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B
We
pray
for
our
country
at
all
times
that
all
citizens
are
safe,
healthy
and
happy.
We
pray
for
wisdom
for
all
those
who
guide
in
govern
help
this
government
body
in
every
situation
to
know
and
to
do
the
things
that
are
right
and
just
with
soundness
of
judgment
and
making
vital
decisions.
We
pray
for
the
peacemakers
that
the
holy
life-giving
spirit
may
ever
dwell
in
their
hearts
and
the
barriers
of
fear,
suspicion
and
hatred
may
fall.
This
we
pray
to
the
Holy
Father
amen.
C
Good
evening
my
name
is
Ben's
ed
ermine
I'm,
an
advanced
ent
and
I'm,
the
former
regional
director
for
rusik
Region,
five
EMS
I'm.
Also
the
program
former
program
director
for
training
center
I
just
wanted
to
provide
a
brief
clarification
on
something
I
read:
EMS
providers.
We
can't
just
go
to
our
local
fire
houses
and
our
local
hospitals
anymore
to
get
EMS
education.
C
Okay,
so
we
are
all
held
to
national
standards
and
it
was
created
from
the
National
Registry
of
emergency
medical
technicians
that
was
brought
down
to
the
each
state
and
each
state
licenses
each
training
center.
So,
for
example,
mean
we
have
eight
or
so
training
centers
throughout
the
state.
Our
level
Aroostook
EMS
was
an
EMT
level,
training
center
and
northern
Maine
Community
College.
Our
only
other
training
center
is
the
paramedic
level
facility.
C
Now
they
had
to
go
through
jump,
leaps
and
bounds
to
get
accredited
through
national
accreditation
for
their
paramedic
level,
training,
standard
EMT
course
140
hours
and
the
state
is
something
to
push
it
to
225
hours
of
just
in-class,
EMS
education,
that's
not
telling
clinical
time
or
job
shadowing
or
ride
time.
Paramedics
can
get
to
2,000
hours.
I've
just
EMS
education,
let
alone
12
to
1500
hours
of
clinical
time.
C
In
addition
to
that
or
the
span
of
two
to
three
years
of
education,
it's
nationally,
they
want
you
to
have
a
bachelor's
degree
in
EMS
to
go
out
and
make
just
above
minimum
wage
right.
It's
a
big
struggle
right
now,
naturally,
but
it's
going
to
be
worked
out
right,
it's
a
true
profession
and
it's
not
anything
to
be
taken
lightly.
I
don't
want
anyone
to
just
think
that
we
are
backwards
trained.
C
We
have
to
go
through
72
hours,
every
three
years,
every
license
cycle
to
keep
our
education
and
to
keep
our
licenses
current
and
what
we
learn
here
in
caribou
and
Presque
Isle,
they're
learning
all
across
the
nation,
Alaska
Texas
California.
What
have
you
I
just
want
to
bring
that
point
of
clarification
for
just
to
emphasize
that
we
are
not
a
fly-by-night
operation
and
I
want
to
open
up
to
you.
If
you
have
any
questions
for
me
or
anything
about
EMS
I've
been
the
coordinator
for
the
past
five
years.
C
C
Apologize
but
I'm
more
than
willing
to
come
back
any
time
and
I
know
councilman
hair
from
the
local
emergency
planning
committee,
which
I
still
sit
on.
So,
if
you
need
anything
I
know,
miss
Ferran
has
my
phone
number
and
contact
information
to.
Please
feel
free
to
reach
me
any
time
she
has
your
email.
She
does
because
I'm
also
a
notary,
public
and
bail
commissioner
here
for
the
state
of
Maine
as
well.
So.
C
D
E
Mr.
Muir
deputy
mayor
guess,
city
manager
and
councillors,
my
name
is
Milo
Heaney.
Before
I
start
here,
I
was
asked
to
ask
you
people
if
you
could
bring
you
mic
so
closer
to
you.
When
you
speak,
a
lot
of
people
can't
hear
it
you,
you
know
talk
away
from
the
mics,
so
that's
just
one
thing:
I
want
to
pass
on
here
tonight:
project
on
the
27th
of
January.
The
council
meeting
was
held
at
that
meeting.
E
Several
people
from
the
fire
department
and
other
citizens
came
into
the
meeting
only
to
be
up
in
arms
over
the
fire
and
ambulance
service,
stating
that
you
counselors
were
trying
to
do
away
with
services
to
those
people
that
don't
understand
what's
been
going
on.
They
need
to
look
at
the
full
picture.
A
E
Meeting
after
hearing
several
people
rampant
rage
about
losing
services
and
not
knowing
how
and
why
we
got
in
this
mess,
no
one
except
for
Wolford
Martin,
bought
any
solutions
to
the
council.
His
solution
was
that
we
form
committees
to
see
what,
if
anything,
could
be
done
to
make
it
better
for
the
people
of
this
community
and
I
believe
he
was
referring
to
all
departments
because
he
brought
up
the
police
department
as
well
tonight.
I
see
on
the
agenda.
The
you
councilors
are
going
into
executive
session
on
public
works
union.
E
E
He
told
me
he
plows
100
miles
of
roads
with
his
infrastructure
and
had
a
total
of
nine
full-time
men
and
hired
a
couple
part-time
in
the
winter,
with
a
budget
for
that
year
of
900
$54,000.
At
that
time,
Kerber
was
plowing.
140
miles
of
road
with
the
infrastructure
had
22
full-time
men
and
a
budget
of
two
million
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
40
extra
miles
of
roads.
We
paid
1
million
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
more
than
for
Fairfield.
E
To
add
a
little
more
to
this,
like
I,
know
it
reports
for
to
for
2015
or
the
year
the
public
works
budget
was
1
million,
nine
hundred
and
seventy
five
thousand
three
hundred
and
ninety
five
dollars
for
2018
of
the
year.
The
budget
was
2
million.
Four
hundred
and
sixty
seven
thousand
eight
hundred
eighty
four
dollars
a
difference
of
four
hundred.
Ninety
mm
$489
up
for
those
people
who
think
I'm
wrong
in
my
numbers.
Please
look
at
the
audit
reports
for
yourself.
E
Having
said
this
tonight,
I
asked
you
conference
and
city
manager
to
take
a
hard
look
at
each
department.
As
I
said
a
few
times
to
see
this
city
is
under
crisis
and
people
are
relying
on
you
to
do
the
right
thing,
so
we
all
can
afford
to
live
here.
As
Paul
powers
stated
in
a
few
weeks
ago,
25
businesses
will
close
in
five
years.
Three
have
closed
since
the
first
of
this
year,
in
2010,
population
for
cable
was
around
80
200
people.
Today
we
have
probably
7500
people
with
a
declining
population.
E
Almost
all
departments,
since
2010
have
gone
up
over
500,000
plus
dollars.
The
budget
for
2019
is
as
followed:
Rec,
Department,
717
thousand
seven
hundred
forty
nine
dollars,
the
police
department,
two
million
one
hundred
and
fifteen
thousand
five
hundred
and
thirty
dollars,
fire
nameless
department,
two
million
two
hundred
and
seventy
thousand
four
hundred
eighty
one
dollars
Highway
department,
two
million
three
hundred
and
two
thousand
six
hundred
and
fifty-seven
dollars
in
this
budget
does
not
reflect
their
insurances
and
retirement.
E
That
is
a
separate
line
item
of
ninety
five
thousand
fifty
dollars
for
anybody
that
thinks
my
numbers
are
wrong
here
tonight.
Please
go
online
and
read
them
for
yourself.
So
again,
counselors
and
city
manager.
Look
at
these
numbers
in
the
budget
and
ask
yourself:
can
we
do
better?
This
is
what
it
looks
like.
We
take
it
off
the
line
three
years:
that's
the
numbers!
If
anybody
wants
to
look
out.
F
Good
evening
my
name
is
Jennifer.
Quinlan
and
I
grew
up
in
Caribou
graduated
from
Caribou
high
school,
then
I
went
away
for
college,
lived
down
state
and
central
Maine
for
about
ten
years.
However,
as
my
own
daughter
approached,
school-aged
I
knew
that
I
wanted
to
return
to
Caribou
to
home.
I
wanted
to
raise
my
daughter
in
a
place
where
I
had
the
utmost
confidence
in
the
safety
and
security
of
our
community.
Now
I've
been
a
resident
of
caribou
for
the
last
thirteen
years.
F
F
F
F
That
said,
when
I
learned
that
the
council
was
considering
going
with
a
private
entity
to
provide
emergency
medical
services
to
the
citizens
of
caribou,
I
felt
I
had
to
share
my
story
on
January
24th
2016
at
the
age
of
40
I
had
a
major
cardiac
event
at
around
2:45
in
the
morning,
I
went
into
cardiac
arrest
at
my
caribou
residence,
my
husband
called
911
CPR,
the
best
he
could
and
in
under
eight
minutes
after
dispatched
at
303
a.m.
caribou,
fire
and
ambulance
and
their
advanced
cardiac
life.
F
F
Despite
what
we
see
on
television
when
a
person
suffers
suffers
a
major
cardiac
event,
a
single
two-person
crew
is
sometimes
not
capable
of
providing
all
necessary
treatments
and
procedures
in
a
timely
manner,
which,
incidentally,
is
what
a
private
entity
provider
usually
consists
of,
and
in
my
case
personally
time
was
of
the
essence,
thanks
to
their
training
and
wealth
of
experience,
each
crew
member
and
at
one
point
their
words.
Six
or
seven
of
them
in
my
home,
knew
exactly
where
to
station
himself
and
exactly
what
needed
to
be
done.
F
F
After
working
tirelessly
for
nearly
40
minutes,
just
to
stabilize
me
enough
to
transport,
I
was
loaded
in
an
ambulance
and
was
alive
when
I
arrived
at
Carey,
Medical
Center,
but
I
wasn't
out
of
the
woods
yet,
and
the
caribou
fire
and
ambulance
department
was
called
back
to
carry
three
hours
after
the
late.
They
delivered
me
there
as
I
was
deemed
critically
ill
and
needed
transportation
to
the
airport,
so
I
could
be
flown
to
Bangor.
Again,
the
clock
was
ticking.
F
My
heart
continued
to
stop
and
be
restarted,
and
the
quick
response
time
of
our
EMS
staff,
not
to
mention
the
Cariboo
paramedic,
who
accompanied
me
who'd,
elated
my
heart
three
more
times
in
flight.
What
can
I
say
I
owe
these
guys
everything,
full-time
fire
and
ambulance
service,
provides
the
optimum
service
and
the
most
favorable
outcomes
for
the
citizens
of
our
city.
When
we
face
very
serious
medical
emergencies,.
F
Our
fire
and
ambulance
service
has
the
process
mastered.
I,
don't
think
you
can
understand
the
true
importance
of
this
service
until
you
or
someone
you
care
about
or
someone
you
love
requires
emergency
medical
assistance.
We
know
what
we
have
right
now:
a
fire
and
ambulance
department
of
the
highest
quality.
We're
staffing
allows
multiple
crews
to
be
dispatched
when
it
means
saving
a
life.
The
level
of
service
they
provide
and
the
accomplishments
of
the
department
surpass
even
those
in
some
of
the
larger
cities
in
Maine.
