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The 5th of a 5 part series that we will be doing about the Community Reparations Commission that is taking place here in Buncombe and the City of Asheville. Our special guests are Dionne Greenlee-Jones, Renata Conyers, and Norma Baynes. They are here to discuss the work and progress of the Health and Wellness Impact Focus Area, a workgroup of the Commission. Learn more about this workgroup and some of the documented harms and draft recommendations to address those harms. Most importantly how the community can support the commission and engage in the process.
A
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to
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Buncombe
County's
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Information
and
topics
learn
more
about
the
topics
of
today's
show
at
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Okay,
it's
time
to
get
tapped
in
hello,
hello,
hello
and
greetings
to
all
that
are
listening
to
my
voice,
and
this
is
tapped
in
and
I'm,
one
of
your
hosts
Zakia
Bell
Rogers
and.
A
B
Today,
episode
is
the
fifth
and
the
final
of
a
five-part
series
that
we've
been
doing
about
the
community
reparations
commission
that
has
taken
place
here
in
Buckingham
County
in
the
city
of
Asheville.
I
would
like
to
introduce
our
special
guest
today:
Dion
Greenland
Jones,
Renata
Conyers
and
Miss
Norma
Bays.
They
are
here
to
discuss
the
work
and
progress
of
the
health
and
wellness
impact
Focus
area.
A
work
group
of
the
commission
welcome
via
Renata
and
Norma
hello.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
The
community
reparations
commission
is
empowered
to
make
recommendations
that
will
make
significant
progress
towards
repairing
the
damage
caused
by
public
and
private
systematic
racism.
The
25-member
commission
was
appointed,
appointments
were
made
by
the
city
and
county
government
impact
focused
areas,
experts
and
Legacy
neighborhoods.
Those
Legacy
neighborhoods
are
Burton
Street,
East,
End,
Easton,
Valley,
Street,
Shiloh,
South,
Side,
Stumptown
and
Asheville
housing
authority
and
the
Heart
of
chestnut.
A
The
commission
receives
ongoing
support
from
the
city
and
county
to
ensure
cohesion
throughout
the
commission
is
a
two-year
term
and
this
term
should
be
ending
between
March
and
April
of
2024.
The
impact
focused
areas
are
criminal,
justice,
health
and
wellness,
housing,
education
and
economic
development.
All.
D
A
D
So
my
name
is
Renata
Conyers
and
I
joined
Commission,
because
I
work
in
public
health
and
I've
been
in
public
health
for
most
of
my
life
for
30
something
years
and
Healthcare
has
always
been
a
part
of
my
life
and
it's
always
going
to
be
around.
That
is
something
that
is
never
going
to
go
away.
That
is
something
that's
never
meant
and
if
any,
if
you
ever
had
a
job,
get.
B
E
E
Name
is
Norma
Banks
and
I've
joined
the
commission
because,
as
a
registered
nurse,
I
know
how
important
health
is
and
it's
important
to
for
all
people
to
know
how
how
health
is
and
what
we
can
do
to
stay
healthy
and
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
people
understand
how
reparations
pay
into
our
health
also.
So
that
is
why
I
join
and
I
hope.
People
will
understand
the
health
needs
of
African-Americans
and
how
we
can
better
have
better
health
care.
C
And
honored
to
be
able
to
work
with
the
Commissioners
I
work
full
time
in
the
space
of
Health
Equity,
where
particularly
with
State
Pilots,
to
help
address
inequities
across
the
state,
and
so
this
was
something
that
was
just
really
exciting
to
be
able
to
work
with
community
members
locally.
Around
disparities
around
addressing
harms
done
and
around
Health
Care
needs
in
general
for
Buncombe,
County
and
Beyond.
So
I'm
just
excited
to
be
here
with
you
all
today
and
has
shared
a
space.
B
D
Meet
every
other
Tuesday
at
Stevens,
Lee,
's
Legion,
if
it's
available
from
we
used
to
be
5
30
to
7,
but
now
we
are
6
to
7
30
and
it's
open
to
the
public.
So
anybody
that
wants
to
come
are
welcome
to
come
and
sit
and
listen
and
join
I
mean
they.
E
C
Right
no,
no.
We
are
grateful,
though,
that
we
have
Commissioners
guests
that
come
and
that
are
regulars.
