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Burbank Infrastructure Oversight Board Meeting - September 22, 2022
A
A
C
B
E
Yes,
Madam
chair
board
members.
If
I
may
introduce
a
couple
of
new
faces
that
you
see
today,
as
our
recording
secretary
Mr
Arvin
set,
the
guyan
is
stepping
up
for
us.
As
you
know,
Karina
Rosales
has
moved
on
to
I,
don't
think
it's
better
I'm
from
public
works,
but
some
brighter
pastures
for
herself,
with
bwp
and
next
to
Arvin
is.
F
Our
senior
clerk
in
public
work,
Sharina
bilzbach,
who
is
kind
of
minding
the
side
and
plan
B.
If
we,
if
we
do
need
in
the
future.
So
thank
you
both
for
helping
out.
B
E
Madam,
chair
I,
believe
Ms
Coronado
was
not
able
to
attend
their
meeting
this
past
month
and
she
I
remember
she
sent
her
apologies
in
regards
to
the
board.
Thank.
G
Before
we
take
a
vote
on
it,
we've
had
some
transition
on
who
does
the
minutes,
and
this
was
an
issue,
at
least
for
me
at
the
very
beginning.
Three
years
ago
and
I
I
have
difficulties
in
the
format
in
which
these
meeting
minutes
are
constructed,
they're
very
cursory.
B
H
G
F
I
Of
the
board,
just
for
clarification
generally,
acceptance
of
minutes
is
just
a
vote
to
say:
hey.
These
are
official
minutes
that
we're
willing
to
accept
as
minutes
of
the
board,
you
don't
necessarily
have
to
have
personal
knowledge,
it's
more
of
a
ministerial
matter.
I
So
if
you
want
to
vote
on
it
today,
that's
fine
as
well
you're.
Just
basically
saying
these
are
minutes
acceptable
to
the
board.
If
you
do,
you
want
to
push
it
to
the
next
meeting.
That
is
fine
as
well
and
just
want
to
make
a
quick
point
about
this.
I
These
minutes,
the
last
meeting
were
really
updates
and
reports,
and
so
it's
pretty
difficult
to
summarize
a
detailed
discussion
of
an
updated,
a
report,
and
so
sometimes
you
are
going
to
have
minutes
that
are
going
to
be
pretty
sparse,
just
because
it
just
reflects
that
a
report
was
given.
E
Thank
you,
Mr
City
attorney,
Madam,
chair
and
board
members.
We
fully
understand
the
conversations
that
have
occurred
in
the
past.
This
was
a
very
specific
contemplation
decision
by
staff
to
do
the
minutes
this
way
and
the
reason
is
because
minutes
are
not
transcriptions
or
to
serve
as
quoting
individual
thoughts
of
commission
or
board
members
or
even
council
members
we're
looking
for
consistency
across
all
committees
and
commissions
and
Boards
in
the
cities
and
well.
We
certainly
appreciate
the
fact
that
there
is
less
detail.
E
Mr
City
attorney
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
the
purpose
of
the
minutes
is
to
provide
an
overall
summary
of
the
conversations
the
the
topic
discussed
and,
most
importantly,
document
the
motions
and
the
actions
of
the
body
that
is
having
the
meeting
so
this
my
question,
maybe
is
we
can
talk
about
this
a
little
bit
more,
but
I
think
I'd
like
to
point
out,
especially
for
the
infrastructure
oversight
board.
This
is
a
live
and
recorded
meeting.
E
So
if
anyone
wants
to
come
back,
look
at
the
minutes
and
delve
into
specifically
what
specific
board
members
said
or
what
discussions
were
they
can
they
can
do
that?
It's
a
permanent
record,
so
that's
all
the
more
reason
why
a
summary
for
this
specific
body
should
be
similar
to
all
the
other
bodies
in
in
the
city.
So
I
appreciate
your
time
and
letting
me
detail
that,
for
you.
I
And
I
do
concur
with
the
director's
comments
and
and
agree
that
minutes
are
really
to
take
a
note
of
the
action
taken
and
these
would
be
legally
adequate.
G
You've
told
us
that
the
council
learns
of
what
we
do
at
these
meetings
by
means
of
the
meeting
minutes
and
if
the
meeting
minutes
are
sketchy
or
very
incomplete
to
capture
the
full
issues
that
were
discussed
at
this
by
this
board,
then
you
know
really
serious,
no
functions
for
us
to
sit
up
here
and
I've,
been
on
City
commissions
for
18
years
and
School
Board
oversight
commissions
for
another
eight
years
and
most
of
those
meetings
most
of
those
groups,
in
fact
I
think
all
of
them
had
a
more
detailed
meeting.
G
Minutes.
I
don't
know.
Is
this
an
action
the
council
has
taken
to
abbreviate
the
record.
The
public
record
I
mean
for
the
council
to
find
out
the
details
and
go
to
you
know
the
video.
You
know
they
have
a
of
every
week,
a
very
thick
volume
of
information
that
they
have
to
plow
through
and
I.
Think
it's
unreasonable
to
think
that
there
will
then
delve
into
the
video
record
of
what
we
did
or
didn't
say
on
a
particular
issue.
So
I
respectfully
disagree
so
I
guess
I.
E
I'll
leave
through
the
chair
the
one
thought
that
perhaps
the
board
members
would
like
to
review
other
boards
and
commissions
minutes
that
are
posted
and
we
could
take
it
from
there.
H
It
sounds
like
a
great
idea:
may
I
just
mention
by
the
way
that
I
went
through
the
process
of
looking
for
hour
minutes
and
the
few
of
our
meetings
in
preparation
for
the
prior
meeting,
because
I
was
out
of
town
I
didn't
have
my
folder
I
left
it
at
home
and
there
were
a
couple
of
agendas
that
are
missing
and
they're.
H
Also,
there
was
a
meeting
in
which
we
we
are
combined
with
celebrations
for
some
event
and
we
were
lost
somewhere
in
seven
hours
of
so
someone
is
known
is
not
necessarily
keeping
track
of
our
televised,
granica's,
summary
or
televised
meetings.
