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From YouTube: Planning Board January 4, 2017
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The January 4, 2017 Caribou Planning Board Meeting
Minutes and Agendas for the Planning Board can be found here: http://www.cariboumaine.org/index.php/government/planning-board/planning-board-minutes-and-agendas/
A
C
C
A
My
calling
on
you
the
motion,
okay,
all
in
favor,
okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Everybody
setting
meeting
dates
times
for
2017,
typically
the
first
wednesday
of
the
month
at
five-thirty
that
works
well
for
me,
I'm
good
with
it.
No
no
requests
to
changes,
no
I'm
going
to
continue
that's
good
moving.
Second.
Did
we
can
keep
that
schedule
all
in
favor
passes.
G
G
G
All
marijuana
establishments,
including
recreational
and
medical,
with
the
governor,
proposing
to
do
away
with
medical
marijuana.
It
only
makes
sense
to
have
the
moratorium
and
everything
with
the
articles
in
the
Bangor
Daily
today
saying
that
the
medical
marijuana
dispensaries
want
an
early
entry
did
to
the
recreational
market.
It
only
further
justifies
us
taking
the
closer
look
at
it
all.
So
the
first
question
that
we
wanted
we
need
to
discuss
and
decide
is
whether
or
not
we
want
to
have
the
recreational
establishments
in
our
community.
G
Recommends
that
we
do
not
allow
the
recreational
marijuana
facilities
in
caribou
and
I
would
agree
that
that's
the
most
prudent
step
for
us
in
our
community
at
this
point
in
time,
there's
too
many
unknowns
with
the
laws
that
are
allowing
these
operations
to
set
up
shop
in
Cuba
would
pose
large
negative
impacts
on
our
community
and
we'll
are
already
stretched
city
resources.
If
the
planning
board
feels
this
is
something
we
should
allow
that
we
need
to
discuss
the
locations
based
on
the
zoning
map,
some
restrictions
or
regulations
that
we
want
to
place
upon
it.
G
I'm
not
aware
of
any
community
across
the
state
that
has
created
any
ordinances
regulating
allowing
the
recreational
marijuana,
but
Ellsworth
has
banned
it
provided
a
link
to
their
ordinance
in
the
packet,
so
I
guess.
First,
we
need
to
decide
whether
we
want
what
steps
we
want
to
take
for
recreational
marijuana.
Do
we
want
to
allow
it
all?
Are
we
want
to
bang
from
the
community.
E
F
B
D
G
G
A
My
understanding
is
that
it's
going
to
be
nine
months
before
they
have
any
rules
or
regulations
to
determine.
You
know
how
what
where,
when,
as
far
as
recreational
use
and
I
think
to
try
to
make
a
decision
in
what
I
would
consider
to
be
a
vacuum
right
now
until
we
see
what
the
Department
of
Agriculture
says,
in
other
words
and
I'm,
I
guess
I'm
in
favor
of
kicking
the
ball
down
the
street
until
such
time
as
more
information
is
available,
I
I.
E
A
And
I
and
I
I
agree
with
you
on
that
and
therefore
I
guess
what
I'm
saying
is
the
idea
of
a
workshop
to
discuss
it
at
this
time?
I
think
is
premature.
I
I
mean
I
would
I
would
because
we
don't
have
the
role
a
lot
of
the
regulations
and
number
two
I
think
at
best
you
know
we're
just
going
to
say:
ok,
the
borders
don't
want
it.
We
don't
know
what
the
rules
are.
I
mean,
I
think
it's
a
it's.
A
F
Necessarily
I
mean
I
agree
with
michelle.
I
don't
think
we
should
kick
them
all
down.
The
road
and
I
agree
with
Todd
with
you
know,
either
making
a
committee
or
a
workshop,
because
I
think
we
should
be
in
front
of
it
not
waiting
for
it
to
take
place
and
then
I
was
trying
to
play
catch
up
afterwards.
I
mean
I
think
between
us,
the
City
Council.
You
know
whoever
else
chooses
to
attend
that
workshop
or
whatever
we
can
pretty
get
a
pretty
good
idea
of
what
everybody
wants
to
do.
F
C
B
A
B
G
As
the
moratorium
in
place
also
infects
the
medical
marijuana
dispensaries,
we
do
needa
scuss
how,
if
at
all,
we
want
to
change
the
ordinance
as
it
relates
to
that.
If
we,
the
concerns
from
the
communities
and
it's
in
the
Bangor
Daily
today,
medical
marijuana
dispensaries
is
that
they
want
to
be
the
front
for
the
recreational
side
of
things.
So
the
current
ordinance
that
we
have
for
the
medical
marijuana
dispensaries
is
on
the
following
pages
there
in
the
package.
