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A
Hey
everybody
and
welcome
to
our
next
northeast
cambridge
aap
session.
I
hope
you're,
all
okay
tonight
we've
been
having
some
technical
issues,
so
I'm
sure
that
we'll
get
through
it.
Okay-
and
this
is
the
sixth
of
our
eight
series
of
topics
for
the
consultation
for
a
north
east
area,
cambridge
action
plan
and
we've
got
a
panel
tonight
for
you
talking
about
design
and
density
and
just
I'll
pick
up
on
some
housekeeping
topics
afterwards.
A
Just
to
let
you
know
the
format
of
the
evening,
we're
going
to
do
a
little
presentation
for
you
with
colleagues
and
then
there'll
be
a
chance
for
you
to
ask
some
questions.
We've
had
some
pre
kind
of
inputted
questions
already
so
we'll
kind
of
pick
up
on
those
as
well,
when
we
don't
have
enough
time
to
answer
all
of
them.
Where
we'll
be
available
on
the
website
and
we'll
put
answers
on
there
over
the
next
few
days
and,
as
usual
caveat
with
some
of
this
stuff.
It
is
a
live
digital
event.
A
So
this
is
a
busy
time
in
the
evening.
If
people
do
drop
out,
please
bear
with
us,
because
we
will
be
trying
to
kind
of
tag
team
and
answer
questions
where
we
can.
We
do
know
some
people's
band,
which
does
tend
to
drop
out.
A
So
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
I'm
going
to
introduce
or
going
to
let
the
the
team
introduce
themselves
and
go
around
the
panel
and
then
we'll
pick
up
on
some
housekeeping
issues.
So
if
I
can
ask
firstly
john
to
introduce
himself.
C
D
Hi
everybody
I'm
hannah
loftus,
I'm
special
projects
officer
at
the
greater
cambridge
shared
planning
service
as
well,
and
I
work
mainly
on
the
community
engagement
and
communication
side
of
things.
So
we've
been
involved
with
really
spreading
the
world
about
the
webinars
and
you
know
developing
kind
of
some
of
the
vision
and
so
forth
with
the
community.
A
Thanks
hannah
we've
also
got
my
colleague,
terry
de
souza.
Here
he's
not
actually
visible
at
the
moment.
I
think
he
is
initially
having
some
technical
issues,
but
he's
one
of
our
principal
policy
planners
and
hopefully
he'll
be
available
by
the
time
we
get
to
the
question
and
answer
session,
and
obviously
this
isn't
just
us.
We've
got
a
really
good
team
working
behind
the
scenes
to
make
sure
that
we've
got
this
webinar
coming
to
you
reasonably
reasonably
expedited,
and
so
what
I
want
to
do
is
just
cut
touching
a
couple
of
housekeeping
issues.
A
The
sessions
being
recorded
so
it'll
be
available
on
both
the
city,
council
and
south
cambridge
district
council
websites,
youtube
channels
and
social
media
after
the
session
for
those
who
can't
make
it
and
you
all,
as
in
the
attendees,
not
us
the
panel
you're,
all
invisible,
which
is
quite
strange
because
I
feel
like
I'm
just
talking
to
my
colleagues.
A
So
you
you
know
you're,
not
in
view,
so
you
know
feel
free
to
you
know
say
what
you
need
to
say
and,
and
you
can
also
post
anonymously
or
you
can
choose
to
leave
your
name.
It
hasn't
got
a
chat
function.
We've
got
a
question
and
answer
at
the
bottom,
so
we'll
see
that
as
we
go
through
the
as
we
go
through
the
presentations-
and
I
think
that's
pretty
much
it.
D
Thanks
paul,
so
I
think
joe's
going
to
share
the
slides
and
we
just
thought
we'd
give
you
a
quick
run
through,
because
we
know
that
some
people
are
more
familiar
than
others
with
the
kind
of
context
for
the
area
action
plan.
As
everybody
I'm
sure
is
aware,
you
know
it
is
a
really
significant
project
for
greater
cambridge
as
a
whole.
It's
182
hectares
of
brownfield
land
in
an
amazing
area
for
transport,
accessibility,
which
I
know
will
be
appearing
on
your
screen
shortly,
and
you
know
it
is
really
a
once
generation
opportunity.
D
So
one
of
the
things
that
is
obviously
the
driver
for
the
area
action
plan-
I
don't
you
able
sorry
is
that
coming
up
the
slide,
because
I
just
want
to
be
able
to
point
to
things
on
the
map
so
well.
One
of
the
drivers
is
that
the
site
isn't
all
owned
by
one
person
and
it's
owned
by
a
series
of
landowners.
D
So
we
really
need
an
area
action
plan
as
a
planning
framework
to
help
us
to
help
us
shape
the
vision
and
bring
all
the
landowners
along
with
us
to
a
shared
vision
for
the
area.
It's
a
complicated
area,
as
people
know
it
has
the
current.
Oh
here
we
are
brilliant.
Thank
you.
D
It
has
the
current
anglian
water
wastewater
treatment
plant,
and
the
idea
is
that
that
will
be
moved
and,
as
I'm
sure,
you're
aware,
there's
a
consultation
that
they're
running
at
the
moment
as
to
where
that
may
get
moved
to,
and
it
really
is
a
strategically
important
location,
but
it
is
also
about
local
communities.
Some
of
the
communities
around
northeast
cambridge
are
some
of
the
most
deprived
in
our
area,
and
really
there
is
a
kind
of
leveling
up
agenda
here
as
well
about
saying.
D
D
It
also
goes
through
the
same
examination
process
as
a
local
plan
would
do
with
an
independent
planning
inspector,
so
this
isn't
a
plan
that
will
get
adopted
next
month
or
even
probably
next
year.
It
is
a
quite
a
lengthy
process,
but
it
is
all
the
more
weighty
and
kind
of
important
for
that
because,
of
course,
the
more
more
significant
the
plan,
essentially
the
more
thorough
of
the
process.
It
needs
to
go
through
next,
please.
D
So
this
is
the
vision
that
we
are
consulting
on
during
this
consultation
and
as
you
can
see,
it
really
is
around
this
idea
of
what
is
a
21st
century
low
carbon
city
district,
that
it's
got
to
be
walkable,
that
it's
got
to
have
this
really
genuine
mix
of
uses.
So
everything
that
you
want
is
on
your
doorstep
and
it's
also
got
to
be
integrated
with
the
surrounding
neighborhoods,
so
that
it's
not
a
kind
of
an
inward
place.
It's
very
much
an
outward
facing
place
that
engages
with
its
surroundings.
D
So
it
is
8
000
homes
which
we
estimate
will
provide
homes
for
about
18
000
people.
The
target
is
that
40
percent
of
those
will
be
genuinely
affordable
and
that's
kind
of
unpacked
a
bit
more
in
terms
of
what
that
means.
