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From YouTube: December 7, 2016 Planning Board Meeting
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Minutes and Agendas for the Planning Board can be found here: http://www.cariboumaine.org/index.php/government/planning-board/planning-board-minutes-and-agendas/
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Well,
thank
you
I'm
here
this
evening
to
request
that
our
proposal
application
be
accepted.
It's
my
understanding
that
you
put
in
a
moratorium.
After
the
fact
the
application
was
submitted
on
october,
twenty
sixth
and
the
moratorium
went
into
effect
on
the
fourteenth
of
november
the
26th
leftover.
It
will
said
that
being
set
upon
a
closer
look
at
your
honor
moratorium.
It
seems
to
me,
like
it's
specific
to
recreational.
F
F
F
G
A
C
I
may
this
is
the
application
package
that
was
brought
to
my
office
by
mr.
Cadell
and
I
passed
it
on
to
miss
Thompson.
Had
mr.
Trudeau
go
down
and
visited
with
penny
Thompson,
our
building,
official
and
building
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
I,
believe
penny
assisted
mr.
Dell
and
going
through
the
site,
design
application
form
that's
contained
within
the
document
to
help
him
complete
some
of
the
young,
incomplete
Alliance.
Is
that
accurate
so
and
that
into
that?
After
that
penny
held
on
to
it
and
then.
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C
I
haven't
conducted
any
review
of
this
material
at
all.
I
have
not
looked
this
material
penny
helped
him
fill
in
the
missing
blanks,
the
blanks
that
were
not
completed
on
the
site,
design
application,
which
is
our
form
that
he
completed
with
pennies
assistance
to
make
the
application
sufficient
for
submission
and
the
fee
at
that
time.
Okay,
but
since
then
we
haven't
processed
it,
we
haven't
done
anything
with
it
at.
F
F
You,
sir,
however
I
was
told
that
I
I
couldn't
make
it
because.
C
And
then,
subsequent
to
that,
the
council
held
moratorium
held
a
meeting
on
the
14
past.
The
emergency
moratorium
sets
public
hearing
date
for
the
28
past
the
permanent
moratorium
and
both
those
things
have
occurred
and
I,
provided
you
with
the
staff
report,
mr.
bleeze,
the
manager
provided
to
counsel
for
those
two
meetings
and
the
documentation
that
was
used
for
those
two
meetings.
The
documents
you
have
are
the
documents
that
were
eventually
signed
by
council
I,
don't
have
copies
its
assigned
version,
but
those
can
be
produced
if
need,
but.
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My
question
is,
and
I
went
through
the
package
that
you
sent
out
to
my
email,
the
best
I
could
and
I
became
very
confused
because
we
have
two
issues
before
us
as
a
as
a
community.
One
is
medical
marijuana,
dispensaries
of
which
one
is
already
established.
I
don't
know
if
it's
up
and
running,
but
I
see
it
every
day
when
I
go
by
it.
That
th
slightly
online
curriculum,
I'm
finished,
equip
my
question,
and
so
in
my
mind
anyway,
that's
one
issue:
medical
marijuana,
dispensaries
and
the
other
issue
is
what
I
believe
the
city
council.
F
D
A
A
Help
educate
us
my
understanding
regarding
the
medical
dispensaries.
I
mean
we've
been
made
aware
of
medical
providers,
who
are
private
individuals
who
are
able
to
take
on
a
limited
number
of
people
that
they
grow
in
and
service,
whereas
in
dispensaries
are
larger
scale
operations
and
there's
a
restriction
of
X
number
in
the
state
of
Maine.
Now
I
thought
there
was
one
established
for
whiskey
county
in
eagle
lake.
That's.
A
F
A
F
B
F
A
good
question,
so
an
individual
may
have
some
sort
of
debilitating
illness.
They
end
up
going
to
their
doctor
right
here
in
town
might
be
one
of
them
mamuka.
As
my
fact,
and
you
have
a
regular
position
that
that
does
a
very
good
job
in
term
in
right
here
in
town,
for
assisting
patients
that
are
on
much
heavier
medications
such
as
oxycontin
and
moving
them
off
of
those.
That
being
said,
they
go
to
their
doctor
and
they
get
a
recommendation
with
the
recommendation.
F
That's
a
car,
they
come
to
a
dispensary
and
they
end
up
signing
a
designation
form.