F
It
wasn't
until
after
I
recovered
from
my
heart
attack
that
I
learned
that
per
capita
Caribous
department
actually
has
the
highest
Ross
rate.
That's
return
of
spontaneous
circulation,
that's
when
you're
dead
and
they
bring
you
back
to
life
highest
rate
of
Ross
rate
in
the
state.
I
understand
budgets.
I
understand
the
need
to
explore
options
but
I
as
a
caribou
citizen
would
like
my
City
Council
members
to
find
a
way
to
balance
fiscal
responsibilities.
F
With
the
responsibility
that
you
have
to
protect
the
people,
we
stopped
considering
the
elimination
of
a
department
that
literally
saves
the
lives
of
its
citizens.
I
understand
that
private
companies
provide
some
of
the
same
services,
but
I
think
they
do
not
have
the
same
staffing
levels
and
perhaps
level
of
experience
or
expertise,
and
that
becomes
very
important
when
it's
your
life
or
the
life
of
someone
you
care
about.
F
That's
on
the
line,
I
feel
confident
in
speaking
for
the
numerous
people
who
are
alive
today
because
of
the
experienced
highest
quality
personnel
employed
by
the
caribou
fire
and
ambulance
department,
when
I
respectfully
ask
that
the
service
be
left,
as
is
a
public
entity
that
our
city
can
be
proud
of
and
count
on
when
we
need
them
most.
Thank
you.
Thank.
H
I
don't
know,
I
can't
follow
that
it's
hard,
my
attire
I
didn't
plan
on
speaking.
My
name
is
Richard
Leonard
I
live
at
11
country
road
here
in
caribou,
I've
been
a
taxpayer
with
me
and
my
wife
for
approximately
about
15
years,
I,
just
kind
of
kind
of
a
a
question.
Basically
maybe
a
statement
I'm
a
paid
call
firefighter
with
the
Kerbal
finance
department
also
worked
at
Cary
in
the
pharmacy
part-time
in
the
event
that
a
local
Township,
let's
say,
does
not
take
our
services
and
they
pick
up
the
phone.
H
Let's
say
in
Township
a
and
they
dial
nine-one-one
just
wondering.
If
anybody
knows
that
like,
if
we're
the
closest
department
is
that
that's
gonna
be
our
response
right
I,
don't
think
that
we
can
do
we
can't
decline
that
can
we
I
mean
unless
we
don't
have
that
a
quit
person
hell
I,
think
that
we
have
to.
We
have
to
go.
We
don't
Richard.
I
H
I
A
J
I,
don't
want
anybody
to
be
disappointed
here
because
I
getting
up
tonight
and
speaking
my
piece
I've
heard
all
kinds
of
stories
here
tonight
about
how
great
the
the
fire
department
is
and
the
ambulance
services
and-
and
you
know
what
they're
right.
There's
no
question
in
my
mind
that
we
do
have
a
pretty
good
fire
and
ambulance
service.
J
We
also
have
a
lot
of
people
that
we've
hired
to
service,
that
service,
to
say
that
it
can't
be
done
any
better
in
the
private
sector
is
something
that
I
sort
of
take
offense
with
because
of
the
ambulance.
Service
should
be
in
the
private
sector,
and
it
should
be
done
through.
The
medical
system
should
be
too
closely
tied
to
the
hospital.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
the
hospital
that
we
have
in
Caribou
and
I
think
they
could
do
a
better
job
with
it.
J
E
J
Working
at
it
personally
I
think
it
should
go
private,
that's
my
opinion
and
in
the
private
sector
they
can
do
it
as
well
as
they
could
in
the
in
the
in
the
fire
department.
There's
there's
nobody
that
can
tell
me
that
a
fireman
is
a
better
person
than
a
person
out
the
private
sector
as
a
person
that
can
be
a
first
responder
as
as
a
person
that
runs
an
ambulance
or
works
for
the
ambulance
service
and
can
provide
the
medical
services
needed.
J
All
they
have
to
do
is
go
to
the
hospital
and
take
the
same
courses
that
the
fire
department
does
at
the
same
time
in,
and
they
can
do
it
in
the
private
sector
just
as
well
and
take
it
off
our
hands,
because
it's
not
working
folks
where
we're
going
to
be
in
deep
trouble
if
our
budget
goes
any
higher.
Because
of
this
and
it's
killing
us
the
the
population
this
town
is
going
is
getting
smaller.
J
J
You
have
to
be
used
to
this
kind
of
weather.
You
have
to
be
born
in
it
like
an
Eskimo
and
it's
it's
awful
hard
to
live
here.
For
somebody
that
comes
in
from
the
outside
I
mean
it's.
It's
almost
like
the
the
northerners
going
south
in
the
wintertime
there
when
it
when
it
gets
hot
down
there
they're
glad
to
come
back
home
because
it's
a
little
cooler
up
in
Aroostook
County.
J
Yes,
there's
just
nothing
to
keep
them
here,
but
we
got
to
come
up
with
a
better
widget
Volvo
folks,
because
we
just
can't
afford
this
fire
and
ambulance
service.
It's
just
no
way.
I
mean
you
can
cry
all
you
want
about
needing
these
services,
but
there's
just
no
way.
We
can
do
it
the
way
we're
going
now.
So,
unless
we
put
some
thought
into
it
and
get
our
heads
together
here
and
get
it
down
to
where
we
can
live
with
it,
it
isn't
gonna
work
for
us.
J
It's
got
to
go
private
and
and
that's
it
that
that
is
my
opinion.
I
can
see
a
counselor
shakin,
her
head
right
now
and
and
and
I
know
she
doesn't
like
it
that
way,
but
I
don't
know
why
she
doesn't
I
mean
okay,
would
work
either
way,
it'll
work,
so
don't
don't
downgrade
the
private
sector
by
saying
it
could
be
done
better
in
the
fire
department
because
they
can't.
You
know
it's
it's
it's
working
for
us
now.
J
J
A
J
J
Every
bit
of
this
is
paid
for
by
the
private
sector,
not
the
public
sector
right
down
to
their
taxes.
Okay,
it
comes
out
of
the
private
sector
and
that's
the
it's.
The
only
private
the
only
way
you're
gonna
get
production
that
pays
is
in
the
private
sector.
Production
in
the
public
sector
isn't
paying
taxes.
J
C
Going
what
so,
also
just
as
a
reference
Aroostook,
County
or
actually
our
region
is
comprised
of
oliver
rustic
parts,
Penobscot
tous
catalyst,
Washington
Somerset
counties
it
services
over
75,000
people
throughout
this
region.
We
have
approximately
240
EMS
providers
for
these
people
for
75,000
people
out
of
those
pair
of
people
providers
roughly
85
are
paramedics
and
16
of
those
paramedics
reside
at
Kara,
fire
and
I
understand
it's
a
fire
and
ambulance
service.
C
It's
one
of
three
in
the
region,
Holt
in
Presque
Isle
care
will
assume
to
be
fourth
Fairfield,
but
they
are
fully
staffed
and
licensed
at
the
paramedic
level,
all
their
providers
they've
all
pretty
much
gone
to
NMCC,
I
think
for
training,
which
equates
to
about
anywhere
between
16
and
24
thousand
dollars
private
case
and
they
paid
for
to
do
their
jobs
right
to
be
able
to
start
out
at
14
or
15
dollars.
Now,
whatever
they
start
out.
As
so,
it's
a
huge
dedication
on
these
individuals
apart
private
versus
public.
That's
a
matter
of
opinion.
C
As
I
mentioned,
you
can't
go
to
your
local
hospital
and
create
the
education.
Caribou
is
unique
because
the
municipality
still
owns
Carey
Medical
Center.
So
either
way,
you'd
still
have
a
payer
mix
of
that
right.
The
townspeople
will
share
that
and
I've
spoken
before
about
this
and
I'll
speak
to
it
again
that
Kara
fire
is
out
of
all
12
services
in
this
region.
The
most
it's
advanced
for
staff.
You
know
they
have
staff
to
come
in
they're
dedicated
they're
qualified
budgets
will
always
go
up.
C
Minimum
wage
is
now
$12
an
hour
I'm
starting
first-year
EMTs
at
$12.
Now,
that's
no
incentive
for
me
to
keep
EMTs
at
my
service.
When
I
can
they
can
go
to
Domino's
and
start
at
$18
an
hour
full
benefits
to
be
a
delivery
driver.
You
know
we
have
no
incentivization
for
these
people
and
if
we
don't
help
support
our
our
crews
and
our
public
safety
personnel,
fire
law
enforcement
EMS
we're
in
a
national
shortage.
We
need
to
support
people
and
I
get
budgets.
C
I
understand
the
business
of
Medicine,
but
we
also
cannot
toy
with
the
practice
of
medicine.
Right,
as
mr.
Quinlan
said,
she
was
our
spotlight
service
for
our
region,
highlighted
throughout
the
state
because
of
caribou
fires
efforts
and
we
have
good
calls
and
we
had
bad
right,
but
there
was
a
bill
introduced
to
say
that
every
public
service
member,
a
member
of
law
enforcement,
Fire
EMS,
will
have
Public
Safety
by
the
end
of
the
career.
It
was
defeated,
but
it
is
true
because
I
also
let
our
debriefing
team
and
I'm
still
a
critical
member
of
that.
C
We
see
things.
No
one
else
wants
to
see
and
we
do
things.
No
one
else
wants
to
do.
We
deal
with
the
critically
ill
and
injured
population.
Every
day,
I
myself
ran
the
ambulance
on
Friday
in
Van,
Buren
I
started
at
9:30
in
the
morning
and
I
didn't
stop
till
3:30
the
next
morning
dealing
with
people
were
seizures
and
having
stroke
like
symptoms,
heart
attacks,
diabetic
ketoacidosis
or
there
unconscious,
and
we
are
unique
and
we
have
30
minute
travel
time
either
hospital
in
Van
Buren.
C
You
have
your
own
hospital
in
your
community
within
10
minutes,
right,
I,
think
that's
marvelous
and
an
amazing
amazing
for
your
citizens
and
then
inter-facility
transports
getting
these
people
to
the
definitive
care,
their
tertiary
care,
centers
like
eastern
Maine
or
Maine,
med
or
even
Boston.
You
know
where
we
don't
have
those
resources
available.
It's
these
individuals
that
go
move.
C
Education
and
training
I
work
with
their
training
officer
all
the
time
to
keep
our
continued
education
going
and
I
I.
Just
I
put
a
word
out
there
to
say
that
if
you
need
me
at
any
time,
please
never
hesitate
to
call
and
I
understand
budgets,
but
I
also
understand
the
biggest
thing
you're
paying
for
is
personnel,
and
we
should
have
some
reprieve
in
repayment
where
they
just
passed.
C
I
Just
want
to
highlight
this
is
the
visit
of
the
year-end
statement
for
the
city.
These
are
unaudited
numbers,
so
I
can't
say
this
is
definitively
where
we're
sitting
at
the
end
of
2019.
But
I
do
want
to
highlight
that,
based
on
discussions
that
the
council
had
in
appropriating
final
expenses,
basically
trying
to
capture
all
the
expenses
that
we
could
last
year
into
Reserve
account
and
we've
done
that,
and
it
basically
shows
that
our
year-end
expenses-
and
this
was
on
page
35
of
your
packet.