We
actually
did
a
webinar
on
housing,
the
other
week,
which
you
can
have
a
look
at,
but
essentially
that's
social,
rented
homes,
council
rented
homes,
as
well
as
shared
ownership
and
other
sort
of
intermediate
types
of
affordable
housing
and
there's
a
huge
amount
of
green
space
in
public
open
space.
D
That
will
come
alongside
that
10
hectares
of
kind
of
major
public
parks
and
squares,
and
that
doesn't
even
count
the
smaller
neighborhood
spaces
and
also
the
retained
spaces.
There's
nearly
nine
hectares
of
retained
green
space
that
already
exists
on
the
site
that
are
going
to
be
protected
and
enhanced
as
part
of
this
next,
please.
D
So
on
to
the
theme
of
today's
webinar,
you
know
it
is
very
much
a
place-making
and
a
design-led
plan.
This
has
been
the
important
part
of
this
from
the
outset.
It's
not
starting
from
a
position
of
numbers
and
so
forth.
It's
starting
from
a
position
of
what
kind
of
district
do
we
want
to
make:
what's
its
identity,
what's
its
character
and
how
can
that
contribute
positively
to
cambridge
as
a
whole?
D
And
it
is
a
really
ambitious
plan
and
I'm
sure,
john
and
sarah
will
talk
about
this
a
bit
more
because
you
know,
I
think
it
is.
It
is
stepping
beyond
some
of
the
things
that
have
been
done
in
the
city
to
date.
It
is
obviously
bigger
than
a
lot
of
the
other
development
sites
that
we've
had
come
up
over
recent
years
and
it
is
more
ambitious
in
terms
of
pushing
what
people-centered
design
really
means.
D
Something
we
do
talk
about
in
the
team
is
that
all
the
buildings
we
all
love
now
from
the
past,
we're
all
new
once
and
really
we
want
to
be
building
the
heritage
of
the
future.
We
want
to
be
creating
spaces
that
your
children
and
grandchildren,
great
grandchildren,
will
be
really
proud
of
in
years
to
come.
So
it
is
about
saying
that
this
proud
tradition
of
outstanding
architecture
must
continue
at
northeast.
D
So
that's
a
really
kind
of
clear
expectation
that
we're
not
assuming
that
developers
will
have
done
it
we're
saying
to
them.
You
need
to
show
us
and
tell
us
and
take
that,
take
us
through
that
story
about
how
you
have
looked
at
your
context
for
your
project
and
developed,
something
in
response
to
that.
D
It
also
goes
through
some
of
the
really
kind
of
important
principles
about
natural
surveillance
and
active
frontages
and
safe
spaces,
as
well
as
also
saying
we
want
to
use
a
quality
review
panel
to
help
us
assess
what
good
design
means
in
northeast
cambridge.
So
that's
a
panel
that
there
are
several
design
panels
in
the
area,
but
the
basic
principle
is
that
we
use
the
quality
review
panel
of
experts
of
other
designers
and
architects.
It's
a
kind
of
peer
review
system
to
say:
well,
actually
is
this
meeting
our
aspirations
and
how
could
it
be
made
better.
D
D
D
It's
not
only
that
the
network
is
really
legible.
So
it's
easy
to
navigate.
You
don't
get
lost.
You
don't
need
a
map
to
get
around.
You
can
kind
of
tell
where
you're
going
very
naturally
that
the
street
furniture,
the
lighting
and
signage
and
so
forth
is
really
great.
But
of
course,
it's
inclusive
to
people
who
have
different
mobility
needs
and
all
of
that
and,
of
course,
that
trees
to
street
trees.
We
just
know
how
important
they
are
not
just
from
a
design
perspective,
but
also
from
a
climate
change
perspective.
D
But
it
is
also
about
saying
we
take
a
really
different
approach,
so
the
primary
streets
where
vehicle
traffic
will
have
through
routes
are
one
type
of
street,
but
most
of
the
streets
will
be
what
we're
calling
secondary
streets
which
are
absolutely
designed
around
people
and
cyclists.
First
and
most
of
them
won't
be
through
routes,
so
they
are
pushing
home.
This
message
that
this
is
people
first
and
cars,
well,
not
even
second,
but
definitely
down
the
user
hierarchy
next.
D
So
these
are
just
a
few
images
that
we
put
together
to
demonstrate
some
of
the
principles
of
the
streets
and
design
terms.
The
primary
streets
will
have
segregated
pedestrian
and
cycle
routes
that
are
separate
from
the
vehicle
traffic
that
makes
them
really
safe,
because
these
will
be
the
through
routes
for
buses
and
for
deliveries
and
other
vehicle
movement.
But
even
so
they're
going
to
be
great
places,
they
will
incorporate
trees.
D
They
will
incorporate
sustainable
urban
drainage
features,
which
is
also
obviously
a
green
feature,
and
they
will
also
incorporate
areas
for
the
ground,
floor
activities
of
shops
and
cafes
and
so
forth.
To
spill
out
all
of
the
streets
will
be
designed
to
a
design
speed,
that's
below
20
miles
per
hour
as
well.
D
Next,
I
think
what
most
of
our
team
get
really
excited
about.
Are
the
secondary
streets
where
we're
taking,
what's
known
in
the
continent
as
a
kind
of
wona
approach
to
streetscape.
That
basically
means
that
you're,
naturally
slowing
down
all
of
the
vehicle
traffic
to
nearly
walking
speed
through
the
way
that
the
street
is
designed,
and
that
means
that
you
suddenly
create
space
for
informal
play
for
socializing
for
all
sorts
of
other
things
to
happen
in
the
street
to
make
that
a
really
active
and
lively
community
center.
D
So
you
can
see
some
of
the
kind
of
principles
here
that
you
could
have
doorstep
play
that
you
have
lots
of
cycle
parking.
You
will
have
blue
badge
parking
if
you're
a
blue
badge
holder,
but
other
people
won't
be
able
to
park
at
their
front
door
because
that's
part
of
trying
to
make
these
really
car
free
streets.
D
D
D
But
the
approach
here
is
really
to
say
that
whilst
it
is
a
bit
denser
that
what
you
may
be
used
to
in
some
of
the
old
parts
of
cambridge,
it
is
very
much
a
stepped
approach.
It
is
not
a
one-size-fits-all
approach
here,
so
around
the
edges.
You
will
be
having
four
to
five
stories,
typical,
that's
the
kind
of
green
areas
on
the
map
and
then
the
yellowish
areas,
maybe
five
to
six
stories,
typically,
the
red
six
to
eight
and
then
the
purple,
which
is
the
district
center.
So
that's
really.
D
D
What
that
has
shown
us
is
that,
really,
if
you
are
building
slightly
taller
and
slightly
more
densely
in
the
middle
of
the
site,
that
doesn't
have
an
impact
on
views
from
the
surrounding
area
to
a
negative
degree.