That's
provided
by
the
state
allowing
us
to
grow,
for,
in
addition,
they
go
through
an
orientation
of
how
to
use
it.
What
to
use
when
to
use
when
not
to
use
and
what
not
to
do
don't
drive,
don't
operate
machinery.
What
have
you
that's
all
part
of
the
operation?
They
leave
the
card
with
us
and
then
they're
allowed
to
purchase.
A
A
F
E
F
F
C
That
in
your
packet
it
goes
good
works
28
through
431.
That
is
the
current
example
code
here
as
well.
But
this
copies
of
those
four
pages
are
in
your
package
and
there
is
there's
no
mention
in
our
code
of
the
word
marijuana
or
cannabis.
It
just
simply
talks
about
dispensary
and
register
cultivation
facility,
because
it
is
it
is
that
this
is
the
code
section.
Unless
someone
in
the
rum
perhaps
can
tell
me
otherwise
I
think.
G
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J
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D
C
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I
wrote
it:
okay,
we
addressed
issues
is
location
proximity
to
such
things
and
churches
and
schools,
I
believe,
is
this-
is
not
what
I
wrote.
Phil
is
not
what
you
wrote.
There's
no
mention
in
our
crew
chief
keef
you're
hanging
of
myself
worked
on
it
yeah
we
had
a
decent
ordinance.
I.
Think
we've
had
two
full
words,
though,
could
be
that
somehow
things
have
changed
since
every
time.
G
C
It
didn't
that
it
was
the
only
thing
I'm
not
in
the
code,
anything
closely
related
to
the
dispensary
and
that's
what
I
went
to
put
in
find
marijuana.
That's
what
I
started
looking
for.
So
that's
why
I
presented
that
to
you
is
what
I
believe
to
be
what
we
were
dealing
with
and
what
mr.
Goodell
was
referring
to
when
he
said
he
was
going.
A
Think
we
have
a
situation
that
we're
going
to
have
to
send
this
to
the
municipal
legal
counsel,
to
give
us
direction,
because
we've
got
a
couple
of
issues
here,
number
one.
What's
on
you
know:
what
does
the
city
have
for
an
ordinance
regarding
medical
marijuana
and
what
effect,
if
any,
does
the
moratorium
that
the
City
Council
implemented
have?
And
we
don't
want
to
act
in
any
way
that
we
shouldn't?
We
want
to
be
law-abiding,
as
you
do
and
I
know
that
this
causes
a
delay.
A
A
F
K
K
The
moratorium
seem
to
be
awfully
specific
to
leave
the
passage
or
the
not
passage
of
what
was
being
presented
by
this
referendum
at
the
last
election
and
I.
Think
the
action
taken
by
the
town
was
looking
to
make
sure
that
they're
going
to
be
able
to
handle
whatever
direction.
That
boat
went
whether
it
was
the
yes
vote
or
no
vote
and
things
weren't
just
going
to
turn
into
a
citywide
dispensaries
for
recreational
marijuana.
K
At
least
that's
what
I
see
when
I
look
through
the
the
main
townsmen
in
the
other
ways
that
it
was
considered
and
referred
to,
but
what
I
did
earlier
was
I
looked
at
title
22,
which
side
of
the
main
laws
specific
to
dispensaries
that
are
folks
that
are
authorized
and
there's
a
specific
section.
Leave
you
copy
of
this
money
to
look
at
the
paragraph
10
and
only
have
one
you
that
I'm
share
so
I'll.
Let
you
guys
pass
it
around
and
says.
K
Number
of
dispensaries
that
may
operate
in
the
political
subdivision
or
from
enacting
reasonable
regulations
applicable
to
dispensaries.
That's
what
you've
done
with
your
ordinance
already,
which
we
have
a
copier.
The
local
government
may
not
adopt
an
ordinance
that
is
duplicative
up
or
more
restrictive
than
the
provisions
of
this
act
and
the
ordinance
that
violates
this
subsection
is
void
and
of
no
effect,
so
we'd
suggest
the
moratorium
in
regards
to
the
application
that
mr.
Janelle,
we
have
to
save
alternatives.
Is
it
that
moratorium
is
Boyd
in
regards
to
his
dispensary
for
medical
purposes,
I'd.
