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Infrastructure Oversight Board Meeting - May 26, 2022
C
D
B
F
Yes,
honorable
chair
board
members
great
to
see
you
great
to
be
here,
I
wanted
to
let
you
know
and
appreciate
the
great
meeting
that
we
had
the
joint
meeting
with
the
transportation
commission
last
month
now.
F
As
you
know,
staff
was
tasked
by
the
city
council
to
report
back
to
them
after
the
joint
meeting
occurred,
and
we
had
your
input
and
both
the
board
and
the
commission
moved
to
seek
clarification
on
which
body
would
have
input
on
traffic
safety
matters,
and
that
is
all
good,
and
that
is
what
we
will
do.
Mr
chrisky
assistant
community
development
director
and
I
will
get
back
to
council.
F
We
will
keep
you
apprised
of
when
that
date
is
so
that
is
my
first
announcement,
and
I
think
I
should
let
you
know
if
you
did
not
see
yourself
tuesday
night.
The
overall
city
budget,
which
includes
rates
and
capital
program
budgets,
was
approved
by
a
council
unanimously.
It's
a
almost
800
million
dollar
total
budget
and
we
are
balanced
and
in
good
shape,
and
I
personally
appreciate
all
your
help
in
putting
that
together
for
their
approval,
and
I
think
one
thing
I
should
note
they
were
in
receipt
and
did
discuss
in
the
study
session.
F
The
board's
request,
for,
I
guess
I'd,
say
flexibility
to
say,
potentially
increase
the
minimum
measure,
p
commitment
during
the
budget
and
they
talked
about
it
and
decided
that
the
I'll
sum
it
up
without
getting
into
a
discussion.
The
flexibility
is
inherent
in
the
process,
so
they're
going
to
keep
the
minimum
at
that.
4.7
million
dollar
measure
p
capital
program,
but
always
considering
the
amount
of
additional
monies
that
come
in
during
the
future
years.
So
appreciated
that,
and
I
appreciate
it
so.
Thank
you
very
much.
G
Hello
good
evening,
everyone,
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
an
announcement,
it's
more
like
a
request,
but
I
think
this
is
the
best
place
in
the
agenda
for
it
to
fall.
I
live
on
fairmount
road
and
the
pavement
process
came
through
and
they
sealed
my
the
cracks
on
the
road,
and
I
wanted
to
make
a
quick
comment
that
it
was
seem
seamless
that
they
put
up
signs.
They
put
flyers
on
their
doors,
told
us
we
had
had
to
stay
off
the
streets
for
a
certain
amount
of
time.
G
F
Through
the
chair,
clarification,
what
is
what
exactly
is
is
the
request.
G
To
visit
us
a
road
that
they
are
sealing,
the
cracks
on
and
kind
of
watch
the
process
from
beginning
to
end,
if
possible,.
F
Sure
I
I
think
that's
that's
fine.
We
could
arrange
that
for
any
of
you
that
doesn't
have
to
be
a
request
through
a
board
meeting.
We
can
accommodate
that
with
proper
safety
protocols.
I
mean
we
have
to
think
about
being
in
the
public
right
away
in
an
active
construction
site
but
to
to
be
sure
from
the
perhaps
public
right-of-way
of
sidewalk.
That
could
be
done.
F
G
Yes,
I
just
wanted
to
say
I
was
very
impressed
by
the
process
we're
doing
great
work
in
the
city
of
burbank.
Here.
A
A
You
all
right,
let's
move
into
the
minutes,
so
as
a
reminder
last
meeting
we
had
made
some
requests
to
update
the
minutes,
so
we
have
two
sets
of
minutes
to
review
and
approved
tonight.
We
have
the
april
28th
and
march
24th
minutes
for
clarification.
Do
we
need
to
approve
them
separately
or
can
we
approve
them
together
or
if
there's
no
conversation
or.
F
Madam
chair,
there
are
two
separate
approval
of
minutes,
one
for
april
28th
and
one
for
march
24th,
which
need
to
be
considered
separately.
A
Great
okay,
thank
you
all
right.
Let's
start
with
the
april
28th
minutes,
which
was
our
last
meeting.
This
was
the
the
joint
meeting
with
the
transportation
commission.
Do
we
have
any
comments
before
we
make
a
motion
to
approve
mr
jackson.
H
G
I
left
the
meeting
before
it
ended
as
well,
so
I'll
abstain
as
well.
A
B
So,
let's
take
the
vote.
Okay,
armani
navasian
is
abstaining.
Walter
brennan,
jr,
maria
coronado,
abstaining,
greg
jackson,
abstaining
vanessa,
rochelle
approved,
approved,
okay,
tamale
takahashi;
yes,
approve
and
jeff
vanderbilt.
Yes,
thank
you.
A
H
I'd
like
to
thank
staff
they're
better.
They
don't,
however,
capture
really
the
essence
of
my
concerns
about
what
we
were
acting
on.
I
mean
well.
My
concerns
were
two-fold:
one:
the
escalating
cost
of
some
of
the
projects
that
were
before
us
and
the
lack
of
explanation
as
to
why
they
had
increased
dramatically
and
the
other.
My
contentions
I've
said
numerous
times
is
that
I
don't
think
a
number
of
the
projects
qualified
for
the
use
of
prop
p
funds,
because
they
weren't
listed
on
the
voluminous
list
of
of
unfunded
needs
needed
projects.
H
But
you
know,
as
was
pointed
out
by
our
director,
the
issues
moot
the
council
has
approved
it,
so
we
can
battle
this
next
year.
If
I'm
here.
Thank
you.
A
A
Thank
you,
and
I
would
like
to
reflect
mr
jackson's
comments
about
that,
thanking
staff
for
going
back
and
revising
them
appreciate
that
it
was
a
lot
of
work.
We
asked
you
to
do
so.
We
appreciate
you
doing
that
and
and
updating
them
for
us.
A
D
F
K
K
For
the
purpose
of
our
presentation
tonight,
the
projects
are
broken
down
into
three
categories.
We
have
the
municipal
facility,
cip
projects
and
parks,
recreation
projects
and
traffic
transportation,
pedestrian
access
projects.
Each
category
has
are
divided
into
two
sections.
The
first
section
is
the
projects
that
were
approved
in
fiscal
year
2122
and
also
carryover
projects.
K
Many
of
these
projects
were
either
in
the
final
stages
of
design
or
have
the
design
have
been
completed.
The
project
manager
for
maxim
park,
restroom,
building,
downtown
metrolink,
metro
station,
elevator,
orange
grove,
parking
structure
and
cysb
is
working
with
purchasing
to
finalize
the
bid
document
to
go
out
to
bid.
K
As
far
as
the
parks
projects,
most
of
the
parks
and
rec
creation
project
delivery
method
is
either
design
build
project
or
a
co-op
cooperative
agreement
projects.
That's
it's
a
method
of
the
project
delivery.
As
far
as
the
the
contract
agreement
with
the
the
contractor
parks
project
manager
are
working
with
purchasing
to
finalize
the
agreements
and
and
start
construction
for
many
of
these
projects.
K
The
bell
golf
course
netting
replacement
and
bunker
project
is
in
construction
at
this
time
and
it
is
scheduled
for
completion
by
july
of
2022
and
the
bell
irrigation
project,
which
is
also
in
construction,
is
to
be
completed
by
august
of
2022,
and
the
the
community
garden
is
scheduled
for
a
soft
opening
of
next
next
week
on
may
30th
and
brace
canyon
park.
Ballpark
has
started
a
public
engagement
process
with
an
online
survey
and
we'll
have
follow-up
meetings
with
the
with
the
community.
K
For
the
traffic
transportation,
pedestrian
access
projects,
the
fiscal
year,
2122
annual
residential,
paving
project,
the
the
project
that
board
member
coronado
was
talking
about,
they
actually
started
construction
and
the
project
is
scheduled
to
be
completed
by
november
of
2022,
the
sidewalk
project,
the
2122
sidewalk
rehab
projects.
The
bids
actually
opened
this
past
tuesday
and
with
council
approval
and
the
the
contract
execution.
The
project
should
probably
start
construction
in
the
next
two
to
three
months,
and
then
we
have
the
arterial
paving
rehab
project.
K
The
project
manager
right
now
is
working
with
the
purchasing
division,
to
complete
the
bid
document
and
go
after
bid
and
for
glen
oaks
boulevard
project
due
to
the
long
lead
time
for
the
purchase
of
the
traffic
post.
The
procurement
process
for
the
material
started
in
january
and
the
project
manager
is
actually
working
with
purchasing
right
now
to
get
the
rest
of
the
bid
document
out
for
bid.
