Carroll County, MD Board of County Commissioners Open Sessions, 2 Sep 2021

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September, 2nd 2021 wow um lots happening and, uh as always, we are going to.

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Stand for our pledge of allegiance and take a moment of silence, I ask.

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Continue to keep those that are in harm's way, uh whether it be in afghanistan or from.

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Hurricane ida and the aftermath to keeping our uh friend and colleague, mayor rockenberg in your.

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Thoughts and prayers and give uh you know, strength and courage to the family and town of mount airy.

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May his memory always be a blessing at this time, so with that, let's stand.

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Okay, as I shared uh lots happening before we jump into our individual priority carol,.

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um I would like to highlight the fact that it has been a loss to carroll county and to.

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The town of mount airy with the passing of mayor rockenberg earlier this week.

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And he has been with us and the community for quite some time so again uh wishing his memory.

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Always be a blessing to family and friends of both carroll county and mount airy. And if I.

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Can kind of go down? I think commissioner boucher, if you'd like to share some thoughts and also, if.

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We don't know if we have somebody on the line or not. Let us know. Thank you, commissioner.

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And I really appreciate those sincere words for mayor pat as he was affectionately referred to.

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I've had the honor and privilege of working with mayor pat for the last three three and a half.

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Years so to speak, and I will state that he was always passionate about his town, his people and.

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Even though there was contentious issues, he always found consensus, he brought people together to heal.

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Them he was there during the covid epidemic and all the policies and procedures, and he maintained.

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Integrity, he made open communication for everyone. He brought people together in picnic environments.

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I had to work with them most recently on the harrison leisure property controversy and he.

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Was an impeccable gentleman in how he handled the concerns of his constituents on such a.

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Controversial issue and in a way I'll state that he helped mentor me in that community because.

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As the mayor to town, he had a much greater grasp and understanding of the constituents than I did.

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And I'm humbled and honored to have worked with him, and I wish him eternal peace and.

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Peace to his family, thank you, mayor, rockenberg and god bless you, okay, um commissioner. Fraser.

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It's just, I guess, a very, very sad moon for carroll county. He was mayor for a long time.

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From my perspective- and I don't live in mount airy or anything, but he did a fantastic job.

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And it's just it's just tremendous loss, it really is, but I don't think, there's anything else to say.

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Commissioner, weaver now I'll share your thoughts. Rothenberg he's a good guy, sometimes a good guy.

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Young, so uh sorry to hear that um I do want to make a couple comments here, though, about.

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Other priority carols now no we'll get into that literally okay,.

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Say you know, working with, uh like I said, mayor pat was great. I talked to him many times in mount airy.

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We do quite a bit of business over there and I'd run into him. We always had discussions and.

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As you said, always just a nice person easy to deal with and we talk about county issues and.

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And call each other if there was an issue on things and we we need to talk about so this was.

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Sad loss, okay and commissioner lance so mount airy. Mount airy is uh an interesting place. uh Let's be.

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Clear it is, uh there are four counties in mount airy and uh it's always been very interesting to.

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See the perspective of how the folks are there and how they operate down there, and you know I've.

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Said oftentimes that carroll county is is amazing when it comes to how different we are from one end.

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To the other, based upon the fact that we're a pretty small county um mayor pat, had that.

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Knack of of knowing just how to balance that uh in the in emergency services, I talked with him often.

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About the fact that you know frederick county was in mount airy, more than mount airy was in mount.

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Airy or howard county was in there, montgomery county was in there uh during covid. When I had.

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The honor, I guess it's still an honor, not sure after getting yelled at for the last two years, but.

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uh When I led this board through uh the that, that is that challenge that we're still in by the way.

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Most of you remember that one of our first major issues here in the county.

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Was the nursing home in mount airy mayor pat, was on the phone with me right away.

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He had he had his opinions. We also during that time conducted.

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Conference calls with all of the mayors to ensure that everybody was.

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On the same page here, he truly appreciated that uh he was just an incredibly personable guy.

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Whether he agreed or disagreed with you in the end, unlike a lot of people today, he agreed to disagree.

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And there are a lot of folks today that don't agree to disagree. All they want to do is disagree.

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Pat was not like that and that's what made him a good leader.

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It's not your way or the highway and there's a lot of highways in mount airy by the way.

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It was, what can we all do together to get the end result that we need to get to.

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And that's what mayor pat could accomplish so uh to to his to his family.

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To everyone to the town of mount airy, because he just recently won another election.

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I say we, you know our deepest sympathies but remember the good things with mayor pat and that's.

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What I tried to do here in my comments, because uh again you know everybody's so angry today,.

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And he he he would get a little angry about things and then he go. You know what grand.

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Scheme of things, I think we can find a way to fix this, and man was that a that. That's a.

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Good way to be life is short. Mayor pat, was only in his 50s. Remember that, ladies and gentlemen,.

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Live every day with integrity and common sense that you should and that's what.

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Mayor rockenberg did so everyone over there, his family and again, the whole town, everyone that.

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He touched his fingerprints will forever be on this county and specifically the southern part.

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Of carroll county, thank you. Okay, very well said um this may be a little clunky and I apologize.

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But I do need to reach out to uh chris swam. uh Do we have neil rupp on the line? I believe we.

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Do have a caller hold on, let me call them out the unmute caller one. Can you identify yourself please.

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Hello caller, please unmute.

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Might be amazing for one you are unmuted. Can you please identify yourself.

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Okay uh technology may be having the best of the individual. Let's um move on to our.

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Priority carol, I appreciate all my colleagues comments and sentiment that was shared regarding.

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Mayor pat rockenberg, um but with priority carol, uh commissioner boucher wanting to leave us off thank.

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You very much it was very touching for you guys to share your appreciation for mary pat mayor paxton,.

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Thank you very much I'll start off by welcoming one two new members of the county, tamron huffman.

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With the road maintenance department and darien reel, building inspector permits welcome aboard.

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Welcome to the county family and we appreciate your dedication to serve the county along with us.

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I want to give a special thanks to our public safety department. We have two members here.

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Director, scott campbell and deputy director valerie hawkins, they have been quite busy.

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They've kept us abreast on all the road closures because of the rain.

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I think there's probably around three dozen road closures and their ems people help people from.

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Being swept up in the water, I know there's a lot of creeks and rivers in my district that.

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Overflow, so I appreciate the service you guys, keeping us posted and protecting our community.

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Mr swan do I have many photos or videos and stuff. I did a tour with commissioner frazier of the.

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Library exploration commons took some photos of that this week. It is an absolutely wonderful.

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Addition to the county, the project here we go when we originally went down there. I think all of us.

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Have went down to a basement thesis have storage of seasonal decorations. Now it's absolutely.

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Phenomenal this investment is going to help seed, entrepreneurial ship and business ventures. They.

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Have meeting rooms conference areas of big screen tvs for meetings? They also have my favorite a.

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Wonderful kitchen and I'd suggested to them that maybe in the future we could do little programs.

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Like cooking with the commissioners where we take turns possibly with uh yeah boy well,.

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Said he'd be willing to sample, eat the food. Here's the kitchen, this kitchen is fine. I.

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Love to eat, I love to cook, so I said that it's possible that maybe we could take turns.

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Maybe get an uh a restaurant tour or a chef or someone from each one of our districts.

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And we can prepare some food and give a little bit of publicity to restaurants in their districts.

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So I'm very much impressed with that, and this is in commissioner frazier's district. He has a lot to.

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Be proud of, I want to give a special thanks to director andrea burssler, the operations.

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Manager, bob koontz and the uh the library director there I believe it's jen, her latest name escapes.

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Me, please forgive me, but they give an absolutely wonderful tour and I appreciate what they've done.

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I also want to mention that the latest barn quilt trail brochure is out thanks to our tourism.

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Director bonnie staub: this is wonderful for a county people come into our county to tour. These.

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Barn quilts and water running around our county. They visit the stores they visit. The restaurants.

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This is a tremendous addition to the economic development of our county. I want to thank tourism.

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For putting this together, people coming- and here we go, they come in and they spend their money in.