So
you
know
we're
quite
confident
that
we've
got
an
approach
here
that
will
create
a
sense
of
place,
a
sense
of
buzz
in
the
middle,
but
we'll
also
step
down
appropriately
to
the
edges.
D
It's
really
important
that
we
sort
of
understand
the
density
question
and
again.
This
shows
it
in
dwellings
per
hectare
which
can
be
a
little
bit
difficult
to
understand,
but
that's
essentially
a
kind
of
ratio
of
the
number
of
homes
you
may
get.
Obviously,
a
home
can
be
a
one
bedroom
home,
a
two
bedroom
home
or
a
three
bedroom
home.
D
So
this
is
definitely
not
high
rise
in
the
sense
that
some
people
might
be
worried
about.
This
is
about
an
urban
area
and
it
is
about
somewhere
that
will
feel
like
a
city,
but
it's
not
somewhere.
That
is
kind
of
the
next
canary
wharf,
if
you
like,
definitely
not
landing
in
north
cambridge.
It
is
a
very
gentle
density
next,
so
this
image
shows
the
kind
of
typical
scale
for
most
of
the
buildings.
D
E
Me,
oh
hairy,
apologies!
Oh
yes,
sorry!
I
didn't
introduce
myself
earlier.
I've
had
connection
issues,
but
yes,
hello,
I'm
terry
de
souza,
principal
planning,
policy
officer,
okay.
So
why
are
the
buildings
so
high
in
so
high
and
so
dense
in
the
draft
plan?
E
So,
as
hannah
sort
of
mentioned
in
the
presentation,
they
are
a
bit
higher
and
a
bit
denser
than
some
of
the
older
parts
of
cambridge,
but
they
aren't
actually
that
tall
and
that
diagrams
will
try
to
show
how
that
compares
with
other
buildings
in
cambridge
at
the
moment,
it'll
be
quite
similar
to
the
heights
that
we're
seeing
in
places
like
eddington
and
great
knight
and
and
so
forth,
and
the
typology's
work
that
we've
done.
E
It
looks
at
places
as
well
like
paris
and
amsterdam,
and
that
where
your
typical
sort
of
historic
blocks
are
kind
of
six
to
seven
stories
high
and
they
don't
particularly
feel
overdeveloped
because
of
one
the
quality
of
the
design
and
the
streetscape
and
also
just
thinking
about
you,
know
the
space
between
the
buildings
and
and
the
kind
of
the
quality
of
the
architecture
as
well.
But
I
think
we
also
just
need
to
think
about
about
the
fact
that
you
know
this
is
an
edge
of
cambridge
site
and
there's.
E
You
know,
there's
great
opportunity
here
to
to
kind
of
optimize
sort
of
development
in
this
area
based
on
those
kind
of
sustainable
transport
modes
and
things
it's
it's
a
brownfield
site,
and
you
know
this.
This
really
provides
the
opportunity
for
people
to
live
on
the
edge
of
cambridge
close
to
existing
jobs
and
new
jobs
and
the
services
and
facilities
within
the
city
centre.
E
So
we
really
think
that
we
could
create
somewhere.
That's
that's
livable
that
is
kind
of
unique
in
its
own
way.
It
has
its
own
character.
So
there's
lots
of
opportunity
here.
I
think
high-density
living
there's
quite
a
negative
perception
around
identity
living,
but
you
know
there
are.
There
are
a
lot
of
benefits.
So
when
you
think
about
you
know,
people
will
be
living
closer
to
their
neighbors
and
also
their
workplaces.
E
There'll
be
higher
levels
of
social
interaction
and
also
more
people
actually
helps
to
helps
to
support
other
new
infrastructure
coming
in
as
well.
So,
for
example,
sustainable
transport,
schools,
public
spaces,
the
more
people
there
are,
the
more
people
that
will
use
those
facilities,
the
more
kind
of
the
more
for
business
case.
There
is
really
to
actually
put
those
services
in.
E
In
the
first
place,
we
see
with
a
lot
of
new
housing
estates
where
you
know
you
might
get
a
bus
for
the
first
two
years,
that's
funded
by
the
developer,
but
because
they
built
a
much
lower
densities.
Actually,
those
bus
services
don't
become
viable
in
the
long
term
and
then
the
bus
service
goes.
Everybody
then
ends
up
jumping
in
their
car.
So
you
know
with
a
development
office,
cambridge
and
hopefully
something
like
that-
won't
happen.
A
Think
thanks,
terry
and
hannah
and
for
both
of
the
presentations.
I
think
we've
got
another
question.
I
think
I'd
like
just
to
reiterate
really
some
of
the
pieces
that
hannah
has
said
and
terry
I
mean
we
are
actually
really
excited
by
this
I
mean
it's
it's
something
to
be
celebrated.
I
think
so
you
know
we
want
to
get
it
right.
So
please
get
your
comments
in
now.
I
can
only
see
one
question
so
far
and
there's
22
of
you.
So
let's
get
some
more
questions
here
for
the
team.
C
Yeah,
I'm
gonna.
If
that's
okay,
I'm
gonna
pick
up
this
one
paul.
Absolutely
not.
People
won't
be
crammed
into
tiny
flats,
there's
national
space
standards
for
the
minimum
size
of
homes
and
the
draft
policy
in
the
aap.
We
expect
applicants
to
actually
exceed
these
standards,
and
these
are
great
standards
and
they're
not
just
covering
floor
area,
but
they're
also
covering
floor
to
ceiling
heights
and
that's
to
ensure
that
we
want
these
flats
in
these
apartments
and
these
homes
really
to
feel
really
spacious
and
and
I've
just
touched
upon.
C
They
will
be
mostly
flat
but
they're
going
to
be
really
well
designed
and
we're
we're
confident
that
these
are
going
to
be
great
places
to
live
for
everybody,
not
just
young
people
for
families,
downsizers,
everybody
really
they're
going
to
be
accessible,
flexible
and
adaptable,
and
they're
going
to
have
great
balconies.
So
we're
not
just
thinking
about
sort
of
small
balconies
where
you
can
have
small
tables
and
chairs
we're
thinking
about
roof
terraces,
generous
spaces
that
everyone
can
kind
of
sit
out
and
and
and
enjoy
privately.
C
So
we're
really
thinking
about
a
more
continental
sort
of
way
of
living
and
we're
excited
about
that,
and
we're
also
excited
about
the
fact
that
we're
creating
a
compact
place
where
you've
effectively
got
everything
you
can
have
everything.
On
your
doorstep
and,
like
terry
mentioned,
you
know,
bringing
people
closer
together
in
well-designed
places
and
well-designed
homes
can
create
that
and
foster
that
sense
of
community.
A
Here
thanks,
sarah
sorry,
I've
got
that
one
wrong.