K
K
And
then
we
have
the
bell
driving
range
improvement,
the
construction
cost
about
275
000
and
it
was
completed
in
january
of
2022,
and
you
have
the
before
and
in
construction
pictures
as
you
can
see,
and
the
improvement
the
difference
from
the
before
and
after
is
tremendous.
As
you
can
see,
this
really
really
appealing,
and
I
think
I
want
to
go
there
and
hit
some
balls
now
and
you
can
see
the
after,
and
this
is
the
maxim
lighting
modernization
park.
K
K
This
is
the
after
project.
You
could
see
how
well
the
the
light
sacks
illuminate
the
the
dart
there
at
night,
and
then
we
have
the
ball
field.
Lighting
ice
at
isaiah
and
valley
park
at
about
six
hundred
thousand
dollars,
and
the
project
was
completed
in
february
of
2022,
and
you
can
see
the
the
isaiah
park
lit
up
that
night
and
the
valley
park
field
lit
up,
and
I
play
softball
at
another
city,
and
definitely
I
don't
get
that
kind
of
lighting
there.
So
huge
improvement.
K
And
then
you
have
the
the
underground
storage
tank
replacement
at
cysb
and
the
project
cost
was
about
thirty
thousand
dollars
and
it
was
completed
in
april
of
2022,
and
here
are
some
few
constructions
and
the
projects
and
construction
that
I
wanted
to
highlight.
K
We
have
the
debail
golf
course:
netting
replacement
and
bunker
improvement
project,
that's
at
about
319
000
and
it
is
scheduled
to
be
completed
by
july
of
2022,
and
you
can
see
the
netting
the
that
portion
that
was
completed
the
before
and
after
and
you
could
definitely
it
will
improve
the
safety
of
drivers
driving
along
that
street
there.
K
And
then
you
have
the
bell
irrigation
improvement
at
about
1.8
million
dollars
and
it's
scheduled
to
be
completed
by
august
of
2022
and
then
the
purple
pipes
you
see
there.
Those
are
the
recycled
water.
So
it's
not
potable
water
that
you
they're
using
so
all
purple
pipes
or
purple
like
meter
boxes.
If
you
ever
see
that
that
indicates
that
it's
recycled
water
and
then
we
have
the
annual
21
22
annual
residential,
paving
project.
A
K
H
K
The
the
funding
source
yeah-
this
is,
I
believe,
there's
some
measure,
p
funds
and
also
fun
534.
I
mean
fun
370,
but
I
don't
know
the
details.
I
would
have
to
get
back
to
you
on
the
the
breakdown
of
the
the
funding
source.
H
But
that
then
brings
me
the
question:
why
did
we
spend
three
quarters
of
a
million
dollars
of
prop
p
funds
on
the
police
fire
building
for
roof
replacement
yeah?
If
it
hasn't
been
done
before
they
must
have
been
able?
They
being
you
know,
the
gentleman
and
lady
that
set
up
here
been
able
to
find
other
sources
of
funds
rather
than
rating
the
prop
fee,
prop
p
fund.
K
F
And
may
I,
before
assistant,
director,
myron
sarkeesian
comes
up.
He
oversees
fleet
and
building
program.
The
one
key
point
that
I'd
like
to
make
for
the
board
and
the
public
watching
annual
roof
repair
replacement
annual
anything.
Unless
it's
like
identified
like
we
do
now,
with
our
sidewalks
and
the
residential
paving
and
the
arterial
paving
when
I
came,
it
was
too
broad
a
context.
We
can't
follow
exactly
what's
being
done
and
the
financing
that's
being
done.
F
So
that's
a
significant,
a
small
but
significant
improvement
that
we've
done
for
transparency
to
make
sure
projects
actually
have
a
real
scope
and
budget
and
schedule
defined
as
opposed
to
annual
this
or
annual
that.
So
it's
a
fair
point
I'll.
Let
mr
sarkeesian
elaborate
a
little
bit,
but
it's
probably
a
multi-year
project
that
we
now,
for
example,
don't
have
that
we
don't
put
like
the
pd
fire
headquarters
roofing
in
that
annual.
We
call
it
out.
Specifically,
we
have
a
scope.
We
have
defined
budgets
and
budget
sources.
So
it's
a
great
question.
F
We
appreciate
it
myron.
L
Good
evening
board
chair,
so
this
money
was
grandfathered
in
before
a
prop
b
came
along.
We
had
this
money
designated
for
specific
buildings
to
re-roof,
including
all
of
jocelyn
adult
center
and
some
other
facilities.
L
So
that's
where
this
money
comes
from
it
and
we
used
to
have
that
annual
program
and
and
but
the
police
fire
building
is
a
separate
project,
and
so
we
asked
for
the
money
for
that
and
this
money
wouldn't
wouldn't
be
used
for
a
police
fire,
because
it's
already
designated.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
mr
jackson.
Yeah
mr
vanderport.
E
K
F
Yes,
it
does
go
out
of
service
from
time
to
time,
and
it
is
our
responsibility
once
we
find
out
to
get
our
contractors
out
there
to
make
the
repairs.
This
is
a
definitely
a
needed
project
that
really
a
major
project
to
make
it.
You
know,
function
and
be
operable
in
the
long
term.
E
Thank
you.
I
just
happened
to
walk
by
that
boulevard
regularly,
so
I
see
the
elevator.
I
use
the
ramp
up
and
down,
but
I
see
it
sometimes
with
signs
it's
not
working.
So
I
was
just
curious.
Thank
you
just
to
piggyback
it's
not
on
this
project,
but
it's
on
the
approved
projects.
The
issue
of
the
hand
rail
on
all
on
the
olive
bridge.
Just
out
of
curiosity,
where,
where
are
we
on
that
project,.
F
Yeah,
mr
heinel,
so
thank
you
board,
member
vanderbort.
That
was
a
specific
follow-up
from
city
council
as
well,
and
I
could
share
that
with
you
all
that
this
current
year
there
is
a
project
to
get
the
rail
replacements
on
both
magnolia
and
olive
going,
and
we
were
preparing
the
rfp
to
bring
a
designer
on
board
the
specific
additional
direction
provided
by
council
tuesday
night.
I
believe,
no,
not
tuesday.
The
previous.
F
The
17th
was
to
also
look
to
have
the
to
task
the
designer
with
two
more
aesthetic
options,
because
this
this
railing
and
bridges
of
course
go
over
railroad
and
they
go
over
freeway
and
those
agencies
definitely
have
their
standards
and
requirements.
F
So
we
can
meet
those,
but
there's
also
the
option
of
maybe
something
a
little
more
pleasing
to
the
eye
that
we
will
consider
and
the
goal,
given
the
fact
that
there's
also
discussions
of
a
widening
of
olive
bridge
again,
that
was
something
that
was
was
ongoing
years
before
I
got
here
to
potentially
work
with
metro
and
their
brt
efforts
and
provide
a
station
an
actual
station
on
what
the
other
side
of
olive
bridge.
So,
no
matter
which
side
somebody
is
traveling
on
a
rapid
bus.
E
Thank
you
very
much
appreciate
it.
It's
exciting.
Hopefully
it
happens
and
we
see
it
in
in
my
lifetime.
I
have
a
couple
other
quick
questions
under
the
traffic
transportation
and
pedestrian
access.
I
know
mr
hunt.
This
may
not
be
in
your
in
your
wheel
of
information,
but
the
status
of
the
chandler
bikeway
extension,
where
we
showed
985
thousand
dollars.
F
I
can
start
that
off
madam
chair
and
I
know
assistant
community
development
director
david
crisky
is
here
and
he
can
pop
up
if
I
get
something
wrong
or
leave
out
of
detail,
but
chandler
at
this
point,
staff
were
in
the
process
of
procuring
a
consultant
for
design
services
as
well.
F
E
Thank
you
very
much,
also
exciting,
and
hopefully
it
happens
in
my
lifetime.
Then
the
olive
verdugo
intersection
improvements.
I
know
that
has
a
lot
of
neighborhood
input
that
is
critical
to
its
progress,
but
I
was
wondering
if
there's
been
any
progress
on
that
sure.
F
It's
been
a
while.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
board
member
vanderbort.
That
was
one
of
my
follow-up,
slides
from
the
17th
council
meeting
as
well.
I'm
happy
to
share
that
with
you,
the
the
olive
there's
the
oliver
dugo
sparks
right.
That's
what
we're
talking
about.
E
It's
all
of
that
engine
sparks
yes,
just
wanted
to
clear
my
mind.
F
So
we
it's
a
potential.
It's
gonna
be
a
reconfiguration
of
that
six-legged
intersection,
we're
looking
to
provide
safety
for
all
roadway
users
and
actually
provide
some
landscaping
and
kind
of
a
public
open
space
to
improve
that
area.
