►
A
So
good
evening,
I'm
Friday
I
want
to
welcome
you
to
this
joint
meeting
between
the
board
of
County
Commissioners
and
the
capital
County
Board
of
Education
we'd
like
to
start
with
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance.
A
A
A
I
have
a
new
public
service
announcements
so
before
we
begin,
I
just
want
to
thank
the
board
of
education
for
joining
us
tonight
to
have
a
discussion
about
the
performance
of
their
budget.
I
think
that
you
know
the
the
format
tonight.
You
know
it's
just
a
discussion
about
moving
forward.
A
I
think
that
last
spring,
when
the
Board
of
Education
made
their
budget
request
caught
a
few
of
us
by
surprise,
we
had
not
seen
a
request
like
that
in
the
past
and
had
three
new
Commissioners
who
certainly
caught
them
by
surprise
and
started
some
discussions
about
the
board
of
education
budget
and
just
trying
to
make
sure
that
we're
spending
our
money,
just
like
we
do
our
own
as
effectively
and
as
efficiently
as
we
can,
and
so
we
have
been
kicking
around
the
idea
of
a
I
hate
to
call
it
a
performance
audit,
because
it's
makes
it
sound
like
something.
A
A
You
know
it's
more
of
a
an
evaluation
of
you
know
things
that
you
do
just
to
make
sure
you're
doing
them
as
best
you
can
and
we've
had
some
discussions
with
the
superintendent
during
the
budget
process
and
kicking
it
around
so
finally,
formalized
and
got
two
groups
together,
which
is
not
an
easy
task.
I
will
admit
so
I
want
to.
Thank
you
all
and
this
time
Madam
president.
Would
you
like
to
say
anything.
C
Sure,
thank
you.
Mr
President
I
would
like
to
thank
those
that
came
tonight
to
listen
to
and
hear
our
discussion
of
a
having
a
potential
procurement
audit
done
of
the
school
system
and
I
agree
with
the
president
and
what
he
has
said.
Tonight's
discussion
should
be
pretty
pretty
good
for
the
school
system
and
should
help
the
community
in
understanding
what
the
school
system
does
to
come
up
with
their
budget
and
should
support
what
we
have
been
doing
in
the
past.
A
Yeah
I
just
want
to
reiterate:
you
know
this
is
just
a
discussion
and,
as
the
president
said,
you
know
we're
just
trying
to
figure
out
the
best
path
forward
and
making
sure
we're
spending
our
dollars
efficiently
effectively,
because
the
school
board
budget
is
our
largest
line
item
in
our
budget
and
we
do
the
same
thing
within
our
own
budget,
looking
at
different
programs
and
departments.
So
it's
not
unusual
for
government
to
do
something
like
this.
So
I
guess.
D
Absolutely
again
good
evening
to
both
boards
and
County
Commissioners
and
Board
of
Education
I,
rarely
read
slides
word
for
word:
I
will
probably
do
a
little
bit
more
of
that
tonight.
I
want
the
public,
both
here
and
listening,
to
really
hear
what
the
intention
is
without
my
ad
living
as
we
go
along.
So
please
bear
with
me
so
this
when
we
get
to
the
end
for
the
Board
of
Education,
I
have
provided
you.
What
is
the
the
final
it'll
be
the
final
slide.
D
What
you
have
is
a
list
of
items
that,
as
we
go
through
this
you'll
hear
these
in
the
presentation
itself.
But
then
those
will
be
a
lot.
Some
of
the
topics
that
we
will
discuss
at
the
very
end
and
that's
a
discussion
that
both
boards
within
at
that
time
come
together
and
agree
or
disagree,
but
to
get
us
to
where
we
need
to
move
forward.
So
with
that
I'll
start
with
the
first
regarding
a
performance
audit,
pretty
straightforward
as
long
as
I
can
get
this
to
work.
D
Audit
performance
audit
means
an
assessment
of
an
entities
or
programs
practices
to
determine
whether
the
entity
or
program
is
operating
economically
and
efficiently.
Whether
corrective
actions
for
improving
its
performance
are
appropriate.
All
of
these
slides
have
an
annotated
code
to
them.
It's
the
educational
article,
5-110
I,
won't
repeat
that
throughout.
But
please
know
that
is
the
the
legal
documentation
that
that
provides
us
guidance
as
we
move
forward.
D
So
you
know
the
obviously
we
know
by
looking
at
the
budget
that
the
board
of
education
is
the
largest
single
category
of
expenditure
of
public
funds
in
the
County
government.
This
investment
and
our
future
pays
great
dividends
as
and
there's
no
intent
to
reduce
funding
for
the
Board
of
Education
I,
say
again.
There's
no
intent
through
this
ought
to
reduce
funding
performance
audits.
Allow
us
to
to
look
at
specific
areas
of
expenditure
to
ensure
that
the
Dividends
are
being
achieved
efficiently
and
may
offer
recommendations
to
do.
E
D
The
state
indicates
that
the
cost
of
a
performance
audit
will
be
equally
shared,
though
the
County
Commissioners
requested
this
discussion
on
a
performance
audit
prior
to
submission
of
the
board
of
education's
budget
for
the
current
fiscal
year.
It
is
not
apparent
if
that
budget
included
funding
for
its
share
of
a
performance
audit,
because
this
audit
is
not
intended
to
take
away
from
educational
resources.
It
is
anticipated
that
the
boards
may
discuss
this
point
further
and
reach
agreement
regarding
the
allocation
of
costs.
D
Other
than
the
limit
of
scope
of
the
performance
audit
on
the
previous
slide,
it
is
for
the
boards
to
decide
if
there
can
be
agreement
on
the
scope
of
the
performance.
Audit
staff
is
here
to
assist
the
boards
find
agreement
in
defining
with
specificity
the
scope
of
work
that
will
be
used
by
the
contractor
to
Define
its
tasks,
lists
and
deliverables.
D
It
is
intended
that
this
performance
ought
to
be
an
objective
review
of
practices,
policies
and
decisions.
The
purpose
of
a
performance
audit
is
not
to
assign
blame
point
fingers.
There
is
no
need
to
hide
from
it.
We
must
and
will
embrace
the
audit
for
what
purposes
it
serves
to
move
forward
and
share
it
with
the
public
for
transparency.
D
This
performance
audit
is
a
first
step
towards
a
much
more
involved
discussion
about
findings
and
recommendations,
not
all
of
which
may
be
endorsed
or
implemented.
At
the
same
time,
we
appreciate
the
board's
willingness
to
begin
the
Journey
of
self-discovery
in
an
open
and
transparent,
transparent
way,
and
I
will
read
that
sentence
again
because
I
think
it's
the
true
intent.
It's
that
we,
the
boards
and
plural
I,
think
there's
a
willingness
to
to
make
the
point
that
we
need
to
work
together
so
that
we
can
move
forward.
And
that's
what
we're
here
for
tonight.
D
D
Brings
us
to
a
slide:
that's
not
necessing,
it's
not
on
the
screen,
but
I
did
provide
earlier
and
it's
it's
a
list
of
items
as
provided
by
staff
for
review
tonight,
and
at
this
point
I
can
go
down
the
list.
Mr
President
presence
I
can
go
down
the
list.
Also,
if
you
like,
if
that's
the
way
we
would
like
to
do
it
and
for
each
one
I
guess
we
could
have
that
discussion
at
that
time.
D
C
Probably
so
so
I
would
like
to
start
with
a
question
I
before
you
start
reading,
the
recommended
areas
of
review
and
I
should
have
stated
this
question
before
you
began.
I
would
like
to
ask
our
Board
of
County
Commissioners.
What
has
What
specifically
has
occurred
at
the
school
system
to
bring
you
all
to
this
point,
where
you
feel
a
performance
audit
is
necessary.
A
I,
don't
think
that
any
particular
thing
happened
as
I
said
in
opening
comments.
I
think
they
ask
for
24
million
caught
some
people
by
surprise
and
generate
a
lot
of
discussion
about.
Where
is
the
money
going?
As
I
said
earlier,
we
don't
believe
anything
wrong
has
occurred,
I
think
it's
more
about
moving
forward,
making
sure
that
everybody's
you
know
on
the
same
page
as
far
as
practices
and
processes.
A
This
this
first
little
point
I,
think
a
rose
when
we
first
started
meeting
and
Mr
Johnson's
new
and
the
superintendent
are
new.
We
had
some
discussions
about
fund
balance
and
you
know
being
new.
He
wasn't
sure
how
those
that
fund
balance
had
accumulated
and
where
it
exactly
came
from
so
little
things
like
that.
I
think
that
just
triggered
thoughts
in
people's
minds
about
just
knowing
you
know
it's
not
about
finding
something
wrong.
C
Understood,
and
are
you
aware
that
the
school
system
is
audited
on
several
different
occasions
by
several
different
entities,
and
currently
we
both
share
these
same
auditing
firm.
