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From YouTube: November 26, 2018 Special Council Meeting
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A
B
And
council,
we
were
notified
a
couple
months
ago
that
Chris
our
very
own
Christina
was
recognized
by
main
biz.
As
you
know,
it's
a
publication
that
is
not
produced
here
in
Maine
and
it
goes
out
to
other
states
in
the
area
and
I
believe
it
in
the
Canada
and
they
choose
individuals
who
are
kind
of
the
movers
and
shakers
for
the
state
of
Maine
and
for
2018.
B
C
C
C
When
my
husband
and
I
decided
to
move
back
to
my
hometown
after
being
urban
for
nearly
20
years,
we
wanted
to
use
our
skills
to
grow
caribou,
while
helping
shape
its
future
for
our
own
sons,
and
we've
met
a
lot
of
folks
like
ourselves,
people
from
all
walks
of
life
in
every
corner
of
the
country
who
are
excited
to
make
the
possibilities
reality
destination.
Tourism
is
an
essential
part
of
growth
and
development
and
I'm
happy
to
say
that
caribou
is
embracing
the
strategy.
C
We
are
successfully
highlighting
our
community
as
a
four-season
three-nation
destination
with
cultural
and
community
experiences
that
are
second
to
none.
We
are
also
seeking
Main
Street
status,
strengthening
business
municipal
relationships,
seeking
new
opportunities
with
Canada
and
the
Aroostook
band
of
Micmacs
testing,
new
incentives
for
entrepreneurs,
and
our
list
goes
on
stay
tuned
for
more
exciting
things
from
caribou
and
I
also
said
that
I
was
really
happy
to
work
with
a
council
who
is
progressive
and
understands
the
importance
of
all
these
things,
and
that
you
guys
you
guys.
C
Let
me
kind
of
some
of
my
crazy
ideas
just
run
with
them
and
I
appreciate
that.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
all
you
do,
and
it
was
just
an
honor
to
be
recognized
by
peers
and
colleagues
who
nominated
me.
I
have
no
idea
who
nominated
me.
I
heard
I
had
three
nominations,
but
I
don't
know
who
they
were
so
if
it
was
any
of
you.
Thank
you,
but
it's
an
exciting
thing
for
me
and
I.
Think
for
the
city.
D
A
E
I
mean
we
have
a
pretty
good
feeling
that
it
was
groundwater,
I
mean
that's
just
being
trapped
and
it's
going
underneath.
So
there's
a
lot
of
water
coming
off
that
hill
and
it
really
had
there's
no
drainage
for
that
road.
So
it's
it's
hitting
that
road.
It's
hitting
that
old
railroad
bed
and
it's
just
going
the
the
easiest
path.
That's
going
to
go
is
down
through
the
ground
underneath
the
road
and
out
to
the
stream.
E
Yeah
well,
for
the
most
part,
its
surface
water-
it
you
know,
we
only
you
know,
had
four
boring
so
hard
to
hard
to
pinpoint
a
underground
river
under
there,
but
there
wasn't
any
evidence
on
the
downhill
side
of
anything
to
that
effect.
So
I
yeah
I
think
it's
a
combination
of
its
its
you
know,
relatively
older
material
and
water.
Just
do
the
drainage
very
important.
A
E
E
The
second
option
was
to
realign
that
road
about
20
feet
just
to
the
other
side
of
the
utilities,
leave
it
about
the
same
elevation
and
and
no
retaining
wall,
just
a
riprap
slope.
You
know
that
one
on
one
or
two
on
one
down
to
where
it
were
tied
back
in
the
third
option
was
to
realign
the
road
out
and
around
using
kind
of
the
old
railroad
bed
so
kind
of
staying
away
from
that
failed
embankment.
It
would
still
require
some.
E
You
know
some
reshaping
and
whatnot
of
that
of
that
hillside
or
that
embankment,
and
then
the
fourth
option
we
looked
at
was
actually
just
lowering
the
road
vertically
that
wouldn't
require
a
wall
require
a
little
bit
of
riprap
slope
stabilization.
All
these
options
would
require
drainage
improvements.
A
E
A
G
E
D
F
E
Yeah
most
be
surface
drainage,
culvert
stitching
all
that
sort
of
thing,
because
if
I
can
prevent
that
water
from
getting
into
the
ground,
then
it's
not
going
to
be
there
so
get
rid
of
the
water.