I
You'll
see
that
revenues
came
in
at
about
230,000
dollars
over
anticipated
revenues
for
the
year
so
overall
in
2019,
even
with
the
the
cutting
of
the
budget
that
we
did
back
in
July
of
2019
to
make
sure
the
luteal
rate
was
lower
and
department,
heads
took
it
upon
themselves
to
be
even
tighter
than
that,
and
so
we
had
a
good
year
as
far
as
the
expenses
and
definitely
better
year.
As
far
as
the
revenues
are
concerned,
and
so
that's
overall
2019
closed
out
good.
B
I
B
There
any
reason
why
we
don't
move
that
money
someplace
else
like
I,
don't
know
it's
recreation
or
something
maybe
the
recreation
or
the
events
Thursdays
on
Sweden
or
something
like
that.
Is
there
any
reason
why
that
stays
in
there
is
that
private
money
from
the
band
members
see
I,
know
I,
remember
when
we
had
it,
but
it's
been
forever
so.
I
K
A
Dennis
last
meeting
it
was
item
number
7f
said
that
expenses
were
two
hundred
two
thousand
two
sixty
three
less
than
anticipated,
but
on
this
sheet
says
we're
at
a
hundred
percent.
Yes,.
A
A
I
Librarian
is
homie
ole
tonight
and
that's
this
she'd
be
excused,
but
she
has
visited
with
Miss,
Theriot
and
she's
expressed
interest
on
being
on
the
library
board
and
I
hope
has
no
concerns
with
with
working
with
her
and
has
asked
that
we
respects
mr.
Torrio's
request
and
and
put
her
on
the
library
board.
A
B
A
A
I
We
tax
acquired
this
property
this
year
and,
as
with
all
the
properties
that
are
tax
acquired,
the
previous
owners
have
until
January
31st
to
a
all
the
past
funds
and
reclaim
their
property,
and
we
received
a
payment
of
$1700
cash
toward
the
reclamation
of
this
property.
Current
outstanding
balance,
including
interest
and
late
fees,
is
18
or
1830
dollars
in
8
cents
as
of
last
week
as
of
January
31st,
and
so
the
request
has
been
made.
If
the
council
would
entertain
it
to
accept
the
$1,700
payment
as.
K
I
Payment
in
full
on
the
account
essentially
waiving
the
hundred
and
thirty-five
dollars
of
interest
and
other
charges
that
would
be
remaining
on
the
account.
If
the
council
agrees
to
that,
we
would
we
could
go
forward
and
quit
claim
the
property
back
to
the
previous
owner
and
keep
it
on
the
on
the
property
tax
rolls.
A
I
Councilors,
this
was
a
piece
of
property
that
we
tax
acquired
a
couple
of
years
back
yeah.
It's
been
on
the
available
properties
list
through
a
couple
of
rounds
and
we're
getting
ready
to
put
a
third
round
out
with
this
particular
property.
It's
seven
hundredths
of
an
acre
which
is
and
down
close
or
across
the
street,
from
sleepers
close
to
the
Holy
Rosary
cemetery.
I
On
that
one,
the
current
taxes
on
the
books
are
roughly
a
hundred
and
sixty
six
dollars,
and
we
have
two
years
of
taxes
that
were
not
assessed:
2018
and
19,
because
the
city
owned
it
and
when
we've
put
this
property
out
to
bid
in
the
past,
we've
requested
a
minimum
bid
of
$500.
In
order
to
recoup
the
taxes
on
the
books
plus
taxes
that
we
would
have
assessed
had
have
been
in
private
hands.
I
A
I
As
we've
discussed
with
the
council
previously,
this
was
another
property
that
was
tax
acquired
last
year
and
includes
the
steam
power
generation
plant
and
the
tea
soul.
Diesel
power
generation
plant.
The
council
previously
authorized
the
city
to
the
staff
to
put
it
out
for
bid
with
a
minimum
bid
of
150
thousand
dollars
in
the
hopes
to
be
able
to
recoup
all
the
taxes
that
are
owed
on
the
city's
behalf,
as
well
as
be
able
to
generate
some
funds
to
offset
expenses
that
si
UD
is
recognizing.
I
The
agreement
that
we
have
with
the
si
UD
does
indicate
that
when
we
sell
these
properties,
we
will
try
to
recoup
costs
on
both
sides.
When
we
put
this
out
to
bid
150
thousand
dollars,
we
did
not
receive
any
interest.
We
were
contacted
by
a
couple
of
parties,
though
that
said,
if
it
would
have
been
closer
to
$100,000,
they
would
have
taken
a
very
serious
look
at
it.
K
I
K
K
N
I
N
I
This
time
we've
terminated,
we've
winterized
everything.
The
propane
has
been
cut
off
as
well
and
even
have
discussions
with
the
power
companies
on
this.
They
will
continue
to
pay
for
the
power.
That's
in
the
buildings
until
it's
it's
told,
to
sold
to
somebody
else.
So
there
there
shouldn't
be
any
additional
utility
costs.
M
L
N
L
A
I
I
I
The
the
information
that's
in
the
packet
we
had
councillor
Morrell
and
gone
had
not
turned
in
their
scores.
Just
before
this
meeting
I
did
get
response
back
from
council
morale,
I'm
still
waiting
for
counselor
gonz
for
their
priorities.
For
this
I've
I
have
input
councillor
morels
response
into
into
the
spreadsheet
and
I'll
show
that
so
it's.
I
Trying
to
get
that
zoomed
in
a
little
bit
closer.
So
as
far
as
public
safety
priorities
are
concerned,
we
were
looking
at
the
trying
to
get
fgo
services
at
the
airport,
the
well
I'm
sorry
I
need
to
get
up
to
the
top
for
public
safety.
We
had.
We
were
looking
at
what
we
could
do
with
the
opioid
and
drug
enforcement
issues.
The
discussion
are
dealing
with
structural
upgrades
at
the
fire
station
and
also
looking
at
the
ambulatory
service
contracts.
I
The
top
two
projects,
as
far
as
a
focus
right
now,
with
councilor
guns
numbers
not
included,
would
be
trying
to
focus
on
the
opioid
and
drug
enforcement
and
getting
the
fire
station
structural
upgrades
taking
care
of
this
year.
That
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
we
would
stop
work
on
the
other
ones,
but
those
are
our
two
that
we
definitely
want
to
focus
on
this
year.
The
other
element
there
that
was
on
the
list
was
looking
at
the
police
station
design
and
impossible
referendum
in
November.
I
As
far
as
infrastructure
work
goes,
we
were
looking
at
currently
the
the
top
five
projects
from
the
scoring
so
far
is
looking
at
our
sidewalk
and
pedestrian
safety
around
the
community
would
be
number
one
right
now.
Also
look
I'm,
sorry,
that's
not
number
one
number
one
would
be
looking
at
facility.
Maintenance
audits
and
plans
for
each
of
the
city's
facilities.
Number
two
would
be
the
sidewalks
and
pedestrian
safety.
I
Three
looking
at
the
dark
spots
along
the
roads
and
looking
at
new
streetlight
locations
and
where
possible,
then
we
have
looking
at
our
capital
equipment
plans
and
then
also
trying
to
address
60
access
highway
and
hopefully
getting
that
sold
this
year.
Some
of
the
other
elements
from
infrastructure
that
we
have
on
the
list
include
airport
development,
north
main
reconstruction,
and
we
have
received
contracts
from
d-o-t
on
that
to
move
forward
with
that
project.
So
that's
that
will
just
be
moving
forward.
I
The
overlay
of
highways
in
the
urban
compact
zones,
City,
Hall,
accessibility
issues,
gateway
enhancements.
The
public
parking
lot
resurfacing
and
also
a
storm
drain
system
inventory
again
a
long
list
of
items
that
we'll
try
to
be
tackling
but
again
being
able
to
focus
in
on
some
of
the
higher
priority
ones,
make
sure
we
get
those
ones
done
from
leisure
services
side
we
have
and
I
just
for
clarification.
Customer
Lu
didn't
have
anything
marked
on
this
one.
Was
that
your
intent,
or
did
you.
L
I
So
from
leisure
services
side,
one
of
the
top
priority
right
now
is
to
get
the
D
part
construction
completed,
and
there
were
some
counselors
that
had
written
in
splashpad
as
an
other,
but
that
is
part
of
those
teak
part
construction
elements
and
so
I
didn't
double
count.
Those
we
have
work
on
the
Collin
Pond
Dam
and
the
trail
system
Thursdays
on
Sweden
and
continuing
to
work
with
that
one.
I
There
was
also
looking
at
the
library,
Business,
Resource
Center
and
trying
to
build
that
up
and
make
information
and
more
available
to
businesses
and
the
public
Gateway
enhancements
would
be
the
the
first
one
out
of
the
top
five.
Also
looking
at
the
Nylander
inventory
and
operations,
other
three
things
that
we
looked
at
on
that
library
programs,
the
main
2000
or
main
200
storytelling
festival,
which
we
received
a
grant
from
the
state
to
just
kick
that
off
this
year
and
Christina.
Can.
Let
me
tell
us
more
about
that
later
tonight.
I
We
have
from
the
admin
side
the
the
highest
priority.
Right
now
is
union
contract
negotiations.
We
have
right
now
we
have
one-year
contracts
with
the
sergeant's
and
the
fire
department,
the
fire
EMS
department.
Sorry,
we
have
an
outstanding
contract
negotiation
to
finalize
with
the
police
officers
union,
as
well
as
the
Public,
Works
Union,
and
so
those
out
right
now
is
the
top
on
the
admin
list.
As
far
as
these
projects
go,
we
also
have
revisiting
our
health
insurance.
I
We've
also
been
talking
about
needing
to
look
at
our
quarterly
tax
assessing
implementation
process,
which
our
tax
assessor
has
been
very
active
this
year
and
making
some
changes
that
way
and
implementing
some
things,
and
we
can
bring
that
back.
For
a
report
another
time,
the
another
one
that's
close
to
the
top
right
now
is
to
look
at
the
2.2
million
net
increase
in
three
different
departments
over
the
past
few
years,
which
has
already
been
mentioned
tonight.
They
and
then,
of
course,
looking
at
succession
planning
within
the
department's
overall
for
economic
development
right
now.
I
Looking
at
possible
land
bank
creation,
how
do
we
better
utilize
vacant
properties
or
properties
that
the
city
is
acquired
through
tax
processes
and
leverage,
those
for
additional
development
in
the
town?
It's
kind
of
part
of
that
is
also
the
blight
removal
and
looking
at
some
of
the
properties
that
we
have
around
town
and
tools
that
we
have
to
to
help
clean
up
the
community.
I
The
fourth
and
fifth
options
or
highest
priorities,
are
looking
at
the
facade
improvement
grants.
That's
a
tax
increment
finance
program
that
we
have
and
trying
to
I
guess
market
that
make
that
more
easily
available
to
community.
To
businesses
and
helping
them,
and
also
working
with
the
Cariboo
economic
growth
Council
and
some
of
their
their
business
plans
and
efforts
to
grow
the
community.
I
I
K
N
A
M
A
Gonna
propose
that
these
this
goes
back
out
and
weary
score
this
because
well
it
was
a
lovely
speech
and
the
citizens
cared,
we
know,
will
work
on
these
numbers
aren't
representative
of
what
the
council
wants
to
do.