We
expect
to
come
back
again
later
in
the
summer
coming
up
and
with
revised
project
alternatives
and
revised
cost
estimates.
This
is
all
measure
r
funded
and
right
now
we
have
1.6
million
for
design
and
potentially
partially
construction
as
well
and
we're
looking
to
weave
in
and
address
some
additional
improvements,
as
suggested
by
residents
from
public
outreach.
A
Just
following
up
on
that
that
same
topic
with
the
all
sparks
intersection,
is
that
where
you
were
going
to
talk
about
something,
is
there
going
to
be
coordination
between
the
incoming
brt
as
well
on
that
intersection?
And
how
is
that
going
to
work.
F
Sure,
madam
chair,
both
the
brt
potential
coming
into
the
the
olive
arterial
as
well.
As
you
know,
neighborhood
protection
plans
from
development.
That's
occurring
on
olive
will
be
considered
as
well.
I
A
couple
things
for
mr
hahn
number
one
I
mentioned
briefly
beforehand:
issue
of
like
the
police
department,
roofing
issues,
repairs
and
then
you're
also
replacing
hvac
equipment
up
there
future.
Perhaps
you
can
put
it
together
when
you
put
these
things
together,
id
who's
going
to
be
responsible
for,
like
installing
hvac
equipment,
particularly
since,
in
my
experience
there
could
be
issues
and
having
looked
at
the
roof
as
produced
by
storage,
mirror
the
idea
that
that
particular
roof
installed
20
odd
years
ago.
I
The
other
issue
would
be
flooring
at
the
police
headquarters
in
the
future.
Remember
my
experience
except
nationally,
as
well
as
locally
when
you're
doing
flooring.
What
kind
of
point
are
we
talking
about
rugs?
We
talk
about
safety
issues
on
a
concrete
floor.
You
remember:
we've
got
firemen
that
come
off
the
street
wearing
rubber
boots.
They
got
to
change
their
gear
and
presuming
a
locker
room
shower
up.
That's
flooring
too.
So
what
kind
of
flooring
are
we
talking
about?
So
when
someone
says
what
kind
of
flooring
are
we
doing?
I
F
Madam
chair,
so
a
couple
things.
The
same
project
manager
that
is
handling
the
hvac
is
handling
the
roof,
so
there's
definite
coordination
there
and
to
make
sure
you
know
the
logistics
are
followed
and
we
don't
do
things
out
of
order
and
good
work
that
is
done
is
not
destroyed
for
more
work.
I
I'm
thinking
in
terms
of
not
only
the
construction
manager
from
the
city,
but
like
the
contractors,
the
contractor,
we're
doing
the
roof.
Repair
is
also
responsible
for
the
guy
putting
in
the
hvac
equipment
and
there's
two
separate
types
of
contracts:
our
contractors,
but
the
overall
who's
going
to
make
sure
that
they've
done
their
good
job
as
well
as
facilities
manager
or
whoever
the
project
manager
is
for
the
city.
That's
what
I'm
getting
at.
F
So
both
the
project
manager
from
the
city
and
we
either
have
in-house
inspection
or
we
hire
contractors
with
the
expertise,
consultants.
I
I
K
Okay
and
as
far
as
the
pd
flooring,
it's
there's
going
to
be
a
mix
of
different
type
of
flooring.
Right
now
this
is
a
first
phase
or
or
we're
trying
to
identify
the
the
real
area.
That's
needed
to
be
replaced,
and
so
the
budget
for
that
right
now
for
this
portion
of
the
project,
we're
it's
a
smaller
project
and
then
in
the
future.
What
we're
going
to
do
is
put
a
bigger
project
together
and
then
we're
actually
going
to
go
out
to
bit
the
first
phase.
This
phase
that
we're
working
on
right.
K
I
I
F
So
through
the
chair
respectfully
board
member,
the.
F
Our
internal
departments
that
we
serve
are
our
customers
and
nothing
goes
in
with
other
departments
into
other
departments
facilities
without
their
specific
input.
I
don't
know
who
mr
han
doesn't
know
what
pd
and
fire
needs
for
flooring.
We
asked
them.
We
know
it's
at
the
end
of
the
life
and
we
get
together
with
them
and
say
what
is
it
you
would
like
here,
so
they're,
really
the
ones
as
a
just
like
if
you're
building
your
home.
I
would
like
this.
F
I
need
this
and
we
work
that
into
the
budget
and
that's
where
we
report
the
scope,
budget
and
schedule
to
this
board
annually.
We
set
it
up
the
details
not
to
not
to
the
specific
type
of
flooring.
In
this
example,
for
example,
no
more
than
roofing
or
windows
or
any
other
things
that
we're
doing
or
the
the
the
type
of
asphalt
that
is
going
into
our
roadway
rehabilitation
projects,
but
definitely
setting
the
program
up
every
year,
reporting
to
have
a
quarterly
basis
and
answering
those
questions
for
sure.
We're
happy
to
do.
H
Ken
and
you've
come
to
us
and
asked
us
to
approve
millions
of
dollars
for
flooring
and
other
items
and
on
the
police
fire
building
over
the
four
years.
It's
over
a
million
dollars
and
all
you
said
to
us
for
flooring.
You
know
I
need
not
great
detail,
but
I
need
more
explanation
if
you
want
my
yes
vote.
H
H
You
know
I
at
least
want-
and
I
think
some
of
my
colleagues
here
want
at
least
more
information
as
to
these
big
ticket
items
and
why
they
cost
so
much
and
what
the
city
is
getting
for
it
and
just
saying,
because
it's
not
you
know
where
it's
not
within
our
purview
of
micromanaging.
F
Exactly
and
and
the
the
board
opinion
and
board
members,
individual
opinions
are
noted
for
the
record
and
the
vote
is
taken,
so
I
I
absolutely
understand-
and
we
will
do
our
best-
to
provide
the
proper
level
of
detail
and
answer
the
questions
the
best
we
can.
As
we
present
you
know
what
is
an
annual
now
18
million
dollar
program
to
you.
C
Just
one
request:
I
think
the
format
of
this
report
is
a
little
bit
changed.
Is
there
a
way
that
for
the
next
report
we
can
you
can
report
us
that
how
much
of
this
budget
is
already
spent.
F
Yes,
that
is
definitely
a
goal.
In
this
case,
it
was
a
report
on
the
projects
that
were
completed
in
the
past
two
quarters.
It
is
definitely
a
goal
in
future
quarterly
reports
to
say
what
phase
we
are
in
and
the
overall
budget
for
the
project
and
for
the
phase
and
how
much
basically
percent
complete
so
a
great
point,
and
we
appreciate
it-
we
can
get
that
in
there.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
for
that
comment.
I
think
the
common
thread
between
the
last
two
comments
is
that
sometimes
the
numbers
presented
on
the
reports
aren't
the
meaning
behind
them
is
a
little
unclear.
So
perhaps
the
request
underlying
request
is
to
ensure
that
the
numbers
that
we
see
that
there's
a
purpose
to
them.
So
it's
I
I
do.
A
Mr
bazi
and
I
agree
with
you-
it'll-
be
good
to
see
the
percentage
that's
been
spent
and
what's
left,
and
I
think
going
back
to
what
mr
jackson
was
saying
too,
is
that
when
we're
making
decisions
on
how
much
to
spend
or
how
much
to
approve
that
the
numbers
I,
when
you're
budgeting
it's
it's
hard
to
know
exactly
how
much
you're
going
to
spend
on
something,
because
you
don't
know
ahead
of
time
what
the
materials
are
going
to
be,
but
I
think
because
they
have
a
deeper
knowledge
and
what
goes
into
these
projects
than
myself
that
they
know
kind
of
what
the
costs
are
that
for
them.
A
That
would
be
very
meaningful
information
to
have
that
a
little
more
detail
just
so
that
they
understand
a
little
better.
What
how
those
costs
got
there
and
then
for
those
of
us
who
don't
have
that
knowledge?
Then
we
can,
you
know,
share
that
knowledge
with
each
other,
so
I
think
that's
the
common
thread
between
there's,
the
meaning,
the
meaning
behind
the
numbers.
So-
and
I
end
to
that
point-
I
also
I
agree
as
well.
Okay,
any
other
comments
or
questions
from
the
other
folks.
We
have
two
left
who
haven't
said
anything
no.
A
I
have
a
list
of.
I
have
a
list
too,
mr
mr
hahn
of
some
of
the
projects
that
are
on
the
list
that
I'm
curious
about
how
they're
doing.
A
F
I
had
that
in
my
council
presentation.
I
can't
think
of
it
offhand
it's
on
two
of
our
major
adjacent,
the
two
of
the
major
roadways
by
the
residential
work.
