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Planning Commission meeting 2-28-2023
F
B
E
J
J
It's
it's
in
our
opinion,
a
beautiful
piece
of
work
and
it
meets
the
requirements
of
the
the
cities,
art
program,
and
so
there
was
one
comment
by
commissioner
Davidson
to
possibly
add
decorative
Stones
around
the
the
structure
or
the
sculpture
so
as
to
prevent
vehicles
from
from
running
into
it,
and
that
was
received
not
necessarily
going
to
happen,
but
they
will
take
that
into
consideration
with
or
without
that.
Though
we
we
approve
of
the
the
artwork.
B
A
A
A
So
this
notice
of
public
hearing
was
posted
at
the
Camarillo
City
Hall
and
the
city's
website
and
published
in
our
newspaper
the
camrio
acorn
next
slide.
Please,
the
recommendation
on
the
proposed
ordinance
is
exempt
from
the
California
Environmental
Quality
act
under
the
state
SQL
guidelines,
specifically
section
15060
C2,
because
this
item
will
not
result
in
a
director
reasonably
foreseeable,
indirect
physical
change
to
the
environment.
There
are
some
other
sections
as
well,
but
we'll
just
stick
to
that
and
feel
free
to
read
the
other
ones
in
the
report.
Next
slide,
please.
A
So,
basically,
the
city
adopted
the
economic
development
strategic
plan
back
in
2018
and
a
high
priority
initiative
of
that
plan
is
to
enhance
camarillo's
business
environment,
specifically
positioning
Camario
as
a
place
for
the
growth
of
the
Region's
biotech
cluster.
That
includes
looking
at
our
land
use
policies
and
also
targeted
business
attraction,
existing
firm
retention
and
expansion
and
economic
development
marketing.
A
So
the
basically
the
the
plan
talks
about
biotech,
biopharmaceuticals
and
so
that's
part
of
the
the
umbrella
of
life
science
and
life.
Science
includes
biotech
and
pharmaceutical
and
the
main
difference
between
biotech
and
pharmaceuticals.
Biotech
is
microorganisms
and
biological
or
cellular
techniques,
and
then
Pharmaceuticals
chemicals
and
synthetic
processes,
so
life
science
is
the
term
that
we're
using
tonight
and
that
kind
of
includes
all
of
those
Industries.
A
A
So
staff
conducted
an
in-depth
analysis
of
life
science
back
in
2022
we
spoke
with
developers,
investors,
businesses,
real
estate
brokers,
non-profits
government
organizations
Academia
and
really
got
a
full
picture
of
what
it
takes
to
support
the
life
science
sector.
Here
in
Camarillo,
we
also
analyzed
our
municipal
code
in
relation
to
that
feedback
from
the
industry
and
found
some
discrepancies
during
the
September
22nd
Economic
Development
land
use
committee.
A
We
presented
a
white
paper
and
the
recommendations
for
these
text
amendments
and
then
the
committee
recommended
we
bring
back
the
red
line
specifically,
so
we
did
so
on
November
22nd.
They
reviewed
the
proposed
Red
Line
in
a
unanimous
unanimously
supported
that
zoning
ordinance
text
Amendment
next
slide,
so
title
19,
which
you're
all
familiar
with
generally
regulates
the
location
and
use
of
building
structures
and
land
in
the
city,
as
well
as
the
permitting
procedures
for
those
uses
next
slide.
A
A
zoning
ordinance
text
amendment
is
the
procedure
to
amend
the
Camry
municipal
code
and
the
staff
or
the
public
can
initiate
that
procedure.
The
process
is,
it
goes
through
our
Economic
Development
Landings
committee,
then
Planning,
Commission
and
then
city
council
for
public
hearing
and
for
adoption
next
slide.
So
what
we
found
is
that
we
need
to
do
some
Municipal
Code
amendments
to
support
this
industry,
so
each
life
science
company
is
unique
and
the
environment
must
adapt
to
the
needs
of
the
company.
A
So
Building
Systems
are
built
specifically
for
the
company,
but
there
are
some
main
focuses
and
the
main
focus
is
the
structure
of
the
building,
the
HVAC
and
the
power.
The
structure
needs
to
handle
the
increased
floor
and
roof
loads
to
accommodate
heavy
equipment.
It
also
has
to
have
a
appropriate
Florida,
a
Florida
floor
to
floor
height,
which
is
about
14
to
16
feet
to
accommodate
the
HVAC
equipment.
A
The
labor
environment
does
not
recirculate
the
air
internally
and
instead
exits
the
space
between
60
times
per
hour,
so
about
once
every
minute,
it's
recirculating
all
the
air
in
the
facility.
The
power
needs
to
be
supplied
at
higher
levels,
to
accommodate
that
and
and
the
equipment
in
the
facility
as
well.
It
also
needs
to
be
consistently
powered
and
they
need
to
have
power
generators
on
standby
in
case
of
a
power
outage.
So
if
the
power
goes
out
a
life
science
company,
they
lose
all
of
their
product,
which
could
have
been
growing
for
multiple
years.
A
There
are
different
types
of
spaces,
there's
typically
r
d
spaces,
there's
something
called
a
vivarium
which
is
a
stable
environment
for
plants
and
animals
where
they
observe
them
under
stable
conditions
and
tests,
equipment
and
Space
is
really
Limited
in
times
of
the
essence.
So
Redevelopment
is
a
preference
for
development
and
they
typically
look
at
ministerial
processes
and
desire.
Those
the
discretionary
processes
could
be
a
deal
breaker.
A
So
not
they're
not
going
to
wait
a
few
months
to
see
if
a
building
they're
going
to
buy
will
work
or
not
that's
kind
of
the
consensus
among
the
industry,
so
office
properties
are
ideal
because
they
have
nearby
amenities,
but
they
can
be
difficult
to
convert.
Industrial
properties
may
work
better
with
their
larger,
solid
structures
with
high
floor
to
floor
potentials,
but
that
really
depends
on
the
company.
So
so
next
slide,
please.
A
So
this
is
a
map
of
our
LM
M1
and
po
zones,
light
manufacturing,
manufacturing
and
professional
office,
and
currently
we
have
about
10.8
million
square
feet
of
industrial,
but
we
have
a
really
low
vacancy
rate.
It's
1.9
percent
vacancy,
so
a
lot
of
challenge
to
get
in
there.
Our
office
zones
have
8.2
percent
vacancy
rate
and
2.6
million
square
feet.
So
we're
always
looking
at
ways
to
improve
that.
So
a
lot
of
our
recommendations
are
for
the
professional
office
Zone
as
well.
A
A
Okay,
so
right
now
the
way
we
operate
is
we
don't
include
the
parapet
height
on
the
building
as
part
of
the
roof
or
as
part
of
the
height
calculation.
So
our
code
doesn't
say
that
specifically,
so
that's
a
gray
Zone
that
we're
trying
to
clear
up
in
our
code.
So
we
wrote
that
in
so
rooftop
equipment
and
parapet
screening
are
not
included
in
Building
height
calculations
and
just
being
expressed
about
that
next
slide.
A
So
you'll
see
here
a
picture
of
the
Alexandria
real
estate
development
up
in
Thousand
Oaks
and
if
you're
looking
at
it,
you
can
actually
see
some
of
that
rooftop
equipment
that
it
is
screened,
but
not
a
hundred
percent,
and
so
you
can
actually
see
that
behind
that
Gray,
colored,
mesh
and
you'll
see
that
the
exhaust
is
a
little
bit
separated
from
the
mechanical
equipment.
So
it
can
accommodate
that
fast.
A
So
we're
also
clarifying
our
code
because,
right
now
our
code
says
in
the
PO
Zone
that
every
use
requires
a
planned
development
permit
and
typically,
the
way
we
operate
is
that's
only
if
it's
for
new
building,
so
we're
just
clarifying
our
code.
If
you're
going
to
build
a
new
building,
you'll
still
need
a
plan
development
permit.
But
if
it's
just
a
tenant
Improvement
to
get
a
business
in
there,
they
don't
need
that.
So
just
clarifying
that
and
that
helps
a
lot
of
other
industry
types
as
well
in
that
sector.
A
Next
slide
we're
also
talking
about
changing
the
height
allowance
for
the
PO
Zone
So.
Currently,
you
can
only
exceed
25
feet
if
you
do
a
cup,
so
we're
making
that
clear
that
you
could
we
could
remove
that
discretionary
process
and
make
it
so
they
can
go
up
to
35
feet
which
would
accommodate
that
that
floor
to
floor
height,
that's
required
for
those
buildings.
Any
new
development
would
still
need
a
plan
development
permit,
though,
and
would
still
come
through
this
Commission
next
slide.
A
So
standby
generators
are
required
and
technically
that's
outside
of
the
planning
commission's
scope,
because
it's
in
title
10.,
but
it
does
impact
the
land
use
a
little
bit.
So
just
sharing
that
and
here's
another
building
down
the
street
from
that
one
from
Alexandria
and
you
can
see
in
the
blue
circle
to
the
left.
A
So
it
kind
of
supports
that
as
well
so
parking
requirements,
we
created
a
new
parking
category
for
life,
science
and
advanced
Tech
and
after
we
did
our
research
on
life
science,
we
started
researching
advanced
technology
companies
and
we
found
that
the
research
person
in
both
companies
operates
the
very
very
similarly
which
is
they
have
an
office
and
they
have
a
lab.
But
they
share
the
time
between
them,
so
so
they're
not
occupying
all
the
space
100
of
the
time,
which
would
lead
to
us
to
believe
that
there's
less
parking
requirements.
A
So
we
also
took
that
same
logic
and
looked
at
other
cities
and
found
that
they
exclude
common
areas
from
parking
calculations.
So
that's
corridors,
lobbies,
stairways,
restrooms,
elevators,
mechanical
shafts
and
then
employee.
Only
kitchens,
lunchrooms
exercise
rooms,
locker
rooms
and
the
logic
there
is
you'll
be
in
your
office
or
you'll,
be
in
one
of
those
spaces,
so
never
both
at
the
same
time.
So
therefore,
we
could
exclude
those
from
parking
calculations
as
well,
and
that
gets
us
a
little
more
competitive
with
the
other
cities
nearby.
A
So
here's
our
timeline-
and
we
went
back
to
the
economic
development
committee-
twice
we're
here
today.
If
the
Planning
Commission
recommends
us
to
council
we'll
go
to
Council
next
month
and
then
in
April
they'll
have
the
second
reading.
So
then
we
should
be
good
to
go
and
then
so
here's
our
recommendation
just
to
adopt
a
resolution
recommending
approval
to
city
council
for
this
amendment
and
I'm
open
for
questions.
J
A
J
D
E
J
N
J
Oh
yes,
so
if
you
put
exclusively
for
observation
or
research,
BioLife,
science,
research
and
development
laboratory
for
principal
use,
I
think
that
ties
That
to
the
exclusivity
of
of
this
definition
and
and
I
know
I'm
kind
of
splitting
here
here.
But
it
could.
The
sentence
could
be
read
in
a
different
if
in
a
different
way,.
J
Yeah,
if
you
put
exclusive
in
front
of
four
it
reads:
conditions
simulating
their
natural
environment
exclusively
for
observation
by
life,
science,
research
and
development,
and
if
you
don't
have
that
in
there,
it
could
could
read,
simulating
their
natural
environment
for
observation
or
research,
BioLife,
science,
research,
Development,
Laboratory,
principal
use,
so
I
know
it's
semantics
and
I.
Think
it's
grammatically
correct
the
way
it
is.
But
if
you
insert
the
word
exclusively
in
front
of
four,
it
will
erase
any
foreign
opportunity
for
misinterpretation.
I
O
Thank
you,
yeah.
Thank
you
for
the
presentation,
I
think
it's
it's
overall,
a
very
positive
change
for
the
city
for
economic
development
purposes
and
job
development,
particularly
for
the
the
range
of
professional.
You
know,
admin
support
jobs,
which
is
a
clarification
about
the
sequa
exemption
here.
The
SQL
exemption
that's
being
proposed
is
for
the
ordinance
itself,
but
upon
a
permit
for
a
construction
for
this
purpose,
then
the
sequa
review
would
be
again.
It
would
be
a
separate
analysis.
Is
that
right,
we're
not
exempting
all
the
permits.
O
O
O
O
Modification
I
see
okay,
great.
Thank
you.
Thanks
for
the
clarification
for
the
power
generators,
I
understand
the
importance
for
these.
The
nature
of
these
businesses
is
that
all
electric
is
our
requirement
for
all
electric
generators
or
is
the
way
the
the
language
is
written.
Does
it
allow
for
diesel
yeah.
A
R
O
I
think
particularly
given
the
different
situations
under
which
they
can
run
and
given
that
this
is
a
whole
new
category
of
businesses,
I
would
suggest,
including
a
Prohibition
of
diesel,
unless
you
know
it's
under
a
very
narrow
type
of
emergency
that
would
have
to
be
specifically
defined
otherwise
or
undermining
the
work
that
the
city
is
doing
on.
You
know
the
climate
climate
work
and
moving
toward
cleaner
air
and
transitioning
off
of
fossil
fuels.
That.
D
O
D
S
E
Q
K
A
K
A
A
K
I
would
hate
to
have
restrict
it
so
far
that
that's
a
deterrent
for
business
to
come
in
if
they're
not
going
to
be
on
all
the
time.
So
I
think
that
that
maybe
the
as
as
things
go
greener,
it
might
there'd,
probably
be
some
state
law
or
something
that
would
would
require
that.
But
I
don't
know
if
that
would
restrict
people
further.
Do
you
have
a
feeling
about
that?
Would
that
discourage
businesses
I.
A
Know
that
if
they
don't
have
a
generator
they're
not
going
to
be
in
the
city,
it's
that
simple,
because
they
you
know
if,
if
they're
growing
products
for
multiple
years
and
then
the
power
goes
out
and
everything
dies
that
kills
their
company
and
they
can't
succeed
here
in
the
city.
That's
that's
very
clear
and.
K
Then
just
the
clarification
on,
because
you
know
it's
bio
Tech
and
you
know
the
if
something
escapes
from
the
lab
or
or
whatever
is
that
is
that
under
a
different
regulation
that
wouldn't
come
under
the
I
mean.
Would
the
city
have
the
expertise
to
to
regulate
those
kind
of
things
or
that
within
their
own
industry,
they're
regulated.
A
K
A
So
the
FDA
is
part
of
that
process
and
I
would
have
to
do
a
little
more
investigation
into
who
exactly
regulates
that.
But
I
do
know
that
everything
in
the
lab
has
you
know:
labels
they're
certified
by
an
organization,
even
the
trash
cans.
You
know
I've
been
to
a
vivarium
I'm
up
in
Thousand,
Oaks,
very
tight.
A
K
I
O
Okay,
falling
on
the
on
the
generator
question:
you
know
these
are
highly
sophisticated
businesses
and
I
would
be
surprised
if
they
could
not
afford
electric
generators,
rather
than
have
to
rely
on
Old
School
diesel
generators
again,
given
the
nature
of
the
business
and
the
Investments
That,
these
businesses
make
you
know.
Camrio
is
such
a
wonderful
Community
for
many
reasons,
and
one
of
which
is
that
it's
not
a
highly,
we
have
clean
air.
You
know
we
have.
O
If
it's
a
broad
definition,
then
you
know
you
could
have
a
diesel
generator
running
regularly
for
many
hours,
so
I
I
highly
suggest
that
we
look
at
that
particular
question
closely
and
then
also
going
to
my
colleague's
question
about
you
know
what
entity
is
charged
with
responding
to
some
emergency
like
a
health
type
of
safety
emergency?
Is
there
a
city
plan
for
how
to
respond?
In
case
or
or
to
be
some
Escape
of
some
pathogen
or
or
animals
that
are
being
observed
and
studied,.
B
B
Where
are
the
filters?
Are
they
at
both
sections?
Is
it
filtered
before
it
goes
back
out
in
the
air
for
all
of
us?
You
know
to
be
spread
around
and
then
filtered
when
it
comes
back
in
you
know,
or
what
type
of
protections
are
there
to
keep
from
releasing
some
of
this
out?
You
know
into
the
air
for
everybody.
A
Yeah
I
would
say
so.
We
have
like
I,
said
at
eight
percent
vacancy
rate
in
our
office
sector,
so
theoretically
somebody
could
purchase
a
building
and
redevelop
it.
In
our
industrial
sector
we
have
a
1.8
percent
vacancy
rate,
but
that's
that
still
means
there's
vacant
buildings,
so
yeah
we
have.