E
C
The
gallery,
as
we
call
them,
come
and
while
generally
originally,
we
understood
that
folks
were
to
be
observers
because
they
had
been
attending
with
us
so
long.
Sometimes
we
do
open
it
up
for
people
conversations
I
think
the
Commissioners
were
very
deliberate
here
when
we
were
looking
at
scheduling
where
to
have
our
meetings
and
we
wanted
to
be
accessible
and
in
the
community.
Another
reason
for
Stevens
Lee
being
the
location
yeah.
A
So
you
know
you
have
your
regular
attendees,
and
this
is
a
way
that
Community
can
be
involved
indirectly,
but
you
know
get
their
Footprints
out
there.
So
how
does
this
work
with
connecting
to
the
larger
reparations
group
as
a
whole?.
D
A
C
What
the
Commissioners
Envision
as
needs
when
it
comes
to
discussing
reparations,
greater
conversations.
So
the
fact
that
when
we
are
concentrating
initially
in
health
and
wellness,
it
wasn't
unusual,
though,
to
bring
up
an
issue
around
housing
yeah.
It.
C
To
bring
up
you
know
what
are
the
needs
of
those
that
have
been
incarcerated
and
are
coming
back
and
re-entry
and
what
are
their
health
needs
so
we're
looking
at
some
intersections.
So
it's
allowed
us
with
other
ifas
to
attend
some
of
those
meetings
and
have
cohesive
conversations
about
overall,
what
reparations.
A
A
You
said
it
and
there's
an
overlap
and
I
think
people
when
they
think
of
Health
and
Wellness.
They
think
physical
or
your
your
body
parts
moving.
Are
you
able
to
set
up,
but
there
are
so
many
levels
to
health
and
wellness?
So
what
are
some
things
that
have
stood
out
to
you
all,
while
diving
into
the
health
and
wellness
part.
E
Well,
mental
health
is
very
important
and
in
all
aspects
you
know
that
we
have
in
your
housing
economics
all
this
place
on
your
mental
health.
So
when
you
put
all
those
things
together,
it's
all
important.
If
you're
healthy
within
your
mind,
your
body,
then
you
can
better
function
as
a
person
and
help
your
community
and.
C
It's
a
great
point
to
talk
about
what
health
means,
because
now
it's
convenient
the
jargon
as
social
drivers
or
social
determinants
of
Health.
We
know
that
that's
the
80
outside
of
the
20
of
physical
health,
but
again
your
housing
needs
your
education
needs
all
of
these
other
things
that,
as
Miss
Norma
indicated,
make
you
healthy
is
beyond
just
the
physical
health
needs,
but
those
social
drivers
that
help
address
you
being
healthy
as
a
whole
person
and
and
the
intersection
between
all
of
the
ifas
has
really
brought
that
to
our
attention.
C
Well
again,
social
drivers
have
held
are
all
of
those
things
outside
that
people
often
don't
think
about
as
contributors
to
a
person's
home
health.
So
again,
technically,
the
statistic
is
that
you
look
at
20
of
one's
physical
health
needs,
the
other
80
housing,
education,
healthy
food,
all
of
those
things
that
would
help
you
I
mean
just
to
think
about
it.
Transportation,
if
you
don't
have
transportation
to
get
to
your
doctor's
appointments
or
your
medical
appointments,
then
how
does
that
impact?
Your
overall.
D
C
D
Way
out
in
the
country,
they
don't
have
anybody
around
them
to
socialize
with
that's
another
thing.
You
know
you
know
I'm
trying
to
get
them
closer
to
somebody
that
they
can
talk
to
go
to.
You
know
they
need
help
so
because
you
know
nine
times
out
of
ten.
You
know
if
you're
by
yourself
mental
health
is
really
you
know.
Mental
health
is
really
bad.
It's
really
really
going
down,
and
you
know,
as
you
can
saw,
we
standing
outside
talking
about
somebody
walking
by
and
stuff
and
everything
and
so
mental.
D
Another
thing
that's
not
going
to
go
away
because
we
know
we
need.
We
need
cell
civilization,
as
as
we
never
had
before.
You
know.
D
A
E
Yeah
I
was
going
to
say
it's
very
important
when
it
comes
to
seniors,
so
so
many
seniors
who
live
along,
you
know
and
isolation.
It
works
on
your
mental
health
and
I'm
very
happy
to
say
that
shallow
has
a
lot
of
activities
for
seniors,
so
they
can
get
out
and
interact
with
each
other
and
the
nutrition
program
that
we
have.
