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From YouTube: Planning Board Meeting, July 17, 2023
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The Buncombe County Planning Board is now live streaming and recording their meetings to https://engage.buncombecounty.org/buncombeplanningboard . Watch today's meeting and review presentations and materials.
A
We
have
a
few
brief
announcements
to
start
with,
one
is
to
the
planning
board.
We
have
one
resignation.
Cindy
weeks
has
turned
in
her
resignation
due
to
family
life,
personal
issues,
so
we
will
be
looking
for
a
replacement
for
Sandy,
unfortunately,
and
I'd
like
to
also
share
just
for
General
notice.
The
protocol
for
our
public
comment
hearing
periods,
a
brief
version
of
those,
the
general
public
comment
will
be
taken
at
the
end
of
every
planning
board
meeting.
A
In
addition
agenda
item,
specific
public
comment
will
be
taken
as
part
of
any
public
hearing
for
both
texts
and
map
amendments.
Speakers
wishing
to
address
the
board
in
public
comment
must
sign
up
on
the
shoot
provided
by
the
planning
staff.
If
there's
anyone
with
us
today
that
wants
to
do
that,
speakers
will
be
called
in
the
order
they
are
signed
up.
Comments
should
be
limited
to
specific
comments
relevant
to
the
planning
board
at
the
voice.
Discretion.
A
Limited
comment
may
also
be
allowed
on
individual
agenda
items
during
the
course
of
the
meeting,
as
instructed
by
the
chair,
and
all
public
comment
will
be
limited
to
three
minutes
per
individual
and
that
will
dispense
with
that
for
this
morning
and
now
we
need
to
have
the
Royal
college
board.
Members.
B
C
A
C
D
D
There
is
one
thing
that
the
planning
board
has
to
do,
and
it
is
7068g
is
the
section
and
what
you
are
required
to
do
is
the
planning
board
is
the
proposed
holder
of
concentration
out
easement
shall
be
stated
on
the
submitted
subdivision
plans
which
they
are
and
she'll
be
approved
by
the
Buncombe
County
planning
board.
So
that
is
why
we
are
here:
they've
been
granted
preliminary
approval.
D
D
They
actually
have
preliminary
approval,
so
that's
sort
of
the
first
step
in
the
whole
development
process,
and
this
is
a
condition
you
know
they
have.
They
have
standard
anything
related
design
in
the
subdivision.
Ordinance
has
been
addressed,
but
they
have
conditions
like
give
me
a
copy
of
your
ncdot
driveway.
Permit
your
water
and
sewer
engineer
certification
when
those
those
things
are
built,
those
sort
of
conditions,
and
that
this
is
one
of
those
conditions.
E
I
Question
the
ordinances:
basically,
it
seems
that
you
do
a
review
and
it
says
that
that
the
proposed
folder,
the
conservation
shall
be
stated
on
the
submitted
subdivision
plan
and
shall
be
approved
by
the
Bunbury
County
Planning
does
not
give
you
a
specific
standards
that
you
are
looking
for
in
terms
of
approval.
I
assume
that
as
long
as
there's
no
errors
that
that
it
would
be
a
this
is
more
of
an
administrative
approval
thing
else.
As
the
statute,
there
are
metal
standards,
no.
H
Spelled
out
elements,
do
you
read
that
Kurt
sort
of
we're
approving
the
conservation
entity
sort
of
like
that's
what
we're
looking
at?
Not
the
project,
but
the
entity
that
would
hold
the
easement
sort
of
as
to
their
the
quality
of
their
ability
to
be
an
easement
holder,
kind
of
thing
versus
other
options.
G
I
I
A
K
L
L
Please
questions
and
Sap's
exactly
right
on
this.
This
project
is
an
azerbike
project.
It's
already
approved
the
tools
that
we've
been
using
have
kept
us
very
much
in
close
contact
with
staff.
It
is
a
detailed
subdivision,
ordinance
that
encourages
clustering
to
protect
environmentally
sensitive
areas
and
encourages
and
requires
that
in
using
these
tools
that
a
qualifying
Land
Trust
be
the
recipient
of
the
conservation
easement.
Here
the
conservation
easement
is
nearly
107
acres
and
we
have
chose
North
American
land
trust.
L
Our
Focus
has
been
making
sure
that
it
is
a
company
that
has
good
qualifications
and
one
that
staff
would
want
to
work
with.
From
a
county
standpoint,
we
asked
for
recommendations
from
staff.
