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Planning and Zoning Commission - September 26, 2022
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Instead,
we're
going
to
have
a
special
meeting
in
two
weeks
on
September
the
10th
on
October,
the
10th
I'm,
the
one
behind
October
the
10th
and
we'll
vote
at
that
time,
and
if
anybody
else
comes
to
a
meeting
who
didn't
come
tonight,
we'll
let
them
speak
if
they
want
to,
but
we're
going
to
have
to
come
back.
This
is
a
procedural.
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So
our
first
order
of
business
is
to
approve
the
minutes.
From
the
last
two
meetings
we
had
a
meeting
on
July
the
11th,
which
is
a
special
call
meeting
and
another
on
July.
The
25th
most
minutes
were
in
your
packets,
I
hope
everybody
read
them
most
of
them
in
relation
to
approved.
You'll
have
a
second
second
Mr
Beasley.
Second,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye,
any
opposed
all
right.
The
minutes
are
approved.
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The
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
a
reselling
request:
Mr
Darren
Lucas
application
to
present
a
request
to
rezone
property
for
medium
density,
residential
MDR
to
General
business.
Remember
to
use
that's
gblu
from
his
located
at
the
Terminus
of
Weitzel
Drive
West
of
the
intersection
of
Whitesell
drive
and
Huffman
Mill
Road,
addressed
as
zero
Whitesville,
Drive
Whitesville
drive
and
consisting.
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Awesome
Brown
I'll
be
representing
Lucas
construction,
as
I
have
done
in
the
past.
Thank
you.
Mr
Brown
go
ahead.
Okay
for
the
record.
My
name
is
Lawson
Brown
I'm,
a
practice
at
home
with
the
runnable
law
firm
at
522,
South,
Lexington
Avenue,
and
it's
my
pleasure
to
be
back
in
front
of
you
and
it's
particularly
my
pleasure
to
be
back
in
front
of
you
with
a
positive
staff
recommendation
on
this
particular
request.
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This
commission
recommended
it
to
the
council
and
the
council
passed.
The
zoning.
This
particular
parcel,
as
you
can
see,
is
a
contiguous
to
an
existing
apartment
complex
to
the
West.
That's
been
there
for
a
number
of
years,
and
this
particular
parcel
was
owned
by
Mrs
Newton
Sam
Newton's,
with
a
Mr
Newton.
After
signing
his
contract
passed
away
several
weeks
ago,
but
I'm
here,
representing
not
only
Baron
Lucas
and
his
name
was
company,
but
also
Mrs
Newton,
who
was
requesting
that
if
he
resigned,
obviously
it
is
consistent
with
the
other
zoning
in
the
immediate
area.
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Frank,
if
you
want
to
come
forward,
we'll
read
your
request:
Mr
Frank
longas
applicant
to
present
a
request
to
rezone
property
from
light
industrial
Li
to
mixed
use,
limited
use
that
would
be
mx-l-u.
Property
is
located
north
of
the
intersection
of
Interstate
40
and
Maple
Avenue
addressed
as
2444
Maple
Avenue
and
consisting
of
Alamance
County
tax
identification.
Number
132-806,
Mr.
F
The
money
who
he
is
has
to
be
posted
for
public
hearing
for
the
city
council
that
that's
correct,
so
I
think
you
know
if
this
doesn't
mean
about
the
posting
note
just
for
the
action
without
me,
you
could
take
action
tonight
as
a
recognition
of
one
another.
I
am
not
going
to
ask
you
to
do
that.
I!
Will
let
you
do
your
own
policies
board
to
make
that
decision,
but
we're
here
tonight
on
behalf
of
the
applicant,
the
present
location
of
those
properties
of
244
Maple
Avenue.
F
It
consists
of
5.24
Acres,
which
is
a
fairly
large
track
if
you're
familiar
with
the
property
started
out
a
number
of
years
ago.
It
was
a
Howard
Johnson's
Motel,
since
that
time
has
changed
since
probably
three
times,
and
it's
still
used
as
a
motel
in
Canada
with
this
body.