So
there
was,
there
was
an
error
there,
and
perhaps
it
was
just
a
simple
error
but
good
to
know
that
someone
looks
at
them.
I
did
and
there
was
a
little
blunder
there.
E
Sure
you
can
feel
free
to
to
contact
me
with
those
specific
dates
that
you
saw
and
we
can
make
sure
where
they
I
guess.
I
could
ask
over
this
forum,
were
they
recent
or
were
they
older.
H
We
were
talking
about
the
library
I
anticipated
reviewing
what
I
was
looking
for
and
actually
I
reached
out
to
Mr
Han
him.
He
sent
me
an
email.
I
was
looking
for
our
unfunded
list
of
unfunded
projects
and
I
thought.
Oh
we've
discussed
this
a
couple
of
times
so
I
kept
looking
and
then
in
that
process,
I
found
again
an
agenda
missing
and
then
another
one
where
the
meeting
that
I
thought
would
refer
to
these
things.
We
were
part
of
an
eight-hour
presentation
of
City
events.
E
B
You
and
the
follow-up
the
thought
Mr
Jackson
had
a
minute
ago,
is
that
while
there
is
a
legal
requirement
for
what's
on
the
minutes,
I
think
that
he
brought
up
a
good
point
of
who
are
the
minutes
for
who
is
going
to
who
are
going
to
read
them
in
it
and
minutes
and
who,
who
needs
to
know
the
information
right
and
but
my
understanding
is.
Is
that
there's
two
groups
of
folks
who
are
going
to
basically
read
these
minutes?
Well,
maybe
three,
the
public,
the
council
and
then
ourselves
for
reference.
Okay.
B
So
for
me
just
personally
I
look
at
this
and
if
I
were
six
months
out
and
I
went
back
to
these
minutes
to
check
I,
wouldn't
know
what
I
mean
I
could
see
what
the
presentation
was
on,
but
I
wouldn't
know
it
was
discussed
and
I
just
watched.
The
video,
so
I
can
compare.
Actually
in
my
mind
to
these
two
and
I
remember
in
previous
minutes.
B
What
some
of
the
things
that
were
included
were
just
the
questions
that
we
asked
and
the
concerns
that
we
had
as
as
board
members
and
so
I
think
that's
worthy
of
having
in
there
to
just
show
Council
and
the
public
and
ourselves.
What
was
important
for
us
I
mean
maybe
not
a
full
dialogue,
but
just
like
a
bullet
point
like
this
is
a
bullet
point
of
what
our
concerns
were
would
be
adequate
I
think
this
is
because
the
the
presentation
material
I
mean
as
a
community
member
or
as
a
board
member
yeah.
B
That's
important
yes
and
I
also
would
really
want
to
know
what
was
discussed
like
what.
What
which
of
these
bullet
points
were
important.
So
I
was
thinking
of
who's
going
to
read
it
and
I
wanted
to
ask
Mr
Berkman.
Is
it?
Would
it
be
appropriate
to
even
ask
Council
what
would
they
like
to
see
coming
out
of
our
notes
for
their
packet
so
that
they
know
what
we
talked
about?
Would
that
be
appropriate
to
ask.
E
No
Madam
chair,
they
are
through
the
city
manager,
telling
staff
how
to
do
the
minutes.
So
that's
why
I
think
it's
a
good
idea
to
take
a
look
at
all
the
other
commissions
and
boards
and
and
see
how
they
do
them.
They
they're
not
totally
consistent
and
I.
Think
we
tried
to
hit
a
middle
ground
where
we
provide
summary
but
detail.
E
Some
some
are
just
here's
the
motion
and
here's
what
they
did:
yeah
others,
the
sustainable
Burbank
commission,
for
example,
which
is
not
recorded
I,
tend
to
work
with
staff
to
provide
a
bit
more
detail
because
there's
no
real
record
of
it,
but
you
guys
here
it's
it's
like
Council,
where
it's
all
in
the
public
record
in
perpetuity,
so
I
understand
where
you
are
coming
from,
and
I
I
think
there
would
be
a
a
good
middle
ground
that
we
could
work
with
and,
of
course,
in
the
end,
when
you
review
the
minutes,
if
there's
something
specifically,
you
want
to
have
noted.
B
B
All
right
after
that,
exciting
discussion
about
the
minutes,
we're
moving
on
to
reports
to
board.
Oh
the
exciting
election
of
chair
and
vice
chair
all
right.
So
I
was
not
here
last
month
when
that
was
originally
scheduled
to
be
on
our
agenda,
and
it
was
suggested
that
that
be
pushed
to
this
month.
But
now
we
have
it
for
for
board
members.
So
I
open
up
to
my
colleagues
to
discuss
whether
to
continue
with
that
agenda
item.
If
we
do
how
so
and
any
thoughts.
H
C
I
would
think
we
should
table
this.
Also
for
the
next
meeting
till
we
have
more
of
our
board
members
here:
okay,.
G
B
B
So
I
think
in
for
me
and
respecting
the
three
who
are
not
here
to
make
sure
that
their
voices
are
heard
one
way
or
the
other
I
would
I
would
like
to
also
move
it
to
next
month.
If
we
can
is
that,
okay.
I
I
think
because
this
is
a
more
of
a
formal
event
for
the
election,
we
should
probably
move
to
continue
this
to
the
next
available
meeting.
Okay,.
B
A
B
E
Madam,
chair
I
will
thank
you
very
much
so
chair
and
board
members.
As
you
know,
subsequent
to
our
August
25th
meeting,
where
we
provide
an
update
to
the
iob
on
the
Burbank
Central
Library
and
Civic
Center
project
staff
provided
an
update
to
Council
on
the
project
on
September
13th,
which
also
included
details
on
the
proposed
use
of
fund
34
or
measure
P
for
the
project.
E
At
the
council
meeting
staff
recommended
Council
approved
funding,
reserving
10
million
dollars
of
measure
P's
current
unallocated
fund
balance
of
approximately
15
million
dollars
to
serve
as
matching
funds
for
a
grant
application.
The
city
submitted
to
acquire
funding
from
the
California
State
Library
Building
forward
infrastructure
program.