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Our county and that's what we love so thank you very much bonnie for all you're doing to help.

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The county out and if anyone lives, locally, pick up or go online and go toward these places. The.

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Farmers are very proud of what they're doing in promoting the county. So thank you very much.

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Okay, thanks: that's pretty cool uh display thanks chris for sharing that.

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Commissioner weaver uh just to piggyback on the bar and quelch, you know he started in ohio.

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In the 1990s and they went up through canada as popular areas that people displayed what their.

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Old barn was about, they actually designed their logo. These aren't the hex symbols that we uh mix.

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Up sometimes with the uh amish mennonite uh group, but these are have something about the symbol.

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That uh deals with uh uh that barn or that family and what they're doing so. I think this.

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Is what 40 some of them in the county and if you go around the whole tour um they're.

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Everywhere in the county now are popping up and if you have an interest in getting one.

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Bonnie staub in tourism uh has a list as they get funds available. They kind of uh have them.

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Designed and put up in uh 39 39, okay, I know we were right at that level on that.

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Well, first of all, uh I want to pick it back. Commissioner, wants everybody's so angry today,.

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And you're right, I had a attended emergency meeting in the board of education. The other.

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Day monday- and they were talking about mass, but I saw so much anger, both ways and so many comments.

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What's going on, I mean in this country, I think we have to start coming together and look at what's.

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What's good for everybody, not just individuals out here and get over the anger and what's going on.

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With your individual ideology or whatever, we have to start looking at what is best for all people.

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And I'm just totally amazed at the start of that meeting some gentlemen in the back shouted they.

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Had to be removed in front of his wife and little kids, and that is wrong as far as I'm concerned and.

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We just have to get over this anger and start coming together to get through this issue that.

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We have and steve you're right on that uh we are a very angry country, all of a sudden and somewhat.

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Deserved I mean we have a lot of things on us pulling out of uh afghanistan. The you know the way.

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That some of the the uh controversy over how it's handled uh ida yesterday, coming up and by the way.

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Carroll county dodged, a big bullet, we were very lucky some flooding. We didn't have major issues.

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But here again the anxiety people have over all this all over. All these issues builds up.

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And we get to have an angry society from it and I hope we can take labor day here.

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uh Look through this and come back with a little different attitude here after labor day.

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And by the way, if you want to a way to change your attitude, attend the maryland state, fair.

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That goes on through monday, and it's running this week, so any take your family enjoy some.

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Time at the maryland state fair and come back after this, hopefully with a.

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Different outlook on life get some of that delicious healthy food. They serve delicious.

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Thank you, commissioner. Lance. Oh hi, it's on you, okay uh good morning, everyone uh well said.

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Dick I'm right there with you, uh we did dodge a bullet yesterday. It could have been a lot worse.

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When I saw the when I saw the tornado that went down solomon's island highway and took a left on.

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West street, in annapolis, I'm like good grief. Those things seem to be. They have their own directions.

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Maybe we'll have to look at that a little further about at some point. I don't know.

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They have gps yeah, they got gps on those things anyway, uh everyone seemed to use common sense.

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Yesterday, most folks get the message that it looks like standing: water don't drive in it.

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Very minimal call count yesterday for for our our fire companies so most of them. I.

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Believe were routine a couple, but most was the routine stuff. So thank you to all the.

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Citizens as well that paid attention yesterday, I certainly do appreciate that um on that note,.

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Just a reminder we'll be here next week as well, but uh september 11th is, is fast approaching.

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There are many ceremonies that are being held next saturday, uh one of the big ones, uh they're all big.

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Let's be clear, it is the 20. I don't like to use the word anniversary when we talk about this, but.

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It's the 20th year since that occurred. Let's put it that way. um Anniversary always sounds like.

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A celebration to me: I never really like that, but anyway uh cc visa. Our volunteer emergency.

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Service association always has a really nice ceremony. It would be wonderful to see.

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Some of the public there other than folks in uniform, so that starts at 8 30 at our uh fabulous.

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Public safety training center- several of us will be there. Several of us will be saying a few words.

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Emphasis on a few words, um I'm looking at you a few words, I only say a few words.

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About the pedal being black kidding me so anyway, uh there's another one at the bfw right, dick that.

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You're speaking out at noon, I believe uh tawny town's having one at 8 30 at the memorial park, so.

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Take a look around maybe take a moment since it's been 20 years with the anger thing in place.

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To remember what occurred there and why we are able to do what we can do here um and and maybe.

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Go to one of those ceremonies and pay tribute to the folks that sacrificed that day for all of us.

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That would be a great way to maybe get out of this folk that everybody seems to be in to want.

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To scream at everybody all the time I'll get off my high horse on that um great planning and zoning.

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Meeting last night that I attended really good debate, we'll hear more of that. That's coming.

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Shortly because it'll be at our level now this the next juncture- and I want to thank the folks there.

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They're doing an amazing job. Remember that groups like that really set the tone for the.

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Future of this county- it's not just on us! It's on the folks that we put on those committees.

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So they're doing a great job, so I want to thank them for that and um I think at this.

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Point: that's it. If I forgot something all you know me yeah trust me. We do okay, commissioner frazier.

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Well, I don't have much left to say here, but I was at the exploration commons. It looks great.

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I will say it's going to be a tremendous draw for westminster and carroll county because what they.

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Have in there- and it was said when we were there, there's less than uh six libraries throughout the.

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Country, that's going to have everything that that library will have down here. It's just.

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It's really nice and they might even have it would have had it done by now. If they had to.

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Steal they're still waiting for some structural steel to put some put some things in and let's.

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Face it when you need structural steel, you need structural steel, so you have to wait for that.

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To come in before they could open up, everything would be safe, but I can't wait for that to happen.

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And one additional thing about the we we kind of did dodge a bullet, but we did have a lot of high.

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Winds and a lot of rain yesterday, so maybe if you have a neighbor, you haven't seen out check.

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My neighbor make sure you see if they need any help. I'm not just saying this because my house.

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Is partially damaged, but if you want to cover my house, but if you want to clean up there might be.

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Somebody might a little bit of help cleaning up and stuff like that, but just look out for your.

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Neighbors and that's all I have okay, I appreciate it and um sticking with the the same sentiment. I.

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Mean we may disagree on lots of things up here and elsewhere, but we care about each other and.

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Our community and our neighbors and that's why we're doing what we're doing same thing with the.

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Planning and zoning commission they're doing it because they care. um So if this is the plug, if.

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You want to participate in one of the commissions councils. You know, organizations that support our.

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Community, let us know which dovetails into the challenges we have still with social media. There's.

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A lot of things still being said on social media that it's so much easier. If you pick up the phone.

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Or text or email, as opposed to blatantly you know, call things out, and uh you know I will not go back.

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And forth on social media, but I will always share my email and my contact information.

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Saying reach out and let's have that conversation I may not agree or you may not agree, but it's.

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Important to build that dialogue and keep that dialogue going for the good of our community.

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Kevin 19 is still with us. We're talking a lot. We haven't talked a lot about it. uh We're still.

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Pushing the vaccinations across the county and across the state um it's not about herd me.

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Herd whatever it's called it's about getting vaccinated, um it's about doing the best we can.

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Mentioned afghanistan it's hard and for all of our veterans that are out there to include me.

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I continue to remind myself that the work I did in afghanistan was not done in vain and it was done.

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For the right reasons, but when you give a year plus or a couple years in a place where you're.

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Told to be it's kind of challenging, so you know you see a veteran just remind yourself and remind.

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Them just to say thank you, a lot of them wearing those hats. You know shown that they've served.

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I appreciate the comments about 9 11.. We were embedded in here one time and we we need to be.

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Steadfast and stand strong and uh I look forward to uh participating in uh the remembrance and the.

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Meaning of 9 11. um and for me personally and those that are out there uh wishing everybody.

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Leshinatova chikatevu or uh happy roshi china, or have a good new year, which will be um on tuesday.

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And again, it's a way for me to refresh and remind myself that.

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We screw up during the year, and I mean that's just the facts.

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This is the time to say: hey man, I screwed up, and these are things I want to do better.