The
current
owner
experience
of
some
vacancy
laws
due
to
covet-
and
it's
never
come
back
to
the
full
one
active
position
in
the
community
that
this
hotel
had
in
the
past
prior
to
code,
but
still
active
still
in
you
still
rinse
properties
on
a
daily
basis.
F
However,
they
were
approached
in
Candor
by
group
out
of
Federal
North
Carolina,
so
it's
called
good
home
to
Federal.
They
have
experience
in
taking
existing
Motel
properties
and
converting
them
into
multi-family
projects.
They
try
to
Market
their
properties
on
an
annual
level
basis
on
a
lease
that
Target
Market
is
millennials.
F
Those
people
as
a
whole
do
not
want
a
fancy.
Apartments
do
not
want
expensive
apartments.
At
the
same
time,
this
company
does
not
try
to
Target
low
income
properties.
They
try
to
have
market
and
Rental
values
full
of
their
properties.
I.
Think
the
council
seated,
the
staff
provide
you
copies
of
some
of
their
prior
conversions.
What
they
propose
here
is
convert
the
existing
Motel
into
135
multi-units.
Most
of
those
units
would
be
one
of
two
bedrooms
facility
on
the
5.24
acres
has
over
200
parking
spaces.
F
C
F
In
case,
something
happened
in
the
future
that
this
project
we
can
go
through,
that
is,
existing
Hotel,
slash,
Motel
use
would
be
familiar
and
the
multi-districted
as
you're,
probably
aware
of
this
property,
is
now
Zone.
Light.
Industrial
and
light
industrial
does
commit
a
hotel,
motel
used,
but
it
doesn't
permit
both
the
family
multi-family
uses
in
Burlington.
F
The
most
that
you
choose
from
would
be
high
density,
residential
or
the.
What
we're
reversing
in
multi-districts,
the
multi-district
with
the
limited
uses,
gives
us
the
opportunity
to
convert
this
to
multi-family
and
not
have
an
issue
that
would
be
in
the
HD
classification
because
of
the
250
foot,
limited
linear
footage
requirement
under
the
current
zoning
code
under
the
residential
section.
F
So
we
desire
to
have
a
multi-district.
We
have
limitations
that
it
can
only
be
used
basically
for
hotel,
motel
use,
multi-family
use
and
for
City
dining
in
restaurant,
and
the
reason
for
that
last
use
is
because
the
facility
here
hasn't
passed
and
does
have
a
fairly
large
restaurant
area
of
the
kitchen
that
hasn't
been
used
for
several
years.
But
the
developer
sees
that
as
an
opportunity
to
make
that
powerful
as
a
overall
theme
for
this
progress.
F
Besides
this
multi-family,
the
properties
you
can
see
is
located
near
the
interstate
and
it's
part
of
the
Burlington,
what
I
call
Interstate
Colorado
commercial
area,
which
girlsness
indicated
it
wants
to
make
improvements
on
Maple
Avenue.
We
feel
like
that
this
particular
zoning
request
fits
within
that
plan
for
the
city.
It's
also
compatible
with
all
the
uses
next
door.
F
The
properties
you
can
see
is
joined
by
either
light
industrial
or
other
uses,
but
the
key
factor
here
I
believe,
is
that
this
would
be
an
attractive
zoning
that
allow
for
multi-family
address
to
Millennials,
provide
housing
for
that
market.
That's
not
available
in
Burlington
at
this
point
in
time,
according
to
the
statistics
of
the
developer,
and
feels
like
that,
this
is
a
good
product.
The
property
is
a
good
product,
it's
continuously
joining
properties
that
are
compatible
and
it
fits
within
the
total
comprehensive
plan
in
the
City
of
Burlington
and
I
point
out
that.
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G
Question,
do
you
have
an
idea
what
the
events
would
be
based?
Basically
market
prices,
I,
don't
know
that
they
don't
know
that.