Now
good
insurance
with
any
road
project
and
a
lot
of
projects
I
do
is
under
drain
and
usually
that's
at
the
at
the
base
of
your
gravel
materials
and
that
keeps
water
out
of
your
road,
your
road
gravel.
E
F
D
E
I
think
that's
something
that
we
would
look
at
under
final
design.
I
can
tell
you
that
the
this
feasibility
analysis
really
looked
at
that
that
certain
section
of
road
that
basically
started
at
the
Terios
or
that
field
road
and
went
down
to
the
goals,
and
that
was
the
majority.
Now
we
looked
ancillary
around
that,
but
I
think
I
definitely
think
that
in
that
general
vicinity
of
that
you
know
give
or
take
either
side.
We
would
want
to
look
at
yeah.
F
E
F
E
So
well,
let
me
tell
you
what
we
did
it
Grimes
million.
You
may
remember
that,
but
we
did
a
feasibility
study
just
like
this
and
then
after
that,
the
city
hired
us
to
do
the
final
design
permitting
and
construction
oversight
of
that.
So
what
we
would
do
moving
forward
with
this
is
do
a
final
design.
Go
out
to
bid
get
a
contractor.
E
E
So
if
we
start
relatively
soon,
I
think
we
could
have
bids
out
in
early
the
early
spring,
March
or
even
April,
so
that
would
be
good
for
bidding
season.
My
concern
that
I
see
now
is
we
have.
We
did
a
very
preliminary
survey
of
the
site
and
it's
not
something
we
would
do
final
design
on.
So
we
would
need
to
get
somebody
back
out
there
to
survey.
We've
got
another
eight
inches
of
snow
coming
today
and
that's
you
know
it's
it's
possible,
but
it
certainly
makes
it
more
difficult
as
more
snow
gets
dumped
on
us.
E
The
other
concern
with
permitting
that
I'd
have
to
work
around,
and
at
least
talk
to
the
DEP
on
is
the
individual
nurple
permit
usually
requires
pictures
that
aren't
don't
have
snow
in
them
and
we're
past
that
kind
of
past
that
right
now,
unless
everybody's
got
some
big
hears,
but
that's
something
we
can
work
around
to
it
won't
necessarily
slow
the
project
down.
It
may
shift
that
that
you
know
that
the
review
of
that
of
that
permit.
So
those
are
a
couple
of
things
that
come
to
mind
anyway.
E
So
yeah
we
made
some
assumptions
here
and-
and
these
are
you
know
relatively
large
and
and
could
be
you
know,
depending
on
the
contractor
and
how
we
do
final
design,
but
the
the
stabilized
earth
wall.
We
had
a
90-day
performance
period,
so
a
three-month
construction
period
and
we
had
a
60-day
period
for
the
riprap
I
was
trying
I
want
to
say
it
was
about
60
days
when
we
did
Grimes
Mill.
A
A
G
F
H
E
A
A
B
The
cost
I'm
just
putting
it
together
in
a
spreadsheet
right
here,
or
so
you
can
see
it
on
the
board.
These
are.
These
are
rough
numbers
based
on
the
prices
that
we
we
paid
for
the
properties.
So
the
estimate
is
that
these
would
be
the
options:
1.4
million
1.2
million
two
point:
six
and
one
point:
three:
five
and
the
cost
to
acquire
those
properties
comes
out
to
about
two
thousand
thirteen
thousand
the
one
option
of
following
the
railroad
tracks.
B
This
we're
gonna
have
to
acquire
a
lot
more
property
and
actually
cut
the
the
gulf
property
in
half
and
acquire
additional
right-of-way
through
there.
So
this
is,
you
know,
snowballing
a
number
for
how
much
that's
going
to
cost
to
acquire
all
of
that
additional
ground
and
whatnot.
But
then,
of
course
the
ability
is.
B
Number
two,
you
would
get
less
in
return
for
those
properties
because
you
are
having
to
tear
down
those
homes
and
really
all
you're
selling
at
the
end
is
what
land
is
left
over,
but
there
would
also
be
I,
don't
know
che.
Maybe
you
could
answer
that
1.2
million
is
that
include
the
demolition
cost
for
the
homes
that
would
be
in
the
way
for
number.
