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C
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C
So
I
state
your
first
and
last
name,
richard
parker,
charles
repeat
after
me,
do
silence
later.
Do
some
only
swear
that
I
will
support
the
constitution
that
I
will
support
the
constitution
and
laws
of
the
united
states
and
laws
of
the
united
states,
and
I
will
be
faithful
and
I
will
be
faithful
allegiance.
A
Maintain
and
defend,
maintain
and
defend
the
constitution
and
laws
of
the
sixth
state.
The
constitution
involved
with
the
state
not
inconsistently,
not
inconsistent
with
the
constitution
of
the
united
states,
the
constitution
of
the
united
states,
to
the
best
of
my
knowledge
and
ability
to
the
best
of
knowledge
and
ability,
and
that
I
will
and
that.
C
D
Is
introduce
an
introduction
of
the
staff,
as
well
as
a
roll
call
of
members,
so
I'll
ask
conrad
to
start
with
the
introductions
of
the
staff.
Thank
you,
chair
parker.
I
just
wanted
to
introduce
the
staff
to
the
planning
and
zoning
commissioners
and
thank
your
free
employment
and
mr
beasley
you've
got
jamie
lawson,
our
planning
director.
She
has
been
responsible
for
overseeing
the
entire
department.
We
also
receive
code
enforcement,
the
geographic
information
systems,
department
and
community
development.
So
there's
a.
E
D
D
We
have
a
two
new
pers,
not
new,
but
two
new
staff
members
in
a
sense
principal
planners
that
have
joined
us
with.
D
You
might
be
receiving
phone
calls
or,
if
you
haven't
already
just
to
kind
of
check
in
with
the
you
know,
if
there's
anything
that
we
can
help
you
with
delivering
a
packet
etc.
So
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
guys
see
us.
H
Are
aware
of
our
presence
and
if
you
have
any
questions
you
can
always
reach
out
to
us,
we're
unhappy
so
say
anything
that
was
awesome.
No,
I
think
conrad
covered
it.
We're
just
excited
on
our
new
commission
member
and
the
of
you,
chair,
parker
and
enjoy
working
with
you
guys
will
continue
to
do
so
and
are
always
available
if
you've
got
any
questions
on
items
feel.
A
Free
to
reach
out
to
staff,
thank
you
who
will
roll
call
members,
please
we'll
be
doing
a
roll.
D
D
D
A
Ii,
mr
galactus
vice
chair,
would
you
accept
this
nomination,
mr
black?
Okay,
I'm
just
black
would
not
accept
the
nomination.
Is
there
another
nomination?
A
A
A
All
right,
we
have
two
people
nominated
for
the
chair
of
the
board.
Let's
see
how
we'll
vote
for
this.
What
is
your
suggestion?
Ms
awesome.
D
One
so
for
chair
parker
have
a
roll
call
for
that
nomination:
okay,
parker,
a
chair
parker;
yes,
vice
chair
black,
no
member
beasley.
Yes,
remember
kirkpatrick
that
remember
ron.
D
A
A
Second,
thank
you
say,
mr
beasley.
I
have
one
correction
if
you
would
on
page
five
and
the
second
to
last
paragraph
mr
osbold
is
regarding
the
gas
station
and
then
the
next
line
says
mr
buckhill
is
concerned
that
serving
the
citizens
of
burlington
is
what's
most
important.
That
should
be
mr
oswalt,
instead
of
buckingham,
because
it's
on
buckhill
road
so
make
that
oz
bolt
that'll,
be
our
correction
to
the
minutes.
A
Are
june
22nd
now
I'd
like
to
say
a
few
things
before
we
get
started,
this
meeting
is
being
held
in
person
and
on
the
zoom
platform
and
is
being
recorded.
A
A
So
our
first
item
of
business
is
rezoning
22-007,
mr
nathan
burton
applicant
to
present
a
request
to
rezone
property
zone,
medium
industrial
m.I,
to
be
rezoned
light.
Industrial
li
hoffman
is
located
normally
from
the
intersection
of
white
kennel
roll
road
old
trail
road
and
anthony
road
addressed
at
1601,
anthony
road
and
consisting
of
alamance
county
tax
identification.
Number
120395.
G
All
we
would
like
to
do
is
we're
not
changing
anything
on
the
property
itself?
What
I'm
trying
to
do
is
get
my
dealer
audience
to
be
able
to
sell
tractor
trailers
which,
most
of
the
time
they
wouldn't
be
there.
So
that's
that's
the
only
reason
I
need
the
reason
to
to
establish
my
dealer
license.
G
A
A
Is
there
any
conflict
of
interest
with
any
of
the
clan
and
zoning
members.
J
J
We're
way
too
close
for
me
to
be
voting
on
this
okay,
so
I
just
I
don't
feel
comfortable
because
forced
to
look
small,
yes-
and
I
would
just
feel
comfortable
laying
out
of
this,
because
I
don't
want
anything
to
be
skewed
in
anyway.
Okay,
thank
you,
mr
kirkpatrick,
so
mr
kirkpatrick
is
asked
to
recuse
himself
because
of
personal
friendships.
J
Is
there
any
objection
to
that?
Mr
black.
H
H
H
F
Mr
chairman,
yes,
sir,
I
make
a
motion
to
written
an
approval
of
the
request
for
zone
property
zone,
medium
industrial
to
be
rezoned,
light
industrial
properties
located
northerly
from
an
old
trail
road
and
anthony
road
addressed
as
1601
anthony
road
and
consisting
of
alamance
county
tax
identification
number
one:
two:
zero,
three,
nine
five.
My
motion
is
based
upon
the
consistency
of
the
proposed
rezoning,
the
comprehensive
plan
and
that
future
land
use
map
and
section
4
land
use.
The
comprehensive
plan
calls
for
this
area
to
have
general
industrial
uses.
F
D
L
Hello
good
evening,
everyone
good
evening,
sir,
thank
you
for
letting
me
in.
I
would
like
to
make
three
comments.
One.
We
intend
to
use
this
property
in
line
with
the
master
plan,
as
well
as
what's
been
approved
for
this
area
in
the
past.
L
Obviously,
it
was
institutional
and
we
are
looking
for
partners,
but
in
line
with
what
the
city
has
shared
with
us
as
allow
users
for
this
area
to
in
terms
of
having
a
pediatric
facility
that
supports
kids
with
autism.