They
gave
us
two.
Those
two
in
turn
referred
us
to
North,
American,
land,
trust
and
I'll.
Let
them
speak
to
to
their
qualifications,
but
the
big
parts
for
us
are
their
501c3.
L
Obviously,
the
the
conservation
easement
will
be
permanently
deed,
restricted,
that's
part
of
the
requirements
and
again
I,
think
and
I
think
I'm
certain
that
the
consideration
today
is
whether
this
is
a
qualifying
Land
Trust
capable
of
receiving
that
conservation
easement
as
part
of
this
project,
not
the
project
itself,
we're
happy
to
answer
any
questions
about
either.
However,
we
do
have
members
of
our
development
team
as
well
as
North
America
land
trust
I,
would
ask
them
to
come
up
now
and
introduce
themselves
and
subject
themselves
to
any
questions
you
might
have.
M
M
M
The
part
of
the
property
that
is
subject
to
the
conservation
easement
is
the
much
more
environmentally
sensitive
area
of
the
property
hillsides
on
undeveloped,
Forest
Area,
as
opposed
to
the
portion
of
the
site
that
we
are
building
on,
much
of
which
has
already
been
cleared
and
and
used
in
the
past,
so
that
you
know
we're
we're
very
excited
about
the
idea
of
being
able
to
preserve
so
much
of
the
most
beautiful
portion
of
the
site.
It
will
have
approximately
three
miles
of
recreational
Trails.
M
We
did
originally
start
working
with
a
land
trust
that
was
recommended
by
City
staff
and
got
a
ways
down
the
road
with
them.
I
believe
they
got
some
political
pushback
from
some
loud
Neighbors
about
it,
and
they
were
sort
of
put
off
by
that
and
not
willing
to
proceed
on
that.
They
are
the
ones
who
recommended
an
ALT
to
us,
and
so
we
have
been
working
with
nalt
now
for
a
while.
M
M
We
are
really
excited
to
work
with
them
as
a
partner
on
continuing
to
improve
the
area
for
conservation
purposes,
making
sure
that
we're
you
know
not
removing
any
live
trees
unless
there's
some
sort
of
a
pine
beetle
situation
or
something
and
nalt
is
telling
us.
We
should
do
that.
It's
it's
kind
of
we're
very
excited
about
the
partnership
and
being
able
to
have
this
guidance
on
how
to
really
maximize
preserving
the
space
in
perpetuity
as
a
beautiful,
a
beautiful
resource
that
now
will
never
be
developed.
M
G
M
We
worked
closely
with
City
staff
and
with
malt
to
figure
out,
you
know
if
the
sewer
line
has
to
go
through
there
should
it
be
part
of
the
easement
area
and
then
carve
out
our
our
ability
to
put
the
sewer
line
in
there
and
to
do
any
necessary
repairs,
and
things
like
that.
Does
that
make
the
most
sense,
or
does
it
make
sense
to
exempt
it
from
what
is
covered
by
the
easement
and
determined
with
all
of
the
input
that
it
makes
the
most
most
sense
to
exempt
it
from
the
easement
area?
M
The
intention
is
that,
when
the
existing
infrastructure
south
of
the
property
down
the
hill
is
extended
far
enough
for
other
developments
that
it
is
then
possible
for
us
to
connect
in
there.
We
would
Connect
into
that
system
and
decommission
the
sewer
line.
Going
up
the
hill,
why
is
it
not
possible
to
go
ahead
and
Connect
into
the.
H
M
Yeah
I,
you
know
my
understanding
of
it,
based
on
conversations
with
them
was
that
they
had
been
getting
some
contact
from
people
who
did
not
want
the
project
to
be
built.
A
limited
amount
of
people,
but
loud
enough
that
they
really
kind
of
shied
away
from
not
they
didn't
want
to
get
involved
in
the
crosshairs.
M
Not
that
I'm,
aware
of
no
I
mean
we
did
also
I
should
say
we
did
also
reach
out
to
a
few
other
land
trusts,
and
several
land
trusts
were
not
really
interested
in
the
conservation
easement
because
of
the
size.
They
are
more
interested
in
taking
a
thousand
acres,
and
this
is
sort
of
you
know
you
any
land.
Trust
that
isn't
already
established
in
this
area
like
nalt,
is
with
already
having
several
easements
here.