B
B
B
B
D
B
Option
number
one
you're,
not
the
one
house,
the
Theriault
house,
you're
not
going
to
be
selling
that
mobile
home.
Again,
we
don't
anticipate
and
that's
you
know,
that's
a
fifteen
thousand
twenty
thousand
dollar
value
right
there
and
the
ability,
because
it
also
comes
down
to
how
quickly
do
you
want
to
get
him
back
on
the
market
where
we
are
print.
We
are
buying
them
for
a
fair
market
value.
B
H
E
Yeah
I
think
those
ones
are,
you
know
they're
a
little
less
industrial,
so
to
speak
of
the
wall.
We're
looking
at
is
that's
a
like
the
walls,
those
aren't
necessarily
engineered.
The
blocks
are
engineered
and
the
manufacturer
of
that
product
you
know,
has
literature.
This
is
how
you
stack
it
up,
but
where
you'll
actually
have
reinforcing
with
this
type
of
wall
system,
it's
it's
an
engineering
system.
I
shouldn't
see
that.
F
E
It's
a
good
quote
on
the
other
side
of
the
River
Road.
Well,
that's
I
was
just
thinking
of
that
too.
That's
another
elephant
in
the
room
is
that
whatever
is
done
whatever
option
one
or
two
that
property
that
chunk
of
property
is
gonna,
have
to
be
dealt
with.
There's
gonna
have
to
be
some
acquisition
there,
so
that
that's
another
and
that's
a
kind
of
a
wild
car.
At
this
point,
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
the
city
has
gone
after
any
sort
of
acquisition
on.
B
That
yet
the
property
was
in
decay,
they're
not
willing
to
sell
their
property,
but
they
recognized
that
there
would
be
construction
work
done
on
their
property
and
we
would
probably
need
to
get
easements
in
favor
of
the
city
for
whatever
gets
put
there.
If
it's
a
retaining
wall,
we
need
to
get
easements
for
the
construction
aspect
of
it,
as
well
as
the
placement
of
the
wall
long
term.
B
E
Yeah,
it's
just
something
that
should
be
vetted
in
the
process
sooner
than
later,
because
you
know
clearly
the
some
sort
of
easement
needs
to
be
gathered
for
that,
and
you
know
that,
if
need
be,
I've
seen
a
lot
of
that
stuff
go
to
eminent
domain.
So
it's
something
that
needs
to
be
vetted.
I
I
had
a
conversation
with
her.
She
actually
called
me
directly
and
asked
a
few
questions.
She
seemed
you
know
pretty
willing
to
work
with
if
she
got
future
acts.
E
She
realized
that
she
can't
build
on
that
site
because
there's
less
than
200
feet
from
the
road
to
the
river,
so
she
physically
I
think
per
code
can't
put
a
structure
up.
She
knows
that
she
actually
just
wanted.
Maybe
some
improved
access,
so
I
think
there
may
be
some
juggling
there,
but
until
someone
signs
on
the
dotted
line
with
an
easement,
you
know
I
wouldn't
be
comfortable
doing
that.
A
E
A
E
I
mean
I
I'm,
gonna,
I'm
gonna,
stick
to
my
recommendation
on
option
two
and
the
reason
I
like
option
two
is
I:
do
get
counselor
Kirkpatrick's
opinion
I,
but
the
the
wall
takes
a
specialty
to
kind
of
put
up.
You
can't
just
you
know,
go
grab
some
laborers
in
here
to
put
this
wall
up.
If
that's
not
how
it
works.
A
A
E
B
Heard
counsel
in
the
in
the
packet
just
to
draw
your
attention
to
it.
There
was
a
diagram
of
what
might
be
involved
in
the
construction
of
that
wall,
and
you
can
see
this
would
be
the
surface
of
the
road
as
it
is
now
and
in
a
sense
you
would
have
to
excavate
down
the
depth
of
that
wall,
put
in
a
good,
solid
foundation
for
that
base
level.
And
then,
as
you
go
up
each
tier,
you
would
tie
back
into
the
ground
so
that
the
ground
itself,
the
weight
of
the
ground,
helps
support
that
wall.
B
It
doesn't
tip
over,
but
every
so
many
feet
or
every
so
many
blocks
up.