D
G
D
H
G
B
H
H
F
A
A
I
It's
not
the
first
time
I
hear
that
complain
about
the
little
current
law
of
the
books.
The
law
in
the
books
does
include
for
regulation
and
enforcement.
However,
there
has
been
no
one
has
taken
the
steps
to
go
into
these
illegal
care.
Providing
dispensaries
DHS
does
go
around
the
state
in
the
eighth
that
they
have
their
lawful
and
regulated
and
licensed.
Others
aren't
particularly
license.
So
don't
really
know
where
to
go
in
a
lot
of
times
of
turning
a
blind
eye
to
it.
I
I'd
be
surprised
if
you're
law
enforcement
here
is,
you
can
go
on
in
there
and
done
an
inspection
or
they
going
to
say
that
need
a
warrant
which
certainly
would
have
probable
cause.
So
I
don't
like
to
see
that
as
a
way
of
brandishing.
Why
you'd
be
opposed
to
the
medical
marijuana
dispensary,
it
does
give
me
a
foot
steps
to
get
in
and
you
just.
There
is
already
a
site
design
application
filed
city,
careful
which
predated
the
moratorium.
I
I
The
moratorium
that's
in
place
is
specific
to
medical,
if
only
talks
about
dispensaries
and
Everett
sites
that
medical
has
already
been
approved
and
his
love,
the
city
ordinance
of
caribou,
is
approved
in
his
log
and
it
envisions
medical
dispensaries
to
take
the
step
back
with
trading
try
to
undo.
Well,
it's
been
on
your
book
since
2010.
It's
an
interesting
step.
We
suggested
a
statute
that
was
in
violation.
I
I
So
then,
instead
of
just
holding
us
and
when
both
their
steps
that
can
be
taken
to
protect
the
interests
of
state,
an
alternative,
it
wouldn't
be
fair
moratorium
or
otherwise
just
leave
at
they
are
sitting
for
the
total
volume
80
days,
especially
where
it
was
presented,
tires
and
moratorium,
and
the
moratorium
is
not
clear
entity
viable
NASA
such
an
imposition
at
least
take
a
look
at
the
application
say
whether
or
not
as
appropriate
application
or
not.
If
you
only
want
to
deny
it
because
memoriam
I'll
be
good
to
have
that,
that's
why
we're
here,
I.
D
E
C
A
I
received
a
coffee
and
maybe
I
should
afforded
it
to
everybody.
When
Jim
Chandler
system,
the
city
manager
asked
rick
salomon
for
an
opinion.
I
got
response
basically
saying
that
it's
a
poorly
written
and
it's
not
detailed
enough,
which
in
reprogram
or
the
moratorium
and
reading
in
between
lines,
I
suspected
that
Rick
Salomon
basically
was
responding
to
the
moratorium
from
a
recreational
use.
Only
and
I
asked
Jim
Chandler.
If
he
had
told
mr.
A
G
A
conversation
with
mr.
solemn
last
week
as
well
and
I,
we
we
discussed
two
things
in
a
moratorium
and
really
risk
he
did
say
you
know.
We
have
had
this
ordinance
on
for
a
few
years
now
and
if
we're
not
going
to
make
any
changes
to
the
medical
side,
the
medical
ordinance
as
exists
today,
then
we
should
move
along
from
the
medical
side
process.
The
application,
take
it
off
the
moratorium
and
keep
the
moratorium
on
the
recreational
side.
D
G
So
we
we
can't,
we
can
regulate
medical
dispensaries,
but
we
can't
abandon
one
area
that
we've
looked
at
is
what
other
communities
have
done
as
well.
As
you
know,
fees
for
the
application
process-
and
it's
something
we
want
to
look
at
for
moving
forward-
perhaps
is
how
do
we
regulate
this?
Make
sure
the
application
is
updated.
You
know,
are
they
still
operate
or
not
similar.
C
G
How
we
do
with
for
liquor
license
and
those
types
of
things
where
it's
an
annual
renewal
process,
and
you
know,
do
we
look
at
some
type
of
fee
at
some
point
down
the
line
to
help
cover
the
costs
associated
with
it?
So
that's
something
that
we
we
want
to
look
at.
That's
not
something
that
we
have
to
be
addressed
here
tonight
or
part
of
the
ordinary
tonight.
G
It
could
be
part
of
the
broader
chapters
artillery
right
which
will
get
back
to
you
in
February,
but
I
I
would
say
it's
probably
our
best
interest
to
make
a
decision
one
way
or
another
as
to
whether
or
not
we
believe
this
ordinance
satisfies
what
our
needs
are
for.
Regulating
medical
marijuana,
dispensaries
and
moving
forward
with
the
issue.
F
I
think,
regardless,
whether
we're
going
to
make
changes
to
it
now
later,
they
have
an
application
before
us
and
based
on
I
guess
from
what
Rick
has
said.