G
E
Is
a
touchy
subject
all
around
because
it's
not
if
you
can't
when
we
pledge
to
abide
by
the
rules
even
in
coming
in
this
planning
board,
we
pledge
federal
and
state
hello,
we
don't
and
federally.
This
is
still
a
schedule,
1
drug,
that's
an
eagle,
so
it
depends
on
which
side
you're
falling
on
in
which
laws
you're.
Looking
at
as
to
whether
or
not
this
is
here.
K
K
Marijuana
card
isn't
going
to
carry
mustard
with
them.
There's
any
marijuana
across
the
board
because
they've
got
their
federal
rules,
but
I'm
also
aware
that
they
don't
turn
that
into
their
job
number
one,
because
the
way
the
state
has
lined
up
on
the
marijuana
issue,
I,
don't
know
what
they're
going
to
do
with
your
recreational
use.
F
It
and
it
basically
you
look
at
this-
is
my
birthday
when
neighbor
that
we
might
be
moving.
They
asked
as
well
it's
in
their
different
agent,
yep.
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G
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A
A
K
D
A
D
C
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I
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G
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A
J
C
C
Well,
no,
but
it
was
like
it
was
not
in
the
document
that
I
was
given
when
I
was
given
chapter
13
to
do
the
review
and
I
we
didn't
review
this
yeah.
I
think
it
was
not
of
the
material
that
I
reviewed.
When
are
we
doing
that
review
in
the
summer
we
left
when
we
left
off
in
the
summer?
This
is
not
something
that
was
in
that
documents
right,
but
it's
obviously
known
the
books
in
20
family.
That
means
we
need
to
really
look
at
what
were
your
mix.
D
G
I
E
A
Was
quite
disappointed
when
I
first
came
on
and
was
emailed
a
copy
of
the
current
that
I
spent
well
over
a
weekend
reading
only
to
find
out
that
it
was
not
the
current
copy
you
know,
and
so
it
it
appears
to
me
that
it's
been
saved
as
a
Word
document.
I,
don't
know
about
under
different
names,
but
at
different
times,
and
there
might
be
three
or
four
or
five
different
files
word
files
out.
G
C
A
C
C
C
L
Time
it's
embarrassing
yeah
actually.
Are
we
but
there's
been
so
much
change
over
with
these
duties
and
and
different
people
and
different
offices,
and
this
and
that?
So,
if
you
want
the
right
document
just
test
me,
I.
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A
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G
C
G
L
I
do
it.
I
have
this
whole
thing
that
I
do
and
there's
certain
places
that
it
goes
and
as
a
PDF-
and
this
is
word-
and
I
have
to
go
through
this
whole
rigmarole-
making
sure
they're
almost
dated
and
the
website
is
one
of
them.
They
did.
The
black
book
know
that
changed
years
ago,
I
think
Lisa,
whether
the
secretary
half
and
then,
and
then,
if
there's
updates
to
it.
Sometimes
people
don't
update
their.
L
G
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E
C
C
It
I
mean
the
purpose
of
a
public
hearing
is
because,
first
and
foremost,
whenever
they're
required
by
statute,
that's
usually
because
the
state
statute
is
dictated
that,
for
whatever
reason
a
public
hearing
is
going
to
be
required
for
X,
Y
or
Z,
whether
it's
a
liquor
license
whether
it's
changing
the
city
code,
reviewing
a
site
design
application.
There's
a
lot
of
variety.
That's
right
reasons
why
a
public
hearing
is
required
because
part
and
parcel
of
a
public
hearing
is
public
notification.
E
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D
To
we,
as
a
planning
board,
have
to
enforce
the
existing
code
and
if
it's
allowed,
say
in
a
particular
location
and
there's
no
other
reason
why
we
shouldn't
approve
it.
We
have
to
approve
any,
but
there
was
an
instance
last
year
where
someone
wanted
to
establish
a
facility
I
think
for
some,
some
handicapped
people
or
needy
people,
and
we
could
have
gone
either
way
on
that.
A
We
couldn't
because
look
at
on
the
first
floor
and
he's
only
allowed
on
the
second
floor,
correct
all
right,
never,
but
I
think
that
the
public
hearing
enables
the
dis
board
to
learn
where
a
person
who
has
an
operation
and
wants
to
establish
a
second
location
hasn't
maintained.