We
have
available
properties
to
redevelop
and
amending
the
code
like
this
will
make
that
more
feasible
for
those
companies.
Okay,.
B
B
When
we
were
talking
about
not
having
to
go
through
the
whole
permit
process,
if
they're,
using
an
exact
same
building
and
just
changing
as
tenant
improvements
inside,
does
that
include
adding
the
generator
outside
and
such
I
couldn't
remember
if
we
said,
as
far
as
like
the
equipment
on
the
roof
on
anything
outside,
is
that
still
be
included
in
as
a
tenant
Improvement
that
doesn't
have
to
go
through
evaluation
or
would
that
have
to
go
through
some
sort
of
process?
No.
T
D
T
D
T
B
On
that,
I
don't
have
any
additional
questions
after
all,
the
ones
that
have
been
asked
right
now,
any
other
questions,
no,
no,
okay,
all
right.
So
with
that
I'll
open
the
public
hearing,
if
there's
any
public
that
want
to
come
and
have
comments
on
this
item
agenda
item
no
cards,
no
comments.
Okay,
we
will
close
the
public
hearing.
G
G
G
Just
add
that
as
I
just
happen
to
know
from
my
old
job
that
they're
we
put
in
a
generator
and
we
also
investigated
putting
in
a
Tesla
building,
not
a
Tesla
wall,
but
a
an
entire
building.
That
was
a
Tesla
and
it's
it's
quite
expensive
is
in
the
neighborhood
of
three
to
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
to
do
that,
so
that
we'd
ended
up
doing
that.
G
We
went
with
this
tier
four
and
I
had
to
look
it
up,
so
I
couldn't
remember
the
terminology,
but
we
went
with
a
tier
four
generator
that
is
ultralight,
ultra
low
emissions.
So
I'm
not
trying
to
argue
your
point,
I
think
it's
very
valid
and
I
appreciate
the
the
beauty
of
Camarillo
too
so
I
just
add
that
as
a
possible
way
to
bridge
that.
J
Yeah
I
don't
have
much
comment
on
the
generator
because
I
don't
know
much
about
how
often
they're
used
what
I,
what
I
heard
was
that
they
don't
go
into
use
very
often
so
that
it
is
a
low
level
concern.
But
again
my
you
brought
up
I
think
some
very
important
items
here
and
I'm
I'm
interested
in
what
the
rest
of
the
commission
has
to
say
about
it.
K
Favor
of
ordinance,
it
kind
of
makes
you
know
business,
business
friendly
and
will
attract
businesses
and
and
like
Thomas,
saying
I,
don't
think
I
know
enough
about
generators
and
want
to
put
some
restriction.
That's
going
to
make
it
feasible
in
the
whole
ordinance
is
you
know
we
change
an
ordinance
and
it
it
doesn't
work
because
something's,
not
feasible
and
and
so
I
think
that
Rob
made
a
good
point
about
the
tier
four.
But
I
don't
know
if
we
know
enough
to
put
that
kind
of
language
in
there.
K
It
seems
like
when
they
come
in
for
the
permit.
You
know,
because
if
we
demand
a
certain
thing
that
that's
not
feasible,
then
we're
not
going
to
have
any
of
these
businesses
come
anyway.
So
I
think
we
ought
to
leave
the
flexibility
and
I
think
as
things
evolve,
which
they
are
as
Rob
was
saying
that
there's
going
to
be
some
new
EPA
requirements
that
will
probably
take
care
of
itself
anyway
without
scaring
businesses
away
from
the
outset.
So.
B
Commissioner,
Davidson
on
the
tier
four
on
these
now
I'm
familiar
with,
what's
coming
down
the
road
like
for
associations
of
gardening
and
stuff,
as
far
as
small
off-road
Motors
engines,
whatever
you're
going
to
have
to
go
to
all
electric.
So
as
what
you're
talking
about
kind
of
tied
in
with
that,
maybe
just
coming
down
the
work
well
coming
down
the
pike
to
be
put
in
place
at
some
point
in
the
very
near
future.
I.
G
G
I
do
know
that
the
cost
of
of
this
tier
4
only
adds
one
to
three
percent
to
the
cost.
I
mean
it's
minimal
when
the
the
guy
who's
built
the
the
contractor
that
was
building
our
facility
talked
about.
He
said
it's,
it's
nothing,
I
mean
it's,
it's
nothing
to
add
or
to
have
one
that's
compliant.
So
I
can
tell
you
that,
but
the
rest,
I
I,
think
staff
would
have
to
to
research
it
and
to
your
point
Dave.
G
Perhaps
we
it
can
be
done
in
such
a
way
that
it's
not
part
of
the
ordinance,
but
it's
part
of
Staff
instructions
that
it's
a
you
know,
kind
of
a
ministerial
requirement.
I,
don't
know
I
mean
staff
would
be
again
more
appropriate
to
to
address
that,
but
I
think
there's
ways
that
we
could
do
it.
That
would
be
if
that's
acceptable
to
you
know
if
you'd
be
amenable
to
that.
B
Yeah
and
I
was
just
kind
of
kind
of
tying
that
in
that,
if
they're
coming
down
from
Sacramento,
you
know
with
rules
to
change
from
gas
to
electric.
You
know
at
the
small
end,
starting
up
and
some
of
the
generators
aren't
a
whole
lot
bigger
than
some
of
the
lot
commercial
lawn
mowers
and
such
you
know,
as
far
as
what
they
produce
so
and
they're
used
a
lot
more
often
just.
W
T
O
You
know
we
don't
have
a
definition
for
emergency
situation
and
I
think
that
is
an
important
factor,
because
that
would
let
us
know
how
narrow
or
broad
you
know
the
the
usage
for
the
backup
generators
would
be
and
to
to
there's
a
recommendation.
I
hear,
or
maybe
a
suggestion
that
some
additional
research
would
be
helpful
for
us
to
be
able
to
better
understand
this
and
where
the
standard
would
fit
right,
whether
it's
in
the
ordinance
or
Upon,
a
review,
whether
it's
ministerial
or
for
a
new
building.
B
K
S
K
D
Correct
and
then
and
for
maintenance
and
testing.
So
if
I
could
just
kind
of
jump
in
a
little
bit
here,
so
one
of
the
things
that
I'm
kind
of
hearing
and
I
just
kind
of
want
to
point
out
that
we're
kind
of
singling
out
one
use
now
and
if
we're
going
to
make
sweeping
you
know
a
change
like
this,
it
really
should
apply
to
the
entire
Zone
and
not
just
a
specific
use.
D
Y
D
Zone
and
I
don't
think
we
should
single
out
one
particular
use
that
we're
trying
to
attract
to
the
city.
So
I
think
maybe
look
at
you
know
from
that
perspective
or
add
a
definition
for
the
the
emergency
to
be
very
clear.
You
know
it's
only
in
you
know
a
power
outage
or
whatever
testing
and
maintenance.
You
know
whatever
power
outage
declared
by
you
know
the
Edison
or
you
know
whatever
you
guys.
However,
you
guys
want
to
craft
it.
Z
A
So
in
our
code
we
have
two
definitions,
not
necessarily
what
an
emergency
is,
but
we
have
emergency
machinery,
which
means
any
Machinery
vehicle
or
alarm
used,
employed
performed
or
operated
in
an
effort
to
protect,
provide
or
restore
safe
conditions
in
the
community
or
used
by
private
or
public
utility.
When
we're
restoring
utility
service
and
then
emergency
work
means
work
made
to
protect,
provide
or
restore
safe
conditions,
yeah,
ultimately
in
private
areas
as
well.
So
there's
not
a
definition
of
emergency,
though
per
se,
so.
O
Yeah
I
appreciate
the
suggestion
and
agree
that
it
should
not
just
apply
to
this
particular
category
of
use
and
that
could
be
discriminatory
also
under
law,
so
and
don't
want
to
hold
us
up
again.
I
I
think
this
is
a
great
economic
and
job
development
opportunity.
But
if
this
is
a
gap,
then
it's
something
that
you
know.
We
have
an
opportunity
to
be
clear
and
ensure
that
we
don't
have
an
overuse
of
of
diesel
or
you
know
highly
polluting
equipment.
B
E
J
D
A
T
F
B
K
J
Just
before
that,
I'll
make
a
motion
to
revise
the
definition
of
the
barium,
as
we've
discussed
earlier
in
this
hearing
and
to
read
definition
of
vivarium
means
a
room
or
portion
of
a
building
designed
for
the
keeping
and
raising
of
animals
or
plants
under
conditions
simulating
their
natural
environment
exclusively.
That's
a
weird
addition
to
this
definition
exclusively
for
observation
or
research
by
a
life.
Science,
research
and
development.
Slash
laboratory,
slash,
principal
use
period.
AA
AB
AC
AD
I
B
G
B
B
AE
He's
The
affidavian,
chairperson,
Madam,
chairperson
and
members
of
the
Planning
Commission.
So
this
this
item
is
going
to
be
read
by
city
attorney's
office.
It
is
implementation
of
program
16
of
the
housing
element,
so
as
part
of
program
16,
the
city
is
required
to
evaluate
certain
bills.
This
is
going
to
be
supportive.
Housing
emergency
strike
that
Emergency
Shelters,
low
barrier,
navigation,
centers,
Supportive,
Housing
and
employee
housing.
AE
These
are
all
bills
that
were
passed
in
previous
legislative
cycles
and
just
haven't
made
their
way
into
the
municipal
code
and
so
program
16
as
it
was
adopted
by
the
city
council
in
the
housing
element
back
in
November
or
October.
Excuse
me:
it
identified
those
items
and
it
established
a
timeline
for
the
city
to
implement
them.
AE
So
again,
all
of
this
is
mandated
by
state
law
in
December
of
2022,
the
State
Department
of
Housing
Community
Development
hcd
sent
staff
a
letter
indicating
that
they're,
providing
rather
conditional
certification
of
the
housing
element.
That
certification
is
conditioned
upon
the
city,
implementing
program,
21
and
program.
16
of
the
housing
element
you'll
hear
program.
21
is
the
next
item.
This
item
here
is
program
16.
AE
and
so
that
letter
identified
program
16
and
identified
that
the
city
has
a
essentially
a
responsibility
to
timely,
implement
it,
and
so,
if
you
look
at
this
slide
here,
on
the
left
hand
side,
this
is
program
16..
On
the
left
hand,
side,
you
can
see
the
different
bills
that
are
identified
there.
Those
are
the
bills
that
I
I
just
mentioned
and
on
the
right
hand,
side
you
can
see.
AE
AE
So
these
next
couple
slides
are
just
a
brief
summary
of
the
different
bills,
beginning
with
Emergency
Shelters.
These
are
this:
is
housing
with
minimal
Supportive
Services
for
a
limited
duration
and
state
law
requires
that
these
be
permitted
in
residential
zones
and
be
permitted
in
enough
residential
zones
to
accommodate
the
city's
homelessness
count,
and
so
as
proposed.
This
is
a
list
of
the
zones
where
the
municipal
code
is
being
amended.
By
amending
these
zones,
the
municipal
code
will
come
into
compliance
with
state
law
next
slide.
Please.
AE
Next
is
low
barrier
navigation
centers
again
this
is
housing,
temporary
housing,
a
low
barrier.
What
that
means
that
there's
low
barriers
to
entry,
so
essentially
these
are
facilities
that
are
going
to
allow
homeless
persons
to
bring
personal
belongings
to
to
come
to
bring
their
pets
and
again,
it's
temporary
in
nature,
the
navigation
Center.
What
that
refers
to
is
essentially
these
facilities
have
case
managers,
managers
on
site
that
are
intended
to
connect
homeless
persons
with
public
services.
So
you
know
public
health
things
of
that
nature.
AE
AE
So
the
employee
Housing
Act,
so
this
requires
Farm
worker
housing
and
employee
housing
to
be
treated
the
same
as
Agricultural
and
residential
uses,
and
so
the
city
is
required
to
amend
those
zones
that
are
listed
there
on
that
slide.
Agricultural
and
just
because
it's
treated
the
same
as
Agriculture
and
residential
doesn't
necessarily
mean
it's.
It's
a
free-for-all.
There's
still
other
state
laws
that
apply
things
like
the
building
code
and
the
health
and
safety
code.
AE
AE
This
must
be
permitted
by
state
law
and
zones
for
mixed
uses
and
multi-family
uses
are
principally
permitted.
So
in
the
city
there
aren't
any
zones
where
those
uses
are
principally
permitted.
So
there's
no
real
action.
The
city
is
required
to
do
to
implement
this.
Aside
from
what
the
ordinance
proposes
to
do
is
is
add
it
to
the
debt
or
excuse
me
update
the
definition
of
Supportive
Housing
to
be
consistent
with
the
state
law
and
that's
kind
of
above
and
beyond
what
we're
required
to
do
with
that.
AE
At
this
point,
and
that's
a
brief
summary
again,
this
is
in
response
to
State
mandates,
implementing
State
mandates
and
implementing
program
16
to
obtain
certification
from
hcd
or
the
housing
element.
So
staff's
recommendation
here
would
be
to
recommend
approval
of
the
or
of
the
resin
I'm.
Sorry
adopt
a
resolution
recommending
approval
of
an
ordinance
making.
These
changes
to
the
municipal
code.
AG
K
S
H
AE
I
G
AE
J
It
indicates
that
unless
this,
if
a
development
proposes
to
include
10
or
more
units,
the
development
must
connect
to
an
existing
Municipal
sewer
system
that
has
adequate
capacity
to
serve
the
project
unless
the
city
has
adopted
a
management
program
for
on-site,
water,
wastewater
treatment
systems
and
and
then
in
the
event
that
the
city
has
adopted
a
management
program
for
on-site
wastewater
treatment,
those
requirements
apply
to
the
development.
Well,
the
city
is
not
developed.
A
a
management
program
for
on-site
wastewater
treatment
system,
so
I
I
think
that
that
portion
should
be
deleted.
Again.
AE
J
AE
Commissary,
commissioner
Murphy,
so
that
language
could
be
deleted
from
the
proposed
ordinance.
But
it's
it's
important
to
note
that
it
is
still
state
law
and
it
still
would
apply.
It
would
run
the
risk
of
the
city
not
being
a
position
to
implement
that
proposed
language.
If,
in
the
future,
it
should
adopt
such
a
plan.
J
Right,
so
it's
it's
that
the
state
wants
the
verbiage
in
there
than
just
in
case,
and
the
city
could
adopt
I
guess
a
program
in
this
year
or
next
year
or
whatever
it's
just
that
I.
It
gives
a
little
bit
of
false
hope
to
applicants
that
are
looking
at
this
and
thinking.
Oh,
we
could,
if
the
city
has
a
so
the
point
as
well,
if
it's
required
for
state
law,
then
I
know
from
experience
that,
with
these
State
mandates
that
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
flexibility
in
in
bending
those
mandates.
AE
The
point
is
we'll
received
a
commissioner.
Alternatively,
this
section
could
be
adopted
could
adopt
the
government
code
by
reference
where
it
wouldn't
contain
any
any
of
the
language
itself.
It
would
just
reference
the
particular
health
and
safety
code
if,
if
that
would
be
more
to
the
plant
commission's
liking,.
AE
So
alternate,
alternatively,
to
stating
the
code
section
in
the
municipal
code,
the
municipal
code
could
simply
reference
a
DOT
by
reference,
the
health
and
the
applicable
health
and
safety
code
on
this
matter.
So
the
verbiage
would
not
appear
in
the
municipal
code,
but
it
would
Point
applicants
to
the
health
and
safety
code
which
has
these
requirements.
AH
Madam,
chair
planning,
Commissioners
there
there
may
be
a
few,
our
water
Wastewater
excuse
me:
District
does
extend
outside
the
city,
so
you
find
it
more
in
the
rural
areas.
So
there
are
areas
that
used
to
be
rural
that
then
got
annexed
to
the
city.
So
there
there
probably
are
some
existing
homes
that
when
they
were
in
the
county
had
the
individual
Wastewater
systems.
You
know
septic
tanks,
different
kinds
of
systems
installed,
and
so
of
course,
when
we
annexed
a
larger
area,
there
would
be
some
so
like
apps.
Yes,
there
are
some.
AH
If,
if
there's
a
sewer,
if
it
fails,
let's
say
the
one:
that's
in
the
city
fails:
if
they're
within
200
feet
of
a
public
sewer
line,
they
do
have
to
connect
and
it's
more
environmental,
health,
the
county,
the
govern's
kind
of
the
septic
tank
and
the
regional
water
quality
control
board.