You
would
create
that
anchor
back
into
the
hillside,
so
you
would
the
wall
itself,
I
mean
from
an
engineering
standpoint
and
I'm,
not
an
engineer.
So
I'm
I
can't
really
say
that,
but
I've
seen
these
done,
the
ground
itself
holds
the
wall
in
place
with
the
proper
tying
back
into
the
ground.
F
E
There's
quite
a
distance,
because
what
happens
is
that
Bank
comes
down
and
I
could
be
wrong.
Don't
get
me
wrong,
I
mean
we
have
those
weird
years
in
the
or
one
hour,
but
that
put
that
Bank.
That
field
slope
came
straight
down
almost
it
plateaued
for
a
ways
and
then,
when
it
backed
down
to
the
river,
so
there's
there's
a
shelf
there
so
to
speak
and
it's
pretty
heavily
vegetated.
So
if
the
vegetation
is
left
down
on
that
lower
slope
and
in
on
that
shelf,
I
don't
see
that
affecting
that
in
that
on
that
specific.
A
E
I
think
to
this
point,
I
think
everyone
realizes
that
I
would
hope
everyone
realizes
now
that
you
know
from
a
taxpayer
standpoint,
there's
a
lot
of
other
problems
along
the
river
that
we
see
now
and
to
me
as
a
city.
We
need
to
be
actively
looking
at
those
now.
This
was
just
you
know.
This
happened
caught
us
everybody
off
guard
I,
think
Grimes,
Mill
Road
was
a
was
an
example
of
that.
A
A
F
E
You
know
I
we
stood
out
there
and
with
the
public
works
director
and
the
city
manager,
and
we
looked
at
it
and
what's
you
know,
what's
the
alternative,
what
can
we
do
and
I
think
that's
what
we
all
kind
of
came
to
the
realization,
I,
don't
think
you're
gonna
do
anything
worse
to
that
road.
I
mean
I,
think
the
damage
is
done.
F
E
A
A
E
A
E
D
A
E
A
E
Yeah
I
mean
I,
guess
that's
where
we
come
in
as
engineers
we
come
in
to
reduce
that
liability,
whereas
the
liability
with
just
putting
gravel
down
you
know
we
could
probably
talk
about
that
for
an
hour,
but
I
mean
I.
Think
that's
really
what
you're
asking
is,
can
we
just
go
in
there
and
and
and
throw
something
down
and
pave
it
and
maybe
be
good?
E
Well,
let's
stay,
you
know
you
know.
Paul
brings
up
a
point
that
it
never
as
a
moved
in
11,000
years
and
I
get
that
most
of
it
hasn't,
but
there
are
certainly
local
failures
on
that
slope
that
you
can
see
where
that
slope
has
failed
in
the
past
with
in
the
recent
past
in
the
last
ten
years.
So
there's
nothing
there.
That
says
it's
stopped
moving
that
we
saw.
B
I
think,
mayor
and
council,
what
we're
looking
at
is
tui.
If
we're
not
going
to
get
it
open
first
thing
into
thaw,
then
we're
going
to
have
a
time
frame
a
time
frame
here
where
we
need
to
come
up
with
a
fix.
What
is
the
design?
How
is
it
going?
Are
we
putting
the
design
out
to
bid,
or
do
we
in
a
sense
turn
the
do
blong,
King
and
say
you've
already
got
all
the
information
right
here
continue
with
the
design,
and
once
we've
got
a
final
design
that
we're
comfortable
with.
B
F
And
I
think
first
choice:
we
should
decide
on
an
option.
We
can
at
least
do
that
and
then
let
them
get
some
some
design
work
done
doesn't
mean
we
have
to
fix
the
road
right
away,
but
we
we
need
a
direction
to
go
in
and
we
need
to
get
the
drainage
and
hey
if
the
city
highway
can
come
in
and
make
another
take
some
of
that
property
and
in
bulldoze
the
road
I'm
happy
as
long
as
I
can
go.
F
D
B
So
right
now
we
we
have
a
contract
with
Dubois
on
King,
for
the
conceptual
work
which
has
been
presented
tonight
and
in
previous
meetings,
and
so
what
we
can
do
is
Shane
and
I
could
sit
down
and
go
over.
Okay,
we're
now
expanding
the
scope
of
work.
What
is
that
scope?