That
does
our
annual
financial
statement
review.
Sure.
A
C
And
you
do
understand
that
we're
also
audited
by
the
office
of
legislative
audits,
which
does
do
a
performance
audit
of
the
school
system
and
has
outlined
some
findings
in
the
past
which
have
been
corrected.
There
are
a
few
that
are
repeat.
Findings
in
the
school
system
is
still
continuing
to
improve
processes
and
procedures
to
to
make
sure
that
those
findings
are
corrected
all
right
and
that
Ola
audit
will
be
coming
up
within
the
next
year
and
a
half.
D
D
D
D
Final
comment:
number
nine
determine
if
closed
sessions,
executive
sessions
and
administrative
functions
of
the
Calvert
County
Board
of
Education
we're
conducting
in
accordance
with
applicable
law,
regulations
and
policies,
including
without
limitation,
the
Maryland
open
meetings.
Act.
Is
there
any
discussion
on
number
nine,
with
that
presidents
I
have
concluded.
G
So,
to
get
back
to
your
question,
it's
a
good
day
for
Calvert
County,
when
two
of
its
elected
boards
come
together
for
the
common
goal
of
improving
our
Education
Foundation
for
the
people
and
for
the
children
of
this
County,
and
we
must
look
out
for
our
future,
while
also
being
fiscally
responsible
and
transparent.
G
G
Where
did
the
money
go?
What
what
line
item
this
year
we
went
13.4
million
over.
Where
did
that
monies
go
and
what
I
need
to
know
is
with
my
20
percent
is,
with
the
blueprint
coming
down
to
Pike
is
what's
next
year,
so
I
need
to
know.
What's
in
this
here
fully
page
nine
says:
enrollment's
going
down.
G
G
C
So
after
the
County
Commissioners
approved
their
portion
of
funding
to
the
school
system,
the
school
system
does
a
Reconciliation
based
on
the
funding
that
is
approved.
So
Mr,
Johnson
and
Dr
townsell
are
in
discussions
to
do
that
reconciliation
to
produce
a
final
approved
budget
book.
That
would
show
you
how
that
13
million
that
the
county
has
given
us
will
be
spent.
H
I
H
So,
just
like
commissioner
Hance
said,
the
I
think
a
big
part
of
what
gave
rise
to
the
concern
about
our
budget
and
the
fact
that
now
we're
talking
about
commissioning
an
audit
was
because
we
presented
the
Commissioners
with
a
budget
that
requested
a
year-over-year
increase.
That
was
three
times
higher
than
anything
they
had
ever
given
us
before.
It.
H
To
all
of
us
and
I
believe
that
to
know
that
our
spending
level
had
grown
so
dramatically,
but
breaking
it
down
as
I
laid
out
in
detail
at
our
last
meeting,
you
see
that
it's
due
to
the
aggressive
salary
and
Pre-K
expansion
plans
of
the
blueprint
negotiated
salary
increases
and
to
our
desire
to
offer
the
support
staff
equivalent
increases
and,
of
course,
among
other
things,
to
the
inflationary
environment
and
continued
product
shortages
that
we're
finding
ourselves
in.
So
we
asked
for
a
full
budget
to
do
what
we
needed.
H
We
felt
needed
to
be
done
to
address
things
like
behavioral
issues
in
the
schools
and
to
set
ourselves
up
for
real,
quantifiable
Improvement
in
student
academic
performance
and
the
Commissioners
had,
as
usual,
the
hard
job
of
figuring
out
how
much
they
can
afford
to
give
us.
I
must
say
that
for
years,
our
commissioners
have
supported
this
school
system
above
maintenance
of
effort,
unlike
some
very
unlucky
other
school
districts,
and
for
that
I
am
very
appreciative.
H
This
year,
they
didn't
give
us
what
we
wanted,
but
they've
provided
enough
to.
Thankfully,
allow
us
to
meet
our
salary
goals
for
next
year,
which
has,
but
because
of
the
reduction,
that's
meant
that
we've
had
some
very
difficult,
difficult
tasks
to
to
go
back
and
look
at
as
any
public
official
knows.
The
exercise
of
identifying
areas
in
your
spending
that
will
have
to
be
cut
means
combing
through
line
item
by
line
item
and
contract
by
contract,
to
decide
what
is
essential.
H
Our
school
district
expenditures
have
consistently
for
the
last
decade
plus
placed
Us
in
the
middle
of
the
road,
around
12
out
of
the
24
counties
and
spending
per
pupil,
which
means
to
me
that
we
are
able
to
maintain
an
excellent
school
system
without
breaking
the
bank
and
for
the
money
spent.
The
cap,
the
citizens
of
Calvert
County,
get
a
pretty
good
bang
for
their
butt.
As
far
as
results
of
what
the
spending
gets
you
before
covid
our
academic
performance
placed
Us
in
the
top
five
test
scores,
and
we
achieved
this
without
profligate
spending.
H
The
only
results
that
I
could
find
from
that
audit
that
they
perform
was
that
the
audit
affirmed
several
actions
and
improvements
made
by
the
county
and
the
school
system
over
the
past
several
years,
and
it
did
include
a
multi-year
plan
to
pay
down
the
health
fund
deficit,
so
I'm
just
wondering
if
they
felt
their
audit
was
worth
the
money
spent
and
as
a
commission
commissioner
you're,
not
a
commissioner
president
Claggett
said
the
office
of
legislative
audit
has
does
regularly
about
every
three
to
five
years.
H
A
financial
management
practices
audit,
the
last
one
we
had
was
in
2020..
They
identified
findings
which
I
have
in
looking
at
other
school
districts.
Odd,
similar
audits.
We
all
have
they
just
sort
of
repeat
the
same
types
of
findings,
so
you
know,
there's
always
room
for
improvement,
but
they've
they've.
A
lot
of
the
school
systems
have
the
exact
same
findings
as
we
did,
and
and
in
our
we
can
pass
along
our
response
to
that
audit,
which
says
that
we
have
to
address
corrective
actions
for
every
single
one
of
those
findings.
H
As
far
as
what
our
school
system
has
done
to
evaluate
ourselves,
our
major
spending
areas
since
I
have
been
on
the
board.
We
have
conducted
two
full
studies
of
our
transportation
program,
one
in
2011,
looking
at
our
private
contractor
system
versus
an
in-house
system
and
one
in
2017,
which
looked
at
efficiencies
and
financial
viability.
H
Each
time
we
implemented
improvements
to
our
system,
but
decided
to
stay
with
our
private
contractor
model
because,
as
you
well
know,
of
the
importance
of
supporting
small
businesses
in
our
County
and
because
the
geographic
and
other
distance
issues
don't
lend
our
County
to
the
central
Depot
model.
On
top
of
that,
we've
done
a
special
ed
study.
H
We've
put
out
to
bid
several
times
our
health
care
and
prescription
contracts
and
have
been
able
to
reduce
the
percentage
of
our
health
care
insurance
costs
as
a
percent
of
our
payroll
by
from
20
down
to
18
and
a
half
percent,
and
we've
also
right
now.
We're
undertaking
a
study
of
how
we
pay
our
support
staff
to
make
sure
that
we're
in
line
with
other
counties
and,
more
importantly,
that
we're
competitive.
H
H
So
on
the
one
hand
I'd
like
the
audit
to
take
place
because
I
do
not
believe
that
there
would
be
any
kind
of
a
sizable
finding
in
that
would
explain
it
would
make
you
guys
feel
comfortable
and
I
do
worry
very
much
about
the
cost
to
us
collectively.
You
know
as
a
County
I
I
asked
myself
if
it
were
up
to
me
to
spend
money
for
this
study
and
and
to
take
up
an
Untold
number
of
hours
of
Staff
time
for
our
staff,
who
are
already
overworked
and
have
undergone
audits
over
and
over.
H
Would
it
be
worth
it,
and
my
answer
to
myself
is
no
I've
had
the
advantage
of
studying
our
system
for
over
a
decade.
So
it's
easy
for
me
to
to
make
the
decision
based
on
that
fact,
and
yes,
as
in
any
report,
I'm
sure
there'll,
be
findings
that
some
that
say
that
some
things
could
be
done
a
little
bit
better
but
I'm.
Thinking
that
the
return
on
investment
for
this
exercise
would
be
very
low
and
not
worth
the
cost
and
the
time
sink,
the
Commissioners
don't
need
any
of
our
votes.
H
It's
it's
a
big
job
to
evaluate
the
effectiveness
of
a
school
system,
because
it's
a
very
complicated
system,
business.
You
know
we're
not
only
supposed
to
keep
everyone
safe,
seven
to
eight
hours
a
day
and
provide
them
with
excellent
education
or
a
rewarding
career.