Council
approved
the
recommended
action.
This
grant
requires
the
city
to
make
a
one-to-one
match.
Therefore,
the
city
council's
documented
action
of
reserving
the
10
million
dollars
for
the
project
makes
for
a
stronger
application
in
this
very
competitive
process.
E
Since
creating
a
reserve
account
is
not
an
actual
expenditure,
staff
would
need
to
return
to
council
to
get
authorization
authorization
to
expend
the
funds
for
this
purpose.
Additionally
the
council
may
choose
to
release
funds
from
the
Reserve
at
any
time.
For
any
purpose
that
falls
within
the
approved
uses
of
fund
534.
E
as
part
of
the
motion
approving
the
action
to
set
aside
the
10
million
dollars
in
the
reserve.
Account
Council,
also
directed
staff,
to
bring
this
item
back
to
the
iob
to
provide
the
opportunity
for
you
to
make
a
formal
recommendation
regarding
use
of
the
funds
in
this
manner
that
they
approved
so
we're
here
tonight
to
respectfully
request
the
iob
recommend.
The
city
council
establish
the
10
million
Reserve
account
for
the
Burbank
Central
Library
and
Civic
Center
project
from
fund
534.
E
G
K
K
Ultimately,
if
we
were
awarded
the
grant,
then
we
would
take
there
would
be
a
council
acceptance
of
the
Grant,
and
as
part
of
that,
we
would
have
to
clearly
state
that
we
have
the
matching
dollars
up
until
we
officially
receive
the
grant.
We
are
not
required
to
prove
to
demonstrate
that,
but
of
course
it
makes
a
stronger
case
if
Council
has
taken.
G
The
action
that
they
took
last
week,
okay,
thank
you.
Why
I
ask
that
is
similar
to
the
preceding
item
where
we
decided,
we
didn't
feel
that
we
should
decide
on
who
should
be
our
chair
and
vice
chair,
since
we
have
only
a
bare
minimum
attendance.
I
have
misgivings
on
us,
making
this
10
million
dollar
recommendation.
G
Also,
that
said
what
I
would
like
to
see
and
I.
Think
it's
very
laudable.
You
know
the
library
is
a
need.
It's
not
up
to
current
standards
by
any
stretch
of
the
imagination
and
10.
12
years
ago
my
wife
and
I
knocked
on
doors,
getting
signatures
for
the
srl
measure,
L
to
replace
the
library
and
build
a
new
one.
G
That
said,
we
do
have
a
list
of
unfunded
needs,
stretching
to
I,
think
600
million
dollars
give
or
take
a
few
dollars
and
I
think
it
behooves
us
to
look
at
that
list
and
say:
is
the
library
more
important
than
maybe
structural
repair
to
the
Olive
and
Magnolia
Bridges
I?
Don't
know
this
if
that's
a
health
safety
issue,
there's
a
number
of
other
big
ticket
items
and
I
think
to
you
know
adequately
respond
to
the
council,
whether
we
think
the
10
million
set
aside
and
then
for
the
next
30
years.
G
Probably
similar
amounts
is
is
a
major
commitment
which
we
should
thoroughly
review.
Also
I
I
attended
the
Commissioners
Soiree
several
days
ago,
very
nice
and
thank
the
council
for
that.
Why
I
mentioned
that
is
one
of
the
council
members
came
to
me
and
expressed
concerns
over
this
very
issue
because
they
felt
staff
was
putting
essentially
the
cart
in
front
of
the
horse
and
not
getting
into
the
oversight
board
to
get
our
input
to
them
on
this
issue.
H
Comments
can
I
express
an
opinion
and
thank
you,
Mr
Jackson,
I
I
understand
what
you're
saying,
but
I
walked
away
from
the
last
meeting,
with
the
sense
that
we.
A
H
Supportive
of
the
commitment
of
the
10
million
dollars,
in
fact
I
say
we
were
extremely
supported
and
I
know
I
for
one
pointed
out.
This
is
you
know,
a
two
generation
commitment
and
that
this
is
not
just
the
10
million
dollars,
but
the
additional
millions
of
dollars
that
will
be
used
in
the
interim
until
the
project
gets
finalized,
and
then
we
have
another
5.8
million
or
whatever
it
is
for
30
years.
H
You
know,
I
mean
I
I'd
like
to
see
us
doing
more.
Slurry
coding
right
now
to
take
care
of
the
streets
that
have
just
been
repaved
and
use.
Those
funds
but
I
think
we.
It
appears
that
we
also
have
a
commitment
here:
multi-generational
commitment
to
use
our
funds
for
long-term
infrastructure,
and
this
definitely
qualifies
so
I
I.
H
Just
you
know,
I'm
happy
to
wait,
but
at
the
same
time
I'm
wondering
if
we
really
are
not
going
to
gain
any
more
benefit
from
that
I
mean
I,
think
that
to
revisit
the
unfunded
liabilities-
and
they
are-
you
know
a
multitude
of
them-
we
probably
collectively
can
come
up
with
a
you
know.
Half
of
them
is
more
important
than
than
not
important,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
is
what
projects
we
have
you
know.
What's
that
expression
shovel
ready?
You
know
this
is
a
project
that
has
been.
H
As
you
said,
you
know
you
are
committed
to
spend
time
with
your
wife
10
years
ago,
and
we've
been
wanting
a
new
library,
so
my
senses,
I,
don't
know
I
mean
I'm
happy
to
wait,
but
I'm
also
I
thought.
We
already
agreed
that
this
was
the
right
thing
to
do
as
a
board
and
I
know
that
we
didn't
take
the
formal
vote
that
apparently
the
council
needs
from
us.
But
that's
why
I
don't
necessarily
feel
we
need
to
wait.
That's
not
just
my
opinion.
C
One
comment:
I
have
Can
staff
share
us
the
draft
of
the
funding
agreement
or
the
grant
requirement.
C
Well,
the
requirement
for
the
local
mesh
for
the
one-on-one.
If
we
are
not,
if
and
my
understanding
was,
we
do
not
need
to
appropriate
the
funds
at
the
moment
until
we
have
the
funding
agreement
right.