What's
the
estimated
cost
and
we
can
bring
that
back
to
the
council
for
final
approval
as
far
as
amendment
so
that
contract?
If
that's
the
direction
you
want
to
go.
A
A
A
B
The
Washburn
select
board
got
together
and
they
have
achieved
Suzy.
Maybe
you
can
address
this
with
the
council
better,
but
they
Washburn
and
Wade
basically
do
the
same
types
of
services
and,
as
I
understand
that
Wade,
the
representatives
for
Wade
opted
to
also
go
with
Caribou
for
roughly
half
of
their
community
being
served
by
Karamu.
D
H
Yeah,
that's
great
that
addressed
it.
The
count
there
select
meeting
Board
of
Selectmen
meeting
was
last
last
week.
They
met
and
it
was
unanimous
vote
to
pick
on
Presque,
Isle
and
caribou
fire
we're
going
to
split
the
ambulance
service
in
their
community.
Just
like
we
split
our
mutual
aid
for
a
fire.
It'll
it'll
be
an
outstanding
service
for
that
community
and
Wade
kind
of
follows.
Whatever
Washburn
does
for
their
citizens
or
town
offices
in
Washburn.
H
Know
geographically,
so
we're
using
the
town
office
as
the
cutoff
line,
so
school
Street,
which
is
right
at
the
town
office
and
then
hind
street
that'll
all
be
caribou.
Everything
to
the
south
of
that
will
be
press
Cal
Fire
and,
of
course,
we
already
have
mutual
aid
agreement.
So
if
we're
tied
up
we'll
call
them
and
if
they're
tied
up
they'll
call
us,
but
it's
still
about
a
seven
to
eight
minute,
I
ta
for
any
of
those
spots.
H
K
H
K
H
Thank
you,
the
ad,
the
ad
that
we
have
to
mandatorily
run
for
Maine
EMS
will
be
in
the
star-herald
on
Wednesday,
and
then
there
was
a
30-day
wait
period
from
that
that
people
have
a
chance
to
respond
right
back
to
state
government,
nothing
local.
After
that
we
get
the
results
and
then
hopefully
January
1st
just
start
operations.
B
B
The
email
that
I
sent
out
to
you
last
time
show
that
we
were
still
meeting
to
find
her
in
ten
thousand
dollars.
Roughly
I
met
with
the
department
heads
just
this
afternoon,
and
we
discussed
some
of
those
cuts
right
now.
I
haven't
got
all
those
incorporated,
but
we're
looking
for
$33,000
roughly
two
to
get
down
to
the
parameters
that
the
council
asked
us
to
find.
I
K
A
A
A
That
we
were
going
to
follow
the
recommendation
of
the
manager,
put
it
on
the
2001,
so
that
we
could
have
time
to
get
what
he
do
this
race,
but
to
get
our
ducks
in
order
and
understand
what
you
yourself
told
us
when
mr.
Kilpatrick
was
going
down
and
wanting
to
know
about
the
hospital
that
we
as
a
council
would
do
things
in
a
majority
form.
A
And
maybe
people
would
change
their
mind
and
that's
fine,
but
I.
Just
all
of
a
sudden
I
came
in
last
night
last
meeting
in
there
was
$70,000,
yeah
I,
remember
councillor
Dennis
saying
you
know
we
don't
have
to
go
to
the
voters
for
this.
We
can
do
with
ourselves
and
I
said
you
will
never
do
it
and
now
we
have
fallen
approval
and
we're
still
loving
it,
but.
K
The
last
time
that
was
a
non-binding
referendum
question:
if
we
decided
to
go
forward
with
this,
would
they
support
okay?
It's
not
the
will
of
the
people,
as
you
so
think
that
we're
going
to
put
this
into
effect
right
now.
It
was
a
question
if
we
decide
to
go
through
with
this,
whichever
format
we
chose,
would
you
be
willing
to
accept
the
tax
increase?
All
right?
That's
all
we
didn't
say
we're
going
to
implement
this
right
now,
unless
I
misunderstood
the
question
and
I
hope.
A
K
Trying
to
make
is
is
that
we
don't
need
to
rush
into
this.
Okay,
there's
no
reason
why
we
can't
wait
until
the
next
budget
season
to
do
this
and
to
think
it
out
put
it
on
paper.
So
you
know
exactly
what
you're
doing
and,
in
my
honest
opinion
is,
is
that
you
don't
need
to
raise
taxes.