M
G
One
follow-up
question:
yeah
this
two-step
thing
where
you
would
use
the
upper
path
for
a
sewer,
easement
and
then
later
on.
If
the
sewer
line
was
added
to
thinner,
stove
Rose,
you
would
connect
the
thinner
scope
both
of
the
mountain
portion
of
that
is
that
documented,
or
will
it
be
documented
in
the
easement,
that's
recorded
in
Buckingham.
L
G
A
N
Good
morning,
good
morning,
all
right,
my
name
is
Stephen
Carter
I'm,
the
president
of
North
American,
land
trust
Nolte,
is
a
501c3
conservation
charity,
headquartered
in
Chadds,
Ford
Pennsylvania,
which
is
just
outside
of
Philadelphia.
Our
mission
is
the
permanent
conservation
and
stewardship
of
our
natural
and
cultural
resources
through
Innovative
land
preservation
projects.
Adult
is
a
national
interest.
Currently
operational
in
24
States.
N
To
date,
our
professional
staff
manages
over
120
conservation
easements
in
North
Carolina,
spread
across
28
counties,
accounting
for
over
22
500
Acres
of
protected
land,
we're
quite
proud
of
our
accomplishments.
Here
in
Buncombe
County,
which
include
the
stone
weather
conservation
he's
made
177
acre
property
situated
on
the
banks
of
the
French
Broad
River.
This
property
is
now
owned
by
another
North
Carolina
nonprofit,
the
Big
Creek
Wildlife
Foundation,
and
is
open
for
public
access.
This
property
has
also
been
the
site
or
hosted
other
local
land
trusts,
including
conserving
Carolina,
who
you
heard
earlier.
N
Who's
linked
up
with
malt's
staff
to
conduct
nature
walks
on
the
property
there's
also
the
conservation
easements
at
the
settings
at
Black
Mountain,
a
residential
conservation
Community,
not
so
dissimilar
from
pinner's
Cove.
Adult
staff
enjoys
regular
engagement
with
the
Black
Mountain
Community,
not
only
ensuring
compliance
with
the
terms
and
conditions
of
the
conservation
easement,
but
hosting
regular
conservation
lectures
and
nature
walks
on
the
property
null
has
a
long
history,
partnering
with
municipalities,
government
agencies
in
the
real
estate
Community
to
help
effectuate
balanced
and
meaningful
project
outcomes.
N
I'll
conclude
by
quickly
mentioning
the
strength
and
experience
of
knowledge,
monitoring
and
stewardship
program.
It's
no
small
task,
monitoring,
600
conservation
easements
across
the
country,
but
we
take
this
commitment
seriously
and
have
the
resources
to
maintain
an
annual
policy
of
annually
monitoring
all
of
our
conservation,
easements
I'm.
N
E
C
They
they
do
not.
They
give
you
a
60
rating
two-star
rating.
Almost
all
your
stuff
is
great,
except
for
the
accountability
and
finance
I
I.
Don't
know
enough
to
understand
why
that
might
be.
There
might
be
some
reasons
why
Atlanta's
organization
might
not
fit
their
definition
of
accountability,
climate
criteria,
so
I
wonder
if
you
would
speak
for
that.
N
I
can't
speak
to
how
they
grade
I,
don't
know
the
exact
process.
What
I
can
tell
you
is
that
we
do
file
a
public
form
990
every
year,
which
describes
all
of
our
functions
financially
and
operations.
We
make
that
form
available
and
I'm
happy
to
make
that
form
available
to
you,
I'm,
not
sure.
If
charity
Navigator
is
not
getting
that
form,
maybe
and
that's
why
they're
grading
us
that
way,
I
haven't
kept
up
so
I
apologize.
L
N
As
an
organization,
no
we're
not
under
investigation
for
at
any
time
when
I
talked
about
compliance,
I
was
talking
more
about
our
monitoring
conservation,
easements
and
our
landowners.
We
don't
have.
We
do
have
those
happen
from
time
to
time,
but
we
try
to
not
litigate
them.
It's
really
about
trying
to
find
a
compromise.
If
there
is
an
issue,
you
know,
that's
not.
Our
mission
is
to
litigate
it's
to
preserve
land,
so
we
want
to
stay
out
of
court
if
possible.
K
N
No
we've
evaluated
that
issue.
These
kinds
of
amenities
for
developments
associated
with
the
conservation
project
are
not
unusual.
They
do
happen.
It's
really
about
the
design
and
the
impact
as
Julie.