F
Oh,
that
that's
for
our
residential,
the
annual
residential
paving
project.
Oh.
A
Great,
can
we
put
that
up
in
every
contract
so
that
they're
all
of
their
peppered,
I'm
being
a
little
exaggerative,
but
I
do
and
you
like
the
measure
p
signs
because
it
does
show
it
reminds
folks
what
the
measure
p
funds
are
being
used
for
and
shows
progress
so
and
then
also
for
a
couple
of
the
slides
for
the
devel
driving
range,
which
looks
to
your
point.
It
looks
much
much
nicer
now
in
fact,
the
first
picture
of
the
devel
driving
driving
range.
I
wouldn't
even
guess
it
was
a
driving
range.
A
It
didn't
look
like
a
driving
range
so,
but
there
is,
there
is
a
lot
of
more
grass
on
that
project
now,
so
I'm
curious
to
just
you
know
we're
in
the
middle
of
a
drought
now
and
all
that's
happening
kind
of
at
the
same
time.
So
I'm
wondering
you
mentioned
recycled
water
earlier,
but
I'm
wondering
if
there
is
any,
is
there
going
to
be
any
negative
impact
on
the
water
usage,
because
so
much
more
grass
has
been
installed
in
that
area.
A
Okay,
so
there'll
be
minimal
impact
on
the
water
usage
or
water,
okay,
great
and
then
in
similar
vein
for
the
lighting
updates.
The
lighting
looks
great
too,
and
to
your
to
your
earlier
point,
about
having
a
really
bright
feel
to
to
play
on.
Are
those
lights
also
low
energy
light
installations
as
well.
A
Yeah,
okay,
okay,
so
one
of
the
items
on
the
list
was
the
central
library,
and
I
understand
that
the
central
library
is
still
in
the
designing
phase
right,
they're,
still
looking
at
the
different
options
of
what
they
want
to
put
into
it.
But
do
you
know
have
any
updates
on
what
the
central
library
process
is.
Yeah.
K
So
right
now
we're
actually
looking
at
the
option
of
what
type
of
project
delivery.
One
of
the
options
we're
looking
at
is
p3
the
private
private
public
partnership
project
program.
So
that's
something
that
we
actually
hired
a
consultant
to
help
us
navigate
through
that
process,
we're
looking
at
funding.
K
K
The
consultant
actually
will
be
here
in
august
to
deliver
a
kind
of
presentation
to
iob,
so
you
will
get
some
information
on
it
and
I
believe
in
july
they're
going
to
go
to
council
and
there's
going
to
be
a
public
hearing
or
closed
session.
I
can't
remember
which
one
it
is,
but
so
in
july
the
council
will
get
to
hear
it
august.
They
will
be
here
to
present
it
to
the
iob
and
in
september
they
will
go
to
council,
hopefully
get
approval
to
move
on
to
the
next
phase
of
the
project.
A
A
A
M
Absolutely
through
the
chair,
diego
cevallos,
deputy
director
of
park
and
recreation,
I
invite
all
of
you
to
come
out
to
our
grand
opening
of
the
community
gardens
on
the
28th
at
9.
00
a.m.
We're
going
to
do
a
soft
open
irrigation
has
been
completed
as
of
yesterday
and
we're
going
to
start
building
as
early
as
tuesday
saturday
for
the
dog
park.
Ladwp
still
has
a
project
that
is
underway.
That
project
should
be
wrapping
up
towards
the
tail
end
of
the
year.
M
We
are
currently
working
with
a
consultant
on
the
design
work
and
then,
as
soon
as
ladwp
is
complete
with
their
project,
then
we're
going
to
be
moving
into
construction,
which
should
then
take
us
another
year
out.
M
And
power
they.
A
Great,
thank
you.
You're
welcome,
exciting
news.
One
of
the
items
on
the
list
was
also
the
downtown
san
fernando
boulevard.
Refiguration.
Do
you
have
an
update
for
that.
F
Yes,
yes,
madam
chair
board,
members.
F
That
was
also
a
request
of
counsel
that
provided
update
at
the
17th
meeting
and
what
that
is,
is
a
consideration
to
make
downtown
san
fernando
boulevard,
one-way
operations
with
parking
and
to
expand
outdoor
dining
between
magnolia
and
olive,
and
we
are
in
the
process
of
getting
a
a
consultant
on
board.
It
is
a
joint
project
that
we
have
with
the
community
development
department
at
the
17th
meeting
council
directed
staff
to
also
have
the
consultant
consider
complete
closure,
eliminating
cars
and
that's
the
additional
task
so
we'll
get
that
going.
F
H
I
understand
you
probably
have
a
lot
more
questions.
I
just
you
know.
Historical
record
have
been
around
longer
than
I
care
to
admit
and
about
50
plus
years
ago
the
city
of
burbank
closed
san
fernando
between
those
two
areas
and
was
an
absolute
blast.
The
golden
mall.
Yes,
the
infamous
gold
ball.
So
I
I
hope
someone
looks
back
to
history
and
does
it
re
you
know
relive
those.
You
know
mistakes
that
were
made
by
you
know
our
predecessors.
A
A
E
I
listened
carefully
to
the
comments
and
the
input
from
my
colleagues
and
I
struggled
with
the
idea
of
commenting
at
this
point
or
not,
but
I
wanted
to
make
a
a
point
here
and
it's
it's
a
general
observation
for
all
of
us
up
here
on
the
on
the
board.
You
know
we
are
the
oversight
board,
you
know
and
our
task
is
to
provide
that
for
the
funds
that
are
coming
from
measure
p
and
there
was
a
vote
that
allowed
for
the
creation
of
substantial
funds.
E
I
think
none
of
us
want
to
do
that,
but
we,
in
my
opinion,
my
humble
opinion
and
perhaps
is
not
shared
by
the
rest
of
the
board.
But
in
my
humble
opinion
we
are
not
really
providing
enough
of
an
oversight
recommendation
to
counsel.
Perhaps
perhaps
they
feel
it's
enough
and
that's
that's
fine,
but
you
know
to
me
the
the
voters
were
told
look.
These
are
supplemental
funds,
we're
not
going
to
take
away
any
of
the
funds
that
we
did
before.
This
are
supposed
to
supplement
what
we
were
doing,
and
indeed
they
are
supplemental
funds.
E
But
you
know
you
look
at
something
like
the
bell:
a
project
that
brings
the
city
what
a
million
dollars
in
income
this
last
year
that
went
to
the
general
fund.
So
now
we
are
providing
funds
to
do
a
a
20-year
park
plan
from
from
the
measure.
P
funds,
I'm
not
revisiting
what
has
been
approved.
I'm
simply
suggesting
that
at
a
quarterly
review
is
an
appropriate
time
to
ask
ourselves.
E
How
are
we
providing
adequate
oversight,
and
this
may
or
may
not
be
something
that
has
an
answer
and
I'm
not
sure
how
we
obtained
that
answer
or
the
guidance
to
be
more
effective
for
mr
berkman,
and
you
know
for
mr
hahn
or
all
the
staff
that
sits
here
and
helps
us,
but
I
I
personally,
I
feel
a
certain
amount
of
angst
at
us
recognizing
that
I
don't
know
how
to
provide
this
oversight.
Well
enough,
you
know,
if
we
ask
about
the
flooring
question
drill
down
a
little
bit.
Is
that
the
oversight
that
we
need?
E
E
So
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
to
speak
out
loud
and
to
see
if,
if
anyone
else
has
other
ideas,
perhaps
this
board
needs
to
meet
in
a
in
a
slight
retreat
or
something
for
a
few
hours,
with
the
help
of
a
of
a
staff
person
who
will
help
us
understand
better
how
to
work
better,
to
be
more
effective
for
staff
and,
more
specifically,
for
the
public.
The
council
created
this
board
with
a
commitment
that
we
are
providing
oversight
of
major
bucks.
E
E
All
of
us
can
think
about
it,
a
little
more
and
find
a
way
to
make
mr
bergman's
life
and
staff,
and
not
only
mr
perfect,
everyone
a
little
better
and
then
more
effective
as
well.
If,
indeed
we
can
do
that,
perhaps
at
the
end
you
can't
because
we're
meeting
once
a
month
we're
seeing
numbers
at
the
big
picture
and
either
we
agree
or
we
don't
agree
and
then
we
we
move
on.
But
that's
that's
my
observation
of
this
quarter.
My
quarterly
observation,
okay,.
H
Well,
I
I
agree
with
you,
mr
vandenberg,
I
mean
I
looked
at
what
the
council
acted
on
two
days
ago
and
the
staff
report,
which
came
from
financial
services
in
the
paragraph
that's
devoted
to
infrastructure
investment
plan.
I
assume
public
works
had
some
input
to
that
section
of
this
report
and
I
focus
on
near
the
end.
