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From YouTube: The March 4, 2015 Caribou Planning Board Meeting
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Minutes and Agendas for the Planning Board can be found here: http://www.cariboumaine.org/index.php/government/boards-and-commissions/planning-board/planning-board-minutes-and-agendas/
A
C
Sure
my
name
is
eric
bechtel
and
I
live
at
24
russ
street.
I
got
a
notice
there
about
about
this
hearing
because
I'm
I
live
within
500
feet
of
seven
rust
street.
I
guess
I
have
some
concerns.
I
I've
been
here
before
it's
been
a
few
years.
Amhc
had
made
a
proposal
several
times
over
to
have
a
residential
facility
at
this
location.
C
I
guess
I
was
a
little
curious
why
this
is
going
before
the
board
to
begin
with,
since
it's
a
commercial
zone,
the
end
of
rust
street
and
it's
a
single
family
dwelling
adding
on
I,
I
guess
you
know
looking
at
the
land
use
tables.
I
was
wondering
wondering
about
that.
I
guess
that
was
my
first
question
I
and
I'm
kind
of
curious
about
what
facilities
inc
is
and
what
type
of
residential
facility
this
is
going
to
entail.
C
D
Know
the
first
part
of
that
question:
residential
dwelling
is
allowed
in
c2
zone
with
planning
board
approval,
so
facilities
inc
has
filled
out
the
site,
design
application,
and
that
comes
before
the
planning
board
for
their
review
public
hearing
public
comment
and
if
the
planning
board
were
to
approve
it,
it
would
be
allowed
based
on
the
approval.
Okay,.
A
You
you
mentioned
that
arose.
Mental
health
previously
had
wanted
to
put
in
some
apartments,
and
I
don't
know
if,
if
the
tenant
that
they
would
have
had
would
have
been
a
special
needs
person
or
anything
as
opposed
to
what
facilities
inc
is
envisioning
has
there
been
any
discussion?
Is
this
for
general
public
occupancy.
A
C
D
D
C
C
You
know,
maybe
you
can.
You
know,
explain
a
little
bit
more
about
facilities
inc.
I
I
was
just
looking
at
the
facilities,
inc
and
and
and
the
mission
statement,
and
it
talks
about.
You
know
that
it
provides
people
with
low
income
and
behavioral
impairment.
You
know
safe
and
affordable
residential
housing
and
work
sites.
C
You
know,
and
I
I
was
trying
to
find
out
what
behavioral
impairment
was,
and
you
know
I
was
booking
and
I
maybe
someone
can
correct
me
if
I'm
if
I'm
wrong,
but
you
know,
according
to
a
dhhs,
you
know
behavioral
impairment.
Well,
I
found
the
criteria
that
they
use
to
determine
what
behavioral
impairment
is
some
of
the
the
criteria
they
use
is
wandering.
You
know
moving
around
with
no
rational
purpose,
seemingly
oblivious
to
needs
of
safety.
Verbal
abuse,
others
were
threatened,
screamed
at
cursed
at
physical
abuse.
C
Others
were
hitch,
scratched,
sexually
abused,
socially
inappropriate,
behavior
made
disruptive
sounds
noisy,
screaming,
self-abusive
acts,
sexual
behavior
or
disrobing
in
public
smearing,
throwing
food
feces
hoarding
rummaging
through
other
people's
belongings
and
resisting
care
resistant,
taking
medications,
injections
eating
that
sort
of
thing
and
based
upon
those
criteria.
You
know,
depending
on
how
well
someone
rates
that
what
they
determine
if
they
qualify
for
being
considered,
behaviorally
impaired-
and
I
guess
you
know,
being
a
father
of
three
young
children
in
a
residential
neighborhood.
I
have
concerns
about
you
know
my
wife,
my
children,
walking
in
the
neighborhood.
C
B
I'm
confused
austin
about
what's
allowed
and
what's
not
in
paragraph
one
in
your
memo
to
us,
you
say
that
single-family
dwelling
is
not
allowed.