Excuse
me,
as
Sunny
described.
We
did
look
at
this
carefully
and
decided
that
the
best
approach
would
be
to
not
encumber
that
area
with
the
conservation
easement.
So
they
could
do
the
regular
maintenance
on
that
area,
but.
N
G
N
G
A
N
Kind
of
things
we
try
to
encourage
that
to
really
that's
the
developer,
who
came
up
with
that
before
we
even
got
involved.
This
was
something
that
they
were
committed
to
in
terms
of
monetizing
their
Community.
It's
really
important
to
do
that,
to
be
able
to
not
only
protect
the
property
and
the
natural
resources
that
are
there,
but
to
create
an
opportunity
for
the
community.
N
One
interesting
feature
is
the
property
is
next
to
the
Givens
Estate
property.
We've
not
opened
up
this
discussion,
but
they
have
over
I
believe
five
miles
of
trails
on
their
property
that
come
right
up
close
to
The
penners
Cove
property.
So
we've
got
some
preliminary
discussions
with
our
friends
to
maybe
see
if
there's
a
possible
connection
there,
that's
the
kind
of
influence
that
we
want
to
try
to
bring
to
the
table.
When
we
work
on
our
projects.
I,
don't
know.
If
you
know
we
can
go
there.
N
They
would
be
in
this
case
again.
It's
really
a
matter
of
context.
You
know
to
have
a
full
public
trail
system,
you're
going
to
need
infrastructure
parking
lots
that
kind
of
thing,
so
it's
not
really
set
up
for
that
I.
Don't
think
my
developer
friends
are
opposed
to
that,
necessarily
it's
just
its
contacts
and
the
properties
not
necessarily
set
up
for
that
at
this
point
in
time.
Thank.
G
No
just
one
comment,
and
it's
mainly
addressed
to
staff
I've,
asked
a
lot
of
questions
about
this
uphill
pump.
Sewer
line
I
just
favor
those
kind
of
arrangements
for
development.
The
reason
I
do
is
as
defense
counsel
for
an
insurance
company
I
had
an
opportunity
to
represent
in
litigation
where
a
uphill
pumped
sewer
line
failed.
G
The
potfilled
and
the
pump
continued
and
it
destroyed
a
massive
piece
of
property
in
a
county
adjacent
to
Buncombe,
County
and
I
was
involved
in
the
litigation
with
that
I
understand
now
that
there
is
no
sewer
line
on
pinner's
Cove.
This
is
the
first
time
I've
ever
heard
of
that
so
prior
to
just
today,
I
was
under
the
impression
that
this
Spinners
Cove
development
could
connect
to
an
existing
sewer
line
on
intersco
but
chose
not
to
and
chose
the
over
the
mountain
route.
G
Now
that
I
understand
there
is
no
existing
sewer
line
on
printers
Cove
I
would
hope
that
going
forward
with
future
projects
be
able
to
work
with
MSD
to
consider
extensions
of
sewer
lines
from
Mills
Gap
Road
to
penner's
Cove
I
would
think
that
would
be
preferable
than
an
over-the-mountain
positive
pressure.
Pump
station
haven't
seen
the
failure
and
haven't
done
the
settlement
on
that
piece
of
property.
I
think
that
is
a
really
risky.
Endeavor
and
I
appreciate
in-house
councils
pointing
out
that
down
the
road.
D
H
H
M
M
M
We
haven't
looked
at
the
possibility
of
turning
the
the
sewer
line
area
into
part
of
the
conservation
easement
if
we
were
able
to
put
into
gravity
fed,
but
I
can't
see
any
reason
why
we
wouldn't
do
that.
I.
Think
it's
like
you
know
it's
it's
not
it's
not
like.
We
could
suddenly
build
a
road
on
there,
given
the
topography
to
be
able
to
put
a
house
on
there.
M
You
know
we
and-
and
Gian
might
know
more
about
this,
but
or
Derek,
but
I
believe
that
right
now,
the
reason
that
the
the
lines
have
not
been
extended
from
Mills
Gap
Road
is
that
it
it
requires
a
fair
amount
of
infrastructure
and
potentially
easements
from
other
landowners,
and
so
I
think
that
that's
a
long-term
goal
of
MSD
and
of
you
know
several
of
us
in
the
area,
and
we
will
continue
working
on
it.
It
just
is
not.
M
M
The
other
item
that
I
just
wanted
to
mention
is
that
we
are
not
seeking
tax-exempt
status
for
this
conservation.