What
was
supposed
to
be
done
at
the
first
location,
things
like
he
doesnt
abide
by
the
the
noise
levels.
He
doesn't
divide
by
keeping
things
behind
the
fans,
etc,
etc.
A
E
C
Guess
I
would
interject
that
this
city
code
is
ultimately
passed
by
the
City
Council,
which
requires
public
hearings
and
organic
changes
to
the
city
code.
Amendments
to
the
seed
coat
require
public
hearings
and
there
are
instances-
particularly
in
this
case,
where
even
the
City
Council
is
going
to
be
constrained
or
limited,
perhaps
in
the
language
that,
therefore
they
were
permitted
to
adopt
into
their
code
because
they
have
to
be
in
accordance
with
state
code.
In
this.
That's
where
this.
C
F
E
E
J
J
Give
you
a
good
chance
to
ask
questions
workout
sure,
so
that
all
makes
sense,
primarily
the
public
earrings,
so
that
the
public
can
sit
here
and
here
not
so
much
that
what
public
says
to
the
Planning
Board
planning
boards
are
to
look
at
the
application
and
the
applicant
has
met
the
criterion
is
trying
to
do
training
board
to
approve
that
based
on
the
ordinance
is
in
place.
That's
where
you
try
to
avoid
you
know
emotional
or
I,
feel
for
the
person
or
past
activities.
J
D
Could
possibly
have
Jeff
commercial
I
hope
this,
where
the
public
input
alts
also
is
helpful.
Sometimes
if
we
feel
we
were
in
situation,
we
wanna
put
conditions
on
the
truth.
Those
conditions
may
be
triggered
by
public,
incredible.
Okay,
where
you
have
that
discretion
at
latitude
well
live
someplace
that
sometimes
we
do
sometimes
we
don't
right.
C
A
Suspect
he
may
have
relied
on
the
useful
associations,
Council
and
direction,
because
the
whole
state
was
insane
in
a
situation
and
and
what
I've
read
is
that
this
whole
recreational
marijuana
use
is
going
to
take
prettier
a
year
to
get
the
rules
on
the
state
level
fully
established
for
department
of
agriculture
or
whomever
to
get
there
get
everything
organized
right:
okay,
moving
on
to
all
business
chapter,
13
revision.
I
believe
this
is
a
request
by
member
mcdonough
to
well.
Why
don't?
I
just
turn
it
over
to
fill
to
tell
us
what
this
is
when
dr.
H
Think,
given
the
greenness
of
the
board,
we
didn't
necessarily
read
into
all
of
what
we
were
discussing
with
him,
especially
when
the
topic
of
parking
came
to
fruition
and
I
believe
that
when
he
initially
turned
that
into
a
residence
back
in
twenty
twelve,
he
said
that
he
was
going
to
have
to
garage
doors
or
one
garage
door.
We've
installed
off
of
into
the
rear
of
the
building
as
they
cross
the
street
from
Napoli's.
H
When
we
discussed
parking
with
mr.
Ortiz,
he
said
that
he
agreed
with
Gary
st.
Peter
who
owns
Napoli's
for
two
spots,
which
would
cover
his
parking
area
in
theory
and
given
the
way
the
code
is
written,
it's
not.
It
doesn't
jive
because
he's
supposed
to
provide
to
watch
or
provide
one
off
street
parking
spot
at
separate
from
his
customers
parking
lot
for
his
business,
which
had
to
put
his
garage
doors
in
there.
He
probably
would
have
been
okay
with
that
I
think
what
we
need
to
do
is
riad
ress.
This
particular
issue.
H
In
give
him
ample
time,
got
sorban
amount
of
time,
but
in
order
to
correct
this-
and
we
need
to
note
that
this
particular
property
right
now
was
a
non-conforming
use.
It's
a
lot
by
us,
which
I
think
I
voted
against
that
particular
thing
at
that
time,
when
we
had
that
that
hearing,
based
based
on
the
parking
aspect
of
it
alone,
it's
non-conforming.
H
A
H
But
even
if
it
has
a
signed
agreement
Gary
doesn't
it
won't
work?
Because
if
you
look
at
page
8,
99
I
said
in
addition
to
the
required
off
I,
don't
think
he
printed
off
the
page.