H
You
know
that
was
not
the
case.
There
was
considerable
dissent,
at
least
mr
vanderborg
and
I,
and
that
was
not
presented
to
council.
As
we
said
earlier,
the
meeting
minutes
which
were
revised-
you
know
it's
moot.
The
issue
is
over
and
you
know
for
me
to
sit
up
here
or
at
home
for
two
years.
It
strikes
me
that
this
is
pretty
much
a
waste
of
time.
H
N
Chair
and
members
of
the
board-
I
I
do-
I
want
to
remind
everyone
that
we
with
this
item
agenda
for
today,
really
just
is
a
report
from
the
staff
on
the
status
in
this
third
quarter.
Cip
report.
I
think
we
might
be
going
a
little
off
topic
for
now.
So
if
there,
if
there
are.
N
But
this
is
not
part
of
the
agenda
item.
If,
if
you
have
individual
comments
that
you
want
to
raise
too
to
director
burkman
to
maybe
facilitate
some
of
your
preferences
for
some
of
the
items
that
go
on
the
board,
then
maybe
you
can
communicate
with
him
directly,
but
at
this
point
for
this
item,
this
is
just
on
to
receive
and
file.
This
report.
A
Thank
you,
yeah.
I
think
that
keeping
our
comments
to
how
this
report
may
or
may
not
be
effective
is
important.
Thank
you.
Yes,
mr
mr
brennan.
I
Yeah,
I
don't
necessarily
disagree
with
you,
mr
or
you,
mr
jackson.
However,
I
just
remember,
we
first
started
a
couple
years
back.
How
often
I
would
ask
where
did
you
get
that
number
from
every
meeting?
Where
did
you
get
that
number,
not
you,
sir,
but
your
one
of
your
predecessors
and
all
they
would
say
like
it
was
out
of
thin
air
and
so
working
with
thin
air
projections.
It's
like.
I
Finally,
we
get
down
to
now
where
I
can
say:
okay,
maybe
it's
a
little
bit
too
much
to
ask
for
a
you
know
more
specifics
on
construction
projects,
obviously
my
background
and
I
just
felt
a
little
just
to
kind
of
move
along
to
make
sure
everything's
running
smooth
on
your
end
from
my
perspective
and
but
other
than
that,
just
trying
to
get
numbers
initially.
When
we
first
started,
we
couldn't
get
any
numbers
at
all.
They
were
like
hypothetical,
this
hypothetical
that
and
where'd
you
get
it.
How
would
you
produce
it?
I
J
Aren't
the
the
scopes
of
work
and
the
proposal
packages
and
the
agreements
all
that
it's
a
public
record,
so
we
should
have
access
to
because
you
were
speaking
about
the
flooring
and
the
roofing
and
like
materials,
so
to
look
at
the
specifics,
and
all
of
that
should
be
in
the
contractors
and
the
proposal
packages
and
that
should
be
public
record.
I'm
sure
it
is
isn't
it.
J
I
Visited
with
one
of
the
other
project
managers
on
like
the
roofing
at
the
police
department,
I
was
shocked
so
when
I
asked
about
who's
going
to
overlook
the
project.
Besides
the
project
manager
from
the
city,
I'm
thinking
in
terms
of
which
contractor
is
going
to
be
responsible
for
doing
a
very
complication,
in
other
words,
installation
which
it
is
for
serious
air
conditioning
for
a
building
like
this
or
the
police
department
and
then
to
waterproof
it
in
to
the
building.
So
there's
no
issues,
there's
already
issues
in
the
building.
F
I
wanted
to
at
least
put
it
out
there
that
this
is
a
relatively
very
young
board
and
this
I
it
started
basically
a
little
bit
before
I
I
got
here
and
I've
been
the
liaison
and
and
managed
several
types
of
commissions
and
committees
and
boards,
including
public
works
infrastructure
boards,
and
the
thing
I
would
say
is
we
all.
Obviously
I
speak
for
myself
and
for
the
team
and
all
city
staff
seek
continuous
improvement
and
with
your
input
and
our
analysis,
I
think,
to
board
member
vanderburt's
point.
We
can
find
that
right
balance.
F
So
from
from
staff's
perspective,
we
need
to
move
there's
a
lot
of
stuff.
We
have
to
do
there's
a
tremendous
amount
of
pressure.
Capital
projects
are
not
the
only
thing
that
public
works,
engineers
and
facility
staff
do
there's
a
myriad
of
state
programs,
for
example,
and
regulations
and
thousands
upon
thousands
of
permits
and
there's
a
lot
of
things.
F
There
is
we'll
find
that
right
balance,
but
this
board,
as
I
understand
it,
is
tasked
with
providing
oversight
and
input
of
our
capital
programs
and
our
maintenance
programs
and
a
little
bit
of
traffic
programs
like
like
our
speed.
Hump
policy
and-
and
I
think
we
can
achieve
that
right-
balance
with
you-
know
professional
input
and
proper
protocol.
F
I
have
my
own
boss,
who
has
five
other
bosses,
so
there's
definitely
really
not
micromanaging,
but
I'm
under
my
own
expectations
to
make
sure
everything
is
done
properly,
plans,
specs
and
estimates
of
myself
and
the
team
that
we
put
out
there
are
properly
designed
and
constructed
and
can
be
maintained
properly
in
the
future,
which
is
also
part
of
our
report
to
you.
So
I
definitely
appreciate
all
the
opinions
and
and
seek
to
work
with
you
to
find
that
that
sweet
spot
and
we
will.
N
Okay
and
chair,
if
I
may,
I
I
you
know
there
is
a
list
of
rules
and
responsibilities
in
the
municipal
code
for
the
iob,
and
one
of
them
is
to
receive
quarterly
reports
on
the
status
of
funded
products
and
that's
what
this
item
is.
There
are
other
opportunities
to
provide
advice
and
recommendations
on
priority
or
or
things
of
that
nature.
N
It's
just
my
responsibility
to
let
you
know
when,
in
my
opinion,
I
think
we're
moving
a
little
bit
further
from
just
what's
put
on
the
agenda
and
try
to
keep
us
back
on
on
track.
Yeah.
K
Is
clearly
yes
regarding
the
pd
flooring
project,
maybe
I
could
kind
of
get
dive
into
it,
just
a
little
bit
than
that,
so
there
was
a
condition
assessment
that
was
actually
put
together
by
an
architect,
so
he
identified
all
the
different
type
of
materials
that
to
be
replaced
so
based
on
their
recommendations.
K
A
Thank
you
all
for
your
comments.
I
think
that
moving
forward
that,
as
we
have
each
of
these
items
on
the
agenda,
if
we
find
like
we
had
when
we
were
speaking
about
the
numbers
and
the
budget
numbers
and
how
that
was
those
numbers,
perhaps
weren't
as
meaningful
as
they
could
be.
These
are
opportunities
to
help
identify
where
perhaps
we
are
not
as
informed
or
not
able
to
do
as
much
as
we
can
and
then
try
to
make
that
better.
A
I
think
that's
an
opportunity
there
and
if
there's
something
that
I
agree,
that
there
are
times
it's
frustrating
and
we're
not
being
able
to
perhaps
have
the
conversation
we
want
to,
but
we
can
add
agenda
items.
So
if
please,
if
there's
something
that
you
feel
like,
we
need
to
talk
about.
I've
worked
with
ken
about
agenda
items
and
mr
burkman,
and
we
can
find
a
way
to
get
that
agenda
item
on
there
to
talk
about
it
and
specifically
for
the
items
for
each
like
details
and
getting
public
records.
A
Also,
you
can
email
ahead
of
time
and
ask
these
things.
So
that's
another!
You
could
ask
him
here
too,
but
like
today,
I
emailed
all
the
things
I
asked
today
I
emailed
mr
han
to
let
him
know.
I
was
going
to
ask
questions
so
that
way
he
could
be
ready
with
answers.
So
that's
helpful
too,
and
not
to
say
that
you
shouldn't
ask
them,
but
if
you
want
to
have
a
specific
answer,
give
them
time
to
then
look
it
up
and
have
that
answer
for
you.
A
So
there's
just
some
ideas
of
how
we
can
move
forward.
I'm
not
saying
that
anybody's
opinion
is
is
not
valid.
It's
very
valid,
but
just
I
think
it's
important
too
that
if
we
have
frustrations
to
find
ways
that
specifically
to
make
things
better
too.
So
thank
you
all
for
this.
This
conversation,
it's
an
ongoing
one.
Clearly
we're
going
to
keep
moving
forward
with
it
all
right
so
for
the
third
quarter,
cip
report,
anything
else
on
this
particular
agenda
item.
A
Anyone
wants
to
say
no.