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And then think about it and reflect and then say I'm going to commit myself to trying to do better.

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You know in a nutshell: that's what you know: rosh hashanah is about so uh with that what I would.

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Like to do is reach back out to chris swamp, see. If somebody is on um that, I think they should.

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Be chris, uh can you see if uh neil rupe is on by chance caller two? Can you please identify yourself.

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Neil wrote: okay neil, I appreciate it's, commissioner, ed rothstein.

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We had the opportunity a few minutes ago. Don't know if you watched or not to.

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Share our thoughts about mayor pat and uh like to turn it over to you. If you'd like to share a few.

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Thoughts of your own, I greatly appreciate that pat I was able to work with him for many years.

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We got a lot closer through coved 19. If there's any positive things. That was one of the things all.

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The mayors got together on a regular basis, mayor pat, to begin with love the town of.

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Mount airy and the people and dorm cove at 19. He was concerned about everything whether it was.

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The people's health, but one of the things that really stood out was the caring that he had in.

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The thought process that he was extremely creative in thinking of the pop-up seating for restaurants.

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He was really concerned about his businesses and the restaurants that were being affected. The most.

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And he was trying to think of anything and everything and he would bring that to the table.

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And actually, in new windsor we had a couple tables put up different locations because of his ideas.

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uh He was just a great person, you know great mayor, but a great human being and he touched lives with.

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So many people he touched mine and I'm forever thankful for the time that I shared my life.

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With him- and he shared with his life with me, so I thank you for this opportunity and thank you for.

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Recognizing mayor, pat, okay, neil, thank you so much for those very kind words.

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Let's uh move on to finishing up priority carol and I think we have a proclamation.

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Commissioner wentz, yes, we do mr campbell and ms hawkins. You might want to come forward here.

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September is is always.

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Emergency preparedness month, we always declare that and we have what I consider to be.

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One of if not the best emergency management groups in the state- and I know that for a fact, because.

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I sit in on a lot of the meetings and when I walk in the door, val goes wait a minute.

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What are you doing here? Wait what what are you doing here uh and I watch what occurs in other.

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Counties I see what goes on in in carroll. You all do an amazing job with very limited staff.

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Some of these emergency management staffs in the counties have 75 people working for them. You do.

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An awesome job with the limited amount of staff that you have so to you and everybody down there.

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Thank you very much and scott goes without saying. You know. Over the years I've spent.

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Many waking hours with you, you and I have been to several funerals together and it's my honor.

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Always to have you by my side as my director of public safety when we attend those events.

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So to you and all the folks in your shop as well, we certainly do appreciate that and our citizens.

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Are much better off as a result of all the work that you do so september 2021? Once again, we are.

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Declaring, as the county preparedness month I'll quickly read through this emergency preparedness,.

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Shared responsibility, the entire nation, every jurisdiction, every community, every business, every.

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Family and every individual and having a role in planning and preparing for emergencies and.

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Disasters of all kinds- carroll county preparedness month in coordination with national preparedness.

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Month provides an opportunity to highlight the important role of individuals as they.

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Prepare for emergencies in their homes, businesses, schools and communities. This nationwide observance.

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Encourages all americans to learn more about ways to prepare for all types of emergencies.

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The us department of homeland security and carroll county department of public safety urge all county.

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Residents and business owners to take time during september, 21 2012 20. What is 20 21? Why am I having.

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Trouble saying why are you looking at me? I don't know because I just looked at you for some reason.

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To create an emergency supply kit, I actually have one of those by the way.

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Do you have one I do okay right to make to make a family or business emergency plan to.

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Remain informed about different threats and the appropriate response to each and to get involved.

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In preparing their community for emergencies, uh so we are declaring uh recognizing the.

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Importance of preparing for emergencies and we're proud to observe september 2021 with.

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Appropriate preparedness activities, so we are proclaiming uh preparedness month in carroll.

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uh For september 2021 and I'm going to shut up, hey scott, how you doing I'm doing fine.

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And thank you very much for those kind words and- and I have to say first, I think everything.

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You said and and then some for valerie and her staff, they do an absolute amazing job and I'm.

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Very fortunate to have them on staff, and secondly, I want to say that I consider it.

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An equal honor, despite the sometimes the sad reasons that we gather in other other.

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Locations but it's an honor to be with you and show our respects in that manner. That said,.

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I don't know if valerie has anything she wants to share other than uh from our department. Thank you.

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Very much because a lot of what she's able to we're able to do is because of you folks, giving.

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Us the resources and the ability to do that. So thank you very much for letting us do what we do.

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Yeah absolutely, and thank you for all the kind words. Thank you for the support we certainly.

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Enjoy a high level of support from you as all of the board, and thank you for declaring.

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The month to be carroll county preparedness month, along with national preparedness month, our theme.

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This year, in carroll, county is going to be don't be scared, be prepared anybody who's, familiar with.

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Our uh with our uh office, we have a be prepared: mascot uh he's a b, so b-e-e prepared b-e, prepared.

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To dress up as a b, we have talked about that over the years, but we haven't found anybody to.

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To take that on quite yet um so definitely appreciate the support uh national preparedness.

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Month was launched in 2004 september 2004 uh shortly after the events of september 11th.

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And it's really designed to be that recognition and get some info preparedness. Information for.

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Individuals and families and businesses the businesses piece is important as well. um Everybody.

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Should have that plan? Have a communications plan with your family? Have that emergency supplies kit.

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For your home for your car, possibly for your workplace, there's all sorts of information out.

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There on the internet, all you have to do is do a quick google search or go to ready.gov.

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About what should go into a kit templates for plans for your family, all sorts of things out.

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There that you tools that you can use to help make sure that you and your family are better prepared.

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And then practice your plan, you know creating your plan is important. That's a really good point, but.

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You have to make sure that you practice that you have to make sure that all of your family members.

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Truly know how it's supposed to work and have a chance to practice. Just like we talk about.

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Practicing fire drills. You practice your emergency plan as well, um so to tie into what's happened.

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Certainly, over the past few weeks uh with various disasters, especially tropical storm, hurricane ida,.

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The difference between you know being a little bit more comfortable.

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uh And making it through one of these disasters, uh even a short power outage, we do have some.

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Folks that are still out of power this morning after the tropical storm went through last night.

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um The difference between being a little bit more comfortable and getting through that a little bit.

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Easier with your family is having that preparedness kit having that preparedness plan in.

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Place a little bit of preparedness goes an awfully long way, so definitely appreciate the opportunity.

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To bring a little bit more attention to that. Okay, now I I appreciate it, it's uh deeds, not words.

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And uh I'd say it between commissioner wants and and everybody talking don't take yourself.

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So serious take everything we do very seriously and that's what you do and I appreciate that so.

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Thank you, I think uh a photo opportunity may be in the uh mix. Can I call my hair no yeah matt.

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Yeah, we'll give you.

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Let's talk about adobe software subscription renewal, mr ripper.

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Come on up and who you bring with you, eli, hey one thing I forgot, I told you, I please we got over 18.

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uh Job openings in carroll, if you're looking for a job go on our website man, we got some good jobs.

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Yeah good pay, good benefits and you work for us. What could be better? I mean a fair branch. Twenty.

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Three dollars an hour: okay, you know they get the work, review and right so yeah seriously get the.

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Word out there there's, you know we got some real from from management stuff to to it all points in.

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Between I mean we got all kinds of openings, so go on a website and there it is right there. The.

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Swami brings it up just like that. Okay, sorry mark, that's, okay! He might need some higher ease too.

C

Good morning, the office of procurement, in cooperation with technology services, requests.

L

Your approval to award the purchase of adobe software subscription renewal to dell marketing lp.

L

In the amount of twenty seven thousand three hundred and thirty dollars and ninety five cents.

L

This purchase is being made through the maryland state cots contract, bpo number zero, six, zero b, two.

L

Four: nine: zero zero two one, the purchase amount is within the adopted budget and no additional.

L

Funds will be necessary morning, commissioners, um this is the first time we've ever been.

M

Before the board, with this particular software purchase, it's because it finally went over the.