You
know
really
have
medical
marijuana,
dispensary
ordinates
on
file.
We
can't
deny
them
the
opportunity
to
look
at
that,
based
on
the
way
it's
written
right
now.
You
know
I
mean
we
ran
into
this
with
we
denied
the
apartment
at
facilities
on
Russ
tree,
because
the
way
the
ordinance
was
written,
it
was
not
allowed.
F
A
A
Basically
and
I'm
not
sure
if
we
should
be
directing
this
to
mr.
Solomon
or
to
the
City
Council
for
them
to
director
mr.
Solomon.
But
I
think
that
the
moratorium
should
be
applied
to
recreational
marijuana
use
only
because
we've
had
the
medical
ordinance
on
the
books
for
a
number
of
years,
and
I
think
we
need
to
proceed
with
processing
your
application.
Just.
A
I
A
G
A
I'm
still
new
at
this
I'm
foggy
in
regards
to
you
know:
what
can
the
Planning
Board
do
as
far
as
recommending
things
to
the
council,
because
the
moratorium
that
the
council,
the
emergency
moratorium
that
they
passed
was
never
brought
to
us
I
mean
I
thought
about
I
found
out
about
it
in
the
newspaper,
and
so
you
know
I
kind
of
view.
The
council,
as
having
superior
authority
over
us
and
so
I,
don't
know
it
kind
of
makes
me
question.
Are
we
a
mute
body
because
anything
we
do
or
don't
do
they're
going
to
override
us.
G
Know
the
Planning
Board
certainly
makes
recommendations
on
emergences
as
it
relates
to
the
lane.
Usko
I
think
that
you
know
the
Planning
Board
can
make
a
recommendation
based
upon
the
facts
that
we've
I
say
that
we
need
to
alter
the
moratorium
or
clarify
should
say
clarify
the
moratorium
that
the
medical
marijuana
side
of
it
is
up
to
par
of
the
standards
of
the
Planning
Board
believes
are
necessary,
and
so
we
should
remove
that
portion
of
the
moratorium
and
clarified
that
it's
applies
to
the
recreational
side
and
I
believe
that's
a
reasonable
recommendation
for.
What's
really.
C
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E
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E
A
13
workout
absolutely
well.
The
other
thing
is
my
understanding
in
granting
a
and
again
educating
me
from
wrong
in
granting
a
permission
for
this
organization
to
move
forward,
we
can
put
stipulations
in
the
permission
that
the
permission
that
is
being
granted
is
for
medical
use
only
period
and
does
not
extend
to
recreational
use
and
that,
if
ever
they
should
want
to
do
recreational
use,
they
have
to
come
back
and
go
through
the
process
all
over
again
under
a
different
set
of
rules,
I
mean
that's
perfectly.
A
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A
D
E
G
D
F
Well
regards
to
other
old
business,
something
we
discussed
last
meeting
was
with
regards
to
left,
Ortiz
is
apartment
building
and
then
subsequent
parking
and
stuff
like
that
as
everyone,
because
we're
Napoli's
is
now
closing,
oh
hell,
no,
which
now
no
they
closed.
What
the
23
or
24
said.
What's
that
business
yep,
so
therein
lies
one
of
the
fears
of
the
Prussians
we
had
is
that
you
know
he
had
an
agreement.
No.
F
D
F
F
C
A
I
scarce
in
manager
if
and
when
he
has
time
to
look
into
the
smelt
like
it's
an
emergency.
Are
you
understanding
what
the
issue
is
that,
when
dr.
Ortiz
was
initially
granted
permission
to
have
an
apartment,
he
was
part
of
the
application
was
that
he
was
going
to
build
internal
parking
inside
the
building,
which
never
happened,
and
now
he's
come
to
us
for
us
a
second
apartment
and
says
he's
going
to
satisfy
the
parking
requirement
with
an
agreement
across
the
street
with
Napoli's.
G
F
F
D
D
G
C
F
Problem
is
plenty
I'm
not
even
get
into
the
plowing
or
maintenance
of
it,
or
anything
like
that,
because
everybody's
well
aware
that
that
the
ordinate
stacey
has
to
provide
off
street
parking
and
I
was
not
able
to
find
the
definition
of
off
street
parking
in
my
book,
but
I
know
I
know
it's
defined.
I
just
haven't
been
able
to
wrap
my
hands
around
it
yet,
but
he.
F
G
F
F
A
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
that
this
issue
died,
that
the
planning
board
acted
as
enacted.
I
believe
that
there
is
off
street
parking
provided
through
the
agreement
across
street
end
of
discussion
and
I.
Don't
know
why
we
keep
beating
this
dead
horse
because
we
did
something
at
all
if
anybody's
interested
in
second
overtime,
I.