But
this
is
in
addition
to
the
required
off
street
parking,
the
restaurant
being
Napoli's
at
this
particular
point.
One
parking
space
for
three
seats
based
on
the
maximum
seating
capacity.
H
Does
not
have
that
he
does
now
on
their
own
property,
doesn't
have
enough
of
that
on
his
own
property
municipal
up
next
door
right,
but
that
that
doesn't
apply
to
that.
They
need
to
provide
those
spaces,
and
if
Gary
is
going
to
provide
spaces,
car
keys
he's
taken
away
from
those
spaces
that
he
has
available
to
him
to
provide
parking
for
his
for
his
customers.
Wait.
G
H
A
H
D
H
A
H
H
A
H
H
H
Same
thing
as
far
as
the
putting
the
residential
use
or
the
dwelling
in
that
building
that
we
were
just
talking
about
up
off
the
South
Main
when
facilities
wanted
to
do
that,
it
doesn
t
code.
We
didn't
allow
that.
Then
we
shouldn't
allow
this
when
it
happened,
because
he
dr.
Ortiz,
knew
back
in
2012
when
he
quit
his
first
apartment
in
there
that
he
needed
parking,
and
he
said
he
was
going
to
do
so
by
putting
it
overhead
door.
Come
the
stephen
street
that.
C
J
Of
gutted
inside
of
the
building,
the
lonely
couple
just
kind
of
took
it
out,
and
he
had
an
engineer
to
put
in
steel
beams
to
prevent
a
floor
system
that
as
far
as
I
know,
they
never
got
to
the
garage
door,
part
of
it,
but
he
and
I
think
of
words
that
agree
full
degree
in
and
so
that
create
slope
taxes,
a
public
sidewalk
something
could
put
their
vehicles
inside
of
the
building.
How.
J
C
J
G
J
I
think
what
we've
identified
there's
there
are
many
empty
spaces
on
the
upper
levels
of
the
buildings
on
Sweden
street
that
potentially
could
offer
residential
dwelling
units
and
I
think
back
then
the
plate
for
what
was
trying
to
create
a
way
that
people
could
develop
those
upper
levels.
Looking
at
other
community
Epic's
excuse
only
shirt.
G
J
H
I
know
dr.
ortÃz
stood
in
front
of
us
and
said
when
he
came
for
his
most
recent
one
that
they
scrapped
the
idea
for
the
garage
doors
and
they
were
just
going
to
use,
carries
two
spots.
Okay,
I
almost
believe,
that's
the
point
where
started
getting
a
little
agitated,
but
I
mean
that
we
we
approved
it
as
a
non-conforming
property,
face
away
the
code
written
because
he
doesn't
have
parking
for
it.
That's
what
I'm
trying
to
address
I
mean.
If
you
know
people
reside
about
the
movie,
there
are
provided
parking.
H
C
Fell
apart
in
there
well
I
guess
my
question
would
be
then.
What
I'm
hearing
is
is
that
this
this
use
this
apartment,
this
accessory
apartment,
was
approved
based
on
the
idea
that
this
building
permit
was
being
issued
for
the
provision
of
parking
in
a
garage
great,
so
that
would
have
satisfied
the
requirement
of
providing
parking
for
those
residents,
but
I.
A
H
But
he
set
precedent
by
not
completing
what
he
said
he
was
going
to
do
with
the
first
one
can
be
put
into
overhead
doors
there
he
would
have
been
covered,
but
he
didn't
put
in
on
the
overhead
doors
there
continued
using
it
as
such,
so
I
mean
in
theory
before
he
came
to
us.
That
was
still
a
non-conforming
property
because
he
hadn't
finished
everything
I.
H
And
I
know
that
was
a
big
source
of
contention
with
his
neighbors
at
that
time.
I
think
that
if
I
remember
correctly,
I
think
the
people
who
own
the
company
came
and
said
we'll
wait,
you're
going
to
chop
up
part
of
the
sidewalk
here
and
you're
going
to
take
up
parking
spaces.
You
know
that
the
city
provides
that
not
her
parking
spots,
but
the
city
provides
and
lose.
E
E
Dish
of
I
don't
know
what
all
in
and
of
itself
I
mean
because
the
city
owns
lots
ppl
park
where
they
weren't
supposed
to
and
used
to
get
ticketed
because
they
come
in
and
they
say,
don't
ticket
us
and
we
do
okay
and
then
you
know,
will
plow
around
just
so
the
whole.