M

25 000 mark it was not due to a price increase in the software. However, it was a result of covet.

M

And the fact that we needed to be able to do more remotely than we were doing before and what people.

M

Are able to do with this particular software package? Is they are able to provide electronic.

M

Signatures um to a lot of the financial documents purchase, orders, purchase, requests.

M

We are able to the the telework policy, is going through the system and can be done.

M

All through email with a signature on it, a lot of individual agencies have created their own.

M

Forms or contracts where people are able to sign electronically. So it's the number of licenses that.

M

We've had to increase, you might look at that as one of the positive the benefits of covit. Is it.

M

Kind of forced us into getting into this mode and we will keep going that direction.

M

It does interact with our financial management system for documents going into that as well.

F

Good stuff, mr ripper, I like the fact that you recognize the shortcomings suit of stress.

C

And now you're addressing them so with that I moved at the board of commissioners approved the.

C

Purchase for adobe software subscription renewal to dell marketing lp in the amount of twenty seven.

C

Thousand three hundred thirty dollars and ninety five cents, a sec. Okay, I got a motion. Second, any.

A

Discussion questions for mark, seeing here not at this time all in favor, aye, aye, okay, 5-0, see.

A

You later, mr ripper eli, thank you very much and we're requesting approval to award term contract.

A

For electric door, maintenance to susquehanna door services justin morning, commissioner, this morning.

L

The office of procurement, in cooperation with the bureau of facilities, request your approval to.

L

Award term contract for electric door, maintenance to susquehanna doors service in the amount of.

L

Three thousand four hundred and thirty two dollars: ninety two cents per month.

L

This comes out to forty one thousand one hundred ninety four nine, ninety five dollars and four.

L

Cents annually uh the county advertised for bids and received four responses as.

L

Listed below the bid amount is within the adopted budget and no additional funds will be necessary.

N

Morning, commissioners, this is a term contract will provide monthly maintenance and service.

N

To all electric doors throughout carroll county, this contract will consist of 23 buildings.

N

With a total of 107 doors being serviced, susquehanna currently holds electric door contract.

N

For the county and has since 2015. this new contract will intentionally be for a one year with.

N

The option of five additional one-year renewals- we will, you know, look at their first year service.

N

Break them make sure everything's going smooth make sure they're working with us.

N

um If we have issues, then we will address them at that time. I don't foresee any issues. Commissioners.

N

Like I say they have the contract now, uh for the last five years, doing top quality work.

N

So I have no complaints with them. I like to move forward with your approval. Okay, any questions.

D

Are these bids a month for a monthly total that is correct, last one's a little high? It definitely is.

N

Definitely a little, I think I thought that's for the year when I saw that one okay.

O

I don't think they wanted the word.

D

I'll make the most of the board of commissioners award to term contract for electric door, maintenance to susquehanna door service in the amount of three thousand.

D

Four hundred and thirty two dollars and ninety two cents per month or forty one thousand one hundred.

D

Ninety five dollars and four cents annually. Second, okay: I have a motion and I have a second.

A

Any question discussion just on this one: it's in here, none all in favor, all right. Okay, absolutely.

A

Eli you stay doug and reid you're coming up we're just read: okay,.

A

Good morning, I like that announcement in a photo and all that kind of stuff, yeah good stuff.

A

Training wheels are off you're up.

F

Yeah, hang on. You go.

L

The office of procurement, in cooperation with the bureau of fleet management warehouse operations.

L

Requests your approval to purchase one e50 r2 series, bobcat compact excavator, from clark.

L

Equipment company in the amount of sixty five thousand nine hundred and twenty five dollars.

L

And twenty four cents this purchase is being made through a source, well, contract number, zero.

L

Four: zero: three one: nine dash cec that was competitively bid. This amount is.

L

In the adopted budget, fy fy 22 budget and no additional funds will be needed.

L

So, commissioners, this mini excavator will be, in addition to the department of facilities fleet.

P

At the moment they do not have any equipment that can do any type of excavation with the growing.

P

Amount of projects that facility is doing, we find it would be beneficial for them to have this.

P

Equipment for past projects they've been forced to rent one, but we've had some scheduling, conflicts.

P

With that, so at this point we believe that it would be beneficial for them to have their own.

P

And justin is here: he can go in more in depth on specific projects where they would need this.

P

Piece of equipment: well, I think this is wonderful. I've gone out to road crews, as mr brown back there.

C

Knows- and this is one of the things they were talking about- they needed so the fact that this is.

C

On their agenda is wonderful, I think it's great to see the communication between staff and the board.

C

To make these things happen, therefore, I moved that the board of commissioners approved the purchase.

C

Of one e50 r2 series bobcat compact estimator to clark equipment company in amount of 65.

C

925 dollars and 24 cents, a second okay. I have a motion in a second, I do have a question. You said.

A

It was competitively bid who is it competitively bid against? uh I don't have the exact lists of.

L

Other companies I was bid against through, but it was, we did uh piggyback off of a source while.

L

Contract that was competitively bid. I can get you the list of other vendors who bid, but I don't have.

L

That in front of me, okay, have these prices just recently gone up on these? Yes, sir, absolutely I.

E

Mean there's a lot of steel in that thing yeah. I know unless it's probably got a chip in it too,.

E

Yeah yeah several chips or something we've seen that with all of the vehicles too, not.

P

Just equipment but yeah what? What exactly do they do with this thing, I'm just curious.

N

That's great day to day ops, uh it extends from running new drain tile um construction work.

N

Digging up concrete, pouring concrete, we'll use this machine to assist in that.

N

We're looking at other attachments on this machine that will allow us to.

N

Possibly do some rough mowing along trails and parks down along steep banks where.

N

We can reach out and do some mowing. It'll stay out of danger. It's endless.

N

We can use this daily out their facilities and the good thing is we work well with roads if they're.

N

Machines down absolutely come borrow facilities, we'll work together, we'll make it happen.

N

And that's where we are with that. Is there special licensing on this piece of equipment.

N

That's negative: now we just train our in-house staff to run the run, the machines and uh once.

N

We feel comfortable and they're comfortable, um we release them and do the task force.

P

I like to just add also, I believe this is the the same model that the roads department has so a lot.

P

Of the guys already have experience, okay, that's good! We kept them the same, so we didn't have one.

N

Manufacturer of kubota compared to a bobcat or a cat compared to a bobcat with different controls.

N

Trying to standardize across the board, so we all have experience with it. Just have a thumb. Yes, yeah.

F

Nope, so you and reid going to pick this thing up this afternoon or what it's all him I'll be.

C

Doing donuts in the parking lot I'd like to state that I think this will actually increase our our.

C

Service time, instead of waiting to rent something or be in the queue to rent it, this is our increase.

C

Our responsive time- and I think that's a great benefit, another good thing we have when we get.

N

This machine is, we will work with the contractors instead of paying them to tear up the concrete. We.

N

Can do that in-house and save those funds yeah, and then they come on the back side and just.

N

Pour the concrete yeah, so we can do a lot of that labor and in-house to save money on the tail end.

I

Excellent and it's always fun to destroy as opposed to building. I wasn't gonna say that.

C

But I'm glad a military man says that okay yeah did you see the governor the other day? He was.

F

Sitting in that thing, and he turned down that building in baltimore yeah, I had the opportunity.

A

To do that unfortunately, take down a few buildings. It's always fun to get in there. So for the record.

F

At some point, I'd like the opportunity to tear something up. It was fun. um Okay, just something.

A

I don't know this could be. No, we have a motion. We do have a second any other comments of relevance.

A

Or questions seen here, none all in favor, aye, aye. Okay, now, let's talk about a 2022 ford, transit.

A

350 cutaway and the two of you are still up: go 49 uh the office of procurement in cooperation.

L

With the bureau of fleet management warehouse operations request your approval to purchase.

L

One 2022 ford, transit, 350, cutaway rear wheel, drive from apple ford in the amount of forty.

L

Nine thousand five hundred and sixty nine dollars and sixty seven cents. This purchase is being made.

L

Through a baltimore county contract number zero, zero, zero, four five zero four that was.