E
Through
the
chair,
we
don't
have
to
I
would
say,
encumber
and
expend
the
funds
with
the
state
until
the
state
says:
hey.
You
have
this
grant
to
the
point
of
making
a
Grant
application
stronger
to
present
to
the
State
against
many
many
many
other,
obviously
jurisdictions
who
are
looking
for
Library
Improvement
money.
It's
quite
critical
that
we
are
able
to
say.
Council
has
committed
in
this
Reserve
account.
If
you
say
yes,
so
that
basically
in
a
simple
way
to
say
it,
we
get
more
points.
A
E
A
review
okay,
but
it
is
it's
not
an
actual
expenditure,
and
that
was
something
we
were
mentioning
at
Council
and
the
same
thing
as
as
member
vanderboard
said.
We
said
that
when
we
presented
this,
this
10
million
dollar
action
that
we
were
going
to
recommend
to
council
was
in
the
August
board
report
as
well.
C
So
we
are
not
suggesting-
or
we
are
not
authorizing
to
the
use
of
this
fund,
rather
than
suggesting
the
city
council
to
reserve
10
million
dollars
as
a
local
match
for
a
grant
application.
E
Right
right,
council
is
seeking
your
approval
of
the
action
that
they
took
last
meeting
to
put
the
10
million
dollars
into
a
reserve
account
for
this
specific
Grant.
Okay,.
B
All
right
so
to
make
sure
I
understand
what
the
process
is
that
we're
going
through
here
so
tonight
we're
we're
not
being
asked
to
approve
the
project,
we're
not
being
asked
to
approve
any
particular
funding.
We
are
prepping.
We
are
doing
this
so
that
we
have
the
ability
to
apply
for
Grants.
We
are
asking
for
a
reserve
to
say
this:
is
we
have
this
ready
so
that
we
have
a
higher
chance
of
getting
a
grant?
And
then,
if
one
of
those
grants
comes
through
yay,
we
have
matching
funds.
B
K
L
Hi
good
evening,
Jennifer
Becker
with
the
financial
services
department,
you're
absolutely
correct,
so
again
we're
this.
10
million
dollars
was
moved
into
a
reserve
account
which
isn't
an
appropriation.
It's
basically
just
setting
aside
funds
so
that
we
can,
you
know,
demonstrate
our
our
financial
strength
in
order
to
be
competitive.
For
this
grant,
like
we've
already
discussed
in
order
for
the
council
to
accept
any
kind
of
outside
Grant
funds,
we
do
require
a
council
resolution,
a
formal
resolution
for
them
to
accept
it.
L
If
we
were
to
be
successful
in
receiving
the
grant
at
that
time,
we'd
return
to
council
one
to
get
a
resolution
to
accept
the
Grant
and
then
two
to
appropriate
the
matching
funds
at
that
time,
so
that,
because
that
expense
would
be
a
requirement
under
under
the
grant.
So
that's
sort
of
the
the
Second
Step
that.
L
We
could
certainly
bring
back
that
to
the
iob.
It's
not
a
legal
requirement,
but
my
assumption
is
that
the
city
council
would
want
us
to
run
that
through
this
group
first,
in
order
to
approve
the
expense,
since
you
do
have
oversight
over
the
entire
fund.
I
think
that
would
be
an
appropriate
step.
E
Right
to
the
point
of
the
answer
is:
is
no
typically
ccb's
commissions
committees
boards
do
not
approve
Grant
acceptance.
Acceptance
of
Grant
funds
prior
to
council
actually
accept
them,
but
in
this
case
specifically
to
Ms
Becker's
Point
since
Council
had
us
come
back
to
you
to
even
approve
a
reserve
of
this
I
would
think
they
would
want
us
to
come
back
to
you
to
say,
hey.
Let's
accept
this
money.
I
recommend
the
council
to
accept
the
money
as
well.
B
It
sounds
like
because
this
project
is
such
a
large
scope
and
essential
for
the
city
infrastructure
that
they
want
us
to
be
a
partner
in
this
process
through
the
whole
thing.
So
it
could
be
pretty
confident
that
as
each
step
comes,
that
will
be
wrapped
into
the
process.
Okay,
good.
So
what
we're?
What
we're
looking
at
tonight
is
basically
the
first
step,
a
very
long
process,
the
First
Financial
step
of
a
very
long
process.
There's
already
many
things
have
happened
before
that
are
not
necessarily
Finance.
B
Well,
there's
a
little
bit
of
financial
already,
but
this
is
a
step
where
we
are
recognizing
that,
in
order
to
allocate
some
of
the
grant
some
of
the
funding
from
Grants,
we
have
to
do
this.
This
preliminary
commitment
to
our
own
participation
in
the
funding
right,
okay
and
then,
let's
see
if
if
it
would,
if
and
when
that
Grant
is
coming
up
in
front
of
council,
does
that
get
presented
as
a
unique
item?
Or
is
it
part
of
the
budgeting
process?.
L
In
this
case,
it
would
guide
them,
so
you
could
appropriate
the
funds
during
the
budget
process,
but
the
acceptance
of
the
grant
typically
requires
its
own
resolution.
That's
not
really
a
part
of
the
budget
and
of
course,
you
know
as
we
move
into
the
future
years.
This
is
a
multi-year
project,
obviously
as
part
of
the
Central
Library.
Anything
that
we
do
going
forward
after
the
acceptance
of
the
grant
would
be
part
of
your
annual
budget
that
you
would
review
and
we
would
plan
it
into
our
annual
budget
review.
B
So
the
I
just
watched
the
last
meeting,
so
it's
the
Milestone
right,
the
Milestone
payment.
Okay,
so
that
Milestone
payment
is
a
unique
payment
that
would
be
with
the
grant
but
matched
with
the
Grant
and
then
following
that
would
be
the
the
yearly
payment
back
at
a
certain
rate
year
to
year.
Okay,
exactly.
B
L
A
lot
of
time
to
come
back
with
this
board
and
review
the
financial
plan,
it's
very
in
the
early
planning
stages,
so
this
is
sort
of
our
step.