So
this
is
all
part
of
Mental.
Health
all
need
this
and,
of
course,
as
a
senior
I
know
that
the
senior
student.
B
C
Well,
we
are
keenly
aware
of
the
lack
of
access
to
health
care.
A
C
D
A
Well,
you
know
and
I
remember
hearing
some
how
the
folks
talk
had
one
of
the
reparations
meeting
and
I
can't
remember
what
it
or
what
the
main
topic
was,
but
one
of
them
said
that
they
used
to
get
their
teeth
pulled
by
veterinarians
because
they
didn't
have
access
to
dental
services
and
so,
but
how
does
that
play
on
like
families
act
just
accessing?
D
C
If
you
you
couple
that
with
the
lack
of
dentists
who
were
actually
seeing
African
Americans,
if
you
couple
that
with
the
fact
that
you
know
the
people,
they
are
we're
in
rural
Western,
we're
in
rural
North
Carolina.
So
how
could
you
even
travel
to
a
place
that
would
have
practitioners
who
would
see
you
all
of
these
are
barriers
or
were
barriers
and
continue
to
be
barriers
when
we
talk
about
also
Miss
Norma
was
amazing
and
talking
about
one
of
our
recommendations
about
no
cost
or
how
can
we
look
at
the
accessibility
to
care?
C
E
One
of
the
things
and
we've
all
talked
about
years
ago
when
they
were
midwives
and
and
my
grandmother
was
a
midwife
and
a
lot
of
people
used
to
come
to
cut
children.
You
know
when
they
were
sick,
so
that
was
some
of
the
ways
that
they
got
their
medical
care
really
by
the
elders
in
in
the
community
in
the
midwest.
E
She
also
worked
with
Dr
hope,
which
was
one
of
the
Afro-American
doctors
that
was
here
in
Asheville
and
and
I,
had
gone
with
her
many
times,
because
I
wasn't
in
the
same
room
with
her
when
she
delivered
babies,
but
I
got
to
meet
a
lot
of
people
that
way
and
and
realized.
You
know,
as
I
got
older
what
was
really
going
on.
They
couldn't
go
to
the
hospital,
so
they
had
their
baby
at
home
and
they
needed
the
Midwife
to
do
that.
B
D
D
C
When
we
talk
about
accountability,
what
roles
did
City
County
institutional
structures
play
in
in
the
barriers
to
access
to
health
and
and
we've
had
the
opportunity
to
hear
from
Dr
Sharon
West
about
historical
centers
of
Health
that
no
longer
many
of
them
no
longer
exist.
C
The
fact
that
organizations
didn't
get
the
kind
of
subsidies
or
or
support
fiscal
support
to
continue
all
of
these
impacted
the
historical
health
of
many
of
our
friends
and
neighbors,
a
fellow
African-Americans
and
continue.
Sometimes
today,
it's
just
it's
it's
kind
of
sad,
the
fact
that
we're
in
2023-
and
it's
still
we're
still
having
these
same
types
of
fights.
A
And
he
said
you
know
you
were
saying
the
African-American
hospitals
and
things
of
that
nature.
I
did
not
realize
because
I'm
I'm,
not
a
native,
like
a
lot
of
you
all,
are
and
when
I
moved
here
it
wasn't
a
hospital
anymore.
It
was
a
you.
B
B
A
I
was
amazed
and
I
think
just
like
to
see
it
and,
like
you
know,
being
at
that
time
being
a
kid
and
understanding.
Oh
wow
like
this
is
the
hospital
that
people
who
look
like
me
could
only
go
to
and
work
at
and
see
all
those
things,
and
you
know
it's
really
sad
when
they
tore
it
down
and
made
it
into
a
parking
lot,
but
I
think
it
is
so
amazing
that
you
know
that
even
at
that
time
there
was
such
a
thing
as
a
hospital
for
us
so
that
we
could.
A
You
know
it
may
not
have
been
top
notch
like
the
other
hospital,
but
they
were
doing
all
they
could
to
help
the
community
and
I
think
you
know
we
forget
those
things
as
well
because
they
disappear
it.
D
D
D
We
had
Sharon
come
to
our
as
a
guest
speaker
and
she
was
giving
us
information
on
stuff
on
the
hospital
and
when
people
can
go
and
everything
and
it's
been
nice
to
see
pictures
I,
don't
know,
maybe
that's
we
could
see
what
it
was
up
like
before.