L

Competitively bid, this amount is in the adopted, fy 2022 budget, and no additional funds will be needed.

P

So, commissioners, this transit van will be replacing a 2005 chevy 2500 express fan uh due.

P

To its age and the cost of repairs, we feel is fit to rotate this out of our fleet with a new vehicle.

P

um Yeah and this vehicle will be sent to auction, the chevy will be sent to auction. Yes, sir,.

Q

Okay, what does a cutaway mean.

D

That's just a brand now I mean well so the um uh the body of the van isn't attached to.

P

The cab, so it allows us to have a bigger body, so they can store more tools and supplies. Okay,.

K

Okay, I'll move, the board of commissioners approve the purchase of one 2022 ford, transit, 350, cutaway.

E

8Rwd 2 apple ford, the amount of 49 569 dollars and 67 cents. I couldn't negotiate the 67 cents off.

A

Okay, I have a motion. I have a second any uh discussion, questions lend them off.

A

The hook pretty easy today, all in favor, okay. Gentlemen, thank you. Thank you. Thank you guys.

C

Mr oliver, when the equipment comes in, let me know I'd like to come out and get a photo of.

C

The equipment and some staff and put up on priority care for you absolutely thank you.

F

So you're going to take a tour of a bobcat. In other words, I'm going to get a photo to popcorn.

A

Once again, until rudely interrupted I'll continue, let's request approval to purchase.

A

Easements at 1025 meadow branch road- it wasn't weird. Oh it's a little weird yeah, no.

A

Okay good morning, mr burdine good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning,.

B

Thank you for time this morning, I'm here this morning to request your approval to purchase.

B

Easements on the property located at 1025 meadow branch, road, the department of public.

B

Works has negotiated to purchase the easements needed for the future. One runway protection zone.

B

On approximately one third of an acre from dlh limited liability, partnership.

B

For 25 000., the easements are being purchased from the meadow branch relocation project, which is a.

B

Cornerstone project for the larger carroll county airport, runway safety improvement project as a.

B

Reminder 90 of this purchase will be reimbursed by the faa and 5 will be reimbursed by the maa.

F

No brainer needs to be done. I make the motion. We approve the purchase where you can it's in.

D

Just start to make emotions all right, I'm done I'm out. I I researched. Second, it might.

D

I'll make the motion that the board of county commissioners approved the purchase easement.

D

At 1025 meadow branch, road from the lh limited liability partnership- all second.

A

Okay, any further questions or discussions, hey that was rudely interesting.

A

All in favor aye, okay, thank you, commissioner.

A

Okay: let's talk about a 2022 chevrolet, tahoe suv, who's coming up, miss val.

A

Eli in your exercise back and forth, okay.

L

The office of procurement and cooperation with the department of public safety requests your.

L

Approval to purchase one 2022, chevrolet, tahoe police suv with four-wheel drive.

L

And special service package from criswell chevrolet fleet services in the amount of.

L

Forty two thousand one hundred and thirty seven dollars this purchase is being made.

L

Through maryland, state contract number zero zero one b, six that was competitively bid. The.

L

Purchase amount is within the adopted budget and no additional funds will be necessary.

J

Just a little bit more background, you can see in the briefing paper we currently use a 2011.

J

Chevrolet tahoe that was purchased in august of 2011 with grant funds through the 2008 urban area.

J

Security initiative program that vehicle has been in service since that time we use it for.

J

Both front line emergency response, as well as more routine day-to-day responsibilities. We use it to.

J

Tow shelter, trailers, we use it to tow lots of you know anything and everything that comes along that.

J

Goes along with emergency management response: that is our the vehicle that we use to do that.

J

Purchasing this new vehicle will allow us to continue to reliably provide emergency response.

J

As commissioner lance is familiar and I'm sure commissioner ross senior as well.

J

Emergency front line response vehicles don't last forever and you don't want to keep them in service, as that particular.

J

Use for forever, we want to make sure that that stays, reliable and safe.

J

So this will allow us to provide that response to incidents throughout the county. Moving into.

J

The future and it'll also allow us to repurpose the vehicle that we currently have, that 2011.

J

So that that will be non-relegated basically to non-emergency status within the department.

J

Of public safety, there are other uses that we do have identified, needs for, and that will allow us.

J

To do that and dhs grant funding is available to cover the entire purchase of the vehicle.

J

We'll be using we as long as you all concur, we will be using 20 000, 2019 uh urban area security.

J

Initiative grant funding for this proposed purchase right. If, if I may, miss hawkins thanks for.

C

Mentioning the fact that we're replacing a 2011 vehicle, because I think that emphasizes that we're.

C

Getting our money's worth out of the product and also as a business owner. I know that eventually.

C

Vehicles start to require too much maintenance and then they become money pits. So this is a very wise.

C

Decision I appreciate you expressing that that vehicle has been in service for 10 years and in.

C

Public safety- the last thing you want is a vehicle to break down on you. So this is a very wise move.

C

Thank you. Thank you. What color is it? It would be white.

G

You want it red, yellow, maybe yellow we could probably get it a different.

J

Color, but it would cost more money. Well, it's you asking money still.

E

I think the tahoes we bought for the sheriff's department late were much less than this. This.

E

Is just the price increase that has happened in the last six months? This is a 2022 version.

B

We were not able to get a 2021 uh model year, the 2022 had a 4 increase in the cost, uh just from.

J

Model year to model year, I'm seeing this across the board here this is going to affect our budget.

E

Eventually, I mean the cost increases uh on just standard nut everybody's going to.

E

See this, I think, in the near future, mr zalaski no longer has fingernails chewing them off.

C

Yeah, okay, all right! I'm going to make the motion we purchased 120, 22, chevrolet, tahoe, police, suv,.

F

From chris well in the amount of 42 137, second, okay, I got a motion and.

F

The white's okay he's got a red stripe. It will most likely have a red stripe. Okay,.

B

A

Tactical pause, okay, guys uh motion and got a second anything of value to add, seeing nothing all.

A

In favor, okay, thank you, commissioners, you're, very, very welcome! Keep up now. Let's talk about mouth.

A

20 fy 21 applicant red properties, llc 5140, grand valley, road in westminster,.

A

Who wants to start this off chris? You want to yeah I'll, kick it off good morning. So as a reminder.

Q

Our agricultural preservation budget and there we actually have two budgets. We have.

Q

One for the mouth program, which is the state program and that budget the county budget, is to.

Q

Cover the county's portion of the mouth program, we also have a county program then as well, so.

Q

We are wrapping up the fy 21 mouth program and we have one last project that malf is able to.

Q

Partially fund and but there's not quite enough funds in both the state and county budget to.

Q

Cover the entire cost, so what we're looking for and we're here before you today is to.

Q

Transfer funds from one budget to another: this would not be an increase in the agricultural.

Q

Preservation budget but I'll turn it over to jp to talk about the specifics.

A

Good morning, commissioners, um this is a property that you've approved in the past to be sent down.

R

To mouth for preservation down there, this is a red properties. Llc, it's located at 5140 grand valley.

R

Road in westminster, it's 38 acres and we'll be retiring. Seven lot rights in district, one.

R

This farm has been down in mouth for the last two years, been two cycles in a row that did not.

R

Receive an offer this past year a farm dropped out, they sold their farm before they got an offer.

R

And the offer moved down the list and it eventually got to this farm.

R

This farm made an offer to sell their easement at 265 342 and insufficient funds offer.

R

Was at 199 734 dollars and 21 cents, so we'll be asking for county funds, no more than 65 607.79.

R

Here's the farm outlined in red and you can see we have some other farms around it and we have a.

R

Also another mouth applicant there up to the right in the same area.

R

This is how the farm lays in with other preservation.

R

And again, we're requesting approval of additional county funds transfer to mouth for red properties.

R

Llc for the applicant of the 21 f1 fy 21 cycle say one more time where the additional funds are.

D

Coming from sure, so we have two different budgets right, so one budget is from elf.

Q

So the mouth program that's wrong. Do you want to explain really it's as I was walking again.

S

But so normally this really isn't a budget transfer, as budget has explained it to me. So.