Yet
they
have
statistical
information
that
the
Millennials
that
they
are
trying
to
Target
for
this
property,
who
would
rent
the
property
each
department
on
an
annual
basis
that
that
income
level
is
45
000
to
120
000
per
person?
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F
G
F
That
no
that's
not
their
model
and
they
do
not
targeted
properties
for
low
income,
as
I
say,
they're
targeting
right
now
is
Millennials,
who
have
an
income
about
45,
920,
000
Plus,
now
most
of
the
Millennials
that
they
are
targeting.
Don't
won't
change
the
apartment,
a
great
little
expense
with
it,
a
pet
area
which
you
can
walk
your
dog,
but
they
do
want.
You
know
a
pool,
they
want
an
excise
area
and
they
want
to
have
a
meeting
area
where
they
can
have
social
Gatherings.
F
This
property
allows
that
to
be
done
in
currently
in
the
structures
disease
it
would
work,
they
would
just
be
converting
motel
rooms,
for
example,
take
two
motel
rooms
and
convert
it
to
one
Apartments
and
those
pictures
that
they
have
from
the
other
projects.
I've
done
and
I
have
those
if
you'd
like
to
see
them
we'll
be
glad
to
pass
those
out
too.
I
Are
there
any
other
questions
from
the
commission?
Yes,
back
on
questioning
the
company
good
homes,
how
long
they've
been
in
business
and
how
many
other
successful
communities
have
they
launched
and
are
actually
going
to
bring
him
well.
I
can't
answer
that,
because
I
didn't
ask
them
those
questions.
I
just
asked
them
to
find
out
about.
F
F
I
Make
it
look
really
good
and
then
make
a
live
in
and
of
itself
is
already
a
problem.
If
you
asking
the
law
enforcement
officer
in
the
city
of
Oregon,
County,
Festival
I
think
this
is
better
than
the
existence
correct.
Well,
the
people
as
I
understand
have
the
financial
where
we
call
to
do
a
good
project.
Have.
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J
B
B
C
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E
B
B
K
Present
chairman
Parker,
my
name
is
Paul
Koontz
I'm,
an
attorney
with
the
hotel,
Phoenix
Motel.
Yes,
we're
all
at
receiver
with
me
as
well.
He
was
originally
on
the
list
because
he
was
the
engineer
doing
a
lot
of
work
with
staff
as
they
worked
through
this
zoning
or
Reason,
and
this
parcel
as
you
grateful
state,
is
split
zone
right
now.
It's
it's
currently
zoned
medium
industrial
and
medium
density,
residential
depending
on
the
tracks.
K
L
Oh
I
do
have
some
handouts
here,
so
I'll
just
say
this
to
your
name
again
and
more.
Your
excuse
me
Ryan
Fraser
senior.
Vice
president
with
vision,
real
estate
partners
where's
that
located,
that
is
in
Mountain,
Lakes,
New
Jersey,
okay
I
did
send
this
presentation
along
I'm,
not
sure.
If
that
can
be
pulled
up.
If
not
not
a
problem,
I
can
just.
L
Say
sorry,
oh
crap,
what's
up
further
away
so
as
Paul
said
and
I'll
keep
this
brief?
I
did
just
want
to
introduce
the
firm
Vision
real
estate.
Partners
again
my
name
is
Ryan
Fraser
I
run
our
investments.
Team
vision
is
an
owner
operator
developer
again
we're
based
in
Mountain
Lakes
New
Jersey,
which
is
about
20
miles
outside
of
New
York
City.
We
have
about
6
million
square
feet
under
management
to
that
ownership
and
management.
Today,
and
that's
kind
of
a
mix
of
commercial
Class,
A
office,
retail
and
industrial
space.
L
L
You
know
very
kind
of
large-scale
credit,
Fortune
500,
even
Fortune
50
type
organizations
that
we've
been
able
to
execute
on
behalf
and
complete
projects
for
I'll
mention
Township
of
Saddlebrook
in
the
middle
there,
their
Crest
we're
completing
there
administrative
build
a
suit,
a
70
000
square
foot
project
on
behalf
of
the
township.