I
understand
your
interpretation
of
that
to
mean
a
standalone
house
right
about
two
family,
multi-family
or
third
story
is
allowed.
Now
we
get
down
into
section
a
conformance
with
a
comprehensive
plan
which
was
just
approved
by
us
and
by
city
council.
B
I
found
a
contradiction
there.
It's
because
it
says
in
order
to
protect
the
integrity
of
the
commercial
zone,
residential
dwelling
units
without
defining
what
they
are
are
not
allowed.
On
the
first
floor,
street
level
of
buildings
in
the
commercial
zone
accessory
and
incidental
residential
units
may
be
developed
on
floors
other
than
the
first
floor.
D
I
certainly
understand
that,
and
you
might
have
some
good
concerns.
This
is
one
of
those
tough
situations
where
the
comprehensive
plan
has
been
updated
and
we're
working
through
the
chapter.
13
zoning
ordinance
rewrite.
So
this
is
one
of
those
types
of
issues
that
would
be
addressed
as
we
get
further
into
the
rewriting
of
chapter
13..
B
G
E
F
G
D
Right
so
the
each
and
I'm
not
entirely
positive,
where
this
comes
from
the
apartment's
accessory
to
commercial
use.
Each
dwelling
should
provide
a
private
space,
500
square
feet,
minimum
per
dwelling
unit
adjacent
to
each
unit
off
street
parking,
sub-surface
wastewater
and
then
the
all
the
provisions
of
this,
the
building
codes
and
everything
life
safety
and
all
that
would
have
to
be
met
as
well
as
for
the
accessory
use.
G
E
A
E
E
E
That's
part
of
our
clientele.
We
also
have
just
regular
families
that
you
know
they
may
be
receiving
mental
health
services,
but
it
could
be
someone
that's
just
suffering
from
depression
or
you
know
we
don't.
We
don't
always
know
what
their.
What
their
issue
is.
We're
the
landlord
amhc
takes
care
of
the
clients.
E
E
E
You
know
amhc
did
rent
the
building
one
time
they
they
moved
to
another
another
building
in
town
that
better
suited
them,
so
we
were
left
with
an
empty
building,
so
we've
moved
our
office
there
and
we're
hoping
to
rent
the
other
side
commercially,
but
it's
just
not
viable
there
is.
There
is
no
non-profits
that
I
can
find
and
care
about
that
are
interested
in
it.
H
If,
if
we
were
to
take
action
on
site
redesign
review
based
on
a
concern
that
the
occupants
might
have
some
kind
of
disability
take
action,
one
way
or
the
other,
I
think
we
get
in
a
lot
of
trouble
and
we've
got
a
nuisance
property
ordinance.
We've
got
a
police
department
and
we've
got
all
kinds
of
different
standards
that
might
control
somebody's
conduct
once
they
get
in
there.
H
A
E
A
I
You
know
if
it
was
for
me
if
it
was
a
business
and
then
the
residential
residential
part
of
that
business
was
going
to
be
inhabited
by
the
owner
of
the
business.
It
would
seem
more
feasible
to
have
it
in
in
a
c2.
But
if
it's
going
to
be
an
office
and
then
another
apartment
building
and
it's
in
a
c2
zone,
I
don't
think
it
falls
underneath
our
descriptions
thereof
for
what
we
have
and
or
what
we're
looking
to
go
forwards
too.
D
A
I'm
wondering
if
this
is
something
that
we
could
postpone
pending
advice
from
the
maine
municipal
association,
if
this
should
be
brought
to
the
main
municipal
or
or
the
city
attorney,
but
I
mean
all
of
us
who
are
on
this
board
have
been
here,
for
you
know
a
couple
of
years
and
don't
have
a
whole
lot
of
depth
behind
us
and
I'm
almost
thinking.
This
is
something
we
might
want
to
lean
on
some
experts
to
guide
us.