They
are
they're,
not
close
Dennis,
not
even
close,
because
it's
opposite
of
what
you
have
seen.
I
I
I
A
Me
walk
you
through
this
real
quick
infrastructure,
other
streetlights
in
dark
areas,
just
my
understanding
that
concert
area
had
a
four
councillor.
Cody
had
a
four
council
cap
at
rakat,
a
five
I
had
a
three
of
course:
I
had
threes
all
through
it,
but
but
you've
got
it
up
here
at
the
top
priority.
But
the
way
we
just
explained
it,
it
would
be
the
lower
priority
and
in
fact
your
lower
number
would
be
a
higher
priority
than
your
higher
number.
Well.
I
A
M
A
I
O
So
the
dilemma
in
that
is
that
what
this
department
has
characterized
as
an
operational
efficiency
is
viewed
by
others
as
a
credit
for
some,
but
not
all
businesses-
and
this
is
this-
is
something
that
has
been
in
place
for
quite
a
while,
and
it's
been
$1,000
because
it
is
mentioned
in
statute,
although
it
does
say
if
you
read
it,
that
it's
not
for
that,
the
thousand
dollars
doesn't
count.
If
it's
something
that's
used
in
business,
why
not
bill?
There's?
O
There
is
a
provision
in
statute
that
if
we
have
minimum
accounts
that
are
billed,
then
the
treasurer
can
act
on
the
the
city.
Council
could
vote
to
forgive
those
bills
and
the
treasurer
would
not
have
to
collect
the
tax.
Collector
would
not
have
to
collect
those
and
there's
not
a
similar
statute
for
a
real
property.
It's
something!
That's
just
for
personal
property.
Main
revenue
service
has
said
that
other
towns
do
that
they
have
a
minimum
amount
for
collecting
for
creating
an
account.
Sometimes
it's
$500,
sometimes
it's
$1,000
and
they
find
that
to
be
acceptable.
O
I
did
contact
Holton
in
Presque,
Isle
Presque
Isle
sends
out
a
tax
bill
for
everything.
Even
if
it's
$100
a
value
Holton
is
similar
to
caribou
that
they
do
not
create
new
accounts
for
less
than
a
thousand
dollars.
So
main
revenue
does
say,
that's
acceptable.
We
do
have
accounts
that
we
send
out
that
are
less
than
a
thousand
dollars,
because
over
time,
when
the
account
was
created,
it
was
over
a
thousand
but
through
depreciation,
getting
rid
of
assets.
O
Things
going
from
taxable
valuation
to
Betty,
because
there
have
been
changes
to
the
business
equipment
tax
exemption
program.
So
more
businesses
can
qualify
for
that.
So
some
things
that
had
been
taxable
in
the
past
are
now
exempt,
so
those
accounts
would
be
less
than
a
thousand
dollars
and
for
discussion
purposes.
I
did
put
a
quote
in
here
from
the
July
2014
legal
notes:
entry
in
the
Maine
townsman,
neither
a
municipal
legislative
body,
town
meeting
or
town
or
city
council,
nor
Venis
Assessors-
may
opt
out
of
assessing
any
personal
property,
otherwise
taxable
under
state
law.
O
Such
decision
would
be
ultra
veers
beyond
their
legal
authority.
If
it
were
made
by
a
legislative
body,
it
would
have
no
binding
effect
on
Assessors,
who
are
public
officials
bound
by
state
law
if
made
by
the
Assessors
themselves.
It
would
be
a
breach
of
their
oath
to
enforce
the
law.
For
that
reason,
the
Maine
Constitution
expressly
reserves
to
the
legislature
alone,
the
power
of
taxation.
Thus,
there
is
no
municipal
homeworld
to
exempt
any
kind
or
amount
of
personal
property
that
is
taxable
under
state
law.
O
So
in
conclusion,
it
is
not
lawful
for
the
municipality
to
create
an
exemption
or
credit
for
any
amount
of
personal
property
that
is
otherwise
taxable
under
state
law.
If
fairness
is
a
concern,
the
solution
is
to
create
a
property.
Personal
property
account
for
all
businesses,
regardless
of
taxable
value.
O
Before
this
even
came
up,
I
had
started
a
major
overhaul
of
personal
property
anyway,
so
as
a
result
of
that
I've
identified
62
accounts
that
will
be
getting
notices
this
year
that
didn't
report
last
year.
Some
of
them
may
have
been
too
minimal
to
bill,
but
anyway
we're
sending
them
all
out
again
and.
O
We're
gonna
go
forward
with
that
process,
so
the
Department
will
continue
to
promote
all
lawful
exemption
and
reimbursement
programs.
Tax
payers
I
am
having
a
scheduled
event
at
the
caribou
Wellness
Center
on
Tuesday
March
17th
from
5:30
to
8,
for
taxpayers
to
come
in
and
receive
help
with
forms.
People
could
come
in
any
time
during
office
hours,
but
sometimes
in
the
business
community.
That's
not
possible
because
they're
working
at
the
same
time
that
we're
open.
O
L
That
wasn't
the
intent
of
my
question
two
months
ago
in
telling
my
question
was
to
make
it
business
friendly,
mm-hmm
not
to
and
I,
wouldn't
support
a
vote
to
tax
the
thousand
dollars
or
less.
So
if
it
come
to
the
table,
you
can
bet
that
I
will
not
vote
but
I'm
still
a
little
green
on
this,
because
I've
been
trying
to
research
this
through
the
state
myself
and
I'm
reading
different
things
that
are
telling
me
two
sides
of
the
story
here.
So
Home
Rule
comes
into
effect
somewhere,
not
sure
where
I'm
still
digging
at
it.
L
L
Was
told
by
a
Maine
senator
that
they
do
not
regulate
personal
property.
Now
that
and
$0.10
wouldn't
get
us
a
coffee
up
the
stands,
but
that's
what
I
was
told.
So
you
can
see
where
I'm
at
I'm
digging
trying
to
catch
find
out
what
the
intent
was
to
make
it.
You
know,
if
we're
going
to
give
it's
the
money,
isn't
the
issue,
it's
the
perception
that
has
the
value
and
the
businesses
that
were
scraping
and
crying
and
screaming
about
trying
to
keep
here.
O
And
that,
and
that's
very
true
with
anything
in
government
perception
is
the
reality
and
people
who
work
with
me
know:
I
say
that
a
lot
we
have
to
everything
that
we
do
needs
to
be
very
transparent
and
because
of
that,
the
perception
at
this
point
since
I've
come
up
here
to
say.
Yes,
this
is
an
acceptable
level
of
service,
but
it's
certainly
not
an
exceptional
level.
We're
not
treating
everyone
the
same
because
we're
not
creating
these
accounts
if
they're
less
than
a
thousand
dollars
of
value.
L
O
The
state
doesn't
in
the
memo
under
history,
title
36,
section
328
recognizes
the
freedom
invention
and
individual
means
of
the
municipality
by
which
said
standards
are
met.
So
the
standard
is
that
we
are
that
we
have
a
requirement
to
ascertain
the
amount
and
value
of
real
estate
and
personal
property
as
of
the
first
day
of
April,
so
the
state
doesn't
come
in
and
tell
us
how
we're
going
to
do
everything.
What
is
our
the
complete
methodology
for
picking
up
things
for
valuing
things?
They're,
not
regulating
all
of
it?
O
They
do
four
things
that
they're
getting
exemption
reimbursement
because
of
that
amount
of
reimbursement
that
comes
back
to
the
city
because
of
exempt
items
that
stuff
they
do
keep
a
very
tight
handle
on.
However,
I
go
to
a
lot
of
training
every
year
on
okay,
so
what
do
they
have
different
in
four
practices?
What
do
they
want
to
see?
I
mean
I.
Have
my
audit
this
week
from
main
revenue
coming
up
for
them
to
come
in
and
say:
okay?
Well,
we
like
what
you're
doing
here.
We
think
you
need
improvement
here.
O
O
But
I
think
that
if
you
ask
more
questions
to
this
state,
senator
about
are
the
municipalities
required
to
collect
personal
property
you're
going
to
find
that
they
are
and
we
have
to
go
out
and
try
to
ascertain
the
best
way
that
we
can.
What
is
the
nature,
the
situation
and
the
value
of
whatever
that
property
is
on
April
1st,
so.
L
O
Is
my
understanding
from
what
I
quoted
and
from
the
main
townsman,
and
also
every
training
that
I
go
through?
Because
taxation
comes
from
the
legislature,
they
that
that
is
in
their
purview,
not
ours.
We
are
supposed
to
go
out
and
find
whatever
we
have
for
taxable,
because,
as
we
know,
this
affects
our
state
valuation.
State
valuation
affects
our
state
aid
to
education.
It's
used
to
figure
our
property
fiscal
capacity.
For
that
it
affects
what
we
pay
for
our
County
tax
bill.
O
I
Again,
Penny's
job
as
the
City
Assessor,
it's
very
clear.
She
has
to
find
everything
that
she
can
and
instead
of
value
to
it,
the
legislature
they're
the
ones
that
are
saying
these
are
the
programs
that,
by
which
you
can
exempt
things
and
the
indication
is
that
only
the
legislature
can
say
these
are
the
exemptions
that
are
available.
The
thousand
dollar
issue
we're
dealing
with
here
is
is
more
the
administrative
aspect
of.
Is
it
worth
it
to
us?
I
Yes,
we
want
you
to
continue
implementing
that,
but
if
the
council
wanted
to
say-
or
if
we
drew
up
a
policy
for
the
council
to
consider
in
which
we
said,
if
it's
a
bill,
that's
going
to
be
less
than
twenty
four
dollars
or
the
mill
rate
you
know
one
thousand
dollars,
then
don't
worry
about
sending
out
a
tax
bill.
That's
that's
an
administrative
efficiency
element
to
it
that
what
we're
hearing
from
the
state
is
they're
not
necessarily
going
to
slap
our
hands.
I
L
I
know
you're
doing
your
job
you're
doing
a
damn
good
job.
It's
our
job
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
have
to
reach
out
squeeze
everybody
for
dog
permits,
personal
property.
You
go
down
this
list
that
we're
you
know
we're
just
squeezing
and
squeezing
people
to
death
out
here
that
are
paying.
You
know
myself
nearly
four
thousand
dollars
in
taxes.
I
just
think
it's
ridiculous,
and
this
was
one
step
I
thought
to
explore
just
to
set
a
precedence
that
we're
gonna
be
we're
gonna
be
equal
here,
we're
gonna,
we're
gonna,
give
it
we're.
L
Gonna
appear
more
than
that
blue
sign
out
there,
that
screwed
to
the
sign
that
says
business
friendly,
because
we're
not
business
friendly
I
think
we
all
know
that
if
we
were
business
friendly,
we'd
be
in
better
shape
than
we
are.
So
you
get
what
I'm
saying
I
understand
you
good
a
job
to
do.
I
appreciate
it
you're
doing
a
great
job.
That's
where
I'm
at
see.
O
O
A
M
K
I
H
I
Okay,
so
as
we
look
yet,
the
question
was
just
looking
at
the
transfer
operations
within
the
unis
departments,
trying
to
give
a
little
more
understanding
as
to
how
that
works.
It's
some
of
the
relationships
there
and
so
in
looking
at
this.
Obviously,
there's
costs
associated
with
it.
