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Burbank Infrastructure Oversight Board Meeting - August 25, 2022
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No
staff
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shaking
their
heads,
so
I
guess
we
have
no
public
comment
and
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five
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board
members
responsible
comments.
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we
don't
have
anything
to
say
the
consent.
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item
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approval
of
minutes
of
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prior
june
23rd
to
2022..
Does
anyone
have
any
comments,
any
corrections
they
would
like
to
see?
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Yes,
mr
chair
board,
members
happy
to
have
a
very
interesting
topic
for
you
to
hear
about
with
our
new
burbank
central
library
and
civic
center
project,
and
we
have
our
library,
director
and
finance
director
here,
elizabeth
goldman
and
jennifer
becker
and
I
believe,
they're
going
to
take
control
at
the
helm
there.
To
do
a
presentation
for
you.
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H
H
Some
smaller
attempts
at
plans
and
funding
sources
were
considered
in
the
intervening
years,
but
it
wasn't
until
2020
another
two
decades
when
the
city
truly
reopened.
The
question
and
developed
the
central
library
vision
study
when
that
was
presented
to
the
city
council
in
spring
2021
council
gave
direction
for
staff
to
explore
how
to
make
the
project
financially
feasible,
which
has
led
to
the
work
we'll
be
reviewing
tonight.
H
Having
that
steady
revenue
stream
for
city
infrastructure
projects
makes
it
possible
to
move
forward
with
this
idea
tonight,
I'm
going
to
share
some
information
about
the
study
and
the
elements
of
a
modern
library
that
is
truly
able
to
meet
its
community's
needs.
We'll
review
the
concept
for
the
burbank
civic
center,
which
will
be
presented
to
city
council
in
more
detail
next
month,
and
given
that
the
iob's
role
is
to
advise
city
council
on
use
of
fund
534,
we'll
focus
in
on
plans
for
those
revenues.
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H
Work
is
very
much
in
progress
and
is
being
conducted
by
an
interdepartmental
team
involving
the
library,
public
works,
finance,
community
development
and
others,
along
with
a
team
of
consultants
who
are
represented
here
tonight
on
zoom.
Mr
han
has
worked
closely
alongside
me
in
project
coordination
and
I'd
like
to
thank
him
and
mr
berkman
for
their
contributions.
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H
So
this
is
my
first
opportunity
to
speak
to
this
group
about
libraries,
so
I
wanted
to
share
a
little
bit
of
background.
The
current
central
library
opened
in
1963
almost
60
years
ago,
at
a
time
when
libraries
had
a
very
different
role
before
the
explosion
of
personal
technology
and
internet
access
that
started
in
the
1990s
library.
Buildings
were
constructed
mostly
to
warehouse
books
and
provide
access
to
physical
materials.
H
Today,
libraries
still
have
books,
they
still
have
staff
who
offer
research
and
information
assistance
and
still
offer
programs,
particularly
for
children,
but
they
have
expanded
to
be
community
and
learning
centers
that
have
to
address
a
wide
range
of
literacies
and
community
needs.
A
modern
library
is
built
with
flexibility
and
adaptability
in
mind.
We
no
longer
assume,
we
know
how
exactly
the
building
will
be
used
in
20,
40
or
60
years,
but
we
design
it
so
it
can
move
forward
as
our
world
does.
We
focus
less
on
space
for
things
and
more
on
space
for
people.
H
We
acknowledge
different
learning
styles
and
needs
for
different
spaces
and
amenities
through
the
course
of
a
life,
and
we
integrate
our
offerings
very
deeply
with
the
community.
We
serve
whether
that
means
partnerships
for
on-site
programs
or
services,
or
even
in
the
case
of
the
calgary
public
library.
That's
the
exterior
building.
Here,
the
library,
the
physical
building
of
the
library,
is
being
used
to
bridge
two
neighborhoods
that
were
previously
split
by
a
metro
line.
H
That's
a
building
that
just
opened
a
couple
years
ago
and
the
other
examples
here
are
austin
texas,
which
was
built
in
2017
with
the
brightly
colored
children's
area.
The
bottom
slide
is
a
helsinki
finland,
which
notably
has
trees
inside
the
building.
On
the
third
floor,
it's
an
amazing
inspirational
space
and
the
other
bottom
one
is
from
kansas
city
missouri.
H
So
in
2021
we
conducted
this
study,
a
vision
for
a
new
burbank
central
library
which
sought
to
update
the
city's
understanding
of
needs
for
use
of
space.
It
represented
the
first
comprehensive
study
of
costs,
as
well
as
public
needs
and
desires.
In
almost
20
years,
the
city
engaged
the
architectural
firm
miller
hull
to
gather
public
input
through
surveys
focus
groups,
an
interactive
exhibit
at
the
central
library
and
community
meetings.
H
The
first
is
to
highlight
community
identity,
that
is,
to
bring
the
friendly
and
approachable
feel
of
burbank
to
the
project
and
to
make
the
library
a
gathering
space.
The
second
is
celebrate.
Burbank's,
unique
history.
Burbank
is
very
proud
of
both
its
airplane
production
industry
and
current
media
industry
and
thinking
about
how
the
things
that
have
shaped
burbank
so
much
can
be
represented
in
in
a
future
library.
H
H
Fourth,
invest
in
burbank's
next
generation
to
create
a
space
that
supports
student,
success
and
lifelong
learning
and
finally
invest
in
the
city
and
use
resources
responsible
responsibly.
This
speaks
to
sustainability,
fiscal
responsibility
and
smart
planning
for
a
library
that
will
serve
burbank
for
decades.