So
we
work
very
closely
with
our
townships,
our
tenants
and
our
financial
partners
to
deliver.
You
know:
Class
A
Products
to
the
market.
I'll
briefly
touch
on.
L
If
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
just
one
kind
of
case
study
and
then
I'll
turn
it
over.
But
this
is
a
project
that
we
worked
on
in
Whippany
New
Jersey,
200,
Acre
Site.
It
previously
housed
Alcatel
Lucin,
a
1.5
million
square
foot
facility
for
Alcatel
Lucent
old
Antiquated
office
space
that
was
built
in
the
60s
70s
and
80s.
We
took
that
older
facility.
We
demolished
a
million
square
feet.
We
took
the
remaining
half
a
million
square
feet
and
added
another
200
000
square
feet.
L
L
We
took
a
portion
of
the
acreage
and
constructed
ground
up
a
200
000
square
foot
investment
headquarters
for
Metlife
Financial
40
of
metlife's
revenue
is
generated
out
of
that
building,
so
obviously
a
very
important
facility
for
the
company,
and
we
take
a
lot
of
Pride
humbly,
but
take
a
lot
of
pride
in
the
fact
that
we
were
able
to
deliver.
You
know
those
two
projects
that
were
very
successful
for
attendance
and,
obviously,
even
as
you
know,
successful
for
this
town,
so
I'm
here
to
answer
any
questions.
I
am.
E
E
So
expanding
a
little
bit
more
on
what
Paul
was
talking
about
earlier,
the
assemblage
of
parcels.
There
are
four
Parcels
that
are
already
sewn
medium
industrial
to
our
split
zone
between
leading
the
industrial
meeting
residential
and
then
the
final
two
are
fully
in
the
medium
density
residential.
So.
E
This
area
made
sense
for
11
degrees,
free
zoning
to
take
some
uses
completely
off
the
table
in
our
application.
We
are
proposing
to
take
out
the
following:
10
uses,
including
in
tenant
collection,
major
and
minor
Passenger
Terminal
for
rail
of
us,
Telecom,
Tower,
minor
or
concealed
automotive
repair
and
servicing
Park
and
Ride
facility,
Automotive,
Towing
and
storage
lot,
fuel
oil
bottle
gas,
distributor,
gas,
energy
conversion
and
wind
energy
conversion.
K
Just
if
you're
looking
at
the
map
they're
just
to
the
left
of
this
location,
and
we
just
felt
like
we
wanted
to
have
a
location
that
was
convenient
for
everybody
in
the
neighborhood
to
be
able
to
come
and
lead
the
group
and
talk
one-on-one
with
that
group
and
we're
having
it
in
the
same
place
as
the
in
the
fellowship
hall,
where
the
voting
precinctives
just
to
make
it
easy
and
accessible
by
everybody.
So
but
we're
open
answering
any
questions
that
you
have.
K
K
B
B
K
Are
all
of
these
things
being
considered,
or
can
you
further
cut
this
down
so
that
I
mean
you
could
put
a
beauty
shop
out
there
post
office,
yeah
micro,
Brewery
I
mean
well
that's
one
of
the
reasons
we're
kind
of
here.
For
that
conversation
is
we
took
the
first
swipe
at
it
in
terms
of
with
staff
to
try
to
cut
it
down.
K
B
N
N
N
B
N
K
Our
approach
to
it
was
that
we
had,
we
had
run
through
staff
and
cut
it
down,
and
then
we
thought
that
it
would
be
better
to
Performance
to
get
your
input
in
terms
of
other
other
items
that
are
on
the
list,
so
that
then,
when
we
go
to
the
neighborhood,
we
have
a
smaller
list.
If
there
are
things
that
need
to
to
come
out
of
you,
you
know
the
reality
is,
will
there
be
a
post
office?
There
I
would
say
that's
extremely
unlikely.
K
K
I
I
J
N
H
K
We're
limiting
the
uses
so
so
right
now,
a
good
portion
of
the
property
is
Zone,
medium
industrial.