There's
revenues
associated
with
it
from
a
cost
standpoint
and
I'll
get
into
these
in
more
detail.
We
have
the
responding
personnel.
Whenever
you
have
a
transfer.
I
One
call
right
now,
the
way
the
organization
the
department
is
means
that
we
have
a
regular
time
employee
that
goes
out
and
we
have
a
overtime
employee
gets
called
in,
and
that's
just
for
that
for
the
first
call
out
the
door,
we
have
obviously
a
vehicle
costs,
the
more
miles
you
put
on
the
vehicle,
the
more
cost
you
have
so
very
simply
the
longer
the
run,
the
more
cost
you
have
incurred
related
to
the
into
the
vehicles.
Of
course,
the
facilities
cost
ambulance
bill
and
cost
from
the
revenue
side.
I
It
depends
on
the
call
type
that
they're
responding
to
depends
on
the
payer
mix
the
speed
of
travel
by
which
the
our
personnel
are
responding
and
also
the
distances
again
and
we'll
get
into
these
a
little
more
detail
here,
so
just
to
illustrate
some
more
on
the
personnel
side.
So
right
now
we
maintain
four
members:
four
crew
members
in
the
house
at
all
times,
which
provides
coverage
for
an
ambulance
and
the
fire
truck
in
town.
If
needed,
we
have
five
person
shifts
when
the
first
call
comes
out.
I
So
in
this
the
the
bar
that
you're
looking
at
there
is
representing.
If
there's
no
calls
there's
nothing
going
on,
we
have.
We
have
staffing
costs
that
we
are
incurring.
The
first
call
that
comes
in.
We
see
almost
immediately
how
dollar
increase
in
our
staffing
cost
because
of
that
overtime,
and
that
goes
up
with
each
call
to
where,
when
we
have
three
calls
out
doesn't
happen,
I
guess
very
frequently,
but
it
does
happen.
We
would
have
six
crew
members
out
in
the
field
plus
four
in
the
house
and
five
of
those
employees.
I
Five
of
those
10
employees
are
getting
paid
overtime,
so
I
know
this
was
alluded
to
earlier.
Some
of
the
concerns
about
overtime
costs
in
the
department
and
again
based
on
the
staffing
that
we
have
that
overtime
kicks
in
with
at
least
one
employee.
When
we
have
our
first
call
when
you
look
at
the
vehicle
costs,
went
through
the
process
of
looking
at
the
cost
that
we
have
with
each
of
our
vehicles,
the
MU
fuel
economy's
that
we
have
replacement
of
the
vehicles,
the
selves,
the
boxes
that
we
have
on
them.
I
This
is
not
one-way
cost.
This
is
two-way
costs,
Bangor
sits
right
around
the
middle,
and
then
you
have
the
local
communities,
Tanic
nursing
homes,
other
transfers.
That
might
happen
again.
We
have
shorter
distances,
so
obviously
shorter
vehicle
costs
associated
with
those
types
of
transfers,
total
costs.
When
you
look
at
between
the
staffing
and
the
vehicle
costs
associated
with
transfers
and
again
I
know,
these
lines
are
a
bit
more
difficult
to
see.
I
Your
costs
are
between
those
two,
maybe
less
than
$250
for
that
run,
but
it
also
depends
on
how
much
time
you're
there,
on
the
run,
when
you
look
at
going
down
to
Portland
you're,
now
up
closer
to
$2,500
per
run
again
there
and
back
with
those
with
those
transfers,
and
then,
of
course,
you
have
those
which
are
in
between
and
these
costs
are
relative
again
to
what
well
I
should
say.
The
revenue
aspect
that
offsets
these
lines
is
we'll
get
into
that
just
a
minute.
I
Interestingly
enough,
as
we
look
at
the
the
costs
and
we
look
at
the
cost
per
mile
to
run
the
transfer
services,
one
of
the
things
that
you'll
see
here,
this
dark
blue
line.
That
would
be
our
local
calls.
Our
costs
are
on
a
local
call.
Right
out
of
the
gate
is
over
25
dollars
per
mile
initially,
and
it
ramps
down
significantly
or
quickly,
and
part
of
that
is
because
we
have,
in
our
union
contract
right
now,
a
responsibility
that,
when
we
call
somebody
in
they're
instantly
in
Tyler
the
two
hours
of
overtime
cost.
I
So
as
soon
as
they
come
into
the
house,
they've
answered
that
the
phone
they're
in
they're
inside
of
the
two
hours
of
overtime
and
on
a
local
call.
That
means
that
we've
front-loaded
a
lot
of
cost
into
that
call,
and
it's
not
until
we
go
beyond
that
two
hour
period
that
we
start
to
see
a
true
a
representation
of
of
costs
associated
with
each
of
those
runs.
You
know
you
have.
The
local
runs
this
in
the
charts
you're
looking
at
it
average
25
miles
an
hour,
so
those
are
a
little
bit
further
out.
I
Maybe
a
15
mile
drive
and
again
the
the
Bangor
of
line.
Is
there
Midway
our
cost
per
hour
as
a
trans
outward
is
close
to
$5
per
mile
on
the
on
the
spend
side?
Portland
stays
in
Augusta
are
about
the
same
in
those
costs,
but
definitely
those
shorter
runs
because
of
that
contractual
obligation
that
we
have
there's
a
lot
of
costs.
I
Upfront
in
in
those
runs
from
the
reimbursement
side,
as
we
look
at
the
the
different
rates,
if
it's
a
patient
that
has
Medicare
we're
able
to
charge
$11
and
62
cents
for
each
mile
from
0
to
17
miles.
After
that,
we
can
charge
seven
dollars
and
63
cents
per
mile
for
a
patient
that
has
the
state
insurance
remain
care.
They
have
a
flat
rate
of
seven
dollars
and
66
cents
per
mile.
I
I
This
again
is
because
the
the
federal
and
the
state
programs
they
basically
dictate
this-
is
how
much
you
can
charge
us
and
we
rollin
in
a
compensates
you,
eighty
percent,
of
how
much
we're
telling
you
you
we
can.
You
can
charge
us
some
of
those
calls.
A
basic
level
service
that
is
an
emergency
is
quite
a
bit
higher
in
the
billing
documents
that
I
received.
We
have
what's
called
an
ls1
advanced
level
of
service
emergency,
there's
advanced
level
services,
three!
Is
it
two
and
three
okay,
and
that
one?
I
I
Now.
Some
of
these,
obviously,
as
I
pointed
out
in
the
last
slide
for
a
private
care
insurance,
we
can
build
them
more
and
get
reimbursed
more.
So,
even
though,
on
a
local
transport,
our
average
cost
might
be
around
200
$250.
We
can
build
those
private
insurers
closer
to
$500
and
be
able
to
get
that
additional
revenue.
D
I
I
I
I
I
We
have
elements
again:
we
we
are
able
to
build
a
patient
for
the
service,
though
that
is
being
rendered
up
until
we
drop
the
patient
off,
but
we
also
have
a
longer
time
in
the
vehicles
transporting
our
own
crews
back
to
the
house,
and
so
you
see
it
does
start
to
creep
up
and
get
closer
to
just
barely
covering
expenses.
If,
if
we're
dealing
with
a
state
of
Maine
patient
and
a
basic
level
of
service,
non-emergency.
K
I
The
on
the
long
distance
runs.
This
really
is
where
it
gets
to
that
element
of
our
costs
and
our
reimbursements
relative
to
the
miles
that
we're
traveling.
Obviously,
if
you,
if
you're
traveling,
faster
per
mile,
you
can
generate
more
revenue
per
mile
or
in
that
same
short
period
of
time,
we
would
have,
for
instance,
a
trip
to
Bangor.
Our
cost
again
would
be
close
to
$2,500
if
it
was
a
private
care
patient
based
on
the
reimbursement
rates.
I
We
could
be
billing
almost
$5,000
for
that
one
patient
and
that's
when
you
look
at
the
time
that
we
would
be
dropping
the
patient
off
relative
to
our
billable
period.
So
we
could
bill
up
till
we
drop
the
patient
off
$5,000.
You
may
only
be
incurring
a
cost
of
1300
1400
dollars,
but
be
able
to
recoup
that
difference
on
the
private
patient,
the
same
you're.
I
Looking
at
that
gap
there
between
costs
and
revenues
and
ideally
what
we,
what
we
try
to
do
is
we
drop
the
patient
off
down
in
in
Portland
if
we're
down
there
and
try
to
get
somebody
in
the
cab
to
come
back
so
that
we're
able
to
extend
these
lines
again
rather
than
having
that
flatline
service
coming
back
to
Caribou.
So.
D
L
D
That's
what
I
was
thinking
I,
don't
want
to
use
that
word.
Please
don't
use
it.
It's
easier
to
get
one
out
of
using
the
transfer
service
into
Bangor
one
they
don't
like
coming
up
here
at
night
and
if
we're
already
down
there,
it's
easier
for
them
to
turn
one
over
to
us
to
bring
back
up
to
holton
or
Presque,
Isle
or
or
somewhere
and
be
somewhere
in
between
as
long
as
we
can
get
ahold
of
them.
First,
they
don't
reach
out
to
us,
but
if
we
reach
out
to
them
they
will.
D
L
L
K
I
I
From
the
hospital
saying,
we
got
a
patient
that
needs
to
go
down,
there's
no,
it's
not
a
critical
hair
issue,
rather
than
calling
in
personnel
to
take
off
at
7
o'clock
at
night
down
to
Bangor
and
then
you're
dealing
with
the
you
know
the
liabilities
of
people
being
on
the
road
at
night
wildlife,
snow,
storms,
whatever.
If
we
can
limit
some
of
those
non-emergency
transfers
the
daytime
hours
that
that
could
help.
With
that
liability
aspect,
we
anticipate
it
would
also
improve
morale
and
the
staff.
And
but
there
would
have
to
be
some
some
changes.
I
I
Some
of
these
changes
in
looking
at
overall
total
costs,
we
may
be
able
to
revisit
some
of
the
contractual
costs
outside
communities
after
a
trial
period
of
time.
Obviously,
we
would
need
some
time
to
get
some
of
these
things
implemented
and
be
able
to
see
and
understand
what
those
changes
are
resulting
in,
but
definitely
it
would
give
us
opportunity
to
revisit
things
in
the
future
with
other
communities.
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
The
last
is
for
just
the
transfers
and
only
going
back
to
2008
what
was
the
payer
mix
and
quantity
only
not
dollars.
For
example,
in
2013
there
were
two
thousand
nine
transfers.
How
many
were
privately
insured?
How
many
had
federal
Medicaid
Medicare?
How
many
had
state
or
main
care
insurance?
Many
were
not
insured?
A
I
D
Thank,
You
chief,
so
this
is
the
pace
sheet.
This
is
what
we
go
off
and
this
is
my
predictor
I
use
and
basically
there's
12
months
worth
of
calls
a
picture
of
12
months
prior
months
to
kind
of
get
an
idea
for
next
year.
So
all
of
these
are
the
codes,
or
these
few
are
the
codes
that
we
can
use.
There
was
only
a
couple
used
in
the
presentation,
so
the
charges
that
we
charge
are
the
Medicare
max
allowable
rates.
D
Those
are
the
charges
that
we
charge
or
because
our
biggest
payer
mix
is
Medicare
and
it
always
has
been
in
Caribou.