Okay,
quite
a
few.
We
just
let
people
know
whether
it
is
available,
whether
our
public
lines
are
available
for
the
plumbing
code
and
that's
200.
AH
Third
yeah,
so
the
camera
Sanitary
District
is,
is
what
is
available
to
serve
or
not
to
serve
and
the
actual,
let's
say
we're
too
far
away
our
system
and
they
have
to
put
in
an
individual
Wastewater
system.
Then
they
have
to
go
through
environmental
health
and
the
regional
water
quality
control
board
to
make
sure
they're
meeting
all
the
guidelines.
Okay,.
AH
AH
Then
they
might
have
to
build
some
sewer
Mains,
if
it's
just,
let's
say
above
mental
lane
or
some
of
the
areas
that
have
you
know
over
the
years
recent
more
recently
annexed,
so
there's
not
really
sewer
Mains
that
go
out
there.
They
have
installed
in
those
smaller
subdivision
what
we
call
dry
sewers
for
the
future
when
that
sewer
line
gets
connected
to
ours,
but
in
the
meantime
they
are
on
individual
Wastewater
systems.
In
those
areas
up,
you
know
off
of
Crestview.
J
B
AI
AJ
G
B
B
AO
B
B
B
AQ
AR
Okay,
I'm
brand
new
to
this,
my
name
is
Greg
bird
I'm,
a
I'm,
a
Camarillo
resident
I,
was
here
tonight
because
of
the
orange
card.
I
received
I
signed
up
for
the
E
on
the
agenda,
but
this
is
also
tied
to
it
as
well.
I
guess
so.
I
don't
know
if
this
is
the
right
time
for
my
public
comment
for
the
halfway.
AS
AR
U
AG
AB
W
D
AV
AW
Good
evening
so
I'll
be
presenting
a
program
21
by
wright-affordable
housing
projects.
Next
slide,
please
so
a
little
bit
of
background
for
you
all.
The
City
of
Camarillo,
revised
housing
element
was
adopted
by
the
city
council
on
October,
12,
2022
and
subsequently
provided
to
this
to
the
state
for
their
review.
Shortly
thereafter,
staff
received
a
letter
from
the
state
concerning
their
review
on
December
22nd
2022.
AW
program,
21
commits
the
city
to
amend
or
municipal
code
to
allow
by
right,
processing
of
housing
developments
containing
a
minimum
of
20
percent,
affordable
units
on
sites
identified
in
previous
housing
elements
and
program.
16
commits
the
city
to
a
mender
municipal
code
to
incorporate
State
legislation
which
will
be
addressed.
What
was
already
addressed
in
a
separate
Agenda
Report
next
slide.
Please.
AW
Oh,
it's:
okay.
Certain
sites
identified
in
the
recently
adopted
housing
element
for
future
development
were
also
identified
in
the
previous
housing
element
cycle,
as
these
sites
were
never
developed
and
also
reincorporate,
and
they
were
also
reincorporated
in
the
current
element.
State
law
requires
the
city
to
implement,
buy
right
Provisions,
to
make
these
specific
sites
easier
to
develop.
Pursuant
to
the
state's
housing
element
law,
a
buy
right
development
is
subject
to
a
ministerial
review.
It
doesn't
require
a
conditional
use,
permit
residential
plan
development
permit
or
any
other
discretionary
City
Review
or
approval
processes.
AW
AW
However,
a
buy
right
development
is
still
required
to
meet
the
written
objective
standards
set
forth
by
the
city
to
meet
the
city's
program.
21
housing
element,
commitment
staff
is
proposing
a
city
ordinance
or
I'm.
Sorry,
a
zoning
ordinance
amendment
to
update
the
city's
municipal
code
with
a
new
chapter
that
establishes
the
objective
standards
for
buy
right
developments.
The
proposed
chapter
will
impose
a
zoning
overlay
applicable
to
those
sites
that
are
identified
as
buy
right.
Developments
in
the
housing
element
buy
right.
AW
AW
The
CCM
sites
fall
under
the
camrio
common
strategic
plan
and
the
CMU
site
and
RPD
site
are
Under
The
Village
at
the
park
specific
plan
next
slide,
please.
So
here
we
have
the
CCM
site.
You
can
see
a
little
bit
hard
to
see
on
the
slide,
I
apologize,
but
we
have
the
Ponderosa
shopping
center
and
the
north
and
south
of
Pickwick.
It's
not
the
entirety
of
north
and
south
of
Pickwick,
but
just
those
outlined
Parcels
there
and,
of
course,
we're
kind
of
oriented
along
our
Neil
north
of
the
freeway.
Next
slide.
Thanks
locate.
AW
This
is
the
northeastern
kind
of
Unfinished
portion
of
the
Wickford
development
and
Village
at
the
park,
so
it
kind
of
sandwiched
between
existing
Wickford.
Then
you
have
the
school
to
the
East
and
then
to
the
north.
You
have
the
soccer
fields
next,
Slide
the
CMU
site,
also
located
in
village
at
the
park
on
that
I.
Think
it's
on
Village,
Commons
or
I
can't
read
it
from
here:
I
apologize,
but
really
just
east
of
the
Marriott
there
right
off
the
freeway
and
near
the
gas
station.
AW
So
as
far
as
standards
go
staff
utilized
existing
standards
within
the
respective
zones
and
specific
plans,
but
modified
them
as
needed
to
make
them
objective
and
a
little
word
on
what
that
means
objective.
So
state
law
is
really
clear
as
far
as
objectivity.
It
can't
leave
a
lot
of
room
for
interpretation
on
the
part
of
Staff.
You
know
you,
you
can't
make
a.
This
is
a
ridiculous
example
of
course,
but
you
can't
say
the
architecture
must
be
good.
You
know
it
has
to
be
objective.
You
know
the
architecture
must
be
Spanish
style.
AW
With
these
specific
outlined
elements,
that's
a
more
objective
standard
planning
and
public
work
staff
work
together
to
incorporate
the
regular
conditions
of
approval
for
a
project
and
to
a
standard.
So
on
a
traditional
cup
RPD,
we
have
these
conditions
of
approval
that
are
necessary
to
make
a
safe
good
project
and
because
we
kind
of
have
to
provide
these
to
developers
up
front
we've
done
so
and
baked
them.
In
to
this
zoning
ordinance,
two
standard
staff
is
proposing
to
include
in
the
updates
that
are
outside
of
just
that.
AW
Shifting
any
standards
to
purely
objective
are
the
elimination
of
RV
parking
standards
and
updating,
buy
right,
residential
plan
development,
common
open
space
standards
to
mirror
the
standards
of
the
camrio
commons
mixed
use.
Zone.
These
changes
are
proposed
in
alignment
with
consistent
development
on
the
sites
within
the
surrounding
area,
and
these
changes
are
also
consistent
with
the
types
of
concessions
and
or
waivers
of
Standards
developers
tend
to
get
for
affordable
units
anyway.
So
it's
these
are
some
of
the
things
they
regularly
ask
for.
AW
AW
So
the
economic
development
and
land
use
committee
had
a
chance
to
review
or
look
at
and
provide
some
comments
on
the
proposed
ordinance
as
well.
They
were
overall
supportive
of
the
ordinance
and
Dennis
hardgrave
who's.
The
owner
representative
of
the
CMU
site
spoke
and
gave
a
couple
recommended
tax
changes.
The
suggested
changes
were
that
aforementioned.
J
AW
That
correct,
that's,
absolutely
correct
and
it's.
It
is
a
key
point
that
they
can
choose
to
go
through
the
normal
process.
I
mean
I.
Think
we
at
the
city
we
tend
to
like
having
affordable
units.
But
if
a
developer
said
hey
I
don't
want
to
do
these
affordable
units,
they
may
well
choose
to
try
to
go
through
the
normal
process
or
the
regular
standard,
RPD
cup
Etc
process.
Okay,.
J
AW
AX
B
AW
Sure
so
we're
we're.
If
someone
really
wanted
to
come
in
and
provide
RV
parking,
they
would
be
able
to
do
so,
but
so
often
we're
seeing
Developers
kind
of
as
a
sign
of
the
times.
They
don't
want
to
have
this
big
space
devoted
to
RV
parking
and
that's
currently
a
requirement
of
our
code,
so
I
think
in
general.
We're
we're
somewhat
sympathetic
to
the
fact
that
we
don't
maybe
see
the
need
for,
for
instance,
town
home
developments
that
they
would
absolutely
need
devoted
RV
parking
for
people.
So
we
thought
we
could.
AW
F
G
We
can
that
does
bring
me
to
a
question:
okay,
with
respect
to
the
car,
ports
and
or
coverings.
Is
there
any
additional
verbiage
that
will
that
would
require
those
structures
to
be
like
you
said,
objectively
built?
In
other
words,
the
city
would
give
sort
of
a
standard
that
it
has
to
be
built
too,
because
I'm
thinking
of
apartment
complexes
that
I've
seen
in
carports
they're
pretty
sorry
looking
structures
that
sort
of
detract
from
the
overall.
You
know
aesthetic
of
the
of
the
neighborhood
and
I
don't
live
in
the
disclosure.
G
I
do
not
live
in
that
area
where
we're
talking
about,
but
I've,
driven
through
it
and
I,
see
that
things
are
are
built
very
nicely
and
I
wouldn't
want
these
carports
to
be
built
in
such
a
manner
that
it
really
distracts
sort
of
from
the
aesthetic
that's
been
established.
So
is
there
anything
that
the
city
will
rely
upon
when
working
with
these?
This
developer.
AW
That's
a
that's
a
really
great
question
so
baked
into
this
buy
right.
Zoning
overlay
ordinance
proposed
ordinance
we've
for
each
Zone,
we've
kind
of
taken
a
look
at
in
a
given
specific
plan,
either
The
Village
at
the
park
specific
plan
and
then
also
the
Camarillo
Commons
strategic
plan
they
kind
of
have.
They
already
had
pre-existing
architectural
design
guidelines.
G
B
AY
B
AR
AR
That's
I
think
why
we
all
live
here
in
this
town
prior
to
buying
into
Brookshire
I,
actually
helped
raise
money
for
that
YMCA.
That's
next
door
to
the
Brookshire
development,
not
even
knowing
that
I
would
live
there.
One
day,
I
bought
the
dream.
I
wasn't
even
something
I
could
see
at
the
time
it
was
off
a
drawing
and
I
was
the
smallest
guy
in
town,
because
there
were
already
town
homes
and
single
family
dwellings
all
over
the
neighborhood.
AR
What
this
overlay
is
going
to
do
is
going
to
change
the
Community
forever
you
get
off
the
freeway.
Everybody
gets
off.
The
freeway
feels
I'm
home.
What
this
will
do
is
allow
me
to
realize
that
I
selected
the
wrong
town
to
live
in,
because
apparently
there's
a
density,
bonus
and
I'm
just
going
to
guess.
AR
That
means
more
people
that
live
in
one
place,
it's
better
for
you,
guys,
oddly
enough
I,
didn't
see
any
of
those
drawings
on
the
board,
for
let's
say:
Spanish
Hills,
Santa,
Rosa
Valley,
now
I'm,
not
behind
everything
that
you
guys
read,
but
I'm
just
telling
you.
This
is
a
really
bad
idea.
Anybody
that
lives
in
that
Community
is
not
going
to
like
this
I
got
an
orange
card
to
show
up
tonight
in
the
rain
and
I'm
glad
I'm.
Here.
AR
That's
not
why
people
bought
in
that
Community
not
to
have
low
rent
housing
not
to
have
possible
other
things
going
on.
You
have
one
of
these
properties
next
to
a
school
already.
If
you
ever
take
the
path
down,
the
riverbed
you'll
see
graffiti
everywhere,
it's
bad!
It's
not
the
Planning
Commission
that
deals
with
that
I
guess,
but
it's
bad
and
the
more
low
rent
housing
you
bring
in
that
element
tends
to
increase.
AR
AZ
Good
evening,
Madam
chairman
members
of
the
Planning
Commission
I'm
Dennis
hardgrave,
representing
EG
Investment
Company,
the
owners
of
identified
Parcels,
V3
and
V4
and
I'd
like
to
go
to
address
V4
initially
and
I,
don't
know
if
you
can
bring
the
image
up,
but
it
would
be
I.
Think
page
51
in
your
report
is
V4,
where
it
shows
that
we
requested
an
additional
parcel,
be
added,
which
is
a
lot
two
of
that
tract
and
I'll.
AZ
Give
you
a
quick
overview
of
why
that
is,
and
if
I
have
still
time
at
the
endoduct
also
address
Mr
Bird's
comments.
First
of
all,
lot
two
is
the
Northerly
lot
northeasterly
lot
within
that
undeveloped
portion
of
the
village
Gateway
that
has
an
approved
grocery
store
site
on
it
about
a
15,
000
foot
grocery
store?
AZ
It
was
approved
over
a
decade
ago
and
the
hiji
family,
who,
who
are
the
owners,
have
diligently
sought
any
grocer
user
who
would
come
in
and
offered
to
pay
rent
on
a
building
that
they
would
build
or
to
build
their
own
building
on
a
purchase
parcel.
We
have
had
no
interest
and
continue
to
have
no
interest
and,
as
you
know,
the
grocery
business
has
completely
revolutionized.
Since
Village
at
the
park
was
designed,
we
have
Target
selling
groceries,
we
have
Walmart
groceries,
we
have
so
many
stores
and
such
a
small
population
growth.
AZ
So
as
a
result,
this
is
a
logical
place
to
add
to
this
cluster.
It
is
being
required
by
the
state
because
of
the
housing
element,
because
it
was
used
in
the
last
housing
element
as
an
identified
site
staff
can
address
that
to
more
detail.
I
do
agree
that
there
are
design
standards
that
will
make
sure
the
quality
of
this
development
has
the
same
appearance
as
The
Village
at
the
park
projects
that
we've
done
you'll
notice.
They
are
objective
standards
that
have
been
added
to
this.
AZ
Our
firm
has
designed
all
of
the
projects
that
are
within
Village
at
the
park.
We
will
use
the
same
Architects
for
them.
We
will
use
the
same
criteria
when
we
develop
it.
The
heji
family
will
hold
and
own
this
asset
if
they
develop
it
on
on
parcel
4..
So
with
that,
I
recommend
that
you
go
along
with
what
the
committee
has
has
reviewed.
Secondly,
on
parcel
V3
I
do
not
anticipate
that
we
would
do
a
buy
right
project
at
this
location.
It's
not
a
logical
place.
In
my
mind,
I
live
in
village
at
the
park.
AZ
I
was
about
the
fifth
person
to
move
into
Village
at
the
park
and
I've
had
my
office
there
for
the
entire
time.
It's
been
there
as
well,
so
I
know
how
the
neighborhood
rolls
that
site
is
near
the
kindergarten
entrance
to
the
elementary
school
and
we
feel
it's
more
appropriate
for
the
existing
zoning
or
even
possibly
lower,
but
we
can't
lower
it.
So
with
that
all
end,
unless
you
have
questions
for
me
or
extend
my
time.
B
AQ
B
P
O
I
appreciate
the
the
staff's
work
on
this
item
and
think
it's
it's
desirable
to
start
implementing
this
new
housing
element.
We
have
a
lot
of
families
who
are
moving
out
of
Camarillo
because
of
the
affordability
crisis,
and
we
want
to
encourage
community
members
to
stay
in
Camarillo
and
enjoy
the
quality
of
life.
Here
we
have
young
families.
You
know
starting
trying
to
wanting
to
raise
our
kids
here.
Elderly
people
who
are
no
longer
dependent
on
their
income
and
you
know,
or
need
to
also
be
able
to
afford
housing
here
in
their
later
stages.
K
Mandated
by
the
state
to
provide
housing
and
Village
at
the
park,
you
know
I'm
the
one
that's
been
on
the
commission,
long
enough,
where
that
was
at
the
very
beginning
and
I
I
think
the
Developers
delivered
exactly
what
they
presented,
that
we
saw
on
paper
and
and
I
know:
Mr
Hargrave
lives
on
the
lives
in
the
project
to,
and
they
have
all
different
kind
of
product
type
in
there
and
they're
all
seem
to
be
of
the
same
quality
standard
in
aesthetic.
So
I
have
confidence
that.
Q
K
K
G
Yeah
I
appreciate
your
comments
about
and
the
knowledge
that
you've
been
involved
with
the
project
for
so
long
I
would
think
that
that
would
probably
give
some
people
a
bit
of
relief.