K

Normally there would be a budget transfer resolution in here.

O

You you have there's one budget for the money. You you think of it as two debit ham explained it to.

O

Me and you could explain it that yeah yes, this is not a budget transfer in the sense that you.

S

Know it you are not approving the moving of money from one account to it to another. This is this is.

S

Simply rearranging how we're making use of state funding and county funding, but this is.

D

Funny that's already earmarked for egg prices. Yes, yes, it's all. It is budget. It's just in.

O

um There's we anticipate, I guess it's the way to say that 1.3 million dollars.

O

Of the ag prez budget will go toward uh mouth our contribution toward the mouth easement purchases.

O

um And and they've spent the 1.3 billion, um and so they need in their minds.

O

65 million from the rest of their budget for 65 000.

F

I know we're sitting on money here. Oh these days, millions trillions or whatever yeah so.

R

So basically, we had 12 applicants, two of them didn't get offers of the 10. One of them dropped.

R

Out they got an offer that money moved down to the 11th applicant that applicant declined. It.

R

Because that applicant was twice as big, this applicant made a discounted offer to the state.

R

Actually, the state will pay 70 of their appraised value. They will offer that unless the applicant's.

R

Bid price is lower, this applicant's bid price was lower, but it was still deficient by 65.

R

Nine 607.79 so we're at asking to make that full. Yes with county funds yeah, I apologize.

Q

For the confusion that no, I think of it in terms of two different buckets of money, but.

Q

It really it's one but internally to you. Yes, that's fine. Two different programs.

Q

Yes, okay, okay, yeah! I don't. I don't necessarily think we need to make a habit of trying to help.

F

With state funding, but in this instance I think it's a good idea so yeah we do as.

R

Well, there's you know, seven lots of retiring and we feel like there's plenty of preservation to.

R

To come from that area, so we're hoping to keep the conflicts of the residential development down.

K

That's good I'll move that the board of commissioners grant approval to the transfer.

E

Of county funds not to exceed the amount of 65, 000, uh 65, 607 dollars and 79 cents.

E

Purchased an agriculture easement through the mouth program for the red properties.

E

Llc farm located, 5140 grand valley, drive westminster. I think that's in district 1.

O

You're too slow really a westminster address and I said well there you go. I thought I could.

A

Make the motions and said westminster, but it's not even any queer clues. Okay, I have a motion.

A

I do have a second finally a little bit delay, but we dig it a second all in favor all right.

A

Okay, thank you so much. Thank you very I'm picking up much bow from the tech. This.

C

Afternoon, getting ready for the season all right keep practicing. I need all the practice I can get.

A

Okay, we're going to move into our administrative session, but before we do public comment.

A

uh Sir, you have mr greg fullerton. If you come to the microphone.

A

And the idea is, uh please show your name address and you have a few minutes to share. What's on your.

A

Mind good morning, gentlemen, my name is uh greg fullerton. I live at 1430, south pleasant valley.

T

Road here in westminster, uh long time, carroll, county resident, I grew up in woodbine graduated.

T

From south caroli moved out to new windsor and now I live in pleasant valley. Obviously, what.

T

What was your address again, mr 1430 pleasantville? Okay, um we moved out to pleasant valley in 2004.

T

uh I love it there. It's been a great quiet area, resort and all that stuff. It's it's outstanding.

T

It's exactly how I remember wood buying being when I was a kid I bought a second home there.

T

I am two houses on pleasant valley right now, one I rent to tenants as a retirement project.

T

As many of you guys probably already know, we have island green, they call it.

T

Family fun center. That used to be true.

T

A couple years back, they applied for an alcohol license, which I had no new problems with it all.

T

I'm a marine corps veteran a small business owner and a firefighter, so I have no problem with people.

T

Trying to promote their business make more money, it's all a great situation, so I never came to that.

T

Hearing, because that was no issues with me when I had 50 to 100 people there driving golf balls.

T

In a quiet center like as many residents, I've talked with all feel the exact same.

T

However, now it's a full-blown rock concert every friday, saturday and sunday.

T

From may to october, so almost every single nice day of the year now on the weekend.

T

It's a rock concert, if not rock it's country or something like that, but it's a full-blown concert.

T

They built a stage that faces the neighborhood from route 40.. You can see it. It faces directly.

T

At the houses, one of those houses is my tenants, a house I bought probably three years ago for.

T

Them it literally sounds like a base cannon inside their house like you, you would have to.

T

Turn the tv up to compete with these speakers, if you could, I guess to describe it if you had like.

T

That annoying neighborhood person that drives around with a loud thumping stereo in their car.

T

Picture parking that in your driveway friday, saturday and sunday from may to october.

T

You cannot open your windows anymore, because you will hear that non-stop.

T

It's a it's pretty outrageous. I've measured, it decibel wise. My personal house at 14 30, is about.

T

Three quarter mile from that stage and at 9 58 p.m. Two weeks ago it was 75 decibels at my house in a.

T

Guitar solo at the end of the night, so ordinarily, I wouldn't be here for any pet peeve little things.

T

But this affects my retirement because if you take the value of these homes and you depreciate them.

T

By say, fifty thousand dollars a piece there's approximately two hundred houses in this area.

T

Fifty thousand dollars times two hundred is ten million dollars to the residents of uh pleasant.

T

Valley, so it's a pretty serious issue. I've worked very hard. My whole life uh to pay for these houses.

T

To get this money from my family um got some notes here. I'm just trying to make sure I don't.

T

Miss things oh and that that property is not commercial. It's not industrial. That's.

T

It's in a residential agricultural area, there is no commercial area in that area.

T

There was no postings, I ever saw for speakers or concerts or anything, and I asked all the residents.

T

In that area- and they said the same- there's also a church, so the decibel lowers the decimal meters.

T

Should be lower, there's a church that borders that property right at the top of the hill, so it's only.

T

Allowed 50 to 55 decibels. I think it is I'm fairly familiar with the noise ordinance as I've been.

T

Studying it since this has been going on eliza I've seen my times, I'm sorry, that's! Okay! A lot of.

T

The residents wanted to come but, as you know, most people work on thursday. It's very hard to get here.

T

So it's actually taken me some time to figure out where to go when to go to to.

T

Come in front of you, gentlemen, today and ladies are, but I appreciate your time and hopefully.

T

Hopefully I can be addressed, I don't I don't. I've talked to the sheriff also, and he says he.

T

Doesn't have no noise decibel meters, so I've just been using a cell phone app, but it's way.

T

It's above the noise decibel limit inside my rental house. With the windows closed at times,.

T

So it's it's pretty obnoxious and I don't know how to describe better, but you'd have to be there.

T

But you got to be there at 9 00 pm on us on a this is a good weekend, because this is a holiday party.

T

Usually, on holidays, the traffic's lined up from their place all the way out around the.

T

Corner and down 140., you can't even get my road. Sometimes you got to drive an oncoming traffic.

T

On south pleasant valley to get in there and around the corner, that's that's how many people.

T

They pack in there like the entire field of school, so thank you for your time. I appreciate.

T

It okay, thank you and uh personally, thank you for your service. Thank you, sir appreciate it.

F

So, just for the record, this has been an ongoing issue uh or challenge. If you will so.

F

I we we do have. I do have several uh several results.

F

As it pertains to visits that have been made by some of our departments, I can certainly share.

F

That with you, you guys and we'll see, you know we'll see what we can do here. um You know there's.

F

Without getting, we can't debate it today, obviously, because it's not on our agenda.

F

You understand, uh but I've heard from quite a few folks out there and.

F

I believe you and I have met because uh at some point.

F

Yeah, so so I'm right around the corner from there as well. uh So it is, it is a challenge, but I'll.

F

I'll get I'll make sure that everything that's been done there to. This point is shared with.

F

Everyone here and then perhaps we can uh get it on some sort of agenda somewhere to discuss what what.

F

The situation is, I think we have a larger issue: yeah yeah, so law enforcement has been there.

F

Liquor board has been there, uh planning and zoning has been there. The health department's been there.

F

And all four were, I may have missed. One have have submitted reports on exactly what is.

