
community,
through
an
ongoing
dialogue
with
the
chamber
of
commerce,
the
chamber
actually
conducted
a
survey
of
its
membership
around
their
positions
on
the
nondiscrimination
ordinance
recently
and
among
respondents.
80
percent
expressed
support
for
this,
believing
it's
good
for
the
community
and
also
good
for
business
when
we
signal
and
create
community
communities
in
which
people
are
treated
equally.
Y
So
I
just
wanted
to
share
that
little
bit
of
context
that
this
is
a
conversation
that
dates
back
many
many
years
and
what's
new
in
this
moment,
is
that
we
have
an
opportunity
to
take
action,
and
I
hope
that
we
will
do
that
as
this
process
progresses.
I'll
turn
things
over
to
commissioner
sloane
and
then
we'll
turn
things
over
to
mr
frew,
who
will
walk
us
through
the
content
of
the
ordinance
so
that
we
do
the
formal
first
reading
as
part
of
tonight's
discussion.
U
This
is
probably
what
would
be
the
most
helpful
use
of
our
time,
but
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
the
housing
section,
which
is
the
most
recent
change
that
brought
us
here
tonight
to
to
talk
about
this
again
and
and
what
what
really
excites
me
is
is
because
it's
it's
an
attempt
to
to
make
it
clear
to
the
community
and
an
example
of
you
know
through
this
through
this
ordinance
that
discrimination
and
housing
is,
you
know,
among
the
lgbt
community,
on
the
basis
of
you,
know:
gender,
gender
identity
and
sexual
orientation
that
that
kind
of
discrimination
is
is
not
acceptable,
and
you
know
right
now,
under
federal
law
through
the
u.s,
fair
housing
act,
the
characteristics
of
the
sexual
orientation
and
and
gender
gender
identity
are
not
protected
characteristics.
U
And
so
that's
it's
a
really
important
consideration
in
the
in
the
housing
space.
So
I'm
really
excited
that.
We're
able
to
add
that,
and
that's
section
42-6,
if
you
have
the
you,
have
the
ordinance
in
front
of
you
but
yeah
I'll
stop
there,
and
I
think,
if
mr
free
wants
to
to
highlight
that
that
housing,
section
kind
of
explain
more
about
why
that
or
how
that
could
could
be
added.
U
I
think
that
might
be
helpful,
but
yeah
just
running
through
running
through
the
whole
thing,
I
think,
would
be
great
unless
there's
initial
questions
from
fellow
commissioners.
T
Thank
you,
commissioners,
beach
ferrari
and
sloan
I'll.
I'm
not
going
to
read
the
entire
ordinance
as
proposed,
but
I'm
just
going
to
try
to
hit
some
highlights
and
some
concerns
that
we
heard
from
public
comment
and
other
factors
just
to
touch
upon
what
commissioner
beech
ferrara
mentioned.
T
Regarding
the
former
house
bill
and
statute,
hb
142
did
expire
in
december
of
last
year,
and
everyone
should
know
that
on
january
31st
of
this
year,
to
the
make
sure
I
get
this
right
attorney.
General
josh,
stein's
office
office
did
issue
an
advisory
letter
and
that's
a
pretty
complex
opinion.
But
what
it
says
is,
after
december,
1st
2020
local
governments
in
north
carolina
may
enact
or
amend
ordinances
regulating
private
employment
practices
or
public
accommodations.
T
T
So,
first
off
what
this
does
essentially
is
expand
the
protected
classes
of
of
citizens
and
lifestyles.
So,
in
addition,
I
should
back
up.
We
all
we've
all
heard,
and
someone
mentioned
the
1964
civil
rights
act
and
we
have
protected
classes
and
back
then
that
was
fairly
short.
T
T
Some
of
those
none
of
those
are
entirely
new.
We've
heard
public
comment
about
that
as
well.
It's
it's
the
protections
and
how
enforcement
might
be
implemented.
T
So
first,
discrimination
and
employment
is
prohibited
by
this
ordinance,
so
I'll
just
refer
to
it
as
the
protected
classes.