You
know
0.5
in
in
getting
to
the
to
this
project,
getting
this
project
off
the
ground.
Okay,.
B
E
And
Madam
chair,
that's
true,
and
if
I
may,
this
has
been
part
of
your
past
couple
of
years
of
capital,
Improvement
program,
development
discussions
as
well.
That
would
certainly
continue,
and
because
this
is
such
a
like,
you
said
a
project
of
this
magnitude
and
importance
to
the
city.
We
would
provide
regular
updates
as
we
move
along
okay.
B
Thank
you
so
this
I
thank
you
for
explaining
all
this
I
just
again,
I
watched
the
video
a
few
hours
ago
and
so
I.
You
know
going
to
walk
through
your
explanation
of
how
All
the
Monies
works
and
one
of
the
questions
I
think
that
a
a
Community
member
might
ask
and
I
would
love
to
hear
your
answer
as
kind
of
a
lay
person's
response
to
simple
responses.
So
this
is
10
million
dollars.
Where
is
it
going
to
come
from?
B
L
One
of
our
goals
of
this
project
would
obviously
be
to
avoid
using
general
fund
dollars
to
fund
a
capital
project
such
as
this,
because
there's
so
many
competing
interests
for
those
limited
dollars
that
we
have
to
provide
all
of
the
services
that
the
city
provides
to
the
community.
But,
of
course,
the
beauty
of
the
passage
of
measure
P
is
that
the
community
directed
us
to
take
50
of
those
funds
and
dedicate
those
specifically
to
infrastructure
projects,
and
that's
partially
because
of
the
large
list
of
unfunded
needs
and
capital
needs
that
we
had
with
the
city.
L
So
we
feel
certainly
that
the
fund
534,
which
is
our
Municipal
infrastructure
fund,
is
the
appropriate
place
with
which
to
fund
a
large
Capital
project
right,
because
that's
really
what
the
community
told
us
that
those
dollars
should
be
dedicated
to
now.
As
far
as
where
the
funds
Come
As
We
Know
measure
P
is
made
up
of
an
annual
contribution
from
the
general
fund
that
maintenance
of
effort
plus
50
of
measure
P,
plus
any
interest,
that's
earned
on
the
fund
each
year.
L
We
do
a
budget
we
take
whatever
we
project
to
receive
in
revenues
and
we
budget
accordingly
for
expenses,
but
of
course
those
don't
ever
line
up
a
hundred
percent,
so
anything
that's
unspent
at
the
end
of
the
year,
drops
back
into
the
fund
balance,
in
addition
to
any
revenues
that
we
are
that
are
over
what
we
projected.
Of
course,
we
project
conservatively,
because,
as
a
finance
person,
you
know
that's,
my
job
is
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
overspend
our
Revenue,
so
we
always
leave
a
little
bit
of
that
buffer.
L
Over
the
past
couple
years,
we've
spent
less
than
a
hundred
percent
of
our
budget.
In
addition
to
our
revenues
have
over
performed
our
projections,
sales
tax
is
doing
phenomenally
well
for
the
city,
both
the
traditional
sales
tax,
Center
measure,
P
I'll,
be
coming
back
to
this
board
next
month
to
give
our
full
year-end
financial
report
for
the
municipal
infrastructure
fund.
So
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that
next
month.
So
what
happens?
Is
that
fund
balance
builds
up
over
time?
L
It's
similar
to
your
savings
account
right
when
you
have
excess
money
in
your
checking
account.
You
move
that
over
to
savings
and
that's
sort
of
what
we
have
so
we're,
probably
in
the
neighborhood
of
around
15
million
dollars
in
fund
balance
right.
That's
not
including
the
revenue
that's
coming
in
during
this
current
fiscal
year
that
sort
of
Revenue
and
expense
left
over
from
prior
years.
L
So
that's
where
we
are
suggesting
that
we
pull
that
10
million
dollars
from
so
it
will
not
impact
the
board's
ability
to
adopt
a
full
infrastructure
plan
in
the
coming
year.
So
that's
important
to
understand
it's
not
going
to
reduce
the
amount
of
dollars
you
have
available
for
projects
next
year,
unless
you
would
choose
to
spend
more
than
what
your
Revenue
brings
in
and
then
obviously
you're
dipping
into
that
fund
balance,
which
of
course,
competes
with
other
things.
L
Roughly
15
million
we're
still
this
is
day
four
of
our
audit
today,
so
we're
still
in
the
process
of
closing
our
books.
So
I
will
have
a
much
better
number
to
you
next
month
when
we're
further.
B
L
B
K
So
the
grant
requires
the
funds
to
be
spent
by
the
end
of
March,
2026.,
okay
and
we're
anticipating
that
we
would
be
able
to
start
construction
on
this
project
in
2025..
So
the
the
grant
funds,
as
well
as
the
matching
funds,
will
be
identified
for
some
early
aspects,
either
equipment
that
can
be
purchased
to
be
installed
later
or
things
like
the
superstructure
of
the
building,
and
you
know
some
of
the
early
work
that
would
be
done
within
that
time
frame.
Okay,.
B
H
A
H
Can't
back
out
I
mean
when
oh
everything
is
said
and
done,
the
library
program
owns
that
ring
and
I,
don't
think
we
are
going
to
add
any
more
money.
It's
there
now,
obviously,
in
a
larger
quantity
and
yes,
we
have
competing
interests,
but
I
think
we're
I,
don't
think
we
can,
when
this
comes
back
to
the
council
and
if
we're
lucky
to
get
the
grant.
H
K
H
I,
don't
think
so,
so
my
sense
is
this:
is
it
we
are
again?
That's
why
I
thought
we
were
doing
already
a
month
ago.
That's
why
you
know
Mr
Jackson's
concerns
to
wait.
Make
me
think
that,
yes,
we
can
all,
and
maybe
we
should-
and
maybe
we
should
come
back
with
this-
have
on
the
agenda
an
opportunity
to
look
at
the
the
demand
for
these
unfunded
items
and
get
them
a
little
more
ranked
so
that
you
know
we
don't.