F

Where, where it's come from what happened so I'll get that yeah I'll get that all together.

F

And and get it to all of you yeah, and I think I think it is definitely value to have a put on.

A

The agenda because it is bigger and we've been- we've been dancing around this for a while. So.

A

Yeah and I and you know, I've brought up about the noise ordinance um several months ago and.

F

We're getting there, I think, but that needs to be back on needs to be on our agenda as well. Yeah.

F

Because our noise, ordinance at best, is, is.

F

I don't know it's not it doesn't it. It doesn't really get into the meat of what a noise ordinance.

F

Is supposed to be, it is very generic and tim. I know you and your office have done some work on.

F

That we're we're getting there and I had asked for a comparison of of neighboring jurisdictions.

F

On what their noise ordinance says when it comes to decibel levels, and what have you.

F

So we need to right, we maybe we can package that all together use this as an example and get it.

F

On our agenda to talk about it, um it's a it's a growing issue, not only here but everywhere, and.

F

You know some, I know, there's a winery in in the county that has taken it upon themselves.

F

To purchase noise uh meters and put them on the perimeter of their property and regularly take.

F

Readings to ensure that they're not exceeding but that's a little.

F

Different because that, in that venue uses acoustic, it's typically one-person bands.

F

This is, uh I mean there was a tribute band to journey or somebody a couple weeks back and.

F

I need to be I don't we can't get into it today, but my daughter lives on hughes shop, road and I.

F

Was sitting in her driveway and I could have been in the third row, but you like journey there right.

F

Yeah, it did, I mean a couple songs, but what we allow, not particularly the noise around jesus.

F

Yeah, it's there's more to it. So so I appreciate all of the citizens and you can certainly share.

F

This with them we're on it. Sometimes it takes a little while to get everything together.

F

But I haven't just let it go. We've done a ton of investigations there by.

F

Various departments so more to come so I'll get your contact information uh today, sir.

F

And I'll reach back out to you personally, okay, thanks, sir. I do appreciate your replies because.

T

I have seen the emails okay, yeah. Thank you. Okay, it hasn't gone on deaf ears,.

D

Yeah, this is also a problem with some of the venues that are have a limited license for, like.

D

Just a couple times a year, they can do something because I've heard from some people live around.

D

Those areas, too, that the noise is too it goes beyond whatever their license says like to 10.

D

O'clock, 11 o'clock, it goes a little bit beyond that or then this happens that happens too loud.

D

So all this does have to be looked into, because why? I'm all for it? Trying to let these people.

D

Make some money and bring people in and so forth, good for the county. But you have to be.

D

Cognizant of the neighbors that live around you as well right, I mean they didn't, you know, buy.

D

The house next to a rock concert, basically to use your term they're next to a rock concert, so we do.

D

Have to look into this a little more, not just for this area, but everywhere in accounting, especially.

D

Where you have those limited uh licenses that are for like 12 events a year, whatever it's for.

D

I can't remember exact number, because I've had a few calls about that as well. Yeah. Okay, just don't.

K

Seem to have okay to do too much about it right now, yeah. We need to take that noise ordinance so.

A

Yeah yeah, I hear you so. Okay again, I appreciate uh you coming forward, sir, and uh you know.

A

As you can tell we're aware and we're gonna do something, so thank you. I appreciate that this.

T

Has been a very important experience, yep learning how this works, but, prior to this.

A

That's right, I don't know how it works either. So don't worry about it. So, uh but we are uh now.

A

Chris, mr swam, do we have any uh public comment on the lines? I have? No one waiting for public comment.

G

Sir okay, uh we are now uh in open admin. Does anybody up here have anything they want to share.

A

Yeah they're about putting something on agenda in later dates or bring to our attention um the only.

F

Thing I have is, I know we pretty much well, two things um got an email from a constituent that.

F

Regularly uses our senior centers, and I know that we have put out a press release and that press.

F

Release released was on in the carroll county times two weeks later, yeah, which is interesting.

F

But we all know that the carroll county times is typically the baltimore sun. Now so.

F

That's the way it rolls so you're going to get things in the carroll county times that are a.

F

Week later, um but I don't know, did we ever put out an additional bit of information on how we tweaked.

F

The the the things at the senior centers- no, I mean the folks using the senior centers- have all.

O

You know been told okay, um so it didn't seem you know so late. It didn't seem.

O

Necessary but okay. Well, I I only asked that maybe we could. I don't think we need to put a press.

F

Release out no, but if you see value in putting you know getting chris and swam and somebody to.

A

Publish something why not yeah, maybe on our website under senior centers or I don't know.

F

Just to say, okay, you can play pickleball, you just have to have a mask on where you can play cards.

K

Yeah but I don't think, apparently not everyone knows about right through the great fox news. Well,.

F

Maybe just something I don't think we need to do a full-blown press release.

F

But I do think we need to just make sure that that we've put something out for our.

F

Seniors that don't regularly attend or whatever so if we could do that, I'd appreciate it.

F

And also, are we still going with everything virtual or are we going to provide a hybrid.

F

Method moving forward for our meetings and I bring that up because pnz's coming up uh in september.

F

The 21st or something I believe- or this is the next meeting um it's actually it's not virtual.

F

No, I thought we decided that everything was virtual until further notice.

O

Room size determines whether it should be virtual or you know so, trying to keep. You know folks.

O

The the what the board decided several weeks ago is, um you know all based on how many people.

O

You could put in the room so, okay, um if you can properly distance in a room, then you can have an.

O

Actual meeting in person, if you can't then um then they're virtual, so okay, so it's a case-by-case.

O

Case yeah, it's it's a juggling act. I get that, but maybe we could maybe make sure folks know.

F

Because last night, at the end of png they're like so, are we virtual or we're not.

F

And linda gave the answer that we're virtual and then I went like this and they went wait.

F

A minute- and I went well yeah so if we could just drill down on exactly what we're doing.

F

Pz is a problem because I don't really think without barriers that you can sit. Eight people.

F

With the deus down there, that's tough, you can't they're right, that's very good. They.

O

Will probably remain virtual they're, just too big a group and then they then they have. um You know.

O

Lots of people through there's a lot of throughput frequently in their meetings, not always especially.

F

Their regular meetings, maybe there's a way to put a couple at the desk and a couple on the sides or.

F

Something I don't know, there's got to be a way to do it. I know it's, you know chris and everybody has.

F

To look at the swami, I'm talking about yeah, I mean kind of the way we're set up here where yeah they.

O

Have barriers but the the diocesan's a whole lot longer than this and they're nine people? I know.

A

I understand, but there may be a way to modify the room to allow for people present yeah. um I'm just.

A

Asking take a look to give it the benefit of the doubt. Let's see if we can do it, there is so much.

F

Benefit to getting back into into face to face. So if there's a way that we can put up a couple.

F

Desks or something down there and pull the cameras back or something I know the swami's probably.

F

Throwing stuff at the screen right now I heard him and when I walk out the door he's going to attack.

F

Me I know it's going to happen. You got it right. It's been nice working with you what flip a coin.

K

If we can just that goes well, they're, probably the only ones, maybe b, z, too. No, no.

K

And liquor board has no problem either. It's the planning commission just has two. I know maybe.

F

We could put some desks on the sides or something yeah we'll look at it: okay. Okay, that's that's all.

A

Yeah well he uh commissioner williams was mentioned citizen services.

C

And commissioner ralston had mentioned the withdrawal of afghanistan, I'm not a veteran.

C

But it's my understanding that this has been a very, very stressful time. Our veterans that there's.

C

The mental health issues suicide nationally can potentially spike, and I want to make sure that the.

C

Resources that we have in this county, available to our veterans or publicize that there's a.

C

Public awareness that we do have the resources for them and that please turn to our citizen services.

C

For help with that issue, and anything we can do you know, colonel ralstein is a strong advocate.

C

Of this, you can reach out to him on his email and contact me if you need any help. Sometimes.

C

This is a very, very personal issue and I'm sure they'd like to have someone that they identify.

C

With and I'm very grateful for his leadership on this issue and I'll make sure all the veterans out.