Yeah
we've
got
another
couple
of
pre-prepared
questions
and
then
we're
starting
to
see
some
questions
come
through.
So
this
is
more
of
a
comment.
This
isn't
gonna
feel
like
cambridge
anymore.
B
It
this
is
thanks.
Paul
I
mean
I.
I
think
this
is
a
really
crucial
point
actually-
and
I
know
it's
a
statement,
but
it
is
a
kind
of
worry
that
people
have,
when
you
start
to
add
a
development
of
this
size
to
something
as
kind
of
precious
and
unique.
As
cambridge,
there
is
clearly
a
concern
and
that
it
might
be
harmful.
B
B
Well,
we're
absolutely
kind
of
going
for
a
compact
walkable
place
that
actually,
I
think,
is
rooted
in
those
kind
of
key
traditions
of
cambridge.
We
thought
about
access
to
green
space
into
the
river,
which
is
again
a
really
important
kind
of
characteristic
and
then,
as
we
think,
about
kind
of
cambridge's
character
as
an
evolved
place.
You
know
those
buildings
have
been
reused
and
repurposed
over
the
years.
We're
thinking
of
policies
within
the
plan,
which
will
talk
about
how
these
new
buildings
can
be
adapted
and
changed
to
meet
future
needs.
Again.
B
You
know
the
idea
of
a
kind
of
fine
grain
place
a
human
scale
place,
and
I
think
you
know
all
of
these
things
kind
of
line
up
to
kind
of
help
create
a
good
framework
for
something
that
understands
the
character
of
cambridge,
but
actually
can
deliver
something
which
is
exciting
and
kind
of
new
and
can
meet
and
resolve
the
current
kind
of
concerns
and
issues
that
we're
all
facing
things
around
kind
of
climate
change,
about
work-life
balance,
about
moving
towards
and
actually
embracing,
low-car
dependency
and,
importantly,
a
kind
of
really
inclusive
place.
B
So
I
think
it's
a
kind
of
it's
an
exciting
chance
to
add
something
to
cambridge,
but
it's
really
kind
of
crucial.
It's
done
in
a
context-sensitive
way
and
some
of
the
things
that
hannah
talked
about
in
terms
of
the
hia,
the
heritage,
impact
assessment,
the
visual
impact
assessments
and
all
of
these
other
things
and
the
requirements
for
subsequent
developments
to
do
undertake
these
processes
as
part
of
their
planning.
Application,
I
think,
is
how
we
create
the
best
possible
chance
to
create
something
that
is
of
now,
but
is
also
of
cambridge.
A
Thanks
john,
that's
great
and
I
think
on
my
understanding,
that's
the
there's
a
few
more
questions
to
come
through
that
we
have
had
through
emails,
but
we'll
start
picking
up
some
of
your
questions
now
live,
so
I'm
going
to
go
firstly
to
the
first
question.
E
Yes,
sorry,
my
internet
is
playing
up
again,
so
I'm
going
to
tell
my
video.
So
hopefully
you
can
still
hear
me.
That's
a
really
good
question,
it's
something
that
we
picked
up
on
in
the
open
space
and
biodiversity
webinar
that
we
had
about
10
days
ago.
E
So
what
what
we're
proposing
is
that
each
of
the
flats
will
have
private
immunity
space,
so
that
is
in
the
form
of
balconies
for
the
flooded
developments.
But
one
of
the
key
things
is
that
with
flatter
developments,
it
also
allows
you
to
to
have
kind
of
those
communal
spaces.
So
they
will
be
those
that
are
accessible
to
the
residents
within
that
block.
So
you
can
think
about
things
like
courtyards
or
podium
terraces
and
also
roof
gardens
as
well.
E
There
are
a
few
examples
in
the
presentation
that
I
gave
on
the
open
space
q
a
session
that
that
sort
of
gives
you
a
bit
of
a
flavor
of
what
they
may
look
like,
but
essentially
yes,
there
will
be.
There
will
be
outside
spaces
and
gardens
for
residents
as
well
as
those
kind
of
opens
public
open
spaces
as
well,
which
hannah's
mentioned
in
in
the
presentation.
So
those
kind
of
the
linear
park
and
larger
open
spaces
and
the
neighborhood
ones
as
well.
D
Just
in
case
you
didn't
catch
the
original
question
there,
I'm
just
going
to
read
it
out
again,
because
I
know
paul's
audio
dropped
out,
which
was:
will
each
block
of
flats
have
its
own
outside
space
or
garden
for
residents?
And
I
think
the
other
thing
to
add
is
they
will
also
have
private
space.
So
we
have
a
minimum
standard
for,
as
terry
was
mentioned.
D
I'm
just
going
to
pick
up
the
next
question
here,
which
is:
can
we
comment
on
the
need
for
lifts
in
high-rise
and
the
problems
with
one
person
per
lift
in
high-rise
buildings
recently?
So
this
is
a
really
topical
question
with
covid
recently,
and
we
do
understand
where
this
concern
is
coming
from.
I
think
there's
two
answers
to
this.
Firstly,
I
think
the
perception
of
kind
of
high
rise
is
something
that
we
want
to
unpick
a
little
bit,
because
you
know
we
aren't
talking
about
buildings
where
we've
got
many.
D
Many
floors
above
what
would
be
considered
a
kind
of
walkable
level,
so
we
are
going
to
make
sure
that
buildings
have
really
great
stair
provision.
Although
I
hate
to
mention
grenfell,
we
know
that
after
grenfell
there's
an
increased
amount
of
awareness
on
actually
making
stairs,
really
safe
and
really
good
quality
environments
from
lots
of
perspective.
D
So
you
do
have
options,
you
don't
have
to
use
the
lift,
and
I
think
you
know
this
is
one
of
these
issues
where
we
are
having
a
watching
brief
on
kobe
covert
has
brought
some
of
this
stuff
up
that
just
wasn't
on
our
radar
until
this
year
and
we
have
a
watching
booth
for
covid
on
a
lot
of
levels.
We
know
there
may
be
economic
changes.
We've
talked
about
working
from
home.
D
We
actually
think
that
nec
is
really
well
placed
for
a
lot
of
this
stuff,
because
the
whole
idea
of
having
a
mix
of
uses
and
that
you
might
have
neighborhood
workspaces,
where
you
know
co-working
spaces
and
so
forth,
where
you
can
go
locally
or
not
having
to
get
in
public
transport
and
travel
long
distances
is
great.
But
I
think
this
is
something
that
we're
going
to
review
and
I
wouldn't
be
surprised
if
there
comes
out
new
guidance
over
the
next
year
about
lifts
and,
of
course,
we'll
take
that
on
board
in
the
design
process.
A
Thanks
thanks
hannah,
let
me
know
if
my
my
teammates
will.