Okay.
Thank
you
all
for
the
thank
you
for
the
presentation.
They
hear
the
discussion
and
we
will
now
move
forward
to
the
speed
hum
policy.
Is
that
mr
han,
again
or.
F
That
will
be
me:
okay,
honorable
chair
board
members,
unfortunately,
traffic
engineering
manager,
edward
hugh,
could
not
be
with
us,
so
I
am
going
to
provide
this
update
so
on
on
march
24th
meeting
with
this
group,
we
presented
the
updated
speed,
hump
policy
for
the
city.
We
heard
your
comments
and
and
noted
them,
and
we
are
providing
a
revised,
updated
policy
for
your
consideration
and
approval
to
move
forward
to
present
to
city
council
for
their
approval
and
incorporation
into
our
policies.
F
F
One
of
the
conversations
that
we
have
was
about
the
street
grades
and
that
was
probably
our
most
significant
change
recommendation,
which
allows
more
streets
in
our
hillside
communities
to
be
eligible
for
the
potential
installation
of
the
speed
humps.
As
we
talked
about
there,
you
don't
want
to
install
them
in
a
grade.
That's
too
steep
for
safety
issues
with
travelers
and
vehicles,
but
the
highlight
of
streets
with
grades
of
eight
percent
or
greater
will
not
qualify
for
installation
of
speed,
humps
or
the
speed
tables,
and
that
was
I
think
it
was
six
percent.
F
If
I
remember
right,
it
might
have
even
been
five,
but
you
could
see
we
have
a
a
a
grade
of
five
to
eight
percent.
This
is
not
a
change.
This
was
in
there
and
you've
seen
it
last
time.
Five
to
eight
percent
can
qualify
the
for
the
speed
tables
and
we
one
of
the
requests
that
you
had
was
to
provide
examples
and
a
couple
of
pages
into
it.
With
the
exhibits.
F
F
Next,
we
are
providing
samples
of
a
speed
cushion
which
you
can
see
is
a
slotted
speed,
hump
that
allows
those
to
be
installed
on
our
our
fire
emergency
response
streets
and
then
a
speed
table
is
provided
a
little
larger,
so
the
the
grade,
the
the.
How
would
I
put
it
the
the
impact
or
the
transition
is
not
as
significant,
so
that
would
be
where
streets
of
higher
grades
would
receive
those
potentially
and
that,
I
believe,
were
the
changes
we
made
based
upon
your
input.
F
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair
question.
Last
time
when
this
was
before
us,
there
was
a
provision
in
which
you
were
saying
that
concrete
streets
could
not
have
speed
humps.
I
didn't
see
that
in
what
was
presented
today,
is
that
still
part
of
your
recommendations
to
council.
H
Okay,
because
the
reason
I
was
going
to
mention
that
I
had
misgivings
about
it,
I
went
along
with
you
folks,
but
you
know
there
are
it's
rare
for
concrete
streets,
but
there
are
some
in
my
neighborhood.
I
mean
sixth
street
between
walnut
and
birmingham
grinnell
between
sixth
street
and
sunset
and
amherst,
between
sixth
street
and
glen
oaks,
and
I
think
that
last
round
was
where
that
tragic
accident
occurred.
F
And
through
the
chair,
the
the
issue
with
the
concrete
streets
putting
asphalt
on
top
of
the
concrete
is
a
binding
issue,
so
we're
worried
about
the
damage
and
not
not
sitting
properly
and
binding
and
bonding
properly
the
concrete,
the
solution
that
we
are
doing
with
concrete
streets.
If
we're
requested
is
kind
of
a
pilot
program,
there's
they're
rubber
speed,
humps,
so
they're
kind
of
pre-fad,
then
we
can
basically
bolt
them
in
there.
So
we're
going
to
try
that
and
see
how
that
works.
H
All
right
I
mean
the
the
street
I
mentioned
in
los
angeles
is
level
it's
not
there's
no
grade,
which
is
similar
to
the
long
stretch
of
sixth
street,
which
I
don't
know
if
the
people
in
that
area
want
speed,
humps
or
speed,
bumps
or
speed
anything.
H
J
I
have
a
quick
comment.
Thank
you
very
much.
My
the
last
time
we
met.
I
specifically
asked
for
the
picture
of
the
or
the
example
or
the
specs
for
the
the
cushion,
and
here
it
is.
I
appreciate
it
very
much
and
it's
just
nice
to
have
a
visual
because
the
term
cushion
so
I
I
thank
you
very
much
for
that
for
the
photos
and
the
the
specs.
Thank
you.
E
A
Yes
same,
I
have
a
couple
questions
so
for
the
we
had
talked
about
this,
how
steep
the
roads
were
in
the
last
meeting
and
what
that
limit
was
so
for
the
roads
that
are
more
are
more
than
eight
percent
grade
and
they
have
issues
with
speeding
or
they're
interested
in
slowing
traffic
down.
What
are
the
alternatives
to
speed
humps
when
they're
too
steep
to
be
able
to
go
down.
F
Well,
it
depends
on
the
roadway
traffic
engineers
work
with
police
department
to
take
a
look
at
areas
that
are
requesting
assistance
to
mitigate
speeding
vehicles
and
in
this
case,
if
speed,
humps,
weren't
applicable
or
there
wasn't
support
to
install
them,
then
there
are
other
means
and
methods
of
maybe
striping
or
signing
or,
of
course,
enforcement
actions,
and
we
work
on
that
actually
frequently
without
the
public.
Knowing
we
just
know
and
work
with
pd
to
do
so,.
A
Okay,
so
if
if
their
grade
is
too
steep,
they
still
have
other
alternatives,
they
don't
if
speed
dumps,
aren't
going
to
be
working
for
their
area.
So
that's
good
to
know,
and
then
we'd
also
talked
about
at
the
last
meeting.
A
F
Well,
it's
again
under
the
traffic
engineer's
purview
to
take
a
look
at
it
and
see
if
it
makes
sense
when
we
talked
about
it
last
time.
I
think
what
I
said
was
typically
speed,
bumps
which
speed
bumps
are
the
small
ones
that
we
see
in
parking
lots,
for
example,
and
a
lot
of
times
they
want
to
put
those
in
front
of
stop
signs.
Stop
signs
on
private
property
are
not
legally
enforceable,
so
they
put
it's
private
property.
F
It's
not
public
standards,
for
example,
so
they
tend
to
put
those
sometimes
in
front
of
stop
signs
and
private
properties.
Excuse
me,
and
there
are
examples
I
think
we
put
one
in
when
the
starlight
estates
issues
were
happening
during
covert
when
it
just
started
at
the
base
of.
F
Is
it
bel
air?
There
is
a
stop
speed,
hum
pretty
close
to
a
stop
sign,
as
the
I
think.
It's
on
both
sides
coming
down
the
hill,
but
just
before
you
go
so
in
essence,
with
coordination
with
police
and
traffic
engineers.
Looking
at
there
are
specific
situations
where
we
could
put
a
speed,
hump
kind
of
closer
to
a
stop
sign,
but
we
definitely
don't
want
to
have
a
a
standard
of
heavy
braking
action,
entering
a
stop
sign
and
a
bump
which
can
cause
drivers
to
lose
control.
Potentially.
A
Right
yeah,
I
notice
that
they're
they're
set
back
enough
so
that
you
have
plenty
of
time
before
you
go
over
the
hump
to
get
to
the
stop
sign.
But
it's
close
enough
that
you
can't
really
get
much
more
speed
up
or
it
would
make
if
you're,
already
slowing
down
by
the
time
you
get
over
the
hump
to
get
to
the
stop.
F
Right,
probably
specifically,
I
could
say
those
streets
are
are
typically
the
25
miles
an
hour,
and
we
do
need
to
give
time
for
people
to
traverse
the
speed
hump
and
time
to
react
to
stop
signs
right.
A
A
Okay,
great
thank
you,
and
my
last
question
is
that
just
recently
someone
had
asked
me
about
getting
speed
hump,
so
I
was
going
to
refer
to
the
website
about
how
to
process
to
do
that.
But
right
now
there's
I
didn't
couldn't
find
anything
on
the
website,
so
either
it's
hard
to
find
or
it's
been
taken
down
because
it's
in
process-
and
my
question
is
once
we
approve
this:
when
will
this
be
available
for
folks
to
then
be
able
to
apply
for
their
speed
homes.
F
F
Absolutely
no,
the
there's
an
existing
policy
and
we
have
plenty
of
requests
in
the
queue
for
the
traffic
engineers
to
take
a
look
at,
and
they
can
continue
to
request
them.
Obviously,
the
modifications
for
folks
that
may
be
on
steeper
streets
or
on
concrete
streets
or
on
emergency
route
streets.