L
This
is
going
to
be
no
different
in
the
way
it
conducts
business,
as
was
the
child
care
facility
that
the
church
was
running
three,
the
sanctuary.
As
we
have
requested,
we
intend
to
have
limited
use
restaurant
either
a
either
breakfast
place
like
berry
and
bows
or
321
coffee
that
employs
kids
with
developmental
delays
so
or
a
high-end
restaurant
that
is
open
in
the
evenings.
Eventually,
that
is,
that
is
where
our
goal
is
to
be
able
to
reuse
this
facility.
L
I
am
aware
of
that
email
that
conrad
you
received
today,
requesting
that
change
of
the
use
of
the
property
would
generally
reduce
the
value
of
the
properties
around.
We
disagree.
We
respectfully
disagree.
We
believe
that
the
change
of
use
is
is
in
line
with
what
the
kind
of
traffic
that
is
already
in
that
area.
In
fact,
we
tend
to
make
it
more
organized
and
two
anytime,
a
coffee
shop
or
a
neighborhood
bakery
comes
in.
It
enhances
the
value
of
the
neighborhood
anytime,
a
high-end
restaurant.
L
M
L
I
would
like
to
reiterate
that
we
intend
to
bring
significant
value
to
the
to
the
area
we
we
are
asking
for
nothing
more
than
what
is
being
allowed
in
the
in
the
neighborhood,
in
the
sense
that
half
a
block
is
commercial
and
how
the
block
is
his
own
residential,
and
so
you
know,
we
think
that
overall
we
will
enhance
the
value
and
not
take
away
from
it.
Jerry
do
you
want
to
add
anything
to
it?
I
think
you
can
do
very
well.
K
All
right,
thank
you,
gentlemen.
Before
we
get.
A
No
okay,
what'd,
you
say,
mr
run,
I
said
no,
no
okay,
mr
beasley,
okay,
mr
blood
right
are
there
questions
for
the.
F
Applicant,
mr
chairman,
yes,
sir,
since
the
africa
opened
the
door
about
it
being
a
pediatric
autism,
what
would
the
hours
of
operation
be.
L
L
L
Five
days
a
week,
saturday
mornings,
but
five
days
a
week
and
the
primary
entrance
and
exit
would
be
off
off
the
street
in
the
back.
That
is
a
commercial
street.
I
sort
of
fund
me.
I
I
don't
see
that
on
the
map
here,
but
it's
not
going
to
be
davis
street.
The
the
edmonton
exit
will
be
from
either
cameron
street
or
from
the
street.
That
is
the
main
species.
L
L
A
Chairman,
yes,
sir,
since
we've
opened
up
the
restaurant,
what
will.
L
Their
hours
of
operation,
be,
you
know
the
two
things
that
we
we
you
know
committed
ourselves
to
was
obviously
add
in
general
by
providing
these
services
that
are
not
available
to
the
community
and
to
add
value
to
it.
L
L
That's
only
open
from
wednesday
through
saturday
or
wednesday,
sunday
in
the
evenings,
starting
about
7
and
finishing
up
at
about
10
or
11,
would
be
ideal.
We
we
don't
yet
now,
so
I
do
not
want
to
just
leave
the
mislead
the
planning
board
or
the
council
in
any
way,
shape
or
form.
We
do
not
yet
know,
but
we
have
a
few
restaurants
and
a
few
businesses
that
are
like-minded,
that
work
with
the
kids
with
developmental
delay
that
we
will
be
engaging
with.
J
To
the
developmentally
delayed
children
is
that
is
this
a
a
medical
type
service,
or
is
this
a
day
facility
where
they
can
come
and
develop
skills?
Well,
what
what
exactly
is.
L
It's
a
daily
facility.
That's
that's
a
very
good
question.
It's
a
vape
facility
that
our
clinicians
and
we
have
several
conventions.
We
have
board
certified.
Behavior,
analysts,
psychologists,
licensed
psychology,
associates
speech,
land,
pathologists,
physical
therapists,
occupational
therapists
that
work
with
children
with
developmental
delays,
primarily
kids
on
the
spectrum,
kids
with
autism,
who
we
work
with,
and
they
certainly
spend
four
or
five
hours
a
day.
L
There's
a
facility
like
this
with
that
we
are
going
to
allocate
about
you,
know
18
to
20
000
square
feet
to
that
that
endeavor
will
have
a
staff
at
any
given
time,
no
more
than
50
people
in
terms
of
residency
there
and
we
have
enough
parking
so
that
not
to
clog
up.
L
Lot
well,
the
good
news
is
the
sanctuary
and
the
rear
park
which
was
being
used
for
childcare
childcare.
Both
are
ada
compliant
and
handicap,
obsessive.
There
are
ramps
to
both
those
they're
already
existing
in
it
and
we
will
obviously
comply
with
adba.
We
are
governed
by
the
centers
for
medicare
and
medicaid
that
that
requires
us
to
be
ada
compliance.
Okay,
did
you
have
a
neighborhood
meeting
to
discuss
this
with
the
neighbors.
K
D
There's
no
neighborhood
meeting
scheduled
it's
not
a
required
meeting
to
be
held
prior
to
going
before
the
clinton
zoning
convention.
It's
advisory.
L
We
tend
to,
we
tend
to
invest
in
the
community.
There
will
be
close
to
50
fairly
high
paying
jobs
in
the
area
for
services
that
are
required
in
the
area.
All
the
mcos
have
been
asking
us
to
come
to
burlington
because
there
is
significant
lack
of
these
services
in
the
area.
L
And
what
I
want
to
remind
everybody
is
that
this
is
no
different
than
neurotypical
kids
in
child
care
and
at
any
given
time
there
were
close
to
50
kids
that
were
being
taken
care
of
in
the
childcare
arena.
So
this
is
no
different.
It's
just
that
we
work
with
kiddos,
who
are
a
little
more
disadvantaged
in
life,
but
it's
our
responsibility
to
provide
the
same
opportunities
for
them.
L
D
D
A
N
N
L
That's
a
very
good
question.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
ricky
for
asking
that
all
of
our
care
is
provided
one
to
one,
so
every
child
that
we
take
care
of
that
we
work
with
on
skill
acquisition
is
always
with
a
terrorist,
and
these
kiddos
get
one-to-one
skill
acquisition
treatment,
20
hours
a
week,
so
there
will
be
no
child
without
adult
supervision,
and
the
rules
are
that
every
child
will
be
within
six
feet
of
the
therapist,
always
within
six
feet
of
the
therapist
working
with
the
child
skill
acquisition
for
the
language
with
the
daily
daily
work.