So
that's
80%
of
what
they
tell
you.
You
can
charge
so
on
the
hundred
dollars.
They
would
say
we'll
give
you
a
hundred
dollars.
So
if
we
charged
you
a
thousand
dollars,
they're
gonna
get
look
at
and
say
well,
we'll
give
you
a
hundred
dollars,
but
we're
gonna
pay.
You
$80
main
care
was
paying
$40
up
until
January
1st
of
this
year.
Private.
A
According
to
LD
1028
subsection,
3
1/4
JJ,
the
department
shall
reimburse
for
ambulance
service
under
main
care
at
a
level
that
is
not
less
than
the
average
allowable
reimbursement
rate
under
Medicare
for
such
services
or
at
the
highest
percent
of
that
level.
That
is
possible
within
resources
appropriated
for
those
purposes,
beginning
March,
1st
2015.
D
D
I
Get
some
backup
so
when
the
legislation
says
the
average
of
the
reimbursement
right,
the
legislation
did
not
specify
how
that
average
was
to
be
calculated
and
who
was
to
say
that
was
the
average.
So
when
the
the
state
personnel
looked
at
the
averages
for
the
state,
they
said
for
Aroostook
County,
the
average
reimbursable
rate
that
everybody
up
here
should
be
going
by
is
the
Bangor
urban
rate,
which.
G
A
Guys
this
look,
let's
face
it.
This
is
a
very
hot
topic.
People
are
nationwide,
exactly
no
seriously
a
lotta
same
thing
down
Arizona
same
thing:
it's
nationwide,
it's
not
just
us,
it
is
not
just
us
quote
me
there
Chris,
it's
not
just
us,
so
I
want
to
make
very
clear
that
we
stopped
using
this
roughly
and
we
get
a
hurry
to
the
T,
because
it's.
I
G
I
State
that
to
22.8
is
71
percent.
On
that
particular
line
you
go
down
the
next
line.
The
state
is
65
percent.
The
next
line
down
the
state
reimburse
is
72%
and
72
percent.
The
mileage
reimbursement
rate
at
the
state
level
is
54
percent
so
because
this
can
be
such
a
complex
issue
and
everything
when
we
say
roughly
60
percent
we're
trying
to
shorten
meetings
honestly,
but
we
can
get
you
more
firm
numbers
and
have
all
those
things.
I
K
A
D
D
D
They
take
a
hit
and
contractual
on
some
of
those,
but
there's
more
federal
payers,
the
borders
in
calais,
so
their
payer
mix
is
higher
on
private.
So
when
you
look
at
our
revenue
sheets,
the
contractual
allowance
that
would
end
up
being
higher,
but
our
revenues
would
would
be-
would
be
more
if
we
had
that
bigger
private
and
shore
up
our
mix.
But
we
don't
80%
of
our
payer
mix
is
main
care
Medicare.
It's
it's
always
been
about.
The
same
Medicare
hasn't
increased
their
rates
in
seven
years.
They
went
negative
in
2013,
so
by
a
percent.
D
A
N
D
G
D
K
L
We're
talking
in
terms
of
payment,
we're
gonna
live
by
what
they
pay.
We
have
no
choice:
we're
not
gonna
break
their
arm
to
pay
us
any
more
so
shouldn't
we,
wouldn't
it
be
smart
business
sense
to
take
a
look
at
if
the
revenues
were
gonna
collect
are
down.
How
are
we
going
to
adjust
our
house?
What
can
we
do
within
that
house?
L
You
know
whether
it's
vehicle,
downsizing,
I,
don't
know
I'm,
just
throwing
out
ideas,
spaghetti
at
the
wall
in
private
business.
It's
the
first
thing.
It
has
to
happen
when
your
revenues
are
dropping.
You
can't
keep
status
quo.
You'll
be
out
of
business.
I
realize
that
at
some
point,
ambulance
is
going
to
be
what
it's
going
to
be
and
if
it's
a
loss
than
we
as
a
community
will
pay
that
amount
and
that's
they
don't
think
we're
there.
L
L
A
K
A
On
this
before
I,
just
I,
don't
like
being
in
a
public
setting
and
looking
at
something
for
the
first
time,
you
know
it's
just
personally
me
too
I
want
to
reiterate
and
mr.
Quinlan
the
ambulance
service
isn't
gonna
win
anywhere.
Last
meeting
I
said
the
same
thing.
Not
Chris
quoted
me,
I'm,
pretty
good
at
that.
It's
not
going
anywhere,
because
my
family
saw
si
use
that
service
and
one
of
them
on
my
two-year-old
son
at
the
time
saved
his
life.
So
I
know
where
you're
at
so.
I
K
D
D
A
I
So
this
again
is
is
more
informational
and
certainly
welcome
any
the
council's
input
on
this
for
the
with
information
in
the
public
and
the
Cariboo
airport,
some
of
the
services
that
we
provide
up
there
week.
The
improvements
that
we
have
at
the
airport
are
funded
by
the
FAA
I
wish
they
primarily
the
FAA
not
all
of
it,
but
primarily
what
that
funding
comes
obligations
to
maintain
those
assets
for
it.
I
Since
the
runways
we
have
to
go
up
and
and
do
crack
sailing,
they
haven't
told
us,
we
have
to
sweep
it,
but
we
definitely
need
to
keep
them
clear.
We
are
supposed
to
enter
time
under
the
contracts
that
we
have,
and
this
is
Ana
staff
metal.
It's
in
the
packet
as
well.
The
minimum
standards
to
be
met
for
maintenance
are
those
required
or
prescribed
by
applicable
federal
state
and
local
agencies
with
due
regard
to
climatic
and
flood
conditions.
I
The
city's
agreements
with
the
FAA
provide
that
nothing
contained
in
the
agreement
shall
be
construed
to
require
that
the
airport
be
operated
for
aeronautical
used
during
temporary
periods
when
snow
flood
or
other
climatic
conditions
interfere.
Was
that
operation
and
maintenance?
The
city
currently
has
a
part-time
plow
operator
who
clears
the
snow
at
the
airport
when
what
needed
we
don't
have
any
sweeping
capabilities.
We
don't
have
the
equipment
up
there
to
do
that.
That
is
done.
I.
I
That
the
Presque
Isle
Airport,
of
course
they
have
commercial
traffic
and
different
obligations
that
we
the
during
times
when
short
term
closure
is
necessary.
We
can
impose
temporary
closures.
We
just
have
to
notify
all
the
personnel
that
might
be
flying
between
the
land,
that's
referred
to
as
an
Odom
or
notice
to
Airmen
and
there's
a
process.
I
We
have
to
go
through
of
checking
the
runways
both
at
the
beginning,
the
middle
on
the
end,
and
we
have
a
software
online
system
that
we
have
to
go
and
report
numbers
to
it's
an
FAA
system
and
they
then
spit
out
a
score
for
the
runways
based
on
the
conditions
that
we've
reported
a
a
score
of
three
three
three
basically
indicates
everything's
clear
and
there
shouldn't
be
any
issues
landing
at
the
airport,
a
level
or
a
score
of
one
one.
One
would
indicate
that
you
have
ice
conditions,
snow
conditions
and
it's
a
hazardous
situation.
I
I
We
can't
you
know
our
contract
with
the
fuel
supplier,
it's
supposed
to
be
only
for
aeronautical
services,
but
right
now
we
don't
have
a
security
camera
up
there,
24/7
monitoring,
if
it's
a
plane
or,
of
course,
but
he
else
that
fuel
island
we,
it
was
constructed
with
FAA
funds,
and
so
we
have
to
maintain
that
the
fuel
that's
in
the
ground.
We
have
to
maintain
that
as
as
any
gas
station
would
we
have
to
go
through
the
proper
procedures
to
maintain
that
asset
check
on
it.
I
The
we
have
requirements
from
the
FAA
side,
as
well
as
the
supplier
side,
through
Phillips
66,
who
we
get
our
fuel
from
the
fuel
island
and
the
the
no
domes
historic
historically
prior
to
2018
that
was
being
handled
by
a
fixed,
Base
Operator.
Somebody
at
the
city
had
occupying
the
hangar
up
there.
They
were
providing
maintenance
services
managing
the
fuel
system.
They
were
supposed
to
be
posting
no
Tom's.
I
They
indication
were
that
some
of
their
practices
were
relaxed
compared
to
what
they
were
supposed
to
be
when
that
FBO
and
that
fixed-base
operator
was
that
contract
was
terminated.
We
had
our
public
works.
Director
dave
will
let
go
and
get
all
the
necessary
training
to
operate
the
fuel
system
and
manage
the
records
he
and
I
could
both
do
no
Tom's
he's
up
there
on
a
more
regular
basis
and
his
eyes
on
the
ground,
so
to
speak
generally.
Does
those
the
cost
because
of
the
processes
we
have
in
place?
I
We
recognize
that
there's
less
cost
now
than
there
was
when
we
were
getting
all
the
training
and
everything
put
together
for
having
somebody
up
there.
Managing
these
assets,
the
fuel
island,
doing
the
no
domes
and
monitoring
the
hangar
space,
so
we're
looking
at
roughly
85
or
not
any
five,
looking
at
roughly
five
hours
of
time
that
somebody
would
need
to
spend
up
there
on
a
weekly
basis
performing
these
duties.
I
Our
pilot
works
director
table
that
has
been
doing
that.
It
was
understood
that
last
year,
last
budget
season,
the
council
authorized
a
stipend
for
he
to
be
able
to
do
those
things
for
a
period
of
time,
and
only
until
we
had
an
FB
o
in
place
at
which
time
any
payments
would
be
withdrawn
and
he
would
just
continuous
operations
as
a
public
works.
Director
public
works
director
without
any
worries
on
the
airport
side.
I
Looking
at
it
now
with
the
five
hours
of
work
that
would
be
needed
it's.
What
we
would
like
to
do
is
put
this
out
see
if
there's
any
interest
on
a
part-time
person,
so
that
we
can
get
some
training
in
there
to
be
able
to
relieve
Dave
of
these
responsibilities.
Let
him
focus
again
just
on
the
public
work
side,
and
you
know.
Ideally,
we
would
have
somebody
that
can
come
in
and
maybe
even
have
some
maintenance
services
and
maybe
start
this
process
of
building
an
FBO
service
up
at
the
airport.
I
Again
we
contacted
I,
contacted
Presque
Isle
and
asked
them
if
they
would
mind
sharing
their
fuel
attendant
and
their
services.
They
said
that
if
we
were
to
do
that,
they
would
charge
us
$85
an
hour
plus
transportation
cost
for
their
employee
to
come
up
and
do
those
things.
We
expect
that
at
five
hours
during
the
week
a
week
and
we
could
provide
that
service
at
less
than
the
cost
that
Presque
Isle
charges
to
do
that
same
thing.
L
L
And
the
taxpayers
are
paying
for
it
if
they're
gonna
have
a
hobby
I,
particularly
like
Harley,
Davidsons
and
ridin,
that
doesn't
mean
that
taxpayers
are
going
to
pay
my
addiction
to
my
hobby.
So
number
one,
that's
my
first
question:
can
it
be
pickled
I'm
using
the
word
lightly
pickled?
Can
it
be
shut
down?