Let
me
know
if
my
audio
drops
out
again
and
we
will
tag
team
it's
lightly.
I'm
gonna
move
on
to
question
number
three:
that
I've
got
on
my
list
of
guys
with
an
improved
and
subsidized
better
public
transport
system.
How
are
discard.
E
Is
that
pulled
up
paul
dropped
out
again
yeah
yeah,
so
how?
How
are
we
discussing?
How
are
we
discouraging
car
owners
from
getting
about?
I
think
that's
a
really
good
question.
That's
something
that
we
will.
We
will
probably
go
into
more
detail
on
during
the
connectivity
q,
a
webinar,
that's
coming
up
over
the
next
week
or
two,
but
just
to
to
think
about
it
in
terms
of
the
design
sort
of
context
of
this
webinar.
It's
it
really
starts
with
the
street
design.
E
Now
I
think,
as
hannah
showed
in
the
presentation
it's
you
know,
we
are
creating
we're
creating
streets
at
northeast
cambridge
we're
definitely
not
creating
roads.
We
want.
We
want
those
kind
of
spaces
between
buildings
to
be
completely
focused
on
the
needs
of
people
rather
than
vehicles
and
and
one
of
the
first
principles
off.
That
is
all
about
off
clock
car
parking.
E
So,
whilst
there
will
be
parking
for
blue
badge
holders
and
for
access
and
emergency
vehicles,
what
what
for
the
majority
of
people
that
will
be
using
or
owning
cars
in
north
east
cambridge,
those
cars
will
be
stored
away
from
their
doorstep
and
they'll
be
stored
in
what
we're
calling
car
barns.
Now.
That
then,
means
that
you
can't
you
don't
just
jump
into
your
car
to
go
to
the
shop.
Actually,
you
have
a
choice.
E
You
can
either
walk
to
the
shop,
which
might
be
a
five
minute
walk
away
or
you
get
in
your
car,
which
is
a
five
minute
walk
away
to
then
drive
to
to
then
drive
to
a
shop,
so
actually
the
first,
the
almost
like
the
the
natural
choice
would
be
walking
and
cycling
purely
by
the
way
that
the
streets
are
designed
and
the
fact
that
you're
not
going
to
have
your
car
outside
outside
your
outside
your
living
room.
E
The
other
thing
that
we're
really
keen
to
do
is
encourage
car
share
car
sharing,
so
car
clubs
as
well.
So
you
know
we
recognize
that
people
do
need
cars
at
times.
You
know
if
you
need
to
do
the
weekly
shop
or
you
want
to
go
and
visit
family
that
live
elsewhere.
You
know
we're
not
saying
that
you
can't
have
a
car,
but
actually
for
a
lot
of
people.
Their
car
just
sits
on
their
driveway
for
a
lot
of
the
time
and
and
they
only
might
need
a
car
kind
of
once
or
twice
a
week.
E
Well,
that's
where
car
sharing
would
be
really
useful
for
for
a
number
of
people,
and
that's
really
common
now
in
a
number
of
developments,
not
only
in
cambridge
but
elsewhere,
and
then
the
last
point
I
wanted
to
raise
was
about
the
fact
that
northeast
cambridge
will
we've
been
really
conscious
in
in
in
planning
for
this
area
to
connect
the
dots
really
with
a
number
of
existing
and
future
walking
and
cycling
schemes
that
are
coming
forward.
E
E
So
again,
it's
not
just
saying
you
know
it's
a
completely
disjointed
network
for
people.
We're
trying
to
really
work
with
with,
what's
been
planned
to
to
bring
everything
together.
So
it
becomes
really
easy
for
people
to
walk
and
cycle.
A
Great
thanks,
terry,
I'm
still
here,
I'm
just
going
to
go
behind
my
my
written
name,
because
it's
probably
a
better
way
of
me
being
able
to
communicate
with
you
it's
a
interesting
time
of
night
to
be
doing
webinars.
I
think
we've
had
this
all
the
way
through
so
like
you've
got
to
bear
with
us,
because
this
is
our
our
first
proper
consultation
during
during
these
sort
of
restrictions.
A
So
then,
moving
on
to
the
next
question,
if
there
is
a
negative
perception
of
high
density
living,
it
may
be
because
of
the
experience
at
cv1,
for
example,
where
there
have
been
problems
with
noise
disturbance
between
black
or
inappropriate
use
of
green
space.
And
how
will
you
manage
to
avoid
this
anti-social
aspect?
B
Yeah,
I
mean,
I
think,
it's
a
really
crucial
thing
when
you
start
to
put
a
lot
of
people
in
the
same
place,
you
can
really
kind
of
start
to
annoy
each
other,
and
I
think
we've
been
really
careful
in
the
kind
of
policies
to
think
about
how
you
kind
of
layer
up
different
uses.
So
it's
not
only
is
it
about
kind
of
kind
of
residential
to
residential,
but
it's
also,
all
of
those
other
uses
like
office.
B
Business
uses
things
like
maker
space,
all
of
these
sorts
of
things
which
can
add
to
the
kind
of
richness
and
vitality
of
a
new
district,
and
so
I
think
we
will
be
really
keen-
and
you
know,
working
with
environmental
health
colleagues
to
think
about
the
kind
of
performance
criteria
for
buildings
so
that
you
don't
get
noise
transference
through
the
structure,
but
also
what
adjacent
users
are
doing,
either
above
you
or
to
the
side
of
you.
B
And
then
I
think
we've
been
really
careful
looking
at
the
size
and
scale
of
some
of
the
open
spaces
and
their
location
within
that
the
overall
kind
of
framework
to
make
sure
that
you
can
kind
of
minimize
the
potential
for
kind
of
negative
use
of
those
spaces,
so
making
sure
places
are
active
and
well
surveilled
that
they
are
part
of
kind
of
vital.
You
know
kind
of
urban
and
active
districts
and
local
centers.
All
of
these
things
can
kind
of
start
to
help
address
some
of
those
things.
B
But
again
it
comes
down
to
not
only
what
goes
in
the
aap
but
into
the
kind
of
future
design
of
buildings
and
making
sure
that
we
have
the
right
kind
of
review
processes
in
place.
We've
mentioned
people
like
the
chemistry
equality
panel,
helping
out
in
terms
of
that
peer-to-peer
review
so
again,
bringing
other
experts
in
to
kind
of
really
give
the
place
a
good
and
thorough
going
over.
I
think
to
help
address
some
of
the
points
raised.
A
Thanks
very
much
john,
so
hannah,
I
think
you're
going
to
pick
up
this
next
question
and
have
you
considered
external
shading
and
view
of
the
climate
heating
up
and
insulated
buildings
being
hard
to
call.