L
We
have
27
facilities,
11
of
them
in
pediatrics
north
carolina
and
have
never
had
an
incident
where
a
child
has
has
been
disrupted
outside
of
our
facility,
while
in
treatment
with
us.
L
N
L
Yes,
the
the
backside
penn
state
around.
What's
the
street
again,
wherever
I've
landed,
sorry
marketing
street,
is
there
yeah?
So,
while
was
you
know,
the
the
property
currently
has
channeling
fence.
That
is
not
what
we
intend
to
use.
We
will
intend
to
use
contiguous.
L
N
Not
at
the
moment,
I
just
wish
that
we're
going
to
be
downtown
or
somewhere
else
where
we
already
have
vacant
buildings,
and
this
could
become
in
a
residential.
L
Townhouse
or
something
else,
I
really
appreciate
what
you're
saying
two
or
three
things:
one:
the
church
has
been
to
sale
for
a
while,
and
we
believe
we
add
value
to
it
rather
than
letting
a
significant
piece
of
property
right
next
to
your
residential
area
are
going
into
this
repair.
That's
one
part
number
two
for
these
kiddos,
the
child
care
facility.
That
also
already
exists
at
the
church.
L
It's
it's
almost
like
a
gift
from
neurotypical
kids
to
new,
reverse
kids.
You
know
that
that
facility
has
served
kids
who,
who
are
going
to
do
great
things,
and
I
think
it's
almost
a
gift
to
kids,
that
that
require
a
little
bit
more
help.
Three,
just
like
you
mentioned.
L
It
is
best
for
us
to
be
in
this
area
where
we
can
have
the
parking
where
we
can
fence
the
area
off
and
where
the
kids
are
safe,
good
to
say,
families
stay.
They
spend
some
time
with
us
and
you
know
generally
joining
downtown
areas.
L
I
really
appreciate
your
support
as
well,
and
I
can
assure
you
we
take
our
ownership
of
these
properties
very
seriously.
We've
done
that
in
gastonia,
in
belmont,
in
salisbury,
in
concord
in
apex
and
we've
added
significant
value
to
the
neighborhoods.
L
Not
facing
the
east
davis
but
on
the
back
end
as
well,
there's
no
reason
for
us
to
change
that,
except
for
we
intend
to
add
significant
landscaping
and
fencing
on
the
back
side.
L
I
mean
the
the
grounds
are
our
pleasure
to
look
at
and
they
should
remain
the
same.
D
D
J
Industry
consisting
of
county
tax
identification
number
136,
two,
the
most
based
on
consistency
of
the
proposal.
Zoning
with
the
comprehensive
plan
in
that
future
landmark
land
use
map
in
section
four
land
use.
Other
comprehensive
planning
calls
for
this
area
to
have
traditional
residential
uses.
The
request
is
compatible
with
the
adjacent
residential
commercial
uses,
the
actual
reasonable
public
interest
in
that
comprehensive
plan
calls
for
residential
commercial
uses
in
the
area.
The
request
is
compatible
with
existing
zoning
and
land
houston.
A
Motion
carries
4-1.
Thank
you,
gentlemen,
for
being
with
us
tonight.
Good
luck
on
your
moving
on
to
city
council.
Thank
you.
So
much.
A
Okay,
waller
applicant
to
present
a
request
to
re-zone
property
zone,
medium
density,
residential
mdr
to
be
re-zoned
to
office
and
institutional
oi
property
is
located
on
the
northeast
corner
of
cardwell
tribe
in
south
nebut,
addressed
as
3549
south
memphis
street
and
consisting
of
alamance
county
tax
identification.
Number
114046.
E
E
E
Were
there
any
calls
concerning.
A
A
This
is
not
limited
use,
it
could
be
anything
in
o
and
you
have
a
chart
in
your
packet
4-4,
which
has
oh
and
I
under
the
commercial,
and
it
can
be
anything
from
a
boarding
house
to
a
triplex
to
a
multi-family
dwelling
adult
daycare.
It's
all
listed
there,
an
auditorium
call
of
the
university.
E
E
Which
would
be
consistent
with
the
surrounding
development
of
the
adjoining
school,
which
is
in
that
eighth
high
density,
residential
design
litigation
here.
A
E
A
A
Time,
I
don't
think
there's
any
confidence
of
interest
here.
Aren't
there
I
got
one
richard
okay,
mr
ryan,
go
ahead:
question
for
the
applicant:
do
you
have
an
idea
how
many
clients.
A
A
I'm
well
pleased
up
to
the
podium
here
and
give
us
your
name
and
you're
right.
I'm.
P
Margaret
hansen,
2702
cop
side
drive
okay,
which
is
directly
across
from
this
slot.
I
have
a
little
problem
with
the
fact
that
it
came
to
the
board
without
an
actual
plan.
P
P
P
Where
are
you
that
the
entrance
to
there
is
that
small
road
that
leads
directly
to
the
side
of
the
school?
I
don't
know
if
that
is
actual
cargo?
Okay,
that's
where
the
people
pick
up
their
kids,
that
street
right
now
that
when
you're
dropping
kids
off
and
picking
them
up,
it's
totally
blocked.
P
E
H
Staff,
do
you
have
a
recommendation?
Yes,
steph
recommends
the
rezoning
request
and
the
compliments,
the
commercial
and
institutional
type
of
uses
in
the
area
as
well
as
the
residential.
H
F
F
This
motion
is
based
upon
the
consistency
of
the
proposed
reasoning
with
the
comprehensive
plan
and
then
future
land
use
map
and
section
4
land
use.
The
comprehensive
plan
caused
the
area
to
have
suburban
residential
use.
This
request
is
compatible
with
the
adjacent
residential
and
commercial
uses.
The
action
is
reasonable
and
in
the
public
interest
in
that
comprehensive
plan
calls
for
residential
and
commercial
uses
in
the
area.
The
request,
the
request
is
compatible
with
the
existing
zoning
and
land
uses
in
the
area.
A
A
Ms
mandy
cliff
applicant
to
present
a
request
to
re-zone
property
zone
office,
institutional
to
be
re-zoned
to
general
business.
Limited
use.