Air
easement
area.
Part
of
that
has
to
do
with
the
fact
that
just
under
federal
law
because
we're
using
it
in
order
to
Cluster
our
density,
it's
it
doesn't
really
fall
within
what
the
what
federal
law
allows
for
tax-exempt
status.
M
So
we
are
not
seeking
tax-exempt
status
for
this
project,
either
federally
or
on
a
state
exemption
basis
and
the
easement
which
we
are
still
working
on
getting
everything
figured
out,
but
it's
98
of
the
way
there.
It
doesn't
contemplate
that
either
that
you
know
we
would
be
doing
anything
to
get
that
tax
exempt
status.
G
M
That
might
be
a
better
question
for
Mr
Allen
I.
Think
that
you
know
I,
don't
think
that
the
conservation
easement
itself
would
reduce
the
tax
value.
My
guess
is
that
just
having
it
be
vacant
land,
it
may
be
taxed
at
a
lower
rate
than
land.
That's
developed
because
the
value
of
it
is
lower
without
improvements,
but
I.
Don't
I'm
not
aware
of
anything
that
that
gets
us
any
tax
advantage
because
of
the
conservation
easement.
M
A
N
Don't
discriminate
we
have
easements
as
small
as
four
acres,
it's
really
contextual.
It
depends
on
on
the
context.
You
know
the
geography
and
where
you're
at
you
know,
some
areas
are
so
overly
developed
where
four
acres
is
really
really
important
right.
It's
like
the
last
piece
of
open
space
in
that
area.
N
So
it
has,
you
know
intrinsic
value
in
that
way,
but
we
hold
easements
as
small
as
that
and
easements
as
large
as
5
000
Acres,
so
obviously
the
the
larger
the
easement
it's
kind
of
nice,
because
there's
bigger
area
and
more
habitat.
But
it's
it's
really
all
context
and
that's
what
makes
you
know.
North
American
interest
unique
in
our
job
very
interesting,
is
that
we
are
working
all
over
the
country
and
many
different
geographies,
and
these
projects
have
many
different
elements
and
variables
to
them.
So.
A
N
I
And
basically,
that
full
section
and
it
states
that
average
natural
slope
or
receptive,
submitted
subdivision
plans
that
contain
and
I
think
this
is
where
a
Perpetual
conservation
isn't
it
to
ELD
and
enforced
by
an
established
land.
Trust
for
concert,
Conservancy
organization
shelving
calculated,
excluding
the
acreage
of
the
conservation
unit.
K
I
I
That
is
something
that
is
within
the
powers
that
that
you
had
I,
think
this
ordinance
predates
chapter
116p,
that
kind
of
reorganized
what
a
planning
board
did,
but
this
is
one
of
the
remnants
that
is
still
in
our
ordinance
where
the
planning
board
has
to
sign
up
on
the
black,
so
I
think.
Based
on
this.
D
H
I
hear
what
Billy's,
saying
and
I
hear
what
Kurt's
saying
as
well
and
I
think
this
is
more
for
staff
going
over
it.
I,
don't
know
how
this
is
necessarily
administrative
and
that
there's
not
a
chat
about
that
approve
or
deny
doesn't
give
me,
but
it
also
doesn't
give
me
a
standard
I
think
that's.
Ultimately,
the
problem
is
that,
if
we're
going
to
keep
doing,
this
ultimate
I
think
there
needs
to
be
a
change
here.
That
tells
us
what
that
standard
is
going
to
be
what
we
would
look
for.
What
would
go
in
this
direction?
K
N
H
K
H
G
A
A
E
D
G
F
C
K
A
H
I,
just
before
we
moved
on
I,
just
I
think
for
staff
going
forward.
What
would
be
really
helpful
for
me
and
I?
Don't
know
if
Alan
would
add
to
this
is
sort
of
the
packet
on
this
having
the
statute
having
their
presentation
materials
in
advance,
and
all
of
that
together
before
would
be
helpful.
For
me,
I
mean
it
worked
out
today,
but
I
think
just
knowing.
G
That
I
would
agree
with
that.
I've
been
on
many
boards
and
my
process
is
to
go
to
bed
early
I
get
up
early
I
read
the
packets
completely
so
that
when
I
walk
in
the
hearing
it
is
fresh
on
my
mind
and
not
having
a
packet
for
printers
go
made
it
more
difficult
today
and
I
apologize
for
all
the
questions,
but
as
an
attorney
I,
don't
think
you
know
it's
a
little
different
when
you're
an
attorney
on
one
of
these
boards
there's.