D
We
I
realized
that
yes,
absolutely
and
actually
there's
a
diagram
in
the
climate
change
policy
which
talks
about
exactly
this
and
all
the
different
measures
that
we
want
to
put
in
place
for
climate
change,
and
I
think,
there's
a
really
interesting
point
here
because
of
course
nationally
we're
aiming
towards
net
zero
carbon
by
2050.
So
that's
a
really
ambitious
target,
and
this
is
one
of
the
first
kind
of
major
developments
that
we're
going
to
be
seeing.
That
is
absolutely
addressing
that
head-on.
D
So
it's
not
just
about
external
shading,
but
it's
also
about
natural
ventilation,
about
making
sure
that
spaces
are
cooled
through
passive
means.
You
know
it's
about
thermal
mass,
it's
also
about
things
like
trees.
You
know
the
urban
heat
island
affected.
You
know
we
talked
about
how
important
trees
are
for
open
spaces,
but
it
definitely
is
a
climate
thing
as
well.
So
there's
a
whole
range
of
design
features
that
we're
looking
at
and
to
jump
to
the
last
questions
point
about
noise.
D
One
of
these
aspects
is
building
regulations,
so
you
know,
building
regulations
put
in
place
requirements
for
things
like
energy
performance
and
noise
and
other
aspects
of
design
performance
which
is
planners.
We
don't
really
get
to
influence
all
that
much,
but
we
also
know
that
those
building
regulations
are
going
to
change
and
adapt.
So
a
little
bit
like
the
covert
thing.
It
is
about
us
putting
an
aspiration
out
there
and
also
pushing
government
and
making
sure
that
we
really
get
better
standards
so
that
we
can
be
as
demanding
as
possible
on
developers
as
we
go
forward.
A
Yeah
absolutely
one
of
the
next
questions
I
think
we're
going
to
get
terry
to
pick
up
is
around
open
space
and
I
think,
there's
a
few
more
down
here,
so
maybe
some
of
these
will
be
picked.
Some
of
your
questions
will
be
answered
within
this
you've
spoken
about
the
amount
of
outdoor
space
as
if
it's
luxurious.
A
E
Yep
happy
to
pick
that
one
up
yeah.
So
as
we
sort
of
mentioned
in
the
presentation,
so
there
will
be
a
range
of
open
spaces
that
we're
proposing
for
northeast
cambridge.
So
the
10
hectares,
that's
referred
to
in
the
question,
is
about
new
strategic
open
space.
So
that's
predominantly
the
linear
park
which
stretches
from
nuffield
road
allotments
all
the
way
through
to
milton
county
park.
E
So
that's
about
a
kilometer
in
total
in
its
length,
and
it
will
also
spur
off
over
the
railway
line
and
into
chest
and
fen
and
then
on
to
the
river
the
river
cam
corridor
as
well.
E
There's
also,
as
hannah
mentioned,
about
nine
hectares
of
open
space
on
the
site
at
the
moment
which
we're
looking
to
obviously
protect
and
enhance,
and
then
there's
the
neighborhood
open
spaces
as
well,
which
aren't
shown
on
any
of
the
diagrams
because
they
would
be
they
would
be
designed
and
come
forward
as
part
of
a
planning
application
for
much
smaller
sort
of
parcels
of
land.
E
E
E
Now,
obviously,
at
this
high
level,
we're
not
designing
individual
blocks,
we're
just
setting
out
an
overall
kind
of
framework
for
the
area,
so
so
the
amount
of
open
space
that
would
come
forward
in
those
communal
spaces
would
need
to
be
determined
at
a
later
date
as
part
of
a
planning
application,
but
nevertheless,
there's
still
standards
that
those
that
those
open
spaces
would
need
to
comply
with
both
in
terms
of
immunity,
quality
and
in
terms
of
the
space
that
those
balconies
would
need
to
provide
as
well.
E
E
So
I
just
want
to
say
that
the
plan
also
sorry
the
plan
also
tries
to
improve
connectivity
to
wider
areas
so
milton
country
park,
and
the
river,
like,
I
said
as
well,
but
also
to
existing
open
spaces
within
the
city,
so
think
about
things
like
nuns
way
and
the
open
space
on
green
end
road.
So
it's
not
just
about
new
residents
using
those
facilities,
but
it
also
allows
existing
residents
in
the
area
to
access
new
facilities
and
in
the
wider
countryside
and
country
country
park,
beyond
which,
I
think
is
really
important.
A
Thanks,
terry,
you
certainly
don't
have
to
apologize
for
to
providing
comprehensive
answers
like
that.
That's
and
that's
that's
great.
We've
got
a
couple
of
questions
because
it
came
in
via
email
as
well
and
I
don't
want
to
lose
them
because,
obviously
they
were
kind
of
first
come
first
served
and
we
are
getting
quite
a
few
questions
coming
through.
A
I
would
reiterate
to
you
that
we're
not
going
to
just
leave
these
questions
unanswered,
so
anyone
that
we
don't
get
through
by
the
end
of
the
session
today,
which
is
about
another
15
minutes
or
so,
and
we
will
answer
those
questions
on
the
website
and
they'll
be
available
as
well.
So
I
think
we
had
a
couple
of
questions,
one
first
being
the
plans
are
based
on
20
000,
new
jobs
with
8
000
new
homes
for
18
000
residents
and
who
decided
on
those
numbers.
E
Okay,
so
thanks
more
so
one
of
the
things
that
we
did
to
begin
with
was
we
looked
at
examples
from
elsewhere,
so
best
practice
examples
from
cambridge,
the
uk
and
further
afield
as
well.
So
we've
looked
at
places
like
the
netherlands
and
germany
and
and
denmark
and
places
like
that.
So
that's
in
the
northeast
cambridge
typology
study,
so
that's
available
on
the
website
and
as
a
planning
document.
E
As
far
as
they
go,
it's
actually
a
really
easy
read
because
there's
lots
of
pictures
and
it's
quite
easy
to
digest,
and
so
I
highly
recommend
reading
that
what
we
then
did
we
applied
those
typologies,
those
examples
to
the
areas
and
the
sites
that
are
likely
to
come
forward
within
the
aap
area
over
the
next
20
years,
and
we
considered
all
of
those
against
the
kind
of
the
vision
for
northeast
cambridge
to
create
a
real
mix
of
uses.
So
we
didn't
just
look
at
you
know:
housing
developments
and
office
developments.
E
We
looked
at
how
we
could
try
and
apply
those
kind
of
mixed
use.
Examples
within
a
northeast
cambridge
context
so
that
we
do
achieve
a
good
balance
of
new
homes
and
jobs.
As
well
as
retaining
existing
jobs
as
well,
which
is
a
really
important
part
of
the
plan,
so
yeah
and
then
what
we
did,
we
also
had
to
be
really
mindful
about
the
hip
funding.