Gblu
is
located
on
the
westerly
located
westerly
from
the
intersection
of
meadowwood
drive
and
south
church
street,
addressed
as
3158
south
church
street
and
consisting
of
alamance
county
tax
identification
number
112,
884.
Q
Our
client
has
purchased
property
that
was
used
as
a
bank
and
has
an
existing
drive
through.
He
would
like
to
utilize
the
building
as
a
restaurant,
which
would
currently
be
allowed
in
the
oi
occupancy.
However,
he
would
like
to
utilize
the
existing
drive-through
feature
as
well,
so
we're
asking
for
a
limited
use
rezoning
in
order
to
utilize
the
existing
drive
through.
A
J
H
You
have
a
lot
of
friends
good
for
you
all
right,
okay,
yes,
so
I
just
wanted
to
clarify.
We
didn't
receive
any
calls,
but
we
did
get
some
questions.
D
O
Can
we
go
back
to
the
refusal
section?
Yes,
I'd
like
to
encourage
myself,
I
rented,
through
my
business
to
the
property
immediately
jason
there
potential
future
customer
as
well.
I've
got
a
former
co-worker
who
lives
at
the
opposite
corner.
A
F
Mr
karen
I've
always
been
under
the
opinion
that
the
future
was
based
on
monetary
gains
or
something
that
a
financial.
A
F
Stigma
of
friendship,
because
lord
knows
I
mean
you
know
that
being
the
case
you
might
as
well
step
down
if
you're
going
to
be
friends
with
everyone.
I
mean
no,
I'm
just
saying
that
that
I'm
trying
to
remember
the
rule,
the
law
according
to
recusals,
and
I
keep
thinking
that
just
because
you're
a
friend
unless
you
can
say
I
can't
I
cannot
vote
because
I
don't
trust
that
I
will
be
able
to.
F
You
know,
vote
honestly
based
on
friendship,
because
I
mean
we're
all
going
to
run
into
friends
being
on
here
and
if
you
don't
have
a
financial
interest
in
it,
don't
know
that
you
can
recuse
yourself.
I
really
don't.
I
mean
I
can't
remember
enough
of
a
parliamentary
procedure
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
I
do
believe
that
there's
a
there's,
a
fine
line
and
that
line
is
pretty
much
financial.
Well.
J
And
I
agree
with
you
wholeheartedly:
it's
it's
the
level
of
friendship.
You
have
folks
that
are
there
that
you're
very
close
with,
and
then
you
have
friends
and
when
you
cross
that
line
to
me
I
mean
to
me:
it's
it's,
it's
a
perception
and
I
don't
ever
want
anyone
to
ever
say
you
know.
H
Understood
a
conflict
of
interest,
it
has
to
be
a
a
financial
that
I
will
ever
accuse
myself
that
that
would
that
would
be
my
recommendation
too,
and
I'm
not
for
you
to
accuse
yourself.
But
if
there
is
not
a
financial
interest
or
gain
associated.
N
A
A
Would
it
also
be
improper
if,
by
voting
you
could
help
someone
you
knew
by
that
action,
so
it
should
be
a
question
of:
are
you
impacted
or
by
your
voting?
Will
you
help
somebody
that
you
know
that
this
could
happen?
I
think
that
would
be
an
appropriate
question.
It's
you've
already
voted
on
it,
but
I
think
it's
more
than
just
what
personalities
about
the
property,
but
as
far
as
this
resulting
request
goes,
it
looks
to
me
like
sometime
back
when
a
lot
of
planning
people
decided.
Q
You
know
the
bank
was
in
there
which
fit
the
enzyme
rules.
I
guess-
and
everybody
was
happy-
I
guess-
with
the
banquet
in
there
because
it
fit
the
qualifications
now
you're
going
to
think
this
area
is
often
institutional
and
right
in
the
middle
of
it.
You're
going
to
put
a
general
business
limited
use.
Q
Are
there
no
other
places
that
this
business
can
go
that
they
have
to
come
in
here?
You
might
as
well
change
the
whole
thing
to
general
business,
and
then
they
use.
If
you
put
that
right
in
the
middle
there's,
no
there's
no
argument
for
not
doing
it.
For
for
the
rest
of
all
that
property,
I
see
some
over
there
grant.
That's
general
measures,
so
is
miss
cliff
still
there
does
she
have
that
there,
how
many
people
are
going
to
be
in
this
restaurant?
How
big
a
facility,
how
many
people
look
old.
Q
Okay,
thank
you
for
your
question.
The
facility
the
building
itself
is
going
to
remain
and
in
the
current
zoning,
the
building
can
be
changed
to
a
restaurant,
which
is
the
goal
of
the
owner.
However,
the
general
business
limited
use.
The
reason
why
we're
only
going
for
a
limited
use
rezoning
is
because
the
only
thing
that
we
want
is
to
utilize
a
drive-through
with
the
restaurant,
especially
with
with
covid
and
take
out.
We
feel
like
that's
a
real
benefit
to
patrons.
Q
As
far
as
the
number
of
people,
of
course,
the
building
code,
the
building's
not
sprinkled,
so
it
will
limit
the
number
of
people,
but
also
our
parking
spaces.
We're
limited
due
to
the
number
of
parking
spaces,
so
we're
expecting
to
have
around
80
max
seats
in
the
in
the
restaurant.
Q
I
Yeah
and
all
due
respect
to
your
client,
I
think
this
is
just
the
case
of
where
a
building
is
available
to
be
sold
and
the
person
that
wants
to
buy
a
cup
and
a
restaurant,
and
I
don't
I'm
not
in
favor
of
it,
you
can
go
a
thousand
feet
either
way
and
there's
no
restaurants
there
on
south
church
street
sir,
come
to
the
public
and
state
your
name
and
address
please
my
name.
A
And
I'm
mrs
onsbarger,
which
was
on
the
board,
said
it
will
never
be
changed
again,
but
it
was
it's
o
now
next
thing
you're
going
to
change
that
and
once
you
change
it,
they
can
do
anything
they
walk
with
in
that
code.
No,
sir,
you
say
no,
sir,
it's
a
limited
use
position.
Well,
I
don't
know
this
limited
use.
This
is
the
first
time
I've
heard
of
anything
like
that.
Yes,
sir,
usually
when
they
went
to
the
next
step,
then
after
overdone
any
you
could
do
anything.
You
want
we've.