They
should
wait
and
they
can
talk
to
our
engineering
division
folks
to
see
if
their
street
is
one
of
those
streets
and
they
should
wait
for
this
new
policy.
A
H
Just
one
more
comment
about
speed.
Ups
near
stop
signs
I
mean
in
my
neighborhood.
You
folks
have
been
very
active
and
you've
put
up,
probably
a
dozen
new
stop
signs
over
the
last
few
years.
I
think
that's
great,
but
possibly
an
unintended
result
of
that
is
running.
Those
stop
signs
is
epidemic,
and
so
anything
that
you
folks
can
do
to
make
things
safer.
I
mean
the
police
come
out
periodically.
H
H
F
If
I,
if
I
may,
madam
chair
and
and
with
the
city
attorney
next
to
me,
just
very
briefly,
it
is
a
good
point
that
all
stop
signs
have
to
go
through
a
warrant
analysis
and
there
are
specific
about
10
or
12
conditions,
not
all
of
them,
but
one
or
two
that
need
to
be
met
to
properly
install
a
stop
sign
and
if
a
stop
sign
is
not
warranted,
but
it's
installed.
F
Those
are
the
types
of
issues
that
that
happen
because
in
as
drivers
we
we
know
believe
it
or
not,
because
it's
the
same
standards
everywhere.
It
should
be.
You
know
when
you're
not
supposed
to
stop
or
you
come
up
to
an
intersection.
I
should
be
stopping
here.
So
that's
that's
the
feeling
people
say
I
I
don't
just
stop
sign,
I'm
just
gonna
go!
So
it's
it's
something
that
we're
very
aware
of
and
appreciate
that
we
we
work
with
pd
and
the
residents
as
they
reported
to
try
and
curtail
that.
E
Quick
question
do
measure
p
funds
play
as
a
part
in
pay
for
the
stop
signs
that
have
been
installed
because
they're
incredibly
beneficial,
incredibly
visible.
It's
like
you
know,
they're
everywhere.
I
see
them
in
the
rancho.
I
mean
I
walk
a
lot
so
and
I
see
them
in
your
neighborhood
as
well.
In
the
hill.
F
So
this
through
the
chair
this,
this
can
be
our
last
non-speed
hunt
policy
question
if
we're
getting
off
topic,
but
those
are
general
fund,
general.
A
F
F
The
good
news
about
live
meetings
that
I
concurred
and
or
got
confirmation
from
the
city
attorney's
office
is
that
now
that
we
are
together,
we
can
take
a
group
vote
and
basically
say
well,
not
not
leading
the
witnesses,
but
all
approve,
say
I
I
and
all
who
do
not
say,
nay
or
no,
and
we
can
take
that
tally.
That
way.
Oh.
H
A
F
A
All
right,
we
have
two
more
items.
These
ones,
I
don't
think
will
be
quite
as
well.
I
should
say
you
never
know
what
this
group
so
number
three.
Let's
see
discussion
for
consideration
of
assigning
a
liaison
from
the
iob
to
the
transportation
commission.
We
had
discussed
this
at
the
last
meeting
with
the
co-meeting
with
the
transportation
commission
and
it
was
a
it
was
a
a
popular
idea.
So
would
anyone
like
to
start
the
discussion
about
choosing
a
liaison
or
do
we
have
to
discuss
like
the
topic
of
it?
F
In
general,
madam
chair,
I
could
help
with
an
introduction,
okay,
great,
that
last
meeting
the
joint
meeting
with
the
transportation
committee
committee.
Commission.
Sorry,
both
bodies
were
wanting
to
consider
having
an
individual
liaison
to
each
other's
meetings,
and
that
is
how
this
got
on
the
agenda.
A
A
A
We
say:
do
you
make
a
motion
to
say
we'd
like
to
have
a
liaison.
N
D
N
As
the
liaison
you're
going
we're
basically
going
over
to
the
transportation
commission
and
observing
taking
notes
and
an
alternative
that
I
thought
of,
is
you
know
instead
of
having
that
as
a
formal
position,
any
one
of
the
members
could
technically
do
that
as
well,
and
then,
if
there
is
an
issue
that
you
would
like
to
discuss
amongst
yourselves
as
part
of
the
iob,
then
we
could
generalize
that
for
the
future
as
well.
So
that's
it.
That
is
an
alternative.
A
I
personally
like
the
idea
of
having
a
formal
liaison.
I
think
it's
I
think
it's
nice
to
know
this
is
the
person
who
was
going
to
go
each
meeting,
but
if,
if
there's
nobody
who's
willing
to
do
that,
we
could
take
turns
or
we
could
I'll
make
it
a
little
informal
anyone
does
anyone
want
to
be
the
liaison
to
the
other.
Commission
has
a
lot
of
time
on
their
hands
and
wants
to
go
in
another
commission
meeting.
A
Is
anybody
okay,
because
we
could
rotate
through
the
seven
of
us
and
through
the
months
and
then
just
negotiate?
If
we
can't
do
it
that
month
and
switch
around
okay,
do
you
want
to
go
down
just
alphabetically
and
start
with
you,
mr
obazi
and
you'll,
be.
D
A
B
N
And
just
for
clarification
for
the
chair
since
yeah,
it
sounds
like
we're
kind
of
doing
a
formal
action
to
a
point,
a
liaison,
but
that
role
is
gonna
rotate.
I
think
maybe
the
direction
would
be
to
establish
what
that
protocol
is,
and
then
that
way
you
won't
have
to
talk
amongst
yourself
to
informally
designate
who
the
next
person
is
going
to
be,
because
then
that
has
to
be
agenda.
So
so
for
logistical
purposes.
N
Maybe
maybe
it
seems
like
what
you're
saying
is
to
have
iob
staff,
compile
the
list
and
then
they'll
just
contact
the
next
board
member
when
it's
their
month,
as
opposed
to
talking
amongst
yourselves
and
figuring
out
who
that
person
is
for
that
day
and
also
who
the
alternative
is
that
person
can't
make
it.
A
B
B
F
They
are
the
third
monday
at
five
five.
D
A
And
they're
in
the
they're
in
the
community
services
building,
I
think
right,
I'm
not.
B
N
Yeah
yeah,
maybe
we
could
have
our
secretary,
establish
the
list
based
on
upon
alphabetical
order
and
then
for
the
first
person
clarify
those
details
as
to
what
date
and
where
it's
going
to
be
so
they
can
figure
out
availability.
B
Yeah,
I
could,
I
could,
even
maybe,
on
the
first
of
every
month,
just
send
out
a
reminder.
Saying
hey.
You
know
this
is
when
the
next
traffic
commission
meeting
is.
These
are
the
next
people
that
are
in
line
send
out
the
details,
just
so
that
you
have
it
first
thing
at
the
first
of
the
month
or
the
first
week
of
the
month,
just
to
be
prepared.
E
B
F
Madam
chair,
just
for
our
city
attorney
to
to
hear
this
just
to
set
the
table
of
of
what
can
be
done
going
forward
and
the
expectations
of
the
folks
attending
the
meeting.
It
is
a
a
report
back
of
items
that
are
of
interest
and,
I
would
add,
within
the
purview
and
roles
and
responsibilities
of
the
infrastructure
oversight
board,
and
it
can't
be
discussed,
of
course,
but
it's
the
opportunity
for
the
board
to
say
hey
I'd
like
to
put
that
on
a
future
agenda
for
discussion.
F
So
I
just
wanted
to
let
folks
know
what
the
expectations
are.
Okay,.
A
Great
and
since
it's
a
public
meeting
and
if
there's
a
report
out
of
the
public
meeting,
it
wouldn't
be
any
information,
that's
new
or
agenda.
So
if
someone
wanted
to
make
an
announcement
that
was
made
from
that
meeting,
does
it
have
to
be
an
agenda
or
like
say,
for
example,
liaison
went
to
the
meeting
and
the
transportation
commission
discussed
publicly
one
of
the
projects
in
the
city
and
then
the
liaison
said
I
they
discussed
the
project
in
the
city,
and
this
is
what
they
said.
F
Absolutely
and
that's
the
purpose
of
the
liaison
to
report
back
what
they
heard,
that
is
of
interest
to
the
board
members
perfect.
A
F
N
Just
say,
madam
chair:
we
we
could
do
it
one
of
several
ways.
We
could
keep
it
as
part
of
the
announcements
and
then
we
keep
that
as
existing
item
c
and,
however
iteration
it
comes
next
agendas
or
you
can
formally
put
in
a
placeholder
that
says
report
from
cc
liaison
or,
however,
you
want
to
do
it,
but
it's
just
a
matter
of
preference.