The
new
expanded
protected
class
rather
than
reading
the
whole
thing,
but
it
shall
be
unlawful
for
any
employer
because
of
one
of
these
protected
classes
to
refuse
to
hire
or
otherwise
discriminate
against
that
person
with
respect
to
higher
tenure
conditions
that
were
privileged
privileges
of
employment
or
any
matter
directly
or
indirectly
related
to
employment.
T
T
When
learning
is
directed
toward
propagation
of
a
particular
religion,
there
was
a
comment
about
the
the
concern
regarding
corporations,
association
or
society.
If
three
of
us
walk
out
in
the
hall,
we
could
be,
you
know
we're
associated
in
some
way,
shape
or
form.
It's
not
a
it's,
not
a
formal
designation.
It's
just
a
group
or
an
association.
T
There's
a
number
of
exceptions.
Six
here
regarding
it's,
not
unlawful,.
T
T
The
housing
section
again
that
was
pointed
out
by
commissioner
sloan
that
through
this
through
the
administration
of
this
ordinance,
the
county
will
assisted
residents
in
filling
or
filing
housing.
Discrimination
claims
with
the
north
carolina
human
relations
commission
and
that's
a
that's
a
vehicle
in
in
the
state
government,
which
is
actively
dealing
with
that
on
a
daily
basis
and
offering
this
assistance
and
consistent
with
a
recent
united
states
supreme
court
decision
in
bostock.
T
T
T
Now
that
could
be
100
civil
penalty,
it
could,
in
certain
circumstances
each
24-hour
period
could
be
construed
as
a
separate
offense.
T
Any
such
final
decision
of
such
a
violation
for
an
equal
protection
component
may
be
appealed
to
a
panel
consisting
of
the
assistant
county
manager,
a
staff
attorney
and
the
strategic
partnership
director
and
any
def.
Any
appeals
must
be
in
writing
and
delivered
to
the
clerk
of
the
board
of
commission
within
10
days.
T
One
other
thing
that
everyone
should
understand
is
nothing.
This
ordinance
shall
be
interpreted
or
applied
so
as
to
create
any
requirement
power
or
duty
and
conflict
with
any
existing
law,
federal
or
state
law.
I'll
try
to
answer
any
questions
you
have,
but
that's
that's
the
ordinance
and
more.
In
a
nutshell,.
A
Thank
you,
mr
free
commissioners.
Are
there
any
questions
at
this
time
not
voting
on
this
tonight,
we're
just
doing
the
first
reading,
so
any
other
questions
or
comments
at
this
time
all
right.
Thank
you,
mr
fruit.
Yes,
sir,
all
right,
the
last
item
under
new
business
is
revisiting
the
topic
of
public
attendance
at
commissioner
meetings.
This
is
a
topic
we
discussed
one
or
two
meetings
ago.
A
I
think
we
had
a
good
discussion
about
this.
My
takeaway
was
that
there
was
a
lot
of
support
for
this
approach
once
we
do
resume
it.
I
think
the
questions
were:
when
did
we
resume
it
and
when
we
resume
it
did
we
do
we
moved
from
we've
been
all
virtual?
Do
we
replace
it
with
the
in-person
comments,
or
do
we
do
both?
A
So
I
had
a
suggestion
I
want
to
put
forward
just
as
an
idea.
Maybe
kick
off
the
conversation.
A
A
How
about
if
we
take
a
kind
of
a
two-step
process?
First,
with
a
hybrid
approach
where
we
would
have
in-person
public
comments
from
those
who
want
to
do
it,
but
at
least
for
some
period
of
time
people
could
still
call.
In
my.
My
suggestion
would
be
that
we
start
that
at
our
first
meeting
in
may,
we'll
have
two
meetings
in
may,
so
that
would
be
basically
a
month
from
now.