R
R
We
fought
mr
ellenberg
and
mr
stone
directly
across
that
where
the
other
bank
is
there
was,
I
think,
there's
four
banks
in
that
one
little
old
area,
I
tried
to
go
to
the
bank
to
cast
a
check
one
time
and
that
highway
is
45
miles
an
hour.
I
got
killed
and
I'm
a
little
older,
so
I
don't
run
too
fast.
Now,
I'm
telling
you
it
it's
a
blast
to
try
to
get
across
now.
R
If
I
leave
my
house
and
go
directly
to
highway
70,
I
have
to
use
the
center
lane.
Well,
the
state
troopers
will
give
them
tickets.
If
you
use
that
center
leg
to
come
on
you're
laughing,
that's
the
truth.
I
know
it's
true
and
I'm
telling
you
you
know:
you've
got
two
eating
places
right
down.
The
road
you've
got
joe
jean
feingold,
that
was
it
joe
bagels
or
whatever
bojangles
and
mcdonald's.
R
Just
like
you
got
four
or
five
banks
in
the
one
area,
you're
wondering
why
why
do
you
allow
this
you're
supposed
to
protect
the
citizenry?
I
pay
the
taxes
for
that
engineer
and
all
my
plebei
board.
I
was
here,
mr
emerson,
did
you
ever
ever
remember
mr
episode.
He
was
in
charge
of
what
she's
doing
that
the
planning
board
and
he
guaranteed
me.
He
said,
mr
warrior:
that's
country,
corn,
property
it'll
never
be
resolved,
but
all
I've
been
doing
over
the
years.
I've
been
there
since
1985
is
fighting
resulting
okay.
R
Q
B
H
H
M
M
So
once
this
property
gets
rezoned
under
the
limited
use
which
has
10
type
of
businesses
today,
which
can
be
opened
under
that
business
use
so
once
they
buy
that
once
they
open
the
restaurant
here,
if
they
go
back
or
if
they
don't
want
to
continue,
they
will
sell
this
to
some
other
business.
They
will
never
come
back
with
this
planning
goal
and
they
will
do
whatever
they
want
to
do.
They
will
send
it
to
other
restaurant,
which
may
not
be
suitable
for
our
kids
suitable
for
us.
S
Who
raise
kids,
we
want
it
to
be
as
much
less
commercialized
as
possible
because
there
are
properties
which
is
known
as
the
like
housing
colony
is
just
behind
the
property
as
well
as
in
front
of
the
public.
So
my
request
is:
please
support
us
and
don't
let
this
idiot
or
this
property
to
be
resolved.
S
I'm
concerned
about
the
hours
with
the
restaurants
right
now:
we've
got
banks
and
offices
and
they
close
five
six
o'clock
or
if
they're,
open
and
they're
someone's
just
delayed
and
staying
later,
it's
not
constantly
going
and
coming
and
going
and
seriously.
You
cannot
get
on
70
unless
you
catch
the
light
on
the
other
side.
A
T
T
H
Oh,
this
is
jamie
lawson
planning
director,
so
oni
does
have
restaurant.
Their
request
is
to
change
the
zoning
to
general
business
to
allow
for
a
drive
through
o,
and
I
has
just
a
sit-down.
T
Q
Thank
you
for
your
question
and
I
do
want
to
add
that
the
intent
is
to
also
have
indoor
seating
with
the
restaurant,
but
we
just
want
to
utilize
the
existing
drive-through
as
far
as
additional
paving,
I
can't
say
for
sure
one
way
or
the
other
until
we
review
the
design
the
design
for
the
drive-through.
However,
the
intent
is
not
to
add
any
extra
paving
unless
it's
going
to
be
required
to
install
a
drive-through.
T
T
Concern
thank
you
for
your
answer,
because
this
creek
floods
a
lot.
I
even
questioned
why
they
approved
the
housing
down
here.
We
moved
here
about
30
35
years
ago
and
we.
T
Here
we
don't
get
the
good
drainage
in
the
ground,
and
I've
been
working
with
the
city
on
this
for
many
many
years
to
try
to
keep
pavement
away,
but
we're,
like,
I
said,
totally
against
the
restaurant.
T
T
T
A
Have
we
got
the
recusal
things
written
down
here?
Yes,
I
believe
we're
square
okay.
So
now
we
have
four
people
to
vote.
H
Yes,
so
staff
is
recommending
this
rezoning
request,
as
it
is,
complements
the
residential
and
commercial
uses.
F
Chairman,
yes,
make
a
motion
to
recommend
approval
of
the
request.
Reasonably
zone
office
institution
will
be
presumed
general
business,
limited
use
properties
located
westley
from
the
intersection
on
meadowwood
drive
and
south
church
street,
addressed
as
3158
south
church
street
and
consisting
of
alamance
county
tax
id
number
112884.
F
The
motion
is
based
upon
the
consistency
of
the
proposed
rezoning
for
the
comprehensive
plan
and
that
the
future
land
use
mapping
section
4
land
use
of
the
comprehensive
plan
calls
for
this
area
to
have
a
suburban
residential
use.
The
request
is
compatible
with
the
adjacent
residential
and
commercial
uses.
This
action
is
reasonable
in
public
interest.
In
that
conference
plan
calls
for
residential
and
commercial
uses
in
the
area.
The
request
is
compatible
with
the
existing
zoning
and
land
uses.
In
the
give
you
second.
I
D
O
D
M
M
A
H
And
anyone
has
the
opportunity
to
speak
tonight
and
also
at
the
people.
M
M
I
had
money.
Somebody
supported
me,
I'm
happy
about
that,
but
my
understanding
and
first
time
in
this
meeting,
so
my
understanding
is
we'll
come
here
we'll
make
a
case
like
all
of
us
neighbors
who
don't
want
this
to
happen,
and
people
will
listen
to
us
and
they
will
probably
make
a
judgment
based
on
what
we
spoke.
What
it
looks
like
I
understand
that
you
are
not
getting
paid,
that's
funny.
Thank
you
very
much.
H
Briefly,
so
staff,
as
you
know,
prepares
the
packet
and
has
traditionally
had
hard
copies
that
have
been
delivered
to
your
addresses,
we're
interested
in
hearing
from
the
commission
members
in
terms
of
moving
to
an
electronic
format
so
that
either.
H
You
can
download
the
packet
it
on
your
electronically.
We're
certainly
welcome
and
able
to
provide
you
with
packets
and
hard
copies,
if
that's
still
your
preference,
but
we're
moving
in
a
direction.