We're
also
held
responsible
for
select
addressing
societal
problems
like
drug
use
and
violence.
H
Mental
health
and
hunger
school
systems
have
a
thousand
working
parts
that
all
need
to
be
synchronized
and
all
the
Departments
have
to
work
together
for
the
system
to
be
successful,
and
so
therefore,
looking
at
individual
departments
without
looking
at
the
whole
means
that
you
need
to
have
a
really
in-depth
top
level
understanding
to
do
a
good
evaluation.
So
my
feeling
is
that
I
just
don't
want
them
the
county
to
it's
a
big
undertaking.
H
If,
if
you
really
want
to
get
to
the
nuts
and
bolts
of
of
every
single
thing
in
this
140
page
document,
you
know
the
I
I
would
love
it
if
we
could
get
ever
the
Commissioners
together
and
us
together,
and
our
finance
teams
together
and
go
through
it.
You
know
we
have
everything
in
this
document.
Some
people
said
we
didn't
have
a
line
item
budget
and
this
document
that
gets
down
to
kindergarten
snacks.
You
know
that
gets
down
to
spending
by
building
that
that
talks
about
every
single
component
that
we
spend
by
Department.
H
We
have
a
board
of
ed.
You
can
see
the
board
of
Ed's
individual
budget
in
here
and
the
superintendent's
budget,
our
salary
of
the
267
million
dollars
in
our
salary.
82
percent
of
that
are
people.
It
is
salaries.
Teacher
salaries
are
125
million.
All
other
salaries
are
40
million.
The
benefits
and
taxes
on
top
of
that
are
another
50.
So
that's
219
million
dollars
of
a
267
million
are
people.
H
We
have
three
unions
that
comb
through
every
single
person's
salary
and
we
know
that
we're
competitive,
but
we
are
not
the
top
of
salary
levels,
so
there's
no
profit
spending
there,
and
so
that
leaves
a
50
some
odd
million
dollars
to
look
at
48
million
dollars
of
other
spending.
Half
of
that
is
our
transportation
department,
which
is
complicated
yes,
but
but
we
can.
We
can
provide
you
with
as
much
information
individually
as
possible,
and
you
know
maybe
that's
where
we
should
spend
the
time
as
opposed
I.
Just
worry
about
us
spending.
A
Right
so
Don
I
agree
because
you
know
large
portion
of
your
budget
is
salary
and
there's
really
not
much
point
to
auditing
salary.
So
when
you,
when
you
take
out
those
different
components
that
really
aren't
auditable
worth
auditing,
it's
really
not
a
lot
left
in
there.
It's
more
about
processes
and.
A
H
A
J
J
We
all
know
if
there's
a
shortage
of
mental
health
providers.
That's
a
huge
problem.
You
know
I'm,
not
gonna
list
a
business
one
time,
but
when
I
first
got
hired,
I
went
to
that
part
of
our
County
government.
I
said:
look
I'm
not
saying
I
can
fix
any
one
of
these,
but
I
would
like
to
know
a
list
of
what
we
need
to
work
on,
and
you
know
in
time
we
have
started
to
work
that
list.
I
know
from
time
to
time,
I
hear
about
our
athletics
department.
J
You
know
what
could
we
put
more
money
in
it
sure,
but
I
would
like
if
we
want.
If
this
was
the
path
to
go,
how
do
we
sit
as
a
whole
unit?
You
know
do:
do
we
need
more
in
the
Arts?
Do
we
need
this?
You
know
and
I
don't
know
if
these
companies
would
provide
that
the
financial
piece
you're
right.
There
is
not
a
lot
of
discretionary
left
once
you
get
through
the
cost
of
running
the
business,
there's
not
a
lot
of
discretionary,
but
are
we?
J
Is
there
something
out
there
that
maybe
another
system
is
doing
that
we
should
be
doing
or
something
that
they
feel
things
change
you
know
is
is
what's
coming
down
the
path.
J
Are
we
doing
that
and
that
that
would
be
my
biggest
concern
is
making
sure
I
mean
blueprint,
was
new
to
everybody,
but
blueprint
really
only
addressed
one
part
of
the
school
system.
It
didn't
didn't
unless
I
mean
and
it's
I
don't
even
profess
to
to
be
an
expert
on
blueprint,
but
it
didn't
address
everything.
I
think
it
broad
stroked
it.
You
know
we.
We
know
that
there's
there's
an
issue
with
with
before
and
after
cares
and
and
having
and
having
enough
people
for
that.
J
So
if
it
could,
if
it
could
look
at
it
as
a
whole
and
say
hey,
are
we
the
best
in
academics?
Are
we
the
best
in
athletics,
the
Arts
and
entire
school
system?
I?
Would
be
all
about
that,
but
I
don't
know.
If
that's
you
know,
if
that's
even
available
to
us.
K
One
thing
I
could
say
as
superintendent
of
Calvert
County
Public
Schools
is
that
with
the
budget
that
we
do
have
we're
going
to
show
a
return
on
investment
and
student
achievement
for
sure
that's
one
thing:
I
can
show
taxpayers
that
your
money
is
being
well
spent
because
of
how
our
school
district
is
performing.
I'm
very
hopeful
and
excited
with
the
preliminary
results
we
have
on
our
standardized
assessments:
a
lot
of
growth,
a
lot
of
increased
academic
achievement
all
across
the
board,
a
lot
of
reduction
of
disproportionality
I.
K
Think
that
should
be
the
measure
to
say
whether
we're
working
well
or
not,
and
I
bet
on
the
teachers
and
the
Educators
that
are
in
the
building
every
day.
That's
the!
If
we
invest
in
them,
we
will
get
that
return
on
investment,
and
we
did
that
this
year
and
I
can't
wait
to
share
the
data
once
it's
unembargoed.
B
From
what
I've
seen
the
asks
have
continued
to
grow
every
year,
I
have
a
lot
of
friends
who
are
School
teachers
and
they
wonder
where
the
money's
going.
Fortunately,
a
lot
of
the
the
Educators
and
the
sports
staff
saw
that
money
in
their
salaries.
This
year,
which
was
which
was
great,
we
have
a
list
of
recommended
areas
of
review.
B
What
you
guys
agree
with
what
we
agree
with
what
we
would
like
to
see
and
the
other
thing
surrounding
jurisdictions
I
mean
I,
think
we
have
to
compare
ourselves
pretty
much
to
Charles
and
St
Mary's
to
ask
from
Charles
and
St
Mary's
was
exponentially
lower
than
the
ass
from
Calvert
this
year
now
I
know
blueprint
was
a
challenge.
I
knew
salaries
were
challenged.
There
were
some
other
challenges.
B
There,
however
I
think,
if
we're
going
to
compare
apples
to
apples,
that's
probably
about
as
close
as
we
can
come,
rather
than
referring
to
a
PG
auditor,
other
County
audits,
as
they
are
closest
to
us.
The
performance
audit
obviously
is
going
to
go
into
depth
a
whole
lot
more
than
the
standard
audits
that
we
receive
yearly
every
three
years,
whatever
whatever
the
breakdown
is,
it's
it's
definitely
going
to
be
time
consuming
without
a
doubt,
but
I
think
that
it's
fiscally
responsible
to
look
into
doing
this
performance
audit.
L
Well,
I
think
that
Dr
Council,
if
scores
come
back
and
our
students
are
doing
great
I-
think
that's
wonderful
and
we
want
that
for
our
children,
but
who,
within
our
school
system,
is
underserved.
When
I
first
hit
this
budget
being
a
new
County
Commissioner
it
was,
it
was
a
bit
overwhelming.
It
was
a
bit
appalling,
where's,
the
money
going
to
where,
where
are
we
lacking?
Where
can
we
approve
and
I
felt
very
blind
going
into
the
system
with
zero
answers?
L
Are
we
providing
resources
to
our
children
who
maybe
lost
so
much
during
the
pandemic?
Our
special
education
children?
Are
they
being
served
the
way
they
need
to
be
served?
I
mean
we
always
and
having
athletic
children
who
were
offered
scholarships
I
I
understand
the
athletic
end
of
it,
but
I
also
had
a
child
who
was
more
on
the
creative
arts
path
and
had
a
little
bit
of
problem
with
learning,
and
it
seems
that
everything
goes
into
those
ends.
So
for
me,
I
want
to
know
the
big
picture.
L
C
L
It
you
know
it's,
it
does
and
and
it's
black
and
white-
and
you
see
it,
but
do
you
understand
that
you
know
what's
behind
certain
aspects
of
it?
Where
are
we
lacking?
I
want
us
to
have
a
fantastic
school
system
within
Calvert
County,
but
I
want
to
know
that
our
money
is
being
spent
wisely
and
we
are
serving
all
the
students
within
the
school
system.