B
B
H
D
D
G
E
A
I
I
I
thought
of
that.
Also
in
that,
because
I
I
know
that
this
isn't
technically
a
private
residence,
but
it
is
going
to
be
a
single
family
occupying
the
residential
portion
of
this
building,
and
I
was
thinking
to
myself
that
the
applicant
would
have
a
better
chance
if
they
converted
the
building
into
two
apartments,
then
into
one
apartment.
A
H
H
E
E
B
E
D
A
D
B
B
H
C
Yeah
go
ahead,
which
was
my
my
first
inclination
wondering
why
this
was
going
before
the
board
again
amhc.
You
know,
I
think
three
times
went
before
well
the
planning
board.
It
was
shot
down
two
times
and
then
third
time
they
had,
mr
bennett
come
and-
and
it
was
tenderly
approved
by
the
the
planning
board,
and
I
don't
know
what
exactly
happened,
but
the
neuro
rehab
facility
went
in
there
instead
of
the
facility,
but
I
regarding
the
site,
design
review.
I
guess
I
had
questions
as
far
as
under
section.
C
C
I
think
if
my
neighbors
knew
what
you
know,
the
mission
statement
and
facilities
inc
is
and
a
lot
of
their
clientele,
which
I
think
is
telling
by
you
know
your
interest
in
the
the
nuisance
ordinance
and
you
know
how
how
you
were
concerned
that
you
know
that
the
landlords
would
be
penalized
for
tenants
behavior.
I
mean
I
think
that.
A
G
H
B
C
D
D
D
J
J
J
B
D
D
The
mobile
home
ordinance
is
on
the
following
pages.
I
want
to
thank
the
members
of
the
planning
board
once
again
that
we're
on
that
the
members
of
the
community
that
were
on
that
the
ordinance
repeals
the
current
ordinance
that
has
a
number
of
requirements,
including
dimensional
requirements,
road
design,
utility
requirements,
lightings
removal
and
more
for
the
most
part.
This
ordinance
requires
construction,
be
done
according
to
the
state
standards.
It
requires
a
list
of
mobile
homes
presented
to
the
assessor
by
april
15th
of
each
year.
D
That
will
be
helpful
in
the
assessing
process
to
help
the
city
keep
track.
Last
month,
the
board
did
have
a
question
on
the
metal
roofing
issue.
We
discussed
that
I
talked
with
the
the
state
agency
they're,
certainly
okay,
with
the
metal
roofs
that
we
have
today
that
are
common
on
on
homes.
This
definition
was
more
to
not
allow
metal
that
would
typically
be
seen
on
barns,
or
was
that
type
of.
D
D
A
A
B
G
H
F
F
J
D
A
A
A
A
D
And
the
establishments
of
the
districts,
the
zoning
districts-
is
a
conversation
that
I
I
didn't
touch
on
in
here.
I
wanted
to
have
this
with
the
defining
boards,
as
I
was
not
involved
with
the
comprehensive
plan
and
the
thoughts
as
to
how
to
move
forward
with
you
know,
decreasing
the
number
of
zones
or
combining
them.
So
I
I
was
going
to
turn
to
the
planning
board
for
a
little
bit
of
guidance
as
to
how.
I
G
D
F
G
D
A
A
J
Might
be
the
light
industrial,
and
so
it
might
be
heavier
because
they
naturally
need
something.
That's
going
to
be
noisier
than
the
dickens,
probably
further
away
from
your
residential
elements
or
anything
like
that
where
it
would
cause
a
disturbance
and
then
the
light
industrial
stuff
could
be
closer.
A
A
G
D
J
A
But
when
I'm
looking
at
that
map-
and
I'm
asking
myself
okay,
you
know
what
guidelines
are
we
going
to
use
to
determine?
What's
an
i1
versus
an
i2,
or
maybe
maybe
others
of
you
have
a
clear
vision
that
I
don't
I
mean
I
tend
to
lump
them
both
together.