Knowing
that
it'll
be
stay
consistent
with
the
environment
that
has
already
been
built
and
I
would
I
would
I
think
that
if
there's
some
conversation
in
the
lobby
after
this,
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
the
concerns
can
be
alleviated.
It
sounds
as
if
the
I
know
the
family
is
local
and
I.
G
Think
that
they're
approaching
this
in
the
way
in
which
the
neighbors
of
The
Village
at
the
park
would
be
able
very
comfortable
knowing
the
way
in
which
they're
looking
at
this
and
how
the
development
would
be
approached.
So
I
might
suggest
that,
because
we
have
a
development
near
our
place
being
built,
Knight
had
a
similar
lack
of
understanding
of
of
it
and
raised
some
Hoots
and
hollers,
and
then,
when
I
realized
had
learned
what
was
going
on
I.
J
J
J
Think
it'll
be
a
very
good
mix
and
I
think
the
concerns
again
about
the
low
rent
element
won't
bear
out
so
I,
I
and
and
I
appreciate
the
staff
for
all
the
work
they've
put
in
since
the
housing
element
was
approved
in
Fall
of
last
year
and
I
I
have
no
problems
with
how
this
is
being
proposed.
Thank
you.
B
Believe,
and
with
this
my
concern
with
this
on
tying
in
the
one
bedrooms
and
the
studios
to
that
smaller
amount.
Is
that
what
I've
seen
so
far
is
there's
usually
a
lot
more
one-bedroom
units
proportionate
to
the
studios
and
the
one
bedrooms
would
be
more
apt
to
have
couples
moving
into
them.
So
if
you
tie
all
of
that
into
that
smaller
amount
of
common
space,
you're
kind
of
losing
common
space
that
would
be
needed
for
the
total
occupancy.
You
know
in
the
complex,
at
least
when
I
look
at
it.
B
That
way,
so
it's
I
would
kind
if
that
were
to
be
changed.
I
would
want
to
recommend
maybe
that
staff
look
at
this
in
each
case
throughout
all
of
the
ordinances
for
continuity
and
see
if
they
need
to
have
a
separate
one
for
one
bedroom
units
and
then
maybe
the
two
bedroom
ones
would
be
maybe
two
more
or
two
bedrooms
or
more
because
now
we
have
like
three
or
four
bedrooms
and
places.
B
Ordinance
wide,
but
it
just
seems
to
me
that,
like
what
we
saw,
especially
in
Camino
Ruiz,
there
were
very
few
studio
apartments.
First,
this
is
the
one
bedroom
apartments
and
then
there
was
a
very
there
was
a
small
percentage,
also
two-bedroom
apartments,
so
the
biggest
allotment
there
was
the
one
bedroom
apartments
and
that's
a
hundred,
basically
100
square
foot
difference
in
planning.
J
D
So
what
we
currently
have
and
kind
of
what
chair,
Vander
millen's
getting
at
is
the
the
way
it's
written
right
now,
mimics
the
Camarillo
common
Zone,
and
we
applied
that
for
the
other
two
sites
too,
at
The
Village
at
the
park.
Now
the
underlying
zoning
in
those
two
sites
has
a
different
requirement
than
what's
proposed
right
now.
It's
actually
lumped
in
and
included
with
the
the
two
bedroom
unit.
So
it
has
a
higher
about
100
square
feet
of
required
open
space
in
the
underlying
zoning.
D
It's
a
different
standard.
It
there's
there's
two
other
zones
there
for
zoning,
the
commercial
mix
use
and
then
which
refers
back
to
the
residential
plan
development
which,
in
that
one,
the
one
bedroom
units
have
the
same
requirement
as
a
two
bedroom
unit
would
have
per
bedroom.
The
requirement
would
be
per
bedroom
for
one
and
two.
So,
for
example,
if
it
was
a
one
bedroom,
I
believe
it's
225
square
feet
or
250
square
feet,
I,
don't
remember
top
my
head,
but
but
that
would
it
that
would
be
the
requirement
for
that
unit.
D
BD
B
D
So
in
Camarillo
Commons
the
the
way
it's
written
right
now,
that's
the
underlying
zoning
requirement.
So
we
just
are
clarifying
that
one
bedrooms
would
be
included
and
that's
kind
of
written
different.
It
says
that
for
each
studio
and
efficiency
and
then
the
next
sentence
is
basically
it
says
for
any
two
bedroom
or
more
so
kind.
It
doesn't.
It's.
B
G
I
guess
what
I'd
want
to
know
is
how
many
units
are
we
talking
about,
because
in
in
actuality,
are
we
talking
about
500
square
feet
over
the
course
of
an
entire
development,
or
are
we
talking
thousands
of
square
feet
because
of
the
size
of
it
and
without
knowing
that
it?
It
could
be
such
a
small
amount
that
we're
talking
about
that
it.
It's
almost
not
worthy
of
discussion
or
to
your
point.
It
could
be
so
much
that
and
to
the
gentleman's
Point
who
wants
his
neighborhood
to
stay
the
same.
G
It
could
feel
very
like
canyons
and
cavernous,
and
and
not
at
all,
in
in
line
with
what
village
of
the
park
sort
of
is
so
I
guess
we
need
to
know.
That
is
what
you
know.
What's
the
impact
or
what's
the
difference
between
applying
the
old
way
and
now
this
way
and
what
does
that?
What
are
those,
what
is
the
square
footage
actually
equal
out
to
it?
Yeah.
B
D
AW
Yeah
yeah
I'd
be
happy
to
give
those
numbers
and
but
David's
absolutely
right,
really
for
camrio
Commons
mixed
use.
We
kept
what
was
already
there
as
far
as
open
space
requirements,
so
that
did
not
change
all
that
changed.
There
was
a
clarification.
There
seemed
to
be
a
little
bit
of
a
a
gap
in
the
code
where
it
didn't
mention
one
bedroom
units.
It
just
said
two
or
more
or
Studio,
or
efficiency.
Well,
where's,
one
bedroom
in
that,
so
we
we
lumped
in
one
bedroom
alongside
studio
and
efficiency.
AW
So
for
that
one
we
didn't
really
change
the
open
space
requirement.
However,
on
RPD
we
did
change
the
open
space
requirement.
We
made
it
mere
cambrio
Commons
mixed
use.
So
to
your
point
specifically
for
one
bedroom
units
in
RP
on
the
RPD
site,
we
would
be
losing
potentially
for
one
bedroom
units
about
100
square
feet
of
open
space
if
they
were
doing
one
bedroom
unit.
So
on
that
point
it
makes
sense.
Certainly.
J
J
AW
G
B
Z
D
Yes,
you
can,
let
me
go
ahead
and
read
the
ordinance
first.
Okay,
before
you
guys
make
the
motion,
because
we're
still
kind
of
in
discussion,
so
resolution
number
PC,
2023-5,
residential
Planning,
Commission
of
the
City
of
Camarillo,
recommending
approval
to
the
city
council
of
an
ordinance,
adding
chapter
19.35
to
the
camera
admissible
code,
creating
a
buy
right
overlay
Zone,
allowing
ministerial
approval
of
residential
development
that
includes
affordable
housing
to
lower
income
housing,
households
on
certain
real
property
identified
in
the
2021-29
housing
element.
AE
Madam,
chairperson,
you
can
make
a
motion
either
to
incorporate
the
changes
and
then
make
a
separate
motion
to
adopt
the
resolution,
or
you
can
make
a
single
resolution
adopting
the
resolution.
I'm.
Sorry,
a
single
motion
adopting
the
resolution
subject
to
the
revisions
of
the
Planning
Commission
would
like
to
make.
AA
G
Think
we
did
at
the
we
did
it
the
other
way
before
we
can
do
it
either
way.
This
I
mean
I'm
fine,
with
that
okay
I'll
make
so
I'll
make
a
motion
that
we
adopt
the
resolution
or
recommend
approval
of
the
resolution
with
the
amendment
that
the
RPD
lots
are
subject
to
the
old
version
of
open
space
requirements
based
on
bedroom
number.
AW
AW
So
we
actually
believe
as
staff
that
that
specific
500
square
feet
per
bedroom
for
units
that
have
three
or
more
bedrooms
may
have
been
a
typo
way
back
when,
because
that's
a
really,
you
know
1500
square
feet
of
open
space
per
unit
for
I
mean
that's,
that's
a
that's
more
than
you
would
probably
get
in
a
single
family
home.
So
I
don't
want
to
overly
lead
you
all
I
just
want
to
make
sure
for
that
piece
of
it.
The
three
bedrooms
are
more
I.
AW
G
D
B
AI
B
AW
I
hope
you
all
aren't
sick
of
me
at
this
point,
so
I'll
be
presenting
the
arneel
road
mixed
use,
but
just
the
GPA
change
of
Zone
and
negative
declaration
next
slide.
Please
a
little
bit
of
background
on
June
20th
2017,
the
city
acquired
the
property
with
the
ultimate
purpose
of
developing
a
mixed-use,
affordable
housing
project.
AW
The
arneel
road
mixed
use
project
was
acquired
with
certain
Legacy
Redevelopment
funds
from
the
low
and
moderate
income
housing
asset
fund
and
that's
important
because
it,
it
kind
of
to
some
extent,
dictates
a
little
bit
what
we
need
to
do
with
the
site.
It
doesn't
give
us,
you
know,
complete
flexibility,
so
on
January,
24
2018,
the
city
council
approved
Professional
Services
agreement
with
RRM
Design
Group
for
the
conceptual
design
of
the
our
Neil
Road
mixed
use,
development
project
and
the
parties
entered
into
a
written
agreement.
AW
Effective
March,
7,
2018
next
slide,
please,
and
so
on
the
process.
There
was
quite
a
bit
of
back
and
forth
between
staff
and
RRM
on
this,
because
we
really
were
trying
to
tailor
the
project
as
much
as
we
could
to
get
it
just
right
and
then
I
guess
with
the
pandemic
as
well.
That
may
have
slowed
things
down
as
well,
but
so
in
October,
2nd
2019.
The
city
received
the
first
submittal
from
RRM
for
the
proposed
mixed-use
project,
but
the
city
staff
required
Corrections
on
the
submittal
again
on
July
30th
2020.
AW
Second
submittal
City
staff
also
required
Corrections
and
then
finally,
so
December
15
2022
City
staff
received
the
33rd
submittal
and
after
a
little
bit
of
back
and
forth
and
discussion,
staff
ultimately
found
the
project
submittal
to
be
complete.
February,
2nd,
2022
next
slide
so
elements
of
the
arneel
road
mixed
use
project
so
we're
today
we're
bringing
forth
the
general
plan
Amendment
the
change
of
Zone
and
the
negative
declaration,
and
this
is
to
allow
for
the
future
consideration
of
conditional
use
permit
400..
AW
So
we
can't
bundle
it
all
together,
because
the
findings
to
permit
conditional
use
conditional
use
permit
400
are
kind
of
contingent
on
these
previous
actions.
So
that's
why
it's
not
all
coming
together,
so
just
again,
I'm
stressing
that
point
because
you're
not
approving
the
actual
mixed-use
project
today,
just
these
pieces,
it's
but
the
arneel
road
mixed
use.
Project
under
cup
400
is
a
proposed
mixed-use
development
consisting
of
nine
multi-family
residential
units
and
500
square
feet
of
can
of
commercial
space
and
two
buildings
next
slide.
AW
Please
and
the
cup
400
it'll
be
considered
if
all
of
these
pieces
that
you're
considering
today
are
approved
by
the
city
council,
the
project
site
located
north
of
the
101
freeway
on
the
east
side
of
arnhill
road.
So
you
can
see
breakout,
Masters
down
below
and
I.
Think
it's
a
Pizza
Hut,
oh
Jiffy
Lube
is
north
yeah,
so
Jiffy
Loop
is
north
of
the
site.
Break
Masters
is
down
south
next
slide.
AW
Please
so
a
little
bit
of
just
to
appraise
you
of
what's
around
there
in
terms
of
zoning,
so
the
actual
project
site
is
currently
General
commercial
and
the
zoning
designation
is
commercial.
It's
of
course
vacant
north
of
the
sites,
General
commercial
and
it's
plan-
development,
commercial,
CPD,
South,
General,
commercial,
commercial
plan,
development
as
well.
East
is
medium
density.
Residential
and
then
to
the
West
is
commercial,
mixed
use
and
the
cambrio
commons
specific
plan,
so
negative
declaration,
2023-1
no
significant
impacts.
AW
The
proposed
mixed-use
project
was
accounted
for
in
the
housing
element
as
a
site
where
units
were
planned
to
be
developed,
so
it
counts
towards
Arena
numbers,
or
it's
already
been
counted
towards
Arena
numbers
and
approval
of
once
again.
Approval
of
the
GPA
and
dncz
will
allow
for
the
later
consideration
of
that
mixed
use.
Project
next
slide,
despite
the
fact
that
we're
not
considering
it
today,
just
want
to
give
you
a
vision
of
what
what
that
would
look
like.
AW
So
the
proposed
project
would
finish
off
the
existing
sidewalk,
which
is
nice
there,
because
we
kind
of
have
like
a
half
of
a
sidewalk
along
there.
If
you
had
a
chance
to
drive
past
the
site,
you
probably
noticed
the
proposed
project
exceeds
parking
requirements.
20
parking
spaces
are
offered
next
slide,
so
we
have
the
elevations
there.
It's
that
mission
style
it's
within
the
Heritage
zone
of
the
freeway
and
that
it's
within
100
or
a
thousand
feet
of
an
interchange.
So
it's
it
really
has
to
kind
of
stick
to
this
style.
AW
Next
slide,
it
adheres,
like
I,
said,
adheres
to
the
Heritage
Zone
standards,
Spanish
mission
style
next
slide,
and
the
proposed
mixed-use
building
fronting
our
Neil
Road
would
be
a
two-story
building
that
includes
commercial
space
and
also
community
space,
and
on
the
second
floor
of
that,
front-facing
building
would
be
two
one
bedroom
residential
units.
The
two-story
back
building
would
provide
two
two
bedroom
units
and
five
one
bedroom
units.
AW
So
today's
suggested
actions
are
to
adopt
a
resolution
recommending
approval
of
negative
declaration.
20
23-1
to
the
city
council,
adopt
a
resolution
recommending
approval
of
General
plan,
Amendment
GPA
2019-2
to
change
the
land,
use
element,
designation
from
General
commercial
to
commercial,
mixed
use
to
the
city
council
and
finally,
to
adopt
a
resolution
recommending
approval
of
change
of
Zone
cz-329
to
change
the
zoning
designation
from
commercial
plan
development
to
Village
commercial,
mixed
use
to
the
city
council.
F
B
AF
J
C
D
BC
D
D
That's
inconsistent
with
our
land
use
and
zoning,
so
we
need
to
have
that
in
place
first
and
then
we
can
have
the
the
cup
for
the
this
project
be
approved,
but
really
links
it.
All
together
is
the
the
negative
declaration,
so
the
project
cannot
be
larger
than
what's
described
in
that
negative
declaration,
because
that
is
a
SQL
review
for
the
project.
J
BI
D
Could
change
it?
You
know
slightly,
but
you
know
it
it
they
could,
but
I
don't
know
if
that
would
trigger.
I
would
like
to
bring
up
our
sequa
expert
here
to
see
if
that
would
actually
trigger
an
additional
review.
I
didn't
think
so.
Okay
yeah
so
he's
shaking
his
head.
No,
so
the
parking
could
change.
Okay,.
AE
Commissioner
Murphy,
if
I
may
just
for
purposes
of
clarification
of
the
record,
the
cup
is
not
before
the
Planning
Commission
at
this
time,
so
it
would
not
be
coming
back
to
the
Planning
Commission
when
it
came
before
the
Planning
Commission.
It
would
be
upon
first
impression
it's
it's
not
as
if
it's
being
tabled
to
a
later
date.
It's
not
under
consideration
at
this
time.
AE
G
I
have
a
question
more
of
a
maybe
a
learning
curve
for
me
on
this.
It
is
this
normally
how
some
I
mean
this
one
seems
like
a
one-off.
It
seems
like
an
awful
lot
of
planning
and
commitment
to
a
very
specific
project
has
happened
before
the
zoning
has
even
been
addressed,
which
seems
a
little
bit
cart
before
the
horsesh
is
that
this
is
me
learning
not
not
a
criticism.
I.
AW
G
And
is
it
correct
say
that
the
Lim,
the
use
of
this
land
is
so
is
pretty
restricted
based
on
the
way
in
which
it
was
acquired?