So
we
express
some
some
more
concern
for
something
more
urgent.
H
Whatever
the
reason
is
I
think
at
this
point
we
can
wait
a
month,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
we
already
told
the
plan,
we
love
it
and
we
are
now
getting
engaged.
So
that's
the
way,
I
look
at
it
and
so
another
month
isn't
going
to
make
a
difference,
but
I
recognize
the
the
need
to
understand
that
there
are
other
components
that
are
not
going
to
get
funded
and
therefore
we
have
to
accept
that.
H
H
B
F
E
Answer
that
or
you
can
yeah
well
have
your
answer.
If,
if.
A
E
Differ
from
mine,
but
Madam
chair,
the
action
has
been
taken
by
Council,
so
we
have
the
additional
competitiveness
in
our
Grant
application
right
now.
If
and
the
urgency
would
be,
if
we
happen
to
actually
hear
within
the
next
30
days.
Hey
you
got
the
grant
Council
says
well.
Did
iob
approve
our
action
that
we
have
to
say
well,
not
yet,
but
we
think
next
meeting
it
sounded
like
they
will.
So
it
would
be
great
to
take
the
action
now
just
in
case.
G
Not
address
again
the
issue
of
continuing
this,
but
I
I
have
a
question
on
the
funding
and
the
report
that
Ms
Goldman
you
prepared
for
Mr
Hess,
and
that
was
before
the
council
last
week
talks
about
the
34
million
dollar
Milestone
payment,
which
is
obligated
by
the
city
through
this
process.
As
we
move
forward,
we'll
have
set
aside
10
million
now
so
are
we
envisioning
next
year
to
set
aside
another
10
million
and
the
year
after
that,
another
10
million
to
make
it
close
to
the
34
million.
L
Well,
the
goal
is
to
use
a
combination
of
different
funds
to
get
to
that
34
million
dollar
number
we're
very
much
hoping
10
of
that
34
million
will
come
from
a
grant.
That
is
not
our
money,
which
would
be
lovely.
Of
course
right.
You
know
and
that's
the
plan
of
course,
we'll
seek
out
every
other
source
of
grant
funding
in
addition
to
the
library
Grant
as
well.
L
But
the
intention
is
to
use
a
combination
of
money
so
to
the
extent
we
could
use
money,
that's
reserved
for
special
purposes
like
art
and
public
places,
development
impact
fees,
Transportation
funds,
all
of
the
different
sources
that
we
could
use
that
could
be
applicable
to
this
project
parks
in
open
space.
Anything
like
that
will
be
pulled
together
to
get
to
that
34
million
dollar
Milestone
payment.
So
it's
possible
that
we
would
ask
for
additional
money
from
the
municipal
infrastructure
fund
right
now.
J
K
If
I
can
just
add
to
that
we've,
as
we've
talked
about
last
month,
we've
worked
very
hard
to
respect
all
of
the
the
huge
list
of
unfunded
infrastructure
needs
and
balance
it.
So
that's
one
reason
why
we
are
looking
at
other
available
funds.
For
instance,
the
library
has
some
development
impact
fees
that
have
been
collected
for
this
very
purpose
and
not
spent
that's
not
going
to
cover
34
million.
We
don't.
We
get
a
tiny
fraction
of
development
impact
fees,
but
those
are
restricted
for
exactly
this
type
of
use.
G
I'm
a
little
confused
about
prop
P
or
fund
5324
when,
when
we
reviewed
the
proposed
and
now
adopted
a
capital
Improvement
projects
for
this
new
fiscal
year,
which
I
guess
we're
now
in
I,
think
there
was
17
projects
and
I
seem
to
remember
17
million
being
a
number
that
was
thrown
out
as
what
had
been
accumulated
in
the
measure.
P
fund
now,
I,
don't
remember
what
the
can,
what
the
price
tag
of
those
17
projects,
but
was
it
7
million?
G
L
So
I
don't
have
the
budget
in
front
of
me,
but
if
I
remember
correctly,
we
projected
revenues
for
the
current
fiscal
year.
That's
dollars
incoming
of
around
18
million
and
we
appropriated
around
between
17
and
18
million
dollars
in
projects
a
combined
projects
and
maintenance
for
the
municipal
infrastructure
fund.
G
Okay,
that
that
sort
of
goes
with
my
you
know,
weak
memory,
so
this
10
million
dollars
that
were
now
shifting
into
this
holding
account
right.
L
L
G
Thank
you
for
clarifying
that.
As
for
the
issue
of
taking
action
tonight
or
or
not,
I
mean
I.
I
agree
with
you,
Mr
Vandenberg,
that
you
know
I
think
we
all
were
holding
hands
and,
if
not
singing
Kumbaya.
We
were
in
general
agreement
last
month
that
this
was
a
very
worthy
project.
G
G
I,
just
don't
know
if
the
other
unfunded
projects
I
mean
there's
one
deal
with
storm
drains
or
something
that
was
over.
A
hundred
million
dollars
price
tag
for
water
quality,
whether
these
other
projects
and
we've
not
really
gotten
any
input
from
staff,
whether
they
are
more
important,
yeah
I
hate
to
say
that
than
a
new
library
and
I.
Guess
that's
for
another
day's
discussion,
but
in
order
to
you
know
fulfill
what
I
think
my
obligation
is
that
I
have
difficulty
doing
it.
With
the
absence
of
that
analysis,.
B
A
E
Four
out
of
seven
correct
yeah
majority
and
if
I,
if
I
may
more
for
public
consumption
of
who's
watching
Mr
Valley's
chair
the
the
the
good
action
that
this
board
took
over
the
past
last
fiscal
year.
When
we
went
through
our
Capital
Improvement
program
development
process,
you
might
recall
there
was
a
specific
meeting
to
go
over
all
the
unfunded
needs
and
actually
prioritize
them
in
a
level
of
one
two
or
three.
E
So
we
have
made
that
step
and
I
think
that's
the
right
step
to
make
because,
like
you
said,
there
are
some
very
major
projects.