You've
got
enough.
You
carry
over
every
year
to
where
you
could
hear
mock
some
of
that
money
and
establish
a
reserve
account
and
carry
it
forward
every
what
you
don't
you.
We
have.
F
A
L
D
L
L
L
The
warehouse
and
stuff
sleds
are
going
through,
but
they're
right
on
top
snow
banks
and
everything
else.
There
is
no
set
trail
right
now.
I
would
really
like
to
be
able
to
get
a
trail
into
town
that
would
service
our
13
businesses,
currently
maybe
safe
for
the
users.
If
we
would
go
out
right
now
without
my
application
being
accepted,
we're
taking
a
chance
of
not
being
reconverted,
but
the
state
knows
that
the
artists
no
belt
up
here
right
now,
there's
a
lot
of
snow
on
the
ground.
People
are
getting
very
anxious
and
peachy
to
go.
L
Her
a
reimbursement
till
April
May
after
grooming,
so
this
would
be
money
that
the
city
would
have
to
carry
out
for
a
while.
I
will
personally
volunteer
my
time
to
go,
and
so
with
my
director
maintenance
go
and
volunteer.
I
already
mentioned
that
with
another
eight
to
ten
plus
inches
of
snow
coming
tonight,
it's
tomorrow
and
possibly
I
think
winter
is
here:
I,
don't.
L
L
L
M
L
L
The
Washburn
Washburn
has
gone
out,
they've
done
maintenance,
they
called
their
drag
behind
their
tractor
by
the
way.
So
that's
why
their
machine
has
been
helped
and
that's
why
the
groomers
are
that
they're
out
woman
they've
only
been
out
twice
to
do
one
section,
two
countries
in
the
other
section
they
did
the
next
day
after
so
they've
been
helped.
We
have
nothing.
L
A
Jiri
I
guess
I
as
I'm
shoveling
about
each
Christmas
tree
100
time
where
I
say
to
myself
at
least
the
hospitality
industry
home
we've
sat
around
and
wondered
if
we
have
snow
on
Christmas
vacation
here,
I'm
saying
to
myself:
they're
gonna
get
Thanksgiving
vacation
these
guys
20
year,
yes
and
I,
didn't
know,
I,
don't
know
anything
about
some.
We
know,
but
I
didn't
know
that
they
said
it
hey.
When
you
get
reimbursed
I
can
only
ask
that
you
do
whatever
in
your
line
of
work.
A
Let
them
know
that
we'd
like
a
little
more
control
over
when
we
can
groom
our
trails,
be
not
that
we
want
control,
but
that
you
will
accept
our
suggestions,
because
what
I'm
from
what
I've
been
hearing
is
yeah,
it's
great
if
caribou
go,
does
goes
and
does
it?
What
happens
at
Presque
Isle
doesn't
exist
and
you're
bringing
people
up
here
and
half
our
system
is
not
up
to
snuff,
where
if
everybody
was
getting
reimbursed,
I'll
bet
to
everybody.
A
L
My
suggestion
yep,
this
feat-
has
big
Ranger
orders
in
the
western
side
of
the
state,
AFM
huge
landowner
that
don't
allow
their
December
due
date
and
then
buzz
alone
in
these
right
now.
So,
but
up
here,
we
don't
perving
has
never
regulated
to
my
knowledge
to
open
up
for
snowmobiles
courtesy
car
along
either
seven
islands.
Neither
so
our
landowners
up
this
area
are
a
little
bit
easier
to
get
along
with
and
the
ones
that
they
get
down
safely.
L
Cannot
get
to
all
of
the
restaurants?
I
cannot
get
all
with
the
hotels
at
this
moment.
No,
no,
because
of
because
of
swampy
areas,
but
if
we
could
say
hey,
we
have
done
the
rail
beds,
we've
gone
across
town
and
if
you
choose
to
stay
at
the
convention
center,
you
can
travel
into
the
park
and
ride
unload
like
they
do
an
early
season
riding
anyways
I.
L
L
D
L
Get
covered
right
now
so
again
and
I,
don't
know
in
all
the
business
of
both
of
the
TIF
district
and
your
marker
I
know
that
there's
been
talk
that
maybe
not
this
community
but
I,
know
there's
other
communities
that
are
using
some
tip
monies
for
recreational
trail,
news
and
grooming
I.