H
H
H
Arab,
notably
steered
the
city
of
long
beach
through
their
civic
center
redevelopment,
which
included
a
new
central
library
that
opened
in
2019
and
used
a
public-private
partnership
model
that
long
beach
project
provided
inspiration
for
burbank
to
look
at
the
civic
center
as
a
comprehensive
space
rather
than
a
library
on
its
own.
The
community
development
department
is
also
working
on
the
downtown
burbank
specific
plan,
which
looks
at
land
use
in
an
area
that
includes
the
civic
center
and
identifies
opportunity
sites
for
potential
future
housing,
including
several
that
will
be
part
of
this
project.
H
So,
let's
go
through
each
aspect
of
that
in
a
little
more
detail.
First
of
all,
this
is
this:
is
the
map
of
a
conceptual
plan?
That's
based
on
extensive
analysis
of
how
these
elements
can
fit
together
to
meet
city
goals
and
needs
it's
important
to
understand.
This
is
not
a
design
or
necessarily
a
final
layout.
Those
will
come
later
in
the
project,
but
to
analyze
whether
the
project
works,
we
needed
to
develop
a
conceptual
plan
and
understand
how
the
pieces
fit
together.
H
H
The
public
parking
moves
underground,
basically
under
the
library
and
the
residential,
that's
adjacent
to
it
on
that
block,
and
then
each
of
the
residential
buildings
has
its
own
parking
as
well,
so,
notably
along
with
the
adjacencies
that
make
the
public
amenities
convenient
for
residents.
This
plan
creates
a
mid-block
corridor.
H
A
A
H
I
A
H
It
doesn't
it
doesn't
connect
to
the
mall
what
it
does
is
it
creates
this
mid
block.
So
right
now,
if
you're
standing
here,
there's
pathways
where
you
can
walk
in
between
the
buildings
down
to
san
fernando,
but
it's
not
really
well
connected.
It's
not
really
a
space
that
invites
you
to
move
back
and
forth
between
the
san
fernando
area
and
this
area
of
city
buildings.
So
part
of
the
idea
of
this
with
the
new
open
space
and
some
wider
avenues
in
between
buildings
is
to
really
make
that
connection.
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H
E
H
H
This
project
creates
new
public
amenities
that
the
people
of
burbank
have
been
requesting
for
many
many
years,
including
the
updated
library
and
more
open
space
in
the
downtown
area.
But
rather
than
doing
this
in
a
void,
it
uses
the
amenities
to
strengthen
the
downtown
neighborhood,
including
both
affordable
and
market
rate
housing.
H
J
J
These
assets
are
have
useful,
live
designed,
useful
lives
of
65
70
years
and
and
unfortunately,
all
too
often,
cities
like
burbank
find
themselves
struggling
to
continue
to
maintain
assets
over
the
long
term.
So
why
do
we
talk
about
p3s?
Well,
one
of
the
main
reasons
is:
they
are
a
hedge
against
asset
deterioration
over
time
and
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about.
Why
and
and
why
is
that
such
a
major
risk?
J
J
The
other,
the
other
benefit
is
when
you
do
a
p,
when
you're
procuring
a
a
developer,
to
build
things
for
you
in
a
p3
when
you're
evaluating
trade-offs
and
costs
you're
looking
at
them
all
together.
So
when
you're
making
this
decision
you're,
making
it
you're
making
a
decision
about
what
it
will
cost
over
the
life
cycle
and
you're
making
a
commitment
to
those
costs.
J
Another
element
to
that
is
the
developer.
Doesn't
just
get
a
guaranteed
payment,
they
have
to
not
only
perform
that
design
build
work,
but
they
get
paid
back
annually
to
an
agreed-upon
stream
of
payments
from
the
city,
so
the
benefit
there
is,
if
they're
not
performing
during
the
o
m
period.
There
there
can.
You
can
deduct
things.
So
let's
say
that
you
don't
that
the
staff
find
they
don't
have
the
ability
to
use
the
facility
the
way
they
want
it.
There's
a
hvac
problem
or
the
elevator's
not
working.
J
J
A
couple
final
points:
p3s
take
advantage
of
private
financing
or
what
we
call
in
the
industry
project
financing
where
the
the
loan,
the
the
borrowers
or
bar
sorry.
The
lenders
are
lending
money
in
the
context
of
the
p3
contract
itself.
So
it's
not
a
it's,
not
a
bondholder
buying
bonds
against
the
general
credit
of
the
city.
It's
that
they.
The
lenders,
believe
that
the
p3
contract
and
the
developer,
who
needs
to
deliver.
J
It
is
a
well
put
together
plan
that
presents
as
little
risk
as
possible
to
those
lenders
and
ultimately
the
benefit
you
get.
Is
the
lenders
overseeing
the
project
just
like
they
would
a
traditional
construction
loan
or
for
that
matter,
even
the
due
diligence
they
provide.
When
you
get
a
mortgage
on
a
house,
they
want
to
see
good
credit.
Good
performance
in
you
know
historical
performance
and
they
ultimately
become
a
an
ally
to
the
city
and
ensuring
that
the
the
contractor
delivers
on
their
obligations
in
the
in
the
contract.
J
They
insist
on
things
like
you
know,
strong
guarantees
from
the
contractor.
They
look
at
the
track
record
of
the
facility
maintenance
provider.
The
developer
works
with
so
again.
Private
financing
equals
the
the
benefit
of
lender
oversight
and
then,
finally,
what
we've
seen
as
advisors
to
major
projects
that
have
that
are
looking
at
p3s
is
a
a
real
trend
for
public
entities
to
use
p3s
as
a
vehicle
for
hybrid
development.