The
whole
area
is-
and
it's
very
inconsistent
from.
G
A
Know
I
told
me
not
all
this
part
is
our
issue:
I,
don't
know
if
I
and
I
hate
to
incur
legal
expenses
for
the
city,
but
I
don't
know
if
this
is
another
Rick
Salomon
problem
to
look.
You
know
at
the
chain
of
events,
because
when
we
approve
this
in
the
past
year,
we
were
not
aware
that
he
did
not
complete
the
2012
obligation
of
the
garage
or
middle.
D
H
A
A
A
I
Think
that
if
you
look
at
the
whole
process
that
in
that
particular
situation,
some
of
the
things
that
she
just
brought
up
that
had
been
going
on
in
the
past
would
have
been
corrected
and
he
built
his
first
apartments
and
stuck
with
the
design
that
he
had
said
they
would
have
believed
this
whole
issue.
The
other
issue
is:
is
that
if
a
person
that's
constructing
something
does
not
have
property
that
he
can
provide
talk
then
there's
another
process
there.
I
I
think
that,
actually
you
have
to
go
to
the
Zoning
Board
in
to
get
off
side
part
to
get
approved
for
that
so
they're,
just
one
element
to
give
them
left
out
of
that
and
I'm,
not
a
hundred
percent
sure
of
how
that
particular
item
or
two
anymore,
because
I
haven't
looked
at
it
in
a
long
time.
So,
in
essence,
that
particular
process
is
not
correct.
Okay,
because
it's
not
just
a
handshake
anything
like
that.
That's
a
control,
something
that
need
to
be
dealt
with.
J
Excellent
opportunity,
planing
bullet
members,
that
identified
caribou,
has
issue
with
the
c1
zone,
dealing
with
mixed
uses
during
the
day
for
people
coming
in,
to
hit
the
retail
stores
at
all,
but
people
are
residing
in
the
buildings.
They
do
not
have
physical
square
footage
on
their
parcels
of
land
that
they
go
along
with
the
building.
It's
definitely
an
issue
that
would
be
a
problem
for
people
that
own
vehicles
that
would
like
to
rent
apartments
and
see
one
film
paying
the
c1
zone.
J
It's
the
opportunity
for
the
plane
board
to
rewrite
the
ordinance
to
allow
people
that
don't
own
automobiles,
maybe
they
own
a
bicycle
or
skateboard.
However
they
get
around,
but
everyone
doesn't
have
to
have
an
automobile.
This
would
be
an
opportunity
for
the
Planning
Board
created
ordinance
that
then
allows
those
buildings
to
have
residential
occupancy
without
parking
being
so
quite
often
the
ordinances
that
were
purchased
by
municipalities
years
ago.
That's
saying
that
1980s
in
today's
times
it
could
be,
the
things
have
changed
and
everyone
doesn't
have
to
have
an
automobile.
H
We
can't
continue
to
allow
past
practices
to
set
precedents
for
what
we're
doing,
and
in
basically
theory
that's
what
we
did,
because,
given
the
lack
of
a
safe
experience
for
the
board
at
the
time
when
he
came
in
and
are
like
a
depth
of
knowledge
per
se
or
not
doing
our
homework.
For
that
particular
issue,
I
mean
we've
created
a
problem
for
ourselves,
because
the
next
person
said
well,
you
let
him
do
it
you
let
him
do
it.
I
knew
I
had
to
it.
C
It
be
helpful
if
we
did
some
research
of
minutes
of
the
planning
board
at
the
time
of
the
approval
for
his
site
design
application
for
the
residential
apartments
for
the
first
one
that
apparently,
at
that
time,
the
way
I'm.
Looking
at
the
material
that
I've
looked
at
for
the
last
hour.
A
couple
hours,
so
I
needed
a
lot
more
time
to
really
get
into
this
in
greater
detail.
C
But
it
appears
to
me
from
what
I've
heard
is
that
the
gentleman
came
in
was
given
approval
to
build
some
apartments
that
were
going
to
be
supported
by
interior
parking,
that
he
didn't
complete
correct.