Obviously,
where
we're
hearing
a
lot
of
cases,
there's
a
lot
of
paper
associated
and
costs
associated,
possibly
one
suggestion
would
be
to
to
to
do
black
and
white,
except
for
the
zoning
maps,
maybe,
but
we're
just
we're
just
looking
for
your
feedback
and
to
see
if
there's
commission
members,
that
that
don't
mind
having
a
preference
just
having
electronic
copies.
H
So
we
can
understand-
and
also
you
know,
staff
does
does
take
time
to
to
distribute
the
packages.
You
know
around
the
city
on
the
days
where
the
package
is
due,
so
we
just.
H
Hear
from
you
guys
and
really
it's
your
preference
still
to
continue
in
this
format,
we're
happy
to
do
so,
but
since
it's
a
new
kind
of
new
year
new
appointments,
we
just
like
to
have
that
discussion.
So
maybe
we'll
just.
D
Hoping
to
kind
of
try
this
out
for
about
six
months
to
a
year
and
if
there's
anything
special,
if
you
do
need
the
facts
of
mr
kirkpatrick,
if
you
want
us
to
not
deliver
more
than
happy,
if
you,
if
you
need
something,
we
can
print
something
out
for
you
and
we
can
pick
it
up.
I'll
make
a
note.
I'd
like
to
make
a
note
of
each
commissioner
what
preference
they
have
just
so
we
can
more
be
more
efficient
with
our
time.
So,
mr
patrick,
I
can
put
you.
A
Well,
I
admit
you
know
I'm
like
her,
I'm
an
old
school
guy,
but
the
paper
just
seems
to
be
an
excessive
expense
for
the
city
to
bear,
especially
when
we
reprint
these
principal
use
tables
every
single
time.
A
You
know
we've
been
given
the
principal
use
tables
and
it
seems
to
me
that
we
just
had
those
printed
one
time
we
could
save
them
up.
In
other
words,
if
we
came
to
the
meeting
and
had
a
principal
use
table
beside
us,
we
could
refer
to
it
and
then
turn
it
back
in
at
the
end
of
the
meeting.
So
we
didn't
have
to
print
them
each
single
time,
but
these
color
pages
are
I'm
sure,
very
expensive.
The
paper
is
thick
and.
A
O
Please
make
it
mobile
device
friendly
sure
I've
got
laptops
and
pcs
all
day,
but
I
can
do
about
90
percent
of
my
life
on
this
thing
right
here,
and
would
it
be
possible
for
larger
packets
to
get
it
for
any
copy
anyway,
for
particularly
busy
say
that
again
for
larger
packets?
Can
we
kind
of
make
it
an
hour
request
like.
H
If
there's
a
particular
item
that
you
want
a
hard
copy
of
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
us,
and
we
can,
we
can
make
copies
and
provide
you
with
copies
and
you
can
come
and
pick
them
up
or
we
can
get
them
to
you.
But
I
mean
if
that,
if
that
works
for
commission
members.
O
B
O
H
F
I
I
prefer
paper
that
I
can
live
with
online
so
in
the
interest
of
saving
the
city
budget
because
we're
a
big
hole
in
the
budget.
Yes,
online.
D
Mr
parker,
mr
kirkpatrick,
mr
beasley
and
mr
electronics,
the
middle
and
mr
black
will
get
you
a
hard
copy
and
you
know
any
at
will.
We
can
always
print
for
you
all
and
then
we'll
have
a
principal
use
table
rather
than
print
it
for
each
item,
we'll
just
kind
of
we'll
put
it
at
the
front
of
the
agenda.
So
it'll
just
be
printed
out
once
or
we
put
out
forward
once
and
then
reference
it
in
the
ubl
just
to
save
paper
for
the
hard
copy
prints.
H
Thanks
for
trying
this
method
and
and
if
it
doesn't
work,
we'll
we'll
we'll
make
adjustments,
but
thank
you
I'm
just
going
to
go
on
to
the
next
item
parker.
So
the
there
was
a
question
about
the
local
historic
overlay
district
amendment
that
will
be
going
to
the
city
council
for
a
public
hearing
on
august
16th.
H
Next,
in
terms
of
new
business,
there
is
a
discussion
about
public
meeting
versus
public
hearing
and
also.
M
H
As
I
guess
I'll
I'll
just
kind
of
start,
the
conversation
I'm
happy
to
hear
from
commission
members.
You
know
my
understanding
is
that
it's
been
the
preference
of
the
commission
to
hear
public
comments
that
it
is.
H
Advise
folks,
if
they're
interested
in
providing
public
comment
to,
let
us
know
to
let
staff
know
ahead
of
time.
You
know
some.
There
have
been
some
cases
where
comments
have
come
in
up
until
you
know
the
meeting
time,
and
I
know
that
that
has
been
you
know
problematic,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
that
all
of
the
commission
members
have
the
enough
time
to
review
all
of
the
materials
and
also
public
comments.
So
there
has
been
some
discussion
about
having
a
cut
off
to
the
public
comments
period
where
we
would.
H
You
know,
if
that's
the
pleasure
of
the
commission,
we
would
you
know
advertise
that
in
our
correspondence
so
that
it
was
clear.
H
But
we
brought
this
topic
up
because
we
you
know,
given
the
cases
that
we've
had
recently,
we
wanted
to
just
have
an
open
conversation
with
the
commission
members
and
and
hear
you
know
your
input
on
what
your
your
feelings
are
and
make
sure
that
we're
moving
its
staff
is
moving
in
the
right
direction.
A
Well,
I
will
say
that
I
have
saw
a
great
deal
about
what
mr
black
said
a
couple
of
meetings
ago,
that
we
don't
have
to
have
this
open
public
meeting
me
and
hear
comments.
A
I've
thought
about
that
a
lot
and,
like
this
gentleman
said
tonight,
what's
the
point
of
us
coming
if
you're
not
going
to
hear
us-
and
I
think
we
do
seriously
listen
to
the
people,
but
we
normally
go
with
the
staff
recommendation.
F
What
what
good
is
it
for
the
public
to
come
and
make
a
comment?
I'll
answer
that
question?
Mr
parker,
this
is
a
public
meeting,
not
a
public
hearing.
The
city
council
meeting
is
the
public
hearing
now
you're.
Absolutely.