Don't
know
where
that
under
my
eyes
for
us.
L
H
F
L
H
L
L
B
K
A
A
I
B
And
so
I
guess
I
can
come
back
a
little
bit.
The
remember
that
this
is
the
expense
budget
and,
if
it
number
from
in
the
expense
budget,
you
can't
amend
it
after
it's
adopted,
which
was
part
of
my
understanding
from
the
last
discussion
about
the
whole
70,000.
Was
that
know
if
it's
in
the
budget
you
don't
have
to
spend
it,
but
at
least
it's
there,
but
now
I
can
definitely
take
it
out
because
that's
of
that
direction,
but
the
same
thing
with
the
purchasing
of
the
streetlights.
B
If
we
for
the
most
conservative
thing
to
do
for
the
budget
would
be
to
say
we're
not
going
to
purchase
it
and
plan
for
the
extra
fifty
thousand
dollars
in
electricity
costs,
but
that's
where
we've
got
to
look
at
it
looks
like
we're
going
to
really
do
this.
That's
what's
enabling
us
to
come
down
to
the
threshold
where
we're
at
right
now
is
we
spend
the
20,000
plus,
what's
in
the
reserve,
right
now
to
purchase
those
lights?
D
B
K
B
The
other
item
that
you
brought
up
about
the
front-end
loader
but
Public
Works
I,
talked
to
Dave
about
that
this
afternoon.
There
are
other
pieces
of
equipment
that
he
said
that
can
be
deferred
to
future
years,
such
as
the
15-foot
batwing
Moore,
says:
that's
something
that
doesn't
have
to
get
this
year.
That
was
estimated.
It
was
25,000.
B
And
so
24,000,
so
they
said
he
could
do.
It
doesn't
have
to
do
the
batwing
more
this
year,
but
the
three
and
a
half
yard
loader
is
something
that
is
a
must-have
for
for
2019.
They
already
replaced
the
transmission
in
it
about
nine
years
ago,
and
it
only
has
about
a
10-year
life
and
the
cost.
They
said
they
spent
about
ninety
thousand
dollars
just
to
fix
the
transmission
last
time,
knowing
that
that's
going
to
be
coming
up
real
soon,
it's
better.
B
Today's
recommendation
is
to
go
ahead
and
fund
the
new
$210,000
loader,
but
a
good
portion
of
that
about
seventy
four
thousand
dollars
of
that
would
come
from
reserve
money.
That's
already
been
put
in
place
for
major
capital
equipment
purchases,
plus
they
are
anticipating
trading
on
a
vehicle
of
fifteen
thousand
dollars.
So
there's
90,000
going
toward
that.
A
A
B
Know
if
I
might
interject,
the
council's
has
talked
about
on
multiple
occasions
using
past
unexpended
reserves
to
help
offset
the
male
rate,
and
at
this
point
this
budget
we
haven't
even
touched
any
of
that
unexpended
reserve,
and
so
there
is
still
a
possibility
that,
yes,
this
is
the
expense
budget
and
it's
coming
in
lower
than
what
you've
asked.
But
we
can
also
dip
into
those
unexpended
reserves
from
the
past
to
help
also
offset
those
adjustments.
D
A
A
H
A
What
is
this
number
that
I'm
trying
to
define
that
we
can
actually
go
tap
into
it?
Has
nobody
has
their
name
written
on
it
say,
and
instead
we
took
it
out
of
the
high
street,
find
out
that
got
turned
into
a
an
all-purpose
account
for
road
construction
and
stuff,
like
that,
when
I
know
for
a
fact,
one
last
time
it
that
that
account
was
strictly
supposed
to
be
for
question
right,
that's
what
I!
That's
what
I
reference?
A
D
A
A
A
B
A
A
K
At
the
end
of
the
year,
we
have
what
we
call
undesignated
funds
that
aren't
identified
and
we
roll
them
over
and
they
go
into
the
general
fund
every
year
and
it's
kind
of
sort
of
like
reserve.
It's
not
identified.
You
have,
according
to
state
law
of
the
ability
to
establish
a
rainy
day,
account
such
as
you're
speaking
specifically
for
those
purposes
like
the
Grimes,
Road
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
So
you
have
an
avenue
to
travel.