This
was
a
list
I
understand
before
I
got
here
that
was
developed
as
far
as
what
measure
P
could
fund
and
what
measure
P
could
fund
amongst
other
funds
is
what
this
body
does
with
staff
every
every
year
for
several
months
and
a
large
project
that
requires
action
right
now,
we're
very
fortunate
to
have
that
before
you
and
it's
it's
not
going
to
be
the
last
one.
E
You
know
we're
I'm
staff
we're
working
on
developing
a
20-year
facilities,
Capital
Improvement
program
for
all
of
our
other.
You
know
one
million
square
feet
of
building
space
that
we
have,
so
it's
a
continual
prioritization
process.
E
It
starts
in
January
or
I
think
earlier
we're
trying
to
get
earlier
this
year
with
with
Mr
Han
going
before
the
Departments
and
saying
what
would
you
like
to
work
on
and
they
look
at
the
unfunded
needs
list
and
they
look
at
what
they
have
in
their
plate
now
and
what
they
forecast
in
the
future,
and
they
have
to
digest
that
and
and
come
up
with
the
best
priorities
and
products
that
we
through
that
they
through
us
can
present
to
you.
E
So
there's
always
that
opportunity
and
there's
always
that
thought
of
I
don't
know
what's
in
the
future,
but
right
now,
this
action
to
take
for
this
project
is
definitely
something
that
we,
like
you
mentioned,
saw
support
from
you
last
month
and
Council
sees
it
too.
So
hopefully
we
can
continue
on
that
and
continue
on
the
process
of
developing
the
best
Capital
program.
We
can,
each
year
with
the
with
the
funds
that
we
have
available.
I
Mr
Brickman
I
just
wanted
to
make
one
quick
clarification.
I
did
a
quick
look
at
the
municipal
code
on
establishing
the
iov.
I
did
not
see
a
super
majority
or
majority
of
the
existing
membership
requirement
for
voting
on
recommendation.
All
I
see
is
a
quorum
requirement
and
so
I
I
think
unless
we
have
some
bylaws
otherwise,
and
especially
since
this
is
a
recommendation
as
long
as
it's
a
majority
of
the
Quorum
with
360
members.
Here,
you
could
agree
on
a
recommendation
to
council.
Okay.
B
C
Thank
you
and
I'm
chair,
Mr
Berkman.
What
I'm
thinking
just
approval
of
the
iob
recommending
to
establish
this
reserve
for
10
million
dollar
shouldn't,
consider
iobs
approval
of
spending
that
10
million
dollar
on
the
library
Project
without
us,
looking
at
prioritization
of
other
cips
I
personally,
don't
want
to.
If
I'm
approving
this,
do
we
have
to
make
a
motion
Mister?
C
Yes,
okay,
so
approval
of
this
motion
I,
don't
want
to
consider
like
okay,
it's
approval
of
a
little
piece
of
the
puzzle
that
you
are
approving
the
entire
picture
of
the
puzzle,
the
way
that
it
was
presented
to
us.
This
is
a
reserve
money
that
we
are
approving
to
put
it
in
a
bank
account
to
go
and
seek
for
the
grant
funds
when
the
grant
fund
comes
back.
That's
where
the
iov,
and
mainly
the
city
council's
responsibility,
is
to
approve
spending
of
that
10
million
dollar.
With
that
said,
I
don't
see
a
problem.
C
If
this
is
the
terms
of
this
motion
to
go
ahead
and
approve,
so
the
staff
can
go
and
seek
for
the
grant
or
if
there
is
any
supplemental
information
that
they
need
to
provide
yep.
That's
all
I
think
I'm.
Sorry
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
about
this.
C
The
this
10
million
dollar
Reserve,
that's
sitting
in
account.
Will
this
be
earning
interest
during
the
time.
L
Yes,
absolutely
all
of
our
available
funds.
The
city's
cash
is
pulled
into
one
giant
fund
and
the
interest
is
then
a
portioned
to
the
different
funds
based
on
their
available
cash
balance.
Okay,.
C
K
Community
poverty
measure
and
there's
a
local
in
income
per
capita
measure.
They
look
at
how
much
our
community
funds
our
library
per
resident
versus
other
communities,
So
based
on
Burbank,
actually
being
a
well-funded,
we're
kind
of
in
the
middle
of
the
pack.
But
we
fit
into
the
the
well-funded
group
around
the
state.
We're
required
to
do
a
one-to-one
patch,
some
other
communities,
for
instance
Kern
County,
the
most
poorly
funded
library
system
in
the
state
is
I
believe
only
required
to
do
a
50
match
so,
but
for
for
us,
it
is
required
one-to-one.
C
I
understand,
thank
you.
One
more
comment:
I
have,
which
is
not
related
to
funding
or
where
we're
going
to
get
the
money
for
this
project
is
I'm
sure
this
is
a
big
project.
This
is
going
to
have
a
big
impact
to
the
City
of
Burbank
to
our
residents.
We
are
adding
500
plus
units
residential
units
in
the
in
the
dense
area
of
the
city.
C
Maybe
we
need
to
do
a
little
bit
more
Outreach
to
our
residents
to
our
constituents
to
see
what
our
day
takes
I'm
up
for
one
for
the
library
and
one
of
the
often
users
of
the
library
on
the
olive
right
here,
but
at
least
we
need
to
hear
what
people
are
asking.
What
do
they
want,
because
this
is
the
two
sides
of
a
big
scale.
We
are
adding
a
dense
residential
area
and
a
trade-off
of
a
good
Library.
If
this
is
what
people
want
or
not,
I
am
for
one
I'm
for
the
library.
C
K
And
with
regard
to
this
project,
specifically,
there
will
be
some
public
input
opportunities.
This
fall
that
are
described
in
the
city
council
report
from
last
week
and
there's
also
the
downtown
Burbank
specific
plan
is
underway.
There's
public
opportunities
related
to
that.
That's
looking
at
the
Civic
Center,
plus
a
larger
area
of
the
downtown
and
the
Community
Development
Department
is
also
updating.
What's
called
the
housing
element
of
the
general
plan,
and
so
that's
that's
coming
to
City
Council
next
week.