E
E
Actually,
we
were
providing
a
good
range
of
homes
that
would
enable
us,
or
the
city
council,
as
a
developer
in
anglia
and
water
to
to
develop
the
site
for
housing,
but
also
think
about
addressing
traffic
and
congestion,
and
things
like
that
as
well
as
part
of
that,
because
office
development
actually
is
one
of
the
one
of
the
worst
culprits
for
for
people
traveling
by
car
and
actually,
if
you
can
try
and
get
a
really
good
balance
of
homes
and
jobs
within
short
distance
of
each
other,
that
are
then
easy
to
access
by
foot
and
by
bike
in
other
modes,
and
actually
it
really
helps
us
to
to
work
within
the
trip
budget
for
the
area.
E
Now,
there's
quite
a
lot
of
information
in
the
aap
and
on
the
website
about
the
trip
budget
and
how
we're
trying
to
reduce
car
levels
within
the
area.
So
I
won't
go
into
too
much
detail
about
that,
but
essentially
what
we'd
really
like
to
hear
your
your
thoughts
on
is
whether
we've,
whether
we've
got
the
mix
of
uses
right
in
northeast
cambridge,
you
know.
Are
we
providing
too
many
jobs?
Are
we
providing
too
many
homes?
A
Yeah,
that's
absolutely
right.
Second,
question
that
came
in
from
email
is
with
15
000
jobs.
Currently
on
the
site.
The
plan
means
a
rise
to
a
total
of
35
000
jobs.
How
many
of
the
18
000
population
do
you
expect
to
feel
those
jobs
and
who
will
re,
fill
the
remaining
workplaces
and
where
will
they
live?
I
mean
that's
a
forward-thinking
question,
I
suppose
in
the
light
of
covered
and
changes
of
behaviour.
But
john,
do
you
want
to
pick
this
one
up.
B
Yeah
I'll
give
that
a
go
paul.
I
think
yeah
covert
has
kind
of
quite
radically
changed
what
some
people's
expectations
are
about
where
they
live
and
where
they
work.
But
I
think
the
point
around
northeast
cambridge
is
about
creating
a
self-sustaining
city
district.
That
means
that
you
can
choose
to
live
and
to
work
in
kind
of
close
proximity,
and
I
guess
what's
really
interesting.
B
Is
we've
been
looking
through
some
of
the
evidence
and
not
necessarily
a
workplace,
but
cambridge
regional
college
has
got
a
catchment
of
50
miles
and
you
know
a
lot
of
people
on
in
some
of
these
high-tech
businesses
on
the
science
park.
Again
experience
kind
of
quite
significant
commutes
to
get
to
the
site,
and
that
is
about
affordability
of
accommodation
relative
to
wages,
and
so
the
idea
that
you
can
start
to
deliver
a
lot
of
residential
units
within
close
proximity
means
that
people
over
time
can
make
quite
a
conscious
decision
about
where
they
locate.
B
Maybe
they
can
cut
out
that
very
long
commute.
So
I
think
you
know
we
would
ideally
hope
that
everybody
living
there
worked
very
locally.
We
can't
demand
that,
but
we
can
hope
that
you
know
that
offer
makes
it
very
attractive
and
then,
when
you
look
at
the
kind
of
transport
accessibility
of
the
new
district,
now
cambridge
north
station
has
radically
changed
the
accessibility
map
for
this
area.
B
So
again
that
and
the
kind
of
greenway
projects
and
the
other
cycling
and
walking
routes
means
that
we
can
give
it
the
best
chance
that
people
can
make
a
sustainable
mobile
choice
when
they're
trying
to
get
to
that
place
and
if
they're
living
there.
Clearly
they've
got
access
to
all
of
those
things
already.
D
Can
I
just
come
in
on
that
john
cause?
I
think
there's
also
another
really
interesting
point
here,
which
is
how
we
work
with
employers
on
the
sites
and
that's
been
really
part
of
the
aap
itself
as
well.
So
one
of
the
types
of
housing
that
we're
looking
at
is
actually
rental,
housing
or
block
lease
housing,
which
is
for
local
employers.
So
the
idea
that,
actually
you
know
you
may
be
able
to
offer
an
affordable
place
to
live
to
your
new
recruits,
which
is
within
walking
and
cycling
distance.
D
So
that's
another
way
that
we
can
really
help
to
shape
this
kind
of
very
different
vision.
Here
and
again,
this
is
all
kind
of
subject
to
development
over
time,
and
this
is
a
20-year
plan.
So
it's
not
all
about
it
kind
of
popping
up
in
the
next
five
years,
but
we
do
think
that
this
trend
is
is
going
to
be
really
important.
People
don't
want
to
have
to
commute
for
an
hour
every
day
to
get
to
work
and
different
ways
of
living
and
working
will
come
into
play
here.
A
Yeah,
it's
it's
really
important
and
I
think
it
is
important
to
to
know
that
this
is
a
long
term
development.
It
seems
very
now
when
we're
consulting
or
something.
But
you
know
we
are
aware
that
you
know
things
have
kind
of.
You
know
dramatically
changed
in
the
last
three
four
months
in
relation
to
covid,
and
you
know
it
would
be.
It
would
be
wrong
of
us
to
even
try
and
predict
what
that
might
mean,
and
I
think
to
pick
up
on
the
next
question.
A
That's
on
on
my
list
here
is
around
some
of
the
heritage
and
further
evidence-based
work
that
we
are
doing
for
this
particular
particular
plan
around
heritage
and
townscape,
and
there
are
some
additional
pieces
of
work
that
we
will
need
to
be
doing,
and
they
will
also
tie
into
some
of
the
work
that
we're
doing
on
a
more
strategic
basis
around
the
greater
cambridge
local
plan,
because
of
course
you
know
it's
part
of
a
much
bigger
area.
A
You
cannot
view
it
in
isolation,
so
you
know
we
know
that
there
are
further
pieces
of
work
and
they
will
be
for
coming,
but
all
of
the
work
we
are
doing
is
is
now
going
up
onto
the
website
and
there
will
be
some
information
on
there
as
you
go
forward,
so
you
can
keep
an
eye
on
where
things
are.
Gonna
move
a
bit
more
quickly.
Now
we've
got
about
another
eight
minutes
left
and
try
and
get
through
as
many
of
these
as
we
can
really
is
there.
A
E
Yeah,
I
think
that's
a
really
good
question,
so
at
the
moment
the
council
is
setting
out
what
it
thinks
is
the
most
kind
of
appropriate
mix
of
uses
and
where
those
where
those
uses
could
go.
Now,
if
you
look
at
the
the
land
use
plan
in
the
in
the
in
the
aap,
it's
it's
quite
flexible
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
what
it's
saying
and
it's
not
just
you
know,
housing
goes
here
and
office
goes
here.
E
It's
you
know
it
is
a
real
mix
of
uses
within
each
of
those
those
kind
of
development
blocks.
But
again
you
know
this.