K
I'll
add,
while
there's
a
pause
and
that's
a
great
conjecture,
because
we
have
our
strategic
planning
process
starting
right
now
we're
going
into
the
engagement
phase
as
a
matter
of
fact,
July
17th,
we
pulled
every
supervisor
and
administrator
together
in
Calvert
County
Public
Schools
to
identify
22
focus
groups
of
talking
about
what
is
it
you
want
to
see
in
Calvert,
County,
Public
Schools.
Additionally,
we're
going
to
interview
Board
of
Education
members,
Board
of
County,
Commissioners
and
other
stakeholders
within
the
community
to
identify
where
we
should
be.
K
What
is
a
portrait
of
a
graduate
within
the
next
three
to
five
years?
We
also
asked
for
that
in
the
budget
and
the
Commissioners
approved,
giving
us
the
money
to
pay
for
a
strategic
planning
process,
and
we
expect
to
have
that
draft
plan
to
the
Board
of
Education
by
December
23,
but
I
encourage
the
community.
Everyone
involved
get
involved
than
the
strategic
planning
process,
because
that's
how
you
can
get
all
the
way
in
to
what
the
expectations
are
for
Calvert
County,
Public,
School
students.
H
And
I
just
want
to
make
one
note,
so
the
point
was
brought
up
that
they
asked
from
this
local
school
system
to
the
Saint
Mary's
County
Commissioners
into
the
I.
Think
you
said,
Charles
County
was
smaller
than
us,
and
that
is
because,
like
for
example,
St
Mary's
is
getting
18
million
dollars
from
the
state
additional
funding
for
this
past
for
this
next
year
and
we're
getting
7.8
million.
So
those
counties
that
have
the
larger
areas
of
pockets
of
poverty.
H
It's
the
way
they
look
at
the
state
funding,
it's
inversely
proportionate
to
the
wealth
of
the
county,
and
so
I.
Don't
have
the
Charles
County
number
right
in
front
of
me,
but
I
assumed
that
they're
even
higher
as
the
amount
of
money
that's
given
to
them
by
the
state.
So
we're
very
lucky
to
have
you
guys,
because
you
have
always
been
able
to
keep
us
competitive
by
giving
us
what
the
state
is
not
so.
Thank
you.
M
So
if
I
may,
I
I
think
also
the
the
importance
of
you
know
defining
what
the
scope
is
going
to
be
is
not
just
about
staff
and
test
scores,
but
it's
also
about
the
contracted
Services
that
we
pay
for
so
an
example
of
that
would
be
Transportation.
So
how
many
of
those
buses
that
we
that
we
pay
for
break
down
in
a
year?
How
many
of
them
are
out
of
compliance
with
repairs?
How
many
times
do
they
break
down
and
we
have
to
send
a
replacement
bus
and
a
replacement
bus
driver?
M
Those
would
be
some
of
the
things
that
I
would
think.
You
know
an
audit
may
help
us
see
and
understand
and
and
be
able
to
kind
of
address
those
things.
That's
that's
a
small
example.
I
realized,
but
but
that's
just
something
that
you
know
we
talk
about
our
contracted
services.
That
might
be
helpful.
H
You
know
you,
as
a
board
member,
have
the
absolute
right
to
go
and
sit
down
with
them
that
we
we
bring.
That
kind
of
thing
up
all
the
time
when,
especially
in
the
last
audit
last
Transportation
study,
I
should
say
that
was
done.
How
we
develop
our
formulas
on
how
we
reimburse
the
the
bus
contractors
how
we
penalize
them
if
they
don't
meet
the
required,
runs
and,
and-
and
things
like
that
or
on
time
runs.
M
But
is
it
tracked
appropriately
and
do
we
know
that
all
the
time
it's
just
like
the
just
just
like
the
food,
you
know,
maybe
that's
something,
the
the
cost
of
what
we
pay
for
our
students
to
eat
lunch,
and
you
know
how
effective
our
food
program
is.
We
constantly
hear
things
about
that.
You
know,
and
is
it
the
transportation
of
the
trucks
that
we
buy
the
food
and
then
deliver
it
to
the
schools
versus
another
Avenue
or
resource
that
might
be
helpful.
M
H
H
But
you
know
I,
just
don't
think
we
need
to
spend
the
money
waste,
the
taxpayers
money
on
that
when
we
have
the
tools
that
we
can
use.
I.
B
B
I
think
you
need
to
to
weigh
it
out
a
little
bit,
but
if
there's
a
return
on
investment
that
far
outweighs
what
we
have
to
pay
for
this
audit
at
the
end
of
the
day,
this
is
about
saving
money.
If
this
was
a
private
business,
we
would
want
to
have
this
audit
and
see
if
we
could
save
some
money.
That's
what
it's
all
about!
It's
about!
Saving
the
taxpayers,
money
and
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
this
a
little
bit
differently
than
being
adversarial.
It's
not
adversarial
at
all.
C
Mr
commissioner
Ireland
I
would
ask
what
it
what
would
be
the
return
on
investment
that
you
would
like
to
see
from
this
audit.
For
you
to
be
able
to
be
comfortable
with
the
findings
of
the
audit
and
know
that
there
were
cost
savings.
B
You
can't
Define
that
right
now,
there's
no
way
you
can
Define
it
right
now.
It's
something
that
that's
like
I
say
you're
going
to
have
to
could
it
could
come
back
soon?
You
guys
need
more
money
and.
N
B
B
F
O
I
just
want
to
add
to
that
that
if
we
could
find
a
two
percent
savings,
two
percent
of
50
million
is
a
lot
of
money.
N
Or
even
with
getting
this
good
evening,
everyone
even
with
getting
this
together,
we've
been
communicating
you
guys.
This
is
Scott
Johnson,
you
guys
know
him
and
Dr
Townsville,
you
guys
can
call
them
make
appointments
with
them.
We've
been
asking
for
what
you
guys
were
looking
for
and
asked
we
get
this
two
minutes
before
the
meeting
starts.
So
that's
not
us
trying
to
work
together
and
to
get
things
done
all
these
folks.
Here
it's
our
this
is
like
friends.
This
is
90
percent
of
the
governing
decision
makers
in
Calvert
County
sitting
right
here.
N
Right
now,
I
mean
there
are
opportunities
for
us
to
get
some
of
this
taken
care
of.
So
when
we're
in
front
of
them,
we
are
not
doing
this.
We
are
coming
up
with
answers
or
with
Solutions
about
what
we're
doing
we're,
not
hiding
anything.
You
know,
as
far
as
having
an
audit,
if
that's
what's
going
to
make
people
comfortable
I'm
fine
with
that
you
know,
but
once
again,
I
am
along
the
lines
of
Mr.
Johnson
has
been
here
for
one
year
he's
cut.
N
He
acquired
something
so
whatever
that
is,
he
has
to
have
time
to
say:
okay,
I
just
moved
into
this
house.
What
needs
to
go?
What
needs
to
stay?
What
needs
to
happen,
but
now
it
just
seems
like
people
can
say
whatever
they
can
comment
whatever
they
can
write
whatever
in
the
paper
and
people
just
jump
all
over
it.
Facts
optional.
So
that's
that's!
What's
tough,
that's
why
we
need
to
do
this
not
only
in
this
setting,
but
we
need
to
do
it
in
a
in
a
way
that
we
can
have
understanding.
N
So
when
we
come
out
here,
we
can
actually
present
to
them.
Okay.
This
is
what
we're
going
to
do,
and
this
is
how
we're
going
to
move
forward
no
one's
out
here
to
to
hide
or
to
I,
got
you
or
anything
like
that,
but
I
just
thought
that
you
know
we've
been
asking
for
something
and
then
we
get
it
two
minutes
prior
to
that's,
not
in
good
faith.
N
So
once
again,
I
appreciate
everything
that
you
guys
are
doing,
I
mean
Mark.
We
just
had
a
conversation
where
we
were
laughing
and
joking.
You
know
so
we're
all
residents
and
we
all
are
on
the
same
page.
We
want
this
direct,
the
same
thing
we
want
what's
best
for
our
students.
That's
our
job.
You
guys
want
what's
best
for
the
community
and
the
students,
so
we
all
have
jobs
and
roles
and
responsibilities
that
we
focus
on
when
it
comes
to
I
want
to
know
this
line.
I
want
to
know
exactly
this.
G
K
E
K
M
M
So
I
think
we're
you
know,
while
it's
a
concern,
I
do
realize,
but
I
think
that
you
know
having
a
discussion
and
having
an
opportunity
to
maybe
absorb
and
have
you
know
further
discussion
about
the
the
request
here
would
be
a
start
and
then
to
identify
the
scope
and
then
just
and
and
then
see
how
much
it
costs
then
then
to
maybe
have
subsequent
discussions
after
that.
O
I'd
also
like
to
add
that
we
have
to
remember
the
intent
of
this.
This
is
not
a
personal
attack
on
anyone.