But
if
the
majority
of
you
want
to
keep
two
separate,
then
let's
keep
two
separate.
D
F
I
B
I
I
D
I
H
F
I
A
A
I
don't
know
if
there
is
a
way
to
what
was
the
phrase
you
used:
multi
multi-use
multi-use,
because
when
I
look
at
the
i2,
which
is
overlaid
on
the
airport
I
mean
20
years
ago,
I
I
asked
the
city.
I
asked
the
code
enforcement
officer
if
we
could
do
an
airport
community
and
he
never
heard
of
such,
which
you
know
an
airport
community
is
where
you
have
residential
streets
and
the
street
is
literally
a
taxiway
to
the
runway.
A
A
A
The
I,
the
industrial
zoning
kills
that
because
you
know,
but
then,
if
there's
a
way
to
make
it
malty
from
the
point
of
view
of
okay,
first
come
first
serve.
If
somebody
wants
to
put
up
a
street
well,
we'll
make
the
zoning
residential.
If,
if
somebody
wants
to
put
up
a
potato
plant
well,
then
I
guess
it's
going
to
be
industrial
and
the
other
isn't
going
to
happen.
You
know
what
I'm
saying
we
need
to
be
remain
flexible.
B
In
other
towns,
one
of
the
town
where
I
served
people
who
wanted
to
work
with
a
particular
piece
of
property
that
was
owned,
a
certain
way
would
come
in
with
a
proposal
for
town
meeting
to
change
the
zone
to
change
the
zone,
okay
and
that
would
either
get
approved
or
not
approved
by
child
meeting.
In
this
case,
it
would
be
city
council,
with
planning
board
advice,
yeah,
you
talking.
B
J
A
A
D
And
another
thing
that
I
want
to
bring
up
that
we
shouldn't
lose
sight
of
is
even
though
these
are
the
definitions.
We
also
have
the
land
use
table
that
everybody's
just
looking
at
in
204.
That
says
what
is
and
is
not
allowed
in
these
districts,
so
the
definitions
are
kind
of
general
speak
where
the
land
use
table
says
this
is
allowed.
This
is
not
allowed.
This
is
a
lot
of
planning
board
approval
or
code
enforcement
officer
can
approve
it,
so
it
they
go
hand
in
hand.
J
Because
you
keep
changing
the
little
things
to
accommodate
this,
that
and
the
other
thing
when
you
have
an
area
for
it
already
and
I
think
that's
part
of
the
definition
of
the
comprehensive
plan.
If
you
define
your
country
as
a
plan
that
this
is
where
you
want
that
particular
growth,
then
you
should
try
and
stick
with
it.
So
you're
not
hodging
all
over
the
community.
B
H
There's
some
language
on
it'd
be
on
page
38
of
the
handout
under
the
subsection,
where
they
talk
about
when
you're
changing
from
one
non-conforming
youth
to
the
other,
and
that
implicates
that
an
actual
board
of
appeals.
But
it
talks
about,
I
assume,
a
case-by-case
consideration
of
like
in
non-conforming
or
conforming
whatever.
How
consistent
in
general
is
it
with,
I
think
you
know,
say
the
neighborhood.
H
I
think
you
you'd
end
up
dealing
with
everything
on
a
case-by-case
basis
that
way,
but
we
don't
have
that
many
cases
come
through
here
in
those
tables
where
it
just
says.
Yes,
no
cb.
That's
really
putative,
you
know,
if
you
just
don't
it's
no,
and
I
gotta
change
the
law
to
get
around
it
when
the
use
might
be
completely
consistent
with
your
neighbor's
non-conforming
use,
and
this
neighbor
is
not
and
that
neighbor
is
not
but
you're.
Just
a
new
guy
in
the
area.
H
I
think
the
tables
I
I
mean
I
get
why
there's
a
table
there,
but
it
seems
to
tie
your
hands.
Probably
it
probably.