So,
from
my
perspective,
just
hearing
that
it
tells
me
that,
yes,
he
building
permit
that
you
may
not
been
required
by
law
to
complete
from
the
perspective
of
it,
just
being
a
building
permit
was
issued,
but
that,
if
that
was
part
of
a
conditional
approval
of
a
residential
use
accessory
used
in
commercial
building
in
his
own,
that
required
that.
C
Then
he
is.
He
didn't
fulfill
his
obligation
to
this
body
when
they
gave
him
that
approval
based
on
the
idea
was
going
to
provide
parking
inside
the
structure.
That
makes
sense
he
hasn't
provided
the
inside
parking,
correct
and,
and
now
he's
come
back
to
you
with
the
idea
that
he's
going
to
secure
the
parking
spaces
that
he
didn't
provide
in
the
building
by
renting
them
from
a
neighbor
and
you're
telling
me
that
the
neighbor
doesn't
have
enough
spaces
to
allow
him
to
do
that.
Doesn't
I
think
required.
C
Him
if
you'd
like
me
to
I'm
happy
to
ask
him
for
an
agreement
with,
I
wrote
down
Napoli's
is
that
Gary
Saint
Peter?
Yes,
okay!
So
I
can
ask
mr.
Ortiz
if
he
has
a
copy
of
the
agreement
that
he
has
mr.
st.
Peter,
if
that
in
fact
turns
out
to
be
satisfactory
for
solving
his
problem
by
not
building
his
interior
parking.
C
C
H
I
J
J
Boards
should
not
become
involved
in
attempt
to
force
covenants
being
the
covenants
about
part
of
the
ordinance
if,
if
one
property
owner
makes
an
agreement
to
use
space
on
another's
property
and
then
that
person
sells
the
property,
the
next
owner
potentially
would
not
endure
a
lot
of
that
if
it
were
actually
written
as
an
easement
into
the
needs
and
recorded
in
the
registry.
In
effect
that
second
property
owner
would
have
sold
to
the
first
prophet
owner
rights
associated
with
the
second
property
and
then
to
be
recorded
at
the
rates.
Well,.
A
A
E
That
we
passed
us
based
on
the
wording
of
this
ordinance,
which
was
each
dwelling
unit,
shall
be
provided
with
it
doesn't
say
where
you're
going
to
get
it
from
the
same
thing
would
see
each
dwelling
unit
shall
be
provided.
You
know
like
they're,
provided
with
it
according
to
what
he
said
it
doesn't
say
in
here.
It
has
to
be
part
and
parcel
of
the.
E
C
I
would,
I
would
say
that
see:
each
dwelling
shall
be
provided
one
off
street
parking
space
separate
from
customer
parking
right.
The
way
I
would
interpret
that
is
is
that
the
obligation
is
on
the
owner,
the
landowner
to
provide
parking
spaces
correct.
We
come
on
private
property
off
street
to
me
a
case
that
it's
private
property,
though
they're
not
going
to
be
able
to
extend
the.
H
Intent
of
Russia
put
the
Glacial
River
supplies
right.
There's,
wiggle,
public
parking
or
off
street
parking
off
street
parking
to
me
is
personal.
Public
parking
is
what
we
have
it.
You
know
more
falls
off.
Mall
hash
drop,
that's
public
park.
If
there's
a
definition
for
you,
there's
no
we've
met
several
a
start.
We
have
definition,
but
here
it
says
under
see
it
says
off
street
parking
off
street
separate
from.
H
J
Steve
Michelle's
comments
a
second
ago
justifies
why
the
boy
did
what
the
board
did.
I
think
what
Michelle
brought
up
again
just
helps
too.
They
make
the
point
that
much
stronger,
that
the
ordinance
needs
to
be
more
specific
you're
right
needs
to
be
rewritten
right,
but
I
think
if
I
think
what
the
board
it
done,
they
made
a
decision
that
okay,
someone's
going
to
make
me
you
can
park
up
at
some
place
of
my
sweetness
creed
or
fitted
driver
I
could.
I
C
Ordinance
makes
that
work
for
our
downtown
and
I'll
interject
that
the
definition
of
a
parking
space
in
our
code-
it's
here
it
says
an
area
on
a
lot
now.