I
think
our
financial
people
are
doing
an
amazing
job,
but
their
job
is
to
make
sure
things
are
done
legally
this
audit,
my
understanding
of
this
audit,
is
to
make
sure
that
this
is
caught.
Things
are
being
done,
cost
efficiently.
C
I
would
disagree
with
that.
I
think
that,
as
an
employee
of
the
school
system
that
our
employees
take
it
upon
themselves
to
do
things
in
a
cost
efficient
manner,
they
do
professional
development
on
an
annual
basis
to
go
out
and
find
back
best
practices
across
the
United
States
that
they
can
Implement
here
in
Calvert,
County
and
I
think
that
each
of
them
take
that
seriously
and
do
bring
back
best
practices
and
do
try
to
have
to
put
cost
Savings
in
place
so
that
they're
working,
smarter
and
not
harder
as
people
say
well.
L
So,
what's
the
bottom
line,
are
we
going
to
be
able
to
walk
to
work
together?
Are
we
going
to
be
able
to
get
together
again
and
have
some
conversations
make
sure?
The
information
that
you
get
is
not
two
minutes
before
you
get
here,
or
is
this
going
to
continue
as
an
adversarial
adversarial
process
between
us,
because
it's
incumbent
upon
us
that
we
manage
our
money
wisely
and
our
money
is
not
our
money?
It
is
our
constituents
money.
We
all
want
our
children
to
be
educated.
C
And
Miss,
commissioner
Grasso,
we
completely
agree
I,
believe
all
colleagues
on
the
board.
Agree
to
that
and
I
think
that
the
school
system
in
in
thinking
about
your
response
to
the
question
that
I
asked
you.
Maybe
we
need
to
do
a
better
job
of
ensuring
that
we
share
information
with
the
County
Commissioners
on
our
programs
that
are
happening
within
the
school
system.
To
assure
you
that
those
who
are
underserved
are
being
served
and
that
those
who
have
questions
or
having
their
questions
answered
and
as
well.
O
K
O
C
Understood
there's
many
areas
where
Equity
is
not
being
met
and
I
share
your
Equity
concerns.
I
was
the
one
who
made
the
motion
to
add
the
two
additional
gifted
and
talented
teachers,
because
I
see
that
as
a
weakness
in
our
school
system
and
we
have
to
move
forward
on
something
we're
committed
to.
But
there
are
also
other
areas
we're
committed
and
we
have
to
decide
as
a
board
what's
important
and
where
we
can
add
and
where
we
can
subtract
in
order
to
move
forward.
So
those
are
budgeting
decisions
as
we
move
forward.
O
K
And
so
we
also,
we
ask
for
two
assistant
principals,
one
for
Calvert
High
and
one
for
Patuxent
High
to
get
them
four
to
be
equivalent
with
Huntingtown
and
Northern.
With
the
addition
of
the
gifted
and
talented
teachers,
we
can
no
longer
fund
the
assistant
principles
so
looking
at
and
scrubbing
our
budget
book,
we
we
know
we're
down
to
the
bone
even
right.
Now,
we're
across
all
departments
cutting
to
a
point:
five
percent
from
every
Department
in
Calvert
County
Public
Schools,
to
have
a
balanced
budget
to
present
to
our
Board
of
Education.
K
So
as
the
superintendent
I
know,
where
Lane
and
down
to
the
bone,
I
do
understand
that
because
we
also
have
new
Commissioners
there's
some
understanding
that
must
be
had.
But
I
would
like
to
commit
my
team
to
being
open
to
answering
any
question
that
comes
from
our
elected
officials.
So
there
could
be
Clarity
on
what
is
happening
with
the
monies
and
I
do
believe.
K
What
I
told
our
team
is
I,
don't
ever
want
to
talk
about
how
Calvert
County
used
to
be
top
five.
We're
still
saying
that
today,
I
want
to
be
top
one.
Two
three
in
the
next
one,
two
three
years
and
I
do
believe
we
can
do
that
with
the
budget
process.
We
have
in
place
with
the
team
we
have
in
place.
Education,
administrators
and
teachers
alike.
I
do
believe
when
we
show
how
our
young
people
are
achieving
with
the
monies
and
budget
we
have.
K
Everyone
will
feel
that
we're
doing
the
right
thing
with
our
finances
and
that's
no
way
to
be
contentious
adversarial
just
sitting
in
the
seat.
I
know
we're
doing.
What's
right
financially
and
if,
if
the
team
decide,
we
must
go
with
the
audit,
we're
going
to
do
the
audit
and
then
hopefully
that
proves
one
or
two
things.
Things
have
been
going
well
or
there's
a
potential
change
or
Savings
in
this
area.
Here
so
I'm
approaching
this
with
an
open
mind
and
and
keeping
young
people
at
the
Forefront
of
it.
H
What
I
would
want
to
do
is
to
get
bids
and
we'll
have
these
these
firms,
who
somehow
are
able
to
delve
in
a
relatively
short
time
period,
time
period
into
a
school's
overall
budget
and
figure
out
how
all
the
working
parts
work
together
and
then
to
figure
out
where
potential
cost
savings
are
and
and
still
be
effect
and
not
impact
the
effectiveness
of
the
school
system.
But
if
I
were
you,
I
would
get
some
bids.
H
Have
them
look
at
the
last,
maybe
two
ola's
office
of
legislative
audits,
their
their
performance
audits
to
just
see
and
then
look
at
our
budget
to
see
that
82
percent
of
its
people
oriented
if
they're
worried
about
some
of
these
nine
areas
of
review
did
say
payroll.
You
know
so
if
they,
if
they
decide
if
they
think
that
the
best
bang
for
the
buck
would
be
to
look
at
payroll,
you
know
that's
just
and
that
it's
a
way
to
limit
the
scope.
You
know,
because
I
think
it's
going
to
be
way
too
expensive.
H
You
know
to
try
to
just
leave
an
open-ended
audit
for
these
guys,
but
so
I
personally
I
am
not
going
to
offer.
You
know:
I,
don't
I,
don't
I,
don't
believe
that
that
these
are
necessary,
so
I
I,
we
you
don't
need
our
votes.
I
might
not.
Is
that
correct?
You
don't
need
a
vote
from
the
board.
Is
this?
Is
that
a
correct
statement.
R
There's
there's
two
ways
of
doing
a
performance
audit.
The
first
way
is
by
agreement
of
the
two
boards,
which
would
require
a
public
vote
of
each
board,
and
I
would
assume
that
before
such
a
vote
could
take
place,
there
would
have
to
be
some
understanding
as
to
the
scope
how
it
would
be
publicly
procured
whether
you
do
it
on
a
bid
or
a
competitive,
sealed
proposal
or
whether
you
piggyback
on
another
entity.
There
would
have
to
be
an
agreement
between
the
two
boards
as
to
who's
going
to
pay
for
it.
R
The
statute
specifically
provides
that,
in
the
absence
of
an
agreement
between
the
two
boards,
the
board
of
County
Commissioners
has
the
right
to
request
that
the
Maryland
State
Department
of
Education
enter
into
a
a
contract
for
the
performance.
Audit
quote
on
the
issues
raised
in
the
County's
request,
and
so
there
would
have
to
be
a
delineation
of
the
specific
issues.
If
it's
going
to
be
sent
to
the
state,
the
state
would
then
do
its
own
procurement
of
a
contract,
and
then
the
costs
would
be
shared
between
the
two
boards.
R
The
idea,
though,
is
that
any
performance
audit
be
conducted
within
a
sufficient
period
of
time
that
it
would
be
meaningful
for
the
creation
of
the
next
budget
and
even
though
we're
in
July.
We
all
know
that
budgets
are
created
well
in
advance
of
June
30
of
2024.
So
you
would
really
need
the
results,
probably
by
November
or
December,
in
order
to
meaningfully
impact
the
fy25
budget.
A
Of
or
areas
of
audit
we're
just
provided
for
discussion
purposes,
it
wasn't
intended
to
put
you
on
the
spot
and
only
give
you
a
few
minutes
to
make
a
decision.
You
know
I
think
what
we
were
trying
to
do
tonight
was
to
determine
the
scope
and
that
scope
could
be
very
narrow.
It
could
be
a
starting
point
where
at
least
we
start
a
process
at
something:
I,
don't
know
how
we
bid
I,
don't
know
how
we
bid
out
a
performance
audit
without
any
parameters
of
the
art.
That
would
be.
A
You
know
that
would
be
quite
entertaining,
and
that
is
not
our
intention
to
think
that
if
we
could
at
least
go
through
this
list
of
eight
items
and
pick
two,
you
know
that
we
would
agree
to
have
audited.
It's
a
start
and.