So
all
the
potential
uses
in
medium
industrial
will
be
allowed
on
those
sites,
and
so
what
we've
tried
to
do
is
cut
those
that
really
broad
list.
I
know
we
left
a
lot
of
them
on
there,
but
we've
already
taken
a
lot
of
them
off
and
we've
tried
to
cut
that
down
to
limit
the
use.
It
would
be
different
if
it
was
on
all
residential
and
we
would
come
in
and
completely
changing
the
nature
of
the
zoning.
H
L
So
there
are
some
some
examples
of
industrial
developments
if
I
didn't
touch
on
those.
But
if
you
flip
to
the
back
of
the
pages,
there
are
some
examples
and
I
think.
Ultimately,
as
Paul
said,
we
would
want
to
comply
with
the
zone
and
and
what
does
that
mean?
That
ultimately
means
an
industrial,
modern,
Industrial,
Development
and
we'll
discuss
that
in
detail.
Obviously,
at
the
neighborhood
meeting,
because
that.
B
L
K
Or
something
like
that,
I
think
that
would
be
a
great
tool
for
these
folks
to
know
where
things
are
going
to
be,
because
if
you
have
your
buildings
up
towards
the
front
of
that
property,
it
doesn't
bother
their
residential
side
of
things
nearly
as
much.
But
if
the
buildings
are
in
the
back
and
no
one
knows
what
the
buffer
is.
K
A
N
K
Say
the
24th,
that's
right:
okay,
yep
I
didn't
mean
to
interrupt
the
motion,
but
I
kind
of
did
all
the
comment
was
whatever
you
needed.
The
motion
we'd
like
to
hear
what
the
folks
who
have
come
tonight
say
have
to
say
to
all
of
you,
because
in
the
event
that
they,
if
you
do
continue
with
and
they
can't
come
back
on
the
24th
and
they
would
have
had
a
chance
to
hear
we're
going
to
do
everything
but
vote
on
the
rezone.
B
Vote
on
the
rezoning
on
October,
the
24th-
we
have
a
second,
that's
just
for
this
reason.
Why
yeah?
Just
for
this
one?
Is
there
any
other
comment
about
that?
All
in
favor
of
waiting
until
October
24th
to
vote
on
this
please
say:
hi.
Everybody
opposed
okay,
we'll
vote
on
the
restarting
October
24th,
but
for
right
now,
during
this
meeting,
we
will
ask
anybody
here
who
would
like
to
make
a
comment
about
this
project
to
the
floor
is
open
for
public
companies.
M
You,
my
name,
is
Diane
stalls.
I
live
at
2633
pet
drive.
My
property
backs
up
to
this
property.
I
want
to
point
out
that
the
property,
the
lower
property
in
question,
is
medium
density.
Housing
right
now
and
I
want
to
tell
you
that
I
have
a
civil
engineer
friend
of
mine.
Helped
me
navigate
the
Udo
and
I
can
clarify
for
you
that.
E
M
M
In
my
opinion,
thanks
for
cutting
out
that
eight
but
45
is
a
lot
and
we've
also
studied
the
buffers
for
different
Industries.
I
know
that
it's
a
thousand
feet
for
some
things.
It's
40
feet
for
other
things.
So
we're
well
aware
of
what
that
looks
like
40
feet
is
not
far
and
I
know
that
if
it's
a
certain
type
of
development
you
have
to
plant
so
many
tall
trees
per
100
feet.
You
have
to.
M
Owners
are
a
top
owner.
I
know
that
they're
pieced
well
within
his
rights
to
develop
this
property,
trying
to
understand
that
I
understand
your
jobs
to
make
good
recommendations
for
the
City
Board.
However,
I
will
point
out
that
the
firm
from
New
Jersey
really
doesn't
have
theology,
despite
not
within
developing
the
property.
I
do
have
a
dog
in
this
fight
and
all
these
people
do.
This
is
our
home,
where
we
have
lived
for
I've
lived
in
my
house
for
35
years.