I
think
is
what
you
said.
So,
in
other
words,
it's
everybody's
hands
are
pretty
much
tied
with
this
property
based
on
the
the
funds
used
to
acquire
it,
and
then
the
requirement
based
on
those
funds
is
that
right.
AW
D
AU
D
X
D
Z
D
K
D
Yeah
it's
it's
kind
of
similar.
It
is
what
a
little
bit
more
less
intense.
It
was
two
single-family
homes
we
partnered
with
Habitat
for
Humanity,
about
a
block
east
from
this
site,
where
they,
the
city,
acquired
the
property
and
they
donated
the
property
to
Habitat,
and
they
did
US.
What's
called
a
Sweat
Equity
where
the
owners
come
and
actually
work
on
the
the
units
themselves.
D
BI
O
It's
I
think
we
should.
We
should
always
look
for
opportunities
for
affordable
housing
again,
as
I
indicated
in
my
previous
comments.
It's
it's
such
an
odd
location
for
housing.
It's
out
of
you
know
character,
and
this
is
why
it
requires
the
change
you
know
and
when
we're
we
talk
particularly
about
affordable
housing.
O
We
should
Target
areas
that
you
know
are
in
character
with
other
residential
buildings
and
that
you
know
provide
for
a
quality
of
life
for
those
future
residents.
And
here
this
location
is,
you
know
it's
very
close
to
the
freeway.
It's
sandwiched
between
two
automobile
shops
and
directly
across
the
street
from
a
gas
station,
so
just
surrounded
by
you
know
lower
quality
of
air.
So,
like
it's
just
it's
it's
bizarre,
it's
not
the
ideal
location.
O
You
know
anyone
who
can
take
it.
We
should
give
opportunities
for
people
who
are
seeking
affordable
housing
to
have
you
know,
safe
and
and
healthy
housing.
So
I
I
have
a
concern
about
the
particular
location
and
I.
Don't
know
if
there's
anything
you
can
State
about
whether
this
was
examined
or
what
was
any
findings.
D
D
What
we're
trying
to
do
is
create
a
trend
here,
we're
trying
to
mirror
what's
happening
across
the
street
in
the
camriel
Commons
and
have
that
spill
over,
and
you
know
basically
set
the
tone
that
if
the
other
property
owners
wanted,
you
know
to
see
what
what
what
could
be
done
with
the
property
on
the
east
side
of
our
Neil
in
a
Redevelopment
capacity.
So
we're
trying
to
set
the
tone
and
the
example
to
you
know,
have
those
properties
redeveloped
if
they
choose
to.
O
D
D
B
Addressing
yes,
it
is
there,
you
know
in
the
commercial
row,
but
it
does
have
if
I
remember
when
we
were
driving
down
the
alley
on
our
tour.
The
residential
starts
right
behind
it
and
then
the
future
plans
for
across
the
street.
If
we
ever
get
the
chance
to
acquire
any
of
those
lands
or
get
those
owners
to
want
to
do
something.
That
was
all
designed
to
be
like
a
lot
of
commercial,
retail
and
stuff
on
the
bottom,
with
residents
and
stuff
on
top.
B
Optimal
use
for
that
poor
little
lot
that
started
out
as
four
residences
and
kind
of
going
back
to
where
it
was
but
I
think
in
the
future,
as
we
get
hopefully
not
20
or
30
years
from
now,
but
able
to
develop
some
of
that
area
across
the
street.
In
the
Commons
areas
where
we
were
planning
for
the
retail
and
items
below
and
the
residences
on
top
and
some
other
residents
in
there,
it
would
really
kind
of
just
be
on
the
outskirts
between
that
and
then
the
other
residences.
B
BO
BP
BQ
BO
Name
is
Stephen
Peltz
I
own,
the
Brake
Masters.
That's
next
to
this
lot,
I
would
oppose
it
and
I'd
oppose
it.
For
two
reasons.
One
I
think
you
have
housing
units
for
nine
families.
There's
gonna
be
children
running
around.
You
have
our
Neil
that
has
traffic
non-stop
in
the
alley
behind
that
project.
You
have
non-stop
traffic
going
there,
it's
a
dangerous
place
for
kids
to
play.
BO
First
of
all
and
no
matter
how
much
parking
you
have
there,
people
are
going
to
bond
a
park
in
my
parking
lot
because
they're
visiting
families
that
are
in
there
my
parking
lot
is
already
full.
So
it's
not
gonna.
It's
gonna
hurt
my
business
but
I'm
more
worried
about
the
kids.
Like
commissioner
Lyman
says,
that's
not
the
place
to
raise
a
kid.
Those
kids
are
going
to
run
in
the
street.
Somebody's
gonna
get
run
over
and
it's
going
to
turn
out
to
be
a
poor
decision.
B
So
if
there
are
there
any
other
comments,
we
have
a
hand
back
here.
If
you
would
come
up
and
I,
don't
know
if
you
filled
out
a
blue
card
or
not,
but
if
you
you
may
do
we
want
her
to
fill
one
out
after
she's
done
yeah
after
your
comments,
if
you
would
fill
out
a
blue
card
and
then
turn
it
in
please,
okay
and.
BR
My
name
is:
Yong,
pin
Chen,
so
I
own
the
business
as
Acupuncture
Clinic,
just
right
behind
the
the
Pizza
Hut.
So
this
I
was
I
have
been
there
20
years,
I'm
watching
this
land
as
a
vacancy
I
was
hoping.
A
commercial
will
come
to
make
this
street
consistent,
because
I
knew
it's
really
basically
commercial
for
the
city,
main
commercial
District,
so
I
agree
that
Mrs
Steele
said
so
we
are
neighbors,
but
we
haven't
talked
before.
BR
I
didn't
even
think
it's
possible
to
make
comments,
because
the
city
project,
as
a
sitting
with
the
sushi
already
I,
just
listened
what
come
to
listen
to
see
what
how
to
make
the
project,
how
many
stories
so
I
really
think
this
is
not
the
right
place
for
The
Residency,
which
should
be
more
fair,
consider
of
their
security
for,
if
especially
when
they
have
kids.
So
it's
not
good
for
commercial,
not
good.
BR
For
I
mean
this
is
good
this
year
for
commercial,
not
good
for
the
residents,
especially
for
those
people,
young
residency,
they
have
more,
possibly
have
kids
and
the
kids
have
to
watch
them
to
not
run
to
the
street,
and
the
car
I
saw
a
new
people
drive
very
fast.
Now
they
just
off
the
freeway,
the
the
mind,
not
change,
yet
they
still
have
a
very
high
speed.
I
saw
that
very
busy
harder
for
me
to
cross
the
street
yeah.
Thank.
T
BR
AF
BS
On
this
main
thoroughfare
and
I
heard
some
of
the
comments
here
and
I
think
we
should
be
very
careful
when
we
amend
General
plans
from
commercial
to
other
uses.
I
know
we
already
have
the
two,
the
two
buildings
that
were
talked
about,
the
two
properties
that
were
talked
about
and,
of
course,
there's
a
stock
lumber
yard,
which
is
to
be
developed.
Still,
it's
not
not.
Yet
it's
been
underway
for
a
while
and
I
hope
that
project
comes
to
fruition
soon.
BS
But
I
do
like
the
idea
of
having
a
commercial
commercial
General
plan
for
our
Neil,
Road
and
so
I
hope
we'll
be
very
careful
and
I
I
wanted
to
confirm
that
the
amendment
to
the
general
plan
that
we're
talking
about
only
applies
to
this
project
only
pertains
to
this
project,
not
any
other,
because
people
who
have
invested
and
thought
about
the
future
of
our
Neil
Road
we're
thinking
of
commercial
development.
So
those
are
my
comments.
Thank
you.
G
So
with
that
in
mind,
no
matter
the
project,
we're
really
just
talking
about
in
the
future,
could
this
lot
potentially
be
used
for
sort
of
more
of
a
mixed
use,
and
that
seems
like
a
based
on
its
location,
maybe
not
the
best
but
also
foreseeable,
and
it
could.
Maybe
the
construction
is
wrong.
Maybe
it
can
be
done
so
that
you
know
again.
I
wish
I
hadn't
seen
it,
but
maybe
you
know
it's
commercial
on
the
street
and
everything
else
in
the
back.
G
I,
don't
know,
but
I
don't
see
it
as
an
unreasonable
zoning
change,
because
eventually
infill
development's
going
to
have
to
happen
in
Camarillo
we're
going
to
have
to
start
doing
things
in
places
that
are
non-traditional
and
if
we
are
talking
up
the
street
looking
at
other
things
that
that
could
be
rezoned
and
reused
and
I
that
I
think
it's
a
reasonable,
consistent
use
of
this
property
I
think
maybe
what's
designed
and
presented
made
made
us
kind
of
think.
Maybe
I
don't
like
something
about
that
project,
but
again,
that's
not
before
us
tonight.
G
AA
K
Too,
that
I
kind
of
wish
I
didn't
see
that
project
yet
because
that's
not
before
us,
but
looking
at
the
items
that
are
before
us,
I
I,
think
those
are
reasonable
also
and
we're
going
to
get
another
look
at
the
specific
project
on
it
at
another
time,
so
I
think
I
can
support
it
for
what's
before
us.
Thank
you.
O
O
C
D
The
project
is
a
mixed
use
project,
so
it
does
in
include
commercial
so
that
that
hasn't
I'd
have
to
look
at
the
the
exact
plans.
I
believe
it
has
an
entrance
on
the
side
of,
but
it
does
front
there's
the
commercial
component
that
is
on
our
Neil
and
then
there's
also
I,
know
we're
kind
of
getting
into
the
the
we
we're
Switching
gears
to
the
the
project.
AE
D
AE
O
And
the
proponent
of
mixed
use
in
generally,
and
particularly
here,
providing
additional,
affordable
housing
units
and
I
I
see
that
further,
like
further
down
our
Neil,
where
there
is
housing
across
the
street
from
the
where
the
Kmart
was.
You
know
that
big
space
that
would
allow
for
open
space
for
residents
and
children
and
more
of
a
community
type
use
that
would
retain
the
character
of
Camarillo.
This
to
me
is
just
so
out
of
character
and
so
odd,
yeah
and
I
understand
the
the
requirements
and
the
funds
with
which
it
was
purchased.
G
Could
could
the
city
sell
this
and
get
out
from
under
the
requirement?
In
other
words,
hey
we're?
We
don't
want
to
do
it
anymore,
we're
just
going
to
sell
it
to
somebody
and
let
them
build
commercial
I
mean.
Is
there
a
way
out
for
the
city,
or
is
it
basically
the
city's
already
committed
to
this
and
we're
just
standing
in
the.
D
BC
D
But
the
city
has
used
restricted
funding
to
do
that.
To
on
I
mean,
could
we
unwind
that
I
guess
the
ant?
The
technical
answer
is
yes,
okay,
but
thank
you
but
there's
other
things
that
we'd
have
to
do
and
then
we'd
probably
now
we're
not
spending
the
money
in
a
timely
matter
and
we've
been
reported
the
state
for
the
last.
You
know
three
years
that
we're
going
to
do
this
and
we'd
have
to.
D
D
BV
J
J
So
there's
a
lot
of
creativity
involved
in
this
and
I
think
that
for
the
city
to
meet
the
arena
goals
for
low-income
housing,
they're
going
to
have
to
be
creative,
they're
gonna.
If
this
isn't
the
last
one
that
we're
going
to
be
seeing
where
we're
kind
of
stretching
our
heads
and
wondering
if
that's
the
perfect
fit
I,
don't
know
that
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
Perfect
Fit
sites
in
in
the
city,
so
I
mean
that
the
much
larger
development
at
the
the
lumber
site
is
right
next
to
to
Lewis,
Road
and
yeah.
J
They
are.
There
are
safety
concerns,
but
again
I
think
this
city
has
demonstrated
A
Creative
Flair
to
to
see
where
they
can
put
additional
low-income
housing
and
I
think
this
is
just
another
example
of
that
and
I
I
hear
the
concerns
and
I
share
those
concerns
that
have
been
stated
here,
but
all
that
considered
I
think
I
can
support
this
project.
B
You
know
the
negative
declaration
and
the
GPA,
because
that's
all
we're
doing
tonight,
I
mean
I.
Have
my
own
comments.
You
know
as
far
as
the
project,
but
I
think
we've
heard
quite
a
few
I
think
I'm
just
going
to
stick
to
the
fact
that
I
think
the
what
we're
voting
on
tonight
will
get
us
what
we
need.
B
You
know
where
we
need
to
go,
so
you
know
whether
it's
that
project
that
we've
seen
or
it's
tweaked
a
little
or
I'm
just
sitting
here
thinking
I
wish
we
could
just
say
the
low
income
units
for
were
for
adults
only,
but
there's
all
kinds
of
rules
that
I
don't
know
that.
There's
any
that
say
we
can
do
that,
but
you
know
those
discussions
come
later
tonight.
We're
really
concerned
with
the
the
general
plan
Amendment
the
zoning
issue
and
the
negative
declaration.
B
D
So
resolution
number
PC
2023-7
a
resolution
of
the
Planning
Commission
of
the
City
of
Camarillo,
recommending
approval
to
the
city
council
of
a
Rec
request
by
the
City
of
Camarillo
for
an
amendment
to
the
City
of
Camarillo
General
plan
land
use
element
further
described
as
GPA
2019-2,
located
at
the
East
side
of
our
Neil
Road
between
Brake
Masters
at
238,
arneel
Road
and
the
Jiffy
Lube
at
274.
Arneel
Road.
AL
D
All
right,
so,
the
third
and
final
resolution
so
resolution
number
PC
2023
-8
resolution
of
the
Planning
Commission
of
the
City
of
Camarillo
recommended
approval
to
the
city
council
of
a
request
by
the
City
of
Camarillo
for
a
change
of
Zone
from
commercial
plan
development
CPD
to
Village
commercial
mixed
use,
CMU
located
at
the
East
side
of
our
nail
Road
between
Brake
Masters
at
238,
arneel
Road
and
Jiffy
Lube
at
274.
Our
nail
road
further
described
as
cz329.
BT
BH
C
D
J
B
And
I
I
want
to
give
a
big
thank
you
to
staff
and
James
did
a
great
job,
and
it
was
a
lot
in
here
to
absorb
tonight,
but
I
also
want
to
recognize
our
two
new
Commissioners.
This
is
our
first
full
night
and
it's
been
a
busy
night
and
their
insight
and
complexities.
You
know
that
they
brought
to
their
comments
tonight.
I
think
are
very
welcomed
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
a
great
year
with
the
five
of
us
and
I.
Think
it's
going
to
be
very
interesting
and.
Q
AG
AX
AE
Commissioner,
commissioner,
Murphy,
so
that
language
could
be
deleted
from
the
proposed
ordinance,
but
it's
it's
important
to
note
that
it
is
still
state
law
and
it
still
would
apply.
It
would
run
the
risk
of
the
city
not
being
a
position
to
implement
that
proposed
language.
If,
in
the
future,
it
should
adopt
such
a
plan.
J
Right
so
it's
it's!
The
state
wants
the
verbiage
in
there
than
just
in
case,
and
the
city
could
adopt
I
guess
a
program
in
this
year
or
next
year,
or
whatever
it's
just
that
I.
It
gives
a
little
bit
of
false
hope
to
applicants
that
are
looking
at
this
and
thinking.
Oh,
we
could,
if
the
city
has
a
so,
the
point
is:
if
it's
required
for
state
law,
then
I
know
from
experience
that,
with
these
State
mandates
that
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
flexibility
in
in
bending
those
mandates.
AE
The
point
is
well
received,
commissioner.
Alternatively,
this
section
could
be
adopted
could
adopt
the
government
code
by
reference
where
it
wouldn't
contain
any
any
of
the
language
itself.
It
would
just
reference
the
particular
health
and
safety
code
if,
if
that
would
be
more
to
the
plant
commission's
liking,.
AE
So
alternative,
alternatively,
to
stating
the
code
section
in
the
municipal
code,
the
municipal
code
could
simply
reference
a
DOT
by
reference,
the
health
and
the
applicable
health
and
safety
code
on
this
matter.
So
the
verbiage
would
not
appear
in
the
municipal
code,
but
it
would
Point
applicants
to
the
health
and
safety
code
which
has
these
requirements.
AH
Madam,
chair
planning,
Commissioners
there
there
may
be
a
few,
our
water
Wastewater
excuse
me:
District
does
extend
outside
the
city,
so
you
find
it
more
in
the
rural
areas.