J
They
also
help
they
also
help
accelerate
projects
that
otherwise
could
take
individually
could
take
a
very
long
time
to
come
to
market,
and
this
sort
of
this
they
call
them
hybrids,
because
you
have
a
you,
have
the
the
public
facility
is
one
of
the
key
delivering.
The
public
facility
is
one
of
the
key
goals,
but
it
is
also
by
bundling
with
other
projects.
J
You
get
you
gain
the
benefit
of
other
policy
objectives,
economic
development,
housing,
offsetting
public
costs
and,
ultimately,
getting
you
know,
efficiencies
such
as
like
and
and
more
market
interest
to
to
provide
competitive
bids.
So
that's
a
quick
sort
of
tutorial
on
on
why
we're
talking
about
p3s
and
how
they
might
benefit
this
project.
H
K
Our
best
estimates
at
this
time
put
the
cost
of
this
project
at
around
116
million
dollars,
which
includes
the
library
and
asb
facilities,
as
well
as
the
parking
and
open
space.
These
costs
were
factored
in
20
22
dollars.
So,
of
course,
as
we
continue
along
this
timeline
of
this
project,
those
numbers
are,
of
course,
subject
to
change
now,
like
most
cities,
burbank
does
not
have
116
million
in
cash
lying
around.
K
Certainly,
if
we
did
I'd
have
a
much
easier
job,
and
this
would
be
a
much
different
discussion
in
a
traditional
project
structure.
The
city
would
go
out
and
seek
to
issue
debt
to
build
itself
a
library,
and
it
would
pay
that
debt
back
over
a
30-year
period.
But,
like
orion
said,
one
of
the
big
advantages
of
the
p3
structure
is
that
the
developer
is
responsible
for
financing
the
project.
K
Sorry,
the
city
would
have
that
annual
payment
obligation
to
the
developer
and
would
report
this
liability
on
the
city's
financials.
But
since
the
debt
does
not
reside
with
the
city,
it
would
not
count
towards
our
debt
capacity
or
limit
the
city's
ability
to
issue
other
debt
in
the
future
for
other
projects.
K
K
K
A
second
we
have
the
recurring
costs
of
the
project
to
contend
with,
based
on
an
analysis
of
current
spending
levels
and
future
projected
expenses
for
the
infrastructure
fund.
We
feel
that
the
city
can
reasonably
commit
about
25
percent
of
fund
534's
annual
revenues
towards
the
city's
payment
obligation
for
this
project,
and
this
is
net
of
the
ground
lease
revenue.
H
The
library
and
other
public
amenities
are
targeted
to
open
around
2027,
along
with
the
first
residential
structure
and
the
other
residential
buildings
will
be
constructed
on
a
staggered
schedule
over
the
five
to
six
years
after
that
date.
So
that's,
and
that
is
when
at
the
end
of
that
period,
is
when
we
see
the
full
benefits
of
those
ground
leases
that
can
offset
the
annual
costs.
H
So
thank
you
very
much
for
your
attention
to
this,
and
we
look
forward
to
hearing
your
discussion
about
this
project
and
all
three
of
us,
as
well
as
the
public
works
staff.
Who've
been
assisting
with
this
project
are
available
to
answer
questions
about
the
infrastructure
aspects
of
this.
The
proposed
use
of
fund
534.
Thank
you.
A
F
F
F
K
Correct
so
the
city
will
have
an
annual
payment
obligation
for
both
the
financing
and
the
maintenance
and
life
cycle
costs
of
the
library
offsetting
that
annual
payment
will
be
revenue
received
from
the
ground
leases
for
each
of
the
housing
buildings
now
over
time.
Of
course,
leases
as
we
all
know,
rents
don't
decrease
over
time
for
the
most
part
right.
So
over
time
we
will
see
those
rents
increase,
which
means
that
portion
of
the
revenue
will
increase
over
time
as
well.
K
In
addition,
the
annual
payment,
the
payment
obligation,
is
like
a
fixed
payment
kind
of
like
your
mortgage
right,
so
that
stays
consistent
over
time,
while,
of
course,
the
sales
tax
revenues
that
come
into
fund
534
as
part
of
measure
p,
will
continue
to
increase.
Now,
the
annual
maintenance
does
have
an
inflationary
piece,
so
that's
the
only
port
of
our
portion
of
our
annual
payment
that
will
increase
over
time,
but
it's
likely
that
the
revenues
both
from
534
in
general
and
from
the
ground
leases,
will
increase
to
keep
up
with
that.
F
Final
question
would
be
say:
10
15
years
down
the
road
you
come
up
with
a
great
new
concept.
Will
this
building
be
amenable
to
like
an
improvement?
Let's
say,
you've
come
up
with
a
great
idea
on
how
to
improve
it.
Will
we
be
able
to
do
that
or
you
will
the
city
be
able
to
do
that,
not
because
something's
bad
with
the
program,
but
you
come
up
with
a
great
idea
to
improve
it.
H
Well,
the
answer
to
that
certainly
depends
a
little
bit
on
the
scope
of
your
idea.
For
instance,
if
you
wanted
to
add
a
retractable
roof,
then
that
would
be
a
very
a
very
expensive
addition
in
terms
of
the
general
uses,
though,
as
services
especially,
I
mean
I'll
speak
specifically
to
the
library
portion
as
services
change.
I
I
Do
we
want
to
set
aside
25
percent
of
the
funds
that
come
in
for
this
project?
Is
this
the
the
right
thing
to
do
to
tell
the
council?
Yes,
we
do.
No,
we
don't,
I
think,
that's
our
biggest
question.
The
details
of
the
project
are
fantastic.
They're,
terrific,
you
know
there's
an
opportunity
for
design,
I
mean
you
talked
about
connectivity
to
downtown,
etc.