C
M
C
M
They're
on
the
other
side
of
the
tree
line,
I'm,
okay
with
that
I
can't
see
it.
But
if
you
back
up
40
feet
from
my
property,
are
there
are
there
going
to
be
buildings
built?
There
are
y'all,
taking
notes
are,
are
there
going
to
just
be?
Are
there
just
gonna
be
buildings
in
there
and
then
they're
going
to
ask
tenants
to
come
in
or
do
they
already
have
tenants
in
mind?
M
M
M
C
B
M
B
K
F
Your
own
we're
our
neighborhood
and
to
me
it's
and
I,
you
know
we
live
up
against
the
department,
but
we've
got
a
whole.
There
are
just
as
many
people
on
our
street
that
don't
live
up
against
that
are
going
to
be
affected
by
what
happens
here.
Yes,
and
it's
kind
of
a
slight
to
them
that
I
know
what
the
law
is,
what
the
regulations
are.
K
A
Just
be
a
common
courtesy
thing
if
the
whole
Community
is
involved
in
this,
not
just
west
side,
were
there
notice
that
sent
to
the
east
side
of
the
street
I'm
looking
to
see
that
we
have
so
we
we
send
notices
to
properties
that
are
within
300
feet.
So
if,
if
they're
within
300
feet,
which
I
can't
tell
right
now.
K
K
A
A
F
A
To
me,
which,
which
it's
also
not
a
requirement,
that
the
applicant's
willing
to
have
a
public
meeting
to
solicit
the
input
of
a
neighborhood
so
they'll
be
reaching
out,
and
they
can.
You
can
reach
out
to
them
to
see
if
they
can
extend
their
notification
area
because
most
likely
they're
using
that
300
foot
list
as
well.
Yes,
well,
the
letter
that
came
from
them
did
with
her
300
things.
It.
J
Yes,
sir
I
am
David
Brown
I
live
in
2805
Cape
Drive
Tammy,
my
wife.
We
have
been
there
28
years.
We
also
run
Brown's
Marine
across
the
street
in
the
city
limits,
but
as
soon
as
I
wear
taxpayers
in
Burlington
and
County
taxpayers,
two
locations
been
here
all
my
life.
My
dad
was
here
around
a
place
on
Main
Street
I.
Don't
see
the
logic
really
with
some
of
the
issue
here
with
the
you're.
J
Us
off
in
between
our
Creek,
our
Creek
Gum
Creek
and
I'm
gonna
have
a
neighborhood
there
in
the
just
by
itself,
with
an
industrial
area
beside
it,
I
do
understand,
progress
is
going
to
happen
regardless
it's
a
good
thing,
most
of
the
time
to
have
this
type
of
progress
as
you'll
notice,
the
one
property
that
belongs
to
Tad
grand
staff,
the
pastor
under
Hope
Church
is
the
area.
That's
not
zoned
in
the
middle
of
the
Big
Lot
that
looks
like
a
boomerang
or
something
at
the
bottom.
Okay.
Thank
you.
J
B
We
do
it
out
of
courtesy,
like
you
said
the
server
that
we
would
invite
the
neighbors
to
have
a
sit
down
with
the
applicant
to
try
to
Hash
things
out,
as
Mr
Black
has
said.
So.
I
hope
that
when
you
come
back
I'm
Mr
Coons
that
we
can
have
a
a
shorter
list,
a
more
intentional
disk,
rather
than
a
list
with
everything
but
10
things.
L
2561
Cap,
Drive,
Jordan
and
I
purchased
our
property
at
almost
exactly
a
month
ago.
So
I
haven't
been
here
near
as
long
as
many
of
the
residents
and
I
was
just
like
the
words
of
my
concern
to
this
Council
that
this
be
developed
as
good
neighbors.
Obviously,
we
purchased
on
Tech
Drive
for
what
it
is
today,
a
residential
neighborhood,
a
very
quiet
neighborhood
that
backs
up
to
quiet
properties,
totally
not
opposed
to
the
development,
we're
just
looking
for
good
neighbors
that
will
kind
of
keep
it.