Then
it
became
a
Eugene
yeah
Attorney
office,
and
then
that
was
it
yeah
well.
E
I
remember
having
my
tonsils
remember,
joked
and
my
grandfather
being
there
with
me.
You
know,
and
he
sit
by
my
bed
all
night.
I
can
still
vision
and
make
sure
I
was
okay,
but
I
was
a
patient
there.
So
that
is
one
of
my
memories
of
the
hospital
is
being
there
and.
B
I
know
y'all
mentioned
Dr
Sharon
West
has
come
out
who
has
been
some
other
community
members
have
come
and
shared
information
with
your
IFA
work
group.
C
Well,
we've
had
some
community
events
where
we
were
in
partnership
with
the
racial
Justice,
Coalition
and
other
entities
where
we
were
able
to,
and
it
was
the
first
one
back
in
February
and
we
were
excited
to
propose
this
or
when
we
heard
a
lot
of
concern
that
there
wasn't
enough
Community
engagement,
so
that
gave
us
an
opportunity
to
have
people
from
all
over
around
the
county
and
actually
from
Beyond,
come
and
sit
and
talk
about
this.
But
we've
also
had
attorneys
from
the
city.
C
D
B
D
D
E
D
Whatever
because
everything
has
to
do
with
funding,
so
if
we
can't
name
it
Africana,
if
it
can't
be
named
African-American
for
reparations
and
what
then,
what
are
we
supposed
to
name
it,
and
there's
been
a
lot
of
conversation
about
that.
C
The
fact
that
should
be
used
instead
of
African-American
reparations
for
the
African-American
Community,
should
you
use
for
marginalized
or
for
underrepresented
and
there's
the
thought
on
one
hand
that
it'll
be
easier
to
get
funding
it'll
be
easier
for
reparation
to
pass
and
because
of
also
Federal
restrictions.
Now,
but
many
of
the
Commissioners
were
like,
but
wait
a
minute,
it
was
all
about
African-Americans
being
disenfranchised.
Why
can't
you
be
honest
and
truthful
about
that
and
say
that
versus
you
know
marginalized
or
any
of
the
other
jargon?
That's.
D
A
C
African-Americans
be
who
have
been
traumatized
by
this,
could
be
yeah
embedded
in
that
and
and
that's
that's
troubling
for
many
Commissioners
and.
D
Another
thing
is
that
if
we
change
it,
it's
like
don't
think
the
fight
is
going
to
go
where
it's
supposed
to
go
mm-hmm
so
and
that
that's
that's
another
thing
of
changing
a
name
to
suffice,
someone
else,
so
the
money
can
supposedly
go
where
it
needs
to
go,
which
I
personally
don't
think
it
might
not
go.
If
we
end
up
changing
it,
because.
D
E
Well,
absolutely
believe
we
should
say
it
like
it
should
be,
and
of
course,
the
United
States
have
given
reparation
to
so
many
other
groups,
and
they
said
it
like.
It
was
supposed
to
be
said.
Well,
what's
wrong
with
saying
it
now
we
are
afro-americans.
We
all
ancestors
endured
so
much
so
much
the
harm
is
there
and
even
we
are
still
have
the
DNA
from
the
from
what
happened
to
them.
That
have
that's
why
we
have
all
these
illness
and
everything
else.
C
And
when
we
think
about
this,
you
know
even
more
than
area
ever
when
you're
hearing
on
a
daily
basis
on
television
stations,
about
changing
the
narrative
and
whether
or
not
African-Americans
truly
endure
trauma.
C
And
so
this
is
another
way
of
reinforcing
this.
Normal
was
right.
We
were
able
to
see
reparations
given
out
to
Native
American
groups
to
Chinese
Americans
to
other
groups,
and
we
don't
recall
their
ethnicities
or
racial
backgrounds
being
changed
that
nomenclature
to
address
that.
So
this
has
been
an
interesting
process,
so.
D
Here's
a
I
want
to
add
that
one
of
our
other
customers
wrote,
and
so
she
wrote
excuse
me.
We
have
face
challenges
and,
of
course,
getting
data
requests
submitted,
completed
and
timely
Fashions,
not
just
us,
but
of
course
other
ifas
and
in
fact,
we're
still
waiting
on
a
number
of
requests
submitted
months
ago
last
year,
also
as
we
as
a
commission
as
we,
we
as
commissions,
have
not
been
supported,
engaging
with
black
communities
in
deep
and
meaningful
ways.