I
would
read
that
to
mean
on
a
privately
owned
piece
of
property,
on
a
lot
intended
for
the
use
of
temporary
parking
on
personal
vehicle
period,
the
size
of
each
park,
space
to
exclusive
of
drives
or
miles
for
the
parking
of
vehicles
and
have
a
means
of
access
to
a
public
street.
C
So
those
two
sentences
tell
me
that
a
parking
space
by
our
code
is
defined
as
a
piece
of
the
property
on
a
privately
owned
lot
that
is
designated
for
putting
a
vehicle
and
that
the
vehicle
has
to
have
access
through
aisles
and
lanes
and
other
whatever,
whatever
means
of
ingress
and
egress
are
provided
to
a
public
street.
So
that
means
to
me
that
you
can't
designate
a
public
parking
space
as
satisfying
the
requirement
of
a
parking
space
if
a
parking
space
is
required
by
code.
C
E
It
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
make
it
stricter.
That's
the
thing
it's
where's,
the
need
I
mean
right,
I
mean
maybe
the
parking
thing
we'll
start
here,
but
from
what
I
it's
dead
Jim,
you
know
what
I
mean
like
there's.
We
can
restrict
how
it
how
it
goes
or
make
it
fit
what
we
want
careful
to
look
like,
but
as
far
as
making
it
stricter
that
not
might
not
be
the
way
to
go.
I
agree.
E
H
Mean
now
saying
that
we
need
to
boot
everybody
everybody
else
living
upstairs
or
whatever
places
are
living
down
there.
No,
but
we
need
to
make
sure
that
it
works
and
right
now
it
doesn't
well.
You
say
it
does
well
I
mean
the
tenants
are
happy
well
well
defined,
happy
place
department
at
your
expense.
That's
sure.
H
C
C
This
is
just
a
continuation
of
the
discussion
about
how
we
can
rework
our
chapter
13
code
and
improve
it,
and
certainly
if
we
have
mixed
use
as
a
desire
for
the
downtown
area,
then
we
need
to
figure
out
what
the
formula
is
for
providing
the
opportunity
for
residential
units
that
may
or
may
not
have
as
part
of
their
approval
a
requirement
for
an
off
street
parking
space.
And
if
we
do
that
than
by
by
doing
that,
we
would
not
be
giving
them
permission
to
have
a
parking
space
dedicated
to
their
use.
C
There's
a
public
parking
lot
and
they
can
park
in
a
public
parking
lot.
So
it's
kind
of
land
of
both
ways
but
street
rule
by
having
a
public
parking
lot,
we're
taking
on
the
obligation,
the
city
to
maintain
that
and
have
it
be
open
and
accessible
to
anyone
who
wants
to
use
it
we're
not
going
to
try
to
differentiate
between
a
customer
for
retail
establishment
or
someone
living
in
an
apartment
over
that
retail
establishment.
C
Once
we
reach
the
problem
and
I,
don't
know
that
we
have
once
we
reach
the
problem
where
all
of
a
sudden,
we
don't
have
enough
parking
spaces
to
satisfy
everyone's
need,
and
the
parking
is
now
encroaching
on
the
neighborhood
streets
adjacent
to
the
area,
which
is
what
you
see
in
a
lot
of
communities,
particularly
that
have
universities
where
the
universities
have
kids
and
want
to
park
their
vehicles.
They
don't
have
parking
spaces,
they
start
spreading
out
into
the
neighborhoods.
C
A
A
A
C
I
agree
and
I'll
see
if
we
can
find
Planning
Board
minutes
that
reflect
language
associated
with
any
conditions
at
the
time
that
room
so
I
seem
to
recall
that
I've
been
down
this
particular
rabbit
hole
before
as
a
result
of
someone's
making
a
request
for
a
City
Council
discussion
of
the
parking
downtown
and
I.
Don't
recall
finding
anything
that,
but
maybe
it's
a
different
topic.
Is
it
a
different
topic.
G
C
K
G
C
Stuff
so
sure
my
goal
is
always
to
try
to
get
them
out
of
the
week
before
you
know
either
a
wednesday
thursday
or
friday
as
a
week
before
the
meeting,
and
there
are
times
when
we've
had
to
do
that-
to
meet
statutory
requirements
for
other
mailings
and
all
that,
but
yeah
this
this
time
it
didn't
have
a
chart
yeah.
I
do
my
best
yeah.