C

There in our community know that we're there for you and we'll provide the resources necessary to.

C

Help you in this time of need, so thank you always, and there are 18 suicides a day with our veterans.

A

And we have three veteran support officers in our county in uh department of citizen services,.

A

We have case manager, uh I don't say expertise but trained to do what's right. I do know that.

A

Our citizen service outreach is doing a great job working with a lot of folks, whether it's those.

A

That are in the detention center or those in hospitals um anywhere in the community.

A

And you're absolutely right! You can reach out to me, along with any of us and we'll point you in.

A

The right directions um so yeah this is it's not gonna, get easier. I'll put it that way. I.

A

I don't believe um so, it's getting better, isn't it because I remember doing the push-ups it was the.

D

Last 22-22 now it's down to 18, which is still way too many, but it's a step in the right direction.

A

Okay, yes, it was a 20 push-up challenge and now the numbers are 18, but uh I could actually.

F

Maybe do the challenge now. I don't think you can maybe on your knees. So, uh okay, what else.

A

Anything is uh the only uh last comment I have is. I started off social media. um I just.

A

You know for open admin and just to finish off minimize social media. There's a value.

A

To what it provides, but there's a challenge when it you know somebody, I think dick you mentioned.

A

The hatred going on and there's this black and white attitude you know and uh there's all this.

A

Gray area and then social media doesn't pick up the gray area. They pick up the black and the white.

A

So uh we are all available and I just want to make sure we continue to promote ourselves as being all.

A

Available to the community and keep social media at bay on what it can and cannot provide. But.

A

That's all I have um let's go right into agendas. Wanda, we got minutes, we have plenty. Oh, I apologize.

J

We have closed minutes yeah approval of minutes. I believe yeah, sorry about that. um Where am I at.

A

I need to approve the minutes of.

C

August 26th the land acquisition I'll move to accept those minutes. Second,.

A

Okay, I got a motion in a second of the land acquisition minutes on.

A

August 26, all in favor, all right, hi and I'll abstain. You were not here. Were you.

A

No right, I was staying dude back. I wasn't there. Okay, although I agree with it, I wasn't there. Okay.

A

So it's a four zero one, four four and one extension so now miss wanda.

A

Good morning, good morning, everyone good morning so september 6th.

A

The county offices will be closed and I did see a press release on that for.

A

Labor day uh tuesday, we have nothing but again lesnantova to all those celebrating.

A

On wednesday, at 9 30, commissioner weaver will be attending the farm museum's advisory board meeting.

A

And then he'll be attending, are you attending that or is commissioner lance commissioner lance lost.

E

The coin clip, but he won't acknowledge it soon, as I would be going. I think there was something going.

F

On okay, I think it was a double-headed coin, but uh I do too so commissioner, weaver will be attending.

A

The board of education board meeting at 5 pm on wednesday, the 8th on thursday. We have closed.

A

And then 9 a.m. We go into open uh request approval to apply for a grant funding.

A

Through the edward byrne, justice assistance grant program, it's a youth and victim services grant.

A

Option to purchase the wilford s, hoff, senior and deborah mu's property through our county.

A

Ag preservation program, uh public safety, training, center, pfas initial site analysis, mr hein will be.

A

Providing that, then we will go into closed with public works.

A

Talking about lan building acquisition just leave it at that 2 p.m: standard solar site.

A

Visit commission bouche will be attending up in union bridge, along with a congressional delegation.

A

Is that um congressman or senator? Well they have the carson raskin they're tentatively.

C

Waiting here back from cardin and uh holland, so any of my colleagues want to join me at that. I'd.

C

Sincerely appreciate it, it's honored to have those dignitaries coming into our county.

C

I'd be interested in finding out a little bit more information about it. And if, because.

D

I'm all about solar yeah, most likely. I would like to join you with that.

C

That'd, be absolutely wonderful, I think it shows unity and us as commissioners too.

C

Have more than just one, so I appreciate the support yeah. So if you could add my name to.

D

That and then uh we'll get together and- and you can tell me a little bit more about it- okay, okay,.

A

Okay, on friday september, 8th commission wentz will be eating at the 20 town business breakfast.

F

That's actually a tribute as well to uh the past economic director of tawny, town, nancy, mccormick, so.

A

Okay, um that's and I think it's at 7 00 am instead of eight starts at seven yeah. Don't ask me how I'm.

F

Gonna get there wanda at seven, but it starts at seven, especially when you you might wanna.

C

You brag about their food too. Don't you? Oh.

F

Seriously incredible food at thunderhead bowling in tony town, who would I ever guess and then.

A

Commissioner, lance will be having a walking tour. I imagine with the mayor, uh wants as well from 20km.

A

Then there'll be a grand opening at the base and swim academy.

A

And commissioner weaver will be attending up in finksburg, you guys want to dive. In with me, I was.

D

Asking if you're going to get in the water you're going to you're going to have like some sort of a.

F

Something going on remember, mayor schaefer, with the ducky he's all show up that way on saturday.

A

September 11th, uh as mentioned earlier shishi visa uh 9, 11 20 anniversary ceremony, commissioner.

A

Fraser myself, commissioner lanson weaver will be attending then remembrance day at vfw, post 467.

A

Commissioner, weaver will be attending and the 90th anniversary banquet up at pleasant valley.

A

Community fire hall and commissioner wentz will be attending that day on sunday, commissioner, wants.

A

Has the podcast and then a out of the darkness, walk in criminal park? Commissioner boucher.

A

And frazier, with his knee braces, will be walking on monday september 13th transit advisory council.

A

I guess location is that the tbd, I don't know I see tbd there, I'm not sure.

D

I'm not sure if it's gonna be virtual live. I think that's what it is. Okay and commissioner.

A

Fraser will be participating in that precious support food pantry, a new location opening up.

A

Down in mount airy, commissioner bouche will be attending that evening on the 13th on tuesday.

A

We have a joint meeting with the delegation. It will be hybrid, so it'll be both in person and.

A

You know virtual um and then I'll be attending the ag center board meeting that evening at 7 pm.

A

On wednesday, the 15th seniors expo at the eggs at the ex center now.

A

I thought it was at uh south carolina. No, no, no senior experts out there is that the excellent.

A

Okay at the exhaust, we'll all be attending that. Well, I'm not sure we all will flip the page.

A

Oh okay, well, maybe not uh is that in person? Yes, oh, is it really, I think they're gonna try.

K

So, even if it's virtual yeah well, if it's virtual, if it's virtual, you can do the open.

F

Certainly skedaddle but they're working on, maybe okay, so we'll see. Okay at 11 am.

A

The uh mako interim legislative committee or commissioner fraser and wence will skidala.

A

Or scoot down there we'll figure out what they're going to do. I hope I'm driving they're scooting on.

C

You well, it depends. They also are talking about, possibly not having it. That day. I just remembered.

F

So more to come on that that's tentative yeah, okay! Okay! Besides did you get that wanda.

A

You're about the only one, because I didn't so at 4pm, uh fast signs ribbon cutting down westminster.

A

Commissioner frazier will be attending and then, commissioner, even if we go yeah commissioner.

A

Wants to be attending the board of trustees meeting at the carroll community college that.

A

After late afternoon, you can add me to the fast signs ribbon, cutting because.

F

I kind of know that guy, I think I'll be there. He said not to let you come. He did.

A

On thursday, the 16th uh we have public hearing focused on the pension plan, changes and then.

A

uh Fy 22 overtime grant awards dealing with the sheriff's department and nothing else scheduled.

A

On thursday, the 16th- and that is also yom kippur, so wishing everyone, a good yant of during that day,.

A

And a healthy fast on friday, the 17th, nothing saturday, nothing and really looking forward to the.

A

19Th with commissioner weaver's podcast did I miss anything what I never look. 40 years, blah blah blah.

A

Two minutes to go. I thought it was gonna, be 10. 30., I'm hurt. Okay. Does anybody have anything else.

A

Okay with that hearing, none do I have a motion to adjourn for the day. Second, wait: are we going.

A

Into closed or not no okay, I got a motion. I got a second all in favor all right, good 501.,.

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