I
I
know
those
are
big
words
and
ultimately
it's
how
the
design
develops.
You
know
I'm
thinking
of
the
existing
parking
structures
that
appear
to
be
showing
to
disappear
and
new
new
ones
will
happen.
You
know,
thank
goodness,
for
that
they're
long
in
need
of
replacing
those
old
parking
structures
there.
I
In
other
words,
we
have
our
little
piggy
bank
that
has
what
15
million
dollars
or
so
now
and
you're,
asking
to
take
10
million
of
that
then
you're
saying
set
aside,
continue
to
set
aside
that
money
now,
even
though
the
30-year
period
of
responsibility
won't
start
for
another
five
six,
seven
years,
so
it's
really
a
40
year
commitment
of
money,
and
I
think
that's
what
we
as
a
board.
That's
from
my
perspective
and
my
you
know
anything
my
colleague
said
in
addition
to
the
questions
of
the
specific
project
is
what
we
have
to
ask
ourselves.
I
Is
this
worthwhile?
You
know
my
heart
tells
me,
of
course
it
is
it's
fantastic.
You
know
what
an
opportunity
to
develop
my
real
realization
of
being
old,
you
know
being
a
70
year
old
person.
Who's
lived
through
through
this
community
for
the
last
55
years
or
50
years.
Is
that
yeah?
Hopefully
it
will
be,
I
mean
it
has
to
be.
We
have
to
improve
things.
We
need
a
civic
center.
I
We
need
that
open
space
that
that
attracts
people,
but
it
needs
to
be
designed
with
utmost
care,
and
I
and
I
hope
it
happens-
you
know
I
won't
be
around
when
this.
You
know
30
years
from
now
to
see
what
the
what
the
value
of
it
is,
but,
but
I
think
it
has
the
value.
I
think
this
is
where
we
spend
the
25
percent,
and
we
just
recognize
that
you
know
I
I
asked
mr
you
know
mr
hunt
to
send
me
information,
because
I
did.
I
I
was
a
way
to
look
at
all
the
other
unfunded
projects
and
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
have
had
an
opportunity
to
look
at
those
and
you
and-
and
I
mean
you
know
our
board
members-
our
staff
is
continually
looking
at
them,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
other
projects
that
are
worthwhile
as
well,
so
we
have
to
just
simply
say
you
know:
where
do
you
start?
This
is
something
that
we
need
as
a
community.
I
The
opportunity
to
make
it
all
happen
is
fantastic.
I'm
you
know
our
consultant
talks
about
the
all
the
benefits
of
the
p3
system,
which
I
totally
can
understand.
You
know
the
private
world
is
primarily
intending
to
survive
and
make
money.
So
lenders
don't
want
to
lend
to
a
project
that
doesn't
have
a
good
contractor
and
doesn't
have
a
or
a
good
developer,
but
none
of
us
guarantees
that
we
will
be
successful.
I
You
know
my
inclination
is
yes,
but
I
certainly
defer
to
any
other
thoughts
from
my
colleagues
to
see
if
anybody
else
has
any
other
ideas
or
thoughts
and
then
the
specifics
of
the
project
gosh,
I
I
don't
know
that
we,
you
know,
will
have
enough
time
to
to
go
through
them
at
any
time,
because
it's
a
very
detailed
project.
You
know
the
issue
of
housing
brings
new
questions
to
brandon
about
the
impact
of
schools.
I
mean.
Obviously,
there
are
impact
school
impact
fees
that
will
be
paid
for
each
housing
unit.
I
That
will
help
the
school
district,
but
I
also
know
that
right
now,
they've
welcomed
hundreds
of
more
students.
I
mean
they're
going
through
a
process
of
eliminating
staff
because
they
don't
have
enough
students
at
burbank
middle
school.
You
know
luther
burbank
and
other
problems
like
that.
So
I
I
think
this
is
the
right
thing
to
do:
we're
desperate
for
housing
as
a
community.
As
a
city
I
mean,
I
know
it
means
more
people,
you
know
and
there's
this.
It
needs
more
demand
for
water.
I
F
One
comment
about
what
my
colleague
was
talking
about
here
and
thinking
in
terms
of
your
financing.
It
looks
like
you
expect
that
your
financing
from
the
ground
leases
to
increase
over
time,
which
it
should
knowing
how
rents
go
anyway.
So,
theoretically,
that
should
help
to
off
balance
any
costs
that
comes
out
of
the
534
fund,
and
maybe
that
25
percent
goes
down
over
time,
because
this
will
definitely
those
leases
will
definitely
go
up
over
time.
So
theoretically,
but
you
presented
as
a
great
idea.
D
J
Sure
we
so
we
evaluated
a
range
of
ratios
looking
at
sort
of
the
inclusionary
housing
ratio,
kind
of
8515,
all
the
way
up
to
a
ratio
of
25
affordable
and
what
some
of
the
trade-offs
were
economically
and
through
some
analysis
done
by
our
our
real
estate,
economist
bay
area
economy,
bae
urban
economics,
we
landed
on
an
80
20
ratio
and
the
sort
of
the
main
reasons
for
that.
Are
it
maximizes
it?
It
enables
the
housing
projects
to
take
advantage
of
density
bonuses.
J
We
have
not
done
a
detailed
analysis
of
what
level
what
income
levels
that
would
cover.
I
think
we
ran
the
analysis
at
eighty
percent
ami
as
an
average,
but
based
on
the
preliminary
preliminary
work,
the
80
20
ratio
to
20
affordable
seems
to
be
the
right
place
to
maximize
affordable
housing,
while
also
generating
sort
of
positive
cash
flow
from
the
ground
leases.