A
So
our
next
meeting
would
still
be
virtual
that
at
our
first
meeting
in
may,
we
would
give
people
both
options
and
then
do
that
for
our
meetings
in
may
and
then
our
first
meeting
in
june,
we
would
move
to
in
person
and
obviously
we
can
adjust
that
schedule.
If
I
mean
my
sense
is
that
by
june
late
may,
like
I
think
most
most,
everyone
who
wants
to
get
a
vaccine
will
probably
have
access
to
at
least
gotten
one
vaccine
and
as
a
folks,
I'm
sure
have
heard
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
protection.
A
That's
that
accrues
with
that
pretty
quickly
so,
but
we
can
always
adjust
the
schedule
if
things
are
not
going
as
well
as
I
think
we
hope
they
would
be.
So
what
do
folks
think
about
that?
So
one
more
meeting
as
we're
doing
it
now
may
is
sort
of
a
hybrid
and
then
in
june.
If
things
are
going
well,
we
would
shift
to
the
in-person
comments.
A
I
mean
the
in-person
protocols
using
these
protocols
that
the
staff
have
recommended
and
maybe
that
within
a
month
or
two
of
that,
we've
really
beaten
this
pandemic
and
we
might
be
able
to
further
go
back
to
kind
of
the
public
comments
that
we've
we've
had
which,
without
as
much
social
distancing
requirements,
but
I
think
that's
probably
too
far
out
in
the
future
to
really
figure
that
out
yet.
A
V
V
A
A
That
sounds
good.
Why
don't
we
just
formalize
this
I'll,
make
a
motion
that
starting
at
our
first
meeting
in
may,
we
will
begin
utilizing.
The
in-person
public
comment
options
outline
our
procedures
outlined
by
staff
in
the
memo,
while
also
continuing
to
allow
an
in-person.
I
mean
a
remote
call-in
option
for
our
meetings
in
may
and
then
starting
at
the
first
meeting
in
june.
A
We
will
have
we
will
utilize
the
in-person
public
comment
option
using
the
procedures
outlined
by
staff
unless
the
county's
health
staff
have
any
additional
comments
or
recommendations
for
for
further
modifying
that.
A
A
Okay
got
a
motion
in
a
second
any
further
comments.
AB
AB
Okay-
and
just
I
mean
we
know
about
how
many
people's
usually
here,
but
can
we
accommodate
20
or
30
in
a
waiting
room
somewhere?
Until
I
mean
I
kind
of
like
see
that
they
at
least
call
in
by
monday
at
five,
where
we've
got
an
idea?
How
many
we're
going
to
have
to
put
in
different
places,
probably
may
only
be
two
or
three,
but
just
in
case
you're,.
A
AB
V
A
At
3
30
p.m.
So
why
don't
we
make
it
the
same
for
both
monday
at
3
p.m?
You
need
to
let
us
know
if
you're
going
to
show
up
in
person
or,
if
you're
going
to
call
in
and
we'll
use
that
protocol,
while
we're
continuing
to
do
the
hybrid
model
and
then
see
how
that
goes,
and
maybe
we
won't
need
it
after
some
point,
but
we'll
give
that
a
try.
It
sounds
that
sounds
fine.
B
X
A
Any
opposed
all
right
great.
We
have
a
couple
of
board.
Appointments.
First
is
the
early
childhood
education
and
development
committee.
Rachel
nygard
is
not
here
to
present
this
is
there
somebody
else
who's
gonna
present
this.
S
I
think
I
can
do
it
or
michael
fruit
could
help
me
with
this,
but
this
is
a
reconsideration
of
a
motion
that
was
passed.
The
last
meeting
where
we
extended
the
terms
and
one
individual
was
left
off
of
that
list.
Okay,.
A
S
We
are
just
adding
to
that
list,
another
individual
that
is
already
on
the
committee.
X
A
Any
opposed
all
right.
Thank
you.
Okay,
we've
got
a
couple
other
boards
and
commission
appointments.
A
One
position
they've
served:
we
have
one
person
who
served
one
term
I'll,
make
a
motion
to
approve
eric
robinson.