Despite
bringing
this
up.
D
A
A
A
Am
going
to
ask
each
one
of
you
all
to
leave
our
listeners
with
something
as
we
get
ready
to
wrap
up
and
Miss
Norma.
A
C
That
Asheville
Buncombe
County
is
one
of
the
few
cities
areas
in
the
country
addressing
this
directly.
So
it's
a
privilege
to
be
working
with
this
process.
It
has
not
always
been
easy,
but
it's
important
nonetheless,
and
so
I'm
just
excited
that
we
have
a
core
group
of
Commissioners
that
are
just
really
devoted
for
us
to
address.
Not
just
past
harms,
but
us
moving
forward.
D
Oh
I
mean
we
just
I
I,
look
at
accountability
for
us,
you
know,
accountability
and,
and
then
you
know
here
we
just
I'm
gonna
I'm,
also
trying
to
include
mod
and
the
other,
our
other
IFA
person.
She
wrote
the
process,
you
know
expect
oppositions,
you
know,
build
community-wise
support,
you
know
Define
what
reparation
means
in
our
in
your
local
community,
and
you
know
we
just
need
to
also
Define
what
really
reparation
means
to
us.
You
know,
and
you
know,
work
through
it.
You
know,
and
you
know,
make
plans
so.
D
A
B
And
so
I
ended
how
I
have
of
the
past
five
recordings
we
did
on
this
five
part
series
around
reparations
is.
B
A
need
for
Community
to
support
and
rally
around
this
commission
to
kind
of
give
input,
give
feedback,
so
we
can
make
the
best
decisions
going
for
our
community
going
forward,
and
so
I
was
just
like
to
remind
people
if
you're
looking
for
more
information
around
the
health
and
wellness
IFA,
as
they
mentioned,
to
meet
every
other
Tuesday
from
6
to
7,
30
p.m,
and
that's
at
the
Stevens
Lee
recreation
center
and
I
believe
that
physical
address
is
30,
George,
Washington,
Carver
Avenue
and
that's
in
Asheville
to
8806,
and
so
they
meet
every
Tuesday
from
that
6
30
to
7
30
p.m.
B
Meetings
have
been
recorded,
especially
with
at
large
Meat,
and
you
can
find
that
information.
If
you
visit
the
city
engagement,
Hub
at
publicinsput.com,
backslash,
AVL,
repre
reparations
and
there
you
can
find
out,
you
can
get
caught
up
on
what's
happening
with
this
initiative.
The
prior
meetings
and
allow
your
agent
allow
you
a
chance
to
give
feedback.
So
again
that
address
the
video
City
engagement.
B
Hub
is
at
public
input.com,
backslash
abl
reparation
and
you
can
find
out
more
information
but
again,
I
hope
you
enjoy
these
five
recordings
around
the
reparation
ifas
and
we
strongly
encourage
Community
to
participate.
A
Cake
and
thinking
about
that
process,
you
know
for
so
long.
You
always
take
the
easy
route,
you
know
we
go
and
we
buy
the
box,
and
all
we
have
to
do
is
add
a
couple
of
things
to
it
here
and
there
well.
This
process
is
like
taking
that
box
cake
and
putting
it
to
the
side
and
building
a
cake
from
scratch.
A
You
have
to
you
find
out
that
it's
very
difficult,
it's
not
just
adding
flour,
you
have
to
actually
sift
the
flour,
adding
eggs.
You
actually
have
to
put
your
wet
ingredients
together
before
you
put
your
dry
ingredients
together.
There
are
so
many
steps,
and
so
many
processes
and
though
you
do
everything
you
think
absolutely
perfect
into
the
team.
That
cake
might
not
turn
out
right
the
first
time,
and
so
you
try
again
and
you
try
again
so.
A
Part
of
this
cake,
are
you
willing
to
be?
Are
you
willing
to
help
sift
through
the
issues
so
that
we
can
have
the
best
flower
for
the
okay?
Are
you
willing
to
crack
open
the
hard
documents
and
read
through
those
like
that
egg
and
add
it
into
the
wet
mix?
Are
you
there
to
lend
your
strength
on
everybody
else's
tired
and
stir
all
those
ingredients
together
until
we
come
up
with
a
plan?