So
there
are
areas
that
used
to
be
rural
that
then
got
annexed
to
the
city.
So
there
there
probably
are
some
existing
homes
that
when
they
were
in
the
county
had
the
individual
Wastewater
systems.
You
know
septic
tanks,
different
kinds
of
systems
installed,
and
so
of
course,
when
we
annexed
a
larger
area,
there
would
be
some
so
I
apps.
Yes,
there
are
some.
AH
If,
if
there's
a
sewer,
if
it
fails,
let's
say
the
one:
that's
in
the
city
fails:
if
they're
within
200
feet
of
a
public
sewer
line,
they
do
have
to
connect
and
it's
more
environmental,
health,
the
county,
the
govern's
kind
of
the
septic
tank
and
the
regional
water
quality
control
board.
Okay,
that's
quite
a
few.
We
just
let
people
know
whether
it
is
available,
whether
our
public
lines
are
available
for
the
plumbing
code
and
that's
200.
AH
Third
yeah,
so
the
camera
Sanitary
District
is,
is
what
is
available
to
serve
or
not
to
serve
and
the
actual,
let's
say
we're
too
far
away
our
system
and
they
have
to
put
in
an
individual
Wastewater
system.
Then
they
have
to
go
through
environmental
health
and
the
regional
water
quality
control
board
to
make
sure
they're
meeting
all
the
guidelines.
Okay,.
AH
If
they
came
to
the
public
counter
or
public
works
and
asked,
is
there
a
sewer
near
my
house
or
if
I
developed
this
property?
How
close
is
the
nurse
through?
Yes,
we
could
answer
it
right
right
then,
and
there
we
can
tell
them.
If
they're
you
know,
based
on
their
plan,
do
they
want
to
do
a
subdivision?
AH
Then
they
might
have
to
build
some
sewer
Mains,
if
it's
just,
let's
say
above
mental
lane
or
some
of
the
areas
that
have
you
know
over
the
years
recent
more
recently
annexed,
so
there's
not
really
sewer
Mains
that
go
out
there.
They
have
installed
in
those
smaller
subdivisions
what
we
call
dry
sewers
for
the
future
when
that
sewer
line
gets
connected
to
ours,
but
in
the
meantime
they
are
on
individual
Wastewater
systems.
In
those
areas
up,
you
know
off
of
Crestview.
J
B
AI
AJ
G
B
B
BH
AO
B
B
T
B
AF
AR
Okay,
I'm
brand
new
to
this,
my
name
is
Greg
bird
I'm,
a
I'm,
a
camera
resident
I
was
here
tonight
because
of
the
orange
card.
I
received
I
signed
up
for
the
E
on
the
agenda,
but
this
is
also
tied
to
it
as
well.
I
guess
so.
I
don't
know
if
this
is
the
right
time
for
my
public
comment
for
the
halfway
half,
not
the
navigation,
centers
I
believe
you're
calling
them.
AR
AR
AU
U
AB
S
W
B
AW
AW
Good
evening
so
I'll
be
presenting
program
21
by
right,
affordable
housing
projects
next
slide,
please.
So
a
little
bit
of
background
for
you
all.
The
City
of
Camarillo,
revised
housing
element
was
adopted
by
the
city
council
on
October,
12,
2022
and
subsequently
provided
to
this
to
the
state
for
their
review.
Shortly
thereafter,
staff
received
a
letter
from
the
state
concerning
their
review
on
December
22nd
2022.
AW
program,
21
commits
the
city
to
amend
or
municipal
code
to
allow
by
right,
processing
of
housing
developments
containing
a
minimum
of
20
percent,
affordable
units
on
sites
identified
in
previous
housing
elements
and
program.
16
commits
the
city
to
a
mender
municipal
code
to
incorporate
State
legislation
which
will
be
addressed.
What
was
already
addressed
in
a
separate
Agenda
Report
next
slide.
Please.
AW
Oh,
it's:
okay.
Certain
sites
identified
in
the
recently
adopted
housing
element
for
future
development
were
also
identified
in
the
previous
housing
element
cycle,
as
these
sites
were
never
developed
and
also
reincorporate,
and
they
were
also
reincorporated
in
the
current
element.
State
law
requires
the
city
to
implement,
buy
right
Provisions,
to
make
these
specific
sites
easier
to
develop.
Pursuant
to
the
state's
housing
element
law,
a
buy
right
development
is
subject
to
a
ministerial
review.
It
doesn't
require
a
conditional
use,
permit
residential
plan
development
permit
or
any
other
discretionary
City
Review
or
approval
processes.
AW
AW
However,
a
buy
right
development
is
still
required
to
meet
the
written
objective
standards
set
forth
by
the
city
to
meet
the
city's
program.
21
housing
element,
commitment
staff
is
proposing
a
city
ordinance
or
I'm.
Sorry,
a
zoning
ordinance
amendment
to
update
the
city's
municipal
code
with
a
new
chapter
that
establishes
the
objective
standards
for
buy
right
developments.
The
proposed
chapter
will
impose
a
zoning
overlay
applicable
to
those
sites
that
are
identified
as
Buy-Rite
developments
in
the
housing
element
buy
right.
AW
AW
The
CCM
sites
fall
under
the
camrio
common
strategic
plan
and
the
CMU
site
and
RPD
site
are
Under
The
Village
at
the
park
specific
plan
next
slide,
please.
So
here
we
have
the
CCM
site.
You
can
see
a
little
bit
hard
to
see
on
the
slide,
I
apologize,
but
we
have
the
Ponderosa
shopping
center
and
the
north
and
south
of
Pickwick.
It's
not
the
entirety
of
north
and
south
of
Pickwick,
but
just
those
outlined
Parcels
there
and,
of
course,
we're
kind
of
oriented
along
our
Neil
north
of
the
freeway.
Next
slide
thanks
locate.
AW
This
is
the
northeastern
kind
of
Unfinished
portion
of
the
Wickford
development
and
Village
at
the
park,
so
it
kind
of
sandwiched
between
existing
Wickford.
Then
you
have
the
school
to
the
East
and
then
to
the
north.
You
have
the
soccer
fields
next,
Slide
the
CMU
site,
also
located
in
village
at
the
park
on
that
I.
Think
it's
on
Village,
Commons
or
I
can't
read
it
from
here:
I
apologize,
but
really
just
east
of
the
Marriott
there
right
off
the
freeway
and
near
the
gas
station.
AW
So
as
far
as
standards
go
staff
utilized
existing
standards
within
the
respective
zones
and
specific
plans,
but
modified
them
as
needed
to
make
them
objective
and
a
little
word
on
what
that
means
objective.
So
state
law
is
really
clear
as
far
as
objectivity.
It
can't
leave
a
lot
of
room
for
interpretation
on
the
part
of
Staff.
You
know
you,
you
can't
make
a.
This
is
a
ridiculous
example
of
course,
but
you
can't
say
the
architecture
must
be
good.
You
know
it
has
to
be
objective.
You
know
the
architecture
must
be
Spanish
style.
AW
With
these
specific
outlined
elements,
that's
a
more
objective
standard
planning
and
public
work
staff
work
together
to
incorporate
the
regular
conditions
of
approval
for
a
project
and
to
a
standard.
So
on
a
traditional
cup
RPD,
we
have
these
conditions
of
approval
that
are
necessary
to
make
a
safe
good
project
and
because
we
kind
of
have
to
provide
these
to
developers
up
front
we've
done
so
and
baked
them.
In
to
this
zoning
ordinance,
two
standard
staff
is
proposing
to
include
in
the
updates
that
are
outside
of
just
that.
AW
Shifting
any
standards
to
purely
objective
are
the
elimination
of
RV
parking
standards
and
updating,
buy
right,
residential
plan
development,
common
open
space
standards
to
mirror
the
standards
of
the
camrio
commons
mixed
use.
Zone.
These
changes
are
proposed
in
alignment
with
consistent
development
on
the
sites
within
the
surrounding
area,
and
these
changes
are
also
consistent
with
the
types
of
concessions
and
or
waivers
of
Standards
developers
tend
to
get
for
affordable
units
anyway.
So
it's
these
are
some
of
the
things
they
regularly
ask
for.
AW
AW
So
the
economic
development
and
land
use
committee
had
a
chance
to
review
or
look
at
and
provide
some
comments
on
the
proposed
ordinance
as
well.
They
were
overall
supportive
of
the
ordinance
and
Dennis
hardgrave
who's.
The
owner
representative
of
the
CMU
site
spoke
and
gave
a
couple
recommended
tax
changes.
The
suggested
changes
were
that
aforementioned.
Z
J
AW
That
correct,
that's,
absolutely
correct
and
it's.
It
is
a
key
point
that
they
can
choose
to
go
through
the
normal
process.
I
mean
I.
Think
we
at
the
city
we
tend
to
like
having
affordable
units.
But
if
a
developer
said
hey
I
don't
want
to
do
these
affordable
units,
they
may
well
choose
to
try
to
go
through
the
normal
process
or
the
regular
standard,
RPD
cup
Etc
process.
Okay,.
J
AW
Yeah,
sorry
to
start
to
cut
you
off
there,
but
that's
that's
absolutely
correct,
because
they
would
still
be
providing
those
20,
affordable
units.
They
would
get
to
benefit
from
the
city's
density
bonus
and
just
density
bonus
law
in
general,
so
you're
you're
correct.
As
far
as
concessions
go.
That's.
AX
B
AW
Sure
so
we're
we're.
If
someone
really
wanted
to
come
in
and
provide
RV
parking,
they
would
be
able
to
do
so,
but
so
often
we're
seeing
Developers
kind
of
as
a
sign
of
the
times.
They
don't
want
to
have
this
big
space
devoted
to
RV
parking
and
that's
currently
a
requirement
of
our
code,
so
I
think
in
general.
We're
we're
somewhat
sympathetic
to
the
fact
that
we
don't
maybe
see
the
need
for,
for
instance,
town
home
developments
that
they
would
absolutely
need
devoted
RV
parking
for
people.
So
we
thought
we
could.
AW
AV
G
With
respect
to
the
car,
ports
and
or
part
coverings,
is
there
any
additional
verbiage
that
will
that
would
require
those
structures
to
be
like
you
said,
objectively
built?
In
other
words,
the
city
would
give
sort
of
a
standard
that
has
to
be
built
too,
because
I'm
thinking
of
apartment
complexes
that
I've
seen
in
carports
they're
pretty
sorry
looking
structures
that
sort
of
detract
from
the
overall.
You
know
aesthetic
of
the
of
the
neighborhood
and
I
don't
live
in
the
disclosure.
G
I
do
not
live
in
that
area
where
we're
talking
about,
but
I've,
driven
through
it
and
I,
see
that
things
are
built
really
nicely
and
I
wouldn't
want
these
carports
to
be
built
in
such
a
manner
that
it
really
distracts
sort
of
from
the
aesthetic
that's
been
established.
So
is
there
anything
that
the
city
will
rely
upon
when
working
with
this
developer.
AW
That's
a
that's
a
really
great
question
so
baked
into
this
buy
right.
Zoning
overlay
ordinance
proposed
ordinance
we've
for
each
Zone,
we've
kind
of
taken
a
look
at
in
a
given
specific
plan,
either
The
Village
at
the
park
specific
plan
and
then
also
the
Camarillo
Commons
strategic
plan
they
kind
of
have.
They
already
had
pre-existing
architectural
design
guidelines.
G
B
AY
B
B
AR
AR
That's
I
think
why
we
all
live
here
in
this
town
prior
to
buying
into
Brookshire
I,
actually
helped
raise
money
for
that
YMCA.
That's
next
door
to
the
Brookshire
development,
not
even
knowing
that
I
would
live
there.
One
day,
I
bought
the
dream.
I
wasn't
even
something
I
could
see
at
the
time
it
was
off
a
drawing
and
I
was
the
smallest
guy
in
town,
because
there
were
already
town
homes
and
single
family
dwellings
all
over
the
neighborhood.
AR
What
this
overlay
is
going
to
do
is
going
to
change
the
Community
forever
you
get
off
the
freeway.
Everybody
gets
off.
The
freeway
feels
I'm
home.
What
this
will
do
is
allow
me
to
realize
that
I
selected
the
wrong
town
to
live
in,
because
apparently
there's
a
density,
bonus
and
I'm
just
going
to
guess.
AR
That
means
more
people
that
live
in
one
place,
it's
better
for
you,
guys,
oddly
enough
I,
didn't
see
any
of
those
drawings
on
the
board,
for
let's
say:
Spanish
Hills,
Santa,
Rosa
Valley,
now
I'm,
not
behind
everything
that
you
guys
read
but
I'm
just
telling
you.
This
is
a
really
bad
idea.
Anybody
that
lives
in
that
Community
is
not
going
to
like
this
I
got
an
orange
card
to
show
up
tonight
in
the
rain
and
I'm
glad
I'm.
Here.
AR
That's
not
why
people
bought
in
that
Community
not
to
have
low
rent
housing
not
to
have
possible
other
things
going
on.
You
have
one
of
these
properties
next
to
a
school
already.
If
you
ever
take
the
path
down,
the
riverbed
you'll
see
graffiti
everywhere,
it's
bad!
It's
not
the
Planning
Commission
that
deals
with
that
I
guess,
but
it's
bad
and
the
more
low
rent
housing
you
bring
in
that
element
tends
to
increase.
AR
F
AZ
H
good
evening,
Madam
chairman
members
of
the
Planning
Commission
I'm
Dennis
hardgrave,
representing
EG
Investment
Company,
the
owners
of
identified
Parcels,
V3
and
V4
and
I'd
like
to
go
to
address
V4
initially
and
I,
don't
know
if
you
can
bring
the
image
up,
but
it
would
be
I.
Think
page
51
in
your
report
is
V4,
where
it
shows
that
we
requested
an
additional
parcel,
be
added,
which
is
a
lot
two
of
that
tract
and
I'll.
AZ
Give
you
a
quick
overview
of
why
that
is
and
if
I
have
still
time
at
the
end,
I'd
like
to
also
address
Mr
Bird's
comments.
First
of
all,
lot:
two
is
the
Northerly
lot
northeasterly
lot
within
that
undeveloped
portion
of
the
village
Gateway
that
hasn't
approved
grocery
store
site
on
it
about
a
fifteen
thousand
foot
grocery
store?
AZ
It
was
approved
over
a
decade
ago
and
the
hiji
family
who
or
the
owners
have
diligently
sought
any
grocer
user
who
would
come
in
and
offered
to
pay
rent
on
a
building
that
they
would
build
or
to
build
their
own
building
on
a
purchase
parcel.
We
have
had
no
interest
and
continue
to
have
no
interest
and,
as
you
know,
the
grocery
business
has
completely
revolutionized.
Since
Village
at
the
park
was
designed,
we
have
Target
selling
groceries,
we
have
Walmart
groceries,
we
have
so
many
stores
and
such
a
small
population
growth.
AZ
So
as
a
result,
this
is
a
logical
place
to
add
to
this
cluster.
It
is
being
required
by
the
state
because
of
the
housing
element,
because
it
was
used
in
the
last
housing
element
as
an
identified
site
staff
can
address
that
to
more
detail.
I
do
agree
that
there
are
design
standards
that
will
make
sure
the
quality
of
this
development
has
the
same
appearance
as
The
Village
at
the
park
projects
that
we've
done
you'll
notice
a
they
are
objective
standards
that
have
been
added
to
this.
AZ
Our
firm
has
designed
all
of
the
projects
that
are
within
Village
at
the
park.
We
will
use
the
same
Architects
for
them.
We
will
use
the
same
criteria
when
we
develop
it.
The
heji
family
will
hold
and
own
this
asset
if
they
develop
it
on
on
parcel
4..
So
with
that,
I
recommend
that
you
go
along
with
what
the
committee
has
has
reviewed.
Secondly,
on
parcel
V3
I
do
not
anticipate
that
we
would
do
a
buy
right
project
at
this
location.
It's
not
a
logical
place.
In
my
mind,
I
live
in
village
at
the
park.
AZ
I
was
about
the
fifth
person
to
move
into
Village
at
the
park
and
I've
had
my
officer
for
the
entire
time.
It's
been
there
as
well,
so
I
know
how
the
neighborhood
rolls
that
site
is
near
the
kindergarten
entrance
to
the
elementary
school
and
we
feel
it's
more
appropriate
for
the
existing
zoning
or
even
possibly
lower,
but
we
can't
lower
it.
So
with
that
all
end,
unless
you
have
questions
for
me
or
extend
my
time.