C
So,
given
what
Mr
o'meally
has
said
regarding
an
audit
and
the
impact
on
the
next
budget,
if
your
intent
was
for
the
audit
to
be
able
to
provide
cost
savings
for
your
next
budget
review,
I
personally,
don't
feel
that
a
performance
audit
would
be
able
to
get
done
be
done
by
October
of
this
year
to
be
able
to
impact
the
next
budget
numbers.
C
A
C
A
A
B
I
think
we've
been
trying
to
have
this
meeting
for
some
time,
I'm
glad
we
finally
did,
but
if
we
keep
kicking
this
can
down
the
road
we're
going
to
keep
it'll.
Be
this
same
result:
Time,
After,
Time,
After,
Time
I.
Think
we
need
to
take
some
steps
now
to
I
mean
if
we're
going
to
move
forward
to
see
which
way
we're
going
to
move
forward.
B
That's
my
suggestion
to
do.
Do
both
boards
agree
to
to
perform
its
audit,
or
do
we
have
to
go
to
the
state
for
it.
E
A
M
A
C
M
So
I
found
the
list
to
be
helpful,
so
I
appreciate
that
thank
you,
but
if
I
was
to
look
at
them
right
now,
if
we
wanted
to
kind
of,
as
commissioner
Ireland
said,
Kick
the
Can
down
the
road,
are
we
kicking
it?
Are
we
stopping
it?
I,
don't
know
anyway,
I
think
number
nine
specifically
about
determining.
M
If
closed
sessions,
executive
sessions,
administrative
functions
and
things
you
know
about
in
compliance
with
the
open
meetings
act
that
that
would
be
one
that
that,
at
least
for
for
myself
personally
is
not
is
not
one
of
interest
and
I.
Don't
think
that
that
would
be
beneficial
to
audit.
D
May
I
verify
that?
Are
we
eliminating
or
are
we
clarifying
that
we
won
I.
M
I,
can
we
have
a
discussion
about
Too
Close
Your
Hands
in
in
that
the
evaluating
the
the
analysis
of
seller,
expenditures
and
payroll,
and
it
may
be
because
this
is
a
suggestion
it
needs
to
be.
You
know,
identified
or
discussed
further,
but
wouldn't
this
be
like?
Could
this
be
included
the
the
ratio
of
the
the
the
number
of
students
to
teachers
that
we
have
those
sorts
of
things.
B
A
A
B
J
E
J
I
mean
so,
if
there's
some
verbiage
to
to
cut
that
just
Mark
twenty
percent
to
to
specific
programs
more
so
than
just
I
mean,
like
say,
blueprints
already
said
what
somebody's
going
to
make
in
in
the
timelines,
and
at
that
point
then
you
just
steps
in
colas
which
we've
had
a
standard
practice
of
anyway.
So
I
don't
know
what
a
deep
dive
on
that
would
accomplish.
L
Four
and
five
are
important
to
me
and
I
agree
number
two
I'd
like
to
see
that
worded.
So
we
can
make
sure
that
I
don't
want
to
say
underserved,
but
the
potential
for
our
underserved
students
who
possibly
are
having
some
problems
since
the
pandemic,
our
special
education,
children,
our
special
needs,
children
get
their
needs,
are
being
met.
J
That's
a
good
point
too,
because
you
know
somebody,
you
know
who's
doing
the
right
thing
and
out
there
pushing
and
stuff
we
should
be
behind
them
and
say
you
know,
go
get
it
as
hard
as
you
can
I
and
that
that's
a
good
point,
because
we
always
like
to
focus
on
you
know.
Just
just
somebody
didn't
you
know
struggling
and
we
forget
about
the
people
that
are
really
doing
well.
That's
a
good
point.
I
A
And
you
would
just
come
here
and-
and
it
was
you
know,
a
challenge
just
walking
into
or
trying
to
figure
out,
because
I
know
you
told
me
you
were
struggling,
trying
to
go
back
and
figure
out
where
some
of
that
money
would
come
from
and
I
thought.
The
last
communication
I
saw
from
you
regarding
that
was
you
were
still
challenged
to
find
out
some
of
that
money's,
original
orange
and
and
whether
it
was
restrictive
or
unrestricted.
A
P
P
I
can't
tell
you
how
the
district
acquired
the
funds,
the
district,
received
more
funds
than
it
expended
in
some
years,
and
so
that
helped
to
increase
the
fund
balance
Over
time.
However,
the
district
has
increased
fund
balance
in
some
years
and
reduced
it
in
others.
For
instance,
in
fiscal
year
21
the
district's
total
fund
balance
was
28.8
million.
P
One
year
later,
in
June
30th
22,
the
district's
fund
balance
had
dropped
the
total
fund
balance
to
24
million,
so
the
district
had
actually
reduced
the
fund
balance
by
4.8
million
dollars
so
because
I'm,
relatively
new
with
the
district
I,
don't
have
the
history
of
determining
or
answering
how
the
decision
was
made
to
commit
fund
balance
over
the
years.
I
can
tell
you
that
the
revenues
over
expenditures
caused
the
increase
in
fund
balance
in
the
years
during
which
the
fund
balance
increased
during.
J
C
A
It
is
but,
as
I
said,
when
we
were
going
through
the
budget
process,
we
had
some
questions
about
it
and
I
just
want
to
give
Mr
Johnson
credit.
He
was
brand
new
and
he
was
struggling
to
answer
those
questions.
So
I
was
just
trying
to
affirm
that
he's
had
enough
time
now.
He's
figured
out
at
least
most
of
it.
H
I
mean
a
lot
of
these
are
just
things
not
a
lot
but
yeah.
The
five
million
he's
made
some
estimates
for
the
fund
balance
in
June,
and
you
know,
there's
always
going
to
be
encumbrances
that
are
outstanding
and
POS
that
are
open
and
the
like,
and
so
that
was
five
million
dollars
for
this
here
then
there's
stuff,
that's
called
restricted
that
our
grant
encumbrances,
basically
that's
another
tuna
and
then
the
things
that
you
know
as
a
board.
We
have,
if
back
in
the
day,
I
think
it
was
20.
2013
I
can't
remember.
H
E
H
So
that's
a
standard,
you
know
Reserve
accounting
practice
and
you
know
I,
don't
know
if
what
what
your
fund
balance
looks
like,
but
I
I
didn't
think.
Ours
was
overly
a
surprise,
but
we
could
certainly
that'd
be
one
of
the
things
that
we'd
be.
You
know,
can
sit
down
with
the
county
on
and
go
over
in
detail,
and
if
you
know,
if
it's,
if
it
is
a
cause,
you
know,
then
maybe
we
can
develop
a
new
formula
and
that
we
did
have
in
place.
H
C
So
that's
a
great
suggestion:
Dawn.
Maybe
our
boards
can
get
together
and
work
on
a
funding
formula
formula
similar
to
the
one
that
we
had
in
the
past,
which
would
assist
the
Commissioners
in
knowing
what
was
going
to
be
expected
when
we
send
our
budget
over
to
be
funded
and
we
would
be
able
to
better
budget
because
we
would
know
what
is
going
to
be
funded
and
then
that
way.
J
I
think
this
coming
year
would
be
a
challenge
until
we
get
blueprint
satisfied,
but
after
blueprint
is
satisfied,
we
should
have
some
more
level
funding,
because
I
believe
it
was
basically
half
this
year
and
then
half
going
into
there.
So
if
you,
if
you
set
the
formula
in
place,
the
way
that
was
set
up
you
know
was
of
course
percentages.
J
So
it's
going
to
change,
but
but
it
was
very
efficient
in
the
past
and
that
that
could
be
something
that,
after
after
we
satisfied
blueprint
that
we
step
back
and
look
at
because
it
did
make
it
kind
of
hate.
This
look
around
corners.
J
It
did
make
it
a
lot
easier
on
both
boards,
because
there
was
no
back
and
forth.
We.
We
knew
basically
what
it
was
going
to
be.
You
knew
what
it
was
to
work
with
and
but
I
I
think
it'll
be
once
we
get
past
blueprint
would
be
easier
because
the
13
million
on
top
of
whatever
happens
during
the
year,
it's
going
to
throw
that
number
off,
but
then
we
should
get
to
a
level
base.
I
would
think
after
that.
E
C
So
it
could
always
be
a
variable
and
I'm
not
saying
that
we
base
our
formula
on
the
same
type
of
formula
that
was
done
in
the
past,
but
maybe
our
staff
can
get
together
and
come
up
with
a
formula
that
works
based
on
what
blueprint
is
giving
us
right
now
and
what
we
right
now
right
now
know
about
the
blueprint
so
different.
But
a
formula.
M
I
think
that
one
I
think
that
would
have
been
important
important
to
sample
the
procurements
issued
by
the
Board
of
Ed.
P
C
A
A
Company,
the
company-
they
didn't,
explain
it.