K
It's
it's
actually
what
you
would
have
to
consider
emergency
legislation
because
you're
over
expending
your
expense
budget,
which
we've
done
so
at
the
end
of
the
year,
we'll
make
up
those
differences
out
of
the
undesignated
balance.
But
if
you
identify
a
certain
portion
of
your
undesignated
fund
balance
to
go
into
a
reserve
account,
then
you
have
that
rainy
day
funds.
Okay,
if
not,
is
just
to
sit
in
the
general
ledger
and
we're
just
going
to
pick
away.
G
A
A
What
do
we
call
that?
Overly
and
that's
last
few
years,
it's
a
reminder,
the
rest
of
the
money
you're
talking
about
kind
of
strong,
every
department
that
had
a
hundred
percent
allocated
to
it,
but
spent
95
or
96
or
97.
So
all
those
monies
were
allocated,
but
they
weren't
spent
and,
and
that
usually
ends
up
for
coming
up
to
three
or
four
hundred
thousand
for
250
bucks.
So
yeah
most
of
it
is
a
sign
to
the
department's,
what
they
don't
spend
too
many
December.
G
D
A
A
B
A
B
K
Overlay
when
we
establish
that
that's
basically
for
abatements
during
the
course
of
the
year
at
the
end
of
the
year,
if
there's
anything
left
over,
that
would
end
up
in
the
undesignated
fund
balance
also.
So
that
is
a
separate
use.
Now,
I
want
to
confuse
it
with
the
reserve
until
it's
actually
put
in
that.
A
A
A
A
Mr.
marker
made
it
very
clear
in
one
of
his
discussions,
the
council
toured
over
the
next
two
or
three
years
has
some
hard
decisions
that
load
of
our
infrastructure,
and
things
like
that.
You
made
that
nice
graph
I
got
it
made
sense
to
me.
You
made
a
point
that
we
have
to
make
some
hard
decisions
and
I
say
well:
I,
wait
until
next
year's
counselor
the
year
after
Scott.
So
why
can't
this
council
me
about
it
and
start
to
make
the
hard
decision
go?
A
That's
my
point
and
that's
what
I
want
to
hear
discussion?
I'm,
not
I
mean
I'm
personally
in
favor
of
that
love
the
lights,
just
the
let
you
know
you
white,
but
there
was
a
few
things
he
ventured,
but
I
don't
wanna
get
too
much
in
the
weeds,
because
that's
what
I
view
as
administration's
job
I'm.
Looking
from
the
philosophy
standpoint!
A
I,
don't
want
to
see
us
get
through
the
point
where
this
town
needs
a
new
putter
truck
now
they're,
looking
around
with
the
race
plan.
To
do
this
and
I
mean
I.
Think
Jeb
was
done
a
pretty
good
job
of
maintaining
this
stuff
because
we
save
every
year.
That's
I
mean
what
you're
talking
about
is.
Do
we
need
this
program?
Do
we
need
that
program?
Do
we
need
that
program
because
everything
else
at
this
point
in
time
in
one
place,
we
have
money,
is
in
the
capital
improvements
and
that's
been
cut.
It
already.
A
Well-
and
that's
true,
you
know
all
except
I,
but
I
ran
for
this
position,
based
on
the
fact
that
I
believed
in
zero
based
budgeting,
where
you
literally
do
go
in
and
assume
a
department
was
it
needed
now.
That's
not
true.
I
get
it,
but
you
start
from
zero
and
you
go
and
you
do
one
or
two
apartments
apartments
per
year
and
you
do
go
through
a
process
where
about
you
see
how
things
different
services
can
be
delivered
in
a
different.
You
want
the
services
on
that
same,
but
can
we
do
in
the
process?
A
D
A
Have
some
assumptions
when
you
go
into
it
but
I,
just
I,
don't
know
I
felt
down
over
the
last
three
or
four
weeks
that
we
just
really
haven't
I,
don't
know
what
Nicole
thinks
on
the
budget
not
like
deal
with
Nicole.
Thank
you
not
like
to
get
with
Dominion
in
in
gentlemen
and
on
that
on
this,
on
the
whole
concept
of
the
middle,
increasing
this
community,
the
graph
that
he
showed
us
and
the
debt
that
you
see
coming
down,
that
world
I
just
want
the
people.