K
In
fact,
but
through
that
process,
the
community
has
also
had
opportunities
to
express
their
feelings
about
things
like
location
and
density
of
housing
throughout
the
community.
So
so
there's
ongoing
opportunities
for
that
to
be
contributed,
and
there
will
be
some
specifically
related
to
this
project
in
the
next
few
months.
G
I
I
don't
want
to
be
perceived
as
an
obstructionist,
so
I
agree
with
Mr
Armin
said
you
know
and
then
I
will
support.
If
there's
a
motion
out
this
evening
to
suggest
the
council
do
what
they've
already
done
and
set
aside
the
10
million
dollars.
B
Just
things
I
wanted
to
ask
last
month
when
I
wasn't
here
and
I
saw
the
video,
so
this
particular
thing
that
we're
looking
at
the
the
funding
for
the
10
million
and
the
matching,
and
all
that
that's
just
for
the
building
that
has
the
library
in
it
right
it's
not
for
the
entire
Civic
Center
project.
Those
are
three
three
buildings
in
the
Civic
Center
project
right.
Four,
there's.
K
A
K
B
K
K
B
B
If
your
projections,
since
we're
talking
about
the
new
library
and
building
it
and
long-term
plans
in
your
projections,
do
you
see
the
new
library
how
it's
going
to
be
situated
in
the
in
the
mixed-use
building
and
and
it's
going
to
be
updated
that
it's
cost
to
its
income
to
expense
ratio
will
be
better
once
the
new
libraries
in
place
compared
to
one
that
exists
now?
Are
we
going
to
have
more
or
less
financial
responsibility
for
that
Library
once
it
stabilizes
I
guess,
question
are.
B
L
Sure,
overall,
certainly
I
mean
so
the
the
library
is
going
to
replace
the
existing
Central
Library
and
the
administrative
Services
building,
and
also
the
parking
behind
City
Hall.
Those
three
items
alone.
The
utilities
and
maintenance
of
these
sort
of
outdated
buildings
are
are
fairly
costly.
So
our
hope
is
that
even
with
the
larger
footprint
or
the
larger
square
footage
of
the
new
facility-
we'd,
probably
at
worst
Break
Even,
because
obviously
we'd
look
for
you-
know
more
sustainable
buildings
than
what
we
currently
have.
And
at
least
you
know.
L
From
my
perspective,
the
office
space
from
ASB,
probably
a
little
bit
smaller,
a
little
bit
more
open
and
just
overall
we're
not
going
to
have
sort
of
the
maintenance
problems
that
we
have
in
our
existing
facilities,
which
is
I'm
sure
miss
Goldman,
can
agree.
Both
of
our
buildings
are
pretty
outdated
and
difficult
to
maintain
at
best
great.
B
Thank
you
as
that
yeah
that
answers
my
question.
Oh,
did
you
have
something
else
and
then,
let's
see,
there's
one
more
thing:
where
is
it.
A
K
A
ballot
measure
saying
we
could
measure
out
was
2003
and
it
was
passed
by
two
over
two-thirds
of
the
voters
in
Burbank
the
way
the
ballot
measure
was
written.
It
was
contingent
on
receiving
some
matching
funds
that
we
were
not
successful
for
and
therefore
we
couldn't
actually
assess
that
those
funds
from
our
public
so
they're
not
sitting
in
account
anywhere.
Okay,.
B
H
Chair
if
I
may
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
that
the
our
board
recommend
the
city
council
establish,
10
million
dollar
reserved
account
for
the
new
Burbank
Central
Library
and
Civic
Center
project
from
the
fund
534
current
balance
to
be
used
as
matching
funds
for
this
grant.
That
is
being
sought.
A
B
Right,
thank
you
for
answering
all
our
questions
for
two
months.
I
really
appreciate
it
and
thank
you
for
all
the
work
that
you've
done
on
this
project
that
continue
to
do
all
right.
Next
up
is
Introduction
of
additional
agenda
items.
We've
got
quite
a
bit
coming
up
in
the
next
few
months.
Do
we
have
anything
else?
Folks
are
interested
in
covering.
G
I'm
sure
it's
not
really
an
additional
item,
but
I
don't
know
where
else
I
can
speak
on
it.
Before
our
meeting
I
asked
our
City
attorney
about
changes
in
the
brown
act
and
we
had
been
provided
this
helpful
booklet,
a
couple
meetings
back
and
but
subsequent
to
receiving
this
I
read
in
the
LA
Times
about
changes
into
in
the
brown
act
for
conducting
the
meetings.
G
If
there's
some
difficulties
with
with
anyway
in
conducting
the
meeting
and
the
City
attorney
told
me
that
it's
not
in
this
pamphlet
that
we
received
and
I
asked
if
he
could
send
that
new
language
procedurally
on
how
to
deal
with
with
meetings-
and
he
said
he
would
he'd,
send
it
to
all
of
all
of
us.
But
he
asked
that
I
mentioned
this
as
part
of
of
our
discussion,
so
I
just
think
it
would
behoove
us
to
get
that
additional
information.
All.
I
Right,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Vice,
chair
Jackson.
Yes,
that
new
rule
is
SB.
1100
and
IT
addresses
how
you
could
deal
with
unruly
people
at
a
meeting.
It
basically
memorializes
what
most
City
attorneys,
already
recommend
councils
and
and
boards,
but
I'll
go
ahead
and
send
that
bill
to
Mr,
Han
and
Mr
Han
could
go
ahead
and
forward
it.
The
rest
of
the
board.
B
Any
other
agenda
items,
okay,
so
our
pending
agenda
items
are
in
October,
looks
like
we
have
a
full
schedule:
we've
got
fiscal
year,
2021
Municipal
infrastructure
fund
financial
report,
the
police
and
fire
headquarters,
flooring,
project
update,
which
will
be
interesting
to
see
and
rescheduling
of
November
and
December
meetings.
Yeah.
We
could
do
that
in
October.
I
was
thinking.
Maybe
we
can
do
that
now,
but
we
don't
have
everybody
here.
So
that's
when
we
merge
the
two
together
right
into
one
meeting
because
we
adjust
it.