You
know
I
guess,
if
you're
looking
to
restrict
things,
the
table
will
be
really
useful,
but
if
you're
looking
to
be
able
to
make,
you
know
have
some
flexible
decision
making.
I
don't.
I
don't
think
it's
that
I
think
it
does
more
harm
than
good.
You
know
just.
J
If,
for
instance,
I
you
want
to
allow
me
to
put
a
residential
facility
in
a
c2
okay
and
you
have
a
contract
and
then
that
that
particular
non-conforming
use
is
allowed
there
for
that
purpose.
So
when
that
use
is
done,
it's
done.
It
goes
back
to
what
it
was
reverts
back
to
commercial
as
an
example
or
commercial
residential.
J
A
Isn't
that
similar
to
somebody
wanting
to
put
a
beauty
shop
in
their
house
and
it
it
only
applies
to
the
applicant.
It
does
not
carry
forward
to
the
next
person
who
buys
that
building.
That's
a
home
occupation
right,
but
it's
the
same
concept
that
you
know
you
were
given:
a
variance
which
is
limited
to
you
and
only.
A
F
J
A
J
G
J
A
A
D
D
They
don't
want
to.
You
know,
have
to
wait
for
a
month
or
two
months
to
get
a
planning
board
approval
and
public
hearings,
and
that
type
of
thing,
so
there
needs
to
be
certain
things
in
there
that
are
code
enforcement
approval,
but
that's
the
tough
part
of
trying
to
to
be
flexible
by
growing
in
a
smart
and
forward-looking
man.
H
When
I
think
about
like
where
my,
where
my
office
is
situated,
there's
like
seven
single-family
homes
in
a
row
that
are
all
non-conforming
within
a
commercial
district
in
mine's,
now
a
conforming
use,
but
if
you
took
a
sign
down
just
like
a
single-family
home
so
like
I'm
not
going
anywhere,
so
I
don't
need
to
worry
about.
But
if
I
wanted
to
sell
it,
I
can
only
sell
it
to
somebody
who's
going
to
use
it
commercially.
H
Even
though
I
mean
you
just
it's
a
single
family
home,
it's
like
it's
totally
consistent
with
the
character
of
the
neighborhood
it's
in,
but
the
neighborhood
itself
is
non-conforming
and-
and
you
there's
nothing,
there's
no
way
in
the
code
to
get
around
that
or
to
permit
that
you'd
have
to
hope
somebody's.
Looking
the
other
way
you
know,
but
and
there's
a
few.
A
few
different
places
in
caribou
like
like
the
south
main
street,
would
be
kind
of
kind
of
like
that.
Right.
D
A
A
B
F
A
A
A
D
A
D
I
I
don't
disagree
with
that.
That
would
be
a
one
way
to
do
it
moving
forward,
but
currently
that's
not
how
it
is.
It
looks
to
me
like
it
was
a
when
this
got
copy
and
pasted
for
the
counter
for
the
playing
board
packet,
that
it
got
shifted
over
into
look
appearing
as
if
it's
separate
districts,
but
in
the
current
coordinates
it
does
not.
A
A
What
what
also
the
the
fact
that
the
opening
paragraph
says
for
purposes
of
this
ordinance
cable
has
two
special
protection:
overlay
districts
yeah.
You
know
sand
and
gravel
and
then
the
wellhead
okay.
And
so
you
read
about
those
two
I
can
see
where
everything
after
the
wellhead
is
supposed
to
come
in
under
the
wellhead,
as
opposed
to.
B
G
B
F
B
D
D
Right
so
we'll
bring
back
more
definitions
and,
okay,
the
I
think,
once
we
get,
the
definitions
hammered
out
a
little
bit
more.
That
will
start
to
be
where
we
can
play
with.
What
do
we
want?
Where
what
do
we
want
to
add
for
mixed-use
zones?
That
type
of
thing
so
I'll
bring
examples
of
mixed-use
ones
as
well.
A
A
D
A
vacancy
may
be
declared
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upon
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or
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or
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