B
AQ
B
P
O
Lemon
I
appreciate
the
the
staff's
work
on
this
item
and
I.
Think
it's
it's
desirable
to
start
implementing
this
new
housing
element.
We
have
a
lot
of
families
who
are
moving
out
of
Camarillo
because
of
the
affordability
crisis.
We
want
to
encourage
community
members
to
stay
in
Camarillo
and
enjoy
the
quality
of
life.
Here
we
have
young
families.
You
know
starting
trying
to
wanting
to
raise
our
kids
here.
Elderly
people
who
are
no
longer
dependent
on
income-
and
you
know,
or
need
to
also
be
able
to
afford
housing
here
in
their
later
stages.
K
Being
mandated
by
the
state
to
provide
housing
and
The
Village
at
the
park,
you
know
I'm
the
one
that's
been
on
the
commission,
long
enough,
where
that
was
at
the
very
beginning
and
I
I
think
the
Developers
delivered
exactly
what
they
presented,
that
we
saw
on
paper
and
and
I
know.
Mr
Hargrave
lives
on
the
lives
in
the
project
to,
and
they
have
all
different
kind
of
product
type
in
there
and
they're
all
seem
to
be
of
the
same
quality
standard
in
aesthetic.
So
I
have
confidence
that.
Q
K
S
K
G
Yeah
I
appreciate
your
comments
about
and
the
knowledge
that
you've
been
involved
with
the
project
for
so
long
I
would
think
that
that
would
probably
give
some
people
a
bit
of
relief.
Knowing
that
it'll
be
stay
consistent
with
the
environment
that
has
already
been
built
and
I
would
I
would
I
think
that
if
there's
some
conversation
in
the
lobby
after
this,
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
the
concerns
can
be
alleviated.
It
sounds
as
if
the
I
know
the
family
is
local
and
I.
G
Think
that
they're
approaching
this
in
the
way
in
which
the
neighbors
of
The
Village
at
the
park
would
be
a
very
comfortable
knowing
the
way
in
which
they're
looking
at
this
and
how
the
development
would
be
approached.
So
I
might
suggest
that,
because
we
have
a
development
near
our
place,
being
Bill
Knight
had
a
similar
lack
of
understanding
of
of
it
and
raised
some
Hoots
and
hollers,
and
then,
when
I
realized
had
learned
what
was
going
on
I.
J
J
J
Think
it'll
be
a
very
good
mix
and
I
think
the
concerns
again
about
the
low
rent
element
won't
bear
out
so
I,
I
and
and
I
appreciate
the
staff
for
all
the
work
they've
put
in
since
the
housing
element
was
approved
in
Fall
of
last
year
and
I
I
have
no
problems
with
how
this
is
being
proposed.
Thank
you.
B
Everything-
and
this
was
changed
from
what
the
other
copies
and
other
ordinances
say,
where
they
have
the
125
square
feet
for
the
studio
or
efficiency,
and
then
the
other
one
says
225
square
feet
for
each
dwelling
or
unit
having
two
or
more
bedrooms
or
less
I.
Believe,
and
with
this
my
concern
with
this
on
tying
in
the
one
bedrooms
and
the
studios
to
that
smaller
amount.
B
Is
that
what
I've
seen
so
far
is
there's
usually
a
lot
more
one-bedroom
units
proportionate
to
the
studios
and
the
one
bedrooms
would
be
more
apt
to
have
couples
moving
into
them.
So
if
you
tie
all
of
that
into
that
smaller
amount
of
common
space,
you're
kind
of
losing
common
space
that
would
be
needed
for
the
total
occupancy.
You
know
in
the
complex,
at
least
when
I
look
at
it.
That
way,
so
it's
I
would
kind
if
that
were
to
be
changed.
B
Ordinance
wide,
but
it
just
seems
to
me
that,
like
what
we
saw,
especially
in
Camino
Ruiz,
there
were
very
few
studio
apartments.
First,
this
is
the
one
bedroom
apartments
and
then
there
was
a
very
there
was
a
small
percentage,
also
two-bedroom
apartments,
so
the
biggest
allotment
there
was
the
one
bedroom
apartments
and
that's
a
hundred,
basically
100
square
foot
difference
in
planning.
J
D
What
we
currently
have
and
kind
of
what
chair,
Vander
millen's
getting
at
is
the
the
way
it's
written
right
now,
mimics
the
cambrio
common
Zone,
and
we
applied
that
for
the
other
two
sites
too,
at
The
Village
at
the
park.
Now
the
underlying
zoning
in
those
two
sites
has
a
different
requirement
than
what's
proposed
right
now.
It's
actually
lumped
in
and
included
with
the
the
two
bedroom
unit.
So
it
has
a
higher
about
100
square
feet
of
required
open
space
in
the
underlying
zoning.
D
It's
a
different
standard.
It
there's
there's
two
other
zones
there
for
zoning,
the
commercial
mix
use
and
then
which
refers
back
to
the
residential
plan
development
which,
in
that
one,
the
one
bedroom
units
have
the
same
requirement
as
a
two
bedroom
unit
would
have
per
bedroom.
The
requirement
would
be
per
bedroom
for
one
and
two.
So,
for
example,
if
it
was
a
one
bedroom,
I
believe
it's
225
square
feet
or
250
square
feet,
I,
don't
remember
top
my
head,
but
but
that
would
it
that
would
be
the
requirement
for
that
unit.
AJ
D
B
D
So
in
Camarillo
Commons
the
the
way
it's
written
right
now,
that's
the
underlying
zoning
requirement.
So
we
just
are
clarifying
that
one
bedrooms
would
be
included
and
that's
kind
of
written
different.
It
says
that
for
each
studio
and
efficiency
and
then
the
next
sentence
is
basically
it
says
for
any
two
bedroom
or
more
so
kind.
It
doesn't.
It's.
I
D
B
Well,
in
a
village
at
the
park
there
are
a
lot
of
kind
of
Open
Spaces
throughout
and
they've
got
the
big
Sports
Fields
there
you
get
across
the
street
too
Camarillo
Commons,
you
know
or
some
of
the
other
areas.
Then
I
mean
to
get
to
a
park
you're
going
down
either
to
Old
Town
or
up
to
our
Neil
park.
G
I
guess
what
I'd
want
to
know
is
how
many
units
are
we
talking
about,
because
in
in
actuality,
are
we
talking
about
500
square
feet
over
the
course
of
an
entire
development,
or
are
we
talking
thousands
of
square
feet
because
of
the
size
of
it
and
without
knowing
that
it?
It
could
be
such
a
small
amount
that
we're
talking
about
that
it.
It's
almost
not
worthy
of
discussion
or
to
your
point.
It
could
be
so
much
that
and
to
the
gentleman's
Point
who
wants
his
neighborhood
to
stay
the
same.
G
It
could
feel
very
like
canyons
and
cavernous,
and
and
not
at
all,
in
in
line
with
what
village
of
the
park
sort
of
is
so
I
guess
we
need
to
know.
That
is
what
you
know.
What's
the
impact
or
what's
the
difference
between
applying
the
old
way
and
now
this
way
and
what
does
that?
What
are
those,
what
is
the
square
footage
actually
equal
out
to
it?
Yeah.
B
D
AW
The
yeah
yeah
I'd
be
happy
to
give
those
numbers
and
but
David's
absolutely
right,
really
for
camrio
Commons
mixed
use.
We
kept
what
was
already
there
as
far
as
open
space
requirements,
so
that
did
not
change
all
that
change.
There
was
a
clarification.
There
seemed
to
be
a
little
bit
of
a
a
gap
in
the
code
where
it
didn't
mention
one
bedroom
units.
It
just
said
two
or
more
or
Studio,
or
efficiency.
Well,
where's,
one
bedroom
in
that,
so
we
we
lumped
in
one
bedroom
alongside
studio
and
efficiency.
AW
So
for
that
one
we
didn't
really
change
the
open
space
requirement.
However,
on
RPD
we
did
change
the
open
space
requirement.
We
made
it
mere
cambrio
Commons
mixed
use.
So
to
your
point
specifically
for
one
bedroom
units
in
RP
on
the
RPD
site,
we
would
be
losing
potentially
for
one
bedroom
units
about
100
square
feet
of
open
space
if
they
were
doing
one
bedroom
unit.
So
on
that
point
it
makes
sense.
Certainly.
BF
J
J
AW
G
W
D
You
guys
make
the
motion,
because
we're
still
kind
of
in
discussion,
so
resolution
number
PC,
2023-5
residential
Planning,
Commission
of
the
City
of
Camarillo,
recommending
approval
to
the
city
council
of
an
ordinance,
adding
chapter
19.35
to
the
camera
admissible
code,
creating
a
buy
right
overlay
Zone,
allowing
ministerial
approval
of
residential
development
that
includes
affordable
housing
to
lower
income
housing.
Households
on
certain
real
property
identified
in
the
2021-29
housing
element.
AK
AE
Madam,
chairperson,
you
can
make
a
motion
either
to
incorporate
the
changes
and
then
make
a
separate
motion
to
adopt
the
resolution,
or
you
can
make
a
single
resolution
adopting
the
resolution.
I'm.
Sorry,
a
single
motion
adopting
the
resolution
subject
to
the
revisions
of
the
Planning
Commission
would
like
to
make.
AA
G
We
did
at
the
we
did
it
the
other
way
before
we
can
do
it
either
way.
This
I
mean
I'm
fine,
with
that
okay
I'll
make
so
I'll
make
a
motion
that
we
adopt
the
resolution
or
recommend
approval
of
the
resolution
with
the
amendment
that
the
RPD
lots
are
subject
to
the
old
version
of
open
space
requirements
based
on
bedroom
number.
AW
AW
So
we
actually
believe
as
staff
that
that
specific
500
square
feet
per
bedroom
for
units
that
have
three
or
more
bedrooms
may
have
been
a
typo
way
back
when,
because
that's
a
really,
you
know
1500
square
feet
of
open
space
per
unit
for
I
mean
that's,
that's
a
that's
more
than
you
would
probably
get
in
a
single
family
home.
So
I
don't
want
to
overly
lead
you
all
I
just
want
to
make
sure
for
that
piece
of
it.
The
three
bedrooms
are
more
I.
AW
G
BH
B
AI
B
B
AW
I
hope
you
all
aren't
sick
of
me
at
this
point,
so
I'll
be
presenting
the
arneel
road
mixed
use,
but
just
the
GPA
change
of
Zone
and
negative
declaration
next
slide.
Please
a
little
bit
of
background
on
June
20th
2017,
the
city
acquired
the
property,
with
the
ultimate
purpose
of
developing
a
mixed-use,
affordable
housing
project
at
the
arneel
road.
AW
Mixed
use
project
was
acquired
with
certain
Legacy
Redevelopment
funds
from
the
low
and
moderate
income
housing
asset
fund
and
that's
important
because
it,
it
kind
of
to
some
extent,
dictates
a
little
bit
what
we
need
to
do
with
the
site.
It
doesn't
give
us,
you
know,
complete
flexibility,
so
on
January,
24
2018,
the
city
council
approved
Professional
Services
agreement
with
RRM
Design
Group
for
the
conceptual
design
of
the
our
Neil
Road
mixed
use,
development
project
and
the
parties
entered
into
a
written
agreement.
Effective
March,
7,
2018
next
slide,
please,
and
so
on
the
process.
AW
There
was
quite
a
bit
of
back
and
forth
between
staff
and
RRM
on
this,
because
we
really
were
trying
to
tailor
the
project
as
much
as
we
could
to
get
it
just
right
and
then
I
guess
with
the
pandemic
as
well.
That
may
have
slowed
things
down
as
well,
but
so
in
October,
2nd
2019.
The
city
received
the
first
submittal
from
RRM
for
the
proposed
mixed
use
project,
but
the
city
staff
required
Corrections
on
the
submittal
again
on
July
30th
2020.
AW
Second
submittal
City
staff
also
required
Corrections
and
then
finally,
so
December
15
2022
City
staff
received
the
33rd
submittal
and
after
a
little
bit
of
back
and
forth
and
discussion,
staff
ultimately
found
the
project
submittal
to
be
complete.
February,
2nd,
2022
next
slide
so
elements
of
the
arneel
road
mixed
use
project
so
we're
today
we're
bringing
forth
the
general
plan
Amendment
the
change
of
Zone
and
the
negative
declaration,
and
this
is
to
allow
for
the
future
consideration
of
conditional
use
permit
400..
AW
So
we
can't
bundle
it
all
together,
because
the
findings
to
permit
conditional
use
conditional
use
permit
400
are
kind
of
contingent
on
these
previous
actions.
So
that's
why
it's
not
all
coming
together,
so
just
again,
I'm
stressing
that
point
because
you're
not
approving
the
actual
mixed-use
project
today,
just
these
pieces,
it's
but
the
arneel
road
mixed
use.
Project
under
cup
400
is
a
proposed
mixed-use
development
consisting
of
nine
multi-family
residential
units
and
500
square
feet
of
can
of
commercial
space
and
two
buildings
next
slide.
AW
Please
and
the
cup
400
it'll
be
considered
if
all
of
these
pieces
that
you're
considering
today
are
approved
by
the
city
council,
the
project
site
located
north
of
the
101
freeway
on
the
east
side
of
arneel
road.
So
you
can
see
breakout,
Masters
down
below
and
I.
Think
it's
a
Pizza
Hut,
oh
Jiffy
Lube
is
north
yeah,
so
Jiffy
Loop
is
north
of
the
site.
Break
Masters
is
down
south
next
slide.
AW
Please
so
a
little
bit
of
just
to
appraise
you
of
what's
around
there
in
terms
of
zoning,
so
the
actual
project
site
is
currently
General
commercial
and
the
zoning
designation
is
commercial.
It's
of
course
vacant
north
of
the
sites,
General
commercial
and
it's
plan-
development,
commercial,
CPD,
South,
General,
commercial,
commercial
plan,
development
as
well.
East
is
medium
density.
Residential
and
then
to
the
West
is
commercial,
mixed
use
and
the
cambrio
commons
specific
plan,
so
negative
declaration,
2023-1
no
significant
impacts.
AW
The
proposed
mixed
use
project
was
accounted
for
in
the
housing
element
as
a
site
where
units
were
planned
to
be
developed,
so
it
counts
towards
Arena
numbers,
or
it's
already
been
counted
towards
Arena
numbers
and
approval
of
once
again.
Approval
of
the
GPA
and
dncz
will
allow
for
the
later
consideration
of
that
mixed
use.
Project
next
slide,
just
we're
not
considering
it
we're
not
considering
it
today,
just
want
to
give
you
a
vision
of
what
what
that
would
look
like.
AW
So
the
proposed
project
would
finish
off
the
existing
sidewalk,
which
is
nice
there,
because
we
kind
of
have
like
a
half
of
a
sidewalk
along
there.
If
you
had
a
chance
to
drive
past
the
site,
you
probably
noticed
the
proposed
project
exceeds
parking
requirements.
20
parking
spaces
are
offered
next
slide,
so
we
have
the
elevations
there.
It's
that
mission
style
it's
within
the
Heritage
zone
of
the
freeway,
in
that
it's
within
100
or
a
thousand
feet
of
an
interchange.
So
it's
it
really
has
to
kind
of
stick
to
this
style.
AW
Next
slide,
it
adheres,
like
I,
said,
adheres
to
the
Heritage
Zone
standards,
Spanish
mission
style
next
slide,
and
the
proposed
mixed-use
building
fronting
our
Neil
Road
would
be
a
two-story
building
that
includes
commercial
space
and
also
community
space,
and
on
the
second
floor
of
that,
front-facing
building
would
be
two
one
bedroom
residential
units.
The
two-story
backbuilding
would
provide
two
two
bedroom
units
and
five
one
bedroom
units,
so
today's
suggested
actions
are
to
adopt
a
resolution
recommending
approval
of
negative
declaration.
J
C
D
So
to
answer
your
question,
the
answer
is
yes
or
no,
so
it
kind
of
depends
so
the
The
Zone
land
use
could
change
and
the
zoning
could
change.
However,
the
negative
Declaration
of
the
SQL
document
basically
locks
in
a
project
the
same
size
or
less.
It
cannot
be
bigger
than
that.
Otherwise,
that'll
trigger
a
a
new
SQL
review
which
would
have
to
we
have
to
go
through
that
process
and
it
could
be.
You
know,
coming
back
to
you
guys
again
for
approval
of
that
for
approval.
Just
the
the
SQL
document.