My
contention
has
always
been
that
you
know
tac
when
these
commissions
meet
or
when
these
groups
get
together.
They
don't
have
public
comments
coming
in.
They
they
make
their
decisions
based
on
the
information
that
they
can
see.
F
We
make
our
hopefully
make
our
decisions
based
on
what
we've
read
and
gotten
from
the
staff.
The
only
reason
that
the
public
you
know
is
there
as
far
as
I'm
concerned
is,
if
I
have
a
question
that
I
want
to
pose,
I
want
to
glean
some
information
from
the
public.
I
have
the.
I
have
the
ability
to
ask
a
question
and
you
know
get
there,
but
that's
that's
why
they
would
be
here
only
to
help
us
gather
some
additional
information,
but
if
they
want
public
hearing
they
have
that
with
city
council.
That's
right!
F
I
The
night
that
what's
his
name
was
here.
F
It
said
it's
a
public
meeting,
not
a
public
hearing.
He
agreed.
He
was
pretty
adamant
about
that.
Now.
The
public
has
a
right
to
speak
to
the
city
council
in
a
public
hearing.
If
they
want
to
be
here,
we
let
them
know
that
there's
a
public
meeting
going
on
if
they
show
up-
and
perhaps
I
will
question
them-
james-
wants
a
question.
You
want
to
question
them,
then
fine.
If
we
don't
want
to
question
them.
F
J
Does
it
feel,
what's
your
request
and
and
if
it
does,
then
the
answer
is
yes,
and
if
it
doesn't,
then
there
may
be
stimulating
circumstances
for
somebody
that
doesn't
that
doesn't
make
it
fit
it's
a
different
staff.
It
doesn't
have
a
job.
How
many
do
you
do
an
outstanding
job
and
I
think
I
would
say,
probably
97
of
the
time
yeah.
I
Mr
beasley,
I
know
you're
new,
but
I
I
do
agree
somewhat
with
some.
O
D
D
We
made
special
signs
to
notice
the
public
when
we
posted
the
properties,
so
I
just
want
to
kind
of
bring
some
of
the
logistical
components
to
what
I'm
hearing
and
I
want
to
make
sure
I
get
the
correct
direction
going
forward,
so
we
have
increased
the
radius.
We
are
sending
letters.
This
can
involve
anywhere
from
five
letters
to
a
couple
hundred,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
that
the
residents
of
burlington
are
made
aware
of
your
public
meeting.
D
I
will
anecdotally
suggest
that
a
lot
of
the
comments
you're
hearing
here
from
the
public,
I
think
we've
had
a
lot
of
success
with
implementing.
Maybe
we
have
to
think
about
strategies
of
having
the
maximum
amount
of
time
that
someone
can
address
the
commission,
but
I
would
I
would
suggest
that
much
of
the
public
comment
provided
here
does
benefit
city
council.
D
It
does
also
help
those
prepare
for
the
republic
hearing
when
council
does
take
action
and
my
own
professional
experience
in
the
planning
department
is
that
an
opportunity
to
be
given
wholeheartedly
to
the
public
to
speak
on
any
item?
That's
before
the
commission,
the
plan
is
the
only
commission.
It's
not
an
official
public
hearing
you're
correct,
but
I
would
I
would
encourage
the
path
that
we're
going
on
and
I
think
we
can
remedy
some
of
the
back
and
forth
that
might
have
been
occurring
in
some
of
our
meetings.
D
We
have
to
give
ourselves
a
break,
also
we're
now
in
person.
You
know,
we've
been
doing
a
lot
of
our
meetings
on
zoom.
I
know
the
board
of
dresses
wasn't
even
person
but
a
different
different
board.
So
maybe
it's
a
matter.
D
So
with
that
being
said,
if
that
is
the
change,
I
would
greatly
appreciate
that
so
that
we
can
prepare
for
our
august
meeting
and
our
strategy.
If
I
need
to
let
the
streets
division,
know
about
no
longer
having
to
post
properties
and
to
change
our
letters
to
change
the
verbiage
so
that
citizens
are
coming
here
and
it
will
be
confusing
to
them
that
they
are
maybe
asked
to
participate
or
ask
a
question.
I
think
it's
it's
a
lot
to
ask
of.
We.
D
We
have
a
lot
of
challenges,
just
making
sure
our
messaging
is
correct
to
our
citizenry
and
for
us
to
have
that
it
could
be
confusing
if
somewhere
to
come
here
expecting
to
address
the
commission,
but
not
have
been
asked
to
speak
on
the
item.
I
think
I
think
it
could
be
confusing,
so
I
just
encourage
you
all
give
some
direction
for
jamie
and
myself.
F
To
move
forward
with
well
once
again,
everything
we're
saying
reflects
the
udo.
Now
you
know
that
was
agreed
upon
voted
on
worked
on.
My
suggestion
is
change.
The
idea,
if
you
want
to
make
this
a
public
hearing,
then
change
the
u.d.o,
a
public
hearing,
it's
already
a
public
meeting.
If
you
want
to
have
a
public
hearing
here,
if
you
want
to
open
it
up,
then
change
the
udo
to
reflect
that,
because
you're
sending
me
a
mixed
signal
now
you're
like
here's,
the
udo.
F
F
F
F
H
Just
was
curious
because
I
don't
think
I
was
part
of
a
discussion
when
it
occurred.
But
what
was
the
commission's
reasoning
to
increase
the
notification
from
100
to
300.
H
F
The
posting
of
properties
to
the
people
who
are
being
affected
by
a
zoning
change
to
have
notifications
that
they
can
go
to
city
council
during
the
time
of
the
public
hearing.
H
Yeah
for
the
for
the
public
meeting,
there
was
the
determination
that
I
guess
it
was
last
year.
It
was
about
a
year
ago.
F
To
post
the
properties
yeah,
we
did
not
feel
like
enough.
People
were
getting
notified
of
changes
in
their
neighborhood,
and
so
we
asked
to
increase
that
area
so
that
those
people
could
go
and
be
heard
in
front
of
city
council.
A
J
Public
comment
is,
is
a
good
thing
and
there's
problem
in
some
times
where
we
sent
some
things
back,
and
some
folks
wouldn't
have
some
more
conversation
privately
by
being
able
to
talk
here,
something
kind
of
torn
a
little
bit,
but
also
kind
of
wholeheartedly,
mr
black,
in
that
I'm
not
looking
to
silence
anyone's
voice
by
any
stretch
of
imagination,
but
by
the
by
the
awareness
that
we
put
out
to
300
feet,
which
I
think
is
a
great
thing
you
can.