L
L
K
B
K
B
Do
what
you
can
on
both
sides
to
come
through
a
compromise
understand
what
each
other's
saying
listen,
you
know
be
good
neighbors
and
let's
talk
it
out,
but
then,
when
you
come
back
to
us
in
the
next
time
you're
here
we
will
make
a
decision
about
the
rezoning
of
that
time.
Then
you
still
have
the
city
council
meeting,
which
is
a
public
here
to
go
to,
and
that
is
required
for
me
and
once
you
go
there,
you
can
have.
B
B
B
A
C
A
Yu-Gi-Oh
currently
has
a
provision
that
accessory
dwelling
units
cannot
exceed
35
percent
of
the
principal
structure
of
the
finished
floor
area
for
the
welding
unit,
the
status
of
making
a
recommendation
to
increase
them
from
35.
Excuse
me
from
35
to
50
time.
So
this
is
the
clip
out
from
what
our
proposal
is,
and
you
can
see
other
B.
That's
the
change
that
we're
proposing
and
the
reason.
A
Just
in
some
backgrounds,
we've
had
some
discussions
with
with
residents
and
property
owners
that
you
know
a
home
that
may
be
800
square
feet
or
less
than
a
thousand
square
feet.
Having
that
35
percent
cap
really
doesn't
provide
enough
square
footage
for
for
a
second
accessory
dwelling
unit.
So
is
that
reviewed
on
the
issue
and
we.
C
A
A
J
C
G
A
Can
be
a
deep,
it
can
be
part
of
a
detached
structure,
so
it
could
be.
If
you
have
a
decaf,
a
detached
garage,
you
could
have
it
on
the
second
floor,
but
it
has
to
be
serviced
by
public
infrastructure.
It
has
to
be
under
the
same
address
it
is
there
are
these
specific
standards
that
you
would
have
to
meet
in
order
to
to
have
a
lawful
except
belonging
in
it,
and
this
provision
is
just
one
for
them
and.
A
B
A
A
How
far
an
outdoor
speaker
can
be
right
now,
the
other
speakers
associated
with
drive-through
restaurants
have
to
be
at
least
50
feet
from
any
lot
line
of
running
a
residential
districts,
and
what
we're
suggesting
is
that
it
be
based
on
the
distance
of
the
actual
structure
itself,
so
it
can
be
closer.
The
speaker
actually
came
closer
to
the
neighboring
Town.
It
can
be.
It
depends
on
where
the
house
is
is
located
so
right
now.
A
A
A
A
I
A
Requirements
that
they
have
too
so
there's
there's,
it
would
be
whatever
they
would
be
a
bound
to
at
that
point
from
the
residential
perspective,
they
might
have
a
buffer
on
the
against
the
commercial
development
as
well.
It's
hard
hard
to
send,
but
what
we're
also
suggesting
too,
is
the
perimeter
buffer
between
the
speaker
and
the
residential
lot
has
to
have
a
fence
or,
and
a
wall
too,
so
that
would
help
to
minimize
any
any
negative
effects.
B
C
C
A
J
A
C
A
J
I
make
a
motion
to
recommend
for
a
little
question:
amen
City
of
Burlington,
as
you
can
find,
the
valid
orders
of
proposed
information
is
based
on
the
facility's
plan
and
that
section
four
land
use
goal.
One
recommendation
of
comprehensive
plan
causation
by
development
warrants
section:
four:
Landings,
billboard,
division;
five,
the
comprehensive
planning
culture,
Insurance
system.
N
N
They
also
made
reference
to
an
article
that
had
been
published
in
a
local
paper
referencing
our
meetings
and
the
fact
that
we
don't
care
what
you
think
to
the
public
and
I
was
kind
of
thinking
more
like
I,
don't
care
what
the
people
think.
It's
probably
the
best
way
to
put
it
and
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
address.
N
N
Now,
maybe
maybe
I
misunderstood
your
body
and
the
affirmative?