If
the
hobbyists
want
that,
then
the
hobbyist
should
step
up
to
the
pump,
get
that
training
and
take
care
of
it
they're
the
ones
using
that.
L
I
L
L
High
liability
is
what
I'm
saying
and
in
the
term
of
business,
if
the
liability
side,
if
the
risk
is
high,
the
reward
is
high,
and
this
is
just
upside
down.
If
we're
not
having
life
flights
out
of
there's
something
going
on
as
a
business
and
we're
using
it
as
a
hobbyist
Airport,
which
is
fine.
Has
anybody
reached
out
to
those
folks
to
see
if
they,
the
hobbyists,
the
ones
that
use
the
airport
to
see
if
they'll
step
up
go,
get
their
training?
Take
care
of
that?
That's.
I
Mean
having
him
up
there,
monitoring
the
fuel
being
up
there.
It's
there's
been
multiple
times
when
he's
been
called
in
after
hours
after
thermal
working
hours
to
come
in
open
a
hangar
help
out
at
the
airport.
It's
the
liability
and
the
obligation.
Is
it's
not
just
something
like
well
yeah.
He
works
40
hours,
and
this
is
can
be
done
in
that
forty
hours.
This
is
additional
time
that
he's
having
to
spend
up
there
beyond
just
operating
the
Public
Works
Department.
It's.
It
is
additional
time
and
a
burden.
B
Yeah
I
was
gonna,
mention
that
about
the
you
know,
the
work
that
he
did
up
there
and
wouldn't
it
be
just
as
probably
cheaper
just
about
a
wash.
If
we
continue
to
pay
him,
maybe
a
little
bit
less
than
what
we
did,
but
just
keep
him
on
he's
all
trained
he's
he's
got
the
knowledge
that
he
needs
and
he's
within.
B
I
K
K
I
Duties
and
I
mean,
arguably
you
know
if
you
were
to
go
over
to
anybody
in
a
private
sector
and
say:
okay
now
we
want
you
to
go
start
doing
this.
Airport
they're
gonna
say
well
how
much
you
gonna
pay
me,
or
the
liability
and
the
time
it's
going
to
take
to
be
up
there
doing
those
things
right
and
it's
the
same
thing
here
and
in
mr.
I
well--that's
case
the
indication
has
been
yes,
he
do
you'd
be
willing
to
take
less
of
a
stipend
than
we
were
paying,
but
by
adding
additional
job
duties
and
responsibilities
needing
to
amend
his
job
responsibilities.
Basically,
his
job
description,
his
indication
as
he
would
probably
leave
if
he
that
wasn't
compensated
something
for
the
additional
duties
in
time.
You.
A
B
I
think
I
had
suggested
at
one
time
in
one
of
our
Airport
meetings
that
you
could
perhaps
create
a
part-time
job
with
a
different.
You
know
a
different
title
other
than
that
Public
Works.
It
could
be
the
airport
manager
or
something
like
that.
That
could
be
within
that
school
scope
of
five
hours
a
week
and,
of
course,
there
would
be
no
benefits
or
anything
and.
B
Duties
that
require
additional
training
I
believe
that
at
some
point
we
have
given
other
employees
who
have
taken
on
additional
duties
and
additional
certifications
and
things
I
think
that
we
have
given
them
stipends
or
increases
and
I
don't
see
where
this
is
any
different
and
his
knowledge.
And
what
he's
been
doing
up
there
is
to
me.
I,
don't
see
the
point
in
starting
over
with
somebody
else,
but
counselor.
I
L
Like
Slimer
out
so
clarification
on
liability,
it's
not
mister!
Well,
that's
liability
he's
an
employee.
It
follows
the
liability
on
the
city,
the
city,
someone
that
carries
that
true,
who
is
he
opening
up
hangers?
For
please
tell
me
it's
not
a
hobbyist
flying
in
here
that
wants
them
to
open
the
hangar
in
the
middle
of
the
night.
G
L
L
A
N
A
L
I
L
You
know
that
for
a
fact
that
everything
comes
across
your
desk
because
I
get
a
lot
of
these
I
do
a
lot
of
purchases
I
have
all
I
can
do
to
keep
up
with
them
and
knowing
where
everything
goes,
and
that
was
my
just
too
that
that
you
know
you
somebody,
you
being
the
top
dog
understand
where
that
stuff
being
used.
It's
not
going
on
somebody's
lawn
and
I'm.
Just
saying
that
in
general,
it's
going
to
something
that
the
taxpayers
have
here
in
the
city,
I.
I
L
My
cell,
who
signs
off
on
the
purchase,
orders
one
if,
if
Scott
wanted
to
buy
something,
are
you
doing
a
purchase
order
and
turning
it
into
the
city?
He,
even
if
you
get
a
quote,
none
and
I'm,
just
saying
in
general,
I
send
out,
quotes
all
the
time
it
doesn't
matter.
What
the
quote
says:
I
still
put
that
in
the
form
of
a
purchase
order
attached
with
a
number
who's
ordered
who
requested
it.
Where
is
it
going?
What
job.
I
Right,
so,
if
if
the
chief
were
to
order
something
new
boots,
I
get
a
quote,
you
would
submit
the
receipts
to
the
finance
department.
They
prepare
the
warrant.
It
all
comes
across
my
dad
I
check
all
the
receipts,
all
the
documents
and
to
see
what
is
being
purchased
as
far
as
which
project
gets
going
toward.
That's,
probably
something
we
can
add
to
the
process.
I
don't
have
a
problem
just.
L
G
L
I
just
would
like
to
see
detail.
Maybe
you
can
explain,
maybe
I'll
come
down
and-
and
you
can
show
me
what
you
do
at
some
point-
we'd
like
to
be
able
to
track
that
I
understand
where
it
went
and
when
questions
are
brought
up,
you
can
say
well.
Mr.
Morrell
you've
got
right
here,
Scott
come
in
on
purchase
order,
blah
blah.
This
is
what
he
bought,
and
this
is
where
it's
going.
I've.
G
I
As
far
as
updating
on
some
economic
development
elements
I
reached
out
to
or
as
far
as
the
Skyway
Plaza
the
contract
with
DHHS
and
has
been
signed,
and
so
we
do
have
DHHS
in
our
commune
for
another
15
years.
So
that's
a
positive,
the
60
access
highway,
the
B
Murray
company
that
was
looking
at
that
space
thanks
to
councillor
Morrell,
were
able
to
find
a
different
space
actually
just
across
the
street
and
they've.
I
So
they've
moved
into
that
space
now
and
are
moving
forward
and
operating
well,
they
they've
invited
to
come
and
take
a
tour
of
their
operations.
If
the
council
was
be
interested
in
in
doing
that
and
seeing
what
they've
actually
got
going
on
there,
we
can
set
something
up
that
way:
the
Cariboo
shopping
center,
mr.
Dana
Cassidy's,
jumping
gym
that
he
opened
up.
He's
indicated
that
he's
going
to
do
a
ribbon-cutting
on
a
Friday,
Saturday
or
Sunday
when
it's
open
he's.
I
Unfortunately,
he's
got
some
family
things
he's
working
with
right
now,
but
said
he
would
be
available
any
of
those
three
days.
If
the
council
wants
to
pick
a
day
and
I,
let
him
know
he
would
make
sure
that
there's
people
there
to
celebrate
that
those
are
the
three
the
highlights
to
just
bring
up
with
you.
I
Most
of
the
interior
has
been
sheetrocked,
and
so
you
can
see
natural
walls
and
rooms
if
we
want
to
set
something
that
up
that
way
for
the
council
to
go
and
take
a
look
as
far
as
other
more
administrative
projects
that
we
have
going
on
right
now,
so
I'm
gonna
go
back
up
to
that.
One
of
the
big
ones
is
dealing
with
a
fire
and
EMS
contracts
with
outside
communities.
I
As
of
right
now,
we've
received
official
word
from
limestone
that
they
would
like
the
hundred
dollar
contract
per
hundred
dollars
per
person
contract
with
the
city
they're
ready
to
sign
as
soon
as
we
are,
and
so
between
them
and
Caswell.
That
would
be
bringing
in
two
hundred
and
thirty
thousand
dollars
of
revenue.
That
was
not
anticipated
in
the
budget
this
year,
and
so
I
would
definitely
be
a
positive
thing
for
us
to
move
forward
with
we
had
at
least
three
runs
out
to
limestone.
Even
today
we
are
again
we're
the
closest
ambulance
service.
I
We
have
some
of
the
crews
to
be
able
to
respond
and
we
have
been
we're
billing
them
directly
for
each
of
those
runs
now,
but
they
would
like
a
contract
so
that
we
can
move
forward
indications
from
West
Midlands
Stockholm
New
Sweden
are.
They
would
like
to
continue
with
fire
and
EMS
services
at
$125
per
person
rate
wait
and
Washburn
and
Perrin
I've
em
have
asked
Presque
Isle
to
provide
their
EMS
services
and
talking
with
the
city
manager
for
Presque
Isle.
I
They
are
not
currently
going
to
seriously
consider
Parham
because
of
the
distances
involved
in
and
going
up
there,
but
that's
obviously
for
them
to
work
out
I'm
still
waiting
for
official
responses
from
woodland
and
the
county
on
behalf
of
meta
Wasco,
Lake,
Region
and
connar
unincorporated
Township
understand
that
there
are
several
of
these
communities
that
we're
having
meetings
tonight.
So
we
may
hear
some
or
get
some
additional
updates
later
this
week.
N
The
fire
and
EMS
contracts
and
we've
been
over
this
many
times
the
additional
two
hundred
and
thirty
thousand
dollars
we're
pretty
sure
of.
Is
that
likely
to
come
in
before
all
of
that
to
come
in
before
we
set
the
commitment
this
year
right
or
where?
Is
that
gonna
a
lot
of
this
revenue
depending
on
how
we
build?
If
we
do
it
quarterly?
Is
it
gonna
come
in
later
on
the
year?
I,
don't
know
what
what
our
options
are
for
billing
cuz
there's
some
talk
about,
allowing
them
to
pay
quarterly
I!
K
I
N
N
I
I
G
K
L
Our
we
tap
in
boring,
in
other
words
you
my
point
that
I'm
trying
to
make
that
is
and
I
have
no
problem
with
quarterly
payments
at
all.
That's
fine,
but
if
order
by
doing
that
is
putting
us
in
a
position
to
have
to
tap
an
LLC
and
pay
interest
on
it
to
carry
us
over
a
dry
hump
of
receivables
of
Taxation
local
em.
And
then
you
know
our
revenues
coming
in
the.
I
L
Can
understand
why
I
asked
that,
because
again
in
quarter
lease
and
we're
trying
to
build
only
what's
needed
and
raise
what's
needed
to
make
it
a
level
playing
field
for
all
of
us,
it
would
put
unnecessary
bear
on
the
Cariboo
taxpayers
to
pay
an
interest
rate
to
care.
You
get
my
point
to
carry
over
to
I,
spell
write
for
another
community.
L
I
And
we
we
anticipate
with
the
new
fee
structure
that
hundred
dollars
per
person.
That
is
a
significant
increase
from
what
they
have
been
paying,
and
it
would
be
a
significant
increase
into
the
into
those
revenues
from
those
outside
communities
that
we
haven't
had
in
the
past.
So
even
their
quarterly
payments
right
will
be
a
benefit
to
us.