D
F
A
A
Yeah
yeah
and
we
had
it's
on
the
agenda
for
either
as
annual
or
semi-annual
joint
meeting,
I
feel
like
annual
is
sufficient,
but
if
you
folks
feel
like
semi-annual
would
be
better
or
what
do
you
think?
Yes,
mr
van
porter,.
E
F
Madam
chair
and
board
members,
may
I
suggest
in
this
consideration,
if
you
move
forward
with
this,
and
there
is
an
annual
meeting
or
or
semi-annual
meeting
that
you
do
not
schedule
it
for
your
your
heavy
lift
months.
As
I
like
to
say
of
february
march
and
april,
where
we
prepare
the
capital
program
together,.
A
Yep,
I
can
understand
that
request.
So
would
there
be
a
month
that
would
be
the
most
preferable
time?
That
would
be
the
least
heavy
lifting
for
both
of
our
commissions.
Is
there
a
thought
of
when
that
might
be
from
your
perspective?
A
So
I
think
for
our
perspective,
and
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
the
group,
but
it
seems
to
for
me
that,
just
as
long
as
we
get
a
regular
meeting,
it
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
be
a
particular
time,
but
just
having
that
regular
touch
in
so
when
you
would,
you
recommend
considering
the
schedule
of
the
city.
F
I'll
ask
through
our
city
attorney:
would
it
be
appropriate
for
the
chairs
of
both
bodies
to
to
meet
and
discuss
that
and
mutually
come
back
to
their
board
and
commission,
with
a
couple
of
months
of
recom,
of
requests
to
potential
months
to
meet.
N
D
A
Every
leap
year
so
does
the
to
support.
Is
the
board
okay,
with
me
meeting
with
the
with
with
the
chair
of
the
transportation
and
coming
up
the
date
with
the
next
at
the
next
meeting?
Okay,
great,
yes,
and
let's
do
that
great?
Thank
you.
I'm
excited
I
like
the
idea
of
having
that
regularly
scheduled
so
that
we
can
check
in
and
we
know
and
if
there's
something
that
comes
up,
that
we
want
to
speak
with
them
about,
we
can
save
it
for
that
meeting
and
have
it
ready
to
go.
A
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
think
I
will
make
this
take
this
opportunity
to
see
if
there's
a
way
and
I'm
not
sure
I
have
the
right
wording,
but
have
an
opportunity
for
this
board
to
have
a
whether
it's
an
informal,
formal
meeting
that
is
one
that's
at
agendas,
etc.
That
would
allow
us
to
work
with
staff
and
perhaps
not
sure
what
the
right
word
is
somebody
who
can
facilitate
a
facilitator
for
the
meeting,
as
mr
burkman
indicated,
we're
a
new
board
and
in
that
respect,
maybe
it'll
give
us
an
opportunity
to
not
discuss
specific
projects.
E
You
know
we
can
get
out
of
the
the
weeds
and
or
get
get
out
of
the
specifics,
but
rather
think
about
how
we
can
better
advise
the
council
with
respect
to
oversight
and
I'm
very
concerned
with
that,
because
that
is
the
reason
we're
here.
E
We
didn't
get
created
to
talk
about
speed
bumps,
although
it
is
part
of
our
task,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
I
would
like
to
see
us
if
we
can
work
staff
can
work,
maybe
with
you
or
anybody
else,
to
create
an
item
for
a
future
agenda
where
we
can
decide
how
to
improve
our
ability
to
be
better
at
oversight.
Maybe
I'm
you
know
this
is
just
me,
so
maybe
I'm
barking
up
at
the
wrong
tree
here.
E
But
if,
if
there's
a
consensus
from
the
from
the
board,
we
can
spend
a
separate
meeting
or
a
specific
meeting
at
the
end
of
the
day.
Not
every
meeting
is
heavy
lifting
meetings,
so
maybe
in
september,
or
in
august
or
october,
whenever
things
are
less
crowded,
we
can
do
that
again.
It
can
be
a
public
meeting.
It
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
be
anything
you
know
other
than
that
and
then
maybe
at
that
time
we
can
talk
about
the
wording
of
the
recommendations
to
receive
and
file
because
the
words
receive
and
file.
E
I
think
our
city
attorney
made
it
very
clear
limit
us
as
to
what
we
can
do
with
anything
that
is
presented
here.
So
maybe
it
needs
to
something
that
can
also
be
considered
to
say
you
know,
comment
receive
on
file
or
anything
like
that.
If
that
will
help
us,
you
know
again,
this
may
be
a
separate
item,
but
I
think
changing
that
wording
may
make
it
a
little
easier
for
this
board
to
express
opinions
that
are
a
little
less
than
just
simply
receive
the
information,
ask
questions
and
filing.
A
Yeah
I
I
do.
I
do
get
the
sense,
since
this
topic
has
come
up
number
of
times
that
that
we
do
want
to
discuss
this.
So
I
agree.
I
think
it
would
be
good
to
find
a
way
to
put
this
formally
on
the
agenda
somehow
on
a
on
a
not
busy
or
not
heavy
lifting
month
to
dedicate
some
time
to
going
through
this.
I
don't
know
what
came
to
mind
is
goal
setting
or
or
that
doesn't
that
sounds
not
right
either
just,
but
that
workshop
workshopping
or
improvements
improvement
workshop.
F
A
F
This
is
taking
a
look
at
the
ordinance
that
created
this
body
and
delving
into
exactly
what
level
of
responsibilities
and
input
this
board
is
supposed
to
have,
and
we
just
have
to
figure
out
who
would
facilitate
that
meeting
and
staff
can
consider
that
the
time
frame
sounds
like
a
proper
time
frame
in
the
fall
and
that's
something
we
could
shoot
for.
J
A
Okay,
thank
you
for
suggesting
that
I
will
add
that,
to
the
end,
any
other
agenda
items
I
have
one
well,
I
don't
know
if
it's
a
gender
item,
but
I
did
I
did
email,
mr
berkman
and
mr
han
earlier
about
an
update
for
the
burbank
bridge
and
I
know
that's
not
exactly
our
purview
and
its
transportation.
However,
I
keep
getting
asked
about
it,
so
we
don't
need.
A
I
don't
think
we
need
a
lengthy
one,
but
it
would
be
nice
just
to
have
it
on
the
agenda,
for
you
know,
10
minutes
to
be
able
to
get
an
update
on
the
burbank
bridge,
the
biking
lanes,
the
travel
lanes.
What's
going
on
with
that,
so
that
we
can
ask
it
and
the
community
has
an
opportunity
to
ask
about
it
too,
is
that
would
ever
anyone
be
opposed
to
adding
that
on
the
agenda?
F
Madam
chairman,
I
throw
something
out
there
for
the
board's
consideration.
Mr
krisky
is
the
project
manager
and
has
been
providing
many
updates
for
individual
residents
that
have
asked
as
well
as
council,
so
would
a
summary
email
from
to
the
entire
board.
Suffice
to
start
and
and
see.
If
we
need
a
presentation
that
at
least
can
get
the
same
information
in
all
of
your
hands.
A
You,
okay,
that's
all
I've
got
wonderful
meeting.
Thank
you
and
be.
Oh,
let's
see
the
pending
agenda
items
right,
mention
that
in
june
we
have
parks
and
recreation
project
update
which
is
going
to
be
exciting
and
discussion
and
determination
of
location
of
future
in-person
iob
you
meet.
What's
this.
F
Yes,
madam
chair
board
members,
without
getting
into
a
discussion
about
it.
I
wanted
to
put
this
on
the
agenda
to
see
if
you
thought
this
was
the
right
place
for
our
meetings
or
I
have
another
idea
in
mind
that
might
be
better
and
more
efficient
for
us.
So
I'd
like
to
talk
about
it.
E
B
As
of
now,
we're
only
doing
public
comment
via
zoom,
but
we're
not
we're
not
right.
E
Thank
you,
okay.
Okay,
thank
you
just
any
way
that
I
could
participate
if
there
is
a
way
and
if
not,
at
the
very
least,
listen
in
and
and
yell
at
the
television
or.
A
F
Madam
chair,
I'm
sorry
I
just
had
one
note
for
future
potential.
We
currently
don't
have
any
items
pending
for
july.
So
next
meeting
there
is
a
potential
of
not
having
a
july
meeting.
So
maybe
we
get
a
vacation,
maybe
not,
but
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know,
okay,
that
was
it.
Thank
you.
Okay.
Thank.
D
H
There
really
isn't
anything
to
lead.
I
mean
I
had
the
list
of
the
children
from
the
elementary
school,
but
my
ability
in
reading
spanish
surnames
is
very
limited
and-
and
I
don't
want
to
do
a
disservice-
I
just
think
you
know
we
should
acknowledge
that
that
we've
had
two
tragedies
in
10.