A
A
H
Q
Q
Q
Q
The
hearing
was
properly
noticed
and
all
applicable
parties
notified
of
the
meeting
in
an
accordance
with
the
general
statute
and
County
codes.
You
can
see
here
we
did
our
legal
ad
owners
within
a
thousand
feet.
The
physical
posting
on
the
property
posting
on
the
Buncombe
County
website
and
the
public
hearing
is
to
say.
Q
Q
Q
Foreign,
so
this
chart
Compares
the
different
standards
and
dimensions,
and
if
this
was
a
crew,
there
would
be
some
slight
changes
to
this
chart.
So
the
required
setbacks
off
the
property
lines
would
change
from
10
feet
in
the
front
seven
feet
on
the
sides
and
15
feet
in
the
rear
to
10
in
the
front
side
and
rear,
and
the
maximum
allowed
height
would
increase
from
35
feet
to
50
feet.
Q
So,
in
addition,
the
types
of
uses
allowed
on
the
property
would
increase.
Currently
the
neighborhood
service
zoning
is
a
lower
intensity.
Mixed
use,
District
the
commercial
service
zoning
would
allow
for
uses
such
as
commercial
plant,
planned
unit
developments,
manufacturing,
processing,
motor
vehicle,
impoundment
yards
cargo,
freight
terminals,
storage
and
warehousing
and
Healthcare
facilities,
and
more.
Q
G
Q
H
E
Q
Q
You
know
the
ideal
sort
of
you
know
what
you
would
find
in
the
mixed
use,
neighborhood
and
from
that
character,
description,
the
highest
intensity,
use
of
a
commercial
service
doesn't
really
fit
in
that
character.
Character
description,
especially
for
the
primary
uses.
The
secondary
uses,
are
a
little
bit
more
commercial
oriented.
Q
So
for
that
specific
piece
of
the
character
description,
it
doesn't
match
exactly
just
just
doesn't.
However,
it
does
match
on
a
bunch
of
other
pieces.
So
we
have
waste
water
and
water
availability,
for
instance,
the
density
matches
it's
on.
It's
on
a
great
Transit
Corridor,
it's
already
a
developed
area,
so
it
really
stays
out
of
environmentally
sensitive.
Q
It
hits
on
a
lot
of
other
spots.
It
just
doesn't
hit
on
everything
and
something
also
to
keep
in
mind.
That's
within
the
comp
plan.
If
this
does
get
approved,
it
would
automatically
change
that
parcel
for
future
land
use
maps
to
match
like
the
next
categories
like
mixed
use,
one.
So
this
does
change
this.
Would
this
decision,
if
it
changed,
would
change
the
next
feature
land
use
map
to
meet
to
match
that
character,
description?
If
that
makes
sense
so
I,
don't
know
if
you
have
questions
on
that
as.
H
E
Q
Would
ameliorate
that
aspect
of
it,
and
this
has
given
us
a
much
closer
look
at
that
small
stretch
of
the
long
shoals
Corridor
and
as
staff
I
feel
that
that
may
be
a
good
mixed-use
one
little
Corridor,
it's
less
I
mean
less
than
a
mile
or
just
over
a
mile
from
the
Brevard
Road
intersection,
where
it's
much
more
commercial
down
the
road
and
yeah.
So
that's
kind
of
the
analysis,
part
of
it
I.
Q
H
From
the
existing
youth
standpoint,
I
mean
we
really
can't
it
could
be
used
for
anything
that
would
be
in
the
new
Zone
correct,
regardless
of
what
is
currently
there
and
it
is
a
non-conforming
use.
So
essentially,
we
would
hope
over
time
it
will
phase
out
okay,
but
your
recommendations
relate
to
any
of
the
potential
uses
and
intensities,
not
just
the
existence.
F
It's
actually
helps
people
much
more
developed
with
the
doctors
Department.
It's
actually
a
unique
section
of
that
side
of
the
launch
of
the
road
that
has
super.
We've
got
one
manhole
out
there
and
we're
up
really
soon.
You
know
the
consistent
sexual
long
jump
for
business
activism
and
older
than
150.
E
E
Q
H
I
think
the
board,
though
I
mean
it's
legislative.
So
if
it
was
relevant
to
your
consideration,
you
could
ask
for
it,
but
I
do
think.