This
consultation
is
a
is
a
really
important
part
of
of
sort
of
telling
us
what
you
think
you
know.
Do
you
think
that
the
plan
is
too
flexible?
Do
you
think
that
we
should
be
kind
of
a
bit
more
rigid
so
that
you
know
we?
We
have
a
bit
more
certainty
moving
forward
or
have
we
got
the
mix
of
uses
in
a
particular
location
wrong?
E
E
Cycle
cycle
facilities,
I
think
sarah
was
going
to
pick
that
up,
but
cycle
stories
need
to
be
plentiful,
easy
to
use
in
the
right
place,
but
tends
to
be
an
ugly
ugly
storage
area.
Fair
enough.
Do
you
have
design
ideas
about
this,
and
will
they
be
underground,
as
often
in
the
city
center?
Sarah,
you
know
I'd
answer
that
one.
Please.
C
Yeah
I
mean
I
absolutely
agree
with
the
comment
that
they
they
need
to
be
plentiful,
easy
to
use
and
in
the
right
place,
and
if
they're,
not
people
just
just
will
leave
their
cycles
everywhere.
We've
got
some
really
well
great
examples
from
the
continent
about
sort
of
multi-level
cycle
storage,
almost
cycle
bonds
that
we
could
think
about
in
terms
of
sort
of
commercial
uses.
But
thinking
about
how
we
provide
cycle
parking
for
residents,
it's
really
important
that
that
they
are
plentiful.
They
are
well
lit.
C
They
are
close
to
where
people
want
to
be
and
and
they
feel
safe
and
attractive
to
use.
But
it's
not
just
about
sort
of
how
transparent
they
are
in
terms
of
being
able
to
look
into
them
to
see
who's
there.
It's
also
about
the
cycle
storage
themselves
and
being
able
to
provide
cycle
spaces
for
a
range
of
bikes,
and
we
recognize
that
you
know
bikes
come
in
all
shapes
and
sizes.
There's
a
lot
of
off
gauge
cycles
in
in
cambridge,
we've
got
adult
trikes
we've
got
hand
bikes.
We've
we've
got
lots
of
cargo
bikes.
A
D
Say
that
we're
going
to
share
some
slides
now
that
show
you
how
you
can
comment
on
the
consultation,
there's
been
loads
of
really
great
questions,
and
we
will
also
post
answers
to
any
that
we
don't
get
around
to
on
our
website,
so
do
check
back
there.
The
webinar
is
also
going
to
be
recorded
and
we'll
be
up
on
youtube
in
probably
24
hours
or
so
joe
is
incredibly
efficient
with
this
stuff.
But
please
do
come
to
any
of
the
other
webinars
and
also
do
comment
on
the
on
the
consultation.
D
So
many
of
these
points
that
you're
making
are
just
brilliant
points.
We
really
want
to
hear
them.
It's
important
that
we
hear
what
you
support
in
our
plans
as
well
as
what
you
think
you
could
do
differently
or
better
and
all
of
those
comments
get
read
and
absorbed
and
will
influence
the
shape
of
the
plan
to
come.
A
Yeah,
I
know
that's
really
important
and
obviously
a
comment
on
the
format
as
well,
because
we'd
be
interested
to
hear
feedback.
I
know
it's
not
perfect,
but
it's
you
know
it's.
It's
certainly
something
that
we're
getting
used
to
doing
now
and
I'm
gonna
do
another
couple
of
questions.
I
think
we've
got
a
couple
more
minutes
and
you
talk
about
multi-level
development
and
to
show
sports
skills
on
roofs,
etcetera.
If
it's
developed,
piecemeal
but
there'll
be
no
way
to
make
thoroughfares
walkways
at
the
ground
level.
D
Yeah
I
mean
I
could
probably
pick
up
some
of
this.
I
think
one
of
the
really
important
things
about
the
aap
is
that
it's
actually,
whilst
they
are
development,
plots
and
some
of
them
will
be
developed
out
at
different
times.
It
isn't
in
a
sense
that
piecemeal
development,
where
we
we
are
actually
being
really
specific
about
the
routes
between
different
places,
so
there's
maps
and
diagrams
that
show
exactly
where
we
are
saying
has
to
be
connected
to
where
and
through
and
over
milton
road
is
a
really
key
one
there.
D
So
we
are
being
really
specific,
and
I
think
if
there
are
other
things
that
you
see,
that
you
think
we
have
missed
in
terms
of
those
connectivity
links.
If
you
think
that
there
are
different
things
that
we
should
be
considering,
please
please
put
them
into
the
connectivity
policy
questions
and-
and
you
know,
chapters
into
the
into
the
consultation,
but
we
do
want
to
make
sure
that
all
of
those
routes
meet
up
logically,
are
really
intuitive
to
navigate
and
are
of
course
accessible.
D
D
There
is
a
reference
I
will
be
very
glad
to
give
it
to
you.
If
you
go
into
the
consultation
pages
and
you
look
at
the
chapter
on
the
development
process,
there
is
actually
a
chapter
there,
which
is
on
digital
innovation
and
smart,
what
we
call
sort
of
open
innovation
and
that
actually
talks
about
waste,
because,
from
our
perspective,
things
like
waste
collection
are
a
point
of
innovation
where
we
want
to
facilitate
effective,
and
you
know,
if
necessary,
digitally
driven
waste
management.
D
So
we
are
encouraging
buildings
to
be
quote-unquote
smart
in
that
sense,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
are
saying
it
makes
you
a
smart
building
is
in
fact
incorporating
a
single
waste
collection
point
to
facilitate
efficient
waste
management
for
multi-tenanted
buildings.
So
this
is
definitely
something
that
we're
looking
at.
We
know
that
there's
also
other
great
examples
around
the
place
of
new
approaches
to
waste.
It
is
a
huge
issue
and
we
are
addressing
it.
A
A
It's
still
strange
because
my
video's
not-
and
I
can't
see
you
even
though
I
can't
anymore
and
we'd,
just
really
like
to
thank
you
for
all
of
coming
along
I'd
like
to
thank
all
of
the
panel
and
officers
who
have
been
working
on
this
and
please
please,
please
complete
the
feedback
survey
once
the
q
a
is
closed
and
also
you
know,
comments
on
both
the
q,
a
the
format
and
obviously,
of
course,
on
the
actual
consultation
itself.
A
It's
open
for
another
few
weeks
and,
as
hannah
said,
there's
another
two
live
webinar
sessions
and
coming
up
in
the
next
couple
of
weeks
too,
and
but
thank
you
for
coming.
Thank
you
to
the
panel
and
I
hope
you
all
have
a
lovely
rest
of
your
evening.
I'm
sorry
for
the
call
noises
and
the
chicken
noises
in
my
background,
and
but
that's
just
the
way
we
work
nowadays.
Isn't
it
and
have
a
lovely
evening.