No,
these
are
just
things
that
we
audit,
so
we
could
modify
them
any
way
we
like
or
kick
them
out
entirely,
or
they
were
just
a
guide
for
discussion
instead
of
us
trying
to
sit
here
and
out
of
the
Clear
Blue
Skies
come
up
with
stuff,
so
that's
that
they
were
just
talking
points.
M
Well,
I
mean
I,
even
think
you
know
it's
not
negative,
even
looking
at
a
procurement
practice,
or
you
know
something
that
we
use
something
as
simple
as
office
supplies
and
looking
at
how
all
of
those
things
are
procured
and
finding
a
more
efficient
way
or
a
cheaper
vendor
or
something
like
that
to
to
procure
office
supplies
it
doesn't,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
again:
it's
not
a
gotcha.
It's
just
making
sure
that
you
know
some
of
the
the
procurements.
P
M
Well
then,
maybe
it's
not
FY
19
to
FY
22.
Maybe
it's
one.
P
Purchase
of
equipment
supplies
purchase
services,
but
not
staff,
not.
C
B
B
To
you
getting
here
that
things
weren't
done
the
way
you're
doing
them
and
they
could
have
been
done
better
and
there's
a
cost
Savings
in
there
of
say
three
million
dollars,
just
throw
it
out
there,
and
this
is
all
hypothetical.
Let's
say
it's
three
million
dollars
and
we
find
that
out,
but
yet
that
three
millions
in
your
budget
and
your
way
is
better
so
you're
going
to
save
us
four
million
right.
K
K
K
K
Responsible
for
taxpayers,
money
I
found
that
out
in
November
we're
responsible
for
taxpayers
money
as
well,
so
I,
don't
I,
don't
want
it
to
I
pray
that
it's
not
we're.
Just
spending.
K
We
have
all
the
checks
and
balances
cross,
tees,
dot,
eyes
everything
so
I'm,
confident
with
the
team
My
Hope
Is
that
there's
a
we
don't,
for
example,
just
spend
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
on
a
performance
audit
to
come
back
with
a
25k
savings,
because
I'm
telling
you
now
and
we're
about
95
done
with
our
budget
book
to
give
to
our
board
we're
still
cutting
2.52
and
a
half
percent
across
every
Department
I
just
took
10K
out
of
my
personal
budget
to
make
sure
we
can
meet
and
balance
our
budget.
K
So
knowing
that
we're
slicing
I'm
like
I
mean
I,
don't
know
what
they're
going
to
see
savings.
When
we
talk
about
the
contracted
Services
going
through
the
budget
process,
we
printed
out
every
contract
that
we
work
with
130
of
them
and
I
promise
you
we
needed
129
of
them
I
couldn't
let
one
of
them
go
because
a
lot
of
it
was
speech,
language
pathology.
A
lot
of
it
was,
you
know,
even
athletic
trainers
that
were
struggling
with,
that
you
see
pivot
and
went
away
from
that.
So
I
mean
you
know
and.
K
E
K
And
the
budget
pressures
that's
going
to
come
down
the
line.
I
mean
I,
can't
ask
us
to
do
anything
different
because
I
have
to
account.
We
must
account
for
blueprint.
As
you
know,
salaries
across
the
board
minimum
must
be
60k
by
FY
26.,
so
you're
not
going
to
get
anything
extra
for
me.
I
won't
even
be
able
to
ask
for
assistant
principles
next
year,
because
we're
also.
K
Ladder
which
is
a
part
of
the
blueprint,
so
a
lot
of
the
shock
value-
ask
that
came
from
our
district
was
reallocated
by
legislation
to
be
honest
with
you,
it
was.
It
was
asked
for
in
good
faith,
not
in
mismanagement
or
just
trying
to
ask
for
the
sky.
It
was
done
in
good
faith,
so
my
prayer
is
that
whatever
we
ultimately
do,
we're
not
just
giving
someone
100K
and
we
save
75k,
because
now
we're
negative
25..
That's
where
my
thoughts
are.
A
So
an
issue
a
rose
two
budgets
ago,
two
budgets
ago,
I
think
about
employees,
reimbursement
for
mileage.
A
It
came
to
light
that
there
were
employees
that
it's
their
job
to
be
on
the
road
every
day
and
they
were
using
their
personal
cars,
and
so
there
were
some
because
they
were
using
their
personal
cars.
So
there
was
some
discussion
of
whether
it
was
more
cost
effective
to
pay
them
mileage
or
to
purchase
cars
and
provide
them.
If
you
all
looked
at
that.
K
Yes,
we
discussed
that
and
that's
why
we
have
a
fleet
of
cars
now
that
people
must
you
use
when
they
have
to
travel
from
top
of
the
county
to
the
northern
to
the
southern
part
of
the
county.
So
I
guess
because
of
that
inquiry.
A
couple
of
years
ago
we
did
purchase
vehicles
for
staff
to
use
even
for
the
superintendent
I,
don't
use
it,
but
we
just
letting
you
know,
there's
a
car
there.
F
P
P
A
J
A
N
But
we
we
knew
about
this
meeting
for
a
while.
It's.
N
E
A
Look
at
seven
to
see
if
there's
a
cost,
two
was
Rewritten
to
to
look
more
at
underserved
and
special
needs.
A
Yeah
I
forgot
that
on
my
list,
so
that's
what
we're
trying
to
do.
A
B
J
Finally,
commissioner,
Island
brings
up
a
good
point.
We
spend
millions
and
millions
of
dollars
in
that
process.
I
mean
I've
screamed
about
it
for
years.
As
you
know,
I
just
I,
don't
know
how-
and
it's
been
explained
to
me
so
folks
out
there
don't
know.
I
have
a
huge
Thorn
that
if
your
HVAC
system
breaks
at
home,
somebody
shows
up,
they
tell
you
what
they
need
and
you
go
about
it
for
some
reason
in
government
they
come
out
and
they
have
to
pretty
much
throw
away.
J
Everything
that
you
have
seems
like
every
time
and
then
go
out
and
get
an
engineering
firm
and
come
up
with
a
system.
That's
only
going
to
last
for
about
15
to
20
years
and
by
the
time
we
get
it
paid
off.
It's
no
good
again.
It
seems
like
this
never-ending
cycle
and
it's
not
like
it's
a
few
dollars.
It's
millions
and
millions
of
dollars
across
all
of
these
buildings,
so
I
have
had
a
hard
time
with.
J
It
was
doomed
for
failure
and,
in
my
personal
opinion,
so
before
that
gets
out
there.
It's
my
20
I
didn't
like
it,
then
I,
don't
like
it
now,
but
I
would
really
hope.
There's
a
more
efficient
away,
more
efficient
way
to
get
HVAC
done
in
this
County.
So
but.
A
D
A
J
S
J
A
D
A
C
L
H
A
A
A
E
On
how
soon
we.
E
D
Motion
to
develop
a
more
defined
scope
of
work
and
determine
an
estimated
cost.
Are
we
still
looking
to
estimate
that
cost
as
we
bring
it
back?
Are
we
accepting
the
fact
that
what
that
cost
is
we're
going
to
pay
for
it.
A
A
A
T
D
So
I
mean
what
I'm
hearing
is
that
you're
good
with
creating
the
scope
of
work
and
directing
staff
to
bring
as
part
of
that
scope
of
work
to
also
direct
staff
to
to
put
this
out
for
bid,
but
but
I'm
thinking
that
we
need
to
bring
it
back
for
you
in
a
work
session.
D
D
J
A
With
that
all
right,
so
we're
going
to
draft
the
scope
based
on
the
discussion
tonight,
we're
gonna,
Todd
Road
detail
we're
going
to
distribute
that,
amongst
all
the
members
of
both
boards
for
comments.
Once
we
get
those
comments
back,
we'll
bring
it
back
to
us
under
old
business
for
approval
to
put
out
to
bid
yes
and
then
wouldn't
that
be
part
of
motion
when,
when
those
bids
come
back,
we'll
see
what
they
are
and
determine
how
we
want
to
move
forward.
Yes,
sir,
that
sound
correct
everybody,
okay,
you
got
a
motion
for
me,
commissioner.
B
So
I
make
a
motion
that
we
review
the
scope
of
work
with
Direction
given
to
Mr
Willis
and
distribute
that
list
of
the
scope
of
work
to
both
boards.
F
C
A
C
B
B
C
K
F
Good
evening
the
board
adopted
a
resolution
in
1989
intending
to
maintain
the
order
and
the
Quorum
of
the
governmental
process
a
copy
is
found
here
to
my
right.
The
ethics
commission
has
asked
that
we
remind
speakers
of
public
comment
that
lobbyists
include
those
who
seek
to
influence
public
policy
and
lobbyists
must
register
in
advance,
but
resolution
5120
any
any
individual
or
the
appointed
spokesperson
for
a
group
is
welcome
to
address
the
board
of
County
Commissioners
on
any
matter.