Second,
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye.
U
A
All
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye
opposed
all
right
on
the
library
board.
We
have
a
number
of
applicants.
The
library
board
has
made
recommendations
to
appoint
sherry,
turcotte,
brandon,
mays
and
leanne
smith,
and
they
are
each
from
a
different
county
commission
district
in
the
county.
That's
one
two
and
three
I'll.
U
Make
a
motion
to
to
see
to
leanne
smith:
we
need
to
do
one
at
a
time.
X
U
Bet
my
motion
to
to
to
see
all
three
sherry
turcotte,
brandon,
mays
and
leanne
smith.
A
Of
boards
and
commissions
we
do
have,
let
me
do
a
couple
of
announcements.
S
Before
you
do
that,
if
you
don't
mind
chairman
sure,
I
think
at
the
bottom
of
your
list
there
was
some
information
about
some
potential
interviews.
S
X
S
Yeah,
it's
it's
actually
for
four
positions,
but
five
people
have
applied
for
the
planning
board
and
two
applicants
have
applied
for.
A
The
historic
resource
commission,
at
least
seven
interviews,
then
I
mean
so
one
option
would
be
to
like
do
it
at
like
11
a.m.
You
know
before
we
have
our
different
subcommittee
meetings,
it's
a
long
day
of
meetings,
but
that's
one
option.
If
we
want
to
do
it
the
same
day,
another
option
would
be
to
you
know,
select
a
different
date.
X
X
A
Just
do
that
get
a
good
night's
sleep
before
the
night
before
all
right,
we'll
plan
on
do
doing
interviews
from
like
11
a.m,
until
approximately
12
p.m
or
thereabouts.
Whenever
we
get
finished,
if
there
could
be
some
lunch
around
because
we
will
be
going
from
that
meeting
to
other
meetings,
so
that's
well.
I
don't
know
how
much
I
don't
know.
If
you're
are
you
meeting
zoom
zoom
meetings,
yeah.
A
Okay,
well,
all
right,
well
11
a.m.
Next,
before
the
next
meetings
is
that
good
lamar.
S
B
A
S
A
Then
I
would
recommend
we
plan
on
doing
that.
I
mean,
I
think
the
person
should
be
notified
of
the
concerns
and
but
let's
let
them
know
that
we're
planning
on
doing
that.
Unless
they,
I
think
we
should
give
people
a
chance
to
sort
of
come
in
and
explain
you
know
or
send
a
letter
or
an
email
or
something
to
explain.
Maybe
there's
some
legitimate
reason
and
if
they
really
really
want
to
continue
serving.
I
would
like
for
us
to
be
able
to
hear
their
reasons.
Why?
A
S
Just
just
to
give
you
information,
we
was
provided
that
city
staff
has
tried
to
reach
out
to
this
individual
numerous
times
with
no
response.
Okay,.
X
S
Okay,
so
that
may
be
the
issue,
and
it
just
may
be
that
he
hasn't
informed
them
that
you
know
he
would
like
to
be
off
of
that
board.
So
we
didn't
want
to
make
it
harder
than
it
should
be,
but
we
also
wanted
to
take
this
recommendation
from
the
city
staff
on
this
position.
A
All
right,
I've
got
a
couple
of
announcements
on
april
20th
at
3
p.m.
The
county
commissioners
will
hold
their
briefing
meeting
at
200
college
street
room
326
in
downtown
asheville
on
april
20th
at
5
p.m.
The
county
commissioner's
regular
meeting
will
be
held
at
200
college
street
room
326
in
downtown
asheville
on
april
22nd
at
1
30
p.m.
The
county
commissioners
will
hold
a
budget
work
session
at
200
college
street
room
326
in
downtown
asheville.
T
Yes,
sir,
we
need
a
motion
to
go
into
closed
session
pursuant
to
general
statute,
143
318-1185
to
get
extra
instruction
from
the
board
concerning
a
possible
contract
or
lease
and
just
expect
no
formal
action.
There's
direction
from
the
board.