D
That's
inconsistent
with
our
land
use
and
zoning,
so
we
need
to
have
that
in
place
first
and
then
we
can
have
the
the
cup
for
the
this
project
be
approved,
but
really
links
it.
All
together
is
the
the
negative
declaration,
so
the
project
cannot
be
larger
than
what's
described
in
that
negative
declaration,
because
that
is
the
SQL
review
for
the
project.
J
BI
D
Could
change
it?
You
know
slightly,
but
you
know
it
it
they
could,
but
I
don't
know
if
that
would
trigger.
I
would
like
to
bring
up
our
sequa
expert
here
to
see
if
that
would
actually
trigger
an
additional
review.
I
didn't
think
so.
Okay
yeah
so
he's
shaking
his
head.
No,
so
the
parking
could
change.
Okay,.
AE
BJ
AE
All
right,
commissioner
Murphy,
if
I
may,
just
for
purposes
of
clarification
of
the
record,
the
cup
is
not
before
the
Planning
Commission
at
this
time,
so
it
would
not
be
coming
back
to
the
Planning
Commission
when
it
came
before
the
Planning
Commission.
It
would
be
upon
first
impression
it's
it's
not
as
if
it's
being
table
to
a
later
date.
It's
not
under
consideration
at
this
time.
AE
L
G
Thanks
I
have
a
question
more
of
a
maybe
a
learning
curve
for
me
on
this.
It
is
this
normally
how
something
this
one
seems
like
a
one-off.
It
seems
like
an
awful
lot
of
planning
and
commitment
to
a
very
specific
project
has
happened
before
the
zoning
has
even
been
addressed,
which
seems
a
little
bit
cart
before
the
horsesh
is
that
this
is
me
learning
not
not
a
criticism.
I.
AW
G
And
is
it
correct
say
that
the
Lim,
the
use
of
this
land
is
so
is
pretty
restricted
based
on
the
way
in
which
it
was
acquired?
I
think
is
what
you
said.
So,
in
other
words,
it's
everybody's
hands
are
pretty
much
tied
with
this
property
based
on
the
the
funds
used
to
acquire
it,
and
then
the
requirement
based
on
those
funds
is
that
right.
AW
D
Correct
sorry,
Mr
Fowler
is
absolutely
correct
that
it
is
unusual
because
it's
the
city's
applicant
so
we're
kind
of
going
through.
You
know,
we've
been
all
the
the
design
and
you
know
we've
had
the
discussions
on
that.
However,
we
can,
we
still
cannot
approve
a
permit
until
we
change
the
zoning,
so
we
have
to
do
that.
That's
our
normal
process,
but
the
city
being
the
applicant
is,
is
the
unusual.
X
D
We
have
to
have
what's
called
a
project
description
and
we
have
to
do
the
analysis
and
the
evaluation
of
SQL
based
on
that
project.
Description
yeah.
As
long
as
that
you
know
whatever
the
project
you
know
the
permit
for
the
project
whatever
when
it
does
come
to
the
Planning
Commission
for
approval.
As
long
as
it's
consistent
with
the
Project's
description
or
less
it
can't
be
more
intense
it'd
be
the
the
SQL
document
would
be
sound.
Okay,.
K
D
It's
it's
kind
of
similar.
It
is
a
little
bit
more
less
intense
those
two
single-family
homes
we
partnered
with
Habitat
for
Humanity,
about
a
block
east
from
this
site
where
they,
the
city,
acquired
the
property
and
they
donated
the
property
to
Habitat,
and
they
did
US.
What's
called
a
Sweat
Equity
where
the
owners
come
and
actually
work
on
the
the
units
themselves.
D
BI
O
Do
it's
I
think
we
should.
We
should
always
look
for
opportunities
for
affordable
housing
again,
as
I
indicated
in
my
previous
comments.
It's
it's
such
an
odd
location
for
housing.
It's
out
of
you
know
character,
and
this
is
why
it
requires
the
change
you
know
and
when
we're
we
talk
particularly
about
affordable
housing.
O
We
should
Target
areas
that
you
know
are
in
character
with
other
residential
buildings
and
that
you
know
provide
for
a
quality
of
life
for
those
future
residents.
And
here
this
location
is,
you
know
it's
very
close
to
the
freeway.
It's
sandwiched
between
two
automobile
shops
and
directly
across
the
street
from
a
gas
station,
so
just
surrounded
by
you
know
lower
quality
of
air.
So
I
it
is
just
it's
it's
bizarre.
It's
not
the
ideal
location.
O
You
know
anyone
who
can
take
it.
We
should
give
opportunities
for
people
who
are
seeking
affordable
housing
to
have
you
know,
safe
and
and
healthy
housing.
So
I
have
a
concern
about
the
particular
location
and
I.
Don't
know
if
there's
anything
you
can
State
about
whether
this
was
examined
or
what
was
any
findings.
D
D
What
we're
trying
to
do
is
create
a
trend
here,
we're
trying
to
mirror
what's
happening
across
the
street
in
the
Camarillo
Commons
and
have
that
spill
over,
and
you
know
basically
set
the
tone
that
if
the
other
property
owners
wanted,
you
know
to
see
what
what
could
be
done
with
the
property
on
the
east
side
of
our
Neil
in
a
Redevelopment
capacity.
So
we're
trying
to
set
the
tone
and
the
example
to
you
know,
have
those
properties
redeveloped
if
they
choose
to.
O
D
AC
D
B
Yes,
it
is
there,
you
know
in
the
commercial
row,
but
it
does
have
if
I
remember
when
we
were
driving
down
the
alley
on
our
tour.
The
residential
starts
right
behind
it
and
then
the
future
plans
for
across
the
street
if
we
ever
get
the
chance
to
acquire
any
of
those
lands
or
get
those
owners
to
want
to
do
something.
That
was
all
designed
to
be
like
a
lot
of
commercial,
retail
and
stuff
on
the
bottom,
with
residents
and
stuff.
On
top,
you.
B
BO
B
BP
BQ
BO
Name
is
Stephen
Peltz
I
own,
the
Brake
Masters.
That's
next
to
this
lot,
I
would
oppose
it
and
I'd
oppose
it.
For
two
reasons.
One
I
think
you
have
housing
units
for
nine
families.
There's
gonna
be
children
running
around.
You
have
our
Neil
that
has
traffic
non-stop
in
the
alley.
Behind
that
project.
You
have
non-stop
traffic
going
there.
It's
a
dangerous
place
for
kids
to
play.
First
of
all,
no
matter
how
much
parking
you
have
there.
BO
People
are
going
to
buy
a
park
in
my
parking
lot
because
they're
visiting
families
that
are
in
there
my
parking
lot
is
already
full.
So
it's
not
gonna.
It's
gonna
hurt
my
business
but
I'm
more
worried
about
the
kids.
Like
commissioner
Lyman
says,
that's
not
the
place
to
raise
a
kid.
The
kids
are
going
to
run
in
the
street
somebody's
going
to
get
run
over
and
it's
going
to
turn
out
to
be
a
poor
decision.
I
think
there's
better
use
than
trying
to
put
nine
housing
units
in
there.
Thank
you.
B
So
if
there
are
there
any
other
comments,
we
have
a
hand
back
here.
If
you
would
come
up
and
I,
don't
know
if
you
filled
out
a
blue
card
or
not,
but
if
you
you
may
do
we
want
her
to
fill
one
out
after
she's
done
yeah
after
your
comments,
if
you
would
fill
out
a
blue
card
and
then
turn
it
in
please,
okay
and.
BR
My
name
is
Chen,
so
I
own,
the
business
as
Acupuncture
Clinic,
just
right
behind
the
the
Pizza
Hut.
So
this
I
was
I
have
been
there
20
years,
I'm
watching
this
land
as
a
vacancy
I
was
hoping.
A
commercial
will
come
to
make
this
street
consistent,
because
I
knew
it
was
really
basically
commercial
for
the
city,
main
commercial
District,
so
I
agree
that
Mr
Steele
said
so
we
are
neighbors,
but
we
haven't
talked
before.
BR
I
didn't
even
think
it's
possible
to
make
comments,
because
the
city
project,
as
a
city
made
this
issue
already
I
just
listened.
What
come
to
listen
to
see
what
how
to
make
the
project?
How
many
stories
so
I
really
think
this
is
not
the
right
place
for
The
Residency,
which
should
be
more
fair,
consider
of
their
security
for,
if
especially
when
they
have
kids.
So
it's
not
good
for
commercial,
not
good.
BR
For
I
mean
this
is
good
this
year
for
commercial,
not
good
for
the
residents,
especially
for
those
people,
young
residency,
they
have
more,
possibly
have
kids
and
the
kids
have
to
watch
them
to
not
around
to
the
street,
and
the
car
I
saw
a
new
people
drive
very
fast.
Now
they
just
off
the
freeway,
the
the
mind,
not
change,
yet
they
still
have
a
very
high
speed.
I
saw
that
very
busy
harder
for
me
to
cross
the
street
yeah.
Thank
you.
BR
AF
BS
On
this
main
thoroughfare
and
I
heard
some
of
the
comments
here
and
I
think
we
should
be
very
careful
when
we
amend
General
plans
from
commercial
to
other
uses.
I
know
we
already
have
the
two,
the
two
buildings
that
were
talked
about,
the
two
properties
that
were
talked
about
and,
of
course,
there's
a
stock
lumber
yard,
which
is
to
be
developed.
Still,
it's
not
not.
Yet
it's
been
underway
for
a
while
and
I
hope
that
project
comes
to
fruition
soon.
BS
But
I
do
like
the
idea
of
having
a
commercial
commercial
General
plan
for
our
Neil,
Road
and
so
I
hope
we'll
be
very
careful
and
I
I
wanted
to
confirm
that
the
amendment
to
the
general
plan
that
we're
talking
about
only
applies
to
this
project
only
pertains
to
this
project,
not
any
other,
because
people
who
have
invested
and
thought
about
the
future
of
our
Neil
Road
we're
thinking
of
commercial
development.
So
those
are
my
comments.
Thank
you.
G
So
with
that
in
mind,
no
matter
the
project,
we're
really
just
talking
about
in
the
future,
could
this
lot
potentially
be
used
for
so
more
of
a
mixed
use,
and
that
seems
like
a
based
on
its
location,
maybe
not
the
best
but
also
foreseeable,
and
it
could.
Maybe
the
construction
is
wrong.
Maybe
it
can
be
done
so
that
you
know
again.
I
wish
I
hadn't
seen
it,
but
maybe
you
know
it's
commercial
on
the
street
and
everything
else
in
the
back.
G
I,
don't
know,
but
I
don't
see
it
as
an
unreasonable
zoning
change,
because
eventually
infill
development's
going
to
have
to
happen
in
Camarillo
we're
going
to
have
to
start
doing
things
in
places
that
are
non-traditional
and
if
we
are
talking
up
the
street
looking
at
other
things
that
that
could
be
rezoned
and
reused
and
I
that
I
think
it's
a
reasonable,
consistent
use
of
this
property
I
think
maybe
what's
designed
and
presented
made
made
us
kind
of
think.
Maybe
I
don't
like
something
about
that
project,
but
again,
that's
not
before
us
tonight.
G
AA
K
Too,
that
I
kind
of
wish
I
didn't
see
that
project
yet
because
that's
not
before
us,
but
looking
at
the
items
that
are
before
us,
I
I
think
those
are
reasonable.
Also
and
we're
gonna
get
another
look
at
the
specific
project
on
it
at
another
time,
so
I
think
I
can
support
it
for
what's
before
us.
Thank
you.
O
O
C
D
The
project
is
a
mixed
use
project,
so
it
does
in
include
commercial
so
that
that
hasn't
I'd
have
to
look
at
the
the
exact
plans.
I
believe
it
has
an
entrance
on
the
side
of,
but
it
does
front
there's
the
commercial
component
that
is
on
our
Neil
and
then
there's
also
I,
know
we're
kind
of
getting
into
the
the
we
we're
Switching
gears
to
the
the
project.
Oh,
my
computer
just
died
on
that,
but
it
is
a
mixed-use
project.
AE
O
And
the
proponent
of
mixed
use
in
generally,
and
particularly
here,
providing
additional,
affordable
housing
units
and
I
I
see
that
further,
like
further
down
our
Neil,
where
there
is
housing
across
the
street
from
the
where
the
Kmart
was.
You
know
that
big
space
that
would
allow
for
open
space
for
residents
and
children
and
more
of
a
community
type
use
that
would
retain
the
character
of
Camarillo.
O
G
Could
could
the
city
sell
this
and
get
out
from
under
the
requirement?
In
other
words,
hey
we're?
We
don't
want
to
do
it
anymore,
we're
just
going
to
sell
it
to
somebody
and
let
them
build
commercial
I
mean.
Is
there
a
way
out
for
the
city,
or
is
it
basically
the
city's
already
committed
to
this
and
we're
just
standing
in.
D
D
But
the
city
has
used
restricted
funding
to
do
that.
To
on
I
mean,
could
we
unwind
that
I
I
guess
the
ant?
The
technical
answer
is
yes,
okay,
but
thank
you
but
there's
other
things
that
we'd
have
to
do
and
then
we'd
probably
now
we're
not
spending
the
money.
In
a
time
we
matter
and
we've
been
reported,
the
state
for
the
last.
You
know
three
years
that
we're
going
to
do
this
and
we'd
have
to.
D
G
BV
BV
J
Right
so
yeah
it
is
it's
a
tough
little
site.
You
know
previously
there
were
four
homes
and
they
fronted
on
our
Neil
and
I
know
we're
not
to
be
specific
about
the
cup.
But
what
I'm
looking
at
for
the
plan
are
homes.
It
would
basically
front
the
alleyway,
instead
of
in
instead
of
our
Neo,
that
so
there's
a
lot
of
creativity
involved
in
this
and
I
think
that
for
the
city
to
meet
the
arena
goals
for
low-income
housing,
they're
going
to
have
to
be
creative
they're
going
to.
J
If
this
isn't
the
last
one
that
we're
going
to
be
seeing
where
we're
kind
of
stretching
our
heads
and
wondering
if
that's
the
perfect
fit
I,
don't
know
that
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
Perfect
Fit
sites
in
in
the
city,
so
I
mean
that
the
much
larger
development
at
the
the
lumber
site
is
right.
Next
to
to
Lewis,
Road
and
yeah.
There
are.
B
B
You
know
where
we
need
to
go,
so
you
know
whether
it's
that
project
that
we've
seen
or
it's
tweaked
a
little
or
I'm
just
sitting
here
thinking
I
wish
we
could
just
say
the
low
income
units
for
were
for
adults
only,
but
there's
all
kinds
of
rules
that
I
don't
know
that.
There's
any
that
say
we
can
do
that,
but
you
know
those
discussions
come
later
tonight.
We're
really
concerned
with
the
the
general
plan
Amendment
the
zoning
issue
and
the
negative
declaration.
B
D
D
So
resolution
number
PC
2023-7
a
resolution
of
the
Planning
Commission
of
the
City
of
Camarillo,
recommending
approval
to
the
city
council
of
a
Rec
request
by
the
City
of
Camarillo
for
an
amendment
to
the
City
of
Camarillo
General
plan
land
use
element
further
described
as
GPA
2019-2,
located
at
the
East
side
of
our
Neil
Road
between
Brake
Masters
at
238,
arneel
Road
and
the
Jiffy
Lube
at
274.
Arneel
Road.
AA
AL
D
All
right,
so,
the
third
and
final
resolution
so
resolution
number
PC
2023
-8
resolution
of
the
Planning
Commission
of
the
City
of
Camarillo
recommended
approval
to
the
city
council
of
a
request
by
the
City
of
Camarillo
for
a
change
of
Zone
from
commercial
plan
development
CPD
to
Village
commercial
mixed
use,
CMU
located
at
the
East
side
of
our
Neo
Road
between
Brake
Masters
at
238,
arneel,
Road
and
Jiffy
Lube
at
274.
Our
nail
road
further
described
as
cz329.
S
AI
C
C
D
J
B
And
I
I
want
to
give
a
big
thank
you
to
staff
and
James
did
a
great
job,
and
it
was
a
lot
in
here
to
absorb
tonight,
but
I
also
want
to
recognize
our
two
new
Commissioners.
This
is
our
first
full
night
and
it's
been
a
busy
night
and
their
insight
and
complexities.
You
know
that
they
brought
to
their
comments
tonight.
I
think
are
very
welcomed
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
a
great
year
with
the
five
of
us
and
I.
Think
it's
going
to
be
very
interesting
and.