I
think
it's
incumbent
upon
us
as
we
sit.
A
Here
as
the
designated
citizens
to
serve
on
this
board
to
reap
the
temperature
of
the
room,
if
there's
40
people
out
here
sitting
something
stinks
and
it's
our
job,
I
think
to
make
sure
that
to
read
the
temperature
we
had
140.
F
F
O
D
D
This
commission
asked
us
to
ask
council
to
increase
that
to
400
foot
so
and
we
weren't
noticing
the
properties,
because
the
public,
a
public
hearing
by
statutes,
requires
a
minimum
of
the
budding
properties
we
noticed
as
well
as
posting
on
the
property,
so
we've
taken
that
lead
of
the
public
hearing,
which
is
a
different
type
of
meeting.
The
public
meeting
follows
that
for
consistency.
D
So
the
city
council,
public
hearing,
has
been
posted
and
has
noticed
a
300
foot
radius
and
we've
adopted
that
as
a
policy
for
our
plan,
the
zoning
commission
to
kind
of
bring
up
to
light,
the
the
prior
approach
was
noticing
just
adjacent
horror,
budding
properties
and
the
udo
speaks
to
the
public
meeting
and
it
does
highlight
the
public
hearing
and
how
the
public
hearings.
D
O
A
Why
why
make
that
change
now
after,
however
long
that
being
well,
that's
what
we're
talking
about
effective!
That's,
why
we're
talking
about
it,
and
I
don't
think
we're
going
to
make
a
motion
and
vote
tonight
we're
just
we're
just
chatting
about
it
to
see
what
what
the
staff
I
mean.
They
asked
us
and
we're
telling
them.
A
I
I
feel
obligated
to
ask
if
anyone
in
the
room
has
something
to
say,
but
I
agree,
mr
black
is
is
not
required
and
should
we
keep
keep
doing
it?
Should
we
keep
doing
it
and.
A
H
Just
listening
to
you,
I
think
that
you
know
I
think,
to
to
further
conrad's
comments
earlier.
I
think
that
you
know
staff
does
understand
the
where
you're
coming
from
in
terms
of
you
know
the
in
some.
H
There's
been
an
excessive
amount
of
emails
and
and
phone
calls,
and
I
can
definitely
see
that
there
would
be
a
benefit
to
help
from
our
perspective,
even
from
staff's
perspective,
so
that
we
can,
we
can
have
a
cut
off
time
to
get
you
the
information
you
know
in
an
efficient,
effective
manner,
so
I
could
definitely
see
where
we
could
come
up
with
some
protocols
dealing
with
the
public
comment
and
and
limiting
the
public
comment
to
a
certain
time
period
before
the
hearing
or
not
the
hearing
the
meeting,
I
think
city
council
does
the
same
thing,
but
I
am
a
little
concerned
about
you
know
just
from
a
perception
perspective,
if
you
know,
if
no
one
shows
up
on
online
you're,
obviously
not
going
to
take
public
comment,
but
if
there's
40
people
in
the
audience
on
a
particular
matter,
then
you
know
what
the
commission
want
to
hear
from
the
folks.
H
For
that
particular
case
and
just
being
fair
and
consistent
across
the
board.
That's
that's
my
concern
in
terms
of
the
the
perception
of
leaving
the
meeting
and
hearing
the
items.
H
The
you
know,
we
don't
have
any
attorneys
here,
but
I'm
not
in
the
training,
but
process
and
procedure
is
the
first
thing
that's
going
to
be
picked
apart
from
from
a
from
an
applicant
or
a
contentious
property
owner.
So
we
just
want
you
know
from
staff's
perspective.
We
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
that
we
are
understanding.
H
F
The
udo
yeah
and
then
we
need
to
come
up
with
procedures,
because
let's
say
that
we
agreed
that
it's
going
to
be
a
public
hearing
and
we
give
somebody
three
minutes
to
talk
and
you
have
10
minutes
to
speak.
You
have
10.
People
speak
three
minutes
against
something,
then
the
person
who's
presented.
Does
that
give
him
30
minutes
to
rebut
actually
well,
but
you
gave
you
gave
his
opposition
30
minutes
or
her
opposition
30
minutes.
So
does
she
or
he
had
the
equal
time
to
rebuke
you.
F
That
we
would
probably
have
to
look
into
and
all
and
all
I'm
saying
is
just
fix
the
udo
if
you
want
it
to
be
a
public
hearing.
It's
fine
with
me
no
problem
with
that,
but
that's
not
what
that's
not
what
the
eda
says
so
make
it
compatible
with
what
you
want
and
make
the
change.
If
you
don't
like
the
procedure,
change
the
procedure.
F
H
So
so
we
started
talking
about
the
airbnb
short
term
rentals
and
the
reason
we
brought
it
up
is
there's
a
lot
of
case
law
on
this
item.
So
it's
not
as
if
we
could
just
come
up
with
some
yeah
so
and
even
and
we
provided
you
with
a
recent
ordinance
and
discussion
from
unc
school
of
government
dealing
with
wilmington,
because
there's
been
a
recent
appeal
according
to
appeals
that
dealt
specifically
with
wilmington's
ordinance.
H
So
it's
a
it's
a
a
matter
that
involves
legal
review,
whether
or
not
it's
something
that
we
can
even
particularly
regulate
and
there's
a
lot
of
different
things
associated
with
that.
So
we
just
wanted
to
bring
it
to
your
attention
because
it's
come
up
a
couple
of
times
in
terms
of
it's
something
that
you
know.
You
want
staff
and
city
council
to
consider
so
we're
doing
that
we're
starting
the
due
diligence.
H
F
Renting
out
a
house
you're,
you
know
you're
collecting
rent.
That
seems
like
a
commercial
application
to
a
residential
area.
I
know
you're
talking
about
vacation
and
I
know
that
they're,
you
know,
especially
around
lakes
and
stuff.
This
is
very
epic,
but
I've
often
come
in
my
own
mind
curious.
How
does
how
does
one
differentiate
a
commercial
use
of
that
house
versus
a
residential
if
you're
collecting
money
for
rent
I
mean
for
for
that?
But
anyway,
that's
something
to
look
into
yes,
so
you
know
just
wanted
to
be
aware
of
what
were.