D
J
Well,
the
big
ones
are
our
budget
and
schedule.
So
if
once
they've,
once
the
design
builder
has
a
fixed
price
and
the
contract
is
executed,
that's
the
budget
now
the
owner,
the
owner,
can
request
changes
if
they'd
like,
but
the
prod.
The
contractor
is
responsible
for
a
fixed
price
date,
certain
delivery
and
that
promise
is
not
necessarily
just
to
the
city.
J
H
And
the
grant
is
also
a
10
10
million
dollar
grant.
So
for
the
first
time
in
about
15
years,
the
state
led
the
state
passed
as
part
of
its
budget
last
fiscal
year.
Funding
for
library,
infrastructure
grants,
it's
being
managed
by
the
california
state
library
and
the
you
are,
and
cities
were
allowed
to
request
up
to
10
million
dollars
with,
in
our
case,
a
one-to-one
match
requirement.
The
match
requirements
are
based
on
per
capita
income
levels
in
the
community.
H
H
There
isn't
that
type
of
restriction.
There
is
a
timeline
restriction
on
it,
so
we
would
use
the
money
at
the
early
part
of
the
construction
and
obviously
it
needs
to
be
spent
on
the
library
portion
of
the
project,
but
the
library
building
itself
certainly
is
expensive
enough
that
that
these
funds
will
it
will
adequately
be
able
to
match
the
funds
with
the
uses.
H
From
534
yeah
yeah
the
s
well,
the
estimate
is
the
estimated
annual
costs
over.
That
time
is
about
7.8
million
dollars
a
year
about
2
million
of
that
should
be
offset
by
the
ground
leases.
So
it's
it's,
5.8
million
is
the
number
and
we
decided
we
tried.
We
tried
to
look
at
it
as
this
25
percent,
because
in
the
early
years
we
won't
have
all
of
that
ground
lease.
So
it's
going
to
fight
the
obligation
on
fund
534
is
a
little
higher
to
begin
with.
H
L
L
H
We
certainly
hope
so,
as
this
project
becomes
more
more
concrete,
then
we're
definitely
going
to
be
looking
at
other
grant
sources
for
many
many
areas,
everything
from
transit
to
storm
water,
other
environmental
features
the
park
and
open
space.
There's,
I
think,
lots
of
opportunities
out
there.
The
proposed
bus,
rapid
transit-
I
know
not
a
popular
subject
in
burbank,
but
on
that
proposed
route,
it
comes
to
glen
oaks
and
it
turns
on
olive.
H
H
People
who
are
living
right
downtown
will
be
able
to
use
any
of
those
modes
to
travel,
to
downtown
la
go
to
work
whatever
is
going
on
and
then
of
course
again
we're
not
in
the
design
phase,
but
based
on
the
city's
complete
street
goals.
We
would
certainly
anticipate
that
there
would
be
improvements
around
things
like
bike
lanes
in
the
area
as
part
of
the
redevelopment.
L
A
A
A
H
After
that
time,
the
the
assets
they're
always
owned
by
the
city,
the
public
assets,
the
library
building
and
open
space,
but
they're
being
operated
and
maintained
by
the
private
developer.
So
after
that
time
the
city
takes
that
responsibility
back,
you
basically
sever
the
relationship
and
it
just
becomes
like
any
other
city
building.
H
A
A
Okay,
I
still
not
100
clear
which
properties
are
in
question,
but
that
that's
not
necessary
at
this
moment,
but
I
assume
that
they're
sincere
city
owned
and
they're
in
the
downtown
center
they're,
not
zoned
for
residential.
How
are
we
going
to
get
over
that
hurdle?
Are
we
going
to
do
a
zone
change
to
that
area?.
H
The
way
to
get
over
that
hurdle
is
coordination
with
the
downtown
burbank
specific
plan.
That
is
also
well
underway
at
this
point
in
time.
So
that
plan
is
going
to
is
the
main
goal
of
it
is
to
look
at
the
land
uses
in
the
down
downtown
area
which
is
bigger
than
the
civic
center,
and
as
part
of
that,
because
of
the
state's
expectations
of
communities
like
ours
to
increase
our
housing.
H
A
H
And
the
eir
at
least
the
majority
of
it
should
also
be
part
of
the
downtown
plan.
So
by
identifying
this
project
as
one
of
the
components
of
that
downtown
specific
plan,
it
gets
lumped
into
the
overall
environmental
review
for
all
of
the
projects
in
that
area.
There
may
be
once
the
prod.
This
project
is
designed
to
a
little
more
detail.
There
may
be
supplemental
environmental
review,
that's
required,
but
we
won't
know
that
until
a
little
further
down
the
road.
A
Okay,
and
did
you
pick
up
one
point
mr
brennan
commented
about
about
the
impact
on
schools
and
other
parts
of
our
infrastructure.
I
mean
this
is
not
standing
alone,
I
mean
we
have
the
old
ikea
site.
We
have
the
old
fry
site,
we
have
the
site,
that's
under
construction
on
first
street
we
have
the
site.
That's
under
construction,
on
whatever
the
heck.
The
street
is
that's
right
by
the
railroad
stop.
A
So
we
have
probably
several
thousand
units
that
are
coming
online
over
the
next
few
years
and
that's
gonna.
You
know
we're
not
gonna
water,
our
lawns
next
month,
and
so
it's
a
question.
You
know
how
much
that
will
impact
our
infrastructure.
Will
our
police
and
fire
response
times
be
what
they
are
now
or
will
they
be
degraded
over
the
course
of
all
this
construction?