It
wouldn't
be
fair
for
us
to
ask
for
something
like
that.
If
we
weren't
telling
people
in
advance
that
this
would
be
an
expectation
on
certain
corridors,
because
that's
not
an
insignificant
cost,
yeah.
G
H
E
C
E
G
Q
D
G
A
G
R
R
R
D
R
P
R
H
R
A
G
A
H
H
Consistency
and
character,
I
think,
are
a
lot
of
what
folks
look
to
us
to
say
is
this
feeling
right
is
this
makes
sense
with
how
my
neighborhood
looks,
or
you
know,
those
are
the
kind
of
things
that
I
I
I
personally
put
a
lot
of
weight
in
I'm,
not
convince
this
is
a
bad
idea.
I'm,
just
those
are
my
initial.
You
know
sort
of
feelings
on
this.
H
The
consistency
matters
to
me
and
particularly
land
use
matters,
but
we
also
have
what
appears
to
be
warehousing
kind
of
commercial
uses
already
and
really
what
we're
talking
about
is
a
little
bit,
maybe
maybe
more
denser
use
commercial
uses
on
the
property
which
doesn't
particularly
problem,
but
that's
just
my
feeling.
That's
part
of
discussion.
A
G
A
And
one
thing
that
I
thought
was
really
valid:
that
you
said
earlier
that
whether
it
applies
to
this
or
how
we
do
this
or
not
remains
a
big
thing.
But
can
you
elaborate
a
little
bit
more
of
the
statement
about
when
we
changed
zoning
in
one
area
and
Zoning
all
over
the
county?
It's
not
just
this
one
piece.
Q
So
it's
so
okay,
so
this
is
a
note
on
the
staff
report.
It's
at
the
beginning
of
section
g
and
it's
just
something
to
keep
in
mind
now
that
we
are
using
the
comprehensive
plan,
because
this
is
a
note
in
the
comp
plan
about
the
future
land
use
map
and
rezonings,
and
so
I
could
I
could
read
it
out.
But
if
a
rezoning
request
is
approved,
that
is
not
consistent
with
the
adopted
comprehensive
plan.
Q
The
zoning
Amendment
shall
have
the
effect
of
also
amending
any
future
land
use
map,
for
instance
the
growth,
equity
and
conservation
map
in
the
approved
plan,
no
additional
request
or
application
for
a
plan.
Amendment
shall
be
required
for
the
statute,
so
that
means
this
approval
would
automatically
make
that
change
and
another
thing
just
to
keep
in
mind
as
we're
using
this
very
new
future
land
use
map
is.
Maybe
there
are
because
it's
a
broad
policy.
Q
Q
H
It
also
May
and
I'm
going
to
be
getting
this
right
that
language
about
amending,
but
essentially
it's
amending
the
comp
plan.
If
we
do
something,
inconsistent
is
really
a
statutory
thing,
so
that
someone
can
say
you
did
something
inconsistent
with
your
comp
plan.
The
answer
is
no.
We
change
it
all
at
the
same
time.
So
it's
more
of
a
cleanup
thing
than
it
is
a
substantive
thing.
It's
just
saying,
if
you're
finding
this
consistent
you're
going
to
amend
both
of
these
things,.
H
Yeah
I
think
we've
just
got
to
be
careful
about.
You
know
if
we
saw
a
lot
of
these
coming
eventually
we're
then
moving
against
the
map
that
we
just
adopted
and
saying
no
we're
fine
with
something
else
and
I
think
that's
where
we
have
to
be
catch.
We
just
went
through
this
process.
We
said
this
is
what
we
wanted
and
so.
D
H
D
So
again,
so
again,
when
you're
making
a
legislative
decision
you
are,
it
is
all
the
things
you
are
looking
at
and
thinking
about,
as
opposed
to
just
one
thing
and
even
the
consultants,
if
you
remember
when
they
talked
about
the
future
land
use
plan
map,
it
is
a
policy
Direction
guide,
but
that's
all.
It
is.
G
D
D
G
Q
K
Q
H
Got
you
can
I
ask
a
question
about
how
this
would
be
your
planning
board
recommendation
and
I'm
just
trying
to
get
a
sense
of
what
we'll
see
coming
down
the
pipeline
is.
This
would
seem.
Is
this
actually
staff's
recommendation?
Are
you
all
just
listing
a
set
of
priorities,
or
is
this
sort
of
we're
not
recommending
this
one?