I
Some
of
them
not-
and
we've
made
some
assignments
for
members
of
the
committee
to
do
some
additional
research
into
those
ones
that
we
don't
have
in
the
toolbox
now.
So
we
can
see
what
what
we
can
do
or
what
is
necessary
to
implement
those
or
if
we
want
to
even
implement
those,
the
Public
Safety
Building.
I
I
Peter,
who
owns
the
building
that
Kerry
administration
is
currently
in
doubt
on
Sweden
Street
he's
indicated
that
he
would
like
the
city
to
consider
his
building
as
a
possible
site
for
the
future
police
station
or
City
Hall,
and
because
that's
looking
at
his
building
is
not
currently
in
the
scope
of
the
project
or
the
contract
with
artifacts.
We
would
have
to
amend
that
if
the
council
is
going
to
look
at
that
building
as
well,
I
can
give
a
quote
and
see
what
what
additional
costs
I
might
be
in.
Looking
at
that
building
as
well
a.
N
L
I
L
School
there
we
go
I'd
like
to
have
some
sort
of
they're
doing
that
analysis,
I'd
like
to
get
that
in
hand,
and
then
we
know
what
we're
talking
we're
not
guessing
right.
I
Okay,
obviously
union
negotiations
I've
already
mentioned
that
tonight.
The
waging
classification
policy
is
trying
to
put
that
on
the
back
burner,
trying
to
address
some
of
these
other
issues.
The
2020
budget,
the
in
order
for
the
revenue
projections
to
be
finalized.
We
need
to
finalize
what's
happening
with
the
EMS
fire
contracts,
communities,
and
so
we
I
know
we
gave
each
community
until
March
31st
to
respond.
I
What
that
means
is
because
of
way
our
software
is
set
up.
We
can't
input
our
expenses
without
also
inputting
our
revenue
projections
at
the
same
time,
and
so
until
we
get
the
revenue
projections
adopted,
your
monthly
financial
statements
are
going
to
show
negatives
on
across
all
the
lines,
because
we
don't
have
expenses
of
revenues
in
the
system
bill.
That's
it's
a
minor
issue,
but
just
a
beautiful
where
we
need
to
get
that
revenue
budget
passed
as
soon
as
we
can,
but
that's
being
held
up
by
these
contracts.
K
I
General
Plan
Update
is
moving
forward.
The
Planning
Commission
is
is
working.
We
have
a
couple
of
planning,
commissioners
that
have
are
working
with
us
on
the
blight
Commission
and
definitely
appreciate
their
insights.
The
cable
franchise
renewal,
spec
there's
been
discussion
about
what
the
impacts
are
going
to
be
on
the
franchise
fee.
I
We
currently
charge
a
5%
franchise
fee
for
spectrum
to
be
in
the
community,
and
the
FCC
has
handed
down
a
decision
that
basically
says
we
can't
charge
more
than
5%,
but
any
cost
that
spectrums
incurring
on
our
behalf
also
has
to
be
rolled
into
that
5%.
So
when
we
in
the
current
contract
we've,
we
have
that
they
would
provide
free
cable
service
to
City
Hall,
the
fire
station
Nylander
Teague
Park
Elementary,
which
obviously
doesn't
exist
anymore.
That's
not.
I
And
so
the
the
recreation
center,
but
those
free
services
now
have
to
be
deducted
Cory.
The
FCC
would
be
deducted
from
the
franchise
fee
that
we're
currently
collecting
Spectrum's
indication
is
that
if
we
wanted
to
keep
all
of
those
free
services,
we
would
have
to
reduce
our
franchise
fee
from
5
percent
to
4
and
in
order
to
still
have
those
the
peg
channel
that
we
we.
I
So
the
peg
channel
and
the
franchise
fees,
those
those
are
all
in
spectrums.
From
their
point
of
view,
they
just
passed
those
costs
onto
the
customers
in
order
to
pay
the
city
the
in
order
to
provide
that
benefits
to
the
city
that
we
have
in
the
franchise
agreement.
So
we're
still
working
through
some
of
those
issues
and
and
we'll
bring
that
back
to
the
council.
I
The
LED
conversion
process
we're
now
working
with
real
term
to
verify
that
all
of
the
city's
LED
lights
are
now
under
the
LED
rate
structure
with
Ameri,
which
we
anticipate
will
bring
some
additional
savings
to
us.
If
we
get
all
of
that
tied
down
and
we've
changed
out
all
the
phone
systems
and
the
city
buildings
now
we're
down
with
GWI
instead
of
OTT
and
basically
it's
a
square
bar
at
the
other
high
streets
on
hald
River
Road
is
on
hold
till.
We
see
what
happens
in
the
spring.
Hopefully
nothing.
I
P
N
P
Been
quiet
for
a
couple
meetings:
I'm,
just
a
small
dog
here
little
dog
I'm,
not
one
of
the
big
three.
So
if
when
it
comes
to
purchase,
orders
don't
mind
using
purchase
orders,
but
my
biggest
expense
is
a
voting
booth
and
ballots
and
I
am
required
to
buy
the
ballots
from
a
certain
vendor.
So
I
don't
mind
using
them.
But,
for
instance,
if
I
need
a
light
bulb,
can
I
go
over
to
SW
columns
and
well
I.
Don't
do
it.
Someone
from
rec
helps
me
replace
the
light
bulbs
in
my
general
assistance
office
turned.
L
P
P
P
Was
polite
when
you
tell
you
okay,
so
I
don't
but
I
do
do
a
warrant.
I
do
a
warrant
for
general
assistance
and
those
checks
for
that
warrant
are
sitting
in
my
desk,
but
the
warrant
is
sitting
around
his
desk.
Those
checks
for
that
warrant
do
not
go
out
and
last
my
boss,
the
city
manager,
signs
off
on
that
warrant.
He
is
not
doing
the
purchase.
Orders
I
do
those
purchase
orders
because
it's
for
general
assistance
and
that's
the
welfare,
but
he
signs
off
on
it
and
it's
sitting
on
my
your
desk.
P
Please
sign
up
so
now
when
it
comes
to
dogs,
because
I
heard
a
counselor
mention
dogs.
Tonight
we
are
still
in
dog
season
around
here
at
Caribou
City
office,
because
the
late
fee
started
now
as
a
clerk
I
follow
rules,
you
want
a
clerk
to
follow
the
rules.
I
follow
state
law,
I
follow
city
ordinances.
You
want
a
clerk
that
does
that
and
I
would
say
in
most
personality
types
and
we've
done
them
at
clerk
training
sessions.
P
We
tend
to
follow
in
this
certain
area
of
clerks
and
we
follow
the
rules
and
I
always
say
to
people.
There's
no
shades
of
grey
here,
it's
black,
it's
white
and
I,
follow
the
rules.
So
when
it
comes
to
dog
licensing
right
now,
there's
it's
$6
an
$11
for
a
dog.
That's
a
new
dog!
Every
registration.
We
called
over
800
dog
owners
in
January
and
now
there's
a
late
fee
and
late
fee
is
$25
on
each
dog.
P
L
G
P
P
L
P
It
is
following
state
law:
I
do
want
to
explain
about
the
dog
licensing
a
$6
dog
3
of
that
goes
to
the
state
of
Maine.
Two
of
that
goes
to
animal
welfare
here
in
the
town,
and
one
dollar
is
a
clerk
revenue.
Okay,
so
I
do
a
thousand
dogs
a
year.
That's
a
thousand
dollars
weird
I!
Believe
me,
I'm,
not
one
of
the
big
dogs
I'm
a
little
yappy
one
after
heel,
okay,
now
the
$25
late
fee,
every
diamond
that
goes
to
animal
welfare.
P
Now,
if
you
want
to
see
where
your
animal
welfare
money
is
gone,
it
is
472
on
page
32,
animal
welfare,
and
you
have
seventy
nine
hundred
and
twenty
four
dollars
and
twenty
one
cents
and
that
animal
welfare
account.
That
is,
that
is
late
fees
and
dog
licenses
goes
to
right.
Now
it's
been
sitting
there,
building
up
accounts,
but
it
couldn't
used
to
get
dog
food
do
something
for
doggie
jail.
It.
L
P
I
P
It
but
it
what
I'm
saying
is:
is
there
are
monies?
Those
are
monies
that
we
okay,
so
we
are
doing
the
late
fees.
Okay
and
I
got
the
dogs.
I
got
the
small
dog
okay,
now
I'm
going
into
my
voting.
Okay,
that's
one
of
the
areas
that
you
want
again
your
clerk
to
follow.
State
law
we
have
March.
Third,
is
the
presidential
preference
primary
and
to
vote
in
that
you
have
to
be
enrolled
in
a
party.
Okay.
P
So
tomorrow
is
the
deadline
for
turning
in
apps
voter
registration
cards
that
were
not
done
at
City
office
in
the
clerk's
office,
so
the
next
three
weeks
after
tomorrow,
you
have
to
register
to
vote.
If
you're
a
new
registrants
office
come
Friday
night.
If
you
want
to
change
your
party,
because
you
are
unhappy
in
the
party
that
you're
in
right
now
and
you
want
to
vote
in
the
presidential
primary
and
a
different
party,
you
have
to
do
that
by
Friday
closing
because
for
15
days
and
technically
it's
Monday
but
we're
closed
15
days.
P
So
if
you
change
your
party
to
have
that
all
set
for
the
election
March
3rd,
if
you
want
to
change
a
party,
you
have
to
do
it
by
this
Friday
and
during
that
time,
that
you're
neither
a
Democrat
or
a
Republican
you
you
cannot
vote
and
get
that
party's
ballot,
because
you're
not
either
a
democrat
or
republican.
Now,
if
you're,
unenrolled
or
not
in
a
party,
you
can
enroll
in
a
party
anytime
between
now
and
through
Election
Day,
and
then
you
can
get
the
ballot
of
that
party.
Okay,
so
remember!
P
Switching
if
you
want
to
switch
you've
got
to
do
it
by
Friday.
If
you
want
to
register
to
vote
like
do
it
at
motor
vehicle
or
someplace
tomorrow's,
the
line
absentee
ballots
is
Thursday
February
27th
and
we
will
have
extended
hours
we'll
be
here
from
5:00
to
7:00
that
night
to
do
absentee
balloting
and
updating
our
voting
lists
and
I.
P
So
that's
my
election
stuff!
Oh
one,
I'm
wing
nothing
out.
There
is
the
catastrophic
leave
program
that
came
up
last
october
november
and
it
hasn't
come
back
and
I'm
just
hoping
that
in
the
next
five
months
or
more
precisely
a
hundred
and
seventy
five
days
or
less,
the
catastrophic
leave
program
can
come
back
to
the
council.
L
P
Are
not
connected
to
the
internet
in
the
state
of
Maine.
None
of
the
tabulators
are
connected
to
the
internet
and
we're
backed
up
all
with
paper
and
the
machines
are
tested
tomorrow.
We
will
hopefully
be
testing
the
Express
vote,
and
that
is
a
machine
that
no
one
uses,
but
it's
a
machine
that's
available
for
ones
that
would
have
vision,
impaired
hearing
impaired,
maybe
they're
a
wheelchair-bound
and
they
have
to
use
I
mean
I,
don't
know
the
words
for
it,
but
special
way:
special
adapted
equipment,
Thank
You
penny.