F
Persons
addressing
the
board
shall
refrain
from
statements,
remarks
or
conduct
that
is
on
civil,
rude,
vulgar,
profane
or
otherwise,
disruptive
to
the
conducting
of
the
board's
business.
The
floor
has
been
open
for
public
comment.
First
from
persons
in
the
meeting
room
who
may
begin
making
their
way
to
the
microphone,
then
those
joining
virtually
all
speakers
must
identify
themselves
and
whether
speaking
as
an
individual,
which
you
will
be
allocated,
two
minutes
or
as
the
appointed
spokesperson
of
a
group
in
which
you
will
be
allocated
five
minutes
for
those
attending
virtually.
F
T
Foreign
good
evening,
my
name
is
Joseph
Cormier
and
I'm
from
Owings
Maryland
I'm,
going
to
talk
on
behalf
of
myself
this
evening.
I
want
to
start
by
thanking
both
boards
for
passing,
that
budget,
making
sure
that
we
had
the
increases
for
support
staff
and
Educators
all
across
the
board
this
year.
I
think
we've
done
a
good
job
talking
tonight
and
collaborating
for
the
first
time
in
quite
a
few
years
when
you
continue
the
discussion
on
the
scope
of
this
audit.
T
I
hope
that
we
go
from
the
point
that
Dr
Townsville
took
over
because
he's
made
so
many
changes
in
this
last
year.
That
I
don't
know
if
looking
at
all
the
processes
from
before
that
are
going
to
produce
anything
that
he
hasn't
already
slimmed
down.
So
when
we
go
forward
in
this
audit,
we
should
be
looking
at
where
we've
already
changed
our
processes
and
how
we
can
make
them
better.
T
When
we
talk
about
the
the
cost
saving
or
the
the
cost,
sharing
I'm
glad
that
the
County
Commissioners
have
agreed
to
pay
for
the
whole
thing,
because
it
doesn't
matter
who
pays
for
it.
For
me,
I
just
want
the
grass
to
get
mowed
I,
don't
care
who's
who's
on
the
truck
as
we're
looking
for
savings
on
things
we
all
buy
paper,
we
all
buy,
color
ink
I
know
we
got
color
ink
money.
T
We
all
buy
bulk,
Fuel
and
utilities
anything
that
we
can
do
to
share
that
cost
or
lower
it.
You
know
between
the
two
boards,
the
two
entities,
it's
all
my
tax
money
between
chest
packs
and
Anne-Marie
Gardens.
Let's
build
that
bridge
and
start
taking
field
trips
down
there
to
get
kids
doing
things
in
the
county
instead
of
taking
them
to
DC.
That's.
U
U
Sometimes
she
would
ask
for
240
dollars
and
if
I
found
out
that
she
had
230
dollars
in
her
bank
account
that'd
be
concerning
to
me.
So
it
was
concerning
when
we
found
23
million
dollars
when
you're
asking
for
24.
and
I
think
the
biggest
thing
about
this
is.
U
You
know
the
Commissioners
have
come
to
the
table
and
given
13.5
million
dollars
on
the
idea
that
they
want
to
see
what's
best
for
this
community,
the
taxpayers
also
need
to
know
that
their
money
is
spent
well,
because
if
you
take
that
24
million
dollars,
almost
a
thousand
dollars
goes
to
every
family
here
and
that's
their
money.
That
is
in
the
bank,
accounts
unbeknownst
to
them,
and
that
was
what
was
concerning
about
all
of
this.
So
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
we're
having
an
open
dialogue
and
I
know
Mr
Johnson
love
your
last
name.
U
Mr
Johnson
was
doing
his
best
that
he
can
on
trying
to
to
find
some
of
the
errors
that
were
in
the
past,
but
the
past
does
matter.
The
leadership
of
the
past
does
matter,
because
it
is,
is
a
part
of
our
future
and
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
moving
forward,
we
have
the
taxpayers
best
interest
in
mind.
Thank
you.
S
S
The
Board
of
Ed
is
a
public
fiduciary
and
so
is
the
board
of
County
Commissioners
and
you
all
are
answerable
to
your
beneficiaries.
I
stated
this
to
miss
clagon.
You
all
are
answerable
and
have
to
give.
If
there
are
any
questions
by
the
beneficiaries
who
happen
to
be
the
parents
and
the
taxpayers,
you
have
to
give
that
information
or
you
all
can
be
taken
out
of
the
realm
of
of
being
in
charge.
S
So
I'm
very
glad
to
see
tonight
I'm
very
glad
to
hear
the
comments
that
were
made
by
the
Boe
and
the
boccc,
because
this
is
taxpayer
money
you
all
have
to
work
collaboratively.
You
all
need
to
sit
down
and
make
sure
that
everything
that's
done
is
done
for
the
parents,
the
student
and
the
beneficiary
and
I
want.
E
E
B
V
V
I've
not
heard
a
compelling
evidence-based
argument
to
support
the
expenditure
of
a
performance
audit.
So
therefore,
I
do
not
support
a
performance
audit
being
done.
What
are
the
issues?
I've
heard
a
lot
of
banter
about
what
is
suspected
but
I
believe
the
board
of
education
did
a
pretty
good
job
of
explaining
your
questions.
V
The
district's
budget
book
is
Crystal
Clear
when
you
take
the
time
line
by
line
per
Department
to
see
how
each
dollar
supports
each
child
per
classroom
as
elected
officials
I
better.
A
better
use
of
your
time
and
money
is
to
ask
the
school
system
CFO
in
the
County's
finance
department,
to
meet
to
gain
a
better
understanding
on
how
public
education
is
budgeted
from
subject
matter
experts.
V
Finally,
it's
disappointing
to
hear
the
Board
of
Education
received
the
eight
discussion
topics
pertinent
to
their
ability
to
make
an
informed
decision
two
minutes
before
this
meeting.
Good
faith.
Transparency
is
expected
both
ways
since
you
asked
for
transparency.
I
would
think
that
would
work
both
ways.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
I
Hi
Jerry
Bell
from
Chesapeake
Beach
speaking
for
myself,
I've
been
a
budget
analyst
for
the
City
of
New.
York,
worked
on
a
program
to
eliminate
the
budget
Gap
where
we
saved
the
city,
580
million
dollars
and
from
what
I've
heard
tonight.
As
former
budget
analyst
I,
don't
think
you're
going
to
find
the
cost
savings
that
you're
hoping
to
find
in
the
audit
that
you've
proposed
the
audit,
as
proposed
and
I'll,
wait
to
see
the
revised
scope,
but
as
those
nine
items
were
presented
tonight,
that's
not
a
blueprint
for
an
audit.
I
That's
a
phishing,
Expedition
and
I
think
that
probably
the
answers
that
would
best
serve
you
are
in
the
budget
documents.
I
think
that
as
Commissioners,
you
can
always
go
back
to
the
Board
of
Ed
and
ask
for
clarification.
You've
got
some
great
lawyers.
I
If
you
have
questions
about
procurement
and
whether
or
not
it's
meeting,
State
and
County
and
local
regulations,
I
think
you've
got
the
resources
to
solve
it
without
outlay
of
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars,
which
is
probably
what
an
audit
is
going
to
end
up
costing
you
to
find
that
you
aren't
going
to
be
able
to
save
the
cost
of
the
audit.
That's
what
I've
got
thank.
I
Q
Q
Q
This
directly
hurts
all
the
homeowners,
the
parents,
your
constituents,
you
were
shocked
by
Dr
townsell's
request
for
funds,
but
you
you
are
admitting
you
have
no
clue
about
the
new
State
education
outlines
with
the
blueprint
and
the
costs
associated
with
it.
You
admit
the
money
for
this
audit.
That's
a
schedule
to
be
done
in
the
next
three
years
will
be
paid
by
the
taxpayers
because
of
your
own
inadequacies.
Our
Boe
has
kept
us
rated
at
higher
levels
than
what
our
bocc
members
have
been
able
to
manage.
Q
I
will
speak
with
all
of
my
constituents,
neighbors
Friends
Church
members,
and
ask
them
to
stop
to
ask
you
to
stop
wasting
our
time
and
hundreds
of
dollars
in
an
audit
because
you're
throwing
away
their
money
before
you
ask
to
work
as
a
team
with
the
Boe.
You
need
to
look
into
your
own
misunderstanding
misspending.
Q
We
are
not
currently
asking
for
a
special
audit
of
the
current
bocc
or
Mark
Willis
Planning
and
Zoning
job,
but
perhaps
we
should
do
that.
First,
it's
fiscally
a
huge
burden
to
hear
that
the
kettle
is
calling
the
pot
black.
Please
take
care
of
the
job.
We
voted
you
for
not
for
what
we
voted
them
for.
F
Nathan,
are
there
any
individuals
via
Zoom.