One
way.
D
H
Q
G
D
H
Yes,
the
only
feedback,
I
sort
of
give
on
these
criteria
is
like,
for
example,
prioritize,
Environmental,
Conservation
and
other
natural
lands
to
protect
and
increase
the
capacity
to
sustain
the
counties.
Existing
biodiversity
number
seven
under
the
plans
and
policies,
we've
got
consistent,
but
the
way
I'm
reading
yours
is
that
this
parcel
doesn't
constitute
an
intact
habitat.
So
I
I
see
the
policy
as
we
want
to
encourage
this,
and
what
I'm
seeing
y'all's
assessment
is
I,
wouldn't
well.
P
H
Q
H
A
Discussions
and
I
can
close
the
hearing
at
this
point
and
just
for
general
knowledge
before
we
do
make
emotions,
there
are
three
options
that
we
have.
We
can
recommend
approval
of
the
proposed
rebound
we
just
presented
because
they
can
approval
of
a
portion
of
the
proposed
rezoning
or
we
can
recommend.
K
P
The
applicant
is
William
H
Christie
on
behalf
of
the
owner,
Warren
Wilson
College,
and
the
properties
located
at
111
Upper,
College
Road.
This
is
a
large
property,
that's
one
of
the
addresses
that
is
located
out
there
and
that
doesn't
represent
the
section
of
the
property
that
is
being
requested
to
be
rezoned.
P
The
area
to
be
rezoned
is
four
and
a
half
acres
out
of
a
Thousand
Acre
property.
It's
currently
in
residential
use
on
the
college's
land
and
it'll
be
served
by
public
water
and
MSD
sewer
system.
You
can
see
the
overall
thousand
acres
and
the
image
on
the
left
there's
kind
of
a
zoomed
in
portion
showing
the
area.
That
is,
that
four
and
a
half
acres
as
part
of
the
request.
P
This
chart
compares
the
dimensional
standards
of
the
two
zoning
districts
and
if
the
rezoning
request
is
approved,
the
minimum
allowed
lot
size
would
decrease
the
required
setbacks
off
of
the
property
lines
would
increase
and
the
maximum
allowed
height
of
the
structures
would
increase.
The
type
of
uses
allowed
would
also
increase.
Currently,
the
R2
zoning
is
primarily
a
residential
district
and
PS
zoning
would
allow
other
types
of
uses,
such
as
commercial,
planned
unit,
development,
greenhouses,
hotels,
medical
clinics,
restaurants
and
so
on.
O
O
We
noticed
in
current
presidential
transition
when
we
were
going
through
some
records
that
it
was
just
never
switched
over
to
the
zoning
that
the
rest
of
the
campus
holds
so
we're
just
looking
to
have
it
in
alignment
with
the
rest
of
Campus.
We
have
no
imminent,
concrete
intentions
of
doing
anything
other
than
what's
already
up
there
right
now,.
E
H
D
H
D
J
H
H
H
G
I
would
like
a
printed
copy,
but,
based
on
what
Mr
Tom
has
said
going
forward,
it
would
make
sense
to
kind
of
have
that
on
an
iPad
where
you
can
refer
to
in
the
meeting,
especially
if
it's
going
to
get
updated
regularly.
That
way,
when
we're
doing
one
of
these
we're
looking
at
the
most
current
version,
does
it
have
the
ability
to
do
that
in
the
future,
going
forward.
D
C
H
Why
I
always
bring
my
computer
I
it
just
as
a
it
would
be
interesting,
I,
don't
know
if
it'd
be
useful
but
interesting
that
as
we
do
this
over
time
being
able,
when
we
have
one
of
them
come
be
able
to
see
all
the
different
sort
of
evolution
across
the
county
is
in
consideration,
particularly
10
years
down
the
road.
Okay,
since
when
you
adopted
it
now,
okay,
here
are
the
changes
you've
made
here.
The
pattern
you
approved
just
as
a
and.
G
G
G
C
H
L
A
D
We
can
do
that
next
month
too.
We
we
thought
next
month
we
can
do
bylaws,
we
can
do
a
subdivision
update
and
we
also
wanted
to
take
you
through
sort
of
our
plan
for
text
amendments
we've
separated
the
text,
amendments
based
on
that
adoption
of
the
comp
plan,
income
modules
and
we
learned
to
review
the
modules
for
you
and
what
the
process
for
those.