A
Okay,
who
has
final,
say
on
materials
and
finishes,
and
maybe
our
consultant
might
be
able
to
why
I
ask
that,
is
you
know
I've
been
around
for
a
while
and
in
my
experience
you
know
if
things
get
tight
developers
do
what
it's
called.
You
know
cost
engineering
and
what
the
public
has
been
sold
for
the
nice
drawings
that
have
been
presented,
winds
up
being
a
little
less
luxurious.
A
J
E
And
mr
chair,
if
I
may,
within
the
process
of
the
p3,
the
beauty
from
an
engineer's
standpoint,
is
the
design
build
process
where
they
have.
We
have
the
opportunity
to
see
what
fit
and
finishes
are
specifically
there
versus
the
o
m
lifetime,
as
as
orion
mentioned
in
the
beginning,
that
kind
of
flexibility
and
relying
on
the
expertise
of
the
concessionaire
team
and
their
experience
in
building
these
mega
projects
like
we're
looking
at,
is
very
helpful
to
make
sure
we
make
the
right
decision
not
just
for
oh
look
at
the
pretty
picture
there.
E
E
Mr
chair,
absolutely
that
is
the
same
way
as
this
process.
The
the
is
a
big
answer
to
we
don't
have
the
experience
or
expertise
to
do
this
multi-generational
type
of
project.
We
rely
on
the
industry
to
help
us
craft
this
scope,
budget
and
schedule
and
operations
and
maintenance,
and
we
rely
similarly
on
an
independent
party
to
make
sure
somebody's
checking
up
on
the
on
the
concessionaire
team.
They
make
sure
they're
doing
it
right:
construction
management,
inspection
and
etc.
A
H
A
D
E
A
E
E
M
M
closer
okay,
so
we
actually
included
all
the
budget
information
and
the
budget.
Information
is
a
year-end
budget
information
as
of
june
30th,
and
so
all
the
project
information
has
the
budgeted
information,
the
total
spent
and
also
the
available
funds
for
each
individual
project,
and
many
of
these
projects
are
actually
in
the
procurement
phase
and
that
we're
working
we're
working
with
purchasing
to
put
the
bid
document
together
and
to
be
able
to
put
the
the
bid
package
together
and
for
advertisement.
M
So
the
we
had
the
maxim
memorial
project,
that's
kind
of
midway
down,
that's
actually
with
purchasing
right
now
and
we're
finalizing
the
bid
document
city,
our
service
building,
we're
actually
finalizing
the
rfp
to
get
the
contractor
on
board.
So
that
should
be
moving
forward
relatively
soon
and
also
the
going
on
top
make
cambridge
pull
park,
pull
repair,
work,
we're
actually
going
to
be
starting.
The
design,
work
and
construction
should
start
in
august
of
2020
2023
on
that
going
to
the
transportation
projects
we
have
the
fiscal
year
annual
residential,
paving
project.
M
That's
actually
in
construction
at
this
time,
and
then
we
have
the
arterial
annual
arterial
payment,
rehab
project.
That's
actually
we're
finalizing
the
bid
document,
and
that
should
be
going
in
for
advertisement
within
the
next
towards
the
end
of
the
month.
I
think
you'll
be
probably
towards
the
end
of
the
month,
beginning
of
the
yes,
possibly
in
september.
I
M
Project,
that's
actually
contract's
been
awarded,
went
to
council
and
that
should
be
starting
construction
within
the
next
couple
months.
Glen
oaks,
boulevard,
arterial
project,
that's
actually
we're
finalizing
the
the
bid
document.
Also
we
started
the
actually
the
the
procurement
phase
where
we
bought
the
the
material
for
that
for
the
poll
and
that's
the
process
started
earlier
because
of
the
there's
a
long
lead
time
in
getting
the
material
for
that
and
just
going
through.
M
That
project
actually
has
been
comp
combined
with
the
bonniewood
closure
project,
because
it's
in
the
same
area,
so
we
have
the
same
consultant
doing
the
design
work
for
that
chandra
bikeway
extension,
the
rfp
process
has
started
where
cdd
is
working
on
that
we
have
the
downtown
san
fernando
boulevard,
reconfiguration,
it's
a
phase
one.
We
have
a
consultant
on
board
working
and
putting
some
concept
studies
together
for
us,
and
then
we
have
the
olive
sparks
verdugo
intersection
improvement
project.
M
M
The
layout
was
they
laid
it
out.
Based
on
the
recommendation,
I
think
what
the
council
direction
gave,
what
the
council
direction
was,
but
the
the
current
traffic
engineer
he
did
some
study
and
they
didn't
see
a
true
benefit
in
what
the
recommendation
was
so
we're
trying
to
maximize
and
make
the
intersection
work
better.
M
C
M
C
M
So
many
of
these
are
actually
in
the
procurement
negotiating
the
final
phase
of
the
contract
and
working
with
the
city
attorney's
office.
To
move
these
projects
along
the
brace
canyon
park
ball
field
project.
I
believe
the
public
outreach
was
completed
for
that
project
and
they're
moving
forward
with,
with
the
design
phase
of
that,
the
burbank
little
theater
renovation
project
is
actually
on
hold
they're,
actually
waiting
for
the
finalization
of
the
olive
breakfast
recreation
center
redesign
project.
M
They've
done
the
public
outreach
they've
done
some
master
planning
and
they're
going
to
try
to
move
forward
and
kind
of
fold
the
burbank
little
theater
renovation
project
as
one
project.
It's
since
it's
in
the
same
area
and
the
community
garden
of
the
first
phase
was
completed,
they're
actually
working
on
a
second
phase,
second
community
garden.