That's
what
Chad
said,
but
you
know
all
the
obviously
I
said
that
it
doesn't
matter
thing
about
it.
Is
the
public
can
speak
as
you
saw
tonight,
the
chair
has
the
right
to
go
to
the
public
and
say:
would
you
like
to
speak?
Is
there
anybody
here
that
wants
to
speak,
he's
not
required
to
do
that,
but
he
can
do
that.
N
Well,
I
wouldn't-
and
you
know,
I,
don't
think
that
you
know
if
you're
going
to
open
it
up,
I
would
just
go
to
Tac
meeting
when
the
first
time
something
comes
in
to
the
pre-tac.
Anybody
in
the
public
come
in
and
talk
ask
questions
mull
it
over
when
the
staff
has
their
meetings.
Have
the
public
come
in
mull
it
over?
We.
N
Get
something
done
in
a
year:
people
have
the
the
opportunity.
I
mean
you
have
a
right
to
get
into
a
court.
If
you
don't
have
a
right
to
talk
in
the
middle
of
the
board
and
that's
all
we're
saying
is
yeah
you've
got
it
right.
Mr
Parker
will
give
you
the
exercise
to.
If
you
would
like
to
say
something
you
know
to
do
that,
but
he's
not
required
to
the
idea.
N
This
is
not
a
format
for
them
to
come
practice
to
come
in
here
and
and
spend
20
or
30
minutes
practicing
their
speech
to
go
to
City,
and
that's
all
I'm
saying
we're
not
saying
as
some
as
Charlie
remember
Charles
mentioned,
like
we're
trying
to
take
away
their
rights
to
speak,
we're
not,
they
have
the
right
to
speak.
If
they're
asked
it's
not
a
given
and
we
don't
deny
them,
Mr
Parker
has
always
said,
and
so
you
might
want
to
ask
any
questions.
Anybody
have
any
comments,
so
we
haven't
taken
away
anybody's
rights.
N
N
If
we
need
information,
we
ask,
but
there's
nothing
in
the
UVA
that
says:
hey
come
down
here.
You've
got
your
four
minutes,
something
we
can
give
it's
not
that
we
don't
care
as
it's
common.
The
only
good
thing
about
this
article
is
that
I
saw
that
it
tied
Mr,
Parker
and
James
and
I
together
and
I
thought
that
was
an
honor
for
me.
I
took
it
as
like
a
high
armor
to
be
put
in
the
presence
of
these
two
gentlemen.
N
So
I
just
want
to
kind
of
clear
that
that
up
as
far
as
taking
away
somebody's
right
that
they
didn't
have
we're
not
doing
that-
and
the
other
thing
it
mentioned
is
the
fact
that
that
was
mentioned.
That
I
can't
believe
that
y'all
are
trying
to
give
people
more
notice,
but
then
squelch
in
their
their
writing.
The
Voice,
as
you
can
see
tonight,
it
was
up
to
me.
N
I
could
have
noticed
out
with
a
Skyrock
for
everything
going
planned
in
Zoom
because
there
are,
there
are
people
that
live
in
East
Burlington
that
might
be
old
or
they
may
not
understand
what's
going
on,
but
they
have
children
in
West,
Burlington
or
North
Berlin
or
South
Burlington
that
might
like
to
know
what's
going
on
in
their
parents
or
their
uncle
or
their
aunt's
neighborhood
I
have
no
problem.
I
would
love
to
be
able
to
give
everybody
a
notice
when
I
asked
to
increase
the
the
distance
from
200
to
300
to
400
a
bit
more.
N
These
people
tonight
they're
worried
about.
Maybe
there's
going
to
be
a
five-story
building
in
their
neighborhood.
Well,
you
could
be
a
half
mile
away
and
be
impacted
by
that
building.
So
I
you
know
trying
to
limit
the
notification.
No
I
wish.
We
could
notify
everyone
But
there
again.
If
you
want
40
people
to
speak
to
Tac.
If
you
want
40
people
come
in
and
you
can
go
to
your
staff
meetings.