M
Also
for
that
and
then
dick
clark
dog
park,
that
project
is
on
hold
because
of
the
la
city,
their
project,
the
sewer
project,
because
it's
the
the
dog
park
is
gonna
go
above
that
facility-
and
this
is
just
the
highlight
of-
I
believe,
you've
seen
many
of
these
slides.
So
all
these
projects
are
basically
from
the
throughout
the
entire
year
isaiah
miller
gross
park
playground
renovation,
as
you
can
see,
as
they
have
the
before
project
before
the
project
and
and
after
and
then
also
miller
park.
M
M
And
then
when
it
was
after
and
then
we
have
gross
park,
that's
before
and
then
after
and
you
can
see
the
big
difference
in
and
what
they've
done
and
then
we
have
the
bell
driving
range.
The
cost
was
275
000
to
complete.
Then
they
completed
in
july
january
of
2022
and
you'll
see
you've
seen
some
of
these
pictures.
But
you
can
see
this
is
I
mean
huge
improvement
and
actually
somewhere
that
I
wouldn't
mind
going
and
hitting
some
boss
too.
M
M
Then
also,
we've
done
completed
some
annual
facilities,
small
cap
project.
This
is
part
of
the.
If
you
recall,
part
of
the
budget
was
1.6
million
dollars
as
for
small
cap,
and
these
are
some
of
the
work
that
they
completed.
The
title
4
electric
panel
replacement
in
march
of
2022,
and
you
have
the
csb
data
center
hvac
replacement.
M
M
And
these
are
the
projects
under
construction.
We
have
the
irrigation
improvement.
That's
so
ongoing
this
schedule
to
be
completed
this
month
and
I'm
not
sure
I
think
they
had
some
issues
with
the
labor,
and
so
there
might
have
been
a
little
bit
of
delay.
I'm
not
sure
if
they're
going
to
be
able
to
finish
it.
Yes,
yes,
that's
the
reclaimed,
waterline
purple
line.
C
M
M
F
M
C
M
E
D
E
E
With
the
major
yeah
yeah,
there's,
there's
lots
of
conversations
going
on
I'll
say
about
the
brt
project
and
how
it's
coming
through
our
city,
how
it's
going
to
impact
olive
avenue
bridge,
for
example,
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
what's
going
on
conversations,
how
are
we
going
to
fund
this
major
improvement
and
how
does
it
specifically
improve
it?
Burbank
residents
of
businesses
so
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
I
Mr
vice
chair,
thank
you.
It's
just
an
observation
that
piggybacks
of
the
what
is
just
discussed
right
now,
the
coordination
that
needs
to
happen,
mr
han,
with
respect
to
the
olive
sparks
verdugo
intersection,
I'm
assuming
that
this
current
consultant
is
working
on
an
alternative
is
more
than
aware
of
what
the
response
has
been
from
the
neighborhood
and
the
immediacy
of
the
urgency
from
this
chicken
just
chicken
place.
That
is
adding
to
everybody's
headaches.
I
I
Great,
this
is
one
of
these
crazy.
You
know
six
streets
coming
together
or
three
streets
coming
together
for
intersections
from
six
directions
of
traffic
that
there's.
There
are
simple
solutions,
but
no
one
will
be
ever
happy
with
any
of
the
solutions,
and
that
goes
back
to
how
much
outreach
can
your
department
do
or
through
cdd
or
whoever
is
in
charge
of
that
outreach
to
try
to
convince
the
neighbors
that
a
solution
is
going
to
be
better
than
this?
Oh,
don't
impact
me
issued,
you
know,
don't
cultify
my
street
because
of
them
back
the
next
three.
I
Don't
don't
you
know
change
the
the
turning
direction?
Is
the
right
turn
only
all
of
that?
Eventually,
the
solutions
are
there,
but
we're
going
to
have
to
do
more
outreach.
I
think
it's
just
it's
just
an
observation
simply
because
this
is
kind
of
very
close
to
that
current
hot
zone
of
people
who
are
angry.
You
know,
which
is,
unfortunately,
what
drives
people
and.
E
E
I
want
to
say
it's
february
that
I
think
we're
supposed
to
come
back,
but
don't
quote
me
on
that,
but
it
is
in
the
works
and
it
is
a
complicated
intersection
and
my
personal
story
when
I
drove
in
my
first
day
work
up
olive.
I
looked
at
and
I
said
boy.
This
is
a
beautiful
place
for
a
roundabout.
But
that's
that's
me.
I
love
my
roundabouts,
I'm
I'm
from
the
east
coast
and
that's
and
that's
the
kind
of
response
we
get.
But
anyway
I
wasn't
here
to
throw
that.
I
G
I
C
I
D
A
A
I
saw
the
one
the
bell
there
was
the
pink
or
purple
whatever
pipe,
which
means
that's
reclaimed:
water
up
there
doing
the
driving
range,
the
other
parks,
the
ball
fields.
Some
are
going
to
have
artificial
turf.
Do
the
other
parks
have
reclaimed
water
or
are
we
going
to
have
brown
fields,
not
not
the
toxic
brownfields,
but
well.
E
Mr
chair,
every
opportunity
that
we
get
and
I'm
speaking
for
bwp
water
operations
and
parks
and
recreation
together
we
seek
the
opportunities
to
branch
out
and
build
out
a
master
system
of
our
recycled
water
everywhere.
We
can
both
through
our
own
capital
projects
and
infrastructure
investments
as
well
as
when
development
comes
in
and
we
condition
them
to
say.
There's
a
recycled
water
main
there
you're
going
to
be
putting
in
landscaping
so
expand.
You
know
extend
that
purple
pipe
up
to
your
property,
so
we
could
have
recycled
water.
E
A
M
A
Okay,
why
I
keep
bringing
this
up,
you
know,
is
in
the
out
years,
2023
2024
2025
we're
we're
proposing
you're
proposing
to
dedicate
nearly
three-quarters
of
a
million
dollars
more.
I
think
it's
700
000..
You
know
this.
Past
week
I
had
the
opportunity
to
take
a
tour
of
disney
elementary
school.
Mr
brennan
and
I
were
on
the
oversight
bond
committee
for
a
number
of
years
and
larry
cross,
the
director
of
of
finance.
A
A
I
think
it
has
probably
about
10
classrooms
in
it
and
when
they
got
the
buildings
from
from
the
the
company
that
built
the
module
units
they
didn't
have
foundation.
Obviously
they
didn't
have
roofs
and
they
didn't
have
flooring.
I
was
surprised
to
learn
that
I
mean
there
was
the
basic
subflooring
and
larry
was
pointing
out
the
one
in
this
one
classroom
was
special
because
it
it
didn't,
have
toxic
glues
and
it
was
able
to
be
assembled,
and
I
asked
him
how
much
the
flooring
cost
and
he
said
about
six
dollars.
A
A
square
foot
and
the
numbers
you're
proposing
are
on
the
order
of
a
hundred
dollars
a
square
foot,
and
you
know
it
just
I'm
skeptical
and
I
you
know
this
isn't
on
our
agenda,
mr
city
attorney,
and
but
you
know,
I
hope,
the
next
time.
Oh,
I
demand
the
next
time
that
this
item
comes
before
us,
the
next
fiscal
year
that
you
be
able
to
explain
fully
why
the
months
are
so
astronomical.
G
I
Mr
vice
chair,
can
I
oh
yes
something
you
said,
and
I
don't
know
again
to
what
extent
our
oversight
board
here
has
any
opportunity
to
say
this,
but
we
are
facing
a
water
shortage.
You
know
that's
a
across
the
nation
in
so
many
places,
and
certainly
for
us
here
is
fairly
extreme
in
about
a
few
weeks
here
or
for
two
weeks,
we're
not
supposed
to
water,
your
lawns
etc.
I
Are
we
missing
again
an
opportunity
to
look
at
the
bigger
picture,
as
we
fund
projects
with
this
recycled
water
that
in
essence,
basically
we
treat
it
as
well?
It's
recycled
water.
Therefore,
we
can
throw
it
out
there
and
water
lawns
and
you
know
let
it
evaporate.
Let
it
you
know
like
I,
my
watering
at
home
is
all
underground.
You
know
I
changed
that
probably
10
years
ago,
or
so
you
know
it
saves
water,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
most
people
don't
do
that
it
costs
money.
It's
very
extensive.
I
You
know
we
send
the
wrong
message
when
we
rely
on
this
recycled
water
and
now
have
this
wonderful,
beautiful
golf
course.
You
know
place
and
not
only
as
a
golf
course,
but
so
many
other
places
and
people
have
a
mixed
signal.
In
my
opinion,
as
a
community
we
say
well
see
I
you
know,
I
went
and
hit
a
bucket
of
balls
up
there
and
it
looks
beautiful.
I
Why
can't
I
water
my
lawn-
and
I
don't
know
what
the
answer
is
to
that,
but
I
just
say
it
as
a
member
of
the
board
an
opportunity
to
discuss
this
simply
because
it's
the
issue
of
watering
etc
and
using
recycled
water
is
just
in
front
of
us.
How
do
we,
how
the
heck
do
we
learn
to
communicate
better,
and
I
mean
I
I'm
one
of
those
crazy
peoples.
I
would
be
happy
to
drink.
You
know
toilet
to
tap
water.
I
That's
you
know
it's
a
horrible
way
of
describing
it,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
we
should
maybe
we
should
be
looking
at
this
water
and
being
a
little
more
cautious
and
not
just
using
it
to
water
lawns
but
rather
say
have
it
more
available
so
that
we
don't
rely
on
the
colorado,
river,
water
or
the
state.
You
know
system
that
is
limping
limping
along.
F
Oh
yes,
mr
brennan
comment
to
mr
vanderboy's
comments.
Actually
what
we're
looking
at
the
problem
is,
it's
you
could
say
it's
a
cultural
example,
my
wife's
from
new
jersey.
She
loves
to
have
a
lawn.
I'm
from
southern
california
grew
up
here
and,
like
most
of
my
associates
that
I
was
growing
up
were
mexican-americans.
I
would
like
to
see
northern
mexico
type
front
yards
okay,
but
can't
get
that.
K
F
E
A
A
A
We
have
fiscal
year,
21
22
infrastructure,
funding,
financial
report
and
rescheduling
of
the
november
december
meetings,
because
we
will
fall
on
thanksgiving
and
almost
christmas
and
then
the
november
december
is
metro,
holly,
north
hollywood
to
pasadena
bus,
rapid
transit
project
update
and
the
first
and
second
quarter
fiscal
year,
20
right.
Okay,
thank
you,
yeah
and
then
the
final
one
future
date
uncertain
is
a
workshop
discussion
on
the
further
defining
our
role
of
iob,
and
I
think
this
is
very
vanderburgh's
request.
A
I
At
that
point,
I
just
wanted
to
say
in
our
immediate
agenda:
didn't
we
all
attend
some
two-hour
conference
zoom
meeting
or
have
you
all
done
that
already,
which
has
had
to
do
with
building
team,
etc
and
dialoguing
dialogue?
Were
we
not
having
some
kind
of
a
follow-up
on
that?
I
was
under
the
impression
that
there
was
going
to
be
a
an
in-person
meeting.